off-topic-tech

[rocky yarrow]

They're completely out of stock on Steam Decks in various markets at the moment, apparently, due to hardware shortages

I wonder if this round of Steam Machines will fare any better in the long run than the first ones

[fickle gust]

What's wild is I plan a PC upgrade soon

And my ram kit is 800-1000$

God I need more than 32gb tho at least 48gb

[pure karma]

would any of yall even buy the steam machine?

cause for me its a hard no

[night girder]

not me, but doesn't mean it couldn't be an option for some.

[rocky yarrow]

Not me, but I'm also not really in their target market

[fickle gust]

Me no but I'm picky ASF for hardware

I want OLED and 4k or I don't really care

[pure karma]

TV console style pc when you already have a pc is a total waste in my eyes

[fickle gust]

OLED is really the only viable display type tbh

[night girder]

I just view it as another prebuilt 🙈

[fickle gust]

For me

[fickle gust]

More like a switch for PC

[pure karma]

thats why the only console i still have is the switch since its portable and actualyl worth owning even if nitendo is terible atleast they made somethign worth owning for a while

[fickle gust]

I mean one good thing is u can play satisfactory on the go

Only reason I'd get it tho

[pure karma]

i feel like the steem frame will be a similar story

too expensive to be worth buying as a regualr person

[fickle gust]

Man if only the steam VR was oled

[pure karma]

based on how darn expensive steams curent headset is

(1300$ for context)

[fickle gust]

Steam VR not being OLED made my choice easy tho pimax 8k super

[rocky yarrow]

I do find it interesting how invested Valve continues to be in VR; I wonder what the finances for that are actually like

[night girder]

I think VR has it's community.

[rocky yarrow]

Still seems awfully niche to me, but then I don't have access to their sales figures or budget sheets

[pure karma]

VR has potential just for me its the lack of games

[fickle gust]

Well there's satisfactory in vr

Recently star citizen got VR

Also basically any ue5 game has vr

[pure karma]

i dont see enough value in VR to pay for games since the playtimes are so low so it takes a much lower price to pull me in

[fickle gust]

Cyberpunk had VR

[pure karma]

yea but no controlers

[fickle gust]

Idk if it still does

[fickle gust]

Well that depends on the game

For example satisfactory controllers work

[pure karma]

need 3rd party support for the vr controlers generally

but yea you can have Headset only VR in any UE5 game

[night girder]

A few friends on steam play VR games regularly.

[fickle gust]

U can do normal VR alot of the games use controllers

It just like I said depends

[night girder]

But it's not for me.

[fickle gust]

Depends on if people actually put the work in too get controllers working

Even without controllers VR is peak

[rocky yarrow]

Yeah, I can see why people who like it like it, but even after having used it and enjoyed it, I've got about zero desire to ever buy it myself

Then again, I don't even like surround sound in movies. :D

[fickle gust]

I like it just the quest 2 looks like dogshit compared too my LG g5

[fickle gust]

Just say u hate good things holy

[rocky yarrow]

Quit trying to convince me that sound effect's coming from behind me, movie, I know you're just getting projected up on that screen. :D

[pure karma]

yea i have no motivation to buy another vr headset

[fickle gust]

I think satisfactory VR is enough of a reason🤷

[pure karma]

cool gimmick not developed enough or cheap enough for me to bite again

[rocky yarrow]

I didn't even like it as a kid; I saw Star Wars on a surround sound setup and got annoyed by the Star Destroyer sounds coming from behind me. Just breaks my immersion

[night girder]

VR kinda reminds me of the evolution of the Wii.

But with virtual reality layer added.

You still have those weird controllers in your hand.

[rocky yarrow]

My suspension of disbelief is primed to immerse me in a glowing rectangle that's in front of me; sounds coming from the sides or behind me or whatever just take me out of that

[fickle gust]

Well that's cuz ur supposed too listen too the sound and focus on the video

[rocky yarrow]

(Given conversation drift: that is a complaint specific to movies and not about VR. Obviously in VR, "surround sound" is a totally different beast. :D)

[fickle gust]

Idk I can't wait too get a proper home theater system

I already have the best display I can get pretty much

Soundbar is mid but free 900$ soundbar and woofer ain't too bad

[rocky yarrow]

Hey, I can't do much about my atavistic reflexes like that. Something breaks me out of immersion, it's breaking me out of immersion

[night girder]

I got sick last time I went to play VR games.

I was on some sort of boat and had to shoot zombies. And I really got motion sickness or something.

[rocky yarrow]

"You're supposed to Not Do That" doesn't work when it's your body's system of awareness working against it. :)

[fickle gust]

I'll be back I need too do dishes so I can go home

[night girder]

I never get that when playing games on a monitor.

[glossy glacier]

i did, as an upgrade/sidegrade of my current HTPC
but considering the price hike due to AI-mania it's probably going to be a no in reality

[night girder]

How many of you have used AI in the past few days?

[pure karma]

i havent

[languid gulch]

ew

[night girder]

Just curious how used it really is.
Also wondering if that justifies the resources (hardware) it requires.
There is also to consider the concept of investing in the future.

[dire igloo]

I haven't

[dire igloo]

the number 1 benefit of AI: shareholders love it
so if all your business decisions cater towards shareholders instead of providing value to consumers or making good business decisions, you'll end up with AI in your product

[wanton orchid]

it will never be worth for what it as been publicly marketed
and for what it is secretly marketed for its not worth either
it's pure greed

it's the "they will pay for my own power ahahahahahahahah" move

[dire igloo]

it's inefficient and ineffective but theoretically generalizable
and the idea of having a "one thing does all" product is super appealing, so you might get blinded by it

[dire igloo]

didn't OpenAI release some tw in-ears with a sales goal beyond what Airpods achieved?
that shows how far detached from reality this whole AI bubble is

[wanton orchid]

except it's a one thing claims to do all (unsuccessfully)
i.e a one thing does nothing

[dire igloo]

business people doing tech

[dire igloo]

they want the Jack of all trades that's better than the master of one, but they only get the master of none

[wanton orchid]

they get the jack shit of all the trade

[night girder]

And if I am not mistaken. Hardware companies are investing in AI companies.
AI companies are buying hardware with that money.

But like ... the money flow is a bit off no?

If there is not **enough **money coming in from consumers, it has to collapse sooner or later no?

[wanton orchid]

Problem is money is circling while fucking everyone

[dire igloo]

*will collapse

and yeah, we're just waiting for reality to catch up

[wanton orchid]

they basically goes for it in repeat

[dire igloo]

sadly, stuff like government bailouts still exist - "too big to fail" goes both ways

[wanton orchid]

I don't think there will be bailouts for the governments

[dire igloo]

they're just cycling the same $10b around each other so they can record high revenue which they invested in other high revenue tech companies

[night girder]

That's what I was assuming.

But investors aren't idiots 🤣

Atleast not all of them.

[dire igloo]

idk tbh, I feel like some government will go "these companies are too important for our economy, we can't allow them to fail"

[night girder]

but if there is no demand for a product. Or not enough.

[wanton orchid]

I said FOR governments

[night girder]

It's not viable.

[wanton orchid]

not from

[dire igloo]

they're finance people, they know finance. but they don't know tech
so while they can understand the numbers on paper, they have no clue what the companies actually do

[night girder]

yeah but if they see money go back and forth.

And some of them have people who investigate stuff like that etc.
They get advised.

[dire igloo]

oh, that was intentional then, I assumed it to be a typo or autocorrect

[wanton orchid]

yep

[night girder]

you don't need to ever bail out a goverment.

They just take on more debt.

[dire igloo]

welcome to shareholder economy
where you as a company care only about the people that give you the most money - which, let's face it, aren't the consumers, not in today's economy

[night girder]

Just an observation from my part with the recent news in mind.

[wanton orchid]

what surprises me is how the fuck dollars are holding any value at this point

[night girder]

I really hoped we knew how used AI really is.

Like factual numbers.

[wanton orchid]

for "social media" a lot
for actual productive uses : something like 2% at best

[dire igloo]

they just see "OpenAI invested into Nvidia" and think "they do AI hardware, makes sense"
and then they see "Opera invested into OpenAI, they're a software company looking for long term partnership, makes sense"
and can't make the financial connections necessary because they're just too misled by the technological differences

[dire igloo]

the world would be pretty damn fucked if it didn't

[night girder]

Maybe. Nevertheless, something is going to catch up.

Doesn't seem like a healthy business model long term.

[dire igloo]

iirc out of all employees at some company that was surveyed, the C-level executives used it the most

[fickle gust]

Yeah motion sickness is a big thing too

Some people just can't do VR

[dire igloo]

you just gotta leave riiiiight before it crashes

[wanton orchid]

if x mean 1000 0000y and 100000000z, you can argue y mean 10 z

[night girder]

Yeah ... about that ... 🤣

a (massive) exit of funds is not healthy

the right leaving before it crashes ... is what causes the actual crash.

[wanton orchid]

that's when it becomes a gun point game

[night girder]

I said it before, it's like that scene where everyone is pointing a gun at eachother.

[night girder]

Exactly!

[dire igloo]

in the aftermath, yeah
but before that, it's some weird push-your-luck game of chicken

[pure karma]

what... the... fuck...

50% of the worklforce uses coke to maek it through the day???!!!

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-1750056094467610487

[dire igloo]

replace any mention of "Cocaine" with "AI"

[night girder]

Why do they call it Cocaine? That's confusing.

[dire igloo]

it's a joke

[night girder]

Ah, sorry. I did not get it.

[dire igloo]

someone took the article and changed the text

[night girder]

I though they really used cocaine. Sounded plausible.

[pure karma]

honestly i believe its probably high

dosent the US military literally use it

[dire igloo]

it's crazy how not far off it sounds

[night girder]

Historical armies used it. But that's the most I know for sure.

[pure karma]

no hte army is Speed if i recall

to stay awake

[night girder]

Nah. Armies used a lot more 😄

[dire igloo]

and tbf, it's not even a bad comparison.
you feel like you're faster and more productive, but overall, you're more volatile and more prone to errors

[night girder]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_drugs_in_warfare#Cocaine

[dire igloo]

Panzerschokolade let's go!

[night girder]

World War I saw the greatest use of cocaine amongst militaries. It was used for medical purposes and as a performance enhancer. At the time, it was not a controlled substance, and was readily available to troops.

[night girder]

but not sure what the US army uses or not 🤣

Officially, nothing I think.

[pure karma]

i dont either i just know they encourage drug use

[night girder]

Oh like that.

A lot of workplaces have some sort of drug usage.

[pure karma]

well yea cigs generally

[dire igloo]

caffeine

[night girder]

Don't want to generalize. But in my country we have a few type of workplaces that are infamous for it.

Like the legal system. A lot of lawyers.

And places with a lot of hours. Stagehands at gigs etc.

Antwerp is also a gateway for drugs. Because of the harbor.

Which is a city over here btw 😄 I guess MagicZ doesn't know.

[pure karma]

i love place names here

especially those meme comps of the funny ones

but yea no clue where or what significant Antwarp has over there

[night girder]

(H)antwerp. Hand = hand. werp = throw. Throw a hand.

There is a whole folk story about a giant cutting of a heroes hand.

[pure karma]

yes that is a real place

[night girder]

Ah, it's a tribe. Actual 3.

That explains it.

[pure karma]

theres also a place called Ragged Ass Rd

which i laughed at for atleast a solid 15 minutes when i learned about it

[night girder]

Also an Indian tribe?

[pure karma]

dont think so for that one

[night girder]

you ever looked up the full story?

Ragged Ass Road is a short unpaved residential street in the Old Town section of Yellowknife, Northwest Territories, Canada. Its name started as a joke in 1970 by resident Lou Rocher, who owned much of the property along it at the time, and his friends. At the time the street had been known as "Privy Road" due to the large number of outhouses along it. When a difficult prospecting season yielded little income, convincing residents that they were "ragged ass broke", they decided that that should be the name of the street.

[pure karma]

yea quite funny

[languid gulch]

is there a way to track a discord's level of activity over time?

[lyric wagon]

Here is that 1440p $800 monitor I bought

[visual tree]

Same. My brain rejects the matrix and just can't get used to it

Btw, this is some good material for movies:
"In Nobody Wants to Die, the memory bank is a central technology in a 2329 dystopian New York that allows the wealthy to achieve functional immortality by storing their consciousness and transferring it between bodies, or "shells". If citizens cannot pay the subscription fee, the government seizes their consciousness, storing it in the bank while auctioning off their bodies. "

"Key details regarding the memory bank and technology:
Ichorite Technology: A substance implanted in the brain allows for consciousness transfer, effectively conquering death for those who can afford it.

Consequence of Poverty: Those who cannot pay for the subscription or fail to keep up with costs have their bodies ("shells") taken, and their consciousness locked in the memory bank.

System Abuse: The system enables the rich to select new bodies for leisure, including, as this review from Mezha notes, "sexual experiments".

Consciousness Destruction: In some cases, characters may intentionally ruin their consciousness—referred to as "melting the ichorite"—to avoid being transferred into a new body, as noted in this Reddit discussion and this Steam Community discussion.

The Plot: Players take on the role of detective James Karra, investigating murders in a society where mortality is optional, but only for the affluent. "

[night girder]

@dire igloo They comming for you.

In recent months, Google, Reddit, __Discord __and Meta, which owns Facebook and Instagram, have received hundreds of administrative subpoenas from the Department of Homeland Security, according to four government officials and tech employees privy to the requests.

[dire igloo]

What model?

[dire igloo]

Would be interesting to see what happens if they try to go after me, ngl
At least if their actions remain within what I think they can realistically do

[verbal raft]

Lol

[visual tree]

Screw ICE

They can add me on the list of public enemies. It would be an honor for me

[lyric wagon]

Not sure model it is, All I know is it's a high end 27-in MSI 1440p 144hz monitor, It was originally $800 but I paid $500 for it

[wanton orchid]

did I read that correctly ?
Homeland Security ?

[dire igloo]

When did you buy it?
QHD 144Hz for $500 sounds like the olden days

[lyric wagon]

2021

[dire igloo]

Makes sense

[jagged snow]

I got a pretty similar deal just a few months ago actually

27" 244hz gen 3 wqhd qd-oled

Paid $489.99 brand new

August of last year

-# /s if not clear 😄

[dire igloo]

244hz? That's a new one

[jagged snow]

240, sorry lol

[dire igloo]

Makes sense overall

Similar in pricing, resolution and the fact there's a 4 in the refresh rate number

[sharp matrix]

Me too, screw ICE i did not vote for that

[visual tree]

I won't be stepping my foot on US soil for at least 3 years

Most insane thing is immigration asking you for social media account history and if you say you have no social media account, they will probably send you to secondary inspection or deny entry

[night girder]

Kinda crazy how we want from a love relation.

In a year. To a hate relation.

[visual tree]

Not to mention they might ask for your phone so they can copy your data and there is no guarantee they won't install a backdoor

[night girder]

There is better places to visit imo.

Funny, a year ago we were talking about how China was doing this.

[visual tree]

Amsterdam flight tickets are cheap and I always wanted to visit Anne Frank's house

[night girder]

And you are welcome there as a tourist 😄

[visual tree]

Meanwhile, some tourist go to Amsterdam to buy weed and visit red light district 🤣

[night girder]

So?

[visual tree]

I am not the target demographics for that kind of tourism though lol

[night girder]

That's fair. But let live and live.

Most tourist who visit for that don't harm a fly.

And just spend their hard earned cash.

Also Red Light District in Amsterdam is a interesting place to visit.

It's been a while, but it's pretty old part of the city. And lots of wild cats for some reason 🤣

The one in Antwerp is gone. They moved all sex wokers to one big villa.

It was once a big neighbourhood, in the 19th century.
Then it got reduced to a street cause law enforcement though it would be better to control.
But they couldn't control criminal activities. So they closed the street and now it's one big villa on the outskirts of the city.

[visual tree]

I hope flood barriers in Netherlands will hold because there is a huge risk of massive flood in the next 50 to 100 years

Afaik, the whole country is at the sea level

[night girder]

country has been preparing for that for ages.

www.watersnoodmuseum.nl/en/water-knowledge/learn-about-water-safety/articles/5-scenarios-to-keep-the-netherlands-dry

[visual tree]

Remember when I fell for the fake story about dutch people not using curtains?

We don't need curtains here when the grumpy granny is always watching on the balcony lol

Bulletproof security system

[night girder]

swzmaritime.nl/news/2024/03/05/how-the-netherlands-can-stay-safe-from-sea-level-rise/

www.euronews.com/green/2023/09/18/how-are-the-dutch-facing-the-threat-of-rising-sea-levels

just to show, it's something NL is very much aware of 😄

[mental oriole]

SMC calls are killing me at work 🙃

[night girder]

Just be careful for pickpocketing. Like with every tourist place.

[visual tree]

Meanwhile, there are cities here near rivers that always get flooded and nobody even asked about installing flood barriers....

[night girder]

Countries near a sea don't have the luxery to postpone the questions and solutions.

They have to act.

[visual tree]

Austria is a good example of protecting cities from river flood

[night girder]

so is the netherlands?

[visual tree]

Netherlands is on a much higher level but it deals with sea afaik

Unless it has issues with rivers too

[night girder]

All embankments.

[visual tree]

R.I.P.

[night girder]

Something like this.

So they are well prepared on that front 😄

[visual tree]

And we are still stuck in the middle ages and use sand bags 🤦‍♂️

Like people never heard of flood barriers which can be easily assembled and disassembled fast before and after the flood

[night girder]

It's such a pretty place.

Sheep, sea, grass and dirt roads 😄

[visual tree]

I like concrete tetrapods although they are mainly used for dispersing waves

[night girder]

brb, out to get some food

[dawn stratus]

i did

[visual tree]

I prefer working from home because when I connect my corporate laptop to office ethernet cable, I have to wait up to 30 minutes in the morning before I can connect to intranet and internal servers

IT department blames corporate security lol

[sharp matrix]

Ok

[dawn stratus]

oh i thought we were sharing

[sharp matrix]

Sharing what hot politics?

[dawn stratus]

i mean scrolling up, seems so

[sharp matrix]

Well this is off topic tech, idk how it turned into politics

Mostly me just commenting that i didnt vote for that insanity

[dawn stratus]

well technically the OP was about social media and ice, which is tech related 🤷‍♂️

[sharp matrix]

From tech to politics, idk about that

But here we are anyways i suppose

[visual tree]

We were talking about the other kind of ICE

[dawn stratus]

oh man i love ice

[visual tree]

Imagine hiring a contractor for plumbing in US, ask the workers do they want some ICE with their drink and suddenly everyone jumps out of the window

[dawn stratus]

not sure why they would but ok

[visual tree]

It's a running joke about immigrant workers getting spooked when they hear the word ICE

Just give them drinks and don't mention the ICE

[dawn stratus]

lmao you think immigrants = illegals?

[mental oriole]

FYI SMC calls are programming related.

[visual tree]

No, I just have a dark sense of humor

[mental oriole]

That's cold

[dawn stratus]

it's a...slippery topic

[sharp matrix]

One could say its ICE cold

[dawn stratus]

gotta think outside the box on this one

[visual tree]

At least you aren't dealing with a program manager ignoring my warning not to use AI virtual agent for communicating with customers....

[sharp matrix]

Cant save idiot managers from themselves

[visual tree]

Basically, AI responses are shit and now I have to deal with that even though I was the one who told the manager not to use AI

[dawn stratus]

AI appears to work well if you don't spend more than 0 seconds fact checking anything it says

[visual tree]

"But we are a modern company, we need AI!"

[sharp matrix]

Hahahaha very true

This is all not going to end well

[mental oriole]

Fair

[visual tree]

The customer basically sends an email with their address for a free fiber optic connection and the AI checks if the address is on the list. If the address is on the list, AI will ask the customer for contact information

[night girder]

got ym foood.

[visual tree]

The biggest issue is AI not recognizing an address properly

[night girder]

goddam what did you all do.

[sharp matrix]

These types of managers i have come across before, they are trying to maximize short term savings and profits, at the cost of long term quality and customer relations, these types of managers are typically bad for any company in the long term, because they typically chase after short term bonus pay checks

[visual tree]

Yeah, I bet he got bonus for implementing AI without mentioning how bad AI responses are

[sharp matrix]

Wonder how long they will keep these people but the damage is probably already done and is going to take a long time to recover from

[visual tree]

I just need to survive few more months manually controlling bad AI outputs and then the manager will have to explain bad AI responses at some point

At least I had a good laugh last friday when a customer asked if they can get wired 5G fiber

Must be a time-traveller because I never heard of 5G fiber 🤣

[sharp matrix]

Did they hear this from AI to i wonder

[visual tree]

No, some people are just tech-illiterate

[sharp matrix]

AI does like to hallunicate after all, could be

[visual tree]

Some village blocked fiber deployment because of a lunatic spreading conspiracy theory about fiber optic cable emmiting deadly radiation which causes cancer...

[sharp matrix]

Lol what

[night girder]

funny we call it hallucinate instead of; "it is jsut plain wrong often" 🤣

[sharp matrix]

Look im not trusting anything AI says ok

[dawn stratus]

i wonder what spectrum of light fiber uses

[sharp matrix]

5G light of course

[visual tree]

All I know is that we use 1310 and 1550 nm wavelength

[sharp matrix]

But seriously its usually near infrared on the spectrum, this is done for many reasons

[visual tree]

People probably heard you must never point fiber optic cable directly into your eyes and made a wrong conclusion it's because fiber emits deadly radiation

[dawn stratus]

i still don't understand why magnetism doesn't effect light since they're both the same type of energy

[visual tree]

I also never understood why some countries don't allow non-conductive fiber inside a conduit with electrical wires

[pure karma]

shifted into politics again as usual lol

[dawn stratus]

btw found a video of a fiber optic wire you can bend into a knot, that's like thinner than a mouse wire

[sharp matrix]

It actually can, just isnt something commonly discussed

[dawn stratus]

https://www.google.com/search?q=I+also+never+understood+why+some+countries+don't+allow+non-conductive+fiber+inside+a+conduit+with+electrical+wires&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&udm=50&aep=48&cud=0&qsubts=1771268876766&source=chrome.crn.obic&mtid=EGuTae_CIbWIptQP5Z6k0QM&mstk=AUtExfBdTPVHGla6qzBatj-Vz752P6UTRr_8yIU0oZAq5ePtT211NRx7mddapYu4kokntGztp8TfX96_g_Om9VuAofNat9F0b2wDqY0LaSIMx9PiE8KdplYNA7Njlk8J-T4KCLaNdAXluADjsZuUBjCQeqnd0V1FS0krtTll-DFxWk_OWnYuLpUh9DzHUxW7Xz1Wzj-YM8nsOqoCboeuaOFwcXwVuforsYqyH5_kx67e-LVMfwH8Ire8Ai1pictneDSvVLd-i51Sy1t5bSUpPg0ZU3m3SjE8_GpfAwpSUvkcItwt42M4-YLQc1fTNEb3H2d4OMn_utRB5yRBsQ&csuir=1

[night girder]

AI Mode in Google Search
Search whatever's on your mind and get AI-powered responses

LOL

[pure karma]

thats called one of these

[sharp matrix]

But yes magnetism absolutely can effect light, even near infrared

[night girder]

so google urls embedes are now ads

[pure karma]

yea its been a thing for some time now

[night girder]

first time I see this

not that magic

[pure karma]

if you use ai mode your just talking to gemini

[visual tree]

There is a very thin version used by technicians where you glue the fiber on the wall

[sharp matrix]

Oh god

[night girder]

Look at embed

[pure karma]

no ik but its taht feature

[night girder]

Fucking ad

[pure karma]

https://www.google.com/search?q=string+phone&client=firefox-b-d&hs=aIhU&sa=X&sca_esv=caf19a2509043654&sxsrf=ANbL-n74zwb1Yo-INM3X6ATRSGTeLpp-jQ%3A1771268883138&udm=50&fbs=ADc_l-bZnt6jMmErT-KRarIgXyuyzQTJF2PfkaOcTEalUPOVQOtlzownaoM46W2pScWjtBcKyqainOvZFRcARZ91nyFV48q8DPbYg6jH3VI7vPCEPKmiI_H3YyfVsJcTpAiu53JOpaSAJB3VmeyMwLL6vuf2XVetiUvFsr3ST8udGZmMn2RNVIBG_-ddt-3PaZkH7X5aJosmPJc7-d_sG8pvk_AHCWQ_LomiDCWg0BXaaX-i71MC2a0&aep=1&ntc=1&ved=2ahUKEwjX7NLk2t6SAxWW1vACHdmjDD0Q2J8OegQICRAD&biw=2859&bih=1428&dpr=0.9

see

[night girder]

So google urls have now ads as an embed.

[pure karma]

if i ask the ai and copy the response url thats what it gives

[sharp matrix]

I see but dont wish to

[pure karma]

so yes its a ad

but not in traditional links atleast

[night girder]

Crazy. Instead of embed showing what the url is linking too.

[sharp matrix]

Apparently....

[night girder]

I appreciate wikipedia more and more in the days of AI craziness.

[sharp matrix]

Google is going crazy with AI to, so now we have AI embed ads in links now to

[visual tree]

Time to punch Elon in the face because he is going after Wikipedia

[night girder]

Nah he is after Netflix

[sharp matrix]

I sure cant wait until this AI slop is finally done with

[night girder]

(un)related. I read today that bitcoin is slowly fading out. Not dead. But not alive really either.

[bronze jasper]

it's litereally the page's meta information. Discord has always displayed that for links when an embed isn't defined. I don't think google is being nefarious here. If they wanted to put ad's into discord they'd just buy discord

[sharp matrix]

Good bitcoin can die along with the ai slop to

[night girder]

Oh, so it's all by accident this happens.

Gotcha. Nobody wrote actually code or anything.

Nah, the embeds just show up out of thin air without anyone writing the actuall strings and code.

[bronze jasper]

being weird

[night girder]

It's GOOGLE who decides the metadata.

Google can as well, show the question + answer in their embed.

[bronze jasper]

Yeah, and a random person in this chatroom that linked a search result

[night girder]

Which is far more usefull for an AI embed instead of some weird "hey ask me anything you want I can answer it all"

[visual tree]

At least I am glad Netflix will probably buy WB instead of Paramount even though both are evil to some degree

[bronze jasper]

They could've but they didn't. That comes from a lack of coding the featuer. Header information has been a part of the html spec since Sir Tim wrote it

[visual tree]

Larry Ellison doesn't take no for an answer apparently lol

[sharp matrix]

For sure, best we can hope for is the lesser of evils in the end...

[night girder]

Again, I code long enough to know this is done on purpose.

I've been in the meetings. I met marketing people on the floor.

[bronze jasper]

The paramount deal was backed by Saudi Arabian money so i'm glad netflix got it. At least that way, WB might reprivatise in the future. I couldn't see Paramount doing that. Paramount would close the WB lot immediately i think

[visual tree]

I feel like everything today is about lesser of two evils and that frustrates me tbh

[bronze jasper]

Lesser of two evils for sure

[night girder]

What's the size of wiki atm? And we got backups right?

If wikipedia is decentralized. Elon can't touch it.

https://tenor.com/view/hail-hydra-cut-head-red-skull-villain-gif-17278080

[sharp matrix]

In case of google, i have no doubt this is intended, google trying to shove this ai slop down our throats, just like other companies catch in this ai bs

[night girder]

If the internet is motivated enough ofc. Hell, some 🏴‍☠️ have been taken down a million times and are still going.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download

[sharp matrix]

Best i can pray for is when this ai stupidity is finally over with

[night girder]

pages-articles-multistream.xml.bz2 – Current revisions only, no talk or user pages; this is probably what you want, and is over 25 GB compressed (expands to over 105 GB when decompressed). Note that it is not necessary to decompress the multistream dumps in the majority of cases.

not bad... should actually do it. So smart of wikipedia.

The more copies on disks spread over the world, the higher chance of the information surviving time.

And it's not their property either since community wrote pages, so only seems fair to make it public downloadable.

All revisions, all pages: These files expand to multiple terabytes of text. Please only download these if you know you can cope with this quantity of data. Go to Latest Dumps and look out for all the files that have 'pages-meta-history' in their name.

[sharp matrix]

Fair i dont like it either, sigh world we live in

[visual tree]

I am like, at least give me some good option, nobody is asking for a perfect option because it's unrealistic

But no, you are given two pills and the only difference is that one pill will kill you sooner so to speak

[night girder]

You overthinking it if you think you **even have **options

[visual tree]

Thanks for making me even more depressed 🤣

[pure karma]

yea choice is no longer real

[night girder]

It helps to know you are not in control!

Just go with the flow.

Nothing wrong with venting about it though.

And to be fair. You are still in control.

[visual tree]

Guess we both took the red pill

[night girder]

You don't have to buy hardware.
You don't have to use AI.
You don't have to use Discord.
You don't have to use social media.

Etc.

Maybe it aint so bad if Discord would have pulled off that ID requirement

Means million people would go outside, discover the world and pick up a hobby like fishing or something 🤣

Its something lately on my mind I keep telling myself, "I don't have to keep using Discord if it's going too crazy".

[visual tree]

Except you can't go out during winter because the air is polluted

*jk

[night girder]

But you understand what I am trying to say?

[pure karma]

sliping and dying is more of a problem i fear

and that you do not particularly have much choice about

[visual tree]

Yeah, you are a "choice millionaire" so to speak

[night girder]

Instead of trying to fight Discord corp. We could change ourself. We install the products. We buy the hardware.
So we are part of the problem? Maybe?

[dawn stratus]

that's what i've always said

vote with your wallet

[night girder]

Atleast it's a though that helps me relevate*? recent news 🙂

[bronze jasper]

it's not the corp really. it's the rule of law pushing the corps this way.

corporations would be happy to market to children and bombard them with manipulative media if the law wasn't preventing them from going full out on that field

[pure karma]

we are no longer the wallet anymore

[night girder]

Lets not go there 😄 I just say, law/corpos are interwoven now.

[pure karma]

and neither are we the vote

[dawn stratus]

no law in the USA is pushing discord to ID USA citizens. you're boot licking for Discord for some reason.

what crime did i commit? you said the corps don't have a choice

[bronze jasper]

they got rid of the moderator ping lol. oh well

[night girder]

And right so. It's been missused a bit lately. (in my opinion).

[pure karma]

still very much there

just only for those who dont use it all the time

[bronze jasper]

<@&387163995947270144>

[night girder]

Don't meant to offend you IceyCold.

But you two have been pinging mods back and forth quoting eachother messages.

[dawn stratus]

wow this guy is going off the rails

[pure karma]

i mean every offence in that clown react

[night girder]

Anyway. Seems we can't talk AI. Or companies anymore. Without escalation.

So pure hardware it is.

[bronze jasper]

ok. I'm not offended. i just think you're naive

[dawn stratus]

"i'm not offended" literally pings the mods

[night girder]

Magic, did you buy ram kit?

[pure karma]

yea i did

16GB of 3200 ddr4 i think it was

idk i dident really look i just bought the cheapest ddr4 available

[night girder]

for how much? now I am curious what cheap is for memory 😄

[bronze jasper]

probably better than most of the lower end ddr5 since ddr5 has such bad timings

[pure karma]

180$ Cad so idk like 130$ USD or so i think

[dawn stratus]

probably no AI wants ddr4, it's so last season

[night girder]

PS6 is postponed to 2028/2029 probably. Because of memory shortage.

And the prices would be too high.

www.pushsquare.com/news/2026/02/sony-considering-ps6-delay-to-2028-or-even-2029-new-report-says

[pure karma]

nice thing baout ddr4 is unlike ddr5 it has very bulletproof stability

[dawn stratus]

i coulda sworn ddr5 was suppose to require error correction

[pure karma]

idk if my ddr5 kit is just really old and sat on a shelf but its been garbo the whole time i have owned it

[bronze jasper]

sony would be smart to delay ps6 till after the ps5. then they'll get all the sales for ps5 release as well as all the sales for ps6 release

[night girder]

I am confused?

PS5 is out? For a while now?

[bronze jasper]

they probably will do it for that purpose, but blame the market memory for it. then charge exorberant prices for the ps6 anyways

[pure karma]

PS5 has been out for over 5 years now

[bronze jasper]

lol nearing the end of it's cycle

[night girder]

Microsoft will have a "next-gen Xbox" in 2027, which it's supporting the launch of.

Also interesting.

[pure karma]

did the xbox ally even release

i swear that thing died before even coming out lmao

[night girder]

xbox is in rough waters last I read

[dawn stratus]

we'll call it, the Xbox One Original RoundAbout F

[dawn stratus]

idk they've been saying that ever since the One and the 360

[night girder]

Since then, Microsoft has drawn fire for multiple waves of layoffs; reorganized several subsidiaries such as Halo Studios; raised the base MSRP of the Xbox Series X twice so far this year; made moves to phase out physical media; officially ported many of its hit first- and third-party games to PlayStation and Switch; and canceled multiple highly-anticipated game projects such as Rare’s Everwild, a reboot of Perfect Dark, and ZeniMax’s MMO code-named Project Blackbird.

Earlier this month, Microsoft hiked the price of its Xbox Game Pass subscription service, claiming it was part of a significant “upgrade package.” Less relevantly to consumers, it has also allegedly raised the price of Xbox development kits by $500, blaming unspecified “macroeconomic” factors.

[dawn stratus]

Dr. Evil...."riiiight"

[night girder]

There is more context to it.

[dawn stratus]

i mean MS's "reasons"

[night girder]

But I am not posting that here else we going to need to tag the mdoerators again.

But there is stuff going on in the world out of MS control, to give em a bit of credit.

[dawn stratus]

i don't buy Nitendo's excuses either

[pure karma]

there still colapsing from the inside out it would seem

[night girder]

Which ones?

[dawn stratus]

about why their games cost more, or their console, or why their physical copies are hollow trash.

[pure karma]

nintendo practically cant fail sicne they sell at a profit + a ovpriced online subscription

there games were justified before they had switch online but now its just bs

they costed 10 bucks more but you had no online subcription when the switch originally came out

so you saved big time

[night girder]

I think nintendo pulled off an apple. (or vice versa 🙈)

closed eco system, build your loyal community/fanbase/costumers up.

[dawn stratus]

yep and i don't buy apple

especially after they faded out my ipad mini 2

[sharp matrix]

Indeed, wonder if the mods are getting tired of all of the pings or just looking at it all and face palming at this point

Probably face palming i would imagine now

[mental oriole]

I have a name for it-
X-slop

[night girder]

You made it through the day? 🙂

[mental oriole]

ye?

[night girder]

Ask because of this 🤣

[mental oriole]

like

idk if my asm call is wrong or if the parameters are wrong 😄

I'm getting error code 6, which is nowhere to be found in the documentation 🙃

[night girder]

oh lovely, just perfect when you can't find it in documentation 🤣

[mental oriole]

Then I took another smc call implementation and got my custom error code 7 (which is invalid aes key)

sooo idk

But that tomorrow me problem.

[tall forum]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Australian_Lorax_415628/saved/FQ9BhM

@hardy compass

[night girder]

Don't like to make calls in the blind and just kinda guessing.

but some respones are not helpfull.

[tall forum]

wgat

[tall forum]

how do i share it

[mental oriole]

Have a few ideas for tomorrow at least so not going in without any ideas.

[tall forum]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Australian_Lorax_415628/

try going of this

[hardy compass]

why ping me

[tall forum]

i thought you were interested

[hardy compass]

no, not at all

[bold tapir]

bruh ahahahaha

[bold tapir]

send a pic

[hardy compass]

I know like 0 things about building a computer lol

[quasi agate]

you want LOTS of lights to increase its horsepower

ok I see multiple things with lights so you're off to a good start at least

[bold tapir]

i thought youre that tech guy who built hes own nuclear reactor at home

[bold tapir]

5060 8gb is not best to say the least

[glossy glacier]

oof, that single stick of ram is a kick in the gut

i'd say go to two, but no in this economy xD

[bold tapir]

thats why it says Crucial

[tall forum]

dont worry i know a friend who has a shit ton of ram and hes giving me some i just hat to put something there

[bold tapir]

i didnt know people buy windows license

[glossy glacier]

MVP

[tall forum]

i had to otherwise it wouldnt let me save it

[night girder]

You saying what I am thinking. But I don't want to go there haha 🤣

[hardy compass]

I'm a software guy, not hardware guy

[glossy glacier]

only other thing of note would be that you don't need an AIO with that CPU, a cheaper air cooler will do it too

[quasi agate]

• 7700x => 7800x3d would be better for gaming and probably even save you a tiny bit of money
• ditch the AIO cooler and get a decent air cooler. You'll save money and you won't need the AIO unless you're planning to overclock just for fun
• if you have money for it I'd think about a better video card

[tall forum]

budget under 2500 AUD

[night girder]

You can probably save some money on the M2* too.

[glossy glacier]

skip MS-license, invest in RX 9070 🙃

[bold tapir]

then higher psu prob

[glossy glacier]

nah, 750 is fine

running my 9070 xt with a 750 too ^^

[bold tapir]

i love amd btw

[tall forum]

is my video card bad?

[bold tapir]

not wise choice

[quasi agate]

it's both a lower tier and several gens old so it's not amazing for sure

[glossy glacier]

no comment, thats a rabbit hole

[bold tapir]

bro wdym 5060 is several gens old

[night girder]

here we go

[tall forum]

so should i invest in a different one

[bold tapir]

yes not 8gb slop generator

[glossy glacier]

for this kind of build it's ok
is there a 16GB version?

[bold tapir]

or 8gb ti

cuz 5060 8gb is worse than 6800

[bold tapir]

i love amd

[tall forum]

i might get the MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card

[bold tapir]

3060 is gold

[glossy glacier]

no, thats worse imo

[bold tapir]

will be enough for 1080p

[bold tapir]

worse by performance, not by price i guess

[glossy glacier]

performance is probably the same, but a 3060 is two gens older
less features, shorter support

[verbal raft]

more VRAM, less performance

vs the 5060

[bold tapir]

oh i forgot nvidia asshole policy about old gens

[tall forum]

alright this one PowerColor Reaper Radeon RX 9060 XT 16 GB Video Card

[bold tapir]

fire

[tall forum]

im getting that one then

[bold tapir]

maybe 9070?

[verbal raft]

how much is a 9060 XT 16GB in your region ?

[tall forum]

and im only getting one monitor for now

[tall forum]

579

[verbal raft]

for the cheapest available ?

[bold tapir]

same price as 5060 but absolute cinema

[tall forum]

finally done

is this mid low or high?

[bold tapir]

you forgot to swap liquid cooling with good air cooler

[verbal raft]

i also think you are overspending on the CPU

[bold tapir]

ye

[tall forum]

its fine i might upgrade in future so i want a good one

[verbal raft]

the 9060 XT doesnt need a 7700x
could go for a 7600/9600 (whichever is cheaper) instead and save some money

[glossy glacier]

depends on the games/software that are going to be run

[bold tapir]

for casual person i5 12400 or same performance grade is enough forever

[night girder]

if budget allows

[glossy glacier]

but as i said before, you don't need an AIO for this CPU. if you want, change it to a cheaper air-cooler
if you want the AIO, a decent build

[bold tapir]

if youre not gonna render movies or compile games

[verbal raft]

for gaming in general it will be very rare for a 7600 to bottleneck a 9060 xt
and the 7700x isnt that much better for gaming than the 7600* anyway

[bronze jasper]

unless you plan on gaming at 4k, get an older cheaper gpu. even at 1440p you don't need a lot to do red dead redemption 2 at ultra graphics at 100s of fps

12gb is a good future proof mark for something like gta vi when it comes to pc. 16gb will carry you further.

[bold tapir]

satisfactory maxed out in 4k can get 60 fps on rx6800, thats my exp

[verbal raft]

the 9060 xt gets i think like 30fps in satis at 4K native

[bold tapir]

oh native

i cant native

need 5070ti for that prob

[bronze jasper]

why native though? it's not like satisfactory was designed to be a 4k demo. it doesn't provide the detail that native would benefit from. fsr that bish

[verbal raft]

Even at 1080p native i still get drops below 60 with lumen
Or atleast i did on the stable branch

[tall forum]

i gotta go guys

[bronze jasper]

don't die!

[tall forum]

school 💔

[bronze jasper]

stay safe out there

[tall forum]

this is pretty good advice

[verbal raft]

Experimental runs better

[bronze jasper]

sounds like amd driver problems tbh

[bold tapir]

how much better

[bold tapir]

i love amd btw

[verbal raft]

Also a massive pain getting my pretty shadows to work there

[verbal raft]

Lol

[bold tapir]

even tho they cant fix audio recording problem for like 5 years now

[verbal raft]

Idk, i havent tested beyond just instantly focusing on abusing the better denoiser 5.6 has and making my pretty shadow tweaks work

[verbal raft]

Which they still dont btw 😡

[bronze jasper]

seems like 9060 doesn't have the kind of bandwidth needed to do any game at 4k 60fps. it's not that kind of card.

i still stand by that unless you are trying to do 4k gaming, you don't need a newer gpu. and 4k gaming is kind of not ready anyways. very few modern games have the detail that makes it an actual visual upgrade over 1080p gaming

[bold tapir]

even tho their video upscaling thingy doesnt work at all

[verbal raft]

Idk what they were thinking

[bold tapir]

ive played Bodycam with their 4k textures and shit. Thats fire

[verbal raft]

That thing is literally just FSR 1 but for video
And it never works anyway so kek

[bronze jasper]

i think 1440p is an integer scaling ratio to 4k resolution so it's the best mode to game in if you're running a true 4k monitor

[bold tapir]

with same performance as maxed cyperpunk or satisfactory

[bold tapir]

i dont think ai cares about integers

[bronze jasper]

some 4k monitors have weird rgb sub pixels that mess with halfing the pixels. i forget what the best way to scale resolution for those are. and i think they're older 4k monitors anyways

[verbal raft]

Textures only really effect perf on modern cards when you run out of VRAM

[bronze jasper]

yeah you could use dlss or fsr for it too

[bold tapir]

i mean when talking about details you can see in 4k

[bold tapir]

textures matter

[dire igloo]

nope, 3:2

2160:1440

[bronze jasper]

it's not just a matter of lines. it's horizontal res too

[bold tapir]

for some reason most wow game for me in graphics was Shadow of the tomb raider 2018. i dont know why i like that picture the most

[dire igloo]

horizontal is 3:2 too cuz it's same aspect ratio

[verbal raft]

I dont think any card below a 7900 XT(X) / 9070 XT / 5070 TI / 4080 can realisticly run 4K native well in modern games

[dire igloo]

2560+1280 = 3840

[bold tapir]

enjoyed talking to you guys, now i go sleep. its utc+3 here so 00:18

[bronze jasper]

when you multiply both areas, qhd is half the total pixels of uhd

[bold tapir]

good night yall

[dire igloo]

it's not.
you have a 9:4 conversion ratio, so a factor of 2.25

[verbal raft]

Okay so people have been lying to me
And im angvy

[bronze jasper]

not quite. still off. but i'm wrong too. it's nothalf the pixels. its slightly less. so yeah dlss and fsr scaling would be best to get the clean 4k signal

[verbal raft]

They always are when support

[bronze jasper]

and you'd do this because most modern games, there's simply no point in a native 4k signal

[dire igloo]

huh?

[verbal raft]

People have been telling me that the quality upscale is upscaling (on most TAAU algos) from half the resolution but i guess not

[verbal raft]

There is, native 4K (on FSR 3.1) looks better than FSR 3 upscaling from 1440p

[bronze jasper]

okay so lets say you're an enthusiast and like 4k native. i appreciate that. so you mod games with texture packs that add a ton of granular visual detail , but it then destroys the game's visual communication design and art style. i guess if you're into that thats cool.

I personally think the best looking native 4k content is the demo reels they loop while on show floors. not a lot gets to that production height. Nascar looks good too but i'm not a race fan.

[verbal raft]

Thats not what i mean

[bronze jasper]

and if i was trying to run 4k native gaming content, maybe a better gpu than midrange would be a good choice.

[verbal raft]

Same applies to all upscalers and TAAU algos
Though its less bad on somethin like DLSS 4 or FSR 4

[dawn stratus]

god ddaayyum the ram prices.

[languid gulch]

my kit's still listed at $1200USD

but hey, free shipping!

and WD announced that most of storage drives have been spoken for now

[pure karma]

low cause of the ram tbh but the standards have hit rock bottom so uhh mid range i guess

[tall forum]

ok

improved btw

this is probably final ig

@pure karma @bold tapir

@verbal raft

[verbal raft]

It wouldve been mid range regardless

[tall forum]

better ram

[verbal raft]

16GB ram is totally fine

For gaming

[tall forum]

im doing 32gb

because i want to play a ton of high end stuff

like physic simulator games

[languid gulch]

why the cooler?

[tall forum]

wdym

[languid gulch]

go for the cheapo Thermalright 360 AIO, it competes directly for like a third of the price

[tall forum]

but i might improve cpu and need a better fan would that one still be good?

[languid gulch]

yup

[tall forum]

thank you

[languid gulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPQ-UvavT8Q

i assume those prices are in AUS

also switch the spinning rust for an SSD

0 reason to be using just an HDD for your OS

cpu/gpu/psu/mobo/case/ram all look fine to me

[bold tapir]

Bro but replace liquid cooler with air

[languid gulch]

i mean, yes, thermalright peerless assassin 120SE dual tower is de facto my recommendation

if switching to that will save you enough to bump the cpu up to the next tier or you're within ~$30-40 of it, i'd say go for it

<-assassin 120SE user

[glossy glacier]

Noo, why an HDD? Go back to an SSD

[bronze jasper]

5400 rpm hdd even

[glossy glacier]

Rather settle with 16GB RAM and a SSD than 32GB RAM and a HDD

[bronze jasper]

ram is the easiest to upgrade down the line

[languid gulch]

i wasn't checking, is $2300AUD a hard cap?

[bold tapir]

Sometimes its better to buy prebuilt

[bold tapir]

My friend bought well balanced 3060 setup for like $500

[twin dew]

2.5" SMR 5400 RPM HDD.
Not just any HDD.

The absolute worst you can get.

Even just SMR to CMR would be large update for OS drive.

[languid gulch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cjMPxf

$1612USD ($2281AUS)

stuffed a 1TB gen5 NVMe in it

[twin dew]

And just dropping the $150 water cooler for air cooler would give enough space to get some usable SSD in there.

[languid gulch]

yea, did some adjustments, but the price tiers seem to be mostly fixed within a $10-20ish range

ram, storage, and gpus really just skyrocket out of nowhere if you go with the well-known brands/reliability established ones

[twin dew]

Thanks "AI"™

[languid gulch]

yup

decent rig at that price tho

[tall forum]

could you guys list some storage then please

@twin dew @languid gulch

[languid gulch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cjMPxf

listed there

[twin dew]

I have no idea about what would be available or at what price in Australia.

[languid gulch]

yea i mostly just went with the USD price point, it's a pain to check availability

[tall forum]

cooler is out of stock

s this one ok Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB

[languid gulch]

there's like 8 different variations of it, so long as it's the dual tower assassin it'll be around that price

RGB, non RGB, black fans, white fans

powder coated black vs bare metal

[tall forum]

what storage

sorry i had to go eat dinner

[tall forum]

i got it

thank you very much

hows this?

[languid gulch]

looks decent to me, maybe someone else could chime in on the psu & maybe mobo if they're safe

[tall forum]

and how do i install a operating system

[languid gulch]

16gb flash drive with win10/11 install files on it, use your current system's activation code (or a family/friend's dead pc activation code)

[tall forum]

ok and one more question sorry i just searched it up and it said there is like a watermark when you get the free version what does that mean and how big is it

[languid gulch]

reread what i wrote 🤣

basically any old windows code back to windows 7/8 should work to activate it after the install (or as part of the install when it asks)

[warm jay]

If you use your ms account, you will automatically get the licence your using rn. Worked multiple time for me. Or just get the licence number on your current computer. If it’s a prebuilt there is probably a sticker somewhere

[languid gulch]

Press Win + R, type regedit, and hit Enter.
Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\SoftwareProtectionPlatform

Look for the "BackupProductKeyDefault" entry.

25 digit code, 5x5, write it down somewhere, use it on the new pc

just don't mess around with anything in there, registry editor can seriously mess with the system

[tall forum]

i want windows 11

[languid gulch]

yup, win7/8 code should work

microsoft would rather let you use the code to use their stuff than risk losing you to apple or linux

[tall forum]

peak the current setup

[languid gulch]

i recognize that laptop cooler 🤣

[tall forum]

because of how good macbook airs are they dont have inbuilt fans 🥹

[languid gulch]

uh huh 🤣

[tall forum]

if i get a pc it will be my first pc and my first computer upgrade in 6 years

first pc EVER

but for the past 6 years i have had this same macbook

[languid gulch]

i was there around 2018, and i spent the next ~3 years screwing around trying to save a prebuilt that was crap to begin with, so i know the pain

[tall forum]

the thing is though at least i have a macbook

[languid gulch]

and a fuzzball

[tall forum]

some people dont get the privelege of owning a laptop ever so im pretty lucky

[tall forum]

hes cost like 15000+ in vet bills because of how bad his immune system is

[languid gulch]

lil stinker

[tall forum]

lil cutie

#screenshots message

[languid gulch]

he looks insulted that you took a picture of his bad side

[tall forum]

😭

[languid gulch]

🤣

[tall forum]

he likes to play satisfactory with me

[languid gulch]

yes, i've had cats

[tall forum]

i have 2 currently

that one is 16 or 17 and my other one is 20

[languid gulch]

but yea, that system will be a gigantic jump up

i will suggest some kind of solid cover over the top of the case, since i've recently seen on reddit some people talking about their cats not just enjoying the heat that comes out of the top, but peeing &/or puking on top of there and ruining the whole thing. shouldn't really impact thermals much, and that hardware doesn't put out an insane amount of heat

[tall forum]

they dont do that

they are good cat

[languid gulch]

well good 🙂

[tall forum]

yes

my macbook has 8gb intel ram

[languid gulch]

yea, apple were the original ram price spikers

i bet 16gb upgrade from them was like $200USD

[tall forum]

no i dont believe its an option

[languid gulch]

ouchie

is it soldered to the board?

[tall forum]

sadly yes

[languid gulch]

yeesh

yea that sucks

[tall forum]

so i couldnt upgrade it if i wanted to

[languid gulch]

intel chip there makes sense tho

they've worked with apple for decades

[tall forum]

also do you know where i could get help to assemble it

[languid gulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC-Xn2C_L1U

only real difference with yours will be AMD instead of Intel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjNfGLEzYCg

and ask around your social circle, someone might have done a build recently

having a 2nd person there who's done it before definitely helps with 1st time anxiety

or just pay a tech support/repair store to do it

[tall forum]

how likely am i to break something

[languid gulch]

depends on how much you're paying attention to what you're doing

the most annoying part is plugging in the 24 pin to the motherboard

be sure that the things with gold pins are really lined up well, nothing needs a hammer

been watching the LTT video and it's a really good guide

with a cooler like the assassin, the fins are kinda sharp, so getting those fan clips on can hurt a bit

[tall forum]

ok

[languid gulch]

but that's basically every air cooler ever

overall it's fairly straightforward, it's not like you're going to accidentally plug the GPU into a ram slot

the only cables that look similar are the ones for cpu power & the GPU power ones, so they're labeled. GPU get the ones labeled PCIe

[soft bloom]

Why would ubuntu installer fail to see existing lvm lv even after opening luks nad doing scans?

[soft bloom]

huh, i see
it doesn't load in device mapper...

[soft bloom]

Pheh
Was trying to load ubuntu with advanced params to upgrade grub, and that menu was totally broken,
With no reaction to arrows
And visual glitches.
Isn't it supposed to be in safe mode?...

[twin dew]

No, unless you actually set it to try to be compatible in config.
In many distros the default Grub settings try to be "flashy" and "modern".

And not the "old" text mode only.

Same for any extra parameters you give in Grub for Linux itself etc.

[soft bloom]

Advanced options' menu is kinda the oldest gui in text terminal I ever seen, aside form bios, efi and grub

Well, second try didn't contain those glitches and it was responsive

Hmmmmm
Though, in that boot log
I see strange waiting for a device
And then dependency fails for filesystem check, boot/efi and local fiel system
Seems sus

[night girder]

source: store.steampowered.com/steamdeck

[winged valley]

You could

Upgrading soldered ram is absolutely possible

That said though, intel macs are not worth having in 2026

I'd save up for one of the camera notch models if you truly must have a macbook

[night girder]

Because?

[twin dew]

Getting obsoleted on software side.

[night girder]

That's it?

new macbook will be announced soon anyway.

[twin dew]

Remember last ones were launched in 2019.

[night girder]

Apple has announced a special event for next month, inviting members of the press on March 4, 2026 at 9 a.m. ET. Apple is branding this as a “special Apple Experience” rather than your typical Apple event.

probably cheaper one too.

New low-cost MacBook powered by the A18 Pro chip
New M5 MacBook Air
New M5 Pro and M5 Max MacBook Pro models
New Mac displays
iPhone 17e
A18 base iPad
M4 iPad Air

[night girder]

Isn't Windows/Microsoft in the same boat?

[twin dew]

Point was that in 2020 Apple switched to ARM.
And is in process of dropping x86 support completely.

[night girder]

Ah, that's what you meant. Then say that 🤣

[twin dew]

Final stages of that.

[night girder]

All I can say from experience is that the quality of their software really went down.

And the hardware is what it's always been. You pay too much for it really.

I am still pissed they removed the apple that gave light 🤣 To safe space. Because thinner and thinner was a focus point of Apple. For whatever reason.

This stuff. Apple standing there proudly showing how they make shit thinner. And people go for it 🤷‍♂️

[winged valley]

Macos Tahoe (the current version) is the last version of Macos that will support the x86 instruction set

From here on its ARM only

[night girder]

Yeah sorry forgot that.

I though the switch was already complete.

[winged valley]

It basically is yeah

[night girder]

I still got a Intel Core i5 😕

[winged valley]

Removing the apple backlit logo wasnt a space thing btw

[night girder]

That's what they said back then. Pretty sure.

[winged valley]

Its because those older macbooks still had a flourescent backlight

Switching to LED saved space, but it also did a lot more than that

Ofc they could've kept the window

Also funny how they rave about thin design when current day MBPs are bricks

[night girder]

Glowing logos take up much more space in the screen form factor as compared to the Mirror back logos. So to make the screen of the MacBook slimmer than the present Air and Pro models, they need to take out something which makes the screen slimmer. The translucent fibre glowing logo makes the screen thick and has no functionality to it except just a logo. So they decided to move to the mirror back logo. The thin screen would require more strength. A gap in the screen for the glowing logo may damage its durability.

But memory is foggy, happened so long ago 🤣

[winged valley]

Weird

[night girder]

They made the Macbook slimmer by saving space and the whole Macbook series now is in sync with the existing iPods and iPhones, all having mirror back logos.

[night girder]

Tell me about it. But you never know with Apple if what they say is the real reason.

[winged valley]

Apple says you can't "pair" an aftermarket screen to your device for security reasons

What security vulnerabilities does a dumb ASIC that can only ever receive data have?

Tell me apple

[night girder]

Apple use the security for everything.

How long did it take before Google was to allow to use aidrop? Or Apple was willing to help them set this up.

Because of "security".

[winged valley]

I thought that was because google found a loophole

[night girder]

Oh shit they did.

Google built this entire AirDrop bridge on its own terms, without Apple’s help. The company told Android Authority in a statement that it accomplished this through its own implementation, wrapped it in layers of security, and tested it with independent experts.

[soft bloom]

It theory what should be repaired after efi was shrunk (well actually I did recreate it)
And /boot was moved nad expanded?

It looks like grub itself did update fine.
But ubuntu doesn't boot,
With that weird device loading

[mental oriole]

@night girder guess what error code 6 was?
||invalid length, aka data wasnt padded to 4 byte alignment||
Not mentioned anywhere unles you read the auto-generated code...

[night girder]

security by obscurity

[twin dew]

The gift just keeps giving:
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/western-digital-is-already-sold-out-of-hard-drives-for-all-of-2026-chief-says-some-long-term-agreements-for-2027-and-2028-already-in-place

And HP has launched laptop subscription programs...
With horrible prices and terms.
You cannot cancel until 13th month without excessive penalties, and at least for some models the rental price overcomes the buy price around 16th month of rental.

And you never get to actually own that laptop.

[night girder]

Not sure who really came up with the "You will own nothing" ...

but services replacing consumers owning is not new. It just gets more and more widespread.

How many went to use spotify and apple music I am still buying and dowloading MP3.

[sharp matrix]

I also like the quote "If buying isnt owning, piracy isnt stealing"

[soft bloom]

Oh
It was a trivial thing of not updating uuid of that efi partition

[pure karma]

on some better news the new 3D mark test is pretty cool

intended for laptops

[bronze jasper]

software piracy has never been theft. it's infringement

[visual tree]

Had a shitshow at work because someone brought an insulated vacuum flask that looks like a large bullet 🤣

Good thing HR wasn't around because that person would be screwed lol

[dire igloo]

if buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing

[night girder]

HR makes a deal of that? 😄

Haha, Teamspeak has issues. Because of influx from Discord to Teamspeak. 🤣

www.pcgamer.com/hardware/as-many-seek-a-discord-alternative-teamspeak-claims-an-incredible-surge-of-new-users-has-maxed-out-its-hosting-capacity-in-multiple-regions/

[visual tree]

Our HR would make a deal out of anything, two-headed snakes....

[night girder]

Really? That's not allowed?

[visual tree]

I mean, it's not strictly prohibited but HR would make a problem out of anything that might remotely scare some employees

They also didn't want to hire me in the first place but my superior ignored them and is happy with my performance

[night girder]

make a problem out of anything that might remotely scare some employees

So the internet is not allowed either? 😏

[visual tree]

HR probably brought my personality test results to the superior when they were hiring and my smart superior didn't trust those tests because he knew they aren't reliable

I am so glad I proved them wrong those tests are worthless

[night girder]

I got hit by those tests too.

I was too dumb or something.

The company was super alternative. Inclussive. With a heart for people.

And then they told me I was too stupid haha. They showed their cards.

[visual tree]

My recommendation is to ignore what HR says. They made up personality test in order to pretend they are doing something useful

[night girder]

Think I dodged a bullet there.

I had to pass the test to be hired by them or something.

and then can't call it an IQ test, so they call it somethign different.

[mental oriole]

They clearly havent seen a real bullet.

[night girder]

have you? 😄

[mental oriole]

I have, yes.

[night girder]

it does resemble this.

Mortar shell. Tiny bit.

[mental oriole]

Naah, looks like an up-scaled 9mm

[night girder]

The size ... makes me say it's more mortar than bullet 😛

[mental oriole]

with a fucked up tip

(:

[night girder]

Largest Mortar Shell 😄

[visual tree]

Tbh, when I saw the bullet bottle, it took me several seconds to realize it's fake 😅

At first I was like" Who the fuck left an artillery shell in the kitchen?" 🤣

[mental oriole]

Is it stupid?
Yes.

[night girder]

"Ah not again!"

"Please clean up your mortar shells boys and girls" 🤣

I personally wouldn't buy it.

But then I am also that person who doesn't understand the water bottle hype.

[mental oriole]

I just have a tea mug instead :))

[night girder]

You pick up a glass. Walk to the faucet. Pour water into the glass.
Go back to your chair.

[visual tree]

I just use a cheap glass bottle I got as a promo material for free

[night girder]

glass is fine.

just don't reuse plastic bottles.

[visual tree]

Yeah, plastic bottle is bad if you want to reuse it

[night girder]

But, can anyone tell em the advantages of them?

I can understand the following;

• it motivates people to drink more, since you can fill it up.
• you don't have to buy plastic water bottles.

But why is it so popular in office buildings?

[visual tree]

I avoid glass because I'm clumsy and would probably spill everything 🤣

So I just use a glass bottle with cap

[night girder]

I live on coffee. And since that's a drug.
I am a drug addict.

[visual tree]

Same here

• sugar

Worse addiction for me than coffee

I couldn't imagine starting my day without coffee

[night girder]

me neither really. a very slow boot up of my brain 🤣

[visual tree]

Also glad a coffee chain opened at the train station and their coffee is really good not to mention they sell packed coffee beans which have been roasted recently

Can't remember when I had coffee with such a beautiful flavor

[night girder]

we have a "new one" with a slow drip function or something.

the rest of the modes aren't that good, but the slow one is dope.

Takes a bit though 🤣

[pure karma]

i have obtained a piece of shit pc i dont want with no power cable

hurray

atleast it was free lol

[night girder]

gz! 🥳

the memory alone is worth it!

[pure karma]

its 8Gb of ddr3 lmao

it dosent even respond to the power button so its probably giga dead but ayy a pc is a pc

[tall forum]

im getting 32gb of Crucial CT2K16G56C46U5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL46 Memory

is that good

[pure karma]

i mean 5600MT/s is about as slow as it gets but its not a bad ram kit

[twin dew]

So the most basic kit with just JEDEC timings on it.
Even when there are then XMP and EXPO profiles too at exact same settings.

5600MT/s 46-45-45 @ 1.1V.

[visual tree]

https://youtube.com/shorts/YM1VRR8VYMw

We should tell Elon to use Clawdbot so we can ruin his career with prompt injection

[twin dew]

Basically if the RAM market situation was anything like normal, I would tell you to look for something better, as that is bottom of the barrel.
But in this case, go for it, anything above will probably cost way too much extra.

[night girder]

I thinkl they said they get freem ram from a friend or something 🤷‍♂️

[night girder]

yup.

[tall forum]

guess what

[night girder]

he is no longer your friend? 😄

[tall forum]

he has a lot of ram but its a lot of 4gb ram 💔

my setup only has 2 ram slots

[twin dew]

So not DDR5 at all.

As 8GB is the smallest DDR5 sticks that exist.

[tall forum]

i dont know type or brand

just that its 4gb and he stole it from school

[night girder]

#off-topic-tech message

[pure karma]

2013 HDD nice

[night girder]

I also receive a lot of free "laptops" and old PC's.

[tall forum]

this storage Crucial P510 W/Heatsink 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

idk what storage is good

[night girder]

Mostly because they don't want to bring it to a drop off point. So cheaper and less effort to give it to me.

Now I sit here with all the goddam useless crap 🤣

I am using Lexar 790.

[tall forum]

im getting another job rn so i can save for my pc

[tall forum]

what is that?

[pure karma]

IT SPINS

sounds really good actually dang

[tall forum]

you have a 2013 hdd?

[night girder]

Someone recommended it to me here.
They said it's cheaper. And it's good.
I was sold. And so far so good.

[pure karma]

just snipped a working 500GB HDD from 2013

for free

[tall forum]

this will be my first windows computer 😭

[night girder]

Performance:

[tall forum]

is that german

[pure karma]

60K

[night girder]

It is, but shouldn't matter for test results 😉

If interested in review: tweakers.net/reviews/12236/lexar-nm790-quicktest-hoge-snelheid-lage-prijs.html (you can use google translate to translate webpage).

[tall forum]

i cant understand what you sent even if it was in english 😭

[pure karma]

price to performance of SSD's i think

anyway nice drive snipe ig

i cant seem to boot the windows install on it but it has a Windwos 10 install on it

[night girder]

how much does it cost for you? Local to your country 😊

[pure karma]

47 years of trying to open the windows folder later....

you know what it is

its probably transfering user ownership of every single file in the windows folder

[tall forum]

I believe 200-300 aud

[dawn stratus]

the subtle shift to USB C in the image is probably why it looks so good. i doubt i care about 2mm

[glossy glacier]

SMR goes b...r....r.....r.....r...

[dire igloo]

There are NM790 and NQ790 and while they do share some configs, they're two distinctly different drives

[dire igloo]

Dutch

[night girder]

I fucked up. Sorry. NM790 is correct.

Issue is, my GPU is so thick, I only see 790 🤣

[pure karma]

familiar site we meet again hehe

[dire igloo]

checked aussie SSD market
to say the least, it's fucked (but let's be honest, what market isn't?)

anyways, my recs for high-ish end 2TB NVMe for you are PNY CS2340 and Biwin NV7400, both using the same or equivalent configs as NM790
$330 and $340 respectively according to PCPP

[pure karma]

did youtube just go down?

nothing at all is loading other than subscriptions even if i disable adblock

[night girder]

still working here

[pure karma]

odd

broken on chrome too

[night girder]

Oh right, I am still watching a video though.

[pure karma]

i bet 69 cents it was caused by ai

yea i was just watching the GN video and everything just broke

[night girder]

So something is wrong I guess.

[pure karma]

seems to only be the home page

videos and search work

[night girder]

😅

    "message": "Internal error encountered.",
    "domain": "global",
    "reason": "backendError"

[pure karma]

fun

[tall forum]

i dont have the money right now

[bronze jasper]

i been watching youtubes all day

[soft bloom]

I ran release-upgrade and now ubuntu boots into "something went wrong" screen 🙁

[mental oriole]

Rip 🙁

[sharp matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYe9DSPuCaE

who would have guessed

[mental oriole]

More like who didnt see it coming.

[night girder]

No way, so that means the zillion books, tv-shows, movies from 60s till now weren't complete bonkers?

[hushed pulsar]

What is the best budget 1440p Nvidia gpu for satisfactory?

[wanton orchid]

the best gpu isn't Nvidia

[slow flint]

Really depends on what your budget is
$300, $600, $900?
Also your region and if you're willing to go used or just want brand new

[hushed pulsar]

U.S. , $300-ish, and I'm fine with used

[dire igloo]

what makes you request Nvidia specifically over the likes of AMD and Intel?

[slow flint]

Yeah a new B580 is $469 AUD rn so easily within your budget when converted to USD

[hushed pulsar]

I'm more familiar with Nvidia, GeForce is great, and I can actually understand the numbering scheme. Tbh, I just don't want to mess with AMD. Intel looks promising, but I think I'll wait another generation or so and see some stability.

[slow flint]

From what I've seen Intel GPUs are pretty stable now
And AMD stuff is very stable
The 9000 series from AMD has been more stable than the 40 and 50 series which had major driver and stability issues for a while
Ironed out now but took a while

[dire igloo]

wdym "GeForce is great"?
you mean their software utility?

[left trellis]

40 series on the 566.36 driver been rock solid

[dire igloo]

rest is basically just you being unfamiliar with what is objectively the better choice

[hushed pulsar]

My GTX 1650 has been struggling with satisfactory, lol

[dire igloo]

a pre-Covid GPU that wasn't meant to be good back then struggles to perform well in 2025?
not surprised

[hushed pulsar]

fair point. IG, I can just understand Nvidia enough to compare performance.

[slow flint]

With AMD GPUs the only gens that are relevant are the
6000, 7000 and 9000 series
8000 series they skipped

Bigger number in the same series is usually better
And like how Nvidia has TI and Super variants, AMD has XT and XTX cards
More letters = better is the basic rundown

Modern AMD card naming is very similar to Nvidia

[dire igloo]

you mean their numbering scheme?
as in you can estimate 2080 vs 4060 Ti but not 9060xt vs 6800xt?

[hushed pulsar]

I'm not trying to be ignorant of AMD or Intel, I just haven't researched them enough to reliably know anything

[hushed pulsar]

sorta yeah

[dire igloo]

you don't need to, that's why you asked for advice, right?

[hushed pulsar]

yes, I just haven't even considered them

[slow flint]

Really you don't need to understand the naming conventions if you just look at benchmark results

I would suggest looking at videos by Gamers Nexus or Hardware Unboxed

[hushed pulsar]

What range GPU would get me what I need for great graphics in satisfactory?

[slow flint]

$300 USD you're not gonna get much
Probably get good 1080p graphics and maybe alright 1440p

Its hard to say as people don't benchmark Satisfactory

An Intel B580 would fit in your budget
A 9060XT would be a little over but a good option

Otherwise go used market