dedicated-servers

[slim spoke]

ur pitching a fit for me talking to someone else

[mossy radish]

If you, like me, switched to EXP server branch and realized what a mistake that is, you're going to continue getting the error about the server version mismatch if you're using the same save. I had to load a save from the previous version for it to work correctly.

[quick mist]

95% of the time, timeout issues come down to port forwarding or one of the computers being a potato

[slim spoke]

tell someone to move the hub to nice quiet area

[storm glen]

@quick mist i had no problems before the update to exp branch of the server

[haughty zodiac]

we have the same problem

[ashen pecan]

Yeah I'm also using AMP to run the server, same version mismatch

[slim spoke]

verify files... restart game.. reboot comp.. cycle power to net stuff

[ashen pecan]

Yup done all that - pretty standard procedure for a server admin

[slim spoke]

restart the server possibly

[ashen pecan]

like breathing air

[toxic ore]

downgrade of the server to normal EA version didnt work btw.

[storm glen]

gonna try to verify my game files one more time... i have done before, and done it with the server files multiple times

[slim spoke]

zuka

what versions u getting for the mismatch

which is newer

[mossy radish]

If you ran the exp server and shut it down, it probably wrote the save for the new server version. I had to restore my backup after I downgraded for it to work.

[slim spoke]

replace your steamcmd and it will install ea version properly

[mossy radish]

It kept telling me the server was on the new version and once I loaded the old version save, that fixed it. I also clobbered my .steam folder after the downgrade appeared to not work but I think that was unrelated.

[small field]

ahh my server keeps timing out, restart server > connect > 5 minutes later times out / disconnects

[haughty zodiac]

seems to be normal today 😦

[sturdy canyon]

wow experimental dedicated servers took a hit this update lol

[opal vapor]

so todays update hit the servers right?

[slim spoke]

exp and exp server got updated

[storm glen]

@opal vapor yeah alot of people with servers timing out

[sturdy canyon]

are people haveing issues with both?

[supple night]

What I'm noticing on the dedicated server I'm running:

• items on belts have visual delays / ghost images; if it shows items on the belt, they aren't always there and if there aren't any items, sometimes there still are items there anyway.
• conveyor lifts don't always attach properly to splitters/mergers/constructors etc. To fix this you can simply attach a belt in between, but this shouldn't be necessary.

Do you guys experience the same issues or is something wrong on my end?

[slim spoke]

that was patched

[storm glen]

@supple night that should have been fixed a few updates back

[sturdy canyon]

i get the same issues

[supple night]

both issues?

[storm glen]

the conveyor lifts

[sturdy canyon]

yes

[supple night]

ah.. i see

hmm i still got those issues i believe

also a weird one i had yesterday.. It seemed like items were stuck when being transferred from one piece of belt to another.. replaced them couple of times but that didn't work.. had to wait like a minute or two before it started transporting those items along the belt again

[slim spoke]

its known on the bug site

[supple night]

ah ok cool, so just have to wait for it to get fixed

[humble lodge]

Please help! I have dedicated for couple of days and every time I try to update, it does do just that but I cannot connect because my game version is higher than my server version. First time I was told to use my steam account which apparently worked by it didnt make any difference second time. It just got updated the next day after I gave up. This is the 3rd time this is happening...... Please help

[quick mist]

Is your game client on Early Access or Experimental? Is your server on Early Access or Experimental?

[humble lodge]

both experimental

[quick mist]

An update came out today. Which CL version are both on currently?

[slim spoke]

play on ea

[quick mist]

This is the current experimental server. your client is on Experimental. your server is on EA. Use the EA client

[humble lodge]

Apparently running experimental from my epic client is not enough.......... what is than? 😄

[slim spoke]

do what i said

or update the server to exp

your server is on EA

your game is exp

[cold bear]

Is the dedicated server software only on steam or is it on Epic Games too ?

[humble lodge]

youre right, Im sorry! So whats the difference betweeen update command for exp and ea server?

[slim spoke]

its on steamcmd

look in pinned messages for wiki link

[humble lodge]

Ive must have missed that

[slim spoke]

its on the wiki

[frosty gale]

It's an extra switch. -beta experimental, from memory. But check the wiki

[slim spoke]

they put a whole cmd line for each version

[humble lodge]

ah

thank you

and sorry!

[slim spoke]

its getting updates constantly so keep checking back on the wiki

no worries have fun

[frosty gale]

To be fair, when I checked the wiki I had to take an extra minute before I spotted it. And I already knew it was there somewhere.

[slim spoke]

to be fair i found it by rolling down reading what the boxes are

[quick mist]

It's literally listed by title in the Table of Contents...

[slim spoke]

lol

[bold atlas]

In the somewhat unlikely event that someone wants to run the server on NixOS, here's a snippet that takes care of everything for you.

{ config, pkgs, ... }:

{
  networking.firewall.allowedUDPPorts = [
    15777    # Satisfactory query
    15000    # Satisfactory beacon
    7777     # Satisfactory game
  ];
  systemd.services.satisfactory = {
    wantedBy = ["multi-user.target"];
    after = ["network-online.target"];
    wants = ["network-online.target"];
    serviceConfig = {
      RuntimeMaxSec = 43200;
      Restart = "on-abnormal";
      StateDirectory = "satisfactory";
      DynamicUser = true;
    };
    script = ''
      set -exu -o pipefail
      export HOME="$STATE_DIRECTORY"
      cd "$HOME"
      ${pkgs.steamcmd}/bin/steamcmd +force_install_dir "$STATE_DIRECTORY" +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit
      ${pkgs.steam-run}/bin/steam-run ./FactoryServer.sh
    '';
  };
}

[slim spoke]

nice ip

multihome isnt needed

[bold atlas]

It is for me. 😛

My networking config is complicated, and I have multiple public IPs on the machine. Only some of them allow traffic to exit.

[pine dock]

Hey together ... what changed again to the Dedicated Server thing that a simple restart of the docker container is no longer enough to update the game version to the latest ones?

[slim spoke]

look on wiki for the cmd line change for exp server

[pine dock]

Client is at 174005 but Server is no longer updating and stuck at 173879

[bold atlas]

Is client on experimental or EA?

[slim spoke]

or play on ea

[pine dock]

you can only play on ea and I play on ea

[slim spoke]

1 u said is exp client

[pine dock]

yes, and server is also experimental

[slim spoke]

no thats ea

[pine dock]

since U5 is only available for exp

[slim spoke]

u have to fix the cmd line for it to install experimental

[pine dock]

srsly rly?

-.-

[slim spoke]

thats why i said look at the wiki for the new thing

all u had to do was copy the new cmd line

[pine dock]

I don't question this stupied way ... better solution should have been to set the cmd line for non-experimental and force experimental to be used

[slim spoke]

no

they didnt want to force everyones saves onto exp

[pine dock]

must first look where and how on the root server ... haven't setuped it ^^

[slim spoke]

so they let that be ea servers

u change to opt into exp servers

[quick mist]

This is exactly how it works.

[pine dock]

Well, I am a person which preferes the opposit way, forcing experimental and who doesn't want it should add smth. like "no-exp" and done but this is a never ending story ^^

[slim spoke]

that would screw people's saves up

they couldnt go back

[frosty gale]

I'd argue that EA is the default in both stores. It only makes sense that it's also the default for the dedicated server.

[pine dock]

Yes, which is a problem ^^

[slim spoke]

no

its perfectly fine ur the only person who has a problem with choosing to screw with exp

instead of the devs screwing peoples saves up

[north dragon]

why?

[quick mist]

..because the server could not write to that file?

what are the permissions of the directory the server is trying to save to, and as what user is the server running?

[north dragon]

I have a user only for the server and it is using its own folder

[opal vapor]

you guys talking about the steamcmd, and I stuck at the installation

[sturdy canyon]

stuck?

[north dragon]

I already found the solution

[opal vapor]

do

1. do I download steamcmd to my server or my pc

[slim spoke]

server

[opal vapor]

2. how to download, i do not find the command prompt. All i have is files and directory to the server

[slim spoke]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[opal vapor]

i am at the page

[sturdy canyon]

you running windows on the server or Linux?

[opal vapor]

Linux

[slim spoke]

it has the install cmd info for both os's

[opal vapor]

where do i open the cmd

All i have is files and directory to the server

[slim spoke]

did u read the wiki

[opal vapor]

and this is what i have

[slim spoke]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[slim spoke]

thats some other stuff

[ember rover]

Peng, you are browsing the incorrect folder

Move upwards (i guess) and look for a .sh file or something.

[slim spoke]

top of the wiki has a cmd line to install server

[ember rover]

It should contain a line starting with something like 'steamcd'

[slim spoke]

steamcmd +force_install_dir ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

goto this page it tells you how to install it

[opal vapor]

i am confused

steamcmd +force_install_dir ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit

where do i put the code to

[slim spoke]

thats the cmdline to install a server from steamcmd

read the wiki page

[pale plover]

Anyone got a clue on this beauty?

[devout idol]

So this update killed my save. I tested by creating a new server world and connected fine. Moved my old save file over replacing the old one and got the same crash 😢

[ember rover]

That should be in the server startup script, which is somewhere on your server. We can't tell where you stored that file 🙂

[opal vapor]

this one?

[slim spoke]

djvj check bug site and post if u dont find

thats how u start the server

[ember rover]

Probably, yes

[slim spoke]

go read the wiki page

[opal vapor]

i did, still have no clue

[slim spoke]

u just install steamcmd and run cmd

it installs server and you fix the ports

then run the cmd to start it

[opal vapor]

how do i move it to server? download the windows version and installl it then move it to server?

[slim spoke]

wiki has the lines to copy

[icy field]

When will the dude who programmed the trains in this game get fired?

[slim spoke]

windows use the windows cmds

[devout idol]

looking for the bug site, don't see it on the wiki

[hushed gate]

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports at https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/ - <3 @slim spoke

Nov 26, 2021, 9:58 PM

[slim spoke]

there ya go

[opal vapor]

you were talking about this one right?

[ember rover]

Can't help you with that, it's your server and I'm a Windows server operator 😉 But normally you would SSH into your server and upload files with something like SFTP or fetch the data using WGET. How did you get it up and running the first time? You had to copy files over then as well

[opal vapor]

just rent it from the host website

[sturdy canyon]

@opal vapor do you have command line access or is it all web based?

[slim spoke]

yes that page tells u how to get steamcmd

[opal vapor]

no, I dont have the cmd line

[slim spoke]

and then the cmd line to install the server using it

[opal vapor]

the closest one is this

[slim spoke]

im done good luck peng

[sturdy canyon]

lol

[opal vapor]

i think my problem is to find where is the cmd line

[sturdy canyon]

ya this not going to be easy to walk though

[ember rover]

Maybe, just maybe, you can ask the hosting to help you out. Seems hosting specific. Or stay on EA 😉

[sturdy canyon]

you should try talking to the help on there site

[opal vapor]

tried, being 3 hours with no response😅

[feral dawn]

Usually hosting companies will not give you access to such command lines, you'll have to raise a ticket or speak to live chat, if they have it.

[opal vapor]

so, if I have the cmd line, then I type the installation code to install it right?

[ember rover]

Yes, but you have to make sure all paths are correct for that server setup or it wont work, or wont work after a server restart. I recommend not to mess with it without knowing what you are doing.

[slim spoke]

guess which discord doesnt do hosting company support

[opal vapor]

kk

i see the problem is

[slim spoke]

if i knew those pics were that i would have stopped it long ago

i dont have my glasses on

hopefully its just the time u msged and they get to ya soon

[opal vapor]

yea but thx trying to help

[brittle wedge]

Game mismatch - game ver. 174005 server ver. 173879 attempting toupdate server in steamcmd returns: Success! App '1690800' already up to date.

[sturdy canyon]

steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir ~/game/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate +quit

WARNING its been very buggy for me

ive had to switch to hosting off my PC

[brittle wedge]

deadstar is that directed to me to try?

[obsidian gyro]

Anyone have a good way to downgrade from the newest experimental dedicated server to ea dedicated server?

[sturdy canyon]

yes if your running experimental branch

[brittle wedge]

ty

[obsidian gyro]

I've tried to run the normal update route without the -beta experimental, but it validates and does not reinstall

[slim spoke]

replace ur steamcmd then run the install cmd

[sturdy canyon]

good luck

[cobalt shard]

ooof version mismatch. steamcmd reports the game is up to date my client, as well as other player's clients are saying otherwise.

[slim spoke]

005 is exp

[gray lintel]

I'm getting the version mismatch as well but everything is saying its up to date

first time its happened since dedicated server was released

[slim spoke]

just need to update server or play on ea game

[obsidian gyro]

Experimental Dedicated Server is now Early Access, if you have been playing Experimetental on Steam/Epic you need to move to the Early Access

[cobalt shard]

I created the dedicated server two days ago. After the update dropped.

[obtuse cargo]

didn't they just open up experimental again

[cobalt shard]

I assume that's not experimental

[obsidian gyro]

yes they did

[gray lintel]

Been playing dedicated server since it was released. Updated regularly. Of course the version mis-matched happened all the time but an update would fix it no problem. This is the first time it appears there is no update available but the version is still mismatched

[sturdy canyon]

steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate +quit
WARNING its been very buggy for me
I've had to switch to hosting off my PC

[gray lintel]

oic - experimental is back out so my client has updated but my server hasn't moved on - gotcha - let me try that.

[sturdy canyon]

dont just copy paste this is my install path

[obtuse cargo]

good to know. i moved to EA everywhere but i may move back to experimental. might setup two different services.

[karmic pendant]

app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate just this workd to update

[cobalt shard]

OK but what if you're not running the experimental?

I'm having version mismatch (assuming I'm not running expiremental) and the update says the game is up to date

[sturdy canyon]

steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 -validate +quit

... i think lol

[quick mist]

had you previously been explicitly pinning the server to Experimental?

[slim spoke]

see lawn mowing simulator wasnt so crazy lol

[nova swallow]

How do you reset the administration password for satisfactory game server

using linuxgsm

[quick mist]

see the Wiki

[nova swallow]

the satisfactory game wiki or the linux gsm page one?

I looked on both and I cant find info

wait no im dumb

[nova swallow]

yeah i know i found it

[sturdy canyon]

lets see how my copy pasta looks

fail

[onyx sky]

cleared everything out and still getting a server client mismatch

[quick mist]

What version of server and client?

[nova swallow]

yeah no wonder i couldnt find it

[karmic pendant]

if u run experimental u gota do app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate

[quick mist]

You are trying to connect an Experimental client to an EA server. Use the EA client.

[quick mist]

Please just point people to the documentation. If you're going to give an example at least ensure it is correct.

(or fix it like you did)

[meager summit]

lotta people not reading the patch notes properly lol

[sturdy canyon]

who would do such a thing

[quick mist]

lotta people not reading the patch notes properly lol
FTFY

[north mirage]

so dont a update and it not updated ??

[onyx sky]

im using steam server on a ubuntu box and steam client. dont even have the EA version.

been working fine for the last 2 weeks until now.

[karmic pendant]

just cus it defaults to EA

[slim spoke]

dedis became ea servers

[slim spoke]

and didnt take the last update cause its for exp

[sturdy canyon]

New SteamCMD for experimental build.

steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate +quit

⚠️ WARNING ⚠️ Its been very buggy for me. I've had to switch to hosting off my PC
⚠️ Don't just copy paste, this is my install path

[north mirage]

joys of a server

[quick mist]

"EA" meaning "Early Access"; not "Electronic Arts"

[sturdy canyon]

whats the offical website for patch notes

[north mirage]

the wiki has chaged its update path

.\steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit

trying it now will let ya know how it goes

[sturdy canyon]

@north mirage are you wanting to run Experimental or Early Access branch?

[north mirage]

we was runnin it on exprimental but i playes dont mind jumping so dont matter to me

if it works it works

[north mirage]

so yeah more reading that is for the early eccess

[onyx sky]

ya just needed to add the -beta experimental flag to my startup script

ty @sturdy canyon

[sturdy canyon]

good luck

[cobalt shard]

OK

BUT

FOR EARLY ACCESS

WHAT TO DO?

Version mismatch for early access. What is the resolution? I'm not moving to expierimental.

[inland sequoia]

pls help me

[quick mist]

no need to shout; the acoustics in here are fantastic.

You're saying you have a version mismatch. Which version are your client and server using?

[sturdy canyon]

let me run a test for you

[cobalt shard]

I did a force_install_dir and it's apparently reinstalling

sooooooooo guess we'll see what I end up with

[sturdy canyon]

thats not what thats for

thats only for changing where it gets installed

[cobalt shard]

well app_update was telling me the server was up to date, yet my client (and other player's clients) are reporting the server is not up to their version

[quick mist]

Again: You're saying you have a version mismatch. Which version are your client and server using?

[cobalt shard]

I don't have that information right now.

The server is reinstalling

[quick mist]

that's rather important information with which to attempt to assist.

[cobalt shard]

we'll see where I land soon enough

[sturdy canyon]

did you already install the experimental version?

[cobalt shard]

no, early access

[sturdy canyon]

humm

[alpine dawn]

interesting they consolidated the ports on the server

that should help significantly

[quick mist]

provisionally

hopefully it sticks

[sturdy canyon]

where you guys read that?

[quick mist]

#patch-notes

[alpine dawn]

I went to fire up my game like 2 min ago and it was like uhh you need to update the server

fuuuuu

[fickle lake]

is there anyone can tell me how to use dedicated servers

[sturdy canyon]

oh, is there a website for patch notes

[alpine dawn]

so I checked patch notes

[sturdy canyon]

my google foo has failed me

[quick mist]

The wiki has extensive details

[alpine dawn]

its a discord channel

[fickle lake]

can you link me

[violet cosmos]

Instead of updating your server you might want to just migrate your client to early access

[quick mist]

check the pins

[sturdy canyon]

yes i know im asking if theres an offical patch notes page

[south current]

So why are we having to run a command to update Experimental servers?

[quick mist]

Because by default the servers rolled to Early Access when U5 went live in EA

one can expect to have to do periodic Science on experimental platforms

[violet cosmos]

I’m having trouble with the latest experimental dedi server

[old osprey]

What info do you need to send your friends to be able to join your server?

[slim spoke]

ip

[quick mist]

your server's IP address and, if you altered it, the Query Port

[old osprey]

Ok thank you

[south current]

OK cos I'm not hosting mine its on a hosting site, So would they change auto too?

[quick mist]

that's a question only your hosting provider can answer

[alpine dawn]

no clue we cant support other peoples platforms

[south current]

ok no worries

[cobalt shard]

Well guess what @quick mist . Reinstalling worked.

[sturdy canyon]

lol thats what im in the middle of doing

[slim spoke]

lol

[quick mist]

reinstalling will often "work" but it leaves much to be desired in terms of determining what went sideways in the first place.

[south current]

OK all sorted, Thanks for the help host has switched to EA too

[north mirage]

right so me update line works for the early access brach perferct

[sturdy canyon]

what?

[devout idol]

Same error I have and it seems to have corrupted my save. Posting a bug report atm

[alpine dawn]

ooof well the new patch is crashy

[devout idol]

posted my report: https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61a171ae831c852052362225

[ornate osprey]

I'm having similar issues with my dedicated server I have going for a couple friends

[sturdy canyon]

ok @cobalt shard had a good question. I just tried installing Early Access branch on my server with the SteamCMD command on the wiki
steamcmd +force_install_dir ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit
After installing and running, I cant connect with EA Client but can with EX Client

[ornate osprey]

What I've noticed is that if you already had the latest EX build installed using the updated command from the Wiki it won't go back to the EA build... I even tried removing the Satisfactorydedicatedserver folder

[sturdy canyon]

what I think is happening is its still using other folders outside the install directory

or not don't see any files in the .config/Epic/FactoryGame folder that would indicate settings

[uneven mountain]

What is the steamcmd +app_update number for early access dedicated server? I assume it's different than experimental.

[sturdy canyon]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

steamcmd +force_install_dir ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit

that's the Early Access branch not the experimental

[coral vale]

So, I have my server hosted through a third party, and they auto-updated to the newest version earlier today. This created a version mismatch between my steam client and the server, been waiting all day for steam to push a new update. Tried adding/removing myself from betas to prompt game file redownload, uninstalled, reinstalled, and verified files locally. Server is on version 174005 when my local client is stuck on the earlier version 173879. Anybody have any idea how to force an update to the game client on steam? Or what could be done to fix this besides just sitting on my hands and waiting?

[alpine dawn]

they are both the same

[alpine dawn]

to get experimental you add -beta experimental

[sturdy canyon]

he probly dosent have command prompt access

[violet cosmos]

to switch back from beta to EA I think you add -beta default

[safe delta]

The third party updated to the experimental version, which is version 174005. You can play the server by switching to experimental.

[coral vale]

Oooooh, interesting that they'd do that. Gonna turn auto update off and just update manually from now on, lol. Thanks, swapping game mode to verify now! Thanks!

[safe delta]

Np

[quick mist]

you can force the SteamCMD client to use the EA branch with -beta public and keep updating automagically

it should do that by default but who knows what hosting providers do to muck things up

[sturdy canyon]

so is the following correct to install Early Access version if the Experimental ver is already installed?

steamcmd +force_install_dir ~/game/EASatisfactoryDedicatedServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate -beta default +quit

[uneven mountain]

does the early access and experimental dedicated servers pull from the same save game directory when started?

[sturdy canyon]

yes

[uneven mountain]

cool, thanks

[sturdy canyon]

or at least it should i haven't verified that

[opal vapor]

how to ban people?

[sturdy canyon]

tell them to hit Alt+F4 to hack!

[opal vapor]

😅

[sturdy canyon]

well theres always server passwords

[opal vapor]

ik, just in case some nasty guy got in

[uneven mountain]

I see they got modding working for U5. Should it work when connecting to dedicated servers?

[sturdy canyon]

Yes that is how you switch back

[wide ledge]

How do you create a dedicated server?

[sturdy canyon]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[frosty gale]

Getting a lot of crashes all of a sudden. This was no issue for me prior to the latest patch. Hopefully it's not just me and they get swamped with enough crash reports to figure it out.

[sturdy canyon]

it is buggy

[alpine dawn]

yeah I am having a ton of them as well

hopefully the crash reporting is working in the server because from what I have seen the server isnt actually fully crashing

it times out everyone connected and then I check on it and the process is still running

[native fjord]

for me the crash happens anytime the game tries to save, it takes more than 1 second and crashes for being too slow..

[sturdy canyon]

New SteamCMD lines.
~
For Experimental Branch.
steamcmd +force_install_dir ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate +quit
~
For Early Access Branch. (or to switch back to early access)
steamcmd +force_install_dir ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate -beta default +quit
~
⚠️ The Experimental Branch has been very buggy for me. I've had to switch to Early Access.
⚠️ Don't just copy paste, this is my install path

[untold raven]

my server is waiting for the update to be pushed through so it can update? any way i can do this i use ZAP hosting

[alpine dawn]

contact your provider and ask them

[sturdy canyon]

ask ZAP Hosting

[untold raven]

they just say waitng for the update

[sturdy canyon]

update is out

[alpine dawn]

update happened many hours ago

[untold raven]

its never had issues auto updating yet this one has not done it

[slim spoke]

tell them they have to switch the cmd line over to experimental

[untold raven]

unless i can access that file on FTP side

[sturdy canyon]

you have command line access?

[slim spoke]

they have to run installer for exp server

if u want to be on that

[slim spoke]

you install the exp version and just run the server

but we dont do hosting place support

[sturdy canyon]

unless where nice lol

[quick mist]

Manage Session

[surreal geyser]

Having the same issue now - I'm not sure why steam doesn't have the update yet

[slim spoke]

it does

exp updated and the server and if u want exp server u have change the cmd line like the wiki has

[surreal geyser]

We've been using experimental for the better part of a month now

not sure what's up with the state

[slim spoke]

exp servers are now EA

so they are behind exp game

if ur server is 389 or whatever at the end then its ea

005 is exp

[quasi kettle]

The server has an exp branch

[surreal geyser]

We've been on experimental since U5 dropped in october, I haven't touched the server configs

[slim spoke]

stop and read

servers changed to ea servers

[quasi kettle]

Then you need to switch to experimental probably on the server checkout.

[slim spoke]

if u want to use exp server you have to change the install command line

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

look at the wiki and cmd lines

[rich void]

Richard, the dedicated server got released on experimental branch. Once all the major bugs and stuff are taken care, it goes to Early Access. The servers and U5 came to early access this week's Tuesday. If you did not add the command line switch, your server will be Early Access version.

[surreal geyser]

Apologies, this is a 3rd party host - my experience with commandline is very limited 🙂

[slim spoke]

tell the hosting company they need to change it if u want exp

[surreal geyser]

perhaps I should change my client back to EA

I have a feeling putting in a ticket will take a while 🙂

alright switching the client to EA works - thanks for the help!

[quasi kettle]

Thanks for dropping to 1 port forward!

[balmy pier]

ight this is a lot of jargon but what i am understanding is the reason my server wont update is because it is now by default using the Early Access line instead of the Experimental line?

[grizzled sundial]

are people still timing out on the experimental servers? ours was stable and now I just get Unet Connecton error

[slim spoke]

yes robot

just look at the wiki it should make sense

[quasi kettle]

... set the branch to experimental on the server if you want to be on experimental

[alpine dawn]

this latest update on experimental made my server unstable with more than 1 person in it

[grizzled sundial]

thanks greg. I cant even get past the timeout error soem peoiple above are reporting.

[alpine dawn]

yeah once it times people out I have been having to go in and manually force it to restart

but with only a single person in it there are no issues

kinda defeats the purpose

[carmine jay]

I guess I can't trick the train AI to unload the last car in the platform by adding extra cars to the end. :/

[quick mist]

the locomotive always stops at the Station; the loading/unloading platforms would then be aligned with the cars you wish to load/unload

[carmine jay]

I know but it's ignoring the third car in the train.

I can load the third car, just can't unload it.

the platform remains empty.

one train will unload 2 cars, the other just one.

that last car in the chain has stuff in it.

[severe badge]

I've had to rebuild stations to get them to work

[carmine jay]

tried that in SP. made no difference

didn't try rebuilding the platforms...

[severe badge]

Yeah, I should have specified, I mean the station and all platforms

It seemed to be happier when I placed the station and the platforms without any existing rail underneath, THEN connected the ends to the rest of the track

[peak ice]

So I am getting Lognet spam when I try to connect. But it just says the server is offline on my client

[wide shale]

Hey is there ayone who can help me setting up my server, running into some issues

[carmine jay]

@severe badge should I do that for every station in the game? can it be done on the dedi server?

[quick mist]

define 'some issues'

[quick mist]

sometimes when stations get particularly rude, you have to pull them offline and fix them there

[wide shale]

NAT detection failed, EOS SDK analytics disabled and when i load the game it says server is offline @quick mist

[severe badge]

I've only had to do this once, for one station

[quick mist]

The two messages you refer to are innocuous warnings taht can be ignored. The server offline issue can most likely be resolved by working through these troubleshooting steps:
https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Configuration_issues

[peak ice]

Can someone explain to me why this is happening?

and it still says on the client that the server is offline

[rich void]

seems like firewall blocked on the return trip.

[peak ice]

I have inbound and outbound open for all ports

on the router and windows firewall

well, all necessary ports anyway

[rich void]

on the client side, any ports being used. It looks like the client is attempting to try multiple ports besides the default. Not sure of the other possibility

[peak ice]

Im trying to use port 7778 since I have Ark using 7777

I added the -port 7778 to the batch file

-port=7778

[rich void]

are you on EA or EXP, right now?

[peak ice]

client side EA 173879

[rich void]

talking about server side but ok

[peak ice]

I tried running ea first, now trying experimental

[rich void]

if you are using EXP server still, they changed the ports a little bit and may be part of the problem

[peak ice]

what ports is the EXP server using?

This is my first time trying to get a satisfactory server running

[rich void]

did you use the -beta experimental in your batch file or not?

[peak ice]

the second time yes

[rich void]

ok, then if that the case, try with the EXP client.

However, the log indicated that it was sending data back to the client but you are not receiving it, so it is being blocked somewhere along the way back.

[peak ice]

ok ill look into that, how do I get the experimental client?

[rich void]

are you using Epic or Steam for the game?

[peak ice]

steam

[rich void]

ok, you will need to go to the game properties and join the beta branch named experimental. However, that'll be a full download for that

[peak ice]

Alright, I'll give that a try. Thanks for the help

[rich void]

yeah, i don't think you need to swap, I just think there an issue with the network settings, thats all

[carmine jay]

hmm, so build train stations/platforms on SP and not on dedi for now. now my trains load and unload as expected.

[quick mist]

My server has, I think, six stations, and only one did one 'jam' and need to be fixed up locally

[silver cypress]

hi guys I'm stuck here

The server is definitely online, but I can't join, just me.

Is there anything I can do?

[carmine jay]

restart stuff?

idk, I encountered that with one of my saves and deemed it unsuitable for the dedi service. I have a different save I run on my server though.

[silver cypress]

I've tried reinstalling, rebooting, and deleting configuration files.

server is starting with completely new data.

[peak bloom]

Still no news on how to get DS on Epic?

[elfin steeple]

hey guys i set up a dedicated server and im trying to get my buddies in it. what do i give them to for an address to join in?

[winged dock]

If you are running a DDNS setup then you give them that address, if not then you need to give them the computer running the servers external IP address and have the ports forwarded to that computer on the router.

[hasty terrace]

So when I join my friends server it says connection lost to host

But his hosting it on a dedicated server

[elfin steeple]

i think it might be his ports

i had to go and forward the sat ports so he will too most likely

[devout idol]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61a171ae831c852052362225

Only thing is if I create a new server, I'm good, just with old server world I have a problem.

[wheat cloak]

I have the epic version. How can I start a server?

[golden jolt]

How to reduce server memory usage

[alpine dawn]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[ornate osprey]

Shiro, that's a normal amount of RAM usage for the server. The server I run that gets a couple people into it at a time can get up to 8-10GB of RAM usage.

[alpine dawn]

@ornate osprey are you on EA or EXP?

[ornate osprey]

EA right now... we were running EXP until this newest build

[alpine dawn]

oh ok

yeah I think I need to do that

jump off the EXP

[ornate osprey]

the current EA seems to be a lot more stable than the EXP at this point... we tried using both today now that there is an EXP build of the dedicated server

[alpine dawn]

yeah I am on EXP and after todays patch it broke

can only play if there is only one person connected

if 2 people connect it times them both out

and then I have to restart the server

[ornate osprey]

yup sounds like the problem we were having

ended up having to remove the dedicated server folder from the ubuntu server and some of the steam files to make it properly re-install down to EA

[alpine dawn]

I havent even looked into the downgrade process but yeah that kinda doesn't surprise me

[wheat cloak]

So the answer is its impossible,. Got it

[alpine dawn]

what is your specific issue?

[wheat cloak]

... I got the epic version...

[alpine dawn]

so

so do I

whats your point

[wheat cloak]

Read it yourself >>

[alpine dawn]

if you read the wiki steamcmd works for all versions

no login required

[sturdy canyon]

what you trying to do?

server downgrade?

[alpine dawn]

I assume they are trying to setup a dedicated server and are confused that its not available on epic

[wheat cloak]

Cause it isn;t its only available in steam

[ornate osprey]

@wheat cloak you don't need to buy the steam version to run your own dedicated server via steam... you can run steam dedicated servers at no charge and connect to them from the Epic version

[quick mist]

Succunctly: the server does not care which storefront from which the client was purchased.

[sturdy canyon]

so what are we trying to do?

[wheat cloak]

I don't see it on the list. Do you?

[alpine dawn]

its all command line using steamcmd

[wheat cloak]

if you navigate to where the dedicated server is installed. Well it isn't, nor can I get it

[alpine dawn]

yeah I know

[ornate osprey]

RTiger, have you installed SteamCMD?

[wheat cloak]

\

[alpine dawn]

in other words you pretty much have to use steamcmd if you dont own the game via steam

[ornate osprey]

This is to start the server... first you have to follow the installation procedure

which involves installing steamcmd

then running the install command for the server

so have you installed SteamCMD?

[bright charm]

where can I find game.ini the wiki refers to? It doesnt seem to exist?

[quick mist]

It will exist once the server has been started, a world instantiated, and then gracefully shut down (at which state files such as it are written to disk)

[bright charm]

thanks Dope. Do you know what folder? We started and logged in, but 5th player cant get in, so trying to increase it as per wiki. Do we need to do the shutdown graceful step?

[ornate osprey]

evopwr, are you running in Windows or Linux?

[bright charm]

windows

[quick mist]

from the install directory, then, look in:

[ornate osprey]

FactoryGame\Saved\Config\WindowsServer\

[quick mist]

%installdir%/FactoryGame/Saved/Config/WindowsServer/Game.ini

[bright charm]

awesome thanks mate, appreciated it

[quick mist]

o/

[bright charm]

west.....

oops wc

[golden jolt]

@ornate ospreyBut it will automatically reduce memory usage

[ornate osprey]

That looks like the server booting up. I haven't seen a fully booted server running below 4 GB of RAM... as soon as you have a few hours building things in there it tends to increase

I know the server reboots itself once a day

[quick mist]

mine's currently allocating 6GB but only using about 4:

[ornate osprey]

and also that could be the server pausing the game when no one is connected?

[alpine relic]

manually input value of valve threshold does not work on dedi server?

[sharp geode]

curious... 4 vs 2 virtual cores?

[signal solar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/761949235024363530/914076332416192512/unknown.png

Hmm, is the dedicated server up on steam up to date with the client?

We're running steamcmd update validate and it's not pulling the same version

[alpine relic]

check wiki

it defaults to EA branch now, you'll need to add -beta experimental to switch.

[signal solar]

Ahhh, makes sense

Thanks so much!

[alpine relic]

yw

[icy field]

How can you solve the problem of disconnecting clients while saving a large save?
[2021.11.27-07.54.02:369][317]LogGame: World Serialization (save): 64.135 seconds
[2021.11.27-07.54.05:113][317]LogGame: Compression: 2.734 seconds
[2021.11.27-07.54.05:113][317]LogGame: Write To Disk: 0.007 seconds
[2021.11.27-07.54.05:232][317]LogGame: Total Save Time took 67.000 seconds

[azure dagger]

in case anyone running into this "timed out" error on connect (on the latest EXP build), i figured the problem might be related to the "--multihome=" parameter that was added in order to fix a crash introduced in patch 5.0.6. remove this parameter and restart the service seems to fix this

[slim spoke]

hahahahahahahahha

[neon harbor]

are these ports open?

[keen vortex]

use faster disks

[slim spoke]

most likely cpu is potato

[keen vortex]

although really the issue is the serialization time, probably need more resources on the machine

[slim spoke]

the actual write to disk was fast

[keen vortex]

agreed, potato server is the most likely reason

[slim spoke]

its 1min of serializing the save

[keen vortex]

make sure you have enough ram, especially

running the server executable from a ssd (or ramdisk if you don't have one) is also a good idea

so that swapin doesn't have to wait on a spinny

[silver cypress]

Port on the server side is open, and host and 2 other friends are able to join.

[keen vortex]

[2021.11.27-10.20.12:231][568]LogGame: World Serialization (save): 0.462 seconds

[slim spoke]

defender, firewall, av or something is stopping the client then

[keen vortex]

admittedly my save is probably smaller than yours, but still....

but i'm running on a ryzen 5 2600X with 32GB, and there's plenty of free memory (even with a minecraft server also running on the same server)

[icy field]

The problem is not related to disk speed:
LogGame: Write To Disk: 0.007 seconds

[keen vortex]

yes, we figured that out

[rose valley]

are you on experimental?

[keen vortex]

the experimental server only uses a single port now

[icy field]

What is the save size?

[tardy orchid]

is steam missing the new patch because i reinstalled the server game files and its still version missmatch ??

[keen vortex]

1.32 MB

[icy field]

15 Mb

[keen vortex]

that shouldn't take more than 8-9 seconds to serialze

probably less

what's the specs on this box?

[keen vortex]

check to make sure that the server and clients are either all on experimental or all on early access; experimental branched yesterday and you can't run cross-branch

[tame solar]

does using Docker fall under "running the server as a service"?

[keen vortex]

technically no, the service is running as a regular process within the container

[tame solar]

👍 ty

[icy field]

i7-3930K/64Gb

[keen vortex]

to be fair, on linux at least there isn't much difference between a "service" and a regular process

it's not like windows, where services have this whole complicated api

[tardy orchid]

so there are 3 app ids now ?? im currently using 1690800

[tame solar]

someone added Docker to the main wiki article so I was wondering whether that shouldn't be on the "running as a service" article instead

[keen vortex]

that's the dedi server, but there are multiple branches of that app

experimental is at 7783131, public is at 7776781

[keen vortex]

it should probably be its own section/article, since it's really not like either

[frank ember]

after last update havi this on dedi server

[keen vortex]

also depends on whose docker container you're running it in, tbh, i know of wolveix's but there might be others

[keen vortex]

you're running the experimental client

[alpine dawn]

is this happening only when multiple people are in the server?

[keen vortex]

can't tell what the server is running because you timed out connecting to it

either the server is not up or you don't have a network path to it

[slim spoke]

keep trying

[frank ember]

noone can connect after update

[alpine dawn]

ah

[slim spoke]

reboot all ur stuff modem router servers comps

[keen vortex]

my guess is that the server is still on release but you are running exp

[slim spoke]

lots are playing just fine

[keen vortex]

experimental has a new server-client protocol

[rose valley]

Also if you're using -multihome try without. Or switch to early access. That should be more stable.

[keen vortex]

so experimental clients will not connect to EA servers, or vice versa, and may fail to connect in ways that don't make it obvious that the reason for failure is version mismatch

i really wouldn't use exp at this point unless the (so far minor) changes to exp explicitly address issues you're having

[frank ember]

both client & server experimental 174005 build

[rose valley]

If that was the case he'd just get a version mismatch.

[keen vortex]

i'd suggest using EA

if it doesn't work in EA, then you probably have a network issue

[rose valley]

I concur. Generally, there's no reason to use Experimental unless intentionally wanting to test the changes there and then providing us with data to fix the issues. EA is the stable branch and most people should stick to that.

[keen vortex]

if it works in EA but not in Exp, then it's probably the multihome thing bogdan mentioned, but might be something else

[alpine dawn]

I ended up going back to EA

-beta default seems to have done the trick

[frank ember]

i have a problem, mb i just dumb, i use this $ cat /data/satisfactory/update.sh
steamcmd +force_install_dir /data/satisfactory +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit but installing 174005 build, instead 173879

[slim spoke]

replace steamcmd with new one then run it

[tiny topaz]

I need help, i'm using pterodactyl and a egg to host my statisfactory server, forwarded 7777, 15777, 15000 with UDP, but i can't connect

Connection to the dashboard in server list works, but when i join it accepts but immediately closes the connection as well

[slim spoke]

what errors? or crash log

[tiny topaz]

UNetConnection::

Tick: Connection TIMED OUT.

Closing connection.. Elapsed: 60.02, Real: 60.01, Good: 60.01, DriverTime: 60.02, Threshold: 60.00

[UNetConnection] RemoteAddr:

Something like this

[slim spoke]

keep trying

restart ur stuff and server

[tiny topaz]

Why keep trying? i've been trying to join it for 5 minutes now

[slim spoke]

modem router comp la la la

starting to feel like a broken record player

[lilac coyote]

Since the last update i cannot update my Docker Container to the new dedicated Server version. Still have the old version. I used the Image ich777/steamcmd:satisfactory

[tiny topaz]

Theres no router, only UFW firewall which has the ports forwarded

[slim spoke]

match server version to game version

005 is exp

good luck with that jensbot

[tiny topaz]

It is matched

[slim spoke]

anyways

[tiny topaz]

..

[lilac coyote]

The issue is you need to add -beta without experimental to install the EA Version from ds. I have tried it yesterday on my local Computer.

[tardy orchid]

TY its working now ❤️

[slim spoke]

those are steam things not game builds

[tiny topaz]

Can't someone help?

[ember rover]

Seems like a mismatch or something wrong with the docker image itself to me. Or the firewall on the host itself.

It's just guessing what it could be...

[tiny topaz]

Mismatch, no
docker issue? no, it's literally been tested
firewall? no idea, i forwarded the udp ports

[slim spoke]

keep trying to connect

[tiny topaz]

I did over 40 times now

Useless advice

[slim spoke]

if its exp server then consider using ea server and game which is stabler

well from the limited info u gave there isnt much to say

[ember rover]

The funny thing is, I just started up my game again after using it last night. Same issue, let's investigate.

[tiny topaz]

Its ea 173879

Client as well

[slim spoke]

that is just timing out

could be hub is in place with to much shit to load

[tiny topaz]

I dont have the data like owner there

Also remoteadress shows 15778 but it's weird

[slim spoke]

or check ports

[tiny topaz]

Also ontop of that i dont even have a big savegame

[ember rover]

Server is down afterwards, it crashed. It's booting now. So that's not all. It's not port/firewall related in my case.

[slim spoke]

that would mean server failed to get port it needs so it went up to the next like its supposed to

[tiny topaz]

The fuck

[slim spoke]

Also remoteadress shows 15778 but it's weird

[tiny topaz]

15777 is literally the only port forwarded in terms of the 15xxx range

Well the beacon is as well

[slim spoke]

ya but it failed

server cant use port it increments

just like they have since counterstrike days

[tiny topaz]

Hmm

So 15777 would be taken then, technically?

[keen vortex]

could be, yes

[tiny topaz]

Tf

I don't run anything on there

[slim spoke]

just forward range to test if its ports

like 3 or 4 ports

[keen vortex]

lsof -i tcp:15777 if you're on linux

[slim spoke]

or change the port and forward ... or cycle ur modem/router to close them

[ember rover]

The time out issue is gone after the server restarted itself.

[slim spoke]

but u will probably end up with same issue again sometime

[tiny topaz]

COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
docker-pr 10507 root 4u IPv4 368726 0t0 TCP <domain> LISTEN

Seems to be fine

[slim spoke]

server doesnt use TCP

its udp for the 3 ports

[tiny topaz]

I don't know why it wants to run on tcp

[slim spoke]

la la la la

[tiny topaz]

I literally forwarded UDP

[keen vortex]

yeah, it's UDP, that was a brainfart

[tiny topaz]

How the fuck

I literally have docker set to use the UDP ports

[slim spoke]

dont forward tcp .. just udp

[tiny topaz]

I didnt forward tcp

[slim spoke]

then things cant screw u like that

[tiny topaz]

Literally threw 15777/udp into the port

[slim spoke]

well guess what lol

[keen vortex]

well, it uses udp 15777, so that's right

it does not use TCP

[slim spoke]

just have to fix it now

[tiny topaz]

Docker uses both idk why

[keen vortex]

docker does what you tell it to

if it's "using" tcp that's because your docker image is configured to do so

[slim spoke]

lol

[tiny topaz]

tcp and udp

[keen vortex]

that has nothing to do with what satisfactory's server needs or wants

[tiny topaz]

Tcp is the listen one.. ??????

Idfk why its using this ffs

[slim spoke]

game server only uses UDP

[tiny topaz]

I KNOW

I literally told docker to use udp

[keen vortex]

i'd say that your problem is that your docker container is, well, problematic

[tiny topaz]

And it's not using udp

[slim spoke]

ok so go fix that lol

[tiny topaz]

Idk how

[slim spoke]

u need docker support

[tiny topaz]

Im literally using the docker image

[slim spoke]

must be some place for help

[keen vortex]

which one? there are multiple docker containers that claim to support satisfactory

[slim spoke]

maybe #off-topic-tech

[keen vortex]

you need to talk to whoever made the docker image you are using

there is no official docker image (at least as far as i know) nor none officially endorsed by coffee stain

the container i use has been working gloriously

[slim spoke]

sounds like someone didnt know and set it up just using BOTH as type

so u could just fix the port into a tiny range in docker and it would be fixed but sloppy

and forward the port range

[tiny topaz]

Right

So it does listen on UDP and TCP

[slim spoke]

UDP

ur wrong setup is doing whatever its telling u

[tiny topaz]

No im not wrong

[slim spoke]

fix udp that might fix it .. but if something is taking the port on udp then it wont

[tiny topaz]

Pterodactyl forwards both tcp and udp

[slim spoke]

thats where range shows u in teh server

u will see its using incremented port

[tiny topaz]

No, in docker ps

[slim spoke]

then u can change port or keep range

i dont care about ur dinosaur software or docker

there is places for help with that software

but i told u how to fix it

just have to apply to ur setup

[keen vortex]

the docker container i use binds udp:15000, udp:15777, and udp:7777 only

if the container you use binds tcp as well as udp it's not configured properly or is not appropriate for running the satisfactory server

a lot of people appear to be trying to run the satisfactory server in containers that were designed for other games, and haven't done a good job of adapting those containers for the satisfactory server. oops.

[tiny topaz]

https://github.com/parkervcp/eggs/tree/master/game_eggs/steamcmd_servers/satisfactory i use this

[slim spoke]

lol

[keen vortex]

anyhow, if you are using docker and are having problems, you need to talk to the maintainer of the docker container image you are using. there are too many out there to troubleshoot every possible combination.

i've seen nine different published containers in the last 48 hours. the one i use (wolveix/satisfactory-server) is working for me, but i'm sure there are others that work fine too.

make that ten (the one that is on the wiki page is a new one to me)

[serene anchor]

Question, will the servers only stay for the experimental version or will there be 2 versions? Since the servers were officially released with Update 5. But now it's about the updates comes an update in the experimental version, can I no longer play with the normal version even though it worked all the time?

[slim spoke]

there is 2 versions of servers now

check the wiki page for dedicated servers

[wild herald]

Hey since the last update I cant join my server anymore. I always get a version mismacht although I restarted the docker container several times (always downloading the newest version of the game on startup)

[slim spoke]

^^^^

[keen vortex]

imo, the wiki really shouldn't recommend any particular docker container. i have no idea if TeamJoe's container is a good one or not, but having listed there as "the" docker container when it's just one of many options seems... questionable.

[slim spoke]

i dont know why there would be one on there

[tame solar]

yeah, I'm not sure if there should be only one exact docker container linked

[keen vortex]

same here, but someone did that

i would simply say soemthing like "many people run the server within a docker container. there are many such containers available on docker's public repository. please direct any questions about using these containers to their respective maintainers."

[grand barn]

Moving back to EA, just mentioning that hosters are having this issue as well.
(if this gets deleted by bots irdc)

[tame solar]

the docker public repository link is https://hub.docker.com/search?q=satisfactory&type=image ?

[keen vortex]

that's reasonable. it will pick up some false positives (like the source for the bot in the modding discord!) but it's a good place to start looking

[keen vortex]

the nice thing about that search is that its default sort order is MRU, which will tend to steer people toward actively maintained images

and it will also tend to get images that are specifically designed for satisfactory, rather than people who have tried to shoehorn it onto an image originally designed for minecraft or counterstrike or whatnot

[tame solar]

right 👍

[keen vortex]

my wife worked at redbox for almost a year, and spent a good deal of time dealing with random crap related to docker, kubernetes, and aws

i think even mentioning docker around her gives her flashbacks

[tame solar]

if it'd cause problems it can be just removed entirely

[keen vortex]

nah, i think it's a good thing to have there, it might reduce the number of people who try to put in an ad for their own image. and it serves as a reminder to ask the right person about one's problem

docker is a real pain in the ass sometimes. it's also exceedingly useful.

[proud dagger]

Is the download for the satisfactory server with the steamCMD broken, so that u can only download the experimental version of the server at the moment?
I tried the download multiple times with the command
.\steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit
(without -beta experimental) and I always get a version mismatch (Server Version: 174005 Game Version: 173879) 😦

[slim spoke]

nope

server is exp

ur game is ea

[proud dagger]

so u cant download a server for the normal version of the game?

[slim spoke]

after 1690800 put -beta

and run again

it should install ea server

[proud dagger]

okay ty will try

[slim spoke]

or i just threw out streamcmd folder and unpacked it again

[proud dagger]

okay seems to work 🙂

Then the wiki needs an update. The upper part describes how to download a normal server using the command I wrote above.
Below is another command explicitly for the experimental server. In this command is -beta experimental used, but in the command above not -beta :/

[slim spoke]

ya its cause steamcmd remembers

im not good at writing shit and formating stuff so i dont screw with the wiki .. that way they dont get mad at me

[proud dagger]

ahh okay ;D

[slim spoke]

hehe

so many people put alot of time/effort in it i dont want to crash it or something

[golden sequoia]

we rent a satisfactory server yesterday, all fine, today in the morning also fine, at lunch server restarted and got not experimental version. what are our options and why is this shit happening?

[slim spoke]

if server is 005 then its exp .. if not then play on ea

or talk to hosting about changing to exp

[cunning lichen]

I never got an answer to my question, whenever I try to join my friends server which 3 of them are playing on I can't, just says server not authenticated and offline

Only for me

[slim spoke]

is server local ?

[cunning lichen]

No

[slim spoke]

on net?

[cunning lichen]

It's hosting on a dedi

3 of them are on it

I can't even see it online

[slim spoke]

then ur side most likely is messed like defender or av or firewall

[cunning lichen]

I've disabled it all

No difference

[slim spoke]

defender u can go in inclusions list and check all for satisfactory

[cunning lichen]

I don't use defender

[slim spoke]

keep troubleshooting then

[cunning lichen]

As I said I disabled my anti virus and firewall to test and it doesn't work

It's been going on since experimental servers went live

[slim spoke]

if people use the server fine but u cant then its ur end

[cunning lichen]

Yes I'm aware it my end bud, but nobody knows why

[slim spoke]

verify files or reinstall game

[cunning lichen]

I've reinstalled, disabled everything that affects it, restarted router

Check ISP firewall

All of which no difference

[slim spoke]

ok but it doesnt work doesnt tell us shit either

and people can play just not u

[cunning lichen]

Yup that's what I said?

[slim spoke]

so all we can do is name all the things it could be or u could try

[cunning lichen]

Mate it's been going on for 3 weeks I've tried everything hence why I'm asking if anything is missed

[slim spoke]

but this is to much like drama so ill wish u good luck

[cunning lichen]

Don't understand why your acting like an arse about it

[jovial remnant]

hes not acting like an arse...

hes tried to help you

[cunning lichen]

Yea I said that's not the issue I've tried it and then he's getting arsey saying I haven't tried like hello?

[slim spoke]

well im done helping u so problem solved

lol easy enough my stuff works ... thanx kinstry 🙂

[jovial remnant]

nice one, youre one step ahead of me

[slim spoke]

hehe been on this road many times

[jovial remnant]

couldnt connect to server for ages, couldnt work out why, reinstalled server and it all worked again ¬¬

always the way

[keen vortex]

sigh

"going on for 3 weeks" the server just updated two days ago, honestly

[jovial remnant]

restarted game now i cant connect again 😆

[keen vortex]

and before that it was experimental and was updating every couple of days

but yeah totally used to the "it don't work tell me why" from people who think it's rude to ask them what they've already done or to ask for more details than "it's broken"

[jovial remnant]

yeahh poor kid, needs to learn to troubleshoot

[empty axle]

why are there no saves?

[keen vortex]

like we have a magic "fix it!" button that we can just press and everything is happy again

[jovial remnant]

saves dont save there

[keen vortex]

i mean, yeah, sometimes we do, but not usually

[jovial remnant]

look for a .config folder

[keen vortex]

i see three saves

how many saves were you expecting?

[empty axle]

I mean on the server

[jovial remnant]

yeah not on his linux terminal, look for a folder called SavedGames

[empty axle]

there is none

[keen vortex]

how are you running it?

[jovial remnant]

mine endedup being here: ~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames

[empty axle]

oh lol

i thought they were in the Satisfactory folder

my bad

[keen vortex]

in mine they're in "saves" but that's beacuse the docker container i use configures it that way

[empty axle]

found them thanks

[keen vortex]

GAMESAVESDIR=/home/steam/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames

[empty axle]

Yeah i was confused because there was also a SatisfactoryDedicatedServer\FactoryGame\Saved folder

[keen vortex]

sure, that's where the savegame folder is

oh, the other one, sorry

yeah, that's because of how steam's infrastructure divides game data from user data; game saves are considered "user data"

[empty axle]

yeah

[keen vortex]

user data has to be stored in the user data area, which in linux is somewhere in $HOME

on windows it would be in %USERPROFILE%\AppData (most likely %LOCALAPPDATA% but some apps use the roaming or locallow subtrees)

[native canyon]

Hi
As anyone had the issue that the server says its update but when u try to connect to it trough the game its says version mismatched

[thorny hill]

wtf

[jovial remnant]

did you stop the server before running the update?

[radiant dock]

Hello, I have the same issue. usually a restart of my server (running as service) fix the updating, but not this time

[native canyon]

yes i did stop it

[blazing valve]

Could be the difference between experimental and early access

I did have the same issue

[native canyon]

dont think so i have both in experimental

is there anyway of me knowing the version of the game in the server?

[jovial remnant]

did it show the build id?

[radiant dock]

steam updated my experimental this morning (did not launch the game since a few days so it may be older). and when trying to restart/update the server, i have the same two versiion numbers.

[grizzled sundial]

hey @native canyon the dedicated servers branched yesterday. and anyone who had an experimental server defaulted to the Early Access client (173879). theres a SteamCMD argument you can run if you want to change it back to experimental.

[native canyon]

oh ok

i will try that

[radiant dock]

ha okee, thannks. will check that as well

[native canyon]

Do u know the command to do it?

[jovial remnant]

windows or linux?

think you can run app_update <appid> -beta experimental

server app id is 1690800

[worthy swift]

I got the server running and were online with 3 friends!

But question why is the workbench someone else places always "in use"?

[jovial remnant]

i used to get this bug before the dedicated servers, just think the server is not being told its no longer in use

[native canyon]

its working THX

[jovial remnant]

happy factorying

[worthy swift]

and how would one fix this?

[jovial remnant]

my fix was letting the host drop benches, but since its a dedicated server there is no host, so each person try and drop one and see if it there is one person it works for everyone

might be something that needs reported

[worthy swift]

Yeah will just try restart the server

[nova ether]

Does someone know why my server is saying "Inactive" and when i try to connect, i get an Connection Timed out error? Running on ubuntu

[jovial remnant]

any errors in the console of the server?

[vale bobcat]

[2021.11.27-15.01.58:700][ 14]LogGame: World Serialization (save): 20.710 seconds
[2021.11.27-15.02.03:296][ 14]LogGame: Compression: 4.585 seconds
[2021.11.27-15.02.03:296][ 14]LogGame: Write To Disk: 0.006 seconds
[2021.11.27-15.02.03:297][ 14]LogGame: Write Backup to Disk and Cleanup time: 0.008 seconds
[2021.11.27-15.02.03:396][ 14]LogGame: Total Save Time took 25.405 seconds

how to speed up that World Serialization?

[jovial remnant]

faster cpu

[vale bobcat]

ok thx no option for me now 😄

[jovial remnant]

what are you running it on atm?

20 seconds is quite slow

[keen vortex]

faster cpu, more memory

[vale bobcat]

e5 2680v4

[jovial remnant]

and ram?

[vale bobcat]

ddr3 2400 ecc

[jovial remnant]

size?

[keen vortex]

ooh, ecc, spiffy

[chilly meteor]

dedicated server for Epic???

[vale bobcat]

24 Gb for now, ca give him up to 64

[keen vortex]

there is no epic download for the server, see the wiki for instructions on using steamcmd

[jovial remnant]

yeah that shouldnt be taking 20 secs to save

[chilly meteor]

link for wiki instructions please

[keen vortex]

see pins

[vale bobcat]

map size is 7,5MB

[chilly meteor]

Thanks

[jovial remnant]

other processes running?

[vale bobcat]

oh stop.. 8 MB now

[patent sun]

Someone knows if nitrado server are on experimental or early access ? or can be switch ?

[jovial remnant]

you can probs ask them for either

[limpid ermine]

Ehy i have satisfactory on epic. How can i setup a server?

[slim spoke]

go ask their support

[jovial remnant]

follow wiki in pinned topics

[patent sun]

Thanks

[keen vortex]

i have satisfactory running on a ryzen 5 2600x, with a minecraft server running on the same machine, and don't see issues like that.

there might well be a nonlinearity in the serializer

[vale bobcat]

runs in a vm on a proxmox host with prefered cpu time to this vm, server utilisation is about 12% most time

[keen vortex]

the server will genreally occupy all of one core all the time

any additional cores given it will be used only intermittently

so it's probaly not much of a difference whether you give it two or sixteen

[jovial remnant]

100% sure proxmox is configured correct?

[vale bobcat]

99%

[jovial remnant]

defo sounds like a bottle neck somewhere

[vale bobcat]

ok doing some benchmarks

[keen vortex]

the devs said somewhere that the game is fundamentally single-threaded, and while there is a thread pool that is used for some things, pretty much the entire simulation is run within a single thread

[broken owl]

Experimental dedicated servers are ruined atm, latest patch broke the connection.

[keen vortex]

good argument for using EA then, there's a reason it's called "experimental"

[slim spoke]

its known lol

play ea

[patent sun]

We can't connect to Server Experimental atm ?

[slim spoke]

some can some cant

its testing sending ports all thru 15777

[graceful mist]

There is no way to send a message to the server via console correct? I checked the wiki, didn't see anything

[slim spoke]

server manager

[keen vortex]

none that has been disclosed so far

[graceful mist]

Thanks

[slim spoke]

console is in server manager

[keen vortex]

if you think that would be useful, you should say so on the QA site

[vale bobcat]

Geekbench 5 Score
791
Single-Core Score
6506
Multi-Core Score
Geekbench 5.3.1 Tryout for Linux x86 (64-bit)

looks ok for me

[jovial remnant]

same score youd get outside proxmox?

[vale bobcat]

if i compare with cpu data on geekbench it is ok

CPU Benchmark Scores
755
Single-Core Score
8696
Multi-Core Score

[slim spoke]

should #off-topic-tech

more people will chat it that know about that stuff

[broken owl]

We change our server branches on-the-fly. It's not an issue but we're trying to bring this to the attention of the devs so they can fix it 🙂

[jovial remnant]

might be missing some dependencies on ubuntu @vale bobcat

[vale bobcat]

ok thx for this i will research

[jovial remnant]

you install libsdl2-2.0-0:i386?

[vale bobcat]

no but now

[vale bobcat]

thx for your help i will give it a try later 🙂

[old parrot]

Hey, anyone with this problem? I need to retry several times until it works 😦
The server is near me, and have no issues to ping...

Ports are open

[jovial remnant]

experimental version?

[slim spoke]

set longer timeout?

[old parrot]

But... around 18ms ping

[slim spoke]

or maybe hub is in high load area .. and if u move it will load

[old parrot]

Nah, new map

I've tried everything, believe me

hehe[

[slim spoke]

easy enough dont have to help ya then

[jovial remnant]

id the same issue earlier, did a reinstall and it worked for one connection, then when i restarted my game it did the same as you see above

just kept retrying and it would work eventually

[old parrot]

bruh

[slim spoke]

u did everything so im not wasting my time lol

[old parrot]

Yeah, I'm doing it, but it's pretty annoying 😦

[keen vortex]

does the server even run on a 32-bit arch?

the wiki says it only runs on amd64 platform, so i don't see how an i386 library (which is only useful in 32-bit mode) would make a difference

[jovial remnant]

ask the devs sure it was taken from their wiki

[keen vortex]

that's weird.

[slim spoke]

failsafe for potatoes lol

[keen vortex]

because you'll pretty much guaranteed to get exceptions if you try to use i386 code in amd64 mode

[old parrot]

i386 = 32 bits and amd64

[keen vortex]

i know what they are

[jovial remnant]

it works on 64 bit too is what hes saying

[keen vortex]

no, not on debian or any debian derived architecture

i386 is intel 32-bit, amd64 is intel/amd 64-bit

[jovial remnant]

well its recommended for a reason

few other sites about hosting say the same to install this

[keen vortex]

it's a weird steam thing, i guess

[jovial remnant]

cant argue with the overlords

[keen vortex]

i'm finding it in the issues section of the steamcmd github

they must subproc it, or they only use it for data

yup, they subproc it

parts of steamcmd run in 32-bit compatibility mode

because steam is too lazy to recompile

[tall oasis]

so, my server keeps going into a timeout state after 2-3 hours of uptime

this is fairly new

it basically drops everyone out to main menu, then refuses every connection with timeout

the process is still running though

so it does not "crash"

if I reboot the service it works for another 2-3 hours roughly

then enters this dead state again

any ideas?

[slim spoke]

check the bug site .. havent heard it that way yet

[hybrid summit]

I also get that

[tall oasis]

well considering dedicated servers have 3 open issues

it is probably not reported

[hybrid summit]

New from this patch

[tall oasis]

alright

time for me to report it