#Angel & Bomber balance

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marsh moat
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because that's their gimmick, they destroy units. Angel may be a broken mess, but bomber is fine

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bomb dmg isn't instant, it's ticking if you are fighting for mid you just put units away from the place he bombed, also bomber doesn't have anything to defend with, he can only damage your units.

rldr just harass him

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also what mech mech you played against bomber

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:/

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I guess I should stop playing whatever broken mess this game is, if instead of arguments I get this

graceful flare
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funny post

simple glen
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Taking loses from me in a sniper doesn't make it broken lol ๐Ÿ˜† maybe try some AA, should the goal be to make mechs non effective? What else can the sniper do but snipe? What can the bomber do besides bomb? U want to take away from what little they have already because u can't beat them in a match?

fluid nexus
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The Bomber is fine (or well-balanced).

But the Angel is completely broken (overpowered). Its damage is brutal, and its abilities make it even worse.

You can counter the Bomber with Haat or even Flakker.

However, you can't stop the Angel with anything; it's simply not fair to fight against it. The best option would be to add units that can stop it, but since that's unlikely to happen, the most reasonable course of action would be to lower the amount of damage it can do and the number (or frequency) of its shots

simple glen
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You lost in a practice 1v1 got real sour about it took me off ur friends list, went on a swear filled rant in chat and then complain about the sniper power for a month, all I said was good game after to. Ur a good player but u take loses to heart, it's all about good fun, being strong on the field is one thing, taking a lose like a champ is another kind of strength ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘

bronze epoch
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Seeker too

trail moth
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Make Jammer units miss Artillery AND Angel shots

proper dagger
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Everyone on this forum

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I told happy I don't want to talk about bomber

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We don't need to nerf bomber if everyone at the top is honorable

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But we do need to nerf it if there is a tournament that doesn't ban any mechs

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Bomber is excessively underrated atm because there is so much you can do with it

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They're kinda niche but imo very strong when strung together

trail moth
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Flakker and he is dead

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Gorgon and he is dead

proper dagger
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Are you kidding?

trail moth
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Bomber is ass

proper dagger
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Please be serious

trail moth
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Paladin is better

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I am serious

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Bomber sucks, just like Warthog

proper dagger
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Ah but you claim it without letting me give evidence

trail moth
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As I've said it multiple times:
โ€ขBuff booster

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Make it non droppable

proper dagger
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It's like you want to be right so badly that you want to talk over me

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Can you let me finish?

trail moth
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For slow mechs,

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Ok go on

proper dagger
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Thx

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So, bomber has bombs that can bomb air units, ground speed buff, whirlwind which takes out light units too with heavy, napalm, bomb impact, boosters on top of ALL OF THIS

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Blade guardians

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Blaster quardians

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Radar guardians

trail moth
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Aegis guardian

proper dagger
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Bomber is the most op mech in the game unless it is on thar

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In my opinion

trail moth
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Did you know that

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The fire left from it's bombs cause Gorgon to shoot it even if he is really far away

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Even in the opposite side of the map

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Even if you land

proper dagger
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Ew

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Ew

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But yummy

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So wait

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No wait

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Illogical but possible

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Place gorgon on napalm

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Maybe a bug in there too idk

trail moth
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Bomber is trash

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There is no work-around on it.

proper dagger
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Bro

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Why are happy astro and I all agreeing

trail moth
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If they nerf striker they destroy the game

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If they buff it, people cry about it

proper dagger
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Bomber is just complex enough for mid or low high tiers to not play it

trail moth
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I love that.

proper dagger
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It's not obvious as to how op it is

trail moth
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In the current state?

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Trash.

proper dagger
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Like I said don't nerf

trail moth
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If Booster gets buff?

proper dagger
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xd

trail moth
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Scary...

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Like it's fast asf

proper dagger
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Man you just don't like to conform

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It's ok xd

trail moth
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Can carry a lot and avoid Flak

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(you can dodge Flak)

proper dagger
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You don't like this version of bomber

trail moth
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As it is?

proper dagger
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Yes

trail moth
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It's utter garbage

proper dagger
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Understandable

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And pinpointed

trail moth
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Striker can always kill you and killing the mech means owning the field

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Osprey is a support mech, Paladin works good on ground, Helix... Anti mech i guess

proper dagger
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If you can't kill them early game how does bomber not win

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Still serious?

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The game is fast

trail moth
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Bomber? Paper plane with no realistic capabilities. Can't kill mechs, has crap dps and speed

Warthog? Always useless. If it runs out of energy, you're a fluffly puppy.

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HAAT

proper dagger
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Bomber is very versatile

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So is striker

trail moth
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Vs HAAT?

proper dagger
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Yes

trail moth
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Oh yeah go for it

proper dagger
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You know why?

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Because if they build HAAT then they are squishier

trail moth
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How so

proper dagger
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Haat isnt cost effective

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Else it would be meta

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Like how good stinger is

trail moth
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You spam Flakker

proper dagger
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Very much a really good AA

trail moth
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And spread your units

proper dagger
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yes but then they push into you with tanks

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Gg?

trail moth
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You kill them

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What they do?

proper dagger
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You kill the tanks because of misplay

trail moth
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No i meant he tries to bomb you and dies since fire makes flak shoot without range limit

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It applies to all flak

proper dagger
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Like I said

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You don:t bomb them

trail moth
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Then what's the point of using bomber?

proper dagger
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And if you know what your opponent is, you can predict them

proper dagger
trail moth
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No

proper dagger
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Okay, it is thinking outside of respected norms

trail moth
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I'd play Saucer Osprey Paladin or even poopy Neo

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Nerfed to the grounds

proper dagger
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So like, using joker t45 assassin instead of tanks, butchers and rebel

trail moth
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T45 can work sometimes

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3.5k vs 7k for tanks

proper dagger
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T45 has its place.

trail moth
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You have more dps than a tank for half its price

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Can outrange buster tank

proper dagger
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Yes

trail moth
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Dies in seconds

proper dagger
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You outrange tanks for low cost

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Good fire rate

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Etc.

trail moth
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I'd use it if it was 1 upkeep

proper dagger
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I use it

trail moth
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I feel like Bucky does a better job

proper dagger
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T45 is great

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It is unexpected

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Builds very quickly

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Spammable xd

trail moth
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Gatty is my thing

proper dagger
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I use both

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I think gatty is too powerful to neglect

trail moth
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I forger about Teslas and how good they are

proper dagger
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T45 is a good mix between longhorn and gatty

trail moth
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And regret it

proper dagger
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I just keep them in my loadout

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I always will

trail moth
proper dagger
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I think I subconsciously filter them out because their design is so secular

trail moth
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The problem is it's armor piercing

proper dagger
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Right

trail moth
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Also Devastator...

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It sucks

proper dagger
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Thats why I didn't know how to use them

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But their dps is insane so they can defend against position overtakes

trail moth
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Never build Devastator unless you are upkeep capped

trail moth
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Devastator had no dps

proper dagger
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Yes

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xd

trail moth
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It's literally the crappiest unit in the game

proper dagger
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You are stuck on that game I lost

trail moth
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No that no

proper dagger
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When I am simply lucky enough to play xd

trail moth
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I lost to JesusGod

proper dagger
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JesusIsGod7

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So what?

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You guys should be even

trail moth
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Not really

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Devastator is just garbage

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You waste eco time and carry speed

proper dagger
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lol you lost to your own devastators??

trail moth
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I am never building that piece of sh1t

proper dagger
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Understandable

trail moth
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Spam Goliath and call it a day

proper dagger
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I might build two but it is great for survival

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Im glad they made it obsolete

trail moth
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It rotates way too slow

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It shoot too slow

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It has literally no armor

proper dagger
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It doesn't quite shoot too slow

trail moth
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It's so slow

trail moth
proper dagger
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Just shoots slower that it should if it was supposed to be balanced

proper dagger
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It's niche

trail moth
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30k for an obsolete tank?

proper dagger
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But like sentry turret

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It can be used if you want

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So go and innovate ๐Ÿ˜…

trail moth
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Nagh the fu

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Sentry turret is just a Meme

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Devastator is

proper dagger
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Not rly

trail moth
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Like

proper dagger
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I beat Lords on strike in a serious game

trail moth
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The main selling point of this game

proper dagger
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With sentry

trail moth
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If you play well it can work

proper dagger
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I never forgot it

trail moth
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But i prefer meta stuff

proper dagger
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The game was very fun

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I was neo on chasm

proper dagger
trail moth
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Idk

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Something stupid

proper dagger
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????

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Dev is bad against almost everything in combination