dedicated-servers

[blazing halo]

Okay.

Though, I suppose I might want to dial it back a bit... heheh.

I mean, on the one hand - there's no need to generate confusion on a troubleshooting channel.

[frank finch]

Agreed

[blazing halo]

But on the other... it kinda goes against my - admittedly self-imposed - role of an "educator".

There's also the fact that people approach the issue with little to no understanding, or due gravity (we are talking about hosting services on the Internet, after all).

So... a little of column A, a little of column B...

[scarlet crater]

did my changing to
FG.NetworkQuality 3 fix the belt's showing moving items?

[blazing halo]

As it's more of a game-logic/network logic issue at its core, I doubt it'll improve it. It never did for me, at any rate, and I've seen people try that before - to no effect.

[scarlet crater]

(Update 6)

weird my exact same area i showed b4 with the GIF is working fine

[blazing halo]

But if you can pull FG.NetworkQuality 3 off (and if you're on something approaching gigabit, you should be able to no problem), by all means.

[scarlet crater]

its a local server 10Gb LAN

[blazing halo]

Yes, it can fix itself for short bursts. It'll be broken again once you move away and come back, from experimentation.

Especially if there's start-stop production.

[scarlet crater]

i'll hypertube somewhere else. but it does run smoother if my client is not doing the CPU work as well even on a 5950x

[frank finch]

Not so sure that's the case - I'm running my server on a standalone AWS instance and I'm experiencing the same thing.

[blazing halo]

You're running it on AWS with no connectivity issues?

[frank finch]

Nah not at all

[blazing halo]

U6 or U7?

[frank finch]

u7

If by connectivity you mean just disconnecting all the time?

[blazing halo]

No, I mean having trouble connecting.

May I try to connect to your server?

[frank finch]

My buddy and I ahve been playing for 6+ hours now, a few disconnects here and there, but stable for the most part.

Sure I'll DM you.

[blazing halo]

I ask because we've had people try to host on AWS, and they all had the same specific sort of issue. An issue I also had, and this is a chance for me to see if I still have it, or not.

[frank finch]

Been running a server over multiple different saves / updates on AWS for quite a while now with no major issues.

I will say, the only major performance issues I've seen are from different instance types / lower resources.

Especially on larger saves. The one I'm on now is relatively new.

[scarlet crater]

10MB save is painful

whats a good average tic rate?

[blazing halo]

30. :D

It coincides with the default tickrate limit.

[devout frost]

We been at 10mb for a minute, and have had nothing but problems ever since.

[eager gorge]

is anyone crashing on loading a save file for dedicated servers?

[mental locust]

Hi

No

Online if anyone needs help

[eager gorge]

well i rolled back 3 saves and its working now 🙂

[mental locust]

Good!

[frosty tartan]

Hopefully that wasn't too much game time lost 🤞

[mental locust]

Possibly like 2 hours

[eager gorge]

ah its like a day of just screwing around i think

[mental locust]

Rip

[eager gorge]

no big deal its always faster the 2nd time around 🙂

[mental locust]

New update is really buggy I hear

[frank finch]

It's still playable, so not too buggy.

[mental locust]

Define payable lol

[frank finch]

That's fair. I can play the game, so it's playable 😛

[mental locust]

Good:)

[frank finch]

Most issues I've seen so far are people having issues with Epic, or upset with the visuals on conveyors.

[mental locust]

Epic 🤮

[blazing halo]

Log plz.

[mental locust]

Oh no kad became a cat..

[eager gorge]

lol

[blazing halo]

Oh, hey there Big K! ;D

[eager gorge]

sorry i thought you were a bot lol

[blazing halo]

... really? xD

[mental locust]

😆

[blazing halo]

I know my bedside manner could use a little work, but come on!

🤣

[mental locust]

😳

[eager gorge]

lmao

[mental locust]

So we should have a recommended hosting command that list good host

[eager gorge]

im all good now anyway thanks

[blazing halo]

Having a maintained list wouldn't be a bad idea.

[tawny jackal]

Anyone know if you can change the animal behavior in dedicated servers?

[shy holly]

I'm starting a Dedicated server, I need to see how many people it can handle before my computer crashes. Is there a mass of people who would like to try and break it?

[eager gorge]

yes bizangles you can change animal behaviors

in dedicated servers i just did it 🙂

[tawny jackal]

Do you just change it in the UI? Can any player do it?

[eager gorge]

that im not sure about im the admin so i can change it from the menu by hitting escape

[tawny jackal]

Alright, I'll try that

It definitely changed the setting, but I think retaliate might not be working. I attacked a spider and it seemed interested for a second, but never actually attacked me

[frank finch]

Seems animal behavior is personal

Not tied to the server

[frank stag]

Has there been any official word on the epic DS app?

[blazing halo]

It "works" inasmuch as the setting "works". As for the mode itself... I have similar experiences. We'll likely see changes in this area, however.

[frosty tartan]

Lol I'm desperate, so I'm trying a 3rd hosting option

Apparently THIS host doesn't respect public vs experimental

So far:

• local (my PC) dedicated server can't reach the outside world.
• LOW.MS kinda a mess from a UI/UX standpoint (think winamp circa 2006ish) and when my node died the migrated me and I started having NAT issues

• Indifferent Broccoli is really sleek and cheep but so minimalistic it's kinda hard to tell what's going on. Customer support is A tier

[brave patio]

hi all, been away since update 4. So if there is obvious to everyone might not for me. Are there any site/link that have extensive list of what issue to expect if I try to play dedicated server?

[frank finch]

New issue with u7?

[frosty tartan]

• Host Havoc is telling me my 202470 public branch client doesn't match their <some higher number> server

Yeah it's gotta be. Theyve got a drop down to select public vs experimental but

It doesn't seem to actually respect what that drop-down is

[frank finch]

Are you running the experimental branch locally?

[frosty tartan]

Nope

[frank finch]

Do you have access to the server client, or is it fully managed by the 3rd party?

[frosty tartan]

Eyyyy ok good news

After flipping it from Public to Public to Experimental to Public

It finally was like "ohhhhhh you want the server to run on the public branch"

[frank finch]

Nice 🙂

[frank finch]

Best place to start
https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[frosty tartan]

It's not a comprehensive list but finding a stable hosting site (if you're going 3rd party) has been rough for me. Not so much for others.

Otherwise, it basically runs great other than it's just kinda fucky sometimes

[brave patio]

thanks

[frosty tartan]

Lotsa little timing errors, had some weird world grid issues for a bit

It's like satisfactory, but wackier

[brave patio]

yeah, I plan to go 3rd party. Don't have powerful server and network in my local

[frank finch]

It can be run on AWS for pretty cheap if you don't mind fully managing / setting it up yourself.

[brave patio]

AWS cost kind of confusing 😄

[frosty tartan]

Haha yeah I was just looking at that and I don't mind fully managing it

[frank finch]

Curious though, what do you guys pay for 3rd party services?

[frosty tartan]

Uhhhh

service 1, 15usd /mo
Service 2, 12usd /mo
Service 3, 22usd /mo

Order respective to my list above

[brave patio]

there is non of these that provide stable experience?

[frosty tartan]

Is there a decent guide for getting set up on AWS?

[frosty tartan]

So far best luck has been service 3

[frank finch]

I guess the biggest benefit to AWS, besides being able to manage everything yourself, is that you can set it up where you're only paying when you want to play.

[frosty tartan]

But frankly I'd rather go with AWS if possible

[brave patio]

ouch

[frank finch]

Downside is, if you play a lot, you pay more 😛

[frosty tartan]

How much? I saw it was like plans starting at 125 active hours or something

Which seems low for 4ppl to play for a month

[frosty tartan]

We'll see, I'm just salty. It's been two days of weird dogshit.

I'm hopeful that this Host Havoc service is good

[frank finch]

It varies depending on how long the server is running. If you're running it 24/7 it's going to be way more than any 3rd party. I've been getting it as close to optimal as possible, paying about 17-25/month.

[frosty tartan]

Ahh ok

If I need to bail off of this most recent host I'll look more into that as an option

But it's looking stable 🤞

[frank finch]

Good deal - I guess it also sort of depends on the quality of server you're getting. Hope your hosting service is good enough 🙂

[frosty tartan]

Haha yeah seriously

[frank finch]

Just to give you an idea of my AWS costs for this month so far

[frosty tartan]

I went with cheap first and this is what I get

[velvet bough]

multithreaded dedicated server when?

[frank finch]

Basically 40 hours so far this month.

[frosty tartan]

Nice ok

Me: I'll pay for 3 eve accounts
Also me: man, why I gotta pay 22 bucks for a server >:{

(I am not a smart man)

[frank finch]

I can probably get my costs down a bit further if I manage it better

Right now my server idles for an hour if nobody connects, which I could save $0.34 on per idle hour if I crunch it more.

[frosty tartan]

Ah so you say "I want to have computing power between the hours of X and Y"

And they charge you for that?

[frank finch]

I could do that too, but It's only me and a few friends that use that server.

But yeah, you totally can

I just start my server up when someone wants to play, and then whenever someone leaves, it idles for an hour then stops

I could lower that to 10 mins probably, and get my costs lower. I also need to figure out a better way to let people connect whenever they want without having to launch the AWS console.

[frosty tartan]

Ooooooo

I gotcha

[frank finch]

Worth comparing server performance between AWS and 3rd party as well

[frosty tartan]

Totally

Tbf

3rd party is probably just a middleman on an AWS backbone 😂

[frank finch]

Honestly, trying to learn AWS so I can do the same lol

You can do so much with it

[frosty tartan]

100

🤔🤔🤔🤔

I'm surprised that Azure hasn't done something similar

Fuck that feels right up Microsoft's alley

[frosty tartan]

@frank finch which service within AWS are you using? The 3rd 3rd party hosting service didn't work out 😦

I'd say it was me at this point, but everyone I've talked to friends and someone from this server also have the same connection issues to the servers I'm spinning up

[frank finch]

The main application for aws servers is EC2, which is just the cloud computing instances.

[frosty tartan]

ahhh ok

cool i was poking around at that, so i was thinking correctly

tyty

[frank finch]

I can give more details tomorrow if you want to send me a DM

[frosty tartan]

sounds good! sorry for late night ping

[frank finch]

No worries glad I turned another to the dark side

[half idol]

Hello, how to switch to experimental on my local dedicated server? right now im using steamcmd to launch the server

[mint junco]

Aside from the visual display issues on conveyers there appears to be a throughput issue on conveyers, vertical lifts, mergers and splitters.
At my turbofuel power plant there are 8 floors of 5 refineries making heavy oil residue.

A byproduct from that is polymer resin, 100 per floor per minute for a theoretical total of 800 per minute.
This goes through a system of vertical lifts and mergers down the building where it either goes to refineries making rubber and plastic or when backed up is diverted to awesome sinks.

Given the facility doesn't reach 100% efficiency (it rounds down to the nearest whole machine in the process per floor) the mk5 conveyer system should never get saturated.
It worked just fine under update 5 and 6.
Under update 7 polymer resin is backing up the refineries causing the upstream machines to switch off and knocking out a portion of power generation.
Floors 7 and 8 are affected.

In case it is a mathematical error, e.g. the throughput is actually 800 polymer resin I have diverted floor 8 completely to an awesome sink.
Floor 7 is still backing up and the theoretical throughput of polymer resin should be a maximum of 700/minute.

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6374bc2aca608e0803524e58

[mint junco]

Is the QA site down for anyone else?
The crash reporting system has apparently crashed.

[obsidian rune]

Add -beta experimental to your install arguments. More info on the wiki in the channel's topic.

[obsidian rune]

I do recall them doing some rebalancing. I don't know what they rebalanced, exactly. Check your numbers?

[mint junco]

Already have, it's in the post.

The process is not capable of generating more than 800 polymer resin per minute.
The outflow is mk5 all the way.
I've removed a theoretical 100 polymer resin from the equation already and still it is backing up.
I observed smart splitters behaving slightly strangely under update 6 (they were not alternating output when set to any/any) and have a feeling it is exacerbated under update 7.

However with the flow backed up and the smart splitters set to any/overflow 100% of the overflow should be diverted to a sink.
There is no way the polymer resin should be backing up to the refinery.
I should add that I have deleted and re-added lifts on affected machines and sections of the conveyer in case they were bugged.

[devout frost]

Since only a portion of my question/statement was answered I'll ask again. So we changed our server over to U7 yesterday and have been getting an issue of a crash every time it autosaves, while also failing to save. Changing the auto save interval does help. We also have been seeing noticeably longer load times. That being said anyone have any ideas as to what's going on with it. Currently we have reverted it back to U6 for the time being.

[shadow meteor]

I installed the DS via steamcmd :

steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir "C:\DS" +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit

but when I try to connect to server from client app I see this message. How to update DS correctly? I try twice run code above..

[timid forge]

Is there a known Issue that Up7 on servers arw bugged with the Machines?

And the conveiers are laggy

[buoyant forge]

is it possible to use a Pterodactyl Gameserver tu run it there?

[novel yarrow]

Add -beta experimental to your install arguments. More info on the wiki in the channel's topic.

[obsidian rune]

Please share a U7 log - along with a crash log, if present (the most helpful file is the XML context one). It would be best if the log was leading up to the crash. ;P

[obsidian rune]

As far as I'm aware: yes, people have used Pterodactyl (and LinuxGSM, too) to run Satisfactory DS before. There's an egg available, probably several. Please keep in mind that we can't provide support for such configurations, and you will need to seek support from their respective dev teams.

[devout frost]

Where would one find this? I'm not even sure there's a crash log generated, because it basically just says connection timed out, but it does it for all players on the server.

[obsidian rune]

Does the server continue to run through all this? Or does it crash and restart? This is a critical distinction.

[devout frost]

Well to be honest it depends on the moment, sometimes it just kicks you and others it crashes and needs to reboot.

[obsidian rune]

As for the where - the logs (and crash dumps) you should find in the server's installation directory, under FactoryGame/Saved/Logs and FactoryGame/Saved/Crashes respectively. Note: a log from one of your clients may also be helpful here; those are saved on %LOCALAPPDATA%\FactoryGame\Saved\Logs.

[devout frost]

It's kinda like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get.

[obsidian rune]

In that case, I would need a set of logs (as outlined above) for both scenarios - chances are, these are separate issues.

But while we're talking... how long does saving your game take?

(you will find detailed info on it in the server's log)

If it takes more than 30 seconds, that would explain your "everyone is booted out" issue, and we'd only be left with the crash scenario. I will explain if/when you confirm this.

[devout frost]

Roughly 30 seconds to 1 minute, depending on location.

How would you like me to send the log, just upload here?

[devout frost]

Well that's one issue out of the way so far, but the crash is a bit odd right, because I have log files, but no crash files other than the .ini files which only contain like 6 lines and are true or false variables.

[obsidian rune]

In that case, look through log files and see if the crash data is included in them.

[obsidian rune]

So, how long does the save take?

[devout frost]

According to the log 24.91 seconds

Correction 26.97 seconds

Read the wrong line

[obsidian rune]

Yeah, that's close enough to start causing (perhaps random-looking) disconnects. The default timeout is 30 seconds, and the server goes "dark" when saving/loading, meaning - it doesn't respond to any communication during that time.

The game simply assumes it "died", packs up shop, and shows you the "Timed out" error.

[devout frost]

But it wont save even after kick

Also doesn't happen with U6

[obsidian rune]

It's technically not a "kick".

If you increase the timeouts to 60 seconds (on the server and all of the clients), that particular problem should cease.

If you're still sure it's something else, or that it doesn't actually save - show me the log.

Notably, if you have the server configured to pause when it's empty... that may be interfering with the mechanism, especially when it detects that it suddenly became empty (everyone timed out) at that time...

[devout frost]

This log

?

[obsidian rune]

Okay, so the first thing I recommend you do, is add -multihome=0.0.0.0 to your server's launch parameters. I hope you're not using IPv6 with this thing, and that you have all 3 ports forwarded wherever you're hosting it. This will disable the internal packet router, which may be causing issues - let's remove it from the equation, as it's basically useless.

Okay, that's pretty much all about this particular log. I would still recommend you up your timeouts to 60s, or even longer if you expect the save file to grow significantly beyond what it currently is.

[devout frost]

Hmmm, well first things first, I am using gportal, and I don't even see "Launch Parameters" in the server options as for port forwarding I also see nothing as far as that in the config files.

[devout frost]

I did actually find an option. Is this what you are talking about?

[obsidian rune]

It could be. You can go ahead and try it. Remember to shut the server down before you make any .ini changes, as they get written to on clean shutdown.

[mental locust]

Good morning

[hallow sierra]

Hi, i've got a dedicated server running on Nitrado but it hasn't automatically updated to update 7. I've looked around on the web interface but most settings have to be dealt with ingame which i obviously can't do at the moment due to version mismatch. Any ideas how to sort this?

[frank finch]

Update 7 is only on the experimental branch at the moment. Your server needs to be running the experimental (beta) branch in order to play on update 7.

[hallow sierra]

it is anyway, you only run dedicated on experimental

[frank finch]

There are experimental and main branch dedicated servers

They're different applications

[hallow sierra]

oooohhh, you're right

[frank finch]

It's either that or they just haven't updated the server. If it's something to do with your hosting service I'd recommend getting in touch with their support.

[hallow sierra]

Thanks man, gonna have to see if I can transfer my save to experimental now

[frank finch]

Good luck!

[fluid rapids]

I can no longer start my dedicated server after installing Update 7. I get an error:
A D3D11-compatible GPU (Feature level 11.0, Shader Model 5.0) is required.
I was able to run the server on Update 6.
The computer I am running the dedicated server on is pretty old, but hosts the server pretty good.

[mental locust]

@hallow sierra nitrido sucks..

@frosty gale 24/7 without it being locally

Ya

Yes

[hallow sierra]

Nitrado is usually pretty good for most games but because satisfactory is very new in terms of dedicated servers, there just isn't much of a web interface for it. Also this situation was my fault for having the wrong version installed

[frank finch]

Have you checked for driver updates?

[mental locust]

Ya. They advertise mods.. it's not possible as of yet

@fluid rapids server specs

[fluid rapids]

I was running Update 6, closed it. Updated to Update 7 and it no longer.
Windows 2019 Server Standard
Intel Xeon x5670 3.07GHz
16 core
32 gig ram
Standard integrated video (Matrox Graphics)
Its an older server machine.

[mental locust]

Why windows?

Could be a windows issue idk unfortunately @blazing halo

He might be able to help

[fluid rapids]

Like I said, Update 6 had been running for months. Only Update 7 is displaying an issue.

[mental locust]

Strange

[fluid rapids]

Now sure why a dedicated server which runs in a command prompt window required a DirectX 11 GPU.
It didn't require it in Update 6.

[frank finch]

Just from some googling, this sees to be the general consensus. Some posts from a Microsoft forum

Update game and Windows
Update graphics card driver
install the DirectX End-User Runtime
Upgrade GPU hardware
Reinstall Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributables

Hi there,

This error occurs, if your GPU is currently incompatible with D3DX 11, which is sourced from DirectX 11, a more recent version of DirectX. In this case, to resolve the issue, you can download and install the DirectX latest version from Microsoft.

It could mostly also be due to missing of driver (Nvidia grid driver or AMD GPU driver). You can get this fixed by installing appropriate drivers and reboot.

If your GPU is older than 5 years or so, there’s a good chance that it won’t be able to handle D3DX 11, and thus won’t be able to run the game throwing the error message on your gaming rig. In this case, to have the issue resolved, you simply need to upgrade your GPU hardware.

I hope this information helps. If you have any questions please let me know and I will be glad to help you out.

[cunning night]

Dose this game have controller support

[frank finch]

Also, how did you install the server application? Steamcmd or via the Steam application?

[fluid rapids]

I closed the running Update 6 dedicated server. Which caused the Epic Game launcher to reappear. The game launcher indicated there was an update. It downloaded and installed it
I then clicked the launch button in the Epic Game launcher to restart the dedicated server.
Same way I installed and launched Update 6 Satisfactory Dedicated server.

[frank finch]

Ah, there were issues yesterday of people getting the game client instead of the server client from Epic

[fluid rapids]

How do you resolve the issue?

[frank finch]

Trying to read back in chat to find out what people were doing. I believe it's just a matter of getting the correct executable in the server directory.

Kad|TheLogMonster — Yesterday at 3:35 PM
In case you're having the same error (D3D device), download from steamcmd as EPIC is serving the client instead...
Kad|TheLogMonster — Yesterday at 3:35 PM
Download via steamcmd, EPIC is serving the game client.

The wiki covers the process well if you need a reference for how to install via SteamCMD

[hallow sierra]

Anyone know if there is a way to do a local save of a dedicated server?

[frank finch]

Are you just wanting to do a backup/save of your map/world?

[hallow sierra]

Pretty much yeh, nitrado unfortunately doesn't give a lot of access to save files and such, I can restore backups but i need an actual copy of the save file on my pc

[frank finch]

Testing

[fluid rapids]

Will I be able to install the dedicates server using steamCMD even though I only own the game on EPIC?

[frank finch]

Yes

You don't need to pay for the dedicated server application, you can install it anonymously without logging into steam via steamcmd

[fluid rapids]

My options are: Install via steamCMD or wait for a fix from either Satisfactory or EPIC.

[frank finch]

It's an Epic issue. But yeah pretty much.

[hallow sierra]

Oh I actually found a way to download the file through nitrado

[frank finch]

Awesome!

[mystic fossil]

I can probably find this by googling but does dedi server require configured ports and whatnot, or does it utilize the same epic games networking tunnel stuff that in-game hosting has?

[frank finch]

There are ports by default that the satisfactory server uses, that need to be accessible for inbound connections to the server.

Info is on the wiki
https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[mystic fossil]

Ok, right, thats a bit of a pain i guess

[frank finch]

Yeah, it can be depending on your setup. What are you trying to run the server on?

[mystic fossil]

I havent set anything up yet. So far I've just been in-game hosting for friends and i tend to leave my pc and game on overnight. So i was thinking of setting up a server on a separate box. But im on university network so I wouldn't be able to port forward. Could use one of those tunneling tools like hamachi or something but thats just added annoyance

[frank finch]

Ah yeah, that sounds like a nightmare to try to set up lol. I always recommend AWS if you want to self-host, but it's probably not the best setup by any means.

In terms of cost/management, depending on how involved you want to be.

[mystic fossil]

Would probably be pretty pricey to get a vps with a cpu fast enough for the game eh?

[visual blaze]

Hey there. Would renting a server to play the game take some of the stress off of my laptop or nah? And how hard would it be to add mods?

I know you guys get into the nitty gritty of setting them up and maintainance and such, but I'm just simple 😂

[mental locust]

@mystic fossil I can host for u

@visual blaze no mods on servers

[visual blaze]

Oof, sad day. Was gonna start a playthrough with a couple QoL. Guess I have to pick between the two

[mental locust]

Yep

[visual blaze]

But a server would take some of the stress off my laptop, since the server would be handling alot of the calculations yeah? That's the defining factor that would actually make me pick between the two lol

[mental locust]

Not really

[visual blaze]

Welp. QoL mods it is then.

[mental locust]

Sorry 😞

[visual blaze]

It's all good, tis why I popped in to ask lol.

[topaz badger]

Okay, struggling here and could use another eyeball or two.
I'm not new to running game servers so scratching my head as to why this isn't working:

1. I setup DNS w/ a CNAME for my server, returns the correct IP address
2. Added exceptions to my firewall for a port group for 7777,15000,15777
3. Added forwarding rules for the above ports to point to my server
4. Added exceptions to my servers firewall for the above ports
5. Started the server, logs look good
6. localhost connections work, vanity URL does not 😢

Troubleshooting
triple checked all steps
validated vanity url via nc command for port 15777 and works
lots of swearing, threatening electrons, and general shenanigans

[scarlet crater]

If you skip the URL and just do the WAN IP does it work?

[topaz badger]

not working, which is what made me think firewall/forwarding was wrong

[scarlet crater]

Sounds like that is the case. Is this on a windows box? What if you try disabling the Windows firewall as a test

[topaz badger]

nc -uzvw10 <URL> 15777 does work thou

[scarlet crater]

I know you made changes to the server FW, but when testing I would suggest disabling it completetly to rule out potentional problems

[topaz badger]

correct sadly, it is Windows. Testing failed again w/ both URL & WAN IP

[scarlet crater]

Ok so we can elminate that being the issue. Your port fowarding rules. I assume they are point to the correct LAN IP, and are correct in TCP or UDP?

[topaz badger]

correct, i've tried both using a destination group (with my one host) and explicit IP to server. all rules are for UDP

[scarlet crater]

None of the ports are being used by other port fowarding rules correct?

[topaz badger]

correct, only 1 other FW exception and 1 other forwarding rule

[scarlet crater]

Without seeing the configuration, it sounds like you did everything correctly

[topaz badger]

im looking over it all again but yea... i don't get it. I'm going to delete the FW/forwarding rules and start over i guess. sadly my appliance doesn't have the best logging or i'd be neck deep in there figuring out what's routing where

appreciate your help thou!!!!

[scarlet crater]

Maybe after re-adding the rules throw the FW for a reboot? I have seen some units behave weirdly until that was done

[topaz badger]

true but then the whole homelab and work connection goes dark... worth a shot at least for sure thou

[scarlet crater]

what FW are you using

[topaz badger]

Ubiquity UDM pro

[scarlet crater]

same as mine lol

[topaz badger]

yeah, it's hard to mess up these rules but idk... i do have the fowarding rule including all ports in one go... maybe i need to split it out?

[scarlet crater]

do you have IDS/IPS turned on?

[topaz badger]

ya

[scarlet crater]

try shutting it off temp?

[topaz badger]

is your forwarding rule like this too?

i wasn't 100% sure if that'd map correctly or if i needed 3 diff rules

[scarlet crater]

I dont have access to my unit right now, I can check in a few hours

[topaz badger]

no dice

[scarlet crater]

ubituiti logging is kinda crap you need a 3rd party logging server

[topaz badger]

I'm moving off the platform next upgrade. had to rma a doorbell and took them 10 months to get me a new one. then i read the subbreddit and yeah, they just suck

I love the APs thou... very nice

[mental locust]

@topaz badger what's up

[sage dune]

It shouldn't make a difference but really if you're mapping a DNS entry to an IP, you should be using an A record and not a cname. But besides technicalities, it is generally accepted that you should allow up to 72 hours for DNS entries to propagate worldwide. In today's world, DNS entries are nearly instant however depending on the DNS server your clients are using, those records might not be getting updated immediately. I would try having them use an IP instead of DNS just to rule out DNS issues.

[scarlet crater]

they did try IP, no change

[sage dune]

Sorry, I missed that part... DNS is just bogus sometimes.... The only other idea possibly is the port forwarding. I have a Ubiquiti USG and I had to create 3 different rules for each port. Not sure if the DM GUI is different.

Or, it's possible your ISP is flat out blocking ports too. Perhaps try some non-standard ports.

[scarlet crater]

I'll post my rules when I get home they were working but I disabled them since I am doing SP

[blazing halo]

There's the not-so-fringe-nowadays case of using DDNS, in which case setting up for an IP helps little, and the record changes. :D

(btw. if your DNS cache is dead-set on lasting 48 hours, have fun with DDNS :D)

[mental locust]

@blazing halo good afternoon

[blazing halo]

Hey there Big K.

[mental locust]

Been working alot

[blazing halo]

That a question or a statement?

[mental urchin]

hi, dedicated server hosted at home dont work with update 7 , unable to join my server even reinstall with steamcmd

?

[blazing halo]

Symptoms?

[mental urchin]

mismatch version

[blazing halo]

Are you sure you are running the correct version? Are you sure you are installing to the right folder?

[stiff chasm]

You need to use the experimental version

[mental urchin]

steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate +quit

[blazing halo]

That looks right. Are you sure you're running the correct executable?

[mental urchin]

beta experimental has been choosen when i launch my .bat file

yes, all is experimental

[fair osprey]

The Customizer Gun keeps crashing the Dedicated Server I'm playing on

[blazing halo]

Are you sure there's no old server running still?

[mental urchin]

yes, no old server running

[blazing halo]

Are you connecting to the right IP?

Did you update your game client?

(and switch it to Experimental)

[mental urchin]

yes , steam do it automatically

( for the client )

[blazing halo]

Then your situation is impossible.

One of the above must be false.

[mental urchin]

that why i'm here

[blazing halo]

If you have the correct game client, the correct server, launching the correct server, no other servers running,

and you still get version mismatch,

that is an impossible situation.

One of these must be false.

Check again, please.

The most common mistake is installing to the wrong directory.

[mental urchin]

i do it now

[blazing halo]

For example, if you originally installed to C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryDedicatedServer, and then installed the beta to C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer, you may be accidentally launching the old server.

[mental urchin]

i play only experimental , i never install the "regular" version

[blazing halo]

Please find your server's directory, go into Engine -> Binaries -> Win64, find the file UE4Server-Win64-Shipping.version and open it with a text editor. Inside, you will find "BuildId": NUMBER. What is your number?

[mental urchin]

208250

[blazing halo]

Okay. What does your game say it's build number is?

[mental urchin]

same

[blazing halo]

Then you cannot be getting a version mismatch.

Please screenshot the error and post it here.

[mental urchin]

that why i'm here, i dont understand :/

i delete the game and the server

[blazing halo]

Screenshot. The. Error. Message.

Please.

[mental urchin]

that's working now, i've deleted server directory and reinstall it before you ask screenshoot

i think is windows file management , i remember windows have a "shadow" file , (i dont say it correctly in english)

[blazing halo]

I think you just launched the wrong version, and are now trying to save face. :-) But it doesn't really matter. It works? Good. Go play.

(If I had a penny for each time someone tried to blame Windows for problems originating between their keyboard and chair...)

[mental locust]

😉

We know the truth

[mental urchin]

saving face ? for why ? i dont know you, i dont care why do you think, windows have a "shadow" copy of file present on the hard drive, maybe the shadow copy is not updated when i launch the update, check on google for that's, and thanks for your time.

[mental locust]

🤮

[blazing halo]

Hahah. What bullshit. :D

[mental urchin]

bullshit ?

i 've made mistake, is not shadow, my server was in copy in roaming directory ( the old ) , that why i have the error

[mental locust]

Odd

[mental urchin]

windows make a copy of all app in roamming directory

[blazing halo]

Since when is C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer in Roaming? :D

[mental urchin]

no, my launcher, not the server, i've automated all task in javascript on my side

[blazing halo]

node?

[mental urchin]

the client for me is inside roaming, yes node.js & custom program in c++

[blazing halo]

I see.

[mental urchin]

i can update my game with a custom bot with discord for example

[blazing halo]

Okay, that is more plausible, but then a) you should've told us, and b) we can't help resolve issues with stuff like that.

[mental urchin]

my first impression was the dedicated server was not updated for the last update, that's why i'm here

is a mistake from my side

[blazing halo]

Ok.

Glad we got that resolved.

[mental urchin]

thank you again

[scarlet crater]

bah

@topaz badger

[scarlet crater]

If using multi WAN make sure to select to right WAN interface

[topaz badger]

I'll try that now!

[blazing halo]

You don't have to hide LAN IPs. ;]

[scarlet crater]

lol

shush

[topaz badger]

recreated both FW & forwarding rules but still no dice. trying both URL & IP... sigh

[scarlet crater]

:/

[topaz badger]

this isn't hard... idk what the deal is at this point

[scarlet crater]

if you want me to try connecting I can give it a shot as well

[topaz badger]

has anyone else had issues running a server on their localhost but can't connect via their WAN/URL?

[scarlet crater]

Since you just asked I tried doing that using my public DNS record, no go

Not the same computer but a device on the same network

[topaz badger]

seems like a weird issue forsure. I mean it works for say minecraft servers

[blazing halo]

You're trying to connect via your WAN from inside your LAN?

[scarlet crater]

That was indeed the issue, It should work (every other game I have done it with worked fine), however I also attempted to connect via my WAN DNS record, no good

[blazing halo]

Um... do you have NAT hairpin configured?

If you say that every other game worked, you probably do.

It's the exception, not the rule. Typical consumer routers don't have it set up.

In general: do not try to connect via WAN to your LAN server. If you don't have NAT hairpin (also known as "NAT reflection" and "NAT loopback") configured, it will not work - and you likely don't have it configured. Your router may have a setting for it; most don't. My personal experience with Satisfactory is that it might not work regardless, but that might just be me. I've seen it refuse to work with reverse proxies, forwarders, and - personally - NAT hairpin.

[scarlet crater]

i wish dedicated server notified you of the auto save starting

[blazing halo]

Yeah. The QA posting asking for it has been up for a while.

[scarlet crater]

I would get notified b4 i get force disconnected at least

[blazing halo]

Increase the timeouts.

You can't do anything about the hang, but at least you won't get "booted out" while waiting.

[tawny jackal]

I'm curious, are blueprints just plain broken on dedicated servers? I've managed to crash my client several times, and the server, but haven't gotten them working quite right

[blazing halo]

It's entirely possible that they are.

I'm told there's a reason it's "experimental²" at this point... 😂

[tawny jackal]

😲

Oh, I think the thing that kept breaking was trying to save them to a category/sub-category

[blazing halo]

Keep in mind that the blueprints are saved as real files with the names you give them,

so be aware that using any sort of special filesystem/filename characters like \, /, . or : may blow up spectacularly.

[tawny jackal]

Hmm... I might have tried a comma in a sub-category at some point

[blazing halo]

In fact, anyone feeling up to being a lab rat and checking out what happens when you try to name it something like ../../../../../../../etc/passwd or something similarly potentially devastating?

Or the NTFS bitmap killer? xD

Ping me if you test it out, I'm very curious. :D

[tawny jackal]

I won't, but I wouldn't put it past other people on my server

[blazing halo]

Which is why it'd be good to know if the devs attempted to protect the filesystem in any way, since they're potentially opening up direct filesystem access to any server/multiplayer user...

Even if putting such a path in fails to write to that location (due to lack of permissions), it might still allow reading from it into the game's memory (if the game goes ahead and keeps the registration), which still counts as a potential security breach and sensitive data exflitration. And at that point, it'd be worse than Heartbleed, since it'd essentially classify as potentially "arbitrary filesystem read".

(even if someone would need to make a full crash dump in order to recover the contents from the memory dump file)

And YES, this would be something that would qualify as a CVE, theoretically, and something to be worried about when exposing your server to the Internet. ;P

The fact that the mechanism itself is fully intentional wouldn't make a lick'a difference.

[tawny jackal]

I just remembered I was trying to save a blueprint with a slash in it before, so that might have been causing problems

[blazing halo]

I am honestly surprised they went with real filenames, instead of say generating a random 32-character string and saving the player-provided name as a property.

It would've avoided all of it.

(it would make the files less pretty to look at or tell what is what, though)

[tawny jackal]

Since they mentioned being able to copy blueprints between saves, they probably wanted a human readable filename

[blazing halo]

Just sayin'.

There are ways to filter filenames properly. The simplest solution is to use _ in place of any non-allowed character.

Then, something like ../../../../../etc/passwd becomes _______________etc_passwd - still kinda readable, but now harmless.

[tawny jackal]

You can stick a GUID on the end to avoid duplicates, too

[blazing halo]

Yeah, or just do the Windows thing and tack on a -1. :D

I mean, if you're saving a blueprint with a nearly-identical name to an existing one...

... well, they can't save you from yourself, right?

[tawny jackal]

I can't save me from myself

[blazing halo]

At any rate, I'll have to try overwriting stuff on my own, sometime later. Once I actually unlock it.

We'll see. I'm very curious.

[shadow meteor]

... add "-beta experimental" in params string. Update. Start. Try to connect... Game write: could not connect to server, but near server name I see "1 ms"
🤦‍♂️
Windows Firewall turned off, Antivirus is not used. Before the update I had no problem, but now I don't know what to do with the DS

What message in the log should be considered a full-fledged server start?

[marsh depot]

do servers still have those visual glitches where items on the conveyor belt cosmetically disappear

[wintry stone]

for me they've never left - my conveyor visuals have gotten worse on U7 so far

I've been seeing a lot more of the item stacks coming out of the vertical conveyors so far

[shadow meteor]

This is the only thing that is displayed when the level 3 conveyor belt is running

[obsidian rune]

Usually 2-3 errors about EOSP2P/shop/microtransactions not being configured.

Note that whether the server loads a save on startup or not, depends on the server's configuration.

[obsidian rune]

Yes, U7 is terrible in this regard.

I just hope it's one of those "it needs to get worse before it gets better" sort of situatons...

Still - if they're "more broken", it means the devs are messing with it. Meaning, they're working on it.

[marsh dawn]

Now I kind of wanna know myself

[inland fable]

i have installed a dedicated server on my linux box - but now i am kind of stuck:

• how to i set/change the session name so that my save-file is also loaded?
  i only have a commandline interface to that box
  trying to see the server through lan, does not show the server either

what have i missed?

[shadow meteor]

after 2 such errors , I can't to connect to the server. But when I try next morning - I can

[obsidian rune]

Do you have it configured to pause when empty?

[inland fable]

I can not find any files where i can configure anything

[shadow meteor]

I don't quite understand what you're talking about

[obsidian rune]

Which files are you looking for?

[obsidian rune]

Is your server configured to pause when no players are connected?

[shadow meteor]

No

[inland fable]

i am looking for any of the configuration/initiation files.
where should i be able to find those files for a start - how do i get a current save to be loaded for my dedicated-server

[obsidian rune]

Can you show logs of those failed after-start connection attempts?

[shadow meteor]

into PM or here?

[obsidian rune]

1. .ini files are only saved on clean server shutdown; if you haven't shut it down yet, they probably don't exist yet
2. the save info (which session/save is loaded) is kept in a binary file, you can't set it directly; you need to use the game's built-in Manager

[obsidian rune]

Here, please.

[shadow meteor]

Please remind me where the logs are stored

?

[obsidian rune]

ServerInstallDir/FactoryGame/Saved/Logs

[shadow meteor]

thx

[inland fable]

i only have a command-line interface to this box - session is started by using ./FactoryServer.sh ...

[obsidian rune]

You may also provide the client log from those failed attempts.

[obsidian rune]

... and?

[shadow meteor]

Client Log

[shadow meteor]

Server log at that time

[obsidian rune]

@shadow meteor please add -multihome=0.0.0.0 to your server's launch arguments, restart the server, and try again.

(note: this will disable IPv6 support)

[shadow meteor]

I love use any spy options! Moment..

[shadow meteor]

excellent! Instant! I didn't even have to restart the game!

Do u need logs?

[shadow meteor]

I think U need to write a configurator to create a shortcut to start the server or make edits to the configuration file.

[wintry stone]

well my first dedi server crash in a while happened on U7 😦

[obsidian rune]

So did it work?

Because that could have been sarcasm. :D

[shadow meteor]

Yeah!

[shadow meteor]

No sarcasm!! I am so happy!

[obsidian rune]

Yay. :D

[obsidian rune]

You can either make a shortcut to the server's executable and add it there, or make a .bat (.cmd) file and add it there.

[shadow meteor]

But I have no full information about all options in the DS needed for start it

[obsidian rune]

What info do you need?

[shadow meteor]

all list of start options with descriptions

[obsidian rune]

Have you looked at this channel's topic?

[shadow meteor]

Yes. Client don't want to connect to my server with error from the screen

[obsidian rune]

I don't see how those two are connected. We were talking about server launch parameters, not errors or connections.

[mint junco]

I think it's time to log this one and the QA site.
The missing information on the map on dedicated server.
The same file loaded locally gives much more detail.

[lyric junco]

Hello

Any dedicated server owners online? Can you tell me how much ram average server consumes? I know that minimum specs is 12-16gb, but its quite hard to find server w that amount of ram anywhere near me. Looking for 2-3 players world, long play with lotsof stuff

Maybe someone can give some logs from existing servers, just to see ram peaks

[shadow meteor]

Nevermind. Thx for all!

[obsidian rune]

That's the spec, unfortunately. Your server will reach about 11 GiB with just 1 player and some buildings fairly quickly. If you want more than 1 player, you'll cross 12 GiB easily.

Please note that this is for Update 6 (Early Access). Since Update 7 (Experimental) just released, we still don't have good data on that.

From what I can tell, however, it looks like the U7/EX current requirement is closer to 14~15 GiB. It will likely go back down by about 2 GiB when it gets merged to EA.

[wintry stone]

guess it's time to give WSL more memory for docker then 😦

[urban kettle]

for some reason my server wont start. this is my log

[mental locust]

What's up

@urban kettle ok os and server specs?

@obsidian rune it keeps going up with each ver release it seems...

Wasn't it 8 before

[urban kettle]

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7400 CPU and 32 gb ram

[mental locust]

Not bad windows or Ubuntu?

[urban kettle]

windows

[urban kettle]

any idea why the server wont start?

[mental locust]

Have you tried rebooting server

[urban kettle]

yea

[mental locust]

😦 I use Ubuntu so not used to hosting it on windows

[frank stag]

It's been more than 48h and EPIC still doesn't have the right version of the DS available 😭

[stiff chasm]

Use steam CMD? You dont need to own satisfactory on a steam to use the dedicated server files from it

[frank stag]

Yeah I know, I used the steam cmd prior to the DS coming to the epic store. I just couldn't imagine it taking them full days to realize they neglected to update their file and have been holding out because it's more convenient than steamcmd.

[calm jacinth]

okay this is getting annoying: world is now so busy, it takes so long to save that players are disconnecting due to timeout

[wintry flax]

Is there is a known issue with belts not populating visually?

[calm jacinth]

normal for DS/MP

[wintry flax]

Figured as much.. but wanted to verify. Thanks

[calm jacinth]

generally only see the last little bit of each belt segment with stuff on it

[wintry flax]

Yeah... and the lifts are totally weird too... they animate like 60 meters in the sky.. it's hilarious. LOL

anwyay.. thanks for the verification.. didn't know if I had something screwball or what.

[frank stag]

There's still a lot of needed optimization for sure, you're not alone

[wintry flax]

Doesn't make it unplayable.. at least for me.. just a lil goofy when making sure the belts are working properly.

[blazing halo]

That looks like a correct server start to me. What's the issue?

[odd crown]

When I've been looking at my DS it's mostly 10-11 through startup and a bit after then drops down to 3-4. Probably varies fairly much in between those two tho

[blazing halo]

... 😂

Yeah, that's likely.

[calm jacinth]

ugh, DS crashed itself again with 0 byte dmp

and really getting tired of it kicking players during saving

and getting tired of having to attempt to connect 2-3 times after it restarts (like it's pausing mid load so people have to try to join to wake it up to load a little more, and a little more, and a little more, then it's finally all loaded so you can actually join)

[blazing halo]

Do you have it set up to pause when empty?

[calm jacinth]

yes

[blazing halo]

Then it doesn't load the save on start, but on first connection.

It probably takes long enough to make you time out during this.

Do you have it set up to save when a player exits?

[calm jacinth]

i'm saying the two are related: it saves, players drop due to time out, it finishes saving, and then players try to rejoin but have to try like 3 times to actually connect and stay in

[blazing halo]

> Do you have it set up to save when a player exits?

[calm jacinth]

there's only like 7 settings and i doubt that's one of them

[blazing halo]

Can you check?

[calm jacinth]

oh right, forgot about those 🤣

yes, it's checked

[blazing halo]

This setting, yeah?

[calm jacinth]

yup, exactly like that

[blazing halo]

Yup.

So what happens is:

• connect

• server: LOAD GAME

• timeout

• server: ... LOAD GAME.....

• server: ... DONE

• server: OH SHIT PLAYER DISCONNECTED (timeout),

• server: SAVE GAME

• connect ...

• server: ... SAVE GAME...
• disconnect

• server: ... DONE

-server: OH SHIT, ANOTHER PLAYER LEFT

SAVE GAME

...

;)

[calm jacinth]

exactly

🐛

[blazing halo]

Sooo....

... the solution:

connect first time

timeout

WAIT 3 MINUTES.

Let it finish loading.

[calm jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19492714

[blazing halo]

If you don't keep trying to connect,

it won't keep saving the game

and creating further delays.

Connect once to "wake it up", and then let it wake up.

[calm jacinth]

or just uncheck the box?

[blazing halo]

... so, you need a technical solution to solve the problem of "we're all so out of control we can't wait 3 minutes"? xD

ADHD much? 😂

[calm jacinth]

i need a technical solution where players are waiting

[blazing halo]

Yeah, might happen on the next dev DS pass.

Until then... it is what it is.

[calm jacinth]

it better because this is ridiculous

[blazing halo]

No, this is "sloppy".

The fact that, on Windows, it disappears

[calm jacinth]

jargon 🤪

[blazing halo]

and people think it died when it's running

is ridiculous.

xD

The fact that, until U6, you couldn't change the beacon port - was also ridiculous. xD

[calm jacinth]

"sloppy" 😉

[blazing halo]

The fact that you still can't change the save directory, or the config directory, is insane. xD

The fact that the internal router is utter shite, but it's still on by default boggles the mind. 😂

Literally nobody: ...
CSS devs: Hey, let's help these poor people forward ports by building in a router!

[calm jacinth]

😐

[cinder phoenix]

has anyone had issues with blueprints going invisible for people that didnt create it?

[rapid hemlock]

quick question

can satisfactory use TCP instead of UDP?

basically, according to the documentation, it should be possible to forward to TCP and not UDP,

same on the support page it states

so id imagine I can change the local host port, and then use ngrok to forward it

@blazing halo would that be possible?

[blazing halo]

It can't, no.

TCP and UDP are not interchangeable.

It's kind of like asking if you can connect the output of your stomach to your balls. ;]

[rapid hemlock]

ah

gotcha

forgive my ignorance

[blazing halo]

Nothing to forgive. Not knowing isn't a shame.

Not knowing when you should know - can be. But I doubt you've ever touched networking before dealing with this stuff here.

[rapid hemlock]

thing is, I know what I need to do, problem is, I cant cuz of my network admin

as of now, ive got ngrok going, and a discord bot that notifies me when the ip changes

[blazing halo]

To put forward a simple explanation: TCP, or Transmission Control Protocol, uses a number of techniques (acknowledgements, control messages, retransmissions, sequence numbers etc.) to keep the packets ordered; TCP is the reason HTTP, FTP, e-mail, whatever - works; it ensures your message is delivered in whole, and ordered just as it left.

UDP, or User Datagram Protocol, has none of that.

TCP is meant to be used when you need to transmit data in a way that ensures no loss, but where time isn't critical. UDP is meant for use when time is critical, and the overlaying code can handle losses.

An e-mail message is a perfect example of something that needs to arrive in whole and ordered; thus, TCP.

[rapid hemlock]

games:UDP

ah

[blazing halo]

Player position every second is a great example for UDP - the server will be able to extrapolate if it needs to, and the packets (datagrams) become stale quickly. So, no great loss if you lose one or two.

@rapid hemlock still... if you have the ability to either accept incoming connections or set up a relay on the Internet,

you can set up a VPN and bypass the issue.

[rapid hemlock]

ah

oh one more thing

im getting this error

[blazing halo]

Yeah? And? ;D

[rapid hemlock]

im not sure what im supposed to do because I changed absolutely nothing

i cant get into the server

is what my problem is

[blazing halo]

Your server is updated to Experimental.

[rapid hemlock]

can I roll it back

or is there a way to prevent auto updates

[blazing halo]

The server itself - yes. The saves? No idea.

[rapid hemlock]

fuck

i guess ill just have to move to experimental

[blazing halo]

Did you keep your server switched to EX all this time?

[rapid hemlock]

I have no idea

[blazing halo]

(instead of switching back to EA when it was merged back from Update 6 EX)

This is the point where I say "And what have we learned?" :D

[rapid hemlock]

is there a way to opt out of experimental on the server side

so it only does public releases

[blazing halo]

Of course: don't include "-beta experimental" in the installation/update command.

[rapid hemlock]

ah

i see

[blazing halo]

(if you installed it via STEAM or EPIC,

[rapid hemlock]

i did via command line

[blazing halo]

If it refuses to switch back anyway, you may want to add -beta public.

Though personally?

I just keep the EA and EX servers in their own folders.

(and on their own ports)

[rapid hemlock]

im very confused

my point is

what file in what folder has to be modified

to change the launch argument

[blazing halo]

Which launch argument?

We're talking about launching the server now?

(instead of updating)

[rapid hemlock]

oh wait

hold on

im using systemctl

one sec

[blazing halo]

Ah, so you set it up to auto-update on each start?

Silly. ;]

[rapid hemlock]

lol

yea

i copy pasted the wiki commands

[blazing halo]

Well, there ya go. ;P

[rapid hemlock]

without looking

haha

thanks

[blazing halo]

And what have we learned here? :D

[rapid hemlock]

that i

have yet a lot to learn

🙂

[blazing halo]

And that it pays to read commands you copy & paste, before using them.

Which is something you really should do.

I could go on the Wiki and replace the install command with something that'll seriously break your system.

Before anyone notices and cares enough to correct it, a number of people may brick their systems.

Don't blindly trust stuff on the Internet.

[rapid hemlock]

wait

i did not input beta experimental

i just checked the systemctl command

[blazing halo]

Hmm... it's possible that it's detecting a higher build ID, so it's skipping updating (which, from its own point of view, would be a downgrade).

Add -beta public to the update command.

[rapid hemlock]

got it

thanks man

i didnt read the guide I was using to check if that argument was being used

thanks again for the help!

[blazing halo]

Sure.

[jolly bluff]

This is the only game I've lost connection to localhost lmao

[broken orbit]

Hopefully a quick one to answer: is there a dedicated server for update 7 out?
I'm unable to get it through Epic as it looks to be installing the base game instead https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1042118107847737354

[blazing halo]

Never played ARK, I see... xD

[blazing halo]

Yes, there is. Yes, EPIC dun goof'd again (last time it was serving the save server version on both channels). Use steamcmd.

[calm jacinth]

disconnecting every time it saves now but unchecking that box means we can pop back in

[grim mica]

You need to push out your timeout configs if its over 30s, you will no longer disconnect

[scarlet crater]

If I change the install directory of the satisfactory dedi server does that create a problem (the +force_install_dir switch)

I am thinking for example, one install directory for EA and one for Expirmental

[shadow meteor]

There were two server crashes during the construction of roads painted in the color of asphalt.

[thorn yarrow]

Guess I'll just throw it out there cause I'm curious if anyone else has done it before

Has anyone tried to use Box64 to run the satisfactory dedicated server on an Arm64 processor?

(At the risk of destroying my dreams)

[novel yarrow]

Someone did and it didn't went well...

[thorn yarrow]

Oof, well

I'll temper my expectations then.

Ah yeah, I see.

People are having issues with SteamCMD. So... Let's try the Epic version (even though that means I'll also have to run it in Wine.

[novel yarrow]

I see no issues with steamcmd, either U6 or U7, been running several such servers.

[thorn yarrow]

The issue is that SteamCMD is x86

Which means I either need box86 as well (I've been struggling with that)

[novel yarrow]

Just add i386 repo for dependencies.

[thorn yarrow]

to run steamcmd on arm64

[novel yarrow]

Pi 4 or better?

[thorn yarrow]

far better

don't worry, I made sure the specs track

I know the dedicated server is a pretty big resource hog.

[novel yarrow]

I'm working on offloading solution.

[thorn yarrow]

:nod:

[thorn yarrow]

Why does the dedicated server call SteamCMD anyway?

Sorry for the ping, accidental.

[novel yarrow]

You download DS engine via steamcmd, it also takes care on updates and verification of the files.

[thorn yarrow]

Ok, then this might actually work...

It kinda sucks that the epic game store doesn't have the linux server

but it makes it so I can avoid steamcmd by using legendary

[novel yarrow]

Is Epic even working on Linux ? O_o

[thorn yarrow]

Nope

https://github.com/derrod/legendary

but legendary does

Actually that's probably why

They don't have the linux server. Makes sense

Even though it makes me sad.

[novel yarrow]

You might be out of luck, since binary file is type: Engine/Binaries/Linux/UE4Server-Linux-Shipping: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 3.10.93 and You'll end up in emulation anyway.

[thorn yarrow]

I'm fully aware.

[mint junco]

Here's a new one.
The game crashed me out whilst I was riding a train back to the hub.
I can't load back in.

If I do I get a client UE4 crash with a 130 address error.
This... https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6373b93aca608e080352480e

I am trying to resave the game for my usual fix of moving the save over to the local pc.
Log in move to some remote location which is not built up, e.g. the swamp, resave and move the file back to the server.

I am unable to create a new save whatever I do... nice.

[blazing halo]

@thorn yarrow IIRC the issue is SSE4, which ARM doesn't cover.

There are translation layers, but they'd need to be baked into the executable. Otherwise, full-scale emulation.

[thorn yarrow]

@blazing halo @novel yarrow

On a free oracle server

Arm64

[kindred ginkgo]

hey anyone got an normal server i could join on

[thorn yarrow]

No promises on the performance yet though

[blazing halo]

Can you make a detailed explanation on how you got it working? I would be very interested in that.

[thorn yarrow]

I'm gonna need a break first

CPU utilization 60%

[blazing halo]

"A break", as in?

[thorn yarrow]

Memory also 60%

Dinner I've been obsessing over this all day

[blazing halo]

Oh.

No rush. Sometime this year would be cool.

[thorn yarrow]

This is the usage on a fresh server

1 person logged in

this was hell to set up XD

i'm so happy

and I only needed 4 compatibility layers

[mellow rain]

Hey all,
so I'm trying to set up a dedicated server on a reserve Win10 VM, I installed the server via SteamCMD, but when I start it up it automatically closes again. Based on the log it seems like it might miss some files, but I'm fairly new to setting up dedicated game servers 😅
I've tried the usual start PowerShell as admin, double check that it is allowed through FireWall, add multihome to command line
Any of you have any ideas?
Latest log:

[novel yarrow]

Unable to load module 'D3D11RHI' --> You're starting game client, not the server

[novel yarrow]

I'm working on totally different approach....

[thorn yarrow]

So you're spreading out your threads over multiple hosts?

[blazing halo]

If you're installing from EPIC - it's serving the game, not the server.

[mellow rain]

That's.. interesting
I'm starting the FactoryServer.exe I got when I ran the install command from the Wiki steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate +quit (yes, experimental is correct)

[blazing halo]

Hmm... interesting.

The log is from a server launch.

So... this is something else.

[2022.11.18-18.38.00:462][ 0]LogInit: Selected Device Profile: [WindowsServer] is proof enough

Ah, how about this?

-MultiHome=192 .168.10.72

See that extra space?

Also, it's "multihome" not "MultiHome". Windows doesn't care, Linux might.

[novel yarrow]

This is single system spanned over multiple hosts 🙂 Yeah, but that requires some serious low-latency network bandwidth... like 100Gb+ since data is accessed between nodes.

[mellow rain]

Huh, that would explain why the command suddenly turned white while typing, though there is no space in the command..
It's also Windows so shouldn't matter but I'll try in all lowercase

[thorn yarrow]

Zero-width whitespace

[thorn yarrow]

Apparently box64 does have partial support for SSE4

Maybe that's why?

#RustIsMyLowestCodeLevel

[mellow rain]

I mean, I can't find any to delete there, deletes straight from the . to the 2 with backspace..

[thorn yarrow]

Strange

[mellow rain]

Alright, seems to work with the IP surrounded by ' (has been up for a while now), though it appears the game version is wrong yay

[full vector]

game just updated half an hour ago, gotta make sure the server does as well

[mellow rain]

Ahh, nice timing

[blazing halo]

Yeah, I just ran into that myself. :D

I update both via steamcmd, so I don't care... but this time I was making a lil' write up and went through the process on the client end. :D

[calm jacinth]

what file is it in and what line?

i glanced through half a dozen of them and couldn't find anything related

[mellow rain]

Everything works awesomely now btw, thanks everyone ❤️

[blazing halo]

Well, it looks like the latest update fixed the naming thing. You can't put in characters such as /, \, ? or * any more.

It also looks like the categories themselves aren't saved as a disk path...

And yes, this does have the side-effect of having to have unique names across all categories.

• Fixed being able to save Blueprints with invalid characters in the filename
They seem to have indeed fixed it, yes...

And here I was, hoping to test out some OS-breaking shenanigans this evening... xD

[next smelt]

When I load my server which is setup on a local linux machine, I get this error [2022.11.18-19.58.35:971][ 22]LogOnline: Warning: OSS: EOSSDK-LogEOSEcom: Purchase flow is disabled due to overlay setup failure (EOS_NotConfigured). Which, upon a google, tells me that I need to allow ports through the firewall which i have done (for 15777, 15000, and 7777)... however the server still wont load through this point

Likewise, I shouldn't need to port forward on router since I'm using this on LAN

[blazing halo]

No, no, no.

That has nothing to do with forwarding ports. :D

[next smelt]

hmm so how I fix

[blazing halo]

Which module is reporting the error? Hint - it's right in the name.

[next smelt]

EOS?

[blazing halo]

EOSSDK-LogEOSECom

or

[next smelt]

what is EOS

[blazing halo]

Epic Online Services Software Development Kit - Log EOS E-Commerce

aka microtransactions

aka it can't connect to the online store to process payments.

But this game DOES NOT have microtransactions! - you say.

And you are right. It doesn't.

And so, the reason for the error is given too: EOS_NotConfigured

[next smelt]

Epic just doing epic shit

[blazing halo]

No.

The reason is "NotConfigured".

I.e. it was never set up to begin with.

Because the game doesn't use it.

[next smelt]

???

So then how do I set it up

[blazing halo]

You don't.

That message means nothing.

In fact, it's often the last thing that the server prints after completing startup, so we use it to check if the server has finished loading.

The reason you see no further lines

is because the server has nothing more to say right now.

It's running.

[next smelt]

ahhhh

okay

[blazing halo]

:)

Connect to it,

and you'll see all sorts of chatter.

:D

[next smelt]

Just needed to reconnecty

for some reason, even though it was fully loaded, it was telling me that the server was offline. Just need a kick in the ass i suspect

thanks, i appreciate it

Wow the upload save feature is nice

[blazing halo]

It is. I wish they added a download save feature. Because it needs a friend.

[next smelt]

I concur

So if i change creature hostility from the client does it get saved on the server? since im admin auth?

[blazing halo]

Be aware: most "warnings" the game spits out (and even a lot of "errors") should've really been INFO level. There are two kinds of messages the server emits: a server message (those you need to pay attention to), and a game logic message (which is what the overwhelming majority are).

[frank stag]

tf is wrong with epic

[blazing halo]

Since you're admin, it will.

[next smelt]

okay thanks. was wondering whether i needed to change that in some config

[blazing halo]

Do you want the list alphabetically or by weight?

😂

[frank stag]

They originally replaced their DS app with the game app, and they just updated the mistaken upload to match today's patch

still not replacing it w/ the actual DS app

As far as I can tell there's no way to alert them to their error through the epic games app OR website

[blazing halo]

Well, they clearly don't want to talk to you...

But STEAM is pretty much the same. Whenever I need to raise an issue that falls under a category they don't want to talk about,

I just go into finances and claim that I can't find my funds, or that some other wallet-related issue exists.

They have to reply to those. xD

"Now that I have your attention..."

😂

[fringe lance]

is anyone having any issues since todays update?

[frank stag]

the automated trucks in my playthrough are completely busted

they return to the same pathing node and just forward/reverse on repeat, I'll try re-recording the route

Same behavior after a re-record, rip

[blazing halo]

Meanwhile, if you put an empty file named whatever.sbp in your blueprints, it'll reliably crash the server on client load. Me 0.5, game 2 - because I have been unable to either a) traverse the filesystem (they fixed it in this update) so far, and b) crash the game reliably by using an illegal name anyway via memory editing.

And 0.5, because you need to place that file there first. But if someone hands you a blueprint, check it's not 0 bytes. ;]

[grim mica]

The wiki (https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers/Configuration_files) lists the timeout settings under "Client disconnected for Timeout", I set this on both the server and client engine.ini and stopped getting disconnected during long autosaves

[blazing halo]

Yes, both sides need to have this set, though the client side is actually more important, as that is the party that's deciding it's been "too long".

[calm jacinth]

😐

what happens if it isn't the same on both?

[blazing halo]

Depends on the situation.

Either side may decide that a connection has timed out.

[calm jacinth]

the one i mainly want to address is dropping during server save taking >30 seconds

just changing server side would fix that?

[fringe lance]

Game is still broken for dedicated servers

[novel yarrow]

You need adjust connectiontimeout time on both ends, since client is waiting for server, and server is dropping player 😄

[blazing halo]

The server actually isn't dropping the player... that's the thing. :D

The client assumes that's what happened.

[blazing halo]

That drop actually happens client-side, because the server isn't available to comment. ;P

[fringe lance]

when u build a blueprint an then relog into server the blueprint is invisible but when u try an dismantle invisible building u can see the orange outline of the buildings

[blazing halo]

(when saving/loading the game, the server does not reply at all)

[blazing halo]

Which flavour of "broken" would that be? Because I'm having fun on mine right now.

[fringe lance]

so u can build a blueprint then relog into server an u can see the blueprint u built?

[shadow dock]

What ports do I open for server?

5222 still or 15777?

[reef snow]

@blazing halo can leggo and I join the server you're in and test performance- if it's working for you then that's a miracle

Not working for us at all

[blazing halo]

Oh. I'm not using blueprints at all. That might explain it. :D

[reef snow]

I see

[blazing halo]

And hm... I suppose you can? If you can manage it. I'm probably far away, and my NAT might not like you. xD

[foggy shoal]

Does anyone know how to up the timeout timer for long saves?

[blazing halo]

See the link in the channel's topic. It's there somewhere.

[foggy shoal]

Okay thanks

[next vapor]

any fix in sight for belts?

they seem to look fine when clogged, but every moving belt is broken

[grim musk]

Anyone else not able to place blueprints? The player whose PC the dedicated server is hosted on can, but I click and nothing happens

[silk raptor]

It's just visual, isn't it?

[next vapor]

yes and no. it prevents you from being able to pull things off of belts because the client doesnt actually render the items

[broken orbit]

Epic DS Experimental updated...but it's still the game version

[proper trout]

9.6GB for Dedicated server is that right?

was 19.xx until I reinstalled it

[tiny idol]

CL#208572 for the game version

[proper trout]

Hmm 19.85GB and Version 208572.102

[tiny idol]

guess we'll have to wait a bit longer for them to fix the epic dedi install :l

[odd crown]

Or you could use steamcmd

[pliant agate]

would it be worth setting up a dedicated server for single player? just so the world could run while you aren't on?

eg on a home server

if anyone has/is doing this lmk id be interested to know your experience with it

probably not

but for some reason that makes it sound more fun to try

[novel yarrow]

This is how I got the End Game solo. Just producing goods at slow rate...

[pliant agate]

yeah that was my thought too, dont have to build giant megafactories that way

suppose it depends on the resources the ds chews, server still has to run other stuff too

[novel yarrow]

I had only 16GB available for 2 game servers installed on one container; it was enough.

[pliant agate]

Ahh, ram should be ok then, looking at the wiki I think ill need a cpu uprade... "favours high single core", ive only got 2ghz xeons in my server, crap

[novel yarrow]

Depends, for solo game and small (+/-50k objects) map Xeon this type may be enough. Have L-series and loaded my map just fine .. but main server runs on high clocked i7.

[pliant agate]

only one way to find out i guess! too late at night to be bothered doing that now, but ill have to have a play with it tomorrow

[novel yarrow]

Setup another server on Linux container or bare-metal host is pretty simple; once deployed systemd takes care on autostart and shutdown correctly.

[pliant agate]

perfect thanks, hopefully it all works well, else i might look to run on bare metal on another server (have way too many old dell optiplex's, bit of a ram upgrade and they should work well)

[blazing halo]

It does, actually! Sort of. ;D

A clue is given when you take a look at elevators.

[blazing halo]

It's what I do. Mainly because I hate the idea of the world not existing just because I'm not there. ;P

Yes, I'm touched in the head. ;D

[blazing halo]

I notice you didn't say what game servers, and when this was... 1999? 😂

[novel yarrow]

7d2d + SF DS in single container

[blazing halo]

Yes, that explains it - 7D2D has much lower RAM requirements. :D

The way you said it, it sounded like you managed to run two Satisfactory server instances at the same time with a 16 GiB allocation. Which... also could've made sense, if they were U5.

But U5 was two major EPIC distribution FUBARs ago. :D

[novel yarrow]

Google: kernel same-page merging (KSM)

[rotund locust]

are blueprints working on any other dedicated servers?

[blazing halo]

They're working on mine.

[blazing halo]

Ah, yes - been meaning to do that. I actually kinda expected the OS to do this for the game regardless, since it'd be in the purview of the memory manager.

[odd crown]

I copied mine from a single player game to my dedicated earlier to check, and it appears that works now as well

[rotund locust]

where do i put them i am having trouble replicating that

[odd crown]

savegames > Blueprints > Session name

[rotund locust]

i did that and they dont show up weird

[odd crown]

On the DS that is

[rotund locust]

i thought i put them in the wrong place

guess i didnt

[odd crown]

You need them where the server saves savegames in case you were in doubt. I've for now not tried having them only on the server, not on the client and seeing if that works

So I have them both on client and server for my trials

[rotund locust]

i did that aswell

[odd crown]

Sounds it must be in the wrong place then somehow... I assume you unlocked them

[rotund locust]

yep

but whenever i try to save one in game it just crashes

the client at least

[odd crown]

I've not actually tried editing them. Let me change the server save and do some testing in that regard. The patch before yesterday I loaded them up in the builder and builded some and they were just empty so this was already a big leap in comparison

[blazing halo]

It seems that saving (some?) blueprints crashes people's games at the moment.

Since it doesn't happen to everyone and not all are affected... it's possible it has to do with what is in the blueprint.

Have you tried saving a blueprint with one foundation in it, and nothing else?

(as a debug)

[rotund locust]

i did it with only a beam

[blazing halo]

Try a foundation. I tried a conveyor pole, and it saved without issue. Same with constructors, belts, and spliters/mergers.

[rotund locust]

i will in a second the other person on my server just died

[blazing halo]

Heh

• 911, what is the nature of your emergency?
• JOHNNY IS CHASING ME!!!

[odd crown]

Yea saving seems fine for some of my BPs

[blazing halo]

If it works for some, but not others - it's a bug.

Wait for a patch.

Alternatively, find QA postings, see which ones match your particular issue, and upvote them.

[odd crown]

Yes yes. I was just giving feedback to the question i was asked 😄

[blazing halo]

Cool.

[rotund locust]

turnes out he nuked himself a decent jog away ill need a few

[blazing halo]

... ah, yes. Having other people in your game certainly makes life interesting.

[odd crown]

Honestly other people need to just stop dying 😛

[rotund locust]

i was parking my explorer and the server crashed

alright about to test it out

[blazing halo]

The person that has never died doing something incredibly stupid is allowed to throw the first rock, yes? ;]

For instance, I set up my base right near a uranium rock, this time around. Took me five lives to clear it up.

[rotund locust]

hmmm

[blazing halo]

Oh, you've found the new gas-operated suspension!

It's new in U7.

They're still trying to figure out how to make the player move with the chassis.

[odd crown]

Oh I have died and saved myself from incredibly stupid things. ||Let's ignore the beacon that was in a game with a friend that literally just said "HELP ME"||

[rotund locust]

i got out then back in and went through the floor and had to reload save

[blazing halo]

I once got stuck in the underworld, with no way to get out, and all my damn coupons.

Let the record show that my crate is still there.

TAUNTING ME.

[rotund locust]

single foundation didnt work

[blazing halo]

A crash as well?

Can you provide a log?

[rotund locust]

no crash just didnt save

[blazing halo]

Hmm...

Dumb question, but...

... does your server have permission to create directories in the save location?

(and write to them)

[rotund locust]

probably its on my game drive

how do i check?

[blazing halo]

Depends on the host OS.

[rotund locust]

windows

[blazing halo]

Remember, server-side blueprints are saved on the server.

[rotund locust]

does it make a difference that i boot it from the file instead of from steam?

[blazing halo]

Not really, no.

If you installed via steamcmd, it doesn't care about STEAM. If you installed it via STEAM, it will invoke STEAM regardless.

I think. I haven't actually tried.

[rotund locust]

I installed it on both

[blazing halo]

Uhhh, what?

[rotund locust]

i couldn't update steamcmd to beta so i installed it on normal steam

[blazing halo]

Why couldn't you?

Also, it's generally not a great idea to have a mess like that... but in theory, it shouldn't be breaking anything...

[rotund locust]

error subscription not available or something

but they are both on completely different drives

[blazing halo]

As far as saves go, that doesn't matter.

The saves are always kept in the user's home directory, in AppData.

If all of them run under the same user, they will see the same saves/blueprints.

[rotund locust]

should i uninstall one of them?

[blazing halo]

You should, and manage your shit better,

but in terms of what your current issue is?

I don't think it's making a difference. :)

[rotund locust]

this is the first dedicated server ive ever hosted sorry

[naive raft]

did you set it up while looking at the wiki guide? i found it very helpful

[rotund locust]

yes

[naive raft]

and by beta do you mean experimental?

[rotund locust]

yes sorry

[naive raft]

it should be -beta experimental

for your beta tag
-beta public is early access