off-topic-tech

[sharp matrix]

i do find it interesting how much drama GN seems to get dragged into alot, even when they are just putting out information videos, aka the gpu smuggling video's, maybe these other companies just want the attention that much, idk

personally i cant imagine what bloomberg was thinking deciding that moment was a good moment to start abusing the dcma system youtube has

[pure karma]

i mean the strike is a lie for sure since they were able to upload in less than a week which is the minimum ban

[sharp matrix]

also youtube isn't fighting the counter notification, they simply forward the legal notices to bloomberg, so yeah its a obvious lie because even youtube has no problem putting the video back up

but i guess in this case its up to bloomberg to turn this into a gamers nexus vs bloomberg now in court, if thats the next step

part of me is really hoping bloomberg loses their minds and does it, because this could all be really fun

granted it would insane, because there is noway they are going to win the use of those video clips isnt fair use

[night girder]

There is a high chance GN knew what they were getting into. Maybe they didn't expect it to be Bloomberg though.
I hope it doesn't go to court because that will cost GN. Bloomberg can afford it more easily I assume.

[sharp matrix]

Oh they knew, why GN said in the gpu smuggling video if this video gets taken down to reupload it, so they probably did predict something would happen, they just didn't know where it would come from

[bronze jasper]

they use'd bloomberg's copyrighted footage is why it got taken down. not some conspiracy about a cover up

[sharp matrix]

what you talking cover up? also that footage is fair use, noway bloomberg has chance of trying to play that as copyrighted

I mean they could try to play that card in court but I don't see that ending well

[bronze jasper]

fair use is up to courts to decide and not dmca

[sharp matrix]

On that we can agree, but your the one trying to say bloombergs footage is copyright, when that isnt up to you to decide nor is it any other entity besides the court as you say

[bronze jasper]

bb's footage is copyright. fair use is an exemption from copyright limitations.

[sharp matrix]

no chance that footage is copyrighted, and you dont get to decide what is copyright either

[bronze jasper]

copyright is granted upon authorship. it's implicit to all published works

[sharp matrix]

while true, this doesn't work in this case, those statements are the presidents public statements, which falls under fair use

to say bloomberg somehow has authorship of those statements is beyond absurd🙂

[bronze jasper]

bloomberg's footage of a public event is copyright to them.

[sharp matrix]

honestly you sound utterly insane here

[bronze jasper]

ad hominem means nothing to me. absolutely meaningless

copyright law often sounds insane, but it's truely a real thing

[sharp matrix]

so you have gone with madness I see🙂

[bronze jasper]

nope. i'm actually the reasonable one here who isn't blinded by fanboyism for GN. you need to move on

[sharp matrix]

your the one arguing this insanity here, perhaps you should move on?

[pure karma]

in your own words "rage bait use to be believable"

[bronze jasper]

you guys really need to take at least a day course on copyright law before you start acting so sour about it

[sharp matrix]

I agree, surely this has to be rage bait, or this person is really this mad to actually believe this

[pure karma]

copyright only exists for the angry

[bronze jasper]

<@&387163995947270144> why is it suddenly all about me?

[pure karma]

💀

[sharp matrix]

.....for real💀

well its official, the marbles are gone

[pure karma]

yep

[sharp matrix]

indeed....

I could tell something wasnt quite right, I mean this person is somehow arguing bloomberg has authorships of the presidents public statements

[pure karma]

im still questioning wether or not i install windows on my second pc again

the game streaming latency on linux is so baaadddd but also the lower idle usage is so nice on a system running at idle like 8 hours a day

[sharp matrix]

It's either that or what we are seeing is rage bait, unsure of which it is, their inter arguments really doesn't add up, since when did corporations have authorship of the presidents public statements, maybe I missed the memo

If a court actually ruled that was somehow true, then even I would have to question what world we live in👀

But theres noway that could be....right?

[bronze jasper]

The footage has copyright. this is just a fact of how media works

nothing personal

[languid gulch]

well those SpaceX engineers have definitely earned a party

that was brilliant

seeing the satellite mechanism in use was interesting

[thin trout]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w82CqjaDKmA

[languid gulch]

i mean, yes

but they got 100% of the checklist this time i think

also i watch NSF instead of Xitter, don't wanna give them any traffic

[thin trout]

They needed it. The last three test flights all regressed, likely all suffering from the same propellant line issues after diagnostics and fixes failed multiple times. Debris landed outside of the safety zone, damaging property and posing threat to human life - which SpaceX publically denied and then deleted their denial when they realised that people were undeniably proving that they were wrong.

During testing for this flight the ship exploded on the test stand due to an unrelated QA failure.. then the crane cleaning it up fell over and hurt someone due to violating safety regs.

All in all it was becoming quite a joke as a rule rather than exception

Lots of turnover due to the nazi stuff right before those issues.

[soft bloom]

are screws at the back of PSU specifically made to need more force to screw in because they try to ensure more contact area to serve as conductor to connect casings and be grounded?

I wonder if there's any good reason for the PCI-e slot plates to be perforate, or I should just slap ducktape on it to prevent unfiltered air intake

[bronze jasper]

no. ground is done through other means. the tight fitt is just so that the spinning fan doesn't cause vibrations in the case

oh i looked it up. i thoguht it was the motherboards stands that ground but the case to psu screws do too

oopps wrong room 😛

[soft bloom]

MB screws are more obvious ground-connections ofcourse. I believe this case-to-case is more
With PSU screws it's noticeable since after first rotation I realy needed to apply force to even be able to rotate them further in, while most other screws (referring to place where it's placed, not as in other screw form) you can do 95% of the job just by hand and only need screwdriver to tighten in.
Considering how tightly packed cables are in PSU coffin, even if it unscrews itself, all it could do is wiggle a little bit and break contact with the case (it rests on top of 4 soft pads to... idk, not make noise when you install it? don't see any other reason).

[twin dew]

That force depends on PSU.
It is tiny bit cheaper to make not completely finished screw holes, which causes higher force needed to screw the screws in first time.
Or you might be using wrong thread screws.

Which would also align with that half turn before getting hard.

[twin dew]

Ground is also by other means, but the screws do transmit ground too.
Which is why it is basically always power pins that burn, not ground.

Basically most PCs don't have separate signal, 0V or safety grounds, all are combined and tied to case etc.

[soft bloom]

hmmm
well I could mess up screws, since I defenitely did re-install it couple times.
But I also remember using either screws that came with PSU itself.
all case screws with hexagonal outer profile seem to be interchangeable though

[twin dew]

Yeah, two base screw sizes used in most PCs.
#6-32 UNC for the larger, and M3 for smaller.

Where PSUs etc. use that #6-32 UNC

But you can also have M3s with same type head, so need to look at the thread, not the head.

But with just those two, the M3 shouldn't really bite in PSU screw hole.

Might be intentional where the PSU side screw hole is springy and tight to prevent screws loosening from vibrations.

Which in turn is more expensive to make than just plain thread.

[soft bloom]

hmm, is there a way to test this?

[twin dew]

Doesn't really matter once the screw is in and holding.

[soft bloom]

well I lost the only screwdriver that has a good grip on this head

[twin dew]

Only PH2 screwdriver you own?
The most common screw head for long time?

And that hex head is in size of a socket too, so right size socket can be used with that instead.

[soft bloom]

yeah, if I don't find good ph2 in time I wiil try that

[soft bloom]

the second one is so worn out it doesn't get a grip at this much resistance, just slips

[twin dew]

You might be trying to use PH1, which is one size smaller.

[soft bloom]

actually the one lost is not so great either, but it worked so far

[soft bloom]

huh...
Well, after looking up size comparison, I got doubts
but then remembered there's modular screwdriver, which worked (not worn out)

I think these 2 drivers are same, but one of them worked, and none look exactly as screwdriver

But should be ph1 and ph2 here somehow

Ph3 looks much bulkier

[twin dew]

PH0:s at top, PH1:s for the actual driver and bottom bit.

And just tested that PH2 is the right size for (almost) all M3 and #6 screws I had.
PH1 can turn, but it wobbles in the head.

And PH3 will not fit at all.

That is very common to look at screwdrivers and think the right head is too large to fit, and never even test, and instead use one size too small.

[soft bloom]

Yeah I tried that 🙂
Sad

[twin dew]

Or to try to use PZ driver (smaller things between the main things) when PH is needed.

[willow pike]

or this

these fuckers are not compatible

[twin dew]

Yeah, PH/Philips can be used with PZ/Pozidriv, but not other way around.
But using actual PZ is much better.

As in PH driver works on PZ head.

[willow pike]

if you ever completely wrecked a screw head with the right sized driver, you probably fell victim to this

[soft bloom]

TIL

[willow pike]

identify PZ by the extra notches on the screw head

and by the screw bit being labelled PZ / having the extra flange things

most pc stuff is philips so if you use a PZ driver on it, you'll have a bad time

[twin dew]

And in at least Finland, way too many screwdriver sets come with PZ + flathead, and not PH + flathead...

[willow pike]

oh and if you ever wanna teardown a Nintendo thing, there's a third standard

[twin dew]

There are lot more cruziform screwheads beside those three...

[twin dew]

Canada has Frearson for example that is not compatible either.
And then lot of less common ones:
https://www.instructables.com/When-a-Phillips-is-not-a-Phillips/

[willow pike]

[twin dew]

Cross country standardization, or even cross-company standardization wasn't that much of a thing during early 1900s.

[soft bloom]

So the very top one is also pz0

[twin dew]

And after base PH came the most common standard, lot of attempts at improving it as shown there.
As PH was explicitly designed to cam out as crude torque limiting tech.

[twin dew]

Yeah, didn't look close enough, as the features almost get hidden by the sensor noise.

[soft bloom]

I am still confused why driver has smaller angle of attack

[twin dew]

Might not be actual Philips, but might be Frearson instead.

[languid gulch]

us americans are amazing at turning Frearsons into Philips, and Philips into untouchable security heads

[languid gulch]

i'll take "95% of UN paperwork" for $400, Alex

(dumb joke, but it was there)

[soft bloom]

It is...

[twin dew]

For comparison on those Philips sizes:

[soft bloom]

Angle is uqite sharp
Some of these are same size but Pozidriv
Second full driver is PH3 for sure (there's proper label)
Yet it look bigger then what should be ph3 from the toolkit

[soft bloom]

This not funny anymore

[twin dew]

That left bottom (screwdriver?) is probably PH2.
The two bits above it are PH3.

[soft bloom]

Should be Philips

[twin dew]

Ah, sorry PZ3 and PH3

But that black screwdriver on bottom left probably fits.

[willow pike]

[twin dew]

No, might be PH3 too...

[soft bloom]

Nah it's PH3

[twin dew]

But those screws are with PH2 heads.

[soft bloom]

Nope

[twin dew]

Yeah, compared the top to PH2 and I was making a mistake on that.

[soft bloom]

???

[soft bloom]

So there are (left to right top to bottom ignoring flat ones):
Top row
Same size pz (A) and ph (B)
Same size pz (C) and ph (D)
Some (slightly smaler) pz (E)
Bottom row
Black head screwdriver from Auchan that is PH3 (F)
Older worn out screwdriver that is likely ph2 (G)

The F, A and B don't fit
D does fit and was a success to the end
G fits but slips past first rotation
Didn't try any pz

F looks bigger then A and B (not just eprspective)
E is slightly smaller then C and D

[twin dew]

Nah, that G is one size too small non-philips, almost certainly that Frearson.

PH1 can be used with PH2 but with care because of very high chance to cam out.
Where with proper PH2 that isn't that much of issue.

Ah, no, again my eyes don't like me.

No, it seems to be with different angle, so should be Frearson?

[soft bloom]

oh, the B is Frearson

it got the angle, and curved groove

G has straight curve
is E mislabeled and should be Frearson too?!

[twin dew]

Angle is the major tell.

Rest is implementation details outside small area near the tip.

Philips, Pozidriv and JIS all have 57 degree points.
Frearson has 75 degree.
Then differences in the other direction, but cannot as easily be seen.

[soft bloom]

75 between axis and the edge? that would be so close to flat

[twin dew]

No, between the edges at their intersection point if you continued them straight.

[night girder]

Since when are screwdrivers rocket science

[twin dew]

Anyways, like talked here already earlier, SpaceX did another Starship test flight, not blowing up this time.
Original full video: https://www.spacex.com/launches/starship-flight-10
Scott Manleys take on the flight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZw2vyZNz5I

[soft bloom]

the moment they loose their label

[twin dew]

Reason why I really would like for everyone to standardize into Torx.

[languid gulch]

Torx with maybe a flat head across it

[twin dew]

Would make the actual torx part much more likely to strip.
And if that happens, having that flat head will not help anyways.

[languid gulch]

probably

i feel like a screw should have 2 options for a compatible bit

that's one advantage philips has

[twin dew]

You can already use just right size flathead with Torx.
But point is that you wouldn't need flatheads, philips etc.
Only Torx, as most of the currently used common heads are explicitly meant to cam out.
Frearson and Torx aren't.

But Frearson cannot be put into common usage to replace Philips, as trying to use PH driver for Frearson is horrible and WILL strip the head.

As they are too close in outwards appearance.

[night girder]

Yes, standarize into something I don't care what. But pick your poison and keep at it.

And yes, Apple, I am looking at you with your stupid screws.

I mean look at this shit for iphone/ipad repair guide.

[twin dew]

Explicit attempt to prevent outside work.

[night girder]

If their hardware was solid, people wouldn't need to open it 🤣

[twin dew]

Tri-wings and four-wings point are that tightening has less surface area over loosening.
So that you should always be able to open them in theory, but not in actual practice.

It was just very uncommon head that was then also used as security screw.

[night girder]

...

[twin dew]

Pentalobe is pure fuck you from Apple.

That green surface on each wing is used to transfer torque from driver to head when tightening.
Red is used when loosening.

But ok, that Tri-Point (falsely but commonly known as Tri-Wing) seems to have been japanese origin security screw.
Actual Tri-Wing is very similar aircraft fastener head.
Same for the four-blade version (Four-wing, Torq-set, Mortorq).

[safe trench]

people are discussing screw heads as if its some sort of major political thing

[charred relic]

phillips should be a lot of things... that aren't that

in most cases, there are better heads

[karmic socket]

it's about alternate receipes in satisfactory

[charred relic]

stuff that doesn't you know... strip as easily and/or can be tightened down more

*doesn't strip

You could be Ring and supply somebody with a security screw for the battery cover etc that is just a star bit

but hey they give the the security bit tool that still fits but defeats the entire purpose of installing it at all

[night girder]

I am not that into screws.

[charred relic]

(not that really is one since those bits were "secure" for about until whenever you could buy a set 2 weeks after release)

[twin dew]

All the various security screws, except ones that have the whole head shear off, are just about making average person less likely to have the right driver.

Not about absolute security.

[charred relic]

Yeah

[safe trench]

if we dont standardize the torx screw we will have ww3
is all what im hearing

[charred relic]

But like those older bits are just standard in sets now lol

It's eseentially like any other star/hex or whatever, a basic kit has all of the common shit

[twin dew]

Phillips is from 1932.
Torx is from 1967.

[charred relic]

Well what I told them was they shouldven't just installed proper cameras heh

[charred relic]

I wasn't too concerned with the bit since none of those things are in any way secure, just found it amusing

And now to get the desktop version of Demeo set up so I can run mods. Kind of addicted to that game.

[soft bloom]

it's always better to pretend you don't know something then explain something you wish other's didn't know

or is it? plays vsauce.mp3

blending tech and not politics but human rights
yay, anti-cyberpunk video from that guy who does tech projects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp9MwZkHiMQ
"Breaking The Creepy AI in Police Cameras"

some expect LLMs to reach AGI, mentime government fuckups using basic OCR

||also I broke sweat when music at 3:00 started playing, and I won't explain why||

[night girder]

This is too funny, Will Smith used AI to generate a crowd. The result;

[dire igloo]

AI videos would be so much more believable if people just added shit like compression artifacts in post

[bronze jasper]

he's no stranger to ai since one of the biggest ai memes a couple yaers ago was will smith eating spaghetti. he knows it gets a ton of attention and taht's how he's promoting his world tour. he is using the outrage about ai so people actually know it's going on, since the actual industry won't promote him he's black listed now

[jagged snow]

Oh man
I forget how slow old drives are
I'm setting up this old hdd I have as a cold spare while I'm moving a bunch of stuff around and good gravy is it ever slow

Windows is projecting 8hr transfer times

[soft bloom]

either I need to go touch grass, or this is one of the best vegetation I have seen (choosed frame to have some at variety of distances)

I mean, it feels like it has real volume and isn't just a "couple" of sprites

or maybe I just miss Crimean trees... (you know, they often had this kind of thick stuff instead of leaves, like pine trees do, due to climate)
it's been more then 10 years already

[pure karma]

yea it seems the same but like a HDD from 8 years ago is so much slower than oen from today its insane

[jagged snow]

Which of these two fan setups do y'all think would be the superior performer?

Yes, it is
My only thought for doing one push and one pull is it might allow for some cooler air to bleed down in the middle

Especially since I'm most likely going to set up this case with tip mounted fans

[pure karma]

one on the left

[thin trout]

middle fan gives the best performance of the 3 slots

followed by front push fan

[jagged snow]

How do you figure?

Also I find it interesting that a gpu with a 304w tdp wants three 8 pins

[thin trout]

Just going from some small practical tests and e.g. the noctua dual tower coolers; the single fan versions use a center fan, and they claim best performance in that position.

[jagged snow]

Coo, thanks 👍

I also screwed up when I was ordering these

[sharp matrix]

You should see some of the ue5 tech demos, already easily surpassing that, some of them are approaching photo realism👀

Granted those are just tech demos and not exactly a game but it gives a idea of what can be done in the future gaming wise

Yes

Cinematic lumen they had to remove because it was to intense for some people and those people tried to use it anyways

Ue5 in ex when it first released was a disaster performance wise as well

Boy was ue5 on ex rough....

[pure karma]

i tried again in 1.0 lol its still in the game

but yea runs like absolute doo doo cheeks and makes no diffrence in asthethics tbh

push buttons, see what happens.

a quote on a shirt i have

[main falcon]

So I may have done some sh!t that is either gonna work amazingly or make me look like the world's biggest f!cking idiot

I just spent like 5 minutes typing it out just for it to be blocked and removed by the server.

yay.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

angy protogen

[jagged snow]

I just found out that vaultwarden is a thing

[jagged snow]

And 7800x3d is fast 🙂

[dire igloo]

The first pic has two fans tho.
Front and middle

[jagged snow]

Yeah, I'm essentially curious weather having the middle fan push will provide more benefit than allowing a little cool air to get between the towers

Doesn't really matter, cpu is at like 60c under a gaming load with fans at ~1k rpm

[thin trout]

Yeah, it's just that the middle one does the most work

[dire igloo]

Eh, doubtful

I think front fan does the most work and middle fan aids.
But if you remove middle fan, the front airflow disperses in the middle

[thin trout]

Imma trust Jacob Dellinger on that, only ever seen data to support it

[dire igloo]

Single middle fan works best cuz you pull through the first tower and push through the second.
Single front fan is shit cuz you push through first tower and barely get anything for second tower.
Having both means front fan pushes most of the air and middle fan works more as a duct than a fan

[jagged snow]

Yep

[dire igloo]

I wonder what would happen if you retried the experiment with a PC fan that had its blades removed

[jagged snow]

Fans don't really do much other than create a vortex with both faces obstructed like that

Honestly I wonder if it performs any worse

[dire igloo]

Point is to have more airflow through second tower and less dispersed in the gap

[jagged snow]

Yep

But push on first tower and pull on second with gap in-between might give same airflow with the chance for some cool air to get in in the middle

[dire igloo]

Also a fun idea to test

[jagged snow]

Yep

I could throw something together at work with a constant heat source

[main falcon]

Sooo I may need assistance; is it theoretically possible to create a PC Case made from stainless steel (water cooled setup very specific to a build I have) that is literally a Blender from in-game

(Satisfactory in-game)

[jagged snow]

Oh it's absolutely possible

[main falcon]

Noted, trying to get one custom made through ProtoCase and then given to Meta PCs to make it violently beefy
(I mean like 2 NVIDIA RTF5090 GPU, AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D Processor, ASUS ROG Crosshair X780E Hero Motherboard, 2800w power supply, 4 sticks of 64g Storage, 2 sticks of 8TB Lexar NM970 Memory PLUS 2 Samsung 870 EVO/QVO external 4TB hard drives)

It is insanely expensive, but also like literally something that probably shouldn't exist and is extremely overkill for what I'm using it for but whatever

My wallet will hate me but having this as part of my streaming setup will be fun (My main use is literally going to be streaming gaming and inhale building and designing a standalone analog horror game on Unreal Engine 5 because I got bored

Won't say what group or the game name because ✨self promotion isn't nice when it isn't warranted✨

[safe trench]

Sir, do you have a warrant for that self promotion?

[main falcon]

I have a warrant for this meme

https://tenor.com/view/suprised-explosion-shocked-element-of-gif-26770639

[soft bloom]

Well, this game is not ue5 and is 5 years old

[sharp matrix]

What is meant

[bronze jasper]

witcher4's vegg looks incredible

[dire igloo]

Crysis?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/970713373811568680/1194382024530722899/13963343195_00061e7c26_o.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/970713373811568680/1194363127727411200/13971533391_2ef0e6653d_o.jpg

This is Crysis 3 btw

[soft bloom]

Crysis is much older

[bronze jasper]

crysis 3 is even so old

more than 5 years

[soft bloom]

it definitely has CGI taste to it, but detailed indeed

nope, it was TW: Troy

[dire igloo]

These images are from the original btw, not the remaster

[dire igloo]

idk if my eyes are more sensitive to it than yours, I've had the same impression from the TW Troy screenshot

[soft bloom]

well, there definitely are some tellsign too
tree trunk texture is screeming "CGI"
but if you ignore some trees to the right that seem to have sama color (no shadow) - I would igve it a pass

maybe I got triggered by 2000s color filter with slight sharpness

[bronze jasper]

the remasterd crysis 3 is a huge upgrade. it looks great too. i should replay it

[soft bloom]

from CroTeam screenshot, that's TTP2:
yes, looks better then tw:troy

but also just different too

maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention to pines, haha

[mental oriole]

Pineful

[main locust]

this one captured a feeling of dampness that is quite impressive

[sterile plinth]

Guh great apparently windows installation iso doesn't work with ventoy

And I'm out of USB sticks

[twin dew]

Should work?

Including Win11 24H2

[soft bloom]

TTP2 has some great fog locations
It just feels like volume

[sterile plinth]

Something about missing media drivers

Whenever I flashed the iso to a USB In the past it never did that

[twin dew]

I use hardware level emulator device with old SATA SSD installed inside.

[sterile plinth]

superuser.com/questions/1811904/windows-10-0xc0000001-error-after-using-gparted

I don't think I've found a single forum where somebody found a solution to this problem

and it makes no sense, I changed the disk uuid partition uuid NTFS serial volume uuid

rebuilt the boot manager entries

Data is intact

I'm going crazy, it has no reason not to be booting

[twin dew]

So "bootsect" didn't help after that UUID change either?
Would need to look into right options, and if actually safe to use with UEFI boot, or if this is just for MBR boot.

[glossy glacier]

Can confirm, windows works with ventoy

[twin dew]

And is Secure Boot on or off?

And what "bcdboot" options did you try to use?

Ok, that "bootsect" is only for MBR.

[sterile plinth]

bcdboot e:\windows, also tried specifying the EFI volume letter and the UEFI bios type with arguments

[twin dew]

Ah, no, bootsect seems to be also used to update NTFS partition interrnal boot data on UEFI it seems?

[sterile plinth]

didn't try bootsect yet

[twin dew]

Needed to be that letter:\Windows\ on whatever letter is the actual partition containing the wanted Windows install when booted into Windows Recovery Environment.

And has additional options, need to look into that.

bootsect /nt60 driveletter: with whatever letter is the normal C: in the WinRE.

[sterile plinth]

yeah, I'm on mobile. Had I typed windows without a capital W, the command would've told me it's an invalid windows installation path

But the command worked successfully

[sterile plinth]

I think I did do nt60 actually.

Running bootrec /fixboot told me "access denied", and I needed to do nt60 in order to make the command available

[twin dew]

bootsect, not bootrec

Which doesn't have /fixboot option based on MS documentation

[sterile plinth]

I know, bootsect nt60 is required to unlock the bootrec /fixboot command

[austere raven]

is it normal that my gpu sometimes fucks up rendering discord

like, i have to update my screen from time to time so it reloads the screen

i have a 3060ti 8gb btw

[safe trench]

disable gpu acceleration or whatever its called

[austere raven]

hardware accelerated gpu scheduling (if you mean that) is already disabled

[glossy glacier]

No, GPU acc in discord

[verbal raft]

also
why cant i use HAGS ?
i have an RDNA 4 GPU
i thought RDNA 4 supported it...

[twin dew]

AMD removed HAGS support from their drivers in 2024 and hasn't readded it yet.

Ok, seems it should be in for RDNA3 still/again.
But inconclusive for RDNA4.

But only on Windows 11 for AMD.

No support on Windows 10 for any AMD GPU.

[verbal raft]

thats odd
does HAGS actually improve performance though ?

[twin dew]

Depends on exact software.

[austere raven]

Dumb question, does the newest w11 update still destroy ssd sometimes?

I heard something about it

[safe trench]

i think its only on harddrives
source: just trust me bro
(take this with what you will)

glad i use arch linux so i dont have to deal with this bs lol

[austere raven]

I wish I could use perma Linux but the games I play don’t support Linux

At least the anti cheats don’t support it

[twin dew]

August update causes some SSD models to disappear until full power cycle on suitable load.
Where that load profile is SSD dependant.

And for some few models, causes them to fully brick instead.

No known cause.
MS says they haven't been able to replicate.
But some people can trigger that on will in their systems.
No full list of affected SSD models or controllers.

[dire igloo]

Is there at least a "known bad" list? Or just wildly all over the place?

Basically an incomplete list rather than a full one

Or failure rate statistics that have some stuff affected stronger

-# ahem, Innoshit, ahem

[twin dew]

https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-latest-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ssdshdds-may-corrupt-your-data/

[jagged snow]

Yes, but specifically with recovery or very large data transfers and phison nand controllers

[twin dew]

Still contains the "best" list of tested to be affected and three different loads that cause that.
But can possibly be somewhat system specific too.
And the controllers used in those SSDs listed as affected on that are all over the place.

[jagged snow]

And(iirc) primarily gen4 drives

[twin dew]

No, way more than Phisons.

[jagged snow]

Oh good to know

[twin dew]

WD internal controller, Marvell controller, Phison controllers, SK Hynix controller, Silicon Motion controller in the list so far.

In that specific list already.

[jagged snow]

👍 nice

Have they put fault on ms or the controller manus so far?

[twin dew]

No idea yet, even Phison hasn't been able to reproduce it seem?
https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/windows-11s-ssd-breaking-bug-just-got-more-mysterious-and-i-really-hope-microsoft-can-clear-this-up-swiftly

So there probably is something more than just OS update level + SSD model + specific load.
And what that is isn't known.

[jagged snow]

Gotcha

Fun!

[twin dew]

Based on MS and Phison not being able to reproduce.

[visual tree]

Turns out buying a quiet AC like Mitsubishi actually costs you more money for wasted electricity. Sometimes I keep forgetting to turn off the AC because I can't hear it's actually turned on

Learned to use the timer function so I don't have to worry about forgetting to turn off AC

[safe trench]

dual boot

[austere raven]

no second ssd and my current one doesnt have enough space

[safe trench]

just one more drive

[austere raven]

ill buy one more drive eventually...

first im buying a new mainboard, cpu and gpu

with more ram

[karmic socket]

Yay ! I think I just went from 3️⃣ to 1️⃣. People have been reporting issues with the lastest bios for my mobo. So I went and flashed it to a previous version. Keeping my fingers crossed !

[pure karma]

insane game indeed

whats crazy is the remaster of the original is even better

[safe trench]

just use 4️⃣

[karmic socket]

But plutonium is a controlled substance T_T

ALso, I don't have a hazmat suit

[night girder]

I hate windows updates.

Brand clean laptop, and fails at the last august update of windows.

How?!? It's brand new and clean laptop. And even then fucking windows updates fail. Bullshit.

Start at 1PM, it's 10PM now 🙁 9 hours trying to update a windows laptop.

[soft bloom]

well that makes sense since they had a bit more time to get used to UE5

level of detail on structures also helps

actually, maps are soo big and detailed, you can climb mountains that you see in the distance

(well, you will hit the edge of map, but when you ignore those limits, you can go there)

idk if that's lack of optimization or attention to detail

[pure karma]

its called developing for future hardware the right way

i mean even the original still holds up really well for how old it is

[bronze jasper]

if you're clever you can set up linux with windows in a virtual machine, passing through your gpu to the virtual machine, and run the games you like in the vm. the frame loss on this is actually pretty low.

Or like others said, you could dualboot to a windows install just for those games. turns out it's actually pretty easy to keep windows maintained and lean when you only ever boot it to play 1 or 2 games, and then do all your daily driving stuff on a linux partition.

[safe trench]

use linux

i love it

[night girder]

shit recommendation.

[safe trench]

banished to the arch gooner room

[night girder]

laptop is for someone else that's why, not versed with PC's. Linux is no option.

[bronze jasper]

unless you're one of those technomancer linux users that like to extend the life of a laptop with linux

oh wait. you mean one specific laptop. not in general

[sterile plinth]

@twin dew tried bootsect /nt60 E: and turning off secure boot, neither of them worked either

[soft bloom]

Serious Engine works well, it's sad CroTeam didn't continue it... but they did use EU5 in a great way anyway

TTP:reawakaned demo looked like tech demo people used to make for gamescom anouncements, but it is (was... rmeoved from store after release) fully functional

this one is better at being "low sun, grass & trees"

yes I did crank filters on this one

I think I forgot why I went looking through screenshots...

[thin trout]

Yes, and it's required for some features and optimisation (dlss framegen is built with it as a requirement because AFAIK it lets you do some stuff which uses less memory and has better framepacing)

[bronze jasper]

lots of people hate framegen quite a lot but i think it's one of the coolest new techs in game optimization. i often use it to boost 60 or 70 frames per second to something closer to my screen's refresh rate.

i think if you have a 60hz screen it's not to useful tho

[thin trout]

Yes, if you have a 60hz screen it's not very useful at all. But i view that in kind of the same way as people saying "tyres don't fit on my horse!"

My friend bought a 200hz fast IPS monitor for $95 a couple months back, and it was a good deal but not an insane one. It would be really weird to use a 60hz monitor to play games that require strict IRL performance or gpu horsepower in 2025, i would only expect it from peeps who got a free 10 or 15 year old monitor or maybe young kids.

[bronze jasper]

i got a 144hz screen. frame gen legitimately helps boost framerates up to a native situation

[thin trout]

even driver level framegen is okay for 60>120, but proper integrated framegen on 120>480 is insanely good.

[bronze jasper]

yeah the more real frames it has to work with, the better it can perform

[thin trout]

temporal upscalers like DLSS and FSR also give literally higher quality images (as in better quality screenshots) when the FPS is higher, for the same reasons

[bronze jasper]

just rage bait articles. headlines like that attract clicks and views. ue5 is clearly not killing games. tim sweeney has no reason to sugar coat calling out bad development practices. the angry people are a vocal minority.

they should do a certification process much like steam does with steamdeck. where the dev has to run their ue5 code through a benchmark tool to prove it doesn't suck.

[jagged snow]

My new mobo has a bunch of descriptions in spanish lol

[jagged snow]

nope

I think it's just a bios bug...
mobo has a language switcher option and it works

BTW new desk fan

[verbal raft]

When they are real rendered frames
Anyway

[bronze jasper]

"real frames" is a misnomer to me. since they're synthetic still anyways. it's more like rasterized vs otf interpolated

[verbal raft]

Well damn

[thin trout]

Yeah, it's still very close to correct most of the time.

It's a lot easier than having 4x GPU horsepower - or in the case of Satisfactory, having a CPU 4x faster than zen5 x3d which just does not exist at all period (and probably won't for a decade)

of course if you could have 4x the GPU performance and 4x the CPU performance then you would and should do that

but lacking that, the comparison is between no framegen and framegen, and for high framerate gaming framegen has a slamdunk win unless the game is so light that it doesn't challenge the GPU or CPU either way. Like osu! for example, you can render that at 1k fps regardless.

[dire igloo]

The difference is rendered vs interpolated imo
Calling them real frames is just an aid for explaining them

If you have a shooter running at 50fps, you can enable FrameGen to get 100fps.

However, your PC still only calculates a new game state every 20ms, despite you seeing a new frame every 10ms.
So if you click a head on a regular rendered frame, that input will not be used to calculate the next frame (because that frame will be FG-generated)

[bronze jasper]

i understand there is a difference, but all frames are fake. real frames is a misnomer. look that word up

[dire igloo]

And since FG has to withhold every single rendered frame until the next one is rendered, you will always have higher delay.
In the above example, your gameplay information will always be 20ms behind

[dire igloo]

I know what it means. It's a matter of interpretation really - and as I explained, it's an educational aid

[bronze jasper]

1 second is 1000ms

we've shaved so much off input latency in the vulkan and fast IPS age, we can afford 20ms in the render pipeline

we're still way ahaed of where things used to be

[dire igloo]

Your interpretation revolves around number 4, mine around number 2

[bronze jasper]

my interpretation revolves around 1, 2, 3, and 4 since no video game frames are actually photography. they're all generated at run time

[dire igloo]

It's an arms race.
If you have 20ms delay but your opponent doesn't, you're undeniably at a disadvantage.

That logic is bullshit imo.
"We have reduced lag elsewhere, so it's perfectly fine to add it back in"

[bronze jasper]

lol most games are not competitive online, and most gamers are not at the skill level where shaving 20ms matters

[bronze jasper]

not really. it's a render pipeline regardless. you're gaining more FPS and still have faster response times than say 5 years ago

[dire igloo]

Well, if this meaning is inherent to the term "frame", there has to be some reason to create this specific additional differentiation.
Like, idk, distinguishing rendered from generated

The axioms of communication

[bronze jasper]

i emplore you to investigate the word "misnomer" the same way you have "real"

but hey, if you're going to outright say i'm spewing bullshit, conversation over

[dire igloo]

Number 1 doesn't apply
2.1 kinda does apply, but it's the actual opposite of misleading, it tries to be explanatory
2.2 does not apply as explained above
2.3 maybe applies? idk

[verbal raft]

Semantics IMO
Call them whatever you want, doesn't change anything

[dire igloo]

I'm not saying you're spewing bullshit. I said your logic is bullshit.

If every video game frame is inherently not real, what communicative reason is there to still deliberately make a real/false distinction?

[bronze jasper]

i guess you're hyper fixated on "real" still. Because i cleared it up. Rasterized vs OTF interpolation. that's the real difference

[dire igloo]

I agree with the sentiment of criticizing misused words and false terminology (I hate it when people refer to QHD as WQHD or even 2K).
But in this case, insisting on correct terminology is harmful to the discussion because there is a good reason to make that distinction

[bronze jasper]

i guess you didn't read the whole message because you even tried to call them interpolated frames after i had

[dire igloo]

And good luck ever explaining that to someone whose understanding of FrameGen is "bigger number better"

[bronze jasper]

Technical discussions are the realm of semantics. there's no room for feelies here.

[verbal raft]

My point was That TAA doesn't look any better cuz you use FG

[dire igloo]

That's why I said it's an educational aid. It may not be correct but it's important to use for explaining the underlying issue

It makes the fundamental aspects easier to grasp

[bronze jasper]

i think it's more rooted in yellow journalism that appeals to emotion, than any kind of honest sense of educating people.

[dire igloo]

I did see your point, but you're arguing from the perspective of a discussion between techy people.
And I'm looking at it from the point of an educator who has to explain to people why FrameGen is not actually better for their Valorant gameplay

[dire igloo]

Maybe. But you could also argue that yellow journalism relies on dumbing down things with potentially inaccurate terminology for the sake of getting the point across - which is an educational tactic

[bronze jasper]

most valorant players aren't at the skill level where shaving 20ms helps them at all. there's a curve where increased fps will be funner for them until they skill up to the point where they have that reaction time needed to optimize their render pipeline for every precious ms.

if you have to educate them on the basics then they're not there yet.

[dire igloo]

Even in a zero emotion fully rational discussion, I will use the term "fake frames" to bridge the gap of technical knowledge

[bronze jasper]

thats because you're still appealing to emotion because it helps you "win" the newbs to your side. that's fine.

i'll still recognise misnomers where they are

[dire igloo]

So you're saying that becoming good at clicking heads will teach you about the inner workings of computer graphics?

[bronze jasper]

now that is some real bullshit logic. think i was right earlier to suggest this conversation is over. it certainly is now

[dire igloo]

I've talked to too many non-techy immo/radiant level players to say that you're just wrong.
They will have heard the term fake frames and that FG is bad, yes. But they won't actually know why that is

[dire igloo]

Why do I have to win anyone over?

Isn't your point "they either know already or they don't need to know"?
Because if it is, my experience in PC help communities has shown that to not be true

[dire igloo]

Of course that is bullshit logic. That's how I understood your point - that being good at the game means you know how the render pipeline works

[bronze jasper]

lol framegen is not going anywhere no matter how hard you try to "educate" people on it. its here for the long haul and renderpipelines will only move more towards generative systems. you'll find out.

[verbal raft]

also
do you guys think Nvidia will fix the worlds best power connector next gen ? ||[sarcasm]||

you all know the one
https://tenor.com/view/12vhpwr-burning-gpu-connector-4090-melting-5090-melting-gif-5389376741907012594

[dire igloo]

Now you're insinuating that I go out of my way to teach people about FG.
More often than not, they come to me or a community that I'm actively advising in and ask for explanation.

It ultimately does not matter whether FrameGen stays or goes away, I'm not advocating towards Nvidia.
I'm helping people who want to become better at what they do.
And I explain to them why it's a bad idea to deliberately downgrade their equipment.

[bronze jasper]

if those connectors were truly the menace that youtubers like to pretend they are, insurance companies would be sueing the balls off of nvidia for creating so many fires and recalls would be afoot. Nvidia is a trillion dollar corporation lawsuits don't just stay away from such money.

[dire igloo]

It's too easy to attribute 12vhpwr issues to user error

[bronze jasper]

did i say user error? cool.

[verbal raft]

the connectors themselves are foolishly designed

[verbal raft]

you could cut 5 wires and your GPU would still function
and could theoretically pull 600W on one wire AFAIK

[dire igloo]

You didn't. I did.
As an explanation why there are no lawsuits.
Insurance companies can deny claims because people didn't follow usage instructions.
Nvidia doesn't get sued because they can point to those same instructions.

[bronze jasper]

afaik amd is using the connector on their latest cards. i'm not sure why they wouldn't make a less foolish one if that was the case

with all the youtube hysteria around power delivery failures, amd would win over a large part of the market with that alone

[dire igloo]

It's designed to be run at capacity, 8-pin had quite a lot of electrical headroom.
Most 12vhpwr issues were just user error - and the primary criticisms are lack of electrical headroom and ease of making mistakes

[bronze jasper]

i imagine that designing a power connector is a cheaper R&D cycle than designing new silicon is

[dire igloo]

Their entire current gen has only three AIB models with 12vhpwr
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=598,596,591,592&Q=100,1000,2000

Maybe next gen will have it, idk
But people also said about rdna4 that it would use 12vhpwr by default

[bronze jasper]

i wouldn't be quick to assume that this is a comprehensive list

[verbal raft]

only some really high end 9070 XT's AFAIK (particularly from sapphire) most still use 8 pins
i think there has been someone whos 9070XT melted IDK if it was user error though
id assume its less likely for a 9070 to melt than a 5090/4090 though, since its pulling less power (same for 5070's and stuff)

[dire igloo]

Fair point. Doing the counter check: 90 RDNA4 GPUs listed on PCPP with some form of 6 or 8 pin pcie power
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=598,596,591,592&Q=1,2,10,11,20,21,30,40

And for the whole picture: 93 rdna4 GPUs total
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=598,596,591,592

[dire igloo]

I'm gonna support that assumption

[soft bloom]

It "reawakened" the talos principle,
But sort of killed Serius engine

[night girder]

It updated. Omg. Left it powered on all night long.

[languid gulch]

i haven't update my drivers from the december one, before they started throwing AI at it

[verbal raft]

im guessing they probably asked some in house AI to write the code

thats why it sucks

[languid gulch]

yup

[sharp matrix]

FG is a cool technology, biggest problem i see isnt the tech, its how down right god awful Nvidia marketing is about it, which if im being honest is nothing short of terrible, its a good example of good and actually useful tech, that has its impression so utterly destroyed because of terrible marketing

[dire igloo]

It's good and useful in a narrow set of usecases.
And it's being marketed as if everything was a usecase

[night girder]

🎉 RIP reddit NFT's? 🥳

[tawny herald]

they should make a thing that tells you to be better

[jagged snow]

I need a faster network switch

[pure karma]

how? dont you have a ridiculous switch with like 24 ports or something already?

[night girder]

ffs, asrock...

it's been a year now and you still pushing bios updates for "stability"...

• Memory P-State set to Disabled by default: improves memory compatibility and stability.
• Adjust VDDCR_SOC Voltage parameters: enhances CPU operating stability.

Honestly, not a great first experience with Asrock tbh.

[languid gulch]

asrock was having a bit of a resurgence in rep before this

i'm just glad i haven't seen anything pop up about any of my new stuff

i mean, besides the dumbass 12VHPWR

[night girder]

I am looking into a new motherboard since last week. Planning to replace it around christmas. Just collecting some crash data atm so I can check if new motherboard fixes the issue.

I don't hold my breath that any bios system is able to make my system stable. So I gave up hope on that front. All I know is that it's not going to be Assrock.

[soft bloom]

what's am5? new socket?

ok, lol
I thought I was keeping tabs on amd, but AM5 completely went past my eyes

[jagged snow]

Only two generations

And that's probably because it's very similar to AM4

Very similar footprint, even uses the same cooler mounting system

[warm blade]

Is the KB5063878 update affecting SATA SSD's? Roblox isn't launching and Im pretty sure that its because of a older version of windows...

[jagged snow]

The issues that have been reported wouldn't cause a single program to fail to launch

[warm blade]

Then idk why I cant launch it. I am really pissed cause a game that Im trying to join is updating and I cannot do anything cause roblox is now magically not working.

[night girder]

Why are so many people misinformed on the issue? If I think it's the same issue I think it is?

[mental oriole]

Because... not tech savvy.

Iirc it only affected SSDs when doing sequential writes over 50GB.

[night girder]

Microsoft has found no link between the August 2025 KB5063878 security update and customer reports of failure and data corruption issues affecting solid-state drives (SSDs) and hard disk drives (HDDs).

[warm blade]

"We investigated ourselves thoroughly and found ourselves not guilty"

[night girder]

🤣

But what I read is, that problem occured when writing 50GB+ to disk.

[mental oriole]

That's what people reported at least. But what do I know. I don't run windows anymore (except laptop and that one have not gotten the update yet) But I'm nuking it soon to linux either way :))

[night girder]

Yeah, I am not sure what to think either.

[warm blade]

https://youtube.com/shorts/6el1o058rqg?si=jkhjeizaKGO--V0V
Check this out btw.

[night girder]

Not 100% sure, but how can a windows update, cause large writes to corrupt a SSD?

[mental oriole]

You just don't get free frames. Also shorts so not watching.

[mental oriole]

Very poor quality control. Which I doubt a multi billion company has.

[night girder]

No. Technical how?

[mental oriole]

But things can somehow "magically" slip through.

[warm blade]

Not "free frames", Its just that Zack said that a 50's card feature is coming to the 40's cards

[night girder]

OS != driver = hardware. Those are all separated.

[mental oriole]

So the title is clickbait, got it.

[night girder]

And the fact they think it affects certain controllers more is even more weird...

[mental oriole]

True as well, can't test all the combinations.

[warm blade]

Its shorts, ofc it will be

[night girder]

So I am not sure if it's 100% windows update fault.

[mental oriole]

Like I said don't watch that crap. Shorts should be thrown into the bin.

[warm blade]

What do you think? That we live in a normal society? Hell nah

[night girder]

People found out by updating Cyberpunk right? Maybe it's Cyberpunks fault

[mental oriole]

Iirc the test was zipping the game and un-zipping it.

[mental oriole]

This world needs less brainrot.

[night girder]

I am looking forward to a video that explains what happened 😄

But gamernexus is too bussy fighting the world 🙁

Already forgot the company that copystrikes him. Forbes? Something something forgetable.

[warm blade]

I usually dont look at shorts, its just that this came on my fyp cuz tech

[mental oriole]

thiojoe has a video, but it was kind of "poor" explainer it. Just saying you should "probably" un-install the update. (And showcased the snips from the issue of doing the cyberpunk transfer)

[night girder]

That's why I said GN, becasue they go deep.

[mental oriole]

Mmm

[night girder]

They probably test it out 1000x times to;

1. Confirm it or deny the issue.
2. IF there is an issue, investigate what happened.
3. IF windows update is not related, explain that too.

[mental oriole]

Bloomberg can go <redacted>

[night girder]

I just want to know how, technical, a OS update can wreck a SSD.

[night girder]

You saw the video of them being chased by the Bloomberg security?

[mental oriole]

Yup.

[night girder]

Security guard: "you have no business here" - GN: "Well, you made it my bussiness when you copystriked us" 🤣

Security guard 🤐

[pure karma]

yea same here only lga1200 vulnerabilities with the like 400 something motherboards but thats unavoidable at that scale

[bronze jasper]

In this case, anyone else can also investigate the issue and prove microsoft wrong. It's in their best interest to get it right the first time. if there was a link they'd have fixed it. Nobody has been able to reproduce the SSD corruption since the claims. It's all just been conjecture

[sterile plinth]

@twin dew lets go, I fixed my problem! So pretty much, I made a new partition and installed windows on it

And magically, my original broken windows installation started working too

[night girder]

Baldur sleeping probably.

[visual tree]

Or having a sauna like every normal finn

[night girder]

how to spot a finish army mobilizing 🤣

[languid gulch]

i'm from arizona, i can't imagine voluntarily making yourself hot

this was us this week

[visual tree]

We had saharan dust recently. Woke up today only to find out my car is covered in yellow dust and had to rinse it

[sterile plinth]

has happened here in greece too

Man something is seriously wrong with my chair

It looks like a normal chair, but when I sit on it my bottommost vertebrae starts hurting like crazy after 20 mins whenever I move it

after 20 MINUTES of sitting in the chair

In school i obviously go hours without such pain, its weird

[jagged snow]

Nas drives acquired

[pure karma]

are oyu trying to make a data center

network switch too slow, storage drives...

a wild linus staring at you in the distance probably

[jagged snow]

Hm?

[lyric wagon]

Just repairing my PC

You want to touch it, don't you? -Duke Nukem

[sterile plinth]

Here

Looks like a normal chair, but it's very painful to sit on even for half an hour

Can't figure out why

[bronze jasper]

bees

[thin trout]

painful where

that looks like it doesn't provide useful lumbar or am support

[lyric wagon]

I'm up updating to Windows 11 right now

[pure karma]

4 years ahead of you but welcome to the club

[bronze jasper]

theres tabs now!

[bronze jasper]

i've heard of this but i've never experienced it

i only power down my pc once every week or two. sleep mode every night

[pure karma]

iv managed to revert windows 11 to windows 7 icons by pure overloading

thats about the peak of my breaking

edged it on the crash line so perfectly it faileld to bluescreen but dident crash fully so it reverted all the aesthetics stuff to bluescreen but dident and nerver fixed itself

but its still there...

[safe trench]

this little someone might have

[twin dew]

Well, Sauna tents are much more portable.

[languid gulch]

dumb question time again

is there a way to run multi monitor as an extended desktop without it defaulting to the lowest resolution or refresh rate

[twin dew]

I have never had that kind of problem?
Refresh rate always defaults to 60Hz with my current monitors, even as singles, but that is monitor EDID preference.

[languid gulch]

got one that's 144Hz, another at 75

they're kind of a similar size, but windows & nvidia don't seem to care, so even though one is 1440p and the other is 1080p, but similar physical heights, the monitor side-by-side software stuff makes the 1080p one like 30% smaller

makes it annoying when it comes to jumping from one to the other

[twin dew]

Hope you got them from reputable source.
There has been giant problems with used Exos drives with reset usage statistics making it into normal retail channels even in EU.
Might be detectable with Seagate FARM data still being intact when SMART has been reset, but after that came public, the FARM data started to be scrubbed too.

And those seem to be manufactured in 2017?
So very likely those are used.

Unless you intentionally bought used drives.

[safe trench]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/seagate-spins-up-a-raid-on-a-counterfeit-hard-drive-workshop-authorities-read-criminals-writes-while-they-spill-the-beans this will be an ltt video in 3 years

[languid gulch]

they mentioned it on the WAN show last week

[safe trench]

yes i have infact noticed

i was in acutal shock when i hear csf was coming back

at least on floatplane

[soft bloom]

well, i never heard of multimonitor solution that would account for physical size
I made peace with the fact that 2160 is slightly bigger than 1920
though I am realising now that second monitor is used way way less now
having a good hold of 4k offers way more utility than physically splitting workspace

and window managers can offer more tile configurations to work with

and usually big monitors have a way to split themselves with firmware

for any work application, you will like having two of 9:16 sitting close to eachother more then two 16:9
for any reading&writing text anyway, it's just close to a book format

[twin dew]

Time to try to fuck up my main computer OS by finally forcing it to update to 24H2 from 23H2.

Originally waited for upgrade prompt, but still didn't get one.
Probably just Enterprise versions not getting those yearly updates automatically, ever.

[dire igloo]

Pro tip: make the window alignment in windows in the middle, not top or bottom.
Gives you a small bump in the corners, but by far the best workaround I've found

[languid gulch]

just annoying

windows/nvidia can clearly ID the monitor models, but is magically unable to translate that into relative dimensions

[twin dew]

MS would need to code functionality that cared about DPI/physical size.
And while in theory EDID contains both physical size, DPI and resolution, but many monitors contain wrong information for physical size and/or DPI.

[soft bloom]

could accept manual entry at this point

[twin dew]

Yeah, but point was that MS would need to code the base functionality.
And then also way to manually override the EDID provided information for physical size.

And they haven't bothered yet, as the percentage of users with multimonitor setups with dissimilar monitors is rounding error in total Windows users.

Large percentage in home poweruser community, but rounding error in total users.

[soft bloom]

well they bothered with making it look like opilot userbase is large...
users should demand better

[dire igloo]

You just need resolution, size and manual override for each.
We have it for resolution, why not for size too?

I wonder if someone made a third party tool for that

[visual tree]

Maybe I should install sauna in the garden as my next project after installing solar panels next year. I think wood finnish sauna is better than the electric imo although it's not as enviromentally friendly as the electric one

[visual tree]

@night girder https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kiSNDn5hzD0

They still had to hire employees to monitor AI and interfere if they notice it doesn't work as expected (and it doesn't) 🤣

[soft bloom]

which is basically proving concept of "junior dev" replacement of AI

question is - where are they going to find next generation of supervisor-level stuff

[visual tree]

I wonder what AI "thinks" mountain dew actually is lol

Unless Taco Bell offers mountain dew ice cream and AI interpreted a customer wanted "a large mountain dew" ice cream and asked if they want a drink with that

Another theory: AI was designed expecting customer to order meal first and then drinks after

And the customer just wanted mountain dew which AI interpreted as "meal" and proceeded to ask if the customer wants a drink later

[soft bloom]

Looks like training set problem

Sometimes i see devs trying to be strict with how customers should interact
And then it just backfires as they spend more time designing and implementing strict rules only to anyway get bugs and customer complains

Wait, where's ai in that? Seems more like speech to text and reverse

[sterile plinth]

bottommost vertebrae

my lowest bone in my spine hurts like crazy whenever I try to get up from a chair or sit on one

and that pain can last for hours after I have sat on this accursed chair

[soft bloom]

reminder that making more then $50 a day is "high income" which corresponds to top 7%,
aka you could split population into groups of 14 and you would be the reachest in your group, with 13 other people having less income
less by how much? 2 poor and 8 low income ones have less then $80 in total (that's very generous estimate)
https://www.pewresearch.org/global-migration-and-demography/feature/global-population-by-income/

[soft bloom]

Does it hurt on soft sofa or hard wooden chair?

[night girder]

Classic 🤣

AI revolution is going well

[dire igloo]

Business school. There will always be managers.
But where do they get senior level engineers?

[dire igloo]

This dismisses the aspect of relative poverty.
Just because you're in the top 93rd percentile for income doesn't mean you get to actually live a rich life

I've seen people collect a miserable pension from low income work who were living like kings cuz they moved to the Philippines

The big mac index became a thing for good reason

[sterile plinth]

i noticed it did hurt on my barbers chair which is one of these soft ones

so id guess in most soft surfaces, but specifically this chair i have for pc

hard chairs dont hurt at all

[wanton orchid]

mouse sensitivity and stuff is resolution dependent

[jagged snow]

I did
And the smart data matches exactly what I'd expect from what they were used for. It doesn't look perfect but it's good enough that I'm comfortable putting them in a nas.

[soft bloom]

senior engineers often need to supervise others, even without management education or direct amangement responsibilities
that's what I meant, and you agree that's not fixed by business schools

[dire igloo]

That's not disciplinary supervision, that's just juniors requiring senior guidance

And yeah, that ain't a business school thing, it's not about personell management

[twin dew]

And that Windows upgrade didn't work because of issues with user profiles.
Followed bad instructions to fix it and nuked all my profile folder data.
I have backups, but making backups of backups before trying to restore...

[night girder]

What?

[twin dew]

Windows saw my user as two different users, one as Unknown User with Backup status.
And removing that deleted everything under Windows profile directory.

[night girder]

Yikes.

[twin dew]

Should have looked closer before following along.

[night girder]

Reliable source your followed? (known website vs AI generated website) 😛

[twin dew]

My mistake in what to use, and not looking closely enough, and at alternatives.

So I got backups from 10 hours ago, so nothing lost but restore time.
As I hadn't done anything in that time that would need to be retained.

Basically I didn't think, and fucked up.
So just as warning.

[night girder]

So not a reliable source Shit happens.

[twin dew]

Normal help forum stuff, in this case shitty advice.
Should have gone with the registry editing in some of the alternative threads.

I'm nowhere near infallable, especially when tired like right now, to taking bad advice to new situations.

[night girder]

only normal, dumbest stuff I do sometimes is when I am really really tired.

Also, most accidents I see happen when it comes to work related stuff is when people are tired.

lucky you got backups 😉

[twin dew]

Not enough backup layers at this time.
Still need to setup NAS & backups to NAS, and then I want to also get encrypted cloud backups for specific stuff.

Ok, doing the just in case backup of the File History store was unnecessary in the end.
Just that when the profile was wiped, the File History also got disabled and you couldn't restore anything automatically without re-enabling.

And didn't want to take chance that re-enable would do something weird to the existing backups.

[twin dew]

Need to go through various Windows settings tomorrow and redo some logins etc.
But almost back to normal.

[twin dew]

Configurable.

But highly recommended to be kept on.

I should make separate Admin account, and downgrade the main account to just normal user.

Both are from UAC.

[night girder]

Was thinking to do the same for my mothers laptop 🤣

restricting the account so nothing can be installed without me.

that...

I whish there was a way to duplicate settings from an account. Because I set up the main account (put settings how I like it).

And I am not in the mood to do it a second time.

So I looked up if one can duplicate the settings from one account to another when making it, but that's not possible afaik.

[twin dew]

Not without some outside program, or registry export, pruning and reimport.

[night girder]

Yeah, one would think this would be a feature

[twin dew]

MS explicitly doesn't have any options even in Group Policy to force different profile settings, even as default and not locked...

They want to force everyone to their own defaults, everywhere...

But anyways, main computer now on 24H2.

[twin dew]

As in I a while ago created five almost identical Windows users for non-profits common use computer for different subgroups of people.
PAIN.

At least for major browsers, most of the defaults could be configured via group policy.

[night girder]

I employed child labour

My niece did the clicking. I just told her what to do.

was first time she installed W11

but still, I don't want to go through the settings again.

[twin dew]

You really don't need to.
As the point is to just use that accounts permissions from your normal one.

Instead of click type UAC prompt, you just get one that wants that accounts password instead.

[night girder]

my normal one?

[twin dew]

You keep your current account.
You create new admin account, but never actually fully log into it.
Then you change your current user accounts rights level from Admin to User.

Well, might need to log into that new admin account once, to do that downgrade.

And then you just continue like so far, just needing to input that second accounts password any time admin rights are needed, instead of simpler UAC prompt.

[night girder]

Don;'t you get permission issues?

[twin dew]

That is the point, when admin is needed, Windows prompts for that other accounts login, and uses its rights.

From your normal low level account.

No different in Windows eyes from your current admin right account normally working as base user, and needing UAC elevation to use the admin level rights it has.
Just with different account giving those admin level rights with password input each time.

Been seamless IIRC since Windows 7.

If not even already in Vista.

[night girder]

not what I meant.

User 1 (current Admin) makes folders. User 2 (becomes also admin).

User 1 gets demoted to normal user.

Everything that user 1 made, doesn't cause issues?

I just ran into something llike that once I believe

[twin dew]

No?
Because by default Windows gives access to both the user making the thing, and "Administrators" group, that includes everyone working at Admin level.

[night girder]

but not sure where, wasn't windows.

[twin dew]

If you log into that Admin user, and try to access things, it doesn't work.
Until that UAC elevation to actually use the admin rights, unless you remove that from the folder permissions manually.
But that same elevation then works from your normal account too.

The single possibly major downside is, that programs run at admin level will use settings saved under that Admin user, not the normal users.
But as most things are run as one, or the other, not both, that shouldn't usually matter.

Need to see how it affects WinGet, made the change already as test on the secondary computer, as it is trivial to revert.

And Regedit needs different runs depending if you are editing CURRENT_USER or LOCAL_MACHINE
Or editing HKEY_USERS\weird string\ instead while running regedit as admin.

[twin dew]

By default various Unix/Linux/BSD systems run much more limited permission system.
Where you have one user specific permission set, and one user group specific permission set per file/directory.
But superusers (user id 0, root as the default single one) have access to everything even then.
And you can then use su or sudo to get superuser rights as needed, depending on setup.

UAC is similar idea as that, but without password prompting if "same" user.
While sudo asks the users own password again when first run, and again after set timeout if you run it multiple times in same base user session.

And by default most current Linux distros etc. use per-user groups, so only that single user by default has access to any files.
Unless chgrp or like is used, or the third "everyone" permissions (which I almost forgot) are set to allow access.

But of to bed ->

[night girder]

good night 👋

[pure karma]

ISP trying not to suck challenge is literally impossible

paying gigabit prices for this

[karmic socket]

just threaten to sue them ^^

[pure karma]

its too much effort

[bronze jasper]

I would suggest that anytime you have to make huge user permission changes like that, backup all the data you want to keep and format. Start your OS with the proper user permission table instead of hoping that legacy bloat doesn't cause issues.

[sterile plinth]

holy shit im so tired of ntfs

15 minutes to delete 100mb of files

it was just tons of small files

but wow this is so shit (dont forget that i have to wait another 15 mins for them to be wiped off of recycle bin0

[sterile plinth]

.

[jagged snow]

Shift + del just deletes files instead of moving them to the recycle bin

Its mucb much faster

Traveled home for the holiday weekend to visit my parents, they were complaining of slow internet...
They're getting around 1/2 the rated download speed and 1/4 the upload that they pay for

[sharp oasis]

Absolute chonker.
6900XT OCF 506w (2.97ghz core 2.15ghz vram)
5800X 175w (5.05ghz)

Tokisaki kurumi (it's the figurine)

All for muh buddy

[safe trench]

what happened to that gpu

[pure karma]

ofc theres a figurine

[sharp oasis]

Swapped it to 3x 120 p12m

Runs cooler and quieter that way

[sharp oasis]

Why not

[soft bloom]

I have question to what the side fans are doing in this setup

[sharp oasis]

That's the gpu

Modded the GPU with a deshroud and Arctic P12m's

[soft bloom]

No no the case's side fans

You got 4 sets of 3 fans

[sharp oasis]

Front intake

Positive pressure. And a bit of extra airflow.

(not having them or having them off actually really hurts temps)

[dire igloo]

I kinda wanna know how that wasn't apparent from the pic

[visual tree]

Metal Gear Solid Delta: Frame eater https://youtu.be/wR75eFHXDH0

[night girder]

funny video, now let's see AMD

[visual tree]

This one is with RX 9070 XT https://youtu.be/RQUcbQJMHCU?si=G1iqfIEFhtN54iVs

[night girder]

rofl

[visual tree]

I hate this timeline where owning a high-end GPU and CPU means nothing

[twin dew]

Well, that dip was from not preloading the data for the cutscene thingie.
So it stuttered on switch from gameplay to cutscene and back.

Still horrible, but that specific number is useless.

[night girder]

in the last video it's not.

it just dips to 30 seconds while character is shooting a tree.

and the person who recorded nuked all graphics to lowest.

[twin dew]

Ok, yeah, it already did that at that point, sorry.

[twin dew]

Looked at the later point when he does assassination

When the game stutters, and the talk about the lows only starts after that.

[night girder]

I warned about this ages ago. Beefy hardware = lazy developers ("Why do we need to optimize for beefy hardware, it's all good").

Old days = shit hardware = high IQ developers doing crazy optimization.

[sharp matrix]

to be honest, it never did to begin with

high end hardware has always meant = infinite money sink

[visual tree]

At this point, we are going to invent a time-travel machine so we can buy a GPU 5 years in the future from now and play new releases

[twin dew]

Also combine in too large teams, no-one actually in charge of overall performance, and exec level cheaping out.

No-one who can go for overall optimization work, when everything is siloed.

[sharp matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qOeFkVWWTo

[night girder]

Oh no. A game, that feels exactly the same as previous game, with a little bit nicer graphics and a lot of worse performance.

[sharp matrix]

yeah another modern game, that runs badly

[twin dew]

But "nice" when people blame UE5.
When the actual problem is just that UE5 makes it very easy for devs to shoot themselves in the foot and get horrible performance.
If they take the marketing at face value and don't actually follow the engine documentation.

[night girder]

And then I sometimes wonder why developers don't let me do whatever I want when developing.

And now we know why, because without the training wheels, we fuck it up.

So UE6 will probably be more opinionated so developers can do less wrong. Atleast, let's hope.

[sharp matrix]

game developers are presently looking for the training wheels I take it

[visual tree]

Devs today are like: "Let's overhype the game, release it even though it's not ready so we can earn profit asap and not worry about optimization. We planned to fix that with patches anyways"

[twin dew]

Again, with the Nanite example.
The marketing was that you don't need to do LODs anymore.
The documentation tells that you need to make the highest level LOD, and the engine will do the lower levels from that.
But devs instead put the ultra-high-full-detail artist models in, and don't do the expected manual drop to ingame "full-detail" model either, causing horrible performance.

[sharp matrix]

not sure thats going to be realistic with 95% of sales gone, because anybody that would buy the game now, already knows the game runs like garbage, so probably not going to buy it

[twin dew]

Where that artist model is 100-10000x too high polygon level compared to the "full-detail" LOD version.

[night girder]

Devs today; let's push out this unfinished product. Ask 29.99 for it and call it early access.

then the fools that buy the game will test our game for us, win win win win for us.

lose lose lose lose for the gamers. But who cares?

After 10 years, we release the game in a "finished state".

Nobody will play it by then because everyone moved on to the next early access hype. But we have our 💰

I remember, when being part of beta testers, was a privilige that didn't cost me any money.

[sharp matrix]

Not sure this is working out, monster hunter wilds is now at mostly negative for recent reviews, at 29% positive

[night girder]

I remember times where QA got paid to test games.

[sharp matrix]

like it or not, those negative rates are really going to hurt long term sales

[night girder]

Now idiots are paying companies... to work for them? 🤔 It should be illigal imo.

Nobody releases a "car" in early access. Or anything else in the world.

[visual tree]

Perfect example is No Man's Sky which was terrible at release and later became decent game through years and updates. I don't want to buy a game and then wait for new content few years later....

[night girder]

Nah, they file complain at steam it's bot posting negative.

[sharp matrix]

basically recent reviews wilds is getting nuked right into the floor

[night girder]

Then steam cleans it all up and the chart will look possitive.

Steam fucks with the review system all the time. It's not really trustworthy. Still a good indicator.

Steam reviews is my first indicator I check. Then I got to review sites. Then I look up YT reviews.

[sharp matrix]

idk most of these negatives reviews are about its garbage performance and looks accurate review wise

[night girder]

If all three say; avoid. I avoid 😄

[night girder]

Steam removes negative reviews.

also steam changed reviews a week ago I believe.

[sharp matrix]

idk 31,000 negatives reviews still up from February

[night girder]

It's very ugly.

Because we all love it, when reviews are being controlled/filtered/biased by a company.

It's the same how some countries have a "free market" and the invisible hand. While there are 100 hands controlling that market 🤣

[sharp matrix]

oh and its at 129k positive reviews, 147k negative reviews, looking good so far

[night girder]

On paper; good idea. In reality; it's shit and not executed like it should.

Btw; the change is language for reviews.

On Monday, Steam announced that it would be changing how it evaluates user reviews around titles, shifting its emphasis towards language-specific averages that would better match the cultural context of what specific users are looking for.

[sharp matrix]

somehow metal gear solid is still very positive on steam, probably not for long

[night girder]

The whole world; but now people will just write in a different language to fuck with the system.

Like english speaking people, spamming reviews in chinese to fuck with em

[thin trout]

the 360p bit doesn't really matter because he's CPU bound. Could most likely go 720-1080 with the same fps

[visual tree]

If someone told me we are going to have a trend where people plan to buy new hardware 5 years in the future in order to play games that have been released today in order to have playable performance, I would have laughed at them

[sharp matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuStEOalwtw, so much for the 5090 being a 4k card, cant even maintain 60 fps

so does this mean the 5090 = 1440p card now

[night girder]

it's not the 5090. Game is optimized like 💩

[sharp matrix]

well its trying to do 60 fps, its just not working very well

[night girder]

It must feel frustrating though. Pour all the money into a system and you cannot play your favorite game without stutters.

[visual tree]

I'm glad Kojima left Konami and started his own company. Konami is just a shell of it's former self

[wanton orchid]

always have been

[night girder]

Eh ... I hope Kojima will shine. But I have little hope for it.

I think we had the best the man had to offer.

https://tenor.com/view/death-stranding-2-walking-scenery-beautiful-vistas-gif-17156487399882256357

[visual tree]

Better than working with Konami though

I really enjoyed Death Stranding and hope DS2 will be released for PC in 2026

[night girder]

Meta is adding more security measures to its AI chatbots so that they no longer flirt with minors or talk about topics such as suicide. The company is doing this after its AI policy came under fire several times earlier this month.

[sharp matrix]

I personally liked death stranding, no idea how the sequel is

[night girder]

Another day in AI paradise.

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[night girder]

I read possitive reviews about sequal.

[sharp matrix]

hope so, would like to enjoy its sequel when it comes out for pc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbFIUu_7LIc

time to never do windows updates ever again

[twin dew]

"Different Phison controller than reported"?
When the original report contained SSDs with multiple different Phison controllers, and several other makers controllers...
Jayz again going just with many steps removed partial information....

[sharp matrix]

and it gets better because the feature install updates you can't uninstall, so now your stuck with a permanent problem you can't get rid of, windows updates truly terrify me now

probably should just put a beware sticker on the entire windows update process.....

[twin dew]

Ok, the actual slide then lists the various different ones in original report, but the speech doesn't match.

And Phison E25 in his case.

[sharp matrix]

be like beware, update windows, find out what is wrong, maybe keep a recovery usb ready to go

[night girder]

Wait.

Phison said; we found no issues. Microsoft said twice; we found no issue.

[twin dew]

There is issue, but Phison and Microsoft haven't been able to replicate.
So there is very likely some extra requirements beside just specific workload and specific drive.

That isn't known, and the test systems that Phison and Microsoft have used don't hit those unknown extra criteria.

[night girder]

You think. Because non of this has been confirmed. Just guesstimate in the dark.

I wait for official reports. Or actual proof. #off-topic-tech message

[twin dew]

That on specific systems, specific people can reliably cause SSD to drop out until full power cycle?
Which only started to happen on that new Windows update, and goes away when they downgrade to previous version.

How widespread is not known.
What actually causes it isn't known.
And Phison and Microsoft say they cannot replicate.
Some third party people can replicate.

[night girder]

Also, J2C says; I can't produce the problem with large writes (as everyone was claiming) but when I do benchmark, the SSD fails.

[twin dew]

With different controller from the previously reported ones.

[night girder]

Further giving me thought that this is all still looking in the dark.

[twin dew]

Yes, it is working in the dark.

[night girder]

Because first everyone was like; "oooh large writes cause it" ... and now it appears that's not the case?

Doesn't sound very scientific.

Where there is smoke, there is probably fire. But the cause of the fire is unknown.

[twin dew]

There is issue, no-one knows what actually causes it.
Just that in specific systems, with specific drives, specific loads cause it to happen reliably.

[night girder]

also J2C didn't seem to revert to old update. To see if problem occurs.

[twin dew]

Just that one part is needing that latest update.

[night girder]

Just benchmark on new update with phison controller ssd.

and then benchmark on new updatge with micron controller ssd.

[twin dew]

J2C is entertainment.

Even more than LinusTechTips.

[night girder]

Yeah, I am reading article here that J2C is saying Microsoft and Phison are wrong.

So he better have stuff to back it up.

[twin dew]

MS and Phison haven't said it isn't happening.
Just that they haven't been able to replicate.

And when they cannot replicate, they cannot really find the cause, so the cause cannot be fixed.

[night girder]

Microsoft has been investigating social media reports that solid-state drives (SSD) and hard-disk drives (HDD) might disappear from the OS or become unreadable after installing the August 12, 2025 Windows security update, KB5063878, for Windows 11, version 24H2. One report indicated that this might occur when writing large files—50 GB or more—to drives over 60% full.

We have been actively working with our storage device partners to try to reproduce the issue. At the time of original publication, neither internal testing nor **telemetry **suggested an increase in disk failure or file corruption. Microsoft customer support teams also haven’t received reports of customers experiencing this issue.

copy/paste from official report.

[twin dew]

And telemetry wouldn't show anything in case like this?

[night girder]

Bro. Read it fully. Costumer support don't receive more issues either.

Internal testing doesn't find anything atm.

Physon doesn't find anything at the moment.

Resolution: After thorough investigation, Microsoft has found no connection between the August 2025 Windows security update and the types of hard drive failures reported on social media.

And telemetry can show it in numbers.

If 80% updates. And only 10% comes back online after a few days.

Then one should worry what happened to the other 70% that didn't come back online after update. (dead ssd's)

[twin dew]

No, telemetry cannot show it.
It would only show up as BSODs, not as drive failures.

[night girder]

Or if they see that 70% come sback online with new SSD. One could think; did 70% of our people buy a new ssd after update? wtf happened.

[twin dew]

When the "fix" is just to power cycle?

No new SSD needed, data is intact.

[night girder]

I am just saying. Telemetry can show things.

[twin dew]

nor telemetry suggested an increase in disk failure or file corruption.
When disk failures or file corruption aren't the symptom?

[night girder]

People were claiming dead ssd's and stuff.

[twin dew]

In classic type.

[twin dew]

In very small numbers compared to the "disappears until power cycle" variant.
On specific less used SSD and/or controller type.

With very specific weird load.

[night girder]

Like I said; I wait for more official statements or reliable sources.

I did push that update to a laptop a few days ago and there was some weird stuff going on.

The update was about 10GB and took 4-5 hours on a brand clean laptop.

And I think, Microsoft nuked the IO operations of that update to prevent SSD problems. But that's just a hunch.

Because it was all so slow. And I was monitoring the network, and it wasn't my download or upload speed.

all the previous updates atmost took an hour. But that latest update KB5063878 took long ass time for no apparant reason.

I haven't installed it on this system though. Don't need more problems for this one 🤣

[dire igloo]

That wording gives me "moving the goalposts" vibes

Tho I guess it's hard for them to have data that would show such an issue

[night girder]

All I know is.

Microsoft sees more than we do. Like it or not.

[dire igloo]

Yeah. But I wouldn't accuse them of lying

[twin dew]

But power user problems easily get hidden in the corporate system & normal home user OEM system data.

Same happens lot with the feedback system of theirs.

That important issues have slipped under the radar because they don't get enough "upvotes", compared to "we want this nice to have bling" "issues".

[dire igloo]

Yup.
And having to power cycle easily gets overlooked in the multitudes of people with irregular usage

[twin dew]

Yup.

And also, people who know about the problem won't complain direct to MS Support, as they know that support is useless.

And expect that the issue is known already at MS, so why bother.

[dire igloo]

And people who know about the workaround will just apply it without talking to anyone

I've encountered that kind of tech support "issue" in the past.

[twin dew]

Also, that is PR department statement.

Not technical side.

[night girder]

And what does community have? As proof. Not much better than the PR statement of Microsoft.

It just irks me, the finger pointing so fast to Microsoft and Phison.

That's why I said earlier that I whished gamernexus would investigate.

Because if they made a video and could proof it, it would be technical, with lots of testing etc. Just better constructed.

[twin dew]

That there is something weird going on, that causes some SSDs in some specific systems on some loads to disappear until power cycle.
With one part of it being need for Windows 11 24H2 with that specific cumulative update installed.
And some did test that it goes away with Win 11 24H2 without that latest update.

[sharp matrix]

yeah, even though jayz has showed...something is going on, its still difficult to really say definitely beyond what he said, that a update seemed to have caused it?

[twin dew]

Well, as part.
There are also some NVMe SSDs that exhibit similar behavior in Linux and/or BSD NAS systems with ZFS for example.

Might be separate, might be from same base cause.

[sharp matrix]

really feels like we are still mostly in the dark as far as what that something really is right now

[twin dew]

Yes, that there is something weird going on, but no-one knows what combination of factors actually causes it.
Because the people who can trigger it at will don't have enough hardware to test combinations of hardware.
And Phison and MS test systems don't hit some unknown requirement.

Might be HW requirement beside the SSD, might only affect some of the same model SSDs, might need some specific OS side stuff etc.

Like only happens on some specific models of MB/chipset, or with specific BIOS/UEFI settings (tuneable or non-tuneable by user), or some specific extra software installed, or specific sequence of OS updates etc.

Or some weird combination of previous.

[twin dew]

The original testing that this list is from was probably all done on single or few systems.
And might all have used same OS install.

But the exact HW details for the rest of the system weren't posted AFAIK.

This is why MS ***USED ***to have huge HW testing lab where all the updates went through testing before being published.
With thousands of different HW combination systems.
That was closed to save money.

At same time most of their QA people got fired too.

[night girder]

QA: costs money.
Users: give money and do free QA.

From a business perspective, second option is best right

[sharp matrix]

So all games are going EA I take it, welcome to free QA

[twin dew]

From MBA perspective, when just looking at short term.

Killed so many companies in last 30 years.
When at some point finally the "captive" customers have enough of that and pay the costs to switch to something else.
Not referring to consumers, but enterprise level.

Which is why MS is using consumers as the QA for most part, delaying any updates before they hit Enteprise customers.
Trying to delay that effect.

[night girder]

Big companies with monopolies can do whatever they fuck the want.

and US companies in EU

There is no alternatives to go too. And I slap anyone with a trout if they say Linux 🤣

Same with Nvidia/AMD. If one fucks up. What does a costumer do? Go to other side. But what if both sides fuck it up?

[twin dew]

But point is, there are alternatives to everything that MS sells.
Just that the costs to switch are HUGE, so long as the experience is acceptable, customers stay.
But as the quality goes down, at some point you get very large, often coordinated looking, shift to something else.
And at that point, the name and reputation of the company is gone, and will usually take 10+ years to get back, and most companies just die, as they cannot last long enough to get back into the game.

[night girder]

And Intel. Too much monopolies for HW.

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/troutslap-gif-24400969

[twin dew]

I'll try to look up the name of that "effect" once I get back.
Now I have to head out.

[night girder]

Also funny. That KB5063878 is __forced __
So I have my updates paused for a month. And suddenly I couldn't click the button to pause anymore.
It said I had to download KB5063878 with a red exclamation mark. But I leave my PC on lately to test my system stability. So it never had the chance to update.

Now a few day later, my PC crashed (totally normal for my system) and when I booted, red exclamation mark was gone AND I could press pause updates again. So that's what I did. It's actual a bug that I can prevent my system from updating to KB5063878.

And still people don't understand why people like me, like to have control over the updates. "Just leave the system update whenever it wants bruh." How about; no.

[visual tree]

Reviews look promising. Hope this means we are getting PC release next year

Higher score than DS1 from what I see

[night girder]

IGN is not reliable imo 🤣

I tend to go for aggregated reviews.

Then I look at amount of critic reviews and user ratings to see if it makes any sense (if 2 reviewed an it's 100% it not reliable imo).

[visual tree]

Still very high 👍

[night girder]

Yeah, game is received well.

[visual tree]

Found some old pictures of my dad's ship and trips while he was working as a chief engineer before retiring

And some manual where I don't understand 99% of content 😅

[verbal raft]

so the FSR 2/3 devs tried to fix FSR 2/3 but some corporate dumbass stupped them
BRUH

[twin dew]

And wasn't able to find the name of the thingie quickly, as it is mostly B2B side thing and don't remember example company names or anything like that right now...
So search engines just give unrelated results.

[languid gulch]

dumb question: if i'm not overclocking my cpu, should i turn down my AIO pump speed

[sharp oasis]

Iirc aio pumps are generally meant to be run at full speed 24/7

[languid gulch]

just watched a JTC vid where he tore down an 12 year old rig, and had the FX8320 being cooled by a D5 running at 2 out of 7, was wondering if that kind of lower power would apply to an AIO

[sharp oasis]

If I remember correctly the lifetime rating of the pump is based off being run at 100% 24/7 and usually it's like 30-80k hours lifetime?

[languid gulch]

yea but that applies to people with standard luck, not my dogshit type

[sharp oasis]

Probably might help backing it down a bit

What aio

[languid gulch]

Ryujin III

on a 9800X3D

but i have it on eco mode

pump's at 65% atm

[pure karma]

isent 50% the best

[night girder]

Euh, is there even a golden rule for that?

it seems to be more of a depends-on-context type of question.

There does seem to be a consencus that you should set it at fixed rate for durability of pump. Which makes sense.

[twin dew]

Impossible to know as user.
As it would depend on the exact pump implementation.
And even manufacturer might not be able to know without excessively large test program.

[pure karma]

depends on rpm range and blade to be fair but like in the middle of the range is best usually for flow

[twin dew]

Below some speed there start to be problems.
Above some speed there start to be problems.
And inside that range, there can be specific points where there are resonance issues etc. causing problems.
And on top of that, the exact flow impedance etc. also come into play.

And the limits "set" don't have to be anywhere near those actual mechanical low and high speed "limits" the design has.

And with almost no actual design of any mechanical system, does the point of least stress and wear be at the half-way point between the low and high speed unacceptable wear limits.

And with lot of consumer fans, pumps etc. it is somewhat likely that the max speed is the most efficient and longest lasting speed, as the top end is cut off as "useless", as it doesn't give any benefits and just causes more noise.

[gilded schooner]

heyy all, im doing a programing project, trying to program a factory sim system that its tailored to mid/large/huge ( system that scales) basicly Satisfactory clone to learn how its made becouse i find 0 information or guides on how its done.

And now im expanding the recipe and item tree to add some extra goals from just smelting ores and making plates. If you have any ideas throw them my way

[dire igloo]

I don't think that's a good fit here tbh

[gilded schooner]

just out of curiosity why? i dont intend to sell it, just a personal learning project.

[dire igloo]

Because you're asking questions that are more about factory automation games and less about software development.

This is the off topic nerd cove, we've got barely any contact with the Satisfactory segments of this server

[gilded schooner]

so #off-topic-general then? (it this is the case il move it there) Just asking for ideas on items to add

[bronze jasper]

fun fact. AMD's CEO is the Nvidia CEO's cousin

[dire igloo]

tbh, I'd ask in the game-related channels instead of offtopic

But I can see why you wouldn't want to

But in the end you're looking for people who are in some form involved with satisfactory so you can siphon some inspiration - offtopic channels are a tough match for thst

[gilded schooner]

👍

[long radish]

https://youtu.be/eUCm4wKarpQ

[sterile plinth]

bro whats up with fps in cs2

There is no way im getting 80fps on 768p with all settings set to low

and FSR downscale set to the max performance setting

all this on a radeon 6700xt

[safe trench]

honestly this is free marketing for the game

[night girder]

🧠

[safe trench]

less effort and more people buying just to say " 'oh but im sure i can run this game!" - r/iam14andthis is deep user"

[languid gulch]

fake frames to cover up fake development because the deadlines and money is real

[pure karma]

subnautica 2 👆

[sterile plinth]

I have a PC game which is better played using a controller, and I would like to play it on my tv

it's not feasible to do it wired, what are my (cheapest) options for wireless HDMI / wireless display mirroring?

[pure karma]

does your display not support wireless built in?