#dedicated-servers

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blazing halo
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  • Is the server in fact running when your friend attempts to connect to it?
mental locust
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^

mental locust
blazing halo
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ChubbyEmu uploaded a new video. *excited noises*

frozen folio
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does anyone have a sever that i can join?

gleaming raptor
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My router can burn in hell... i have open all ports possible and turned of ALL firewalls.. stillc can't get it to internet to play with friend.. gaaahhhhh.. i am preperad to die

blazing halo
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And to the correct place?

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Tell us more about your setup, please.

mental locust
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@frozen folio k

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Mabe*

blazing halo
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@gleaming raptor please start by describing how you have things set up, and answering the questons if you can. We'll go from there.

gleaming raptor
gleaming raptor
blazing halo
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Okay. You can remove port triggering from your setup, it will not help.

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Is the server running on the same PC you play the game on?

gleaming raptor
blazing halo
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So, these are two separate PCs, then.

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Okay. Once you have the server started, can you then connect to it via your LAN?

gleaming raptor
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yes

blazing halo
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Okay. So this confirms that the server works, and it can and will accept connections when they come in.

gleaming raptor
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but as soon as i do the server show i logged in and shuts down

blazing halo
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Oh.

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U6?

gleaming raptor
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U6??

blazing halo
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Experimental?

gleaming raptor
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ipv6?

blazing halo
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U6 = Update 6 = Experimental (currently).

gleaming raptor
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ah.. oh i think so.. it is the latest

blazing halo
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Then you have insufficient RAM.

gleaming raptor
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fully uppdated on comp and server

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but min i 6 and recomemmend is 8

blazing halo
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For u5.

gleaming raptor
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oh

blazing halo
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U6 requires something to the tune of 11 GB.

gleaming raptor
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but i have tried to run on my comp too and it works there.. but my friend can't see/connect to server

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sick

blazing halo
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Did you forward the ports to your PC when you did that?

gleaming raptor
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i have turned of all firewalls.. on computer and it is under the same router

blazing halo
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Did you forward the ports to your PC, when your PC was running the server?

gleaming raptor
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in the router yes.. on the PC i feel a tad stupid now... how to forward on the comp

blazing halo
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On the PC, you just have to allow the server to use the ports (or disable the firewall).

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I assume the computers on your network (at least the ones wired in via cable) have static IP assignments (either via direct assignment or static DHCP leases), so that they don't change?

gleaming raptor
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I have totally MURDERED the frikkin Firewall.. so the i gues si have open it up yes

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yes

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it is on auto DHCP

blazing halo
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Does it have a static DHCP lease assigned in the router?

gleaming raptor
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lemme check

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DHCP = Bound

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Obtain DNS = Auto

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DHCP Range I think from 2-254

blazing halo
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Okay, but does it have a static DHCP lease assigned?

gleaming raptor
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IPv4 Lease time is 1hour

blazing halo
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That's nice. Is there a static DHCP lease assigned for your PC?

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It will consist of two (minimum) pieces of information: the IP to be assigned (in the A.B.C.D numeric format), and the MAC address of the machine (in the AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF hexadecimal format).

gleaming raptor
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ok hmm

blazing halo
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It's a very specific thing, as you can see.

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What it does, is it ensures that the PC will always get the same IP from the DHCP server.

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This is a prerequisite for correct port forwarding operation.

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It may also be called a "reservation", I don't know. The correct term is "static lease".

gleaming raptor
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yeha i cna see that now... I aint all that good in this section since majority of servers i never had to use this router.. stupid area i live in decided to change ISP morons

blazing halo
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You can use your own router. Call the ISP and ask them to DMZ your router in their crap, or otherwise set up a transparent tunnel or whatever they need to.

gleaming raptor
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In router for my computer it says Reserved on

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on both mac and ip adress

blazing halo
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You can share screenshots, you know. They say a picture is worth a thousand words.

gleaming raptor
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Thats the router

blazing halo
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Okay. Which machine has .0.5 assigned to it?

gleaming raptor
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this one the other i killed 1hour ago since it crashed

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Egenskaper = Properties 😛

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it is the computers network

blazing halo
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Okay. I would advise you to set your pool to start from 192.168.0.50 and end on 192.168.0.250.

gleaming raptor
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done

blazing halo
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This will both a) create a nice little pool of addresses you can assign statically or via static leases (from 192.168.0.2 to 192.168.0.49), and b) will help you instantly recognise an IP as being either hand-assigned or dynamic.

gleaming raptor
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oh kk cool

blazing halo
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(simple rule: if it's 50 or above, it's dynamic; if it's below - it's hand-assigned)

gleaming raptor
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aight

blazing halo
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Okay. Show relevant port forward settings please.

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First of all, clear "external host" entries.

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A value of * is the correct one, especially if your public IP is dynamic.

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(which it most likely is)

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The correct protocol for Satisfactory is UDP for all three ports.

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Also, if you can, disable UPnP. It's a security risk (it allows any program on your network that knows the UPnP protocol to port-forward a port for itself, potentially without any authentication requirements), and most services don't really use it anyway.

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I suppose Satisfactory can use it, so note down where the setting for it is.

gleaming raptor
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turned UPnP off now

blazing halo
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Very good.

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Can you please verify for me that your WAN IP is actually public?

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If you don't know, the procedure is to find the WAN IP of your router (WAN is the interface connected to the ISP side of things), and checking if it matches the result you get from a website like whatismyip.com

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This looks like the correct page to see your WAN IP.

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That address looks publicly routable, but please verify anyway.

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Okay, this confirms you clear all requirements to host a server on your network that can be accessed from the Internet.

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Please delete all screenshots showing your public IP. ;)

gleaming raptor
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so if he tries to connect tot he 40.14*.***.**7 it should workj now?

blazing halo
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(please obscure that IP ;P)

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But yes, if the game is running it should work now.

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I noted your IP down. May I try connecting to the ports to see if I get the expected protocol responses?

gleaming raptor
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sure

blazing halo
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Is the server running right now?

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It is.

gleaming raptor
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yes

blazing halo
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I can test the ports individually and I get the expected responses.

gleaming raptor
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sweet

blazing halo
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Your friend should try connecting to you now. Please give him the correct IP.

gleaming raptor
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I sure will

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AND TY alot ❤️ u da man..

blazing halo
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Don't thank me. We don't know if it works yet. ;)

gleaming raptor
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But i feel so happy..

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i don't wanna burn my stuffz down 😛

blazing halo
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(I have a very specific problem with my own network - I can test everything correctly, and I still can't connect or have connections)

gleaming raptor
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wierd

blazing halo
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I would like to know if it works now.

gleaming raptor
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IT WOOOORKSS!!!!!!! WOHOOOOOO ❤️ ❤️

blazing halo
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Great. :)

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So, don't thank me - pay it forward, if you can.

gleaming raptor
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He just joined... TY ALOT"!!!

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I will

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I surly will

blazing halo
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And have fun. :)

gleaming raptor
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Tha i can promise you i will

blazing halo
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Hmm... Will you mind if I try joining your game as well? It would give me another data point for my own case.

gleaming raptor
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no you are welcome

blazing halo
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You may see connection attempts from 1*.17*.20*.2*.

gleaming raptor
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yes

blazing halo
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Yup, I can see "Game ongoing" but that's it.

gleaming raptor
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I sent a pic of console

blazing halo
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Yes, seeing multiple repeats of Ignoring handshake packet received after completion is indicative of my issue.

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What essentially happens is that packets coming from my network to yours arrive just fine, but the replies never reach me.

gleaming raptor
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ah i c

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I got thet screen to now.. and the Server crashed hahah 😄

blazing halo
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How much RAM does your PC have? :D

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Remember that in order to run both the game and the server will require the RAM for both - so, about 11 GB for the server, and about 8 GB for the game.

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(so a little under 20 GB total)

gleaming raptor
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32GB

blazing halo
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Interesting. Do you have any logs from the crash to see what happened?

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(the logs - including crash dumps - should be somewhere in the server's installation directory)

gleaming raptor
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hmm

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yeah looking around now

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[CrashReportClient]
bAllowToBeContacted=false
bHideContactOption=true
bHideLogFilesOption=false
bIsAllowedToCloseWithoutSending=true
CrashConfigPurgeDays=2
bImplicitSend=True

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no specific

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some .pak

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Don't know how to open them'

blazing halo
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No, that's not what you're looking for.

gleaming raptor
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ok

blazing halo
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It's either FactoryGame.log or Diagnostics.txt.

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The latest log should be in FactoryGame/Saved/Logs.

gleaming raptor
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u want the text or the whole file 😄

blazing halo
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You can check the last lines of that log to see what happened.

gleaming raptor
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from Factorygame.log

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2022.08.08-20.34.37:890][ 21]LogOnline: Warning: OSS: EOSSDK-LogEOSAnalytics: EOS SDK Analytics disabled for route [1].

blazing halo
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Anything that begins with LogCore: === Critical error: === interests me.

blazing halo
gleaming raptor
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i restared

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[2022.08.08-20.34.25:001][ 0]LogSave: Warning: ========= Load error summary =========
[2022.08.08-20.34.25:002][ 0]LogSave: Warning: ========= Unknown Classes =========
[2022.08.08-20.34.25:003][ 0]LogSave: Warning: ========= Unknown Levels =========
[2022.08.08-20.34.25:003][ 0]LogSave: Warning: ========= Unknown Objects =========
[2022.08.08-20.34.25:004][ 0]LogSave: Warning: Persistent_Level::Persistent_Level:PersistentLevel.BP_BuildGun_C_2147464675
[2022.08.08-20.34.25:004][ 0]LogSave: Warning: Persistent_Level::Persistent_Level:PersistentLevel.BP_ResourceScanner_C_2147464679
[2022.08.08-20.34.25:005][ 0]LogSave: Warning: Persistent_Level::Persistent_Level:PersistentLevel.Equip_ResourceMiner_C_2147464677
[2022.08.08-20.34.25:005][ 0]LogSave: Warning: Persistent_Level::Persistent_Level:PersistentLevel.BP_BuildGun_C_2147462956
[2022.08.08-20.34.25:006][ 0]LogSave: Warning: Persistent_Level::Persistent_Level:PersistentLevel.BP_ResourceScanner_C_2147462960
[2022.08.08-20.34.25:006][ 0]LogSave: Warning: Persistent_Level::Persistent_Level:PersistentLevel.Equip_ResourceMiner_C_2147462958
[2022.08.08-20.34.25:006][ 0]LogSave: Warning: Persistent_Level::Persistent_Level:PersistentLevel.Equip_ShockShank_C_2147462250
[2022.08.08-20.34.25:006][ 0]LogGame: World Serialization (load): 0.182 seconds

blazing halo
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Nope, not that either.

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We want a "critical error".

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It will look something like this

[2022.08.07-05.14.36:874][456]LogCore: === Critical error: ===
Unhandled Exception: SIGSEGV: invalid attempt to read memory at address 0x0000000000000268

[2022.08.07-05.14.36:874][456]LogCore: Fatal error!

0x00007f58cf6a75fc libUE4Server-Engine-Linux-Shipping.so!UGameInstance::CreateGameModeForURL(FURL, UWorld*) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Engine/Source/Runtime/Engine/Private/GameInstance.cpp:1203]
0x00007f58cfd70c36 libUE4Server-Engine-Linux-Shipping.so!UWorld::SetGameMode(FURL const&) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Engine/Source/Runtime/Engine/Private/World.cpp:4264]
0x00007f58cfccf313 libUE4Server-Engine-Linux-Shipping.so!UEngine::LoadMap(FWorldContext&, FURL, UPendingNetGame*, FString&) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Engine/Source/Runtime/Engine/Private/UnrealEngine.cpp:13164]
0x00007f588b09786f libUE4Server-FactoryGame-Linux-Shipping.so!UFGGameEngine::LoadMap(FWorldContext&, FURL, UPendingNetGame*, FString&) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Games/FactoryGame/Source/FactoryGame/Private/FGGameEngine.cpp:32]
0x00007f58cfccc676 libUE4Server-Engine-Linux-Shipping.so!UEngine::Browse(FWorldContext&, FURL, FString&) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Engine/Source/Runtime/Engine/Private/UnrealEngine.cpp:12465]
0x00007f58cfccdaf4 libUE4Server-Engine-Linux-Shipping.so!UEngine::TickWorldTravel(FWorldContext&, float) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Engine/Source/Runtime/Engine/Private/UnrealEngine.cpp:12663]
0x00007f58cf6813b4 libUE4Server-Engine-Linux-Shipping.so!UGameEngine::Tick(float, bool) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Engine/Source/Runtime/Engine/Private/GameEngine.cpp:1791]
0x00007f588b0977f3 libUE4Server-FactoryGame-Linux-Shipping.so!UFGGameEngine::Tick(float, bool) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Games/FactoryGame/Source/FactoryGame/Private/FGGameEngine.cpp:14]
0x00000000002156a9 UE4Server-Linux-Shipping!FEngineLoop::Tick() [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Engine/Source/Runtime/Launch/Private/LaunchEngineLoop.cpp:4890]
0x000000000021632a UE4Server-Linux-Shipping!GuardedMain(char16_t const*) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Engine/Source/Runtime/Launch/Private/Launch.cpp:171]
0x00007f58cd754dc5 libUE4Server-UnixCommonStartup-Linux-Shipping.so!CommonUnixMain(int, char**, int (*)(char16_t const*), void (*)()) [D:/ws/SB-lowprio/UE4/Engine/Source/Runtime/Unix/UnixCommonStartup/Private/UnixCommonStartup.cpp:264]
0x00007f58cd5a7d0a libc.so.6!__libc_start_main(+0xe9)
0x0000000000214709 UE4Server-Linux-Shipping!_start()

[2022.08.07-05.14.36:884][456]LogExit: Executing StaticShutdownAfterError
gleaming raptor
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ok keep on looking

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None of the Factory game.log has crit in it

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now i can't find the server anymore.. exprimental 😛 got 3minm of happiness 😄

blazing halo
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Then find the crash logs.

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It should be in FactoryGame/Saved/Crashes somewhere.

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The difficulty there is figuring out which one is the most recent one. Assuming there's anything there, of course.

gleaming raptor
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got logs and config but no crashes 😦

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i looked on the time stamp

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22:33 stamped is the log on the crash but it has no crit error in it

blazing halo
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... are you in my timezone? :D

gleaming raptor
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GMT +1

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Sweden

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CET +1 maybe

blazing halo
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Ah, yes. You seem to be, right now. Poland here. :)

gleaming raptor
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🙂

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[2022.08.08-20.31.49:982][279]LogGame: Buildable registered player change. BUILDABLE buildable = Build_HubTerminal_C_2147461518 -> Player player = Char_Player_C_2147462969 : IsAwake isAwake = ture
[2022.08.08-20.31.51:882][336]LogGame: Buildable registered player change. BUILDABLE buildable = Build_HubTerminal_C_2147461518 -> Player player = Char_Player_C_2147462969 : IsAwake isAwake = flase

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wonder if that can have somthing with it since it si ture not true and flas nor false

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coz i sav that before crash but never any crit error

blazing halo
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No, those are apparently on purpose. :D

gleaming raptor
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aha

blazing halo
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Ah, well. Fire that bitch back up and try again. :D

gleaming raptor
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it is up

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but game can't find it

blazing halo
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Okay... Are you sure the previous instance crashed fully?

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It may be hanging on in the background somewhere.

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Check running executables.

gleaming raptor
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not really.. it closed the .exe screen but had the .bat still runnning

blazing halo
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Then close the .bat as well. Just, make sure.

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The game does some auto-increment port shenanigans which are absolute fucking bullshit and make debugging harder.

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Someone at CSS doesn't understand the concept of "fail early, fail often".

gleaming raptor
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hehe ok

blazing halo
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Essentially, fail fast (a.k.a. fail early) is to code your software such that, when there is a problem, the software fails as soon as and as visibly as possible, rather than trying to proceed in a possibly unstable state.

gleaming raptor
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hehe but why......

blazing halo
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Auto-incrementing the port and carrying on is a possibly unstable state in this context.

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By auto-incrementing the port, it deprives me of the knowledge that the port was already taken, and it no longer matches the port forward (since it's now on 7778 not 7777) anyway.

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So, bullshit.

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Make sure there are no other copies of the server running.

gleaming raptor
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now i can't even fire it up ... it loads halfways then it completly crashes

blazing halo
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That might be an indication that there's a server running already. ;]

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Just check the running executables.

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(you know, Task Manager? check the Details tab)

gleaming raptor
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i just CLEANED all Satis and steam 😄

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now i get a long loading :S

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and it should be up now

blazing halo
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Well, I don't see it from my end.

gleaming raptor
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nor do i

blazing halo
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So unless your IP changed between then and now...

gleaming raptor
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Server appears to be offline

blazing halo
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Did you check the running processes?

gleaming raptor
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nope stil the same

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got 192.168.0.55 now thou but it don't matter?

blazing halo
gleaming raptor
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thats how the screens look like now

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when it can't find the server

blazing halo
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Dude, if your IP changed, the port forwards won't work. Double-check the MAC address to make sure there are no errors.

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... unless your router can't handle out-of-pool static allocations. :/

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That's also possible.

gleaming raptor
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hmm ok

blazing halo
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If the MAC checks out, you may need to revert that pool start change back to 192.168.0.2 :/

gleaming raptor
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Don't remeber my MAC

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but this is now on D4:5D....

blazing halo
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You can see your MAC in ipconfig /all in CMD.

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(or in the connection properties)

gleaming raptor
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but port forwarding is still on 5 and not 55 gonna change

blazing halo
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Instead of changing the port forwards

gleaming raptor
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and UPnP was on again

blazing halo
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ensure that the IP remains the same for your PC.

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...

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Ugh.

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Seriously. Get a different router and ask your ISP to just fuck off and pass control to you.

gleaming raptor
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seems like a plan

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now it is up again..

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if i change anything in router i apperantly must restart the whole server program

mental locust
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@blazing halo you ok?

blazing halo
# mental locust <@301559228693217282> you ok?

Dying inside day by day, a little bit, with each insanely stupid idea or theory I hear... The fact that flat-earthers exist wears me down a tiny bit every day. Proponents of vaccination-to-autism/tracking links make me doubt my own reality. Various religious organisations sometimes make me doubt my own existence... Otherwise, peachy. You? I'm great, thanks! You?

vagrant raft
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if i have a ryzen 5 5600G and 16GB of ram and there is bunch of server lag and internet is fine which is the issue?

crimson haven
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i had my daily crash today on my dedicated server. this time again it happened after being afk for a while, comming back and delete a standard object (regular wall). happens on dedicated server, linux, non-experimental, not-modded.

im writing this not because of the crash or its reason.

im wondering about the message during the crash report: [2022.08.09-12.58.48:119][ 0]CrashReportCoreLog: OnProcessRequestComplete(), State=InitialSendData bSucceeded=1 [2022.08.09-12.58.48:119][ 0]CrashReportCoreLog: Warning: Bad initial response from server, invalid response url
is it "bSuceeded=1" or is it "bad inital response" 😄

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rotund folio
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Hello,
Since today I can no longer connect to my Satisfactory Dedicated Server....
Strings like this keep appearing in the server window:
[2022.08.09-14.42.41:903][583]LogNet: NotifyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::ffff:127.0.0.1]:61671

about 50-60 lines and then Satisfactory ends the connection attempt with an error message. Made a screen, I'll post it if needed.

In addition, there are also messages that I am supposedly trying to access the server with the same computer, which is also running on the same computer. and I should start with the parameter -NOSTEAM... But that also fails.

But this is not the case. I have a home server in the house on which the dedicated runs.

My son can connect to the server from outside, but I can't via LAN, I always get out with error messages.

It worked this morning 😦

Do you have an idea?
Thanks in advance

loud minnow
mental locust
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@blazing halo good and I know what you mean

stoic relic
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Hey everyone, hope you are having a good day.
My apologies if this has been asked/answered recently... I looked at the wiki and didn't see any mention of it.

I run a lot of community servers on dedicated hardware. I use Windows Guest accounts to run the games to minimize the ability for a compromised exe to have access to the OS and other network device (using implied credentials). By default, Guest accounts in Windows will delete the user profile on logoff/restart.

I run about 30 other games on this hardware (more than one pizza box)... Is there a way to configure the save game folder for Satisfactory Dedicated Server yet? Every other game I have run will allow me to override using the Appdata path to store game related files/saves.

This security model is also used for various game control panels that run on Windows.
Thanks everyone, I can get around this by creating a dedicated user for the Satisfactory server that is not a Guest account, but I would rather keep this security model in place, if possible.

obsidian rune
# crimson haven i had my daily crash today on my dedicated server. this time again it happened a...

Okay, I can answer that. Just get ready for things which, from a general user's point of view, will seem odd.

First of all: the first line is a status report; the second line is a warning. A "warning" is issued whenever a situation is bad, but isn't so bad that the code must abort what it's doing. The second reason for having it separate is so that you can configure reporting verbosity (at a level of, say, "info" - the second line would possibly be hidden). And third - this may be the weird bit - just because something failed doesn't mean it didn't succeed. :D

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For example: if you're in the process of "unlocking your door", you reach into your pocket... and find that your keys are missing. So the operation of "reachIntoPocketForKeys" succeeded, though there was a "Warning: keys not in pocket" issued at the same time. ;)

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Does that make sense to you? :D

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In other words: while the operation (and, by top-down transitivity, the entire process) failed in what it set out to do, it still completed successfully (managed to finish according to the algorithm).

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It's also worth mentioning that top-down transitivity doesn't always hold, in that there may be multiple ways to accomplish the same thing, or multiple conclusions that all satisfy the requirements. There may be "fallbacks" in play as well. Just because the procedure failed thing X, doesn't mean it failed to do the next best thing Y... It's a complex topic that has close ties to what we, in terms of human solution-finding, call "satisficing" (a portmanteau of "satisfy" and "suffice", often well-expressed by the words "good enough").

obsidian rune
obsidian rune
obsidian rune
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You will need to use other means to achieve this - junctions/links, most likely.

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Linux allows you to map a folder (via bind) to another folder, but I am yet to see similar functionality in Windows. Windows does however allow one to map a partition to an empty NTFS directory, much like Linux's own mount, so you can try to work it out that way. I am unsure how early Windows requires the account's folder to exist, though...

vagrant raft
vagrant raft
blazing halo
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What about latency? What's your jitter like?

crimson haven
blazing halo
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While failing to receive will fail the entire process, it's not something the sender can fix.

crimson haven
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sure, its totally okay for me that it is a warning. just wondering if the crash report never was received..

quiet cairn
vagrant raft
quiet cairn
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With 5 mbps per player ideally. That puts you at 14 players max. This is with no other upload activity on the network

vagrant raft
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on average maybe like 3 or 4 at a time

quiet cairn
vagrant raft
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what am i looking for

quiet cairn
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CPU, RAM, Drive

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Is it maxed out? Near 100%?

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That's my only other guess.

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If not reinstall the game

vagrant raft
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cpu is around 2% memory 62% ethernet doesnt show a percent

quiet cairn
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What about drive?

vagrant raft
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0

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wait its saying that ehternet is send is 200 kbps and receive is 50kbps but on internet speed test its much more

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nvm

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it shot up once i did the speed test

quiet cairn
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Your gonna have to revisit this when you are actually lagging. It might not show up in task manager until then

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If one of those things are near 100% it's probably why

vagrant raft
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i'll tell as many of my peeps to hop on the server to stress test it

quiet cairn
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If there's nothing wrong with the specs or the Internet, you are in a rabbit hole.

vagrant raft
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my life story my friend

quiet cairn
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Nothing bothers me more then a software problem.

vagrant raft
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4 players on and everything is still pretty much the same other than the cpu but its at 15%

loud minnow
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I run 7 players no problem so is not the game in reality there could be a lot of thing that could cause lag issues but works for me fine

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This game is very single threaded so even tho the cpu is at a low usage one thread could still be hitting 100 percent for a split second causing lag

quiet cairn
blazing halo
blazing halo
vagrant raft
quiet cairn
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Would rule out if it's the game or not

vagrant raft
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ah makes sense

blazing halo
vagrant raft
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Not yet. It's finals week in uni and I have to be fully packed by tomorrow to move out of my dorm so I'll have to get back with you guys on Saturday or so.

zinc estuary
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does anyone know any reliable third party hosting for a server? dont have the means to run my own

loud minnow
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well it goes with everything you get what you pay for type of deal... also depends on your location..

blazing halo
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Can't tell you who to choose, but I can tell you who to avoid. That' be Nitrado, who seem not to have a problem scamming you to get their monies. :)

pure sparrow
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Is there any great cosmetic builders. I would like to put together a large server for those who appreciate design and functionality. I can host 80 people, dm me if interested.

mellow thicket
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I'm also using Amp for the hosting environment, so you would be able to login and stop/start/backup/whatever you need

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DM me though, because I'll probably miss your response here.

loud minnow
mellow thicket
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I hear ya.. I mainly just want to play with other people. None of my gaming friends want to play

blazing halo
mellow thicket
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Dual xeon

blazing halo
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Which ones?

mellow thicket
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aaannd it looks cool:

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blazing halo
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So in terms of general gameplay, there won't be any real improvement for them - but in terms of saving, they're going to perform about the same as my i7-4770 (or slightly worse), judging by the single-core scores.

mellow thicket
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Not really..

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Do you run an admin interface?

blazing halo
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Have you done any save-time benchmarks on them?

mellow thicket
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Nope

blazing halo
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Then do. That will give us info.

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The save operation is the single most intensive operation the game does.

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That alone will determine how playable Satisfactory is on your server.

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Multiplayer capability means nothing if everyone gets disconnected every 5 minutes due to the server taking longer than 30 seconds to save the game.

mellow thicket
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It was a Google search appliance. Its sole purpose was to cache web content

blazing halo
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I agree, it looks cool and sounds cool. :)

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And, as the developers optimize the shit out of the save process - it'll be perfect for hosting Satisfactory. :D

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But until that time, the game is much too crappy in terms of saving its state. xD

mellow thicket
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not sure how to run that benchmark though

blazing halo
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I can hand you a save that takes over 10 seconds to save. Run it and see how much time it takes for you. That'll be a real-life benchmark.

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This will be an EA save (Update 5). We can then try an EX save (Update 6).

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Do you want to do this?

mellow thicket
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Na.. thanks though.. Its just me currently on the server. I had 15 at one time, but didn't notice any issues with saves

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Pretty built out world too

blazing halo
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You know, I'm quite curious as well, so to have meaningful data, we need to compare the same save on both machines.

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Do you have a save that you would share?

loud minnow
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Probably still 10 sec I would guess lol

blazing halo
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Probably a bit faster. I personally run a 3900X / 32 GB and 960s, so I could test this at some point.

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My server saves on dual HDDs that spin at 5400 RPM, but when you check the save statistics, you'll see that it says that physical saving to disk only took something like 0.5s - which is in-line with the fact that, after all is said and done, the save file itself is tiny, with really complex setups reaching up to a "massive" 20 MiB in size.

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(compare: fresh game is about 0.5 MiB, and haphazard mid-game is avg 3-5 MiB)

loud minnow
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On average on big saves I’ve seen around 4.4 secs

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New saves is around less than a sec lol

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But idk how big that save you got is this guys that play on my sever got to end game is was about 200 hours or so for update 6 pretty big save and it was around 4.4 sec

loud minnow
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main rig

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blazing halo
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So, an empty U6 save for me takes about 0.4s, out of which serialisation is 0.2s and compression 0.15s. The rest is everything else.

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By "empty" I mean: 3 coal generators, water extractor, miner, some belts, some power lines, a few containers, some foundations.

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Let me spin up my u5 instance, see what's what.

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Okay. My Update 5 save is currently taking on average 13.0 seconds to get saved on the 87-4770.

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Loading it on the 3900X.

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On the 3900X, my save time is something along the lines of 9.75s.

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@loud minnow so if you want to test it out, may I DM you the download link?

loud minnow
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Yeah go for it @blazing halo

loud minnow
blazing halo
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Sent.

vagrant raft
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Its a good thing im moving and going somewhere else so i'll hopefully have better internet

mellow thicket
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I've got 5GB avail here, but I'd have to do some major network upgrades

loud minnow
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and that was on the regular SSD not the m.2 drive but i dont think would make any difference there

blazing halo
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Where's the total?

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It should report a total final time.

blazing halo
loud minnow
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let me see i though that was the last line but give me a sec get another one

blazing halo
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It surely wasn't.

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You're missing compression, too, which likely took 2.5-3s on its own.

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That's still in-thread, meaning it's also counted towards the "lag".

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Also, you're testing something I didn't - you're running a u5 save in u6.

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We'll see how it compares vis-a-vis the new save mechanic (which was changed in u6), but having it saved in u5 would give us a baseline.

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The numbers we're interested look like this:

[2022.08.09-01.55.01:071][899]LogGame: World Serialization (save): 0.186 seconds
[2022.08.09-01.55.01:303][899]LogGame: Compression: 0.152 seconds
[2022.08.09-01.55.01:303][899]LogGame: Write To Disk: 0.078 seconds
[2022.08.09-01.55.01:309][899]LogGame: Total Save Time took 0.423 seconds
loud minnow
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ok got it now lol 8.088 seconds

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blazing halo
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Okay, so that save takes 8.1s under u6.

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Can you load it in u5 and check?

loud minnow
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yeah

blazing halo
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Thanks.

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Since we have similar CPUs, and I don't honestly believe RAM speed makes a huge difference (though here it might make more than usual), I expect similar results.

loud minnow
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9.86Gb of ram usage

blazing halo
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That's about in-line with u6.

loud minnow
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i have the memory tune to reduce latency a little lol

blazing halo
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You should see the save from The Tunnel Rat guy. It reached something like 27 GB of RAM before settling down on 19... xD

loud minnow
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but is still stock speed 3466 just some subtimmings

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i would like to try it just to see

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lol

blazing halo
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Not my save to pass along, but we can ask. It's very impressive, by the way.

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The guy can build.

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He can also stretch the game's limits. You need to make an .ini edit to increase the memory allocation - otherwise it's going to outright crash on load.

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You'll probably want to disable autosave altogether as well, since the autosave takes about 5 minutes... xD

loud minnow
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wonder what a 5950x with tune 3600 cl16 ram kit would do lol hahaha

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i might just load it up in my main rig just to see lol

blazing halo
loud minnow
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niceee i see lol

blazing halo
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This guy makes factories you can make wallpapers out of, man. You'll see.

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Note that it's u5 (as evidenced by the cup being held).

blazing halo
loud minnow
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yeah this is it took 9.163 seconds in update 5

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blazing halo
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So about 9.16. That's in-line with the increase I'd expect with your RAM tuning, from my 9.75s (about 6% or so).

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So, it went from 9.16 on U5 to 8.08 under U6. About 13% decrease on save times.

loud minnow
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this is the second test in updatte 6 9.154 seconds

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blazing halo
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Okay, seems to be in-line.

loud minnow
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so is consistant

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on the 5950X with 3600 cl16 128Gb ram kit on a 980 Pro gen 4 m.2 8.970 Seconds

time.PNG
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update 5

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your save

blazing halo
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Okay. Still kinda in-line, mine sometimes drops to 12.5s

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Also, I misinformed you about Tunnel Rat's save being u5. It's u6.

charred hound
#

Hello, which hosting do you recommend where the game can run 0-24 hours and you can connect to it normally and there is no Buffer Overflow error?

ashen apex
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I used LogicServers about 6 months ago, they worked fine for me

mental locust
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@loud minnow memory tune?

loud minnow
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yeah tuning you timing and sub-timings to reduce memory latency you get higher performance out of Ryzen than just having a OC on the CPU as this CPU already clock as they can go normally for high single thread performance which is what you want in a server hosting anyways

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so reducing you memory latency/increasing the infinity fabric speed helps in the overall performance in Ryzen systems

loud minnow
mental locust
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@loud minnow do you experience issues on servers with big save file?

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My users have a 9.40Mb save file

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And hypertube is like instant death now

rocky hound
#

do I need to worry about this?

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loud minnow
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But no issues so far with big save

loud minnow
mental locust
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Awww ok

lucid hemlock
#

are there any "tweaks" to bump the dedicated server perfomance especially the desyncs/vehicle glitches? (except FG.NetworkQuality) ?

loud minnow
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Not as far as I know

mental locust
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@blazing halo you ok?

blazing halo
primal flicker
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Don't suppose anyone has had any luck accessing a dedicated server running under TrueNAS scale? Apparently the server is installed and can be launched, but we can't find out how to get in.

mental locust
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@blazing halo no sorry lol

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just get distracted

blazing halo
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I mean, I'm fine. It's not like it changes day-to-day, you know? I'm not happy, but I'm not exactly unhappy either.

blazing halo
primal flicker
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Hmm. Wonder if he's done that at all. I'll have to check.

paper yew
#

there's also a TrueNAS discord that might provide some realtime help

reef gull
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It is under the TrueCharts catalog for TrueNAS Scale. I have started one up, but I haven't really tested it. It's on... I can connect to it. That's the most I can say...

rocky hound
#

how much ram would a dedicated server take at an average last tier production? it's using 4gb of ram in a brand new empty world

blazing halo
rocky hound
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I was thinking to run it as a service but not sure how reasonable this is. I have 32gb of ram atm

blazing halo
#

Also, it depends on the amount of actual construction in the world. You can get away with minimalist tier-4 setups if you don't mind start-stop production and manual resource management.

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So far, I've seen a world that pushes the game exactly once, and it was a heavy push (total consumption ending at somewhere around 20 GB of RAM). But that world is covered in factories, and most of the management and transport is actually below the surface. So I think you're good. ;P

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In fact, that particular save becomes a timeout problem long before being a RAM problem.

rocky hound
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what's a timeout

blazing halo
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The default disconnect timeout is 30 seconds; the game kinda drops everything it's doing as it saves the game, so if it takes longer than 30 seconds - you'll get disconnected for lack of replies.

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That particular save takes about three minutes to save. Probably longer. Actually, 1:30. Huh. Still 3x the default timeout... xD

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So yeah - you'll meet timeouts long before you hit RAM limitations.

paper yew
#

Played for a few hours on a local LAN dedicated server yesterday. Worked pretty smoothly, certainly as good as a traditional player-hosted MP game, with one exception - there didn't seem to be any healing items spawned /anywhere/. No bacon, no nuts, no berries encountered by our 3-person team over a 6 hour play session spreading out in different directions.

Is this a known bug? I saw patch notes mention "foliage that can't be picked up" but this didn't sound the same...there simply were /no/ healing items.

(EDIT: was playing on update 6 experimental)

blazing halo
paper yew
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Thanks - that was my next step, will test later today

paper yew
#

Either it's a bug, or there's literally no healing items anywhere in the northern forest biome starting area, which seems unlikely

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it's not a matter of regrowing either, I don't think...the base plants simply aren't there

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restarting the server didn't fix it, I'll file a bug I suppose

paper yew
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I do see a lot of warnings about "skipping dirty area creation because of empty bounds" with FoliageInstancedStaticMeshComponent objects

#

could be related I suppose

#

Looks like a biome / map / other sort of game bug near Northern Forest starting point (and not specific to dedicated servers)

blazing halo
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There are healing items... just terribly few.

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If you keep to that area with water, there's a number of berries and shrooms (no nuts, but that's the wrong biome for them)... but as you move away from that area, they become nonexistent.

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The shrooms tend to show up around water (and in caves; generalyl in damp areas, as shrooms do), so that probably shouldn't be considered a bug.

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But the berries... yeah, they're a bit scarce.

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@paper yew Would you go to the coordinates I listed out in the QA report to confirm whether these (as shown in the screens above) are not there?

paper yew
tranquil palm
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On my own server, there were many berries that were invisible. Need the scanner to find them. They could still be picked.

full pecan
#

stupid question, how bad will a dedicated server run on a 2nd gen i3 if there are only going to be 2 players on it?

desert walrus
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Pretty slow

full pecan
#

in minecraft tps terms, just as a point of reference?

desert walrus
#

Well, it's not minecraft and it doesn't react the same to server lag, but it'd probably mostly affect movement and placing items

full pecan
#

ok, so i have a macro on my mouse that has the exact timing for hovering with the jetpack. Will that still work?

desert walrus
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I'd think so. The biggest thing would be that you would get rubber-banding and lag-back due to collisions

full pecan
#

ok, thank you
I'll give it a shot

desert walrus
#

And also you might have issues with placement

full pecan
#

as long as it isn't unplayable, it should be fine

blazing halo
full pecan
#

ah, ok

stoic notch
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One of the biggest bottlenecks is just network speed

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And how far away people are from the server

#

If you run a server on a really good machine, someone 7 time zones away from you will still get a lot of lag

full pecan
stoic notch
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It gets worse with a worse connection

full pecan
#

my friends and I are in the same town, they stream stuff I put on the server all the time

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It's up 24/7, hooked in to ethernet

runic hornet
#

is this the play together channel or the dedicated server help channel

full pecan
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server help, I was trying to get a sense of how bad the dedicated server would be on a 2nd gen i3

runic hornet
#

oh ok

full pecan
#

I have my answer now, thanks

blazing halo
#

The only real answer is TIAS - Try It And See - but beyond saving trouble, I wouldn't expect many problems.

full pecan
#

yeah, the issue now is that the Arch aur package has been stuck on "Compressing Package" for the past 3 hours

blazing halo
#

Huh. Don't even know what that is. Looked it up.

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Hint: the game runs fine naked, and is easily gettable from steamcmd.

quiet cairn
#

Not sure about i3 2nd gen

#

My guess that anything lower then first generation will be problematic

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With exception to some rare pentiums out there

full pecan
blazing halo
#

Ugh, Arch. xD

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To each their own, I suppose... I quite enjoy not having to hunt down and build libraries, but I can see the appeal of running only exactly what you need to and nothing else.

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I suppose it makes sense for that i3.

quiet cairn
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Arch is nice for those situations where you have to run one or a couple of libraries and that's it. A fine tuned machine. The issue is a majority of tutorials online for games for a long time were Debian

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The Arch wiki is fantastic though

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I'll give them that

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The steam deck runs Arch though. So we might see a turnaround for Arch in gaming

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The Linux gaming community is all over the place

blazing halo
#

Honestly, I don't see a reason to deviate from Debian for these tutorials.

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The primary reason being: you can focus entirely on getting the game running, without having to worry about the OS side of things.

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Arch, Alpine, Void - they're all great if you need your machine to be "lean & mean", but they're extremely-high maintenance and not really suited for beginners.

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Perfect for routers and embed dev, terrible for casual use.

fallen beacon
#

Hi ! I'm having some troubles saving an online Nitroserv. I'm using Filezilla to download the .sav file from the server but there is litterally not this file. Can someone help me ?

blazing halo
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At any rate, your save files are located in %APPDATA%\..\Local\FactoryGame\Saved under Windows, or ~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved under Linux.

fallen beacon
blazing halo
#

Ah, I see.

#

You're going to have to contact Nitroserv then.

#

We have no idea how they set their servers up. You're paying them, that includes tech support.

bold jetty
#

Yo quick question is it possible to run satisfactory on a fps

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Vps

blazing halo
#

Depends on the VPS?

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It's kinda like asking if you will be able to carry furniture in a car. What car? :D

bold jetty
#

Well like is it possible because a friend and I have a vps that you can install all software on and shit

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Like fully configurable

blazing halo
#

Seeing as it's a virtual machine, I don't see why not. But your hosting company may have a lot to say about "why not".

#

On general principle, sure.

bold jetty
#

Alr

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Is there special software that we need ?

blazing halo
#

Everything is explained step-by-step on the Wiki page linked in this channel's topic.

bold jetty
#

Alr thx

blazing halo
#

If there's something unclear or giving you trouble, ask here.

bold jetty
#

Alr thx bro

blazing halo
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No problem.

mortal dawn
#

where do i find the auth password for the server i cant seem to find it in my "/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer" folder

blazing halo
#

Do you need to recover it?

mortal dawn
#

no setting up a new server

blazing halo
#

Then you can just go ahead and delete ServerSettings.{port number} where {port number} is the port you set the server up for.

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It will delete the settings - server name, the current save session identification, admin/user passwords... and probably a bunch of other shit I don't even know about.

mortal dawn
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i dont even have a file with that name
ApexDestruction.ini
EditorScriptingUtilities.ini
GameUserSettings.ini
MotoSynth.ini
PhysXVehicles.ini
Synthesis.ini
Compat.ini
Engine.ini
Hardware.ini
Niagara.ini
RuntimeOptions.ini
VariantManagerContent.ini
DeviceProfiles.ini
Game.ini
Input.ini
Paper2D.ini
Scalability.ini

is the only files in the config folder

blazing halo
#

It's not in the folder with the .ini files.

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It's next to the saves.

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(which themselves are in the user's home/appdata folder)

mortal dawn
#

thanks found it under "~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames"

blazing halo
#

Yup. Sounds about right.

loud minnow
paper yew
blazing halo
#

But it's not a bug.

paper yew
#

Zooming out, you can see there's an entire section of the map that's just...empty.

blazing halo
#

It's at best an oversight, or perhaps intentional.

paper yew
blazing halo
#

Well, the spire coast is currently being worked on in Update 6,

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so of course there's nothing there yet.

paper yew
#

shrug thanks for the feedback. feels like a bug from a user experience perspective. worth reporting, devs can discard if intentional.

blazing halo
#

Sure, why not. Just keep in mind - the entire game is EA, and u6 is outright experimental.

#

It's very much a WiP.

paper yew
#

That area is also a good chunk of the northern forest biome, not just spire coast

#

Sure. That's...why we report bugs. Because it's experimental and feedback is good!

blazing halo
#

That it is.

#

You can see if the same thing happens in u5,

#

because they may've cleared some of it out on purpose to do a little redistributin'.

outer apex
#

How well or bad does Update 6 works on dedicated servers? Anything that I should avoid right now?

#

I want to play with friends but I'm not sure how stable it runs or how often it bugs out

woeful ruin
#

For some reason I can connect with my public IP for my dedicated server but my friends can't. I port forwarded my router, but the server just appears offline to them when they try my server's IP any ideas?

#

I"M thinking it's a firewall issue but as far as I can tell It's fine in windows defender

sharp otter
#

Would running a dedicated server on the same PC I game on increase performance? Got a 5950x with 32GB 3600mhz cl17 ram. I don't think my 2060 super matters, but yeah that's what I have rn, will upgrade soon.
I was able to get like double the fps when playing on another persons dedicated server so that's why I'm asking, I know it doesn't make sense, but maybe the game and server could use different cores on my cpu and ram I should have plenty.

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Win10 if that matters

modest flicker
#

how do I kick a player from the ded. server console? can I do that somehow?

#

Hi guys 😉

blazing halo
blazing halo
hardy lodge
#

Hello I'm getting an error stating that steam api could not be initialized. I am running the server on a remote system on a different network, I have opened ports 7777, and 15000 - 15800

#

They aren't errors sorry, they are warnings. However I can get the server to launch. I installed the server using steamcmd

blazing halo
#

The game uses exactly three.

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The Steam API warning is of no consequence.

#

If you see warnings about EOS purchase flow being unavailable, or about other EOS services being unconfigured - that's indicative of the server having finished its startup and being ready for client connections (those things are the last startup items).

hardy lodge
#

Not sure why all of them were opened but they opened from something previous, not to do with the game. I do reach that point in the startup however none of us could connect

#

I ran the powershell script attached to the wiki to test the ports and it seemed to have worked fine. The game server on our windows server is set up exactly how it was on my desktop however a clean install through steamcmd

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The only thing I could think of is a communication issue because in-game we cant resolve the server name. I know inbound and outbound traffic works for the server in general as a FiveM server was ran on it, so not sure if there is other ports I should be trying for the satisfactory server or if I should be adding any of the command lines to the start bat.

blazing halo
hardy lodge
#

Yup got all those

blazing halo
#

Okay... Tell me more about your network.

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If you have a diagram, that might also be helpful.

lyric grail
#

Hello, I opened ports on my router but my friend can't find the server

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lyric grail
#

Update : something like a firewall is blocking, he can't even ping my public ip address

undone cloak
#

Hi guys, I just set up a dedicated server on hosthavoc, and I'm having some trouble making my mods work. Anyone have time to help me a bit?

quiet cairn
quiet cairn
lyric grail
#

I just found the problem...

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I recently switched to optical fiber, and now I got IPV6 which is the problem

#

I think I have to call my network operator to get a full stack ipv4

quiet cairn
#

Google "what is my IP address?". If it returns an IPv4. It's not an IPv6 problem

lyric grail
#

it returns an ipv4 and and ipv6. The IPV4 is not pingable and the ipv6 is

quiet cairn
lyric grail
#

I already opened ports on my old router and never had problems x)

quiet cairn
#

Is the new router managed by the ISP?

lyric grail
#

what do you mean by that ? It's their, with their OS so yes ?

quiet cairn
lyric grail
#

I saw on their website that peoples have the same problem as me, and one called the support to "disable" ipv6 I think (I don't really understand the post)

# 
Following my chat conversation yesterday, a technical advisor called me this afternoon.  I just said that port forwarding didn't work, he immediately told me: "I'm going to do an IP rollback and after that it will work, it will be done within 3 hours".  The telephone conversation did not exceed 45 sec.

 My box restarted 10 mins ago, I have a new IP and I am in IPV4 now, I tested the redirection of a few ports and it works!

 Pleasantly surprised by the speed of resolution of this concern.  I invite you to do the same procedure as me (request by chat, just say that port forwarding does not work and that you want to switch to IPv4).  Hope this topic helps can help in the future.
quiet cairn
#

Weird ISP shit

lyric grail
#

yep

#

the worst of my country

#

lmao

quiet cairn
crimson socket
#

Hi...

Trying to run the satisfactory server on a ubuntu.. when trying to start, i get this on the end:
Engine crash handling finished; re-raising signal 11 for the default handler. Good bye.
Segmentation fault

Anyone have an hint/ide/pointer to me to fix?

#

If i try starting with port, i get this before it all ends:

[2022.08.15-15.19.44:706][ 1]LogOnline: Warning: OSS: EOSSDK-LogEOSP2P: NAT Detection failed, unable to resolve host
[2022.08.15-15.19.45:274][ 18]LogOnline: Warning: OSS: EOSSDK-LogEOSAnalytics: EOS SDK Analytics disabled for route [1].
[2022.08.15-15.19.45:708][ 31]LogOnline: Warning: OSS: EOSSDK-LogEOSEcom: Purchase flow is disabled due to overlay setup failure (EOS_NotConfigured).
^Z
[1]+ Stopped ./FactoryServer.sh ServerQueryPort=15800

crimson socket
#

ok, not much help here i guess.

peak vessel
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is there a way to change to timestamp in the logs to a different time zone?

blazing halo
blazing halo
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The warnings you've shown are normal. They indicate that the server finished startup and is now ready to accept client connections (EOS is the last thing to initialise during startup).

blazing halo
blazing halo
peak vessel
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ah, ok well thanks. It is currently at +6 from my local time, I think lol

blazing halo
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Check if the server is ahead of you, because that's probably it.

peak vessel
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its running on my desktop, the same as the client; is that what you mean?

blazing halo
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... wait, you have the server on your machine, and it's showing the wrong time?

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... huh. SO IT DOES.

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That's weird as fuck.

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I never noticed!

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It will show the correct time in the beginning of the log, and then the wrong time afterwards... weird.

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How did I never notice?

blazing halo
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I'm personally a fan of incremental timestamps myself.

peak vessel
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Haha nah, it's good, I'm just glad it's not only me

sullen aurora
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anyone around to give me a hand with a server for a sec?

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im trying to run a server on a dedicated machine in my house, i have forwarded all the correct ports and have checked the server is receiving them when its turned on

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i can also connect to my server locally and it works

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firewall rules have been applied

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but when i check using an online checker to see if the ports are open, they always come back as closed

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I have checked the port forwarding in my router and its all correct

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if anyone knows a way to troubleshoot this, that would be great.

quiet cairn
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Otherwise at this point it seems like your ISP is blocking it. Reach out to them.

sullen aurora
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@quiet cairn yes, the dedicated server was running as i was able to connect to it locally. I dont see any reason why the ISP would be blocking it? Or is there a way to check this?

quiet cairn
sullen aurora
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I figure if the powershell promp indicates that it can pick up the ports while the server is running, which it can, that the ports are open and good to go?

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prompt*

quiet cairn
sullen aurora
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The wiki gives you a tool to run through a powershell command which tells you if the ports are open

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and i run it, and the 3 ports show up

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so i figure thats working normally.

quiet cairn
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Use this instead

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can you see me . o r g

sullen aurora
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should i run that from the dedicated server?

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all good, i got it

quiet cairn
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Is it open or closed there?

sullen aurora
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Error: I could not see your service on 119.18.XXX.XXXon port (15777)
Reason: Connection timed out

quiet cairn
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Yeah that's not good

sullen aurora
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thats what i figured, but if i run the wiki tool, it shows the ports there

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LocalAddress LocalPort Process

:: 7777 UE4Server-Win64-Shipping
:: 15000 UE4Server-Win64-Shipping
0.0.0.0 15777 UE4Server-Win64-Shipping
:: 15777 UE4Server-Win64-Shipping

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i have to take off, but thanks for the help. ill try and troubleshoot it more a bit later.

quiet cairn
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Most people don't understand that local IP addresses have incoming and outgoing ports. It may say it's listening on that port. That doesn't necessarily mean it's actually open. If the ISP is blocking it the tool might not show shit

quiet cairn
sullen aurora
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ahhh right ok, makes sense. ill have to contact my isp

quiet cairn
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At this point I don't know what else it could be. You have done your homework

sullen aurora
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yeah, i have had servers running on my machine before, but the Satisfactory one refuses to allow connections.

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thanks, ill see what i can dig up.

quiet cairn
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I'd try that

sullen aurora
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ok ill give that a whirl and report back

sullen aurora
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@quiet cairn So it appears my ISP is using CGNAT, so port forwarding wont work. So that would mean i cant host.

blazing halo
blazing halo
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(yes, I understand what you were trying to say, but that's no excuse to pass on partial facts; put some effort into it! :D)

sullen aurora
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@blazing halo i just got off the phone with my ISP and got them to disable CGNAT. So I'm gonna give it another crack later on when I have some time. Will let you know. @quiet cairn

jolly fiber
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I'm trying to set up a dedicated server for my friends. I downloaded the tool through Steam, and it starts, but I can't find a config to edit my ports to what I have open. Any help is appreciated

vale parrot
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I suggest you look at the pins in this channel first and follow the guide on the wiki. It will be a learning experience as some basic knowledge is expected, but the wiki explains all you need.

jolly fiber
blazing halo
# jolly fiber I'm trying to set up a dedicated server for my friends. I downloaded the tool th...

So, you configure the ports with CLI switches: -ServerQueryPort=X (default 15777; this is the port you give out to clients, and the port used for the ServerSettings.XXXXX file extension) and -Port=X (default: 7777; auto-increments until a free port is found). The Beacon port is managed by the server executable itself (default: 15000, auto-increments until a free port is found). All of these are UDP.

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NOTICE: the Beacon port and game port (Port) will not fail startup if these are unavailable. The server will keep trying higher ports until a free one is found, and won't give two fucks if it doesn't match up with your port forwards... talk about silent failures... :/

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I would like to go on record with saying that this is idiotic and I would like to have a 5-minute talk with the person that made this design decision.

blazing halo
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Using -multihome will also disable the internal packet router, which may also help with connectivity issues.

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(the command itself is used to specify which interface the server should listen to... not sure why they decided to burden it with everything else; again, -protocol={4,6} would've been good enough, and -router=0 would also work well enough... not sure why they did what they did, I would argue quite a bit here)

crimson socket
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What is all this and how to fix?... Every time the server does this, it is having a hickup 2-3 sec for all the players on a small/medium savefile. 3-5MB save.

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quiet cairn
quiet cairn
blazing halo
crimson socket
# blazing halo That looks like a DNS resolution issue. Can you confirm your DNS resolver is wor...

Hi. Sorry, not shure what this is...
I am using Google DNS, and this is an Hyper-V Ubuntu install on an up to date Windows 11 computer, where internet, Browsing with more is working perfectly well. Also filesharing to other comptuer in the network. Also have an NAT setup for this Satisfactory server, and it is all working fine inside and outside my network. Where people miles away connecting without problem, aswell myselfe from 2 other computers to the game.

blazing halo
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Well, it's referencing DNS resolution, so until further notice I say it's a DNS resolution issue.

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Set up dnsmasq, give it a list of servers to use (like Google, OpenDNS/FreeDNS or whatever it's called, etc.) and point your server towards it.

crimson socket
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What is a DNS resolution issue?
A DNS issue i could understand, but why it is a issue/problem i dont understand, as other things working perfectly well.

blazing halo
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"connection #n is still name resolving, cannot reuse"

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That's pointing to a DNS resolution issue.

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Resolve the immediate problem and see if the issue with the server persists.

crimson socket
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Not an expert on Linux... and about DNS, this is all i have done, or know about this.

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blazing halo
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How about you purchase a Satisfactory server from one of the nice hosting companies? 😁

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Otherwise, you can wait until tomorrow, and I can help you further with this.

crimson socket
# blazing halo Resolve the immediate problem and see if the issue with the server persists.

Server is working, game is working, browsing is working, and connecting to the game and gaming on it is working...
But every now and then, all this text popping up on the console/terminal, and game lagging a few sec.. same as when the server is saving the game, it lagging out a few sec for the connected players. myselfe included on a PC on the same network as the linux VM

blazing halo
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Saving the game will cause lag, unfortunately. It locks up the main thread.

crimson socket
blazing halo
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Yeah, it's 2 AM for me, and I've been up 25 hours.

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And setting up a local resolver is not a simple process at all.

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I mean, it is, but isn't at the same time.

crimson socket
blazing halo
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There's a way to configure the autosave interval. But if you're having trouble with a 3-5 MB game, you're kinda screwed a little anyway. :)

crimson socket
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Anyhow, thanks a ton, not ment to keep you awake.. i contact you tomorrow if that is ok for you. 🙂
Thanks again for responce

blazing halo
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If you happen to be Polish, I can switch to that language in DM (and yes, we'll be debugging this in a DM).

crimson socket
blazing halo
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It's something.

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Okay. Hit me up in about 18 hours.

crimson socket
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👍

frosty gale
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Can you save server games to use later in a private game?

desert walrus
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Should be able to

fleet hearth
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which can be done through the server manager if you have admin rights

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has anyone ever have a problem with Programable splitters while on a dedicate server?

blazing halo
blazing halo
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(this is due to the fact that even a single-player session is essentially a "server" session, except the server in this case is built into the game client)

lyric grail
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Hello ! I'm trying to update my server to the experimental build. I used the command from the wiki which is steamcmd +force_install_dir ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate +quit but the server is still on the "normal" version

blazing halo
lyric grail
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yup ...

blazing halo
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Did the update complete properly?

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Are you logged into the correct user?

lyric grail
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I had no errors so I think yes

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yup

blazing halo
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Wipe folder and install fresh?

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(I assume you're sure you're launching the correct executable)

lyric grail
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that's a little bit more complicated, I'm with steamcmd

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no gui

blazing halo
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Not sure how that's complicated?

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rm -r ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/*?

lyric grail
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oh yes, I was talking about "(I assume you're sure you're launching the correct executable)"

blazing halo
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Okay, elaborate.

lyric grail
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yup I'm going to try rm + redownload, I just tried to switch to public and then switch again to experimental but nothing changed

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same problem

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I don't understand that's weird

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maybe a config file ?

blazing halo
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No.

lyric grail
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ok I think I'm stupid

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It looks like I have 2 games I just installed it on the wrong path

blazing halo
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You can try something like

cat /proc/`ps ax | grep -i [U]E4 | tr -s " " | cut -d ' ' -f 2`/cmdline
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(assuming you have just the one running)

lyric grail
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what is that supposed to do ? ```
sfserver@desktop-maho:~/serverfiles$ cat /proc/ps ax | grep -i [U]E4 | tr -s " " | cut -d ' ' -f 2/cmdline
cat: /proc/9998: est un dossier
cat: 9999/cmdline: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type

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but I think I just installed the game in the wrong folder

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sfserver is using serverfiles folder, and I created with the command SatisfactoryDedicatedServer

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the 2 folders contains the same things

blazing halo
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Why there'd be a space, I'm not sure.

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Also, you never mentioned using sfserver. Or LinuxGSM.

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You do realise that with a third-party server manager, all diagnostics are different, right?

lyric grail
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my bad, that's not the official way ?

blazing halo
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No.

lyric grail
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oh ....

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I thought it was sorry

blazing halo
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The official way is to install it with steamcmd like you showed above, and then running it directly.

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Beyond that, nobody cares what or how you do it.

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I personally don't.

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But when you come asking for help, bring all of the relevant information. :/

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Also, I have no idea how LinuxGSM does what it does.

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I recommend you ask for help from LinuxGSM peeps. They'll know more.

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(but if I were to wager a guess, you probably need to use the same tool to manage it)

lyric grail
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I think I'm just going the reinstall the server using the official wiki without sfserver

blazing halo
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Make sure to remove everything you've had running, or stop and disable it at the very least.

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Otherwise it's going to keep doing its own thing, which may be confusing down the line.

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(like it just literally was)

lyric grail
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yup thanks and sorry x) I just copied and pasted the steamcmd command stupidly without knowing where it was working, thinking it was related to sfserver and everything would work fine...

blazing halo
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Live and learn. :)

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But yeah. If you're asking for help, try to make sure you have all of the relevant information. What software you're using is an absolute must, really.

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You didn't realise. Now you know better. Please remember, because it might be taken as you not giving a shit about someone's time.

lyric grail
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Yeah, it's noted, gtg, have a good evening!

blazing halo
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And you.

sullen aurora
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Hey guys, me again. I am still having issues with port forwarding, despite having my CGNat issue resolved. canyouseeme still shows my ports as closed, even though i have confirmed they are correct in the router. I also noticed this in the bottom of the server log appear after 300s of the server being up and running. Any assistance would be great.

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whats with ports, 61119, 53271, 50016 and 50019? I have not forwarded any of these ports and they also show as closed.

quiet cairn
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@sullen aurora rip. Alright. Let's try something unorthodox. Look in your routers settings for an option called "DMZ", set your computer IP or MAC (if given the option). Delete all port forwarding settings. Reboot. That will literally give your computer complete access outside the routers firewall. Once you do that. At least we know it's not your router anymore. If no dice, then disable windows firewall temporarily to rule that out.

sullen aurora
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@quiet cairn im in the process of testing out another router I have to see if it's the router causing issues. I also tried disabling windows firewall before but that didn't help. I'll try your suggestion as well and see what happens.

Is there a downside to leaving the DMZ on? Just means that all ports on my server would be open right?

quiet cairn
sullen aurora
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I'm swapping out an archer vr1600v 2 for an Archer c9. I think the archer c9 is a bit more robust and has something called nat boost which I have already disabled (apparently this blocks port forwarding) but it also has the DMZ option which I can select an local ip for so I could just direct the DMZ to my server only.

quiet cairn
sullen aurora
quiet cairn
sullen aurora
quiet cairn
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Port forward 25565 with TCP/UDP. Download Java. Drop the minecraft_server.jar into a separate folder, run it, change eula file contents to true, close, run it again. Profit!

sullen aurora
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now im having issues with this haha

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god damn this whole process

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ok looks like i got that server up and running

quiet cairn
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And the port?

sullen aurora
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white box with lots of info?

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waiting for it to load

quiet cairn
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Cool

sullen aurora
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port has been forwarded

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let me test now

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omfg

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success

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it can see that port

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so how the fk do i make it do that for satisfactory

quiet cairn
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Congratulations

quiet cairn
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Maybe a reinstall?

sullen aurora
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tried that

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gonna try and install the server on my gaming pc

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see if its the server itself

sullen aurora
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ok so same shit,

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gonna try and do a dedicated server setup through the epic store dedicated server and see if that changes anything

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ahh fucking no idea, im able to get the server up and running through the epic store launcher, connect to it locally and load the game fine. but it still shows ports as closed. This is fucking dumb.,

blazing halo
# sullen aurora

That service only tests TCP ports. Use a service like this [h]ttps://check-host.net/check-udp to test for UDP ports (remember to specify your target as A.B.C.D:E where A.B.C.D is the IP and E is the port).

sullen aurora
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@blazing halo just in the process of reinstalling the server (again) will try in a moment

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im getting good at this.

blazing halo
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Also, that IP (192.168.1.126) looks quite random. Did you assign a static DHCP lease to that machine?

sullen aurora
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yeah it was static

blazing halo
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Hm, interesting. Any particular reason you've assigned that particular address? Asking out of simple curiosity at this point.

sullen aurora
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I initially set the system up using a TP Link Deco system, which gave out dynamic IPs initially, you then configured the static IP by selecting which devices you wanted to have them, and it just continued to use those IPs

blazing halo
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Also, for future reference: if you can connect to the server via LAN, then the server is probably fine. In most cases there's no functional difference between different incoming connections. For Satisfactory, there is... though I haven't been able to put my finger on it. It works for 99.9999% of the people out there, though - so if you can see it over LAN, the problem is elsewhere.

blazing halo
sullen aurora
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yup can definitely see it on LAN

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am testing it now

blazing halo
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Also, unless you are absolutely sure that your router supports (and has configured) NAT loopback, testing your public IP's interface from within your network will be inconclusive.

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Ask someone from the Internet to test your Internet-facing ports.

sullen aurora
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that UDP checker you sent just seems to time out?

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i got the flashing dots but then nothing after a few seconds

blazing halo
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Did you set the query properly?

sullen aurora
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at this stage i have tried 3 different routers, 2 tp links and a deco unit

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replaced the xxx with the actual IP

blazing halo
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Yeah, that looks correct.

sullen aurora
blazing halo
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Pass me your IP over DM, I'll test 2 of the 3 ports (the last one, the Game port, doesn't meaningfully respond to queries). I can at least tell you if I see expected replies.

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I can see the expected replies. Your port forwarding is set up correctly.

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There's quite a delay, due to the distance I expect, but the replies come in.

sullen aurora
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sorry, i just sent you more info via dm

blazing halo
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No, I just wanted the IP via DM. Let's continue troubleshooting here.

sullen aurora
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ok

blazing halo
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At any rate, it looks like the Internet can see your game.

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I will be unable to connect to your game due to unrelated circumstances within my network, so I can't test if it works correctly myself.

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But it should, unless you happen to be in the same boat as I am (which you probably aren't).

sullen aurora
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ok thanks, i tried another UPD scanner and it says its open. Ill see if i can get one of my friends to join it later on

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right now, i need a very big drink of something.

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thanks for all the help @quiet cairn @blazing halo

blazing halo
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Sure thing. You could probably ask someone over in the other channels to test it for you as well.

sullen aurora
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which channel would be best?

blazing halo
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Whichever happens to be active at the moment? :D

sullen aurora
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also, once i connect to the server and i authenticate as an admin, anyone else can just join as a player right?

blazing halo
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Don't know. You're not asking anyone to play with you.

sullen aurora
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they dont need to authenticate?

blazing halo
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It depends on whether you set the player password or not.

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If not, they can connect without authentication. If you do, they'll need to provide the password on adding the server.

sullen aurora
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ok, might get rid of the PW for testing purposes

blazing halo
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There are no other access control mechanisms in the game, by the way.

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Also, if you happen to have a dynamic IP, you'll probably want to invest in a DDNS solution.

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(though I say "invest", but you can get it for free actually)

sullen aurora
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My Deco x60 units have a built in DDNS, but i also have an account with no-ip as a backu

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backup*

blazing halo
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Ah, already have that covered. Good.

sullen aurora
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i have been through every part of that wiki and then some trying to get this to work haha

blazing halo
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Two things that most likely tripped you up - the fact that the game uses UDP exclusively, and the fact that your routers probably don't support NAT loopback.

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As to why that original port tester you used doesn't communicate that it exclusively checks TCP... I haven't the faintest.

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NAT loopback (also knowned as NAT hairpinning, or NAT reflection) is a very specific thing to support, and in most cases you don't actually need it.

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Here's a short writeup I did for ATLAS some years back -- [h]ttps://github.com/Kadigan/atlas-dedicated-server/blob/master/Documentation/NAT%20reflection%20(hairpinning%2C%20loopback%20etc.).md

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Let me reiterate: in 99% of the cases, you don't need this functionality. The issue only really affects you. If you can connect to your game via LAN, do that instead. It only really matters if you must connect to your public IP (which Satisfactory in particular doesn't require). It matters for ATLAS, because that game hands out the IPs you're supposed to connect to, so even if you give it your LAN address - it'll still try the WAN-facing one. ;P

sullen aurora
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Ahh right interesting read. There has to be a better way to sort this stuff out in the future though, make this whole process easier and more fluid.

blazing halo
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Not really. The developers can't really control your computer and/or network - and if you allow them to, you'll be setting a dangerous precedent.

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Bottom line?

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Networking is hard, and no amount of obfuscating or prettifying will abstract that away.

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The fact of the matter is - you're trying to run a service on the Internet. The fact that it's a game server (as opposed to, say, FTP, e-mail or WWW) matters not.

sullen aurora
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Agreed, I have setup dedicated servers before though and none have been as hard as this. I still have yet to confirm if people can actually join it.

blazing halo
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Honestly? Satisfactory is one of the easiest servers I ever set up.

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Minus the fact that it doesn't actually work with my network... but otherwise? One of the easiest, easily.

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I'm afraid to propose you try to set up ATLAS... xD

blazing halo
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Also, this is IT work. ;-] Sitting around, working the problem, trying out solutions. All your friends will ever see is "didn't work; a day later, it was working". None of the stress, the puzzlement, asking for help, none of it. It wasn't working, and now it is.

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If you do your job well, nobody knows you even exist. ;]

clear blaze
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Today I tried to set up the server as a service with nssm. It seems to work, but I´d like to see the log. Already added -log to the argument, but no log opens when starting the server. Somebody got an idea how tho fix it?

sharp otter
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Dedicated server doesn't really need a GPU does it? Could I run one off a laptop with 1135G7(11th gen 4c8t) and 16GB ram?
I'm hoping to improve my frames since they're kinda trash rn. Dips below 30fps 1% lows.
I mean I'm also trying to change my 5950x to 5800x3d, but I don't have high hopes to find anyone who has the 5800x3d but needs 5950x. (I'm from Estonia, that's the problem)

blazing halo
blazing halo
sharp otter
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The laptop has a performance mode in bios, think it increases the CPU TDP and is more aggressive with the fan. I'll compare R23 scores out of curiosity.

blazing halo
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That would probably be very helpful, yes. At a guess, that thing's TDP would be a default of what, 40W? 45W?

sharp otter
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Looks like it's only between 12W-28W, but do be fair 4 cores isn't that crazy either.

blazing halo
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Ah, true.

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Not that you need cores, really. Game has a heavy single-thread bias.

sharp otter
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Yeah I own the 5950x lmao

blazing halo
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Still, I'm personally on a 3900X, so I know for a fact that moving the logic to a server won't help much.

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(running a save on my server or PC, makes no difference)

sharp otter
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But it's weird how I joined a late game session that was on a dedicated server and my fps was doubled...

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Performance bios got 5345 r23 multicore. I'll try normal bios now.

clear blaze
blazing halo
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Services don't interact with the desktop - that's sort of the point.

clear blaze
blazing halo
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I mean think about it - it needs to be running even when there's no user logged into an interactive session. Where would the window go? Who would it belong to?

sharp otter
lyric grail
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bruh

blazing halo
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wut

lyric grail
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yup sorry it's me I @ you but the bot deleted my message because of a link

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So I clean installed the game but it's worse

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So, following the wiki (steam+satis), I re-installed steamcmd in steam user, and I also installed the game in the same user directory (idk if that's good ?). But, when launching SF Server, with ./FactoryServer.sh start, I got a lot of errors, all of them say that it can't load SteamAPI. ```
[2022.08.18-13.49.48:417][ 0]LogGenericPlatformMisc: Error: SetEnvironmentVar not implemented for this platform: SteamAppId = 526870
dlopen failed trying to load:
steamclient.so
with error:
steamclient.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
dlopen failed trying to load:
/home/steam/.steam/sdk64/steamclient.so
with error:
/home/steam/.steam/sdk64/steamclient.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[S_API] SteamAPI_Init(): Sys_LoadModule failed to load: /home/steam/.steam/sdk64/steamclient.so
[2022.08.18-13.49.48:418][ 0]LogSteamShared: Warning: Steam Dedicated Server API failed to initialize.
[2022.08.18-13.49.48:418][ 0]LogOnline: STEAM: [AppId: 0] Game Server API initialized 0
[2022.08.18-13.49.48:418][ 0]LogOnline: Warning: STEAM: Failed to initialize Steam, this could be due to a Steam server and client running on the same machine. Try running with -NOSTEAM on the cmdline to disable.
[2022.08.18-13.49.48:418][ 0]LogOnline: Display: STEAM: OnlineSubsystemSteam::Shutdown()
[2022.08.18-13.49.48:418][ 0]LogOnline: Warning: STEAM: Steam API failed to initialize!

I'm on ubuntu 22.04
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Looks like I'm supposed to have something in /home/steam/.steam/, but I have only a file called registry.vdf

fallow sun
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Mods still not supported by dedicated Servers ?

lyric grail
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And server is online but got an error while trying to connect, which shut it down

unknown.png
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kk it's working it looks like it was the map, but are the errors important ?

blazing halo
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I know it sounds backwards, but that's how it is. And, more importantly, putting pressure on CSS won't achieve a damn thing because they're not the ones that have to do stuff to make it work.

blazing halo
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The server uses neither, so neither is configured - but of course, it'll bitch about it regardless. ;]

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You can link the file if you wish, it'll make it shut up about it missing. The warnings about STEAM API failing to initialise will remain, however.

lyric grail
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kk thanks 😄

late coral
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(which is also why hand-crafted mods should technically work, but as far as I know - there aren't any, not really)

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One thing CSS could do would be to simply take the work done by the mod team and incorporate it into the engine, to remove the dependency.

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(well, I say "simply" - it would probably require a bit of legal gymnastics... but apart from that)

blazing halo
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Most likely to happen during either shutdown or at manual save load.

fallow sun
blazing halo
# fallow sun is it like that? I read that the dedicated servers are not able to load mods. An...

Okay, long story then:

Once upon a time, a new game came out - Satisfactory. People saw that it was good, but people wanted mods. So they set out to make some.

But Satisfactory was not easy to mod. It didn't have the various amenities that games typically do. Everything had to be cut out of the heart of the game, like old miners ripping the previous metals out of the heart of a mountain. The times were hard.

And then, a group of adventuring heroes saw the modders' plight! They decided to help, and they pooled their efforts to create an interface between the game and the mods -- something that allows many things to happen much more easily, like adding recipes, loading new objects and so on. They released this for free, and called it the "mod loader". Times were good.

Soon, every mod out there came to rely upon the mod loader.

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Fast forward to update 5. Dedicated servers are suddenly a thing, now.

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Except... the mod loader was not built with dedicated servers in mind. It doesn't work with them.

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And since every mod in existence relies on the mod loader being present...

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The server does have the ability to load mods. But as long as the mod loader isn't compatible with the server, no mods will work because they will all fail on the mod loader not being present.

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And this is how the mods are incompatible with the server, and not the other way around.

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The server can load them just fine.

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It's a small distinction, but an important one - because it's not the server that needs to change, but the mods themselves.

abstract harbor
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That was a nice story

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thanks for that 😉 I understood the issue

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@paper solar

blazing halo
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I honestly find it a funny situation, you know? For once, it's not the Big Bad Company that can't be arsed to work with its customers. :-)

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I mean, it can be argued that the dedicated server fucked things up, but having the server is a Good Thing(tm).

fallow sun
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who developed the mod loader? Are they even interested to make it dedicated server compatible ?

blazing halo
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The mod people are working on it, but their primary developer is carving time out of their busy offline life, so...

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The official answer is "we're working on it, but it may take a while, please stop asking". ;)

fallow sun
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ah ok. So hopefully they get it working soon

opal yoke
blazing halo
fallow sun
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that is the spirit

opal yoke
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Like i need more of this mod story

fallow sun
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that is how you answer questions in a q&a channel 😄

opal yoke
blazing halo
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I hope it also makes clear why server hosting companies like Nitrado can't offer mod support for their Satisfactory offerings, no matter how much they lie about it.

sullen radish
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Came here to check how to run experimental on my server. Found it immediately in the pinned post that points to the wiki entry.

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Thanks for the good work folks.

opal yoke
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Does the server run on ubuntu 20.04

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?

opal yoke
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O-o

vapid vector
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Hey Guys, Maybe I am asking a dumb question. My friends and I wants to start a creative mode on our dedicated server. But it seems the mods and console commands does not work the same way as multiplayer game.

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Is there any way we can have 'creative sandbox' experience in our dedicated server or its simply not possible

opal yoke
cold remnant
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difficulty tuner

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@vapid vector

blazing halo
blazing halo
wintry stone
blazing halo
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Same.

opal yoke
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K

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Q: Is there any particular build of linux that is good/better for a DS?

desert walrus
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Arch would probably be good if you want to go through the headache

vital grove
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Headaches aren't cool.

blazing halo
vital grove
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Alrighty. Cool. Thank you both for the feedback.

blazing halo
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You could technically get away with the kernel, the bootloader, a few libraries, and the executable - for a complete system. ;P

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Would be a pain to manage and update, but... xD

vital grove
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Prolly not going to go that stripped. I've used Ubuntu, Mint, CentOS, and I think a few others in the past. Plus it will be fun for me to dabble again.

blazing halo
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But yeah, otherwise... I mean, take a stable rel and switch repo sources around - get a bleeding edge rel.

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I swear by Debian, but some people dislike systemd on principle.

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(and yes, for all its stability, it can be late to the party... I mean, it's a tradeoff)

quiet cairn
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Now the steam deck ( which I have ) does an amazing job with gaming in Arch. Look at SteamOS for a build.

blazing halo
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I don't know if it's distro pride or someshit like that, but I find it funny when people say "Ubuntu based" but can't take it when I say "Debian based" :D

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(that's not a jab at anyone in particular, mind)

blazing halo
quiet cairn
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  • which is my point. Going by that alone, Debian would probably be the source. But there's also Fedora and SUSE, and back in the day RPM was the way to go, so...
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But I do agree that, for general people, Ubuntu and its derivs are probably the way to go.

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Much nicer bundled UIs all around, have to admit.

quiet cairn
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I do admit though I I kind of like Debian it is the grandfather of all of them so to speak and we should appreciate it as such

blazing halo
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Honestly, I mostly appreciate it as a rock-solid server distro.

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But yeah, it's a damn granddaddy.

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It was "the go-to server distro" back when I was starting out.

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But to be fair, everything has gotten much easier with Linux. It's no longer a joke to say that it's viable as a desktop for non-technical people.

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It took three decades, true, but it's not like everyone was working on the same thing... xD

quiet cairn
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I never thought macos would ever be successful either and here we are. If a major company picks it up let's say like valve and makes it compatible with a lot of things then maybe it will have a chance

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Wine never really have that type of backing before

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Because at this point there's nothing really stopping Linux for Windows users

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Besides gaming compatibility

blazing halo
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Wine... the misshapen elephant in the room. :D

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But hey, they've advanced by leaps and bounds as well. We've gone from "like 10 things work" to "it'll work if you put in the time... and with some luck". It's not up there with "it just works", but it's slowly moving in that general direction.

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But you know, I can't in good conscience hold it against Microsoft. They monopolised the market for a good while, true, but that sort of stability was crucial to bringing investment into a field that was barely off the ground. I'm not saying it couldn't have happened without them, but maybe it would've taken longer? And it's not like open initiatives are always the best solution - just look at OpenGL.

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Open source takes a good, long while to get good.

quiet cairn
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I like Microsoft. Don't get me wrong. Leaps and bounds better then IBM was in the 90s. But I think windows should be more community driven.

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Or they just gonna fold in that regard to Linux

blazing halo
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They probably will. And to be fair, I actually like the balance Windows strikes.

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I mean, look at macOS...

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Microsoft is in the business of trying to please absolutely everybody, and I really like it. Neither Linux nor macOS try - Linux because you can damn please yourself if you really want to, and macOS because Apple is selling "a way of life".

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I mean, it's an exercise in compromise all over, Windows. And that's a good thing.

quiet cairn
blazing halo
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You can't please everybody. Someone will be dissatisfied no matter what you do.

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It's the point of compromise.

quiet cairn
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Agreed

blazing halo
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It's not as flexible as Linux, but not as rigid as macOS. And it's had time to become good.

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(because let's face it, until XP came around - it just wasn't)

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But it's also not like things would've been better without Microsoft. The free market hates vacuum.

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We'd have something else to rage against, no worries. :D

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Microsoft took the "moderate" slot, which put them exactly where they needed to be to sell to business. Power to them.

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And for what it's worth, that's their mainstay really.

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Now that Linux is getting strong enough to support end users easily, Microsoft is putting emphasis on the business end of their market.

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Besides, we now have ARM, so things can evolve in directions we didn't previously envision.

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It's like everybody and their aunt has a mobile-first app-like interface nowadays... and with embed dev and ARM, that's easier than it ever was.

marsh dawn
frosty gale
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Anyone who might be able to help?

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It's not a firewall issue:

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