dedicated-servers

[mental locust]

@strange geyser I did

[strange geyser]

Did you have to change anything @mental locust ?

[mental locust]

Nope

[strange geyser]

I did the update to the experimental branch and just cannot connect with my client at all

linux dedicated server

[quick mist]

my server is crashing as soon as a client tries to connect. I've shelved it pending another patch for now

[loud minnow]

i was able to get people to connect not problem but i they cant harvest any biomass and tried everything from importing a save from live but with no luck

[quick mist]

that's not a problem just for servers. Did a peer-to-peer hosted multiplayer sessions and a few hundred meters from spawn no one could pick plants or interact with anything

[loud minnow]

yeah i saw that people have that issue and people say that the Hotfix broke it

[quick mist]

people were reporting it before the hotfix too so I doubt it

[loud minnow]

because it was working fine but broke after the hotfix

[quick mist]

I think there are some fundamental showstoppers and I would be unsurprised by more patches this week

[loud minnow]

ohh well i guess they'll release another hotfix but as right now seem dedicated and peer to peer if fully broken unplayable pretty much at this point

[quick mist]

unfortunately it seems that way for many, though not everyone

some folks are luckier than we it seems

[mental locust]

@quick mist working perfectly here

[quick mist]

case in point

glad it's working well for you (:

[mental locust]

On a pterodactyl

[loud minnow]

GOT IT WORK lol

[quick mist]

yay!

[loud minnow]

bring and old save from a while back which was a clean game we just never played i loaded that save and made it worked but we'll see

[left blade]

I was having the same problem

how much ram does your server have?

nvm wrong person

[left blade]

I was having the same problem

[loud minnow]

ohhh lol

[left blade]

me and another guy thought it might be a ram issue since ive heard this update uses more ram

[mental locust]

@quick mist 5 users on no issues reported

[left blade]

jesus christ

[mental locust]

You need to restart after someone joins

So they can pick stuff up

[loud minnow]

the game seems like working now people can connect and they can pick up items now

[mental locust]

If not they won't be able to

[left blade]

for me it just crashes everytime I try and join

[mental locust]

@left blade really?

[left blade]

yup

[mental locust]

No mods enabled?

@left blade try connecting to mine

[left blade]

here is the log i posed earlier

[mental locust]

See if it crashed

[left blade]

nope never messed with mods

[loud minnow]

like this

i got a bunch of this warning when i brought the old save to the experimental branch.... but when i did a new save i didnt get this error

but people still are able to connect

and they can pick up biomass

the game uses 8GB of ram that is your issue this is when is fully running ram usage

[left blade]

is that server or you pc?

[loud minnow]

my server pc

[left blade]

so 8gb is the server usage?

[loud minnow]

just for you to host the server you need to have more than 8GB of ram Free for the sever to fully start

[left blade]

alright

server ran fine before but ig that the ram hike from update pushed it over the edge

[loud minnow]

yeah i think before it was below 5gb or something like that

[crude ocean]

Anybody found a way around not being able to pick up or harvest leaves and trees?

[loud minnow]

yeah i loaded an old save which was clean from a while back and it worked on a clean sever file install

well that work for me and other people have been saying that it worked for them too

so i say get and old save that you have were you started but never played and try loading that to the experimental branch and see if it worked

confirm that other players can join and harvest things

[crude ocean]

Dont think i have any old saves tbh.

[nimble sapphire]

how do you check tick rate?

[crude ocean]

might be best to just go to bed and hope they can fix it 😄

[nimble sapphire]

Indeed, this should be highlighted. My server would eat up all the memory and crash, had to clear up some so it would start. Now it consistently uses over 8.4GB on a fresh server....seems excessive

[left blade]

I smell a memory leak or perhaps some ARK tier unoptimzation

[loud minnow]

what some people say that worked for them was to delete the server download stable branch start a new save then delete server files and appdata files again and download experimental load up the save from stable and see if that helps

sort of the same thing i did but the only differance is that i had a even older save which was clean and i just loaded that up in the experimental and it worked

[loud minnow]

yeah with people playing is well over 8GB so it seems 7.5 on idle and over 8 when people are playing

[wind dove]

We've noticed a bug we think is related to the update 6 on a dedicated server. When you destroy a building and it leaves a loot crate, as soon as you pull the items out of the loot crate it takes about 5 - 10 minutes to be able to interact with any other container or machine

[mental locust]

7 people on no issues

Had a time out issue increased it to 100

Fixed it

[lone gust]

Dedícated servers are still on update 5 right?

There’s no update yet

[loud minnow]

no im update 6

[mental locust]

No

[wind dove]

experimental branch is on 6

[mental locust]

Mine is on 6

[lone gust]

Exp is on 6

Thx

[civic lantern]

I would bet cash money they ship the can't interact with foliage fix tomorrow. The stream today had an esoteric detail from two devs, the bit where they said nobody would notice a difference. From what they said I suspect this covers the "foliage" issue and the mobs respawning issue.

[mental locust]

@civic lantern it seems to happen only when you join

After server restart it works

When new people join.

[civic lantern]

For me foliage was sometimes fine if I stayed in my spawn chunk, a few hundred m square. I also couldn't start a new server game and connect to it, I had to cycle the client first. So much broken

[mental locust]

Well working fine for me

[civic lantern]

What a stupid bug

[mental locust]

People are all across the map no issues

So mabe I was lucky

[loud minnow]

no i was able to get it to work also from not being able to work

you just need to try different things until it works

[mental locust]

Mine worked right away

[rare plover]

I was able to get mine working by reloading my save a couple times

effectively restarting the dedicated server

took me 3x on 2 servers

[civic lantern]

Well, no, i don't, I can do other things until a fix is shipped.

[loud minnow]

same got it work after i brought an old clean save to the experimental 6 branch and that fix the issue for me

[rare plover]

I started a new save and had issues until I reloaded it 3x, same symptom on an established save... Just sharing my personal experience for information collection

oof yeah if I wander around it is still buggy 😦

reloading the save file from the server management panel fixes it

[alpine relic]

I wonder if the doubled RAM usage is related to the foliage bug.

[keen vortex]

are you loading a save from a prior game version, or is this on a new world?

[alpine relic]

new world.

[keen vortex]

hm interesting

[rare plover]

reloading the latest autosave file on my new world

seems to fix the foliage thing for the area I'm standing in

[alpine relic]

I solved the RAM usage problem by doubling my server's RAM too. lol

[keen vortex]

i think the foliage thing is probably an uninitialized variable bug

[rare plover]

I give my server like 100gb of ram

[keen vortex]

precisely because it only affectgs some people, affects people differently, and changes when you reload but only sometimes

[alpine relic]

is there any workaround?

[keen vortex]

that sort of stochastism is indicative of an uninitialized variable

[rare plover]

I can alter my memory allocation if anyone has any theories I can help test

[keen vortex]

thing is, UE5 is C++, and C++ isn't supposed to have uninitialized variables, it's supposed to be impossible to allocate memory without initializing it

although there are obviously ways around that

[alpine relic]

isn't it UE4

[keen vortex]

could be a buffer overrun or other fencepost error, i suppose

i thought they moved to UE5 but maybe i'm misremembering

still, UE4 is also C++

[alpine relic]

tho UE didn't change scripting language they're using.

[keen vortex]

C++ isn't "scripting" either, it's compiled to native machine code

[loud minnow]

i just tried on mine and it works fine i can pick up plants and i went far from spawn area

[alpine relic]

I mean aren't they using scripts for this?

[keen vortex]

yeah, it seems random who it affects and how

[loud minnow]

for me was to bring and old clean save and it fix the biomass issue

[keen vortex]

the fact that loading an old save seemsto help also makes me think "something wasn't initialized properly"

i mean, i've only been doing systems debugging work since the mid-1980s, so i have no meaningful intuitions here

[rare plover]

Yeah this last reload seems to have fully fixed mine too. Curiouser and curioser...

[loud minnow]

nicee

so when i loaded and old save i got a lot of this warnings

but when i started a new save i never got any of this warning

[keen vortex]

i got those warnings on a new game

and i could only harvest plants in part of the world in that save

[loud minnow]

but people can join and biomass issue is fixed

[alpine relic]

weird

[loud minnow]

when i mean new save i mean deleting the server files and going into the APPDATA folder and deleting the folder there also i didn't see these warnings

[keen vortex]

i don't want to get too deep into debugging this, i have my own bugs to fix

[alpine relic]

So I need a new save from old version to work?

[loud minnow]

what seems a little weird to me is that when i started the server and it was idle usage was around 7.5GB but when i join usage dropped to less than 1GB on the new save and now is just at less than 1GB idk but is working for me lol

[alpine relic]

Mine was like 850MB.

[loud minnow]

intersting now that the ram usage is over 7GB is not working anymore after a server restart

[alpine relic]

But since my old server has only 8G RAM, it would stuck at loading save.

[loud minnow]

so got it working again all i did was load the same save from the backup save this time and is working again ram usage is still over 7GB

ok i got it i can repeat the bug over and over and fix it every time

[mental locust]

Ya ram hovers around 8-8.15

So 9 should be minimum needed

[loud minnow]

ok this is what i do i fully shutdown the server, then start it back up, i join the server CANT pick up anything... i go back to the menu reload the latest autosave and it will unload the ram and reload the ram again and now when i join the server again is FIXED...

[mental locust]

Ya I kinda figured

[loud minnow]

i can repeat that over and over again and it will fix it every time

[mental locust]

Yep

[loud minnow]

so it will keep working as long as you dont restart the server as soon as you restart the server it breaks it

[mental locust]

Well mine is fixed

Even after restart

[loud minnow]

and you have to reload the latest autosave to fix it again

but if you shutdown the server like fully shut it down and start it back up is it still working??

[mental locust]

I dont

I did

Well technically a virtual server on my dedicated server

[loud minnow]

ahhhh i see

[loud minnow]

yeah makes sense but all i know is that i can fix my issue repeatedly until they fix it lol

[mental locust]

Want to join?

[loud minnow]

thanks for the offer playing with some friends right now

[mental locust]

🙂

[loud minnow]

now that i got it working can finally play lol they been waiting for me to fix it hahaha

[mental locust]

Oh I bet lol if you ever need space let me know:)

[alpine relic]

If this doubled RAM usage was only a bug, I wonder if it's feasible to run the server with a zram swap.

[loud minnow]

im guessing all the people having connection issues is people with less than 8GB of ram on their server

[mental locust]

Bingo @loud minnow

[alpine relic]

yep

[loud minnow]

yeah i seems like it loading something into the ram twice causing it to be more than 4GB pretty much double and if you dont have enough it will crash

[mental locust]

Yep

[alpine relic]

And as for now it works (with zram swap)

So I guess it's only a bug (8g ram usage)

[loud minnow]

and for the biosmass is pretty much a correlation to this and when you reload the save it will unload the ram and reload it fixing it somehow lol

[mental locust]

🙂

[left blade]

I was having the same issue

what is a zram swap

[loud minnow]

i guess that what being a server admin is about finding the problem and find a workaround to get it working for the peeps lol

[alpine relic]

how much ram does your server have.

[left blade]

4gb

[alpine relic]

k

linux or windows?

[left blade]

windows

[alpine relic]

It's virtual memory on windows.

[left blade]

i have no idea how to do that

[loud minnow]

i was going to say page file will help with that

not the best solution but should work as long as you have the page file on the fastest drive you have....

[mental locust]

What kinda server do you have?@loud minnow

Remember vram is alot slower then ram...

[loud minnow]

She is built from left over part after I upgrade my main rig… lol is a 3950x, x570 master, 64GB dominator plat 3466 kit, and a couple of gpu for ETH mining lol

[mental locust]

Not bad

[loud minnow]

Main rig 5950x 128gb trident z neo 3600 cl16 kit, x570 prestige, 3090 ftw 3 ultra and with some m.2 etc

[mental locust]

Wow Mr money 💰

[loud minnow]

Lol well more like an addiction to buying pc parts lol

Pretty much made a whole server with left over parts from just constantly upgrading

[mental locust]

Network speeds?

[loud minnow]

i have a 1Gbps connection form my ISP but thats the best i can get for my area lol

[mental locust]

You can outmatche anyone here

Even this

Dedicated Root Server EX100
Intel® Core™ i9-12900K 16-Core Alder Lake
128 GB DDR4 RAM
2 x 1.92 TB NVMe SSD Datacenter Edition (Software-RAID 1)
1 Gbit/s bandwidth

[loud minnow]

this is the server pc network card

[mental locust]

Oh ewwwwww

[loud minnow]

yeah on the server is just left over parts lol

but is still WAY over kill for this game

[mental locust]

What's the best dedicated server game manager for this game?

[loud minnow]

my main rig is the big boy lol

i dont really use one for this game

for other game i do

[mental locust]

I host 4 instances

[loud minnow]

nicee

for this game i only host 1 or two but i also have a full cluster of 4 instances of ark going and a 7 days to die server but even then i still have a lot of head room with 64gb

[mental locust]

How many users can technically join a satisfactory server

[loud minnow]

idk but pretty sure after like 10+ you might see some issues lol

[mental locust]

We should try it

[loud minnow]

that would be fun to see lol haha

[mental locust]

If you have to revert to vram then it's time yo get a new server lol

[grizzled imp]

hopped onto experimental and missing icons still don't want to appear

pain

[gentle spire]

whats a good amount of ram for a server to run?

[loud minnow]

well depends on the game but like in general if your making a server pc which is pure purpose is for dedicated servers then you want to have the most ram you can put on your machine..... because for any game server is mostly about RAM usage then CPU speed or SSD speed....

[grizzled imp]

u6 experimental seems like leaking on my dedicated thou

[gentle spire]

looking to rent from a provider, just want a general idea for which plans i should go for

2-3 players, casual save

[loud minnow]

SSD speed only helps in loading assets into the ram but once they are in the ram SSD are just idle

[grizzled imp]

8gb is more than enough at most cases

[gentle spire]

would 6 work?

[loud minnow]

then yeah 8-16Gb is more than enough

[grizzled imp]

my latest beta sits on 6gb with 0~2 players

[loud minnow]

well for Experimental i say you need at least 8GB for stable i say 6GB

just to be on the safe side for the experimental branch

[grizzled imp]

oh I see

[loud minnow]

as of right now it seems if you dont have 8GB of ram your server wont start it will crash on start up for some people

on the experimental branch

[grizzled imp]

yea, mine can start, but suddenly peaks to 9gb around 10mins later and it just restarts

[gentle spire]

wow, server sites seem to have gone up in price

[loud minnow]

yeah thats is why i just have my own lol and it pays for itself by mining eth LOL

[gentle spire]

ehh, dont have the capital to dump into a server machine atm

[grizzled imp]

the only thing I can say is if ever you prefer talking to a fast CS,

nitrado isn't the thing for you, based from personal experience

[gentle spire]

shockbytes the one ive gone for alot, their CS is good, and their servers are good

they also seem to be the cheapest for satisfatory servers

[grizzled imp]

on hosthavoc right now, pretty satisfied

[loud minnow]

why not as people here to host for you guys

like i woulnt mine personally but that just me lol

[grizzled imp]

well, there's a big difference with playing with a small circle of friends on their pace compared to joining someone's server

[gentle spire]

^

also their is a security issue i feel

[loud minnow]

well what i meant was to host an instance you just have your own save you play at your own pace well if anyone if up for it let me know im down hosting servers is something i enjoy lol is fun

[loud minnow]

yeah i see your point but if your tech savy you can protect from them as a server admin

[gentle spire]

i mean protection from the server admin

server sites have an agreement with a customer what they can and cannot do with your connection data, that does not exist with just a person hosting your site

server* sorry

[loud minnow]

yeah i get your point... if your worry about security then yeah by all mean.. but if you just want to play with some friends to try something out and someone is nice enough to do it and help out there nothing bad about that... is just an idea thats all lol...

[gentle spire]

no i dont fault you, and i dont doubt that your good-intentions, just personal preference, thats all. anyway i gotta sleep, cheers

[loud minnow]

cheer have a good one man

[urban kettle]

how do i download save file from server and upload it to singleplayer

[formal pine]

With FileZilla, Cyberduck or ProVide to access the server externally

[urban kettle]

i use steam cmd to host it

[formal pine]

Oh, I don't know anything about that, sry

[cosmic arch]

Or you get a devent vps and host it with lgsm

[crude ocean]

Ahh damn. Was hoping the leave/wood issue was solved when i woke up 😦

[long junco]

well, I didn't have the issue when i went to bed, wake up and I end up getting it 😦

everything respawned also

including monsters

[crude ocean]

Yeah im getting that too. Also, boxes never go away.

[long junco]

and that 😄

[crude ocean]

and if i actually click on one of them i can no longer interact with anything 😄

[long junco]

I had that once, but it resolved itself after a min

[crude ocean]

For me the worst issue is the leave/wood one. Basicly cant get past this stage atm

[long junco]

luckily got coal upgrade before that affected me

not built yet, but at least it's working and got a good stockpile of solid biofuel

[crude ocean]

No such luck here.

Hit us right when we were starting up.

[long junco]

you can take your save to run locally

rather than dedicated

that seems to work according to questions.satisfactory

[crude ocean]

Might be worth a shot

[long junco]

just go wild and get a tonne, then work with it

hopefully gets you to coal

[blazing halo]

To all the people hoping there will be a quick fix for the grass thing: I wouldn't hold my breath. ;P Give it a few days. These things take time, and this is experimental so there's no pressure to get it working immediately.

In other words: if this is game-breaking for you, go back to stable/u5 for now, or run locally to make biofuel that'll last/tide you over.

[long junco]

yeah, people are trying the u6 for a reason 😄

[blazing halo]

Yes, I know - but running an experimental branch, bumping into a big bug, and then hoping it gets fixed "within a few hours" is IMO unreasonable expectations. :D

[long junco]

there's hoping and there's expectations

dont think anyone expects it to be fixed, they hope it does

[blazing halo]

Even if it is game-breaking and really needs to be fixed if people are going to test the damn thing at any length. :D

[blazing halo]

Yeah, I suppose.

Still, it looks like the devs really tackled the whole can't-harvest + vehicle-afterimages thing? Because it looks like the whole system got a rework, top to bottom.

[cosmic arch]

We got the floating Cup Bug. That is hillarious on a server. One guy sees it the other dosnt :D

[rare bridge]

And has the cause of the invincible plants been discovered?

[desert verge]

It's solved for me, I just restarted the server like 3 times, but closing gracefully, not just killing the process. Before I could only harvest small, single leaf plants (those in caves/near), now I can harvest every plant, except those smallest bushes.

[crude ocean]

I ended up just moving the save to my computer.

[desert verge]

E:\SteamCMD\steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir E:\SatisfactoryDSExperimental\ +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate +quit
start "" FactoryServer.exe -log -nosteam

my startup script also validates the server files just in case

the command on wiki is also wrong, because Valve says you need to +force_install_dir before login, but I don't know if it messes up anything

[desert verge]

Well, it's a wiki, so I fixed it.

[gusty void]

Good morning all!

So I'm working on updating the config files on my server. Trying to find the files per https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers/Configuration_files

However... I can't find the Config\WindowsServer\ folders under the gamedir (where the server is running from, or in the saved games folders.

Using Windows btw.

Did they move the config files? I even searched the whole drive for 'serversettings.ini' with no luck.

[desert verge]

\FactoryGame\Saved\Config\WindowsServer

Did you run the server at least once?

[gusty void]

Yes, I'm currently running the server

and I saw the path on the wiki. That's what i'm trying to confirm is still valid

[desert verge]

It's there for me

[gusty void]

Where are you getting your server from? (Steam, Steamcmd, Epic, white van)?

I do see this file, but it's encrypted:

[desert verge]

SteamCMD

and you?

[gusty void]

Epic (SteamCMD still hasn't been able to pull the current build).

[desert verge]

ok, let me open that

[gusty void]

You can see in that first screenshot that there isn't even a 'WindowsServer' folder under the config folder.

[desert verge]

On my epic installation it looks like this:

maybe try verifying the files

[gusty void]

I'm not seeing the ... menu where I can verify the files:

[desert verge]

stop the server first

[gusty void]

okay. i'll have to wait until players have logged off.

Thanks @desert verge for the input.

[desert verge]

I see you have a separate user Satisfactory, does this user have write access to SatisfactoryDS folder?

[gusty void]

Yeah, I created a dedicated account to autologon and run the system with. It has full admin rights on the box, so it should have full access (confirming).

yup, it does. full rights on the folder and subfolders.

[desert verge]

Do you know how to use Process Explorer?

[gusty void]

I do

What are you suggesting?

[desert verge]

filter for Image Path contains FactoryServer and Event Class is File System

sorry I meant Process Monitor

Same Sysinternals Suite

[gusty void]

lol, i was wondering about that.. Here's the process from explorer:

[desert verge]

image path contains UE4Server *

[gusty void]

hang on. i'm pulling down the whole sysinternals download

nada... these are the only two files referenced:

[desert verge]

winget install sysinternals

the fastest way

[gusty void]

yeah.. i manually got it

let me try that query you just posted

[tulip coral]

small question, is there any modding for dedicated servers yet? I don´t read the updates and co, so sorry, if it was already declared at some point

[gusty void]

@desert verge this comes up with no results:

[desert verge]

wait two minutes

[gusty void]

@tulip coral Negative. No mods for DS yet

[tulip coral]

ok, thanks

[desert verge]

server checks the settings like every 80 seconds

[gusty void]

Still nothing. I got the player to log out, so I'm just going to reboot it and see if it behaves.

[desert verge]

sure, don't close the process monitor

[gusty void]

Epic validated files; still no 'WindowsServer' folder under config.

Doing one more validation and then rebooting the server itself (gonna add some more memory/cpu to it)

[desert verge]

did the server start and no events showed in Process Monitor?

no need to validate again

[gusty void]

I was restarting the OS. It's coming back up now. Will start procmon and then start the DS

interesting... here's what i see on startup (a whole page of this)

Still getting the same thing when I run 'factoryserver' as admin

[gusty void]

Created a new bug report for the issue: https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/62a9dbd3ca608e0803513d6e

[loud minnow]

for anyone having the biomass issue you just have to reload the latest auto back up save in the in-game server manager and it should fix it temporary until they release a hotfix for it

[fickle marsh]

@desert verge Hi, I saw earlier you were working with @gusty void to get to the server setting config.

I'm running the epic server manager and found my server settings folder. Trying to follow allong with the wiki to be able to play my Early Access Dedicated Server (right now the server updated to the experimental branch). I'm not sure where to put the command to force it back to my EA branch.

oh shit I just found a link to the config part of the wiki with more info. Hold on

[gusty void]

You would have to specify that it download the experimental branch. Here is the command I use to download/update it: steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisServerExp\ +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate +quit

[fickle marsh]

I can't get my steamcmnd to work so I use the epic fersion 😦

[gusty void]

Just curious, what issues are you seeing with SteamCMD?

[fickle marsh]

it's been so long since I've tried it and I've been easily running the epic one haha

is there an equivalent to the +app_update 1690800 for the serversettings.ini

[gusty void]

I don't think so, that's part of the SteamCMD command to update the app (DS).

I'm opening up my Epic launcher to see what I set for Experimental branch

[civic lantern]

Friend asked, is it possible to interoperate a steam server on linuxgsm with an epic client?

[quick mist]

yes, the server doesn't care what store the client was purchased from

[loud minnow]

^

[fickle marsh]

Dang I may have to work on getting the steam server running then. Ugh, may have to wait til end of work lol

[quick mist]

The good news is that installing/updating the Steam server (once the commandline Steam client is installed) is a single, easily scriptable command; details are in the Wiki

[gusty void]

@quick mist is right... provided that Steam has updated their repository that you point to 😐

[quick mist]

It's been a day, the CDN should be caught up by now

but then

(anyone else find it amusing that the Steam logo is just a piston which has no inherent actual connection to or implication of steam?)

[gusty void]

Yeah, CDN took 3 hours to have the initial U6 release and then the patch they pushed out didn't show up until 10 hours later. For me at least. I know there are others who didn't experience such delays.

[quick mist]

The CDN was pretty taxed yesterday as it was also the start of a new Next Fest; hopefully the update(s) I imagine CSS will publish this week will get out in a more timely fashion

[fickle marsh]

ok screw steam command for not having copy paste available / or history in commands

you cant even arrow through a command wow

[quick mist]

I usually just interact with it by way of shell scripts. Partially for that reason.

[fickle marsh]

i love me a command line tho

[loud minnow]

yeah but most people just make a .bat file in windows with the script you click it once and your done

[quick mist]

yeah but they'd have to compile in readline on Linux and whatever Windows' version of that library is, and that means one more difference between the codebases

you can however "fake" it by taking advantage of your shell's line-editing and command history

printf 'force_install_dir /path/to/game +login anonymous +app_update 12345 -beta someversion validate +quit' | steamcmd

[fickle marsh]

Error failed to install app 188609 (that's my version of game)

[quick mist]

188609 is not the app ID of the dedicated server

[fickle marsh]

ohhh i thought that was game version not app id

[quick mist]

nope, the App ID never changes; it's how Steam identifies the application

[civic lantern]

you don't specify a game version

[fickle marsh]

yea I confused app_id with the app version

[quick mist]

easily remedied. the app ID you want is 1690800

[fickle marsh]

sigh

i know that

I wish I was good at writing wikis cuz this one needs some love lol

[quick mist]

I (and others) did the best we could (:

[fickle marsh]

It's good! just a lil confusing with wrapping all the steamcmd epic and the other way

[quick mist]

if there is a particular section that's not clear, what is it? I can take a look and see what I can do

[fickle marsh]

Maybe remove the -quit from the initial command so if you have an error you can catch it

[quick mist]

even with +quit baked into the steamcmd invocation you will still see the error in the output. But I'll add that as a possible troubleshooting step for folks that script it and have the window auto-close on 'em

[fickle marsh]

Yea the error pops up but the window closes pretty quick 🙂

[fallen ermine]

Hey, maybe that's an easy question, but searching didn't help me here^^

Where can you submit or track issues regarding ded servers?

[quick mist]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[fickle marsh]

wooot we are running! @quick mist @loud minnow @gusty void ty for the assistance

[quick mist]

fantastic! 🍻

[frosty gale]

anyones ram Pegged on a new world?

[solid iron]

minimum ram usage has increased quite a bit

[frosty gale]

i would argue right now the dedicated expirmental server is unplayable 😐

[quick mist]

look at the last dozen or so posts in #social-media ; CSS knows and is working on a lot of showstoppers

[frosty gale]

i have to reboot the server ever 15 minutes just to keep generators going

[loud minnow]

you need at least 8GB of free ram for the server to be able to startup as there is a bug

[quick mist]

a lot of things (like not being able to pick plants or chip at veins more than a few hundred meters from spawn) are not constrained to dedicated servers

(p2p multiplayer was exhibiting them for me too last night)

[loud minnow]

i fix that on dedicated by just reloading the latest autosave and it will unload the ram and reload it and it will fix the biomass issue for me

but will still happen after you studown the server and restart it back up you have to reload the save again to fix it again

[quick mist]

it's worse on peer to peer- people were getting stuck inside plants others had picked and had to respawn-- and then could not intract with their drop-boxen

[solid iron]

I've tried all maners of restarting any part of the process, to no avail

[quick mist]

I'm happy for those for whom "restart the server every 10 minutes" is an acceptable fix, but it's not good for me or my crew; I am content to wait.

[solid iron]

Yup, pretty much

[civic lantern]

yeah, like why beat your head against a bug that must be really high on CSS's list

[loud minnow]

have you tried to go into the in-game server manger menu and go to load save and reload the latest autosave and it will stay fix as long as you dont shutdown the server

[quick mist]

not if the server crashes as soon as any clients connect, which is why I switched to trying p2p last night

[solid iron]

I did, yesterday

But since then we're just playing on my local serv :p

I'll upload the save ~

[loud minnow]

i play on my own built server and that worked for me for the biomass issue

[loud minnow]

that coould be ram issues

[frosty gale]

8GB for a server is a chunk of resources

but eh ill wait

[quick mist]

I was watching RAM creep, it was using more but not all of the RAM available

[loud minnow]

yeah there is abug where the game right now is using twice as much ram as normal 8GB for just the server to start up afterwards it goes down to around 4.5GB

[bleak oar]

Is there a known issue with steamCMD not downloading the correct experimental branch?

[loud minnow]

no

[quick mist]

some CDN nodes were delayed but should be all caught up by now

[bleak oar]

my server keeps booting into 188609

instead of 192596

[quick mist]

are you sure you're on the experimental branch?

[solid iron]

try to move/rename the install dir to force re-download

And yeah make sure to include -beta experimental in your steamcmd command

[bleak oar]

Branch Name: ++FactoryGame+dev-experimental

[solid iron]

I do not know what that means

[bleak oar]

its pulling the experimental branch

[bleak oar]

its there

[solid iron]

Have you moved the install folder ?

[bleak oar]

i did all that yesterday

[solid iron]

Or changed the +force_install_dir param ?

[bleak oar]

but i havent tried today

[solid iron]

Yeah try again maybe

the CDN was slow yesterday

Today it should be updated

[loud minnow]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Configuration

[quick mist]

Interesting, I don't see that:

$ grep -C1 -E 'Net CL|NetCL' FactoryGame.log
LogInit: Compatible Engine Version: 4.26.2-192596+++FactoryGame+rel-main-0.6.0
LogInit: Net CL: 192596
LogInit: OS: GenericOSVersionLabel (GenericOSSubVersionLabel), CPU: AMD EPYC 7601 32-Core Processor                , GPU: GenericGPUBrand
--
[2022.06.14-23.33.50:548][  0]LogSerialization: Display: AllowBulkDataInIoStore: 'true'
[2022.06.14-23.33.50:549][  0]LogNetVersion: FactoryGame 1.0.0, NetCL: 192596, EngineNetVer: 16, GameNetVer: 0 (Checksum: 513298065)
[2022.06.14-23.33.50:734][  0]LogConsoleManager: Warning: Console object named 'CSS.Debug.MarkAllItemsAsRadioActive' already exists but is being registered again, but we weren't expected it to be! (FConsoleManager::AddConsoleObject)
--
[2022.06.14-23.34.12:011][531]LogBeacon: Beacon Hello
[2022.06.14-23.34.12:011][531]LogNetVersion: FactoryGame ++FactoryGame+rel-main-0.6.0-CL-192596, NetCL: 192596, EngineNetVer: 16, GameNetVer: 0 (Checksum: 2739705954)
[2022.06.14-23.34.12:111][534]LogBeacon: Client netspeed is 120000

[solid iron]

I have never seen that particular one either

[loud minnow]

me either that is why i link the wiki lol

[solid iron]

I've installed several dedis yesterday

All through steamcmd 'raw'

0 problems

With the update part, that is

Can you try with just steamcmd ?

[quick mist]

yeah, steamcmd has never given me issues; I don't understand why so many people want to complicate it with docker or dead dinosaurs

[solid iron]

To at least check you get the right package

[loud minnow]

same

[quick mist]

to each eir own though

[bleak oar]

ill try rebuilding everything and rerunning

but i continue to get this in the log [2022.06.15-15.37.45:249][ 0]LogInit: Display: Game Engine Initialized. [2022.06.15-15.37.45:249][ 0]LogNetVersion: Set ProjectVersion to ++FactoryGame+dev-experimental-CL-188609. Version Checksum will be recalculated on next use.

[solid iron]

Can't you try just with steamcmd ? At least we can debug easily that way

[bleak oar]

and the game loads up as version 188609

[solid iron]

just cd to an empty folder

[bleak oar]

im using the ich777 docker

[solid iron]

Do you have ssh access to the machine ?

[bleak oar]

on boot the docker downloads and updates then launches

yes

[solid iron]

Is it possible for you to just try manually ?

Skip docker

[quick mist]

can you try without docker in the interest of removing unrelated variables?

[solid iron]

For now

[bleak oar]

maybe hold on

[solid iron]

#!/bin/bash

installDir=$HOME/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer
branch=experimental

steamcmd +force_install_dir $installDir +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta $branch validate +quit

Then use these to install

Change vars as desired

[quick mist]

Very similar to my script (:

[loud minnow]

LogInit: Compiled (64-bit): Jun  8 2022 14:01:44
LogInit: Compiled with Visual C++: 19.29.30145.00
LogInit: Build Configuration: Shipping
LogInit: Branch Name: ++FactoryGame+rel-main-0.6.0
LogInit: Command Line:  -log -unattended
LogInit: Base Directory: E:/satisfactory_server/Engine/Binaries/Win64/
LogInit: Allocator: binned2
LogInit: Installed Engine Build: 0
LogInit: Launcher File: E:/satisfactory_server/launcher_id
LogInit: Launcher ID: steam
LogInit: Launcher Artifact: ```

ok found it LogLuminAPIImpl: Warning: MLSDK not found. This likely means the MLSDK environment variable is not set. LogInit: Build: ++FactoryGame+rel-main-0.6.0-CL-192596

[bleak oar]

im testing a different docker right now.

the one ive been using is a little over complicated

[solid iron]

x)

[bleak oar]

but this new one is downloading everything so we will see if it gets the right version

here is the log from this new docker it looks identical to my other one

[solid iron]

That's pretty much why we're suggesting skipping docker X)

[bleak oar]

ya

[quick mist]

I don't see anything in there about selecting the Experimental branch

[solid iron]

We need to check if it's a steam cdn problem or a docker image problem

[quick mist]

so again: excise Docker to make sure it's not the problem

[fallen nova]

For when its not quite True:

[quick mist]

ture is flase, up is down, cats and dogs live together

it's a mad mad mad mad world

[loud minnow]

lol

[fallen nova]

so i see i have found my people

been maintaining my own dedicated server

[loud minnow]

same

[fallen nova]

and its going swimmingly

man is this shit buggy

the Programmable Splitter is straight up crashing the game and our sessions

[quick mist]

The ProgSplitter is a known cantankerous contraption sadly

[loud minnow]

yeah tell me about it took me a couple of hour finding out bug with picking up biomass and i figure it out on my own server and a fix for it but that was fun lol

[bleak oar]

@solid iron @quick mist I think i got it to work.

[fallen nova]

knoqn A QHr?

[bleak oar]

i extracted the start scripts from the docker. updated them then pushed them back and rebooted the docker.

it appears the -beta experimental wasnt being passed to the start script properly but once i updated the start script it appears to work now

[fallen nova]

so it is possible to run the server on the experimental build?

[bleak oar]

moving my old saves back in so ill know if it was a true success in just a min

[bleak oar]

my understanding is yes

[fervent mountain]

Hi everyone, i just created a new dedicated server with a docker image, but the game has a weird bug.
All the players including me can't pick up leaves/wood. Is this normal?

[loud minnow]

yeah im running one right now

[quick mist]

known bug. restarting the server might help for a bit, but expect a patch/update soon

not necessarily today but soon

[loud minnow]

welcome to the club in the in game manager got to load and reload the latest autosave

see if that helps

[quick mist]

let's just say that CSS was not kidding when they said this release was less solid than their usual first public releases have been

it's the cross we bear for playing with experimental builds, and we're helping for the full mainline release to be better, so take solace in that!

[fervent mountain]

Same bug sadly

[fallen nova]

so is there any solutions for the programmable splitter?

[quick mist]

the best 'solution' I have found historically is workaround with smart splitters in series

not ideal, I know

[fallen nova]

it keeps swapping the outputs I decide and crashing the game

[fallen nova]

oh really? so there is straight up no way that they work?

is it a programmable splitter problem or a Server problem?

[loud minnow]

do you have an old save that has a clean start try loading that in some people say that fixed it for them

[quick mist]

they have always been crash- and settings-munging-prone in multiplayer

(both DS and P2P)

[fervent mountain]

No we just started a new server. I guess we'll have to wait for a fix 🙂

[quick mist]

@fervent mountain you could try starting a world in singleplayer and uploading it to the server, but no guarantee it'll work any better

[loud minnow]

ohh i see well some people say if you bring a save from the stable branch and load it in and then you log into the game it wont work probably but if you reload the save again from the ingame manger it might work

but this are the workaround that you have to try for me reloading the latest autosave fixes that bug every time for me

[undone zealot]

Hello is there anyone here that can assist me with steamcmd updating

[quick mist]

Please state the nature of the steamcmd emergency

[undone zealot]

i installed my server long ago and cant remember what i done but to update my server i keep getting command not found

[quick mist]

steamcmd may not be in your Path. Do you recall where you installed it to?

[undone zealot]

.\steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta public validate +quit

[quick mist]

that commandline is correct but assumes you are running it from the directory in which steamcmd is located

(that command will not though put you onto the Experimental release)

[undone zealot]

cmd is in my x86 dir and when i direct it there it fails

[loud minnow]

steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer +app_update 1690800 -beta public validate +quit

[quick mist]

things that are not the same, partial list: steamcmd.exe; cmd.exe

[undone zealot]

i tried both

Program Files (x86)\Steam.\steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta public validate +quit

[quick mist]

steamcmd is not part of the default GUI Steam client installation

if you do not recall where you installed it, just re-install it to a new location

[fervent mountain]

Same bug, i guess i'll wait for an update. Thanks anyways 🙂

[quick mist]

🍻 here's to future updates being more.. Satisfactory

[loud minnow]

all you have to do is make a .bat file and save it to the SteamCMD folder and inside the .bat file have this steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer +app_update 1690800 -beta public validate +quit and it should work

[undone zealot]

The Gui didnt do the update to U6 so im so im trying to use cmd to update to U6

[quick mist]

you can use the GUI to update to U6, just go to the Betas tab in the properties and set your branch to Experimental

to use the command line you have to first install steamcmd

you can't use what is not installed

[loud minnow]

ok same thing just steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate +quit

[loud minnow]

i think you should read this first https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Configuration

[quick mist]

@loud minnow you're missing the important first step of "make sure Steamcmd is even installed in the first place"

[loud minnow]

yeah that is why i link him the https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Configuration

[undone zealot]

ill give this a try first but if its been in early access and i now go to experimental will that mess things up?

[loud minnow]

lol

[undone zealot]

steamcmd is installed

[quick mist]

@undone zealot I suggest backing up your save first just in case to be safe. anything you built in the areas where the map has changed will probably be jacked up

[fallen ermine]

Does anyone know where the savegames are on a ded server?
Not in the FactoryGame folder...

[quick mist]

Linux or Windows?

[fallen ermine]

Linux

[quick mist]

in Linux, look in ~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/

[mental locust]

Yep

[fallen ermine]

yeee, found it, thanks a lot 😄

[maiden mist]

How can i free myself? Ican't move.

[inner saddle]

hello,anyone else got this problem ? sometime after launch the server no player can grab leaves,wood, or even open container, then sometimes it work after a relaunch

[loud minnow]

in the in game manager got to load and reload the latest autosave
see if that helps or bring an old save that i clean from stable and see if that helps also

some people say reloading the save a couple of time it worked for them

[inner saddle]

ok i will try it, but it was a new game made yesterday, before the 1st patch, i didn't got this pb

[keen vortex]

lots of people reporting erratic behavior around harvesting leaves

[loud minnow]

ti comes back after you shutdown the server and retart it back up leaves bug out again

for me reloading the latest auto save fixes that bug for me but it varies from people to people

[inner saddle]

it's seem working with the last autosave, i'll wait for other players to test it

[loud minnow]

yeah that fix it for me also an other player say it works for them too... just remember if it happens again just reload the latest autosave

[inner saddle]

👍

[loud minnow]

well at least i know my method works for other people also 🙂

[mental locust]

Good evening everyone

Any other big issues?

Hate having to restart server because of they can't pick stuff up

[loud minnow]

beside the leaves lol not much

yeah hopefully they release a small hotfix for that because it seems A LOT of people have it

[mental locust]

And it's a pain

[shy orchid]

Hello can someone help me? My server crashes on startup

Failed to initialize server. Could not bind any addresses to port '15777'
0x00007fc97cb3524e libUE4Server-FactoryGame-Linux-Shipping.so!UFGServerSocket::Initialize(short) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Games/FactoryGame/Source/FactoryGame/Private/Server/FGServerSocket.cpp:223]
0x00007fc97cb39022 libUE4Server-FactoryGame-Linux-Shipping.so!UFGServerSubsystem::Initialize(FSubsystemCollectionBase&) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Games/FactoryGame/Source/FactoryGame/Private/Server/FGServerSubsystem.cpp:94]
0x00007fc9aa1b02aa libUE4Server-Engine-Linux-Shipping.so!FSubsystemCollectionBase::AddAndInitializeSubsystem(UClass*) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Engine/Source/Runtime/Engine/Private/Subsystems/SubsystemCollection.cpp:209]
0x00007fc9aa1af8de libUE4Server-Engine-Linux-Shipping.so!FSubsystemCollectionBase::Initialize(UObject*) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Engine/Source/Runtime/Engine/Private/Subsystems/SubsystemCollection.cpp:132]
0x00007fc9a9be664f libUE4Server-Engine-Linux-Shipping.so!UGameInstance::Init() [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Engine/Source/Runtime/Engine/Private/GameInstance.cpp:99]
0x00007fc97c8b3901 libUE4Server-FactoryGame-Linux-Shipping.so!UFGGameInstance::Init() [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Games/FactoryGame/Source/FactoryGame/Private/FGGameInstance.cpp:78]
0x00007fc9a9bc10c3 libUE4Server-Engine-Linux-Shipping.so!UGameEngine::Init(IEngineLoop*) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Engine/Source/Runtime/Engine/Private/GameEngine.cpp:1107]
0x00007fc97c8b336a libUE4Server-FactoryGame-Linux-Shipping.so!UFGGameEngine::Init(IEngineLoop*) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Games/FactoryGame/Source/FactoryGame/Private/FGGameEngine.cpp:40]
0x0000000000214c4e UE4Server-Linux-Shipping!FEngineLoop::Init() [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Engine/Source/Runtime/Launch/Private/LaunchEngineLoop.cpp:4008]
0x000000000021623c UE4Server-Linux-Shipping!GuardedMain(char16_t const*) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Engine/Source/Runtime/Launch/Private/Launch.cpp:153]
0x00007fc9a7c96dc5 libUE4Server-UnixCommonStartup-Linux-Shipping.so!CommonUnixMain(int, char**, int (*)(char16_t const*), void (*)()) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Engine/Source/Runtime/Unix/UnixCommonStartup/Private/UnixCommonStartup.cpp:264]
0x00007fc9a7ae9d0a libc.so.6!__libc_start_main(+0xe9)
0x0000000000214709 UE4Server-Linux-Shipping!_start()




Signal 11 caught.
Malloc Size=65538 LargeMemoryPoolOffset=65554

I have this in red

[mental locust]

Ram size?

[inner saddle]

Failed to initialize server. Could not bind any addresses to port '15777'

it is writed

[loud minnow]

what your ram on your system if you dont have more than 8GB free server wont start

[inner saddle]

are you sure this port is not already used ?

[quick mist]

not the issue here @loud minnow .

the issue is that something else is already bound to the UDP port the server is trying to use

do you have another instance of the server running already @shy orchid ?

[mental locust]

Aww ok any other game servers on it?

[shy orchid]

this port is default

[loud minnow]

yeah haven't mess with linux that much so i wouln't know hahah but i was just saying as a rule of thump lol but yeah is on the first lines

[quick mist]

yes, but "cannot bind to port" means something else is already bound to that port

[inner saddle]

port is already bound, are you using linux or windows ?

[shy orchid]

my machine is on linux and client windows

[inner saddle]

check first with a netstat -ltup

[quick mist]

run this and share the output please:

sudo ss -plnu | grep 15777

[shy orchid]

just ts

[quick mist]

that won't work as it's asking for TCP listeners, not UDP

[mental locust]

Couldn't he just move it to 1578

15778

[quick mist]

if the issue is "there's already an SF server running" the solution is "use that server or shut it down"

[honest sinew]

anyone else having chainsaw issues? seems like ican't pick up flowers from ground either

[mental locust]

@honest sinew restart server

[quick mist]

yes. known issue. expect an update "soon" ™️

[mental locust]

Or reload last save

[shy orchid]

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:ssh             0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -
tcp6       0      0 [::]:ssh                [::]:*                  LISTEN      -
udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:15777           0.0.0.0:*                           7368/UE4Server-Linu
`

[inner saddle]

sudo netstat -unlp| grep ":15777" work -u = udp -t tcp (my mistake)

[quick mist]

thank you. that shows there's already a game server running and listening to that UDP port. It's most likely you already have a running Satisfactory server

or, possibly, another Unreal Engine 4 game server assigned to the same port

[inner saddle]

are you sharing the server ? or running others game ?

[mental locust]

Like wouldn't they know if they already installed satisfactory server?

[quick mist]

...you'd be surprised

[mental locust]

Oh it's that bad?...

[inner saddle]

it can be a big dedicated server and multihosting

[shy orchid]

my server is running apparently but it is supposed to have crashed

[mental locust]

I have a bare metal server

[inner saddle]

you can pkill the pid process

[mental locust]

Installed pterodactyl

[quick mist]

kill -TERM 7368 should shut down the rogue server process if that's the path you want to take

[mental locust]

It's the best for multiple instances

[inner saddle]

ptero is hard to deploy if don't know how to do it

[quick mist]

let's not make things more complex than they have to be

[inner saddle]

linuxgsm can be more easy

[quick mist]

I'd discommend that too

[inner saddle]

powershellgsm by patrick for windows

[mental locust]

Oh sorry..

[shy orchid]

I restart ?

[mental locust]

It's not that complicated... but I understand

[inner saddle]

but yes good choice for multi instance 😉 the admin must understand the basic network settings

[quick mist]

yes, once you've run that, try starting the server again.

[mental locust]

@inner saddle what's your server specs?

[inner saddle]

my laptop for small lan party, i don't use it really, core i7 6600k, 24GB ram, nvme 960Evo

really large enough for hosting satisfactory

[quick mist]

notbad.svg

[inner saddle]

😄

i'm most used with bigger server at work

like Esx bare metal, and azure cloud

[shy orchid]

when i connect the server crashed

[meager phoenix]

Hello guys, did they send out a fix for the issue with not beeing able to interact with plants etc on dedicated servers ?

[inner saddle]

any log ?

[quick mist]

not yet

[meager phoenix]

ait thanks!: )

[inner saddle]

take your last autosave, and reload it in the game, it work for me

[shy orchid]

dlopen failed trying to load:
steamclient.so
with error:
steamclient.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
dlopen failed trying to load:
/home/steam/.steam/sdk64/steamclient.so
with error:
/home/steam/.steam/sdk64/steamclient.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[S_API] SteamAPI_Init(): Sys_LoadModule failed to load: /home/steam/.steam/sdk64/steamclient.so`

[mental locust]

@shy orchid who'd hosting thar server?

[inner saddle]

SteamAppId = 526870 ???

[shy orchid]

vps omgserv

[quick mist]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#SteamAPI_Init.28.29:_Sys_LoadModule_failed_to_load:_.2Fpath.2Fto.2F.steam.2Fsdk64.2Fsteamclient.so

[shy orchid]

🤷‍♂️

[inner saddle]

normally the id is 1690800 no ?

[mental locust]

@shy orchid I cam host you a instance if you can't figure it out

[inner saddle]

bordel c'est pas donné

[shy orchid]

qxzdecvehtxz

[shy orchid]

mais t'es Français 😭

[inner saddle]

i stay in english here cause all the community speak EN, so it can be more easy for them to understand what we are talking about 😉

[shy orchid]

yes but my English very bad (google trad)

[shy orchid]

how can i change this?

[leaden aspen]

hey why does this always happen when loading into a fresh server into which ive uploaded a save from my pc

[quick mist]

it is common -even expected - to be kicked from a server with a timeout when you upload or switch savefiles

give it a minute and reconnect and you should be fine

[mental locust]

I set my timeout to 100 seconds

No issues ever since

[leaden aspen]

no i was never connected to the server this just happens after i uploaded it. Ive also restarted the server once but i guess i will give it some more time

i upload it > logs stop printing messages > i join

it looks like the server is crashing everytime i join

[mental locust]

How many gigs of ram?

[leaden aspen]

8

[mental locust]

Ya...

It has issues with servers with only 8 gigs atm

@quick mist am I wrong?

[quick mist]

8GiB is kind of tight with the current Experimental build, yes.

[mental locust]

Was making sure dint want to give out false info

[civic lantern]

I had that happen to me, I had to full reboot my client so that I could join a server that I had just created a world on

That said, the game has a good chance of being unplayable until the next hotfix if you are starting a new map

[nimble sapphire]

I ran into this problem because I was running out of ram. Just this was consuming almost 8.5-9gig of ram during loading the first time, and that was with a new server not a pre-built one. The server would max out of ram and would crash

[quick mist]

yep, a lot of people reporting this.

CSS is working on a new patch in light of all the issues, see #social-media

[nimble sapphire]

it was also much more laggy, the cpu consumption jumps drastically when the little flying bugs are running around

[leaden aspen]

yeah i can confirm it was ram... works fine on another server with 16 gigs

[civic lantern]

switches off his linode

[mental locust]

They need to make a announcement that 9+ gigs is needed on experimental

[quick mist]

unless that's due to a bug/memory leak and will no longer be the case after a patch

[mental locust]

Hopefully

I hope it's easy to track down

[quick mist]

leaks usually are- with debug symbols on it's easy to see what alloc() calls aren't paired with dealloc() calls when inspecting a growing Stack or Heap

[mental locust]

Awsome

[loud minnow]

Yeah is funny how after a while ram usage get below 1gb and stays there or the most around 4.5gb but the initial load up is around 8gb alone

[mental locust]

Wait really

Mine hovers around 7

[loud minnow]

Yeah after is been idle for a while it will drop

[mental locust]

Oh ok

[tardy orchid]

my Satis is around 2.4G RAM when starting and i still get the network error message i only have 6G RAM in total how long is a while until it drops? hopefully they fix it soon!!

[loud minnow]

Well it won’t drop unless it started first so you must have 8gb free for start up

[nimble sapphire]

well, you very likely maxed out your ram which is why it only allocated 2.4gig before it maxed out and crashed

[tardy orchid]

so you need to connect first ?? then it will drop ?

[vale parrot]

I just had a player getting connection timeouts on my server wwith 8GB and I had to up it to 12GB (of whwich 9.5GB is now in use)

[amber sky]

Has anyone gotten update 6 to work on a linux server?

[nimble sapphire]

well, according to a comment here earlier it jumps all way past 8gig and then supposedly drops over time but I havent seen anyone else say it drops that much... but the initial jump is still there

[loud minnow]

initial start up ram usage

after a while that nobody has been connected but is still running

[nimble sapphire]

and when someone joins, what does it jump up to?

[vale parrot]

I just restarted mine and 1 player connected:

[nimble sapphire]

11gigs? uff

[meager phoenix]

2 players connected

[mental locust]

@vale parrot hey:) your doing the same As me

[vale parrot]

🙂

[vale parrot]

Pterodactyl is genius for stuff like this. I just run it at my home server

[loud minnow]

i might give that software a try look pretty cool

[mental locust]

It is:)

@vale parrot mine is on a bare metal server

In hetzner

[vale parrot]

Mine runs on a K8s cluster and VM for the wings, virtualized on vSphere at my house. Looking to find a cheap colo for a 1U server but it's not really worth it with the power requirements for a 48 core 1.5TB mem node. 😅

[mental locust]

48 cores?????

[vale parrot]

2x 24

[mental locust]

Wow

How much does it power it?

[vale parrot]

I work in virtualization so I get some lucky "old" free picks from customers every now and then.
It's got 2x 1000W PSU, but maxed out it runs around 500-600W under full load.

[mental locust]

Wow so expensive to run?

[nimble sapphire]

ill take a free pick 😛

[mental locust]

Same 😆

[tardy orchid]

my initial after startup is 2.4G

as soon as someone connects it jumps up and its crashing always

[loud minnow]

yeah becuase the map is not loaded yet is just the instance

that loaded

[nimble sapphire]

ah yes, that is normal. The first person to load triggers a bunch of stuff on the server, before that its just some basic stuff

[loud minnow]

^

[tardy orchid]

ah thanks now i understand ❤️

[kind plinth]

how would you report and error with ghost player crates, ( i can loot it, but cant open it again and it wont go away)

[quick mist]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[blazing halo]

It's probably the same thing as with everything else -- the contents get picked up, but there's an "afterimage" that remains.

[cunning field]

im having a big lagspike everytime this happens, what could cause this?

[blazing halo]

Much like with vehicles that leave a noninteractive "ghost".

Or indeed, plants you picked up that don't disappear.

Or stones that "return" after being blown up.

[quick mist]

@cunning field you have it backwards-- that happens when there is a lag spike, not the other way around

[cunning field]

oh fuck

i see

[blazing halo]

That's the server basically saying that it was busy with something else, and was late responding (so, in the meantime, the timestamp on these expired). And since they seem to deal with character movement...

[cunning field]

is it a bandwidth problem or could be hdd writing speed problem? thonk

[blazing halo]

It depends - what is your server machine doing when this happens? Is it stuck in I/O? Is the CPU use spiking?

[cunning field]

mhmhmmm

[kind plinth]

its a known issue though?

[quick mist]

^ this. Insufficient contextual data for us to give a meaningful analysis

[cunning field]

gonna check it out

[blazing halo]

Though once the server loads in completely, disk access tends to be minimal, even when saving the game. My money would be either on CPU load (so: upgrade your CPU), or RAM being shuffled around/paged out (so: add more RAM).

If Experimental/U6, it could also be leaking RAM and causing paging this way.

[amber sky]

Hey Kad do you think 48GB Ram dedicated to a satisfactory server would good?

[cunning field]

it is apparently a laptop xD

[short bough]

So im not sure if the question has been asked before and Yes the server is installed, running and the ports are opened. Im having an issue where when im trying to add the server to my server manager i get a connection timeout error on client side and server side logs a warning saying Warning: Empty certificate identifier and when the client gets dropped i get an error saying broadcast network failure with failure type : Connection timeout Anyone knows whats going on or what im doing wrong ?

[blazing halo]

The stable branch needs up to 10 GB for really big saves (big enough to start being an issue in terms of save timeouts). Memory isn't the issue. Single-threaded CPU power is.

[cunning field]

that cpu is not exactly very strong

[blazing halo]

(the Experimental branch seems to use about 30% more RAM, but it also seems to have a leak, so 100000 TB of RAM may not be enough ;P)

That CPU will work for you, but you'll start to see 10-second saves once you build up your base.

(it's close to my i7-3770)

[blazing halo]

Have you checked the ports individually? As in, are they reachable from where you're trying to reach them?

[short bough]

Yep

[blazing halo]

Are you trying to do a NAT hairpin without having NAT hairpin in place?

[short bough]

They are all opened and the server is listening for them.

[amber sky]

Btw has could someone maybe help me with my server. It is on Ubuntu 21.04 running as a systemd service. I created a game and everything but when I go to connect to it, it start but then timeouts. All of the ports need are open so I have no idea what the issue is. Anyone know why?

[blazing halo]

Have you actually tested if you can connect to them?

[blazing halo]

Does your log say "dropping repeated login" or something to that effect, when you try connecting?

[amber sky]

Nope

[short bough]

Well i never had any issues openning ports and as far has powershell says they are opened and working. I also tried removing all 3 firewalls (Vps Firewall, Game Firewall and windows firewall) with still the same issue

[blazing halo]

How are you connecting? Give deets. Over LAN? Over the Internet?

[blazing halo]

Does your server log say anything about dropping repeated login packets?

[short bough]

Nope

[amber sky]

Over the internet I have had 0 issues until update 6

[blazing halo]

Ah. So it's likely an experimental/u6 issue.

[amber sky]

Don't know if anyone else had figured out how to get it working

[short bough]

Thats the only thing the server says when ever im trying to reach it and it follows with an error for the connection timeout

[amber sky]

Whenever loading in for me I get the same timeout

[blazing halo]

What's the setup there? It's showing its source as coming from some sort of ipv6-to-4 tunnel.

[short bough]

Basic Game-Ovh hosted server

[loud minnow]

whats your server specs

[blazing halo]

Or just treating ipv4 as ipv6, don't know why.

[short bough]

I cant recall the exacts spec of this one. One sec

[blazing halo]

I would recommend trying to disable IPv6 support temporarily. See if it helps.

If it does, the issue is in the game's handling of IP connectivity. If not, it's something else, or something more.

[short bough]

I'll try it out

[amber sky]

I had to force the experimental branch to use ipv4 as it is trying to default to ipv6 for me

[quick mist]

can confirm that may be a good idea. Before we gave up due to other issues, one of my clients was failing to connect by hostname, but when using the IPv4 address the connection worked

(my hostname resolves both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses and it seems the game prefers IPv6 if available)

[blazing halo]

I wouldn't be surprised. I still see software very confused by IPv6, and some setups are insane.

[short bough]

Ipv6 isnt activated currently

[amber sky]

Are on experimental?

[short bough]

Yep

[amber sky]

Have you tried using -multihome=Ip?

[short bough]

Nope

[amber sky]

That will force the server to use IPv4

That is what I had to do as U6 seems to be defaulting to ipv6

[quick mist]

(use the actual IP address, not just Ip (: )

[amber sky]

Yeah

[short bough]

I'll try it, one sec

[amber sky]

don't think that will work

[quick mist]

or just 0.0.0.0 to bind to all IPv4 interfaces

[short bough]

So should i use the actual ip or 0.0.0.0 ?

[quick mist]

either. I use 0.0.0.0

[short bough]

That worked

Thank you very much

[cunning field]

so back to the lag

its just a known issue and i cant really do anything about it?

[amber sky]

Just got to wait for a hotfix or a patch update

[blazing halo]

Did you profile the machine in any way to see where the issue might be?

[cunning field]

im playing on non experimental btw

oh i will do that tmr

[amber sky]

Dedicated server are still new and have a lot of stuff to figure out

[cunning field]

will monitor ram and cpu load

maybe i should monitor bandwith too?

[blazing halo]

Unless you're on dial-up, I doubt network issues will affect it to the point of it dropping updates.

[cunning field]

nodnod

[cunning field]

compared to that there are not much issues with it

[blazing halo]

In general, movement update drops only happen when the server is otherwise occupied.

Since it's part of core functionality, there's a very short list of things that could occupy it to that point.

[amber sky]

There is some fine tuning to do with it to make it more optimized and run smoother

[cunning field]

the more than 20 drones moving around could be problem?

[blazing halo]

Unless you're running on a potato, I doubt it.

Besides, calculation precision/update frequency is subject to the same LOD as graphics, from what I can tell.

So, literally, "out of sight = out of mind".

[cunning field]

then idk ill monitor cpu n ram load tmr

[quick mist]

the drones themselves? No. All the rest of the factories and power grids and vehicles and sorters and belts and miners and refineries you need to get drones? quite possibly cumulatively.

[blazing halo]

I doubt it.

Have you noticed how "jumpy" things start to get as you move further away? Graphics-wise it makes sense to have a LOD that cuts down on animations.

[quick mist]

but yes- monitor system resource contention and correlate with service and system logs to get a better picture of what may be a proximate cause of lag spikes.

[blazing halo]

But as far as calculations are concerned, I've noticed that it sometimes takes a hot second for things to update if I haven't been near something recently.

[cunning field]

how do i access system logs?

[blazing halo]

So my deduction leads me to believe that the processing (or CPU power, or "ticks") assigned to each node is also subject to LOD.

[cunning field]

i havent done that yet

[quick mist]

system logs are usually in /var/log. server logs are in whatever directory you installed the server into

[cunning field]

mhmhm oki

oh not windows logs but server logs

[blazing halo]

In Linux, you'll want either dmesg -Tw or tail -f /var/log/{whatever}. On Windows, you won't see performance info in the System Logs, so don't bother.

[quick mist]

Windows logs are in the Event Mangler Manager / Viewer

[cunning field]

aye thx

[blazing halo]

But better than logs, you'll want some sort of performance probe gathering perf data.

The most basic tool you'd use on Windows is the Task Manager's view on resources.

It should be enough to identify spikes and high-load situations.

Under Linux, top or - more friendly - htop.

[blazing halo]

You know, the Event View is actually perfectly fine for its purpose. Not sure why you felt the need to add that jab there. On principle?

[quick mist]

I find it almost as user-hostile as Dwarf Fortress whenever I have to use it, especially in comparison to good old system logs and a handy grep

largely due to Microsoft's pants-on-head definitions of what should be in the System, Application or Security event rosters

hey look #patch-notes \o/

update is already on the US West CDN

[blazing halo]

• Dedicated server should not crash anymore when it fails to bind to a port
Oh, I remember this one!

• Fixed a crash that may happen if the server settings file is corrupted. In this case, the server will use default settings instead
That should've been in from the start, man...

Ugh. People call me a pessimist. I defend: being properly pessimistic is a skill and it took me years of hard, dedicated work to develop!

[quick mist]

Something something gift horses and mouths.

[blazing halo]

Then, in the same vein, don't report bugs. ;]

[quick mist]

Also I submit that pessimists are happier people than optimists

[blazing halo]

Also, to be clear: you're welcome to check over the gift horse's teeth once the gift's been given and accepted. It's yours then, and you should check out what's going on there.

[quick mist]

Optimists by definition always expect the most optimal outcome, and as such are more likely than not to be disappointed by any eventuality.
Pessimists by definition always expect the worst outcome and as such are more likely than not to be pleasantly surprised.

[blazing halo]

The point is not to complain as the gift is being given, instead accepting it with grace.

[quick mist]

Many gold starts for knowing the actual meaning of the aphorism, Kad (:

[blazing halo]

I personally find that, even with pessimism, my projections are still quite optimistic vis-a-vis actual, recorded results.

[quick mist]

you need to refine your pessimism (:

[blazing halo]

Thank you. I deserve them!

[loud minnow]

well updating the server let see how it goes lol

[quick mist]

good luck!

I've already updated mine but I'm at work so can't test myself, heh

[blazing halo]

But my humble self aside, what I was getting at was that it wasn't really appropriate here.

[loud minnow]

same

[blazing halo]

> at work
> can't test

People aren't serious any more. What happend to having VPNs and remote desktops set up? Also, don't know about today's Steam's remote play app, but Steam Link does work over VPN and it works just fine. :D

[loud minnow]

i can start up the server and everything but i cant play the game to test it lol

[quick mist]

okay, I could test but I can't test easily while still keeping my KVM set to my work computer and maintaining the illusion of being fastidious with respect to my employer's offer to trade money for my time and attention

[loud minnow]

i mean i can play over remote desktop at like 15FPS lol

[blazing halo]

Yes, that is a valid concern.

Though I'm lead to understand that we all deserve breaks, and how you deal with yours is pretty much up to you, within reason. ;P

(just arguing for the sake argument here, though, so you're welcome to ignore me ;P)

[loud minnow]

lol but i message some peeps see if they can log into the game to test biomass bug lol haha

[quick mist]

having just had my "this is minute 83 of your 60 minute lunch break" alarm go off...

[blazing halo]

... xD

And to think I wanted to applaud your dedication to your employer...

But, I can't say I'm much better, at times, so I've little to stand on.

[quick mist]

I make up for it by responding to my cow-orkers while on my breaks rather than becoming a black hole.

[blazing halo]

I much prefer to reset during my breaks, so I can look at whatever I was doing with fresh (or fresh-er) eyes. To each their own.

I only have one person I need to specifically report to/update, so it's fine for me.

[quick mist]

yeah, some days I do that too. Days like today that were largely consumed with tedious copy-and-paste busywork because "why would we make an API for that?" I don't really mind wasting a little of my employer's time if it's going to waste mine and its.

[loud minnow]

well can confirm biomass bug is still there and you have to reload the save to get it to work again and ram usage is still at around 8GB

well for me that is

[inner saddle]

same for me

[gusty void]

ram usage might not change from what i've been reading. That being said, I have noticed mine dip down to about 6gb at times, but it doesn't really coincide with anything unique happening in the game.

[meager phoenix]

is there a setting for animal spawns on the map when starting a new game ?

[keen vortex]

upgraded, created a new server world, attempted to join, client crashed

okm, finally got a world that would let me connect. still cannot harvest plants.

after stopping and restarting the serve, ri could harvest plants

but after moving some distance from where i spawned, i can no longer harvest plants

restarteed again, can now harvest plants where i am

[nimble sapphire]

the game is using 8.5gig+ ram while creating the map during load, if you run out, the game crashes right now

[keen vortex]

the client crashed, not the server

my server has 32g

[nimble sapphire]

yeah known issue, they are working on it. At least it worked for you with restart, others werent so lucky

[nimble sapphire]

hmm, just submit the logs when it asks

[keen vortex]

i alreadyt did

[nimble sapphire]

Let us know how your ram usage evolves during playing and when idle for a while

[keen vortex]

meh, kille dby a spider

[rare bridge]

Mine now gets up to 10.46GB RAM on a small save, almost no buidings yet

[keen vortex]

13.4g virtual

built nothing so far, just wadnering around

[rare bridge]

Wow

[keen vortex]

8.4g resident, 13.4 virtual

16152 satisfa+ 20 0 13.4g 8.4g 166552 R 88.7 26.6 8:47.19 UE4Server+

[loud minnow]

so this is after 30 minutes after start up which got to 8GB now is lower..... a friend of mine connected just to check for the biosmass bug then log off so this is after 30 minutes of being idle

[keen vortex]

this is on linux, might not be comparable to windows

[loud minnow]

yeah i know

[nimble sapphire]

true true

Mine is running on a docker

[keen vortex]

as is mine

it does seem to appear that after two or three reloads the biomass bug at least mitigates temporarily, and that reloading when it reappears mitigates it again, so meh

[teal notch]

Am I the only one who can't grab leaves in my dedicated server? Windows dedicated from Steamcmd. Northern forest start point.

[quartz kayak]

I can't use the chainsaw or pickup leaves at all. All of the greenery that was removed before 6 is now back. I can't open crates of any kind after 30 seconds of loading into the server. Rebooting both server / client works, but only temporarily. All of this on the dedicated windows server. It's unplayable... Am I the only one having these issues? Is there anything at all I can do? I'd really not like to have to reinstall everything and roll back to 5. :/

[quick mist]

neither of you are the only ones having these issues

[acoustic gulch]

a player joined but doesnt have hotbar and cant resource scan

[quick mist]

they are not specific to the dedicated server, and CSS is undoubtedly working on more patches

[opaque hill]

are picking up plants still broken

[quick mist]

look up literally two messages.

[opaque hill]

i saw it js now

haha

ty

[quick mist]

🍻

[quartz kayak]

It's all broken and the world is on fire.

/sarcasm

[quick mist]

at least it rains occasionally

[quartz kayak]

Not enough! :/

[loud minnow]

we dedicated server host's are in the back burner for them is single player experience is first and they'll get to our issues eventually lol

[shy orchid]

8 GB RAM is not enough??
my server crashes at startup because it goes above 8gb ram

[mental locust]

Yep

Needs 9

[shy orchid]

...

[loud minnow]

is mainly the initial start up and depends is its a clean save or not

[shy orchid]

any solution to launch?

[mental locust]

Nope

[shy orchid]

buy a vps for satis for nothing..

[mental locust]

@shy orchid need a instance?

[civic lantern]

I am trying it on an AWS 16gb instance

[mental locust]

I can host free on my server

[shy orchid]

I'll tell you tomorrow it pissed me off enough tonight

[mental locust]

Sorry:( try and get a refund

[shy orchid]

for omgserv it would surprise me enough

[mental locust]

Try

[loud minnow]

same willing to host for people make you an instance you just handle your own save from there for anyone interested i find it fun trying to get this ting to work lol

[subtle sundial]

next time you have to buy smth like that it would be a good idea to check minimum specs

the ones in #faq aren't up to date

[quick mist]

Or to run the stable branch while the issues in Experimental get sorted out

I truly don't think CSS was expecting the resource needs of the server to go up as they did. I fully expect some patches coming down the pike to fix that.

[mental locust]

Yep

[subtle sundial]

Oh most gracious overlord @golden roost if you can, can you update the min specs in your message in #faq and add ones for the servers pls thx

[mental locust]

Yess that would stop some questions

[quick mist]

the minimum specs in #faq are the minima to run the game, not to run the server.

[subtle sundial]

that's out of date anyway, the ones on the steam page are different

[quick mist]

(presumptively the minima to run the server would be lower but again- brand-new-major-release woes)

[mental locust]

Yep stuff like this happens

[shy orchid]

I inquired

[mental locust]

It is a early release game

[subtle sundial]

where's that?

[quick mist]

from the Wiki

and we determined those numbers based on watching RAM usage of active servers

[shy orchid]

but the experimental needs more which was not indicated

[quick mist]

they are not official numbers

[shy orchid]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[mental locust]

.......

[shy orchid]

unofficial info on an official wiki..

[quick mist]

it's a community Wiki; nothing on it is official

[subtle sundial]

it's officially recognised (sorta) but not officially maintained by CSS

[quick mist]

that said
It's unfortunate that you're out money, @shy orchid, and I feel for you. Hopefully the bloated RAM usage of the experimental release will be addressed soon and you'll be able to run the server on the horsepower you bought. In the mean time you can still run the mainline release perfectly well to get used to how the server can be expected to perform as Update Six matures

[mental locust]

Well said:)

[quick mist]

Thanks 😊

[nimble sapphire]

you can also join someone else's dedi server

[mental locust]

Idk if I can post it here so deleted

[quick mist]

probably for the best (:

[mental locust]

Yep just trying to be nice:) as people are having hard time

[loud minnow]

same lol haha

[mental locust]

?

Saw link

[loud minnow]

it was a gif

[quick mist]

they only allow links to certain approved domains; any others get purged.

[mental locust]

Good

I understand why

[loud minnow]

well i delete that one it didnt get purge lol

because it didnt show i guess is turn off lol

[mental locust]

So who here host 2 instances one regular and one experimental