off-topic-tech

[twin dew]

But without motion vectors the result is often a mess.

[night girder]

It's simple.

This is what I should get. For some reason AMD enable that toggle out of the box.

And I was not getting good FPS.

[wanton orchid]

upgrading to
I thought it was the inplace of dlss thing

[night girder]

OR. It was caching in background while gaming.

Because updating adrenaline mostly clears the cache 🤔

[twin dew]

As it should, as shader caches are driver tied too.

[wanton orchid]

not exactly iirc, but well made games will rebuild their own

[night girder]

Some games have indicator to show their caching.

Some games don't allow gameplay untill caching complete.

This one just lets you play maybe at herrendous framerate.

but my framerate and everything was double.

[twin dew]

Just about the "driver update invalidates caches" part.

[night girder]

it was 36 FPS and 25ms kframe time, everything was choppy. And it's a difficult game where every second matters.

Oh I didn't update my drivers.

I said Adrenalin 😄

[twin dew]

Not the horrondous performance because that FSR was enabled in drivers.

[twin dew]

And how do you update Adrenalin without updating your drivers too?
As the Adrenalin version and driver version are linked?

[night girder]

Yeah, only software.

By not clicking Chipset Drivers?

[twin dew]

That is the drivers too.

For GPU.

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/the-fuck-disgust-will-smith-gif-5241978

[twin dew]

That "AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition" is IGP/GPU drivers.
That "AMD Chipset Drivers" is MB drivers.

[night girder]

So AMD was like, lets put GPU drivers and Adnrenalin Edition together.

And put the rest of the drivers (CPU I guess) as additional update?

That's tiny bit confusing and not transparant.

But explains it then.

[twin dew]

First is what you install with GPU.
Second is what you install with AMD based system for MB and CPU, but you also install the first for IGP.

[cold tide]

nah, AMDs drivers have been rock solid. Why are you messing with those toggles in-driver anyway.

only time you need to mess with fsr in the drivers, is when you have rdna4 and override fsr4 in a 3.1 game

[wanton orchid]

I just checked again and yes
these toggles are for dlss and old fsr compatibility
a game that run fsr3 will run latest instead

[twin dew]

The name for that IGP/GPU driver is currently a marketing rebranding mess.
Where that Adrenalin Edition is from the old GPU driver name subbranding.

Used to be AMD Radeon Software: X Edition, and at some point they dropped that Radeon from the name for some unknown reason.

[wanton orchid]

the main part is the driver, the software only let you configure it

[twin dew]

And even farther back, they didn't have that useless X Edition branding, which was then added to probably denote major branches.

And now they have forgotten what that part originally meant and just keep it as Adrenalin Edition, even when branches have changed.

[wanton orchid]

it's like GeForce in a way

Adrenalin = GeForce experience

[cold tide]

except less shit

[wanton orchid]

there is a pro driver aside of that

it's only marketing, do not look too much about it

what's matter is drivers in the package

[twin dew]

Basically there was ATi Catalyst -> AMD Catalyst -> AMD Radeon Software -> AMD Radeon Software: Crimson Edition -> AMD Radeon Software: Adrenalin Edition -> AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition, and now the name is complete fuckup, where none of the parts really mean anything anymore.

[wanton orchid]

it's only Adrenalin software now

[twin dew]

Where that addition of Crimson was big change in drivers, change to Adrenalin was big change in drivers.

[wanton orchid]

since they went for GeForce like configuration capabilities (and thank you for that )

[wanton orchid]

Anyway, tldr : they advertise software update because that's what people sees
but it's really driver updates

[twin dew]

And that is the name of the GPU driver package.
Even if you select to install it as "Driver only", without AMD Software GUI at all.

[cold tide]

also you can export driver settings. Just import it again after an update. should always be the same again, it even places back the overclock.

[twin dew]

And shouldn't need even that if you don't select to do clean install.

[wanton orchid]

they improved color mapping in latest drivers btw, and I like it (it reflects better windows color settings)

[wanton orchid]

some options changed, new menues
it's not always 1:1

works best for per game profiles probably

[night girder]

Also, wth is this?

28.99 for feet?

Steam is getting weirder and weirder.

[twin dew]

For feet fetishists?

[night girder]

Look at why it recommends it to me.

"Since you recently played Blender"

[twin dew]

Yeah, it says it is for "Drawing references"...

[night girder]

Steam is going to get nuked in the future with +18 age verification, well the way its all heading.

they walking a fine line for way too long.

[unique smelt]

They already do do +18 age verification, they just do it the way it was supposed to be done

As long as you have a valid credit card attached to your account it's verified as 18+ in the UK

Which is how it was supposed to be done, not using dodgy face estimation technology or uploading ID that's allegedly deleted only to be found out it's leaked later on (hello discord)

[night girder]

Nah, it will be EU age verification released this year.

EU already said they going to apply it to adult websites. Or said to adult websites; implement something.

And at the same time telling adult websites; and btw, we the EU have something you can use, if you want.

ec.europa.eu/digital-building-blocks/sites/spaces/EUDIGITALIDENTITYWALLET/pages/694487738/EU+Digital+Identity+Wallet+Home

I am just thinking that this will be applied to more and more services.

Because we have to protect kids.

[unique smelt]

Honestly, being from the UK, it's better to just encourage better parenting than force legislations down people, because of the OSA alone, I can't access legitimate sites like Imgur anymore, it harms businesses and encourages more dangerous ways of bypassing said regulations

[night girder]

Also fun fact, hacker stole 350GB data from European Commision.

but we totally should trust a centralized application from EU that will read our ID in

www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/european-commission-investigating-breach-after-amazon-cloud-account-hack/

[unique smelt]

Yup, that's why I think the credit card strategy is ultimately better and actually under the OSA is a perfectly valid way of doing so yet corporate bodies still insist on face ID or more invasive methods of verification

[night girder]

So they are not immune to hacks. And meanwhile want to built a system that invades our privacy with the argument it enhances our privacy.

In theorie, the application should just seend True/False to websites.

User -> put in ID -> Application -> TRUE/FALSE for age send to -> Service.

So the service doesn't know who you are. In theory.

And the Application doesn't know where it sends the data to. And from who. In theory 🤣

[night girder]

Honestly, I was a bit surprised how easy it went down in the UK. I though they would be way more pusback on it.

[unique smelt]

I hated the whole digital ID approach to things in the UK and I'm glad they did a U-turn on it because Northern Ireland specifically was a very oddball case to work with

It's not how easy it went down, it's that we have no choice in the matter

[night girder]

Protests? Lobby companies?

[unique smelt]

Did happen, nothing changed

[night girder]

atleast the VPNs are still up. For now.

[unique smelt]

We did get a U-turn on digital IDs, and I'm glad because as an Irish citizen I wouldn't have been pleased to have British identity forced upon me

Working in Northern Ireland and yet I have to somehow provide a British ID for a country I'm already legally allowed to work in lol

[night girder]

Yeah, it sucks. But that's history.

[unique smelt]

You know it's bad when all of Ireland unites against something lmao

[night girder]

It's just sily how to reduce our freedom AND at the same time trying to fool us into we're gaining freedom.
And it works for 50% of the people who buy it.

[unique smelt]

I hate that I absolutely cannot use Imgur now, even with a VPN, most of the satisfactory modding pages uses it and I just have to take a blind guess as to what's happening

[night girder]

Why can't you use imgur?

[unique smelt]

because they pulled out of the UK after the OSA and stopped providing services

Because imgur refused to apply age verification measures

[night girder]

which is their right 😄

[twin dew]

Should work with VPN when that VPN endpoint is outside UK.

[night girder]

but a VPN should work...

[unique smelt]

one thing that could blow the OSA wide open is if the US supreme court rules that companies who dont operate in the UK at all dont need to obey it, like 4chan for example has been getting fines weekly from OFCOM and has just went "lol no"

[night girder]

Yeah exactly Baldur. There is no way they should know you from the UK, if the VPN works correctly.

[unique smelt]

when i use a VPN it flags an error

[night girder]

Unless they blocked VPN nodes.

[twin dew]

Yeah, free VPNs are almost certainly no-go and blocked.

[unique smelt]

all i get these days accessing imgur on a vpn

[night girder]

Hehe ... random message probably.

[unique smelt]

i use a non-free vpn and its still blocked

[night girder]

Security through obscurity.

[twin dew]

403 is "Forbidden", the error message is for different code.

Which would align with VPN block.

[night girder]

Well

sometimes back-ends throws random stuff back

to throw off anyone trying to gain knowledge on it.

[twin dew]

Actual capacity problem should use different code.

[night girder]

And also, the error stuff is something tiny bit brittle on the code side.

Depending on the language etc and how good the programmer is 😄

[twin dew]

503 is Service Unavailable, so might be typo from 503 to 403.

[night girder]

Oh, sorry now I see the code too.

Yeah, probably.

Ah no.

[twin dew]

As that 503 is right response when cannot deal with request because of overwork.

[night girder]

Error message has "data" that comes from other part of system.

And that data has the error that it's over capacity.

But they wrap it up in a 403 it seems.

Normal error wouldn't have "data" field and just straight "message" field.

Now when any device on my network requests an Imgur image, it works. My phone, my laptop, guest devices, everything. No VPN apps to install, no browser extensions, no manual configuration. Pi-hole intercepts the DNS, Traefik routes the connection, and Gluetun tunnels it through a non-UK exit point.

You can try this: blog.tymscar.com/posts/imgurukproxy/

Someone ran into the same problem and fixed it 😄 Without VPN app*.

[twin dew]

Yeah, but still VPN involved, just via that ready made Docker image running on the Pi.

So would still need to find a VPN provider which would work with Imgur.

And then it would work with direct VPN connection too.

So that is just convoluted way to redirect only Imgur traffic over VPN.

[night girder]

that's why I added "app*" 😉

[night girder]

but it works! And c'mon, a little bit impressive 😄

[twin dew]

With the right VPN provider.
But with that right VPN provider the normal method would work too.

[night girder]

First, I just upgraded to 2.5 Gbps internet and I don’t want to route all my traffic through a VPN and take the speed hit. I have this bandwidth for a reason.

Second, even if I installed a VPN on my main machine, what about my phone? My laptop? My desktop? Every device would need the VPN running, and I’d have to remember to connect it before browsing. It’s messy.

I wanted something cleaner: a solution that works for every device on my network, automatically, without any client-side configuration.

They clearly state why they didn't go for VPN application. And those are valid arguments.

[twin dew]

Yes, it is nice.
Could have been done without extra crap of Traefik and Gluetun being bolted on, but that was in some way the easy way bolting existing ready-made components with large presence together into unholy mess.
But wouldn't help in this case which was the point.

[wanton orchid]

the exit point of tun device is a vpn

Gluetun is Glue -tun

[twin dew]

Yeah, it is just semi-automated, semi-universal VPN router as Docker container.

And Traefik is there as just replacement for DHCP server giving static routes to Imgur servers that pass through a VPN.

Could have been done with any kind of VPN client, with some iptables/nftables, and some routes.
DNS intercept optional to not send traffic that goes to same IPs as Imgur servers also through that VPN.

[night girder]

I was kinda hoping there would be mirror of imgur. Too much data to mirror I guess 🤣

[night girder]

Amazon strikes again.

(White, 0.3m).
Further down.
Size Name: 0.9m

[twin dew]

And two options, 0,9m and 0.9m

[night girder]

and the other 0.9m is white.

So 0.9 black. 0.9 white. And title says 0.3m white.

[twin dew]

Yeah, but should have same decimal separator anyways.

[night girder]

Always keep your eyes open when buying on amazon 🤣

Have carplay issues. Or more likely, hardware issues on refurbished iphone.

The bluetooth is very wonky and I suspect it's hardware related. And since carplay uses bluetooth and wifi. It sometimes doesn't work.

Also have issues with my bluetooth in ears. and my bluetooth JBL.

Anyway, the car I can fix by trying to run carplay over USB.

[pure karma]

why are you even looking for a cable that is 1CM long

OOOHHH thats M nevermind

[twin dew]

When the phone would be right next to the connector in car, why have long cable that will just be in the way?

So 30cm would have been plenty.

[pure karma]

yea no im dumb and tought it was 0.9mm and not 0,9M

who measures cables in M anyway lol

[twin dew]

Most of the world?

When the other common option is feet.
Using mm, cm or like is very uncommon unless the cable is shorter than around 0.5m.

[pure karma]

iv literally never seen a cable longer than 30CM being mesured in metric

unless website have automatic conversions like amazon generally does based on location

[twin dew]

Only in feet?
Because you live next to US.

[pure karma]

i mean generally really long cables eventually go back to metric but yea no its usually either 30CM 6ft or 12FT that cables are branded here

[twin dew]

Yeah, but that is basically US only, with you Canada getting spill-over from them.

Rest of the world doesn't.

[pure karma]

if i use canada english its in feet if i use canada french its in Metres cause the translation converts it lol

[twin dew]

Even those "manufactured in feet" cables are labeled as x.x m everywhere else.

Leading to 1.8m cables being somewhat common etc.

[pure karma]

english setting

[twin dew]

Where as metric manufactured cables will be 1.5m or 2.0m for most part.

[pure karma]

french setting

[twin dew]

Yeah, but point is that it is the same listings and stock as US.
So it is labeled all labeled to US common usage.

Which isn't true anywhere else.

[night girder]

I did came across a cable that was 6FT on amazon. Had to look it up how much it was in meters 🤣

[jagged snow]

1.8ish

[night girder]

but yeah, I don't want a rope in my car.

Since the USB port in the car is placed right next to comportmant to place phone in etc.

[twin dew]

@exotic sierra Scam image spammer.

[visual tree]

He posted in off-topic media too....

[twin dew]

Basically always on all channels that can take images.

[bronze jasper]

canadian cables are sold in meter lengths too. i see them all the time

it goes both ways though. like here > www.primecables.ca/p-409789-pc-cab-r90100w-2m-90-degree-c-to-c-cable-100w-2m < it's a 2m cable but it's also listed with feet.

boomers all grew up with imperial and a lot of them think switching was a trudeau conspiracy to increase gas prices (trudy sr)

[pure karma]

its either in feet or both generally but there no denying that on average its more often feet which is labeled as the primary measurement

[waxen pendant]

ppl are idiots

[bronze jasper]

One of my favorite Carlin quotes. "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."

[sharp matrix]

Sad but true

[oblique hamlet]

“Hate (hate), I'm your hate
I'm your hate when you want love”

[dire igloo]

"Fuck! You! You're a fucking wanker! We're gonna punch you right in the balls!"

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-jeff-bridges-jeffrey-lebowski-the-dude-stir-gif-23172125

[dire igloo]

"Quadruple amputee and cornhole pro accused of shooting man while driving"
real actual headline

oh, and the stuff I said earlier was a quote from a song

[cold tide]

who doesnt recognize alestorm lol

[waxen pendant]

Ive only heard of alestorm because they were opening for other bands. Also there lead guitar player smells like dead rotting fish

Which i guess fits the theme

[pure karma]

me

[waxen pendant]

Pirate metal is a niche subgenre

[twin dew]

Old: Someone believing that Google/Alphabet will still be around 100 years from now?
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/02/alphabet-selling-very-rare-100-year-bunds-to-help-fund-ai-investment/

(Buyers are almost certainly planning to offload the bonds to other suckers later, in another case of musical chairs in financial world)

Ah, Alphabet even has additional shell company in the mix...

[twin dew]

But ok, bondholders are before shareholders on the line if company goes bankrupt.

[tall forum]

@weak walrus what card did you have

[weak walrus]

4090

The one from PNY

[sharp matrix]

Guess your not upgrading anytime soon, especially with how disappointing the 5090 is by comparison

Well its a strong card, so your good to go for many many years at least probably

[weak walrus]

If warranty covers it, otherwise honestly idk what I’d do

[sharp matrix]

depends on year purchase and how many years of warranty you have left

but usually cards arent known to just break, even after many many years of use, heck people still have and use 1080ti cards and that was released over 8 years ago

[weak walrus]

It is still covered but maybe they can find a stupid reason, why this is my fault

[sharp matrix]

well I dont know how many warranty claims pny denies for anything, let alone gpu's

but probably nothing to worry about, the prospect of needing to do warranty on a gpu even in the next few years is probably unlikely

[weak walrus]

Look in #off-topic-media My 12VHPWR melted, that’s my issue

[sharp matrix]

More melting connectors

God i forget nvidia is still using these god awful connectors

And just watch nvidia is going to use these garbage connectors for 60 series to, what trash

[weak walrus]

As far as I know they updated them to not burn down anymore, but I still had the old one

[sharp matrix]

no thats more nvidia lies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqtqYkzcMEc

the 5090 power connectors melt to, because they in reality changed nothing and its still the same garbage....

[weak walrus]

That’s an new unrelated issue

[sharp matrix]

well im not suprised, its literal a trash tier standard, that isnt even a standard because its such utter garbage

[weak walrus]

This comes from the card pulling a way amperes (more than 20) from one pin/cable than the other ones. The old melting issue like mine is from the connector not being perfectly tight

[sharp matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50uhj8AN8mQ

on the plus side northbridge is still trying to fix nvidias mess

[weak walrus]

Der8auer made a Great Video on it

[sharp matrix]

5090s designed to keep repair shops busy

[weak walrus]

But that doesn’t make it better the problem just transformed

[sharp matrix]

doesnt matter, its still garbage

[weak walrus]

https://youtu.be/Ndmoi1s0ZaY?is=Uyb4NXC98457n3ME

[sharp matrix]

aka the video above, oh look more 5090 melting connectors...how unexpected....

[weak walrus]

Yeah, but you can’t get anything else on the market

You can’t just swap the socket and connector

[pure karma]

Its a garbage standard to replace a perfectly fine existing standard

[sharp matrix]

so now we will buy garbage, accept the connectors are going to melt because its such garbage tier and be happy?

[pure karma]

2x 8 pins

[sharp matrix]

sounds wonderful

[weak walrus]

Unfortunately there’s no other option

[pure karma]

nvidia made a bad conector intentionally when the standard that dosent melt down is there

[weak walrus]

Which manufacturer sells these

[pure karma]

And no one chose to stick to the safe one

[sharp matrix]

better get that extra extended warranty ready then

[pure karma]

None cause nvidia bought them out to use there conector

[weak walrus]

That’s what I mean. It’s shit, but it’s your only option

[sharp matrix]

when the only option is garbage that cant be trusted

[sharp matrix]

he did a great video, but still doesnt do anything for all of the users that are actively at risk of their connectors melting....

not that nvidia is going to do anything either, the company is making alot of money on ai, doesnt give a shit about its consumer base

infact its probably preparing to use the same garbage on 60 series to...wait for it

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1r9dr86/it_happened_my_5090_connector_burned/

you can find more and more examples of these 5090 connectors melting, is this really safe, doesnt look very safe by any reasonable defintion

[weak walrus]

The new 6x2 connector at least partially solves the problem (melting due to small gaps), but the problem with the overamp on a cable still persists, unless you buy a special card where every line is monitored separately (of course the founders edition doesn’t do it)

[sharp matrix]

thats the problem its not actually properly fixed, hence the connectors are still melting....

and its even worse in someways for the 5090 because of the even higher power draw

which only increases those risks

[weak walrus]

That’s exactly the problem Der8auer explained. Two pins carried more than 20A and melted, everything else is fine

[sharp matrix]

www.tweaktown.com/news/110219/undervolted-and-power-limited-geforce-rtx-5090-melts-12v-2x6-cable-and-connector/index.html

[weak walrus]

And the best thing is, that the new 6x2 connector doesn’t solve it

[sharp matrix]

not even limiting the 5090 to 500w can save this garbage connector

look a case of the connectors melting at 500w also...

[sharp matrix]

yep, idk why nvidia said anything was fixed, but i have learned not to trust anything the company says at this point

[weak walrus]

The thing fixed is the melting due to it not being tightly inserted, but this problem still isn’t solved

The biggest issue is, as AMD quit the high-end segment, that NVIDIA has a monopoly and they can do anything they want and still not loose customers

[sharp matrix]

yes that much is clear from all of the sources showing the 5090 connectors melting

[sharp matrix]

yeah thats true, but supporting nvidia's practice is going just make this continue, because it shows nvidia it can sale crap, that has known failures in its design and people will still buy it anyways

[wanton orchid]

would be interesting to see why exactly tmsc decided the high tier interposer tech wasn't worth it

[weak walrus]

Even if we would boycott their cards they don’t care. Gaming is like .1 percent of their revenue and they would just stop making gaming cards altogether

[wanton orchid]

they did stop make good cards
they do cards for bonus

and people buy it

[sharp matrix]

isnt that still being used in servers?

[weak walrus]

What we need is competition from another manufacturer, so they need to fight for their buyers again

[sharp matrix]

HBM from what I can see is these being used in server solutions, ai data centers, etc

[wanton orchid]

9070xt is good enough for most people

[cold tide]

no you need government bodies issueing huge fines unless they fix it

there is no incentive for a corp in that sector to compete on price

its better to engage in cartel, in terms of profits

which is why they all do

so its not going to self correct with more free market

[sharp matrix]

the cards are good from nvidia, but the problem is thats only true for the high-end now

anything lower, nvidai doesnt even give the cards decent vram anymore, making the cards not good buys anymore

[weak walrus]

And even high end cards have melting connectors

[sharp matrix]

yeah

[wanton orchid]

5090 isn't good
it's doing better than 4090 by drawing more power
that's all
with burn issues and completely absurd prices

can't help people buying it

[weak walrus]

The 4090 has them too

As I just personally experienced

[cold tide]

also, anything pulling enough power to melt one wire of the 6x2 is enough to melt the connector.

i think this has now been explained enough...

[wanton orchid]

I've seen people on 3080 and when it was still available that was a good choice

[sharp matrix]

well 50 series is a refresh, the increased power was the only way to increase performance in this case

[wanton orchid]

which means you can basically buy 4090 instead

[sharp matrix]

otherwise the performance would have basically been the same to 40 series...with more fake frames of course because of ai

[weak walrus]

It isn’t even fully the manufacturers fault. We can’t make the transistors smaller anymore, because we are hitting the limitations of the size of an atom, so the only ways to increase performance are either more power, a bigger chip or some AI shit to synthetically increase performance

[cold tide]

mfg is one part avoiding cpu overhead and one part making big bargraphs for investors

[sharp matrix]

and the ai shit doesnt even work either MFG beyond a few very niche cases, isnt a good idea to use

well technically the node can still be advanced further, we havent really hit the absolute limits yet and TSMC is still making more advanced process nodes

60 series for example is reported to be on tsmc 3nm node, so we'll see how improvements that brings

[weak walrus]

We will eventually be able to scale it down to 1.5 or 2nm, but it isn’t physically possible to go beyond that

[sharp matrix]

not to mention GAA transistors havent reached mass production yet, so its obvious even at the transistors, the structure still have more room for advancement

[weak walrus]

The only way to increase rasterization beyond that will be quantum computing

[sharp matrix]

but it'll be interesting once GAA reaches mass production to, what advances will happen past that

[weak walrus]

But even GAA reaches a hard limit at 1nm.

No matter how good we can get an architecture, we can’t surpass the physical limit of an Atom

[jagged snow]

Hey y'all, I'm wondering if you have seen this behavior before

I'm attempting to rename some directories in my truenas smb share but after renaming one or two, I get a folder in use error until I restart windows file explorer.

I'm then able to change the name just fine. Not opening any files.

[sharp matrix]

hmmm i wonder tsmc only has a roadmap to implement nanosheets for GAA at 2nm, which is going to enter production soon?

www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/tsmc-begins-quietly-volume-production-of-2nm-class-chips-first-gaa-transistor-for-tsmc-claims-up-to-15-percent-improvement-at-iso-power

[weak walrus]

I hope this will bring at least a small improvement

And that quantum computer will become cheaper and accessible in the next decade

[sharp matrix]

problem those systems are to sensitive to the environment, making them currently impractical for consumer use

[weak walrus]

Yeah that’s our current issue. If we can fix that Moores Law is finally back

Hopefully in the next decade

[sharp matrix]

idk that science to complex, i cant say how they'll solve that problem if it can be solved

<@&387163995947270144> this

[snow plaza]

how goes the indepented republic of #off-topic-tech

[jagged snow]

Why hello there!

Welcome back

Watching the word burn, as per usual 😄

[sharp matrix]

Which word today

[slow flint]

So I gave this a go
Nothing different I could see between a successful boot without Eth or a failed boot with Eth

Decided to try something
Enabled sshd with systemctl and rebooted my computer with Eth connect
This would normally cause the PC to just black screen
Plan was to ssh in from my partners PC

However after enabling sshd it booted perfectly fine with eth plugged in, tried rebooting again and it still worked
Disabled sshd and rebooted with Eth connect
IT STILL WORKS

Honestly have no idea why enabling sshd and disabling fixed this issue but my PC boots fine with Eth connected now

[wanton orchid]

systemd dependency analysis bug maybe

because it's not a natural dependency system so is tied to whatever logic the implementation decides to perform

[twin dew]

Or some unit that needs something else, but doesn't explicitly specify that dependency.
Before it was starting too soon, now it starts later for one reason or other.
Where it works on most systems because the race usually ends with it being the "loser", but in some rare cases it wins and system fails.

I have had to do many overrides to systemd units for various non-SystemD-project services that don't have enough dependencies to boot up reliably.

In earlier version of Debian Console-Setup for example was running too early on my firewall system almost every boot.

So the console device it was trying to set settings for didn't exist yet...

Or RAS Daemon having two services, where the actual rasdaemon.service realistically should only run after the ras-mc-ctl.service but there still isn't explicit ordering in the stock Debian package, probably not in the upstream either.

Where that ras-mc-ctl.service sets up some of the reporting driver options, and rasdaemon.service uses whatever is in use when it loads IIRC.

At least that SystemD override system allows you to do those modifications without touching the package provided files at all.

So updates aren't a problem.

Fortunately has been getting better with time.

Which looking into those logs to see what units were being started while the system hangs should tell more.
Basically need to take the log of the hung boot, start going through it, and making a list of units that had started to be started, and units that had also completed that startup, to see which services were in that "still starting" status.

As for each service, there will be "systemd" unit journal log entry, first "Starting x.service" and then "Finished starting x.service" for stuff that hangs around, or "Finished x.service" for one-shots", or just "Started x.service" for some that are kind of instant-launch type.
And the other important thing are the "Reached target x.target" lines, to see which "milestones" got completed in the bootup.
With multi-user.target / graphical.target being the final ones.

[pure karma]

Daily dose of 8am baldur yap

[night girder]

Nah.

Its only 13:00.

Just not sure who Baldur is talking too 🤣

[pure karma]

Watching the world fall apart and not really talking about tech anymore

[night girder]

tech too expensive too talk about 🙁

[pure karma]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-dont-do-drugs-gif-21811942

[night girder]

and if it's not tech. It's AI news 😫

[pure karma]

That too

[twin dew]

And I still hate the term "uwu" and variants of it.

No matter how it is used or by who.

[night girder]

it's like hating -> :3

because uwu is

emoticon. kinda.

[twin dew]

*hyrg*

[night girder]

not really a term.

[twin dew]

🤮

One of the finnish "sound effect" texts for vomiting.

And yes, I know.

I still hate it.

[night girder]

Never knew you had such strong feelings against a cute emoticon 🤣

[dire igloo]

@hergarian

[waxen pendant]

I like how chat died do to UwU

[pure karma]

I also think saying uwu is pretty cringe and doesn’t match the intention

[twin dew]

Attempt at forced cuteness.

[night girder]

he be gone for a year or more.

[pure karma]

Hes been gone for ages

Like since 2023 no?

Ok nevermind only 1

I still have some of his memes

Also on some actual tech news for the tech channel i finally got a keyboard base that was half decent and in stock

[waxen pendant]

solid layout. I bought a Kechrone fully customizable KB for a starting point. I got sick of one thing breaking and needing to replace the whole keyboard

[pure karma]

I was looking at keychron for a bit but after like 2 months they still hadn’t stocked anything decent so i just bought a ducky one 3 since there was 3 in stock that showed up

Theres not much choice for full size keyboards sadly

[waxen pendant]

i started with this. as it was on sale. the whole thing comes apart with four screws (hex or allen key) making is simpleto tear apart and clean.

I wanted s TKL but i settled. As you said the market is slim on choice

[night girder]

My next gaming keyboard will have detachable usb C cable.

Because this sucks.

I loop the cable through my monitor (monitors provide like a cable management). But if I want to clean my keyboard. I have to loop it out etc.

Would just be easier to unplug, clean keyboard and plug back in.

[waxen pendant]

thats another reason why i changed. My cat had cancer and was throwing up everywhere. including my keyboard all the time. the ability to disconnect my key board and move it to a safe location was ahigh priority

[night girder]

I fully agree.

And sorry to hear about your cat having cancer 🙁

[pure karma]

This one has that so i can put whatever cable i want

[pure karma]

You got a full keyboard for the price i paid for just a base

[waxen pendant]

I put him down in December the day I got the diagnoses.

[waxen pendant]

i paid less then that. I got it in December with discount codes and such. It came to $130 after shipping

[pure karma]

nice

[waxen pendant]

I had 4 keyboards on my watch list. it was the one that went on sale lol

[pure karma]

yea i paid 180 (250 after tax and all that) for just this base so yea

definitely not a cheap endeavour

but its more affordable than ram atleast

[dire igloo]

Found cooler people to hang out with 😞

[waxen pendant]

absolutley, I still need to buy a pack of replacement switches (while i remember the details of them)

its a nice hobby too. But i do not intend it to become a hobby. I just want it to be functional adn repairable.

[dire igloo]

January 2025, lol
Off by quite a lot

[pure karma]

Admitively i tought 2024 in my head

[dire igloo]

Oh, yeah, right, @twin dew herg says you are Baldurs Gate 3.
Well, more like Baldurs Gay 3

[pure karma]

i wrote 2023 for some reason tho

[night girder]

Right ... and we were the problem and totally not the dude himself 🤣

[pure karma]

honestly herg was just a good source of morale

He was basically the joker

[dire igloo]

That and his political statements were quite based

[edgy hazel]

Mhm

[twin dew]

New person?

[night girder]

🤷‍♂️

probably imposter

[jagged snow]

Account is old

Yeah, it's the same account as old herg

[twin dew]

Yes, that was the point, just joking about the new member status flag.

[snow plaza]

dang noobs

who do they think they are; walking in and waving the heart-leaf-flower-thing around like they own the place

[night girder]

are we suppose to say hi?

[snow plaza]

no

[night girder]

Ok.

[snow plaza]

that's the joke

[edgy hazel]

What the fuck amber what's uuupp

[pure karma]

Whats up was you leaving us all this time

The real question is who snitched that made you come back

[edgy hazel]

I got my men everywhere

[sand saddle]

@snow plaza 4 years ago in our DMs you talked about air humidifiers. I don't know if since then you've seen a 3rd technology besides boiling and vibrating membrane.
Anyways I got it and it's quite effective.

[snow plaza]

i have not heard about this

this isn't a new tech

it's how those cheap desktop "air conditioners" work

[sand saddle]

Mine goes through 3l+ a day, manual says up to 300ml/h
And it has selectable fan speed so it can be quiet.

Way better than those vibrating membranes imo

[snow plaza]

the membranes are great if you have crystal clear water

[sand saddle]

Doubt anyone has that from a tap unless ig all piping and stuff is brand new

[snow plaza]

yeah

the downside is a white dust left everywhere

you can still see it collected in some spots on my PC

not visible from the outside so never cared enough to wipe it off

[sand saddle]

Anyways if you need to buy a new humidifier I'd recommend one of those with evaporation filters.

[snow plaza]

i do not see myself buying a new one any time soon

but on the other hand i tossed my first one when I moved to Seattle because "oh it's always humid there"

yeah my apartment got down to like 20% humidity so i was wrong as fuck

[sand saddle]

Lmao

But the bigger water tank the better, maybe there's even some that could connect straight to piping.
Filling it daily isn't perfect imo.

If it had that toilet mechanism for filling with water it should work perfect.

[pure karma]

guess everyone’s returning today

Welcome back comerads

[sand saddle]

I click on this channel/server(but don't change channels) nearly daily but I don't actually have anything meaningful to say so I click on some other server until I realize no point in being in discord anyways.

[pure karma]

honestly same except usualy i try to come up with something or have something cool to talk about

[sand saddle]

It's hard after I got rid of tiktok and youtube shorts. Need the stimulation, the dopamine.
Unfortunately now I'm starting to see short form content on facebook even though previously I just used it for marketplace.

[pure karma]

like recently i managed to finally type at 100WPM somewhat consistently from like my 80 of like not long ago but i figured no one cared and its nothing all that special especially if you know how to type properly which i dont since i dont feel like learning and i can type fast enough for my needs already

[sand saddle]

Yup pretty much me

[slow flint]

Oh my partner has this keyboard
Very nice

[edgy hazel]

Keyboard

[pure karma]

dang you actually managed to make something white that i still like

did you order those keycaps or did you make them yourself?

[edgy hazel]

Birthday present a friend got me

[cursive fable]

Ok you gurus.... pretty sure my power supply just took a shit...... wondering if 1000W would be overkill or is 850W fine?

Currently running a 9800x3d, 870e chipset, 64gb ram, 4070ti, and 3 NVME 2tb each....

And, if 850 is good, ya'll liking MSI or Corsair?

[pure karma]

definitely go 1000W+ if you got the money for that kinda hardware

[cursive fable]

1k was what was in it... though, I don't do any overclocking either.

[pure karma]

850W is just barely top of the line now so going 850W on something that generally lasts a decade is just a bad investment since its the like one thing you never really need to upgrade

[cursive fable]

Then a corsair it is.. (all that BB has in-stock atm 😭 )

[pure karma]

go 1000W or 1200W from someone reputable like seasonic or EVGA but corsair is ok just heard they were bad value at one point

[cursive fable]

Don't feel like driving an hour to microcenter this late 😒

[pure karma]

definitely dont go MSI since iv never heard anything good about them

[cursive fable]

Appreciate the insights! Thank you.

[pure karma]

i dont love reccomending corsair especially recently since they have been shamelessly scaming people more and more but i cant particularly call there products garbage if at the right price

[cursive fable]

I stopped buying their ram. But have had an RM1000x for a hot minute. And they have one in stock, so just going to go nab that. Least this way I should need to change anything 🤷‍♂️

[pure karma]

still need to change all the cables too

even if its the same model sometimes they change the pinouts so if you only change the unit its gonna explode or short out if they changed anything

[cursive fable]

To change the pinout on the same model would not be smart... any resource of that happening?

Nm, just read about the change between 2021 and 24 models

[pure karma]

its unfortunately a lot more common than it should be sadly

[cursive fable]

Turns out I was good. Aaaaaaaaand I'm back in biz 😛

[snow plaza]

don't think of just OC

if your hardware draws 800 watts, you have an 850 watt PSU but you want to upgrade to a better GPU later that consumes even more power you're going to want a new PSU anyway

if you get the best thing within your budget it's less likely it'll become an issue later

(on that note I should probably look into purchasing an new PSU; I've been using the same 1kw PSU for the last, idk, 8 years?)

[cursive fable]

I am thinking that it still "may" be good, just needs a fan replacement. Before I went and got the new one, the PC would turn on for a split second after removing power completely. Anyhow, It's probably going to be a good long while before I upgrade again. Going from the 4070Ti to a 50 series just isn't worth it for me. I don't game much, and those I do play, the 4070 has been just fine.

[snow plaza]

also should note that the warrantys on PSUs tend to be quite long

[sharp matrix]

Unless you go crazy like getting a 4k 5090, yeah going from 4070ti to 50 series isnt worth it

Well spending over 4k on a gpu is arguably not a wise decision

[cursive fable]

Yeah, was planning on looking into it. Cheers

[twin dew]

So it is ultrasonic humidifier or like?
The actual heating ones don't cause chalk dust issues.

Ah, I read the conversation wrong.

[twin dew]

Ah, additional things to that OpenAI giant memory buy...
Seems the whole deal was just non-binding "Letter of intent" thing...

[twin dew]

Yeah, that was part of some of the original news too...
That it was letters of intents that had been signed with memory wafer makers...

[languid gulch]

god that'd be amazing, if all of them do mass cancellations and ram prices drop to like $8 for a 64gb kit

[twin dew]

There is nothing to cancel.
There is no deal yet.
Just letter of intent to say there might be deal in future.

OpenAI never actually signed to buy anything.

[languid gulch]

but now it's obvious why manufacturers haven't chosen to start building new facilities, if it's all just been bullshit letters of intent

fake announcements with fake money for fake content

[twin dew]

That "Letter of Intent" was in some of the original news, so it must have been in the press releases.
But I did miss it.
That is just "We might buy up to this amount, with probably this now agreed price, if we actually later sign actual buy agreements".

Which doesn't actually bind either party in any way.

[languid gulch]

but drives up prices, wipes out inventory, and makes everyone magically send you money and buy your stocks

[twin dew]

And that Abilene Stargate datacenter expansion plan was just scrapped.

OpenAI & Oracle thing all that memory was to be for.

[languid gulch]

shocker

[sand saddle]

850W is plenty but depends on pricing imo. Also model over brand.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/edit?gid=1078495601#gid=1078495601

I don't care if anyone has arguments against this list. Not everyone can be a full expert on psu's.

[twin dew]

And ranking PSUs for specific parts of their quality by actual objective measurements is doable and straightforward.

[twin dew]

And the question just becomes, after what point are those differences meaningless.

[night girder]

npm packages strike again.

axios-library ...

safedep.io/axios-npm-supply-chain-compromise/

Two compromised versions of axios were published to npm on March 31, 2026: 1.14.1 and 0.30.4, covering both the current 1.x and legacy 0.x branches. Both were published through what appears to be a compromised maintainer account. The attacker made a single change to package.json in each: injecting plain-crypto-js as a new dependency. That package, published less than 24 hours prior, contains an obfuscated postinstall payload that contacts a C2 server and downloads platform-specific second-stage payloads for macOS, Windows, and Linux. No axios source files were modified. The attack bypassed the project’s CI/CD pipeline and SLSA provenance attestations entirely.

I might think it's time to start developing in sandbox environments.

[wanton orchid]

what a surprise (no)

[night girder]

Seems to be getting worse and worse with NPM, good target for hackers and they are aware of it now.

At least 135 systems belonging to the security company's customers alone were **infected **during the exposure window of less than three hours.

[twin dew]

Autoupdates via NPM as soon as new version is available, what could go wrong.

[night girder]

Pipelines.

[dire igloo]

Wha
Why?

[dire igloo]

850W is still very much high-end.
A high quality 850W PSU can handle a 13900k+5090 rig, 9800x3d and 4070ti are far less demanding

[dire igloo]

Don't recommend brands.
Recommend models.

If you want a good product, you should care about the item inside the box, not the logo printed on the outside.

[dire igloo]

Also bogus. They have some great PSUs and some shit PSUs.
If you were to pick a random unit from all of MSI's PSU model, the chance of getting a non-garbage PSU is probably higher than if you did the same with Seasonic

[dire igloo]

I can. Their budget units from like the VS or CV series are generally quite garbage

[dire igloo]

If you save money by getting the second or third best thing, you may need to upgrade sooner, but it can still end up being a better choice overall.

Example:
Instead of buying a 3090 for $2000 in 2021, buy a 3070 Ti for $1000.
When 2025 comes around, the 3090 may still be going strong, but upgrading the 3070 Ti to an $800 RTX 5070 Ti gives you a better GPU with better longevity, longer driver support, newer features and all that shebang while the total cost is still lower.

[dire igloo]

Honestly?
I wouldn't want to take that chance

[twin dew]

https://dev.to/gabrielanhaia/claude-codes-entire-source-code-was-just-leaked-via-npm-source-maps-heres-whats-inside-cjo

Not the AI model, but the tooling for interacting.

[cursive fable]

Honestly what? They were the same PSU.

[twin dew]

Which with one specific EVGA PSU model would have burned your drives.

As they had changed company making that "model" without changing the model code or branding at all, and the pinouts were different.

People got warranty replacement that were different and burned stuff when they didn't switch cables.

When all the markings and codes were exactly the same.

[oblique hamlet]

copyleft infringement machine got leaked

what goes around comes around

[twin dew]

ClaudeBot/1.0; [e-mail] keeps getting robots.txt and sitemap.xml once every 1h 30min...
For site that isn't listed anywhere yet, still being under closed development and just placeholder front page with no contents.

From their IP ranges.

[pure karma]

Free garbage is still good value

[dire igloo]

Uhm.
How much value is a house fire?

https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-psu-explodes-gamers-nexus-power-supply-gif-23202345

[pure karma]

Whatever value you can sell the scraps for

[dire igloo]

They obviously are not, after all you have two units and not just one.
The point is: you don't know what kind of fuckery goes on inside the PSU, so don't take chances and go the safe route

[dire igloo]

Minus the cost of replacing the items that got turned into scraps

[cursive fable]

Actually, they are the same. Same model, same year release, same cable sets. But I get it, good looking out.

[pure karma]

Thats somehow more out your ass than anything iv ever said

Lets say we go by the list golden sent

Msi has 1 dud where as seasonic has 2 duds but seasonic has more than double the amount of units so statistically seasonic wins there

Now is that representative of the real world ehh. But it gets the point across that they are similar

However there is also the clear pattern across all brands that bellow 750W units nearly nothing is good

[dire igloo]

I seriously underestimated the B12 and G12 lineup, I had them in E tier

Also: MSI has two duds
Both E and F need to be considered and you have to check the full list, not the main one

[dire igloo]

You do know that C tier is "good enough", right?
Any semi-budget build will end up with a C tier PSU unless B or A is similarly priced

[pure karma]

Idk i checked iton mobile couldn’t see shit but yea i considered the E’s and F’s only

[pure karma]

Its fine but its not “good” thats the point

like if you can avoid it do it but if you cant it shouldn’t explode

[dire igloo]

It was a joke from German that doesn't really work in English.
In German, there is "dasgleiche" (same design but distinct object) and "dasselbe" (the exact same object)

"Dasselbe Netzteil" means that one PSU does something
"Dasgleiche Netzteil" means that two PSUs of the same model do something

[dire igloo]

"good enough" is by definition good enough.
I wouldn't recommend a C Tier unit to Tinker, sure, but that doesn't mean they're not good

[twin dew]

Where are those two RSY made Seasonic branded PSUs even sold?`
China specials or actually sold elsewhere?

[dire igloo]

That's the wrong logic.
With PSUs you should always go for the least expensive option that meets all necessary criteria - unless a much better option costs only slightly more.

[pure karma]

Thats literally what i said in different words

[dire igloo]

PCPP pricing history says: even US merchants have it, tho stock is spotty
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Rxprxr/

[dire igloo]

It really isn't. It's a semantics/language thing, you said it's not good, I say it is.
It's not winning any prizes and its biggest asset is low price, but it doesn't mean it's not a good PSU.
It'll do a perfectly good job, depending on the wattage even with some comparably high end hardware

I wouldn't shy away from running a 9800x3d+9070xt rig on a 750W TT BM2

[twin dew]

Lot of officially china only crap being sold on any US site that allows for third party listings.

[dire igloo]

Granted, I wouldn't put a TT BM2 in a new build with those components, but if I had one lying around, absolutely

[dire igloo]

Does B&H have third party listings?

[twin dew]

No idea.

[dire igloo]

It's been gone from Geizhals since like 2023 it seems

The sheet does have some historical data too tbf

[twin dew]

That A12 would be the more "modern", even cheaper take.

Of that S12III

[bronze jasper]

You shouldn't argue with people giving you good advice. Try assuming that someone is speaking to you in good faith instead of immediately assuming someone is lying out of their ass to you. It's needlessly hostile

[pure karma]

If it was in good faith this would have ended at picking models over brands

[pure karma]

i should specify since clearly it never came through in translation but fine and good enough are treated the same here there equal in meaning

[dire igloo]

Honestly? That snarky remark wasn't made in good faith, at least not entirely.
it was an exaggeration aimed to drive home a point and it backfired

[dire igloo]

In the sense of "barely clears the bar" or in the sense of "has everything you need, but nothing more"?
The connotation is quite different even if they are both technically the same statement

[jagged snow]

Man
Windows nuked my drivers again

This is getting really frustrating, it's almost monthly

[pure karma]

the second. gets the job done but isent anything special or "above average" you could say

[pure karma]

is it just your GPU drivers? or many of them?

cause i have the same thing but its only my GPU drivers corupting

[jagged snow]

Gpu mostly, has occasionally done it to chipset & bluetooth

[olive yarrow]

Which is better: amd gpu's or nvidia gpu's?

[pure karma]

with that logic none of them

with an infinite budget its Nvidia if you have a limited budget you have to spend the time to figure it out based on how much you want to spend and what you need just like everything else in life

[olive yarrow]

so basically on a budget amd has a better price to performance, but if you have the money get a high end nvidia card which outperforms more budget amd cards.

[pure karma]

if you can afford a 5090 get that, if you cant, figure it out thats basically the curent market

[olive yarrow]

yeah, thats what I meant.

[pure karma]

Amd and nvidia have esentially been tied or trading spots with everything else since the pandemic so anything bellow that isent just one or the other

[olive yarrow]

yeah, I mean it depends on the current price and if you can find deals. Most amd gpu's have an nvidia equivalent

[dire igloo]

Depends on usecase

[pure karma]

well yea the price is everything in the end

[dire igloo]

I'd rather not use AMD for AI training - plus, nobody mentioned Intel

[pure karma]

well intel got buried in price to performance in the end no?

[olive yarrow]

yes, personally I care more about fps per dollar, and cheaper cards then ray tracing or dlss, so I would prefer amd in most situations. But if I wanted a pc that can play games at outstanding graphical levels, then I'd go with nvidia.

[olive yarrow]

personally I think intel gpu's are a joke, no offense

[pure karma]

the B580 is basically the new 1080Ti in therms of reliability so there not really a joke

there just not competing with the top

[olive yarrow]

they just don't compare with amd competitors in performance or price.

[dire igloo]

In the low end, they're still very much a viable option even if only thete

[olive yarrow]

I guess for lower end cards, but for most mid to high end pc's they don't compete

I mean the market right now is a mess so trying to build a high end am5 pc is crazy unless you have a crazy budget

[dire igloo]

Still: very much bogus.
Variance between games is quite significant and RDNA4 has brought a lot of improvements to RT.

Plus: a free GPU has infinite fps per dollar.

[pure karma]

if intel made there own framgen actually available on stuff people were playing it would have been a lot more competitive

since it gets basically 40FPS on everything people wanted 60FPS on so it was a huge blunder

[dire igloo]

I was talking about other usecases like machine learning, video editing, 3d rendering, etc

[dire igloo]

For ML training?
CUDA is absolutely shitting on AMD for that

[pure karma]

you can remove intel from that entirely since the encoding on my B580 dosent even work at all if the card is under load

[dire igloo]

That might be PBKAC tho

[pure karma]

whatever it is to the average end user its a problem that dosent exist on the competition and the fault dosent matter

[olive yarrow]

I find it funny that a lot of pc builders on the internet promote amd cards for better price to performance, but most use nvidia. I mean nvidia is better for steaming, so I guess that makes sense

[dire igloo]

Also eeeeeeh since RDNA4 encoder got a big bump

Nvidia is just a lot more versatile for all kinds of non-gaming loads

[olive yarrow]

I agree

[pure karma]

honestly i think a lot of publicity was done towards AMD by creators more in a attempt to tank NVIDIA more than actually encourage AMD for a while

[dire igloo]

Plus they had the better track record with drivers - no longer the case tho

[olive yarrow]

but for a more average user amd would be a better choice

[dire igloo]

ahem, UBM meltdowns, ahem

[olive yarrow]

it's possible

[pure karma]

creators tried to do what they did with CPU's to break the intel domination but with GPU's and it hasent really worked

[olive yarrow]

wait are you saying intel cpu's are better then amd cpu's?

[dire igloo]

Depends on what you consider "average"

Average gamer doesn't buy a custom PC

[olive yarrow]

like a mid range pc

[olive yarrow]

I mean a more average pc builder-- if that makes sense

[dire igloo]

Once again: it depends

[olive yarrow]

would you say amd cpu's are better for gaming?

[dire igloo]

What is "mid range"?
And what is the "average" usage of such a PC?

[dire igloo]

Once again: it depends.
What games, what resolution, what settings, what GPU, what other usecases, etc?

[olive yarrow]

like popular games that are not too demanding, but most people play

[pure karma]

for a long time yea by a degree that if you bought a AMD cpu you were just wasting your money

but recently AMD actually cought up and stopped making shit

[dire igloo]

Bulldozer moment

[pure karma]

which in turn has forced intel to make better products and in turn gives a net positive for everyone

[dire igloo]

This is incredibly vague and you're quite a bit off in terms of what most gamers actually want/need

[pure karma]

unfortunately this bouncing hasent been quite as effective for GPU's but AMD has made a incredible effort but people just arent buying it

[dire igloo]

Prebuilds

[pure karma]

truth is if you make a product thats 1% better you made a better product but no one will jump on the new kid over 1%

[dire igloo]

Oh also laptop CPUs make up a huge portion of that graph

Understand the data

[pure karma]

amd still makes laptop chips

granted most the ones iv seen have been 2 core turds that cant do anything but there still competing in the space so it counts

[dire igloo]

There are a lot of Ryzen based laptops too

[pure karma]

those are ryzen based

[dire igloo]

Intel just has a far far bigger share

[pure karma]

there still making ryzen core duos in 2026 because selling e waste in the laptop space still isent criticized

the same way price to performance in monitors dosent exist

[dire igloo]

It's not ewaste, it's just cheap as fuck so they can sell $400 laptops

[dire igloo]

Huh? Wdym?

[pure karma]

iv never seen someone diss a monitor becasue its too expensive

[dire igloo]

Apple pro display?!?!

[pure karma]

all these monitor reviews and unboxing all talk the spec sheet but nothing about price and they dont ever criticise it if its brought up

[dire igloo]

Tho that was mainly the $1000 stand

[dire igloo]

Because pricing is too volatile to be a serious consideration.
Plus, a good monitor review is 75% data and 25% analysis

So there really isn't any need for price specific judgment because you can just infer from the data

[dire igloo]

540Hz TN for esports - good but not as good as OLED and too expensive

[night girder]

never? or did I miss sarcasm? 😅

[pure karma]

literally never not even the overpriced apple displays

theres usually a few comenters or people complaining but its never reviewers or unboxers

[dire igloo]

Then you either don't know how reviewers voice complains or your expectations grossly mismatch reality

[languid gulch]

on my last monitor hunt the difference between a VA & IPS version of the one i was looking at was over $200 for the IPS, which was 50% of the total cost. that was just insane to me

my opinion is that all current gen monitors are overpriced crap, and you can get one 2/3 gens old that'll outrun basically all but the 4090/5090

[twin dew]

As completely illegal content for this channel, my ship in The Last Caretaker is Finnished:

Ok, not going to run that skin, it is hideous 😆

[twin dew]

But should be finalized for all the other stuff for this game version.

[humble isle]

except that vulkan is cross platform and not locked to windows and is just better

[twin dew]

MacOS doesn't support Vulkan, Xbox doesn't support Vulkan, Playstation doesn't support Vulkan.
Windows does for most part but that is purely from the GPU makers, not MS. Linux does, Switch does.

Android does now, but hasn't for long.

I don't know how many of current gen Android devices have Vulkan supporting GPU drivers, as that is up to the chip makers again.

And for Satisfactory, for the Xbox Series S/X version, DX12 version needs to be kept on anyways.
And in turn Satisfactory isn't supported on any Vulkan native platform, including SteamDeck and Linux in general.

But I'm off to grocery store ->

[wanton orchid]

play uses what then ?

Dx12

[twin dew]

Sonys own two APIs, one high-level like OpenGL and DX11, one low-level like Vulkan and DX12.

Also, need to note that it is only this year that Vulkan reached feature parity with DX12, at least from VLK3D dev eyes.
They had to spearhead several new Vulkan extensions over the years to allow direct porting of DX12 games, without lot of overhead from reimplementing stuff in software that DX12 supported and games used, but Vulkan didn't.

Game dev friendly stuff, not just things where same thing was done differently.

[wanton orchid]

what I would be pissed at is some stuff done differently at software level, like OpenGL often does
i.e dx12 would do it at software assisted layer too (things like auto layer format conversions etc)

but if Vulkan decided to create extensions then I suppose it really have an hardware path

what I seen missing most vs dx12 is buffer/texture memory manipulation capabilities
Vulkan had efforts in allowing cross api talk

[twin dew]

OpenGL was mess of vendor specific extensions because the standards body moved so slowly.

Need to remember that Khronos group is formed by ton of different companies, with different priorities etc.

[wanton orchid]

things like dma mapped looking glass driver hack in dx12 could be made as efficiently in Vulkan now ?

(it basically stream the monitor buffer onto a dma mapped texture)

[twin dew]

Don't remember any of the specifics. Just that each time it took year+ from start to finalization as extension spec.

And that that latest whatever was to give up to 50% boost in some games for Nvidia GPUs for one reason or another.

IIRC

[wanton orchid]

latest steam survey data is sad

maybe it's biased for all people not saying yes

but I don't get why one would go from amd to Nvidia in recent years
other than getting huge promotion
which is not common

[warm sun]

Hardware is sad, software is nice, im happy that more pepole are discovering other OSes out of windows

[pure karma]

yay we also get to have the fake ping wohoo april fools is awesome

[pure karma]

probably cause i only got it today

like an hour ago

[dire igloo]

1. Don't look at model A vs model B. If you want to get a proper overview of the market, you have to go by product category, not singular items.
2. I disagree with the overpriced crap, many current gen monitors are actually priced quite well.

Overall: just use a smart approach.
Set bare minimum filters, sort by price ascending, skip everything that's known bad or unreviewed.
Then compare the three or four least expensive options - make sure to not rely on specsheets or customer reviews, but to look at proper third party tests.

[warm sun]

Yo why the hell is satisfactory automaticaly draging as soon as i put my mouse next to my task bar wtg

wth*

[waxen pendant]

this is on mint:?

[warm sun]

yeah

proly just need a restart and fixed

[waxen pendant]

ive not had that issue. But i also havent ran satifactory on mint yet

[verbal raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgvJvdPDGgs peak

[modern rivet]

Iv'e been waiting for chess 2. all my life.

[pure karma]

it is way too early for this april fools shit

[verbal raft]

its literally april fools rn

[pure karma]

yes but its 11AM and im still eepy

[waxen pendant]

me too

[soft bloom]

Artemis actually going to send humans around the moon?

[waxen pendant]

we shall see. next window is 4 weeks away. ATM all signs are go. but there is 1000s of checks to do still

[warm sun]

Does anybody know where are my save files on linux?

[warm sun]

yeah, for me today it will be at 1AM

[soft bloom]

btw, what'sthe justification for sending humans around the moon?

I mean, instead of just automated something

[waxen pendant]

small steps to prove that it it can be done safetly.

[soft bloom]

aaand how is it different from Apollo missions?

[twin dew]

Tested less.

[waxen pendant]

completely different systems and over 50 years of change

[soft bloom]

well, we can hope that they return safely

[waxen pendant]

there has been many moon crashes since as well. The moon has lumpy gravity. most of the Science and best locations are at the moons poles. which have irregular gravity.

[twin dew]

As in this clusterfuck has heatshield that we don't know will actually work properly.
And life support that has never run on orbit.
Boosters that are way past their original use time, both from manufacturing, and from stacking...

On the previous unmanned return, the heatshield was shedding pieces because of gas buildup inside it from the heat.
Not working as modeled.
But as actually fixing the issues would have taken too long and cost too much, this flight still uses the exact same heatshield type, just with altered entry trajectory.

NASA decided to use same heatshield material as Apollo.
Then altered its structure to leave out reinforcing honeycomb to ease manufacturing.
And then missed the Apollo era documentation that said that without that honeycomb the stuff hat habit of that type of spalling...

[soft bloom]

I hope it wasn't because somebody sued llm yo search through docs

[twin dew]

Don't know, just that someone external found the test docs from Apollo era in public domain...

That showed that that material had habit of spalling when it was being characterized for Apollo use in ground tests when just as pure lump without something to reinforced it like that honeycomb mesh that Apollo used.

NASA took that heritage material, as it was "known quality" instead of newer, lighter materials.
Then did bunch of changes that they didn't test until that Artemis 1 return.

[wanton orchid]

I mean if the beta tester arent happy you patch it next month
oh wait..

[twin dew]

Even the original pre-Artemis heatshield boilerplate test was with that old style honeycomb in place, but as making that heatshield was so labor intensive, NASA decided to go to from monolithic, honeycomb-reinforced heatshield to modular heatshield made of just pure lumps of the stuff.

Completely invalidating any data from that return from space heatshield test.

Those boosters officially have use life of 5 years from manufacturing, 1 year from start of stacking.
Artemis II boosters started stacking in November 2024 and completed that in February 2025.

And last one was cast in July 2019.

No idea when first finished being cast.

[jagged snow]

Iiirc nearly 10 years ago

[twin dew]

The first set was for Artemis I, and launched at around 6 years age, 1.5 years stacked.

I wouldn't expect there be more than 6 months age difference in the batch for Artemis II, but cannot know.

[pure karma]

so basically no safety measures have been followed

[pure karma]

it would seem the 5070 single handily caried presumably cause of prebuilts

its at 9.12% OF ALL USERS

using the 5070

[full tide]

Who ghosted ping me

[waxen pendant]

@full tide have you though about updating your rig?

the 9648 would do you well

[full tide]

I use i7k ryzeb 7800x3d

[waxen pendant]

ya this is better though

[full tide]

Yes memory at 32gb

And 5080ti I have

[full tide]

That’s why I wanted to see if the devs can do something about it

The game might have to be better etc etc

[dire igloo]

i7k?

[full tide]

Yes

[dire igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/jamartag-certeza-gif-24820038

[full tide]

I am not near my pc

[dire igloo]

What's that even mean?

[full tide]

The cpu

[dire igloo]

Nono, I mean the term "i7k" specifically

I've never heard that in my life

[full tide]

Oh okay

[waxen pendant]

i7 is a intel designation not AMD lol thats why i assumed you posted the gif

[pure karma]

ryzeb should be AMD's next branding

yea bro i got a Ryzeb IV

[waxen pendant]

its better then anything they will ever come up with

[dire igloo]

The gif was in response to the 5080 Ti

And I know that i7 is Intel naming, but they don't use i7k either

[dire igloo]

VI
VII

[pure karma]

GN used I7KPS for the new intel plus CPU's

making the iteration count even higher

[full tide]

I anit at my pc

[sour ivy]

yo chat, anyone else watching Artemis II live?

[waxen pendant]

no, Im not going to that location. and watching it at home is dull

but im excited non the less

[sour ivy]

Well, I’m halfway across the world from the launchpad lol, still watching tho

[deft sinew]

Three hours left hype

[waxen pendant]

Glad you are enjoying it ^_^

Real talk, I'm excited for what this CAN represent. Depressed that I know it will eventaully be destroyed by capitalism

[sour ivy]

I’m looking at it from the position of my industry and the joy it brings with it more than anything

[deft sinew]

Me personally I think space is cool

[sour ivy]

it is! :D

[waxen pendant]

If you havent yet. I suggest checking out universe today, Its a completely free space news site. it even uses the creative commons license so anyone can use there content

[deft sinew]

I love that site:)

[night girder]

Man, these commercial during live is tiny bit weird.

Ah, ok got the correct broadcast now I think.

[soft bloom]

how is YT holding up qith 1.7M viewers?

[pure karma]

2.2M for me

[soft bloom]

well, now it is

what was the record for concurrent viewers on same stream?

[pure karma]

i have no idea last time i gave a shit i think it was lazarbeam that had the record with 600K

theres more than 4M viewers across all the diffrent streams i think

[pure karma]

yea pulling off numbers like that after a week of downtime and issues really goes to show how resilient youtube is

[twin dew]

What week of downtime or issues?

[soft bloom]

So, toilet problems...

In orbit
Out of all thing

Waiting to see those photos of moon, and earth, and space

No more "stars are too dark" please

[twin dew]

Well, Orion is the third US space thing to even have a toilet.
After ISS and Crew Dragon.
Starliner doesn't have toilet, Shuttle didn't have toilet, etc.

Still bad that they have valve they cannot open.
Or at least had.

[night girder]

What?

They fixed the toilet.

It turned on, then showed error code and shut off.

[twin dew]

Yeah, I'm not up to date.
Just that at first didn't work and some specific valve didn't open.

[night girder]

Then they opened the toilet and found problem with on of the fans. Which they were fixing.

No. Valve closed of its own.

Which they considdered normal because how violent launching a spacerocket is.

But valve is different "issue" than toilet, it for the 4 water tanks.

Last I heard, they don't see the valve as a issue but anamoly that is to be expected.

[twin dew]

Ok, I got them mixed up as they were mentioned at same time, but that was when one astronaut was on work with the toilet enabling and second one was to fill backup water bags.

[night girder]

Could be. I just heard it when they arrived in orbit. They were checking systems and that was 2 out of 3 problems.

Later confirmed in the interview with NASA highlords

They also had a few problems during launch. Lost contact with the crew after launch too.
It's just problem mitigation as they go 😄

www.wionews.com/photos/artemis-ii-problems-everything-that-went-wrong-before-and-after-launch-and-how-nasa-fixed-it-1775106182434/1775106182438

good overview.

NASA Associate Administrator Amit Kshatriya said they were dealing with a "controller issue" with the toilet. Mission specialist Christina Koch had to troubleshoot the issue and did so successfully. "Happy to report that the toilet is go for use," mission control said. "We do recommend letting the system get to operating speed before donating fluid".

[twin dew]

Link didn't work, error then redirect to front page.

[night girder]

works here 😄 Might be blocked.

[twin dew]

Worked second time...

So they have something that prevents linking straight in.

Once I had loaded the front page once, it allowed using the direct link.

[night girder]

"The toilet fan is reported to be jammed," NASA spokesperson Gary Jordan said during live mission commentary.

So it was some sort of fan in the toilet that wasn't cleared.

[twin dew]

There was also that vacuum pump to remove urine wasn't working, needed to be primed in the end with water and forced running.

When I checked some actual technical spaceflight sites about the issue.

First something more general.
Then allowed for poop but not urine.
Then that fluid extraction system was primed to work and it was declared fully operational.

[night girder]

I could have swear they were also talkinga bout bitflips yesterday.

That it didn't happen, but the system got hit way more with atoms?.

[twin dew]

I'll comment, watching the old stream at 1.5x speed, currently at the post launch news conference.

[night girder]

Yeah, it was last night at 3-4 am. Was a bit tired. But the interview panel after launch talked about it. "24x times higher than normal, but no bit flips detected."

found the clip

[visual tree]

Our HR department used AI to generate a follow-up text for yearly performance review online meeting and sent it to all managers....

And they wonder why everyone hates HR 🤣

[night girder]

Yeah, so the onboard fault detection cleaned up the bitflips it seems.

Also funny.

Took that screenshot yestyerday during launch. Look at the tablet

Entering pincode at the worst moment.

[pure karma]

you would think they would have though something like that through but no

[night girder]

I even saw someone in the commando center enter their password while the stream was on.
They don't know when they are being streamed, but it happened during the swap of personel.

So what's next? They sleeping again right.

www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/artemis-ii-overview-timeline-public-final.pdf

dashboard: www.nasa.gov/missions/artemis-ii/arow/

[twin dew]

TLI go / no-go decision, crew wake-up, morning stuff behind closed cameras and muted mics.
Then that TLI configuration, then that green/purple block, and then that TLI.

[night girder]

I know (most is in schedule I posted). Just lost track of where we are atm

Had to go help someone and couldn't follow stream 🤣

The dashboard is pretty cool btw.

Can swap to different views.

If you want to know where it is atm in the trajectory.

Also weird that it's approached from beneath the moon trajectory.

[twin dew]

They want to take pics of area around south pole.

[night girder]

That explains it.

[twin dew]

And it doesn't matter how you get sling from Moon as long as it results in getting back.
Also often doing that will end up using less fuel, as planes of earth and moon aren't the same, and the capsule wasn't launched into equatorial orbit around earth either.

[night girder]

Depends on the mission I guess? I can think of a few reasons it does matter how you get sling back from the moon to earth, depending on mission goals.

But if you take topview. You see how they get back. Or that the trajectory is known.

Right part of trajectory in the image is ride towards moon. Left part of trajectory is ride to earth.

[twin dew]

Yeah, it matters, but point is that you can select a lot for both entry and exit for same time.
Depending what you want to do.

[twin dew]

Earth exit ties to moon entry, that ties to moon exit, that ties to earth entry and so on.
Lot of options at each moment, but what exact combinations lead back to earth change constantly.

[night girder]

well... if you click the grey dots in the blue trajectory.

You can read what stage is doing what. That's how I knew what leg of trajectory is going towards the moon, and which leg comes back.

Man, the wake up songs the astronauts picked 🤣

[pure karma]

Yall are way too invested in this 😂

[waxen pendant]

better then investing in meth...... well more loegal anyways

[night girder]

nah. you all aren't invested enough from my perspectiove 🤣

[jagged snow]

Why not be excited about it?

It's pretty historic

[night girder]

tiktok generation

it isn't a short video of 10 seconds 🤣

[waxen pendant]

Guess I should watch this coverage of the launch yesterday

#off-topic-media message

[night girder]

@twin dew Do you know why temperature control is done by ground?

Because they asked mission control to raise temperature. And now during debrief ground is asking if they like the temperature up there.

[bronze jasper]

probably not whole atoms. cosmic rays are usuall just particles iirc

[night girder]

yeah, sorry. I wanted to say radiation first, but wasn't so sure if that was 100% correct term for it.

[bronze jasper]

could you imagin if we were just getting bombarded by atoms all the time?

the kinetic forces would be astonishing

the atmosphere would probably boil

coronal mass ejections i suppose are atoms, since theyr'e rail gunned matter

i dont think they'd launch if a CME was heading this way

[night girder]

euhm?

[bronze jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/solar-flare-cme-phenomenal-sun-burst-hot-gif-16631994

when the suns magnetic dynamo just goes "Hyeah!" and flings a ton of matter out

[night girder]

universemagazine.com/en/solar-flare-demands-close-monitoring-of-space-weather-ahead-of-the-artemis-2-launch/

I think they were monitoring the solar flare that happened on 30 march.

[bronze jasper]

yeah solar weather would be pretty important for that journey. that's well outside the earth's protections

the original apollo missions had no idea while they were going, but the sun wasn't as active then

lucky

[night girder]

yeah ...

[bronze jasper]

they knew solar weather happened, but really had no forecasting ability

[night girder]

I think NASA noted a correlation between space traveling and Alzheimer.

In addition to the risk of cancer, there is concern that prolonged exposure of astronauts to deep space radiation will lead to degenerative changes in different organ systems, including the brain. Indeed we previously demonstrated that space radiation impaired cognitive performance and exacerbated Alzheimer's disease (AD) pathology in a widely used mouse model of AD
source; osdr.nasa.gov/bio/repo/data/experiments/OS-862

[bronze jasper]

interesting. yeah deep space travel i think will warrant the development of magnetic shields

[night girder]

Yeah, I think even science agrees on that.

Because if we travel faster with spaceships, we get hit by more radiation rapidely. So I think the consensus is, we need protection.

[bronze jasper]

unless we go through the warp (40k moment)

[night girder]

We had little talk about that yesterday in off-topic-general 😄

[bronze jasper]

or if we just get high on spice and fold our way there

i'm all about space folding its so cool functionally

[night girder]

Alcubierre metric?

[bronze jasper]

but like! okay! startrek discovery!

they did point to point travel.. but it wasn't foldiing it was subspace myocelium for some reason, which is just nonsense exposition

space folding is where instead of traavlling through spae, you calculate another path , a wormhole, into space that is folded in a different dimension. that's what DUNE ftl is

then you just hop through the hole

[night girder]

Yeah, the paper.

you bend a paper. and you go from top to bottom.

like a shortcut. Veratisium showed it like that I believe.

[bronze jasper]

the alcubierre drive is a warp engine

[night girder]

Yeah, that one.

condensews space in front of the spacehsip.

and expands space in the back of the spacehship.

It fits Einstein equation, but does need negative energy.

[bronze jasper]

"negative"

[night girder]

And Quantum Mechanics doesn't fit in the Alcubierre theory.

The proposed mechanism of the Alcubierre drive implies a negative energy density and therefore requires exotic matter or manipulation of dark energy.[4]

[bronze jasper]

yeah its a neat equation but i thiunk to complete it and engineer it, something more unified will be needed

[night girder]

that's how it's described on wikipedia, "negative". Read some of it yesterday since it was new topic to me 🙂

[bronze jasper]

thing is though, something is the great filter. otherwise there should be lots of FTL civilizations out there to learn from

[night girder]

Yeah, Brian Cox was talking about the great filter a few weeks ago.

[bronze jasper]

maybe it's like event horizon. anyone who does fold space has to go through hell. 40k and event horizon sort of fit together that way

[night girder]

Or, we are just lucky. And this planet is unique.

[bronze jasper]

not yet. we're still down in our gravity well

we could just still be a blip

[night girder]

Yeah,but possible the only blip ever.

[bronze jasper]

the only blip ever sounds like a good song or poem

[night girder]

Maybe if we go exctinct, we might be the last "intelligent" lifeform the universe had. Or not.

[bronze jasper]

or movie yeh i'll watch the movie version

that one media, the 3 body problem, the show hasn't reached the part yet but it gets into why the universe is so dark. ||because a dark forest at night is full of predators||

[night girder]

Also, Brian said we just go so lucky our planet was stable long enough (million of years) for life to form. And that some scientist think, that space is so violent, no planet has the chance to get to the point we are. Etc. Really fascinating stuff.

[bronze jasper]

jupiter and saturn do a good job keeping us stable. vacuumin up all the oblonging orbit asteroids

[night girder]

For example.

And the position of the sun is almost perfect, maybe not perfect, but in the position to sustain life.

And that earth survived crashes with other planets. Like the theory how the moon is actually a leftover from Theia that crashed with earth at some point.

And then we have the The Van Allen belt. That protects us kinda against space radiation.

[bronze jasper]

we're also pretty far away from the galactic plane right now. since the sol system is heading up and away from the milky way disc. It's predicted that we're on a merry go round style orbit, going up and down through the plane as we go around the outter edge of the galaxy.

Debris is more common down near the plane. Comets and asteroids from outside. the last time we were crossing the densest part was when there were a bunch of extinction events. since then we've cleared the debris and it's been stable for a while.

[night girder]

Yeah, I heard that also, that we are in the "quiet" part of space.

[bronze jasper]

all we can see is that we are moving up from the plane. so we derive a sin wave on that i think

[night girder]

And that in general, space is very violent. Exploding stars, radiation, etc etc.

I am going to be honest with you.

I once was interested in the topic "Can we locate the origin (pin point it) of the big bang" and I know the answer was "no" but the reason why it was no went beyond me at that moment.

[bronze jasper]

i like that we've discovered super massive black holes and that they're probably the heart of spiral galaxies like a star drives a solar system.

sagitarius A IS the great sun the mayans were right 😮

[night girder]

And one of the reason was because we only see it from our plane and that makes it hard to find origin.

[night girder]

Every solar system has a black hole.

[bronze jasper]

about one thing anyways. their 100 day grow season was kinda dumb.

[bronze jasper]

that'd be wild

[night girder]

Ah sorry. It's a theory.

"primordial black holes"

[bronze jasper]

no i mean, solar system is the sun and planets. i think you mean galaxy

[night girder]

Yeah, you right. Oops.

[bronze jasper]

i wonder about andromeda, cause it's just a big puff galaxy or whatever.. right?

Shit. They totally have a supermassive black hole too and it's way bigger than ours

they're totally gonna eat us when they crash into the milky way

[night girder]

If they keep growing yes, since their gravitational pull also increases with size.

[bronze jasper]

no it's like, its headed right for us https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda–Milky_Way_collision

[dire igloo]

Gravity go nyooom

Galaxies go boom

[night girder]

We gotta get the fuck out of here eventually 🤣

If we make it that far.

[bronze jasper]

we'll jump ship into the new andromilkyway

[dire igloo]

What's the next closest thing we could go to?

[night girder]

By then?

If space keeps expanding like they also think ...

we kinda fucked. I guess other dimensions? If that's a thing ...

Or a giant artificial planet that we have like control over. Or a giant, giaaaaaant spaceship that we can steer clear of dangerous stuff.

[dire igloo]

Let's just say rn then
Closest planet we could land on that isn't in the milkyway or andromeda

[bronze jasper]

cosmic expansion probably means we'll never meaningfully leave our galaxy

not without space folding

[night girder]

And near to our galaxy is like 2.5 million light-years for Andromeda

[night girder]

But isn't it weird? That while scientist believe space expands. A gallaxy is on the way to collide with our galaxy? It it because of gravitional pull?

[bronze jasper]

well space isn't expanding faster than the force of gravity yet

[night girder]

Because I would think that other galaxies would move away from us, eventually at speeds faster than light.

[night girder]

That is true.

[bronze jasper]

the weird part is that expansion is accelerating

[night girder]

Yeah. Eventually we can't see anything anymore.

Because we move faster than light too, and no light will ever reach us.

unless there is a limit to the expansion, which is also a theory.

[bronze jasper]

and then it becomes faster than the atomic forces, strong force an all those.

and then heat death

[night girder]

Almost as if space has built in fail mechanics to make sure to kill everything. Eventually.

[bronze jasper]

yeah it could be like a merry go round. like, we're accelerating right now.. but could slow at some point

[night girder]

I kid you not, some believe it might reverse back into one giant mass.

And that the big bang is my cyclic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Crunch

[bronze jasper]

i like the cyclic theory that states it expands into a uniform energy field and then another big bang happens sponteneously

[night girder]

Yeah, big crunch 😄

[bronze jasper]

no big crunch is diff. like . this one's more about us being a blip in a larger energy field greater than the universe. infinite field of energy that just exists, and our universe sorta pops into existence within it, then spreads out evenly into it

[night girder]

It's not that far fetched. We see a lot of cycle patterns when we observe nature etc. Day, night. The seasons. How water forms clouds, leading to rain etc. Planets in orbit.

[night girder]

Oh, so the universe is part of something bigger?

[bronze jasper]

but not like a disney multiverse. just, other spontaneous explosions of energy in new densities, all over the field.

or vibrations or whatever. density is weird since it describes space which is only created in the universe

and i guess vibrations have to od with time

somethings going on and its weird i know that

#off-topic-media message brian cox on the topic

[night girder]

Will give it a watch if I don't forget.

Just too hooked to artemis II livestream atm 🤣

[snow plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/space-core-portal2-portal-spacecore-gif-8264616

[edgy hazel]

You aint banging out the tunes like me

[bronze jasper]

live stream just mentioned a rad hit

[night girder]

yes

go pro might died to it 🤣

They are having issues with one of the go pros from national geographic.

[bronze jasper]

exciting

[night girder]

better than the toilet issue they had.

[pure karma]

gopros barely work on earth the fact there working at all up there is incredible

[night girder]

we will see if the replacement does the trick.

[snow plaza]

that is a super pretty record

i love green :3

[edgy hazel]

My favorite looking one atm

[snow plaza]

best bmth album

[pure karma]

i never understood the apeal of records but i have to admit the concept and way they work is quite creative

[bronze jasper]

a big part of record collecting these days is that because of old artist protection laws that were created during that era, they get more money for those sales. So people will buy them for collecting to support them. its like merch now

[pure karma]

unrelated to all the space stuff but i really liked the new JTC series that finished up that really exposed that throwing a X3D CPU in a build really dosent automatically make it good

in the end the 7800X3D system was down 50% from the other 2 systems

and that was in gaming so it was in the best case scenario

[night girder]

and they are off to the moon

[jagged snow]

What does automatically make it good? Because all else being equal an x3d chip is pretty much just going to be faster for gaming

[pure karma]

if the rest isent ballenced it dosent magically shoot the numbers up like people always say

i think the main blunder was loosing out on a 9070XT over it and being stuck with a 9060XT but still half the framerate in gaming was not what i was expecting

id recomend watching the 2 videos its definitely worth the watch