#dedicated-servers

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polar quartz
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:bruh:

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Oh well, his about says, don't ask, just ask xD

blazing halo
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;)

marble gull
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before the update i had a dedicated server running through my computer so that my friends can join i port forwarded the beacon server and the connect port through my router config all on UDP. i updated the steamcmd and re-did the whole process for opening up the server with the .bat file and such.

I put in my public ip through servermanager and it says "it appears to be offline"

before the update I had everything working, and my friends and I worked through all tiers to 8.

Now nothing is working I need help >_<

blazing halo
marble gull
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This is how i have it running on UDP and the crossed red is my ipv4

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blazing halo
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LAN = local area network, i.e. the network your PC is in.

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Like, at home, or whatever.

marble gull
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Yeah this is at home

blazing halo
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Coo'.

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Now,

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are you trying to tell me

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that you're trying to connect to your WAN IP

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from inside your LAN?

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*snaps fingers* I just came up with the perfect analogy to doing that!

marble gull
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Im trying to connect to the public ip address

blazing halo
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Then what you're trying to do

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is wipe your ass through your mouth, stomach, and gut.

marble gull
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xD

blazing halo
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Counter-productive. :D

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It's the perfect analogy,

marble gull
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okay now what's the real solution?

blazing halo
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because you're contacting the WAN side,

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so that it can guide you back into your LAN...

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So it's LAN -> WAN -> LAN

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at which point the router doesn't really know what the fuck to do with it.

marble gull
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So what ip am i putting in?

late coral
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At that point you need to get a better router

blazing halo
marble gull
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to connect to the dedicated one

blazing halo
marble gull
blazing halo
marble gull
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I can connect when i put in ipv4 address

polar quartz
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I am going to be difficult, is there any way to set this using a config file 😅 Thanks for your help btw

marble gull
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it shows for them that it's offline

blazing halo
blazing halo
marble gull
blazing halo
late coral
blazing halo
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It also doesn't seem to like any tunnels (tried plain nc and socat, others have tried reverse-proxy over nginx - no dice).

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It also doesn't seem to want to work with its own tunnel.... 🤣

late coral
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Have not tried tunneling myself

blazing halo
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Have had questions here about it.

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People are reluctant to showcase their home IPs for some reason. 😂

marble gull
late coral
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Through VPN works fine, have tried that (VPN server on other machine in same LAN as SF Dedi)

blazing halo
late coral
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The infamous double (CG)NAT twister

blazing halo
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Yeah, it works over VPN for me as well - but that actually bridges the two networks in a seamless way.

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Well, more or less. Depends on how you have it set up.

marble gull
blazing halo
late coral
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Should also be possible to traverse a double NAT that way, have the router on the inside VPN tunnel it's way out to a location which has only single NAT, set-up the forwarding to the Dedi in the router on the VPN host side.

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But this will sound like black magic to the uninitiated

blazing halo
marble gull
blazing halo
late coral
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That does look like a WAN IP

marble gull
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idk sharing my ipaddress is all wak to me xD

blazing halo
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Yup.

late coral
blazing halo
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tf

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NetType:        IANA Special Use
Organization:   Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA)
Comment:        This block is used as Shared Address Space. Traffic from these addresses does not come from IANA. IANA has simply reserved these numbers in its database and does not use or operate them. We are not the source of activity you may see on logs or in e-mail records. Please refer to www.iana.org/abuse/
Comment:        Shared Address Space can only be used in Service Provider networks or on routing equipment that is able to do address translation across router interfaces when addresses are identical on two different interfaces.
Comment:        This block was assigned by the IETF in the Best Current Practice document,
Comment:        RFC 6598 which can be found at:
Comment:        tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6598
Ref:            rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/100.64.0.0
late coral
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And to combat spam no links other than mod approved domains

blazing halo
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There.

blazing halo
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Your private network (LAN) is inside another private network (LAN) that belongs to your ISP.

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You're behind CGNAT, my friend.

late coral
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2 options: cheap ISP, or on a university? Campus

marble gull
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aka nasa internet

blazing halo
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At any rate, you cannot host public Internet services without a public IP address.

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You will need to contact your ISP and ask them to assign you a public IP. You may need to explain your reasons.

late coral
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Also why I really only take an ISP serious when the offer IPv6

blazing halo
late coral
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Situation here in the Netherlands is marginally better

blazing halo
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My ISP has been "working on it" since 2012. 🤣

late coral
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It's been ready for production use at least since 2002...

blazing halo
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I bet it's taking this long because nobody is actually working on it... and that's likely because maybe 100 people ever asked for it.

blazing halo
marble gull
late coral
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IPv6 is really the same as IPv4 from a technical perspective. Only difference is the address space is all but infinite

blazing halo
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The way of thinking changes, though. You no longer think "this router is my public face", each PC has its own. You can still play gatekeeper at the router if you wish, but it makes some sense to do it at the target machine instead.

marble gull
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when I hosted my dedicated server I simply gave them my public IP address and they were able to connect perfectly

late coral
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You got "upgraded" to CG-NAT I guess

marble gull
late coral
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Yes

blazing halo
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I have some fairly complex rules on my packet filter, and I like to think I know what's going on and that I have it in one place. I'm still worried how that's going to look with IPv6.

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And the fact that shits like Satisfactory play with IPv6 fire and get burned ... doesn't help.

late coral
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The way of thinking has evolved a bit with IPv6, you have a network address, and potentially all endpoint addresses may be used as a public one.
Basic rule is to block everything by default, then only allow traverse with a satefull firewall, or when rules are explicitly set.

blazing halo
late coral
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No NAT involved with IPv6

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Or buy or even lease v4 addresses

blazing halo
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That's the thing: we're out of IPv4. They're all in private hands.

late coral
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Yup

blazing halo
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So unless you want to pay $5mln for a pool... xD

marble gull
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My server was running fine 4months ago so 2022 still using the ipv4 ipaddress and worked fine for me

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Maybe cos i recently upgraded my internet to ftp, I was originally on ftc

late coral
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And every single one shouting that they can't switch to IPv6 because it's so difficult an d different, well, in my very humble opinion, the have mouldy sawdust for a brain.

marble gull
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my only last option is to just cal my providers but i can't seem to find any other fault from my end from what you're saying

blazing halo
marble gull
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so i just ask kindly for a public ip address

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gotchya

late coral
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At least 95% of customers have no need for a public routable IPv4 address

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Except those hosting a server (be it mail or game or anything else)

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Fun fact: my ISP even offers a public IPv4 subnet for 4 consecutive IPv4 addresses (for an extra fee)

blazing halo
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I wish I could get that. :/

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Mine only assigns public IPv4 on request, with an explanation, and they're dynamic.

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They used to offer 1 static IP (4 for business customers) at a fee, but they no longer do.

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The price was also fairly high... if I pay $20/mo, the IP address was something like $150/mo.

late coral
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🤯

tranquil briar
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hmm, if i login as steam user and do the verify command manualy the update seems to workl

late coral
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Even more luxurious actually: can get a /29 for €17/mo and get 8 consecutive IPs 2 of which are reserved for network and broadcast, and you need one more for the router itself. So you end up with 5 addresses to use for hosts

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But really: switch to IPv6 already!

blazing halo
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I will, once my ISP does. ;P

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Which probably means "I'll revisit the idea in 2 years."

velvet reef
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Our newest fiber ISP here is putting everyone on IPv4 CGNAT, but they'll give you a normal IP if you ask and don't even charge for it. Absolutely no IPv6 support though, which is unfortunate given that the other local cable ISP offers it, but they have much worse service.

primal spindle
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there is a way to retrieve a save file to put it in a other server?

blazing halo
primal spindle
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scp

blazing halo
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I suppose.

primal spindle
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where is located?

late coral
glad pasture
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Does anyone know how to resolve these warnings? my server won't start up

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[2022.09.22-15.28.05:541][ 0]LogNet: Created socket for bind address: 0.0.0.0 on port 15000
[2022.09.22-15.28.05:541][ 0]PacketHandlerLog: Loaded PacketHandler component: DTLSHandlerComponent ()
[2022.09.22-15.28.05:541][ 0]PacketHandlerLog: Loaded PacketHandler component: Engine.EngineHandlerComponentFactory (StatelessConnectHandlerComponent)
[2022.09.22-15.28.05:542][ 0]LogNet: IpNetDriver_2147468913 IpNetDriver_2147468913 IpNetDriver listening on port 15000
[2022.09.22-15.28.05:577][ 0]LogLoad: Took 29.106477 seconds to LoadMap(/Game/FactoryGame/Map/GameLevel01/Persistent_Level)
[2022.09.22-15.28.05:578][ 0]LogNet: UNetDriver::TickDispatch: Very long time between ticks. DeltaTime: 0.03, Realtime: 28.07. EOSNetDriver_2147482346
[2022.09.22-15.28.05:621][ 1]LogOnline: Warning: OSS: EOSSDK-LogEOSP2P: NAT Detection failed, unable to resolve host
[2022.09.22-15.28.05:623][ 1]LogNet: UNetDriver::TickDispatch: Very long time between ticks. DeltaTime: 29.15, Realtime: 0.05. IpNetDriver_2147468913
[2022.09.22-15.28.05:623][ 1]LogNet: UNetDriver::TickDispatch: Very long time between ticks. DeltaTime: 29.15, Realtime: 0.05. EOSNetDriver_2147482346
[2022.09.22-15.28.05:791][ 7]LogOnline: Warning: OSS: EOSSDK-LogEOSAnalytics: EOS SDK Analytics disabled for route [1].
[2022.09.22-15.28.06:054][ 15]LogOnline: Warning: OSS: EOSSDK-LogEOSEcom: Purchase flow is disabled due to overlay setup failure (EOS_NotConfigured).
[2022.09.22-15.28.06:055][ 15]LogOnline: Warning: OSS: EOSSDK-LogEOSUI: Social overlay is disabled due to overlay setup failure (EOS_UnexpectedError).

late coral
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server running fine otherwise?

blazing halo
glad pasture
blazing halo
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As for P2P NAT detection... CSS misconfigured it, so it's broken.

glad pasture
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I had it working a few months ago

blazing halo
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At any rate, those warnings are of no consequence. Most of us use them as a signal that the server finished loading. xDDD

glad pasture
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Oh lol

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How do I connect to it then?

blazing halo
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Where is your server? LAN?

glad pasture
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Yes it’s on a separate computer but I can’t connect to it on lan and I doubt my friends can connect to it

primal spindle
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in the file /FactoryGame/Saved/ i don't have the /SaveGames
i just have the config and logs file

blazing halo
primal spindle
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i'm in the /home/steam/satisfactory/FactoryGame/Saved

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my logs file have the log and the FactoryGame-Backup of my previus game but not the save

glad pasture
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still says server appears to be offline for me

blazing halo
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If you can't see the .config folder, you can try navigating to it by directly writing the path in the browser, creating a link to it (if your UI allows you to specify the path directly), or you can ask your hosting provider to make it available to you.

primal spindle
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merci😁

stone ocean
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Hello, Im trying to setup dedicated server on my lan. Ive followed all the instruction on the wiki

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But when my friend tries to join the ip adress the server apears to be offline.

junior birch
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just checking back after being away for a while but do dedicated servers support modding yet?

native osprey
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So my server seems to be stuck on Private? wont let me change it?

blazing halo
blazing halo
junior birch
native osprey
blazing halo
junior birch
blazing halo
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All existing mods rely on a "glue" mod (mod loader) that was created by the community before servers existed.

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It's that that needs to be made compatible with the servers, not the other way around.

native osprey
blazing halo
junior birch
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yeah im aware of all that was more or less asking if SMM would work but now that im reading more i cant find any info on it

blazing halo
native osprey
blazing halo
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In order to host a server in your network, you need a PC that can handle running the server connected to your network. It seems you already have that.

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In order for your LAN server to be Internet-accessible, a few extra things need to exist.

native osprey
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yea thinking its ports now

blazing halo
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a) your WAN IP (the IP facing the Internet) must be public, and

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b) your router must have ports assigned (1:1) that redirect traffic to your LAN server (also known as "port forwarding").

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And finally - all clients must connect using the IP appropriate for their network. For you, that's your LAN IP. For everyone outside your network - that's your public WAN IP.

native osprey
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trying diffrent port

blazing halo
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That will not help.

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If you did it correctly, changing the port won't change anything.

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If you did it wrong, changing the port also won't change a thing if you do it wrong again.

native osprey
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i had it on 15778, and no one could connect

blazing halo
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Okay. So, let's start from the top. Is your server inside your local network?

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(if we've already established any of these facts, do remind me)

native osprey
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yep, I can play it just fine. I forwarded 27000 and trying this one now

blazing halo
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Okay. So the server is on your LAN, and you can connect over LAN.

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Is your WAN IP public?

native osprey
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yep

blazing halo
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How did you verify this?

native osprey
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i have 4 other servers running

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its only this game having issues

blazing halo
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Okay.

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Then add -multihome=0.0.0.0 or whatever LAN IP you have on the server machine (depending on whether you want it to listen on all interfaces, or just this one).

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I hope you're not fond of IPv6.

native osprey
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i hate ipv6 for servers

blazing halo
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WAIT HALT STOP

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you can connect via LAN

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  • so that's not needed.
native osprey
blazing halo
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But... you can try it.

native osprey
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thats my run config

blazing halo
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Okay. So you need to forward ports 15000, 15777, and 27000.

native osprey
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ok i see him connecting

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but he times out

blazing halo
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Read above.

native osprey
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ok adding 15000

blazing halo
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The server uses three ports. You can configure all three via -BeaconPort, -ServerQueryPort and -Port.

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By default, Beacon = 15000, Query = 15777, Game (Port) = 7777.

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All are UDP. Forward UDP only.

native osprey
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yea conan exiles uses 7777 so had to changfe it

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hmm now i cant connect

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same thing hes getting

blazing halo
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CONAN Exiles can also have its ports configured.

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I pretty much never use the default ports - primarily because most games use the same default ones. STEAM's default are 7777 and 27015.

native osprey
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yea may do that if need be. Crashed server and restarted

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what is EOS not configured? I get that warning everytime i start game

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server*

blazing halo
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You didn't "crash" the server, at best you killed it.

native osprey
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yea murdered it

blazing halo
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Barring very specific circumstances, you can't actually crash anything on purpose -- the entire point of a "crash" is that it's unwanted and unexpected.

native osprey
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sesion id is always blank now when i load the save

blazing halo
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I would recommend you this configuration: -ServerQueryPort=27000 -BeaconPort=27001 -Port=27002 -- you would then add your game with port 20000 to the manager.

native osprey
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ok looks like 15000 might been it

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hhe got in this time

native osprey
blazing halo
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Sure.

stone ocean
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Could you help me aswell?

blazing halo
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It's why I'm here...

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I mean, nobody's paying me. ;]

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You get... what you pay for. Potentially. ;P

blazing halo
stone ocean
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Im trying to setup dedicated server aswell. I followed the wiki but failed..

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I forwarded ports on my router 15000 15777 and 7777. loaded up a save and joined succesfully. but for a friend it apears to be offline.

blazing halo
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Okay.

blazing halo
stone ocean
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How do I check that?

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Im a complete noob on networking stuff

blazing halo
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That's unfortunate, but oh well.

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Log into your router, and find the WAN IP address. Note it down.

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Tell me if these two values match or not.

lapis tundra
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That's fair, Networking stuff is complicated.

stone ocean
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WAN stands for?

blazing halo
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The Internet-facing interface of your router.

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I can't tell you where in your router's WebUI it will be, or what it will be called, because every goddamn router manufacturer dances to their own fucking tune.

stone ocean
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public ipv4 adress is diffrent shown on cmd ip config's ipv4 adress

blazing halo
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Note that you need to verify this on your router's WAN port, not on your PC's port.

glad pasture
stone ocean
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Start local adress is that it?

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found inside the router.

lapis tundra
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Wide Area Network I believe WAN stands for.

turbid juniper
stone ocean
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@blazing halo IPv4 adress shown on the router is the same shown on whatsmyip.

blazing halo
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Because if so, I've figured out what the potential issue is/was - but I can't contribute there, because it's already closed. Specifically - the server won't load the save until the first connection if it's configured to pause with 0 players.

blazing halo
stone ocean
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it also tells information about lease time

blazing halo
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What's your launch command?

stone ocean
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FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended

blazing halo
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Okay. Try adding -DisablePacketRouting at the end there.

stone ocean
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So my friend trys to join trough the public ip on port 15777?

blazing halo
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Yes.

stone ocean
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hes telling me server name pending.

blazing halo
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Server log please.

stone ocean
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and just now on my end server went offline

blazing halo
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Client log please.

blazing halo
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And/or crash log (the context XML file).

blazing halo
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Yeah, you will need to find and provide the crash log. This one cuts out.

stone ocean
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where is the crashlog located?

blazing halo
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Somewhere around the logs. It'll be named CrashLogs or so.

stone ocean
blazing halo
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... okay?

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So it hasn't crashed?

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It looks like it's running.

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AAAAAHHH gotcha

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you're in Select Mode!

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Hit ENTER on that window. It'll bring it back to life.

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You have to be careful with CMD windows, because right-clicking or selecting text (with the mouse) puts them in Select Mode, where they will stop activity until you're done.

stone ocean
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its doesnt change anything.

blazing halo
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Screenshot please.

stone ocean
blazing halo
stone ocean
blazing halo
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Okay. Close the game (keep the server running) and reopen it. It sometimes gets stubborn.

stone ocean
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If it apears to be online I can connect fine

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just my friend is not able to add it to his server list

blazing halo
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Is he using the correct IP?

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You know what? DM me the IP and port.

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None of the ports seem to be forwarded on that IP.

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Can you show me your port forwards? Like, a screenshot?

ornate fern
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Hey, anyone know how to increase tickrate on server?

glad pasture
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the computer im hosting on lets me use localhost to join my server

blazing halo
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The Internet is essentially a network of networks. Computers need unique addresses to "talk" to each other - but they need to be unique in the relevant space.

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So, the Internet connects routers like yours to each other.

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If you have a "public" IP, for example, that means that your router's WAN interface (network card) is connected directly to the Internet.

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If you don't, that means there's one or more routers between yours and the Internet.

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Now, the idea of a "publically routable" address (i.e. public address) is that a path can be found to that address from anywhere on the Internet.

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Your local LAN addresses are not publicly routable, for example - they only mean anything inside your LAN.

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A "router" is a device that translates between two (or more) networks.

glad pasture
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would it matter if my router is connected to a modem? I am pretty sure I port forwarded properly

blazing halo
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Connected how?

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This may be important, because ISP-provided devices often have a router built into them. If you have a second router, that would likely complicate things, depending on the setup.

glad pasture
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the wan port on my router is connected to one of the lan ports on my modem

blazing halo
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"one of"

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What sort of modem is it?

glad pasture
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fios

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verizon

blazing halo
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You have two routers, yes.

glad pasture
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so i need to port forward through that then

blazing halo
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Can you log into both?

blazing halo
glad pasture
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ill try to log in to the modem, the router is mine and the modem is my mom but im sure she left everything at default

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do i need to use a pc connected to the modem to get onto it or can i use the one connected to the router which is connected to the modem?

blazing halo
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Doesn't matter, as long as you have the local IP of the modem. :)

glad pasture
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im in

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ok i think ive done the dmz host now

ornate fern
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Hey, does anyone know how to increase the tickrate on a Dedicated Server for steam?

blazing halo
glad pasture
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thank you very much @blazing halo I got the server up and running

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i need to reset the authentication password but the instructions for that are on the wiki

drifting otter
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Is there a way to turn off player damage to other players on dedicated servers?

blazing halo
blazing halo
turbid juniper
blazing halo
turbid juniper
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Hour or more of play time.

swift delta
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anyone else having problems with radars not showing on maps?

lilac ledge
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@blazing halo with todays EA client patch, we would also go into the DS console UI and update it there as well, yes? You talked about keeping parity yesterday.

turbid juniper
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So while in game we have no real issues. If one of us disconnects then it will only let one player reconnect. Everyone else trying to connect times out. Then if we reload the last save everyone can connect again.

loud minnow
turbid juniper
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Never had that problem with U5. 100s of hours of play

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Same server

blazing halo
blazing halo
loud minnow
blazing halo
turbid juniper
blazing halo
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I mean, beyond those, because I've seen them already.

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They're also not complete run logs, as they have been edited by you (presumably).

turbid juniper
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pastebin would not accept the complete log so I grabbed the tail of the log from between login in attempts.

lilac ledge
# blazing halo Not sure what "DS console UI" is. The vanilla DS doesn't have a UI beyond the ga...

So for my rental server, I login and get their webpage where I can start/stop the server, etc. I disabled automatic updates on this page as well thinking that if there was a difference between dedicated version and EA client version, I wouldn’t be able to play. It seems like todays patch doesn’t create a difference there, yes? Patching my rental DS is safe and will continue parity with EA game client.

blazing halo
blazing halo
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Also - they're text files, so they should zip very well.

amber bane
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Is anyone able to help me here.
I just rented a server from ShockByte, I connect to the Server through the server manager. But once I click on join, the server crashes and I get a Connection Timeout. I have never been able to login once to it.

I can provide Log Files

blazing halo
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@turbid juniper I have received your logs. Any particular times you want to point out to me?

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Or specific files/file pairs?

turbid juniper
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I would look at the most recent from today.

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Look around time 19.52. That was when I was experimenting with how to get connected

blazing halo
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You never answered my question, but judging by the time difference between server start and save state loading, I assume you have the server configured to be paused when it's empty?

turbid juniper
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Yes I do. I will try turning it off.

blazing halo
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At the very least, it should cause the server to load a save immediately upon startup, letting you skip the whole "timeout on first connection" issue.

turbid juniper
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Like I said earlier. Once connected the game runs fine. It is only connecting that is the issue.

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It may actually be the recovering from pause that is causing the issue. Because if I load cold from a save we can connect no issues. It is only when retuning to the game without reloading that we cannot reconnect.

blazing halo
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One thing that would confirm this would be finding the server load the game on first connection after inactivity.

turbid juniper
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So is this where I report such an issue or is there a better place?

blazing halo
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Hold back on that, because it's very likely that this isn't actually fixable.

turbid juniper
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We did not have this issue in U5 using pause.

blazing halo
turbid juniper
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If you have a couple of scenarios that you would like me to try I can wipe the logs and try each test and zip up the logs.

blazing halo
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From what I can see in the log, the game does indeed unload when everyone leaves.

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Okay. So it looks like loading the game is taking quite a bit of time - 20 seconds on my current mid-game (but low-build) setup.

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In comparison, saving takes only 0.45 seconds.

swift delta
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Has anyone else had problems with things not showing in the map on the dedicated servers.. i cant see my radar towers or my drone ports.. nor do i have the players tab any more

blazing halo
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So it looks like the issue is that a lot of the burden has been moved from saving to loading - and if the load is any bigger, it exceeds the default 30 second timeout.

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The log is in-line with my observation: when I disable the pausing, the startup is 21 seconds longer for me.

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Now let's take a look at your log...

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[2022.09.22-21.49.33:529][ 60]LogGameMode: Display: Match State Changed from WaitingToStart to InProgress -- begins loading state
[2022.09.22-21.49.44:212][ 60]LogNet: Join succeeded: SilentNyte -- join processed (11 seconds!)
[2022.09.22-21.49.48:535][ 61]LogNet: UNetDriver::TickDispatch: Very long time between ticks. DeltaTime: 15.01, Realtime: 15.01. IpNetDriver_2147480345 -- finished loading state
[2022.09.22-21.51.00:761][948]LogNet: Warning: UNetConnection::Tick: Connection TIMED OUT. Closing connection.. Elapsed: 45.00, Real: 45.00, Good: 45.00, (...) -- noticed the timeout

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Let's see: 21:49:33 -> 21:49:48, load time took 16 seconds start-to-finish.

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[2022.09.22-21.47.01:961][149]LogNet: AddClientConnection: Added client connection: (...) -- is when the connection actually gets made - this is much earlier; it looks like you "let it sit" for about 2 minutes before clicking 'Join'

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Okay. So, 45 seconds before 21:51:00 would've been 21:50:15. Let's see what happened there...

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Nothing obvious, apart from LogNetTraffic: Warning: Notification::ProcessReceivedAcks - Missed Acks: AckedSeq: 14969, OutAckSeq: 14680, FirstMissingSeq: 14681 Count: 33 which is probably its way of saying "yeah, I was too busy and missed a number of client packets".

blazing halo
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CSS did say they changed the save structure by quite a bit (not compatible with U5, after all), and they recently mentioned another change. I think that if they want to resolve this, they'll need to load the saved state regardless and just suspend the game director instead of loading everything out.

turbid juniper
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But that only happens when return from pause. With a fresh load from save file this does not happen.

blazing halo
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Going to the menu, selecting save management, selecting load, the session and a save, and then loading?

turbid juniper
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From the server manager forcing it to load the latest save file. Then immediately joining the game.

blazing halo
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There's no "immediately" in that procedure, haven't you noticed?

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It takes it about 10-15 seconds to actually return control after that.

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When you load a save manually, the process is: load -> reconstruct -> return control -> join game

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When you load from a pause, the process is:
=> load -> reconstruct
=> join game

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(these two happen at the same time, and need to be handled concurrently)

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Sometimes if you click too fast,

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you'll see a "Server is preparing a new game".

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You're not supposed to try joining as it loads the game, and it seems the admin UI reflects this.

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Similarly, when you try to join a server and it needs to unpause (essentially load the save it needs to continue), it should also hold you on a "Please wait as the server loads the saved game." screen -- but it doesn't.

turbid juniper
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Makes sense. So the client needs to tell the server it is ready to join. Then wait for the server to respond reconstruct complete. Then connect to the games. Easy fix 🙂

blazing halo
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Something like that, yes.

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It seems this wasn't an issue previously, and it only really happens if you pause the server on empty.

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Looks like the QA site is down. How ironic.

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@turbid juniper So, current workaround: keep the server running even with 0 players connected.

turbid juniper
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Or reload the save before joining each time.

blazing halo
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Or.

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Though only admin can, IIRC.

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In other news: liquid biofuel is perfectly acceptable, if a bit tedious. It certainly extends the unattended biofuel cycle (in my case - from 30-50 minutes to 7 hours).

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The first two phases are certainly tedious with bioburners - even with solid biofuel (which I feel is a must here). But right now? Four generators at stock speed, and I can fairly comfortably accomodate a train to the nearest oil field.

blazing halo
amber bane
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Alright bet, thanks!

blazing halo
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Hm... at 48 m³/min (600 MW), that's 72 solid biofuel/minute, or 2:36h per full industrial container.

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An industrial container of biomass, with a constructor to make solid fuel (144 units of biomass/minute at a 2:1 ratio) buys you an hour per.

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Not bad at all, actually... And I haven't really "shaved" any significant areas, to be honest...

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amber bane
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@blazing halo @loud minnow Yes, I upgraded to the 10GB plan and it worked fine. Thank you two!

How are they going to offer a plan that can’t even run the game is what I’m wondering. Smh.

loud minnow
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Because most of this hosting site just look at the wiki and go by that… but the wiki is out of date for satisfactory as of right now

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But they never try it themselves

blazing juniper
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It can reach as much as 9-11gb at launch, then it proceeds to average at < ~8gb

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that is I tested that on isolated server, that has all of its allocated ram to work with

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so my guess is, this update has either something big that affects performance in a bad way, or it is just piling up as features are added (which worries me as hell if this continues to happen)

loud minnow
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Yeah the initial start up which is when it load everything in will be the main spike in ram usage and depending on the OS on windows some of it will be cache and it will go down a bit… but yeah if you don’t have the ram for the initial start up it will crash the server but this has been happing since they release update 6 experimental

blazing halo
mortal remnant
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Hey everyone, I am unable to join my friends dedicated server, I was on it earlier today but now the game won't authenticate the server. my friends are still able to join

blazing halo
mortal remnant
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the server says that it is offline

blazing juniper
blazing halo
blazing halo
loud minnow
blazing halo
mortal remnant
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restarted client, steam, computer, I tried a different network

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I even turned off my firewall for a minute too

blazing juniper
loud minnow
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Well that’s not my main pc lol my main rig is a 5950x with 128gb 3600 ram kit lol but yeah I rather own my own equipment than pay for a service which in the end will just add up over time lol

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I built my own server with just spare parts that I had from upgrading my main rig

blazing juniper
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oh I see, I usually advise against running servers on PCs, but if those were "scrap parts" why not 😄

loud minnow
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A “server” is just a pc tho lol

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When you paying for a “server” your just paying to access another pc to run your software on it

blazing juniper
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not exactly, unless you are doing maintenance all by yourself and don't mind the hassle and time waste of doing snapshots/backup images

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I am loaning 3 servers at the moment, merged into a cluster, trust me, maintenance time/costs alone make it worth to cough up a few bucks for server solution

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if you treat servers as just another pc's you kinda miss the whole point about setting up a server

loud minnow
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Lol… yeah this is a hobby for me I don’t mind doing maintenance on it I something I enjoy doing and it has its own PSU in case power failure and runs 24/7 365 days a year without turning off so what the difference between that a sever you pay nothing is the same thing.. that is why I have two rigs one is the sever that I use for hosting games that runs 24/7 with back up etc and the other is my main rig that I use for every day stuff

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I have run 12 full cluster ark on this “server” and is way cheaper than renting out 12 server to run the maps on..

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And btw we are talking about gaming server not running a full blown website lol

blazing juniper
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the biggest difference is, you have to include maintenance costs when you are on your own, as well as energy consumed, and maybe the most lethal issue is, when it dies on you, it dies on you 🙂 if one of data banks goes out on a big server cluster, you probably won't even notice it, as they will just bring it back up

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yeah maybe for running games for hobby it is the same, as you say, kinda thought we went broader with generalization of server as whole 😄

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but I do me, you do you I am not trying to preach the right way, as there is no right way unless you figure it out by yourself what is best for you 😄

loud minnow
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Lol yeah for that get yourself a AWS something like that you require uptime etc… but we are talking about hosting satisfactory or other games lol

shadow tiger
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Hey there everyone! I just got a dedicated server through Pebblehost and upon connecting am receiving a "Join failure: Invalid authentication token. " error. Does anyone perhaps know what this is and how to fix it? Thanks!

blazing juniper
shadow tiger
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steam

blazing juniper
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did you set up multihome ip correctly, and freed up/forwarded all ports needed to function?

shadow tiger
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I havent set up anything manually. I just bought the server and started it up. I assumed they would handle all of that.

blazing juniper
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then going through logs is your only option to know what is going on under the hood

loud minnow
mellow shuttle
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So I tried my hand at ShockByte for a dedicated server today.... thus far not going so well. Keep getting "Could not connect to the server." messages.

shadow tiger
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How do I post the log without spamming hundreds of lines?

mellow shuttle
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It might connect very briefly, just enough time to try to create a game then... disconnect 😛

blazing juniper
mellow shuttle
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Wondering if anyone else uses ShockByte and experienced similar?

loud minnow
blazing juniper
shadow tiger
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I see there is a "steam Api failed to load" error. I don't know if that's relevant?

mellow shuttle
blazing juniper
blazing juniper
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also from what I see, they provide 6gb ram setups for Satisfactory servers, which is not enough as many people before have said

shadow tiger
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Not really? I'm provided with a console and a file manager. That's it.

blazing juniper
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oh cant post links from pebble host

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I do not know if it is the case with satisfactory, but you can try to get steam server auth token for Satisfactory

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pebblehost has a guide on doing that

mellow shuttle
shadow tiger
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Okay so I have this Login token. What do I do next?

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I see on the guide that I should put it in a provided field on the website but I dont have that option available.

blazing halo
blazing halo
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Like 2 hours ago or so, same issue.

amber bane
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Yessir, more RAM. 10Gb plan worked just fine

blazing juniper
blazing halo
shadow tiger
blazing halo
blazing juniper
shadow tiger
blazing juniper
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it is hard for us to troubleshoot hosting providers, as the most important stuff is hidden under the hood, how they manage the steamcmd on their machines/ports forwarded/launch parameters just to name a few 🙂

blazing halo
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Unfortunately, that's the case.

mellow shuttle
blazing halo
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And one more argument: when you have a paid hosting, using free tech support is... kinda bad form, you know? You're paying them - ask their support first, it's what they're for.

mellow shuttle
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Fair - don't mean to overstep. Have also submitted a ticket, etc.

shadow tiger
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I understand. I wasn't exactly sure if this was a problem on my side or theirs, so I thought I'd at least try asking here.

blazing halo
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You know what would be good form? Coming back and letting us know if they fixed it, and what fixed it - if they say anything about it.

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This way, when someone else comes in with such an issue associated with that particular host, we'll have at least some answer to give.

blazing juniper
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You can totally demand from your hosting provider to get it working without you even understanding what is going on, end product is what you pay for 🙂

blazing halo
shadow tiger
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You're absolutely right I suppose. I'll contact them and return with an update.

blazing halo
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Now, there is something positive to be said about coming to your tech support with some detective work already done. It does tend to help get the issue resolved quicker, by both communicating that you know what you're doing, and handing over some info that may be otherwise unavailable to them.

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But, at the end of the day - "Client pays - client demands".

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But there's one more facet about this whole thing: these companies seem to care very little if they get it right. It's almost as if they expect to fix it "when clients complain", without putting in the up-front effort to set it up correctly from the start. In this way, it kinda feels like we're doing support for them, and they're not kicking anything back. ;P

shadow tiger
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Well let's see what happens. Thanks for the help though, you guys seem very supportive, and I really appreciate it.

blazing halo
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Word of warning: don't use Nitrado. They're lying scumbags, perfectly aware that they're lying.

shadow tiger
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Yeah now that you mention it - They are selling a product, it should work out of the box with minimal to no effort on my part.

blazing halo
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At least that's what they're advertising... ;)

shadow tiger
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They're basically selling broken server lmao. Well that is if the problem is server side and not client side, which i'm still not sure of.

blazing halo
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Except Nitrado. They are advertising things they know full well they can't deliver, and only tell you after you've paid.

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And it's not even something they can fix, but can't be arsed or something. No. They're advertising support for something the community is responsible for (mods), and claim it'll be available "soon" when they have no control over the development of any of it.

shadow tiger
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Damn that sounds terrible. I've been using Pebblehost for years now for a Minecraft server and they've been nothing but great. So I'm sure they'll help resolve this

blazing halo
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They even crafted something like 3 Word pages about how Satisfactory is great with mods, and we can help you configure them with step-by-step instructions, and hey - buy our server!

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Then you make an account, select, pay, go to the panel, aaaaaaaaaand.... Mods: coming soon...

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That's lower than low. When I first saw that, I was speechless.

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Remove http://.

shadow tiger
blazing halo
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We even made a Wayback Machine save of the page, just so we have something to point at -- shorturl.at/fx148

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Hah, have the pic!

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shadow tiger
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Some people have no honor 😄

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But anyways thanks again! I'll come back with an update tomorrow!

blazing halo
signal solar
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Heya so I noticed that the dedicated server needs like 10GB RAM to start up in recent builds, is this intentional and the new baseline going forward or is this a known bug to be fixed later?

blazing halo
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A bit of column A, a bit of column B.

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EX U6 needed about 10.5 at minimum, EA U6 (after the merger) needs 8 at a minimum. Add +1.5 GB for safe-ish upper maximum.

signal solar
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Ah so U6 bumping up memory requirements is intentional?

blazing halo
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Rather, a result of the modifications and new things that have been added in U6.

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That's column A.

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Column B would be - the experimental version needed more RAM (2.5 GB more of it, in fact) while it was in development. Once they merged it, the required dropped.

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But it's still higher than EA U5, which was 6.5 minimum, 8 safe.

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To sum up: it was always going to need more, but not as much more as EX would've lead you to believe. :D

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Some debug/development tools leave stuff in-code that can dramatically alter performance; it's typical of development versions. Once a particular version gets merged to main, those odd bits are removed since they're no longer needed.

shadow tiger
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What happens if you load a server up with only 6GB?

blazing halo
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It should run out of memory and crash.

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Under Linux, you will see a Killed somewhere.

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Note that if you're starting a completely virgin server (not even a session created, unclaimed etc.), it will require less RAM (U5 "virgin" required about 2.5 GiB).

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This is not indicative of the intended performance. Once you create a session and start it, the RAM use will spike to 8 GiB - expect this.

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'night y'all

bold zenith
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so are there any tips on getting large late game saves working on servers? my save is like 6.5Mb and when anyone loads into it the tps goes all the way to 3-4 and then just times out the user. i have 48gb ram allocated and its a dual e5-2643 system

desert walrus
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Satisfactory benefits more from single threaded performance than multi, which the e5-2643 sorely lacks

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@bold zenith

loud minnow
bold zenith
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that cpu is not that old, the ram speed is running at 1800mhz. i just tried loading the same save on my desktop and still only managed 11tps.

loud minnow
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we have a guy here who let us borrow his save which was about 22MB big and it used around 22GB of ram and it ran fine on my machine and a guy name @blazing halo also ran it on his machine fine so I'm pretty sure it not the game itself

charred atlas
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so, uh, are programmable splitters working? I just did a test here and it worked first time, but I'm highly skeptical... in U5 they were completely jacked.

loud minnow
charred atlas
loud minnow
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yeah they are still very buggy imo sometimes they work but most of the time they are broken loll

charred atlas
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Well it would be nice to see an entire update spent on stabilization (and multi-player) - get EXISTING things working, instead of add new things.

We all love new stuff, but man... this is starting to wear on me. I abandoned an entire save game because the bugs are so bad. Map not working (cant even see players or yourself or trains), rubberbanding lag on local network with powerful PCs, , splitters as mentioned, etc.

sage dune
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I'm having an issue with my dedicated server after version 6. It will randomly die shortly after starting the server without error. This is the same thing I experienced when trying expirimental version before version 6 was pushed to early access as well. Version 5 was working without issue and I can still start that version without problem but my Steam client has already updated and will not connect to it.

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Anyone have any suggestions? 👆

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loud minnow
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it would start the instance fine but once you try to load into the server if you have less than 10GB it wont start up

sage dune
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This VPS only has 8GB ram... So that's probably the problem. I'm pretty sure that used to be the minimum requirement but I'm now seeing a minimum requirement of 12GB on the dedicated servers wiki page. That's pretty disappointing.

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Thanks for the info though.

loud minnow
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yeah update 5 recommend was 8GB but update 6 increase that to minimum 12GB recommended is 16GB now

sage dune
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Well that's a pretty drastic change and quite frustrating honestly.... I'll have to rethink how to host my server I guess.

Anyone have a server provider that will allow me to upload/download existing game data as needed? Or any cloud VPS provider that offers 16GB ram at a reasonable rate for a casual player?

rose valley
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Hey folks! We have been trying to track down some crashes that occur on dedicated server. One of the callstacks we can't seem to get to the bottom of is the one attached.

It would help us a ton if someone who ran into this crash shared some information - any information that goes beyond the callstack itself.

📎 message.txt
rose valley
rose valley
marsh dawn
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Not an expert on unreal stuff, but both crashes seem to happen during loading the game map, at least from the initial look of the stacktraces.
The first one, could it be that an object is incorrectly compressed or not compressed, at save and then tries to load it using the wrong impl?
Can it be compression settings being incorrect between saveing and loading, if there is such an option?
Possible that data is loaded and saved in different order? I'm assuming the server uses the same save load system as the game, so I'm gonna have to guess this isnt the problem.
I'm guessing you've thought of these things as well. But since I've not experience the crash myself I'm probably not gonna be able to help that much :/

steep dagger
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server crashes few seconds after startup, using steamCMD for install, new setup - any tips to check

vapid kelp
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How much RAM does your server have? If it's 8GB, that's not enough.

blazing halo
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Hell, it's possible I have it in my own crash logs, as the server is sometimes dead when I go to connect... 😂

blazing halo
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Also, there's this bush that reliably crashes the server when chainsawed... 🤣 Or, it did, on EX - haven't tried on the new EA stuff.

marsh dawn
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nullptr bush.

blazing halo
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It's a special bush, too - it has a slug on top. Clearly placed there by an intelligent designer... ;P The bush ain't burnin', but touching it surely burns you. 😂

potent wren
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everything i join my dedicated server (new game) it crashes...
this is the console: https://pastebin.com/0JBeyJHZ
Cant seem to figure out what the problem is.

I'm using AMP on Ubuntu 20.4
Someone knows how to fix this ?

young slate
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Does anyone know what to do here because i cant select anything? Im new so i have no idea. Should i post this in questions and help or in this channel

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potent wren
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server seems offline

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normaly you get the question to take ownership first

blazing halo
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Since it shows both "Offline" and "Server name pending", you have no communication with the server - not even a ping on the Beacon.

young slate
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How do i fix this 'no communication' thing

blazing halo
blazing halo
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So tell us more.

young slate
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Liek where the server is hosted?

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Like*

blazing halo
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Like that, yes.

young slate
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Australia

blazing halo
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Okay, let's be more specific: is it hosted by a game-hosting company, a server-hosting company, by you, by your friend? and so on. Is it in your LAN? Are you trying to connect over LAN? Over the Internet?

young slate
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Shockbyte

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Dedicated

blazing halo
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Right. Any logs from the panel?

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And for future reference, if you're paying for a company to professionally host the game server for you - you should first contact the hosting company's tech support. You're paying for their attention and time, after all. They're also in the best position to help you, since they know intimate details of their setup - which we do not.

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But as far as ShockByte, we are aware of an issue with RAM on their hosting. You need to be on the 10 GB RAM plan at least - otherwise the server will likely crash when starting or loading the game.

young slate
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Is there a good server hosting company?

blazing halo
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I wouldn't know - I self-host. People here seem to say that ShockByte is OK, after you upgrade RAM on their offering. 8 GB is not enough as of Update 6 EA.

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Just don't go to Nitrado, as they're lying scumbags who have no issues cheating you out of your money.

young slate
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I believe there was a free one on epic games? Was that a limited time only

blazing halo
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No, it's free (and also available on STEAM and through steamcmd for free as well), but you have to host it yourself. As in - set up a PC that can run it, run it there, pay for electricity etc. The hosting companies get it from the same place.

abstract garnet
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nitrado hosts game servers at least

blazing halo
abstract garnet
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idk

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what did you say?

young slate
summer siren
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i started the server in my pc, the game and server versions dont match, tried updating via steamcmd but doesnt update

blazing halo
blazing halo
abstract garnet
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@blazing halo just because you say so, i shouldn't use it? What did they do to you?

blazing halo
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Ugh, timed out.

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Gimme a sec.

abstract garnet
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so they don't have mod support? I don't know. Does the server even have mods support yet?

summer siren
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game version - 201717, server - 201145

blazing halo
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They don't have mod support, but they advertise as if they do, and you only find out after you've paid.

blazing halo
abstract garnet
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they've removed the advertisement from their website?

blazing halo
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At this time, probably?

abstract garnet
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sad

blazing halo
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They have changed some the wording though. It's no longer directly implied that their server supports mods.

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Still, there are so many hosters out there, that I'm not going to let them live that down.

abstract garnet
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😄 so it's personal already

blazing halo
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They still use the most offending piece, which is All of this and so much more can be done through mods and we will show you the most popular mods and how you can add them to your Satisfactory game! {link to server hosting offering} They don't actually say "mods aren't working with dedicated servers yet" anywhere, either.

abstract garnet
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idk, recommend some good games host, then?

blazing halo
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Hmm... you could search this channel for mention of "host".

abstract garnet
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i googled and stumbled across nitrado. I'll do that the next time too, then. Just won't pick nitrado

blazing halo
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Keep in mind that you're not allowed to outright advertise hosts here, and the nature of this channel (tech support and issue discussion) means we see the ones with issues the most.

abstract garnet
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it's not advertisement. It can be unpaid recommendation.

blazing halo
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No, sure thing. I just wanted to point out that you won't see advertisements here,

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and you're more likely to find out which are bad

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as opposed to which are good.

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:D

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I self-host, and haven't had issues I couldn't fix (or work around) yet. But then, I both have a spare PC and can afford to feed it power every month.

median galleon
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hey guys i have a problem,
When i start mij dedicated it closes automatically.
I did use steamcmd etc but cant find any solution.

blazing halo
median galleon
blazing halo
# median galleon this one?

LogServer: Error: Failed to initialize server. Could not bind any addresses to port '15777'.This is very likely caused by another server instance already running. Use a different port number with the -ServerQueryPort=<port> startup argument if you intend to run multiple instances.

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Your port UDP/15777 is already being used by a program.

median galleon
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oh okay

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what port can i use then?

vapid bramble
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you can use the "netstat" or "ss" command to check for open ports on linux

median galleon
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its a windows vps

vapid bramble
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ports are between 1 and 65535, but I would keep the port of the game between 1025 and ~30000... so just grab another random number and try again

median galleon
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okay i will try

blazing halo
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You can, for starters, check if you already have a server running.

median galleon
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there is notting running atm

blazing halo
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Without -log it closes the CMD window on Windows, but continues to run.

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So if you added -log recently...

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I don't know of many (or any, really) services that use port UDP/15777, so that's the most likely explanation.

median galleon
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yeah

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need to restart mij vps then haha

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now stuck on this

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i think its starting up atm?

blazing halo
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FIRST, you're in Select Mode.

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See how it says "Select" in the window name, and you have a white square in the window?

median galleon
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yes i see

blazing halo
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When this happens, the server will be blocked from working.

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You need to leave Select Mode (hit ENTER).

median galleon
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okay my bad haha

blazing halo
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Be aware that dragging the mouse over the window's contents will enter Select Mode.

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So be careful with it.

median galleon
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yeah i understand

blazing halo
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SECOND: when you see notifications about EOS-P2P and NAT -- you can ignore those warnings, they're all things that aren't supposed to work in this server.

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We typically use them as indicators that the server has finished starting up and is now ready to accept connections.

median galleon
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oh okay!

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so the server is started now or?

blazing halo
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It should be, yes.

median galleon
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but now i cant find the server in de server manager in game

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i did put my IP adres and port correct

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it says that the server is offline

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or do i need to have the game on my vps?

vast sigil
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i dont even know if anythings running

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activity manager doesnt say anything

blazing halo
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This is a client log.

vast sigil
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hol on lemme dig up right map

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😅

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i cant seem to find the log file cuz i never got to setup process

blazing halo
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Yeah, not sure what that means.

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The log file should exist the moment the server is started. Note that the server's log file will be in the server's install directory (as opposed to the client log file, which is in APPDATA).

vast sigil
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appearantly from the mass errors im reading im not allowed to have server and game on same machine?

blazing halo
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LogServer: Error: Failed to initialize server. Could not bind any addresses to port '15777'.This is very likely caused by another server instance already running. Use a different port number with the -ServerQueryPort=<port> startup argument if you intend to run multiple instances.

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Your port UDP/15777 is already in use.

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I see that the Windows version of the server provides a bit more explanation on this error... xDDDDDDDDD

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**AS IF THEY KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN **HAHAHAHAHA

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Good one, devs! Pull the other one... it's got bells on!

vast sigil
blazing halo
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Who said anything about you being dumb?

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Would you say I'm dumb because I don't know Salesforce?

vast sigil
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idk lol

blazing halo
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It's not my area of expertise. There ain't a person in the world that knows everything.

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Don't self-deprecate without reason, it doesn't look good on you.

vast sigil
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is there an augment to make the thing start as i boot pc?

blazing halo
#

Not really. You can set it up as a system service (using third-party tools), but you'll find it difficult if this is already beyond your comfort zone.

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And I'm assuming you're setting this up for your personal use?

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Because if you want this to be Internet-reachable, there's also some networking stuff you'll need to figure out.

vast sigil
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ok i legit need help here how do i add the server and config? 😂

blazing halo
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You see that wee "Add server" button in the manager UI in the game? 😂

vast sigil
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it asks for adress

blazing halo
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Same PC?

vast sigil
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its the adress i need to find

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ye

blazing halo
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127.0.0.1

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(literally means "this PC" on any PC you run it on)

median galleon
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mine still says it is offline, i opened all the ports

blazing halo
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I swear, if someone came up to you and said "Hey, I've never driven a car, can you show me how? I'd like to reach Toronto today." - you'd call them crazy. :D

vast sigil
blazing halo
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Meanwhile here it's bread and butter. :D

blazing halo
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Again - this is for your personal use, right?

median galleon
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on my vps all the ports are open so i dont know what the problem is

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yeah it is for personal use

blazing halo
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What VPS?

median galleon
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got a dedicated by etheron

blazing halo
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THIS IS SHIT YOU MENTION AT THE START xDDDDDDDD

median galleon
#

my bad hahahahaha

blazing halo
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"Oh and by the way, the car is in Cairo. Will that be a problem?"

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xDDDDDDD

median galleon
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hahahaha

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so if i start over again, Iam trying to host a server on a dedicated xDDDD

blazing halo
#

That makes this a bit more complex, though. For one, only your VPS host knows the IP you need to use.

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But then, if you're remoting into it,

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you already have the IP.

median galleon
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yeah i have it

blazing halo
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Then use the Force it.

median galleon
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huh?

blazing halo
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Use that IP when adding the server.

median galleon
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yeah i did

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but it says its offline

blazing halo
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Okay, can you DM me the IP?

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I assume you used the default ports? (as in, didn't configure any?)

median galleon
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yes i did

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i send you the ip

blazing halo
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Yeah, that's very unreachable.

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Hey, can you run ipconfig /all and see if any IPs returned on that VPS match the IP you DMed me?

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Just for shits and giggles.

vast sigil
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@blazing halo thank u o/

vapid bramble
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maybe there is a firewall external to the virtual machine? something you can configure in the Web-Interface of the provider?

blazing halo
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@median galleon > Red Hat VirtIO Ethernet Adapter

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Do you need to configure ports in some sort of panel?

median galleon
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no not that i know

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give me a sec i will contact my hosting

blazing halo
#

Okay. Can you verify that the server is actually running?

median galleon
blazing halo
#

And you can go ahead and ask them if you need to do anything special to open nonstandard ports on that VPS.

median galleon
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this is the server atm

vast sigil
blazing halo
vast sigil
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ye got in and everything

blazing halo
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Yay for small miracles.

blazing halo
blazing halo
median galleon
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yeah the hosting where iam is for gaming

blazing halo
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Yeah, I'm primarily in the webservices hosting market (part of my job), so that's what I'm going off of.

abstract garnet
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really? Which vps provider would ask extra for running a game server?

blazing halo
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Those that claim to offer unrestricted services, but then you need to contact them if you want outgoing SMTP? xD

abstract garnet
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😄

blazing halo
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(because you dared not to use their mailserver XD)

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The world is full of weird and dumb people. Sometimes I'm one of 'em. xD

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Sometimes I deal with 'em. You know how it is.

median galleon
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but i did add the udp and tcp in the firewall so normally it should be working right?

blazing halo
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/yoda

median galleon
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i did both 😛

blazing halo
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Then don't.

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If you need to open your oven, do you raise the toilet seat for good measure too?

median galleon
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sometimes when my gf is cooking

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then i need the toilet 😛

blazing halo
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... okay, that analogy went south in a split second, I admit.

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But I assume you got what I meant?

median galleon
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yeah i got it

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iam removing the tcp

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outgoing and ingoing right?

blazing halo
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Does it have any restrictions on outgoing?

median galleon
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outbound inbound

blazing halo
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Yeah, yeah.

median galleon
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not that i know

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i will remove the tcp first

blazing halo
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Still, outbound should be permitted by default. There's no need to limit it unless you actually need to.

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Inbound is the one that's usually limited.

median galleon
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now i only have UDP inbound

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its working!!!!!!!!!!

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thanks dude!

blazing halo
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Sure. :)

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I don't often actually deal with hosting services on Windows, so it's nice to see I managed to bumble my way through this one. :D

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Somehow... :D

median galleon
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yeah thanks dude

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you are a legend!

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big love!

blazing halo
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Enjoy your server. ;)

blazing halo
median galleon
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thanks dude 🙂

blazing halo
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And if it breaks,

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we don't know each other.

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🤣

median galleon
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hahahahaha

blazing halo
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Oh snap! xD

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I'm writing an API, and I just refactored some validation functions out of a component to another component.

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And I'm sitting there, patting myself on the back... but what's this?

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Posted data fails validation?!

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HOW COME?! WHY?!!!!!!!

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... oh, right,

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I never defined the contents in the first place.

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xDDDDDDD

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🤣

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"Uhhhh, brain - you might want to actually write those functions now that you're happy with where they are."

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-- just a bit of insight into why you sometimes find idiotic bugs like...

2022-08-13_10_21_01-Satisfactory.png
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Uhhh... good enough? I guess? 😂

2022-08-13_10_21_17-Satisfactory.png
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13:33:31|cc435743| REGISTRATION: Registration data is SANE

There is a god... he loves us all so much... ./' ./''

serene berry
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Any1 know how to drop the rendering load for dedicated servers?

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We just started and the server is already using 9GB of RAM

blazing halo
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There shouldn't be any rendering load for dedicated servers.

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That's all game logic.

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I KNOW, when I launched ARK for the first time in my life, I was dumbfounded too.

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YES, Unreal Engine really does use all that RAM for game logic.

serene berry
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Update 5 i had no issues with 6GB of RAM

blazing halo
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ARK with some mods (like, 50 xD) is upwards of 15 GiB of RAM per instance.

serene berry
#

So its just accept that it needs more?

blazing halo
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You do, yes. Be happy - it now only requires about 9.5-10 GiB. While it was in Experimental, it required 10.5 GiB at minimum.

serene berry
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Alright

blazing halo
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Other UE games have similar RAM demands - ARK, CONAN: Exiles, Dark and Light... it's the same shit.

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Remember hlds? It could run on a damn toaster as long as said toaster had 133 MHz and 32 MiB of RAM.

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But hey, it's not 1998 any more.

vapid bramble
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to be fair, 32 Gig of RAM are not that expensive today... so games scaled up

blazing halo
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True. But one thing to keep in mind: not everyone has a proper server machine that can house more than 32 GiB of RAM.

serene berry
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I rent a dedicated server so my friends can play without my pc being on

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I got 64GB in my own pc

blazing halo
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DDR3 sticks of 16+ GiB size only come in ECC flavours, really. If you happen to have only 4 RAM slots, you're usually limited to 4x 8 GiB.

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(and besides, I've yet to see a DDR3 consumer motherboard that supports 16 GiB per slot, and doesn't cost as much as a black-market kidney)

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(I'm not sure CPUs in that range support such modules tbh)

indigo marlin
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where do I report bugs?

hushed gateBOT
amber bane
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@blazing halo The grind doesn’t stop for you, kudos.

rose valley
blazing halo
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Oh. Cool! :D

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I just assumed that you just assumed that if I'm running this on Linux and I don't understand what "failed to bind" means - no extra explanations in the world will save my soul... 😂

rose valley
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Hehe, how precious would that be hehe

marsh dawn
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Gotta love ambigious error messages 😄

blazing halo
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"failed to bind" isn't really ambiguous, tho'

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It refers to a very specific operation, literally a bind() call. :D

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There're really only two reasons it can fail:

  • the port is already bound, or
  • you don't have the required permissions to bind to the port
rose valley
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And if the port is not in the reserved range, the former is more likely.

blazing halo
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Indeed.

marsh dawn
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Fair 🙂

chilly yarrow
#

Hey quick question, how frequent and how intense should I normally expect rollbacks to be? I have a dedicated server setup in a rented VPS with an SSD and 16GB of RAM on Ubuntu, and experiencing 5-10s of Rollback every few minutes after a good 30minutes of uptime (varies quite a bit). I'm mostly trying to figure out if this is normal or if it's a symptom of the virtualization. If you have any tips to diagnose this further I'd love to hear them
Thanks!

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Just started it up as well, so I have no point of comparison with update 5

blazing halo
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Check if your rubber-banding matches the server saving the game. See how long it takes for it to save.

woven geyser
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rollbacks?

desert walrus
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When mp saves, everything you did during the save gets reset for client

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On dedicated or mp

chilly yarrow
drifting musk
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Hi There ! Are dedicated server updatable to Update 6 ?

chilly yarrow
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Yes

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At least on experimental

drifting musk
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anyone knows for beta branch ?

chilly yarrow
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Aren't experimental and beta the same? Might be missing info

drifting musk
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as far as i know, experimental is alpha-like verions and beta are ready-to-use for everyone

blazing halo
drifting musk
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So not yet in beta channel on steamcmd ?

blazing halo
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Beta channel will not be updated until the next Experimental release.

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EA is now ahead of EX.

drifting musk
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So, using steamcmd, I should go to experimental branch ?

blazing halo
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You should move from experimental.

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The beta has closed for now.

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Think of EA as "stable" and EX (beta experimental) as "devel".

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Update 6 has moved out of devel and been merged to stable.

drifting musk
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I use this command on steamcmd : force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta public validate +quit

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is that not the right one now ?

blazing halo
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That's the correct command.

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Technically you only need to add -beta public if you have previously been on -beta experimental.

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Otherwise, you can ommit the command.

chilly yarrow
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Did not realize EA was ahead of EX, will be moving out of EX thanks!

drifting musk
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then, I don't get why I don't get the same version for server and client (201 717 vs 188 609 for server)

marsh dawn
blazing halo
chilly yarrow
blazing halo
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Let me check, actually. I'll update my Experimental server and see what I get.

drifting musk
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I feel like a changelog page for dedicated server would be great ^^

blazing halo
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But keep in mind - that may change.

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When Update 5 was released, remember how there was a big notification on the right (in the main menu) about how Beta was behind Early Access?

drifting musk
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I started after U5 release ^^

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Is there any way to check/follow if a dedicated server update is out ?

chilly yarrow
drifting musk
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i'm goint to try experimentale branch since beta branch seems to be behind current game client version

vast sigil
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ngl the command prompt popping up all the time is sliiiighly annoying and the system service route didnt go well cuz i use nssm and the game considered server offline

drifting musk
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... same results game is 201 717 and server 188 609. Going to wait for a new update of the server.

vast sigil
blazing halo
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Okay, lots of confusion here. STEAM calls it "beta", but there are only 2 branches, ever: "Early Access" (also known as "beta public" in STEAM), and "Experimental" (also known as "beta experimental" in STEAM).

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Whenever there is an Experimental version being worked on, the Early Access (EA) version remains what it last was until the development is done and the Experimental (EX) branch is merged back to EA.

drifting musk
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I got that. And currently, when I update dedicated server using steamcmd, version of dedicated server is lower/older than game client. Whatever branch of steam i use.

blazing halo
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Then it's an issue with STEAM's delivery pipeline. It should be at parity. I'm currently playing 201717 on my private server, and I ran an update on my Experimental no more than 3 hours ago and everything pulled in fine.

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I can confirm that I was able to install 201717 for both client and server from both EA and EX.

drifting musk
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I just delete the folder and looks like, indeed, steamcmd is not realy updating the game since the folder has not be recreated

blazing halo
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Then you're likely installing to the wrong place.

drifting musk
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I'm not. I think it's more likely to be releated to privilege issues

blazing halo
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I find that it's most commonly related to not specifying force_install_dir or putting it in the wrong place,

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and then getting the server installed to whatever directory you happened to run the command in.

drifting musk
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looks like steamcmd behavior changed because since I updated it on monday, no game is updating file into directory and logs shows access privileges issue. I'm going to try to copy/paste the downloading cache of steamcmd...

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manual update by copy/pasting files worked. Thx for the help. Now, i've another issue to fix ^^

shrewd ingot
#

does someone know if there is a fix for the bug that when placing down belts it sometimes doesn't connect to machines/spliters/mergers i've played on multiple dedicated servers and this has pretty much always been an issue anyone know a fix for it or something?

blazing halo
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Unfortunately, the only real solution to that is more powerful hardware.

desert walrus
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Even on powerfully hardware I've had that issue

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It also happens if the client has a poor internet connection, or if there's 3+ people online.

abstract garnet
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i don't know if this is a silly question. Does satisfactory server make use of multiple cores or nah?

loud minnow
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Is mainly very single threaded heavy

blazing halo
blazing halo
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The problem, like I said, is desynchronisation. The client believes the belt/pipe has been placed. The server disagrees, because it was too busy to handle the placement command (lacking hardware), or never received it (crappy internet) in the first place. What this means in particular, is that they can agree on how it looks, but the server will disagree on the effects it has.

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(or, more specifically, the "glue" code that connects cause - placement - with effect - attachment - was never triggered, and it doesn't matter how it looks)

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What I'm trying to say is: this can not be enforced. It's just not physically possible to have a 100% reliable system built only on unreliable components.

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Same with TCP/IP: while TCP has a lot of compensations that, on the average day, work wonders mitigating the unreliability of IP - eventually it must give up and say "connection failed".

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The only way to "fix" this would be for the server to acknowledge every action every player performs.

tepid spear
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I have tried creating the server ini file as described https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers/Configuration_files but all I am able to find are those files:

❯ fd -iuuu ini
.config/Epic/FactoryGame/GUID.ini
.local/share/Steam/public/steambootstrapper_ukrainian.txt
Engine/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/Manifest.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/CrashReportClient/UE4CC-Linux-2606186357D8432EA5F2BE073B9B82F7/CrashReportClient.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/CrashReportClient/UE4CC-Linux-FFEA29FABF1B4D489193B5E7B3F6EF70/CrashReportClient.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/ApexDestruction.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/Compat.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/DeviceProfiles.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/EditorScriptingUtilities.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/Engine.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/Game.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/GameUserSettings.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/Hardware.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/Input.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/MotoSynth.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/Niagara.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/Paper2D.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/PhysXVehicles.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/RuntimeOptions.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/Scalability.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/Synthesis.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/VariantManagerContent.ini
FactoryGame/Saved/Crashes/crashinfo-FactoryGame-pid-151697-55EDDB09F4B6433396C632A57BF7CAAC/CrashReportClient.ini

what am I missing here? also is there a way to create an ini file that prevents initial claiming of the server and also sets admin/user password?

blazing halo
blazing halo
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You can try setting no user/admin passwords, and a default "Untitled" server name - and then copying that file somewhere safe, to be reused later.

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If you want to have the ServerSettings.ini file, you need to configure the server first. Then the file will be created. It controls two settings - pause on 0 players, and save on player exit.

tame sentinel
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im not able to get the steamcmd downloaded :(

unknown.png
blazing halo
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(steamcmd is x86 exclusively)

tame sentinel
#

hmm still doesn't work

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tranquil palm
#

I had a similar issue after a fresh re-install of Debian Bullseye. After trying everything else I could imagine, I reinstalled again but used the full CD instead of netinst. No issue after. Could have been the mirror I used the first time, IDK.

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Please don't jump to that, just wanted to offer how I ended up fixing that.

tame sentinel
#

hmm

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its a normal iso install

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oh nevermind its a netinstall

charred atlas
woven matrix
#

lmao that was the link to steamcmd

charred atlas
woven matrix
#

bot censored the command I sent

charred atlas
#

ah

woven matrix
#

My repos don't work correctly because im running it in LXC

earnest willow
#

known issue?

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woven matrix
earnest willow
#

oh i forgor those were a thing

blazing halo
#

upgrade does an upgrade to outdated installed packages

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update refreshes the info on what packages are available

earnest willow
woven matrix
#

My best guess its a similar bug may just need to be replaced

blazing halo
latent raven
#

Just created a server and when i created a world either me or my friend get my loot from another world of mine
Any way to fix this

blazing halo
earnest willow
#

red dune desert

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blazing halo
earnest willow
#

oh dang i need to move my powerplant then. thanks

latent raven
# blazing halo What do you mean?

I have another world with tier 2 loot however when i created a server with new world it started the world in tier 2 and all my loot still on me

earnest willow
blazing halo
latent raven
#

Ye i know

blazing halo
earnest willow
#

ty

latent raven
#

I am seem to have an idea what happens with my bug, If you create world skipping the intro it give me loot from another world but if you have intro it full refresh

blazing halo
#

This is in single-player, then?

latent raven
#

That test was yes

#

but i was having issues on a dedicated server as well

#

what is annoying is that it seeming to grab data from another world that not exists

tepid spear
neat olive
#

Anyone available to help me with local server hosting? Trying to host server on the same PC that I will be playing on. Hosting so my friends can join in. When I disable windows firewall it works. When firewall is enabled server shows offline/not authenticated yadayada... So obviously it's an issue with windows firewall. I just can't seem to get it to work with firewall enabled and I don't want to leave it disabled. I've added programs to allow through firewall added ports to allow through but still no luck. So my question is what program should be allowed through windows firewall? and what ports need to be forwarded?

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I think I figured it out.. seeing how "UE4Server-Win64-Shipping" process is listening on the correct ports I added that to the windows firewall allow list and now I can at least join the server whereas before I could not. Still waiting for my friend to hop on and see if he can get in as well. Looks like I'm on the right track though.

blazing halo
slim blaze
#

can i plz join som1s server

loud minnow
slim blaze
#

wots an instance server

loud minnow
slim blaze
#

like make a server 24/7

desert walrus
loud minnow
slim blaze
#

ok

#

hey @desert walrus and @loud minnow how bout lets playtogether

#

guys

desert walrus
#

No mic though

remote dock
#

im looking for a server to help out anyone need help

slim blaze
#

i also dont want mic

remote dock
#

thats fine

loud minnow
slim blaze
#

um ok

burnt frigate
#

why i cant lunch dedicated server???

#

i try so many time and te server just dont start

blazing halo
#

Log please.

loud minnow
#

But post the log in here to see what actually wrong

spice heart
#

can someone help me

#

it just says server name pending / server is offline on satisfactory

spice heart
#

is 9gb ram usage normal

wintry stone
loud minnow
timid herald
#

So i recently got a dedicated server i am trying to run satisfactory server tool on, i used steam CMD to get the files and the server fails to launch with an error about SetEnvironmentVar is not available on this platform or something, then one about missing packages for an object scanner

However when i took blank files from my local machine it launched fine, imported the save, closed it now it's broke again

vast sigil
#

Where do i input -log -unattemded on my servers?

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On the exe?

timid herald
vast sigil
#

So at the target factoryserver -log -unattemded

vast sigil
timid herald
#

I personally use a batch file to run it

vast sigil
#

Oki need to look up how to make one lol

timid herald
#

So in the server directory create a file called start.bat or something

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Then inside that file(You can edit batch files in notepad) you can put FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended then to start the server just run the file

vast sigil
#

how exactly do i gotta set up so my satisfactory install connect to the server that is on my other puter?

vast sigil
timid herald
#

Well Update 6 needs 10gb to start up and i'm not entirely sure

vast sigil
#

oof 16gb ram moment lol

timid herald
#

lol yeah