#to allow use to trade higher tair items with each other

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valid gyro
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like greens stuff and all colours stuff

shrewd glacier
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I believe it was removed for balance reasons otherwise people would just trade for the best gear instead of earning it. I could be wrong though.

haughty valve
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It does feel better to earn higher rarities, but uncommon can be added to the list. Just my opinion

valid gyro
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i was meant like for people looking for good gear because people like me that grinds and dont get what they need for wastelands and there are people who has things that i need

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but dont forget there lvl caps on iteams as well and you have to get it for dimonds

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and by the time you can get the lvl you probably have something better or the same thing

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pluse stuff form arena you can buy of the store when someone put it up

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and that broken gear

shrewd glacier
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leveling up is easy. Getting BIS items is the end game.

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Normals suffice just fine until you get what you need plus you can gamble for specific gear with salvage

valid gyro
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you forget it also is for airmech that why you can't trade is for people lvl on that and when do you get golden drops for chips

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best chip i have gotten in the time i have played and afk farming

valid gyro
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also when you get stuff on apologise that lvl 40 stuff then tell me that fair

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and that with luck booster iteam

valid gyro
shrewd glacier
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You just casually ignore the part where you can spend salvage on chips?

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Plus chips are almost pointless

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the stats they boost are almost entirely irrelevant

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Comms and head are important because they boost units. Scrappers are useful for farming. Weapons are important and so can special parts be but if you farm for salvage you can get tons of rolls for specific parts you're missing

valid gyro
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ok when when the chip are the same as you have on why bother

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and which one dose chips come under?

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or even better

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@shrewd glacier

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you do know i have spent lots of time with people like mathew and ghg that dont even have a problem with the game but they "totally didn't teach me how to play"

valid gyro
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@pulsar saffron can you confirm this is true

shrewd glacier
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"special part" I believe. If you hover over a chip it should tell you want kind of part it is

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Sometimes it will give you other special parts tho not just chips.

valid gyro
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ok nothing come up and specail can include com links telporters and other stuff

shrewd glacier
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can it? I thought special parts couldn't give comms because it's it's own section

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Unless you mean the builder comms?

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hmm

valid gyro
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and it cost 52k per one which is 50 mins of afk farming

shrewd glacier
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What??

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I get like 1 mil in like 2 hours 30ish

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I forget how much

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or how long rather

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but around that much

valid gyro
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but what farm do you do and the mecks

shrewd glacier
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you need to use scrapper parts with "Salvage Income bonus"

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Also I farm death march apoca

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afk

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I start with a gothic saucer and steal tons of devastators and stuff which keep their buffed stats

valid gyro
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ok so my saucer is trash

shrewd glacier
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then I die and switch to my iron hand bomber

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because it has +25 sal plus my salvage parts equipped

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you don't need to use saucer I believe you told me you farmed dm apoca yourself

pulsar saffron
# valid gyro <@267042542011285504> can you confirm this is true

Anything Wastelands related is not going to be updated. In terms of parts on the side of Reboot, I believe giving a market free option to trade parts of random rarities other than unique ones and legendary ones could be somewhat troublesome but interesting as a result. It'll probably end off later on as a collectible marketplace for parts.

shrewd glacier
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the only important part is vacuum scrappers plus salvage parts plus iron hand bomber

valid gyro
shrewd glacier
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also waist pouch item gives +10

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If you're able to afk farm death march apoca using your own strat you don't need to follow mine

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The only thing you've probably forgotten is using salvage income bonus gear plus vacuum scrappers plus refreshing the scrappers when they despawn

valid gyro
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you do know i know all that you sayed and it make no point because you are not understanding what the point of this is

shrewd glacier
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How do you know this when you claim you only get 52k for 50 minutes

valid gyro
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it for people who has to meany hours to be able to trade good parts

shrewd glacier
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My point is that you don't need to trade parts you can farm them

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This is why we're talking about salvage gambles

valid gyro
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how meany people people do you think i have help over the years?

shrewd glacier
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Anyone who knows how to play this game and knows whats good can solo up until maybe whitewater apoca

valid gyro
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and it make no sense to put a blocker on parts that can be traded when you can trade mk4 stuff that broken even more form arena

shrewd glacier
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mk4 stuff isn't dropping or being sold anymore

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they sell for thousands

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that's the old system they're getting rid of

valid gyro
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not really i have never played arena and i have mk4 stuff

shrewd glacier
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Pretty sure that's because it was from strike not arena

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arena is the old console port

valid gyro
shrewd glacier
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Yes this is a rare item these days

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You'd probably get decent diamonds for it

valid gyro
shrewd glacier
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crystal is definitely better

valid gyro
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i only pay 300 Dimonds

shrewd glacier
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I think they're easily in the thousands when they were last mentioned

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they're getting rid of that system because being able to get op gear straight away leaves people becoming bored as there's nothing to farm or work towards

valid gyro
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and it really not had because people like mathew and ghg

shrewd glacier
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??

valid gyro
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there lots of people have the gear

shrewd glacier
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Yes? The point is new players will earn their gear instead of insta getting high level stuff

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Obviously the devs aren't going to yoink gear out of your account

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after you paid for it

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they did nerf it in reboot tho

valid gyro
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ok you start a lvl 1 person and try to use lvl 60 gear then

shrewd glacier
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Do you realise how easy it is to level up and buy/trade for cheap legendary gear next to your level?

valid gyro
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ok how much is it to max you meck out on wastelands

shrewd glacier
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idk why you're talking about maxing

valid gyro
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and who is going to waste there time on getting gear for lvl 20 when it easier to get yourself to 60

shrewd glacier
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Im saying leveling your mech is faster than farming gear

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leveling early game is easy so mid/late game is farming for gear

valid gyro
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so by your logic trade gear would be better

shrewd glacier
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no trading would delete the end game farming

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well end/mid game

valid gyro
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end game you would have no problem with kill the boss

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yes?

shrewd glacier
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Not without gear

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depends how rushed you are

valid gyro
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not really when you hit apocalypse you would be a bit stacked

shrewd glacier
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Apocalypse is where it becomes harder without good gear. I was still using level 40 gear when I unlocked apoca

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And I'd already farmed until max level before that

valid gyro
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i know when you rush someone they at lest have blue gear

shrewd glacier
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Yeah but legendary or blue level 40 is worse than common level 60

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well for weapons at least

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and maybe armor

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You need armor and armor piercing

valid gyro
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ok warzone is 50 gear and doomday lvl 60 gear so it the idoits that dont care about them selfs that make it harder on them self

shrewd glacier
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?

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You mean people who didn't farm

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farming is part of end game

valid gyro
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it really not it starter game and mid

shrewd glacier
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nah first two playthroughs require zero farming

valid gyro
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because end game is helping new players out

shrewd glacier
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that's not end game lol

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plus you'd delete that "endgame" if they could all buy op gear which matches their level

valid gyro
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so your telling me that lots of people are rwong

shrewd glacier
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lots of people? Who else is saying that you should be able to trade? The diamond farmers?

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When people reach max level with maxed gear they just won't play anymore

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new players wont need the help if they can easily purchase the gear they need

valid gyro
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how about 90%of these people have gear that if they were able to trade with people there wouldn't be a problem

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shrewd glacier
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"Wouldn't be a problem"

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What problem are you even talking about?

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Problem being they can't speedrun the game?

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When someone finishes the game they will no longer play. Letting them purchase gear instead of farming it removes some of the gameplay loop

valid gyro
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yes becouse they dont find it fun to grind because it became all about the grind

shrewd glacier
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the first two playthroughs require 0 grind

valid gyro
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if you like the gring go play ark

shrewd glacier
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grinding is only for hardcore players who want some content and they want to minimax

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lol

valid gyro
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no game ment for fun not the grind were it boring

shrewd glacier
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If you had it your way the playthroughs would all almost be identical with the only things being different is bigger stat numbers and bigger enemy numbers

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that's not gameplay

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if you wanna be casual play once or twice

valid gyro
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ok if you speed run the game you might as well get someone to play for you

shrewd glacier
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Yeah you want to speedrun

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And you literally play with new players instead of teaching them how to play

valid gyro
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no becouse i like the game and dont diss on it

shrewd glacier
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lol

valid gyro
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funny

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go ask stick he lvl 30 and i didn't speed run his game so

shrewd glacier
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You didn't play with him?

valid gyro
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no i did but just kept him form dieing that it

shrewd glacier
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lmao

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so you did carry

valid gyro
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no he kill the bots i save the base that it

shrewd glacier
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"save the base"

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you mean the lose condition?

valid gyro
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on narmal yes

shrewd glacier
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The first two playthroughs are easy to solo

valid gyro
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no duh i help you on nomal

shrewd glacier
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I made an alt and solo'd it

valid gyro
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after learning the game

shrewd glacier
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I lacked knowledge

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yes

valid gyro
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like hell you did

shrewd glacier
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I wouldn't have learned if I got carried through easy mode

valid gyro
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so

shrewd glacier
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so?

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so you should get good

valid gyro
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so you played airmeck for how long before you got wastelands

shrewd glacier
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getting through hard difficulties by boosting numbers is a noob thing. Coop is only probably necessary on maybe the hardest difficulty

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like a week

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or maybe 2 I forget

valid gyro
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i got to doomday before i ask for help i didn't play airmeck before and i learned by good people who was willing to help me

shrewd glacier
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Yes helping by sharing knowledge is good

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"Helping" by giving matching legendary gear is not helping them learn

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When I discovered uber I knew dm was easy

valid gyro
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no the problem i had was high way to hell

shrewd glacier
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yee without uber on a good mech it's hard solo

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anyways im queuing a match rn so my responses might be slower

valid gyro
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i didn't know about ubers until i ask mathew and ghg

shrewd glacier
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yeah it doesn't introduce them very well

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I mention it whenever a noob struggles on highway

valid gyro
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i was a bucky spamming and nothing else

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but that why when i see people on i ask if they want help but grinding is not fun that why i stop play ark and rust because that all you do on game like that and it not fun

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and i totally havent grind a nuff

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shrewd glacier
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Grinding is fun for me tho. I like the dopamine hit of a good drop like diablo or something

valid gyro
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but not a lot of people like grinding for stuff because it a one and done time thing and being able to trade of your stuff to people who want it will help the people who hate grinding and it make it more fun to go play airmeck with friends then sit and grind for hours by yourself

shrewd glacier
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you can play airmech without grinding tho? Nobody forces you to play higher difficulties.

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You can also farm while having fun like doing coop survival or side missions or whatever

valid gyro
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here im just going to put this in the nice way im really dont care at this point about what your saying