Delete me

[brisk crest]

buff them back? O)>

@charred vapor a better specialist

I think, Jackals are espesially bad right now

and when you kill one it's explosion hurt others

[languid night]

No unit names and numbers, as usual.

[brisk crest]

not sure how many light units are affected by explosion

[brisk crest]

yeah, I don't remember what they changed and didn't care much

but I'm sure @charred vapor knows more than me

@languid night Also, you can ask @solemn veldt

[languid night]

Ask what?

[brisk crest]

I don't really like to discuss - just aim to the problem

I'm your guider @languid night

[brisk crest]

read the title again

[odd moon]

Jackals are bad because the income is low too

[brisk crest]

they were nerfed to the ground

[languid night]

That's not how you fix stuff. We have other balance suggestions about light units, and you just duplicate threads

[brisk crest]

in the past Jackals were good vs tanks

and rebels vs light units

[odd moon]

On Xbox jackals were super op

[languid night]

The peoblem is lack of post body. You write about light units, yet you don't give a names and issues.

Just go and fix it for me

[brisk crest]

Probably, Rebels too

at one period of time in Airmech we spammed only Rebels

[odd moon]

At the start of this update I spammed rebels and won a lot

But now it’s tango

[solemn veldt]

Probably is a good idea to roll that back now

[brisk crest]

The problem is obvious for those who implemented those changes though - just bring back stats until they were implemented

[brisk crest]

I think so too O)>

[odd moon]

@brisk crest do you think gatty is too op right now?

[brisk crest]

possible but not that OP as bucky and shooter

in theory Arty could counter buckies

[solemn veldt]

It affected Joker, Jackal, Gangster, Ratters, and Flakker

[brisk crest]

but bucky has bigger range if Im not mistaken

[solemn veldt]

They had no death blast damage before that time

[brisk crest]

I think gatty used to be must have because of Butcher

[languid night]

Yeah? Who implemented it?

[brisk crest]

Lets concentrate on the fixing the problem

I don't know all things

[odd moon]

Arty has way less range than Bucky

Arty has like same range as a tank

[languid night]

That should have been in first post

[brisk crest]

?

[brisk crest]

and this is weird because Arty main advantage is blast damage

[odd moon]

@brisk crest I don’t understand this guy. He doesn’t play the game but loves to debate people about it

[brisk crest]

I think he is a part of councils team

[languid night]

Do u see issues with what i write?

[solemn veldt]

If it devolves into this, the thread will get locked

[brisk crest]

lock it pls

because why not? xd

[odd moon]

This guy doesn’t play the game but types the most in each thread

[languid night]

Surprisingly. What do you think i miss?

[brisk crest]

I agree, fedcomp needs more expirience with a live version

but he is a smart guy overall

[languid night]

What experience i miss in your opinion?

[brisk crest]

it's he just inactive

[solemn veldt]

It's irrelevant.

[brisk crest]

To make a perfect patch is a way of make and try, don't you agree?

[solemn veldt]

Talk about the suggestion or take it somewhere else

I'm tired of reading this crap all over the place

[brisk crest]

true, I will make another topic about that

[languid night]

Let's try to fix this thread.

Specify the units and what changes you want to do.

[brisk crest]

open pathcnotes and just roll the changes back as Insane said

[charred vapor]

To find the heavy mine changes, I basically just ctrl+f through these.
https://airmech.fandom.com/wiki/Patch_Notes_(Old)
https://airmech.fandom.com/wiki/Patchnotes:_Strike
For this one > https://steamcommunity.com/app/206500/announcements/ I just google search and pray I can find what patch it aligns to.

These are the relevant jackal changes.
Post Strike (2019)
Jackal armor piercing decreased from 30 to 20
Pre Strike (2016)
Jackal build cost increased from 2500 to 3000

[charred vapor]

Strike Update #269 - 2018
Gangster HP decreased from 1600 to 1375
Gangster upkeep increased from 1 to 2
Strike Update #268 - 2018
Gangster carry weight increased from 710 to 1100

Strike Update #246 - 2017
Joker cheaper/faster to build (Change to current 2.0 build time and 1500 credits. People switch to these after the jackal nerf. Looks like it was 1650 to 1500, idk what old build time was, Maybe 2.5?).
Some lighter units build faster now (Idk what this effected, maybe rebels and zippers)

Gangsters were op, but maybe they should get like 25 armor piercing instead of 20. Jackals could get either one or the other nerfs reversed since they are bad, I'd prefer the armor piercing change to 30.

[upper creek]

Suggestion:
Remove all death blast damage from Joker, Jackal, Gangster, Ratters, and Flakker
This was added in update #274.3

[brisk crest]

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