#Destiny Intertwined

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shadow pine
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I have a better one

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😄

latent snow
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Yeah it’s weird

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I’m on the spectrum as well though, so maybe normal folks don’t find it weird

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Funnily enough animals like dogs, cats, and primates feel the same way about eye contact as we aspys do

shadow pine
latent snow
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Aspy buddies!
One of the questions I was asked during the test, was “does the phrase ‘I’ve got you under my skin’ make you uncomfortable”
Such an odd question
But yes it does

shadow pine
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I just realised you were talking about Styrmer

limpid wolf
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I myself was born with Asperger's syndrome and still have my struggles with it, but alot of my symptoms I've grown out of, many I did so without even consciously doing so.

shadow pine
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So that's actually really cool

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We get our first dragon on the spectrum

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I love the representation this author brings

limpid wolf
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Yes, it does seem indicated that Styrmer was autistic.

shadow pine
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and on that same note, the author himself is confirmed ot be an aspy too

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He admits this

limpid wolf
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That's believable.

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A non-autistic person I don't think would conceive of doing such an elaborate fanfiction series for Legend of Spyro in this manner.

shadow pine
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Probably also explains why he has such an incredible attention to detail

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both in his writing and art

latent snow
limpid wolf
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His artstyle has certainly improved overtime.

shadow pine
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Definately has

limpid wolf
shadow pine
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Not to go off-topic but that's good dude.

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Good on you.

limpid wolf
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Thanks.

latent snow
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I still can’t make eye contact with anyone I deem as superior to me
But I can glance at people I like, like my family

limpid wolf
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Yeah I think if we want to talk about ASDs further we shouldn't derail the DI thread, and instead if it has to do with the lore, like Styrmer, put it here, but if not, then... #💬general_offtopic

latent snow
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Oh right

west shoal
quartz magnet
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i just watched 10 min ago....

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anyway!

west shoal
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And Jack's description related to Tordner's demands to his son, a sad reminder of how it was back then for humanity too

sick swallow
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well alrighty then

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Honestly, this is turning out a bit better than I would have expected

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(partly because I've been low-key hoping they'd get Lyner and Auralis together, despite his protests. I honestly believe they're a pretty good match, personality-wise, or at worst still better than most alternatives cough "Icarius" cough)

west shoal
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Yeah, from the side stories and still images, Auralis is a definite match

sick swallow
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Yeah, I just want good things for Auralis, and honestly, who wouldn't?

surreal sparrow
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Wait who is he talking to

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Im confuzzled its been a while

sick swallow
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General Tordner is addressing Lynerius. This is a continuation of a conversation which began on the previous page

surreal sparrow
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Oh

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Yeah i need to go back a few more then mira_derp

west shoal
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Least the Council didn't appreciate Isrun and Frossar's escalation of the meeting, but apparently it's a common thing for her to insist she's innocent, like many corrupt officials

limpid wolf
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That atleast makes the council neutral on the matter, I understand why they demanded Lynerius be punished for his violent disruption, but they did take mind to Frossar's transgression, and if Tordner is saying the punishment is adequate then... that speaks volumes of how considerate the council also was to the Stormbringers.

stark haven
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I smell a quiet outburst coming.

stark haven
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Silent treatment, or will he tell Tordner what to do with himself?

shadow pine
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Daddy Tordner laying down the law

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And of course Isrun being the corrupt bitch politician that she is is feigning innocence. I hope we get to see to what extent she and her family were punished.

hidden depot
thorn dagger
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transfiguration magic wowMar

shadow pine
thorn dagger
# shadow pine I don't get it.

It's a silly pun where the dragon says "well" as in "well what now?" While the dragon they are talking to is replaced with an image of a literal well

shadow pine
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Now it all makes sense

thorn dagger
sick swallow
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Yes, it’s quite goofy GlydeGoofy

west shoal
limpid wolf
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Some tenderness from Tordner, that's a nice surprise.

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In a case of emotional conflict, too, a key thing that helps characters feel human.

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Well these are dragons we're talking about but you know what I mean, they seem believable as people.

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He's torn between having to be hard on his son for his behavior during the council and his impatience with him having children, and him feeling the pain on behalf of his son, who was just punished and had his adoptive kid ripped from him, there seems to be a little bit of apology in it.

surreal sparrow
quaint grove
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Poor baby is so tired. I can imagine..

royal oar
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Yeah especially after all of that man

stark haven
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Ice in the final panel...

shadow pine
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Call me surprised.

shadow pine
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That's going to be in the next page for sure.

west shoal
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Is it?

shadow pine
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I have a feeling it will

thick siren
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Watch it being a Frostpear Assassin that ends up killing Lynerius

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Making that the last time he and Hayze see each other

sick swallow
# stark haven Ice in the final panel...

Best I can tell, that’s just a cluster of crystals. Appears to me that the image is of a roof-window/ skylight, and those crystals are chandelier for lighting the room

thick siren
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The first one, top left

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"Do you want my surrender?"

shadow pine
west shoal
limpid wolf
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There's a timeskip, they're adults now.

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Young adults at that.

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Looks like Vitreus is sad, he deep down regarded Hayze as a friend in spite of it all, he was just acting out because of how his family acts and what they taught him.

west shoal
# limpid wolf There's a timeskip, they're adults now.

No theyre still teens. They’re talking about last night. Some of them saw Lyn’s lightning show when he was angry at the council meeting, plus Incendis trying to get a rise out of Vitreus for being beat by Malefor

stark haven
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The Grape of Legend.

limpid wolf
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They look considerably different from chapter 2.

west shoal
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Jack did an artistic upgrade during Chapter 2, I noticed that too

shadow pine
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Yeah it's definately not a timeskip

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It wouldn't make sense for a timeskip and for them to be talking about the confrontation in the Council Room from last night.

limpid wolf
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Yeah I see it now, nevermind.

west shoal
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Wonder if the flight will notice Hayze missing

limpid wolf
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They definitely will, Vitreus might even mention it, if he's not too shook by what transpired.

quaint grove
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I thought they were older too lol, it's because we rarely see the red one

thick siren
limpid wolf
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Oh she looks cool.

west shoal
sick swallow
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well heck 😨

limpid wolf
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Damn, colors threw me off.

sick swallow
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That's Icarius

sick swallow
limpid wolf
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Icarius looks totally badass though.

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In terms of design.

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...And apparently he's a psycho bastard, sorta like Scions Aether's Frostir, but bigger.

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Even going as far as to... do something I will not say here.

west shoal
limpid wolf
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Mhm.

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I'll just put it in spoilers, and call a spade a spade to sum it up. ||The dude's a rapist.||

molten condor
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Damn, there is a lot of lore going on for this. I realised they had a website but I didn't realise that they just had google docs of pages as well

sick swallow
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Yes, there are a good number of side stories, in addition to all the lore, background and world building.

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Until recently, the author has been reformatting the index of said stories, the page linking to them was down for a while

west shoal
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Some of the stories were done by Dragonoficeandfire, and some of the story supporters from the DI discord

molten condor
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Is there anyway of finding all the lore easily in one place? Cause it'd be interesting to read it all but it seems that its spread across many DA uploads and the website

west shoal
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The website

sick swallow
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Several of the stories (including this one above, I believe) either were, or currently are, being rewritten

molten condor
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Oh wait no I am blind. I cant read a url correctly

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I thought it was split across different things like DA but then I just realised the DA link takes you to a part of the website

royal oar
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I can definitely say this series has definitely given me quite a bit of inspiration

molten condor
sick swallow
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Their pages have been down for a while. There was a big shift, here several weeks ago, where all fan characters were migrated off-site to Google docs, since the author doesn’t have time to manage them all. During the process, a handful of official side characters, namely the Tempest Reign royalty, had their pages hidden. Presumably they are being revised and will be back up eventually

molten condor
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Ah ok, thanks for the heads up

sick swallow
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There’s a surprisingly large amount of info and backstory for the whole family. I’m a bit sad they’ve been down for so long; I’m rather interested in one of Auralis’ brothers, I think it was “Australus”, but I have to wait for the pages to come back up so I can read up on him again…

latent snow
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The story hits quite close to home, as I’ve been in a situation like that, and also told it was “my fault” x.x

limpid wolf
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That's absolutely terrible... Listen, if there's any advice I can give you, and everyone else who's gone through trauma comparable to that... I know it's easy for me to say because I haven't been there, but just know that you shouldn't be ashamed for having survived what happened to you.

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It's the person who did that to you that should be feeling shame.

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And the fact that you were told that just... drives home how evil that person really is. Because evil is a real thing.

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My god it's bad enough the attempt that Icarius made, but Auralis being forced by her own father to apologize for turning him down? That's just a fistful of salt on the wound.

west shoal
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Icarious's older brother, Undacus, has to go out his way to control his younger brother's misdeeds every time too

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He's literally his brother's keeper, as the wiki stated

latent snow
limpid wolf
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That's the real sad part, you're dealing with someone who has no empathy, conscience isn't a thing to people like him.

latent snow
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He even said he would take me to court for defamation if I told anyone

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Didn't stop me though, I had evidence, I told the police

limpid wolf
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It's not defamation if he actually did do it and you could prove it.

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He was just trying to scare you into submission, and I'm glad you saw through it.

latent snow
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We better not talk about it too much here, I feel it's a bit mature
My messages are open though, if you want to know more. I find it a bit therapeutic to talk about at times

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And thank you for being supportive slughug

limpid wolf
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Yeah, you're right, was gonna say myself.

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Also, anytime, you have a whole community here for you to reach out to.

west shoal
wide otter
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Wow, so they're not just prejudiced against Dark Dragons

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They're classiest too

sick swallow
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Vitry nooooo 😢

west shoal
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Woooow… so the only reason Vitreus was kept in his flight was so his father would keep tabs on Hayze through his son. And the moment Hayze is no longer there, he sees about transferring Vit to another flight that’s associated with clans suitable to Frossar’s tastes…

sick swallow
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Yeah, that would appear to be the case.

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It makes sense, but that doesn't mean I have to like it 😒

west shoal
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Vitreus literally grew up with his flight too

sick swallow
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Interesting, though, how Frossar blames Lynerius for the Council's decisions

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Like, not even Tordner or the Stormbringers in general

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specifically Lynerius who, by the way, definitely didn't get his own way by the end of things

west shoal
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And he doesn’t even curse Malefor for burning him

sick swallow
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Oh yeah, that's also true

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so far, nobody this chapter has even mentioned Malefor, which I find surprising, all things considered

raven furnace
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Malefor is, at the end of the day, a pawn to pretty much everyone. They all want to use him for their own benefits cause he is "the dragon of legend"

quaint grove
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Every clan can benefit off him or shape him and for now they return to their petty interclan squabbles instead

west shoal
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And worse part is Frossar very likeky won’t even talk to his son much after this. It’s mentioned the only reason he and Vitreus talk to one another is when the subject is about Hayze

sick swallow
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All things considered, that's probably for the best, assuming it gives Vitry space to think for himself and become his own person...

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That said, it's still pretty sad

raven furnace
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Well, if he's going somewhere his prick of a dad picks out he very well could end up just like him

west shoal
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Unless yesterday’s events and meeting really shook him up, which looked like it did

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Rejected by his birth mother since he’s not her real son (Vitreus was the result of a contract union between different clans), attacked by his murderous older brother, used as a tool by his father and grandmother to testify against Hayze and the Stormbringers, and now being forced to transfer to a clan-only flight next year just because Hayze will no longer go there

wide otter
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I hope Isolda does something

surreal sparrow
limpid wolf
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But yeah, I can see this definitely laying the foundation for Vitreus turning on his family.

shadow pine
limpid wolf
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Oh that's kickass.

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Who's that at the top? I know it's not Lynerius.

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What I want to know is what Lyn's brother, Styrmer looked like.

sick swallow
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That is Tordner's younger half-brother, Tormer. He is the general of this regiment

sick swallow
# shadow pine

"Featuring a future planned/likely event - Raii's promotion to Commander."

limpid wolf
sick swallow
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most likely

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It appears, however, that Tordner and Tormer are good friends and trust each other. Official orders from one could just as easily have come from the other, I should think

limpid wolf
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Yeah.

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They're very close knit brothers.

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Looking through the all characters glossary, I noticed the name "Sakurai".

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So it seems we have Japanese influenced cultures in the lore, too.

sick swallow
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That's very likely to be a fan character. I believe that naming rules are a bit more loose for them...

west shoal
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DI website also has a huge list of fan characters from the DI discord too

shadow pine
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So I put the link and then the image.

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Yeah it's really cool.

shadow pine
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Wouldn't it be really funny but also messed up that he secretly loves him? 😄

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PLEASE DON'T MAKE THAT A THING!

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I WAS KIDDING!

sick swallow
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honestly? not really

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it'd just be sad

limpid wolf
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Like father like son.

sick swallow
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please don't make this a thing

limpid wolf
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I'm not being serious either.

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Yeah, definitely don't.

shadow pine
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fanfic writers upon seeing any hint of Frossar x Lyn:

west shoal
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Which is you apparently? XD

shadow pine
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I WAS KIDDING! 😄

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I should just put "/s" next time

sick swallow
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Please don't joke about it. I enjoy this story for what it is, and I'd prefer to avoid all the excessive "shipping" from the fans. I know it happens, but I don't usually want to hear about it. 😅

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Please and thank you 🙂

limpid wolf
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Yeah, it's dumb.

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I can still imagine there's an underlying guilt in Levina and Tordner about Styrmer's death, and that Lynerius and his siblings resent their father for sending him into service when he wasn't cut out for it.

sick swallow
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It’s possible. I can’t comfortably predict how Tordner feels about Styrmer’s death, but it’s fairly well documented that the others aren’t happy about it

limpid wolf
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Lynerius even flinching at his mother nodding to him and his memory.

stark haven
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That image does hint at something. Raii is Lyn's second in command, so if Raii is being promoted to commander and he's still within the same unit since Tormer is the general, either he's being given his own unit or something has happened to Lyn.

limpid wolf
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Mhm, the absence of Lynerius despite Raii's presence could be taken as a bad omen.

shadow pine
west shoal
sick swallow
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Always nice to see how much Master Therris cares for Hayze

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Also encouraging to see the others will miss him too, even as sad as it is

west shoal
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Even Terrin is a little sad by the news, and she’s been scared to connect with Hayze since he scarred Vitreus in self defense

limpid wolf
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That makes it sting how much they actually liked him and he wasn't marginalized, he just felt it because he knew the Frostspeares hated him.

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Look carefully at Vitreus' face.

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It looks like he's not just sad, heartbroken even, it looks like there's even some anger in his eyes, the way his brow is furled.

limpid wolf
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He not only feels guilty for how he treated Hayze when Hayze cared about him, but is heartbroken over losing his lifelong friends including him, overwhelmed by the incident at the council, but also a part of him is angry at his father and council for ripping the people around him away from him, people that didn't treat him like dirt like his family does.

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Also "The elder guardians were so impressed by him, he will now be taught alongside Malefor himself" Now that's some sugarcoating if I ever saw it.

west shoal
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She likely had to twist the truth as a way to not tell what actually happened

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Her eyes and heart know that she was made aware of what happened

limpid wolf
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The truth being too hurtful to stomach for them because they're still young.

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Look how bad it hurt Vitreus.

latent snow
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Terrin has gotten quite the nice tail plume!

sick swallow
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Indeed, she does have quite the floofy tail

quaint grove
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I love this comic so much 😩

limpid wolf
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It's great, it's the cream of the crop with regards to the concept of fanfiction, which is otherwise mostly blah.

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The main character, Hayze, isn't a Gary Stu, he earns what admiration he does get from his peers, he's... never really been interested in romance, he has his skills, but he also has his struggles and is marginalized to an extent because of who and what he is. His personality is believable because he picks it up from his caretaker.

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The worldbuilding is deep and inspired, as it takes cues from ancient civilizations and their practices, plus the whole clan system.

west shoal
limpid wolf
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Looks like he's got a cozy new home, for as much as it's practically a prison for him.

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I guess a gilded cage is still a cage.

west shoal
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And no sign of lashes on him

limpid wolf
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They could've promptly healed him, too.

sick swallow
surreal sparrow
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what a goober leh_

surreal sparrow
shadow pine
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Even though it's not designed for that.

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I do like this though, and out of the sake of nostalgia, I'm looking forward to seeing how the temple is before how it became in TLOS.

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Plus I'm keen to see if there's already a Malefor statue erected yet

west shoal
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This is not the same temple

limpid wolf
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Am I the only one thinking of how easy Hayze could escape through that window?

west shoal
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I see guards standing out on the pillars, so...

shadow pine
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Wait

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It's not?

west shoal
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The Ancestor Temple is a temple in Warfang

limpid wolf
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Hmmm, if he tried to escape it is possible the guards would snatch him up, or kill him if he tried.

shadow pine
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But then where is the ancestor temple we went to in TLOS?

limpid wolf
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If nothing else, by the time he reaches the open field.

shadow pine
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I'm confused.

west shoal
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The Dragon Temple is on another continent in the LOS canon

shadow pine
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oh!

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Well, in any case

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I'm curious what this Ancestor Temple will be like.

west shoal
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I predict the Ancestor Temple is the temple that Malefor will uproot from Warfang and repurpose it as his Lair that we see in DOTD. Since he did attack Warfang as soon as he returned and uprooted parts of the city as a symbol of his dominance

shadow pine
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Ah good point

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And that's what he did.

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Which would be appropriate for where this story is taking place

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which means we are going to see Malefor here.

limpid wolf
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Of course, they mentioned that he'd be locked in the Temple, with his only training buddy being Malefor.

west shoal
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Yeah Malefor resides at the Ancestor Temple, and now Hayze does too

shadow pine
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Oh I forgot

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Well at least Hayze won't be entirely alone.

limpid wolf
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Hayze is basically under house arrest at the clingy kid's home.

shadow pine
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I'm also curious to see Amberius' story in all of this too.

limpid wolf
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A clingy kid who happens to have one of the classiest pads in town.

shadow pine
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The parralels with his relationship to Malefor do bare a striking similarity to Spyro and Ignitus

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from what we've seen so far

limpid wolf
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Although it's not just Amberius, it seems Malefor has multiple mentors.

shadow pine
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Yes and chances are we will see others

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but I have a feeling that Amberius is probably the closest.

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Now obviously Amberius is not Ignitus but the similarities are there.

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And that's definately intentional

west shoal
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I predict he's a distant ancestor

shadow pine
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Oh I'm not just predicting it

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I'm banking on it.

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He looks WAAAAAAAAY close to Ignitus' appearance

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Again though, it's intentional

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And I'm all for it

west shoal
shadow pine
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I do like how straightforward it is. 😄

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I honestly was concerned it would be this intricately detailed map

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But no, it's "Big Shell here, now I split this up into different portions. Notable buildings marked here."

west shoal
limpid wolf
west shoal
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If they're talking about the time skip, it's already proven that what happened with the council meeting was just yesterday. And there's no time skip mentioned on the latest page of Hayze and the Ancestor Temple, like the other when we first see the teenage Hayze

west shoal
stark haven
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I have a feeling they'll forego the lashes.

latent snow
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How many did his father used to give him? Trying to get a perspective on the severity

west shoal
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As a child, Hayze was given a few lashes for using his element. We don’t know how many, but they weren’t severe enough like 20 or 40 lashes

shadow pine
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also, I'm with you guys, they'll build up to it but he won't get any lashes.

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I think there will be an intervention of some sort.

west shoal
raven furnace
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He gonna be tall boi

austere urchin
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obligatory height chart

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shadow pine
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That silhouette looks sick!

surreal sparrow
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smol goober hayze

vapid mountain
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new page is up, but eh forgot how to link

limpid wolf
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I got it.

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Yep.

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Hayze was spared punishment.

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I mean, he's still held in the Ancestor Temple, but it looks like they'll atleast make his involuntary stay pretty chill.

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I can't imagine how giddy Malefor must be to have Hayze as his new in-house neighbor.

raven furnace
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True

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But a prison with a view is still a prison

west shoal
latent snow
limpid wolf
quaint grove
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Yall guessed it lol

limpid wolf
# west shoal Least that ice hag won't know

I have mixed feelings because on one hand I want that cold, decrepit bitch to go pound sand but at the same time we have Griffin voicing her and I thoroughly enjoy her work on her role and want to hear more of it.

sick swallow
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Yeah Griffin does a good job. The whole Frostspear clan, in general, are those kind of characters that you really kinda “love to hate”

shadow pine
sick swallow
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Except maybe Frostir. I’m low key terrified of how he’s probably gonna turn out here in another 10-20 years

raven furnace
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Kid's definitely gonna have an identity crisis on top or having severe attachment issues

sick swallow
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You’re probably thinking about Vitreus. I’m referring to his older brother, that bully Frostir, who has a very high elemental potential, along with a terrifying personality to go with it. 😰

raven furnace
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Ah! Yeah no you right, forget the names sometimes XD

vague forge
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It is fun being a bitch xD

west shoal
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Most of the Frostspear family are biased pricks

sick swallow
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Lol yeah, but I do give our VAs credit for playing the parts so well!

limpid wolf
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We need an emoji of Glyde laughing loudly.

stark haven
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Me and Griffin get to be asses.

shadow pine
hidden depot
shadow pine
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Aww no emote,

west shoal
sick swallow
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oh neat

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I was just reading up on Incendis' and Kindra's pages earlier today. I hadn't realized that most of the info there was new

vague forge
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Kindras colour palette is probably my least favourite. The colours ever so slightly clash and are a bit hard to look at

shadow pine
west shoal
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Old version

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west shoal
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The chain… so familiar!

sick swallow
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oooh, that's interesting

limpid wolf
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"Agreed to have it cast on you?" Hold on, what?

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We didn't see that part, how and where would he even agree to that?

sick swallow
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they'll probably explain that on the next page

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loss of blood, combined with the adrenaline, probably did a number on his memory

west shoal
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Yeah, Hayze mentioned that everything was blurry after the meeting and turmoil last night, he blacked out and doesn't remember if he consented or not to be shackled

limpid wolf
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Then that wasn't consentual at all.

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He wasn't in a sound state of mind.

stark haven
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I think Jordhin was partially corrupted at some point.

west shoal
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Just realized that the magical chain here may have inspired Malefor to create the snake chains that shackled Spyro and Cynder in DOTD

image.png SnakeCollars_SpyroCynder.webp
surreal sparrow
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why does spyro look so goofy in that image

sick swallow
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Because DotD was rushed and the model/ animation wasn’t good

quaint grove
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Also thank you for always (almost always) posting comic link! This is only place I can check every so often to see when it's been updated haha

west shoal
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Your welcome ^^

sick swallow
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(Meanwhile, I keep checking the dA and Comic Fury pages several times a day, and still never see new pages before Moo posts them 😅)

latent snow
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I wonder why he thinks the chain would stop him from climbing a tree
And the thing the older one says as a followup seems quite odd too

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Like they threw it in and wanted to explain it but didn’t know how to bring it up

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I feel like when he just met the guy would’ve been a more natural timing “what’s this around my neck?” Or something :o

sick swallow
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Yes, this scene does seem to be paced a bit strangely, at least as of this page. I suppose it can be difficult, as a writer, to know how/ when to introduce characters or concepts to the story in a way that feels natural and organic…

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Now that you mentioned it, it does feel a little odd to only now mention the restraint, but I wouldn’t have seen it that way myself.

limpid wolf
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Same.

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The fact that we saw nothing of the restraint, and how Jordhin tries to say Hayze allowed it to happen when we have no clue of it whatsoever and he doesn't remember anything about it is extremely dubious and makes me wary of Jordhin.

sick swallow
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ehh, I'm not concerned about Jordhin personally. I'm more willing to believe that it's just Jack having a little trouble pacing the story/ exposition

limpid wolf
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I still appreciate that they make the place comfortable for Hayze.

sick swallow
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agreed

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If nothing else, they've at least been civil toward him

limpid wolf
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And the fact that he's told he can roam free to some extent and climb the branches of the tree, proves that despite being confined to the temple, it's more than a cut above just a prison.

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And he atleast has Malefor as a playmate.

west shoal
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Old version

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limpid wolf
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The dark master himself.

quaint grove
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God it's gonna be wild to see this sweet bean change

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I understand it and get why but like I LOVE HIM SO MUCH

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But won't shock anyone after what he saw and I have a feeling with his fire being red, they're going to treat him different and it's going to show even more to him how much of a pawn he is rather than a person aka dragon

latent snow
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Yeah maybe they’re going to think he isn’t so special anymore, so treat him worse

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Because they might be like “oh he’s just a fire dragon”

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That’s until he unlocks more elements and surprises them again

#

Didn’t Malefor in DotD want to destroy the world? It’ll be interesting how the storyteller makes Malefor out to be that way :o

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Like, his reasoning

limpid wolf
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I definitely think that's where this whole thing is gonna go.

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It's gonna dig into what made Malefor snap, and turn evil.

west shoal
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Let’s not forget that all the things he did throughout the trilogy was out of his own free will. He embraced the Dark Aether element and didn’t let it corrupt him like it did with Spyro

vague forge
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Yeah it sounded like he just wanted more and more power after realising he could do just about anything

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The banishment probably was what pushed him into fighting back

sick swallow
limpid wolf
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Why does Lynerius look chibi, how could you do our guy like that, wess?

sick swallow
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Lol

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It’s just a different style friend, it happens 🙃

limpid wolf
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I'm joking anyway.

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Very fitting meme though.

surreal sparrow
shadow pine
shadow pine
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IceandFire has released character designs for Earth Dragons

latent snow
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Neat designs

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I wonder how high those will sell for lol

west shoal
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branch horns

raven furnace
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Yeesh discord butchered the quality for these :<

quaint grove
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Fr lol

west shoal
limpid wolf
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She has alot more grey this time.

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Still, hey, it's that old, icy bitch.

sick swallow
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Hmm, I always assumed her base colour was white, but after looking back on various pages it seems that she's always been light grey

limpid wolf
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The way Lynerius clapped back at her when she downtalked him was baller.

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"If your heir cannot speak like an adult, then have him be quiet."
"Fuck you."

west shoal
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More funny when she acted like a child herself when Hayze is chosen to be spared and not executed as she wanted

sick swallow
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"bite me"
-something I'd never expected to hear from the matriarch of a leading clan during an important council meeting

raven furnace
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But something you'd hear from a spoiled b*tch who's never been told 'no' in her entire life

sick swallow
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true

raven furnace
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That's the thing about their whole clan, they reek of 'pureblood superiority' type of people that think themselves above the rules

sick swallow
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well, to be fair that's apparently rather common among most, if not all, of the major clans of Warfang.

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It's just that the Frostspears are the most obvious example we have at the moment

west shoal
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And Frostspears have been getting slaps on the wrists for a while

shadow pine
sick swallow
limpid wolf
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And some relief.

surreal sparrow
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Foreshadowing (also the face of deh)

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west shoal
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Jordhin has a chain too

surreal sparrow
latent snow
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Interesting the adult there also has a suppression chain on him :o

sick swallow
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Based on Jordhin's comment about their use on "indentured servants and prisoners", I wonder if he falls under the former category in some capacity 🤔

hot pagoda
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He has a shadowed side...like not the element shadow entirely, but he looks...corrupted somehow, the more I see him. I think he empathizes with Hayze.

shadow pine
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I at first thought it was him showing off a magical illusion of sorts.

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But no, Jordhim does indeed bare a chain as well.

vague forge
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looks 'half corrupted' maybe thats why hes stuck there, past experience with dark magic

shadow pine
vague forge
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Yeah and its really hard to tell. Does give me fire vibes tho

sick swallow
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Yeah, I was thinking that as well; dark dragon ancestry is the only way for a fire dragon to breathe green fire

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Then again, there’s also green electricity, which derives from mixing with earth; earth being my first assumption, now green electricity would be my second

limpid wolf
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Oh wow, how did I not notice that?

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He does have a dark and corrupted half to his body.

latent snow
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Oooh yeah

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I didn’t notice that at first either

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I thought he just had wonky horns obscured by a natural shadow

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Looks like he had it going on even from the first time we saw him

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Maybe the symbol/s on his cloak has a corresponding element symbol?

west shoal
limpid wolf
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Oh look, it's the psycho.

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He definitely looks psycho, too.

west shoal
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His adult form is giving bad warning signs too

limpid wolf
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That's gonna be Frostir's new nickname, psycho.

sick swallow
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IWasRightToBeAfraid

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“They said I could be anything, so I grew up to be a problem”

west shoal
limpid wolf
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God what an evil bastard.

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Even feigning tears and guilt to get out of trouble.

west shoal
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He was sadly doomed from the start

west shoal
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Left unloved during his incubation then his family didn’t attempt to curb his troublesome behavior growing up.

It’s always the animals sociopaths start with before they move on to bigger targets, in this case their fellow dragons…

limpid wolf
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Well considering these are dragons that are effectively people he didn't really start with animals.

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He started with what to him is essentially his "people".

west shoal
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It was mentioned he started killing animals until he got bored and decided to try a fellow dragon

west shoal
limpid wolf
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He's badass looking is what he is.

latent snow
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Oo

shadow pine
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Look at that psycho. Frostir screams unseltting with his design alone. He's a full-blown psychopath and manipulator.

shadow pine
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That explains the blindfold.

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He's a mutherflapping hybrid.

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I am willing to suspect that with this comes the fact that he has 2 elements too.

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Like Hayze though he's had to seal his shadow side or whatever dark element he has.

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Hence the collar.

vague forge
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Seems odd for a hybrid to be so perfectly halved in appearance. But it is a fantasy so im probs just being nitpicky xD

hot pagoda
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Same, but I also also don't begrudge a decision made for dramatic effect as long as it doesn't feel too forced. XD

surreal sparrow
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what da hell

west shoal
sick swallow
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bruh

thick siren
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It is possible that he was the result of a failed experiment regarding infusion of dark powers

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But hey interesting that the author also thought about the idea of a natural hybrid wouldnt be a 50/50 in appearance!

west shoal
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Why willingly turn into a dark dragon indeed? 🤔
Something we might find out later

limpid wolf
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This whole conversation is a convenient exposition so they're probably getting to it.

vague forge
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i knew itttt

stark haven
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Don’t be touching the dark stuff, else your body goes all wonky.

sick swallow
#

Honestly, I appreciate Hayze's reaction in that 3rd panel. To me he seems pretty upset, I'd guess offended, at the thought of a non-dark dragon choosing to become one willingly. After all the pain he's been through, for what he is, he can't imagine someone else wanting that for themself. 😢

vague forge
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combined with the idea of thinking maybe this dragon was a bad character in the past since the idea of becoming one artificially leads to degradation and insanity (at least thats what we are told. Could be a stretch of truth)

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i am very keen to learn more about him

surreal sparrow
sick swallow
surreal sparrow
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This guy gets it

shadow pine
#

See I think it was an experiment the Guardians wanted.

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The Elders I mean.

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They wanted to have a dragon that could master the dark elements on their side.

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To use in the war.

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Having met the Elders, they are all very pragmatic.

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Would have no qualms about using any sort of advantage they could if they can win the war.

west shoal
sick swallow
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Neat

west shoal
thick siren
surreal sparrow
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True

west shoal
#

So because his corruption process was interrupted, Jordhin didn’t get his dark element and lost his original Earth element. He can’t even use magic and fly anymore

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“desperation”? 🤔

surreal sparrow
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Derg that cant fly?

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CoolGlydeHuh bru

stark haven
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Desperation?

thorn dagger
west shoal
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Ooo they added the Corruption magic details on the Destiny Intertwined wiki
https://www.destinyintertwined.com/dragons-magic

Corruption is the process of turning a dragon of natural element into one of the dark elements. This magic can be cast on oneself, or on another. When a Proficient casts the Corruption spell, their magic is depleted entirely. Casting the spell is relatively quick and is finished before the corruption process actually starts. The corruption itself is 'self sufficient' and requires no further magical input, which allows self-corruption.

The actual corruption can take up to one or two excruciating hours, in which the dragon is physically deformed and undergoing rapid, painful growth. There is no control over this transformation, which can cause undesirable results that may cost the dragon their life.

The Corruption magic is strictly forbidden magic, and kept far out of reach from the public. Keeping any instructions on Corruption without permission from the governing body is considered treason and punishable by execution. Planning, attempting, or performing the Corruption is also punishable exclusively with execution.

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shadow pine
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But I'm curious how losing both elements caused Jordhim to lose his ability to fly.

#

I don't know how that works.

thorn dagger
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being stopped mid-transformation torn the membrane so he cannot sustain flight

shadow pine
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Oh.

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I see it now

#

But then that would mean he was already at the meeting at the Temple.

#

He didn't just fly in when Amberius noticed him

#

Interesting.

fast holly
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I saw a lot of comments under the page theorizing that this was connected to Cynder which would make sense to me really

The alternation of the body you cant control- Gaul cast that spell onto her as a lil derg and it caused her to grow unnaturally, wing membranes being chewed some but not enough to where she couldn't fly

Sense Jord's magical transfer was stopped, it likely chewed up their wings and then there was no possible way for the curription to grow the membrane back some or however they'll explain it working in their story

It's really interesting

shadow pine
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Unlike Jordhim, Cynder's corruption was fully completed.

#

She also grew and aged faster than a typical dragon because of it.

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What's also worth noting that even though she was "restored/purified" after being defeated by Spyro's Aether Rage ability, she still remained as a Black Dragon.

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Yes, her sanity and conscious was returned but she still remained the same colour. On top of that, although it's never specified how, she was able to access 4 elements like Spyro as well. I know it was for the sake of allowing her to be on equal footing with Spyro with the Co-Op mechanic in DOTD but still. If only we'd gotten a proper explanation for that.

fast holly
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Yeaaaaah. Though I'd argue her sanity wasn't fully intact- considering every day she had to be reminded of what she had to do as a dark master's puppet, and I'm fairly certain in one of the Eternal Night games. GBA - she mentions a voice calling to her

I'd imagine being corrupted would do nasty things to a dragon even if it's Reversed

Which brings another good topic up actually

Purification and how that works. I wonder if it will be explored at all in this universe

shadow pine
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Yes

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I hope this is explored

fast holly
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Me tooooo very much

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There's a high chance and all sense Malefor seems to be able to switch this on and off in Cynder in LOSDOTD
And it was his power to Gaul to cast the spell

Spyro is the one whom purified Cynder so it's highly purple dragon involved

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For certain circumstances

west shoal
raven furnace
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So in other words, Hayze is pretty much expendable. Useful only for Malefor to awaken more elements then tossed away or worse when that happens

west shoal
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It’s highly possible. Since everyone saw that Malefor’s Fire element awakened at last but in Hayze’s defense

shadow pine
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Yep

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Guardian's are gonna use that as leverage/trigger.

shadow pine
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Oh how about that:

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Cheetahs can be born with magic on the rare occasion.

west shoal
#

But they may be discriminated for it

shadow pine
west shoal
latent snow
#

He is very relatable

limpid wolf
#

He is such a puppy at heart.

raven furnace
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What is it one of you said? Like a golden retriever in dragon form XD

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I'm also digging the look of manic excitement Mally has XD

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raven furnace
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Yup!

shadow pine
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Malefor mood right now

surreal sparrow
#

what a crazy goober little_smoker

raven furnace
surreal sparrow
sick swallow
surreal sparrow
#

epico

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also quick response little_smoker

latent snow
#

That would make a cute emote

sick swallow
winter maple
west shoal
west shoal
sick swallow
#

About time!

hot pagoda
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Man, I love bubbly Malefor. I'm going to hate seeing him go bad.

#

He's genuinely adorable.

thorn dagger
#

I mean, it's not impossible that the comic is painting a somewhat reversed picture where the status quo is the bad thing, and Malefor will lean into shadowy magic to fight the 'good' fight against it

winter maple
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He bleps

surreal sparrow
raven furnace
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He really is like a puppy who just got told he was going on a walk XD

latent snow
#

Plate scar?

shadow pine
#

In tne meantime however....

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HERE'S MOAR PUPPY MALEFOR!!!

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WHOSE A GOOD BOI? WHOSE A GOOD BOI?

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I also love how he's just breathing fire as well in this chapter, just so casual about it.

latent snow
#

I wonder where Haze’s plate-scar is?

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I thought it might’ve been the lil colour change on his neck, but Malefor has that too so I think that’s just the way the dragons are designed

limpid wolf
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His neck.

#

Doesn't look like it's illustrated in the angle of this recent comic.

#

But yeah it would be where that dickhead Frossar tried to slash his throat.

latent snow
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Tried finding it in other shots :o

west shoal
limpid wolf
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I see, it's pretty subtle, definitely not visible from the left hand side.

shadow pine
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On top of that I just remembered that in DOTD, the snake tether that Spyro and Cynder were forced to wear would turn invisible unless prompted.

west shoal
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Yeah, or messed with

shadow pine
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yep

latent snow
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Since Malefor said he wasn’t allowed to keep his scars, it implies they kept Hazes one on purpose :o

west shoal
#

They used the crystals from Hayze's stash when he tried to run. Who knows if they used more or if the healer healed him further

thorn dagger
latent snow
#

I can see that being the case, yeah

west shoal
west shoal
# thorn dagger May be that rather than making him keep the scars on purpose, Hayze isn't as imp...

Turns out damaged scales plates can't be fixed with magic
From the official DI site on Dragon Magic Healing
https://www.destinyintertwined.com/dragons-magic

Healing magic has similar limitations as red gems. After too much time has passed, natural healing processes prevent healing magic from working. Neither red gems nor healing magic can regrow missing limbs, missing organs, or fully repair certain damage (brain damage, damage to eyes, damage to reproductive organs, damage to non-living tissue like horns and plates).

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thorn dagger
#

so I guess Malefor haven't gotten his plates damaged yet

shadow pine
#

I love how goofy he is.

west shoal
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That seems more for #🔷spyro_chat than here, but eh shrugs

#

Still, seeing Malefor so naive and sheltered in the comic will hurt when he turns into the embodiment of evil we know in TLOS 😭

shadow pine
#

I can can't I?....

west shoal
shadow pine
#

Seems like the "procedure" didn't make them a full on sociopath or apathetic where they feel no emotions or drive.

west shoal
#

Ooo!

Before their Corruption, their height was 5.9m (19'4). Their change in size was gradual throughout the corruption—had it succeeded, they would have reached 7.1m (23'4).

shadow pine
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So maybe their height is now stunted

hidden depot
west shoal
vague forge
latent snow
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TIL I’m unhinged

thick siren
sick swallow
west shoal
#

lol poor Jordhin having to walk up those stairs

surreal sparrow
latent snow
#

Malefors face when he’s told they’re not going up the stairs lol

shadow pine
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Also YAY I'M BACK!

azure void
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Just came here to say hi, i didn't even know there is an underground community on our discord lmaooo, 1619 messages? DAMN haha! Have fun guys ❤️

thorn dagger
limpid wolf
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Join us.

sick swallow
limpid wolf
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So we don't leave out the other folks who want to read but don't voice act or haven't gotten to audition for our project.

azure void
hidden depot
#

hehehe

stark haven
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The Cult of Hayze.

shadow pine
#

Alright it's a cult, who am I kidding? 😄

#

But the good kind.

#

Yeah it's been a great run thus far and the fandub we are doing has really taken off.

#

😄

west shoal
quartz magnet
#

That's actually really interesting, just flew over it for now, but i'm defintely going to read the whole things

west shoal
limpid wolf
#

More of Malefor just being a puppy.

shadow pine
#

Amberius is Dad material, just like our favourite Fire Guardian. 🙂

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I think he'd still be happy even if Malefor hadn't learned fire first.

#

Who's the Electricity Guardian's name again?

west shoal
#

Arcadier

shadow pine
#

I do like that she is at least acknowledging Hayze's presence.

#

(I didn't even realise Arcadier was a "she" until we started doing the fandub)

west shoal
#

Yeah her gender was revealed in the wiki ^^

shadow pine
#

It's the scars that threw me off I tell ya 😄

limpid wolf
west shoal
limpid wolf
#

That's what threw me at first, too, when we first saw her in the council scene.

west shoal
#

Ooooh she transitioned in her early 20s

shadow pine
#

Clearly hitting the dragon equivalent of a powerlighting gym. 😄

#

I really like the Guardian designs, Nivalis in particular has an interesting look about him.

#

He's the only without a portrait on the website except for the page itself.

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Also here's what Malefor's Guardians were going to look like based off of old concept art from The Eternal Night:

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I'm glad the author changed the Ice and Earth Guardians.

west shoal
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Arcadier was originally male. This was changed as a result of not wanting all the Elder Guardians to be male, despite the source material depicting all of the Elders to be masculine. Arcadier still retained these features and is a rather masculine female. As a nod to her origin, she is in-universe a trans female.

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Though she magically transitioned in her early 20s, she presented female with feminine pronouns since before her teens. Her current masculine features do not bother her - her gender incongruence was more of an inconvenience, discomfort - a constant itch. At her transition she finally felt right, and she has never once regretted it. In fact, she barely remembers being born male.

Before her ascension to Guardianhood, she was often confused for a male (due to her chin spikes, which are very uncommon on females - not a result of her birth sex, it was simply a trait of her bloodline and are present on her female descendants). The confusion usually lifted when she spoke - she has a deep but distinctly feminine voice.

shadow pine
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That explains why the author changed it.

stark haven
#

I think about a third of the cast is LGBT at this point.

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Rayne - Pan
Hydris - Bi-Curious
Cerau - Gay
Therris - Lesbian
(^Dating Avalis - Pan, Genderqueer)
Quaker and Tecton - Gay
Lynerius - Bi
Tordena - Aroace
Jordhin - Agender
Raii - Gay
Arcadier - Trans

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Nivalis maybe as well.

limpid wolf
#

I thought Therris was married?

shadow pine
#

Cause that's what she is according to her dossier.

sick swallow
#

“Unified”, actually, but yes. It’s equivalent to marriage in our world

shadow pine
sick swallow
#

It’s an easy mistake to make; similar looking words with similar meanings… no worries, friend

west shoal
west shoal
limpid wolf
#

Artstyle shift again.

#

The characters look sick. In the complimentary sense.

#

Vitreus looks very different.

latent snow
#

I wonder why the red guy cares

sick swallow
#

I'm willing to bet that the whole flight cares about Hayze, even though they don't always say so

hot pagoda
#

I think there was always a small amount of dragons friendly with Hayze, they just weren't vocal.

limpid wolf
#

Well Vitreus cared about Hayze too but he was torn between how Hayze treated him, and how his family brainwashed him.

#

He's been suffering from cognitive dissonance from having the truth about his family shown before his eyes.

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While we are relieved to know that Hayze is faring better than expected, Incendis has right to be concerned as he knows somethings up.

shadow pine
west shoal
#

From the image description

Vitreus' horns may look a little different since I have a 3D model reference for them now.

limpid wolf
#

I see, so he has 3D models for his characters as reference.

thorn dagger
#

and environments too I think?

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Feel like he mentioned previously that to keep buildings consistent he has them 3D modeled

limpid wolf
#

Smart.

surreal sparrow
#

This minor change in art style will be the end of Destiny Intertwined cryinggif

limpid wolf
#

Nawww.

shadow pine
surreal sparrow
raven furnace
shadow pine
surreal sparrow
#

Spioker doodles

west shoal
molten condor
#

damn dragons losing eyes is gonna be like starwars and losing hands

limpid wolf
#

I don't think he lost an eye but he got a good whack.

surreal sparrow
sick swallow
#

Similar energy to this classic

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surreal sparrow
#

Indeed

sick swallow
#

Oh heck, my full-size DI reacts are all on my other computer…

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I spent soo much time making custom emojis based on DI, but on another server… This is one of those few times where I miss having nitro, since it’d allow me to use those here lol

hidden depot
surreal sparrow
#

Weh!

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Epico sticker

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I require little_smoker

stark haven
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My Raii.

raven furnace
#

So which one is the red one's sister? Cause he mentioned Frosty and his sister didn't care about hayze

limpid wolf
#

Kindra, the orange one.

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She's indifferent to it because she generally has an apathetic demeanor anyway.

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An indifference that even Incendis is scornful of.

raven furnace
#

Seems like they're polar opposites in personality

shadow pine
#

Vitreous triggered.

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And rightfully so.

nova basalt
#

Ah! My people! I'm actually heavily invested in this story and glad to see others are too :>

shadow pine
west shoal
latent snow
#

The green lady looks very cute there
Love the red feathers

limpid wolf
#

That's Terin.

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So Vitreus actually did get Incendis' eye.

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And he's pissed.

surreal sparrow
#

Hmmmm

shadow pine
#

New hatchlings, who deez? 😄

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I like the dark grey one with four horns next to the blue one.

latent snow
#

They might be fan characters

sick swallow
#

Yes, generally any background character with a set design (more than just a silhouette) comes from the fans

shadow pine
#

ah that would explain it.

west shoal
#

And there’s a whole lot of them listed on the wiki at the moment

nova basalt
#

They’re fan characters! The earth dragon with the four horns and orange markings is Yzkila the Slatescale!

shadow pine
#

.....I'll see myself out.....

latent snow
shadow pine
#

Walks into the thread

raven furnace
#

Shield your eyes

shadow pine
#

MY EYES HAVE BEEN SOILED

limpid wolf
surreal sparrow
limpid wolf
#

If you've read the comic you'd understand the joke.

surreal sparrow
#

I just posted the emoji for the sillies

shadow pine
#

He is literally Tywin Lannister in dragon form.

limpid wolf
#

Not familiar with him since I haven't watched Game of Thrones.

shadow pine
#

Still one of the biggest a-holes in the series.

#

Charles Dance who portrays him does an incredible job.

#

He only cares about his bloodline and securing a future for his House.

limpid wolf
#

Tordner's a pretty cold hard guy, him being a military leader and all, he too has a soft spot though, for his son, like any sensible parent.

shadow pine
#

Yeah Tywin is exactly like that towards his son Jamie Lannister

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but not to his other son Tyrion

#

He'll also achieve victory by any means necessary

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He's all about results above all else.

nova basalt
#

Such a breath of fresh air to see other people who don’t blindly hate ol’ Tord. He’s tough cause he’s gotta be, plus his momma raised him that way. He’s the patriarch of the military clan. He’s flawed but he’s not this sinister, conniving man. And neither is his son, for that matter

sick swallow
#

Agreed. He’s flawed person, but a well-written character.

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And he’s by no means irredeemable either

limpid wolf
#

Yeah, he's complex.

#

He's abrasive, he's harsh, but he does have a heart, his hardness is because of how he was raised; to be a warrior, strong and disciplined, his son as well.

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He's alot like Stoick the Vast from HTTYD, he's an old fashioned tough and rugged leader and warrior, and he has his expectations, but he also has humanity.

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Tordner and him both have their moment where they're infuriated with their sons but even in their anger they show their compassion toward their child and guilt over them being pained.

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Stoick disowning his son only to recoil from the hurt of knowing what he did to his child, Tordner realizing how hard he was on Lynerius even when he was hurting for what was essentially his adoptive child and becoming heartbroken that he added to his son's pain.

nova basalt
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This is the face of a father who realized just how much this world is breaking his son down, and he himself is powerless to stop it. Instead, he is forced to uphold it.

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limpid wolf
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Exactly.

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He's compelled by his code and duties to hurt his son in the name of the order he himself is subject to.

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That's what's to love about Tordner and how he's written, he's emotionally complex alot like a real person.

shadow pine
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Absolutely as far as complex is concerned.

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That's why I look at him similar to Tywin

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He does care about his son but he's also about ensuring his bloodline survives.

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Similar to Isolda (the Ice Elder Guardian) although she's far more ruthless.

limpid wolf
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You sure you have the right character?

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Isolda is the kind and sweet aunt that Vitreus has.

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I think you're talking about Isrun, the Frostspear Matriarch.

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The only soft side Isrun showed was naming Vitreus after her deceased husband because she was sad over his death, even though Isrun walked on him and treated him like dirt.

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She otherwise is cold and distant to her kin, at best such as in Vitreus' case, manipulating them to further her wants, or those of the Frostspear clan as a whole.

shadow pine
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Sorry, they both start with I and S okay? 😛

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Yes Isolda is the good one, nobody hurts her!

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Isrun can burn though.

limpid wolf
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Yeah no, Isrun and Tordner contrast alot, and it shows, Tordner hates that ice-cold cunt for good reason.

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Tordner is a hardass, but he also knows when to be orderly and formal like at the council, but he does care about his family and clan, and their image and prosperity.

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Isrun just oozes with malice and contempt, she's standoffish, ruthless and motivated by keeping her clan's influence and power even if it means using her own family members as tools, to which they are either complicit in it like Frossar and Skadin (Albeit he does so reluctantly, he feels trapped), or don't care. The only exception being Isolda, she's the odd one out of the Frostspears.

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Vitreus was along for the ride, too, but he was only a child and he was brainwashed for a time, but the glaring display of the reality of how his family acts is causing him to also turn against their ways, seeing the compare and contrast of how Isolda treats him compared to how the rest of his clan does.

west shoal
limpid wolf
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Finally.

west shoal
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Vitreus’s element got stronger… 👀

shadow pine
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COME AND GET IT!!!

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Damn Vitry is strong.

west shoal
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One of the nearby students really said "Get him, Frostspear!"
WOW

raven furnace
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Something tells me he ain't going back to that class

west shoal
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He's pretty much burning any bridges he has with his flightmates with the fight he's in right now

raven furnace
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Yup
It's almost like growing up being raised by cold narcissist sociopaths doesn't create a healthy child :3

shadow pine
royal oar
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Seriously loving this comic so far man 💛

shadow pine
ashen horizon
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Yeah loving the story so far, been watching DragonofIceandFire for years and just loving thier new artstyle for this comic.

royal oar
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I've been a huge TLoS fan since 2011

west shoal
surreal sparrow
latent snow
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Chad Quarris

limpid wolf
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Yep.

west shoal
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tis the look of shock and regret

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limpid wolf
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When the cheery, goofy guy is upset with you, you know you've screwed up.

ashen horizon
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Gotta love seeing Quarris breaking up the fight and grounding the two to just talk it out instead of tearing each other apart

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Gives me Terrador vibes

stark haven
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Vit still looks like he's going to snap at someone.

ashen horizon
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To be fair he didnt really do anything but was mostly provoked so I wouldnt be suprised if he tells pinky here to shut it

stark haven
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He still might have maimed Incindy.

ashen horizon
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I think he might have a consequence to face after this, lashing out is never a good look in public and Vits family will not be happy with him

stark haven
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Assault is also a pretty serious crime, even for a clan dragon so long as there are witnesses.

ashen horizon
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Exactly

limpid wolf
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Vitreus was taught to hate Hayze because of what he was, but he's also breaking the brainwashing that his clan imposed on him, and while he was there when Hayze was being implicated for a crime, he was used, and his hand in wanting Hayze punished was negligible.

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But Incendis doesn't know that, as far as he knows he was in on incriminating Hayze, and his first thought was that Vitreus was willing. Thinking that not only did he act on his prejudice, but out of desperation for familial acceptance.

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Vitreus snapped because he knows what was done to Hayze, and he doesn't like it, he's starting to see what his family is really like, and yet Incendis still implicates him as acting in tow with his clan's ways. Vitreus was enraged and indignant about being accused of being no different from the rest of his clan, who he's now growing to resent because they're basically taking all his lifelong friends away from him, the only people that actually treated him halfway right.

ashen horizon
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Sad to see but he did lash out first and his actions will mostly shame his families reputation and hel be punished for even attacking over an insult

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I mean I get why he did but it wasnt justified

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If anything it riled both them up more and now both boys will probably get a talking to but Vit will probably get worse from his Dad

limpid wolf
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I don't know, his father is too biased and vain to actually discipline his son and will probably side with his clan and downplay it no matter what.

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Less about how much he cares for Vitreus and more about his corruption and wanting to keep his clan's image spotless regardless of the glaring flaws in character they have.

ashen horizon
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Well we havent seen much of Vits family except a few of them, his Dad will probably make a fuss of it

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This is the first time Vits lashed out as well so who knows how his family will react to this

shadow pine
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Bless you Quarris!

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You might just be my number 2 favourite hatchling.

west shoal
ashen horizon
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Oooh yeah Vit might be in serious trouble

quartz magnet
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But isn't incendis clanless?

west shoal
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Yea

quartz magnet
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Then if he is, he seems to be what the page describe as "lower class" and in that case, with vity being from a high clan, the frostspears, the case will be likely put on hold indefinitely

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So i dont think vity risk anything

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Well, regarding the law of course

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In regard of his clan however...

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It will mostly be his father who will act, or his grandmother (i think), just to put an "exemple" if i mau say so

ashen horizon
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If anything he might get lashes but wel see

shadow pine
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Nothing more.

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His family is too high up the Warfang hierachy.

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Especially with that bitch of a grandmother of his as the Elder Guardian.

sick swallow
shadow pine
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Oh

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Gotcha

sick swallow
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But yes, your point does still stand. Vitry's family is quite high up, and in fact said grandmother is Chief of the Guard, so there's very little chance of his being punished harshly (unless they really want him to be).

nova basalt
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I’m more worried about Incendy tbh, he’s facing a possible tongue removal, or worse, for badmouthing and fighting a Frostspear

stark haven
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Too many witnesses saw Vitry lash out first. Trying to punish Incindy might result in a backlash that the Frostspears don't need or want.

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Vitry isn't well liked among his own clan anyway. I suspect they'll turn him over to the temple to avoid a public show trial.

nova basalt
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Possibly, but the Frostspears are the guard clan, so it’s very possible that Incendis will be the one punished. In the clan’s eyes, it could be that this lowly clanless was asking for a fight by agitating a Frostspear to the point of retaliation. Clanless have zero to no political power, and a majority of the clans would prefer to stay in good graces with the leading ice clan

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Just gotta keep in mind that clan dragons are way more powerful in this corrupt society, and have been known to smash eggs just because they didn’t like them, which is an illegal activity. Not only that but Incendis’s parents aren’t… particularly fond of him or his sister

limpid wolf
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They make it no secret they detest the Frostspears.

nova basalt
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True, Stormbringers are loud and proud about their hatred for the Frostspears LOL

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But I doubt they’d advocate for Incendy sadly :<

limpid wolf
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It helps they're warriors and soldiers, too, so they also got that, on a physical and personality level over the dragon equivalent to crooked cops.

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That time Lynerius told Isrun "Fuck you" was legendarily savage.

nova basalt
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Aye, I think it was stated somewhere on the wiki once that the average soldier could beat a guard ezpz. Guards don’t get combat a lot so they’re generally weaker/less elementally trained

limpid wolf
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All the more explanation for Frossar being a coward picking on Hayze, who is smaller than him.

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Thinking about the Council scene and them holding back Lynerius when he flips because Frossar is hurting Hayze, as much as it's completely understandable why he does it, it reminds of those videos where in real life in a courtroom, which, the council meeting is a rough equivalent to... They have to keep it orderly and facilitate due process.

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But in these videos there's men who attack the defendant/accused in the courtroom over their crimes, mostly people who try to beat up the man who murdered their loved one.

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And the police have to restrain, even arrest them for it.

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Of course Frossar is an accuser and guard, not a defendant, still, like with the defendants in those videos, no matter how much that person deserves their ass beat they have to keep the courtroom orderly.

nova basalt
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Aye, he was throwing logs into an already raging fire and taunting it

limpid wolf
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But atleast the guardians did order Isrun to beat Frossar's ass for what he did.

west shoal
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And who knows if he was actually punished

limpid wolf
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Knowing the Frostspears and their nepotistic favoritism it's possible Isrun dismissed Arcadier's command.

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Just as the council willingly decided to not give Hayze any lashes.

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I'm pretty sure the rest of the council doesn't like the Frostspears either judging by that.

west shoal
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One of the Council members, Wysta, only agrees with Frostspear in council matters because of her own personal bias against Undacus and Tordner

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It was the Elder Guardians who decided not to punish Hayze since they feel he was punished enough during the trial

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limpid wolf
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Yeah.

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And it's only fair, too, I mean, he was taken away from what was virtually his adoptive father for a somewhat petty reason that was taken more seriously simply because he's a shadow dragon, and he was almost extrajudicially executed/murdered by Frossar.

surreal sparrow
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Its kinda weird how they refer to them as 'Dragon Masters'
Like imagine if we called a group the 'Human Masters'
Just a random thought lul

shadow pine
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Not a new chapter but holy shit check out these auction designs the author just brought out.

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Well 5 days ago that is.

latent snow
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Terrin but pink

austere urchin
limpid wolf
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The plot thickens.

raven furnace
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Dun dun dun

west shoal
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So the flightmates are well aware about Frostspear and what they’re capable of

Good thing Icendy didn’t lose an eye but still…

limpid wolf
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I know there's trouble in for Incendis with the Frostspear's in-group bias.

west shoal
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And Vitreus left after hearing more about his clan, wonder where he went…

shadow pine
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Poor Vitreus

stark haven
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Vit already feels guilty, he won't sell out Incindy.

limpid wolf
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Definitely not.

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He ran away because he feels he has no one left.

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He was used to get Hayze in trouble, the only dragon that actually understood him and showed compassion to him in spite of everything, he realizes his family either uses him as a tool or treats him like dirt with almost no in-between apart from Isolda, and now because of what happened with Hayze, his former classmates who he's being transferred away from, he feels they reject him now for what happened to Hayze, and for starting a fight with Incendis.

west shoal
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As I suspected, he pretty much burned any bridges he had left with his flightmates after that fight and how much Frostspear is feared

nova basalt
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I’m hoping that things can be repaired between the flightmates, but sadly I’m not too sure if it can. Even if Vit breaks his vow of silence, there’s no reason for them to even believe him

coarse coral
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1.8k messages missed

surreal sparrow
sick swallow
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1,899 messages… that means the next one will be a nice round 1,900

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Dang, that’s a lot

west shoal
raven furnace
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He's such a dork >w>

surreal sparrow
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Is it just me or does Malefor look rather off-model here

sick swallow
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which panel?

surreal sparrow
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Several CoolGlydeHuh

sick swallow
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Hmmmm... It seems like his horns don't stick up as much as before, but maybe that's just the perspective

vague forge
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Could be that new 3D model technique

west shoal
stark haven
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He looked better with taller horns.

limpid wolf
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Agreed.

ashen horizon
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Maybe Jack changed it so it makes Malefor look a little more kid like and innocent 🤔
His game form has his horns splitting further out and up and more like a choas star fish

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No wait I think I see what hes trying to replicate

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So in the cutescenes his horns shape a bit more up when he gets older so maybe he wants to show his age and his horns gradually forming up and around like the story cutescenes used in Eternal Night

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Similar to this I believe 🤔

west shoal
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Hmm they were curved a little upwards on his Well of Souls statue too

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ashen horizon
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Oh it has a scar on the left eye! I never noticed that

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By far the better statue in Eternal night than in the dragons temple 👌

hot pagoda
west shoal
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Originally Jared Pullen and the Krome team tossed around the idea that dragon eggs take decades to hatch, so that Spyro being Ignitus' son would be plausible, but it was scrapped and never fleshed out in the end

A: Fun fact about dragon eggs in the Spyro universe - they can take decades to hatch 😉 Longer even... if the time isn't right, they'll incubate safely until a timely opportunity presents itself 😉 The rationale behind Malefor potentially being Spyro's father was plausible, but only if Spyro's egg lay dormant a good while. We reasoned that perhaps Spyro's egg was laid a very long time ago, while Malefor was still free and kicking around. Then it lay still through the time of turmoil and upheaval, and right through the dragon purges until Ignitus released it down river in ANB. It was 'waiting for destiny' to find the time of hatching. Of course this was never fleshed out, and most on the team preferred Ignitus as Spyro's father.

ashen horizon
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For some reason this reminds me of Dragon Hearts lore or Eragons

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Eggs won't hatch until the right time

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shadow pine
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I literally thought he was smoking a cigar:

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..........So that's exactly what I did.

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It's perfect!

surreal sparrow
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Little smoker

shadow pine
brisk patio
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Dadada it's the mother fuckin D O double G, Snoop Dogg!

thorn dagger
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Snoop Dergg*

shadow pine
limpid wolf
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The dude is chuffin' back a fat dart.

west shoal
limpid wolf
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Derg with glasses

surreal sparrow
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Derd

shadow pine
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Oh cool another bastard to despise.

ashen horizon
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Nice to see a dragon in actual shades like the moles

shadow pine
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A lil more on the steampunk side.

ashen horizon
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Omg that snout

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🤣

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But yeah it be cool to see a dragon in those goggles

shadow pine
ashen horizon
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Yeah true

west shoal
sick swallow
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Oh c'mon! I just checked his dA page 5 minutes ago!

surreal sparrow
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2nd is the best CoolGlydeHuh

limpid wolf
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Jack's just dishin' em out.

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Therris holding Hayze, precious.

shadow pine
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I guess this is a close to a Water "Guardian" as we are going to get considering Water dragons don't have one officially.

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Also Therris cradling Hayze = Based.

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Adorably based.

west shoal
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By the time TLOS started, only four Guardians remained while the others were killed during the war

vague forge
west shoal
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From Jared Pullen's art blog, one sec

vague forge
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Ahh

west shoal
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The story went thusly, that back during the 'Ape Wars' Ignitus was a General who led a company of War Dragons into battle against the forces of the Dark Master. After a fierce struggle in which many Guardians were lost, Ignitus' forces were driven back until only the four Guardians remained.
http://soulfulsavage.blogspot.com/2011/03/dragons-vault-opened-once-more.html

The Dragon's Vault Opened Once More...

The Greater Guardian... Once again I left the great stone door of the 'Vault' ajar... and once more the creations from Spyro i...

vague forge
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Gosh i wish they had more time

sick swallow
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same honestly

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there's soo much lore and worldbuilding that got left out of the final games. It's really a shame

vague forge
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Even gameplay. Damn you activision

sick swallow
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oh yeah, the gameplay is by no means perfect

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(I'd argue it's actually quite boring and repetitive, but I've never been that big on beat 'em ups anyway)

vague forge
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Its wild that the art direction and music are able to carry the first 2 haha. As a kid i loved beat em ups. Kind of still do, but they certainly can be made better than tlos

sick swallow
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agreed

stark haven
west shoal
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The primal and derivative element lore is from DI

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I was mainly talking about the LOS canon

hot pagoda
# vague forge Gosh i wish they had more time

Executives: "This franchise is popular. I want you to make a new entry."
"Okay."
"But you only have a year."
"We need at least two, preferably three."
"No, you can do it on one."
Game flops.
Executives: "The franchise is bad, it's your fault, and we're retiring it."

In essence the main vicious cycle that made me lose faith in most AAA gaming. sadCat

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Executives only green light "safe" projects guaranteed to make money when most of the failed franchise sequels and experiments only failed because they were choking and stunting the growth from day one in the first place.

shadow pine
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Like I know Jared did say there was a Wind Guardian and supposedly Guardians of the same elements Cynder used.

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But still, that's really interesting.

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It also stands to reason that there were other Guardians of the same elements as the Guardians we know.

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i.e. Fire Guardians, Earth Guardians etc.

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This would make sense as no doubt dragons were very much thriving as a species until the Ape War

ashen horizon
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Make sense since the Chronicler said Malefor also learnt wind

west shoal
sick swallow
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Yes, I saw that one

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Low-key concerned about him showing up again and being a problem

limpid wolf
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He definitely looks evil.

ashen horizon
west shoal
sick swallow
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...welll fun

west shoal
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I'm guessing this is Jack's take on the Chronicler-like dragon we see in that flashback in the game

sick swallow
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perhaps...

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On further inspection, she does not resemble him quite enough to convince me 🤔

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But I do certainly see the similarity

west shoal
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May be related to the Chronicler, or a descendant

sick swallow
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I'm now wondering if Master Eurune has a (twin?) brother

surreal sparrow
limpid wolf
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Hayze is ready to simp.

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Real talk though, Jack is spoiling us with the pages he's churning out.

latent snow
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I like the clothing he comes up with