dedicated-servers

[indigo cape]

so server is in europe now too

[alpine dawn]

pets 0ms server ping

[indigo cape]

but ouch on 320 that is rough

[slim spoke]

its all about routing lol

[indigo cape]

you on satelite or dial up? that's pretty high

[slim spoke]

i know guy in toronto that pulls around 50mb/s from an eu server

[quick mist]

latency and throughput are two different conversations

[slim spoke]

he has like 1 step routing to the exchange

[quick mist]

I'm one step removed from a guy who paid a couple thousand dollars to get a two meter long OC48 circuit run

[stone root]

Eh, server is in frankfurt so the ping isn't too unreasonable from eastern AUS. I did try my mobile tethering too in case it was a specific ISP issue.

[quick mist]

gotta get that submicrocecond latency for stock trades (before the SEC came in and mandated everyone in the DC had a run of exactly the same cable length for fairness)

[indigo cape]

@quick mist lol, when we bought our house and was looking for land, first thing I did was look at the pole and said NOPE no fiber here my wife was like but it's beautiful, I said NOPE keep moving I don't require alot but THAT is a deal breaker for me ... lol

[stone root]

It seems to be expecting a response with 5.0 (something), is there anyway to simply increase that to give it more time to try connect?

[quick mist]

There might be .ini file settings or console commands that will make the server more lax but I am not privy to them

[indigo cape]

yeah I only know about the network setting and not sure it'll help with timeout

[stone root]

I was playing around with .ini when I got in, but the changes I made didn't actually help again so i suspect it was perhaps just luck ha

[alpine dawn]

yeah thats a thing for me now as well

[slim spoke]

kreytari in game settings is ur network quality setting on ultra?

[quick mist]

I don't need Fiber (though I'd like it), I'll settle for cable, but no way am I settling in DSL country again

:shudder:

[slim spoke]

or are u running different values from ini

[indigo cape]

lol yeah it's fiber for cable on the pole coax to the house

but still gives me up to 1gb down with only 50ish up

I only pay for the 400 though but 1g is offered for an extra $150 / mo ....

[alpine dawn]

I got symmetrical 1gbit for like $80/mo

[indigo cape]

nice

they had some deal in austin like that 1 g down / 1g up for $50/mo I was like time to move

google fiber

[alpine dawn]

ah yeah

I dont have Google fiber

[quick mist]

I was pissed when the Google Fibre deal in Phoenix fell through

[indigo cape]

lol I'll bet

[stone root]

medium

[stone root]

default now

[indigo cape]

I keep hoping they'll come here but doubt it.. we only have 3 hospitals and 2 colleges nothing big businessy

[slim spoke]

isp in US are pushing past 2gb down lol

[quick mist]

last I heard, GF wasn't really expanding to new cities anymore

[indigo cape]

sad

[slim spoke]

i would turn it up cause default is slower then max

[quick mist]

too much pushback (read: bribes) from the pentopoly

[slim spoke]

could be why it worked 1 time.. maybe its just on edge of timeout

[indigo cape]

That's crazy I'd love for them to come here and compete with our ISP they have a serious monopoly and their prices reflect it and their customer service "or lack there of"

[stone root]

Higher is better? I tried low...I got a Unreal engine crash instead :p

[slim spoke]

ya ultra

its how much bandwidth is used

low = slow

[quick mist]

out here about 70% of the time you're in "you may have Cox cable or Qwest DSL".. 25% of the time you are only servicable by one or the other, and 5% of the time it's dial-up at best

[indigo cape]

@stone root Are you setting your client side to match?

[slim spoke]

he cant get on his rented dedi

so telling him to up the net speed

[alpine dawn]

lol @quick mist I have "Qwest"(centurylink) fiber

[slim spoke]

hehe qwest

[stone root]

Nah that didn't help. Server is working fine for others - and myself once.

[indigo cape]

I'm sorry, century link... so bad they had to change their name

[quick mist]

"CenturyLink DSL: So great we're on our fifth name this decade!"

[alpine dawn]

lol

[quick mist]

"CenturyLink DSL: Getting a rep on the phone takes a literal century!"

[slim spoke]

i remember when their dialup got trashed for 3days cause the admin gave workstation access to someone then made them really mad .. back when dsl was getting bigger

[indigo cape]

lol they told one of our business offices that the speed was less than 1m because of solar flares I was like wtf

truth was they over sold the line

[slim spoke]

anyways how about them server problems

[quick mist]

in all seriousness, solar activity can faff about with internet connectivity from time to time. 'Sunspots' literally can be the actual reason a connection conks out every 11 years

[alpine dawn]

its actually specifically listed in Cisco documentation

[slim spoke]

its like an emp

[stone root]

I could try create a local dedicated I guess, see if that helps.

[alpine dawn]

ePeen

[indigo cape]

lol jelly

[quick mist]

TFW your upstream throughput is better than your downstream

[slim spoke]

u did say u were in ini ... did u change network stuff in there

kreytari

[indigo cape]

prolly cause he's using his down and not using the up so slows down a bit 🙂

[alpine dawn]

yeah there are a few things going on

😄

[indigo cape]

I see my down flux a lot during busy times of day and the up never seems to change

[stone root]

Changing the network options reset it all anyways, i can see the changes they make.

[slim spoke]

oh that was for server inis

this is getting confusing

[indigo cape]

Well going to get some sleep, hopefully they'll have a good fix tomorrow /today

[quick mist]

🔜
(I'll take "Emoticons that don't play nice with Dark Mode" for $400, Alex)

[indigo cape]

Yeah TM right lol

[alpine dawn]

yeah that shit dont show up

lmao

[indigo cape]

Here's that belt thing he was talking about

What's actually there after server reboot

[quick mist]

I was today years old when I learned that the disappearing belt bug applied to lifts too

[indigo cape]

it sucked cause I couldn't place and was like wtf

rebooted and they all just appeared

but in the first shot you can see the quick wire running through the "no belts" it's running left to right

[stone root]

Hmm i can't actually see satisfactory server in my tools list, is it just called that?

[slim spoke]

not everyone can u have to own on steam

[low gazelle]

Something like that yeah

[quick mist]

If you don't own the game on Steam, it doesn't appear on there (yet); CSS is working with Valve to fix that. In the mean time you can use SteamCMD

[stone root]

I have it on steam, but not in tools

[slim spoke]

use steamcmd then

[indigo cape]

just use steamcmd it works 100% of the time

the tools menu is hit or miss

[quick mist]

make sure Tools is checked?

[alpine dawn]

yeah I dont have it on steam and was skeptical while installing it

XD

[indigo cape]

They said in last video I saw that it's supposed to be there but it's a bug some people see it and some don't I didn't for the first 3 days

[stone root]

Yup I can see about 30 other dedicated servers, just not that one

[quick mist]

yeah last I heard CSS was still working with Valve on that

[alpine dawn]

dunno I just used steamCMD

[indigo cape]

but I used steamcmd on day one and moved on

[alpine dawn]

followed the wiki

[stone root]

Yeh installing

[indigo cape]

lol anyway realling going to bed this time it's almost 2am and I have to work at 8 :p

[quick mist]

ciao!

[alpine dawn]

steamCMD worked really well since I already had an ARK server on there

[tribal pumice]

I love LGSM if you're using Linux.

[solid ice]

My conveyors keep disappearing on my server. Like they are still there but like randomly pop in and out on my screen. Is that an issue other people are having? Or just me? 😦

[crystal eagle]

Been happening to mine also, a server restart solves the issue

[solid ice]

Yeahhh I’d just have to restart the server like every half an hour then 😦

[hushed gate]

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports at https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/ - <3 @slim spoke

Nov 8, 2021, 8:04 AM

[placid ruin]

I think its a bug. I also have it on local but not always... then i need to leave the game and reload...

[solid ice]

Now I can’t get my server to relaunch. Keep getting nat detection failed unable to resolve host

Checked my port forwarding and it should be okay. Also tried running multihome=0.0.0.0 but no change

[solemn laurel]

I hope the belts get fixed soon ;D

[foggy agate]

you can ignore that :)

[foggy agate]

check your logs whats going on

[solid ice]

Where are the logs located?

[foggy agate]

in your server console

[solid ice]

Oh just when I run it?

[foggy agate]

yes

[solid ice]

This is it what it says at the end and it keeps running like the server is okay but i cant connect.

[slim spoke]

did u check in server manager

[solid ice]

Yes that’s where I tried to connect.

[slim spoke]

normal server running sits with 2 warnings

[solid ice]

It just said the server was offline.

[slim spoke]

check ur ports

[solid ice]

I did

Idk I’ll troubleshoot it more tomorrow lol.

[stone root]

Once you have started the server you join using 0.0.0.0 right? Or do you need the IP of the computer running it?

[rocky violet]

IP of the computer running it if it is not the same PC

[slim spoke]

u use 127.0.0.1 , lan ip or external net ip

or u can use localhost

[stone root]

localhost worked, thanks! I couldn't see that in the instructions, although maybe I am blind

[slim spoke]

the ip for that is the 127

incase

[stone root]

Oooh a timed out connecting to my own server (after it gave the admin/password/create game interface fine), probably means somethings up somewhere with my computer

[vapid bramble]

0.0.0.0 is a way to tell a socket "just react on any address configured here", not a real IP address. It doesn't work for IP destinations.

[slim spoke]

its for binding all possible adapters

[vapid bramble]

fun fact... in IPv6 the "zero address" ( :: ) is a valid source address for some usecases (mostly ICMPv6)

[stone root]

Hm, well, I tried another computer on my network and it would connect to the server for about 1 second before loosing connection, so at least I am reasonably confident the problem is at my end rather than the gportal server end.

[vapid bramble]

can you ping between the computers?

[stone root]

Yeh, I mean, it loaded into the server and I even saw the environment start to load and then it died.

Giving up for now, may just be a case of waiting for a few more patches or whatnot!

[slim spoke]

tmrw tell someone to move hub to spot away from everything

give it the best shot at loading

[dapper blaze]

is there a setting to prevent kicking idlers?

[slim spoke]

no

[viscid lodge]

Any useful console commands for dedicated servers?

Or still in the works?

[low pivot]

Type ? In console with admin access

[viscid lodge]

Awesome thank you 🙂

[low pivot]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Console

[lofty locust]

Can you run mode on the server?

[neat meteor]

After crashing my game when building close to map border, my truck and my chest restawned at map coord 0/0. But not on the surface. And there is no cave underneath.

[gentle prawn]

anyone getting a bug where pipes are stacked when you restart the server? I mean like, we had 3 pipes that were in the same place, all connected to the same machine

[nova geyser]

anyone got a server i can join

cause I am am running satisfactory on epic games

[prime gorge]

You don't need Satisfactory on your Steam account for SteamCMD server maintenance.

That said: #looking-for-group-old

[nova geyser]

thanks ben!

[valid wharf]

Hello all! im running a dedicated server through a server hosting service (nitrado) the game has been running well however the server does not seem to update, I do not have the likes of screens and windows in my awesome shop of which i want both and am unsure if it just needs updating and if so how. As mentioned server is ran by Nitrado and was clamed in game on an epic games account.

[prime gorge]

For service provider maintenance please contact the support service of that respective service provider!
That said: Last update was on last Thursday!

[valid wharf]

thankyou, i am aware that was the last update we have had this server since before then 🙂 So i have to some how update game version in the provider system/ contact them if i cant do so?:)

[vocal jungle]

run the steamcmd update command from a termanal window on the server using the correct user and force_install_dir values

[vocal jungle]

it hard to answer since we dont know how Nitrado runs there serves

and i am not going to pay money to find out so i can fix your problem so get more info

[valid wharf]

never asked you to pay money to find out for me dude xD im just asking if anyone has come across it and knows what to do 🙂

[vocal jungle]

did you read the nitrado FAQ and wiki

[valid wharf]

i am and am trying things now, just did not know it was a nitrado thing rather than game thing 🙂

[vocal jungle]

cause i just found the answer are 2 min of looking

just restart the server on nitrado and it will trigger any updates needed

[valid wharf]

which i have done to no affect since Thursday

[vocal jungle]

backup save, reinstall server, reload save

[valid wharf]

yep im doing that currently, as i said i read that and am currently trying this 🙂

Can confirm this has not worked

just trying another restart of the server on nitrados end

[vocal jungle]

I think game host providers are handy in all but, if you looking to learn more doing a homelab or a VPS at the same price is worth so much more when it comes to getting experience

[valid wharf]

thats fair, i just use host providers for the general ease of use to be honest

[vocal jungle]

thats why they are handy ther quick and easy but you lack granular control

[scarlet pollen]

I had trouble with trains not loading / unloading on our dedicated server. Someone suggested pulling the latest save and setting up the freight platforms in single player, then re-uploading that save back to the dedicated server... it worked like a charm. Thanks whoever helped

[vocal jungle]

its a good work around but remember that you cant make changes lol

[scarlet pollen]

yeah, no kidding... main thing we wanted was to get some stuff from our steel base back to the main to push into Tier 7/8

now I just have to work on stabilizing power

[vocal jungle]

is fuel power not t6 lol

[scarlet pollen]

it is.... and we're on it, just the pipes are being fussy

[vocal jungle]

just package and unpackage all the things lol

[main void]

Do Nitrado provide experimental servers?

[still glade]

What's the maximum players we can have per dedicated servers ?

[valid wharf]

i believe so, i mean im playing via the experimental branch of the game and it has some of the new experimental content I believe

[main void]

It wouldn't let you join if the versions mismatched, so I'm guessing the server is up to date.

What tier are you at?

[quick mist]

the only dedicated servers are Experimental, so I'd hope so

[valid wharf]

i thought this too

teir 5/6

[main void]

Some hosts were launching servers with the client version

I don't know then.

[valid wharf]

the main issue is screens and windows arent showing up in the awesome shop, i have other new content like floor coveyor holes and new doors etc and the new concrete

[main void]

How are you Mam unlocks?

Particularly quartz

[valid wharf]

none untill a moment ago xD ill be honest i thought the person ive been playing with had done this

[main void]

Okay, have fun with your screens :-)

[valid wharf]

thankyouuu ❤️

[potent oasis]

Probably already mentioned in here. Trains seem to be the biggest issue with my dedicated server. Anytime I drive one for a bit I get disconnected. Sometimes just sitting in one messing with the timetable gets me disconnected

Also should mention. Server is located here in my house and I have 1ms ping at all times.

[calm saffron]

Trains are known to be pretty buggy in multiplayer - I’m hopeful that it’s a major priority for them.

[graceful rampart]

This might sound silly but unless you are playing on a LAN connection you still send data out into the great blue net and then it comes right back. You have a better connection than most but unstable/reliable internet can still bonk things. I only mention this for educational purpose.
Moving vehicles on any MP game is tough coming out the gate. Likely take a while for them to run well, I believe it is about the amount of Data that has to run back and forth so fast.

[quick mist]

Except that vehicles are pretty well-behaved in 'listen servers' (aka normal multiplayer)

[potent oasis]

I am accessing via LAN.

[quick mist]

which means pretty clearly that the particular misbehavior in dedicated servers is particular to dedicated servers

[graceful rampart]

First I should let you know Nitrado has a bad rep across many games. I see this name it is usually with things not working as they should or slow support.
If you do not see an update a few hours after release always put in a support ticket with them. If they do not have their files set up properly it hurts your server and wastes your money.
Host Havoc was the last provider I used and have heard many agree they are great. I cut out the host and rent hardware straight from where companies like Nitrado get their hardware. OVH. If you have a couple of people to chip in it is not bad. With Win installed will look like your PC. Using Steam CMD install is quick and simple.

Also if you decide to go that route and need help getting going after you have Win installed, feel free to DM me. About 10yrs ago I was new to it and intimidated by it. Today it is so so simple to get going, except Atlas, only game that is anything but simple. LOL.

[nimble ibex]

We assumed trains were off the table when we couldnt get a tractor to work properly

[indigo cape]

Yeah happens with explorer too sometimes I can drive a few feet before but I ALWAYS get disconnected and usually when I log back in I'm in the vehicle and seem to be able to drive around without issue as long as I don't get out and jump back in

[graceful rampart]

It just will take time and patience. That would have been announced if the devs did not have a plan. So many other games out there have MP, vehicles, they work but took time to get there.

[indigo cape]

today noticed some really odd behavior too lol

[graceful rampart]

How high over the RAM specs and VRAM specs requirements are you? They will get it fixed up much better but with MP Dedicated you may find that you lack RAM. Empyrion is a game where many have said in SP they are fine but their PC can not handle MP with vehicles.

[indigo cape]

the car sitting at station on right is the back half of that train in the picture

and that car was flashing between multiple colors wasn't just white/red

[sly flint]

Has anyone found that the dedicated server sticks during loading sometimes and needs a keypress to get it moving again?

[indigo cape]

not sure since I stopped being the host but had those issues on mine even when I hosted and I have 196gb ram with 1tb of hd space

oh and 15k sas drives

still disonnected everytime I got in explorer and started driving or everytime I jump in train

on the pic, when the train pulled out the cars from the station started teleporting back to the train was funny to watch

And still have 2 trains that simply won't drop/pickup some of their cars I've rebuilt stations add removed stops nothing seems to help

they hate stators because that's one of the items that just won't pick up and won't drop lol

[alpine dawn]

going to hold off on building any trains for now

maybe when they release a few more patches

lol

[graceful rampart]

Darn I thought I had a lot of RAM. LOL. Anyhow I am just throwing what info is in my head out there. I am betting most of you know almost more than I do.

[indigo cape]

and on my client I have 32g

so doubt that is the issue hehe

not sure how they going to reach stable by end of year though ... a lot of work to be done

[graceful rampart]

You would be surprised how things come together. I have been surprised with other games many times. Just have patience and faith in the devs.

[indigo cape]

Thought it was funny how they said they had a big qa for this one and I was like umm how did your QA miss the lights on machines weren't working? it was glaring

[graceful rampart]

Different hardware has different results.

Cou

[indigo cape]

you saying they worked on some? cause I saw a crap ton on q&a site

[graceful rampart]

Could also be that lights were not on the priority list in the QA

Guessing honestly.

[indigo cape]

The devs are great and I hope with the coming of dedicated they will move their focus to multiplayer more because a lot of the issues we are seeing have been there since before update 3 but hosts weren't effected so they seem to be back burner

[graceful rampart]

Sadly too many hours in this game bored with it already. Sadly also too many times starting from scratch too.

[indigo cape]

Yeah I have started over with every major update

and usually when I find someone to play with I start again and when I wanted to try some mods finally I started fresh

[graceful rampart]

Well Dedicated is a big step so it would make sense to leave some bugs linger until this point more so if you feel they would just come back.

[indigo cape]

Yes very excited for it

[alpine dawn]

hopefully I see a notification today in #patch-notes

[indigo cape]

Yeah I keep hoping :/

[hexed plover]

can we activate chrismas event on dedicated?

[solid ice]

It’s not Christmas yet 😠

[alpine dawn]

November update turns all parts into turkeys for no good reason

XD

god that would be confusing

[hexed plover]

but snow 🙂

[solid ice]

Wait you have snow?

It’s been so many years since if seen snow. I moved to a tropical island and now it’s just perpetual summer

[alpine dawn]

lmao

hope we get snow this year

I bought a new car that has AWD...I need an excuse to test it

haha

[solid ice]

Okay I’ve decided the disappearing conveyors must be a server hardware issue.

[quick mist]

Just remember, on slick roads: four driving tires with no traction is no better than two driving tires with no traction.

[solid ice]

Just switched the pc I’m running the server on and it has no problems now

[indigo cape]

Noobsey it's a time played issue for sure, everytime we reboot we get a few more hours of it not happening

[solid ice]

I just rebooted my server and I got a whole 5 minutes.

[alpine dawn]

yeah, I mostly just want to try doing AWD doughnuts HAHA

[solid ice]

I guess my save is at 100hours because I didn’t turn on the pause when nobody is connected lol

[alpine dawn]

never seen this one

[solid ice]

I was running the server on an i5 2400. It probably just can’t keep up xD

[indigo cape]

Showed picture earlier of no belts at all and then rebooted they were all there, didn't build them between the shots it was litterally a reboot and they were all there

[alpine dawn]

weird

maybe after we build out our factory more that will be an issue

[indigo cape]

yeah when I was placing you could see the blue ghost click made the sound but ghost stayed and then a few min later they just vanish and qwire was teleporting from left side of 5 smart splits to the right side and up the lift no belts inbetween were visable lol

[solid ice]

^^^^

[alpine dawn]

is that a windows server or linux?

wonder if we are having OS specific issues now

[solid ice]

Mines on linux

Debian 10

[alpine dawn]

hmm ok yeah mine is linux as well

[solid ice]

Ahhh

Good to know.

That might be the issue then. I just spun it up on a windows 10 machine and didn’t have any immediate issues

I’ll play for a little while and see

Hmmm now I can’t get the server to connect online though :(((

[quick mist]

Take a look at the seven-step troubleshooting guide on the Wiki

[gaunt wyvern]

This may be a stupid question. But did the manual save button on dedicated servers get removed?

[zinc granite]

is there a fix for trains not docking on a dedicated server? I cannot get a freight car to unload no matter what I try. Other cars in the same train will unload just fine

[quick mist]

Fixing trains right now is kind of black magic. I have heard reports that running power to each station helps (and that it doesn't help); I have heard reports that rebuilding the station helps (and that it doesn't help); I have heard reports that downloading the savefile and rebuilding the station in single-player helps (and also that it doesn't help). All I know for sure is that trains on Dedicated Servers are really cantakerous right now unfortunately

[zinc granite]

I've tried all of those.. I've had luck downloading the save file and running it in single player for a different freight platform, but not this one

very weird

so far it seems drones are the only reliable mode of transportation other than belts

[alpine dawn]

yeah trucks and trains are a bit wonky

[fervent crow]

ive had to toggle the load/unload button a bunch of times on each station.

[quick mist]

sweet, more incantations (:

[fervent crow]

always!

[foggy agate]

haha I don't have any problems with my trains😲

[indigo cape]

one other thing that sometimes helps but not always is to rebuild the station unloading/loading platforms and when you click hold your mouse aimed at the build location until it is completely done, I have done everything and still have 2 that refuse to load/unload but the rest have fixed and working by doing this

it was one of the work around jace mentioned in one of his videos

works about 70% of the time

kinda like the programmable splitters they go stupid but found that if you click the add however many times you need items on each slot ... close the ui, open ui change no more than 3 from any to what you want then close and reopen and repeat until done they work just fine

[zinc granite]

I'll give it a try, thanks

[gentle prawn]

so I plan on using a host (GTX) for a server, what do you recommend as the settings for it? Probably like 4 players max with very large factories

[prime gorge]

Pretty stable with one CPU Core (I have 4 but the server is single core threaded) and 8 GB RAM. I am sure though I will hit the spot though needing 10 GB with a really big and stretched factory though

So, Monday evening and no server update alrady? Are we happy? Time to deploy U5? 🤣 😉

[gentle prawn]

what about the CPU clock speed? Because I have no idea what is a good speed or bad xD

[prime gorge]

2,4 GHz

[gentle prawn]

really? I would've thought the game would be quite cpu intensive

[prime gorge]

Distro Details
========================================================================================================================
Date:      Mon Nov  8 20:26:18 CET 2021
Distro:    Rocky Linux 8.4 (Green Obsidian)
Arch:      x86_64
Kernel:    4.18.0-305.25.1.el8_4.x86_64
Hostname:  <>
Uptime:    4d, 21h, 11m
tmux:      tmux 2.7
glibc:     2.28

Server Resource
========================================================================================================================
CPU
Model:      AMD EPYC Processor
Cores:      4
Frequency:  2445.404MHz
Avg Load:   0.88, 0.89, 0.78

Memory
Mem:       total  used   free       cached  available
Physical:  7.5GB   5.1GB  2.1GB      1.8GB   2.1GB
Swap:      0B      0B     0B

Storage
Filesystem:     /dev/sda1
Total:                            151G
Used:                             6.7G
Available:      138G

Network
IP:             0.0.0.0
Internet IP:    <>

Game Server Resource Usage
========================================================================================================================
CPU Used:  45.5%
Mem Used:  66.4%         5033MB

Storage
Total:          4.7G
Serverfiles:    4.3G
Backups:        28K

[gentle prawn]

interesting, thanks

[prime gorge]

No worries 🙂

[narrow sparrow]

Hi, anyone has an idea why I would now be gettign this error ?

I was able to connect, created a game, but for some reason I can'no longer log on and play on it

[quick mist]

do you get the same error when trying to reconnect?

[prime gorge]

Have you opened the port 7777 on your firewall as well?

[narrow sparrow]

yeah ports are open as far as I can see

and yes that error appears when I try to connect

[prime gorge]

Initial setup is not done on that port. So it might be most likely a firewall ruleset "issue"

[quick mist]

Is this your server, and is it local to you or hosted elsewhere?

[narrow sparrow]

I used that powershell command to set up the firewall stuff

it is up and running, I have seen stuff appear when creating a new game, it's on another machine not inside my network

[quick mist]

so it's remote to you, got it. I would suggest then working through the seven-step troubleshooting process you can find toward the bottom of the Wiki page

[vagrant turtle]

You need to open the ports on the server or firewall of the server or router before the server

[prime gorge]

Damn bot ...

[narrow sparrow]

it is strange because when dedicated servers launched I was able to log on

[vagrant turtle]

not just your machine, as your machine is connecting to the server..

[narrow sparrow]

@vagrant turtle the ports have beenopened on the server, and using that script I can see that it's listening

[prime gorge]

Can you tripple check? Can you try to querry the port? (Try www . microsoft . com / en-us / download / details . aspx?id=17148)

[vagrant turtle]

all 3? 7777, 15000 and 15777 ?

and UDP, not TCP

[prime gorge]

Yeah, you were able to connect to the querry port. You weren't using the game port.

[vagrant turtle]

oh, running a windows server?

[prime gorge]

Just because it listens on those ports it doesn't mean the firewall is opened up for incoming traffic 😉

[silver badge]

guys, hows the game running on server? is it comparable to a host experience or more like a guest?

[narrow sparrow]

hold on ... might have found something

[prime gorge]

Word around here is that's running pretty well for experimental state. Lot of stuff has to be added, but the basic usage experience is really great. Especially because you can set the server to continue even though no one is connected to it.

[narrow sparrow]

ok ... nm folks ... my stupid mistake. My server machine sitll had an ARK Server runing and listening on 7777 too

[quick mist]

that might cause issues!

[vagrant turtle]

rofl.. yeah, I shut my ARK servers down .. but I thought ARK used TCP instead of UDP

[narrow sparrow]

Yeps, I had turned it off, but it was starting up automatically after server rebooth.

think it uses both for some things

[alpine dawn]

its using unreal engine so its basically the same

[vagrant turtle]

yeah, I changed my arkmanager settings to not auto start on boot.

way before I even heard of Satisfactory heheeh 🙂

[alpine dawn]

if you had multiple IPs on the server you could change the bind address so they could run at the same time on different IPs

[prime gorge]

RIP 😅

[prime gorge]

Why would you use TCP for server communication?

[acoustic python]

yeah gameservers usually use UDP right

[lofty latch]

Mostly UDP, TCP isn't uncommon - neither is a mixture of the two

[vagrant turtle]

depends on the application, and if it requires data flowing in specific order, rather than UDP that can come in out of order.

[prime gorge]

Mostly for transfering stuff. But pure update traffic is done by UDP. TCP has way too much overhead for quick update packets

[late coral]

So how's dedicated running performance wise?
Have a NUC core i5 5250U with 16G ram.
Would like to get a picture whether that machine is viable for like up to 20 clients.

[solid ice]

The disappearing belts is not a Linux only issue 😂

[solid ice]

My windows server just gave me the same problem with belts.

[fluid turret]

yes 16GB of ram is more than enough, that cpu should be enough, vehicles + paths take the most CPU

@late coral You need a massive save and or a lot of players to reach 8gb ram on a dedi

[vernal vigil]

Been playing on dedi for about 50 hours (my fiancée and me). It’s working pretty decent in general. The only thing that’s bothering us is the frequent disappearing of belts. They’re not getting deleted or anything, they’re just not rendering (but the physics are, so you can bump into them). Besides that; awesome performance.

[vocal jungle]

Just Reboot on a 24h loop

[burnt blaze]

I've switched my games to server to keep ticket production running. They're running great with the exception of vehicles.

[late coral]

Heard on refined R&Do discord there's an issue with dedicated only using one thread. But a fix is on it's way

[vernal vigil]

Already doing that, but sometimes it happens right after a fresh boot

[vernal vigil]

Do your vehicles crash? Because I was also thinking of letting the tickets run while we’re sleeping 😛

[burnt blaze]

Refueling and loading/unloading is unreliable. It's working fine on one route but I can't get them to do it on others. I could tranfer the save to single-player and then create the routes but I can't be bothered.

[late coral]

Thx for the info 😀

[fluid turret]

Clearly not cause I have gotten up to 12% CPU usage on my 5600X in a world with 50+ vehicles doing paths, it was not just using 1 thread.

[late coral]

Maybe a OS specific problem?

[flat forum]

maybe, but the linux build at least performs pretty well

99% of problems are bug related, not performance (in my experience)

[rare jewel]

hey people, im trying to startup my server, but its given me the same warning over and over. Tried the portforward thing 15777/15000/7777 UDP, but it won't get past this line of text https://i.imgur.com/D6DBZM5.png

[late coral]

Gues it's called experimental for a reason 🤪

[flat forum]

can you connect to the server anyways?

my server spits the same warnings, but works fine

[rare jewel]

didnt try yet, gonna give it a shot

guess i wasted an hour, thanks @flat forum

[fluid turret]

For future reference @rare jewel ignore warnings, look at errors(in red text) but still ignore unless there is a problem with connecting.

[flat forum]

even some errors are benign

as long as you can connect, it is probably fine

[rare jewel]

gotcha

[flat forum]

(and the errors don't mention saving)

[rare jewel]

btw, do other people have to type in my ip adress or how do they actually connect?

[flat forum]

they need to type in your public ip address

[fluid turret]

google my ip

[flat forum]

and you need your ports forwarded

[rare jewel]

got it, thank you guys

[flat forum]

also make sure to make a client password ingame (that is different from the admin password)

so you don't get randoms guessing your ip

[fluid turret]

like zoom raids?

[flat forum]

pretty much lol

with the size of the satisfactory community it is unlikely, but you might as well defend it.
Don't want to lose hours of work because a jerk found your unsecured server 😛

[hidden rock]

load autosave xd

it saves everytime someone joins / leaves

at least i think thats what the latest state was?

[flat forum]

yeah, still those roll over, and depending on how quick you notice / react well...

also not everyone does daily backups (even though they should), and even if it is a quick rollback nobody likes the stress of actually having to do a rollback

a quick password will make it so you almost certainly won't have to worry about unauthorized people

would still love to see a user whitelist option eventually, but I am a bit of a security nerd 😛

[rare jewel]

@flat forum my friends tried to join, but all they get is "Server name pending" with "Not authenticated"

[flat forum]

are all of the ports forwarded with UDP?

and has anyone claimed the server?

[rare jewel]

i did claim the server, im in the game

im gonna double check the upd port in my router. one sec

[flat forum]

did you connect with the external or internal ip?

[rare jewel]

my public ip

[flat forum]

then it probably isnt a port issue

but that is still worth a check

[rare jewel]

wait, i myself connected with localhost

not with my ip

[flat forum]

oh

then it probaby is a port issue 😛

There is also a website called "can you see me" that can be used to test if ports are open

[rare jewel]

https://i.imgur.com/CgWD0Lw.png

error

[quick mist]

That site only checks TCP, not UDP, ports.

[hard dove]

ill say right now, my ports come back on most port checkers as closed, but my friend still can connect via web ip

idk if its a me thing or common

[quick mist]

..because most online port checkers don't look at UDP ports

[hard dove]

im new to this, appreciate the input

[flat forum]

Ok my b. That is advice I learned from Minecraft which uses TCP 😝

[fluid turret]

k nevermind that site is also not working

[hard dove]

so question regarding DDNS, that address should connect to the server aswell ? without giveout my ip?

[flat forum]

They can, but, it doesn't hide your IP from anything

[quick mist]

you can connect with a hostname just fine, but anyone with your hostname by definition has your IP

also, there is a bug

[flat forum]

And satisfactory doesn't save ips, it saves their resolved form

[hard dove]

okay, i figured it was just a rerouting and not worth my time

[fluid turret]

and you shouldn't care about people knowing your IP, its called a public IP for a reason

[quick mist]

if your dynamic IP address changes, the server manager saves by the IP address even if you use a hostname to add the server

[flat forum]

^ this right here

[hard dove]

see ive seen different answers to that, glad to have it cleared up

[fluid turret]

if you actually care about stuff like that you wouldn't open any ports or connect to the internet at all

[flat forum]

If you want to get an IP from a DNS just open command prompt and type ping my.customdns.com

Will spit the IP right out lol

But also, it really isn't much of a security risk

[hard dove]

okay, thats all super good to know, not trying to run anything huge but been hesitant to invite randoms

[fluid turret]

having a domain is simply for vanity, ease of typing and sharing

[hard dove]

no increase in communication times for people?

[flat forum]

No

The dns gets "resolved" to your ip internally and then the IP is used after that

So outside maybe a couple milliseconds on first connection there is no performance difference

[quick mist]

^this

think of domain names as like a phone book (if you remember or can conceptualize one).

instead of looking up "John Smith" and getting a phone number of 555-1212, you're looking up johnsmith.dyndns.org and getting an IP address of 169.254.24.56, which your computer then 'dials'

[hard dove]

haha makes sense, just puts a name to the bunch of numbers being my ip

[quick mist]

exactly

[hard dove]

you leave john outta this, hes a good guy

[quick mist]

if he's so good why does he need both a phone and an IP address, the greedy git.

(:

[fluid turret]

dont bring git into this, he is also a good guy

stop sullying his name

[quick mist]

Sully was good at landing without a runway that one time. it's a good name to paint with

[hard dove]

ill say tho, you guys are the unspoken heros, always troubleshooting people like me who have no right running a server haha

[quick mist]

we all remember what it was like when we first started

though it was a lot slower getting help from usenet (:

[hard dove]

yah id assume there wasnt nearly the community or reasources we have now .

[quick mist]

suffice to say it's a lot easier to find good help; the problem is sorting through all the bad (though mostly well-intentioned, yet inaccurate) help (:

[late coral]

Also not having to worry about needing to change your mail address when you switch ISPs. And having mail that is actually private. (Using Soverin in NL)

[flat forum]

This can also be accomplished by just using a 3rd party email service by Google or Microsoft or others, but like everything in computing there are a dozen different ways to do anything

Best rule of thumb, if it works it is the correct way to do it

[hard dove]

so my little look into ue4, most of its single threaded? should cause issues running on 1 core eh?

[upper valve]

yo guys how do i increase the player cap for the server?

[late coral]

Some config file somewhere

[hard dove]

search for it, seen lots of people asnswer it

[upper valve]

ok ok chairs

[hard dove]

GL!

[quick mist]

since this is literally the most frequently asked question, I have added it and its answer to the FAQ section of the Wiki: https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#How_can_I_have_more_than_four_players_in_my_server.3F

[gentle thorn]

Is the self-healing to three bars broken on the dedicate server, or is that just disabled for multiplayer?

[upper valve]

where do i place the custom ini file to increase player cap?

[quick mist]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Configuration

[upper valve]

Thanks

[quick mist]

o/

[upper valve]

Anyone know why some of my friends cant join? They getting like a weird error

2 of them have been able to join tho

[quick mist]

define 'weird error'

if some people are able to connect to the server that is a pretty strong indication that the server is configured correctly

[upper valve]

Yeah 2 mates can join but two cant, ill get a screenshot real quick

This is the error they see

[quick mist]

This looks like your server is not running on the standard port. While this is not inherently a problem (as evidenced by the fact that some folks can connect) is there a reason you chose to do this?

[upper valve]

Ohh ok ok, so how do i change the port?

[quick mist]

it should run on the default ports by, erm, default

are you running/managing the server yourself (either locally or at a hosting provider) or is this a managed server you're leasing from a game-server vendor?

[upper valve]

My server

I disabled the other two ports

[quick mist]

that's a problem

you need to have all three ports enabled and properly forwarded to the server

[acoustic python]

this is a known thing iirc, but - what is it about? 😛

[upper valve]

Oh ok ok, yeah no one can join after deleting all

Aight so how do i change it?

[quick mist]

well if you set the server up using the steps outlined in the Wiki, it should be using the default ports

first things first: is the server running on Windows or Linux?

[upper valve]

windows

[quick mist]

okay. Let's double-check which ports the server is listening on

[upper valve]

Yeah two of them can join, weird

[quick mist]

open a Powershell window, and run this command:

Get-NetUDPEndPoint | Select-Object LocalAddress, LocalPort, @{Name="Process";Expression={(Get-Process -Id $_.OwningProcess).ProcessName}} | Sort-Object -Property LocalPort,Process | Where-Object{$_.Process -like "UE4Server-Win64-Shipping"}

show the results here please

[quick mist]

do you have multiple game servers running right now?

[upper valve]

erm, i dont think so lmao

I have the game running

[quick mist]

something's listening on port 27015/udp, and that's unusual

I'll for the moment assume that nothing is getting in the way.

so the server is listening on the correct ports.

[upper valve]

oh wtf one of them just joined

Oh damn they are in now!

[quick mist]

oh.. kaaay, so that sounds like the server is happy, and if some people can't connect they may just need to keep trying

[upper valve]

Idk what was wrong aye thats wack

Yeah trye

thanks for your help!!

[quick mist]

glad to have, er, helped?

[upper valve]

Yes you did, cheers

Ok wait last thing, where do i place the ini file for increased player cap? @quick mist

[quick mist]

at the location specified in https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Configuration

[upper valve]

Do i have to make the wwindows server folder? Its not there for me

[quick mist]

have you gracefully shut down the server yet? I think it creates that directory the first time it's properly shutdown

(don't just close the server window; go to the Server Manager and use the Console there to send the quit command to shut the server down)

[upper valve]

Oh lmaoooo

Ok i will try that real wuick

still not there

[quick mist]

that's.. odd.

so you have FactoryGame/Saves/Config but no WindowsServer?

[upper valve]

Will it matter if i make the folder manually?

[quick mist]

that should be acceptable

[upper valve]

Yep

ok will try

Yeah no good. im having a thorough read of wiki rn

[summer ravine]

are we able to change how often the server saves? I looked at the wiki and didn't find anything mentioned

[quick mist]

I don't recall a command or setting to adjust the autosave interval off the top of my head, but I'm sure that will be added in a future update

[summer ravine]

sounds good, I have gone through all the ini files as well and didn't find anything

thanks!

[quick mist]

sure thing

[summer ravine]

just wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything lol

[upper valve]

Found it ^^

the directory was in a different location, i think because i am using the server thing from steam

not steam cmd

[quick mist]

ah, that might do it (:

sounds like you're sorted then?

[summer ravine]

what is the name of the file?

I am using Steamcmd

[quick mist]

I think Lach was referring to finding the source of eir problem, not the autosave interval setting. but please, Lach, correct me if I'm wrong (:

[summer ravine]

OHH LOL

cool deal then 🙂

not to sure why, but if you are the owner of the server, than the saved files in AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames\server

[gentle thorn]

I suspect that there might be an issue with the server manager when connecting to a server via DNS, and the IP of the record changes

[quick mist]

Yes, when you add via hostname, it silently looks up the IP and saves it that way. this is a known issue

[gentle thorn]

Cool, better go upvote

[quick mist]

that's to keep the save files save if you decide to nuke and reinstall the server

[summer ravine]

makes sense

[upper valve]

yeah all sorted, thanks for your help :))

[quick mist]

you bet, glad you're in business!

[hard dove]

so hardware wise any idea if an older fx 6300 could manage, its not the biggest single core hitter

[quick mist]

I'm honestly not sure.. all I can say is it can't hurt to try. it's not like the server software isn't free (:

[unreal cave]

Would be fine, I'm running it on an Xeon 2620 v4 and now we reached tier 6/7 the lag/bugs are taking over :p

[quick mist]

hard to complain about that I reckon (:

[unreal cave]

Meh, it's a bit annoying to be honest :p

Now we reached the bigger build we have some annoying glitches :p

Like glitching underneath the map with the explorers

And the inability to see how full belts are :p

[quick mist]

I know for a fact they're working on that last one

[unreal cave]

:D

[pseudo yew]

Happened to me to real sad lol

[unreal cave]

For us it took like 1,5 hours to recover because, the positions kept glitching to coordinates 0,0 after that

We had to recover from a previous save and edit the positions in the save editor

Something about multiple hard drives that were lost :p

[quick mist]

ouch

but honestly so long as you have cast screws, everything else is gravy

[solid ice]

Literally 2 minutes in and had to reboot because of the belts 😦

it must be something else that causes the issue because I just reloaded and the belts immediately broke

so it isn't just time based

[quick mist]

I don't know the cause, but I sure know it happens

[solid ice]

lol I guess I will finish this project one reboot at a time xD

[viscid lodge]

Cannot find GameSaves folder.

Not appearing in /FactoryGame/Saved

I just completed a save in game and console says it was successful

Not sure what to do

[unreal cave]

Linux or Windows?

[quick mist]

Windows or Linux server?

[viscid lodge]

Linux

[unreal cave]

File path should be on the wiki

[quick mist]

look in ~/.config/Epic/

[viscid lodge]

Ah yes

thank you 🙂

[quick mist]

cheers

[green summit]

I see the wiki doesn't mention a container coming soon anymore?

[crude tapir]

Are Trains still fuxxored on Dedis?

[quick mist]

"soon" is subject to interpretation, but my understanding is that CSS is still planning on providing an official Docker image

[quick mist]

they are, shall we say, cantankerous?

[crude tapir]

Perfect

[feral dawn]

Does anyone know if the dedi server has any sort of "Network Quality" option like the client?

[slim spoke]

not yet

[feral dawn]

okay ty 🙂

[viscid lodge]

If I wanted to sell server hosting services am I able to promote that here or? (Satisfactory servers)

[slim spoke]

no

read the rules and pinned messages

[viscid lodge]

Ah okay i just seen them thanks 🙂

[smoky jetty]

i am the only one having big issues whith conveyor belt disapeaering &

[umbral tree]

@quick mist@slim spoke

here is the docker container like you asked

[burnt blaze]

Known bug

[smoky jetty]

only thing is to reboot server i imagine ?

[burnt blaze]

AFAIK

[sour yoke]

Sup? how goes the server hosting?

[quick mist]

Your server is seemingly not running on the standard Game port. That is potentially a problem since -- as I recall -- your hosting rig is expecting the default ports. Correct that with whatever mechanism is being used to start the server within the Docker container and things should start working smoothly.

[slim spoke]

still going ??

[quick mist]

there was roughly a 23 hour pause

[slim spoke]

wow u earned a plate of cookies

still it was 5min fix

glad there is people like u around here

keeps me more grounded

[quick mist]

good, that's an important safety measure in case of an electrical short

[umbral tree]

i cant get are map to load in i tryed pulling the sestion name and it is not working

[faint wagon]

create a new game with the same session name, then move the files out and put in your map files?

[umbral tree]

ok

[scarlet pollen]

partial fix for disappearing belts... not a long-term fix (as rebooting seems to work better)... but leaving render distance and coming back made my missing belts reappear

[quick mist]

yep, that workaround has a pretty good success rate

[scarlet pollen]

awesome

[rare jewel]

Is it possible to run a server even after turning off my computer? I know that you can buy servers, but i made it myself with steamcmd for free.

[quick mist]

see the Wiki, there's a link to a page called 'Running as a Service'

if you set it up that way the server will restart when you reboot the computer

[rare jewel]

Great, will take a look!

[quick mist]

cheers

[rare jewel]

Hm, no luck yet. Could you help me out here? I can't find anything useful..

[quick mist]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers/Running_as_a_Service#Windows

[rare jewel]

Tyvm!

[quick mist]

sure thing.

[stoic relic]

Hello everyone, I've been working on a Satisfactory server configuration for our community. I run our servers through TCAdmin 2.0 which runs the servers as a Guest account within Windows. The default location of the save game (Appdata) is problematic for Windows Guest users since the profile is deleted when the guest logs out. Is there a way to configure a different save location (I'd like to put it in the FactoryGame\Saved folder under the actual server file directory)?

I did some searches on the Q&A forum and in here but didn't see any information. I might have missed it as it has been a long day.

Thank you!

[slim spoke]

no

u could try putting a folder into cmd though

move save

far as i know for the search to find save for load session has to be in a certain spot

and they used the system calls so files are always in same spot for devs

[stoic relic]

Yeah, the workaround I was thinking of doing would be to set a script to run prior to start which copy the files from the server directory to the proper AppData location, then another one when it stops to move those files from AppData to the server folder. I was just hoping there was a more elegant way to do it (like a command line option).

In a past life I did game server configuration for a GSP and this type of behavior was a huge issue for us.

Thanks for your reply @slim spoke, I hope they add that option. Most UE based servers will save to the local folder vs AppData... I do appreciate that this is 100% experimental and they are working these things out.

[slim spoke]

ya we are waiting to see what all we get for options .. check the threads see if that is about things like that we would like

i think there was a thread for people to suggest

[stoic relic]

I'll take a look around. I did upvote this request on the questions forum as well

[slim spoke]

they also had to match the ingame server host stuff so maybe later they can separate and allow it

threads here

server api brainstorming ...

[stoic relic]

I'm not complaining... I'm really happy that they started working on dedicated servers 🙂

[slim spoke]

should join it

i know join that thread though its for people to suggest the ideas for server and the api

[stoic relic]

ty

[sullen dragon]

i am getting this error now and then??

[slim spoke]

keep trying

maybe restart server if its not busy

[sullen dragon]

yeah tried that

[slim spoke]

any diff errors?

cause that looks like it was connecting and lost connection/got dropped

[graceful lagoon]

I like to start my on server but i dont own satisfactoy on steam i hew it on epic.
The steam server tool is not showing up in steam tools list and even the developers they said it should be there even if you dont own the game on steam.
Wath can i du?!😟

[tame solar]

use SteamCMD

follow the tutorial linked in pins/channel description

[graceful lagoon]

pins/channel pls link

[tacit finch]

Did someone already test if the drones have the same problem as Vehicles and Train?

[zealous cairn]

So how good / bad is the dedicated server these days?

is it worthwhile going through setting one up? or does it need babysitting?

[slim spoke]

they are doing pretty good

[tacit finch]

its running quite good

[slim spoke]

well u should setup a restart once a day

[tacit finch]

just some ingame bugs

nah not even that.

[zealous cairn]

I mean, I got a box with 32 cores and 128Gb RAM with a ton of spare capacity..... and I'm wondering if its worth the time to screw around with.....

but sadly, its only a RAID10 of HDDs - no SSD in that system, but at least they're 15k SAS drives....

[slim spoke]

right now while they get them ironed right out the restart helps keep it running good to play on. as they get more done it should get better

[tacit finch]

https://i.imgur.com/si2jRsT.png

This is a decently sized save. No problems with running 24/7 so far

[slim spoke]

but they run nice and it takes that load out of ur game

so cpu can do more for fps

[tacit finch]

as server right?

[zealous cairn]

how much disk space does the dedicated server need? Given that it only has 1.2Tb in the whole server :\

[slim spoke]

haha

[lofty latch]

only about 10GB

[zealous cairn]

@tacit finch yeah, a 2RU box in a colo.....

[tacit finch]

ah k

[slim spoke]

6gb or somethin

ya could be 10

[zealous cairn]

so not too bad.....

[slim spoke]

u should do one up

if u have issues after its run 24 hours then try restarting it

[zealous cairn]

at some point, I have to send up some 1Tb SSDs - but right now, the hardware raid is quick enough for what's in there..... mostly code building and web servers....

sadly, the bullshit RAID controller doesn't have a cache on it, so it's write speeds are pretty crap 😐

but its: 32 x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630 v3 @ 2.40GHz (2 Sockets)

[cinder wind]

My server is running on a bunch of 7200 rpm drives in raid 5 and doesn't have any problems. It runs my Minecraft, Ark, and Conan exiles servers.

[tacit finch]

Mhm...lemme do my math...1.2Tb space in SSD and then a shitty raid controller?

Why SSD?

[zealous cairn]

the drives in there atm are SAS, not SSDs....

[tacit finch]

ahh sas k

[zealous cairn]

iirc, they're 15k 600Gb drives x 4 in RAID10

I've never actually seen the server - it went straight from the seller to the data centre and I never got to play with it hahahah

[tacit finch]

would throw some money at it for a better raid controller. Colo is to expensive for shitty or faulty components.

[slim spoke]

if u got a fast drive that could hold the save .. u could put the folder with saves and configs on it and point to it

since they use system calls to that stuff

😛

[zealous cairn]

yeah - I haven't been able to find a better raid controller under ~$400-500AUD :\

[tacit finch]

Thats why I said throw some money 😄

[lofty latch]

I actually have a library that can be injected into the game server that will redirect ~/.config to wherever you like

[zealous cairn]

I think it needs a Dell H330P to drop in.....

errrr a Dell H730P even

[lofty latch]

IOREDIR_SOURCE=/home/user/.config IODEDIR_DEST=/path/to/wherever/you/want LD_PRELOAD=ioredir.so UE4Server......

[zealous cairn]

just symlink it somewhere else instead?

[slim spoke]

ya and the save/config folders not that big

[lofty latch]

that requires that you know where it's gonna be in the first place 😛

since the directory name is based on the port number

[slim spoke]

make a drive on peice of ram lol

😛

[zealous cairn]

all that being said, I just found a Dell H730P on ebay locally for $150AUD, so I placed an order hahahah

that has 2Gb of NVRAM flash cache on the card....

[slim spoke]

nice

would be sweet if it wasnt to far away

[zealous cairn]

its in the same state as me - so that's a bonus..... but I have to send it to the colo in another state hahahah

[slim spoke]

nice

well u can do the server and have ports ready for it

[zealous cairn]

just wondering if I should send 2 x Samsung 870 EVO 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD in the same package up there hahahha

[slim spoke]

so its not to bad .. at least its not long wait to get it

[velvet abyss]

huh, i just got a message saying my server was restarting. i don't remember setting anything to restart at a specific time

[slim spoke]

its for sanity

[zealous cairn]

given how things are going, it'll take ~10 days to get to me, and probably another 2-3 weeks to get to the colo :\

Australia Post is just royally fucked atm

[hidden rock]

Servers go to sleep for 2 seconds automatically after running 24 hours

[slim spoke]

ahhh

[hidden rock]

And with just 2 seconds of sleep they manage to stay up another 24 hours :)

[velvet abyss]

ah

[hidden rock]

Peak efficiency

[velvet abyss]

i just have never seen it before i guess

makes sense

[slim spoke]

they run on the high octane 4shots of expresso in xl coffee

[pine dock]

Hey, where can we simply send Logfiles so that the Dev's can inspect them, like after a server crash?

[hushed gate]

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports at https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/ - <3 @slim spoke

Nov 9, 2021, 12:32 PM

[slim spoke]

you have to post files to somewhere and link them in your post

[unreal cave]

There really is no use for any kind of fast storage for the Satisfactory server :p
It is only ~4G on disk and does almost to no IO once it's started

[zealous cairn]

tbh, that was more of a general want hahahah

having no write cache is a pain in the ass 😛

[unreal cave]

But it is good for data consistency and crash survivability :p

[zealous cairn]

well, the DC has 3x redundant power phases, so in theory, it should never lose power 😉

hell, the server has 2 PSUs....

but the more UPS in the loop, the more chance one of them will fail 😉

[unreal cave]

Yap :p
But even then, we have had a power outage over multiple DC's over the years that had fully redundant systems 😛
So I always go on the safe side :p

[zealous cairn]

tbh, I'm more likely to screw something up in the middle of the night (like now) and toast the server haahah

[unreal cave]

Hehe xD

[zealous cairn]

but hey - I got a $5 discount on that RAID card, so its only $145AUD 😄

even if it doesn't work, I'd still try it for that price hahahha

given even the second hand stores are wanting $450AUD+ for them

[unreal cave]

Nice price :D

I just use JBOD/ceph for most of my servers.
And then just a raid 1 for the hypervisor

[zealous cairn]

its the annoying mini cards that have the pinned out special connector for the RAID card

otherwise they don't show properly in the iDRAC and become a pain in the ass to deal with remotely

[unreal cave]

That is annoying :p

[zealous cairn]

yeah - problem with that is when you're doing remote hands too - its easy to say "put that drive in the bay with the flashing light"

[unreal cave]

I just use the command line utilities from within the hypervisor to manage em 🤷

[zealous cairn]

otherwise, its a 2 hour flight each way + uber for me to get hands on hahaha

[unreal cave]

That is alot of expenses :p

[zealous cairn]

if that wasn't the case, I doubt I'd even use a hardware raid card.....

[unreal cave]

I just have 500/500 fiber at home and run em locally :p

Easier and less expensive

[zealous cairn]

my hosting is free hahahaha

[unreal cave]

Nice xD

[zealous cairn]

well, not free..... it also hosts a stratum 1 NTP clock that's been keeping the ISPs stuff in line for nearly a decade....... just upgraded the hardware along the way

if I could get a reasonable GPS signal in the DC, I'd change it to a stratum 0......

but alas.....

[unreal cave]

Any kind of external signal in a DC can be a problem to receive :p

Especially when the DC is underground or build like bunker :p

[zealous cairn]

hmmmm - the steam download has hung :\

[unreal cave]

Any error?

Or where did it stop?

[zealous cairn]

just stopped scrolling the lines...... wouldn't let me Ctrl + C either hahah

reboot, started it again, and now its downloading about 8x faster......

go figure.

[unreal cave]

Strange :p

[zealous cairn]

must have picked a more local mirror this time

3 minutes from 28% -> 80%

So I only need UDP 15777 / 15000 / 7777 open, right?

[unreal cave]

Yap

Running it on windows or linux?

[zealous cairn]

linux of course hahahah

[unreal cave]

Nice :)

Then I would recommend the systemd service file to run it

[zealous cairn]

I like that there's an example systemd file that does an update first 🙂

[unreal cave]

Yap :)

[zealous cairn]

but too bad none of the paths match the example for installation 😄

[quick mist]

It's not like that's rocket surgery to resolve though

[zealous cairn]

I know - I'm just picky 😉

[zealous cairn]

ok, time to reboot into Windows and see if I can connect 🙂

[quick mist]

out of curiosity (and I mean that; I don't care if it's Knoppix)- what distro?

[versed merlin]

“Doctor, he’s crashing!!!”

“We need 30cc’s of MotoSynth.ini injected into the RuntimeOptions.ini, STAT! And get me the guy in Toronto who’s an expert in EditorScriptingUtilities.ini via discord video chat!”

[versed merlin]

BeOS

[quick mist]

A lamented friend
An old curious POSIX
Implementation which is
Beyond end-of-life

[zealous cairn]

well, that worked - connected and adopted fine.

[quick mist]

sweet

[zealous cairn]

this is running on Fedora 35

[quick mist]

for the next few weeks anyhow (: Fedora's rolling these days, right?

[zealous cairn]

1 player, 6% CPU usage hahahaha

[slim spoke]

lol

[zealous cairn]

nah, its still release driven......

[unreal cave]

Is that on a single core? :p

Or total

[zealous cairn]

well, the VM has 4 cores

good question though....

[unreal cave]

Server is only single threaded :p

[slim spoke]

ya but has the dedi got updated for that yet.. it came out as 1 core/thread

🙂

[zealous cairn]

14% of a single core

[slim spoke]

its in the works though to be fixed

[zealous cairn]

is the "Status" tab supposed to show TIMED OUT?

or did I miss something?

[slim spoke]

server manager?

[zealous cairn]

yeah

[slim spoke]

did u do localhost or 127

[zealous cairn]

nah, a public IP

[slim spoke]

external then make sure port forwards are setup

[zealous cairn]

ports: 7777/udp 15000/udp 15777/udp

[slim spoke]

router firewalls and such

yup if none were used before

did u use docker or anything?

[zealous cairn]

nah

[slim spoke]

k

should be ports

[zealous cairn]

udp6       0      0 :::15777                :::*                                1524/UE4Server-Linu 
udp6       0      0 :::7777                 :::*                                1524/UE4Server-Linu 
udp6       0      0 :::15000                :::*                                1524/UE4Server-Linu 

its listening ok

[slim spoke]

are u on lan with it?

[zealous cairn]

nah - its in another state hahaha

[slim spoke]

ahh kk

and ur using ipv6 ip ?

[zealous cairn]

nah, its ipv4, but the ipv6 udp socket means it listens on both iirc

[slim spoke]

thats why

[quick mist]

On Fedora, binding to :::<port> implies 0.0.0.0:port

[slim spoke]

list is jsut v6 listening

[quick mist]

no it's listening to both

[zealous cairn]

I can connect to the server ok

[slim spoke]

what status is showing timed out

[zealous cairn]

oh, wait - now I can't 😐

[quick mist]

o.O

if for some reason the IPv6 stack is tipping over, you can add to the server startup args -multihome 0.0.0.0 and that will force it to only use IPv4

[zealous cairn]

LogGame: Error: Network Error Recived: Type: ConnectionTimeout, MSG: UNetConnection::Tick: Connection TIMED OUT. Closing connection.. Elapsed: 5.02, Real: 5.02, Good: 5.02, DriverTime: 660.01, Threshold: 5.00, [UNetConnection] RemoteAddr: [::ffff:<MY IP>]:53982, Name: IpConnection_2147476477, Driver: IpNetDriver_2147478406 IpNetDriver_2147478406, IsServer: YES, PC: NULL, Owner: NULL, UniqueId: INVALID

[slim spoke]

oh error msg lol

thought u meant ur server manager

[quick mist]

yep it looks like the client was indeed transitioning to IPv6

[slim spoke]

ya but his eos didnt go

maybe server restart

if beacon port isnt good it will drop u like a hot potato also .. so might be worth a check

[zealous cairn]

I'm trying with -multihome 0.0.0.0 now..... but that shouldn't matter... in theory....

it recognised the server was online though.....

[slim spoke]

on server cmd line it does

[zealous cairn]

now it says offline when I'm restarting it on the dedicated server

[quick mist]

Lots of things about IPv6 in practice are theoretical IME

[slim spoke]

multihome v4 and v6

[zealous cairn]

"Server is preparing a new game"
"Could not connect to the server"

[slim spoke]

ipv4, v6

[unreal cave]

How much ram does it have?

[slim spoke]

see what happens

he has tons

[zealous cairn]

8Gb

on that VM anyway

[unreal cave]

Should be enough

[slim spoke]

well the one coming will be good lol

he is playing with it now

[zealous cairn]

eyyy - now I can connect 😄

[unreal cave]

What was the issue? 😛

[zealous cairn]

no idea - it gave me the TIMED OUT error multiple times, I clicked on a few different tabs, and then it started responding......

but while I'm connected, if I go to Server Manager, then check the status tab, it tells me I'm not connected and the TIMED OUT error happens

[unreal cave]

Strange :p

[zealous cairn]

yet I'm in the session

[unreal cave]

You also have IPv6 available locally?

[zealous cairn]

not atm

that VM doesn't have IPv6 set up either

kept hitting retry and now it works hahahah

the Load Game and Save Game are save files on the server, right?

thank god for that.... I just thought I hosed my many, many hour local save hahahah

well, given that's running, and its now past 1am, I think I'll shut it down, go sleep and play later hahaha

thanks for the help / pointers..... makes life easier when you're tired hahaha

[unreal cave]

o/

[versed merlin]

SHut it down?! set it to stay running when empty and come back to full storage containers and a power failure you can’t figure out.. 😄

and stalled production

[zealous cairn]

well, more cos I want to try and transfer my local save onto the server 😉

so I'll have to trash a session or something first....

but that can wait until I don't have to be up in 6 hours for work hahaha

[versed merlin]

touché. 😄

I’m actually at work 😄

[cough] “working” [/cough]

[zealous cairn]

thankfully, at 1:13am, I'm not at work hahaha

[unreal cave]

Yes

[zealous cairn]

ok, gotta run.... thanks again all

[unreal cave]

Cya o/

[versed merlin]

ciao

[tacit finch]

Ok the only Transport Vehicle working without problems on dedicated servers is the Drone....Mhm...

[burnt blaze]

Yeah it's a bummer

[fleet silo]

are there any open public dedicated servers?

[tacit finch]

#looking-for-group-old

[indigo fractal]

Dedicated servers on epic

They will be available like next year

Or next month?

[quick mist]

They will be available from EOS as soon as Epic deigns to make them so.

in the meantime, the software is freely available to all from SteamCMD

[versed merlin]

This means you don’t have to have an account on steam to run the dedicated server from the command line. 😄

[severe badge]

any knowledge on what effect (if any) the -NO_EOS_OVERLAY and -USEALLAVAILABLECORES startup parameters have on dedicated servers?

[versed merlin]

saw a few days ago that the USEALLAVAILABLECORES did less than we would have expected how the game’s usage of loops works.

Now, this was before a couple of the recent patches, and I’ve been camping in the Adirondacks so something may have changed

[quick mist]

There have been no further patches since the dual-IP-stack fix

[severe badge]

OK, thanks. I've enabled both options, and so far haven't noticed any perceptible differences. But then again, I only allocated 4 cores to the VM

[clever sonnet]

First of all, I want to thank the CoffeeStainers for getting this dedicated server out 🙂

I'm setting up a server with docker using some of the community GitHub images available so far and it seems working fine.
That said I'm looking for a way to increase the number of savegames the server does, it seems to rotate 3 savegames, and after reading this channel quite extensively, i saw people talking about FG.AutoSaveInterval and FG.ShowAutoSaveNotifications , but couldn't find where to setup those, and anything for number of rotating saves to keep (i would like increase that number to 50 for example, and if possible use a timestamp in the name of the save)

Is this something planned or possible ? (like a FG.MaximumRotatingSaves = 50 feature to put in one of the INI files of the game ?)

And format them to something like this (having timestamp instead of current 0,1,2) ?

SessionName_autosave_$timestamp1.sav
SessionName_autosave_$timestamp2.sav
SessionName_autosave_$timestamp3.sav
...
SessionName_autosave_$timestamp50.sav

Hope this makes sense.

Thanks in advance & continue the great work !

[vocal jungle]

yes there is a setting for number of saves

[clever sonnet]

@vocal jungle do you mind sharing that information, I unfortunately wasn't successful in finding that option, and where to apply it on a dedicated server ?

[vocal jungle]

looking for it i know it exists someone said it here a week ago and it stayed in my head

but no the name of the setting

[clever sonnet]

ok, appreciated, i only found the 2 options I mentioned, but started yesterday looking for it 🙂

[quick mist]

Putting a timestamp in the filename is superfluous as it's in the metadata (see e. g. the output of stat filename.

[clever sonnet]

@quick mist that's only useful if you can see that information from elsewhere, not very practical for backing up the save elsewhere which could rewrite that metadata

With the timestamp in the filename it would be very visual without requiring a third party tool to know which savegame file = date

[feral dawn]

@clever sonnet i am pretty sure you need to edit FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/GameUserSettings.ini

under [/Script/FactoryGame.FGGameUserSettings] find mFloatValues

add ("FG.AutosaveInterval", 1200.000000) to the value

ie:

[clever sonnet]

@feral dawn thanks !

[rose valley]

You can also set those values through the in game server console.

[feral dawn]

mFloatValues=(("RTPC.Master_Bus_Volume", 1.000000),("RTPC.Music_Bus_Volume", 0.000000),("FG.FOV", 120.000000),("FG.FirstPersonFOVModifier", 1.300000),("FG.MouseSensitivity", 0.014267),("FG.AutosaveInterval", 1200.000000))

[rose valley]

They get added to the ini files and saved for you.

[feral dawn]

ah i didnt know this ^

[clever sonnet]

is there a place that exposes all the available "keys" and potential values/default ?

@rose valley thank you, didn't know that.

[feral dawn]

Bogdan, do you have an example of setting these values via the cli?

[vocal jungle]

@rose valley but whats the one for say have 5 saveslots over 3

[rose valley]

<variableName> will just display the current value.

<variableName> <value> will set a new value.

[clever sonnet]

yeah saveslots would be appreciated, i want a "lot" 😉

[feral dawn]

oh that's nice

[rose valley]

Don't remember from the top of my head but it was discussed in this channel before.

[vocal jungle]

I know i cant find it ether lol

[sly flint]

I am unsure if this is particular to the dedicated server but I have found several trees which can be cut over and over again and always drop resources.
https://youtu.be/cZ0DxcUe_G0

[clever sonnet]

yeah i went back a long way, but it was challenging, if we could find those back and add them to the wiki page

[raven kite]

This the place for troubleshooting related to ded-servers, right?

[clever sonnet]

I wonder if there is a file with all the INI keys/available somewhere so I could just check the stuff i'm interested in for the savegames 🙂

[feral dawn]

well that's useful 😄

[raven kite]

I can't seem to connect to a friend's dedicated server. I was able to do so last night, and at one point, buildings weren't materializing when I set them. They were remaining in blueprint form and taking my resources, so I exited out to see if reloading fixed the issue. Haven't been able to reconnect since. This is what my friend's log reports when I try to connect:

[2021-11-09 17:31:37] [LogOnlineSession]: Warning: OSS: EOS-OSS: No game present to join for session (GameSession)
[2021-11-09 17:31:37] [LogNet]: Join succeeded: TheNightmareTank
[2021-11-09 17:31:37] [LogNetPackageMap]: Warning: FNetGUIDCache::SupportsObject: Desc_CartridgeStandard_C /Game/FactoryGame/Map/GameLevel01/Persistent_Level.Persistent_Level:PersistentLevel.Equip_Rifle_C_2147083696.Desc_CartridgeStandard_C_2147468618 NOT Supported.
[2021-11-09 17:37:36] [LogNetPackageMap]: Warning: FNetGUIDCache::SupportsObject: Desc_CartridgeStandard_C /Game/FactoryGame/Map/GameLevel01/Persistent_Level.Persistent_Level:PersistentLevel.Equip_Rifle_C_2147083696.Desc_CartridgeStandard_C_2147468618 NOT Supported.
[2021-11-09 17:37:36] [LogGame]: Removing Detail Actor from Owner: 0x%I64X
[2021-11-09 17:37:36] [LogGame]: Warning: BP_MaterialEffect_Dismantle_C_2147468395::SetMeshes, This cannot be called after PreStarted.
[2021-11-09 17:37:36] [LogNet]: UChannel::ReceivedSequencedBunch: Bunch.bClose == true. ChIndex == 0. Calling ConditionalCleanUp.
[2021-11-09 17:37:36] [LogNet]: UChannel::CleanUp: ChIndex == 0. Closing connection.```

Meanwhile, this is all I see: An endless loading screen. Even the flavour texts reached the end of their cycle.

[feral dawn]

Annoyingly DumpConsoleCommands isnt a thing in Satisfactory 😦

[raven kite]

It seems to be whining about my Rifle for some reason, but I can't seem to do anything about it.

[feral dawn]

@raven kite - While maybe not the best solution, the server host could use a save game editor to delete your player, if your player has become corrupted. Perhaps someone has a better solution.

[clever sonnet]

@feral dawn did you find a list of all FG.xyz commands possible ?

[feral dawn]

in the game client yes

but, not the server 😦

[clever sonnet]

ohh where is that ?

[feral dawn]

If u wanna know for the game client, open the games console (press the Tilda key twice to get the big console version)

then type FG. and look at the possible values it gives

nothing there to do with save slots though, but that might be a cvar that is only on the server software, but it's not possible to dump the commands from what i can tell

[clever sonnet]

ok i was trying that on the "server" console but it doesn't seem to autocomplete, will try on the client.

[feral dawn]

yeah, that's why i was hoping DumpConsoleCommands was in this

[rose valley]

Dump them on the client (help)

[feral dawn]

not a thing, according to the console

[rose valley]

Most of the things apply for the server as well, except obviously gfx related things.

Do it from the main console, not the server console.

[feral dawn]

that is the games console

as in, it's the console accessed with the Tilda key.

[rose valley]

Goddamn. I could swear this worked before. Maybe it's only there in dev builds.

[feral dawn]

Ah a shame, highly possible!

Is it possible these cvars will be searchable in the header zip that is supplied with the game?

[rose valley]

Just hang tight. All the important options will slowly be added to the UI.

No, they won't be there. Most cvars are defined in CPP files, not in headers.

[feral dawn]

ah, okay - worth a shot

thanks for your help though 🙂

[hidden rock]

Wheres the #ThanksBogdan emote

[rose valley]

Wish I could have done more.

[feral dawn]

You responded at all, more than what most game devs do from what i know lol 😛

[clever sonnet]

@rose valley if you find the number of saves option somewhere too, i'm looking on the local client with autocompletion on FG.x but can only find interval save & notification option

[rose valley]

Won't be able to look until tomorrow but I will try to remember.

[clever sonnet]

thanks, appreciated !

[quick mist]

I once got an email back from John Romero when I recognized his name from the Wolf3d and Doom credits and correlated it to the games' source code I used to punch in from Nibble. Devs often like to interact; it's a question of having sufficient time to (:

[quick mist]

Throw it up on the QA site so the idea doesn't get lost (:

[rose valley]

And the right kind of community.

[feral dawn]

@clever sonnet looking through the header files (because i wanted to ensure it wasnt there)

there is a setting called mNumRotatingAutosaves which lives in [/Script/FactoryGame.FGGameUserSettings]

just checking to see if it works

ah wait it doesnt live there.

[clever sonnet]

@feral dawn where would I apply this ? in the game.ini file ? (I can't seem to find that option in the console directly or which namespace it belongs to ?)

[feral dawn]

i'll double check it works first, then tell ya

no point giving u info if it doesnt work haha

[clever sonnet]

i can try no worries 😄

[feral dawn]

alright sure erm

[clever sonnet]

we are all here to help if possible 😄

[feral dawn]

soo

FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/GameUserSettings.ini

[/Script/FactoryGame.FGSaveSession]
mNumRotatingAutosaves=10

I've added this to the top of my INI file, but i dont know much about the engine and if it will even set it, but worth a go

[clever sonnet]

I didn't have a GameUserSettings.ini, only Engine/Game/Scalability.ini files, trying with yours and report back soon 🙂

[feral dawn]

I set my autosave to be every 4 seconds and it's not doing what i expect, still 3 saves

but it was fun to look 😄

[rose valley]

That's some pretty impressive detective work. You'd probably need to put that into a different in file tho. Look at the start of the class in the UCLASS definition, for a keyword config

[feral dawn]

ah

thank you, lets see

aaaaaaaah

yes yes!

Ain't we all learning eh

[rare drum]

Best way to post logs and get a possible bug fixed?

[quick mist]

QA site, Skipp

[feral dawn]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[rare drum]

Awesome thank you gents, got a gnarly bug with the train system. Keeps on breaking our game when it has too much at a certain station.

[feral dawn]

@rose valley thank you !

Works in Engine.ini like a charm!

[rare drum]

You using the latest Ptero egg?

[feral dawn]

Er, not sure tbh - not updated the egg since the -multihome commit

I ammended ?listen myself though

Who has access to modify the wiki?

[quick mist]

anyone who registers for a free account. Including potentially yourself