dedicated-servers

[merry bolt]

i am not familiar with the Linux setup, but someone earlier mentioned needing to install some Steam thing (steam sdk or something, i dont remember)

[fluid turret]

yes you need to update the tool

[jaunty gyro]

@merry bolt looks like that was it. Its updating now. it updated to the default folder which contradicts the instructions. I'll try now and let you know

[thorny magnet]

Oh the tool? I installed earlier with steamCMD - should I just re-run those command lines?

[fluid turret]

yes

[thorny magnet]

awesome - thank you

[merry bolt]

steamcmd has a default location it will use if you don't specify a force_install_dir. You have to specify that every time you run it else it will go back to the default. it doesn't know to check some other location without being told explicitly where

[jaunty gyro]

@merry bolt That was it, all good now

Thanks for the help

[hushed lance]

Ive restarted Steam 3 times and the server isn't popping up under tools. What am i missing?

[balmy glacier]

have to use steamcmd

[merry bolt]

That isn't working for whatever reason. Only option for now is using SteamCmd

[hushed lance]

oh, great!

[cursive zenith]

Lots of server crashes in here, does the server have a place to get the logs? trying to see what is causing the crash

[umbral olive]

Any help would be appreciated, I have the SteamCMD setup, with update/startup.bat file complete (Dir), Updated and ports are forwarded, my other servers for other games are running fine, and as does the Satisfactory dedicated, but after authenticating, setting pws, and trying to create the game I get this error. Thx again

[merry bolt]

this means your beacon port is not reachable

[umbral olive]

tried through Epic and Steam login if means anything

oh beacon port, ok will double check port 15000, tyvm!

[balmy glacier]

UDP not TCP

[merry bolt]

Yes all ports are UDP

[umbral olive]

Checking now, tyvm Cystal and elmexy, will be back shortly ❤️

[trim flicker]

[2021.10.27-00.47.05:196][827]LogGame: Warning: Character with zero mesh bodies tried to activate ragdolling... should check to not allow this. Or just keep this cehck, stopp logging and exit out early.
Two typos in a single sentence xD

[quick mist]

is 'no status lights' a server thing or an Update5 thing?

[subtle sundial]

keep the kek

[floral charm]

Anyone else experiencing bugs around deconstruction? I seem to get "ghost" meshes after I deconstruct anything and then I get a crash on both sides

[merry bolt]

this has been mentioned here by multiple people and there are a couple threads on the questions site about it

[sick arch]

I'm having an issue where the game says my server appears to be offline. I tried connecting using localhost and that worked for me but my friends can't actually connect using my IP. Is there something I'm missing?

[floral charm]

Oh, I wasn't aware of the questions site, sorry

[spiral root]

Well it's happened LinuxGSM has added Satisfactory already

[merry bolt]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[floral charm]

thanks Crystal!

[balmy glacier]

ya i've been waiting

[spiral root]

TBH I may save my world then move over tomorrow as I do like LinuxGSM for a lot of their features like auto update checking etc.

[merry bolt]

i think if you deconstruct things one at a time you might be able to avoid crashing the server

[frosty gale]

yo anyone have a server i could join?

[spiral root]

This it's only when deconstructing multiple thjnfs with another player in view distance

[balmy glacier]

If you can connect to it locally but friends cant externally check ports forwarding
15777 UDP
15000 UDP
7777 UDP
Also windows firewall

[fluid turret]

instaban.com legit thats the IP/domain

[floral charm]

Well I'm alone on my server so far, but otherwise I have been doing multi-decons

[frosty gale]

ok

[spiral root]

Multi-decons without issues?

Think it works fine until it needs to communicate all the changes tiles to the other players and that is where crash seems to happen.

[trim flicker]

Was able to get docker image made and running with configuration files saved outside, empty server shows no load on server, will need to check with bigger save file

[spiral root]

Nice domain...

[spiral root]

Been seeing 6% total server load. 24% single core maximum with 2 players.

[floral charm]

I think single decons are fine, but multis cause the crash. I just wanted to point out that I'm on a dedicated server, but no other players are, so the "Other players in the draw distance" aspect doesn't seem to apply here.

I'll log it in the questions site, though

[trim flicker]

true test will be with how many cores it can utilize, probably not many and it'll largely depend on single core max performance =\

[merry bolt]

UE4 always depends on single core speed

it makes several threads, but always one main one that does like 90% or more of the work

[trim flicker]

I wonder how far I'll be able to push it with 3GHz boost

[merry bolt]

they have done a lot of work over the lifetime of the game to reduce the overall cpu cost so you may not see any issues until the base gets very large and uses a very large amount of belts

belts seem to always be the most expensive thing even after they optimized them (they are better than they used to be)

[trim flicker]

I wonder if game save compression could be turned off to save on saving time

[flat forum]

Just found a dedicated server crash, when you mass deconstruct on a dedicated server the orange hologram persists breifly, if you then try to deconstruct that hologram it will hard crash the server

[merry bolt]

yes this has been reported. for now stick to deconstructing one at a time until they fix it

like the old days

[flat forum]

gotcha, didn't know if it was reported yet

is there a compiled list of reports somewhere?

so I know what to avoid and where to check so I don't dupe report

[merry bolt]

Reports are here, mixed in with suggestions and everything else. https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[flat forum]

cheers mate

[arctic badge]

Just getting to check out the Update 5 video and all that jazz, can someone confirm my understanding on the port forwarding side really quick?

Base ports without overrides are query: 15777, beacon: 15000, game: 7777
Query can be redirected to any port desired, beacon can only be overridden to 3333, game can only be overridden to 4444
Is this correct? Hoping to be able to set a server up as soon as I can without having to wait for more flushed out support as I believe I already have another server running through 7777

[balmy glacier]

query: 15777, beacon: 15000, game: 7777 can be set to whatever you want
4444 and 3333 where examples
There is a bug with the Linux in which you cant change one.

[lime elm]

Hey guys, has anyone got this working via AMP I seem to be "stuck"

[balmy glacier]

Try their discord

[lime elm]

I am

[arctic badge]

Had to ask 'cause the wiki didn't give that impression. Thanks for the info

[merry bolt]

you cannot redirect some of the ports, but you can change any of them.

the wording on the wiki is not very clear about that distinction

[trim flicker]

Can server run multiple parallel sessions?

[balmy glacier]

GamePort you cant change in linux atm. its a linux bug

[merry bolt]

changing it on Windows works fine though

[balmy glacier]

Its a linux bug

[modest badge]

if the dedicated server is not showing up in steam library what should i do?

[vital pivot]

might be the wrong place for this, if so let me know, but I have tried restarting steam and my PC but the server download is not there. Yes I have tools checked

[merry bolt]

The client talks to the query port and asks what the other two ports are. so the query port can be redirected, but the other two cannot because the client will talk to the ports the server tells it, which will be the ports the server is listening on. That is only an issue for redirecting ports though. the publicly exposed port has to be the same as the internal port the server is configured to use.

[balmy glacier]

At the moment its not showing up in tools.
will have to use steamcmd to get

[modest badge]

is there a link or guide to show how to get it?

[balmy glacier]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[modest badge]

thanks

[lime elm]

Just in case someone knows.. Im stuck at this point here on AMP:

[merry bolt]

stuck how? i dont see any issue there

[steel osprey]

its 3am Here in Europe. So wait some hours ;)

[echo vessel]

i cant figure out how to get that far

[merry bolt]

that log output indicates that the server started and should be running. if you are not able to connect to the server, then there is probably some network issue. i dont know anything about AMP or what it does, but the server itself looks to be working

[sharp fulcrum]

Any recommended specs posted for the servers? Kinda curious to know how powerful of a server I'd need to host

[hushed lance]

If anyone is looking to join a Server. I've got mine up with my save. DM for details.

[timber compass]

Anybody else having trouble even finding it? Doesn't show in my library and SteamCMD doesnt take the command line. am noob at steamCMD tho so maybe i did something wrong

[balmy glacier]

4 vcpu
6-8 GB Ram

[merry bolt]

i dont think there is anything official yet, but people speculate you can get away with 8gb ram if you are running the system lean enough as the server only seems to use about 5gb. however, that might increase for large builds in the game, and i dont think anyone has measured how much it increases.

[strange zenith]

When did this channel start existing

?

[flat forum]

today

[vital pivot]

@balmy glacier ty, got it downloading now

[balmy glacier]

how are you launching steamcmd ?

[merry bolt]

since about an hour after update 5 released

[timber compass]

double clicking on steamCMD.exe in its folder :S

[balmy glacier]

Open a Command Prompt and start SteamCMD.

cd C:\steamcmd
steamcmd

[obtuse cargo]

i wish i had a secondary windows system. I run a second linux server for a number of thing but only have my primary system running windows. I don't want to run the server on the same machine i have for gaming

[merry bolt]

steamcmd is a command line utility. double clicking it is not really the way to use it

[balmy glacier]

Their is a linux option

[merry bolt]

not sure i followed that, but there is a linux version of the game server if that helps

[short blade]

Question for the moderators/CoffeeStainers. Do you think it would be helpful on the QA site if there was a new category people could select for options called "dedicated servers"? That way, questions about the dedicated servers themselves can be separated from the main "multiplayer" category tag?
I wasn't sure if I should post a question about the QA site itself here, or on the Q&A site.

[obtuse cargo]

ok, didn't look into it, they regularly say the focus is windows and i assumed any linux support would be later

[merry bolt]

that is still the case for the game itself, but the dedicated server can run on either

[balmy glacier]

launched at the same time this time 🙂

[timber compass]

okay that did a thing, how much of the command line should I be pasting at that point? pasting the whole thing as is on the wiki doesnt get me anything

and thank you btw for the help

[lime elm]

what port do I join on?

there are 4 ports listed for the server

[merry bolt]

the query port

[lime elm]

kk

[merry bolt]

all of the ports need to be reachable though

[timber compass]

@balmy glacier nvm sorry i think i got it XD

[balmy glacier]

take the steamcmd out and the plus before login
login anonymous +force_install_dir SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 +quit
make sure you set the force_install_dir to a path you want
+force_install_dir C:\SatisfactoryDedicatedServer

[timber compass]

but it says failed to install

ohhh

[merry bolt]

the path has to be valid on your system

and a full path, not just a folder name

[timber compass]

lol such a dedi server newb. thanks for these tips guys

[quick mist]

Is there a console command to force an immediate save?

[merry bolt]

i tried to find one and could not find anything. you can save from the game menu though

[trim flicker]

Placing server configuration files at FactoryGame/Saved/Config/ makes it awkward to access in docker, to expose it to host from docker container need to make own sh file to run before server to copy files from container to host (if it doesn't exist), then redirect the folder from container to mapped host

[quick mist]

I figured that made a local save, I'll try that. Thanks.

[merry bolt]

it will save it on the server

[quick mist]

rad

[vital pivot]

ok so, my server is up and running but I don't see any port config or anything on the wiki. How do I do the initial config?

[merry bolt]

port config is done via command line params (listed in the table at the top of the wiki page). rest of the config is done mainly from in game

there are not many config options available yet

the first person who connects to the server will be the server owner and can configure passwords and such from in game

[vital pivot]

oh I see I can't type in the server cmd lines like I can with Minecraft. I presume its because its just an active log

so I do these edits from in game then? Just connect with my IP:4444?

[merry bolt]

yeah there is a server console in the game client where you can type commands, but aside from the quit command to stop the server, not much else is known yet about available console commands. You can mostly use the same commands that you can use in the client, but many are not meaningful or dont work on the server

you will be prompted to set a server name and admin password when you first connect. you can also set a user password and a couple other options that exist so far

[echo vessel]

Why did they make it so annoying 2 set up.

[merry bolt]

seems about the same as every game server i run. in fact, almost exactly the same as many game servers

[echo vessel]

Me nvr learned 2 code.

[obsidian ferry]

Has anyone had luck installing the dedicated server with Amp?

[quick mist]

Honestly the only odd thing is the whole "first person to connect owns the server" thing

[merry bolt]

Basically two bat files, one to install/update the server and another to run the server. The contents of the start bat file changes a bit from game to game, but the install one is basically the same for every dedicated server that downloads from Steam. only the app id changes.

[quick mist]

well, (hopefully) the install location should change too, but yes.

[gusty zealot]

or go for docker

[merry bolt]

well my bat file uses its own directory so i just drop it where i want the server to go then run it

[echo vessel]

I got it now but it's fkn annoying. Side note anyone use a ttl device or know of 1 with nat open?

Capabilities

[cinder wind]

Literally took 5 minutes to install on my Ubuntu server

[gusty zealot]

hm, i'm gertting alot of logs similar to:

[2021.10.27-01.56.17:918][  0]LogTextLocalizationResource: LocRes '../../../Engine/Content/Localization/Engine/en-US-POSIX/Engine.locres' could not be opened for reading!
[2021.10.27-01.56.17:918][  0]LogTextLocalizationResource: LocRes '../../../Engine/Plugins/Online/OnlineFramework/Content/Localization/OnlineFramework/en-US-POSIX/OnlineFramework.locres' could not be opened for reading!
[2021.10.27-01.56.17:918][  0]LogTextLocalizationResource: LocRes '../../../Engine/Plugins/Online/OnlineSubsystem/Content/Localization/OnlineSubsystem/en-US-POSIX/OnlineSubsystem.locres' could not be opened for reading!
[2021.10.27-01.56.17:918][  0]LogTextLocalizationResource: LocRes '../../../Engine/Plugins/Online/OnlineSubsystemUtils/Content/Localization/OnlineSubsystemUtils/en-US-POSIX/OnlineSubsystemUtils.locres' could not be opened for reading!
[2021.10.27-01.56.17:918][  0]LogTextLocalizationResource: LocRes '../../../Engine/Plugins/Online/OnlineSubsystemSteam/Content/Localization/OnlineSubsystemSteam/en-US-POSIX/OnlineSubsystemSteam.locres' could not be opened for reading!

anyone got similar case?

--- edit
those files doesn't exist

[merry bolt]

i have steamcmd added to my system path so i can run it from anywhere. then i drop this bat file in whatever folder i want to have a Satisfactory server and run it. it installs the server right there. i can run it again to update the server after a patch goes out.

@echo off
set root=%~dp0
if %root:~-1%==\ set root=%root:~0,-1%
steamcmd.exe +login anonymous +force_install_dir "%root%" +app_update 1690800 +quit
pause

i have been carrying this file from place to place for years using it for every Steam-distributed dedicated game server. Just change the app id for each game. The pause at the end is just so i can double click run the script and see the output without the window closing immediately.

[forest anchor]

so im un able to load my save into dedicated server in my linux box

[balmy glacier]

You follow the steps in the wiki?

[quick mist]

I just have this template that I update for Steam servers:

#!/bin/bash
# Service info:
#  Query Port:    15777/udp
#  Beacon Port    15000/udp
#  Game Port       7777/udp
steamcmd  +login anonymous +force_install_dir ~/Satisfactory +app_update 1690800 validate +quit

[forest anchor]

na im doing things a bit custom then normal its still using steamcmd tho

[quick mist]

update the app ID and install path, make notes of what ports I need to open for later reference, and Bob is my metaphorical father's brother

[balmy glacier]

you copied the save over to
~.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames/server

[merry bolt]

My script for actually running the server runs a wrapper program around it that starts it, waits for it to exit, then starts it again (indefinitely until i pause or stop it). that allows for the server to auto restart if it crashes or something

[forest anchor]

i did that and it would not load it would just crash

[quick mist]

same but systemd

[balmy glacier]

you used the Session Name as the save?

[forest anchor]

oh is that how it works now ?

[balmy glacier]

yes

[vital pivot]

Alrighty last question: so server is up and running and I am making a game on it now, but I can only connect with a standard internal IP -> 192.168.X.X, how do I get that set to my external for my mates to see?

[forest anchor]

ok i well try that

[balmy glacier]

on the wiki it has step by step instructions
https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Loading_Save_File
with photos

[merry bolt]

Best way i know to import a save for now is to start a new game on the server with an identical session name, then stop the server and swap out the save file for the one you want, then start the server back up

[fervent tusk]

@vital pivot You will need to open firewall ports through your router/switch

[balmy glacier]

I have changed the session after the fact and got it to load.

[forest anchor]

can it be like name_autosave_1 ??? or no or just the name ?

[balmy glacier]

just name

[forest anchor]

ok

[merry bolt]

the session name is actually stored inside the save file. the file name only needs to start with the session name. whatever comes after that doesnt matter as far as i know

[balmy glacier]

test123_autosave_1 would be session name test123

[vital pivot]

@fervent tusk I opened all ports but listed on the wiki but it still wasn't visible to my external ip

as tcp/udp

[merry bolt]

you can name a save file something completely different from its session name, so only looking at the filename is not always enough to figure out the session name. it should be pretty clear though with autosaves as they always start with the session name

[vital pivot]

and of course after I ask it works now

all is good

[merry bolt]

you only need udp for all of the ports

[vital pivot]

what is the stop cmd

I tried stop and qqq

[merry bolt]

quit

i think exit and quit both work actually

[vital pivot]

I suppose that is equally as logical

[bold atlas]

sorry if this has been asked before, but I can't seem to find the config files

Ubuntu 20.04

[balmy glacier]

there are none. all done in game

[bold atlas]

interesting, it says on the wiki there should be files

[merry bolt]

for me the config files did not show up until i issued some console command that modifies a config. then it dumped all of them out right where i expected them (the location the wiki mentions)

[bold atlas]

what command did you use?

@merry bolt

[merry bolt]

i happened to do FG.NetworkQuality 2

but any command like that which changes a config variable would work i think

[bold atlas]

does that set it to ultra? I forget what the numbers correspond to

[merry bolt]

2 is high

3 is ultra

it defaults to medium (1)

i have no idea if it even does anything on a dedicated server as there are more precise bandwidth configurations available in game.ini and engine.ini

i have no idea which of the three ways to configure bandwidth actually works

i just know that made the server dump out all the config files

[bold atlas]

lol i guess trial and error

Yeah that worked for me too!

[wraith bridge]

Hello, to login to a server do you need to own the game on egs?

[faint wagon]

should be able to use epic or steam

[merry bolt]

you can own it on egs or steam, dont need both

[faint wagon]

but yes, you need to own it

[wraith bridge]

I own it own steam, but when I go to connect to my epic account it says not logged in to Epic

[merry bolt]

oh i dont know anything about any of that. i own it on egs and it just works. i know others who have it on steam are able to login but i have no idea if they had to do anything special

[bold atlas]

I think its a bug right now

Also, is there any settings worth changing crystal?

in any of the configs

[wraith bridge]

When I go to create an online session it says "Failed to create an online session. Press CONFIRM to create an OFFLINE SESSION. You'll need to rehost the same game session from the main menu for your friends to be able to join you.

[faint wagon]

I tried to delete my saves from the server directory...and the files are gone, but I can still load the save 😲

[merry bolt]

most of the ones i tried didnt seem to work. MaxPlayers so far is the only useful one i know about

[merry bolt]

that sounds entirely unrelated to dedicated servers as that is not how you would join a dedicated server. that is how you would host a game directly

[wraith bridge]

I'm using it as a troubleshooting step, I'm trying to host my own server through AMP and people are reporting they're able to create servers using it, so I figure it might be a steam vs egs related issue.

My apologies for the confusion

[faint wagon]

anyone know the steamcmd uninstall command to remove the dedicated server?

[sleek axle]

can someone help here? the wiki barely addresses this and its not helpful

[quick mist]

it's not a steamcmd command. if you installed the server at /path/to/SF_Server, the command would be rm -fr /path/to/SF_Server.

[quick mist]

that can be ignored.

[sleek axle]

localhost works but ip doesnt

[quick mist]

define 'works'

[sleek axle]

i can connect to the server with just localhost

[merry bolt]

should be

steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir <whatever> app_uninstall 1690800 +quit

edit: fixed typos

[sleek axle]

that didnt work for me. i needed a workaround

[faint wagon]

@merry bolt that's the install, i want the uninstall 🙂

oh

you're right

i'm dumb

[bold atlas]

that is the uninstall..

[sleek axle]

its cd server location
FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended

[slim spoke]

or just delete the folder

[sleek axle]

i just realized my ports arent actually open

[quick mist]

that could cause connection issues, yes.

[sleek axle]

but i opened them :/

i guess its taking time

[slim spoke]

lol lol

[merry bolt]

it is surprisingly difficult to test if a port is open in isolation since there needs to be an application listening on that port which will respond to your query.

[quick mist]

well the game server would be that application, and you can use nc or tcping to test.

[merry bolt]

only if the server responds to those things

which it likely doesnt

[sleek axle]

hmmmm

[quick mist]

in case anyone else would find it helpful, my UFW configuration to open the ports on a UFW firewall:

[Satisfactory]
title=Satisfactory
description=An extremely satisfying experience
ports=5777/udp|15000/udp|7777/udp

[long sable]

I mean I found out the reason why I couldn't connect to my server earlier is because the DDOS mitigation system the host I'm using has blocks UDP by default unless it's configured in the panel.

[dense kelp]

The dedicated server wiki was spot on, good job there. Easy peasy to get my save loaded and server started

[long sable]

Which I didn't realize, because most of my services on there were using TCP before

[quick mist]

yeah most game servers prefer UDP because its lack of statefulness helps with lowering game latency

[merry bolt]

so as long as an attacker uses udp you are safe but if they switch to tcp you will get pwnd?

[quick mist]

it sort of makes sense, as it's easier to do a UDP attack as you don't have to faff about with crafting a broken TCP stack that lacks all the "wait for the other side to actually respond" overhead a proper stack has

[plucky salmon]

How do I install the Dedicated server through Steam, not steamcmd. aka wiki link?

[merry bolt]

that was true up until the first ddos attack program was written and shared which handled that for you. not true now

[quick mist]

yeah, that's how libraries work all right

hence 'sort of makes sense'

[sleek axle]

i got it working. i put in 129 instead of 219 for the internal ip on one of the ports

[quick mist]

I just checked.. I only have Satisfactory through Epic, and I do not see the Satisfactory server available on the Steam Library or Store. Hmm.

[slim spoke]

#patch-notes has link to steamcmd install it

[lofty slate]

Is it possible to upload a single player save to the server and play it?

[merry bolt]

known issue. you can currently only download it using steamcmd

[slim spoke]

yes its just a server like any other

[gilded barn]

If you have the game on Epic is it possible to join a hosted server?

[quick mist]

well that answers @plucky salmon 's question then (:

[quick mist]

yes

[gentle bison]

I'm able to connect fine, but my buddy is getting the "this server appears to be offline" message, any ideas? We tried telnet pinging the port from his pc and it seems to be going through, just doesn't make sense why I can connect and he cant

OS: Linux
Host: OVH

[dusty ivy]

Yes. I have it through epic, and installed it on a linux server through SteamCMD, and am currently playing.

[merry bolt]

if you want to install a dedicated server now, you have to use steamcmd. if you wait, they will fix it to be available other ways

[slim spoke]

mp is borked right now with u5 on steam mostly it seems

[gilded barn]

I'm trying to join a hosted server, but it just tells me the server is offline

[quick mist]

open the ports on UDP; not TCP. (Telnet uses TCP.. though I'm not sure what the test was connecting to)

[slim spoke]

session id . dont have a space after last character or mp is broken right now and u have to wait

[dusty ivy]

I'm only playing locally, and haven't tested with multiple players. My guess with the offline message is that you can't see it... ports not forwarded correctly or something.

[gentle bison]

I have both open on UFW

TCP and UDP

[gilded barn]

It's not hosted locally, it's a hosting service

[merry bolt]

if the server shows offline, then either the server's query port is not open, or the person playing the game mistyped the address or port. query port is the first thing a client looks for and assumes the server is offline if it cant talk to it

[merry bolt]

the game only uses udp. i have no idea about whether it has ipv6 support (probably does, but i know at least one recent game that doesnt so cant assume)

[gentle bison]

hmm, I'll try removing the rules and readding them udp only

[merry bolt]

it shouldnt matter if tcp is also open, just unnecessary holes to poke into the network

[gentle bison]

I figured having both open theoretically shouldn't cause any issues, but who knows

[lofty slate]

Added my single player world to C:\Users\Me\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames\server and don't have the option to select it on server manager

Is that the wrong directory for it?

[balmy glacier]

have to change the Session name

to the same as game save

[lofty slate]

Ohh ok

[merry bolt]

the directory appears to be right

[balmy glacier]

test123_autosave_# would be session name test123

[lofty slate]

That worked, thank you!

[dark crown]

Anybody encountering issues with consistent connection timeout failures?

[merry bolt]

if it happens while trying to connect, then most likely one of the ports is not open on the server. you can usually tell which from the error message

[dark crown]

Other players can connect, so likely not that

[short blade]

Is there an easy way to redirect the output from the console to a log file?

[merry bolt]

output already goes to a log file

[forest anchor]

so i tryed that and still no luck cuz if i make a new save it works fine but as soon as i load in my save it crash the server

[plucky salmon]

AMP can automatically install the server.

[balmy glacier]

might be the save idk,
I tryed on my server and worked fine

[forest anchor]

idk when i load into SP it works fine but in the server its not working idk why

[faint wagon]

Hmm, having issues moving save files from one dedicated server to another. I copy all the files from .config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames/server to the other server, boot it up and it still wants me to "create" a game 🤔

[short blade]

Where's the log file stored?

[merry bolt]

On Windows, it is in the server install dir under FactoryGame\Saved\Logs. called FactoryGame.log

[frosty gale]

are there any servers actually up rn?

[slim spoke]

you can run servers now

there arent like public servers

[balmy glacier]

Go to server setting and change session name
might need to create a new game and then change name to load old save

[frosty gale]

dam, will there be any time soon?

[slim spoke]

no

you either run server or pay someone to

or just play the game

[frosty gale]

o ok so it wont be like minecraft

[slim spoke]

no

[faint wagon]

I mean, someone may eventually post their IP so you could join one, but there isn't really a reason to do that

[slim spoke]

they support 4 players for mp and that barely works

and its factory building game so would just be people crying cause someone did something

[frosty gale]

wait so whats the point of it when they could just friend u and join u

[slim spoke]

u can run a server that u dont keep game running

[frosty gale]

o true

thanks

[faint wagon]

@balmy glacier bingo, had to create a game with the same name and then it saw the files

[slim spoke]

its just a dedicated server like any other game

its like people are seeing for first time lol

[coral rose]

if the dedicated server stuff is not showing up, is there a fix for that?

[forest anchor]

idk it works fine in my windows server but linux im having issues for some odd reason

[slim spoke]

use steamcmd to get server

[sullen scroll]

i dont need to own the game on steam right ?

[frosty gale]

unfortunately theres a whole bunch of MP bugs right now

[slim spoke]

if u cant see server ingame then u did it wrong or need ports or mp is broken til they patch it

[coral rose]

yeah unfortunately, we can expect those bugs to be high priority and fixed within the next week or two

[tacit finch]

There is already a Docker container for the dServer 😄

[frosty gale]

yeah im just gonna play on U4 until then hahaha

[tacit finch]

probably far easier than setting it up yourself 😉

[balmy glacier]

have to use the steamcmd atm

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[sullen scroll]

i am dumb...atm ???

[balmy glacier]

at the moment

[sullen scroll]

what do you mean with atm ?

[tacit finch]

right at this moment you need to use steamcmd

Later this can change. Now its the only possibility as its experimental.

[sullen scroll]

so i need to download seperatly the cmd

[tacit finch]

developer (.) valvesoftware (.) com/wiki/SteamCMD

[slim spoke]

grab steamcmd then run it with cmd line from wiki

[tacit finch]

funny how the link to steamcmd is actually not postable here 😄

[proper python]

anyone know what im doing wrong,,installed steamcmd, added batch file, and still

[slim spoke]

its a cmd line app

[soft girder]

its in the computer?

[proper python]

lol

[slim spoke]

goto wiki search dedicated servers... follow instructions

[gilded barn]

or post like this steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 +quit

[tacit finch]

I recommend not trying to install a dedicated server if you dont know how to handle the cmd

[proper python]

yeah, copied and pasted into notepad

cmd has been installed

[tacit finch]

I REALLY recommend that

[slim spoke]

yup if u need help to install then now isnt the time for u

[tacit finch]

😅

there is a difference between cmd and SteamCMD

[quick mist]

eh, there's nothing wrong with needing help

but you do need basic "what is a command line" context. But this is a simple enough server to learn that context

[slim spoke]

if u cant follow the instructions to instlal then u will need alot of hand holding

since servers are buggy and mp is borked

[tacit finch]

Yep absolutely. But you should bring atleast basic understanding of CMD and server configuration.

[gilded barn]

Everyone has to start somewhere

[slim spoke]

so start by learning how to follow the instructions?

[quick mist]

There's no reason to be abrasive about it though

[tacit finch]

Thats why I wrote that I dont recommend using dedicated servers if you dont know the difference between SteamCMD and cmd

[gilded barn]

So explain instead of being a.....

[slim spoke]

@gilded barn go ahead start typing all out and explain it

[soft girder]

some of us dont spend hours playing video games... so a lot of this is new to us

[slim spoke]

noone is stopping you .. u just chose to bother us with it

[quick mist]

take a breath, please.

[slim spoke]

its just true .. i made a simple comment

[soft girder]

last i checked if its bothering you.. you shouldnt be on this discord.. pretty sure the community is here to help each other out

[quick mist]

cmd is the Windows Command Prompt. steamCMD is Valve's tool to interact with Steam via the Command Prompt. It is perhaps unfortunately named.

[slim spoke]

imagine a time when there is freedom ofspeech and u can post a comment

[tacit finch]

Easy and fast way to install Satisfactory? Dont go with SteamCMD at all if you dont know what it is.

Install Docker onto your HomeSystem. Broken down its a VirtualHosting Software

If its installed go to start search for cmd

if you're in a black window you can type:
docker run -d --name=satisfactory-server -h satisfactory-server -v /path/to/config:/config -p 7777:7777/udp -p 15000:15000/udp -p 15777:15777/udp wolveix/satisfactory-server:latest

for example (The Docker Image here is one of many you can look for one yourself) and start the Satisfactory per quasi one click solution.

This whole Process still needs basic understanding of Server and Server Software so be aware that you can break your PC.

[merry bolt]

as you can clearly see, you have that freedom and you posted comments. freedom of speech does not protect you from social rejection when you say things people dont like

[tacit finch]

This is the way to go trough Docker atleastr

[covert yew]

My friend is getting an connection timeout after leaving and trying to join again anyone else have this problem? I can leave and rejoin fine.

[slim spoke]

but doestn give u right to lecture people

[gilded barn]

sanctimonious

[tacit finch]

SteamCMD is easy with basic understanding. The Tutorials are posted bzw. easy to access via google.

[quick mist]

I appreciate the clear directions but I can't not take some mirth in the thesis of "if you don't know SteamCMD, roll with Docker!" (:

[slim spoke]

why dont u just help them instead of causing a drama

[merry bolt]

are you implying that others dont have the freedom to reply to your comments?

[tacit finch]

Guys be nice to each other...it brings nothing if you start going salty.

[quick mist]

if you can rejoin fine, that means the server is happy.. are you on the same LAN as the server or are you both remote?

[knotty timber]

So dedicated server working fine for me connecting locally, but when a friend tries to join he's getting a timeout error after 30 seconds and the server log reports

[2021.10.27-02.57.31:095][ 77]LogNetTraffic: Warning: Notification::ProcessReceivedAcks - Missed Acks: AckedSeq: 3500, OutAckSeq: 3233, FirstMissingSeq: 3234 Count: 11
[2021.10.27-02.58.03:519][422]LogNet: Warning: UNetConnection::Tick: Connection TIMED OUT. Closing connection.. Elapsed: 29.93, Real: 30.06, Good: 30.05, DriverTime: 8770.76, Threshold: 30.00, [UNetConnection] RemoteAddr: 

[covert yew]

we're both remote

[knotty timber]

Save is only 3Mb

[slim spoke]

use same network quality setting on all players/server

[surreal gale]

the client updated recently, but the dedicated server doesn't match. So we're getting client/server version mismatch. anybody else? We've force-updated and VALIDATED the satisfactory dedicated server

[sullen scroll]

and where is it then installed ?...cant find it

[slim spoke]

u downloaded it not me

[forest anchor]

can anyone get there save working in linux ? cuz i cant works in windows tho

[slim spoke]

lol no idea where files are on ur stuff

[merry bolt]

i think there is some delay between when updates make it to the various places. it is possible to get a client update a few minutes before a server update is available or the other way around.

[quick mist]

one of these days I should install SteamCMD on Windows rather than Linux so that I can see if it adds itself to the Path or not..

[covert yew]

They managed to join after spamming connect for a bit.

[surreal gale]

I'll try again in a bit then, thanks

[sullen scroll]

right but i dont know where it's landedn

[knotty timber]

yes works on linux, triple check the directory ~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames/server

[slim spoke]

try going to the download and looking where i tput it

[merry bolt]

it is also possible that you forgot to force_install_dir when you updated the server so it put the files somewhere else

[slim spoke]

or use search i have no clue where u download things

[surreal gale]

nah, didn't forget, don't worry 😉

[forest anchor]

yep

still no work

[slim spoke]

im not running steamcmd cause servers arent work it

[forest anchor]

i can load a fresh one just not my old save

[knotty timber]

Are you entering in the correct session name? Not the filename

[surreal gale]

root@localhost:~# steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 +quit
Redirecting stderr to '/root/.steam/logs/stderr.txt'
[ 0%] Checking for available updates...
[----] Verifying installation...
Steam Console Client (c) Valve Corporation
-- type 'quit' to exit --
Loading Steam API...OK

Connecting anonymously to Steam Public...OK
Waiting for client config...OK
Waiting for user info...OK
Success! App '1690800' already up to date.

[slim spoke]

session id cant have a space after it thats a bad character

[forest anchor]

ya cuz it works in windows just not linux

[cursive zenith]

Does anyone know if you can edit a session id of a save?

[knotty timber]

hrm

[slim spoke]

yes ingame session thing

[cursive zenith]

I created a save game without a session id and upon server restart it does't load the save because the session id is empty

[surreal gale]

still getting client/server mismatch, but both client and server are validated

[quick mist]

oh no no no please don't run SteamCMD or the game server or ANY game server as the root user

[merry bolt]

you should use a fully qualified path for force_install_dir, not a relative one

[surreal gale]

i do what I want

[forest anchor]

want me to send it to u in dm and u can see if it works in ur linux box ???

[slim spoke]

it assigns a generic session id .. it might not if its private when u start save though

[surreal gale]

sudo make me a sandwhich

[smoky crater]

always run groot I mean root

[sullen scroll]

i just typed login anonymous force_install_dir SatisfactoryDedicatedServer app_update 1690800 quit in

[tacit finch]

for @peak wharf more or less irrelevant. but still true

[sullen scroll]

@peak wharf lmao

[tacit finch]

lol

[slim spoke]

try using the proper cmd from the wiki

[quick mist]

poor @Localhost

[slim spoke]

or from the posts here

[tacit finch]

xD

He wanted it

[smoky crater]

don't be a RTFM guy d00d

[surreal gale]

listen, i'm not PFY, skip the sec lecture por favor. im just saying the client/server doesn't match rn

[slim spoke]

ok u tell him all the stuff he left out of the cmd that makes it not work

[quick mist]

Steam is notorious for not updating the servers and clients on the backend at the same time

[slim spoke]

so he can fix it

[surreal gale]

that's good to know

@slim spoke are you talking to me? that copypasta IS from the wiki

[quick mist]

Eco sometimes takes two days for the server data to update after the client does which causes no end of strife

[slim spoke]

there is no + for switches in his cmd

[merry bolt]

also EGS is a factor for clients too, whole different distribution platform

[quick mist]

indeed

[surreal gale]

you're talking about someone else

wrong thread lawl

[slim spoke]

the paste from oschwhoever

[surreal gale]

gotcha

im on a different page

welcome to chatops

https://tenor.com/view/finger-guns-michael-scott-steve-carell-the-office-pew-gif-14552925

[smoky crater]

discord blows can we get IRC?

[slim spoke]

this is kvirc for kids

[quick mist]

hear, hear. /mode +m #dedicated-servers-experimental (:

[surreal gale]

WELCOME TO FREENODE

rip

[obsidian magnet]

Hey I dont see the dedi in my tools list

[balmy glacier]

Its not in the tools list at the moment, will get added soon™
have to use SteamCMD

[merry bolt]

@surreal galei am not seeing any update on the dedicated server or the egs client any time recently. my versions claim to be latest and they match. you may have something else going on (or maybe the steam client is out of sync. i dont have it on steam)

[obsidian magnet]

So did they have to remove it or is the video just not accurate yet

[balmy glacier]

Was not added for public on time or something

[tacit finch]

wth is this system with sessionID? can't I use a IP like normal client <=> server communication?

[surreal gale]

I played earlier today on the dedicated server I had spun up, no issue. then about 30 minutes ago my client updated, now no dice

[smoky crater]

me neither. I'm on linux tho

[merry bolt]

i am seeing version 170209 on EGS and on server. what are you seeing?

[tacit finch]

Dedicated Server only for Experimental Branch or for normal too?

[merry bolt]

only experimental

[tacit finch]

this explains many things

[light wagon]

Heh

[slim spoke]

dedi needs u5 to work

[surreal gale]

client is at 170209, checking server now

[merry bolt]

i am using this line in the output log to determine server version

LogInit: Net CL: 170209

[surreal gale]

Which log?

[tacit finch]

LOL I like how I need to claim the Server trough the Game XD

Someone here who wants to test my Server?

[merry bolt]

FactoryGame/Saved/Logs/FactoryGame.log in the server install dir

[quick mist]

I can give it a quick test if you like.. let me make sure my copy on this machine is updated. (it is.)

[tacit finch]

Still needs a second to load the game

but seems like it works 😄

[surreal gale]

LogInit: Net CL: 170147

bingo

[merry bolt]

oh i am also running the server on Windows, so i guess there is a chance that the Linux build is out of date for some reason, but this version came out hours ago so it shouldnt be

[surreal gale]

yup, I'm on nix

and steam claims fully up to date

cry.jpg

[merry bolt]

try specifying a fully qualified path for force_install_dir

[surreal gale]

it doesn't complain when I update, and I def. don't have two installs, but I'll try it

why not, at this point

OMG IT FUCKING WORKED WHY

[merry bolt]

i dont know how it works on linux, but on Windows, SteamCmd has some default dir it installs everything to unless you specify, and giving it a relative path seems to make the path relative to its default rather than something sensible like the current directory

[quick mist]

on Linux it seems to install in your working directory, or it used to, but I have long since learned to never not force_install_dir so.. it may have changed.

[smoky crater]

but we did use force_install_dir for installation

[surreal gale]

I alwaysed used force_install_dir

Crypstal is right, gotta use the full path

probably want to change that documentation/wiki

[tacit finch]

Someone already found where the sessionId is?

[surreal gale]

And you were right @merry bolt I have two installs, found the other

[faint wagon]

In lunux, using the systemd service seems to use a different game directory than just running the FactoryServer.sh
thoughts?

[surreal gale]

since you have to make your own service manifest, that's on you

[quick mist]

the systemd config needs to specify the working directory

[faint wagon]

i'm justing copy/pasting whats in the guide

[tacit finch]

So Server is running who wants to make a test drive with me?

[quick mist]

[Unit]
Description=Satisfactory Server
Wants=network.target
After=syslog.target network.target nss-lookup.target network-online.target

[Service]
Environment="LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./linux64"
ExecStartPre=/usr/games/steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir /path/to/YOUR_GAME_SERVER_LOCATION +app_update 1690800 validate +quit
ExecStart=/path/to/YOUR_GAME_SERVER_LOCATION/FactoryServer.sh
User=ROLE_USER
Group=ROLE_GROUP
Restart=on-failure
RestartSec=10
KillSignal=SIGINT
WorkingDirectory=/path/to/YOUR_GAME_SERVER_LOCATION

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target

all the SHOUTY stuff needs to be corrected for your specific configuration

the important magic is:

[faint wagon]

well, is the game working directory different than the save game directory?

[quick mist]

yes

it's the location in which the FactoryServer.sh script can be found

[faint wagon]

because i deleted the game save files uninstalled and reinstalled but left the .service file the same, and the old files loaded again

right, so game directory is good. but it must be pulling the game savs from somewhere else when using the service rather than the .sh script

[quick mist]

it seems to stash the world-save in two places for some reason; one a few directories deep inside the working dir, and another copy in ~/.config/Epic/[...]

[remote wasp]

How does one join a dedicated server instead of host? I cant seem to toggle the private setting to open it via that route

[faint wagon]

hmm, i'm not convinced that's my issue either as i deleted the entire epic and game directory folders

then uninstalled/reinstalled and the service loads the old file 🤔

[quick mist]

click this, add the server. This is for both admins and normal users.

[remote wasp]

Ok, and if im running it on localhost, what would they search?

[tacit finch]

Someone wants to try my Server? I try yours for you too 😄

[quick mist]

be happy to

[quick mist]

127.0.0.1 is always the localhost address. I have no idea what your LAN or WAN address is though.

[rocky sentinel]

One thing I noticed on the linux server is if you don't do a clean shut down with a SIGINT (ctrl-c) or a quit/exit from the console it doesn't create the LinuxServer configuration directory on a new install. This is important if you are running in a docker container and just stop the server, or kill it from the command line.

[tacit finch]

pm'd you the IP

WAN is not internet btw

[vagrant dirge]

As Dope said, otherwise you can just type LocalHost as the game will recognize that as well.

[remote wasp]

If someone else is trying to connect to me, that requires them input my PCs IP?

[merry bolt]

sigint does not do a clean shutdown on Windows. does it actually work on linux?

i made a post about this issue on questions actually. because it should do a clean shutdown

[tacit finch]

Ok Server works like a Charm thanks @quick mist

[quick mist]

no problem!

[ocean crypt]

got it installed but it crashes after booting up. running it from command prompt with -unattended -log any ideas?

[vagrant dirge]

Your public IP, which you can find by going to whatsmyip.org

[rocky sentinel]

@merry bolt It appears to, I've been working in docker containers mostly, and was banging my head against why the LinuxServer directory was not being created when I stopped the container after a new install. I tested this on a stand alone server and it exhibited the same behavior.

[quick mist]

yes, SIGINT is a clean shutdown on POSIX

[merry bolt]

on Windows, the application has to specifically listen for the sigint and shut itself down, else windows will kill it

[quick mist]

on Windows, SIGINT isn't a thing (:

[ocean crypt]

is that why it crashes haha

[merry bolt]

well technically it isnt but ctrl+c is a thing that sends a signal to a program, so it is more or less sigint

[sullen scroll]

i cant find the installation folder

[quick mist]

I can get into the weeds about the differences between a Kernel signal and a BRK but this isn't StackExchange (:

[remote wasp]

Even with the ip that doesnt work. Am i missing something else?

[ocean crypt]

I get "error: completed successfully" then it crashes lol

[slim spoke]

steam mp has bugs right now stopping mp

[tacit finch]

Three Informations regarding running the Server.

Its Single Threaded:
This means it runs only on one CPU Core. Not sure how the Server handles with a normal Server CPU more than 2-4 Players.

Ram Usage is Moderate:
around 4.3 GB ram with 2 players online and without more build than the HUB and a Gear Station. Like this it needs way more Ram for bigger bases.

Network Usage:
Two players means around 20-25MB up & downstream. So for you to let players on the server you NEED an actual GOOD internet Connection.

[ocean crypt]

Steam API failed to initialize

yeah weird, even when I run with -nosteam it still crashes after booting

[native osprey]

So I'm still getting" The Server and Game Versions are not compatible, has this issue been figuerd out?

[quick mist]

you will see a lot of ignorable warnings about unsupported Steam API hooks, this is fine.

[tacit finch]

both needs to be experimental

[ocean crypt]

the log window still closes down...

[vagrant dirge]

Take a look at the Wiki, there are three ports that you need to make sure are open (forwarded), you'll have to log into your router's admin interface and forward the port numbers from the Wiki. If you need instructions on how to do that portforward.com has instructions for port forwarding on most routers.

After you do the port forwarding, you can check the ports on canyouseeme.org to make sure they're actually open while you have the server running.

[knotty timber]

Oh single thread yikes, 48 cores and the game running 100% on ONE of them lol

[native osprey]

They are

[tacit finch]

Then no idea

update your local version perhaps

[quick mist]

you're probably also missing forwarding three UDP ports if you're hosting from home

[remote wasp]

Ok

[native osprey]

no update in que, and Verify says A O K

[tacit finch]

48 cores ...some Epyc cpu?

or wait 48 cores...can be a 2 intel xeon too...but why that much compute power?

[hoary ridge]

no such thing as 48 core cpu, u must mean threads

[fluid turret]

Threads are logical cores

[faint wagon]

24core with hyperthreading maybe?

[fluid turret]

so yes

[tacit finch]

Epyc 7642

google it

[fluid turret]

there are also 48 core cpus lol

[hoary ridge]

point im making is its not normal

a core is physical, thread is logical, bigggg difference

[fluid turret]

no such thing =/= "Not Normal"

[tacit finch]

😄

[hoary ridge]

dont be so uptight

[fluid turret]

🙂

[tacit finch]

btw

64 core is a thing too

Epyc 7742

[hoary ridge]

cpus usually have like 4 cores, maybe 8 / 16 in a server

[tall jay]

lol

[fluid turret]

unless you are talking about ryzen

[tall jay]

binh

[merry bolt]

10 core is fairly common also. in servers that are used to host VMs, having 64+ cores is not abnormal

[tacit finch]

Most new consumer CPU in a higher price point (around 300€ or more) have usually 6-8 or more cores.

[hoary ridge]

its 9000$ lol

[slim spoke]

#off-topic-tech

[hoary ridge]

pretty dumb the server is single thread anyway

[slim spoke]

game is 3 cores lol

[tacit finch]

server only one

[hoary ridge]

you mean 3 thread

[knotty timber]

sorry yeah thread, it's dual E5-2696 so 24c/48t

[tacit finch]

😄

[fluid turret]

Either way dedi server for this game legit needs 1 thread its crazy, I want to see how to actually stress a cpu in this game if its possible, likely need 20 people driving vehicles playing bumper cars.

[tacit finch]

Still are here more people who want to stress test my server real quick?

[slim spoke]

game runs on 3 cores

[knotty timber]

How many people on your server rn?

[slim spoke]

started as 1

[hoary ridge]

pretty sure 1 thread can use an entire cpu core anyway

[tacit finch]

2

[merry bolt]

my server instance currently has 33 threads

[knotty timber]

Yeah i'll join, DM the host?

[hoary ridge]

can i join too pls

[fluid turret]

You get my point, minimal cpu usage

[tacit finch]

you got it

[hoary ridge]

ofc

[sullen scroll]

it typed login anonymous force_install_dir SatisfactoryDedicatedServer app_update 1690800 quit where did it land? can someone help me i cant find the foldder

[hoary ridge]

tbh servers shouldnt be that cpu heavy, idk why theirs is

[fluid turret]

you should be putting a folder in the command so you dont have to find it

[sullen scroll]

to late

[fluid turret]

but it will install inside steamcmd folder

or in steamcmd steamapps common

[hoary ridge]

u should install debian on an intel nuc

or an old pc or something

[slim spoke]

did the cmd even run since its not complete with + for the switches

he typed it in not copied it

[dreamy cipher]

anyone else not seeing the DS client in Steam? and yes, I checked tools

[sullen scroll]

nope

[fluid turret]

ok so I loaded up Kibitz 700 hour save and its taking 3.6 gb of ram but 31% of my Ryzen 5600x, so big factories chuck CPU

[slim spoke]

have to use steamcmd to get dedi

[sullen scroll]

nope

[slim spoke]

wiki search dedicated servers for instructions

[fluid turret]

Dude thats something only you can figure out or screenshare to someone willing to help

[dreamy cipher]

thanks, that's what I thought. Should be pinned here, imho

[vagrant dirge]

DM me

[slim spoke]

start by copying the proper cmd line

[tacit finch]

Rofl

[low nest]

@sullen scroll you need to make a startup.bat file for the installer. and a starteupgame.bat for the game

[tacit finch]

seems like the Server is not completly Single threaded

[slim spoke]

linux isnt into just leaving things out of cmd line for fun

it trips over a simple caps

[low nest]

@sullen scroll https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[tacit finch]

cmd is not linux

[slim spoke]

anyways its wrong compare them ... probably his first issue with installing

[hoary ridge]

ur right my gaming laptop has 8 cores, i guess im still thinking back like 10 yrs ago

[sullen scroll]

but WHER TF IS IT ???

[slim spoke]

osch04 did u actually run the proper cmd line from the wiki

[hoary ridge]

its probs in steamapps folder

[vagrant dirge]

No need to get aggressive, send me a DM, I'll help you get it sorted.

[tall jay]

steamapps/common/factorygame, no?

[slim spoke]

RIGHT CMD - steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 +quit

osch04 cmd - login anonymous force_install_dir SatisfactoryDedicatedServer app_update 1690800 quit

[hoary ridge]

he bro can u do that again but check the individual core usage? like this

u can open resource monitor from bottom of task manager

[upper valve]

Ok guys i am trying to launch the server with steamcmd

Where do i find the executable file? / how do i launch it

[slim spoke]

look up there is link to instructions

[upper valve]

I was following this post
https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/qgbc2a/multiplayer_in_update_5_working_for_anyone/

[hoary ridge]

cant u launch it from steam

[upper valve]

How do i launch it from steam?

[slim spoke]

u dont

[quick mist]

It looks like it's riding on two cores to me:

[slim spoke]

u have to use steamcmd to get dedis

[upper valve]

What is dedis?

[vagrant dirge]

dedicated server

[slim spoke]

read name of room?

[upper valve]

bro i have installed it

i just cant launch 😦

[slim spoke]

wiki page did u read it

[upper valve]

Yes bro and thats why im here looking for other information...

[tall jay]

if you're having issues, tried AMP?

[hoary ridge]

https://youtu.be/Nn-1s87JJxc?t=541 watch the demo

[slim spoke]

Starting the server
If you are using Steam, just launch it, like you would any other game. However, that is not very useful for most purposes. You might actually want to launch the server from the command line instead.

[hoary ridge]

its hidden, click the tools box

[slim spoke]

then they give the info to u

[hoary ridge]

https://youtu.be/Nn-1s87JJxc?t=541 watch the demo

[slim spoke]

use steamcmd

[fluid turret]

I was actually wrong I was looking at the client, the server is only at 11% CPU usage.

[hoary ridge]

oke

[fluid turret]

Clients not responding cause I am tabbed out, dont know why it does that

[slim spoke]

game is holding

[tacit finch]

No Active player on the Server = 20% CPU usage for my dServer.... ;D

btw. Why do you guys want to run a headless machine on your GamePC?

[hoary ridge]

what

[fluid turret]

its legit just for testing

[hoary ridge]

was gonna say ahhaha

[tacit finch]

😄

[fluid turret]

I dont want to pay for a server with a Ryzen 5600x equiv CPU and 32gb of ram

just to test

[tacit finch]

I've got a Server already running multiple applications. So I'll let it run from this Server

[fluid turret]

I dont own any computational optimized servers

[hoary ridge]

whatg

[fluid turret]

Servers with shear computational power

[hoary ridge]

are u one of the indians who did all the IT certs and memorized all the advanced terminology noone actually uses

[fluid turret]

no its just late

[tacit finch]

I just see no valid reason beside testing why someone would want to run a headless within a home network...

I mean the whole point of a headless is to throw it on and forget about it. To let it run so that you and your friends have the same stable connection to the game without the danger that the hosted network is on this day bad.

[hoary ridge]

ill run a headless at home, I have a nuc and a miniserver

[fluid turret]

I work with what I got

[tacit finch]

Let's home you home network connection is good then 😄

[fluid turret]

ok?

[tacit finch]

Nah just my thoughts about it

[hoary ridge]

well idk but good enough for ppl in same region i imagine

[cinder wind]

I have a headless Ubuntu server on a 24 core threadripper at home

[tacit finch]

btw. Servers able to run satisfactory are available for around 5€

[fluid turret]

Trust me if I currently had access to a server with 16 or 32 gb of ram I would be stress testing the hell out of that instead of my computer

[quick mist]

many of the folks who are inclined to run headless servers also have one at home to test implementations and deployments with them before flinging them to remote hosts.

[hoary ridge]

how much ram u need, kibitz only used 3.6gb

[quick mist]

Coffee Stain suggested ~5GiB of RAM

[tacit finch]

4.3 for me right now

[fluid turret]

It actually was at 8gb upon initial load

[hoary ridge]

but u are right though, using a cloud server so much better for security

[fluid turret]

they actually haven't suggested anything

[quick mist]

they did in their initial Wiki article

[fluid turret]

CSS specifically abstained from adding min specs

[fluid turret]

that was added by a user

[sonic wind]

Have someone tested it on a Raspberry Pi? xD

[tacit finch]

It is recommended to run a server with 6+ GB

[fluid turret]

I edited it to say that lol

brought it down from when it said 8gb

which was dumb

[hoary ridge]

it might be able to queue that tho

[tacit finch]

ahh

[hoary ridge]

u should have 8gb anyway

[tacit finch]

swap is bad mkay

[fluid turret]

about to load 100mb save file lets see how this goes

[hoary ridge]

no i mean the server might queue its loading idk

swap is discusting i agree

[fluid turret]

There is a 330mb save file but I haven't found a download for it

[quick mist]

Swap is highly important. It's just not fast

[fluid turret]

Loading in and its hit 6gb ram

[hoary ridge]

swap is just there to stop ur pc from crashing, u should hope to use it as little as possible

[torn gate]

So I looked on my other steam account running on a hp proliant g7 server and I don’t have satisfactory in the tools menu, no that account don’t have a copy of the game. And I’d rather not install cmd if all possible. Is anyone else having that issue?

[hoary ridge]

especially if ur swap is on ur ssd loooool

[analog rune]

so, uh, i am including "tools" on my steam library list and the dedicated server isnt appearing

[tacit finch]

if for example a webserver begins to use swap....you go from 0,5 seconds pageload to 15 seconds pageload

[sonic wind]

I will try it today i have the 8gb version

[tacit finch]

so swap is bad...even on SSD

[quick mist]

right now the only way to get the dedicated server from Steam is through SteamCMD

[analog rune]

hey then how did jace get it in the video

[tacit finch]

Good luck with the Raspberry

[torn gate]

Thank you.

[hoary ridge]

it wastes ur ssds life

[quick mist]

Swap is really really good. The kernel can page out unused libraries and kernel bits and bobs to swap so that the processes that are active get more RAM

[tacit finch]

that too

[quick mist]

well yes you don't want to use an SSD for swap, that should go without saying

[torn gate]

Time to break out that ol’ monitor… lol

[tacit finch]

Did someone already figure out which commands can be used in the console?

[hoary ridge]

getting more ram is always better than constantly splashing into swap

[tacit finch]

I only found session

[fluid turret]

there are none except for exit and default Ue4 server commands

[quick mist]

right now the only important one is quit (:

[fluid turret]

and exit is a default ue4 command

[hoary ridge]

storage death is way more expensive than ram

[tacit finch]

haha 😄

[slow tide]

so i'm setting up through AMP, and getting This Server Appears to be offline

[fluid turret]

go to the AMP discord for support

its a paid service we cant help you here

[hoary ridge]

nowadays windows even stores ram to the ssd on shutdown for fast startup, i disable that s****

[slow tide]

figured I'd ask here as the wiki specifically had AMP instructions, but sure, I'll check there as well

[fluid turret]

the person who added it to the wiki owns the software he is basically advertising

[hoary ridge]

what is AMP

[fluid turret]

I am thinking of removing it cause its not a free method

AMP is a general term but the CubeCoder guy added his AMP software to the wiki tutorial for dedicated servers

[torn gate]

A paid service I think @hoary ridge

Key word

Think

[hoary ridge]

oooh i see its a front end

[slow tide]

I believe that AMP is paid. My mistake for assuming it was being supported by satisfactory proper.

[hoary ridge]

just leave it bro its good for noobs

[fluid turret]

all good

[hoary ridge]

if it works then leave it

[velvet abyss]

so how is it running for everyone so far? i am getting a bunch of crashes lately

[hoary ridge]

actually its a windows app, WTF ahhahah

[fluid turret]

no it works on all OS

maybe except for mac

[hoary ridge]

ok ok

[torn gate]

Seeing that I just found out dedicated servers… a project for tomorrow. Thanks for the info.

[cursive zenith]

We noticed that mass deconstruct/mass dismantle causes crashes

[hoary ridge]

just put a little banner message above it saying "if you actually pay for this you are a gronk"

[velvet abyss]

oh is that what it is

that explains it

[faint wagon]

I love the console in linux (without the unattended mode) anyway to view that while using the .service on startup? maybe a file i can tail -f ?

[hoary ridge]

is there a bug report on questions.satisfactory

[cursive zenith]

Not sure, I still need to check for my session issue as well

[hoary ridge]

make sure to report all bugs to thequestions website so they make dedicated servers stable assap

[cursive zenith]

focused on playing atm but will report as soon as I'm leaving

[hoary ridge]

cant sleep on this gem

[tacit finch]

xD

[hoary ridge]

i thought we would be waiting years for dedicated servers

[faint wagon]

@torn gate why wait, pull an allnighter 😂

[velvet abyss]

i was surprised they put them out with no buildup or anything

[tacit finch]

I need to go to work now.
Can't really test my dServer for a bit now 😭

[hoary ridge]

the golf vid troll was so good

[fluid turret]

cause its stupid barebones right now

[frosty gale]

Just checking if steam multiplayer works yet....

[hoary ridge]

i was like how cruel of them to bait dedicated servers like that

[hoary ridge]

is there any config files u can modify

[fluid turret]

nope, legit the only thing right now is what is absolutely essential for running the server

[slim spoke]

wiki people will fix that dedi page when they see it

[fluid turret]

not even password protection

[fluid turret]

see what?

[slim spoke]

the stuff about the wiki page for dedis

[tacit finch]

password protection is already there?

If you claimed the Server within the game as Administrator you see "Game Settings" There you can change the server password and the Admin Password

So your server CAN have a password

[fluid turret]

I meant outside of the UI, like the only way to change server config is within the game

[tacit finch]

ahh k

[hoary ridge]

icannot see dedicaated server under the tools in my library how do i install it

[fluid turret]

which in my opinion is a requirement but clearly it didn't happen

[fluid turret]

use SteamCMD as detailed in the wiki post

that is in the pinned messages

[hoary ridge]

i thought that was just for headless servers only

[slim spoke]

thats what dedicated servers are

[fluid turret]

there is only 1 method

but 2 methods for installing the tool itself

[slim spoke]

cmd window u dont need to see

[hoary ridge]

"can only be installed through Steam or its command line sibling SteamCMD. "

[fluid turret]

I dont understand your problem

[hoary ridge]

i dont want to use steamcmd because it says i dont have to

i can install through the library apparently

[fluid turret]

well you do if you dont have satisfactory on steam and or the tool doesn't show up in your library

[hoary ridge]

:/ so the wiki is wrong

[fluid turret]

how is it wrong?

It says "or"

through steam or SteamCMD

[hoary ridge]

if it says i can install through steam i should be able to

[fluid turret]

The world doesn't always work like that

[hoary ridge]

steamcmd is only for headless

[fluid turret]

its the same dude

[hoary ridge]

the wiki is wrong, needs to be updated

[fluid turret]

its a wiki so update it yourself if you think you know better, thats the point of a wiki

[hoary ridge]

no i am lazy

[fluid turret]

Then be on your merry way

[hoary ridge]

and selfish

[slim spoke]

they have to fix it on steam so it works

[fluid turret]

Likely something only steam can fix

[slim spoke]

or they didn tput an image with it so it doesnt list

like devs were told by someone

[hoary ridge]

im just gonna watch other ppl play this update for the time being and once its stable ill jump in like the selfish shite i am

[snow belfry]

Atm there seems to be a problem with it not showing in the library for everyone. Until that is fixed steamcmd is the only way

[hoary ridge]

i wish they nerf the earlygame, gathering sticks and building in sand and dirt makes me want to kermit

the worst part is having to rip it all up and build it all again on foundations

[slim spoke]

then hub up til coal

[hoary ridge]

ill probs use save file edit

[velvet abyss]

steamcmd was pretty simple. im clueless and got it to work with the info provided

[snow belfry]

Yeah it is simple. People who don't do servers that much just hate commandline I guess

[hoary ridge]

if you are capable of following a wiki you are a certified IT genius

[velvet abyss]

lol

[snow belfry]

Usually gui I only use for testing. I mean you are going to use cmd for root server anyway right?

[hoary ridge]

gui is for poosies

config files are for chads

[rose valley]

Uhm.. but we do have that?

[snow belfry]

Yeah not even going to say anything to that other than : not understanding how to use steamcmd not make you a "poosie"

[quick mist]

It's definitely strange not seeing the status lights on the buildings

[fluid turret]

Good morning bogdan but read the messages below that one

[snow belfry]

People know and learn different things and in different speeds

[quick mist]

I guess there is another state besides white/green/yellow/red/blue after all (:

[slim spoke]

white OC

[hoary ridge]

config files > gui > config files (sometimes) > console > gui (sometimes)

[rose valley]

I see. Tbh that's intentional. Slinging plaintext passwords around is not very secure.

[fluid turret]

The point I was making is no config files basically

the only thing people actually could change was player limit

[quick mist]

it's a first-release. I'm sure config files out-of-the-box are coming

[snow belfry]

@low thorn btw is there a plan to have any sort of protection for open servers? IE= locking storage, disassemble permissions?

[fluid turret]

I know

[hoary ridge]

using a console isnt hard, you just have to use a wiki reference to what commands to use, guis are stupid in a lot of cases because they require a lot of developer time to make them fully featured, wheras consoles and config files are typically much quicker to develop

[fluid turret]

I think the modding community will pick up a lot of slack in that area

[rose valley]

No specific plans at the moment but I acknowledge the usefulness of that.

[snow belfry]

They will ofc. :) but still

[fluid turret]

Anyone want to help stress test 100mb save file on my dedicated server?

[hoary ridge]

bro put a firewall on your server (iptables or something) and get the IP addresses of your friends who are connecting in and add them to a whitelist and block everything else

you can even put whitelisted IPs on the port forwards on your router on some models i think

[fluid turret]

not at all what he was talking about yami

[hoary ridge]

oooh sorry my bad

[snow belfry]

Back when satisfactory started I created the modding discord. For exact exactly that reason. Because I knew modders will do the stuff devs
Won't :) and devs also get inspired

[hoary ridge]

i imagine the game would be really hard to play if everyone playing was putting permissions on their buildings

[snow belfry]

It's about an open server where you let random people join. Currently it's dangerous to have no password because of griefers

[fluid turret]

locking storage and disassemble permissions is what he said lol

[hoary ridge]

literally would have to wait for admin/the builder to login in order to rectify a issue in production

[fluid turret]

yeah?

[hoary ridge]

open server probably wouldnt work too well

[fluid turret]

Whats the problem with that exactly, you cant steal or destroy other peoples stuff unless given a role /perms

[hoary ridge]

satisfactory isnt rlly an mmo

[fluid turret]

doesn't have to be

[snow belfry]

I know therefore my questions is there are plans

[fluid turret]

minecraft is not an MMO, Rust is not an MMO

[snow belfry]

I will talk to the modding guys to get started

[hoary ridge]

everything is intertwined so sometimes u gotta rip stuff up or modify

[round gyro]

is it just me or are building status indicator lights busted?

[fluid turret]

I am incredibly amazed and confused now, on first load of 100mb save it was taking 6gb of ram, restarted the server and its now at 1.1gb something seems very off

[hoary ridge]

if u look at mindustry they have public servers that have like voting system to reset servers to scratch, you can also vote to ban ppl who are being annoying, there is also greif detection that stops ppl from suddenly deleting everything and reports deletions in chat

[sullen scroll]

next step: Forceing SML on it

[snow belfry]

I'm sure that will happen fast enough

[hoary ridge]

insane ram usage, even 1gig seems a bit much for a server

[fluid turret]

Bro are you trolling?

[fickle zinc]

LUL

[snow belfry]

Only problem is if server hoster will allow it

[sullen scroll]

a SML version for V0.5.00 is not releasd jet so..

[hoary ridge]

whats sml

[sullen scroll]

Satisfactory Mod Loader

[hoary ridge]

oo

[snow belfry]

Yeah give them some time.

[sullen scroll]

.>

<.<

[quick mist]

I knew it. I predicted less than one day before people were looking to get mods on dedis (:

[fluid turret]

I'd say it would take atleast a month to get a stable SML release but maybe a beta in a few weeks

[hoary ridge]

lol

[slim spoke]

every time they update people instantly want mods

[sullen scroll]

just annyoing a little bit Panakotta00 and it will be faster here

[snow belfry]

It's also possible they are going to wait. Like I said I stepped down as admin there so I am not following much

[fickle zinc]

you guys need some chill, mods will come in time, just about all the mod developers do this in their free time

[hoary ridge]

its on github u can work on it

[snow belfry]

But this I am going to keep an eye out for :) sml would be good for the perms I mentioned

[slim spoke]

we are chill dont worry

just people chatting in a room

[snow belfry]

This is a room? I thought I am outside

[sullen scroll]

maybe a SMM support for server ?!

[snow belfry]

Smm does not need any support for server unless you mean that it can automatically upload

[sullen scroll]

right

or a way to unpack a mod profil file on the server

[snow belfry]

Yeah

[cobalt iron]

Are there any known issues with connecting to a dedicated steam server using an Epic client game?

[slim spoke]

there is mp bugs in exp right now seem to be with steam

[fickle zinc]

So I switched from running the server in a VM to docker (on the same host) and now my loopback dns wont let me connect to the server, anyone have any ideas? I'm having to use the private IP instead of my public domain name. which is a pain.

[sullen scroll]

nope

[cobalt iron]

I just can't get a successful join to work

UniqueId: INVALID

[fluid turret]

Who is having the problem connecting and where is the server.

[cobalt iron]

Me and Me

Server is managed by me

set up by me

accessible publically

[fluid turret]

You are connecting using localhost or is the server on a separate machine

[cobalt iron]

trying both

or rather

no

dedicated server machine

[fickle zinc]

Linux or Windows?

[cobalt iron]

separate from my game rig

linux

[fickle zinc]

Distro?

[cobalt iron]

Fedora

[fluid turret]

ewww but ok

[cobalt iron]

server is up and running, I connect successufully to it in the manager

it is just the join that does not work

[slim spoke]

make sure it can open udp ports

[fluid turret]

you are using ipv4 address?

[snow belfry]

XD I agree ewww debian all the way

[cobalt iron]

ipv4 yes

[fickle zinc]

is there a firewall on the server? and if so all 3 ports open?

[cobalt iron]

open both locally and on the router

[fluid turret]

I am guessing his system is on the same network so ports dont matter right now

[cobalt iron]

but I will doublecheck

forwarding works fine

[slim spoke]

game server opens upd ports for it to hear connections

[quick mist]

udp, but yes

[fickle zinc]

running direct on host? or docker?

[snow belfry]

Ups

[slim spoke]

tired of repeat typing

[cobalt iron]

Direct

[hoary ridge]

have u done an nslookup and whatnot to make sure it all matches up to the correct ip

[cobalt iron]

absolutely, the server manager would not even be able to connect if I messed that up

will doublecheck udp

[native osprey]

Alright. I found my Save File from before. But it has no Session Name... is there a way i can fix this file as it had 4 hours before the Server crashed.

I can't seem to figure out where AMP saved their files.. so unsure how to put it in

[rose valley]

double check the game port. for the server to show up in the server manager, only the query port (15777 default) needs to be reachable.

[fickle zinc]

I was using the hostname just fine before I switched to docker and I use that hostname for everything on my server. but yes, nslookup shows the right IP

[rose valley]

is that on linux?

[fickle zinc]

yes

[quick mist]

I don't do a lot with Docker, but is Docker passing through connections to the outward host's UDP ports to its virtualized instance?

[rose valley]

try -net=host maybe? A bit of a sledgehammer but it might just work.

[fickle zinc]

sorry false alarm, I think my Meraki Firewall hadn't gotten my updated rules yet

[cobalt iron]

doublechecked and verified that both UDP and TCP is open and forwarded in the router to the correct destination internally and that it is open in the local fw in fedora

I guess I will give up on this and try another dist

I used to use Debian only for several years.

[fluid turret]

Do the process on your main machine to get used to how it should function

[rose valley]

maybe try temporarily disabling the firewall, just to troubleshoot. if that works, it's the firewall setup

[faint wagon]

anyone have experience with crontab ?

[fickle zinc]

what do you need help with?

[quick mist]

what does ss -plnu show for open UDP ports? have you cross-checked that between your port forwarding and/or firewall settings?

e. g.

ghoti@dope:~$ ss -plnu | grep 'UE' | awk '{print $4}'
0.0.0.0:15000
0.0.0.0:15777
0.0.0.0:7777

[faint wagon]

running a backup script on a schedule, works fine if i run the script manual, breaks when i run it with crontab @fickle zinc

[quick mist]

that usually means the cron runtime environment doesn't match your testing environment

[rose valley]

is the entry added to the right user's crontab and does the command maybe depend on a specific cwd?

[fickle zinc]

maybe the user running the script?

[quick mist]

okay, good, so the right ports are open on the host.. I don't know what else to suggest beyond triple-checking the FW / Masquerading

[faint wagon]

@fickle zinc i'm running the script with the same user that i'm configuring crontab with, but i feel crontab runs as root no matter what user you're logged in as?

[cobalt iron]

Thanks all for trying to help, I will play something else for a bit and try again later 🙂 when I have more energy

[quick mist]

no, each user has its own cron table

[fickle zinc]

1 1 * * * username /path/to/your/script.sh

[faint wagon]

@rose valley i used the full paths for everything

[fickle zinc]

you can also set the user

[faint wagon]

oh, taht might be nice, lemme try atht

[quick mist]

how are you editing the cron table? you're not doing sudo crontab -e are you?

[tacit finch]

So if I understand this correctly with Docker Port forwarding its possible to have multiple servers on the same Machine? I really thought the port limitation was client based.

[quick mist]

(if you are the answer is to just use crontab -e)

[faint wagon]

i'm using crontab -e

[rose valley]

you can have more servers on the same machine with or without docker. at the moment you cannot do port redirection though. You basically need to specify the ports. There's a bug at the moment and the -GamePort=nnnn option is not applied but that will be fixed soon. At the moment it just auto increments.

[quick mist]

okay then the most likely thing is that the backup script is expecting something in the runtime envionment that you have when you're testing it that's not there when cron runs it.

[faint wagon]

@fickle zinc that made it not run at all

[quick mist]

it could be as simple as the working directory which can be fixed by setting that in the script itself

[native osprey]

Has anyone figured out where AMP is saving games at? I'm having a hard time loading a save file into the dedicated server

[blissful osprey]

How it auto increments it? If 7777 is already used, it will just use 7778 instead? How does it check?

[quick mist]

that's what auto-increment means, yes

[faint wagon]

@quick mist it's not really a testing environment, it's just a script in a folder, when i run it manually it works, when crontab runs it, it runs partially 🤔

[rose valley]

precisely!

[quick mist]

in that case running it manually is the testing environment

[fickle zinc]

my best guess is its file permissions

[rose valley]

It basically tries to bind 7777 and if that fails it goes on to the next one. That's the only way to check.

[vapid bramble]

not sure autoincrement is really a good idea... but if you can switch it off it could be a nice addition

[fickle zinc]

how does that work with docker? when you have to do port redirection from host to container?

[quick mist]

I'd be happy to help you look at the script

[blissful osprey]

Thank you, unfortunately that means for my use case it won't work.

[rose valley]

The answer is not that well. Port redirection is coming though.

[vapid bramble]

if the port can be set by a command line argument, you could also use a systemd service instance to set the port number

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@quick mist wanna hop in my discord server real quick, i have it pulled up