dedicated-servers

[jovial warren]

there I cleaned up the IPv6 rules

[quick mist]

just for absolute grins, and knowing it should not have any effect whatsoever

could you shut the server down and start it back up without being inside a tmux session?

[jovial warren]

sure

[quick mist]

I do not expect this to change anything, but I'm just trying to think of anything that might muck with the environment at all

[alpine skiff]

Would you guys be able to tell me real quick what command to run in cmd/which tool to use to find any UDP ports firewall is blocking? I've used a few methods that I found and haven't gotten any results that make sense for what's going on

On windows ^

[quick mist]

sorry, I don't know any Windows Firewall powershell magic off the top of my head

you can probably open up an inspector for it in mmc though

[jovial warren]

ok its running in a raw terminal session right now.

[quick mist]

@jovial warren this is promising:

...promise broken

[jovial warren]

yup same here

[quick mist]

still reporting port 7778 though which is odd

[jovial warren]

you know what hang on.. just for giggles let me spin up another ssh to it and open 7778

[mellow thicket]

can you just disable the firewall all together?

for testing?

[quick mist]

can't hurt

disabling the firewall on a server facing the internet from a datacenter IP? Unwise.

[vagrant turtle]

well, that was fun. hahahah.. my isp decided to do upgrades tonight ... tv OK .. phone and internet (2 business lines) dead for almost 2 hours. heh

[mellow thicket]

what do you have running on it?

[quick mist]

a pivot point to the rest of the network potentially

[jovial warren]

I guess try now?

[vagrant turtle]

ok, 1 hour.. I exaggerate heh

[quick mist]

sure

bingo

[jovial warren]

Ok Devs... ya'll goofed and typed in 7778 in the code..

[quick mist]

guess it pays to listen to the output of ss (:

[jovial warren]

:p

So now we can add 7777 AND 7778 to the ports that need to be open list.

[quick mist]

...sometimes

but that's definitely a troubleshooting step we can add to the quiver

[vagrant turtle]

I actually have 7778 opened anyway .. think I need to open more if I want my friend to join, but he has been quiet today

[jovial warren]

were you able to join?

[mellow thicket]

I joined

[vagrant turtle]

may test that 7777 / 7778 with only 7777

[mellow thicket]

and accidently hit someone too many times

[quick mist]

interestingly your server @jovial warren in the UI is showing this neat info:

whereas mine shows nothing:

[jovial warren]

Well... that's interesting.

[faint wagon]

does anyone have a server i can join to test a bug that crashes the service?

[mellow thicket]

yep.. opcasuals.com

[jovial warren]

you can use mine as well.

[fluid turret]

That happens whenever there is a player in the server while looking at the server manager

it does not load info if there is no one in it for some reason

[quick mist]

aaaah that makes sense; my server has 'pause when no one is on' ticked

[fluid turret]

oh right thats why

[tacit finch]

satisfactory.illmaren.de

[quick mist]

yep, the second I untick that the info shows up

cool

anywho, glad you're up and running, Mr. Renegade (:

[jovial warren]

I will say at least the CPU load is absolutely nothing in comparison to a bunch of other game servers we run

[quick mist]

haha, that's true

[floral aurora]

lol

Just WAIT

[jovial warren]

Yeah thanks, make my new clients all happy too.

[fluid turret]

until you add vehicles and their paths

[quick mist]

though I wonder if that changes with four tractors and eight trains running (:

[floral aurora]

Till players getting there stuff going

[long sable]

Well, I discovered the joys of trying to track player states in the server log... Only way to tell if a player has left is to cross reference their unique identity (steamid/epic games id). Bot is very much a work in progress, but at least tracks some stuff.

[quick mist]

very cool!

is it just tailing and parsing the log or is it probing the server's Query or Beacon port for data?

[long sable]

Currently just tailing and parsing the log

[quick mist]

still, nice

[long sable]

As I'm guessing the beacon and query will change somewhat while dedicated servers are still being worked on, and the log is generally easier to quickly update and fix towards if they change the formatting.

[quick mist]

or things like misspelling 'true' and 'false' (:

[jovial warren]

Well, your all welcome to beat up on my server I have out there... I'm working on a script that wipes it clean every 7 days. Its meant more as a "Try before you Buy" kinda server now...

[long sable]

Yeah lol

[faint wagon]

@mellow thicket yep, i think that confirms the bug

[quick mist]

the deconstructor bug, the parachute bug, or something new?

[faint wagon]

maybe the deconstructor bug? which one is that

[quick mist]

if you mass-deconstruct, and then deconstruct again while the holograms of what you just zapped are still there, crash

[faint wagon]

yep, that one LOL. i didn't realize that was the process, but that's what i did to crash it LOL

[jovial warren]

btw has anyone made a list of console commands yet?

[quick mist]

the only one I know is quit / exit.

[alpine skiff]

^ I was looking for something like that

[slim spoke]

there isnt a list of cmds for dedis yet

[quick mist]

one of the devs said inline help is coming soon

[slim spoke]

they are just basic

[balmy pier]

for anyone who needed to know how to update... i reran the install command and everything works and picked up right where i left off
this command specificly (steamcmd.exe +login anonymous +force_install_dir "F:\TerrariaServer\satisfactory server\steamCMD\satisfactorydedicatedserver" SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 +quit)

[quick mist]

that's one way to make Terraria more satisfactory

[mellow thicket]

lul.. that path

[balmy pier]

hehe, love terraria

[jovial warren]

Hey so for the folks that are on my server right now hang tight i'm going to bounce it really quick to get it back in a tmux session.

[slender idol]

Anyone seen this? [2021.10.28-05.26.09:877][ 0]LogGenericPlatformMisc: Error: SetEnvironmentVar n ot implemented for this platform: SteamAppId = 526870

[quick mist]

you can ignore that

[hearty terrace]

Hey everyone can I load a specific save from the console command line?

[slender idol]

Annoyingly, Steamsubsystem shuts down so no query port.

[quick mist]

not from the command line, no; you have to do it from the Server Settings panel as described on the wiki

[slender idol]

Are there extra ports other than the 3 that open up for this?

Like +1?

[vapid pollen]

can one revert the client version?

[jovial warren]

Ok, server back online... beat on it all ya want..

[hearty terrace]

I have the save file in the right directory, but when I restart the server it still loads a non existing save

[quick mist]

usually no but we just found one case where it's picking new ports that aren't the documented ones

[mellow thicket]

I would open 7778 as well

[jovial warren]

^

[slim spoke]

dope which ports?

they didnt note the range for 7777 like in #multiplayer-troubleshooting

[alpine skiff]

I've done port forwarding, cleared the UDP ports directly in firewall, made sure the log showed the port as listening when starting the server, but it still shows as offline. Any ideas why?

[quick mist]

Don't open new ports at random, ask your server what ports need to be opened with ss or netstat

[slim spoke]

i know that isnt in dedi help

[slender idol]

Ahhhh okay, it opens Game Port and GamePort+1

[jovial warren]

Well it is anyway after the lastest update..

[quick mist]

not always

[fluid turret]

It would be the same range sanctum

[slim spoke]

ya it uses that range

it tries 7777 if it cant have it then it goes up 1 til it finds port to start

[balmy pier]

i want to test if my server is actually being port forwarded would anyone be willing at try and connect to it?

[fluid turret]

I could

[jovial warren]

sure

[balmy pier]

ill do both ill dm you the ip

[jovial warren]

nope offline

hehe Discord is not terminal sanctum 😆 I do it all the time my self too.

[opaque ember]

my server updated via steamcmd and i'm getting "The server and game version are not compatible." when trying to join. launching client through Epic Games Launcher. any idea why they'd be different versions?

[faint wagon]

@opaque ember update your client as well

[opaque ember]

i have tried to do that but it doesn't appear to have an update

[mellow thicket]

also force the install with the update

[faint wagon]

try restart both machines

[long sable]

So I did find a command for the dedicated server

get <INI header> <INI key>

Not sure if the set command works at all though, didn't change anything if I used a similar format.

[alpine skiff]

After making sure everything was okay to go I decided to just add another server to the list using the same IP and it ended up connecting as a client rather than admin. So the client is online, but the instance I'm running as an admin still shows as offline. Anyone know if this will be an issue?

[trail lichen]

uhm... what? ô.o

friend told me that he could not join the server cause it is out of date - so I updated the server but the error is still there.

[faint wagon]

hmm, you're the second person to have that issue in the last 10 minutes

[alpine skiff]

What command did you use to update the server?

[faint wagon]

same as the install command @alpine skiff

[opaque ember]

i just solved this. when i downloaded the client with steamcmd i specified a folder to download it to but my script i wrote that ran the update command for steamcmd didn't specify a folder so when i was running it, i was running the old version. the updated version was under steamapps/common

[trail lichen]

app_update 1690800

[frosty gale]

Question. I play solo, and it keeps crashing

[faint wagon]

@frosty gale try to not mass delete too quickly, there's a bug with mass delete then normal delete

[frosty gale]

Got it

[vagrant turtle]

ok, wtf... suddenly not the admin of my server .. simple restart of my client

[alpine skiff]

I ran this batch file {steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir <Install_Path_Here> SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 +quit} and it worked correctly. I'm on windows though

[alpine skiff]

@vagrant turtle Did you run into this too?

[vagrant turtle]

ok, nvevermind.. just had to re-log in via the "server settings" tab

[trail lichen]

I'm on Windows as well. Batchfile is not working for me, I have to put commands in steamcmd. But I gonna try the whole sequence for downloading the server maybe it works.

brb

[alpine skiff]

Anyone want to test if they can connect to my server?

[slender idol]

Surely the beacon port is supposed to bind or at least show up in the log somewhere...

[jovial warren]

ok so... side question of thing that was asked to me by one of my clients... because well.. another host has decided to word this is such an odd way i'm trying to figure out what the heck they are actually meaning.... Are you able to have multiple instances / game saves at the same time?

[slender idol]

or does it not bind at all and it's outbound?

[alpine skiff]

It bound for me

[slender idol]

Coming from the host perspective myself, an idea would be to symlink the save from the folder it goes to, and put it in a /saves folder.

[alpine skiff]

It's one of the last lines in the log for me

[slender idol]

Each "instance" has a ServerSettings.<port>

It's not exactly made easy for multiple instance hosts thats for sure 😛

[quick mist]

the server can have and track several saves and named "sessions" but only one runs at a time per server instance

so you can load old (or different) saves and whatnot

[jovial warren]

Right and thats what I figured... but another hosting company has listed up to "15 instances" as part of their Sales pitch for their recommended server... so i'm trying to figure out what the heck they are truely meaning by that... like actually runnning instances or just multiple game saves...

[trail lichen]

if you have more than one computer running a server you can have a different save file for each.

it works local, but I'm not sure if you can point the port on more than one machine

[slender idol]

Have you tried it? Just setting different ports etc?

[jovial warren]

Not yet, still working on building our build templates for our clients.. so I haven't tested that part yet..

trying to at least get the base build template setup so we can stand up servers quickly for clients upon request.. but i'm just trying to field current client questions..

[slender idol]

I'm about to give it a shot so gimme like 5 mins?

[jovial warren]

Yeah of course.

[quick mist]

@jovial warren basically every time you start a server when there's already one running, it just binds to the next-higher port(s)

[slender idol]

That's not what he's asking afaik

[quick mist]

so there's no limit (in practical terms) of how many you can run concurrently

but I think each instance will have its own separate saves

(and admin user, etc.)

[trail lichen]

that means you bind to port 15778, 15779, 15780, ...

[jovial warren]

Basically can you assign a world save as an "Instance" and then have that running at the same time with another "Instance" but from what I can tell with the amount of RAM this game consumes that might be a very bad idea on one of our 4x8 servers..

[quick mist]

probably yes, that might not be wise unless you have a good hunk of RAM to dedicate

4-6GiB per instance it looks like

[trail lichen]

@alpine skiff the whole sequence works, server is available again. Thank you for the tip!

[alpine skiff]

No problem! I'm glad I was actually able to help with something lol

[trail lichen]

it also runs below that, but gets a bit laggy

[quick mist]

yeah, not what you want if you're trying to make money with the service (:

[jovial warren]

right... but we do Dedicated VPS servers so our clients are renting Thick provisioned instances we assign.. sooo... they are basically capped at the ram mount they rent.

[alpine skiff]

Speaking of lag. Is there a way to check ping?

[quick mist]

at the server browser

[ionic gale]

does anyone know how to invite friends to server?

[trail lichen]

you can check your own ping in the manage session menu

[alpine skiff]

Ahhhh, duh!

[quick mist]

give 'em your IP address?

[alpine skiff]

Thanks guys

[ionic gale]

okay im using amp so would it be the one they gave me or my router IP?

[quick mist]

I don't speak Amp

sorry

[alpine skiff]

Is Amp a hosting service?

[trail lichen]

give them the IP that is allocated to your router by your ISP

[dim mesa]

Anyone wanna mess around on a dedicated server?

[ionic gale]

thanks @trail lichen

[trail lichen]

AMP is a tool that uses the browser to manage your servers... that's all I know.

[alpine skiff]

Ahhh, then that's about a lightyear above my paygrade

[frosty gale]

hello guys how to uppdate the server

[quick mist]

the only tools I usually need are ssh, vim, and screen or if I'm feeling zealous, systemd

[toxic stump]

anyone using G-Portal as a server provider? and having issues with conveyor lifts making the game poo itself and crash?

[quick mist]

the same steamcmd command used to install it is used to update

[frosty gale]

okey thanks

[jovial warren]

i'll add nano and tmux to that list 😛

[fierce nacelle]

Anyone of you guys have successfully installed mods on Dedi server?

[quick mist]

bit early to be looking for mods methinks

[jovial warren]

Who the heck is the over achiever building mods for an experimental build??

[trail lichen]

yeah, I never played SF with mods as the game is not even finished yet. I'm happy that my server is running! 😄

[quick mist]

hear, hear

[jovial warren]

I 3rd that..

[faint wagon]

anyone else have black water in their pipes on dedis?

[full vector]

you need to replace the filters..

[vagrant turtle]

don't get me wrong, I do play modded games, but so far, this is one that I don't want to use mods on.... except the toilet flush

[full vector]

but its a known issue, all pipes do that

[quick mist]

what an odd way to spell 'crude oil'

[faint wagon]

@full vector 'doh!

😂

also, is health supposed to auto regenerate up to 3 bars still? Mine doesn't 🤷‍♂️

[trail lichen]

I noticed the same yesterday.

[slender idol]

Aight, so the answer? Yes you can.

It's not pretty, but it works.

[jovial warren]

o_O

let me guess 8.6GB of ram consumption

[slender idol]

Sorry this was in answer to your question of multiple instances.

[jovial warren]

no no I get it but Why would anyone want to do that other than just chewing up a ton of Ram?

[slender idol]

Well each instance needs its own thread to function?

[jovial warren]

also does it just show up as another server or a sub server or do you have to input it as a fully separate server in the server manager

[slender idol]

It's a fully separate server

Different port, everything

[jovial warren]

gotcha

does it do the whole "this server isn't claimed" thing?

[slender idol]

Yeah

[hearty terrace]

is there a command to manually save?

[faint wagon]

i'd love a console command to trigger a save, then a backup script on the host

[trail gull]

I am trying to get a dedicated server, running the command given i get access is denied

any help would be nice

[faint wagon]

which command?

also, linux or windows?

[trail gull]

windows
command is
steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir <C:\steamcmd> SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 +quit

[faint wagon]

having steamcmd in the root of your c drive will likely require elevating your permissions to administrator. try running command prompt as admin, then run the command again maybe

[trail gull]

I have tried to run cmd as admin and unfortunately i run into the same problem

[faint wagon]

i don't think you need the < and > on the the C:\steamcmd

not sure if that will help

[trail gull]

alright i fixed it
you were right
way to fix it is to get your cmd into steamcmd folder and running the command without the <>

[ionic gale]

how does one invite a friend to a server using AMP?

[slender idol]

Anyone found a savedir commandline flag yet?

[jovial warren]

not yet.. but I just borked my game install.... thought maybe I could get some better performance by switching to vulkan...

[slender idol]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-eve-on-sesame-street-sesame-street-oscar-oscar-the-grouch-wrong-gif-15746432

[jovial warren]

yeaaa..

I wish there was a native Linux install for Satisfactory as the game client.

[quick mist]

perhaps one day

UE does make it doable

[jovial warren]

yeah since we have a linux dedi option... why not for a linux client?

[twilit fox]

because it barely runs on windows.

[full vector]

They are unlikely to support a linux client because the cost/reward factor is just not in its favor, when it already runs mostly fine in proton or whatever

[jovial warren]

the sad thing is mostly from what I've come across is that it runs better with Proton on Linux than it does in windows.. but.. just wishful thinking of a native Linux client..

[twilit fox]

With SteamOS more linux support may come, if the deck takes off. That poor steam deck trying to run this game though

[rose valley]

I see no reason why we couldn't have this in quite soon.

[patent wren]

wheres the best place to advertise a dedicated server?

[reef verge]

Experimental on Epic patched this morning and now is not compatible with the Dedicated server? I have tried patching the server but no patch available? Any ideas?

[fluid turret]

Are you using steamcmd?

[reef verge]

Yes

[hearty terrace]

What are you using windows or linux?

[reef verge]

Windows 10

[hearty terrace]

assuming linux based off your last comment

oh

[reef verge]

Was working 100% last night

[fluid turret]

Have you run steamcmd recently, each run it automatically updates steamcmd then you need to try installing updates for the tool

[reef verge]

Several times this morning

[hearty terrace]

hmm yeah, I've heard to use the install commands and not the update commands when trying to update

I ended up reinstalling the server and that worked for me

[reef verge]

Will try that thnx

[fluid turret]

there actually is no difference, atleast I have never seen anyone point out the difference in commands

[hearty terrace]

I just grabbed the save and made the server exactly how I had the previous one

same name, everything

[tepid comet]

Can I symlink my save from the server directory to the parent SaveGames directory? I want to share saves between the two directories

[fluid turret]

@reef verge Make sure you dont have more than one FactoryServer.exe

[fluid turret]

Why exactly do you want to do that

[reef verge]

Just 1 - Installed first time yesterday

[fluid turret]

updating with steamcmd can accidentally install it into a different folder

[tepid comet]

because generally I play as a client on my server but there are a few things that require me to be a host player such as interacting with trains and for this I need to have the save outside the dedicated server

[hearty terrace]

grab a copy of your save file and go the nuclear option if all else fails.

all in all, took me about 5 mins to 10 mins to reinstall a fresh server with the latest update

[fluid turret]

You are running Satisfactory on linux?

[tepid comet]

nope, windows

[full vector]

in steamcmd, there is no difference between install and update, and the update command should also include the force_install_dir directive - the wiki unfortunately leaves that out, which i think is whats tripping up some people

[tepid comet]

☝️ this

[full vector]

seems like the update command was removed from the wiki now though

[tepid comet]

I made two .bat files. One for install, update and verify, and another one for regular startup. Shall I put them in the wiki?

[fluid turret]

I legit have never done a symlink on windows, never crossed my mind that it was a thing

[hearty terrace]

that'd be really helpful

[fluid turret]

just dm him or send it here Flummi

[tepid comet]

oh yeah, NTFS supports special sauce hard links even, called junctions. They are great for moving big directories onto external hard drives without anyone (aka Steam for example) noticing

[fluid turret]

I had just only done it on linux before

[alpine dawn]

So, my wife and I played on the new dedicated server for over 2 hours to test and had no issues. Pretty happy with the results 🙂

[alpine dawn]

I have had to do that before on a server

Program was hard coded to store it's data on the c drive in program files

I wanted it on the data drive array

[tepid comet]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers?cb=5875#Example_.bat_files /cc @fluid turret

hope this helps, feel free to edit of course

[tepid comet]

my friend and me encountered server crashes and client disconnects but overall it worked quite well, indeed. Aside from the usual multiplayer client issues.

[tepid comet]

in case you know: does g-portal still use their old DIY dedicated server or have they switched to the wonderful official dedicated server now?

[tepid comet]

many reasons, here's a few: many flavours of linux times many different graphical environments times many different graphic drivers times many different graphic cards times many different ways to get sound out of your speakers times ..... . That equals a lot of very different configurations that would have to be tested and / or at least have to be kept in mind. And then there are only very few people actually running linux on a desktop compared to Windows or Mac.

[dense monolith]

Hey, i need little help, with the Setup on a Windows server.
I Installed the Server with steamcmd, install was all successful, but now i will start the Server and the cmd says always an error:
Error: SetEnvironmentVar not implemented for this platform: SteamAppID = 526870

[tepid comet]

whilst not specifically addressing your issue, I just put two example .bat scripts in the wiki. You might want to compare against what you have: https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Example_.bat_files

[slender idol]

Thats normal

Thankfully it looks like we've got all our automated provisioning stuff setup. That was a pain! 😂

Just collating the various tweaks for our knowledgebase now.

[dense monolith]

ok, give me a second, i will test it

again the same problem.

[alpine skiff]

So I've got my server up and running and am actually playing on it right now, but when I ask my friend to join they tell me that it's offline. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[dense monolith]

here is my log

[tepid comet]

welp, dunno then

[alpine skiff]

They enter the correct IP, but it shows up as if it's a brand new server that they're trying to host rather than showing up as a client

[dusk flicker]

Is your server behind your router? Have you forwarded the ports required for others to reach your server?

[alpine skiff]

I did

And it is

[dusk flicker]

Have you tried connecting to your server from outside your network yourself?

Eg tether to your mobile and then try to connect

[alpine skiff]

No, I wasn't sure how to test that

[dusk flicker]

Sounds like your network isn't configured correctly

[timid slate]

They still use their ills system at of now. They are working on migrating

[alpine skiff]

My Host NAT is open and the log showed that it was listening to 15000 and 7777 so I figured it was fine

[reef verge]

Thanks - Using the INSTALL commands in SteamSMD with Validate seemed to work - Now connecting fine. Did not need to uninstall or delete folders or anything - just included the force_install_dir and validate.

[alpine skiff]

Although Im pretty new to all of this with this being my first time trying to host a server

[dusk flicker]

You also need 15777 if I'm not mistaken? (I'm on my mobile so I'd have to double check that's the correct port)

[alpine skiff]

I do have that being forwarded, but I didn't see it anywhere in the log

[reef verge]

15000, 15777 and 7777 ports

[dusk flicker]

15777 is the query port

[sharp pagoda]

Does anybody encounter a save game brick so far? Got some belts that are bricking the save game when deleted. (Only on dedicated server, works normal in singelplayer)

[alpine skiff]

I see. I've made sure to clear them through the firewall also. So I've forwarded all three and then allowed connection to all three. I'm not sure what else I could do

[tepid comet]

I see, ty

[dusk flicker]

That's all you should need to do. Did you point the ports to the local ip of your server?

[alpine skiff]

I did. Everything looks to be set up correctly

They're in slovenia, could that be the issue?

[dusk flicker]

Wouldn't matter where in the world you are if it's configured correctly

[alpine skiff]

How can I test it outside of my network?

[dusk flicker]

Can your desktop tether to your mobile?

[tepid comet]

give someone here your IP and ask them to connect?

[dusk flicker]

Or that

[alpine skiff]

Actually yeah my pc could just use my hotspot

Dont know why I didnt think of that lol

[dusk flicker]

Yeah if you hotspot to your mobile then try that

If it doesn't work it's something not setup correctly

Also make sure you're using your external IP and not your lan IP

I've seen that mistake more often than I'd like to admit

[tepid comet]

I improved the .bat file in the wiki more. Now, where do I sign up for head pats from Jace and Snutt? 😛

[slender idol]

As a heads up

The standard -Multihome flag for IP locking works

So -Multihome=111.111.111.111 would lock your ports to that IP if you have multiple

Just a little bit of fun knowledge

[velvet abyss]

not satisfactory directly related but anyone else using this nssm thing? i got it setup but i must have not picked the right directory or something, its creating a blank game

[slender idol]

Blank game?

[alpine skiff]

Wait a sec

[velvet abyss]

like, it prompts me the game is unclaimed again

doesn't seem to be loading the save

[alpine skiff]

Dont tell me they have to use my public IP and not my lan IP

[dusk flicker]

Well they aren't on your local network are they

Lol

[slender idol]

The server settings are directly related to the Query port. You'll find theres a file called ServerSettings.<port> in the save games stuff

Realistically it should load that

[dusk flicker]

If you want people to play that aren't behind your router they need to use your public ip

[alpine skiff]

Okay since I can't post a gif just imagine me facepalming lol

[velvet abyss]

yeah i have been running the server fine no issue (well, minus the crashing). i'm talking about the service manager thing the wiki lists

"This will pull up a GUI for configuration. Set the "Path" to the location of FactoryServer.exe, You can modify other settings if you want, but that's the only required step. Click "install", then run this command."

[dusk flicker]

Don't know bout y'all but running satisfactory on unraid is great

[alpine skiff]

So I used my public IP and they're still showing as offline. Could I send it to one of you to test?

[rose valley]

Do you have some crash callstacks? We want to deal with the crashes first.

[velvet abyss]

uuuh i have been sending the crash reports whenever i get them. there are logs in the server directory is there a way for me to send those to you

i'm dumb and don't know what a callstack is exactly

it seems like most of them are related to deconstructing multiple structures which i think has been reported

[rose valley]

Ah yes. we know about that one.

[velvet abyss]

yeah, i figured, i wasn't going to do much complaining since i was pretty sure it was on your radar

[oak steeple]

guys how can i update the server ? On windows

[velvet abyss]

there's the line on the wiki about the server uploading crash reports by default on linux. does it do the same on windows?

or is it possible to add that same line and change false to true to make it do so

also hi i love the game btw! great job whatever it is you do sorry not familiar with yalls names

[slender idol]

That's moreso that linux will give a core dump

-fullcrashdump is the flag on windows for UE4 in general though

Not sure if it applies here.

[slender idol]

might be helpful

[rose valley]

This. You'd have to enable it explicitly on WIndows. It's all quite temporary, we'll handle it better in the future.

[alpine skiff]

I'm so confused.... I started the server while I was tethered to my phone's network and had my friend try to connect only for them to say that it showed up as offline... Then I unplugged my phone from the PC and plugged my ethernet back in and it magically appeared as online. I will never understand networking lol\

[velvet abyss]

i'll change that then so you guys get some more data

[oak steeple]

How do i update the Server on windows ?

[velvet abyss]

the same way you installed it right now

that steamcmd line

[oak steeple]

app_update 1690800 is enought ?

[slender idol]

To explain:

In basic terms, when you start your server without the -Multihome flag (which is by default) you will be broadcasting the server on all interfaces (0.0.0.0). Which means that when you tethered to your phone, it will be broadcasting on that IP (which will be different to your home internet IP address)

So if you gave your friend the home IP, that explains why when you pulled the tether and replugged in your ethernet, it magically appeared.

[velvet abyss]

no you need to do the exact same line to install it from what i understand

the update part isnt working

[slender idol]

try app_update 1690800 validate

but louis is correct, its the same regardless of if you're installing or updating

[oak steeple]

just wanna make sure ill keep msy save

[velvet abyss]

oh it actually is. i didn't even read it

ya when i c&ped the line again to update earlier my saves stayed

[brisk parrot]

im having the same issue as @oak steeple cant figure out how to fix it

[slender idol]

Well your saves aren't located in the install directory

[slender idol]

Have you tried deleting your save/ServerSettings. file?

The server seems to hang onto those files and not update them post-launch even if you reinstall, causes a bit of a headache.

[fathom ore]

Can someone please advise how to check if I have the right ports open? netstat -p udp -a shows 15000, 15777 and 7777 entries.

[slender idol]

You should also have 7778 as well

sometimes

but that would be correct for Beacon, Query and GamePort yes

At least at the default.

[oak steeple]

i did it with the command steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 +quit

hopefully that works

at least it does update now

[fathom ore]

Ah I think one of my port forwards didn't save

[slender idol]

If that doesn't work, make it the below:

steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 validate +quit

[oak steeple]

but it does validate it without the validate command

[rose valley]

It doesn't. It's a good idea to have validate there all the time.

[oak steeple]

ok 😉

starting server to test now

[slender idol]

Validate will compare all the game's files against what is up on steam at the time. Just updating will just grab any you don't have, and won't check the ones you do have.

[rose valley]

validate will also force an update if there is one available and your steamdb is a little out of date.

[tepid comet]

good to know

[oak steeple]

i can connect thx guys

any chance the pipe hole crash is fixed ?

[tepid comet]

fwiw, here's my do-it-all bat file for windows. It installs, updates, validates and starts the server and if there's an error it will keep the terminal window open so you can take a look at it:

set steamcli=c:\steamcmd
set satisdedicated=d:\SatisfactoryDedicatedServer
set steamopts=validate

%steamcli%\steamcmd.exe +login anonymous +force_install_dir %satisdedicated% +app_update 1690800 %steamopts% +quit
if %errorlevel% neq 0 pause & exit /b %errorlevel%
cd /D %satisdedicated%
FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended

It's also in the wiki.

[stray zealot]

I just want the uranium node to be fixed and coop not crash client

[cedar notch]

how i can start the server in ubuntu. Satisfactory is installed 😄

[slender idol]

cd <your/install/dir>
./FactoryServer.sh

voila

[tepid comet]

Bogdan, if I may: is symlinking the saves from server to the parent directory a good idea? I want to not have to move them back and forth all the time when I run into these "works only for the host" situations (trains, possibly conveyor lift floor holes, etc.)

[cedar notch]

hm

[slender idol]

Realistically we should have a -savedir flag to set where the ServerSettings and server/saves go

[alpine skiff]

So did it just create a fresh connection which allowed the ports to open up? I think I understand what happened on the technical level from what you said, but I still don't quite understand why it helped. Sorry for the ignorance and thank you for your explanation

[rose valley]

I'd keep them separate on the off chance the server corrupts saves. It's more experimental than the game so bad things can happen.

[slender idol]

Nah, wouldn't have made a difference really. It was likely okay the first time, just needed to retry.

[tepid comet]

I see, good point. I take it that's the reason there's two different directories in the first place?

whoops, sorry I left the ping on

[slender idol]

Is it at all possible to get a flag to set a save directory? Would be handy to have everything in the one spot per-instance. That being said, I'd imagine it's a hangover from the SP client?

Oops. Same 😂

[slender idol]

Yeah it'd be that that's where the SP client would save the files, and this'll be a stripped down version of the client.

[tepid comet]

also: is this your rabbit? It's huge 😮

[alpine skiff]

Ahhh okay, that's good to know

[rose valley]

As a result of popular demand there will be changes to how we handle the save directories but I'm not sure exactly where we're taking it yet.

[slender idol]

That would be much appreciated. Particularly from a host's point of view, having things in a central area regardless of what instance they're installed on isn't great. For a home host that's likely fine, albeit a little hidden

[tepid comet]

I like to think there's some entity in the game that dispatches space ticks to get in the way of the player building her factory

[unborn hill]

Is anyone able to play on their servers at the moment? Got an update on gameclient last night. And on server today. But they are not compatible so cant log on. 🤔

[slender idol]

Use validate in your update script - should pull the hotfix.

[cedar notch]

How can i fix that? Refusing to run with the root privileges.

[slender idol]

Never run as root

[stuck drum]

so, dedicated servers, i'm guessing that means like say, minecraft style, leave it running, anyone whitelisted can join etc?

[slender idol]

or passworded/unpassworded yes. No whitelist functionality atm, just a password

[alpine skiff]

Y

[stuck drum]

same deal yeah

that sounds awesome

[rose valley]

No whitelist planned. Maybe support for multiple passwords but whitelists are redundant when you have passwords.

[slender idol]

Agree wholeheartedly

[unborn hill]

Thanks for the reply ^^ Thats what we did :s Both on server and client. Still no luck. Hmm

[slender idol]

@unborn hill

steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 validate +quit

You did that?

[dusk flicker]

Passwords can be leaked for community servers

Whitelists still jave their use cases

[rose valley]

Passwords can be leaked for any online service. If you can have individual passwords then it's just like anything else out there.

[unborn hill]

Yes :s

[rose valley]

I agree that sharing passwords is a vulnerability but that's probably changing.

[slender idol]

I think they're meaning more that the ability to set a steamID/EOS ID would be handy in the long run for larger services.

Bit different when it's IP based and direct connect.

[dusk flicker]

Yea I didn't mean it's the be all and end all

[rose valley]

Problem is that anyone can claim to be anyone. The player ID is just a field in a network packet.

[dusk flicker]

But they definitely do serve a good purpose from time to time

[slender idol]

Tried reinstalling to a separate folder and booting that?

[slender idol]

Yeah rather the probability of someone doing that just to raid a server whilst existent, is minute in comparison to a password leak. Much less possibility, but it exists.

[alpine skiff]

So my server is working perfectly now, but when it wasn't working the log would end at this red line every time and seemed to stop running. Any ideas why this might have been? In case it's an issue when I wake up tomorrow lol

[unborn hill]

Haven't tried that. Will give it a go.

[slender idol]

Seemed to stop running? or actually crashed the process? It'll sit there until theres activity.

[tepid comet]

I'm actually in that exact situation right now

[slender idol]

Mind you, if you click the console at all, you will pause the process

Do not click on the black bit.

[alpine skiff]

It just stopped. After a few minutes of it doing nothing I would always just closed it out

[tepid comet]

my server was running fine last night but now it "appears to be offline" and I can't get past the red line

something's afoot

[slender idol]

Folder in use / storage is full

[rose valley]

Even if we did end up with whitelists, it won't be in a plaintext whitelist. However, I'm not a dictator and it would be great if you guys requested whitelists at:
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com

[slender idol]

Make sure server is off

[atomic pasture]

Make sure satisfactory is not running while doing that. Happened to me to and fixed it by just shutting satisfactory down

[tepid comet]

how did you fix it?

[dusk flicker]

I believe you wear the pants 😅 let's make it happen haha

[alpine skiff]

Somehow tethering my pc to my phone and then reconnecting my ethernet (so just switching IPs back and forth) seemed to have worked. I'm not sure why, but I think it corresponds with a guy who got his to work by switching over to a VPN earlier

[timid plank]

how to turn the server off ?
the server command prompt disappears and the server launch

[tame solar]

wouldn't whitelists need to tie to EOS ID, so that when someone changes their account name, their whitelist status is unaffected, and to prevent impostors (someone taking up another person's account name)?

it is true that Minecraft whitelists support both account ID and plain usernames

[tepid comet]

I see, I'll try mess around with (de-) activating my network interfaces on that machine and see if that helps

[alpine skiff]

Ope thanks for telling me this because I always click the black bit

[slender idol]

Find FactoryServer.exe in the task manager and End Task

If it's not there, you're all good.

[slender idol]

It'll bind to 0.0.0.0 so it shouldn't have an issue.

[rose valley]

They would. And I agree they are convenient. The problem that I have with them is that they are a sort of security through obscurity in the sense that you can figure out someone's EOS/Steam ID quite easily. So to the determined, resourceful attacker, they are just a mere annoyance.

Not that sharing a single password is better than that but I'd much rather go towards having individual passwords myself.

[tame solar]

thank you for the answer 😄

[brisk parrot]

what pots need to be forwarded?

ports*

[tepid comet]

tell that to the server lol

[dusk flicker]

But then if you wanted to find out if someone has leaked there password eg, two people connected using the same credentials how would we identify them? Seeing as passwords should remain confidential

[frosty gale]

15000, 7777, 15777

[timid plank]

i didn't found factoryserver but, i found satisfactory.exe with 0% using on processor

[tepid comet]

you show up at their door step, that's how

[brisk parrot]

is it udp or anything else?

[slender idol]

UDP only

[slender idol]

Thats the game

[timid plank]

and the server is updated !

[slender idol]

Beautiful!

[leaden grotto]

Nice

[frosty gale]

If you guys want a easy way to install the server you guys can use "pterodactyl" on linux. They have an egg for this game it's on "beta" but it's easy.

[unborn hill]

@slender idol Managed to make it work. Thanks for the help!

[lofty latch]

pterodactyl - easy - pick one xD

[slender idol]

Happy to help 🙂

[alpine skiff]

Ahhhh so that's what that post on the QA meant

[tepid comet]

sounds eggcellent

[frosty gale]

xD both

[tepid comet]

(I'm sure nobody ever made that pun)

[alpine skiff]

I thought they were legitimately asking for pterodactyl eggs to be added to the game

[frosty gale]

There's an egg already

[lofty latch]

Scuse me while I whip out the installation guide for Ptero xD

[tepid comet]

to play golf with, great idea

[frosty gale]

xD whole bible of guide

[lofty latch]

I've got the fun today of recording and editing a video about setting up Satisfactory in AMP

I have to drink constantly otherwise you can hear clicks and pops from my mouth moving xD

[tepid comet]

Problem: I moved the save games from the server directory up so the regular game can see and load them. Except it doesn't see them.

[rose valley]

You need to move them up and then down to your player id save directory.

Create a save from within game, check out where it is placed and copy saves there.

[tepid comet]

oh, thanks! Will try that asap

[rose valley]

Also there is no filesystem watcher that looks for new saves so if you already have the load menu open, then save won't appear there unless you reopen that menu.

[tepid comet]

there are save files in the directory I moved them to. Are those remains from an earlier version?

[alpine skiff]

Wait you were able to get it back online?

[slender idol]

I have placed a request on the questions webpage - would encourage you all to upvote it would be amazingly helpful!!

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/617a6890831c8520523547ae

[lofty latch]

I've been wanting this - storing stuff in the home/profile directory is pain

[tepid comet]

no, I gave up on running it as a dedicated server for now. I should really be working on my master thesis instead of messing with super experimental multiplayer stuff 😛

[slender idol]

Valheim did a similar thing. Wasn't impressed.

But, they fixed! 😄

[lofty latch]

if you run it as a service it ends up in C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\NetworkService\AppData\

on Linux you can at least do something about this

[slender idol]

You can?

News to me without a savedir flag

[lofty latch]

yeah, I wrote a library that hooks into the executable and redirects file/directory open/create/read requests

so when the app tries to open /home/whatever/.config/foo/bar it quietly redirects it to a path of your choice

the app has no idea anything is different

[alpine skiff]

I feel you on that. I have my month's work due in 4 days and woke up this morning planning to do it... But then I watched Jace and Snutt play golf for 20 minutes. Been doing this ever since

[slender idol]

Cool stuff!

[tepid comet]

I feel called out 😅

[lofty latch]

I nearly deployed this feature for Valheim until they sorted it xD

Valheim is ofc Unity rather than Unreal

[tepid comet]

worked like a charm! Can I delete the other saves in the SaveGames directory?

[rose valley]

Don't delete the ServerSettings or ServerManager files but anything else can go away.

[tepid comet]

gotcha!

[foggy agate]

but where are the ServerSettings?

I don't get it. in my steam user only the save files appear.

[rose valley]

They are in the save directory, and that differs between Windows and Linux.

[versed valley]

Is there an open server list?

[rose valley]

There isn't. If you want one please request it on https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
Personally I think it would be nice but not in the current state of the server or the game.

[foggy agate]

At least for me they arn't in the saved directory.

[rose valley]

Go into SaveGames

[foggy agate]

there are only the saveGames no .ini files in there.

[rose valley]

The ServerSettings file is not an ini file. It's a binary. It contains sensitive things such as passwords hence why it's not a text file. All you can do with it is delete it to reset your password.

[foggy agate]

ahh okay, now it makes sense.

I just wondered because they talked in the wiki about .ini files, that just weren't there for me 😄

[brisk parrot]

any idea whats causing this, i did port forwarding, allowed through firewall, just keep getting error

[native osprey]

So my Server keeps crashing now. https://pastebin.com/BDY26fHS It works fine in Single player, but the map crashes the DS

[slender idol]

Did you port forward the .exe?

Usually that works

[lofty latch]

one does not port forward an executable 🤦‍♂️

[brisk parrot]

i port forwarded the three ports suggested, i allowed the exe's through the firewall

[slender idol]

Well if they try the exe, and it works, then no problems, they're likely missing the GamePort+1 though

Which isn't explained in the wiki

Thats the port those unet things try to connect to

[rose valley]

Known and being worked on. Hang tight!

[atomic pasture]

Remove you autosave files, so autosave_0, autosave_1 and autosave_2 in your servers SaveGames folder. Me and a couple other people got that aswell. But when we removed them we could log in without issues!

[lofty latch]

I'm being told that the game port is now 7778 rather than 7777?

[main void]

grr works calls, no more playing around, see you all later

[rose valley]

There must be something else listening on 7777. Server tries the next port if the default is taken. (Also there is a -Port=nnnn parameter that you can use to override the game port. It was not correctly documented at first ).

[wraith skiff]

when will version 170429 FactoryServer online..?

[lofty latch]

I misspoke - I meant my users are telling me it's changed - methinks a Chinese whisper is happening

[thorny temple]

from what I see on my own running server, 15000 is now 7778

[lofty latch]

never mind - it's a user being daffy and me being panicky xD

hundreds of new satisfactory servers go up and I'm sat here like :\

[rose valley]

Business is booming.

[lofty latch]

no kidding

I literally cannot keep up with the sheer number of people I've got to deal with

todays job is putting together more documentation and tutorials

[native osprey]

Awesome, thank you

[lofty latch]

not at all, just not advertising 'hey free stuff' for more than a few seconds xD

you are indeed welcome to it 🙂

[worn heath]

Bogdan my fix of server not working was to just add -MultiHome=<ip> because i have 2 ips on dedicated server and i allocated that another one and just hell happen

[rose valley]

That's really good to know. I'm not sure if we can do anything about the default behavior.

[rain sun]

Yo, so why does satisfactory server not appear in my library? (even after switching to tools)

[lofty latch]

I wonder if -MultiHome=0.0.0.0 will behave as intended

[atomic pasture]

So, i just noticed that i don't have signs on dedicated servers? Is it just a dedicated server thing or what's going on? Checked my singelplayer save and signs was there.

[worn heath]

by default its 0.0.0.0 i think

[rose valley]

I mean.. 0.0.0.0 is the default.

[lofty latch]

I know, but I've seen apps be daffy when you do that

I've seen it allllll

[tame solar]

did you unlock them yet? you need quartz crystals researched

[lofty latch]

or things like -MultiHome=::1 , or -MultiHome=[::1]

[rain sun]

Did you all have dedicated server tool right off the bat?

[worn heath]

about dedicated servers rn its no way to make plugins or interact with game? or that will be soon tm, like to make some way to protect idk buildings from x users

[rose valley]

Well, in the name of science, I dare you try that!

[atomic pasture]

that could explain it. Silly me that don't use my brain x)

[lofty latch]

lol xD

[rose valley]

We don't support IPv6 at the moment, btw.

[lofty latch]

boooo

[tame solar]

no worries, the system is new, patch notes mention it but I don't think the game does

[rose valley]

We are boomers.

[tacit finch]

yeah had that problem yesterday

Why the hell no IPv6 Support?

go with the time XD

[lofty latch]

this is the thing I hate about when a game server is suddenly really popular

if I mis-step, hundreds of servers go offline >_< gotta tread lightly and test everything a kajillion times

[rose valley]

Well I tried enabling it and things blew up in my face. So I'll have to take some time to figure out why it isn't working but I'd say it's a must.

[worn heath]

someone did stress testing satisfactory server with more than 4x players?

[rain sun]

how to get dedicated server tool 😦

[lofty latch]

SteamCMD

[tame solar]

check pins

[lofty latch]

command line only right now

[tacit finch]

Mhm

[lofty latch]

okay but -GamePort is now -Port and is working as intended?

so indeed all 3 ports can be reassigned and it behaves?

[rain sun]

Alright ill do it the cmd way

[rose valley]

That should be the case. Still no redirection though. Also a must.

[lofty latch]

aye, but I can do -Port={{$ApplicationPort1}} -BeaconPort={{$ApplicationPort2}} -ServerQueryPort={{$ApplicationPort3}} and it'll all behave the way I'm expecting

[rose valley]

yessir

[lofty latch]

excellent

[worn heath]

its any rule where i cant share my server ip in any channel? ( because of idk someone will yoink ips or bitch with people ) to just test

[lofty latch]

you saw nothing...

[brazen flame]

hey hey, so, if i wanted a mate to join my server, all i need to provide to him is my external ip address right?

[tacit finch]

My guess is still that the no IP sharing rules comes for people who host it on their home network.

People who post a TLD have in 9 of 10 cases way more experience in this regard and know what they do.

@rose valley Prove me wrong 😄

[lofty latch]

@rose valley btw is there going to be any documentation for the beacon protocol? Is that some standard Epic thing or something in-house?

it seems to be used to provide the console so I'd love to access that

[worn heath]

i mean i have that on dedicated and behind firewall + ovh thing soo for me ddos is just normal because i have more servers in other games

[rose valley]

That's reserved to the game itself and won't be documented. We might put up a REST API though. Only thing holding me back is that I can't trust people to put our HTTP server behind an HTTPS proxy and doing HTTPS within the game is too much work.

[proud dagger]

I’ve been trying to find anything on the type of query used against the server. Is there something you might be able to point me to? Thanks 🙂

[worn heath]

or thing where we can host beacon port or query one with seperate app than using game itself and redirecting to gameport one

[lofty latch]

restrict it to localhost so they have to set one up? reject the request if it doesn't have a header from a reverse proxy?

[rose valley]

Yeah but it's too easy for someone to just forward requests to localhost without actually doing any hardening.

[lofty latch]

a rest API isn't ideal though because you can't stream it - something more similar to WebRCON (Websockets based) would be better.

[rose valley]

But also less established. Most people could figure out how to interact with a REST api.

[unborn hill]

Another quick question. Anyone had any issues with parts going invisible all of a sudden. Pipes/conveyors. They are still there, you cant walk through them, but can't see them. A restart of the server fixes this for a short time.

[lofty latch]

there's also standard protocols like the valve RCON protocol which lots of tools support, but that does have the same problem of sending passwords in plaintext... this is a problem AMP has because we similarly don't like users setting things up in insecure ways

[rose valley]

That is a very simple protocol that we might document once we feel confident it's stable enough.

[lofty latch]

frankly though being able to send input to STDIN to run admin commands would make me very happy

if I can invoke kick/ban and get player information

[proud dagger]

Thank you! I haven’t seen anything like it previously, just need something so my infrastructure can query for limitations and such per server

[rose valley]

Perhaps you'd want to share what you would find useful? The query protocol basically can only check for version and server state (loading, running) at the moment and that seems to be enough for now.

[lofty latch]

number of players and player limit

[tacit finch]

PLayer Count

[meager summit]

version would be nice for the people getting version mismatches anmd not knowing which needs updating

[rose valley]

We have version but it's just a build number and not the nice version. We'd probably need to add that information to the UI with the version mismatch message.

[proud dagger]

Player count is a big one, and loaded map would be nice as well as each connected players name. Those seem to be the standards my customers enjoy but player count is a big one as my software can put hard limits and send out warnings to customers trying to do nefarious things

[meager summit]

what was the deal with all the mismatches yesterday? i couldnt quite tell what people didnt have updated but it was getting a lot of people

[smoky pollen]

I have a problem installing the server on steam cmd, it says: Access denied

[brazen flame]

hey hey, so, if i wanted a mate to join my server, all i need to provide to him is my external ip address right?

[meager summit]

does steamcmd not update stuff properly?

[tacit finch]

For the Server Version it would be nice if it could check the Server Version of the Joining player. Server sees ahhh my Version is older and I have no player? Lets restart and get the newest Server Build.

[tame solar]

is the nice version even shown in the base game?

[tacit finch]

steamcmd handles update good enough you just need to tell it to do so.

[rose valley]

Don't know. It seems to have gotten away on it's own. We are keeping on eye on it if it keeps happening. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rose valley]

No, exactly.

[meager summit]

it seemed like user errors tbh, not knowing how to use their tools but idk about steamcmd so couldnt say

[tame solar]

the nice version is also kind of hard to track, but it's gotten better since update 2
notice some patches share the nice version but differ by build numbers, or have been released with separate patch notes for stable and experimental

[smoky pollen]

Anybody knows how to fix this error?

[meager summit]

run with admin priv? or is that a linux cmd

[lofty latch]

no - he's put <> in the path

he copied it verbatim xD

[lofty latch]

same command again but without the < and >

[smoky pollen]

il try

[meager summit]

but then there wont be a space between path and command!

[lofty latch]

there is a space, he added extra characters

oh wait he also completely typed the command wrong...

loooool

impressive

[smoky pollen]

force_install_dir C:\steamcmdSatisfactoryDedicatedServer
so.. like this?

[lofty latch]

no - you've skipped half of the command

[full vector]

Doesnt UE4 come with a built-in standard RCON protocol that already has established tooling and formating?

[smoky pollen]

?

[lofty latch]

It sends authentication data in cleartext, same problem as RCON/etc

[meager summit]

steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir <Install_Path_Here> SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 +quit

thats the wiki one right? might wanna follow the wiki yourself

[rose valley]

No. That's steam integration. Which we don't have cause we want crossplay.

[tacit finch]

plainPassword bad mkay

[brazen flame]

hey hey, so, if i wanted a mate to join my server, all i need to provide to him is my external ip address right?

[proud dagger]

SET STEAMCMD="C:\steamcmd\steamcmd.exe"
%STEAMCMD% +login anonymous +force_install_dir "C:\Satisfactory Test\Server 1" +app_update 1690800 validate +quit

Copy and paste that into a text file

[lofty latch]

We'd be happy to furnish you with a RCON library that isn't tied into Steam - we re-implemented our own server matching the same protocol

[proud dagger]

Name it install.bat

[rose valley]

Or maybe it does and I completely missed it? Have any links?

[lofty latch]

a few studios use our RCON implementation actually, esp for Unity games

[proud dagger]

UE4 does have a standard RCON protocol but steams source is just as well and easy to use

[lofty latch]

they both have the problem that @rose valley was worried about with REST though in that it's not secure

unless the user can be trusted to take extra steps, the password is sent cleartext over the wire

[full vector]

unless he wants transport encryption, no protocol is going to improve that - and he said thats not wanted 🙂

[proud dagger]

I missed that

[rose valley]

UE4 Has something called online beacons which we are using as our secure comms channel and also as a remote console.

It's not that I don't want it (https) it's that we'd have to write an HTTPS server ourselves since what comes with the engine does only HTTP. That's a big undertaking, especially if you want to do it right.

[full vector]

maybe the rcon support i'm thinking about is actually a plugin that many UE4 games seem to share

[brazen flame]

hey hey, so, if i wanted a mate to join my server, all i need to provide to him is my external ip address right?

[tacit finch]

yes

but dont make it public

Never ever make it public

Dont even think about it

[proud dagger]

Leave that to the professionals 🕴️

[lofty latch]

There is a way to make it safe actually - use a pre-shared HMAC key - the server would generate one randomly on server first start (or user could provide their own) and the REST client would have to sign its login request with it - this avoids either the HMAC key or the password going over the wire as plain-text but doesn't require that the user be trusted to configure HTTPS

[proud dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-computer-typing-fast-gif-5368357

[lofty latch]

I believe Space Engineers uses this approach

[tacit finch]

Ahh btw. Bogdan...you guys want to put something akin to a FileService into the Game. (handling saves and so on) how is this going to work? sftp would be a bit overkill (and almost impossible) 😄

[lofty latch]

it's also commonplace enough that people wouldn't have a hard time using it - heck I'd even have someone write the code samples for you xD

login request is the wrong word, authentication token

[rose valley]

Yes that's a possibility I've been considering too. In any case, at the very moment there are more pressing issues to be handled although this will be looked into sometime in the near future. I may come back here to gather ideas and preferences in the future.

[regal heart]

im kinda new to this stuff but i would like to understand more about dedicated servers....
so if i run it on my local pc how will my friend connect to it ? will he even be able to ?

or i do need to purchase a server to host the game on it ?

[rose valley]

Yeah good question. Another thing we don't have support for in the engine. At the moment I'm leaning towards a TCP socket, with some sort of custom protocol.

[rain sun]

I cant do this shit

[proud dagger]

If we could set the place for saves manually through arguements, server providers would be able to take care of save transfers without a problem by default. But the way it’s set now, we have to do it ourselves. Giving remote access right now is impossible due having to protect customer data

[lofty latch]

aye of course - please do feel free to reach out though - our job is literally game server administration, we've done and seen it all, worked with every provider under the sun and are always happy to offer advice to studios and developers, we're (respectfully) very familiar with the fact that they are game developers first and server developers second.

I think Jace might have my details? we talked at one point - scratch that, that was 2019 - I doubt he remembers xD

[smoky pollen]

Thanks. it finaly worked!

[tacit finch]

Will be interesting what you guys will do in the end.

As its only save files would it not be ok to just make temporary FTP connection? Even FTPS would be ok.

Not making the FTP Server a permament occupant. Only when someone wants to see the Files

[rain sun]

The command for the windows cmd in the wiki does not work for me

[regal heart]

i cant find the satisfactory dedicated server on steam and i did show the tools

[rose valley]

We are considering that but first and foremost I want people to be able to manage games (and the server overall) completely from within the game.

[proud dagger]

You need to go over the documentation, be sure to understand port forwarding in your local network, once you have it all done then you can give your friends your public IP address, or you can rent from a provider

[lofty latch]

FTPS is not a trivial protocol to implement

[rain sun]

this one does not work either

[proud dagger]

Did you put it in a text file and make it a .bat extension?

[rain sun]

oh

hold on

[frosty gale]

docker + volume cant do that ?

[lofty latch]

be mindful that there are certain things that hosts really won't want users from being able to touch in game - network settings, storage paths, etc

because they need oversight of those kinds of details

[rose valley]

Yeah I agree. Those are not game concerns.

[lofty latch]

👍

[rain sun]

What should happen?

[wraith pebble]

what docker images are you guys using?

[proud dagger]

We run majority windows servers due to a contract as a partner with another studio, would be something to look into tho

[proud dagger]

You run it and steamcmd should launch and download

[rain sun]

Nothing happens :((

[lofty latch]

I should really stop stalling here and make this damn video >_<

[knotty timber]

Success! App '1690800' already up to date, however getting "version not compatible" after the latest update?

[proud dagger]

You don’t have steamcmd installed or in the right folder then

[rain sun]

I already installed the update before

it might be that

but i just want the tool

and it does not appear anywhere

[proud dagger]

What tool?

Steamcmd?

[rain sun]

server tool

[full vector]

If you never ran a dedicated server before, then starting your experience with a very experimental server with first-draft documentation is probably not going to make you super happy 😄

[steady hollow]

the server tool isnt available yet because of issues with steam

[rain sun]

ohhhhhhhhhh

[steady hollow]

what they said ^

[rain sun]

I mean I ran a mc server

hope that counts

[proud dagger]

Precisely why us vendors exist 😛

[foggy agate]

not really. Mincraft is super easy in its vanilla state

[rain sun]

Damn so what is this about?

[steady hollow]

minecraft is literally java -jar Minecraft.jar lol

[steady hollow]

steam done dumb ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rain sun]

so no server

alr

[proud dagger]

Servers exist bud

[rain sun]

Im confusion

[proud dagger]

Not sure what the confusion is

[steady hollow]

You just need to use steamcmd

[proud dagger]

If you’re running locally run it via command line

[rain sun]

ohhhhh

damn it

[steady hollow]

oh ffs

[foggy agate]

but would you say its more about making its easy for the people or making it lazy? With the setup on its own I don't had any problems just following whats in the wiki.

[smoky pollen]

how do you connect to your server? for a different pc? on my server a command prompt for satisfactory didnt pop up.

[proud dagger]

We exist to cater to those who either 1 don’t care to learn or 2 don’t have the infrastructure

[steady hollow]

@mystic inlet any chance we can have https:// developer [dot] valvesoftware [dot] com whitelisted for the steamcmd usage instructions?

[lofty latch]

plus the management tools for game servers add functionality that'd be even more work to sort out

[proud dagger]

Read the documentation. You need to create a bat script to run your server

[smoky pollen]

kk

[river sand]

I have managed to get it to work so must be easy 🙂

[steady hollow]

not necessarily

also 1990's called they want their bat files back :P

[proud dagger]

My statement was meant to be the easiest route for the bloke

[worn heath]

8GB of memory usage while loaded save smh

[steady hollow]

makes sense

[foggy agate]

from my experience with gameserver hosters, I mostly justed the filebrowser and actually never used their version of that. But I would be happy to let my mind be changed. If you want you could me with a link via dm :)

[worn heath]

but connecting to server is long af

[lofty latch]

in a screenshot 😉

that's my schedule for my satisfactory server

[steady hollow]

drop your host's URL like yesterday

[lofty latch]

I'm not a host, but yeee

[steady hollow]

brb reactivating my revolut

smashes card on table I NEED THAT

[leaden grotto]

Does anyone have an open server yet?

[proud dagger]

One day I’ll have a channel I can advertise my business in xD

[lofty latch]

I do - instaban.com is live and on the latest version

[leaden grotto]

I want to see the chaos

[proud dagger]

Yea

[worn heath]

can someone say if connecting to 135.148.69.23 is long? maybe because its just big save

[leaden grotto]

Thx will have a look ltr

[tacit finch]

o_O

never ever share a IP

[proud dagger]

Don’t worry I’m a professional

[tacit finch]

xD

[proud dagger]

XD

[lofty latch]

sharing an IP is no different from sharing a domain 🤷‍♂️

[leaden grotto]

Sharing IPs aren't that bad

[worn heath]

if someone shares home ip then go nuts

[leaden grotto]

You can't do much with a global ip

[worn heath]

even if you have domain its still ip

[proud dagger]

I mean if you go on summits stream and post your IP the DDOS ensues sooooo

[leaden grotto]

If all ur devices have basic firewall nothing rly bad happens

[tacit finch]

satisfactory.illmaren.de

Go wild with my IP 😄

Just saying that its bad to share homeIPs ^^

[hidden rock]

Time to do a Distributed Delivery Of Satisfactory

[leaden grotto]

Well tbh you can just set an IP and try and connect, you can find an IP rly quickly and then just ddos that

[leaden grotto]

Yes

[river sand]

Would it be a good idea to have the drone station names showing in here also do you think?

[rain sun]

You know when they said dedicated servers

[foggy agate]

I want to throw my head in the ring too:

satisfactory.postrausch.tech

[proud dagger]

Yea none of my IPs I share are home, I have all mine in data centers with proper corero smartwalls :3

[rain sun]

I thought it was their server

[leaden grotto]

@proud dagger @lofty latch how much activity have u guys been getting

[lofty latch]

I had 11 people on my server at one point xD

[slender idol]

I've got a guy going for 20 people

[proud dagger]

I’ve not got much, no where to advertise really

[slender idol]

I wish him luck

[proud dagger]

Arc

My boy!!!

[slender idol]

Beat you to it 😉

[lofty latch]

I had a fair number because I was among the first to get the server working here xD

[proud dagger]

I didn’t know this place existed until yesterday xD

I mean I have the game and have been waiting for dedis to come

One of my partners was like yo it’s finally here xD

But like I don’t want to advert here all scummy like

Throwing my name around and stuff it just doesn’t feel proper

Now a shameless promotions channel I’m all for it 🙂

[leaden grotto]

Reddit might be better

[foggy agate]

we could use the Mod Discord for that, if they will allow us. :)

[proud dagger]

4chan tho

[leaden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-mad-dead-serious-funny-face-gif-15086435

[proud dagger]

Lololol

[steady hollow]

it would probably be a good idea to have a host showcase somewhere

[proud dagger]

Yea as great as the idea is, it would be some work for them to weed out the people who aren’t really good providers and just want money and those who care and offer superb services like @slender idol

[steady hollow]

anyways time to make factorygameinstaller.exe brb

[steady hollow]

I mean usually just checking if they're using a voided WHMCS is enough

[proud dagger]

LUL!!!

[slender idol]

or the ones who cheap out and use the branded version, thats a doozy.

[proud dagger]

Trying to remember if I removed branding 🤔

[lofty latch]

@rose valley btw does the game client respect the +connect ip:port command line flag?

because then we can do steam://connect/526870/1.2.3.4/15777 for example

[proud dagger]

That’s a rabbit hole my friend

[steady hollow]

does epic have a corresponding feature

[lofty latch]

it works really well for Valheim - and I do not believe it does

[proud dagger]

Epic

[steady hollow]

cause if not we're getting feeaatureee disparityyyyyyyy

[lofty latch]

it's just a command line flag, the fact that epic doesn't use it doesn't matter too much

[proud dagger]

I’m gonna be the guy throwing key words into every sentence so the bot reacts and I feel special

[steady hollow]

good god please dont

[proud dagger]

Don’t steam over

Eyyyyyy 😛

[rose valley]

It does not. I'll check it out.

[proud dagger]

Epic response

[lofty latch]

👍

[rain sun]

[2021.10.28-10.38.39:487][ 1]LogOnline: Warning: OSS: EOSSDK-LogEOSP2P: NAT Detection failed, unable to resolve host
[2021.10.28-10.38.40:022][ 17]LogOnline: Warning: OSS: EOSSDK-LogEOSAnalytics: EOS SDK Analytics disabled for route [1].

hopefully my ip address was included

[river sand]

@rain sun have you set the ports up?

[rain sun]

yeah so

what is that

hold up imma check wiki dont bother

[steady hollow]

In computer networking, port forwarding or port mapping is an application of network address translation (NAT) that redirects a communication request from one address and port number combination to another while the packets are traversing a network gateway, such as a router or firewall. This technique is most commonly used to make services on a host residing on a protected or masqueraded (internal) network available to hosts on the opposite side of the gateway (external network), by remapping the destination IP address and port number of the communication to an internal host.

dooo you have docker installed?

[proud dagger]

This guy! What a chap

[lofty latch]

@rose valley point of note - the steam://connect/ format expects the game to respond to steam query on that port number - if you want to invoke it directly without requiring the server to speak steam it's steam://run/526870//+connect%20HOSTNAME

[trail lichen]

Maybe Firewall?

[lofty latch]

but regardless having the client respect +connect host:port is handy xD

[steady hollow]

they didnt port forward

[rain sun]

Port forwarding is that sketchy thing that my parents dont let me do?

YH

I think

[steady hollow]

yeah, maybe try just using sessions

or visit a paid host

[trail lichen]

"sketchy" xD

[rain sun]

I use hamachi

[proud dagger]

cough

XD

[rain sun]

minecrafyt

[trail lichen]

if you want to stay local you don't need to do port forwarding... but to let a friend play with you I think you need it.

[rain sun]

ALR

[polar quartz]

Correct

[rain sun]

then hamachi is gonna work

thanks

[polar quartz]

Well, you will need to open the ports on your router

[rain sun]

not with hamachi

It emulates a local network

[polar quartz]

However, you cannot forward them to another port as mentioned in the wiki

(IE: do not forward port 7777 as port 7778 on your router).

Just open the port on your routers firewall

[rain sun]

oh

[polar quartz]

If Hamachi will work, is a big ? for me. Everything is still highly experimental, so I would say, just try it out and see what it gives

[proud dagger]

I see no reason hamachi wouldn’t work

[polar quartz]

If it works like a VPN client it should work

However, why wouldn't you then just open the ports on your Router 🤷

[rain sun]

Idk my parents say imma get hacked

the thing is

ive been hacked before

[smoky pollen]

why cant it be open?

[rain sun]

and I earned 50 dollars

that the hackers left behind

[proud dagger]

It’s something where ISPs sometimes won’t allow you to forward those ports as well as people not understanding things as well, that’s the main reason the program exists

[steady hollow]

what the hell is nssm

[proud dagger]

Nonsucking service manager

[polar quartz]

;-; ngl, I would just contact the ISP then

[steady hollow]

just use windows service manager

[polar quartz]

But if you really would like to use a 3th party, go for it

[smoky pollen]

how?

[rain sun]

no admin access?

[proud dagger]

I don’t disagree xD

[lofty latch]

win+r services.msc

[steady hollow]

15777 15000 & 7777 are quite nonstandard ports so I see no reason for an ISP to block them unless 2ble or 3ple nat

[smoky pollen]

lemme try

[lofty latch]

7777 is fairly common tho - every game under the sun seems to use it xD

[proud dagger]

Here in America it’s more common place for ISPs to deny it because they don’t want people hosting things from home without a “business” connection. It’s hit or miss with providers

[polar quartz]

I wish you luck hosting a lot of servers with one IPv4

[leaden grotto]

Ye nssm requires an administrator terminal

[rain sun]

nsssm

[smoky pollen]

that was the problem!

[lofty latch]

You can put them all on different ports quite happily

[rain sun]

Im a god

[leaden grotto]

Sure...

[proud dagger]

Lol I’m golden I have data center connections across the US xD

[polar quartz]

Datacenters still are the best way to go indeed :P

[rain sun]

Anyone in my local network wanna join my god server

[odd quiver]

just a quick question: i should be able to get the dedi server without owning satisfactory on steam right? got tools enabled and its not on the list

[leaden grotto]

No

[lofty latch]

see the wiki

[leaden grotto]

Steam tool is down, you have to use the command line

[smoky pollen]

ok but how do i conect to my server with another pc?

[rain sun]

you missed the ♥️

[lofty latch]

you need the experimental release

[smoky pollen]

im in it put what adress? ip?

[trail lichen]

maybe I'm thinking it to easy, but why not using NordVPN or something alike making your PC an VPN client? - Should solve the port forwarding problem with your parents router.

[leaden grotto]

If it's on ur pc, then IP address should be localhost

[smoky pollen]

its not

[leaden grotto]

Not on ur pc?

[smoky pollen]

yes

(anydesk)

[proud dagger]

Port forwarding over a vpn is not that easy and most times not supported

[leaden grotto]

Anydesk?

[proud dagger]

He’s remoted into another computer using any desk

[leaden grotto]

Wut

[smoky pollen]

but how do i connect?

[proud dagger]

Like teamviewer

[leaden grotto]

On a different network or the same? @smoky pollen

[smoky pollen]

same

[trail lichen]

put the LAN IP of the server into your game - should work

[leaden grotto]

Then u should use the local IP of the device ur remoting into

Can be found in the network setting adapter info iirc

[trail lichen]

cmd >> ipconfig

[leaden grotto]

Most like 192.168.1.something

[rain sun]

Yo you guys are getting paid for helping)

?

[lofty latch]

Sorta!

[proud dagger]

No xD

I mean if someone rents from me then yea

[rain sun]

no reward?

[trail lichen]

no, but I wouldn't say no if someone would like to pay for it. xD

[steady hollow]

nope

I mean, @css hire me us but none so far

[trail lichen]

You can pay with BTC, BHD or Signa.
Or via paypal.

XD

[leaden grotto]

Nah, it's just for fun ig

And it's interesting to see what problems people run into

[rain sun]

Thats awesome, thank you for your service

[steady hollow]

unlike minrok I also accept human forms of payment such as stripe paypal & sofort /s

[leaden grotto]

"human forms of payment" lol

[trail lichen]

We learn a lot here when helping others cause often problems are not idenitcal, but somehow alike.

[proud dagger]

I only take payment in trident gum

[rain sun]

I can pay in chinese social credit

[trail lichen]

Oh... and I also take Ficsit tickes as payment 😄

[steady hollow]

I'll pay you in redirections to #off-topic-general

[rain sun]

alr see ya

[proud dagger]

I’ll take ‘12 please

[trail lichen]

Weird idea: Ficsit blockchain - there is no mining, there is only Awesome Sinks. XD

[proud dagger]

What if we’re all being used as miners

And we’re volunteering for it

🤔

[trail lichen]

lol

[proud dagger]

anyone have the modding discord?

[hushed gate]

Ask for mods over at the [official modding discord](#welcome message). - <3 @tame solar

Oct 28, 2021, 11:04 AM

[proud dagger]

thanks

🙂

[trail lichen]

Back to topic:
I watched something interesting while running a Testserver on "potato-hardware".

The Server used below 1GB of RAM (4GB installed) and was running just fine. But mobs like hogs and small spitters where weird with behaviour, mostly ignoring players - was there with a friend... we stood infront of them - but not being attacked.

I think running items on a belt is just eating some RAM, but the MOBs need some CPU power for their AI to work as intended?

[proud dagger]

i tried loading on a motorla 6800, still waiting for it to load 😉

[tame solar]

has the standard multiplayer experience been improved too? like, can clients work trains now? (as everyone is client on dedis)

[proud dagger]

in all seriousness that is an interesting test, i imagine the IPC just isnt there if its as bad of a PC as you say

ondar, youre responsible for the wiki?

[tame solar]

I contribute a lot to it, yeah

[proud dagger]

this here

is the it cant be changed mostly for those port forwarding routers?

cause it is fully configurable via cmd arguement

[rose valley]

Can't be redirected != Can't be changed

[dusk flicker]

Haha

[rose valley]

It's expanded upon in the preceding paragraph. Basically, those ports need to be the same along the whole net route.

[tame solar]

the article has been edited heavily by people who have networking or dedis knowledge (which is awesome) but are likely new to wiki editing, so sorry if something is unclear there

[proud dagger]

But the beacon by default does not redirect or change itself if already in use, it just causes issues

[rose valley]

That's the ServerQueryPort. Beacon should automatically increment if default is already in use.

[proud dagger]

Yea sorry if i came off as complaining, just attempting to contribute is all 🙂

[proud dagger]

but it doesnt

[finite canopy]

Just wondering how do you get the dedicated server tools?

because it doesn't show up in my steam library

[tame solar]

nonono, it's a genuine question, no problem 😄

[rose valley]

Have some logs? If it doesn't then it's a bug that we need to address.

[proud dagger]

ummmmmmmm i may have some if not i can recreate the issue

my auto deployment takes care of the issue for me so ill have to re-break it