dedicated-servers

[sour yoke]

gasp

[alpine dawn]

yeah

[mortal orchid]

I'll start a new playthrough in the sky if it's not fixed by the weekend, a lot of upcoming time off that needs to be occupied 😅

[alpine dawn]

sadly I think they kinda YOLO'd this patch

[clever idol]

Can't play FFXIV.. cause they turned off sales of that.. New World is practically unplayable (maybe today's changes are better)... Maybe Factorio?

[sour yoke]

Factorio is Bestorio

[clever idol]

I really want a Spiderbot in Satisfactory. KThxbye

[sour yoke]

That will be a mod I can feel it in my bones.

[clever idol]

If only I wasn't anti-mod. lol

[bright robin]

they still have tomorrow to fix it Ficsit, I'm sure it will be all good for the WE ^^

[sour yoke]

even if they can't get to it, I can find something else to do if it poses a problem. You know like going outside

and meeting people

[frosty gale]

anyone know a fix for the foliege remove error

since the update we are unable to remove leaves and trees

and in the console it gives the error unable to remove 288 instances for foliege removal

[orchid vault]

you can try the bug site but im guessing we have to wait for a patch fix

[frosty gale]

wheres that site?

[hushed gate]

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports at https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/ - <3 @orchid vault

Dec 16, 2021, 10:30 PM

[frosty gale]

thank uuuu

[keen vortex]

there's no way for you to fix it, all we can do is report it and hope CSS noticed

there are already at least three reports on the QA site, including mine

[frosty gale]

ok lol

[keen vortex]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61bb3f7a831c852052365ddb

the more upvotes the report gets, the more likely CSS is to notice it

[round hollow]

I have satisfactory server running as a windows service by following the wiki. To update the server, since I don't have a running command window to gracefully shut it down, it's recommended to type quit in the in game server manager console. The problem is with the server running as a service, it just boots right back up. If I open task manager and stop the service, it force closes the server. Is there a better way to stop the server gracefully and prevent it from booting? I was thinking of a batch script that gracefully shuts down and stops the service, then checks stemcmd for an update before starting the service again, but it doesn't seem like there is a clean way to do all of this yet, correct?

I know I could have it just run in a command window instead of a service, but the point of the server was to run it on a headless system and being a service allows for it to start again after an update reboot/crash/power failure

Right now the way I have had to update is in the server manager, manually save, quit in the console, then stop the service (witch force quites the server instead of a graceful shutdown) run the steamcmd app update, then start the service again.

[short blade]

Is the service set to Auto start?

[round hollow]

Yes. Isn't that the point of it running as a service? In case if crash or something?

[late coral]

First set the service to "manual", then type quit in server manager console, do the update thing, set service to automatic.

Or just use Linux 🤪
Pre-start executes the steamcmd update before starting the dedicated server.

[clever idol]

Linux is my preference for virtualization.

[quick mist]

and mine for actualization

[round hollow]

I would use Linux. I was originally using a docker in unraid for it, but was running into performance issues on my older hardware so I'm now running the server off a spare laptop

[clever idol]

I definitely recommend checking out Pterodactyl. It's basically a wrapper for docker with a nice UI, but runs smoothly.

[late coral]

If I recall correctly, you can add a pre-start directive to a Windows service as well, witch would fix your problem.

The how, you need to Google

[round hollow]

I didn't have this issue when running as a docker. It's only after I migrated to my spare windows laptop. Better hardware, but didn't want to wipe it and install a new os just for the game.

Think I'm getting it all figured out with a bat file and some scripts tho.

[clever idol]

Mm.. bat files.

Reminds me of 1994 when I was running Remote Access BBS's on DOS 6.2 and Batch.

[round hollow]

It just makes it easy. Shortcut on the desktop to one click the service to be set to manual, shutdown the server, run updates, set the service back to auto and start up again.

[clever idol]

Iirc, I migrated to Windows 3.1 when it came out, and that's when I fell in love with multitasking

[round hollow]

I would prefer to leave it as a docker on my server, but running alongside Plex and a few other Dockers, my hardware was causing rubber banding in game pretty bad

[clever idol]

You have this running on a Plex server?

I would say bandwidth might be a consideration

[round hollow]

I had it running on an unRAID server

[clever idol]

I guess I am not familiar with unRAID

[round hollow]

And bandwidth isn't an issue when it's over lan

[late coral]

Had it running in a Linux VM, ProxmoxVE as hypervisor, on a NUC i5 5250U. Moved the game to a friend's server with a more potent CPU.

[round hollow]

unRAID is like running a JBOD with plugins, VMs, and Dockers.

I honestly could probably shutdown my 7 Days to Die server on it and I'm sure satisfactory would run better. I'd obviously like to build a newer more powerful and energy efficient server, but that's not in the budget any time soon unfortunately

[tepid imp]

Is it rubber banding all the time or just during saves?

[round hollow]

It was all the time

Granted it was a save with 400+ hours in it, but still. Pretty sure it's my older hardware and the fact that the server for satisfactory is new and not fleshed out much

[late coral]

Had my friend adjust the number of virtual CPUs and increase mem from 4 to 8GB, had a slight issue in the area with 36 refineries, 44 packagers and 100 Fuel Generators 😅

[round hollow]

Memory doesn't seem to go above 3-4 the of usage, and it primarily runs off a single core. My issue is I'm running it off a dual xeon x5670 system and those are getting a bit old

[tepid imp]

I've had mine running on a 4770k @ 4.3 its been fine except for hiccups during saves

on debian in a docker container

[late coral]

Serialisation during saving is a known cause of the hiccup

[tepid imp]

tickrate floats betwween 24-40 with 1-3 people on 4 brought it to 20

[late coral]

My 1.6Ghz 5250U was running ok, upto the second space alevator launch, that's when the amount of buildings became too much

My friend is now running the dedicated server on a Xeon 5xxx CPU as well

[tepid imp]

I tried to run it on my nas with dual 2665s but the 2.6Ghz Clock is just too low.

[round hollow]

It ran great for solo play on that hardware, but the bigger the factory got, it would struggle. I died a lot due to lag causing my vehicle to send me under the map

So I moved to a laptop with a i7 7700hk and it runs perfect

[late coral]

The server really prefers high single core clockspeed

[round hollow]

Yup

[tepid imp]

I have a ryzen 2600 thats sitting around but I don't know how it will deal with the IPC imporvment vs clock loss over the 4770, and I dont have a case to keep it in atm.

[round hollow]

I have a spare nib 3400g I was thinking about building a mini itx and run my game servers off that

[late coral]

Last update did include more performance tweaks, and better multi-thread utilisation, so CSS is working on it

[round hollow]

The update out today?

[tepid imp]

I wish I still had my Pentium 3258 Aniversary chip, that thing hit 5.1Ghz only 2 cores but it would be perfect for this.

[late coral]

It would have performed great indeed

[burnt coyote]

running on a 2288g

[oblique nexus]

Hello all. Someone play on a 4netplayer server? since the today update... i can connect, i can move. but when i touch something in my inventory... the game crash instantly ... :/

[tepid imp]

the extra threads on my 4770 are sitting closer to 20% than 10% from before the update, the main thread is still pinned 100%

[late coral]

Even with the 1.6GHz i5 5250U, total CPU performance was not the real problem, just the game maxing out one thread.

[tepid imp]

ya but any additional usage I see on those threads is stuff that was offloaded, that docker container is the only thing running on this Debian Machine.

[late coral]

The game client does the same on my 4790K

It's a unreal engine quirk

[tepid imp]

4790K basically the same chip, as my 4770K excluding that my 4770K is the worse binned thing I have ever seen.

[late coral]

Yep

Swapped my i5 4670k for a i7 4790k last year 😅

[tepid imp]

I have delidded it put liquid metal on/ tried direct die cooling it. I can get it cold it just wont stay stable over 4.5 with massive over voltage, I have Overlocked my friends chip in my board to 4.9 just didn't win the silicon lottery.

[late coral]

The extra threads do make it perform a lot better

[tepid imp]

that is suprising

wait server or client?

[late coral]

Client

[tepid imp]

ya I Immaging the GPU stack is asking for a lot to be done as well.

[late coral]

And with satisfactory probably marginally better, just because of higher clockspeed

Some other games I play, like World of Tanks, and World of Warships really do run better with the i7

[tepid imp]

I never had trouble on WoT with my 3570K back when I had it.

[late coral]

But those are quite likely better optimized for multi-core

[tepid imp]

Star citizen is the game that caused that CPU to crumble.

[late coral]

The i7 was a cheap way to extend the life of my gaming rig for another 2 years

Making the jump to DDR5 with the next system

[tepid imp]

I got a 3600 super cheap just before 5000 series launched, if I need more than this can give Ill probably just look at a 5800x so I dont need to get DDR5 and a new Motherboard unless the performance jump is spectacular.

[hallow night]

Hey lads, im trying to update and i keep getting this.
Error! App '1690800' state is 0x626 after update job.

[late coral]

Doing a life extension Upgrade to a 5800 would be a viable choice

[tepid imp]

what OS you on and how is it installed?

[late coral]

Probably need to force a complete re-install

[tepid imp]

Googled is saying it is a common bug with SteamCMD, try a full reboot.

[hallow night]

ah i couldn't tell if you was speaking to me

[tepid imp]

Yes you. sorry should have replied

[hallow night]

sheet full reboot huh

[late coral]

Reboot, try again it is according to Google

[tepid imp]

looks like the 0x626 is often caused by a folder or file getting stuck flagged as in use

[late coral]

Windows I guess?

[hallow night]

y7e windows

ye*

um i may have found CMD bug

dont try and update while the server is up and running

[late coral]

With Windows, if something won't work: solution is 99% a reboot

[frosty gale]

anyone having issues with belts randomly stopping the connection between its next segment of belts on a server?

[nova cliff]

yep - known issue

[frosty gale]

any known fixes

[nova cliff]

wait for CSS to fix it

or rebuild the belt

rebuild usually gets it going again

[frosty gale]

we just had a belt break 5 times trying to fix it

its been happening but not like tha before

what about hypertubes killing you half way across the map

[burnt coyote]

lol

that happened to me earlier, I think it might be lag from saves and entering the tube at the sametime as a save

[modern escarp]

Hypertubes definitely cause issues during a save.

And belts built while saving won't ever work. So if you notice a save happening, stop building belts until it's done.

[median path]

anyone else having a decent increase in crashes with the dediserver after the update today?

[sacred geyser]

Anyone know a workaround for the foliage bug? Any way to delete the bushes/trees as host of the server?

[drifting otter]

No workaround known yet. waiting for patch.

[sand galleon]

I thumbs up'd your original post 🙂 Thanks ❤️

[quartz oar]

is anyone hosting a server on nitrado?

and can tell me how I update the server to the newest version of the game

[native orchid]

Anyone knows if its possible to revert the update from yesterday to an earlier version?

[storm mulch]

lovely experience with the foliage bug

[native orchid]

Some say.. Its a feature not a bug :D

[storm mulch]

lovely feature indeed

absolutely great

is there no save game editor that can fix it?

i guess i could get rid of all of this, then it should hopefully be removable again

OK, so the same save file in single player doesnt have the trees

just edited the save game and got rid of all FoliageRemoval, expecting them to be back now

and then hopefully the chainsaw will work again

OK, so that works, if you want all foliage back but removable, just edit the save game and get rid of all FoliageRemoval entries

[umbral viper]

I need help for the server because the update does not want to be done

[golden roost]

it's a client bug, there's nothing wrong with the save file. we're working on a fix atm

[weary shuttle]

let your game update. load a saved game. quit game. go to your server desktop site, restart your server.

[umbral viper]

ok je crois personne veut me répondre

ok i think no one wants to answer me

[storm mulch]

yea, I thought it only affected foliage that was removed before, but it appears it affects all foliage

so I guess the bug is two fold: foliage can't be removed + foliage that was removed in the past is back

weird that it works fine in single player though

[golden roost]

it's cos it's a client bug 😛

[storm mulch]

right

just eager to get it fixed myself since I'm in the middle of a build

but I guess no chance

thanks though

[umbral viper]

snutt

[safe stirrup]

I have that issue currently too, maybe its on QA?

[storm mulch]

the upside: unlimited wood and leaves

[umbral viper]

I dunno

[safe stirrup]

doesnt look like it

this is mine

[safe stirrup]

tried updating, cant load a save hmm

nope looks all good to me

I updated in steam cmd but ofc didnt do my file path right, now have a new instance of satisfactory server installed, but up to date

[half niche]

new instance as in you lost your old map data?

[elder crow]

@storm mulch get as much biomass as you can and try if it works for shrooms as well, cause you'll need a lot of mycelia and biomass for filters 😉

there is no easier way then this bug, even if its annoying AF ^^

[storm mulch]

yea, it works for mycelia too

[elder crow]

But I'm sure the team is already hard at work, trying to fix this bug, or otherwise they may rollback to the last version.

[elder crow]

thats perfet, you need biomass and mycelia a lot for filters for the gasmask and later the hazmat suit

use the bug and grab 10-20 full large containers of mycelia and you are done for a long time

[storm mulch]

it actually seems like the trees do disappear at some point

after like 10 minutes or something

not sure what triggers it

[safe stirrup]

Nah didnt loose save data as that is in a separate location

[warped oriole]

Oh its a cosine client bug good to know

[storm mulch]

@elder crow

[tepid imp]

Those poor poor Mushrooms, you monster.

[frosty gale]

Nah. You need the polymer fabric recipe and automate it. Stop relying on hand crafted stuff.

[edgy wigeon]

anyone else's belt animations gone a bit wild since yesterday's patch? I've got stuff coming up out of the floor from below now!

I haven't tried this save on solo yet, so don't know if this is a server only feature or not.

[tepid imp]

the item lifts have been doing that in dedicated since I started using it. also did it when someone with a particularly slow CPU was hosting the save before my group used the dedicated server.

[elder crow]

There's a bug and you get tons of shrooms in minutes, what are you doing without the polymer fabric, is it a normal receipe? Right, sometimes better.... ^^

I usually dont go and farm all crashsites for harddrives in the first few hours ^^

[weary shuttle]

that was for BonkingElephant sorry

[elder crow]

I really hope they can fix the fooliage bug before their holidays, would be annoying over the xmas holidays where most ppl are at home ^^

[frosty gale]

Well, I have to say I consider exploring for hard drives more interesting than exploiting a mycelia bug, but each to their own :)

[elder crow]

I am at polymer fabric myself already, but some ppl are only at the start, and then its a nice little help.
For me, this bug is only annoying and "infinite" wood/leaves is not something I need anyway

[desert bear]

According to the official twitter, they are currently on the problem

#social-media message

[frosty gale]

At least it's not a regression, it's a brand new worse version :p

[low verge]

Anyone else encounter a signal issue after this last patch? Where they signals were all working perfectly for weeks, but this morning we found that most of our 50+ trains had collided, like the signals weren't functioning.

[tepid imp]

networking changes are getting reverted with the newest patch maybe it will fix things for you.

[desert bear]

New version ?!?

[oblique owl]

#patch-notes

[desert bear]

oh didn't see it, thanks

That was a quick fix, gg CSS

[clever idol]

Quick question: we have auto update enabled and verify files enabled.. but this is the second patch now our server didn't auto-update. is there a way for me to confirm that autoupdate is actually active?

[vernal prism]

Is there a reason for the seperation of branches experimental/early access?

experimental is stuck at 174824 -- EA is now 176027

This is an issue as Nitrado only runs experiemental currently - I have surfaced a ticket with them as well.

It would be different if experiemental actually had "experiemental changes"

[clever idol]

I'm sure there is a reason, but it sounds more like an issue with Nitrado. They should give you the option to chose with branch your dedicated server runs off of

[vernal prism]

I agree: this shift happened this week

[oblique owl]

Experimental does have experimental changes

[vernal prism]

EA client worked with experiemental build until the patche on Wed.

[oblique owl]

Packet routing changes for dedicated servers are only on Experimental

[vernal prism]

hmm...

[oblique owl]

You should only ever be able to connect to a dedicated server running the same version as the Client

[vernal prism]

it was same version until Wed

[oblique owl]

Before the latest patch, EA and EXP were different versions

[vernal prism]

Sorry yesterday -- this week is a burr

[elder crow]

Thanks to CSS and the whole crew for that quick fix

[vernal prism]

Build 175911 broke EA working on Experiemental - thus my ask, it appears more features going into EA than experimental.

[elder crow]

Have a great holiday @ everyone

[oblique owl]

EA and Experimental only "work" when they are the same version

[desert bear]

Patch EA 174799

Improved stability of the packet router

[vernal prism]

Uzo - I understand that

[clever idol]

Dedicated Server of Early Access Branch only works with Early Access Client.
Dedicaed Server of Experimental Branch, only works with Experimental Client.

[oblique owl]

EA was 174799, EXP was 174824

[clever idol]

Nitrado should absolutely be able to point their dedicated servers to an appropriate branch.

[quartz oar]

@vernal prism I'm facing the same problem with nitrado rn

[clever idol]

I had to request G-Portal do the same thing, and they did it in less than a day

[vernal prism]

From the outside in - we see "fixes" going into EA which are not reflected on Experimental -

[elder crow]

g-portal is best

using their servers for years now

[vernal prism]

I have a ticket with Nitrado where I am asking then to give us the options for dedicated server to choose which build

[clever idol]

G-portal is great until your save file becomes 8MB

then it blows up

[desert bear]

8MB... waouh

[clever idol]

Unless they highly suck, no offense, then they absolutely should be able to.

[desert bear]

What are the specs of the G-portal server ?

[vernal prism]

I have used NItrado for years and never had a problem - this is the first problem I have had with them.

[elder crow]

well, our savegame is only around 2.3mb currently, so we got some time 😉 @clever idol

[clever idol]

Yeah... we've been.... how do I put it.. staying efficient.

[desert bear]

same here 😄

[clever idol]

To be honest, I'm not fairly sure. I'm pretty sure we only get one cpu though, and it seems like they cap RAM at just under 8GB.

We've recently had to move off of G-Portal and spin our save file up on a hosted Ubuntu server on Azure running 4CPU's and 16GB of ram.

[desert bear]

hmm ok. Do the ram resources exceed 8GB now with your 8MB backup?

[clever idol]

Last night it did hit 8.4GB.. currently we're hoving around 7.19. Admittedly, we just restarted the server.. and only have 1 player on it currently.

[elder crow]

@clever idol you can ask the support to upgrade the server or give more ressources, we had similar issues with Arma3 once and not even 3hrs after the ticket, it had much more power

[vernal prism]

steam is being a PITA - is there a different steamid for experiemental over ea dedicated server

it wont load for me atm to check

[clever idol]

This is good to know. I might check into that. PArt of the experiement was wanting to know just how many resources it would actually need.

At 2 CPU's, the tick rate was pretty bad.. But at 4 CPU's, it improved the tick rate, and pretty much eliminated rubber banding (except on world save).

[elder crow]

tell the support what the issues is and i am sure they find a solution

they have always been really helpful and open to suggestions from my experience

[clever idol]

Yeah I've not had a problem with G-portal. ever

[desert bear]

Did you set the network configuration for the game server with FG.NetworkQuality ?

[clever idol]

yes, we are at setting 3 for both server and client.

[desert bear]

The save time isn't too long ?

20/30 sec. no ?

[clever idol]

2 CPU's, world save was taking around 15 seconds, with a 32 second delay in tick rate (seen from the logging).

4 CPU's, here's the last save that just happened:

[2021.12.17-15.27.19:650][895]LogGame: World Serialization (save): 6.591 seconds
[2021.12.17-15.27.22:032][895]LogGame: Compression: 2.374 seconds
[2021.12.17-15.27.22:032][895]LogGame: Write To Disk: 0.005 seconds
[2021.12.17-15.27.22:033][895]LogGame: Write Backup to Disk and Cleanup time: 0.006 seconds
[2021.12.17-15.27.22:098][895]LogGame: Total Save Time took 9.038 seconds
[2021.12.17-15.27.22:125][896]LogNet: UNetDriver::TickDispatch: Very long time between ticks. DeltaTime: 9.08, Realtime: 9.09. IpNetDriver_2147446685
[2021.12.17-15.27.22:125][896]LogNet: UNetDriver::TickDispatch: Very long time between ticks. DeltaTime: 9.08, Realtime: 9.09. EOSNetDriver_2147482347

[tepid imp]

tick rate is down on me server ... but my temp manufacturing factory no longer looks like it has been abandoned in the jungle for the last 1000 years.

I'll call it a wash.

[clever idol]

I think what would be helpful is an api message back to the client to indicate that the server is about to do a world save and give a 10 second warning, similar to single player. This would, at a minimum, allow the player to expect some wonkiness for a short period of time..or land.. or get somewhere safe, etc.

[desert bear]

Modify how often the server performs an Autosave with FG.AutosaveInterval console command is another way to dilute this problem

[clever idol]

yeah, we've already set ours to 15 minutes from the default of 5

[desert bear]

How many players are playing simultaneously on your server ?

[tepid imp]

I have it set to 30 min but it also does not auto pause.

[clever idol]

it flexes between 2-4

[desert bear]

any idea of the tickrate with 4 players at the same time?

on mine, with two players, the tickrate is already almost divided by 2 (=15)

[clever idol]

I haven't paid much attention.. on the 4 vCPU's, regardless of players, tick rate hasn't been bad at all

[frosty gale]

Hi. I noticed that there is a new update on steam, so I decided to update the server to the latest version, but I got an error that the server works on version 174824 and the game is on 176027. Please help me

[clever idol]

I don't think the tick rate is reporting accurately honestly in the lobby

but I haven't put enough metrics in it to make a solid case.

[tepid imp]

update went out at 1000 AM Est might just have updated in the middle of an update push.

[desert bear]

hmm ok. No other way currently to get this data no?

[tepid imp]

you can view the server manager when your logged* into the server

[desert bear]

yes that is the only way currently

[tepid imp]

Has anyone made a chart detailing when time dilation take effect for the tick rate or is it not directly correlated?

[desert bear]

No

[oblique ice]

Time dilation, what?

[tepid imp]

when the server cant keep up with everything happening so things take longer than they should like a manufacturer making 5/min of something may only make 3 in 1 min.

[oblique ice]

Oh I see, much like low UPS rate in DSP.

Except different causes.

[vapid lichen]

hm the patch from yesterday was better, now the DD takes some time after my connect so i can open storages and build again.

[tepid imp]

seems the same to me but I'm accessing it local atm wont be able to try remote until tomorrow.

[vapid lichen]

after 1 min or so and a massive glitch, i can play normal. The patch fixed yesterday fuxed that. This appeared with the cristmas feature patch. In the end, its playable so idc really

[native orchid]

The latest update is.. Better than sex... seriously

[tepid imp]

... you might be doing it wrong. Have you tried setting it to wumbo .

[mighty flint]

I am not sure, but I am running #175911 and feel as if I can no longer cut down trees anymore since the last update.

[clever idol]

that's because 175911 is not the last update (anymore)

[desert bear]

#patch-notes

[mighty flint]

Roger, roger!

[storm mulch]

@oblique owl with the update being network code related, I'm guessing if I update my game now I won't be able to play until the server has been updated as well?

just making sure because the server won't be able to be updated for the next 8 hours or so 🙂

[oblique owl]

For any update, you must update the Server and the Game

[warped linden]

well, i can grab foilage now but chainsaw has a radius of what im highlighting. anyone else?

[flat hinge]

Does today’s patch clear out all the trees that respawned, or will I need to chainsaw massacre them all again?

[edgy wigeon]

Looks like they're all gone - at least they are for me.

[flat hinge]

Perfect! It was looking like one of those nature “After Man” documentaries!

[drifting otter]

They weren't actually there before. You could usually walk through them, albeit glitchy.

It was a mismatch between the server and client I think.

[boreal flame]

Hmm. Warning: MoveFile was unable to move 'C:/.../FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames/server/..._autosave_0.sav' to 'C:/.../FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames/.../..._autosave_0.sav' (Error Code 0), retrying in .5s...

[kindred violet]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[plucky drum]

ye thx i see

[kindred cosmos]

Hey my server version mismatch with my game version and idk how to update, i just reinstalled the server 2 times

[proven saffron]

Doesn't seems like the new patch is online through SteamCMD

Just did an update of my dedicated server, and it's still the previous version

[quick mist]

only the EA/public branch has gotten these updates:

If you're on Experimental you would not have seen any changes in the past couple of days

[proven saffron]

Yea I run experimental, and got the network optimisation issued version, just thought the experimental would get the 'roll-back' as well

[next vapor]

Is there any solution for client issues during server side saving yet? (like, when the server is auto-saving and taking multiple seconds while clients are unaware and then rubberband or die or whatever when the server is finally done)

[spring shore]

Same Problem here

[proven saffron]

Last Updated: 17 December 2021 – 17:30:59 UTC (17 minutes ago)
Maybe it's online now, will try to run a new update

[clever idol]

Negative. We've changed the frequency of saving to mitigate the frequency of that lock up.

[proven saffron]

Sounds like it need a 'Pause on save' option like Factorio

[clever idol]

@oblique owl - just for a data point, the previous update 175911 brought back the map in dedicated server clients. In the reversal of update, the map is back to being broken. so something in that code base, while breaking other things like trees, does fix the dedicated server map issue.

[next vapor]

back before dedicated servers, I would host a game... and to "solve" the issue I would announce on our voice chat when an autosave was about to happen so that clients could just stop what they were doing until it finished (our world was taking ~20 seconds to save at that point)

[clever idol]

Otherwise have a happy holiday, and enjoy well deserved time off. 🙂

[next vapor]

but, don't have any way to do that with the dedicated server

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61b0d61d831c852052364d7d ... I posted this, but didn't seem to get any traction

[proven saffron]

Got the new patch from SteamCMD now ^^ So update away

@spring shore

[spring shore]

i will try. Thanks

[clever idol]

Earlier today, I commented that a way that this could be done in a dedicated server/client way is that about 10-15 seconds before the server performs a World Save, that an api message back to the client should be sent that kicks off the "Saving world in 10 seconds" that you see in Single player. That would at least allow the user to pause what they are doing, land somewhere safe, or at least have better expectations of experience.

[next vapor]

That's exactly what I suggested in my thing on the questions site

would be a quick and easy workaround

[spring shore]

Its saying that im running the newest Version, but still cant connect

[clever idol]

Thanks Dyno

[spring shore]

xD

[clever idol]

I DM'ed it

[next vapor]

wonder how hard it'd be to find a hook to hack into the binary to trigger like a discord bot to announce auto saves...

lol

[oblique owl]

Map fix and the foliage stuff are unrelated, the latest change did not alter the map fix

[nova cliff]

c'mon steamcmd.. quit being a bugger and update my server >_<

[clever idol]

hrm. ok. thanks @oblique owl then as a data point, the map was broken prior to 175911, worked in 175911, and now no longer working in 176027.

[nova cliff]

Removing -beta experimental from the steamcmd arguments should be enough to swap back, right?

[next vapor]

I had to explicitly specify "public" I think to get it to come back

[nova cliff]

hrm

so -beta public ?

[next vapor]

yeah

[clever idol]

yup

[quick mist]

I need to re-add that to the wiki.

Yes, if you had used -beta experimental than you need to explicitly use -beta public to swtich back

[nova cliff]

thanks ^_^

[ornate osprey]

When running a dedicated server on Ubuntu setup as a service via systemd ... is a 'systemctl restart satisfactory' command considered a 'graceful' shutdown? asking because that's the only way I have to restart the server for updates... is there a way that server manager could be updated to still connect to the console of older server versions to let people with admin rights be able to run the exit command etc without having to login to the server?

[quick mist]

In my testing, the Linux build does do a graceful shutdown when sent SIGINT, which is what systemctl does

but not SIGKILL obviously

The devs are planning on adding an API that will allow for an explicit intrinsic graceful shutdown (amongst other things) in the future without needing the full game client at the correct version, but it's probably going to be a while before that happens.

All that said: when I do implement changes that need to be written to state files (e. g. FG.NetworkQuality and the like), I will make the change, and then quit in the console to be certain the change gets written

[ornate osprey]

I'm more concerned about the actual program updates... like today at 9 am my time I got a ping in discord for a friend "Hey server needs an update" ... said friend has the server admin console so that he can always do saves as needed but if the client updates before the server, he can't send the 'exit' command in the client to have the server process end, and restart, which would then do the update for him...

[quick mist]

yeah, I know the conundrum well

[late coral]

Ugh, version mismatch

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61bcd2a0831c8520523661b6

[midnight dew]

We just got this error too. What is causing it?

[quick mist]

the good news is that when players disconnect, the server does a save, so nothing in that respect gets lost

@midnight dew a fresh update, served today.

[ornate osprey]

Yes, thank you, will upvote

[midnight dew]

Ah, but we already updated the service like 20/30 minutes ago

server

[quick mist]

what versions are being reported in the error?

[late coral]

really annoying I can't have the server reset remotely

[quick mist]

"can't" is a strong word.

[midnight dew]

Let me see if I can cause the error message again

we were already playing and it booted us out

[quick mist]

testing that address is timing out for me as well

[midnight dew]

Is it to do with the update or something else?

[quick mist]

something else: the server is not responding

so that's not a version mismatch; that's a straight-up communication error.

[midnight dew]

Ah, all right. Thanks for the advice so far. Do you have an idea what might be the cause? Or is it unrelated to the game likely?

[quick mist]

likely not related to the game per se unless the game server itself crashed; you'd have to look at the server itself.

[spice dawn]

Hello. I'm trying to setup a dedicated server using steamcmd on Ubuntu. I've installed and launched the server, as well as forwarded the requested ports, but I still can't get a client to connect

[quick mist]

things to check:

• is the server running
• is it still listening on the expected UDP ports
• is the firewall allowing incoming connections on those ports?
• if there is a router, is it still forwarding those ports?

[quick mist]

start with these troubleshooting steps:https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Configuration_issues

[midnight dew]

All right, will check those things! Thanks. It booted us very suddenly while we were playing, so I'm curious what it'll have been

[spice dawn]

@quick mist Thanks, I just finished going through that document before joining. I'll go through it again..

It looks to me like it's an issue with my firewall but I can't figure out where.

~$ sudo ufw status | grep 15777
15777/udp ALLOW Anywhere
15777/tcp ALLOW Anywhere
15777/udp (v6) ALLOW Anywhere (v6)
15777/tcp (v6) ALLOW Anywhere (v6)

[clever idol]

you're missing 2 ports

[quick mist]

did you do the other two ports?

[clever idol]

15000 (default) and 7777 unless you changed it

[spice dawn]

Yes. I just didn't grep for those. 15777 is the port for connection

One sec...

~$ sudo ufw status | grep 7777
7777/tcp ALLOW Anywhere
7777/udp ALLOW Anywhere
7777/tcp (v6) ALLOW Anywhere (v6)
7777/udp (v6) ALLOW Anywhere (v6)

[clever idol]

ahh foiled by grep again

[quick mist]

okay. If you like I can test to see if I can reach the host

[spice dawn]

~$ sudo ufw status | grep 15000
15000/tcp ALLOW Anywhere
15000/udp ALLOW Anywhere
15000/tcp (v6) ALLOW Anywhere (v6)
15000/udp (v6) ALLOW Anywhere (v6)

[clever idol]

and what about firewalls outside of the server?

Dyno's so kind.

[quick mist]

it has its moments, that's for certain

[spice dawn]

If you want to give it a try: 144.202.119.74

[quick mist]

looks good to me

[clever idol]

you've piqued by curiousity Dope

[quick mist]

oh?

[clever idol]

sfping?

[quick mist]

tool I made, let me get you the link. It uses the same protocol the client does to update the server manager before connecting

[clever idol]

neat

[quick mist]

https://github.com/dopeghoti/SF-Tools

[clever idol]

I like scripts

[spice dawn]

Well.. I'll be danged... it connected! That's so weird... I haven't changed any settings in the last hour I've been trying... mostly looking for online help resources.. but now it connected.

Thank you!

[quick mist]

anytime, @spice dawn !

[spice dawn]

Must be your magic sfping tool! 😄

[quick mist]

haha

glad to be of service

[clever idol]

so I assume sfping is a script short cut for the longer python command?

[quick mist]

sort of.

[clever idol]

sym links work too! lol

very neat.. I assume you're sharing, but I always ask for permission. Care if I consume this for my own purposes?

[quick mist]

Absolutely, and I'm delighted to entertain pull requests if you can think of any improvements.

(or indeed just suggestions for me to implement)

for instance, I know that currently as written it does not play IPv6

[vernal prism]

Only enhancement would be using to monitor health of a server: I have a dedicated server on nitrado, I never disconnect due to timeout: florida -> NewYork, but my buddy in Wisconsin disconnects like every 5 min with the timeout - I have even increased the timeout to 60 seconds for him.

so running it non stop

like pingblot

pingplot

[quick mist]

well you can use the non-verbose mode in a loop and parse the CSV data to make a nice histogram if that's your poison

[vernal prism]

yeah, was thinking how I could do that..

[vernal prism]

Cool tool though!

[quick mist]

while /bin/true; do
   sleep 5
   printf "%s,%s\n" "$(date +%Y-%M-%D-%h:%m:%s" "$(sfping host.address.exmaple.com)" | tee serverstatuslog.csv
done

or something

(I haven't written a date formatstring in a while so that might need some tweaking)

[alpine dawn]

oh good they reverted the update

[orchid vault]

hahahaha

[clever idol]

slick

now if I could come up with a script that would fetch the most recent version from steamcmd

[quick mist]

I was looking to find the API to get that, but the build IDs in the Steam Depots do not correlate to the actual reported server version, so the best one could do -- once one has a Partner API key, which I don't -- is to detect changes, but not what the new version number is.

see: https://steamdb.info/app/1690800/depots/

under Branches

[clever idol]

oh I see what you mean

interesting

well..

hrm.

[orchid vault]

just reap the data from that website that shows steamcmd files and versions

[clever idol]

I could do a script where the check would match the buildid to the previous check.. and if different go do something

[quick mist]

I'd rather get it directly from Steam and not rely on the DOM of a third party site I'm scraping ever changing

[clever idol]

right, i'm realizing you just said that

lol

I'm slow

[quick mist]

it's all good; I've already shut my brain off for the weekend and it's not even noon yet

[vernal prism]

scrape the discord announcement page 🙂

[quick mist]

glad to see it working in someone else's environment (:

[clever idol]

yeah super simple

[quick mist]

I try

[clever idol]

I'm sure you've now collected my credit cards, birthdate, ssn, home address, and private keys.. so there you go

[quick mist]

I promise only to use them for good or for comedy.

[clever idol]

LOL

[ornate osprey]

doesn't comedy fall under the 'for good' category? .. and my brain decided to shut itself off when I woke up with a migraine today

[quick mist]

comedy isn't inherently good. see "yes I just said something reprehensible, but it was only a joke" type "comedy" with some detestable people really like

ooo, tasty

[boreal flame]

no deathbox. that's... new.

[quick mist]

yes, that's perfect

[clever idol]

might be slow, but googlefu is strong

[boreal flame]

where's all my stuff

[alpine dawn]

trees ate it

[quick mist]

now to relearn jq to parse that

[clever idol]

yeah so... parsing it..

there's an object called "branches"

[quick mist]

yep

[orchid vault]

-beta public ... -beta experiemental

[clever idol]

it's still early access.. meaning not released.. meaning.. "beta" 🙂

I can't help but notice that "staging" is a build ahead of early access

[orchid vault]

lol

[clever idol]

got someone's attention

lol

[alpine dawn]

likely where they are trying to figure out the network optimizations

and infinite trees

😄

[clever idol]

nice.. yeah I was mucking with jq myself

got hung up on the numerical array

So, how does one start a "timed restart" in dedicated server mode? Where the box on the right pops up and says "Server will restart in.. X time"

[quick mist]

There is not currently a known way to trigger that. That will occur every 24 hours of server uptime

[clever idol]

interesting. some how G-portal had made it to where every 6 hours it was restarting.

[orchid vault]

that is session reloading by the server

[clever idol]

unless the weed was strong.. maybe I lost all concept of time

[orchid vault]

gportal just stop and start it on timer

[clever idol]

Coincidence that experimental updated 30 minutes after I happened to notice staging was ahead of everything? lol

[orchid vault]

it usually is ahead lol

[mortal orchid]

so is the tree bug fixed in experimental and it has the train fixes?

[orchid vault]

load the patch up and see what happens

[oblique owl]

Yep

[mortal orchid]

at work at the moment 😁 it sounds like EA is stable again but doesn't have the train fixes?

[oblique owl]

Experimental never had the foliage bug from yesterday

[mortal orchid]

I gotcha

I run EA, but I would run experimental if the trains are fixed and EA isnt

[oblique owl]

Instead it has the hotfix from today (And the EA patch from yesterday alongside it), plus a few other things that EA doesn't have #patch-notes

[clever idol]

not ashamed to say I took advantage of the hidden Package Game left over when I moved the hub.

[mortal orchid]

I guess my question is if the train fixes are still in the EA patch or were they rolled back? It's a hot ticket item for me

[oblique owl]

Nothing other than the Network Optimisations was rolled back

So yes, the train fixes are in both versions

[mortal orchid]

Awesome, I couldn't figured that out from the patch notes clearly

[ancient kernel]

Thanks for pushing to exp Uzu

[mortal orchid]

And thanks for answering my Q's 🙂

[ancient kernel]

can we expect it to stay == or ahead of EA in the near future or will EA end up ahead at some point?

trying to figure out which one to target for my dedi server

[oblique owl]

EXP is currently ahead of EA

EA should always be the stable version

[orchid vault]

if u just care about playing then play ea

[oblique owl]

^

[vernal prism]

now nitrado is not pulling 176809 😦 I cant win this week

[orchid vault]

exp is for testing patches and you should expect breaking

[ancient kernel]

i typically prefer exp, but not if it will fall behind

[oblique owl]

EXP will usually always be ahead, but ahead doesn't really mean stable

[ancient kernel]

yeah, im not worried about stability 🙂

[oblique owl]

It's very likely that we'll continue pushing patches to it in the future that might entirely break for an entire day or more, for example

We're going to do continuous work on Dedicated Servers there, like right now, there's changes related to them that are still exclusive to EXP

[ancient kernel]

yeah thanks for the additional info 🙂

Hope you and the team have a great holiday!

[clever idol]

Yeah, you've been great today Uzu!

[marsh dawn]

Holiday? 🙃 I still work until the 23rd 😂

[frosty gale]

Can someone explain? I have just updated this.

[vernal prism]

server is experiemental, client you are launching is early access

[timid wave]

my nitrado server isn't updating

[orchid vault]

should ask nitrado to fix your server

[vernal prism]

@timid wave please open a ticket so that we have more than one voice yelling at them.

[timid wave]

usually nitrado need some hours until server updates are live

[orchid vault]

you know nitrado has its own support since you pay them for server

[vernal prism]

I meant open a nitrado ticket, not a css ticket

[orchid vault]

sounds like good reason to not pay them money

[vernal prism]

it was fine until this week, all the builds up to yesterday were available immediately on reboot

[timid wave]

I did that 😉

[orchid vault]

ok so go tell them all about how their service sucks this week

tell them its just cmd line change fix the server

[vernal prism]

I have been.. but its only one voice

[orchid vault]

find a better service then

[livid robin]

is there any way to restore the admin password

[tepid imp]

I just deleted my config relaunched and re-uploaded my save

Then you get the option to set up again

[livid robin]

i triggered some nasty bug.
i restarted the server and rejoined the game. Short after i joined the server again the game crashed and restarted it of course and immediatly joined the server again, but i wasnt timed out yet and sat in a train. i dont know how get out my old character in the train

anyone has an idea for the problem?

[tepid imp]

Anytime I have had an issue like that I just had to slowly crawl the train or hypertube track untill I spotted my crate.

[vast spire]

Did you get a answer from them ?

[livid robin]

my char is alive and because of that i cant get the crate

[tepid imp]

Deconstruct the train should kick them out then kill your double and absorb his power... I mean loot. This is assuming you walked the train loop and your double isn't just sitting in the air levitating above the train.

[timid wave]

not yet

[livid robin]

Deconstruct the train
already tried that but didnt worked because someone sat in

[tepid imp]

Did you check to see if the original still even exists in the save file?

If not all you can do is put in a bug report and move on.

[livid robin]

after i reconfigured the server the character was not anymore to be found in the map editor

[patent sun]

Ok I'm pretty sure, someone already asked but is there a 176089 available for server exp ?

[livid robin]

i try it again to find him on the rails

[patent sun]

@vast spire 👋

[alpine dawn]

yeah they released it today

[livid robin]

the character is still on the train

[alpine dawn]

might need to edit the save with a save editor and reupload to the server...I am pretty sure you can relocate people

never actually tried it but I think others have had to do it when getting stuck under the map

[livid robin]

yes but the main problem was until now to locate the character

[alpine dawn]

ah, thought you said the character was in the train

[livid robin]

yes but the train was moving and because of a mistake of construction he stopped

[alpine dawn]

ah

[patent sun]

so they updated server and client for exp today ? Both in 176089 ?

[alpine dawn]

yes

any time there is an update they do both client and server

never one and not the other

[patent sun]

oO they did the mistake a few days ago on early access

[timid wave]

there is no way to downgrade the client?

[patent sun]

no... I tried 😢

[alpine dawn]

that was still both server and client

[alpine dawn]

what do you mean?

version numbers or branches

you can freely go between early access and experimental

[livid robin]

@alpine dawn when a player is on the train the position change doesnt matter

[timid wave]

version number to match server version. Because nitrado isn't updating

[patent sun]

@timid wave if you want you can download the save, and host the game. Better than waiting tomorrow to have this issue fixed

I'm pretty sure, Nitrado support team will launch update tomorrow.

[timid wave]

Yes, I'm playing singleplayer for now

[warm path]

Anyone ever have an issue where you can't chainsaw down trees/shrubs?

I can't get this foliage out of my building!

[timid slate]

Did the latest patch break dedicated? I keep getting server mismatch notices even though the server and game are the latest versions as far as I can tell :/

[livid robin]

something similiar. for me it was waiting a few minutes and the issue resolved itself. probably communication issues between server and client

[livid robin]

self hosted or managed hosting?

[timid slate]

Nitrado

[orchid vault]

server mismatch means your playing with the wrong version of the game/server

nitrado people should all tell them refund

[timid slate]

But normally Nitrado updates as soon as I restart the server

[orchid vault]

its insane u wait a day for a cmd line

[warm path]

Sometimes I have to run the steam update twice for it to actually take effect

[livid robin]

there was already one with nitrado. as it seems they havent updated yet

[warm path]

I get an error on the first run occasionally - I'd try running the steam update again, or twice

[timid slate]

Hmnm could be steam indeed 🧐

LogOnline: STEAM: [AppId: 0] Game Server API initialized 0
LogOnline: Warning: STEAM: Failed to initialize Steam, this could be due to a Steam server and client running on the same machine. Try running with -NOSTEAM on the cmdline to disable.
LogOnline: Display: STEAM: OnlineSubsystemSteam::Shutdown()
LogOnline: Warning: STEAM: Steam API failed to initialize!
LogOnline: Display: STEAM: OnlineSubsystemSteam::Shutdown()

[timid wave]

that is the response of nitrado

[patent sun]

Oh great

Thanks a lot @timid wave

[timid slate]

Thanks!

[orchid vault]

hahahahahhahaha

[livid robin]

any way to kill a character with a command or set a user to a character?

[orchid vault]

no

you can kill characters in game just beat them til they die

[livid robin]

i cant beat him because he sits in a train and i cant destroy the train

[orchid vault]

you could use save editor SCIM in #welcome to load the save and delete the train

[livid robin]

i tried that too for some reason the train survives that

maybe its the bug which is responsible that the server dont loads the savegame which you selected

[vernal prism]

Nitrado has updated

[barren swallow]

Is it normal to get tons of warnings when launching?

LogEnum: Warning: EnumRedirect for enum ECachedNatType maps 'ECachedNATType::CNT_MAX' to invalid value 'ECachedNatType::CNT_MAX'!

for example

[frosty gale]

I have a problem

And i have already done app_update 1690800

In steam cmd

and also the bat file where i start the server is supposed to automatically update it

And it spent like 20 minutes downloading stuff

And then it said that it is already up to date when i tried it again

So please tell me

how is it still behind

[orchid vault]

server didnt update

[frosty gale]

how can i update it

[orchid vault]

thats the old ea version

[frosty gale]

I did login anonymous and then app_update 1690800

Isn't that what i'm supposed to do?

[orchid vault]

run install cmd with -beta public <- before validate

[frosty gale]

"C:/steamcmd\steamcmd.exe" +login anonymous +-beta public +app_update 1690800 %steamopts% +quit cd "C:/satisfactorydedicatedserver" FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended
Like this?

[orchid vault]

yes ur doing it but u probably didnt set the install folder

u messed up the cmd line

hold on

.\steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta public validate +quit

change the install folder to yours

C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer <----

[frosty gale]

My install folder is correct

[orchid vault]

stop and listen

[frosty gale]

it is actually in C:\SatisfactoyServer

sorry

C://satisfactorydedicatedserver

[orchid vault]

your cmd line was messed up

[frosty gale]

I just changed it now

[orchid vault]

thats a proper line just fix the install folder for your folder

[frosty gale]

and added the public beta

I will

[orchid vault]

use that to update

[frosty gale]

so i should create that folder

[orchid vault]

no

change the install folder to yours
C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer <----

just put the path to your server install

run the cmd line

[frosty gale]

aight

[orchid vault]

u were telling steamcmd to change directories cd "C:/satisfactorydedicatedserver"

[frosty gale]

.\steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta public validate +quit cd "C:/GameServers/SatisfactoryServer/satisfactorydedicatedserver" FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended
would this be fine?

Or should i remove the cd

[orchid vault]

just run the install

[frosty gale]

I can't

it opens and closes

"C:/steamcmd\steamcmd.exe"

I need to put this

in the beginning

[orchid vault]

no open cmd

[frosty gale]

the bat is not in the same folder

ok

[orchid vault]

goto steamcmd folder

run the installl cmd

[frosty gale]

i did it wrong again

[orchid vault]

no idea what your doing lol

[frosty gale]

Ok

so i need to got to my bat file

And launch it

?

What is the install cmd

the bat file?

I started the bat file

And now it's doing a thing

[orchid vault]

looks like its taking a server

[frosty gale]

what?

[dull maple]

has nitrado updated to 176089 or to 176027?

[orchid vault]

haha just check your server?

[timid wave]

to 89, experimental

[dull maple]

alright, good to know

[wraith pebble]

Is there a way to delete a vehicle from the map with a map editor that is not anywhere to be seen on the map, maybe only metadata is still there?

[orchid vault]

use scim in #welcome to load your save and then right click the vehicle to remove it

[desert bear]

is this new on dedicated servers?

never see that before

and after

[alpine dawn]

no not new, its been hard coded to restart every 24hrs

[desert bear]

ok, 600 hours and didn't see that before

[alpine dawn]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[orchid vault]

regular sp game does it also to reload the session for sanity

[sand galleon]

Question... is there any way to set this in config? I don't remember seeing anything on the wiki, but I'll stand corrected if someone would be kind enough to point it out.

Would love to add it as a setting to my Ptero egg if so.

[orchid vault]

its coded into the server to reload session after 24hours

[sand galleon]

Ok, so hard coded, can't be changed with a setting, gotcha

[alpine dawn]

Pretty sure thats what I said

[rancid basalt]

has anyone figured out a workaround for the programmable splitter issues? using a million smart splitters is making me crazy, lol

[nimble linden]

Hello guys. I bought a hosting for a server in satisfactory on g-portal. Saw a tutorial on youtube but it from another version

Does anyone know how to set one of those servers or what do I need to set it up running?

[orchid vault]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[nimble linden]

Thanks!

[wild dew]

Is there a benifit in increasing / decreasing the tickrate? my server is starting to grow larger than it can handle right now

also RAM is only showing about 50% usage but CPU is average about 70%

[tepid imp]

70% main thread or all cores?

[wild dew]

All cores as far as i see

[wild dew]

It spikes really hard when its creating a autosave (every 15min)

[alpine dawn]

what CPU is it?

[wild dew]

I5-4460

Used it from my old PC :D

[alpine dawn]

lol its only slightly slower than the CPU I use for my server

oh wait no I had that backwards

yours is faster than mine

[wild dew]

So you say its normal that it spikes when its saving?

[alpine dawn]

yeah, if you look at your log you will see why

[tepid imp]

The autosave slowdown hits everyone

[wild dew]

Okay. So also I'll have to get used to not moving when respawning or connecting to the server

[tepid imp]

I changed my auto save to 20 or 30 min the default is way to short

but I have it running persistent not just when someone is logged in.

[wild dew]

me 2. running 24/7

[alpine dawn]

[2021.12.16-04.58.14:336][621]LogGame: World Serialization (save): 0.666 seconds [2021.12.16-04.58.16:646][621]LogGame: Compression: 0.864 seconds [2021.12.16-04.58.16:646][621]LogGame: Write To Disk: 1.445 seconds [2021.12.16-04.58.16:647][621]LogGame: Write Backup to Disk and Cleanup time: 1.446 seconds [2021.12.16-04.58.16:664][621]LogGame: Total Save Time took 2.995 seconds

you should find some lines like this in your log

[wild dew]

let me see

[alpine dawn]

your total save will be longer

but it basically tells you the steps that it takes to do a save

and how long each one takes

[wild dew]

Well I just noticed my log file has grown alot xD ....

[2021.12.17-19.09.04:527][921]LogGame: Warning: Build_Foundation_8x1_01_C_2147370464::BeginPlay, no built with recipe set!
it says alot of theese Warnings

[2021.12.18-08.25.09:193][852]LogGame: World Serialization (save): 16.549 seconds
[2021.12.18-08.25.12:975][852]LogGame: Compression: 3.774 seconds
[2021.12.18-08.25.12:975][852]LogGame: Write To Disk: 0.005 seconds
[2021.12.18-08.25.12:976][852]LogGame: Write Backup to Disk and Cleanup time: 0.005 seconds
[2021.12.18-08.25.13:047][852]LogGame: Total Save Time took 20.402 seconds

[alpine dawn]

yeah looks like your proc is struggling to serialize and compress

[wild dew]

Well it has something to progress

[alpine dawn]

lol wow

[quartz oar]

why do I always have the latest experimental version on a nitrado server? I want to play EA

[shell cedar]

Thats a lot. My 2 player save around 150h, new players practicing. Server hardware i9-11900K and Samsung 960 EVO: [2021.12.17-20.16.02:487][782]LogGame: World Serialization (save): 1.061 seconds [2021.12.17-20.16.02:742][782]LogGame: Compression: 0.253 seconds [2021.12.17-20.16.02:742][782]LogGame: Write To Disk: 0.001 seconds [2021.12.17-20.16.02:743][782]LogGame: Write Backup to Disk and Cleanup time: 0.002 seconds [2021.12.17-20.16.02:753][782]LogGame: Total Save Time took 1.327 seconds

[alpine dawn]

I would suggest you contact their support and ask

unless you have command line access we cant help

[wild dew]

Well my Server is running since 11/09 about 500h or so. Nor sure right now

[oblique nexus]

Hi. Someone use a 4netplayers and have the status "Server will be updated" and can't do nothing? no button stop or restart?
Thanks

[full vector]

Probably best to contact your server provider. We don't really know how they do their things.

[oblique nexus]

yeah, i do that in 20 minutes when the help service open. But its just to know if its global or just my server 😉

[misty monolith]

Hello,
i have buy serveur from nitrado but i i have satisfactory on Epic so i can't join my server.
I have link my steam account on Epic but when i launch the game, it said "steam account not connected"
How can i resolve my problem ?
Thanks and sorry for my english.

[quartz oar]

Download the experimental version on Epic and connect to your server

[misty monolith]

i have do this

[quartz oar]

Nitrado unfortnately only provides the experimental version at the moment

I already opened a support ticket

[misty monolith]

yes i know but it doesn't work also with the experimental version

[quartz oar]

It worked for me

Did you restart your Nitrado Server for the newest update?

[misty monolith]

yes

[quartz oar]

and youre still having a version missmatch?

[misty monolith]

in game you have to enter the IP adress of nitrado ?

[quartz oar]

Yes of course, IP address at the top, and port at the bottom line

use the query port

[misty monolith]

yes i enter IP and i have test with all game port i have find and nop it doesn't work

[quartz oar]

you have to use the query port

[misty monolith]

i have test this but i re launch and test

[wintry orbit]

Does anyone have a beginner build factory?

[misty monolith]

the red point is normal or not ? the probleme is maybe here ?

[quartz oar]

Its normal, since dedicated servers are still experimental

[misty monolith]

ok so i don't know where my problem comes from

and i don't know how to link my steam account with satisfactory

[full vector]

You dont need to link your steam account, just enter your server address and connect

[queen wyvern]

is it still necessary to use the experimental version of the game to connect to the ded servers?

[shell cedar]

No, it depens what version your server is, it has to match with client version. On rented servers it depens how they provide it, dunno if any have option to choose. Self hosted you can choose which to install

[queen wyvern]

well, nitrado has a newer version than steam...

[late coral]

Would all be a lot simpler if:
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61bcd2a0831c8520523661b6

[queen wyvern]

only option in the nitrado webinterface is the option to reinstall the game on the server...

i can see no option to change the game version

[late coral]

Looks like experimental server for experimental client (as opposed to experimental server for early access client)

Going by build version, you use the early access client

[full vector]

Experimental is not required, however game version still needs to match the server version exactly. So if nitrado only offers experimental, you also need to use experimental

But you could also run a server for the EA version - but of course your host needs to offer that

[tepid imp]

Stupid question is there a way to pull a server address from my server manager or the command line in game, Switched PC but I don't have the address handy to reconnect.

[late coral]

Maybe from a logfile?

[tepid imp]

Thanks, the server domain wasn't in the log but the IP was so aslong as it's not set up through Dynamic DNS ill be able to just use that.

[plucky drum]

How much co is the server using?

[tepid imp]

co?

[plucky drum]

conexion

[tepid imp]

oh per client it is really low like 16KBps after they get the save file.

[plucky drum]

oki thx

and disk usage ?

[tepid imp]

let me loginto my server and check

[plucky drum]

server side not client

[tepid imp]

My docker container is just under 5GB

[plucky drum]

/s ?

disk usage (data per sec)

[tepid imp]

ohh

[plucky drum]

ye

[tepid imp]

one moment

[plucky drum]

ok

[tepid imp]

Took forever to find, hardly any when not saving mine is writing to ram occasional writes of 3- 16 KBytes (probably Logs) then a large write during auto save or client disconnect. Sorry it took so long not used to reading the atop window.

[plucky drum]

ok

[tepid imp]

the large write for mine is 5.5Mb (the size of the save game)

it is using about 6.8GB of ram

[prime token]

Hi there. is anyone using Pterodactyl server? how to update the server, the version of the server is about 174824, but game version is 176089

[fluid rapids]

I just installed the EPIC dedicated server from the EPIC store and when I try to connect to it from my PC I get a version mismatch error. Game is at 176089 and server is at 176027. How do I resolve the conflict?

[orchid vault]

play on the other version of the game lol.. there is only 2 versions active

[pine lake]

Can someone help me install or get on a dedicated server ive read the guide but im still confused...

[orchid vault]

pinned messages has a link to the wiki page for setting up servers

[fluid rapids]

So what you are saying is the EPIC Launcher version of the Dedicated server is only for the Early Access version. If I want to continue on the Experimental version I can’t use it? The Dedicated Server image has the word ‘Experimental’ right on it. One would think its meant for the Experimental branch.

[orchid vault]

you need to use steamcmd to download exp

its not meant for everyone to play on ... it will be testing stuff that breaks things not new content

[fluid rapids]

I know that, I have been on experimental from the beginning. It’s Just nice to get the fixes (and new bugs) faster than you do on the early access branch.

[edgy wigeon]

I guess it's fair to say Trains are a "bit dodgy" on DS right now. I just tried driving one, and rubber-banding/desync made it unusable.

[orchid vault]

thats more about your server/save\client

[edgy wigeon]

Not to mention the problems with aligning track - which is probably not just about DS

Maybe I need to play with some settings then...

[smoky pollen]

how can i connect to a server in the same lan network?

[edgy wigeon]

IP address?

[smoky pollen]

il try

says offline

[smoky pollen]

.

[orchid vault]

lan ip

and/or fix the ports for the internet

[edgy wigeon]

Hmm... My network setting was on "Ultra" for some reason - methinks that's a bit optimistic as my PC is on wifi. Changing it to medium seems to have helped with the rubber banding at least.

[stray kayak]

So any1 know any good fixes for rubberbanding on dedicated server? like dedicate more ram.. or something we have to live with with dedicated atm?

[orchid vault]

lol

[edgy wigeon]

timely 🙂

[sharp herald]

@stray kayak don't play on someone's home hosted server. I'm sure some of you have good fiber internet but I'm also sure there are plenty of low end DSL players out there that think hosting a server on that slow of a connection is going to be JUST FINE. N, it's not. I've got one hosted on g-portal, works great!

[stray kayak]

om running it on my own home server with gbit Lan fiber

32 gb ram, i7-95960X @ 3.0ghz

[orchid vault]

could check the bug site

[stray kayak]

m2 ssd etc etc.. so hardware and internet connection is fine....

[prime coral]

Anyone know of a way to get the server version and early access version back in sync, especially if you're using a hosted server (like Nitrado)?

[orchid vault]

update the server or client to match the other

or play with the right client

[scenic lintel]

It's a problem on Nitrado

Message support

[orchid vault]

u should take that up with their support then if u pay them

[empty axle]

Is it normal that my server is spamming this?

[prime coral]

This isn't a nitrado issue per say.... It is because they upgraded the server when a new server version came out, the problem is there's only one 'server' and not a split early access server and experimental server.

[orchid vault]

they updated exp so play with exp

there is only 2 versions of client and server lol

[edgy wigeon]

If you're just playing locally, with a local server (like me) then internet connectivity shouldn't be a factor (aside from some DNS issues maybe). I'm not entirely surprised - there must be a fair amount of optimization yet to do - and we saw just this week how destabilizing such optimizations can be.

[orchid vault]

also #patch-notes has the versions so you can figure out what is what

[stray kayak]

Well. then we have to wait i guess 🙂

[scenic lintel]

Aren't the foliage issues happening on exp right now?

[orchid vault]

that was an ea patch they rolled back

hahahaha

[scenic lintel]

Ya I thought they deployed it to exp when they rolled back ea, didn't check tho

[edgy wigeon]

I mean, it's playable but my issue with manually driving trains makes it a less than optimal experience. I noticed earlier the train I was driving had left all its freight cars behind. As I stopped to see what was happening, they all caught up in one rush.

[stray kayak]

that i have seen lots of time

[scenic lintel]

I had to throw a lot more cpu at our dedicated to reduce rubberbanding and vehicle performance

[prime coral]

@orchid vault You are incorrect, there are not two types of the dedicated server, which is the issue I am trying to navigate. Specifically I guess trying to figure out how to roll back to the prior version of the server that works with EA

[orchid vault]

there is 2 clients and 2 servers like i said

[stray kayak]

Then it could be a docker error? as i have no clue how to give it more cpu

[orchid vault]

if ea client wont match then server is exp or not updated

they give you the version numbers in the mismatch error so you can just look up the version in #patch-notes to see what you have

[scenic lintel]

Idk they have different install commands... can you give us the error text exactly?

[scenic lintel]

Can you run htop or smth in ur container and see if the CPU is redlining?

[ivory sage]

Unfortunately, Dedicated Server does not support multi-core. There is no way to increase the performance except by using the latest processor with high IPC. Of course, there is no way to avoid performance degradation if there are more than 4 players or if the game save file exceeds 6Mb.

Until today, I was running a server where 16 people played games, but when the game save file was over 6Mb, the Tickrate for 16 people at the same time was less than 8, so it was difficult to play normally.

[orchid vault]

servers use multiple cores but mostly load 1 down then expand as needed

most of the game is serial work so cant just spread it across cores

[scenic lintel]

Oh I didn't know that - maybe AWS abstracts it with the vCPUs? Bc adding more CPU made the game run hella better

M5.xlarge feels p good on a 18gb save file

[ivory sage]

AWS? That's a waste of money. Even if you mobilize the CPU with the latest architecture from AWS, servers with Ryzen 5000 series or Intel 12th generation IPCs are not leased.

[scenic lintel]

Eh reserved instance is around $40/mo, fine for me

I like having control over all of it too

[ivory sage]

In other words, if the development team does not update the current dedicated server, it will only intensively use one CPU that has been putting in vCpu as many times as possible.

[scenic lintel]

Ya this is normal

[empty axle]

alr ok ty

[scenic lintel]

Oh I forgot, you probably already did this but our server autosave take like 20 seconds, and it will rubberband us when it finishes. Setting it to +20 minutes helped a lot bc 5 minutes is just way too fast

[stray kayak]

that could explain it alot

[scenic lintel]

FG.autosaveinterval or smth on the in-game server console will let you see/set it

[stray kayak]

AND i forgot my auth password......

and solved it XD

[spring shore]

Anyone Know how to fix this?

[scenic lintel]

Is it happening a lot?

[kind sierra]

Good evening, what are the current experiences regarding performance and stability of dedicated servers?

[orchid vault]

they work fine

[spring shore]

i reinstalled my firewall on linux. Since then there is may missing a port. But i did not get it. I opened 15777,7777,15000

[scenic lintel]

Sometimes the ports auto increment if they haven't been released yet you might open up the port range a few more

[spring shore]

i will try

[2021.12.18-17.56.42:163][200]LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection: Server OnlineBeaconHost_2147479097 accept
[2021.12.18-17.56.42:163][200]LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::ffff:My IP]:60764

Yo is 60764 the port which it is using?

[scenic lintel]

That's weird if it is...

[scenic lintel]

Equivalent to regular multiplayer client experience. It's like if every player were a client instead of having a host who is having more like single player experience

[spring shore]

nope its not :/

[scenic lintel]

Oh hey shouldn't it be 15777 in server port settings?

[spring shore]

Wtf is this. I'm using iptables. This is what i opened:
sudo iptables -I INPUT 6 -m state --state NEW -p udp --dport 7777 -j ACCEPT
sudo iptables -I INPUT 6 -m state --state NEW -p udp --dport 15777 -j ACCEPT
sudo iptables -I INPUT 6 -m state --state NEW -p udp --dport 15000 -j ACCEPT

[spring shore]

yes, i think so

[scenic lintel]

Sorry I'm not great at network biz. Maybe try -A instead of -I bc the chain order can get weird and try without the state matching

[spring shore]

I somehow fixed this. There was a problem with my Blocking ALGO/Bad-Traffic Rules

[raven igloo]

LogOnline: Warning: OSS: EOSSDK-LogEOSAnalytics: EOS SDK Analytics disabled for route [1].

[orchid vault]

its just a warning its fine

[raven igloo]

ah ok

thx

[devout idol]

Does the server benefit more from higher single thread clock or does it take advantage of multi-cores better?

[orchid vault]

single core performance helps more

[devout idol]

I've noticed after redoing my base, and making it tons bigger, like lots more containers and machines and the rubberbanding has made it hard to play

my server is local in my house

I can assign more cores to it, but if it won't help, then why bother

[orchid vault]

it can use them but it loads 1 down mostly

[devout idol]

ok

[edgy wigeon]

@stray kayak Are you using the wolveix/satisfactory-server image? I am, and docker stats shows a pretty consistent 150+% CPU usage, which means it's using slightly more than one of the 4 cores of my AMD A10-7700K.

[stray kayak]

im using ich777 docker image

[edgy wigeon]

Ah, OK. Probably won't be much difference in how they work TBH

There could be all manner of compromises made for docker, for all I know - but Valheim showed me just how much docker can trivialize server deployment. Me and a bunch of mates played Valheim for weeks on this server; and mostly - the Satisfactory server has been running OK, but it's pretty rubber-bandy when I'm driving trains.

[sharp bough]

from little experience i had with satisfactory servers, single core performance > all

[alpine dawn]

basically yes

if you want to host several on the same machine lots of really fast cores

but for just one you could do that with a fast dual core I think

XD

[chrome lynx]

Running Centos8 and downloaded AMP (can run in containers) and it takes me 10 seconds to spin up a new server (excluding setting up port forwarding) 10/10 would recommend

[split frigate]

hello, need some help please, got a satisfactory server thru gportal and got it connected thru server manager however it says server name pending not authenticated and wont let me move on from this point\

just says that this server appears to be offline

[orchid vault]

should contact support for who you pay

[split frigate]

ok

[chrome lynx]

the 2 messages you sent are contradictory, you got a message and then it says offline. I've found if I keep my server tab open for a while it'll show up as offline again. You have to click (double click?) and you need to name it and then it'll ask you to create an admin password

[split frigate]

this is what it shows atm, it accepted the server id and port and does nothing after that

[split frigate]

Never mind, I figured it out, for those that run into this issue, the port number in the access block is the wrong port number, don't know why they give it, the actual port number is under server name at the top of the screen right behind the IP.

[honest stratus]

I would be cautious with third party antivirus software. I had McAfee installed on my Windows dedicated server. I went through and allowed all the ports through McAfee's firewall and was still unable to connect. I uninstalled it to test and once it was removed I was able to connect without issue. Just an idea for something to try.

[sharp herald]

McAfee sucks. You know they got caught years ago stealing Norton's code and were sued? Never trusted them again.

[burnt coyote]

You can bypass McAfee in 5 minutes in .net

[silver spoke]

do you have to buy satisfactory on steam to access the dedicated server tool?

[vocal jungle]

no

but sometimes it doesnt show up but you can use steamcmd like in the wiki

[silver spoke]

hmm, how do i make it show up on steam?

[vocal jungle]

you cant your ether lucky or your not

[silver spoke]

ah i think i understand now

[vocal jungle]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#SteamCMD

[silver spoke]

"Coffee Stain is currently working with Valve to make the Dedicated Server visible in the normal Steam client to accounts which do not currently have access to the Satisfactory game client."

[vocal jungle]

yea its wired

do you plan on hosting it in a windows env ?

[silver spoke]

yep

uh

i got an idea from a freind that i can utilise my CPU better

by running a dedicated server on my last 6 cores and the main gain the first 6

[vocal jungle]

good luck with that idea let me know how that works out

[silver spoke]

yep

[vocal jungle]

seams kinda silly in my own thought process but no ever said i was the sharpest spoon in the shed

[silver spoke]

i could probably just toss the server in the last 2 cores actually

[silver spoke]

wdym

thanks for the assist tho

but i would much rather run this on a completely separate node

[vocal jungle]

if your hosting for yourself and other makes sence if you want to do it that way for the 24/7 run/uptime

but if its just for yourself to say boost your performance in a solo game not so much

[silver spoke]

it's for mulitplayer

my fps takes a huge hit when more than 1 joins

[vocal jungle]

makes sense then but a diffent node/system would be better

that still might happen, but it might work aswell i say yolo and do it

just please follow the wiki completely if you do what it says it will work if you skip bits it wont lol

[silver spoke]

hmm

[vocal jungle]

why is it in quats

[silver spoke]

no idea actually

[vocal jungle]

make a Start.bat file

[silver spoke]

i found a dedicated server thing on epic

[vocal jungle]

put in it FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended -multihome=10.10.1.100

[silver spoke]

i think i'll try that instead

GUi would be simpler

[vocal jungle]

there is not gui

inless you use something like AMP or LGSM

[silver spoke]

it's working!

@vocal jungle

[vocal jungle]

will its there but do you get fps drop when your friend joins

[silver spoke]

it's doing fine now actually

but let me get 1 more to join

or maybe you can join?

[vocal jungle]

i am not at my main system i am at work

[silver spoke]

it's a sunday

[vocal jungle]

yes

[silver spoke]

thanks anyway, i'll let you know when someone else does join

[vocal jungle]

i would if i was home

[quick mist]

if you need a guinea pig to test connectivity, I can jump on for a few moments. Just need to know if it's EA or Experimental, and the address.

[silver spoke]

EA

thanks @quick mist , server is fine even with 3 players

[quick mist]

cheers!

[alpine dawn]

@quick mist #off-topic-tech ...I may need more ram

😄

[merry bolt]

i am no longer able to create saves from the manage saves tab of the server manager. Is that a known issue or something local?

[orchid lodge]

i forgot

wheres the config for amount of players

pls help

[merry bolt]

search this channel for MaxPlayers

[weary rose]

How do i fix this when i load into my sever im frozen cant move i kill myself and cant respawn

[alpine dawn]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#How_can_I_have_more_than_four_players_in_my_server.3F

wiki knows all

[weary rose]

@alpine dawn the wiki does not know w to fix my problem so can u help

[alpine dawn]

I havent seen that issue, other people here have mentioned it but I dont know what the fix was

[weary rose]

hmm ok

[orchid lodge]

Thx I found it

[keen vortex]

still having issues with harvesting mycelia in dedi

[cloud beacon]

to uncap player numbers would this work if I change the number can't really tell from the wiki?

[harsh crane]

what software are you using?, also it states you need to add it at the top of the file. you have it on line 6 instead of line 1

[cloud beacon]

I'm using cubecoders AMP. and yes but there was already code there so I should paste it above that?

[harsh crane]

I would say yes the wiki states first line so i would change it. though I cant confirm myself since I don't have more than 4 players playing.

[burnt coyote]

any reason why a dedicated server would sudden kick out 2 players and show the server offline?

the server is running however, even after a reboot it stays offline

I went to bed and woke up this morning and it was back online now back offline

[harsh crane]

did you change anything on the server?

i had mine running for days without issue.

[tall oasis]

so uhm

I'm on EA (client)

I just created a new server

with default settings

so it is EA

yet the client is ahead somehow?

[shadow zephyr]

EA and EXP have their own dedicated servers that match their versions.

[tall oasis]

yes

but I am on EA

trying to connect to an EA server

this makes no sense

[shadow zephyr]

would try and update the server, see if it finds anything

[tall oasis]

well

I just installed it 3 seconds ago

on a new machine

I use this systemd service

maybe I should add -beta public?

yeah I'm trying that

just to make extra-sure

._.