anyway whoever told me to put -multihome in the other script gets a free internet beer on me
#dedicated-servers
fervent wharf
@limber flare thanks man, that worked!
slim spoke
just enjoy the game greg that makes it worth it
slim spoke
im more waiting for future fixes by choice so its nice to see others loving it
and more people i help play more .. more info for devs
alpine dawn
lol well...I can confirm that explosives still dont work
quick mist
womp womp
limber flare
lol well...I can confirm that explosives still dont work
does it crash the server, or just not work in game?
alpine dawn
they just dont go anywhere
faint wagon
the rebar gun works
alpine dawn
yeah no explosion animation either
faint wagon
so they patched that
modern beacon
this latest update broke it for me, won't bind to address/port 😦
alpine dawn
yep
slim spoke
multihome
modern beacon
aah, just got to work out how to add that to lgsm
quick mist
|| if y'all keep just handing out fishes no one will ever learn to feed 'emselves ||
slim spoke
ya just add to cmdline for server
alpine dawn
this latest update broke it for me, won't bind to address/port 😦
if you set it up as a systemd service I suggest you add -multihome=yourip to start_server.sh like so FactoryServer.sh -multihome=192.168.0.3
slim spoke
agreed dope id rather show them a lake full of fish and give them the rod
alpine dawn
worked great for me
slim spoke
unless its technical
quick mist
if you set it up as a systemd service I suggest you add -multihome=yourip to sta...
yep, that's what I did here.. only I don't have a start_server.sh because it's not needed:
alpine dawn
oh gotcha
long sable
On a slightly related note, is -log -unattended necessary for the server on linux? I thought I remember reading the wiki say that those parameters are prebaked in the linux server.
slim spoke
no
quick mist
they are, Prox (pre-baked in that is)
slim spoke
it coul dhave window and use resources for nothing
quick mist
..but it doesn't, it just vomits to stdout
slim spoke
u want those 2 so can check errors incase .. and it runs better with unattended
long sable
I'm pretty sure mine is still outputting to a log without the -log parameter
Ok, just was making sure, because a lot of the configs I've seen people showing after the multihome change have those two parameters
slim spoke
well like dope said its baked into it
quick mist
yeah. it doesn't do any harm to add them.. they just do nothing
slim spoke
linux has some stuff that is forced that windows doesnt
thats some of it
sorry dope didnt mean to get in ur way explaining
slim spoke
yup yup im just on team everyoneshouldbeabletoplay
quick mist
hear hear
long sable
^
hoary ridge
fyi @low thorn my issue with connecting on high ping was not resolved in the latest update, I havent had a chance to try connecting to any other servers on high ping so might be just this one idk
slim spoke
in this room its been pretty good for most part with people working together and getting along which has been really nice
not supposed to PING devs with @ name
hoary ridge
not supposed to PING devs with @ name
i was specifically asked to
slim spoke
ok its just what people get told when they ping devs
hoary ridge
he was looking at my issue yesterday
slim spoke
anyways its just so others dont ping the devs cause u did
hoary ridge
im in australia trying to conenct to german server xd
slim spoke
not really giving ya trouble i get it
hoary ridge
not really giving ya trouble i get it
were cool man
does anyone have a server up i can try and connect to so I can see if my issue is specifc to this server
slim spoke
i can fire a game to connect to .. i dont have dedi ready to fire
heavy steeple
So I have a server running. Saw there was an update today and when I used the updater line from the wiki, my save got wiped. Is this going to happen each time the server is updated or did I add a command I shouldn't have?
slim spoke
if that works then dedi should
bleak oar
anyones server having issues starting since new patch?
slim spoke
yes lots
heavy steeple
My server starts just fine and can join it, just my progress got wiped.
slim spoke
multihome needs to be used in cmd line to start
can roll up and see or look at wiki for cmd
bleak oar
my docker is crashing constantly
slim spoke
vaeroth u need to load session name for ur save
heavy steeple
And so if I don't set a session name, it will be lost?
slim spoke
u will be on new save i guess
cause ur not loading the save to play on
it cleared info when u updated
so just tell it to load the right save and ur back
session name is first part of savename of file
heavy steeple
Well the name of my server is there
slim spoke
it just needs to be told what to load
heavy steeple
How do I direct it then? I can't do that in the game.
slim spoke
its like new server u have save file in folder already
heavy steeple
It shows my Server name.
slim spoke
server manger
be admin and load session
can try reading the wiki page
its got better written info about loading session
gentle thorn
that points me in the right direction
Try something like ./Engine/Binaries/Linux/UE4Server-Linux-Shipping FactoryGame -multihome=$(hostname -i)
heavy steeple
Read the Wiki
When I go into Server Manager, I see the name of my server there. When I clicked on it, all it would do is let me create a new session.
slim spoke
maybe start it and save then load session
dont know i didnt read how to load a session
i just know if u load ur session .. u will be good
just need cmd and session name .. then issue to server
console or ssh depending on u
hoary ridge
once u create a new sessionu could probably rename the new session to: sessionnameold and rename the old one to sessionname
heavy steeple
Yeah, it can't locate my session. We weren't that far. So just going to recreate it and start over. Last time I just created a server name and not a session when I was setting up the admin stuff.
bleak oar
Try something like `./Engine/Binaries/Linux/UE4Server-Linux-Shipping FactoryGame...
i believe i got it working. i just added multihome to my start script
slim spoke
i think he has to create one so he can then load session from before by session name
it loads the save then will be like b4
bleak oar
is there somewhere they posted what this patch addressed?
heavy steeple
I think the main issue is that I never selected a session name the first time around. Just named my server
slim spoke
ur save u played has a session name either u or game gave it one
its in the filename of the save
save name is like .... wordwords - somestuff -something.sav
wordwords is session name
so u use cmd with just the part of wordwords
but i think u have to create the new one first then use cmd
or it wont load it
could search here its been mentioned lots before .. someone probably wrote it out nice
hoary ridge
Many more settings can be changed manually by editing ini files, which are located in the installation directory: Config file locations per platform Platform Path (relative to installation dir) Windows FactoryGame\Saved\Config\WindowsServer\ Linux FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/
check the config file maybe u can specify ur save location there
edgy crag
Oh jesus an update came out and now everything is borked SOS
slim spoke
just need to fix cmd line with multihome and maybe load ur session up
safe haven
I wish we could get a pinned message here.
slim spoke
we can just have to ask a mod or dev(when here) to add/change it
the wiki is changing fast though so posting links to things now would be pain
hoary ridge
`1. Find the desired save file and Session name in the Load tab in the main menu.
Session Name is of critical importance, save files only display it if they haven't been renamed while being saved, the only way to see the Session Name otherwise is from the Load Menu or a save editor`
the DS wiki pages have been pretty stable, Sanctum
other than adding the post-release note today
hoary ridge
`. Insert the Session Name from step 1 into the server settings tab in Server Manager, press ↵ Enter. The server should initiate a search for the save file with the matching Session Name.
To reiterate, Session Name & Save File Name are not the same, Session Name cannot be changed without a save editor, renaming a .sav file does not change the Session Name.`
Hrm, my dedicated server update is stuck at 18%
slim spoke
well i dont plan to sit and bug people all the time to fix pins
u can if u want lol
its got a link to the lake full of fish.. im happy
quick mist
aye
hoary ridge
i mean u just need to ping the dedi serv wiki page, if ppl are unable to use navigation menus they shouldnt be setting up a dedicated server either
slim spoke
ya i kind of use it as my line of how much i want to help someone
more they help themself more i want to help if i can
hoary ridge
dedicated servers are made for powerusers, in client server is made for kiddys and whatnot
slim spoke
at this time especially i would agree
with patching and changes its ruff with kids and such
hoary ridge
obvously if a noob is really nice about it its worth helping them
quick mist
well everyone has a "First Game Server I Have Ever Set Up"; you gotta start somewhere
slim spoke
but its lots of good data for fixes
hoary ridge
otherwise i would just ignore them
wet cedar
The latest update makes the server segfault. I see from prior discussion in here that using -multihome=0.0.0.0 is an additional argument fixes it, but why is this necessary?
gentle thorn
It took me all of 15 seconds to roll in here and see that there was an IP binding issue and see the fix. I wasn't even done rebuilding my docker image with the latest build
hoary ridge
if ur not a poweruser you 100% should not be touching dedicated servers rn they are so buggy haha
quick mist
because doing so forces the server to only bind to the address you specify, @wet cedar
slim spoke
yup true dope .. i just like to see they are trying and im not just pasting the wiki to read here not there
safe haven
Indeed. I set up my first game server around age 12. I was probably just as impatient and annoying too.
quick mist
the problem is that it tries to bind by default to the UDP ports on all IPv4 interfaces twice by default
the second binding fails and it blows up
wet cedar
That's definitely a bug then.
quick mist
aye
safe haven
Even just short-term, an easy patch would be to add the -multihome=0.0.0.0 line to the FactoryServer.sh file provided by the steamcmd image.
So I do wonder if we'll see this.
quick mist
not really as that forces IPv4
you can use (only) IPv6 if you want to
also if they add that to the script and you supply -multihome 192.168.1.66, you're in the same situation where you try to bind twice
safe haven
It seems like it'd be a lot easier to set this and recommend people edit it for ipv6, than to have a server that will crash on startup.
slim spoke
its better to just bind to adapter on the net
safe haven
Although, I do wonder.. if we set it to bind to :: would that also work for ipv4?
quick mist
Although, I do wonder.. if we set it to bind to `::` would that also work for ip...
no because that's an IPv6 address
safe haven
no because that's an IPv6 address
Yeah well uh.. you're an anycast address stuck in a hot potato routing scenario!
Yeah that'll show you..
quick mist
well I said "no" but I didn't Science it so I might be incorrect
slim spoke
0.0.0.0 tells that random computer u know nothing about to bind to all devices it can .. so that alone could cause other things
thats why i said better to bind it to adapter
safe haven
0.0.0.0 tells that random computer u know nothing about to bind to all devices i...
What random computer? That's a weird description.
quick mist
for best results (usually), use -multihome=$(hostname -I | awk '{print $1}')
safe haven
Yes, 0.0.0.0 is shorthand to bind to all network devices. Which is exactly what the server did prior to this update.
quick mist
but 0.0.0.0 behaves as the prior release(s) did
slim spoke
which caused unknown issues lol so we said bind to proper adapter
just pointing that out u can tell them ur thing thats cool
it does work so im not being that guy
ur fix would go nuts on my network with net adapter lan adapter and others all in same set
safe haven
I'm just thinking that if they know what that 0.0.0.0 represents then they probably have sufficient knowledge to adapt it as necessary. I can't imagine a situation where they've accidentally gotten themselves a multi-network setup but also don't know how to use it and it also breaks something.
quick mist
binding to 0.0.0.0 out-of-the-box is incredibly common and I'd even say expected behavior
safe haven
In which case they probably deserve things to break as they might actually be cursed.
quick mist
it's nothing to write home about
but best practice is to only bind to the interface you need to bind to
safe haven
I don't dispute that. But we're only talking about an out-of-the-box configuration which I still argue would be better than just immediately crashing.
slim spoke
just fix the bug instead .. would make more sense to me
quick mist
the thing is you don't want an OoTB config which will crash if you correctly use a documented option
safe haven
just fix the bug instead .. would make more sense to me
Some bugs are hard to fix.
quick mist
this one is pretty simple, they need to change the second default binding on the Linux build from an IPv4 binding to an IPv6 binding
slim spoke
no reason to patch with workaround which is use proper bind really
sharp herald
So what is a proper bind?
slim spoke
they still have to fix it so they just fix it and we workaround with the cmdline and when fixed the cmd line just means it uses right adapter still and nothing changes
safe haven
A 2-minute patch without incrementing version number would resolve the issue for most new installs. Then a future patch would fix the proper behaviour.
I'd rather that than a hasty patch that then fails to work as this one clearly did.
sharp herald
Surely not use MY ISP address
slim spoke
no its bind to internall
so server is linked to adapters to send data to
setup of server doesnt change
safe haven
I mean technically it could if you're using an IPv6 network, though it'd be a subnet on the assigned /64 prefix.
slim spoke
its just add the multihome to the cmd line used to start it
quick mist
okay I'm going to ask we maybe wave off the could've should've discussion as it's getting in the way of answering an actual "help me" question for Euripedus
safe haven
God I'm so fed up with NAT..
quick mist
@sharp herald the simplest answer is to use -multihome=0.0.0.0 in nearly all cases
safe haven
FactoryServer.sh
#!/bin/sh
UE4_TRUE_SCRIPT_NAME=$(echo \"$0\" | xargs readlink -f)
UE4_PROJECT_ROOT=$(dirname "$UE4_TRUE_SCRIPT_NAME")
chmod +x "$UE4_PROJECT_ROOT/Engine/Binaries/Linux/UE4Server-Linux-Shipping"
"$UE4_PROJECT_ROOT/Engine/Binaries/Linux/UE4Server-Linux-Shipping" FactoryGame -multihome=0.0.0.0 "$@"
that will bind the server to all of your IPv4 interfaces
safe haven
If you don't know how to add the switch, just replace the contents of the file as shown above and start it up.
sharp herald
This is for hosting multiplayer servers that are public?
quick mist
yes
sharp herald
ah thought so
quick mist
or (semi-) private
safe haven
It'd be necessary for public or local/LAN.
sharp herald
I usually leave my monster computer up and running
lol anyone else got 128 Gb of RAM?
didn't think so.
alpine dawn
I do at work
rocky sentinel
yes
quick mist
I routinely use machines with 256GiB
safe haven
I had 32 but two sticks seem to have failed on me.
alpine dawn
hyperv server
sharp herald
damn! I'm not alone in my world domination scheme
safe haven
It's not what hardware you have but what you do with it.
rich void
Although, I do wonder.. if we set it to bind to `::` would that also work for ip...
I set my server to :: and my client machine connected via IPv4 since it used the IPv6 reserved address for IPv4. It works.
sharp herald
right. I do alot of things with this bad boy. modelling, animation, gaming, and so on
quick mist
I set my server to :: and my client machine connected via IPv4 since it used the...
Yay for Science!
slim spoke
congrats syririus
safe haven
I set my server to :: and my client machine connected via IPv4 since it used the...
Is that an internal connection or over a LAN?
rich void
Is that an internal connection or over a LAN?
over LAN, my server had IPv6 binding. My client is my main machine and when I connected, I saw on the logs that it converted the IPv4 to IPv6. Let me copy/paste the relevant log
quick mist
Thanks for the bug tonight, CSS; so much Science is coming out of it!
safe haven
I have a dream.
A dream that one day my server won't be connected over a 100mbit powerline connection.
quick mist
PoE or EoP?
safe haven
EoP.
quick mist
I have the same in my apartment. I hate it.
safe haven
What kind of server do you have, that you can run it with PoE? O_o
I know you can get hats for the Pi3 and 4.
quick mist
but they won't permit me to bring in an electrician at my expense and wire Cat6. I asked.
safe haven
But it limits the connection to 100mbit and adds 4ms of latency.
Still, far better than WiFi.
rich void
[2021.11.04-01.12.47:520][108]LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::ffff:10.0.0.7]:51807 [2021.11.04-01.12.48:525][138]LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection: Server OnlineBeaconHost_2147475492 accept [2021.11.04-01.12.48:525][138]LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::ffff:10.0.0.7]:51807 [2021.11.04-01.12.48:525][138]LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection: Server OnlineBeaconHost_2147475492 accept [2021.11.04-01.12.48:525][138]LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::ffff:10.0.0.7]:51807 [2021.11.04-01.12.48:559][139]LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection: Server OnlineBeaconHost_2147475492 accept [2021.11.04-01.12.48:559][139]LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::ffff:10.0.0.7]:51807 [2021.11.04-01.12.48:559][139]LogNet: Server accepting post-challenge connection from: [::ffff:10.0.0.7]:51807
keen orchid
yeah number one thing i added when building my house was dual ethernet to every room
quick mist
I hope to one day have enough money to contemplate such things as having my own house built.
safe haven
I have a Unifi AC Lite and it sits about.. 2 meters from my server. There's a ceiling in the way.
And despite that, even over 2.4GHz a file transfer can add upwards of 5000ms latency.
slim spoke
ouch
safe haven
I do the same on powerline and the 4ms latency goes up to maybe around 120 at worst, usually closer to 20.
slim spoke
celiing means wall = pull a cable lol
keen orchid
i bought at just the right time... house the same as mine being built next year are already about 15-20% more expensive
slim spoke
ur making me cry with that latency
safe haven
Rented place means gotta ask permission.
We've been here nearly 25 years. We've never even seen the landlord.
safe haven
I'm not qualified to do this kind of thing, honestly.
slim spoke
anyways i shouldnt drive off the road 🙂
quick mist
so long as the road is metaphorical
rich void
Just press E to get back on the rail 😛
slim spoke
yup i dont drive so its safe
slim spoke
sorry thats my fault for just jumping to the road ... ill pick better next time
quick mist
good instinct because FAR too many people do literally text/discord and drive
safe haven
I don't plan to 'drive' until they've got self-driving taxis. :p
slim spoke
i cant heart surgeon yanked my license
quick mist
If Elon has his way, maybe by 2030
safe haven
I think I'd trust a well tested and trained AI driver over a once-tested and easily-distracted human one.
slim spoke
i get mad and their monitors freakout
drivers get hurt i end in ccu
anyways .. ill be quiet til we hit a topic
safe haven
New topic: Why won't ipv4 die?
slim spoke
cuase gov and companies
quick mist
we haven't run out of addresses yet
safe haven
I'm pretty sure we have. Some ISPs are using cg-nats now.
slim spoke
alot of $$ to change the world over
quick mist
they just keep squeezing more CIDR out of it
vagrant turtle
hrm.. just got a segfault "can't read memory at address 0x0000000000000000"
quick mist
that sounds fun
safe haven
That's a lot of zeros. Mine ended with a 3.
slim spoke
have u whispered sweet things to use server today? gotta let it know u luv it
slim spoke
was it rebooted recently?
rich void
Actually, we are out of IPv4, just a lot of people don't realize they are using IPv6 on their phone and computers for Internet traffic and IPv4 is "fallback"
safe haven
Jagex CSS put out an update that broke things.
gentle thorn
IPv4 still works because it's NATs all the way down
rich void
That is true
crimson gorge
The latest hotfix actually broke my dedicated server less than 20 or so hours in, I had just gotten to coal
vagrant turtle
and fun fact, the IANA technically ran out of IPv4 addresses about a year ago.. heheh
safe haven
Yup!
The thing is, we have transitional technologies that can convert IPv4 and IPv6 either way. So for most cases residents could be moved to IPv6 and still connect to IPv4 servers. Or ISPs are able to assign both V4 and V6 addresses if they deploy the right hardware (routers) to consumers.
And despite that, we rarely see it.
vagrant turtle
agreed. 🙂
on some of my web sites I run, I see people connecting via ipv6 more than 4
rich void
Comcast already have dual stack IP addressing for years now
safe haven
For web servers, it's not even like you need to handle ipv6 at all.
Apache or nginx as a reverse proxy, or pass through cloudflare or some other intermediary.
vagrant turtle
For web servers, it's not even like you need to handle ipv6 at all.
Apache or ng...
exactly
safe haven
All these transitional paths exist, things likely wouldn't break from the switch in 99%+ of cases.. but we're still stuck on v4 for most things.
quick mist
not to derail the ARPAcolypse talk but
vagrant turtle
but at least since I own the hardware too, so I just need to make the IPv6 addy is set up properly heeh
safe haven
not to derail the ARPAcolypse talk but
Hah.
quick mist
@crimson gorge - check the wiki for a fix to get your sever back online
safe haven
The latest hotfix actually broke my dedicated server less than 20 or so hours in...
FactoryServer.sh
#!/bin/sh
UE4_TRUE_SCRIPT_NAME=$(echo \"$0\" | xargs readlink -f)
UE4_PROJECT_ROOT=$(dirname "$UE4_TRUE_SCRIPT_NAME")
chmod +x "$UE4_PROJECT_ROOT/Engine/Binaries/Linux/UE4Server-Linux-Shipping"
"$UE4_PROJECT_ROOT/Engine/Binaries/Linux/UE4Server-Linux-Shipping" FactoryGame -multihome=0.0.0.0 "$@"
I have this on copy/paste now.
I am super happy that servers exist now. Although I forgot to turn off the setting to pause them when nobody's online.
I came back to my game and all my machines had backed up.
quick mist
I like that setting
slim spoke
server manager settings
safe haven
That's not a problem, more resources is nice. Just unexpected.
quick mist
leaving the world running feels like cheating in a way
safe haven
Yes it does.
quick mist
(but hey for those who feel otherwise I'm happy it's an option)
safe haven
But, it could be done by leaving a desktop computer running. This is far more energy-efficient though, so I'm okay with it.
slim spoke
its also a way u could run stuff for tickets then kill sinks while u play on server for better performance and fps
then switch on when u leave
vagrant turtle
Here's my two scripts. 🙂
FactoryServer.sh
#!/bin/sh
./ForceInstall.sh
UE4_TRUE_SCRIPT_NAME=$(echo \"$0\" | xargs readlink -f)
UE4_PROJECT_ROOT=$(dirname "$UE4_TRUE_SCRIPT_NAME")
chmod +x "$UE4_PROJECT_ROOT/Engine/Binaries/Linux/UE4Server-Linux-Shipping"
"$UE4_PROJECT_ROOT/Engine/Binaries/Linux/UE4Server-Linux-Shipping" FactoryGame -multihome=0.0.0.0"$@"
#!/bin/bash
cd ../
./steamcmd.sh +login anonymous +force_install_dir SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 +quit
put a space here after the last zero
otherwise the script will be broken if you use any args when invoking it
vagrant turtle
mine seems to work without any extra spaces, but noted
cobalt kettle
is the server performance more based on processor power or gpu power?
gentle thorn
100% processor, the server doesn't render anything
cobalt kettle
oh yeah kinda forgot about that.
then finally intigrated graphics and my dual xeon board thats been sitting in my closet for 2 months can get some use!
quick mist
@vagrant turtle this is why:
vagrant turtle
last line is now: "$UE4_PROJECT_ROOT/Engine/Binaries/Linux/UE4Server-Linux-Shipping" FactoryGame -multihome=0.0.0.0 "$@"
radiant sandal
anyone have an idea how to fix this: I'd like to run the server on a second computer with the steam UI but steam freaks out and when i try to run two steam applications from the same account at once?
slim spoke
dedi doesnt need an acct
cobalt kettle
and a pretty basic linux distro be probably be the best idea for the host pc?
quick mist
perfect, Blaksmith
cobalt kettle
im not scared of win10 eating 20c40t and 128gb of ram
but would rather it all be dedicated
vagrant turtle
@quick mist I understand the reasoning 😛 hehe kind of shit I do for a living... I do make mistakes here and there hehe
quick mist
🍻
safe haven
Oh right.. people still use Windows.
quick mist
sadly
vagrant turtle
Sadly, I have to use winblows for my day job
safe haven
Steam's trending 4 months at >1% Linux in their hardware survey.
quick mist
here's hoping that trends up
safe haven
It will once the Steam Deck is out.
vagrant turtle
probably because nobody cross-compiles their games for all 3 platforms.. mainly only winders and mac
safe haven
Yeah but Wine/Lutris/Proton takes care of that.
quick mist
I'm super glad that more engines now are making building for Linux easier
but Proton is a huge help too
vagrant turtle
yeah, I've used Wine and PlayOnLinux (which uses wine) with much success
but had more success when I had control of which one it was, so wine directly, not POL
quick mist
Ideally we can just play natively on Linux more
vagrant turtle
and games like LotRO , same hardware,
Windows: FPS 38 - 45
Linux: FPS 85 - 105
quick mist
I burned a lot of time playing Enemy Territory in native Linux back when my daily driver was a Gentoo box (:
spice verge
Why do the server and client versions not update at the same time?
safe haven
That's similar to 7days.
safe haven
Why do the server and client versions not update at the same time?
Do they not? My client and server have both updated to the same version.
vagrant turtle
Why do the server and client versions not update at the same time?
they were updated at the same time for me... force an update?
or force reinstall
spice verge
Hmm maybe Ill do that then
I cant seem to get them to stay in lockstep for some reason
quick mist
Why do the server and client versions not update at the same time?
the core of the problem is content delivery networks. their caches are not always kept in perfect sync
spice verge
Ah that makes sense
slim spoke
launcher might need to restart to update client or server needs to restart to run update stuff if it has it setup
but the patch is applied to dedi and exp at the sametime
quick mist
one could theoretically only use the Steam desktop client for the store and only install games through SteamCMD but you'd still be only getting data as new as the CDN cares to present to you
vagrant turtle
I just need 2 more sink tickets ... so I can get some super computers HAHAHAH ... don't feel like building that unit yet...
slim spoke
dope i got a question ... just want to get it right in my head so ill ask ya. if u rerun the install for server is it wiping out port setups and such in configs? or those are safe
just wonder if using certain cmd stamps over any important stuff
vagrant turtle
dope i got a question ... just want to get it right in my head so ill ask ya. i...
tbh, I will look the next time there is an actual update. I have a feeling that if there is one, it may over-write the FactoryServer.sh file . 🙂
slim spoke
kool thanx .. i just wonder cause i dont wanna say just run install and it slaps their stuff silly
vagrant turtle
I'm using default, so not seeing any changes until the required added -multihome entry
slim spoke
ya dope or one of the peeps will know.. not important enough to ping anyone for though
vagrant turtle
and knowing my luck, they will add that to the default for next update HAHAH
slim spoke
lol ya
alpine dawn
tbh, I will look the next time there is an actual update. I have a feeling that...
if you have your server setup like the systemd example where it checks for updates and verifies files it already does that
I ran into that issue
vagrant turtle
if you have your server setup like the systemd example where it checks for updat...
nah, I don't have it as a service.. manually running in a screen for now.
alpine dawn
tried putting -multihome in that shell script and it kept getting overwritten when I started the server
quick mist
dope i got a question ... just want to get it right in my head so ill ask ya. i...
If you edit FactoryServer.sh that will probably get nuked by future updates
alpine dawn
thats what I am saying it gets nuked on verify
quick mist
If you edit `FactoryServer.sh` that will probably get nuked by future updates
but if you do the port setting elsewhere it'll probably stick
slim spoke
k thanx dope 🙂
vagrant turtle
but, since it is not like SVN or GIT where it insists you save / stash your changes before it will download.. I think steam will keep it how you had it when there is an update on files OTHER than what you changed.
quick mist
that's why I put the multihome switch into my systemd config:
vagrant turtle
cool 🙂
alpine dawn
so its got systemd calling a shell script calling another shellscript
haha
not very efficient
quick mist
yeah I took out that abstraction, I have SystemD just calling what needs to happen directly
vagrant turtle
either way, will still be sticking with the setup I have until the nextupdate, then I can give @slim spoke a proper answer on if it changes or not. 🙂
quick mist
yay for more information!
alpine dawn
I am kinda surprised the server is even able to run on my shitbox fileserver
slim spoke
lol greg
quick mist
if it works it works
slim spoke
long as it does work
quick mist
one of my home servers is still running a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit physical architecture because I am a lazy lazy bastard
alpine dawn
its got 8 gigs of ram and still somehow has 900meg free
vagrant turtle
more like Until it doesn't work
alpine dawn
more like `Until it doesn't work`
this
slim spoke
my old laptops do bitch work on files and such and put them back on storage to keep this one and desktop for me to play on
vagrant turtle
that's cutting it close with 900 megs HAHH
quick mist
I mean that's still 12% unutilized.. I have seen worse in production environments
alpine dawn
well free, as in not cache
vagrant turtle
damn .. need one more sink ticket .. but only going to take 1.975 mil points HAHAHAHA
alpine dawn
only using 500meg of swap we are fine
vagrant turtle
heh
alpine dawn
900meg is buffers and cache so thats basically free
vagrant turtle
I have always hated having to dip into swap ... On some of my servers, I have a Vswap, which actually uses allocated ram instead of the drive (SSD / HDD)
quick mist
yep
vagrant turtle
host machine is a server with 48Gb ram, with like 10 VM's on it .. so the vswap is for the VM's
vagrant turtle
if it is hardware, you can't control that
alpine dawn
my storage array is the only thing thats not a flash drive
quick mist
..fair, I guess
vagrant turtle
software, I don't think it will even let you
alpine dawn
its a hardware raid
vagrant turtle
that would explain it 🙂
slim spoke
i guess i should setup a dedi just to do it once at least lol
gentle thorn
Huh, something with the new update fixed my Invalid Authentication Token errors
slim spoke
nice
alpine dawn
lol
that can go either way
sometimes unexpected things get fixed
and sometimes regressions get introduced
gentle thorn
I'm aware, I've been working in this industry for 15 years. I'm just surprised because nothing in the patch notes would have suggested that it would have been fixed.
slim spoke
anyone got a link to a docker or something for windows they could dm ?
alpine dawn
might have been tied to something else they fixed and they didnt realize it I guess
either way
gentle thorn
My docker images are hosted on a private repository 🤷♂️
alpine dawn
anyone got a link to a docker or something for windows they could dm ?
you got windows 10 pro you can just use hyperv
slim spoke
im so lost lol i dont know if im lookin for a repo site or what lol .. just a point in direction to start and ill learn from there
quick mist
I keep forgetting HyperV exists
vagrant turtle
I prefer my own hardware... kthkxbi
alpine dawn
lol
quick mist
I'm so used to just rolling KVM or Virtualbox
alpine dawn
lol yeah I use virtualbox a lot
gentle thorn
I would recommend against Hyper-V if you're using Windows. Just do Docker for Windows with WSL2
slim spoke
ya win10 but im just whipping up one that can be used for testing and test connecting .. then will play with things to get fancy
alpine dawn
ah
quick mist
just install WSL, install steamcmd there, and fire up the server
vagrant turtle
I have 2 hardware servers at DC's, and 3 hardware servers here at my house, spread out LOL.. wife is like "make sure I don't trip over the wires" hahaha
quick mist
done and done
alpine dawn
I have 2 hardware servers at DC's, and 3 hardware servers here at my house, spre...
I solved that with a 42U rack in the garage
XD
I have a problem
quick mist
if I had a garage and I had a rack in the garage all my homelab would melt in the Phoenix heat
alpine dawn
lmao
slim spoke
okie dokie ill just figure it out .. l8r
vagrant turtle
I solved that with a 42U rack in the garage
hahh nice.. but, what's the speeds? at the DC, one I'm getting 10GB and the other I'm still only getting 1GB
and at home, shitty 100MB
alpine dawn
hahh nice.. but, what's the speeds? at the DC, one I'm getting 10GB and the othe...
symmetric gigabit
quick mist
the nice thing about a 42U on the premesis is the amazing bandwidth you can get by carrying a tote of drives from one room into another
alpine dawn
lmao @quick mist spitting facts
quick mist
I think Randall Munrue did the math and found the highest throughput data transfer was FedExing shoeboxen full of SD cards
vagrant turtle
heh
quick mist
win some lose some
vagrant turtle
ewww, (reading up) .. Phoenix .. no thanks .. been there, good place to visit for a quick stop, but .... nah, east coast here. Western NC 🙂
in the moutains!
quick mist
I don't miss snow
vagrant turtle
grew up in So Cali though, so yeah.. heh
vagrant turtle
yeah, that's why I moved east.. Love the seasons
quick mist
especially when the other 15 days are a mix of "partly cloudy", "haboob" and one or two days of "rai-- hah just kidding, mostly cloudy"
vagrant turtle
lol.. sounds like you are from India or that area?
quick mist
Originally from Vermont actually
quick mist
Never been to that part of the globe. Maybe one day.
vagrant turtle
ahh heh I guess some haboob's can come across the land in AZ too, so yeah.. Bad on me thinking that because of the word you were on the other side of the world HAHHH 😛 hangs head in shame
quick mist
I don't know why the meterologists out here decided to use the Arabic word for 'sandstorm' rather than just say 'sandstorm' but here we are.
vagrant turtle
sand storms can happen just about anywhere
slim spoke
lol
quick mist
maybe they just collectively wanted an excuse to say 'boob' on live TV
vagrant turtle
hehehe
slim spoke
are u watching detroit area weather?
quick mist
not as a general rule
slim spoke
hehe
quick mist
looks nice today though
alpine dawn
looks nice today though
looks like my damn power graphs in game
quick mist
hahah
vagrant turtle
rofl
quick mist
compare:
at least the highs are down to 32 degrees
nice to be below homeostasis outdoors for a couple days
alpine dawn
maybe not a server specific issue but can you still get casted screws from hard drives after you complete tier4?
we have been unlocking hard drive after hard drive trying to get that and none of them have had it
slate ice
Anyone try running multiple dedicated server instances dockerized yet? I assume this would be a problem because of beacon ports? Just started playing around with the dedicated server client today.
slim spoke
wiki page tells u what u need for it
alpine dawn
lmao so just as I posted that our last drive got done scanning and we got it
fuuuuuu
slim spoke
sweet
quick mist
maybe not a server specific issue but can you still get casted screws from hard ...
you can but yeah, as you get more and more tiers there are more and more things in the pool
slim spoke
keep it empty then new are choice
alpine dawn
Anyone try running multiple dedicated server instances dockerized yet? I assume ...
multiple IPs could satisfy that issue
quick mist
I learned quick to go drive hunting as soon as I get Research until I get Casted Screws
slim spoke
2 is what u want in pool or less
alpine dawn
Anyone try running multiple dedicated server instances dockerized yet? I assume ...
to be clear I have not tried this but I suspect you can work around the issue given enough IP addresses if you cant change some of the ports
slim spoke
yes u can if u fix those things mentioned
quick mist
you don't even need to Docker it if you set up virtual NICs and use -multihome to pick your interface per instance
alpine dawn
you don't even need to Docker it if you set up virtual NICs and use `-multihome`...
this
slate ice
@alpine dawn @quick mist Thanks for your suggestions, I'll play around with it a bit tomorrow. I notice in the wiki they say that it's not yet changeable, assuming it will be manually selectable in the future, will make things easier.
quick mist
it's been mentioned that they may work on getting that port overrideable
no promises of course, you know the score I'm sure (:
another option is having Docker use Bridged networking, and each container would then have its own IP on your LAN rather than using the host's
alpine dawn
with ipv6 support multiple IPs become viable even on most home connections
quick mist
you don't need IPv6 for effectively infinite IPs for home use
slim spoke
u can do the 3 ports and multihome if needed so just have to fix each copy of server and setup the range of port forwards
alpine dawn
you don't need IPv6 for effectively infinite IPs for home use
yeah I mean publicly routed
quick mist
even with the 192.168.0.0/16 range you have 256**2 addresses (minus a few)
slate ice
I'm an ipv4 kinda guy lol, multihome works but I'd imagine that'd become very expensive very quick.
alpine dawn
thats why I said ipv6
quick mist
if you need more just rock 10.0.0.0/8 and you have 256**3 (minus a few)
slim spoke
it lets u bind to specific ip/adapter
alpine dawn
you get a shitload of addressed usually from most ISPs
slim spoke
not all the devices
quick mist
I wonder if there's a posting on the QA site about SRV record support
probably too soon for that (:
alpine dawn
I wonder if there's a posting on the QA site about SRV record support
waiting for the old skool web interface to control the server like on UT2004
XD
slate ice
Nah I work for a GSP so they have to be shared public IP's. Just tinkering around with it now, haven't tried dockerizing it yet. I'm sure there's a way we can bridge containers together to have multiple instances running on the same machine. RN I'm just getting a feel for how much resources are needed on a plain steamCMD install for a full playthrough. Just gotta say, so far the setup for this dedicated server client is the easiest and quickest I've seen. Coffee Stain did a really good job.
alpine dawn
yeah its pretty good
very similar to my experience with ARC
same kinda deal
steamCMD unreal dedi
slate ice
I just really like how everything is built into the game client, makes it super convenient.
quick mist
we've come a long way from Quake and hlds
alpine dawn
yeah not a whole lot of extra utils needed to manage it
I suppose the only gripe would be if you were some kinda hosting company and didnt have the game but wanted to be able to quickly deploy dedicated servers for people it might be kinda awkward
dunno
I am sure there is a use case for external control
not through a game
bit of a reach but meh
slate ice
Ye, we're waiting a bit to release for shared hosting, just for much of the kinks to be ironed out. Docker helps when it comes to quickly deploying multiple servers. I just thought of the beacon port being an issue like 20 mins ago, only have one test instance up atm.
alpine dawn
ah, to be completely honest I havent played much with docker
usually just fire up VMs if I want segmentation
alpine dawn
haha
slim spoke
ohhh
alpine dawn
seems that way
quick mist
so I just use VMs. which I'm sure makes me seem like a cranky old man ranting about kids these days and their music
quick mist
node isn't great.
alpine dawn
its literally javascript trying to do more than it should
slate ice
I think node is fun to code in, I'm not a developer though so I don't work with it every day.
prime gorge
Why in heavens name has editing on the Dedicated Server page been deactivated? Somehow a couple of people are Gatekeeping the whole article :/
https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers
quick mist
I was not aware that editing was disabled.
was there something you thought should be added or changed?
slim spoke
everyone tried to make it their wiki lol .. instead of getting with the community
alpine dawn
haha
slim spoke
multiple people wanting to arrange the order and stuff
quick mist
I can still edit it.. are you trying to edit anonymously @prime gorge ? you might just need to make an account and log in
prime gorge
I was not aware that editing was disabled.
Happened during the weekend - was able to edit the page last week though
prime gorge
I can still edit it.. are you trying to edit anonymously <@!134331491428597761> ...
meh ...
Thanks anyway for letting me know 🙂
alpine dawn
my joke is now lost forever cuz my gif got stuffed
slim spoke
welcome to dedi room isnt it satisfactory? hehe
alpine dawn
lmao everyone and their mother was trying to advertise their servers?
quick mist
there was some dispute about some paid server manager programs with effervescent prose finding their ways into the article
alpine dawn
oh
slim spoke
yup yup .. been little ruff recently
slim spoke
not to advertise ur paid hosting on
alpine dawn
well not anymore
slim spoke
it puts the wiki and devs in a spot
alpine dawn
but at the beginning thats what they were thinkin
slim spoke
that could be linked to anything
alpine dawn
slaps wiki look how much free advertising you can fit in this bad boy
slate ice
Ppl out here farming SEO with their do-follow links, scam as old as google itself
slim spoke
old days people have done things like steal info with scripts .. so they dont want people just being able to drop stuff to the public thru it
if u go and download something then thats ur thing
alpine dawn
haha
slim spoke
it makes sense when u have kids coming to reference it
alpine dawn
brb firing up an unpatched windows 95 VM to click on all the links and see how many viruses I get
quick mist
best not beat it into the ground though. Suffice to say that AFAIK there's no 'gatekeeping' beyond having to put your name on your edits for the next fortnight (:
slate ice
How many times can we install bonzi buddy on one windows 95 vm
slim spoke
lol
quick mist
How many times can we install bonzi buddy on one windows 95 vm
once per toolbar
slim spoke
greg autoclicker hahaha
quick mist
something something CometCursor
slate ice
That's excessive, but that's how it was back in the day
slate ice
I'll never forget my mom trying to get me to fix her computer as a kid, open internet explorer, half the page is nothing but favorites bars. Why are we ok with this, I'm glad this trend ended.
"how will I know the weather"
alpine dawn
haha
prime gorge
there was some dispute about some paid server manager programs with effervescent...
Already guessed something like this happened. All automated solutions were outsourced to another page without even linking to that page though ...
quick mist
That was actually me -- and I did link to that page after I moved them out
alpine dawn
might as well give up on the gifs they dont work
quick mist
alpine dawn
I know I was as shocked as you and pikachu
prime gorge
No link to be found until now. Not believing in a good change that it is. But you do you man. Just sad that it got harded for people to find LGSM and having an easy time.
prime gorge
might as well give up on the gifs they dont work
In my world you click on them, making them still usefull.
quick mist
I agree that it was unfortunate that the Automated Solutions page was ultimately deleted -- that was not my choice. But that was a decision made by the administrator/owner of the wiki after an edit war with the someone else and author of the paid-service section who it turned out was also the benefactor of its sales
prime gorge
that the Automated Solutions page was ultimately deleted
Wait, what??!
Any chance to get LGSM back into the article as an unpaid, free and open source solution?
upper crag
Is anyone having issues with version mismatch using steamcmd server + epic games? I've tried using the launch line on the wiki page to update the server but keep getting error when trying to connect from the game:
slate ice
Ye, update your server client
quick mist
It's not outside the realm of possiblity but for now the decree was to not "promote" third-party software other than SteamCMD and (because it wasn't on that page and they probably didn't notice it was mentioned elsewhere) Docker
slim spoke
lol someone get ur multihome paste ready for when he updates
quick mist
Is anyone having issues with version mismatch using steamcmd server + epic games...
looks like the server is out of date
slim spoke
😛
alpine dawn
copy pasta
upper crag
Yeah that's what I'm assuming but I'm not sure how I can update it other than the command line on the wiki page
(which just seems to reinstall the same version every time)
prime gorge
(which just seems to reinstall the same version every time)
Welcome to server updates maintained by SteamCMD :>
alpine dawn
Yeah that's what I'm assuming but I'm not sure how I can update it other than th...
/home/steam/steam/steamcmd.sh +login anonymous +force_install_dir $InstallationDir +app_update 1690800 validate +quit
thats my update line
quick mist
this is the version I am getting from SteamCMD:
make sure you have validate
upper crag
Let me check what I got (using Windows)
slate ice
^that, just use the validate command in steamCMD and it will update to the latest
upper crag
steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir C:\steamcmd\steamapps\common\SatisfactoryDedicatedServer\SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 validate +quit
prime gorge
It's not outside the realm of possiblity but for now the decree was to not "prom...
Hmm ... maybe you want to bring into the discussion that there are either a script for Linux and Windows. Seems to be a fork by some sort, but not familiar with that PowerShell script.
upper crag
Literally just copied from wiki with updated directory
alpine dawn
Let me check what I got (using Windows)
this is unfamiliar territory for me
dunno anyone here running windows for server
lean zenith
Is anyone having issues with version mismatch using steamcmd server + epic games...
I don't know if you solved your problem, but I had to delete the directory and rerun the command to make it update to the newest version.
upper crag
I'll try that, got nothing to lose :p
quick mist
^ if you do that your savefile is safe
prime gorge
`/home/steam/steam/steamcmd.sh +login anonymous +force_install_dir $Installation...
It's just ./sfserver update for me :b
quick mist
it's in another directory
lean zenith
At least on Linux, the save file is in another directory.
Its in .config
I didn't lose my save when I did it.
upper crag
If I just change the directory that should do the trick yeah?
quick mist
it ought, yes
lean zenith
Yeah, just try installing to a new directory.
upper crag
It's running now hold music
quick mist
hmm, is that Canon in D or Girl from Ipanema?
quick mist
v.90 or K56?
alpine dawn
tbh I never had a 56k modem
quick mist
I used to be able to tell the speed and protocol by the sounds of the handshake
alpine dawn
ours was shitty and slow 19.2k
quick mist
"aw crap this is only going to be 48k, redial"
alpine dawn
rocked 19.2k right up till my parents got cable
alpine dawn
hah
quick mist
0.0012Mbit/sec
alpine dawn
yeah I am not that old
upper crag
I remember 14.4k modem on our Amiga 500
quick mist
getting a 14.4 modem was great. "wow only half an hour to download a floppy disk image rather than 90 minutes!"
alpine dawn
lol
quick mist
then BBSs started using ZMODEM rather than XMODEM and you could -- get this -- resume partial downloads
:swoon:
alpine dawn
I hopped online a bit after that
1995 my parents bought a brand new PC running the latest windows operating system with 500hours free AOL
compaq presario
upper crag
Encarta 95 changed the world
quick mist
I remember when AOL started advertising "1,000 Hours free*"
*: in the first month
...there are not that many hours in a month
alpine dawn
you need to learn to be a time traveler to use them
slim spoke
aol was like a drug dealer handing out samples
quick mist
AOL's one redeeming quality is that for a long time I never had to buy a floppy disk
then they started using CDs and they lost even that
slim spoke
yup they decorated my rooms and places
alpine dawn
then they started using CDs and they lost even that
great for BB target practice though
quick mist
heh
edgy crag
Hrm, is there a file that the password is saved to?
edgy crag
bleh. In the haste to get everything setup I may have forgotten exactly what I put. Rookie mistake
quick mist
the good news is I think if you nuke the install you can set a new server back up and import the save if you remember the Session Name the save used
upper crag
I don't know if you solved your problem, but I had to delete the directory and r...
This worked
Also the map and everything is still good
slim spoke
ya just get it working and save . then put ur sve in folder and load session
quick mist
Also the map and everything is still good
awesome
upper crag
So yeah - Windows, reinstall to new directory and you're good to go, I assume deleting old and reinstalling same works too
quick mist
I reckon so, yeah
upper crag
Thanks btw, appreciate it
quick mist
glad to help!
snow belfry
so how many guys you already helped with multihome ? 😄
upper crag
Was driving me nuts I must have tried updating (downloading the whole game again) about 8 times now
snow belfry
I haven't been counting
i have a bone to pick with you ! 😄 because of your wiki edit i had to search 1 minute for the systemctl restart command i forgot ! 😄
quick mist
my apologies.
snow belfry
yeah
quick mist
but the service section was getting pretty long
slim spoke
what i heard is just a little work to find the answer .. no biggie
snow belfry
yeah no its totally fine, what we should maybe put tho is a link to the page
upper crag
Might be worth updating the common errors section for Windows users that are having server update issues
Seeing that's literally our only resource atm lol
alpine dawn
did you actually get it to update or did you have to nuke it
quick mist
like this link?
upper crag
I had to reinstall to a fresh directory
alpine dawn
ouch
snow belfry
like this link?
where the hell is that ? 😄
quick mist
snow belfry
okay so i am just blind 😄 sorry 😉
snow belfry
i mean its not that i did not knew how to do it, i just always forget linux commands, if you not using it that often you jsut forget
i do like the most wiki changes tho 🙂 good work
quick mist
yeah I'm still getting used to using systemctl rather than scripts in /etc/init.d/
thanks 😄
snow belfry
yeah I'm still getting used to using `systemctl` rather than scripts in `/etc/in...
yeah i think i used init.d when i did counterstrike servers back in the day xD
i am not sure tho^^ was so long ago
alpine dawn
yeah I'm still getting used to using `systemctl` rather than scripts in `/etc/in...
It's been rough
alpine dawn
i am not sure tho^^ was so long ago
If it was that long ago then yes most likely
Init.d has been around forever
Even systemd has backwards compatibility with it
Because it's been so widely used
quick mist
I think I more or less ignored systemd entirely and leaned on its init.d compatibility layer until the init.d directory contents started disappearing on me as I upgraded
slim spoke
i cant wait for kick and such cmds hehe
slim spoke
make a bridge of death gatekeeper
snow belfry
so there are 3 things i would love on dedicated servers:
- Custom Respawn locations (Beds or something)
- Permission System (Dismantle permission, research permission etc.)
- Lockable Storage
slim spoke
lol friend gets question of day wrong it boots them
alpine dawn
Man, y'all playing with some sketchy people
Haha
Lockable storage
Hey don't touch my shit should be enough
snow belfry
well i am thinking more of public server
alpine dawn
And now you can put that on a sign
snow belfry
i also would like multiple hubs
at the moment everybody is thinking about teamplay
but i rather have multiple teams
alpine dawn
Ah well yeah public servers are going to be the wild west without some kinda moderation
slim spoke
maybe in modes they will be nice
snow belfry
if it is coming it will be a long way off i know that
especially since the systems would need a bit of rewriting
quick mist
I am nearly certain that there are no plans to introduce any sort of intentional PVP into the game, so I would be very surprised for there to be "teams"
snow belfry
yeah pvp =! playing on different areas tho
the problem when building in a different area and have your own production, there is only 1 hub.. so you have to go back there sooner or later
quick mist
true, but the resources on the map are finite the terrain is absolutely not balanced for resource-competition
alpine dawn
Maybe they can make another game where you are the ones in space receiving all the shit coming off the planet and handing out various unlocks for goods delivered LMAO 🤣
quick mist
Maybe they can make another game where you are the ones in space receiving all t...
Icarus: First Cohort might like a word
slim spoke
but have separate hub would be nice
snow belfry
but have separate hub would be nice
yeah that will be lots of work tho, because it would mean splitting the research
slim spoke
ya i know its a big hope
snow belfry
i mean maybe in the beginning they could be linked and it would only mean seperate spawn
quick mist
it's pretty clear that multiplayer is intended to be cooperative rather than competitive
slim spoke
im happy with just getting to 1.0 so can play from start to finish thru building
snow belfry
it's pretty clear that multiplayer is intended to be cooperative rather than com...
even so, since end game resources are far enough away, you usually have an outpost for fuel or for uranium anyway, so having a spawn point / hub there would be frikkin life saver 😄
quick mist
I just want sloops and SAM and Mercers to have a Point. (:
snow belfry
I just want sloops and SAM and Mercers to have a Point. (:
mercers have a point !
you have to harvest them !
slim spoke
we are moving that way nicely so im patient
snow belfry
HARVEST !!!!
slim spoke
yup
snow belfry
cya later guys, got to get ready 🙂
slim spoke
l8r pleasure
quick mist
happy readygetting!
lean zenith
This worked
Sick.
edgy crag
Is it possible to save outside the server? I may need to make a new one because of password issues, but neither me or my buddy in game can save
Are we just SOL at this point?
quick mist
are you able to connect as a client to the server? or your friend?
snow belfry
Is it possible to save outside the server? I may need to make a new one because ...
you lost root password ???
quick mist
okay. If you're in the game, anytime anyone leaves the server it saves
edgy crag
Oh, awesome
quick mist
so have everyone leave, and then shut the server down gracefully (exit inthe server manager console)
edgy crag
you lost root password ???
Rookie mistake. I was in such a rush to get the server working I didnt do my due diligence
quick mist
and then you can set up a new server with a password you can remember (:
edgy crag
Thanks much
snow belfry
if you have user password issues, you can easily change them with root, if you lost root password you really should set it up again, i mean at some point you will have to change stuff
quick mist
we're talking SF server password, not system user password, Pleasure (:
snow belfry
ah okay 😄
slim spoke
lol
edgy crag
so have everyone leave, and then shut the server down gracefully (`exit` inthe s...
So this is going to be sad, I cant access that console because I dont have the password
I might just have to force kill the app
snow belfry
should not be a problem autosave is regularly and if someone leaves it saves
so just kill it 😄
quick mist
linux server?
snow belfry
Windows
why people so crazy and using windows servers
ofc users choice.. but come on ! 😄
slim spoke
move ur saves and configs and toss the server folder and reinstall it
quick mist
basically that, yeah
snow belfry
cant server password be changed via config ?
slim spoke
i thought it was in an ini
snow belfry
or is it encrypted ? I honestly did not do a server pw because its useless anyway because there is no server browser
quick mist
it's encrypted
snow belfry
yeah well then shit out of luck 😄 @edgy crag i would honestly go without a password for server, only admin password
edgy crag
Ill be better this time around
snow belfry
😄
slim spoke
just tell us and we will give it to u if u need it lol
snow belfry
allright, now i am off.. going outside in the cold ! 🥶 not that bad but still^^ i hate the cold
slate ice
Found a bug, idk if this is a dedi bug or an experimental patch bug, but I'm placing conveyors, they do not appear, but I can still hop on them and slide around. I reboot the server, they reappear. Feels like a problem between the client and server.
quick mist
I'm pretty sure I've heard folks talking about that before, invisible belts.
slate ice
yeah, and they seem to work, they're just invisible
quick mist
also not sure if it's a DS issue or not but I'm pretty sure there are entries on the QA site for them
woven pendant
how can i update my server files after the most recent patch?
quick mist
use the same SteamCMD command you used to install, to update
woven pendant
thank you
edgy crag
Thanks for the support. Starting a new server fixed everything
quick mist
glad to hear it!
vague grail
Hmm anyone else getting signal 11 when trying to update from steamCMD?
quick mist
from SteamCMD when uptating or when launching the server after the update?
vague grail
updating
quick mist
I have not heard of SteamCMD throwing Sig11 during an update before, no.
that's new.
is the server running when you're trying to update it?
vague grail
no. I've got it on a docker container and restarting shuts the whole thing down, and on restart runs the update command before starting the server.
quick mist
that sounds solid. Hmm.
vague grail
lemme grab the latest logs
ah yep. Post-Update Note [2021-11-03]
A new Dedicated Server update was release today, 2021-11-03, which adds IPv6 support. However this update will cause a Linux server to reliably crash on startup. A workaround for this is to force the server to only bind to an IPv4 address with the -multihome switch. You can find details on what this switch does and its syntax in Command Line Options.
quick mist
ah, that's why I was asking if it was the server itself or steamcmd throwing the error
if it is the server crash that note is about, then indeed adding the -multihome switch to the server startup command line should get you back up and running
vague grail
The logs are long (and repeating, and getting them to show up properly from a running container is a pain, but it seems its failing at binding an address
quick mist
yep, that's the crash that update is talking about
edgy crag
So far the only issue ive had is conveyors being invisible and not deleting properlly. But that could just be an EA5 issue
woven pendant
after just patching my dedicated server to match game version now when I try to look at server manager in main menu it says I need to be authenticated even though I am connecting locally
waxen prawn
I had to remove and re-add my Server in the Server Manager but now i can't authenticate as Admin to change some Config changes.
Is there a way to reset that password? Or make those changes in the ini file?
quick mist
the password is not stored in plaintext; it's encrypted.
woven pendant
I had to remove and re-add my Server in the Server Manager but now i can't authe...
tried this and still says I need to authenticate with a password...
quick mist
you should have been told to choose an Admin password when you first set up the server, that's the password it's asking for.
waxen prawn
i used that but it doesn't authenticate me. tbh nothing happens if i enter the password
quick mist
huh.
woven pendant
I entered mine just now and it worked make sure you're entering it exactly
waxen prawn
pretty sure it's a quite simple password
well i guess i'll just create a new server, make the changes i want and copy the ini to my existing server
daring dome
is there crossplay with servers (epic - steam)
quick mist
yes
woven pendant
yes
quick mist
(but servers don't talk to servers. but yes, epic game-owners can play on Steam servers)
(and once Epic servers exist, Steam players can play on them)
ember thunder
does a dedi server need a good CPU? or is ram the most important part?
quick mist
if, uh, a server is offline it can't be connected to, no
quick mist
does a dedi server need a good CPU? or is ram the most important part?
the requirements are outlined on the Wiki; check the pins
ember thunder
yeah it mentions a recent cpu, but what constitutes as "recent"?
quick mist
I believe it needs to support SSE4..a?
ember thunder
alright, ty
quick mist
certainly
stray bone
Could not bind address '0.0.0.0:15777'. Server cannot continue initialization. ?
vale bobcat
how to use -multihome in a docker container?
unreal steppe
That I can't help with sorry!
woven pendant
after updating server today most if not all my conveyor belts are rendering very weirdly. Like conveyor lifts have items float down many stories above where they are and some items are permenantly in place on certain belts
stray bone
@unreal steppe that did it 🙂
slim spoke
factorygame.sh or whatever ... add the -multihome=192.168.#.#
paper estuary
trainstation are still bugged, sometimes not all plattforms get power
wraith pebble
factorygame.sh or whatever ... add the -multihome=192.168.#.#
better to be general an accept any? aka 0.0.0.0
slim spoke
u can do what u like
stray bone
woah, did they finally fix the sign disappearing bug?
frosty gale
What, why is my server suddenly offline after last night's patch?
rough turret
What, why is my server suddenly offline after last night's patch?
auto-update?
frosty gale
Yeah
Tried starting it manually
[2021.11.04-08.44.13:811][ 0]LogExit: Executing StaticShutdownAfterError
Engine crash handling finished; re-raising signal 11 for the default handler. Good bye.
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
All right so scrolling a bit up it says:
Could not bind address '0.0.0.0:15777'. Server cannot continue initialization.
Signal 11 caught.
Wth CSS
Ok, so other people have had the same thing this morning apparently. I'll try the -multihome thing, but still, wth.
I get this is not supposed to be production ready or even close to that, but could you maybe not kill my server with the updates pls :)
rough turret
Tried starting it manually
[2021.11.04-08.44.13:811][ 0]LogExit: Executing Sta...
Lol that goodbye.
slim spoke
welcome to exp
rough turret
The Segfault is something in the code.
But that cannot bind means the port is in use.
frosty gale
Nothing else has been using it except the server :)
rough turret
Perhaps the old process still runs in the background?
rough turret
What does the multihome parameter mean?
vale bobcat
for Docker Containers: # Multihome binding (bind to specific IP address)
NOTE: Can be changed if hosting multiple instances on the same server
SATISFACTORY_MULTIHOME="0.0.0.0"
slim spoke
wiki page has the info on dedi switches
rough turret
@frosty gale asked a programming buddy, segfaults are often in the code.
frosty gale
I'll try the multihome, but why is it required now and wasn't yesterday? :)
rough turret
So its probably a bug
plush iris
They added ipv6 support in yesterdays update
frosty gale
Ah
rough turret
Perhaps creating a bug report with the core helps.
plush iris
And apparently it requires the multihome now when using ipv4
vale bobcat
with multihome you can run more instances on one server
slim spoke
im sure they know all about it by now lol
plush iris
with multihome you can run more instances on one server
Oof nice, so i can play 1 modded and 1 vanilla when mods are supported in update 5 👀
vale bobcat
Oof nice, so i can play 1 modded and 1 vanilla when mods are supported in update...
if you have that much time, yes 🙂
rough turret
I am wondering, what is the benefit of dedicated server opposed to a Multiplayer if you just play with 2 peopel?
marsh dawn
Dedi server can be up 24/7 easier.
full vector
It also allows the second person to play without the host being around
marsh dawn
And the host does not need to be online as well. Has buntch of upsides.
slim spoke
and neither is hosting the workload of the server if u dont put on local
full vector
If you have been perfectly happy with your multiplayer setup, no need to worry though
slim spoke
so game runs better
cloud lagoon
does the world timer stop if no one is online?
full vector
that can be configured
frosty gale
So it should be factorygame.sh -multihome=0.0.0.0 or whatever the server ip is?
spiral root
if your using linuxGSM you can just edit ~/lgsm/config-lgsm/sfserver/sfserver.cfg adding .. ## Server Parameters startparameters="FactoryGame -ServerQueryPort=${queryport} -BeaconPort=${beaconport} -multihome=0.0.0.0 -Port=${port} -log -unattended"
frosty gale
I'm just running the server on my ubuntu, nothing fancy.
So it should be in the start_server.sh after it calls factorygame.sh?
spiral root
linuxGSM is a gameserver management script that runs on all Linux OS, makes installing, managing and updating the gameserver nothing fancy.
frosty gale
Ok.
But I'm still not running it right now. Might look into it in the future.
Ok, well it works.
Weird stutter ingame now
plush iris
if you have that much time, yes 🙂
Sleep is for the weak 😅😂
clear frigate
Definitely are still broken
spiral root
Definitely are still broken
Seems Broken
paper estuary
yes only for put down and go away before detonate
upbeat adder
yh I get kinda the same on mine I can throw them if I jump but they dont destroy anything for me
clear frigate
They indeed have no effects right now other than being invisible and hurting creatures and players nearby
they do not affect the environment or "destructibles"
Unfortunate, i wanted to clear some annoying foliage nearby
austere mural
My server is constantly crashing now. Did anything change in the launch?
austere mural
Thanks a lot
clear frigate
If that doesn't work, look up your server's external IP and use that instead of 0.0.0.0
spiral root
My server is constantly crashing now. Did anything change in the launch?
if your using linuxGSM you can just edit ~/lgsm/config-lgsm/sfserver/sfserver.cfg adding .. ## Server Parameters startparameters="FactoryGame -ServerQueryPort=${queryport} -BeaconPort=${beaconport} -multihome=0.0.0.0 -Port=${port} -log -unattended"
minor narwhal
was the latest update supposed to delete the save on the dedicated server?
solar remnant
Hi there...
udp6 0 0 :::15777 :::* 26105/UE4Server-Lin
udp6 0 0 :::3333 :::* 26105/UE4Server-Lin
udp6 0 0 :::5555 :::* 26105/UE4Server-Lin
Add -multihome=:: and it will work.
spiral root
was the latest update supposed to delete the save on the dedicated server?
No and I haven't experienced it deleting the save
minor narwhal
trying to find the save folder, and it doesn't seem to exist
solar remnant
Which OS?
minor narwhal
running on unraid in a docker
solar remnant
Did you volume mount the .config folder?
spiral root
Default save location is ~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saves/server/
minor narwhal
Default save location is ``~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saves/server/``
there we go, was looking in the wrong folder
spiral root
I was doing the same thing hence me knowing off by heart lol
brisk parrot
for some reason i cannot run the dedicated server software it keeps crashing
at launch that ids
brisk parrot
i did
spiral root
Latest update added -multihome option which is currently required
spiral root
if your using linuxGSM you can just edit ~/lgsm/config-lgsm/sfserver/sfserver.cfg adding .. ## Server Parameters startparameters="FactoryGame -ServerQueryPort=${queryport} -BeaconPort=${beaconport} -multihome=0.0.0.0 -Port=${port} -log -unattended"
solar remnant
Or -multihome=:: which will bind to IPv6 and IPv4, which 0.0.0.0 will not.
spiral root
If your running naked you can just
FactoryServer.sh -multihome=::
brisk parrot
im running gui and it hasnt even generated config files yet
solar remnant
im running gui and it hasnt even generated config files yet
You're launching it from Steam?
pliant panther
Are other people get this warning: Warning: Steam Dedicated Server API failed to initialize.
?
solar remnant
Are other people get this warning: Warning: Steam Dedicated Server API failed to...
Yes, it's fine.