You're better off posting this on their forums as this isn't an official server.
#MFD's That Need to be Fixed Among Other Things.
odd meteor
clever swallowBOT
Looking for support for Train Sim World / Train Simulator Classic?
delicate oxide
Or open a thread here
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/forums/technical-reports.80/
tribal saddle
Not even gonna talk about the MFDs on the 401 and 403 😂
And just saying, there's way more bugs on different trains too that you didn't mention at all
tribal saddle
Yeah, no. The 500hz and 1000hz aren't always on when they should be, same goes for the S (they are on the gui tho). The G also doesn't blink when you're overspeeding, which it should irl. There's also some bugs that have to do with the way LZB and AFB react to the brake curve on the 401, one being that it doesn't even let you override the brake curve by just braking manually...
tribal saddle
No, that's not how they work 😂
It's just not realistic when you're faster than the LZB braking curve and the G isn't blinking. It's also not realistic that LZB and AFB brake you while you have manual braking applied, they also shouldn't brake you when you're around 10 km/h under the braking curve...
And it's certainly not realistic that you sometimes just don't get the 500hz or 1000hz when you drive over magnets and/or acknowledge signals that should normally trigger those LM...
tribal saddle
First of all: there's no slower varient of the 403. Second of all: that copyright part is just not true. PZB, LZB and AFB are systems that can easily be implemented into a game without copyright problems, albeit in a MFA or MFD.
tribal saddle
Btw, the manual braking works fine, but you should be able to override AFB and LZB with it all the time, which isn't always the case.
main dagger
So you say the normal ice is slower on the german network than the ice3m
The only real differenc is that the 3m is modular, it can drive in more countrys than the normal ice 3 but that doesnt make the normal ice slower/faster on the german network
tribal saddle
The software isn't owned by DB.
You can't just make up those things 😂😅
There's no 403M. Even if it's slower in-game (which I doubt), they're both rated for 330 irl.
And there's also no such thing as 'DB BR'. 'BR' stands for Baureihe, which roughly translates to class.
You should know this.
main dagger
Then whats your problem with acceleration on the slow "ice"
Both have the same one
U actually never say db its just BR ... for most of the time
tribal saddle
No, just ask any driver lol
How am I incorrect?
Those people certainly don't own the software for PZB, LZB or ETCS DMIs 😂
tribal saddle
That has nothing to do with PZB and LZB
odd meteor
This company was created in 2019, whilst these systems have been around for decades. They have nothing to do with it.
You should know this.
odd meteor
Uh, yeah we were. You denied that the MFDs even function on trains IRL, then backtracked and claimed that we can't have them function properly in game due to copyright (not sure how that make any sense given these systems are literally implemented as a game mechanic and show on the HUD UI).
These Menlo79 people have been around for three years and do employee scheduling and logistics software. This is completely irrelevant to the German train safety systems.
You have a tech company, right?
You should know this.
tribal saddle
lol
I was talking about LZB and PZB and you tried explaining to me why the MFD's work correctly in-game...
Just gonna mention that DB isn't the only company using the 'BR' designation...
Would you mind sending a link to that article? :)
It has, you always said 'DB BR' instead of just 'DB', I corrected you but you said that I'm still wrong :D
Yes, but that has nothing to do with MFDs, PZB or LZB
Mind sending a screenshot?
It might have to do with those things, but they didn't develop any of the stuff I mentioned above ^^
Yes, but that product isn't simulated in TSW, so I don't see any copyright problems there. The original point of the discussion was, that MFDs can't be modified because of copyright, but that's just bs
Dude, you can't just download software that isn't public 😂
@agile atlas you might wanna clean up here
PZB and LZB are available lol
PZB and LZB are included in-game. My only point was that some stuff is bugged on the 401, and you just didn't accept that 😅
MFDs have nothing to do with Dispo. The program from Menlo79 is a program to make Dispo easier, therefore they have nothing to do with each other.
Yes, because I wanted to add stuff that was glitched too :)
I can agree that there are bugs, I just wanted to mention more bugs, as I said above.
Everyone who cares about realism should
Nope
agile atlas
Sorry, was in the kitchen making lunch (mmm pancakes). FYI if you ever need a moderator attention it's best to just tag the moderators role so we all see it - rather than having to depend on one person who might be AFK.
tribal saddle
Sorry, was in the kitchen making lunch (mmm pancakes). FYI if you ever need a mo...
My bad 😅
Might wanna get back to the original discussion: no, they aren't. They are glitched and they aren't supposed to behave like that in-game. End of the discussion.
tribal saddle
Yeah, no. The 500hz and 1000hz aren't always on when they should be, same goes f...
How? Read this again.
PZB being broken like that isn't really helpful, especially if you don't wanna use the hud.
That's a problem everyone has. There's no exceptions...
The .pak for KWG is the same everywhere, soo
If you just don't notice them it's a different story, they're still there 😅
Well, if you wanna drive realistically you need to focus on the MFD
I guess you mean something different by MFD than I do?
Yeah, you mean something different by MFD. What I mean by MFD is "Modulares Führerraumdisplay", which translates to modular cab display. It's the thing with the speedo on it
On German trains there's a MFD and a MTD. I was talking about the MFD all the time, you were talking about the MTD...
Yeah, that's called MTD (Maschinentechnisches Display) in German.
Great, and I was referring to the MFD of the 401 and 403, and you tried explaining to me that all MFDs on DB trains work like that without even knowing what I was talking about
agile atlas
Why don't you both go outside and smell some fresh air, you need it.
tribal saddle
Why don't you both go outside and smell some fresh air, you need it.
I'm about to 😅
And I'd recommend just filing a ticket or writing a whole bug report instead of opening that many threads. Foobian did the same for the bugs on the 401 and 403.
lol
odd meteor
What happened
tribal saddle
the person was banned
odd meteor
rip
odd meteor
oh right, i see his arguments didn't improve then lol