dedicated-servers

[fiery adder]

What options i have

we have a few hours to play daily in differents moment of the day

[spare orbit]

depends on skills and needs

[fiery adder]

well, i have a moderate skills with technology, i can learn too

i need a server open 24/7

[sinful nymph]

Just running the sh file, regular ./

no args

Let me check

[fiery adder]

i can leave my pc on 24/7 so i guess using him for host it's ok

[sinful nymph]

The game client removed the retry button 💀

[spare orbit]

if your internet is good enough, you trust your hardware to run fine 24/7, you have a static ip and your electricity is cheaper than the rent of a server is, yes

[sinful nymph]

VPS space is much less of a hassle

[spare orbit]

i said console output, you wont find that ingame anyway

[sinful nymph]

(restarting game client)

[sinful nymph]

Yes, I couldn't get it to give me any live info, because there was no option to connect to the server

:)

[spare orbit]

but you already failed the connect, so the output already shoul be there .-.

[sinful nymph]

oh yeah I tinkered with it and lost the output my b

[spare orbit]

yeah, then just try again

[sinful nymph]

the first connect worked fine

I hit create game, it said creating game, then connecting, and now it's back at game creation

And the same thing

Went to status, clicked join game

and timeout!!!

it seems okay

the server seems fine

and then it drops my connection

@spare orbit

I have engine ini timeout set to 90 secs, I don't understand

[spare orbit]

i need the rpute the server tries for your connection

[sinful nymph]

hm?

what

[spare orbit]

the console should output the ip route

[sinful nymph]

that is the last output that is there

I can look upwards

[spare orbit]

yeah, probably is above

[chrome pumice]

Try adding -multihome="ipadress" to your startup command.

[sinful nymph]

as to not have it opt for localhost

okay will do

good idea

[spare orbit]

it still behaves kinda weird

[sinful nymph]

hm?

[spare orbit]

the output normally lopks different.
are you on the same machine?

[sinful nymph]

No, it's a remote server

I'm working over ssh

it's a linux box

Ubuntu 20 afaik

[chrome pumice]

Might be weird because not using -log but on Linux host should be the same output with or without that?

[sinful nymph]

Linux has -log on by default yes

[spare orbit]

log and unattended are implicit, yes

[sinful nymph]

am getting a shitton of these

@spare orbit and timeout, again

exact same output with using multihome

I feel like if I could actually change the timeout that might help

20 seconds seems way too small anyway

for a remote host

[spare orbit]

you mean way too long

when stuff doesnt work in 2 seconds, it wont ever

[sinful nymph]

given the quality of the netcode in this game idk

[spare orbit]

20 alreay is quite excessive

[sinful nymph]

it seems that while rendering it stops the udp ping loop

[spare orbit]

20 seconds means no answer for that long

and that never happens

[sinful nymph]

somehow the game and server communicate enough to get a player position down

and then it never actually loads in, because it times out

I just want to fix whatever is happening here

I don't know why it's not listening to the INI config

Or better yet, why one UDP port works and the other doesn't

I have both open over ufw

it can get metadata perfectly fine

but loading into the game, it shits itself

Oh also apparently the game creation request isnt going through?

I don't get it 😭

[chrome pumice]

You said 1 port works and the other doesn't do you have all 3 ports open or just 2?

[sinful nymph]

I have all three open, 15777, 15000, and 7777

I can try again to reopen

The dedicated server is maxing out my CPU

that could honestly be part of the problem

[chrome pumice]

That sounds like it might be the cause if things have to wait for CPU too long.

[sinful nymph]

yeah

[sinful nymph]

Yeah it was maxing my cpu trying to run, that was the issue

[proven carbon]

I hadn't had port 7777 open previously. Would that have been the issue? Would opening it have been the fix?

[spare orbit]

in most cases, no

[proven carbon]

Would opening it hurt?

[proven carbon]

Well, turns out getting it to work ended up being as simple as

[fair osprey]

Timed out connection happens more often in EXP(?), not sure why, btu I've noticed I'm getting it a lot more than pre-U8

But yeah, dedi servers are a bit of a hassle to set up properly

[spark yew]

Hey there! Anyone else seeing their game crashing when approaching to fast to any hostile creature on a dedicated server? XD
Gotta be sneeky somehow to keep it stable and not being killed while offline.

[hot mortar]

I am seeing this regularly with an update 7 dedicated server.

[sinful nymph]

it's a combination of my engine ini not getting read as well as my vps being a single core 4gb ram

or maybe I have the wrong tags

however it is, connections time out at 20 no matter what I do

[hot mortar]

FWIW, I couldn't get the dedicated server to run with less than 16 GB of RAM (I tried with 8 GB before reading the minimum requirements)

[sinful nymph]

damn 💀

why a positional calculator so expensive

[sinful nymph]

even the actual game doesn't need that much

[hot mortar]

🤷 Maybe because you need to allocate more RAM to potentially support multiple players? It would be nice if that could be optimized though; it certainly makes VPS prices more expensive. According to the wiki:

12GB minimum, 16GB RAM is recommended for larger saves or to host more than 4 players.

[sinful nymph]

that is actually incredibly horrible

holy hell

[hot mortar]

Just speculating here: Satisfactory has a very long view distance compared to its peers, so maybe when a player loads into the game it can significantly increase the number of game objects the server has to keep track of. I imagine that if it were to support loading a dozen or more players into the game, it would have to account for the idea that pretty much the entire map would have to be loaded into the game at once. Maybe that is why the RAM requirement is so high.

[loud minnow]

I’m running it on my own hardware no issues on update 8 I do feel like updating 7 was a little more stable.. but I do have I running on docker with 8 thread allocated and 16GB allocated to it also and no issues for me and no timeout connection issues either so I’m pretty sure is just your hardware or if not is networking issues I see in here

[deep turret]

if you want to compare with the actual game the bare ground would be local game * n players
so if your local game takes 4GB only it would be 16GB already
of course most ressources are the same so it doesn't need to be duplicated
but a server still has to be ready to process the whole world
the other aspect is on local game you want it to dynamically shrink and load as needed from disk
so you have more room for browsers messagers etc.. on your PC
for a server you want most ressources already ready in ram because you need stability/consistency more and want to avoid disk i/o that could be easily avoided
if your game freeze because the server need disk read and vps disk read are mostly bad : every players get freeze
and client game may unsync too

[silver field]

I am an epic player and I play on experimental version when I start a server and I add it in manage servers with ipv4 adress and it says my server is offline

[hot mortar]

Hi epic player. We'll need more information in order to help. What OS is the server running on? How has it been installed? What logging do you see on the server console? Is any NAT involved? Any firewalls between your client and the server?

[silver field]

I just clicked on satisfactory dedicated server experimental

I just want to play with my freind he have satisfactory on steam

[hot mortar]

So you installed it on Windows with the Steam client? Are you running it on the same system as your game client?

[silver field]

yes I have satisfactory on epic ok and I have windows

[hot mortar]

Try typing "127.0.0.1" into the IP address field in the game client.

[silver field]

it works, but my freind have to use hamachi?

or he dont have to

[hot mortar]

Your friend would need to use your public IP address. And you would most likely need to forward the port for the server to your computer from your router.

[silver field]

and hamachi?

[hot mortar]

I've not tried Hamachi so I am not sure. It seems like that is one way to do it.

When you write "127.0.0.1" that just tells your computer to connect to itself (it's "localhost"). If you are using some kind of a VPN like Hamachi or forwarding packets through your router, you would need to tell your friend to use the appropriate IP address.

[silver field]

yes I know we use hamachi with subnautica multiplayer so I think its fine thank you

[analog tendon]

Stepped onto the Ficsit Freighter and got to this fun screen... lol

[jovial veldt]

Does anyone have familiarity with setting up satisfactory dedicated server as a service. I followed the steps on on the wiki, using NSSM, but I'm not sure how to point it at my existing saves when running it this way. I'm sure I'm just missing something obvious, as I'm not super experienced with it.

[marsh fable]

just made a new server im new to this how do i get past this my server just keeps saying offline name pending

[spare orbit]

you opened the ports?

[marsh fable]

i thought i did but i might have done it wrong doing it just now to see if this fixes the issue

[spare orbit]

its udp, thats important, i made the mistake with tcp the first time

[marsh fable]

i have set it for both is that ok

[spare orbit]

should work

[marsh fable]

what is the destination lan adress?

[spare orbit]

of the pc?

[marsh fable]

for inbound services it says what is the destination lan adress is this my pc or satisfactory ?

[spare orbit]

whats the setup

[marsh fable]

what do u mean set up can i screen shot it to show you i have no idea lol

[spare orbit]

no, i mean your hardware setup

[marsh fable]

in my pc ?

[spare orbit]

you description sounds like several pcs and external firewall

[marsh fable]

just 1 pc lol mabey im doing it wrong im signed into my sky hub trying to forword the ports or open them

[spare orbit]

into your what

[marsh fable]

i put my ip into the internet to get into my settings for the ports or do you not do it that way lol

how do u open the ports

[spare orbit]

i go to the router and set it there

[marsh fable]

yeaa thats what i mean i have signed into my router and im trying to allow it in the firewall i might watch a video on it and see how i get on whats the port numbers again ?

[spare orbit]

wait, with sky hub you meant the router?
tf is that for a model

[marsh fable]

yeaa my internet is with sky lol they call it a hub for some reason

[spare orbit]

uhh. what is it actually?

[marsh fable]

just a router plugged into the wall

[spare orbit]

no, the model

its different for different companies

[marsh fable]

awww haha 2 mins

[spare orbit]

in my setup its

[fervent kraken]

Trying to fix some wicked rubberbanding. Running a dedi server on

• linux
• experimental u8
• local server, 10Gbps link
• 104857600 fix applied to the 3 files. all set to readonly
  but still having issues. I can't set the network quality to ultra via console, since I just get Command not recognized

[marsh fable]

i with mine was as simple as that il show you what i have

[spare orbit]

104857600 fix
wat

what fix

[fervent kraken]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Multiplayer#Temporary_lag_solution

shows up in a few places across the web. figured it was the cure for my woes, but it doesn't seem to have helped

[spare orbit]

it just sets the amount the server can send higher

rubberbanding could just be server too slow in general

[fervent kraken]

server is a ryzen 5 2600 which i guess is kinda old at this point

but not sure

[spare orbit]

check the taskmanager and console output

it should tell the rubberbanding

[marsh fable]

this is what shows when i sign into my router

[spare orbit]

oh no, garbage hardware

[marsh fable]

yip

they make it so complicated to do a simple task

[spare orbit]

yeah, try to translate my image

to whatever that thing does

[marsh fable]

wish me luck lol

[fervent kraken]

Bandwidth and cpu usage look fine. I think the issue is probably client stuttering that appears like rubberbanding... fun stuff.

[marsh fable]

i have opened the ports and im still getting the same error

[high wagon]

both port of your router and your pc ?

[marsh fable]

i have dont the router how do i do th pc

[high wagon]

what

[marsh fable]

i have only opened the ports on the router

[high wagon]

are you on linux or windows

[marsh fable]

windows

[high wagon]

hmm, im used to work on linux

[marsh fable]

do u have to open ports on your pc aswell ?

im new to this with theese ports

[high wagon]

normaly, your pc doesnt listen on port that he doesnt use

here's gpt answer ahah

but it looks weird idk ...

[marsh fable]

aww the inbound and outbound firewall il go do that just now

so its a udp i have to do it with ?

[marsh fable]

your a life saver it worked thanks

[high wagon]

gg, enjoy your game

[marsh fable]

is it just the 1 port i have to open ?

15777

[high wagon]

15777 15000 7777

[marsh fable]

ok thanks

its still saying server offline im not getting any errors on steam cmd

[spare orbit]

why steam cmd?

[marsh fable]

i was told to use that ? how do you do it

[spare orbit]

steamcmd is for installing and updating. has nothing to do with running

[marsh fable]

was looking for errors why it wasnt online have u any ideas why its still showing as offline its online when i check gportal where i rent the server i have done all the ports on router and pc ?

[spare orbit]

i fogot how your routing looks like. from where to where you try to access it?

[marsh fable]

do i have to use a client to start the server up basically i have made a dedicated server on g portal and cant get it to work when i go to server manager in game it says server is offline name pending i have opened all the ports and its still saying the same

[spare orbit]

i have no idea tf you are doing. i thought its a local server, now its gportal

[marsh fable]

im tyying to set a dedicated server up for me and my friend to be able to play ?

[spare orbit]

where

[marsh fable]

iv set the server up on g portal i have 3 other servers for ark and they run fine it says the server is online how would u recommend to set up a dedicated server ?

[spare orbit]

so its not on your pc?

why did you even touch ports then?

and what did you try to do with steamcmd

[marsh fable]

i have no idea got told to do it by someone in here

[spare orbit]

well, you ask for support for something that has no support here

when you ask about a dedicated server its implicitly about the server software and not about something third party rented we have no idea about

need to ask gportal what they are doing

[deep turret]

yep here is a channel about support for the dedicated server itself
not about services around it

[limber gazelle]

Does anyone else notice splitters and machine inputs just not moving items every now and then requiring the belt to be rebuilt?

[random mural]

Sometimes yes

[orchid sand]

Anyone have the issue of their server crashing the client within 1-5mins of opening the game up?

[proven carbon]

Happens when you build belts or pipes too quickly, I've been noticing it too. It's annoying when you get into a flow of laying belts and then it turns out none of them worked because you were too goddamn quick.

Basically slow down a bit, if you have time, you can check each end to see if the support or port can be snapped to

[hearty stream]

Hi all. I start the server, when I enter it from the game, the session closes and throws me back into the menu. In the server console this is:

STEAM: Failed to initialize Steam, this could be due to a Steam server and client running on the same machine. Try running with -NOSTEAM on the cmdline to disable

[echo lintel]

I have a dedicated satisfactory server running on a linux server with 8v cores and 16GB ram. However, I tried increasing the bandwidth in the .ini config files in both client and server, setting the network quality to 3. However, the server still lags a lot with huge lagspikes. I checked my ubuntu server and the ram usage is around 2.6GB with no upper limit, the processing time is also set to the highest priority. But still, the server seems to run behind with only 2 players online. Is this normal or is this very unusual for an experimental server?

[spare orbit]

cpu usage?

[echo lintel]

In total, the usage together with all processes is only 20 ~ 40% with satisfactory consuming 173 %

[spare orbit]

also you running on the actual server is you rent a virtual one

[echo lintel]

I rent a virtual server

[spare orbit]

satisfactory is mostly single threaded, so when one caps, there is a problem

oh

[echo lintel]

But it should not be an issue since I hosted minecraft servers (one threaded) with no issues at all

[spare orbit]

satisfactory on a second gen epyc is a really bad combination

an 7282 is like what? like 3 ghz?

for a single threaded server, thats devastingly low

and when they then sell servers that are overthreaded, it gets even worse

[echo lintel]

You know that server CPU's are designed that way, with low single core performace with a lot of cores

[spare orbit]

not all

game servers are optimized for single core performance

you using an enterprice multithreading server for games

wont work for gaming nor is designed fo that

[echo lintel]

Mhhh

You're making a good point

[spare orbit]

i just suspect the single core performance is just too low

and you cant tell, if they sell more threads than the server has. quite some shady companies do that

so like the cpu being 16/32 and they just sell 64 and hope that at most half of them run at max

when more max their part, performance will fall quite hard

[shell python]

I don't know much about server CPUs, but yeah, that performance isn't that good ...

[spare orbit]

uh, let me see on what we run our satisfactory server atm

[echo lintel]

But let's be honest, 3.2 GHz for a single core should be enough to keep up with a satisfactory server for 2 players in my opinion

[spare orbit]

3.2 single core is really low

[echo lintel]

What is the average for a server?

[spare orbit]

especially for one of the most complex games existing

[echo lintel]

System Requirements For Running A Dedicated Server In Satisfactory
OS: Windows 10 or later (64-bit)
Processor: i5-3570 3.4 GHz 4 Core.
Memory: 8 GB RAM.

[shell python]

3.4GHz is the recommendation/requirement

Yeah

[spare orbit]

and the 3.4 is the sold base, not the boost

your epyc has 2.8 base

the 3.4 recommendation is in practise like 3.8 or so

[echo lintel]

But yea, talking about CPU's ain't gonna fix the problem.

What can I do software wise to resolve the problem as much as possible?

[spare orbit]

we are running our satisfactory on a server with 8 asigned threads of 4.6 ghz

and i think 40 gb ram

[spare orbit]

can you run htop or similar?

[shell python]

Bruh do you even use 25% of that?

[echo lintel]

8 assigned threads? Why is that? The server is single core core right?

[spare orbit]

its virtualized

the vm just has 8 of the threads

[spare orbit]

the vm is for steam games, and other games or minecraft can use that

just satisfactory doesnt use much

[spare orbit]

is that idle or are players playing?

[echo lintel]

2 players online

during chunk loading

or traveling

whatever you wanna call it

[spare orbit]

doesnt look that bad atm.

ah, well

[echo lintel]

That is weird

How can there be so much difference

[spare orbit]

i guess no one is only atm, let me check

thats what maploading looks like

[echo lintel]

100% cpu usage

core*

Okay, well are you running it on a VPS or a dedicated server?

[spare orbit]

yeah, the game is single threaded, so the faster it is, the faster it loads a save

well, its our server, but we virtualize it

[echo lintel]

Ah I see

And are you using a desktop or a server?

[spare orbit]

because we use stuff fir different hings and we dont want a game server crashing everything

actual datacenter

[echo lintel]

Aight

Mmmmhh

[spare orbit]

thats with people playing

[echo lintel]

Damn, that is brutal

For a high end cpu

[spare orbit]

im not sure, what the colors mean actually

[echo lintel]

No shit the Epyc isn't keeping up

[spare orbit]

this partitial server runs on a 8700 going for power efficiency

[echo lintel]

Lmao

8th gen?

Ngl, the old ones are still strong af

[spare orbit]

desktop hardware is quite good for most server workloads

especially games

[echo lintel]

Yup games especially

But server tasks not so much

[spare orbit]

only need the large enterprise ones when you have exteme parallelism and need much throughput

yeah, i have an "actual" server here at home

[echo lintel]

At home? I thought you meant datacenter

[spare orbit]

and tested it for stuff like games, its really bad with that

no, this one is in a datacenter

i have more than this one

[echo lintel]

Do you rent a phsyical space there?

[spare orbit]

no, the full server. its easier and i dont need to replace broken parts

the server here at home is bought

[echo lintel]

True, but I have no clue how you do that.

Got no experience with datacenters

[spare orbit]

works basically the same as with virtual servers

[echo lintel]

I meant like do you rent it from a company?

[spare orbit]

you rent it, they give you ip and login data for an ssh connection

just that you get the whole hardware

[echo lintel]

Ohh, just a dedicated server or a private contract?

[spare orbit]

dedicated is way cheaper

private contract is oof

[echo lintel]

I assume you have a dedicated

[spare orbit]

i tried to get my server here from home in the local datacenter. it costs so much and still need to pay for electricity, wasnt woth it

[hot flax]

The server me and a friend got kind of for satisfactory has a 12400, I think that's good enough to last

[echo lintel]

How much do you pay for the dedicated server?

[echo lintel]

Fuck me, are you building china industry?

[hot flax]

wha

[echo lintel]

In satisfactory

With 12400k you can run the entire industry of china

[hot flax]

The mugs we get are enough, we don't need more things to hold coffee in :^)

[echo lintel]

Anyway, how much do you spend for the server Nachtnebel

[hot flax]

Dumb jokes aside, it's a mid-range cpu so I don't think it's that amazing :V

[spare orbit]

well, its hard to tell what part of that is for satisfactory. since we pay for additional ips etc
the main server is around 50 € per month.
thats actually liteally just the electricity it would cost to run at home. so hardware and internet is basically free.
its a i7-8700 with 64 gb ram, 16 tb storage and symmetrical gigabit

[echo lintel]

Damn

[hot flax]

that sounds about right for a server

[echo lintel]

That is a steal

[hot flax]

like, renting one

[echo lintel]

Here we pay around 120 a month for those specs

[spare orbit]

well, the contract is a bit older and we only got some price ajustment. idk what they cost atm

it was 30 before though

[echo lintel]

Not much higher I assume, but are you using the server for money making purposes?

Or just experimenting and gaming?

[spare orbit]

its to run some of our online stuff like a cloud etc. though it makes no money

[echo lintel]

Ah okay

Well, it is fun to do, 50 bucks well spent

You learn so much from this

[spare orbit]

cheapest atm is this
probably enough for satisfactory

[echo lintel]

Lmaooo

[hot flax]

Yeah that should run satisfactory just fine

[echo lintel]

Why are german servers so cheap

I host at Contabo

Which is german

[hot flax]

those were some days though, when the high-end was a 4/8 CPU

[short swallow]

I'm hosting on my own hardware, Linux container on a Ryzen 5 3600, it usually 1 thread at less than 100% and a few gigs of ram at most

But we're not so far and only 2 players up to date

Might get worse with more players or crazyer fabs

[spare orbit]

quite buffed servers still cheap tbh

[echo lintel]

Well

The fact that it is newer tech doesn't mean it should cost so much

[spare orbit]

going for ram

[hot flax]

Yeah that's reasonable for a 5950x, 128gb of ram and 8TB storage

[echo lintel]

Bru

[spare orbit]

24/48 server

but well, 2 ghz

[hot flax]

I wouldn't pay for that but that's because I don't have a usecase for it

[echo lintel]

Cheap af

[spare orbit]

i got the server here at home just for experimenting, though i still need to buy new ram one day

but 768 gb isnt that cheap

[hot flax]

Yeah, honestly lmao

[echo lintel]

Anyway, thanks for your help Nachtnebel

[hot flax]

Right, back to work I go

[spare orbit]

just configured something "similar"

2x Intel® Xeon® Gold 6438Y+
so 64/128 cpu, 1024 gb ram, 1 tb + 2x4 tb datacenter ssd

my home server has 4 xeons and 80 cores. its hileriously bad with games though

[short swallow]

mine is already pretty bored with anything I throw at it 😄

[spare orbit]

cant neofetch it, its off. only run it when i need it. 700 watts idle is a damn statement

[short swallow]

only when running sims for uni I really wish I had more perf... my software scales pretty linearly to a few hundred threads (known), probably more

that would really cut computation time. but requesting access on the institute cluster is just too much of a hassle xD

[hot flax]

what kind of workload?

[short swallow]

ouch lol

I'm at ~30-35

with all services running but in idle

[spare orbit]

well, you have a ryzen 3600, not 4 large xeons xD

[short swallow]

yeah xD

aspeed BMC is a power hog

[spare orbit]

i think a single fan surpasses the ryzen in power usage

[short swallow]

chews almost more power than the ryzen in idle

[hot flax]

probably lmao

[spare orbit]

8000 rpm fan with around 55-60 watts iirc

and 4 of them

so like 200+ watts for just fans

only using when really needing the amount of threads xD

[hot flax]

200 watts for just fans, jebus

What kind of units are in your server then

[spare orbit]

hm?

what you mean with units

[hot flax]

the type of fans :V

[spare orbit]

idk, proprietary ones specifically for the server

[hot flax]

Sorry, I just took a break from documenting the worst code ever so my brain is mush

[spare orbit]

are some hotswap fans with special mounting

so no cables or so, just pull them out

small 90 mm 8000 rpm ones

[hot flax]

Those'll make some noise

[spare orbit]

that is an older version of it, should have similar fans i guess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Paq1KHizes

at leasts sounds similar, though a bit quiet in video compared to reality

but yeah, also deltas similar to these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndpqBNibRH4&t=87s

they are fun. they blow more air in one minute through the server than my whole room has

[spare orbit]

^noise

[hot flax]

much noise

[echo lintel]

Does anyone knows how to set the autosave interval on a dedicated server?

Both the command and the mFloatValue does not seem to work

Instead, an autosave is created every 60 seconds apparently

[spare orbit]

wanted to link to the wiki, but it seems broken

[echo lintel]

The wiki is not correct anymore

[spare orbit]

it is

[echo lintel]

You mean when they recommend to execute the FG.AutoInterval 3 command?

Because I've tried that with zero success

[spare orbit]

i can tell what the wiki says when it actually loads and isnt broken anymore

but whatever it said, it worked flawless for us

[echo lintel]

This is what you mean?

[spare orbit]

when thats what the wiki says. we used whatever the wiki said and also change our amount of saves

doing 20 saves, one every 3 minutes

[echo lintel]

Here you have it

[spare orbit]

ingame, not this console

[echo lintel]

In game?

[spare orbit]

ingame

[echo lintel]

holdup

The wiki says otherwise

[spare orbit]

i never used that one

[spare orbit]

always the one ingame

let me test again

[echo lintel]

This is performed in game

[spare orbit]

no, thats in menu

not ingame

[echo lintel]

You mean like the chat?

[spare orbit]

no, the console

[echo lintel]

The linux console screen you mean?

[spare orbit]

this one

[echo lintel]

How do you open that one?

[spare orbit]

for me its f6 because i set that in config

[echo lintel]

Mmmh, not in the keybinds

[spare orbit]

ConsoleKeys=F6
in the input.ini

though could be, that they broke that in the last version. we sat tha a bit ago

[echo lintel]

Do I have to set the files to readonly mode?

[spare orbit]

not your input

[echo lintel]

Because F6 key does not work at all

[spare orbit]

you didnt write it correctly

[echo lintel]

Better yet, I copied it from the wiki

[spare orbit]

the u7 or u8 one?

[echo lintel]

Uhm, are there two different wikis?

OH wait, the new

I remember

[spare orbit]

they literally show the difference

[echo lintel]

Lmao, copied the wrong one

The console does not show FG.Interval as an option

Are you running experimental version?

[spare orbit]

since day one

[limber gazelle]

Thanks for the tip, I will slow down 😎. Also the snap checking works wonders

[echo lintel]

Can you send me your config file where the autointerval is set?

[spare orbit]

it isnt in any

so you cant manually set it

[proven carbon]

` is usually the open console button

[spare orbit]

but that oesnt exist on many keyboards

[proven carbon]

Oh you found it

Was backreading

[proven carbon]

But that's the default key for most veinminer mods in minecraft

[spare orbit]

so it breaks for most europeans?

nice

[proven carbon]

Glad I could help!

Hold on what's your keyboard layout? Because I google EU keyboard and get

Which matches mine

[spare orbit]

thats just english one

[proven carbon]

ANSI and ISO have `/~ in the same place, how many kb layouts are there?

[spare orbit]

we have this

[proven carbon]

Is that not it?

[spare orbit]

yeah, but it needs shift and games dont accept shift+´ as `

the it doesnt exist

because ` counts as shift+´

[proven carbon]

weird, most engines I know use ` for open console

Rust uses F1 though

[spare orbit]

when lucky, they only use the number of the key

then ^ works

when they use the actual smbol, it wont

[proven carbon]

I guess I'm lucky with a keyboard where every button can be 4 buttons

(Partially pressed, fully pressed, partially released, fully released)

[eternal siren]

Fn, shift and the key. I’m pretty sure the console key is the one above tab though. Could be wrong.

[edgy hornet]

So uhm, update broke my server, time to figure out how to disable the new and wonderful DLSS features?

LogLinux: Warning: MessageBox: Plugin 'DLSS' failed to load because module 'DLSSBlueprint' could not be found.  Please ensure the plugin is properly installed, otherwise consider disabling the plugin for this project.: Message: No available video device:
Message dialog closed, result: Cancel, title: Message, text: Plugin 'DLSS' failed to load because module 'DLSSBlueprint' could not be found.  Please ensure the plugin is properly installed, otherwise consider disabling the plugin for this project.
LogCore: Engine exit requested (reason: EngineExit() was called)

[iron scarab]

is the new update for expermental out for dedicated servers? my server will not update!

[pale jackal]

^ Oh I think I just asked about this in the wron channel - but I'm having the same issue. dedicated server, experimental branch will only pull build 247234 from steamcmd update. the client is pulling 247367. seems like the dedicated server version available via steamcmd update is not yet the same/current to the client version patch this morning.

[golden roost]

due to some backend issues the CL version for the Linux dedicated servers build doesn't match at the moment. We'll need to redo the build to fix the issue. Windows version is correct and uploaded tho!

[iron scarab]

is there an eta on that Snutt?

[golden roost]

we're at the hands of build/backend gods

so no :3

[iron scarab]

ok.. all good.. thanks for your reply.

[golden roost]

as soon as we can

[pale jackal]

❤️ Thanks for letting us know. No pressure, try not to think of the wasted experimental production, it'll keep you up at night.

I should say, it's the same for windows server build as well on the experimental branch. (you'd mentioned linux). ty again!

[golden roost]

that one is updated but for some reason it takes time for some people before steam updates

this happens every update

nothing we can do about that :3

[pale jackal]

probably the cdn doing its thing, will check in 30 mins and see if it's comingh through, thanks again!

[lyric marten]

I believe I'm having the same issue with my server. I have the same logs, but it's hard to tell if that is the exact cause of my crash.

[edgy hornet]

well, as ppl said above there is a version mismatch so lets hope it solves it

[obsidian belfry]

same version mismatch for our server - on windows

[smoky hatch]

same at us

[obsidian belfry]

steamcmd server for you too?

[smoky hatch]

yes air

sir

[vagrant crypt]

Same here. I tried throught the Steam GUI and via SteamCMD, no dice.

[obsidian belfry]

any way to downgrade the client maybe?

[vagrant crypt]

I don't think so.

[obsidian belfry]

Game version: 247367
Server Version: 247234

[obsidian belfry]

😢

[vagrant crypt]

Oddly enough Steam did download something when I tried about 30 mins ago, but thats where we stand for now.

Ah, no links, ok... so go google how to downgrade Steam games

[modern echo]

Hi all, new here - having the excact same issue ... I guess we'll have to wait for a server update.

[obsidian belfry]

windows or linux?

[modern echo]

windows

[vagrant crypt]

Just did a SteamCMD update and it's downloading something.

[obsidian belfry]

@golden roost already mentioned above - no ETR

[obsidian belfry]

cool, let us know please

[wary cosmos]

my server crashes now also after running update right now

[vagrant crypt]

Worked

[golden roost]

if you're on windows the build is uploaded it's something with steam's distribution that takes time for some people. Linux build is in the works.

[unborn idol]

Thanks for the updates!

[obsidian belfry]

thank you for clarifying

[edgy hornet]

5.1.1-247367+++FactoryGame+rel-main-0.8.0 1008 3
logs this line but crashing, is there still a new build in the pipeline?

[golden roost]

people running into mismatch for dedicated servers happens every single patch we do. nothing we can do it's all up to steam. :3

it'll download eventually

[edgy hornet]

🤞

[vagrant crypt]

Apparenly I'm downloading from the Chicago server.

*downloaded

[obsidian belfry]

windows steamcdm server works now

[wary cosmos]

LogInit: Warning: Could not initialize SDL: No available video device
LogLinux: Warning: MessageBox: Plugin 'DLSS' failed to load because module 'DLSSBlueprint' could not be found. Please en....

[obsidian belfry]

@golden roost fyi

[wary cosmos]

on linux dedicated not it seems

[edgy hornet]

it'd be lowkey hilarious if it crashed because it wanted to display a messagebox

[vagrant crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-zen-meditation-gif-13277341

It will come

[pale jackal]

also confirming windows dedicated exp and client versions now match - let's gooooo.

good luck linux bros.

[lyric marten]

hmm linux is still crashing on launch 😦

[lyric marten]

ah, you're already ahead of me lol

I'm impressed with the devs response time to an experimental branch though. This is my first time playing through the game 🙂

[lost robin]

Yep, the issue with versions should already be fixed

[wary cosmos]

same here . linux dedicated borked at moment 😭

[sturdy gust]

That'd explain the GitHub issue for my Docker image 😛 Eagerly awaiting the fix for Linux! 🙂

[lyric marten]

There is another update available, trying it now on Linux

[rough river]

G-portal works

[sturdy gust]

Just tried, no luck yet

[lyric marten]

indeed 😦

[compact rapids]

Where did you go to see the update available for linux? Just showed in Steam for you?

[vast marten]

I just run the install command every few days and see if it downloads something

[lyric marten]

I just ran the install command again to see if there was an update lol

[compact rapids]

LOL gotcha, so no official git hub or something to see a version increment.

Success! App '1690800' fully installed.
Project file not found: /config/gamefiles/FactoryGame/FactoryGame.uproject
5.1.1-247367+++FactoryGame+rel-main-0.8.0 1008 3

That's where I'm at for the moment.

[vast marten]

For me, I get a ton of output, some "exiting abnormally", assertion failed... a few "signal 6 caught"... and then it just stays there. Can't even Ctrl+C, need to kill -9 it from another terminal.

[compact rapids]

Yeah that is the same for me. It seems to be around the DLSS note that Hurrycane posted.

[compact rapids]

Are you fixing this? or what? Hurry up! chop chop!! LOL

[vast marten]

LogInit: Warning: Could not initialize SDL: No available video device
I could put that old GTX 760 into my server and try if it solves the issue 😄 😄

[inland sequoia]

Hi everyone I have this error, anyone know where it comes from?

and voice my config

OS: DEBIAN 12
CPU: 2x Xeon CPU E5-2620 2GHz
RAM: 88 GB
GPU: None

[plain shoal]

i have the same issue

[inland sequoia]

Bruhhh

[compact rapids]

Yes this is the same issue being discussed.

[compact rapids]

Further up that log file, you'll see the same message about no monitor and DLSS failing to load.

"Plugin 'DLSS' failed to load because module 'DLSSBlueprint' could not be found. Please ensure the plugin is properly installed, otherwise consider disabling the plugin for this project."

[inland sequoia]

How can I do that? Can I disable it in the engine.ini?

[plain shoal]

And we can do anything like disable some thing or something’s else ?

[compact rapids]

Based on Bitz's stream this morning, he had an issue where he has a "duplicated display" going off to his capture computer. Because the game PC wasn't seeing the monitor there on the other end, it wouldn't load the new patch... He had to set his system to single monitor load the game and then it worked. I suspect this is something similar as the servers are basically headless

[plain shoal]

Like a undo update in the last before this one

[compact rapids]

The monitor continued to work after he reset it to the duplicated display.

[echo lintel]

MystereFire, how are you able to run the server on 2x Xeon CPU E5-2620 2GHz with only 2.5 max turbo clock?

[compact rapids]

I'm not aware of anyway to "revert" to 0.8.0.0 once you've been pushed forward...you can revert to the Update 7 stuff but then your save game might bork.

[plain shoal]

Not on the 7 juste the latest patch before this one who ad bug on the v8 experimental

[compact rapids]

That's basically the same Processor I use. It has a few display glitchs when looking at belts but the rest all works just fine. Rendering happens client side for most of it so the RAM is more important.

[plain shoal]

I’m using a i7 12700k with 32gig of ddr5 and it’s still the same

[echo lintel]

Wait, you're running a dedicated server?

[lyric marten]

oh wait you can revert a save back to Update 7? I didn't think this was possible.

[compact rapids]

Yup. You are getting the same issues running locally?

[plain shoal]

I thinks you will have some errors

[inland sequoia]

personally the server runs under docker

[plain shoal]

Like new building or something else

[compact rapids]

You can but your save game would be Update 8 and you'd bork things if you took that back to update 7.

[compact rapids]

You will if you use your current save game but if you just want to get back to playable...you have to wait for a patch, or reload an old Update 7 Save

[echo lintel]

No no, I was more curious about the lag I receive when running the server on a AMD EPYC 7282 2.8GHZ compared to a E5-2620 2GHz

[plain shoal]

Yeah exactly

[echo lintel]

How are you able to run without lag when the clockspeed is significantly lower for single core performance>?

[plain shoal]

This is not the same power in the cpu

[plain shoal]

I think most of the things are one ram, and once it’s one, there are no more than 2,5 billions of operation in the game

[compact rapids]

Gotcha. Yeah I use that Processor on my dedicated server. On my PC I'm i7 12700K

[echo lintel]

What do you mean?

Because I have enough ram available but the CPU seems to struggle

[inland sequoia]

How much tickrate do you run the server at?

[echo lintel]

Default

[compact rapids]

I've have to check. I'm default I think. that wasn't one of the performance fixes I put in place.

[inland sequoia]

30 ?

[echo lintel]

Yes

[inland sequoia]

I run it at 120 but I don't know if that's too much.

[compact rapids]

Yeah. I had some corruption moving from Update 7 to 8 on my gamefile from removing a bunch of boxes on SSatisfactory Calculator. Since I started fresh on Update 8, I'm almosst to the same state I was in on update 7 and it's smooth as a babies butt 🙂

[plain shoal]

Îm at 40 because my server crash too many times with only 30

[echo lintel]

But how, because that doesn't answer my question why my server running on an AMD Epyc is struggling while yours isn't

[echo lintel]

Lmao, I will try that. Thanks

[compact rapids]

120 seems high but all that means is that your PC to the server updating your position and such will just be less frequent from my understanding. Might mean if you had a crash you are going back quite a bit further once you log back in.

[plain shoal]

Yeah but too high can cause roll back nah ?

[compact rapids]

I assume most of Coffee Stain is asleep at this point to it might be tomorrow or really late at night before we see a patch.

[compact rapids]

Yeah basically you'd be going back that 120 seconds worth of work that the Server hadn't recieved yet. It also means your client is buffering that extra time until it sends to more resource drain on your gaming machine

[plain shoal]

They cannot literally roll back to the last patch ?

[plain shoal]

So you can lose fps ?

[compact rapids]

Not if they are sleeping lol

[inland sequoia]

Go download server backup and play solo

[compact rapids]

Depends on how they are buffering that. It might be chewing up RAM or HDD so might be a slight hit to FPS it's best to just increment small bits like 30-40 see that that works then 40-50 if it's still a problem etc.

[compact rapids]

That's not a horrible option...

[plain shoal]

Yeahh

He’s right

My pc can easily turn the game as server for me and my friend

[echo lintel]

Is it recommended to change the tick speed of the game to 20 if I experience lot's of lagspike with 30/

[compact rapids]

I'd assume they have a reason for the recommendation to be 30 at the start. I would assume if your Server and PC are powerful enough, moving to 25 or 20 would be good. You'll need to judge thee performance yourself and adjust as feel it's better or worse experience. Gotta remember too that users outside your house will also be hit with that setting so while it might be good for you locally in the same room as your server, it might not be good for your buddies 🙂

[echo lintel]

Wait, the higher the tickspeed the more performance is requires right? Or is this reversed?

[edgy hornet]

For me it just got rewritten into the engine.ini

[compact rapids]

It's "Where you want the performance hit" if you want to push it to the PC then higher number... If you want to push the performance hit to the server, then lower number.

[compact rapids]

Where do you see it in there? I'm not finding it in mine...

[echo lintel]

So you're saying that if I increase it to 40, the load on the server's CPU will decrease compared to the 30?

What is your tickspeed value then?

[edgy hornet]

its appended to Core.System

cat ./satisfactory/FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/Engine.ini
[Core.System]
...
Paths=../../../FactoryGame/Plugins/DLSS/Content
Paths=../../../FactoryGame/Plugins/XeSS/Content

:)

[compact rapids]

Bah! No one posted in the QA site about this one yet. We've just been talking about it in here! LOL I put in a bug post.

Ahh thanks for that. I'll go look closer and see if diabling that in the ini get's me past the issue.

[compact rapids]

Hmmm under docker the engine.ini looks a lot different.

No Core System Section.

[edgy hornet]

would be fun if u were investigating the live version 😉

i mean, it shouldnt really be an issue tho, should fail gracefully and just not use these features, kinda sad that it really just tries to display a messagebox, then ends in an SIGABORT, completely just creating a dead process for me that i need to kill from another ssh, i'd love to investigate it with a gpu but i rent the server for a reason

[compact rapids]

Yeah for sure LOL I have my server local but no GPU in the server at all beyond the onboard GPU.

[echo lintel]

Is there a temporary fix to get stuff running for now?

[edgy hornet]

grab the save and continue locally for the time being, i cant seem to yank the DLSS out without breaking it

[echo lintel]

Aight, thanks for the rip

What tickspeed do you have for your server btw?

[compact rapids]

Everyone is bascally using 30. Some have moved to 40 or 120, but based on what that does it puts a lot more load on your Local PC. So it's really up to you what works best between your server specs and your PC/any others you have logging into your servers specs...

The higher you put it, the more it puts the effort towards the Clients... The Lower it is, the more it puts the pressure on the server.

[echo lintel]

Got it, and does every client need to set the tickspeed as well?

[compact rapids]

It helps for the Client to be set similar to the server but as long as the clients tick below the servers, you shouldn't time out.

That's just my understanding of it and I've not had any issues doing it this way in my setup, so if someone more technical has a different answer, please speak up lol

@sturdy gust - https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/64e628f187a1e63b6ceea448 on the QA site for the Dedicated Server Issue. Please upvote if you are having the issues as well.

They cleared off the first linux ticket this morning already with a small patch.

[ornate crater]

Hello, I just joined, hopefully this is the correct channel. I have a dedicated server setup on windows with steamcmd. I want to allow more players than 4. The only folder I have inside appdata is FactoryGame > Saved > SaveGames > server... I dont know where to change the config. I see a file ServerSettings.15777 but I cannot read it with notepad.

I dont have the WindowsNoEditor folder I read about. I have hidden files enabled..

[compact rapids]

game.ini ^-----

[ornate crater]

Yes I dont have that Config folder inside Saved

[echo lintel]

Mmmh, try opening cmd and typing tree {folder}

This will show you all the subfolders with their files

[ornate crater]

Im not on linux either. I tried copyying the %appdata% etc but windows says it cannot find that folder..

[echo lintel]

This is a windows command

[ornate crater]

allright hold on

[compact rapids]

Do a search for game.ini in your appdata/local/factorygame folder. There will be a few of them but you want the one in the server part of the folder structure

[echo lintel]

Have you even started the server?

[compact rapids]

Yeah there should be a lot more folders in there

[ornate crater]

Yes, the server is running, we have hours on it with 4 players. 5th cannot join rn

[echo lintel]

AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\Config

This is my path at least

[ornate crater]

I found it!...

I installed it with steamcmd, it's inside steamcmd/steamapps/common/satisfactorydedicatedserver etc

[compact rapids]

Yeah was just getting my Windows path from my other machine. I'm pretty sure there's a lot more files in there...

[ornate crater]

Everywhere on internet they talk about appdata, but its just inside the install folder of the game itself from steamcmd...

[echo lintel]

lmao

problem solved

[ornate crater]

Thanks guys!

[compact rapids]

There you go 🙂

[ornate crater]

I just need to add it in front of all this right?

[/Script/Engine.GameNetworkManager]
TotalNetBandwidth=500000
MaxDynamicBandwidth=120000
MinDynamicBandwidth=100000

[compact rapids]

That' looks better!

[ornate crater]

[/Script/Engine.GameSession]
MaxPlayers=16
[/Script/Engine.GameNetworkManager]
TotalNetBandwidth=500000
MaxDynamicBandwidth=120000
MinDynamicBandwidth=100000

[echo lintel]

Yeah, I would upscale it if I were you

More than four players might require higher bandwith config

[ornate crater]

What should I enter, I have fiber internet 1000 up and down

[echo lintel]

[/Script/Engine.GameNetworkManager]
TotalNetBandwidth=104857600
MaxDynamicBandwidth=104857600
MinDynamicBandwidth=10485760

[NetworkQuality@3]
TotalNetBandwidth=104857600
MaxDynamicBandwidth=104857600
MinDynamicBandwidth=10485760

[/Script/Engine.Player]
ConfiguredInternetSpeed=104857600
ConfiguredLanSpeed=104857600

[/Script/OnlineSubsystemUtils.IpNetDriver]
MaxClientRate=104857600
MaxInternetClientRate=104857600

[/Script/SocketSubsystemEpic.EpicNetDriver]
MaxClientRate=104857600
MaxInternetClientRate=104857600

[ornate crater]

I will play with 5 players probably

[compact rapids]

There is a wiki page with the performance tweaks for that file for multiplayer

[ornate crater]

Ahh okay

Ill look it up

[compact rapids]

D... just posted it 🙂

[ornate crater]

Yeh Ill try this

[compact rapids]

Nice

[wary cosmos]

hmm no workaround for dedi problem around

?

[echo lintel]

Nope

[compact rapids]

Not that we can find yet.

Tried disabling the DLSS in the ini's and just causes more grief than good. Others are just pulling save games local in the meantime

[wary cosmos]

hrngh ... i only play on my dedi .. no idea about SP 😛

damn it . hope for a fix thoon ...

[compact rapids]

Agreed 🙂

[echo lintel]

Mmmh, is there a satisfactory client for ubuntu or other distros?

[ornate crater]

Again, thanks guys, it worked

[echo lintel]

Because I see that the DLSS blueprint files are indeed present in the client window server.
So if there is, one could copy those and share them so we can add them

[sturdy gust]

Cheers for the tag. Seems like it's still an ongoing issue for everyone using Linux, no?

[compact rapids]

@sturdy gust There is a second thread as well with same issue. No notes or requests from the Dev's for updates or more logs at this time.

[sturdy gust]

Yeah, just seen. Guessing something went wrong with the Linux patch

Means a number of people will open issues for the Docker image that are out of my control 🤷‍♂️

Not the end of the world 😄

[compact rapids]

Yeah I suspect from the message everyone is seeing in the logs it's related to the DLSS and the fact the server is headless. It'll be a combo in there hopefully for sure

Yeah for sure 🙂

Thanks for being so responsive, your docker version has been fantastic

[sturdy gust]

More than happy to help where I can 😄 I'll keep an eye out for the update and will update the GitHub issue when it's live

[compact rapids]

I'll poke back in the github issue once I see something more

[wary cosmos]

i think they working on a dedi dfix .. but they have said dedi is after all in development :/

jace time off 🙂

[compact rapids]

LOL

[sturdy gust]

At least early access is still fine 🤷‍♂️

[compact rapids]

LOL Always a positive somewhere 🙂

[compact rapids]

Should just be a docker stop / start to trigger the new version download right? Nothing else I need to do for the game update?

[plain shoal]

you need to change the game version

[polar quartz]

Yup, SteamCMD checks for updates on every start - after you changed the branch to whatever you want to ofcourse

[compact rapids]

Kinda what I thought.

[compact rapids]

In the docker images, they do a steamcmd command to launch so it should be updating.

[plain shoal]

yeah but you need to change the option of beta/experimental true or false

[compact rapids]

Yeah for sure. That part I have set. Just making sure they hadn't dropped an update and somehow I was missing it LOL.

[plain shoal]

maybe you need to do a docker system prune -af
to make a new container start from nothing

[sturdy gust]

Yep, just a container restart

Unless you have SKIPUPDATE set to true

[vital jackal]

Is the DLSS problem solve?

or we have to wait?

[polar owl]

i think we have to wait.
I dont know anything about a fix right now.

[sweet whale]

im looking into ways to shoehorn dlss onto my linux box, perhaps the proton tricks might help

[compact rapids]

Still outstanding issue. Haven't been able to get it to boot at all.

It'll be interesting to see the fix and what caused it. everything seems to point to LazySingleton.h but no one from Coffeestain has chimed in on the QA Site bug report yet for that one.

[strong raft]

I haven't touched my linux ded server in a few months. So today I decided to update and play the game... what did I just walk into? lol

So no branches work at the moment?

I was using branch=experimental

[compact rapids]

Stable Branch is still fine. They just released an Experimental Branch Patch today that borked linux dedicated servers

[strong raft]

I removed branch="experimental" and deleted my serverfiles directory, then redownloaded, and I'm getting the same error

What is the branch for stable? I tried "stable" and it did not work

[hot mortar]

If you are using steamcmd you can do -beta public to get U7

(I would be surprised if a save file from U8 would work as-is though.)

[strong raft]

I'm using the linux game server manager, so I use branch="public" thank you! That worked.

No, I'm going to start over clean

[native wraith]

@sturdy gust Just wanted to drop in and say thanks. Me and 2 friends are playing on a dedicated server thats running on my dell R730xd, a little buggy but its not your problem. We appreciate it greatly.

[orchid sand]

Is there an ETA on when they are going to release a hotfix for the Linux headless servers?

[compact rapids]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/64e6244d87a1e63b6ceea43b

[marble berry]

did the patch help with dedicated server stability?

[compact rapids]

There weren't any specific fixes for dedicated servers in the patch notes. The fixes were for FPS client side.

[marble berry]

true. I mostly had client crashes. curious if they're any better with dedicated yet. trying to get into my server now...

client's claiming it's offline though

process is running. LGSM claims it's started

[compact rapids]

Not sure what branch you are on but there are issues with the Linux Dedicated Server on Experimental since the patch.

[marble berry]

yeah. linux dedicated experimental. odd. I'll dig through the logs.

[compact rapids]

The post I put in there just before you poked about the stability is a link to the bug on the QA site.

[marble berry]

is your process stopping or just hanging?

[compact rapids]

Just hanging.

[marble berry]

Message dialog closed, result: Ok, title: Message, text: Plugin 'DLSS' failed to load because module 'DLSSBlueprint' could not be found. Please ensure the plugin is properly installed, otherwise consider disabling the plugin for this project.^M
LogCore: Engine exit requested (reason: EngineExit() was called)^M
LogExit: Preparing to exit.^M

I see

[compact rapids]

Yup that's the one.

We all suspect its either a headless server issue or a dialog box that wasn't surpressed.

[marble berry]

alright. I guess I just wait longer. I was able to get into it before, but it crashed a lot so I was going to take a break from the game...

half-way through Act 2 of Baldur's Gate 3 (I think), so that should keep me busy.

[compact rapids]

Hopefully we'll see some action overnight here (it's 11:30pm where I am) and see if we have a solution in the morning 🙂

[mint junco]

This happens so frequently and continues to happen in v0.8.1.0 that I'm logging an entry on the QA site.
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/64e7025b87a1e63b6ceea573

[mint junco]

Another one
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/64e7025b87a1e63b6ceea573

[deep turret]

I dont think it have to do with any dialog, DLSS is not supposed to even need to load on dedicated server

it is not talking about rendering dlss, but about loading the module for it in the engine

the module is not present because dedicated server, but is still trying to load it

[mint junco]

Wait until fully unloaded does not release the train when it is empty.
Under update 8 I have confirmed that if the number of freight cars on the train does not match the number of freight platforms this happens every time.
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/648f392a87a1e63b6cee5806

[polar condor]

@golden roost when could we see a patch made for lynix servers as since the updat no lynix servers are working 🤔

[golden roost]

Working on it!

[polar owl]

@golden roost Any new information about the fix for experimental server?

[amber mesa]

I'm sure they'll post something as soon as they have it

[polar owl]

Yeah okay you are right ^^

[golden roost]

We're still investigating the issue for Linux servers so a little unclear when a fix can go out.

[golden roost]

We hope to have a fix out today in the best of worlds. 🤞

If we're lucky and nothing breaks during the build

[desert walrus]

I'll expect it next week

[golden roost]

Fair

[native wraith]

Ouch. Well I at least appreciate the work you guys are doing. Take your time and do it right. No need to rush. We will still be here.

[deep turret]

yep that's the kind of things were taking time to make it fine once is faster than trying to hot fix a hot fix

[dreamy talon]

⚰️ RIP dedicated servers are the only way to play this game with friends. My CPU shits itself if I try to run this completely local.

Thanks for being so present Snutt.

[edgy hornet]

nice jinx

[idle jay]

Paid for dedicated server today for experimental and have spent an hour trying to figure out what on earth was going on

This clears it up 😂

[polar owl]

Very unlucky, i am sorry for you and hope that they will get a fix tommorow.

[lyric marten]

That would drive me insane haha, very poor timing

[idle jay]

Yeah oh well

It's experimental for a reason isn't it

[polar owl]

Yeah it is.

And as every time, they do all they can to fix it.

[deep turret]

probably tomorrow/today then

[marble berry]

glad I don't pay for my server

[spare orbit]

yeah, we are also self hosting on a server we have anyway

[hot mortar]

This idea just feels wrong, but I wonder if the Windows dedicated server would run under Linux with Proton (or Wine, etc)

[amber mesa]

I believe someone else said that headless servers, in general, are not working

I could be mistaken though

[spare orbit]

our server has an integrated gpu and still cant find a gpu

[amber mesa]

I doubt it has anything to do with finding a GPU, I have a full GPU and see the same errors as everyone else. I suspect it's much more subtle than that, which is of course one of the many reasons it takes a hot minute to get a proper fix together.

[lyric marten]

I could be mistaken but I thought Windows Dedicated Servers were fixed

[amber mesa]

Oh perhaps, I've only been half paying attention

[compact rapids]

That make sense. I'm not a developer. I'm a hardware guy so I only get things half right most days. hahaha

[compact rapids]

Thanks for being on it! 🙂 I'll keep my eye's peeled for a fix 🙂

[lyric marten]

I'm legitemately trying to find out if I can run the windows version with Proton somehow lol

[sharp crane]

Anyone know if there is a resolution to Linux dedicated servers unable to boot game since update ~24 hours ago?

[amber mesa]

They are working on it

[crimson ember]

Snutt said they are working on a fix

[amber mesa]

They are very aware of the issue

[crimson ember]

this whole channel has been blowing up with impact reports all day lol

[sharp crane]

Sorry - apologies, just joined.

[crimson ember]

no apology needed

but you are in the right place to get updates on the issue

[sharp crane]

Definently feel for the team working to understand and debug this

[amber mesa]

It is about 1am my time. They started looking into it at about 6:30am this morning, again, my time

[sharp crane]

not happening in the next 6-8 hours i am guessing then.

and even thats just the start of day 2

[amber mesa]

I'm hoping they're in bed 🙂

[crimson ember]

likely tomorrow

[sharp crane]

Agree - as above

[crimson ember]

but coffee stain devs are one of the best crews out there so it shouldnt be long

[desert walrus]

Iirc their workday starts in a couple hours

[hot mortar]

I forwarded X to a Linux laptop (ssh -X <user@server-ip>) and tried running it with proton. I got a window asking me to install a C++ runtime. (screenshot attached)
After clicking "OK" it seems to be doing its thing. For this to be viable it would need to run in something like Xvfb so it would work without the X session connected remotely.
To install Proton I did this:

steamcmd \
    +@sSteamCmdForcePlatformType linux \
    +login anonymous \
    +app_update 1493710 \
    validate \
    +quit

Then to install the server I did:

steamcmd \
    +@sSteamCmdForcePlatformType windows \
    +login anonymous \
    +app_update 1690800 \
    -beta experimental \
    validate \
    +quit

This installs the Windows version of the server to ~/Steam/steamapps/common/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer and Proton to ~/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton\ -\ Experimental/proton.
Then you can do something like:

export STEAM_COMPAT_DATA_PATH=~/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/1690800
export STEAM_COMPAT_CLIENT_INSTALL_PATH=~/Steam/
mkdir -p "$STEAM_COMPAT_DATA_PATH"
alias proton="$HOME/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton\ -\ Experimental/proton"
cd ~/Steam/steamapps/common/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer
proton run ./FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended -DisablePacketRouting

Just in case this helps anyone. It would be nice if the server could be started without the X display attached. Maybe VNC could be set up for that.

FWIW, the server doesn't really work for me after doing these steps. It pops open a cmd.exe-like window on the X display and seems to be trying to work. But maybe someone can run with this and get further than I did.

[onyx goblet]

why is it that my Server (hosted by a big Online Hoster) doesnt allow me to connect with my Steam SF? as soon as i would claim the server, it disconnects me and typing and sending a name would crash my game essentially

[edgy hornet]

Currently experimental linux is broken so probably that

[onyx goblet]

im using the "stable" version right now

[sharp crane]

Have to ask - can you, have you seen, do you know about LGSM? makes hosting a Linux dedicated server so simple

[proven carbon]

That answers the question I was boutta ask

[hollow depot]

Look in Patch Notes Channel, they pushing the Update now

[narrow turret]

The new patch didn't help me, the error hasn't changed. 😭

[mint junco]

First login since the new patch
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/64e867bc87a1e63b6ceea6c6

Totally borked, second login failed also.

[hollow depot]

My Dedicated Server just updated and working

[mint junco]

And third login failed.
That's the end of that then for now.

[hollow depot]

My patch on pc is finished shortly

Connection also works for me

[mint junco]

How can they make it worse?
I had a great game yesterday.
The only bugfix in the patch was one I reported.
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/648de98087a1e63b6cee5231

I was able to expand stations at the heavy modular frame factory.
The frame rate was excellent and server performance acceptable in area for the first time since U8 released.
Of course if I moved area it all turned to crap but in an area <chefs kiss>
Today, it's a dumpter fire...

@golden roost help please.

[hollow depot]

Don´t know whats the difference between our version, but on my side it works @mint junco

[mint junco]

I've got 4500 hours in my build

Over 400 trains

[hollow depot]

thats not a difference lol?

[mint junco]

I think you'll find it's a factor given it was working yesterday.

CL#247801

[deep turret]

if you built around a performance behavior aspect of some locations in the game
and the other locations were very poor performance
you should expect the locations you play on to be very poor performance too someday
because they are patching and changing the per location loading/rendering of the game currently

[mint junco]

not a noob

I'm venting, not asking for feedback

[deep turret]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

the dedicated server was literally not loading on headless server
yesterday
so for us it is win win

[empty lichen]

can you send the whole callstack?

[royal pawn]

i have the same issue. linux dedicated has booted, but client crash on load. starting linux server with fresh game works fine....

[mint junco]

This @empty lichen?

[narrow turret]

It worked, I had to completely reinstall the server.
Thanks for the work, from all my friends.

[amber mesa]

@empty lichen Thanks to everyone there for the hard work. 🤗 A simple docker restart and allowing Steam to patch worked for me, almost as if it's what you were aiming to accomplish... 😃

[empty lichen]

can you send the save file too? so we can repo it

[mint junco]

Sure Ben, thank you.

[mint junco]

Yes I'm aware Linux was borked.
My windows server was unaffected and super duper yesterday.
I had a great session, tested the bugfix, found it was resolved and proceeded to start min-maxing factories in the Rocky Desert.

[empty lichen]

@whole meadow can you test once the build is done with the fix 🙂

[sharp crane]

I am getting much the same error, i loaded in fine to a linux ded server was running around but when i got in a train i became stuck in a infinite loop of loading, render train on tracks moving.. then crashes into a error like that - repeat!

[languid dome]

i guys, im having the same issue, cant enter de server, if i load the save in simgleplayer the save is fine, but on the server its like this 😦

[solid atlas]

i want to ask how to make a dedicated server from epic ?

does anyone done this ?

[sharp crane]

From Epic apps tore?

[narrow turret]

disable dlss, it helped me

[languid dome]

i mande from steam cmd

[languid dome]

Upscaling Method = None

i dont have it enabled

i made a fresh instal of the server and same problem

[solid atlas]

yub

says unable to resolve a host 😦

[short ruin]

Server is now running, but Game Crashes on Connection to server now

[languid dome]

ok now its giving this, anyone knows how to solve?

the server its on a diferent machone

[sharp crane]

I dont follow why epic - you mean like a pre built dedicated server package on Epic store?

[languid dome]

no, i downloaded steam cmd, and instal it from there

[sharp crane]

nice, got you.. so what are you looking to achive?

and with what reserrouces i guess

[languid dome]

loging in to the game, because the server is runing and when i try to loging, it crashes when the game is entering the world

[sharp crane]

Few suffering from that

i suspect the best optoiin is to wait, no need to make changes for what seems to be further bug testing to yesterdays problem

[languid dome]

i see now, i hope the fix come soon xD

[sharp crane]

for the past 24 hours my server was booted but invisbble crashed on load

today thats resolved but now i get many client windwos 10 crashes

lots of people seem to be experiancing a few hiccups currently devs likely hard at work reviewing

[languid dome]

i had problems but now big probles, had some client random crashes

[sharp crane]

my client crashes seem situation depentant

ie near a gas node i have crashed twice

i reload back and reload to server, i am in HUB and go to my body, repeat

[languid dome]

mine was random, and i had the explorer just showing de part were you put the fuel, and other can se the car, and we had several trucks just cliping on foundations and get stuck there

[languid dome]

when i had random crashes my body whent to void

[sharp crane]

basically same thning

[languid dome]

i will wait till the fix comes, love the game and the hard work that dev put on making it ❤️

[granite copper]

Yes the new update worked for me, so my son an I can continue on the last part 😄 Thanks

[vast marten]

Hey, I'm hoping somebody can help me. Since upgrading the dedicated server from U7 to U8, I can't connect to it anymore. This was already the case with the pre-vacation version. It's on a dedicated linux machine here at home (ubuntu 20.04) which serves also many other applications. I'm connecting with the local IPv4 (as dyndns didn't work, even with the U7 server). Server is completely on default settings and not dockerized - so not bound to a specific IP. Connecting from laptop or desktop times out. In the log of the server I see "Opening a new route from '[::ffff:192.168.0.84]:35618' to '[::1]:15000'" and then later ".....hasn't been used in a while closing". -- both IPv4 and IPv6 are active in my home network....

[languid dome]

i think there was a problem with the linux server and this update fix that for linux servers

[short ruin]

In Steamdeck the Game Crashes on Server Connection, in PC everything is working with my dedicated Linux Server, any ideas, already did a File integry check

[solid atlas]

guys i have dont making the server

but my friends can not join me can you help ?

[solid atlas]

done

i wont turn into friends only

[zinc sable]

Unable to connect to friends multiplayer server, loads past the loading screen, momentarily shows the ficsit banner and then crashes to desktop
Works when i go into single player,

Platform: PC (Steam)
Version: 0.8.1.1 Build 247801

OS: Windows 11 (All updated via Windows Update)
GPU: AMD Radeon 6900 XT (Up to date driver as of writing in AMD Adrenaline)

I've tried so far
Signed out of Epic Online in the game menu and relinked (as friend is playing/hosting game via epic version of the game)
Verified game integrity on steam
Tried Vulkan, DX11, DX12 (all fail)
Modified Graphical Settings to all low
Deleted DirectX Shader Cache via Disk Cleanup

Error Message when CTD:

[hardy glade]

^I am the aforementioned friend. When he crashes, I get this

[hardy glade]

To clarify, we've played together before this most recent update in experimental for update 8 - nothing has changed with my config on the network side

[deep turret]

the game platform links does not change anything to connect with dedicated servers as dedicated servers are completely platform agnostic and are not themselves connected with any user account

[hardy glade]

Ah, so we may have made a mistake here - can this space be used to discuss a direct connect?

[zinc sable]

apologies, i couldnt see multiplayer troubleshooting for experimental

[unreal holly]

getting the same thing as you

[deep turret]

if it's not about the standalone dedicated server software
then you can talk about it in #satisfactory-experimental I guess
if you are not installing and configuring a dedicated server software that runs in command-line mode
then you are not using a dedicated server, you are using the multi-player hosting capability of the bare game that let your friends join your game while you play it on your pc
(I know you probably know how this part works, but I insist on the details to emphasize the difference with using a dedicated server)

[zinc sable]

cool, thanks

[deep turret]

it was confusing because dedicated servers also experience client crash on connection sometimes

[deep turret]

to makes things simpler in practice :
if you use [join] to connect to the game, then it is bare game multi-player
if you use [server-manager]|(selected-server)|[connect] to connect to the game, it is using a dedicated server

[zinc sable]

I'm aware, thanks. I just posted in the wrong channel

all corrected now

[deep turret]

don't worry, I always like to detail a lot because I assume some other people could be reading and need these informations

[proven carbon]

deactivate IPv6 I know that was one of the issues I had

[vast marten]

thanks, I will try binding it to the v4 address, can't switch of v6 for the computers, but maybe this helps

[proven carbon]

I'm pretty sure the problem is that the server tries to bind to an IPv6 anyway, so you just need to not give it the chance

Disabling IPv6 on my SteamDeck for my network worked

[unreal holly]

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x0000000000000028

ever time i join a server im now getting this. would there be any reasion

[edgy hornet]

getting the same crash when i wondered towards a part of the factory with signs, cool

[desert walrus]

Multiplayer is currently broken with signs

Yall should upvote on the qa site

[deep turret]

is it me or the latest release is even more ram optimised

[umbral wave]

How much so if you don't mind me asking?

[pale jackal]

I have the 'crash on load' issue too after today's update, make it to the HUDOS banner and it dumps every time. Server seems to be running fine and so does unreal server. Just can't connect with client without the client crashing.

save us snutt!!

[lyric marten]

I was running the dedicated experimental server on a machine with only 8gb of a RAM before I realized the server requires at least 12 haha.

[pale jackal]

16 gb ram is very nice

for dedicated, at least I've found no issues at 16

[deep turret]

it was running at 8GB for me last time I checked, here I tested it at 3.5 or something

[echo lintel]

The EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION 0x0000000000000028 is caused by the signs, you can either load the world in https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map and remove all the signs (with the tools) or download the save and remove the signs manually in game and the reupload the saved world.

[pale jackal]

if I had to delete every sign in my world, it would be.... inconvenient...

[echo lintel]

Then simply wait patiently for the fix

[still ibex]

16GB can not quite be enough sometimes, my save isn't near as complex as some but I've seen north of 20GB pretty often, I just rebooted the host server and it pretty much starts out at 16+

[pale jackal]

yeah may do - another question if anyone knows. where are the 'autosave' game files located? I'm checking the usual spot (windows server)- %userdataa%\appdata\local\factorygame\saved - but since the last update there is nothing in there.

I can, however select from the 'autosaves' in the server manager UI and it lists the last 3-4 autosaves.

Trying to locate those so I can copy it - since I'm nervous about the crashes now and can't located the saves in the normal directory. Did this change? Or is something wonky?

[echo lintel]

Correct

It is stored in the steam installation folder if I recall correctly

[pale jackal]

bless you, found it.

windows\system32\config\systemprofile\appdata\local\factorygame\saved... if anyone cares 😉

[deep turret]

wtfh is it doing in system32 ? is that in your steam folder ?

[pale jackal]

I installed it as a service on my server so it auto-restarts and manages itself

so it saves in system32\config like it's a service, 'cause it is

I used NSSM to do it if you're interested

[deep turret]

oh, then it does store in %userprofile%\AppData \etc...
it's just your service %userprofile%\AppData is Windows\System32\config\profile\appdata

[still ibex]

can you setup docker on your windows server? that might be easier... that's a really dumb place to save game files lol

[pale jackal]

^^

yes, but sharklein's post made me think to check there when he mentioned the steam install folder ('cause I don't have steam installed), so it dawned on me, it's probably not in the userdata folder, it's probably in some windows folder... it was...

[deep turret]

it was not me it was Daniel's post

[pale jackal]

oh, daniel, bless you too lol

ok so now I have my saves backed up, and I need to wait for a fix.... what to do....

[still ibex]

you can run the files locally then when you're done upload the save to the server and fire it up to run while you're away

[pale jackal]

not even the dumbest thing I've done this morning bruh

[deep turret]

it will probably land very soon, for 2 reasons :

1. it also affect bare game multiplayer feature (priority)
2. the sign fix is very recent, so they know what they changed and probably what to adapt (practicality)

[pale jackal]

step 1), recompile the last known good build
step 2), send it to fawkes
step 3) profit... somehow...

[still ibex]

eh you didnt chose to put the files there

[compact rapids]

If that was me, I'd be looking at doing it in a docker container on the Windows box. Docker already runs as a service and if you set the docker container to restart with the server it'll take care of itself that way. Because it's running in the container, it'll have your files in all the right places... but that's just me.

[pale jackal]

it's the only thing on my dedicated server, it's not too much fuss to manage and NSSM is very nice/simple and clean for making it a legit service

I will say though, I do enjoy how many giga IT nerds there are in the dedicated-server-experimental channel. my peeps.

[compact rapids]

Not saying your way isn't proper. There is just a lot more variables if you have a problem and stuff isn't where the game or other bits that might be running against those files are looking for them. Makes it harder to track down and be sure you are undersstanding the flow of the issue 🙂 It's all good though. I'm a switch when it comes to this stuff. Born a Windows guy, converted partially to Linux in my world but still have to support both lol

[compact rapids]

Hahaha

[still ibex]

if you go docker it's portable, easier to change servers, and you can stick the save files in a location that can be backed up by a cloud service or something, I back up my saves to pcloud once a day

[compact rapids]

Oooo So server patched this morning and looks like we might be back in business.

[pale jackal]

whaaaaaaaaaaa

[still ibex]

no, now multiplayer signs are broken

[compact rapids]

multiplayer signs?

[pale jackal]

oh yeah, this morning's fix broke some stuff

[still ibex]

the servers work but if your factory has signs you'll crash when you connect to your server

[pale jackal]

we've had first fix, yes, but what about second fix?

[still ibex]

or any other multiplayer session

[compact rapids]

What's the multiplay signs one? I haven't seen / followed that one with my server being dowwn..

[pale jackal]

when logging into a multiplayer server with signs, it'll cause the client to crash on load

[still ibex]

it was literally introduced in the patch that fixed servers lol

[compact rapids]

ROFL

[pale jackal]

apparently you can load the map in a map manager, delete all your signs and it'll work

[still ibex]

so your server can run now, you just can't connect

[pale jackal]

but I have, uh, lotsa signs, so that ain't happening

[compact rapids]

So if I put signs on a container, I can't load in? or when actually having two people it'll crash?

[pale jackal]

no even player 0 is affected

[still ibex]

you can't connect to a remote seession

[compact rapids]

Hahahaha

Oooof

[still ibex]

does it crash the host in multiplayer too?

[pale jackal]

nope

[compact rapids]

It's patching my windows client as well at the moment so we'll see if I'm lucky or not

[pale jackal]

just the client

server keeps chugging along, sending death packets to any client that dare connect

[still ibex]

that's what I thought, so yeah, you can download and play your save locally then load it back up on the server when you're done in the meantime

[compact rapids]

Hahahaa

[compact rapids]

Just saying... <---- This guy is a 45ish "giga IT guy" so not all of us are fully in the club some of us birthed the club ROFL

Alright.... Firing up... *crossing fingers.....

[pale jackal]

I'm 43 friendo, wanna talk about our 2 node, 2,400 baud BBS's that got us started?

"before the internet....."

[pale jackal]

report pls.

[compact rapids]

I was using a 110 baud acoustin coupler before I got my c64 with a 1200 baud modem lol

[pale jackal]

DID YOU USE TWEASERS TO SET YOUR INTERRUPT JUMPERS!??!