#Destiny Intertwined

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shadow pine
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BLEP!

zinc glacier
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Just imagine adult malefor doing that.

latent snow
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Puppy!

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The creator should sell this as a book when they’re finished :o

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I’d buy it

zinc glacier
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I buy it in Barnes and Noble

raven furnace
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Golden retriever energy

shadow pine
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Adult Malefor roley poleys are no laughing matter.

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Except for those not in the radius, then it's funny.

shadow pine
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I'd buy a copy if he could though.

shadow pine
# austere urchin Definitely couldn't.

Thought so, you always have to get permission first. Say he did, I can almost guarantee any profits he'd make from his fanfic comic, a good portion of that would go to Activision as well.

austere urchin
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Technically, selling any kind of fanart without permission is a copyright violation (unless it was carved out explicitly).
Companies just turn a blind eye because it's both not worth pursuing, and it's good for PR and community building.

hot pagoda
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I mean, at this stage he just wants to be the "good boy" they all expect him to be. What he said to Hayze before was nothing but the words they conditioned him to say. He didn't mean them. He thought he did, but Hayze gave him a reality check of sorts and now he is processing it.

latent snow
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Apologising isn’t a small thing
I do wonder what makes him crack and become evil, because he doesn’t seem evil natured rn

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Some people can never apologise

hot pagoda
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Oh I know, I was actually trying to say he meant the apology. As in, the "good boy" was him talking about being the weapon against shadow dragons. I wasn't saying the apology isn't real, just that it's the sign that he doesn't truly understand how much he's just being puppeted so Hayze biting back that they expect Malefore to kill even Hayze made him feel so uncomfortable.

latent snow
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Oh I was saying my thingy unrelated to your thingy!

hot pagoda
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Fair!

latent snow
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Must be hard for Hayze

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Imagine having a friend who was raised being told he’s supposed to wipe out your race or country, and he really wants to do it, but he also really wants to be your friend
Would be weird, and disturbing

west shoal
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"Malefor, your destiny, your existence is to 'expel the dark'"

pastel matrix
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"Malefor, the ancestors have deemed them to be the enemy of dragonkind. If you do not destroy them, as was foretold, then they will not hesitate to kill us all."

west shoal
pastel matrix
west shoal
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The Elders and Council totally twisted the prophecy to fit their agendas…

west shoal
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“Malefor being born and set alight all-consuming darkness baring down upon the Realm, only death in its wake” “with powers never before seen, bringing forth a new era”

And it’ll all be because of the Elders, the Council, and Warfang city’s corruption pushing Malefor to be a weapon against the Dark dragons

hot pagoda
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When "facing the most powerful of the black blooded" probably just means the dark hearts of the corrupt leading dragons.

latent snow
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What if it means he’s starting a darkness

latent snow
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Also it’s interesting the prophet doesn’t have wings
I wonder why this is

sick swallow
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I think their wings might just be folded up behind their body

latent snow
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I was thinking about it as I was falling asleep
And I’m thinking

What if the original prophecy could go either way, like, maybe he’s the bringer of darkness or maybe he’s the one that fights it off. And then the elders were like “okay well since it can go either way let’s push it towards the one we want”

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But in doing that they push it towards the one they don’t want :o

west shoal
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That's the thing with vague prophecies, they can be twisted and wind up exactly as it fortells and not to what others interpret it to be about

shadow pine
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Dark times ahead folks.

hoary locust
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This kinda feels a bit like "Wicked but in the TLoS mythos and without songs," which only makes it more interesting.

hot pagoda
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I am not really catching the smae similarities

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Other than really basic plot device similarities

pastel matrix
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Getting the vision reinterpreted would be a good start. Well, hopefully.

zinc glacier
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This malefor face just made my day of fucking April...

sick swallow
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Yeah, I can see the similarities, if you compare Malefor and Hayze to Glinda and Wicked Witch...
But also, that's still barely a surface level comparison, beyond the similar public treatment of the main characters. At least from what I can see

royal oar
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Awh x3

limpid wolf
shadow pine
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They made up!

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Malefor-Hayze shippers meanwhile:

sick swallow
# shadow pine Malefor-Hayze shippers meanwhile:

I know it’s not gonna stop anyone, but still warrants adding:
Friendly reminder that these characters are children. They are teenagers and by both their own metrics, in-universe, as well as our own, they are minors.

I’m not criticising the joke - I know what fandoms are like - I’m merely reminding everyone here: keep it clean, please and thank you

latent snow
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I can relate to not liking hugs lol

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Also, Malefor has some MUSCLES

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That’s like my boyfriends arm and he’s a body builder who works out every day and is on a super strict diet

hot pagoda
# sick swallow *I know it’s not gonna stop anyone, but still warrants adding:* Friendly reminde...

Personally, I appreciate the sentiment, but keep in mind no one mentioned adult themes yet. They seem mid-late teens and it's not abnormal for them to explore relationships on their own terms. Talking about shipping does not have to mean adult themes, and being the first to bring those themes up, even in warning, can sometimes do more damage than it prevents, as the people involved may not have even been thinking about that until it was mentioned.

austere urchin
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Yeah uh, shipping exists in every fandom, including ones where the characters are all minors.

That doesn’t mean the shippers are thinking about it in an explicit manner.

sick swallow
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While yes, I do recognise the distinction between casual shipping, and specifically adult themes, DI does already contain a lot of adult themes as it stands, so it's often still important to remind people that various characters have to be treated differently from others.
Additionally, and perhaps more importantly, Jack has gone on record to say that any romantic shipping of his teenage/ underage characters makes him uncomfortable - even when it's with other characters of the same age group.

Again, yes I know it's gonna happen anyway, but I'm asking people be very mindful of it, especially since the creator himself is averse to it as well.

zinc glacier
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Age them up will work.

sick swallow
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Also, shipping tends to make fans/ fandoms ugly, even in the best of times; so just trying to prevent that by calling it out early.

sick swallow
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Anyway, that's my 2 cents on the matter. Take it or leave it, but It's probably best to move on now.

ashen horizon
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Could we just leave the kid characters alone and just enjoy the story

zinc glacier
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All right then

shadow pine
# sick swallow *I know it’s not gonna stop anyone, but still warrants adding:* Friendly reminde...

I didn't even see this response from my discord alerts. I'm just gonna respond and then put this to bed.

Just to be clear: It was meant exactly as that, a casual joke and nothing more. Nor would I ever imply things of an explicit nature given the age of Malefor and Hayze. And believe me, I've seen things like that in other fandoms which imo is inappropriate. Exactly like you said as well in your response below about "ageing up characters". Although I haven't seen Jack's opinion on that (and if you have by all means link it just for ease of mind) but if I was in his shoes I'd feel very uncomfortable with that too.

Also, I haven't really seen people take offense to this as I've seen on DeviantArt in the comments that people do ship them together but this is purely based on my observation and nothing else.

It's all good though, I get where you're coming from and thank you for reminding us all to air on the side of caution.

latent snow
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I think shipping is silly, idk why it’s so popular

Like in rain world, none of the main characters even have a gender, and they never meet eachother due to living in vastly different times, and yet people are giving them genders and shipping them

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And also giving them hair for some reason?? lol

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Completely detracts from the story and purpose of the game, and the lore, and just makes no sense lol

pastel matrix
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I love that Hayze's brain had to load for a few seconds before he realized what he was witnessing

raven furnace
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Hayze's brain in the third panel

latent snow
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Forked tongue

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I wonder if they all have that

hot pagoda
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Very forked, that goes back pretty far.

sick swallow
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it's mostly unique to dark dragons iirc

shadow pine
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I thought at first it was Ice.

pastel matrix
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It IS ice.

west shoal
hoary locust
# latent snow I wonder if they all have that

Young Hayze did have a forked tongue, too, as shown just before he used his powers against Vitreus.

From the looks of things, whenever a dragon's tongue is fully shown, it appears to be forked. Malefor was an expection though.

west shoal
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Fire and Electric Dragons have forked tongues. Some of the Frostspears, including Frostir, have forked tongues too

latent snow
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Oh interesting

zinc glacier
west shoal
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"I have to be more."

And we have Malefor's drive to pleasing the council to their expectations.

ashen horizon
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Aaand here comes the pressure to be something more

pastel matrix
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Enough just isn't enough

royal oar
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DRACONIS: It all makes sense now.

raven furnace
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He started off as a lonely kid, different and looking for acceptance. Instead, he was pushed towards violence and death

latent snow
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Idk why but it reminds me of Micheal Jackson
That guy kept getting pushed by his dad, ended up messing him up in many ways as an adult

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Like if a show didn’t do perfectly it’s reported he’d cry after and think it was bad

raven furnace
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That's the case for a lot of people who's fame starts as children. At some point the parents stop caring about their kid's wellbeing and focus all their energy on making making sure they maintain that fame. Because if they don't? Then all the perks the parents have disappeare

Same sort of situation here. If Malefor isn't pushed to become the perfect weapon the council loses the power they've gained

hot pagoda
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It's also just not easy being famous. It takes a mature mind to handle all those eyes on you, and if it happens too early, a kid will develop unhealthy coping mechanisms a lot easier than an adult that's more prepared for the attention, even caring and well meaning parents can fail here if they aren't experienced in being famous themselves because they won't know how to help.

ashen horizon
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I know a few people that had this issue with fame especially some singers

shadow pine
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The first seed of doubt has been planted folks.

raven furnace
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"Invaded by Warfang supported Warlords"
Starting to wonder if the Dark Lands even wanted any conflict or if Warfang started this out of pure paranoia and need for dominance

hot pagoda
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It's probably going to be the latter. This story seems to pretty clearly demonstrate that, while the first dark dragons may have been born of corruption and bloodlust, they eventually settled out as just another type of dragon. Their powers, after all, aren't inherently evil, they (assuming their origin is even true in this version of the universe) just have an unfortunate history.

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After all.

Creatures only capable of destruction and hatred.

...aren't typically capable of forming organized civilization.

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The very existence of an established city in the dark lands is a sign there's a lot of misinformation and disinformation on dark dragons in this universe.

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I wonder...

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Could this story be taking an angle of Malefore picking up Hayzes shadow power and being immediately rejected by the dragons he devoted his life to please?

latent snow
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I wonder, is the green fire poison+fire?

pastel matrix
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Maleficent is the first character that comes to my mind when I think of green fire users

latent snow
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Oh interestingly I heard Cynder was inspired by her and was originally going to have green flame

shadow pine
hoary locust
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New page just dropped.

pastel matrix
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The third panel has a dead baby dragon spyromegapog

latent snow
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Ooh I see it now

bronze sun
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Poor babycynpensive

limpid wolf
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That's war.

latent snow
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Sadly, it’s often the civilians that want nothing to do with it paying the price

quartz magnet
ashen horizon
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War is never kind to either side

royal oar
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There are no winners in war.

limpid wolf
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War does not determine who is right. Only who is left.

pastel matrix
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Finally, a new page. I wonder if he's speaking to one of those warlords alluded to a few pages back

shadow pine
west shoal
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DUUUUUDDDEEE

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HUGE FEAR BLEED PILE

ashen horizon
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😨

shadow pine
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Damn.

pastel matrix
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The massacre...

hoary locust
latent snow
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Maybe he is like “if you can’t beat em join em”

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They destroyed everything, he had nothing left, so .. idk he went to bow and say hi

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(Also isn’t that electric guy Hayze’s adoptive dad or did I get the name wrong?)

hoary locust
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That being said, is there something with Tordner's scars that remind me of Lynerius'?

latent snow
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Tordner, I don’t remember him at all :o

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Is he related to Lynerius? They look so similar

hoary locust
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No mention of Tordner here though. The image cuts off his name.

shadow pine
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He first appears in Chapter 2 all the way back then.

latent snow
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Ooh I see

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Yeah it does look like him, light muzzle

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Though he’s missing the black tip on the muzzle

west shoal
latent snow
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I’m curious to see water dragons and their abilities

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I wonder if they can make it rain

west shoal
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Warfang using half-blooded dark dragons as spies for the Dark Lands

hoary locust
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Scout's got a name.

Also, Ysage is female.

shadow pine
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So yep, she is indeed in kahoots with Tordner.

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And Tordner is GOD DAMN TRAITOR!

pastel matrix
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We've reached the end of the year, folks

zinc glacier
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Sounds like wings of fire in destiny intertwined

pastel matrix
zinc glacier
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Oh fuck

pastel matrix
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Less than savory indeed...

west shoal
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And it’s the new years

latent snow
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Funny, it was the Māori new year yesterday here!

west shoal
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Frostspears hanging out at a nightclub

shadow pine
pastel matrix
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They're new

west shoal
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Frossar’s siblings

pastel matrix
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With enough gold, you can get away with almost anything GlydeAngry

ashen horizon
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Wow the scene reminds me of a talk in Game of Thrones

latent snow
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Blech, those guys seeing ladies only as objects

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Also sounds like there’s some trafficking going on?

raven furnace
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Wouldn't be surprised if they are trafficking dark dragons

west shoal
shadow pine
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I can't wait to see him die.

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Whoever does it, whether it's Malefor, the Dark Dragons etc: Kill him like the rest. You'll be doing all of dragon society a favour. 😄

native cipher
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Oh wow, I missed this until now.

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That's crazy.

shadow pine
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You know what they say where the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. In this case, I don't think the apples have even left the ground.

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So the other one is Frosun. The one all glammed up.

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You know what, they're both turds.

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Both are just different shades of it.

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I wasn't aware that slavery was actually in this but it is.

native cipher
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I believe in one of the written stories attached to the website there were some depictions of it, such as hush-hush cage fights.

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As well as some implications that a lot more took place in spots like that.

shadow pine
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Definitely taking a lot of those parallels to human society of today.

native cipher
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The unfortunate thing they fail to realize is when you find a way to justify superiority over others, there's almost nothing keeping them from treating them terribly.

shadow pine
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Just keep Isrun and Vitreus away from it.

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They deserve to be spared.

latent snow
native cipher
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Don't think a fictional world relates very well to real life horrors..

west shoal
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Isrun is the clan matriarch, mother of Frossar, Isolda, Skadin, and the two frostspears featured in the comic page. And grandmother of Vitreus

shadow pine
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Yeah Isrun, she can burn with the rest.

native cipher
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I hope we get to see more of her.

sick swallow
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And yeah, Frostspears have always been a problem - we’ve seen it since Ch. 1 - but also, one underlying implication to remember here is that they’re not an exception.
Frostspears are often among the worst examples of corruption because their positions give them soo much room to abuse their power. But from what we see, it’s generally understood that a majority of clans and clan dragons are just as bad, in some way or another

limpid wolf
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The Frostspears are just the most upfront about it because of their political leverage.

raven furnace
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Nothing covers dirty business like a war. Wouldn't be surprised if it was staged so certain families could climb the ladder

native cipher
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All three of these takes are also great points.

sick swallow
raven furnace
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Kinda sounds like they are doing it to themselves. Poking the bear then using that as an excuse to blame their problems on and justify making more

sick swallow
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add in an empire sized lack of self-awareness, and yeah, that's probably quite accurate

raven furnace
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Not to mention they are carrying a walking talking nuke in their back pocket and treating him like a get out of jail free card

After all, who would dare stand in their way when they have the most powerful dragon in existence on their leash

shadow pine
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Warfang is a big city.

native cipher
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Agreed, Haze knew about Malefore before meeting him IIRC, and he was a kid. If kids know it, there's no doubt an active force attempting to find information through any means would be able to learn it.

shadow pine
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To be honest though, we don't know much about the Dark Dragon societies and their political system (if they even have one).

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We only know a bit from the perspective of Warfang.

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Or at least the higher ups.

shadow pine
native cipher
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I think they trained together before he ran away.

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Or tried to.

shadow pine
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No, the first time was when Malefor came to meet the class.

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with Amberius.

raven furnace
shadow pine
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But still, they're parading Malefor around so it's obviously something they're not ashamed about.

native cipher
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I would say that still kinda counts, but will conceed that it might have been a "Special" case because Hayze himself was there. And we know a little about them (When it comes to them being okay with using Hayze as a training dummy.)

shadow pine
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To be honest, I'm not entirely convinced the dark dragons are even trying to start a war atm with the recent revelation of Tordner up to his machinations.

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Although we still don't know much yet on that front.

native cipher
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I'd go a step further- I am entirely unconvinced that the "Dark dragons" started this.

shadow pine
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Yeah, I mean if it was, it's probably an instigator on their end working with someone like Tordner.

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Both in it for their own benefit.

native cipher
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It's just too easy, right? Villanize the ones you were already going to look down on for accepting Shadow because they're sick or have problems, and then start a war against them for expansion and profit.

hoary locust
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Plus in that first meeting, as I'm sure you'll remember, all but Hayze couldn't beat Malefor (most lost, Cerau yielded, and both Terin and Scorchis declined despite there being no prior hint that fighting Malefor was optional).

shadow pine
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Yep, it's just the kind of fuel you need to start a war.

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And then they'll claim they knew nothing.

native cipher
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I think Hayze would've been in a different position had he not done so well against Malefor.

shadow pine
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Probably.

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I am looking forward to seeing the dark dragons officially.

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Outside of flashbacks.

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And I wonder if we'll see more of the other races eventually.

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I'd love to see the Atlawa. The nomadic llama people from Tall Plains.

native cipher
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Oh yeah, that'd be awesome!

shadow pine
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But in particular, the Cheetahs.

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Hunter's race.

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Actually, it's interesting as well.

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We know they're currently at war with them and yet we've hardly seen much with the Apes.

raven furnace
# shadow pine To be honest, I'm not entirely convinced the dark dragons are even trying to sta...

Oh they definitely aren't. The nobles probably looked at their situation and thought "hmmm, we are losing our profits and power, how can we get that back? I know! The dark dragons look different and dangerous, why don't we find a way to exploit people's mistrust and fear of them for our own gain?" Then went about stirring up trouble and pinning it on the dark dragons

Plus, since they now have a walking WMD their positions are even more secure. People did it in WW one and two after all

native cipher
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Exaaactly.

hot pagoda
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I mean after all. Let's not forget the images of the dark dragons being dead in their homes.

This was not a defense.

This was an invasion.

native cipher
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That coupled with the forbidden knowledge that people came to accept the shadow because of various ailments..

native cipher
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I'm kinda curious, do you guys think it's gonna be some sort of clan v. clan fight that shows up in the next one, or is it some equivalent of a drug bust? Because I went to check if I missed anything, and I feel like I did- Other clan Frostspear in the tables next to them reacting to whatever was said with those little surprise lines. Are they being told to evacuate for some reason or another?

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I believe them to be Frostspears because both of them seem to have a necklace like Frosun, and it seems they're lounging in an area with floating ice crystals. Perhaps VIP areas for the particularly wealthy? Frosun and Isrind certainly fit that demographic, along with the rest of their clan.

native cipher
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OH hey idk if you guys noticed this...

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The dragon we saw reporting is a half-breed.

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I guess shadow and water.

zinc glacier
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Vitreus is very similar to winter from wings of fire.

west shoal
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A drunken Frossar picking a fight with Stormbringer. His siblings going to prevent Frossar from being blasted

pastel matrix
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I hope they don't succeed. I want to see Frossar get fried.

limpid wolf
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He's due for a karmic comeuppance again, and being turned into some comic relief.

hoary locust
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I wouldn't be surprised if Frossar ultimately gets offed for good later in the story. Hayze likely won't mourn him.

latent snow
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Which one is Frossar again?

limpid wolf
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He's Vitreus' dad, has long spiky horns, bent in the middle, black in color, he's captain of the Warfang guard, crooked too.

raven furnace
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Here's hoping he walks away from the encounter with a few less teeth >:3

hoary locust
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He has Frostir as a son too. That dreg is the worst kind of brother Vitreus can ever have.

raven furnace
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The whole lot of them are a little gang of sociopaths

hoary locust
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Need I forward this again...?

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Seriously, that's the face of someone whose family is almost entirely the worst ever. I can seriously imagine Vitreus dreaming of running away with Aunt Isolda...

west shoal
limpid wolf
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Lyn's got tons of bones to pick with him, alot of baggage to drop on his head.

native cipher
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Guess I was right about them being frostspears in the other booth too. Though it's starting to look like a mob...

native cipher
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Oh I am SO ready for this.

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I love how he's already just telling him to fuck off.

pastel matrix
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Zap him. Zap him! ZAP HIM!

raven furnace
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Don't zap him
cave his face in

latent snow
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I don’t remember who the ice guy is and what he’s done lol

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Is he the evil older brother of the little ice guy?

native cipher
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Nah, it's the dad of the little one.

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I know he sucks, but I absolutely love the changes in the design he's had over time, especially around the horns.

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His head reminds me of a giant snowflake.

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His muzzle markings are a little different too, the new markings almost look like false fangs.

latent snow
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Ooh I see

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Wow it’s interesting to see how the art has changed

native cipher
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Right??

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Kinda glad he got re-introduced like this, because he looks quite different.

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Glad I have an eye for that sorta thing.

west shoal
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Frossar underwent a redesign too, this is the first page we see of the redesign
#1074781851975172216 message

native cipher
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Oh yeah, it's not just a style difference. It looks good.

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(Again, hate to say that when he's such an ass.)

west shoal
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It's the truth XD
He was literally raised to hate Lynerius and the Stormbringer clan because they're something he can never be