off-topic-tech

[midnight osprey]

like I have to reboot my PC if playing a game that uses all my resources

[night girder]

I remember now, it was steam cloud thing. I forgot what game, but it was uploading pretty giant saves to the cloud (multiple) and it could take a while.
At that time, the game in steam remained "running". Not sure if that helps.

[jagged snow]

Yeah, for a lot of games that have even remotely large save files I just disable steam sync

And I run periodic backups to my nas

I would love for steam to have the ability to replace the automatic cloud sync with an automatic sync to a drive of your choosing

[thin trout]

7200 is about as fast, yeah. But 7200c34 RAM is simply better than 6000 30. It's timing equivelant to ~6000 cl28, but also rated for higher speeds. The worst case is that you input about 5 settings and it's functionally equivelant to a 6000cl28 kit.

It's also often cheaper at the moment because most buyers don't know that it's strictly better, a lot are thinking it's 7200 so it doesn't "fit" and would be a bad kit.

[dire igloo]

I've sat through enough advice sessions that "input about 5 settings" is too much to be considered "set and forget"

[thin trout]

yes but they're written on the front of the box 😄

and nicely lined up on the first page of the bios

[dire igloo]

open BIOS, go to OC, enable memory profile, save and exit, done

Any more than that is too much to be telling people

[pure karma]

yep

anything more than XMP is beyond set and forget

[thin trout]

you can literally do that though

Just if you care about exactly what your RAM is doing, you can easily tell it to do whatever you want

[dire igloo]

That "if" doesn't apply to those advisees tho.
They want best performance, set and forget.

[thin trout]

So they use auto overclock profile and leave it at that. What's the problem?

[dire igloo]

I could do that.
But I'm far from able to help others with it

[dire igloo]

That was my question.
What's the best choice for set and forget?

[thin trout]

it depends a bit on your mobo and the memory configuration

is the real answer

[pure karma]

then its not a valid answer

[thin trout]

for something that works on every board and configuration you have to go down to about ddr5-4000

[pure karma]

if its anything more than check the box and forget its not idiot proof

[thin trout]

yeah, just use 6000 is not idiot proof. I help people pretty much every day asking why their 6000 isn't working, and it's usually because they did those dumb mistakes.

like, they don't understand the context that 2dpc is different from 1dpc, and 6000 one click OC is only appropriate for 1dpc

[pure karma]

i have 6400 and it sucks

if i drop the speed my performance and latency goes to shit

if i leave it my stability goes to shit

ddr5 is just not... good? for the lack of a better word

[dire igloo]

I want something that's a safe bet recommendation
Excludes 2dpc and barlyvrm

[dire igloo]

MagicZ moment

[thin trout]

7600 or 6000 for 1dpc 1rpc

5600 for 1dpc 2rpc

3600 for 2dpc anything

[pure karma]

wtf is 1dpoasdr is the answer that i want to give you and its the proof your delusional about this

[dire igloo]

1 DIMM per channel
1 rank per channel

[pure karma]

it still means nothing to me when explained like this

[dire igloo]

Do you know about single channel, dual channel, quad channel?

[pure karma]

yea

[dire igloo]

1dpc means that for every RAM channel on your platform, you use exactly one RAM stick
2dpc means two sticks per channel

[pure karma]

so i have 1dpc

[thin trout]

5600 for 1dpc 2rpc
3600 for 2dpc anything

Those latter 2 configs are all of the people asking why 6000 isn't working.

They either use 2rpc and have an awful mem controler + bios auto's (often old bios etc), or they have changed the memory configuration to 2dpc and they're trying to use a 6000 profile off of a stick sold in a 1dpc kit.

[dire igloo]

Ranks are an internal subdivision of the RAM sticks.
For DDR5, that basically means anything up to a 24gb module is single rank, anything high is dual rank.

More ranks means more space for storage chips means higher capacity - but also lower stability

[thin trout]

6000 is paradoxically the hardest speed to auto to in some circumstances, because it's the peak speed for auto uclk=memclk, so the peak uclk. If you go up OR down then the uclk drops and uclk-limited configs become more stable.

That's why we get DR kits which are stable at say 5600 or 6800, but not at 6000, under auto UCLK rule.

[dire igloo]

Most likely yes.
If you have a dual channel CPU with two RAM sticks in the proper slots, yes

[pure karma]

i mean i just have the traditional 2 sticks in a 4 slot board it dosent get much more simple than that

and from your explaination seemingly rank 1 chips

[dire igloo]

Could be a quad channel platform with forced 1dpc but those aren't really a thing in consumer tech

[soft bloom]

how likely it is to be able to repair wired headphones with right ear off? looks like cable just broke - that tiny thin cable bends too sharp in it's thin rubber cover

[jagged snow]

For wired headphones, quite likely

[soft bloom]

it's the side with micrphone.
looks like it had a terrible twist, since copper... I hope, shielding, is completely broken despite taking most of circumference
and there seems to be black cable, that just bends smoothly except in one place where I suspect it broke
and nearby there's a a white cable? but it's really thin, and is covered with copper wires, separately from a bunch of them I talked earlier

I am not sure what's that white core though. this side should carry micrphone and right ear. micrphone didn't work for some time already

[jagged snow]

My suggestion would be to purchase a replacement cable, open up the headphones, and solder the new cable directly in. I've done that successfully before. If the PCB isn't marked and the cable is still intact enough to do so, test for continuity from the jack to make sure you get the connections correct.

[soft bloom]

hmmm, continuity is a good test. that copeer mess coming from jack's side doesn't 'ring' to any of 4 contacts

[jagged snow]

There should be four wires, yes?

[soft bloom]

well that's the thing, I only can vaguely identify 3

[jagged snow]

Should be G+L+R+Mic

And they're usually different colors

I would strip the jacketing off an undamaged section of cable

[soft bloom]

I think I see black and dark-greenish for left side

fo the right there's obvious black, nearly broken white core that has copper strings around. and that copper mess with some traces of red inside (visible on photo

[jagged snow]

Yeah
I would cut the cable in an undamaged spot, strip the jacket and the four conductors, and identify them

Then open up the headset and solder on a replacement with the same connections

[soft bloom]

the 'speaker's are a bit tiny to open and solder something on them. but need to figure out a way to clean cable further indeed. rubber is quite elastic, doesn't cut easily

the gauge cut thingy didn't even leave a lasting mark

[tribal kraken]

oh the pain of soldering headset cables

[visual tree]

Fiber has finally arrived. Contractors are going to install manhole near the fence and dig trench in my yard 😄

I've been waiting since 1991 🥹

[tribal kraken]

My grid company is digging powerlines underground. They've been working along my commute for a couple of months now. About 10km distance, shuold make power delivery more stable, no small blackouts from snowy trees hitting air lines.

Just as replaced 2kWh of batteris in UPS 😄

[visual tree]

Ah, now I understand why you have solar panels 🙂

I am still waiting for solar panel permit from utility company...

Going to install 14 solar panels from Trina Solar (45O W) with optimizers and 5 kW huawei inverter

[night girder]

I have two options.

I buy now. I wait fews days praying for Black Friday Sales.

What you all think? (Last two days, nothing changes on the sales).

[cyan crescent]

So if i put a game into my 360 that ive never played on it before, will it download the update even after end of life or no?

[twin dew]

Probably not, as there shouldn't be anything to download it from anymore.

[visual tree]

My neighbours are going to be pissed for blocking the road because of fiber cable 😅

[night girder]

I think I will wait one more day maybe, the iGPU is holding on strong. Gaming and UE5 🤣

I am kinda impressed with what it can do in a pinch. I can't use some applications because they crash due the lack in GPU power.
Or they shitty programmed (open source programs like Material Maker struggles).

[pure karma]

I mean as long as you don’t crash any performance is enough

[night girder]

Right? 🤣 I am just happy that my system didn't crash for two days haha.

[pure karma]

euro problems

im pissed because the city keeps putting bike lanes in peoples driveways and tearing down all the roads everywhere in the process so getting to school is becoming increasingly difficult

the diffrence is that isent a one day inconvinience like you fiber install

[visual tree]

At least nobody complained so far. We have a crazy neighbour lady who prevented ISP from installing fiber distribution cabinet because it is ruining her view from the balcony....

She has been quiet recently though because ISP sued her for blocking construction for which city permits were obtained

Btw, contractors are almost finished

[glossy glacier]

Street workers managed to cut the fibre cable of our house two weeks ago
Repaired it on Monday

[pure karma]

i love underground cables because technically there more of a hassle here

its literally a game of would you rather

dig out cables in the frozen, rock solid dirt or fix wood poles all winter

[twin dew]

Point is that the underground cables shouldn't get damaged by anything other than errant backhoe drivers.

[pure karma]

the ice?

ground moves you know?

[twin dew]

Reason why the stuff is not freely there, but contained in protective layers.

That can take the forces.

[wanton orchid]

Also as for stitches
if they are not dumb it should not be a perfectly straight line

waving can take it way easier

[twin dew]

Need slack in the cable for movement.

[tribal kraken]

At least this area, power cables will get dug deep enough that normal winter ground frost wont reach them, 50-100cm or so. So the frost actually protecs them

[twin dew]

That too, outside of permafrost areas.
Where you then have the cable inside permanently frozen ground instead, when done right.

Or below that still.

[visual tree]

They installed 50mm HDPE pipes for now and fiber cable will be pulled later through the pipes which is the easier part

I started replacing corrugated pipes in the garden where camera cat6 cables run through with HDPE pipes since those pipes are really robust. They are designed to last 50 to 100 years and can withstand mechanical force

[jagged snow]

In my area we tend to bury internet cables at 1-2m and power cables as low 3m

With typically around .75m to 1m frost depth

Although with a very mild winter it can be as low as .25m but that is very rare

[visual tree]

Telco infrastructure is usually 1 meter deep here and cables that go through people's garden is burried 30 or 40 cm deep

Now they just need to run fiber from street distribution cabinet to my attic where splice box will be installed

Also, ISP owns a microtrencher which drastically reduces cost since you don't have to dig large trenches

An example

Basically, a blade cuts small trench and you insert microducts inside a trench

[tribal kraken]

Horizontal directional drill also removes need to open up roads. Or allow going under water areas

Thats how they prepared small river crossing here during sumner. Now they just pull the power line thru the pre installed tube

[visual tree]

Oh, you mean this?

ISP uses it to avoid digging roads like you mentioned

30 years ago, I don't think we even had missile bore or microtrenching technology

[tribal kraken]

Yes, but also on larger scale. My friend runs a company and have made some custom parts to their machines.

[twin dew]

Basically not digging by side of roads either, just in specific spots and use those for most of the route.

Basically only digging for turns or when max distance is reached.

[tribal kraken]

Sometimes hes taking the "horizontal" to the limits or over, this is 48 degree powerline to bottom of mine 😄

The rusted steel "A" support for the drill was made in our workshop for that project only. Unusual position

[dire igloo]

Got a new monitor and a new esports jersey

[tough owl]

reinvent the rules

[languid gulch]

decided to officially retire and replace my oculus CV1 instead of trying to save it

Quest 3S is a massive performance step up from it and is $250 rn

sadly they refused to make replacement cables for the CV1, so any replacements i could find were used and at least like $$40-50, with 0 warranty or guarantee it'd work. and idk if that was even the problem, but it'd have to be the first hardware step to fixing it.

so at the end of the day, i'd still have a decade old headset with dead headphones and a disintegrating strap after putting more money into it

[night girder]

Nice, didn't know you were in a esport team.

[dire igloo]

I've been doing background work with them for a few years now, but I'm not a competitive player.
You might've seen me talk about running twitch streams on my RDNA3 hardware encoder

[languid gulch]

idk why but i always think that Münster and München are the same city

[dire igloo]

I'm mainly running their Twitter account and most LoL streams

[dire igloo]

Mün__e_

[languid gulch]

yup 🤣

[dire igloo]

Funnier when people write Münster as Munster
Cuz that's a whole different city

[languid gulch]

i think it's because for some stupid reason in english we call it Munich, so when we see it in proper german it throws us off

[dire igloo]

Fair

Not as bad as Köln vs Cologne tho

[languid gulch]

and yea, both have umlauts on the first U

we kinda have a similar issue in the US, where we have the capitol (Washington DC) and the state on the west coast, Washington

[dire igloo]

Also that pesky country in eastern Europe

[languid gulch]

lil bit 🤣

"Stalin was from Georgia?!?!?"

[dire igloo]

Kansas City

[languid gulch]

my personal recent favorite is Macedonia

[night girder]

Oh I see.

[languid gulch]

Missouri's state code is MO because Michigan took MI

[dire igloo]

It was a condition for Greece to recognize North Macedonia as an independent country

Cuz Macedonia is a region that spans into greece

[languid gulch]

yup, i just love the diplomatic stupidity that happens when formal borders move around

[night girder]

I whish I was there when that discussion happened. Could be a family guy sketch 🤣

Two mayors arguing who can take MI 🤣 Or governors I guess?

[languid gulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-WO73Dh7rY

took place in Münster

[night girder]

Haha 🤣

[languid gulch]

if i had to guess it was whichever state was older

i do have to say, good luck trying to teach an american wherever Prussia used to be

also we rarely get Baltic & Balkan straight

[night girder]

I once saw a video LONG time ago, where people struggled naming how many states there are etc.

But the equivalent for here would be to ask how many countries there are in the EU 😉

[languid gulch]

in a blind test i'd 100% miss all the tiny city ones in europe like Andorra

[visual tree]

Breaking news: New continent Austria discovered

We used to joke about this in elementary school because people would mix Austria with Australia

[languid gulch]

"how'd you get to Australia without a passport?"

[night girder]

Austria is so weird for me, the word itself. Because it's not similar to the dutch word.

We call it "Oostenrijk" which is literal "east-empire".

[languid gulch]

what

it's SOUTH

[night girder]

Euh... what?

[languid gulch]

oh wait

🤣

[night girder]

Australia for example we call Australie.

But it's always a mindfuck to me, Austria... Austria???

[languid gulch]

yea, i'd say austria is more south of germany than east

[glossy glacier]

well, Austria was a bit bigger back in the days, especially eastwards

[visual tree]

I don't know how to bring Fireworker back to life if something happens to him but I at least know how to bring austrian back to life https://youtube.com/shorts/6hP-v6ZH228

Unless you can revive Fireworker with beer too

Fun fact: guy in the video is from Australia and he moved to Austria

[night girder]

Kinda funny, I think we gave up at some point naming countries.
America - Amerika
Canada - Canada
Australia - Australie
England - Engeland
China - China

I think it has to do with modern countries. Or maybe not 🤔

[dire igloo]

Why's he calling himself Austrian Kiwi if he's Australian?

[languid gulch]

ok i need a history lesson for a second

[visual tree]

Oh wait, maybe he is from New Zealand

[dire igloo]

Nah, unlikely.
I'd prefer percussive maintenance (CPR) or turning it off and on again (defibrillator)

[night girder]

Maybe wake up for a philosophical debate. 😉

[languid gulch]

i understand the Germanic "Frankreich" for France (just throw reich in front of a name of people), but why did Germany decide on Deutschland?

[night girder]

I don't get it either.

[visual tree]

If something happens to me, you can revive me with sausage and some italian cheese

[glossy glacier]

Land der Deutschen

[night girder]

Some countries have land other have reich/rijk/empire.

[dire igloo]

Just make some slightly wrong statements and draw some wildly wrong conclusions, that'll make me wanna correct you

[night girder]

FrankRIJK.
DuitsLAND.

Empire vs country.

[dire igloo]

Probably same etymology as Netherlands being referred to as Dutch

[night girder]

Zwitserland... Verenigd Koninkrijk (UK).
Nederland.

[languid gulch]

if Austria ever officially merged with Germany, would it change from Osterreich to Osterland?

[night girder]

It probably has to do with history, some were empires and some were just countries I guess.

But Spain had an empire at one point.

Maybe the countries themselves decided it? 🤣

[dire igloo]

Also a lot of -ia in English
Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Bosnia, Serbia, Mongolia, etc

And a lot of -stan in the middle east
Kazakhstan, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan

[languid gulch]

i'm wondering if it's an inside vs "outsider" thing. "-land" for germanic, "-reich" for non-german

[dire igloo]

Probably not cuz Land/Reich has no meanings and the Germans wouldn't want to drop their Deutsch

[glossy glacier]

oi, we already solved that question back in 1848
we decided we didn't want the Austrians

[night girder]

The old name was Germania. Then invaded by the roman empire.

[visual tree]

Btw, I found out Letterdief is actually Joost Klein in disguise

[dire igloo]

Then some guy from Austria decided to make Germany great again

[night girder]

Cuyar, you got me interested now.

[languid gulch]

in 1848 the US decided that half of mexico was ours 🤣

[night girder]

Because it should be a rijk/empire.

[languid gulch]

i can only apologize for the fresh new black hole to disappear down 🤣

[ivory rampart]

when are we re uniting the holy roman empire?

[night girder]

EU is an empire 🤣 That's the new holy roman empire.

[dire igloo]

A lot of Slavic countries have the -land suffix in German:
Estland, Russland, Lettland, Finnland

[languid gulch]

whenever the pope can get Chicago in on it 😛

[ivory rampart]

its not the holy roman empire if it has the french 😭

[night girder]

It is in modern days

[dire igloo]

There is no actual correlation

[night girder]

I wouldn't say no correlation so quickly.

[dire igloo]

Also:
Deutsches Kaiserreich

[ivory rampart]

no, then its just europe

[glossy glacier]

-reich implies a kingdom
-land just a place

[ivory rampart]

not the same thing

[night girder]

More empire afaik.

[dire igloo]

The correlation that was postulated doesn't exist, at least not in the way that was postulated

[languid gulch]

i wonder if it's just a cultural thing & not a historical or linguistic thing. make an exception to get the locals to agree to be a part of a new territory without a fight

[dire igloo]

Most likely that, yeah

Just whatever feels right to say in that native language

[night girder]

Officialy it's Federal Republic of Germany.

[visual tree]

I would agree for Japan to annex us without a fight

[languid gulch]

i have ancestry in Alsace Lorraine, so looking up historical information there is always........interesting

[dire igloo]

We Germans probably didn't like the word "reich" after some Austrian made us famous for it in the 1930s

[night girder]

I was thinking the same, but didn't want to say it haha 🙈

[languid gulch]

"German-speaking Frenchies, or French-speaking Germans?"

[dire igloo]

Bundesrepublik Deutschland

[dire igloo]

I call it Elsass-Lothringen

[dire igloo]

Yes.

[night girder]

We at one point had cops and we called them "Rijkswacht" "Guards of the empire". So Belgium was an empire at one point

[languid gulch]

that, but also with germany mostly de-royalizing, calling it a reich doesn't make much sense

[night girder]

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rijkswacht

[languid gulch]

at least to me

[glossy glacier]

apaprently Deutsch evolved from latin "theudo" ("the people").
as we were mostly connected by our language back then it probably became something like "land der deutsch sprechenden" ("Country of the german speaking")
-> Deutsch(es) Land -> Deutschland

[dire igloo]

Yeah. Plus, "land" sounds like it's more about the people than the politics

[night girder]

Maybe it just has to do with how it sounds?

Francland sounds weird maybe? Francdom too? So france it is?

[languid gulch]

ever heard of Texas German?

[dire igloo]

Ah, so it's etymologically related to Teutoburger Wald

[night girder]

Yes. Wtf is that.

[dire igloo]

Frankenland

[languid gulch]

🤣

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_dH403pqRU

[dire igloo]

Which ironically is a nickname given to the region of Franken which is in southern Germany

[night girder]

And Amish, they also use german I think? Or like a mix of ...

[languid gulch]

german & yiddish

[night girder]

Yeah, crazy stuff 🤣 I heard it once.

[glossy glacier]

thats a region in germany

[languid gulch]

ok making that distinction is understandable

Frankenland probably got the name first 🤣

[dire igloo]

Sounds a lot like my local dialect

[night girder]

Haha, a mix of who has what and how it sounds I guess.

And what the country calls itself.

Duitsland and Germany are very different though.

[languid gulch]

and who wants to redo all the paperwork

[dire igloo]

"simmer" instead of "sind wir" or "hammse" instead of "haben sie"

[languid gulch]

is it an "older" version of german?

(obviously with that classic Texas twang)

[dire igloo]

Not really, I can understand it perfectly except for the english bits

[night girder]

🤣

[visual tree]

When I was in high school, we shared the building with students who decided to become plumbers. We always called their school "Texas" because it was full of insane delinquents who only brought trouble and teachers couldn't establish any order lol

[dire igloo]

It sounds very regionalized tho, seems to originate from Northwest Germany

[glossy glacier]

basically if the country evolved from some kind of empire-like structure, it's a -reich. if it evolved from a shared culture it's probably a -land
evberything else gets it's own word

[night girder]

Speaking a mix of languages is pretty evil imo

my brain is never prepared for two languages and then for every word, you gotta switch between languages.

on top of that you sometimes have accents, slang, etc.

[dire igloo]

Oh yeah and a lot of the common mistakes that english speakers make when learning German as a second language.
Like messing up the articles in gendered words

[night girder]

Between Belgium and the Netherlands, there are common words that mean totally different things.
Poepen - To take a 💩
Poepen - To have sex.

[dire igloo]

Which is funny cuz the German portion of what she's saying is definitely a dialect of sorts, just one that happens to be quite familiar to me

[languid gulch]

ok what the hell happened there to have 2 cultures decide to have that kind of split

[languid gulch]

so it sounds more north west german than from anywhere else?

[dire igloo]

🇳🇱 huur - rent
🇩🇪 Hure - whore

[night girder]

Yup.

[languid gulch]

makes sense since i think a lot of german immigrants here were from there

[dire igloo]

English "poop" vs German "poppen"

[night girder]

🇳🇱 Hoer - whore.

not that far from "hure"

replace the U with an O and then move the E infront of the R 🤣

[dire igloo]

If I heard her talk at a family gathering, I'd have no doubt that she's from somewhere in Westphalia

Well, except for the English

"Hammse" and "simmer" are very distinct

[languid gulch]

just wild that someone decided to slam not just german and english together, but 2 very distinct regional dialects of the 2 together

[night girder]

Who thinks of putting german and yiddish together ...

[languid gulch]

she's clearly speaking german to me, but with a very strong Texas accent, even compared to people/celebs known for being Texans

[night girder]

Languages have a life of their own. Getting influenced by multiple factors over time. You get crazy stuff.

[dire igloo]

Des isch a mischmasch aus mehrere dialegde

[languid gulch]

then there's the german that sounds British English to me 🤣

[dire igloo]

Have y'all heard Plattdeutsch?
It's not even a German accent or dialect, it's a whole different language

[night girder]

flatgerman?

[languid gulch]

it's mostly the AR/ER at the end of a word that's more of a "aah/eeh". american english definitely reads that as ARR/ERR

[languid gulch]

i've heard a fair amount of Schwiizertüütsch

had 3 university professors from Switzerland 🤣

[glossy glacier]

dialects can get crazy

[languid gulch]

it's crazy how a language like german can branch out like that in not too long of a time

and not too large of an area

[night girder]

"Proto-Germanic itself was likely spoken after c. 500 BC"

[dire igloo]

Germanic "windauge" (wind eye) → English "window"
Latin "fenestra" → German "Fenster" (window)

[night girder]

The proces has been going on for a long time afaik.

[dire igloo]

I love how we gave up our word for window to the Brits and adapted our own from the Romans

[night girder]

From the time of their earliest attestation, the Germanic varieties are divided into three groups: West, East, and North Germanic. Their exact relation is difficult to determine from the sparse evidence of runic inscriptions.

[dire igloo]

England has its name from the Anglo-Saxons

[languid gulch]

huh. i thought that the split was a lot more recent than that

[night girder]

So all germanic languages are rooted in the same.

[night girder]

Nah, it all just keeps evolving. Like Belgium is fairly new country.

So that split created our own language who branched from dutch in the Netherlands. Mixed with german and french.

[languid gulch]

ahhhh maybe i'm thinking of belgian

lol. belgian, the swahili of europe 🤣

[night girder]

Flemish 🙂

[languid gulch]

oh brain fart

[night girder]

np! 😄 It's a tricky one.

I would 100% make the same mistake.

[languid gulch]

people vs language

what's dumb is i knew it

[night girder]

I don't get it why we call it like that.

[dire igloo]

Luxembourgish also fun

[languid gulch]

especially since Belgian sounds so much nicer than Flemish, just as words

phlegm is something you hork up

[dire igloo]

I like the sound of the word "flämisch" more than "belgisch" ngl

[languid gulch]

ok you're just making that up

[dire igloo]

Nope, real language

Sits quite close to Flemish it seems

[languid gulch]

with the -isch, definitely

[night girder]

We (northern part) speak "Nederlands" - which translates to Dutch. But we also speak "Vlaams" which translates to "Flemish".

But if we say Dutch, then people think of the Netherlands. So Flemish it is.

Down south they speak French or "Waals". In Brussels they speak both.

Somewhere to the SE we have a tiny german speaking part.

[languid gulch]

i'd prefer calling it Flemish over Flemian 🤣

OMG Flemish in Spanish is flamenco

[night girder]

🤣

We speak flamenco.

[languid gulch]

ok i LOVE that

might just be my proximity to mexico

but i'd love to see that be the official name

and it makes sense with the ned/spa relationship

[night girder]

More like invaded I believe 🤣

[dire igloo]

Funfact: NL independence from Spain was negotiated and decided as part of the Westphalian peace treaty signed in Münster

[languid gulch]

just call it a "merger"

[night girder]

But yeah, there are lots of connection to Spain in Europe.

That's why EU (the continent) is kinda fascinating. So many "marks" left by "visitors".

[dire igloo]

And the NL ambassadors arrived in a horse carriage with four horses which was reserved for delegations of independent states (which at the time they were not)

[night girder]

Spain is the reason we exist 🤣 The Netherlands didn't want to leave/epart/revolt against Spain. So we rebelled and left the Netherlands.

[dire igloo]

Ireland also has a lot of Spanish influence in the southwest actually.
There are Spanish ornaments on portside buildings in Dingle for example

[night girder]

But because we were weak as a province (Vlaanderen).

We found partners from France and Germany.

[languid gulch]

spanish bridge in Galway 🤣

[night girder]

That's why we speak 3 languages.

So we are just a mix of 3 parts of those countries, because we were pissed off and left.

[dire igloo]

Cuz instead of trading through Britain and France, they could just trade with Spain

[languid gulch]

i do like that since so much of it happened a long time ago, it can be talked about without starting a bar fight

the most intense it gets is in a football match, and that's about it

[night girder]

My opinion; those times aren't now.

Every country has so many nice people.

[dire igloo]

What does a Dutchman do after the Netherlands win the world cup?
Turn off EAFC and touch grass

[languid gulch]

🤣

btw, it was kinda crazy seeing an NFL game in Madrid

[night girder]

Spain conquered all to here.

From here to UK is not far. You can see it on a good day.

So not surprising at all tbh.

Mongol empire was also pretty big btw.

[dire igloo]

Reminded me of the Doggerland video by Miniminuteman, very interesting

[languid gulch]

i live in a bowl. can't see shit

[night girder]

This is France, but this part is very close

[languid gulch]

our only major geographical features are a mountain that looks like a camel, and another mountain that twice a year puts the shadow of a puma on itself

[night girder]

ngl, sounds cool 😛

We got flat surface to offer. Grass. Sand. Trees.

But no mountains 🙁

[dire igloo]

I was surprised to see Scottish islands when I was visiting Glenariff Forest Park in Northern Ireland

[languid gulch]

Camelback Mountain

[night girder]

Good climb?

[languid gulch]

not too bad

way too many stupid people who need rescuing

[night girder]

would 100% want to hike it 🤣

[languid gulch]

we have geniuses who'll start out at like 10am there with no water in the middle of July

when it's already 45C

[night girder]

Yeah, no.

[languid gulch]

400m summit

[night girder]

I guess it's best to do it early in the morning?

[languid gulch]

best to do it in the winter

[night girder]

And that too 🤣

[languid gulch]

the low here in the summer is ~30C

[night girder]

doesn't cool down at night?

[languid gulch]

not really

the built-up area of the valley is around 40,000km2

massive heat island

we're #1 in the world for mountain rescues

teams from the Himalayas come here to train

[night girder]

On camelback mountain?

[languid gulch]

the mountains all around us

[night girder]

Ah, because camelback doesn't look that bad, 825 m elevation

[languid gulch]

South Mountain, Superstitions, Estrellas, White Tanks

[night girder]

Ok, when it comes to the names. Weak start. But the rest are good 🤣

[languid gulch]

🤣

South Mountain is the largest city park in the world

but yea, there's usually at least 1 helicopter rescue a week between those areas

almost daily in the summer months

[languid gulch]

there's a mountain NE of the valley called Four Peaks. guess why

[night girder]

Ok, all this talk makes me want to hike again. Was thinking of visiting Bastogne. To see historical sights of the Battle of the Bulge.

Also wanted to do it in the cold months, to feel how it is.

[languid gulch]

my great uncle fought there

howitzer operator

[night girder]

Do I say, thank him for his service?

[languid gulch]

was about to mention, US side 🤣

[night girder]

What company was he in?

I only mostly know of D company ofc.

[languid gulch]

oof. can't remember. i know he landed 2 weeks after D-Day

this might be an insult, but maybe it exists somewhere in germany if you ever wanted to try it

[night girder]

No.

With all these tarrifs

[languid gulch]

ah good point

[night girder]

fucking sucks!

[languid gulch]

also god knows what it's like compared to the local stuff

[night girder]

can't we just go back to the good old days 🤣

[languid gulch]

yes please

[night girder]

There are so many countries with good beer.

[languid gulch]

good beer, good bread

throw in something local and fresh

[night girder]

The same that French wine is also a bit "overrated". In the sense you got alternatives from different countries really compteting.

[languid gulch]

i love how so many blind taste tests can't determine what wine is from where

[night girder]

yup, probably the same with beer.

You got 💩 beer. And good beer. And some stuff in between 🤣

No matter where it is from.

[languid gulch]

unless it's super regional with a blatantly specific taste, yea

something like Guinness

[night girder]

Yeah, thats one thing, the local grains can impact it.

But with global economy.

Yeah, we got a few strong beers here.

[languid gulch]

the only super specific stuff we have here probably wouldn't sell well anywhere else

[night girder]

My favorite one.

[languid gulch]

mainly because of the names

[night girder]

brewed here

[languid gulch]

what a dump

😛

[night girder]

hard to get. Low production.

[languid gulch]

horribly outdated, in desperate need of roof repair

[night girder]

Looks clean to me.

Ignore the statues 🤣

[languid gulch]

yea, that's just really upsetting from an american viewpoint. wish we had that stuff here

[night girder]

Eh, it comes with a history too ofc.

[languid gulch]

true

[night girder]

Might be the best thing we got out of it 🤣

[languid gulch]

but also from my view, i'm jealous of the greenery

we get about 8cm of rain a year on a wet year

[night girder]

Yeah, we got lots of grass. But it's getting harder to maintain, country wide. Lots of years with heat waves. And no water in the ground.

[languid gulch]

this last year killed off a ton of pine & palm trees here

[night girder]

Fire?

[languid gulch]

drought

and heat

[night girder]

Ok, yeah, could turn into fire. Good nobody got hurt or lost property.

[languid gulch]

there was a big fire up at the Grand Canyon this year, destroyed the old cabin grounds sadly

~100 years old

but we're also a big state, canyon's off in the corner

[night girder]

Sucks to hear. I don't think it's going to get any better anytime soon.
Heard recently on a podcast there is +- a 30 year delay with climate change. So the changes we see now are the consequences of 30 years ago.

[languid gulch]

yea, i worry about what we're going to see with the acceleration

[night girder]

It's going to get worse. Because of the 30 year delay.

If we stop change. It takes 30 years to catch up.

It was regarding why we shouldn't stop our efforts, because there is no quick gain, we have to wait a long time to reap the fruits of our labor.

[languid gulch]

i'm just hoping that we can set up enough renewable to start making atmospheric carbon capture plants

[night girder]

we got so much work to do

and at this stage I still believe we also need keep our minds open into investing in transition energy sources (something between fossil -> full green energy).
Like Nuclear.

[languid gulch]

oh definitely

ME WANT LFTR

[night girder]

Because I hear a lot of negativity around it lately, but it's really not that black and white.

Ideally, yes we should get rid of it. But we can't just go from 0 to 1.

I am still jalous of China.

Nuclear Fusion plant.

[languid gulch]

i mean, harnessable to the grid fusion is still a ways off

but yes, throw everything at the wall and see what sticks

[night girder]

You wont get there if you don't take the first step. Like they did.

[languid gulch]

yup

we're getting there tho. quite a few ways to do it

[night girder]

But green energy is only one part of the solution*.

We still got to reduce global emmision.

[languid gulch]

i kinda like the canadian one that's like a giant fusion combustion engine

oh definitely, it's not just scaling up with renewables, but also scaling down petroleum

[night girder]

you got EV?

[languid gulch]

yup

[night girder]

Happy with it?

[languid gulch]

for what i use it for, it's the best car i've ever had

[night girder]

Was just reading so many negative comments under an article about EV and the rise in prices.

[languid gulch]

i mean, yes, for those people

but for me, i feel like i stole it

[night girder]

Well, it's more they believe EV will fail.

Because recently, in the Netherlands, the price to charge increased.

[languid gulch]

so long as it's cheaper per mile than petrol/diesel, it wins

[night girder]

But it also just feel they are more emotional than rational.

Their arguing there is no transparancy. And no regulation. So people wont switch to EV.

[languid gulch]

the one thing that's really holding people back from buying is the slow charge rate, even from DCFC

it needs to build up the distance as fast as filling up with petrol

that's really the only way "range anxiety" will go away

i have a relative that drives 40km one-way to work every day, and my car would still be able to keep up with overnight charging. but she has 0 interest in an EV

[night girder]

I wonder why.

[languid gulch]

BS "range anxiety"

[night girder]

I think some people use that as an excuse 😛

[languid gulch]

it's almost completely made-up

it functionally doesn't exist in >95% of cases

[night girder]

Maybe people don't like change. Or the looks.

I do think range might be an issue over here. We don't have recharge points everywhere yet.

[languid gulch]

my EV had some fire issues early on that gave it a bad reputation, but it was solved

[night girder]

So depending on where you go, you might want to prepare beforehand.

[languid gulch]

also there's still a ton of garbage charging cables being sold that'll burn that turn people off

[night girder]

and people cutting them for copper.

was on the news 🤣

[languid gulch]

we have people getting electrocuted doing that with street lights

[night girder]

Imagine wanting to go to work and your car isn't charged lol

[languid gulch]

around here we have the stupid massive trucks, and their issue is that it's easy to crawl under with a sawzall and chop out the catalytic converter to sell for cash

[night girder]

Yup

Saw it in YT video. Some ...euhm... you know some with a particular color of neck that tunes and drives cars 🤣

Amazing dude btw.

[languid gulch]

i'm lucky, my EV "experience" is about as easy as it can be. detached house, closed garage, had enough room on the main panel to add in 2x 240V/60A breakers for it, and short runs for them

[night girder]

Yeah, I mean. It are horror stories.

But there must be reason why people don't switch. I have mine. But those are pretty unique.

[languid gulch]

my dad was a bit skeptical

until i took him for a ride

i didn't even floor it

[night girder]

haha 🤣

[languid gulch]

if i wanted to, 0-100kph in 6.5

[night girder]

I can't get over the "no-sound". But I am into cars 🤣

[languid gulch]

it matches his teenage years Camaro Z28

[night girder]

Yeah, they go quick.

[languid gulch]

the weird one for me was getting used to no shifting

[night girder]

Wont deny that 😛

[visual tree]

Where is my westvleteren 12 crate?

[languid gulch]

oh, i also think that people who "hate" EVs have only experienced the Tesla one pedal driving

[night girder]

If you ever visit here, I will prepare a beer for you, I keep the crate though 😛

[visual tree]

I wanted to visit Amsterdam but I highly doubt we would take a car. Most likely a bus

[night girder]

Or train?

[visual tree]

But I could buy a few bottles though if I visit Belgium

[visual tree]

I already have enough trauma from local train 🤣

[languid gulch]

my dad's told us the story about how his friend bought a Lincoln Continental because you could undo 2 screws in the rear armrest, and it'd open up a cavity where you could fit 24 bottles IN EACH SIDE without seeing it in the back seat or the boot

[soft bloom]

repair is not going anywhere
and the sapre headphones somehow have this weird contact problem where I need to actively slightly push connector to make it sound stereo, except for some lucky times when it stays on it's own

oh no

it is problem on jack's side... moving cable around does the same thing

bruh I didn't even use them as much

[visual tree]

I remember drinking Leffe as a 18 year old kid but didn't like it. Perhaps my taste perceptors weren't fully developed back then 😄

[languid gulch]

it was the famous Continental too, with the suicide doors from The Matrix

absolutely gigantic, but god that's a sexy car

[night girder]

Leffe is eh. More like casual beer to me 😛

[visual tree]

It's like when I mention czech beers I drink to Maxeek and he wants to vommit

[night girder]

Maybe you don't deserve our beer.

I will tell the monks to not sell you any.

🤣

[visual tree]

Local brewery here ruined several czech beers by adding 20% more water....

[night girder]

blasphemy.

if that happens here, we end up with a civil war 🤣

[visual tree]

I remember several czech beers which were directly imported from Czech Republic and they were decent....until local brewery got rights to refill them here

[night girder]

but don't you have local beers?

Like stuff made with love?

[visual tree]

Yes, there was an explosion of craft breweries 5 years ago

[night girder]

Niice! That's the stuff.

[visual tree]

Much better than industrial crap

[night girder]

Yeah, I think so too.

[visual tree]

Need to burn down Heineken brewery here

[night girder]

I agree btw.

and EV cars wont look that ever because no grill 😭

[visual tree]

I hate when I bought some decent czech beer for my colleagues at work and they still wanted that Heineken crap

[night girder]

Eh, cheaper to pour down I guess.

[visual tree]

I paid for the beer so it didn't really matter

Like, I find you decent beer but you still want garbage 😭

[night girder]

We use Duvel (Devil) to knock someone out. 8.5% 🙈

It has a tarnado in the middle because of the scratches in the glass (done on purpose).

[visual tree]

I bought Absinthe once and drank the shot without diluting it first. Felt like drinking sulfuric acid

[night girder]

Haha 🤣

I had the black one once.

[visual tree]

I had the green one

[night girder]

I don't think it's legal anymore 🤣

[visual tree]

Looks like they pulled it from the grocery store here too and you can only buy it from specialized alcohol store

[night girder]

think Vincent van Gogh cut his ear off because he was drinking the stuff.

[visual tree]

The original version made people hallucinate but that version has been banned long time ago

[visual tree]

Correction: the cheap version from 19th century had additives which made you hallucinate

[languid gulch]

i did discover what classic looks like a current EV

the groovy Corvair

[night girder]

yup

[languid gulch]

Messerschmitt in the rear

[night girder]

that is a good candidate to turn into an EV btw.

[languid gulch]

yea, resurrect that body style

[night girder]

few companies who do that.

turn oldtimers into EV's.

[languid gulch]

oh i thought you meant bringing it back

yea we have a few conversion companies here

it's always weirded me out that those conversions that just bolt up to the old transmission don't shift

[night girder]

sleeper evs 🤣

[languid gulch]

that's what i like about mine, it doesn't have an EV look

if you look at it close, then yea, you see the gas door is on the front fender & it's not for gas

most boring lookin' ass commuter in the world, and it'll outrun a camaro

if i still had my ancient pickup i'd definitely be looking at converting it

range would have been absolutely dogshit tho, it was 3 tons empty

[pure karma]

i think most people like older cars

[languid gulch]

i feel like early 2000s was peak for cars in reliability and styling, at least in the US

[pure karma]

helll nahhhh

screw that rounded ugly soccer mom era

[languid gulch]

🤣

eh, depends

my car before this one was the 03 civic, and the visibility in it was insane compared to cars made today

plus i could push 50mpg in it

[pure karma]

i want to rip my eyes out looking at that jelly bean

[languid gulch]

i did once have dreams of making it into one of the fun ones

the only thing i ever needed to replace on it were the radiator hoses

it didn't weigh enough to wear the shocks, even after 20 years 🤣

and you could scream at 70kph in first

[pure karma]

i like the sporty look of the old days

i like stuff like the bolide in beamNG

old but still looks new

[languid gulch]

the first family car i remember was our 1984 Chevy Celebrity wagon

3.1l V6

[pure karma]

see thats the thing

id rather walk than drive that

[languid gulch]

🤣

yea but we'd take it on 5000km+ road trips

[pure karma]

i bet it still sucked like modern cars do

[languid gulch]

it was actually great

never broke down

it had those old full width bench seats all the way across

and the reverse 3rd row

for being a mid-80s american car, it was shockingly decent

every once in a while i'll see a Mercedes wagon near where i live

for some reason a german wagon just looks weird to me

[night girder]

the fake grill 🤮

[languid gulch]

i was more looking at the back end

[night girder]

also.

like a bend sausage on wheels.

[languid gulch]

even with the extra cabin space, still managed to make it look like a banana

that curve down in the back is just unforgivable

[night girder]

just looks too long imo.

[languid gulch]

it looks melted

[pure karma]

theres actually quite a few classic that i see around still driving

[night girder]

meanwhile bmw 🤣

[languid gulch]

we're super spoiled with classics here. nothing rusts

[pure karma]

there obviously a less than 1% ocasion but like most people atleast know of 1 person that has some kind of old car

[languid gulch]

one of my neighbors has a roadworthy Model A 🤣

[pure karma]

like my uncle got this camaro that he turned into a drag car as a summer project

i forgot how long they were honestly

[languid gulch]

and the ground clearance!

[night girder]

cool stuff

[languid gulch]

spotted this on the road a couple years ago

[pure karma]

the car or the ugly short busses?

[languid gulch]

lol

it's a Gremlin

to make the Ford Pinto feel better about itself

[night girder]

interesting design

[pure karma]

i dont hate that one as much because it looks like a old rally car

so i know it CAN look good

[languid gulch]

it looks ok for modern standards

back then it was horrific

[night girder]

that dog 🤣

[languid gulch]

all that and they still couldn't bring themselves to do FWD

[languid gulch]

now you've got me going thru my phone

classic turned into a legend

i did say that things don't rust around here

i'm always the one driving when i see one of them, but there are 2 VW Things/181s that are near me. one's purple and the other is lime green

[languid gulch]

ok, dumb question time

about active USB/hdmi/DP

do they make an active "union" adapter for any of those, to be used between 2 passive cables

or do the active versions of those cables have something else going on inside them

[thin trout]

a passive cable can't pass on some active signal

[languid gulch]

so what's extra inside an active cable vs passive?

[thin trout]

it depends on the cable, but for max power draw on USB they use an active processor inside of the cable to tell the device that higher currents are supported for power.

They allow communication for things like a phone for example which may want to charge itself to a specific battery % or at different rates

[languid gulch]

does the processor in the cable also amplify whatever signal is going thru it?

[thin trout]

it can do

[languid gulch]

i assume it uses some of that power boost to do that

as well as letting that power pass through

[thin trout]

simple processors can use very little power nowadays, but yes

[languid gulch]

got my new vr rig and am a bit weirded out by it

hence the questions 🤣

the weirdest part is the direct connection is USB-C

feels wrong to not be plugging right into my gpu

frickin 4090 and not using it for VR gaming

it can be wireless, but it has to go thru my router

was thinking about using a wacky USB extension thing to give it a bit more distance

[pure karma]

really any usb cable will do as long as it can hold the data transfer rate

power will come down to what headset

quest 2 will just drain its battery and handle filling the gaps and focus on data

something like a index will probably shit the bed

[languid gulch]

quest 3s, 18W

[pure karma]

then yea if its not supplied enough power it will just use its own battery so not much concern there

main concern for you will be data

and honestly wireless is only about a 100mbit connection so might be worth ditching cable if you can

atleast 100 is the default anyway

[languid gulch]

ok dumb question

my mobo has wifi 7 on it

could i somehow make my pc a hotspot and use it as my "direct connection" to my pc instead of going through my router?

router is 5G, and >15m away

[languid gulch]

ok, can confirm that works just fine 🤣

[languid gulch]

i was kinda worried that opening up a hotspot would disable my PC's internet connection for some reason

[soft bloom]

I found an interesting read
On academia press
There's a large report on research used for Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty for nuclear weapons from 1997
Topic of nuclear arsenal is a bit present on politics right now, though I ask not to bring politics here.
Interest rises from the fact that this is international cooperation involving seismology, data gathering and automated analysis. Including for earthquakes. It's not too in depth, but it brings up questions of what magnitude is needed to be detected worldwide for successful functioning of treaty, and what capabilities are present (at the moment), along some other interesting details like how to differentiate explosion from natural earthquake.
It is like almost 30 years old. But, even back then magnitude 4 worldwide wasn't an issue.

[twin dew]

Austria-Hungary / Austro-Hungarian Empire at start of WW1

And Germany only unified starting in 1866 and finishing around 1871.

Austrian Empire in 1815:

Also, Austrian Empire is the leftovers of the Holy Roman Empire, which included modern Germany.
Same ruling family (Habsburgs).
First Habsburg family King of Germany was Rudolf Habsburg I in 1273.

[languid gulch]

you'd think they'd update the terminology

[twin dew]

Changing names is HARD.

[night girder]

I don't think the GPU I want is going to be on sale 🙁

[tribal kraken]

Managed to live black week to this point, now ordered new TV/monitor

LG 55" C5 4K OLED evo TV (2025).

[night girder]

Yeah, I am not good at this shit. I think I might get one today 🤣

[dire igloo]

How much did you pay for it?

[tribal kraken]

1099€ Thats the Black week price for it on every finnish retailer

[dire igloo]

Oh damn, nice

I remember the C series costing 2000€+ before COVID

[tribal kraken]

Next step up like Samsung S95F with 165Hz panel would have been 600€ more

[dire igloo]

Bought my 55" C9 in summer of 2022, barely used for under 500€
Researched the release price, was like 2300€ or smth

[tribal kraken]

It will be my PC monitor

[dire igloo]

So basically the equivalent of four 27.5" FHD panels in a 2×2 arrangement

[tribal kraken]

Something like that, the current 65" on my desk is slightly too high to the upper part to be usable, would need to cut the desk and lower it.

And its VA panel

[twin dew]

From another channel:

[pure karma]

Lmao yep sounds about right

[violet valley]

how do i get it to have black bars instead

switch 1

[twin dew]

Somewhere in the monitor settings there should be option to change from the current "Fit" or whatever to "Scale" or similar.

The button menus.

"Scaling" or similar as the setting name.

But the exact place and name etc. depend on monitor type, so cannot give more in depth instructions without knowing the monitor model.

[twin dew]

But usually up to four options: One to just spread the image to fill whole area (what you have), one to scale up retaining the aspect ratio until first edges are hit (what you want), one to scale up retaining aspect ratio until whole screen is filled, cutting part off, and 1:1 in pixels, with black bars on all sides in some cases.

[visual tree]

Splice box has been installed. Fiber service should be active by the end of the year 😊

[dire igloo]

Love it

[soft bloom]

Specifically ai vibe coding.
Thought maybe better presented as mold/corruption slowly spreading on.everything, beginning with microsoft

[jagged snow]

New machine

And who says old hardware isn't usable

[sharp matrix]

I'm confused what does (as 2560x1440) mean?

[twin dew]

the resolution that the output to the monitor is.

[sharp matrix]

I get its a resolution, but why is two listed here?

[twin dew]

Two monitors

With 150% scale?

[sharp matrix]

Its probably what you say, 2560x1440 is the output but the gpu is rendering in 4k, seems like extra work for really nothing, so kind of weird

usually you want the render resolution match the output resolution, which is why i was confused why two would be listed

[mental oriole]

Aws should be on top of cloudflare...

[twin dew]

Other way, 4k monitor that is sent 2560x1440 output.
Like I said, probably intentional 150% scaling to make stuff bigger.

[sharp matrix]

Huh I thought it was 2560x1440 was the monitor, you think 4k is the monitor resolution, that seems like a even worse idea, because your resolution is going to lower than the monitor, thats going to reduce things like clarity, etc

[jagged snow]

Nope
Its the exact same as display scaling in windows

So it's still sending a signal at native resolution to the monitor but text and ui elements are sized like its the lower resolution

Because 4k at 27in is very very small

[twin dew]

Programs that are DPI aware get rendered in full resolution.
Programs that aren't DPI aware are lied to about the resolution and the bitmap final render is rescaled up.

Where those DPI aware programs rescale everything by the selected ratio themselves.

[jagged snow]

Not to worried about GPU performance on this system anyhow, essentially any display adapter would work

[sharp matrix]

Oh I see that, that makes sense, doesn't like a terrible idea than, because I was imagining trying to see blurry text, etc because it would be in a lower resoluton, which didn't seem great to me😅

[twin dew]

Better little blurry, than too small to see.

[night girder]

Thanks YT for AI generated 💩

All this money poured into AI, and it can attempt to sum up a video. Great value 🤣

[dire igloo]

I wonder how many horoscopes are being AI generated nowadays

[night girder]

You know what.

I think AI might be as accurate in that as humans.

Lately, I encounter more and more AI websites.

They are mostly white, with information about mostly anything since AI just generates crap.

It looks very structured, but once you look at the url and start connectinging the dots, it feels AI generated.

Could also just be bad designed websites 🤣

[dire igloo]

Any time I search for any surface level thing, I encounter a bunch of random sites with seemingly dictionary-generated URLs and texts that trigger my uncanny valley

[night girder]

I think this yeah.

[dire igloo]

My go-to trick for that:
If applicable, limit search results to pre-COVID
Should get rid of most AI generated slop

[night girder]

I miss pre-covid.

[pure karma]

i miss the start of covid

[soft bloom]

one has to love when API interprits off value same as on

like, life wouldn't be as interesting without these pranks

[rustic panther]

I have it on good authority that you have to use ai to code at ms or you get fired

Like you have to use github agents

[soft bloom]

oh but that's not all.
if you pass any other value then these two, it will say that it's invalid value, and that it only accepts, and I quote "on and null".
so off isn't even documented.

[pure karma]

let there be a collapse

[soft bloom]

but that's not all either.
if you pass empty string for that param,
it will be treated same as on again!
so the only way to disable that flag is to no not include it at all.

feels like someone vibecoded that shit

[night girder]

so value on, null isnt a value, off.

what cursed API you programing against?

[jagged snow]

That's terrible 💀

[soft bloom]

Hehe, it's british

[soft bloom]

yep
it allows field to be skipped, or get 'on', 'off' or '' (empty)
while skipped field is logical false, and both 'on' and '' (empty are logical true
while if you try any other input (including 'null'), it tells you that it accepts either on or null
so off isn't documented and behaves objectively wrong
and null is ambiguous since who the fuck new that empty value is still true, but completely omitting is false (default behavior isn't explicitly specified)

[wanton orchid]

it's called making sure you can't complain that the option does not exist
while making it hard to tell you can't really configure it anyway

common shit lately

[soft bloom]

There's a chance it's an old code

Like... Really old

Though option seems to be new

Website does let you download some fortran script for parsing it's format 🙂

[night girder]

I feel your pain 🤣

[night girder]

@twin dew What zipper did you use again, was it Nanazip?

[twin dew]

Yes

Fork of 7zip

[night girder]

You know it's made in China?

And 7ZIP is Russia. And Peaship is EU.

Was thinking of testing out the Pea.

This is what I mean with AI bullshit websites. Or it feels so

Wtf is C:WindowsWebWallpaper?

C:\Windows\Web\Wallpaper does exist. Both two different websites, copying some shit, have the same mistake.

www.techbloat.com/where-is-desktop-background-stored-windows-11.html
umatechnology.org/where-are-windows-11-background-images-stored/

[twin dew]

And both are probably AI content sites.

[night girder]

Right?

[twin dew]

And now that I think of it, probably bad escape character handling.
As \ is very common escape and/or command character.

When autoparsing the net to collate the stuff to get clicks.

[mental oriole]

The age of ai slop is here.

[night girder]

yeah, ofc. But the copy/paste is what I am looking at. How big is the chance two websites, with "real humans", writing original guides, make the same "typo".

[night girder]

It's going quicker than I though.

[twin dew]

Those crap machine curated "pull everything in into crap" sites have already existed for several years minimum.

[wanton orchid]

but now that Google is pushing for ai
it's all pulled as first result

[visual tree]

I started using 7zip at work and now use it on my PC. Never going back to stupid winzip/winrar

Not to mention I am the kind of person who just closed that window asking me to pay and never paid a single cent for winzip subscription

[night girder]

Not only google, I use duckduckgo, which is using binge, same results.

[quasi citrus]

but you did pay for the winrar, so it must be good 😛

[visual tree]

No, didn't pay a single cent

[quasi citrus]

it is kinda iconic to have software without an auto update mechanism these days

[wanton orchid]

only way to review shit before it self insert

[quasi citrus]

only other software that i'm using, that I noticed not to have an one click update button is Calibre

[visual tree]

Some shitty company must have sold my data because I suddenly keep getting unknown phone calls from Slovenia and the numbers are always different....

Must be some scam....

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-7523306793289960933

me right now 🤣

[visual tree]

Questioning life decisions I see

[night girder]

Yes. Regret that I picked gaming as a hobby.

If I can go back in time, I pick fishing as a hobby.

[twin dew]

Cursed machine is still cursed... And nothing makes sense.

[night girder]

Yeah. I think I am done. I can replace parts for eternity probably.

Was thinking of replacing the motherboard. But at this point, what does it even matter.

Replaced CPU, PSU, GPU, ...

[visual tree]

Hopefully your next PC shouldn't have issues

[night girder]

There will be no next PC. I just dropped shitton money on this crap build.

[visual tree]

With completely new parts that is

[night girder]

And if there is a new PC, it will be a prebuilt because I am done with this shit.

Also can't get rid of this shit:

Secure Boot CA/keys need to be updated. This device signature information is included here.
DeviceAttributes: BaseBoardManufacturer:ASRock;FirmwareManufacturer:American Megatrends International, LLC.;FirmwareVersion:3.50;OEMModelNumber:B650M Pro RS;OEMModelBaseBoard:B650M Pro RS;OEMModelSystemFamily:Default string;OEMManufacturerName:ASRock;OEMModelSKU:Default string;OSArchitecture:amd64;
BucketId: ac7625fb6fe54bbff930f07bbb40e7564552885b8fb9b28ce88063c20a719a57
BucketConfidenceLevel:
UpdateType: 0
HResult: The operation completed successfully.

[visual tree]

I'll buy you a new PC if you help me fix excel file with at least 6000 garbage customer data

Spent hours trying to remove garbage Marketing department sent me

[night girder]

The Secure Boot update failed to update a Secure Boot variable with error Secure Boot is not enabled on this machine.. For more information, please see xxx

So dumb, updating something that isnt enabled on the bios and then failing.

Instead of checking if it's enabled first. Fucking idiots.

[visual tree]

I updated windows on my parents laptop recently and it messed up boot. Managed to save windows after some struggle

Windows update really knows how to mess up everything....

[night girder]

Yeah, windows is full garbage at this point.

They just lucky 90% + users don't llook under the hood to see it all fall apart

[visual tree]

Microsoft better be using ShockGPT collar on their employees if they catch them vibe coding

You open AI prompt = electric shock

[mental oriole]

Iirc its part of their biz strategy.

[visual tree]

Think I closed winzip window asking me to pay like 1000 times

But now I use 7zip and don't have to worry anymore

People are usually scared of new tools since they look different but 7zip is actually easy

[night girder]

I cannot find it back, but I though I read an article of a company banning AI.

And telling they can only use the AI of the company itself or something.

[visual tree]

We have our own AI called Pluto. Hope it won't replace me 🙈

[night girder]

and btw asablic, chat control is back 🙁

[visual tree]

R.I.P. Knew it would return in some different form

[night girder]

Voluntarily required In the amended proposal, the scanning of chat messages is a voluntary option for providers and facilitators of communication services. At the same time, the new text imposes an obligation on companies to limit risks around child abuse material. Article 4 of the new proposal states that hosting providers and providers of communication services must take 'all reasonable measures' for risk mitigation when they see a risk that their services are being used for online activities related to child abuse. "The mitigation measures will be limited, where possible, to an identifiable part of the service, or to specific users or specific groups or types of users, without compromising the effectiveness of the measure," the amended proposal says.

Google translated.

If something is required it isn't voluntarily.

This formulation is very broad due to terms such as 'where possible' and 'groups or types of users'.

[jagged snow]

Basically looks like "Optional but you take legal liability if you choose not to implement"

[night girder]

Why doesn't this law want to die 🙁

[jagged snow]

Because it's really really good for the people making the rules

[twin dew]

"But Think Of the Children!"

[night girder]

I do think of the Children.

[jagged snow]

Lots of control and it's a "think of the children" law

[night girder]

The end justifies the means - logic. What can go wrong.

Reminds me of that movie, Equilibrium. Saw it long time ago. But I think everyone has to take pills, to control their emotions, and so there is world peace.
Because everyone is a zombie or something 🤣 The movie also plays with the idea "the end justifies the means".

Even if that risk is not too bad, there is still the danger that this broad control can have an oppressive effect on people, their communication and therefore society. Breyer therefore warns that chat control is a **totalitarian **system for mass surveillance. He argues that the new compromise goes further than a previously rejected proposal: from AI-powered monitoring of shared files to full scanning of private messages and metadata as well. The Belgian encryption specialist Bart Preneel of KU Leuven also touches on this expansion to De Morgen.

[twin dew]

Which is why that stuff is coated in that "Think of the children" top layer, while the actual reason is more sinister.

[night girder]

Yeah, but who cares right? Some people in a discord channel ... but main population, I don't think they care. 90% is probably a parent themselves and think it's a good idea.

and I think the core of the issue (protecting the children) wont go away, it will find different ways.

speaking of which, Australia also banned twitch now for -16 kids.

www.nytimes.com/2025/11/20/world/australia/twitch-australia-social-media-ban.html

Not sure what is going on down south 🤣

[visual tree]

Guess our world will eventually turn into 1984 novel....

[night girder]

Sometimes I think, am I too skeptical? But then I am like; people literal wrote books and made movies about it. So they saw the same potential dangers as I do.

Dune for example, in that lore you got a giant fight between computers/AI and everyone else. That's the reason computers are banned in Dune and you wont see em.

They use humans genetically modified with dust as "components" so they can make jumps through space.

[soft bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr-eZ_pLTNI
last thing I expected is to see my gov's postal service cardboard box in styropyro's video

[night girder]

Fuck me, ads in embedded.

[mental oriole]

Yee it's bad.

[visual tree]

Hope I will wake up from this nightmare in a pod full of sticky fluid and plugs all over my body, only to get flushed into the sewers, grabbed by a hook and welcomed by a bald man saying "Welcome to the real world, asablic" 🤣

[night girder]

I would love that 🤣

I would probably stay in the simulation though, with crazy super powers.

[mental oriole]

If the "real world" has foxgirls sure

[visual tree]

I loved animatrix more than the matrix movies

[night girder]

But it's crazy how much of the pop culture is rooted in "skepticism" towards technology/future.

especially in the 2000-2020 era. Now it's mostly garbage 🤣

[soft bloom]

mhhh, I don't have that. maybe cause I disabled embeds? only see timy YT thing with channel name and title

[mental oriole]

Something Something enshitification of the internet.

[night girder]

Anyone knows the Minority Report? I miss those movies.

[soft bloom]

ye ye, I was talking about that here before.
like if church is back at instilling fear in scientific progress

[mental oriole]

Think I've heard of it.

[soft bloom]

hehe, but also skeptical to technology

[mental oriole]

Too tired to recall 🤣

[night girder]

Well, this skepticism is rooted in real concerns.

Like privacy, and like I said so many times; do the means justify the end?

[soft bloom]

Tom Cruise is there. maybe that helps

[night girder]

Like can you put a bunch of ladies in a pool of water to predict future crimes, and then eliminate those people before they executed their crimes?
What if the prediction is inaccurate? What if one tiny change, makes it so the person doesn't do the crime etc.

Probably just me, but those movies really made me think about things. Modern movies don't provoke that anymore.

[soft bloom]

can you let leading software distributor get away with promoting gambling in one of the most popular games? (valve, csgo, lootboxes, bet thirdparty services)

[night girder]

The whole world is build on gambling. What do you think stocks are 🤣

I know some people in here saw some sort of video and are all pised at steam.

but I am so fucking confused. Like gambling is going on for about 15 years in games.

And now people are pissed because Valve did something to the market? Wtf. What about all the other shit?
Like Genshin Impact or something.

The trading cards have been a thing for ever in steam. I don't get where this sudden community wide hate comes from.

You literally have a banana game on steam, and the only purposse ... is gambling and selling banana skins.

Fornight is build on gambling. Every game that has RNG is using gambling in a way ...

[soft bloom]

they are a great source for though and caution, when they present issue correctly.
what I don't like, is when someone with agenda present just one side of question, forcing solution they got paid to promote wnt to see in real world.

game example: The Talos Prinsiple presents both sides of conflict between limiting growth to preserve nature and not repeat old mistakes (of humanity) against embracing new tech that solves survival but comes at great responsibility for messing things up big way

[soft bloom]

kids can't go gambling stocks. but they can ask dad for credit card to buy shiny skin , then bet it on another cs:go match.... rinze repeat

[night girder]

Team Fortress, 2007, always had skins. And after 18 years people are mad? 🤣

[night girder]

Ok, so you don't want kids to gamble.

[soft bloom]

not always as far as I recall. that shit started in 2010s, maybe exactly around 2012 even.
tf2 doesn't have esports of cs2's size.
problem is in fact that this shit breaks young minds, I saw that while was in school. all they care whole day is if their bet was good, not to study math.

[night girder]

I think I had the same conversation with Fireworker, and steam does shitty stuff. For sure. But name a company that doesn't do shitty stuff?
It's picking between bad, badder (I know not a word), and worse.

[night girder]

I've seen kids fight over pokemon cards in my days? So we also gotta ban that? Which is also gambling.

Kids buys a pack of card with random cards hoping for a shinny one. And magic the gathering, yugio, I think all pack card game do this.

And if you want to buy specific cards, I did it for magic the gathering, you can pay a lot of money.

[soft bloom]

hehe, you are reminding me of rhethoric I read in news lately on a completely unrelated topic I don't want to bring up...
question is not in picking, question is at 1 recognizing what is good or bad, and why 2 promote what's good 3 get rid of bad as much as reasonable

there are planty of games and companies that are no involved in gambling, especially letting minors do that.
and there seem to be legal ways to remove gambling, though last I heard even in EU it won't be easy.
lastly, it's a question of whoever pays for those skins to not do that, including vloggers who buy them fora nother 'loot box opening' video

though there's always a way to trigger change by letting something rot so hard it annoys too many people and they enforce change. doesn't work with everything though. but smokeless fire has its own danger

[soft bloom]

actually, I mentioned valve' blind eye on kids gambling as part of 'does end justify the means'
the end: valve gets lots of money
means: they implemented gambling and don't monitor who does that, including allowing third party sites to profit on their system
somehow, you were talking about being skeptical, yet defended valve's stance 🙂

though reallife recent example that is much closer to government enforing policies 'to keep public order' is with ID verification before accessing websites.
fear is always that someone with power will abuse system. and this is where trust in system comes at play, defining reception by public, before anyone with pwoer could begin abuse.

if public doesn't trust government - there will be problems... and even good policies won't function as good as they could.
and until people at large are running the state, it will remain a lever

[night girder]

And don't see how one can't be skeptical, and also be skeptical to a community wide hysteria around Valve 😊

Being skeptical doesn't mean I am not allowed to disagree with opinions.

Meanwhile Ubisoft is making deals with Tencent and nobody is batting an eye. (Todays news, they are very close).

It feels like a targetted attack on Valve atm. While putting up blinders to all the rest of the gaming 💩 companies.

[soft bloom]

didn't say you can't, just interesting

[night girder]

EA being sold. Nobody gives a fuck.

But Valve, ooh how dare you mess with the market and CS:GO skins.

[soft bloom]

hehe, I just remembered about valve, though that topic of gambling re-entered me maybe half a year ago, if not earlier...

and ubisoft is just not something I care about. don;t play their games, don't expect anything. best they did was nurtured author of E33

[night girder]

It more reads to me as this; a bunch of people were investing in skins. Then the market collapsed. And then they blame it on Valve.

[soft bloom]

hehe, that's news to me

[night girder]

If I put my money into stock, and that company collapses, and I am mad. I shouldn't have invested.

It's very silly that a bunch of gamblers, are blaming Valve ... for gambling mechanics.

The most I sold a skin for was 0.03 euro cents. Because that's the lowest.

And the highest I sold it for was 0.01 euro cents. So I lose jack shit. Maybe that's why I am not bothered by it.

[night girder]

Well, I've seen lot of YT videos in my feed being mostly pissed off about that atm.

It's like a junky being mad at their dealer for dealing drugs.

[soft bloom]

oh no I am out of the news stream

valve is on my mind only because I saw steam machine recently.

[night girder]

I know I am kinda defending Valve, which I don't want too, because it's a million/billion/trillion dollar company.
But on the other hand, I am happy as a gamer that we have something like Valve. Hard to describe. Maybe it's a bit nostalgia mixed in.

[soft bloom]

if that's who got them into it... very much rightfully so

[soft bloom]

that's why I thought that bringing up gambling at valve is a decent example of does end justify the means

[night girder]

I am very old school.

I want to give my money for a game. Install it and never have to pay again for anything.

But sadly, that's not a reality.

And nobody can actually say if gaming would be sustainable without all the micro transactions. Maybe we wouldn't have gotten the games we have now.
Maybe a few companies went bankrupt. Maybe we were better off? Hard to tell.

[languid gulch]

the thing is, there could be other platforms that compete with valve. but that'd require the company to have less of a profit margin, which shareholders just can't tolerate. not a loss, just less of a profit.

[night girder]

Or the price for a game wouldn't be 70 dollars but around 200 dollars 🤷‍♂️

[night girder]

Also true.

There is Epic putting up the fight. Giving free games away daily/weekly if you are on Epic etc. "Come here little ones, I got some free candy for you all..." 🤣

[languid gulch]

yup

occasionally it's even a game worth grabbing

[night girder]

Yeah I know, some good titles sometimes.

[soft bloom]

....and give us your sweet precious data

[night girder]

Also that. It just feels wrong.

[soft bloom]

Nightingale was a good one

[night girder]

But if that's all they can do to actually try to compete, it is what it is.

[languid gulch]

i managed to get Cities Skylines free from them, and Death Stranding

tomb raider

civ6 (meh, but still)

[night girder]

maybe, someone fucked up in history, to just allow this shit to happen in the first place.
Buying products, connecting it to one service. That service gone? All products gone.
Maybe we should have sticked with just downloading games straight from the website of who ever made the game? Or discs.

[languid gulch]

maybe

i still wouldn't mind if someone started selling full fat games on USBs

[night girder]

Like you pay, you get physical access to that game forever on a disc or other format.

If that was the case, steam wouldn't be a monopoly I think.

[languid gulch]

for solo games, i've made copies onto a separate drive so if something goes splat i can still play it

[night girder]

it's just because they have just a gigantic library of games to offer, they can do whatever they want.

Give developers barely any money? Where else you going to publish your game? etc.

[night girder]

I started to work on my own game 🤣 Nobody can take that away.

[languid gulch]

which engine?

[night girder]

UE5. Love it. Hate it.

[languid gulch]

also you're screwed there

[night girder]

I am making more progress, quicker than in an engine like Godot though.

[languid gulch]

cuz i think they can claim any of your work

[soft bloom]

wasn't that spore? or someone connected to it? just recently watched some lovely overview of what happened to it...

[night girder]

How? Hack into my PC 🤣

[languid gulch]

nah, check the ToS

[night girder]

I did. It has to do with how much revenue I make a month

[soft bloom]

but what about patches? content updates? limited time events?

[languid gulch]

last time i checked they had the right to claim any work done on their engine

[night girder]

So every game developer, provides this shit on their own servers.

This is how it was in 2000.

If I played age of empires, it had a launcher and it just updated the game 🤷‍♂️

[soft bloom]

my comment was about physical storage that distributes game

[night girder]

Yes.

I bought age of empire 2 on disc.

I updated it through the internet.

[soft bloom]

I think there should be github for games with ability to download any revision even if it doesn't work with online services.
oh wait, that sounds liek steam... except it doesn't provide older versions without developers giving beta codes

there always will besomeone who comes in and tries to centralize something

valve was great at being also the first to do that at large scale and promote that model with good games

[night girder]

I hate legal jargon.

As between you and us, you own all rights, other than rights in the Licensed Technology, in the Products you develop under this Agreement, and we own all title, ownership rights, and intellectual property rights in the Licensed Technology.

I own all rights. Nice.

other than Licensed Technology, in the products you develop under this agreement? WTF? 🤣

we own all title, ownership rights, and intellectual property rights in the Licensed Technology.

So if I am not mistaken. The licensed technology is UE5 (the engine itself).

[languid gulch]

which i think is one of those "you can make it on our engine, but unless we approve it, you can't sell it"

[soft bloom]

I honestly don't think that games should increase in cost or have transactions.
Free to play is a case where mass sort of benefit from a couple whales.
subscription is fair and square, but there's always a question of if developers are keeping wuality over time
one-time payment is not viable for online games really, they always find a way to ask for more. or that's pyramid scheme where ever ending influx of new players keeps it alive.

[night girder]

No, I don't think so Cuyar. But I am not sure either.

[languid gulch]

might want to look into it before getting too far if you plan on selling it

[night girder]

Distributions of any Product that is not a Royalty-Free Product (such Products, “Royalty Products”) will be subject to the terms of the attached Royalty Addendum. Additionally, any advance on Royalty Product revenue you receive to develop a Royalty Product will be subject to the Royalty Addendum. However, as described more fully in the Royalty Addendum, you will not be obligated to pay us royalty payments under this Agreement unless a Product directly generates more than $1,000,000 USD in gross revenue.

[languid gulch]

lol