off-topic-tech

[cobalt ivy]

I'm a sucker for Browns

Clickity clackity, cheeks get clappity

Vaguely

I've gone back and forth on watching LTT content.

I remember the days of watching WAN show while spelunking in Minecraft. Now WAN is 1/2 LTT related topics, mostly about store products. I will tune in every couple months to hear Luke's perspective on things.

Dan

He's cringe as hell, I'm sorry

He's super smart and talented, for sure. I just can't stand his voice and jokes.

I'm in the minority.

I heard Nick L left :[

Our cars are too big here

Speaking of cars

A buddy showed me his ev today

Says he gets to 80% charge in 15 minutes. 200 miles.

USA :[

I'm just going to hold my tongue lol

We can be friends all we want, but our representatives show a different side.

I saw a clip. Never watched the show.

I was not allowed to watch TV shows or listen to secular music.

Homeschooled by Christian Nationalist Evangelicals that believe in speaking in tongues, healing the sick, and all that bs.

So I've missed out on a large chunk of pop culture and find it hard to relate to people. :/

We had cats, dogs, birds, etc lol

I'm agnostic now. Love me some science

https://tenor.com/view/you-just-got-scienced-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-scienced-this-is-science-gif-21991959

she globular bro

allergies

[charred relic]

I refuse to die until the last of my enemies has fallen to my hand

And some yet remain...

I'm a Taurus... not that I believe in that nonsense. But it do sometimes be seemin like it's accurate lol

[cobalt ivy]

I got 82 shares of AMD boi

[charred relic]

Ah that also came with a grind as well

It wasn't always just roses and rainbows heh

[cobalt ivy]

was -$8000 earlier this year 🙂

[charred relic]

I used to work harder than Ron Jeremys balls

Unfortunately money does not grow on trees...

Well... it kinda sorta can actually...in a strange kinda way.

[pure karma]

well yea cause its stocks

[cobalt ivy]

Y'all can't talk about communism now, is that right?

You got SIMON WHISTLER

of Business Blaze fame

[charred relic]

you...you...you...red!

[cobalt ivy]

This explains everything jk jk

[charred relic]

oof

I've only lived one place outside of the USA

Only traveled to one place outside the USA

The lovely Panama City Panama!

It was a great city overall

Very safe

Not sure about now but back then they would sometimes employ what some refer to as "swift justice"

if they saw you like... assault somebody

you might show up at the jail with a black eye lol

[pure karma]

same... mexico

[charred relic]

I will say it was effective

I felt safer here than in many downtown places in this country lol

err there...

[pure karma]

iv gone to mexico twice

[charred relic]

The cops were otherwise very nice 🙂

[pure karma]

actually no 3

3 times

[charred relic]

And they had the greatest busses... the paintings on them

stuff like that, but they were all different...

was very festive lol

The air force bases we used to go to are gone now...

They had the huge olympic size pool with the high dives lol

there's 12 year old me sneaking up to the very top one knowing good and well I was only allowed on the next to the top one haha

Sometimes I wonder how I loved out of being one lol

We used to ride our bikes up and off the most questionalable ramps known to mankind

no pads... no helmet...

I also got to experience the three wheeler revolution, there's a damn good reason those got banned in short order haha

more deadlier!

level up the carnage!

lol

for the most part i might as well be...

although do have the option... and have used it

It's kinda scary being in a smaller boat heading out from the bay and losing sight of land

really hits home about how important that nav gear is lol, otherwise you could soooo easily get lost

our navy is ridiculously large

well all of it is ridiculously large

we have an insane number of aircraft too

Just imagine if all that energy went to something productive

all the brain power, man hours, manufacturing, money, science

[cobalt ivy]

wasted on death machines

[charred relic]

more or less

[cobalt ivy]

as mechanically marvelous as they are, I hate that we have them.

[charred relic]

heh the bots are going to make it nuts too

can just mass drop those guys in anywhere...

Then it becomes mechahitler...again and kills us

[safe trench]

if it wasnt for nuclear weapons we wouldnt have nuclear reactors

[cobalt ivy]

How can you be sure?

[safe trench]

its the same thing as cutting nasas budget

"someone else will invent memory foam, just later!"

[cobalt ivy]

Yeah that's not a 1:1 comparison

[night girder]

Intel and NEX seems to split.

[soft bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCQCP-5g5bo
birds!

[glossy glacier]

The next step in IPoAC

[soft bloom]

the crazy bit is that one might feed such recordings that somehow encode useful data, and then nobody will have a clue that this is useful
because birds naturally make lots of sounds and it's not like humans are good at recognising patterns in them
stenography at it's finest

[visual tree]

People these days have gone crazy with AI-generated pictures

Someone is selling an apartment with very old furniture that's falling apart but they said the apartment has a huge potential and they used AI to generate what a renovated luxury apartment would look like 🤣

Like, you could literally turn any house or apartment in the world into great potential by using AI

"Imaginary" potential that is

[mental oriole]

More slop

[night girder]

I bought a pencil eraser powered by AI, and I must say, it's 69% more effective.

[vast tundra]

Does anyone know anyone who does rust plugin development

[mental oriole]

Can it erase the slop?

[mental oriole]

I don't program in rust.

[vast tundra]

No like for the game

[visual tree]

One of the loft images showed mold on the ceiling. I don't think using AI to make an alternative luxury version of that loft is going to help you sell your property lol

[dire igloo]

"if you buy this apartment, you can invest double the cost of a good apartment to turn it into a luxury apartment"

[visual tree]

Yeah, the apartment is being sold for €520.000 and renovating it would probably require additional €200.000

For that money, you could buy 2 decent apartments and rent one of them

[night girder]

Cheese is also mold.

People pay a lot of money for cheese.

So with that logic... an appartment with mold should be worth more? 🤔

[visual tree]

Btw, as I suspected, real estate agent warned us that new buildings might be energy-efficient but the companies are using cheap materials which is a well-known fact here

So, you pay a lot for so-called new building built on modern construction standards but the built quality is much worse than the old buildings, how ironic....

[dire igloo]

which is extra funny if those modern standards actually mandate certain build quality which they don't provide

(looking at Cy Porter's content)

[night girder]

That's how it works 🤷‍♂️

[visual tree]

The thing with new buildings is that the companies will use cheap materials, hire unskilled labor and construction supervisors in this country don't really care about doing their job

There is even a new building in my city where real estate agent told me they didn't even install conduits in the wall to pull electrical cables through

They literally put wires inside the wall and covered them with cement which was considered insane even 30 years ago

Don't want to know the plumbing quality and everything else but the new apartment owners will probably find the ugly truth soon

[mental oriole]

Make a big cheez, carve an apartment into it.

[dire igloo]

not just there. seeing the bullshit that US home inspectors find, it's an issue almost everywhere

(insert anti-capitalism rant about it being a fundamental flaw in the economic system here)

[visual tree]

Yeah. At this point I'd rather buy an apartment in older building with solid construction quality and invest into renovations

Buying an apartment in new building is like buying a cat in a sack unless you know the company constructing the building has a very good reputation for quality

[dire igloo]

tho some old buildings have been neglected to the point they're considered fubar

I've lived in one: renovations would've been too costly so the overall quality was just shit

[visual tree]

Here, those are usually old buildings in city center where majority of apartment owners are retired people who don't have money for anything

And those buildings were badly damaged during big earthquake in 2020

[night girder]

Ask for the construction plans

I think you might even get those at the city hall.

[visual tree]

We have a government portal where you can track locations for which someone asked a building permit

So you can know in advance where someone is going to build an apartment building

[night girder]

We have construction plans. Public accessible.

We also have building permits, but those don't contain construciton materials and measurements.

[visual tree]

We are very lucky because literally across our house, there is going to be a huge community with 12 new apartment buildings and a lot of real estate agents have mentioned the build quality is superb compared to other companies

*well for the buildings that have already been built by now

Some even have sauna inside

The only problem is that the demand is huge and you really need to be quick before someone else buys the apartment

[night girder]

Nice, a sauna. We don't build those over here. In the summer we get free sauna 😄

[visual tree]

Here is a screenshot of the portal btw (nowhere near my actual location so I don't reveal my actual location ):

[night girder]

That's cool.

[visual tree]

At least you can know with this portal if the house/apartment has Use permit which means it's 100% legal

[night girder]

What the hell ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtIJUwkOAwM&t=15s

Why did I pay so much for my PC.

[visual tree]

Looks easier to build than the 8-bit computer in minecraft lol

[night girder]

it's amazing ...

[visual tree]

Wish I could build something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q

[night girder]

Knex must be so happy someone build a PC with it 😄

[mental oriole]

People have too much free time 😁

[night girder]

C'mon it's impressive

[mental oriole]

Not denying that 🙂

[night girder]

like... my head starts dizzling if I have to think to debug that.

You enter 1 + 1 and it gives you 3. You gotta look where it goes wrong 🤣

[night girder]

btw, how is your engine going?

[mental oriole]

I've been slacking off hard time 😄

[night girder]

Someone doesn't have enough free time? 🤣

[mental oriole]

Vacation and I'm lazy... maybe next week.

Aka tomorrow :))

It's the I gotta get it compiling on linux that's making me kind of not do it... It's not hard... just tedious 🙂

[night girder]

whatever you do.

don't use NPM

[mental oriole]

I use submodules

And before people rant on submodules. At least I know what I'm fetching.

And I have like 10 dependencies (including sub dependencies at most)

Also I was thinking of making a threading pool system similar to how DSP did theirs (beta branch).

[twin dew]

The worst issue with NPM, and JS equivalents, is that when something is deployed, it is still configured to pull directly from the repo, often just "whatever is newest right now", even in production.
Instead of pulling one version into development system, and packaging that version with the actual deployment.
And then vetting and version updates before pushing them to production.

I just hate when websites pull directly from various public JS repositories...

When I visit a website, I don't want my browser pulling scripts from 1-3 other domains in addition to that site...

Also includes when NPM stuff pulls other NPM stuff with it, without fixed versions.

[night girder]

NPM doesn't pull latest. That's just lazy developers.

package-lock.json if not mistaken.

[twin dew]

You can configure either.

And if you don't bother specifying version, it gets latest.

[night girder]

Well, I lock my versions down for a reason.

[twin dew]

Or you can configure version range, lower than something, higher than something.

[twin dew]

Yes, that is the right way, and check any update diffs.
But lot of places and NPM packages don't do that.

[night girder]

I am just happy I didn't get infected since I was using eslint.

[twin dew]

Just pull in willy-nilly.

[night girder]

Honestly, I really didn't expect eslint to get hit.

Because it's a huge tool in the industry.

[twin dew]

Which is why NPM is such huge target for malware deployment.

[night girder]

Most people in here don't realize the impact actually lol 😄

[night girder]

I am not a huge fan of NPM. Has it's advantages for sure. But also, the drawbacks ofcourse.

I like Maven a bit more. (Java package managing)

[twin dew]

Most of the problems are from misuse, but it makes that misuse the default by allowing that "just get latest".

[night girder]

Yeah. Don't get me wrong. I understand why developers do it. Because laziness (or lack of time).

But it's asking for troubles. Not only for malware. Also just for your project.

[twin dew]

Worst were those cases that the "LeftPad" fiasco showed, where enterprises were just deploying software to new servers by pulling direct from NPM with newest versions...

[night girder]

If you keep control over package management, and your project stops compiling, you just roll back the latest package you upgraded.
If 20 packages update, good luck finding it out.

[night girder]

I haven't read about that one I think.

Haha, just read into the story. 🤣

[twin dew]

Small thingie that added spaces to left to get fixed size string with the actual text on right.
Used by lot of software, and the dev got fed up providing "free software", and stopped development and deployed final neutered version.

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/houseofcards-pyramid-gif-23266618

[twin dew]

That just errored.

[night girder]

If you pull any of the cards at lowest level, the whole thing collapse yeah.

[twin dew]

That lot of places then pulled automatically, and broke.

[night girder]

I am so confused, how?

Most developers learn not to do this.

So either they got overruled by management. Or devops or something.

[twin dew]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Npm_left-pad_incident

[night girder]

No, I get the left-pad.

Why did companies allow auto pull. That is a big no-go.

[twin dew]

Ah, misremembered, he did full package delete from NPM.

[night girder]

Yeah.

So if you delete a package that is used by every other important package.

Or even if your package is used by a package that is used by a lot of other software.

You know, the card house collapses.

But there is so much wrong with this story imo.

1. Don't auto pull packages.
2. Don't auto compile your project and push it into production.
3. Put automation into your pipeline in front of production. Pipeline fails = BLOCK MERGE TO PRODUCTION!!!

Because if they had a pipeline with QA, it would have failed (left-pad missing), and it wouldn't even make it into production and everything keeps working.
Locally it's easy fixed, you just find another library that does left padding 😛

[twin dew]

Or just continue using the last version if it is good enough.

[night girder]

🤣

That was their code.

[twin dew]

Ok, that is bad...
Why doesn't it just calculate the size needed and pad at once...
Adding stuff to the front of string one character at a time is horrible even with mutable strings...

[night girder]

I let you think a bit. You will find the answer to your own question.

[mental oriole]

And it's not even optimized :)))

[twin dew]

Yeah, but point is, why would anyone use that code in production to the amounts it was used...

[night girder]

Even if you say "I want x of this character" ... then another library will loop.

afaik, there is always loop involved.

[twin dew]

Yeah, but looping with mutable string, adding to the end is not bad.
And then combine the looped stuff and the original string once.

But ok, if mutable strings aren't a thing, then it doesn't matter.

[night girder]

Could be an improvement.

[mental oriole]

It should create the padded string first and then combine them.

[night girder]

I follow you both.

[mental oriole]

mutating the same object is slowaf :)))

Not that it "usually" matters though.

stormed to death.

[twin dew]

Meant that generating that padding string is done with mutable string adding to the end, which AFAIK is usually pretty fast compared to making new ones constantly.

Adding to front of mutable string would probably be horrible.

Ok, depending on implementation.

[night girder]

What do you mean front?

It's left padding. xxx + word.

right padding is word + xxx.

[twin dew]

new+old (adding to front)
vs. old+new (adding to end).
Where you could do that padding by doing new string, starting with one of the char, then adding to the end multiple times.
Then doing one combination operation for padding + string.
Instead of doing constant pad 1 + string, over and over.

But again, depends on the actual string implementation(s) available.

With no mutable strings, it doesn't matter where you add, you create new string anyways, and the speed is same in all cases.

With mutable strings, depending on implementation adding to end might be much faster than anything else.
Or adding to start might be as fast.

[night girder]

Ah, I understand you Baldur.

Ok some context.

This is the developer 😄

Project had 10 stars on github.

No clue how this all happened 🤣

[mental oriole]

Could also use builtin str.padStart

[night girder]

But maybe this was preventable haha

If you use a 10 star project ... well 🤷‍♂️

[night girder]

Or code it yourself at this point. 10 lines.

Just make a helper class somewhere, util.padLeft();

But then you have clean code principles that say; don't reinvent the wheel.

[mental oriole]

mmm

[night girder]

but where is the line as a programmer?

[mental oriole]

No.

[night girder]

1. Everyline of code you write is your responsibility. You have to test it. Maintain it etc.
2. Everyline of code you use is a dependency and you hold no control. Or responsibility.

In the end, you are still responsible if people use your project. So even with point 2. It doesn't matter. People will hold you accountable for using bad external libraries.

[dire igloo]

dependencies basically mean:
if they fuck up, it's their fault for fucking up and your fault for not protecting against that fuckup

[night girder]

That's why I still hold eslint etc a bit responsible. But we already had that discussion.

[dire igloo]

can't protect against every fuckup tho (e.g. Crowdstrike)

[night girder]

Isn't microsoft hacked a week ago? Sharepoint servers I believe.

vulnerability.

[mental oriole]

Nah like mid week no?

Also citrix got CVE:d but nobody talked about that.

[night girder]

Maybe? I just know it got fixed.

[mental oriole]

Quite annoying ngl.

[dire igloo]

I always love finding a CVE at work cuz usually it's either "oh, we already patched that anyway" or "lol, time to make the employees notice how much they rely on working IT"

[night girder]

That's what I like about IntelliJ. It has a built in tool that gives warnings for CVE about the libraries I use.

A few times, I updated dependencies, got warning about CVE, read what the CVE was, then decided to either ignore it or roll back.

A few times I ignored it because it was such an obscure CVE.

Hihi

[mental oriole]

whyyy

[night girder]

Found that once when I was digging into library.

[mental oriole]

And it's a comment ofc.

[night girder]

CHARmatcher ...

charmander ... 👀

[mental oriole]

stringmander

[night girder]

was trying to find CVE warnings in intelliJ, I think I have screenshot somewhere.

[mental oriole]

all the CVE:s

librewolf

[night girder]

Yeah, I am thinking about it.

@mental oriole Shots fired. (librewolf website).

Ooh. "Codeberg e.V., based in Berlin, Germany."

So it's either the Germans, or Americans 🤣

[mental oriole]

yup

Rather the germans idk.

[night girder]

Jokes asides, I can only approve this. More competition. More EU software.

Now we just need more EU hardware to be independent.

[mental oriole]

Pretty much. Too bad we're late to that party.

[twin dew]

Not late to the party, just gave up long time ago.

[night girder]

Well, it happened because they said; "If you don't listen we take away your toys."
We need our toys, so we listen. But if we can be independent, nobody can hold that over us again.

So it's a good job EU is slowly waking up. Beter late than never.

And now that Intel is in the shitter, interesting times.

[twin dew]

So the manufacturing of manufacturing machines is still in EU, but almost anything using those machines is now elsewhere.
And any fab companies stopped development and then later closed long time ago.

[dire igloo]

even worse if you know Germans

[night girder]

The Netherlands right?

[twin dew]

Lot of places for large scale CNC, other machining machines etc.

The high end stuff still mostly comes from EU.

[night girder]

How did we get into this position?

[twin dew]

ASML in turn is the only one basically currently for high-end semiconductor fab equipment.

[night girder]

So we provide, the ingredients, so other can manufacturer the end product that we pay for?
And is used for geopolitical reasons? "If you don't listen, no chips for you!"

[dire igloo]

I work in Germany's federal administration

[night girder]

How did we end up in this position

[twin dew]

Companies outsourced all the manufacturing to China etc. to get the cheaper lineworkers.
And now the knowledge isn't there anymore to even actually set up factories for serial production on large scale in usable timeframe.

[night girder]

Can the US, switch to fully inhouse? Or, is that not possible because of how it's all spread out around the world atm?

[twin dew]

Not at this time.
As setting up production line for something would take years, when China can do it in 30-90 days for same project.
As they have the knowhow for all the parts, centralized in the specific cities, with already existing partnerships for every step.

And that is ignoring any setup cost differences, and actual production cost differences.

[night girder]

This might sound weird of me, but I am a bit relieved.

[twin dew]

Basically no-one will try to set up production in US because of Trump, because doing that would take about as long as Trumps term, and cost fuckton.
And unless the tariffs etc. are constant for 10+ years, there is no point.

And with Trump, they cannot be trusted to last a month.

[night girder]

So what were they playing at then?

[twin dew]

Trump. No logic needed.

[night girder]

US; "China no more chips for you."
China; "But ... we help them be made?"

[twin dew]

Trump = Demented man-child that only cares about his personal ego and position, and has no idea about economics.

[dire igloo]

US: "no more chips for you"
China: "fine, inhouse production it is"

[night girder]

EU: 😭

[twin dew]

And lives in world where no-one can win without someone else losing.

Zero-sum game is only thing he "understands", even for things where that isn't the case.

[night girder]

quid pro quo, it's so old that tactic. And works.

[twin dew]

And he basically has elementary school level of understanding of most of things.

[night girder]

I heard every opinion by now too.

I really don't care anymore. Not my continent. Not my problem.

[twin dew]

Problem is that with Trump, you just have to butter him up to get huge concessions in reality.

[night girder]

And we do. That's exactly who Mark Rutten is.

And it worked. Like a charm.

[dire igloo]

what happened to "Not my continent. Not my problem."?

[night girder]

Mark Rutten is EU boss?

So him buttering up to US president for EU interests, is my continent.

[night girder]

And what I meant with that. That I am not going to care/judge the US (and it's citizens) for voting in a democracy and having a president that doesn't align with our interest.

[night girder]

And is that so bad? Like what did you think Churchill did to Roosevelt?

[twin dew]

That he doesn't even walk the walk, just talks the talk.
And the various dictators have been taking advantage of that both during previous Trump admin, and now.

Donald Trump is a stupid man's idea of a smart person, a poor man's idea of a rich man, and a weak man's idea of a strong man.

[night girder]

Mhm. Yeah. Not that they took advantage of the previous one 😉

There is so much context.

I hope we can atleast agree to that 😦

[twin dew]

Yes, but with Trump it is just so much easier.
As he only cares about his own wallet and ego.
The country or the presidency is not important to him at all directly, only from the ways they allow him to get personal gains.

[night girder]

I understand you.

[twin dew]

With Obama and Biden, they had to use specific type of naivety instead.

As they and their advisors just didn't understand dictatorships.

[night girder]

Sorry, Biden didn't have anything.

I really respect the man, but I find it sad what they did to him.

He should be sitting by a lake, fishing. Or whatever he enjoys doing at his age.

[twin dew]

His international diplomacy was horrible when interacting with Russia and China.
Because of that specific blind spot, which Obama already shared.
Western politicians in general have very big issue in understanding that Russia, China, etc. don't work on the same rules as their homes.

[night girder]

Why this sudden passion about the US president Baldur? You watched south park this week? 😄

[twin dew]

And Biden fucked up majorly because of that.

[night girder]

Never seen you this vocal before about it. (not that I mind).

[twin dew]

And most EU politicians have fucked up almost as bad, and continue doing so.

[twin dew]

Need to limit, I have already warning.
Wouldn't have started if the conversation didn't get here otherwise.

[night girder]

I've heard to plenty of podcast with western diplomats and what I heard from them, they know exactly what they are doing.
Especially when it comes to dictators. So I don't agree with; "Western politicians in general have very big issue in understanding that Russia, China, etc. don't work on the same rules as their homes."

It's we the people not understanding what our politicians/diplomats are doing. But they bloody know what they are doing. In this specific context of handling dictators.

[twin dew]

Some do, lot of don't.
And for long time the people in charge absolutely didn't know.
Which is why the appeasement of Russia has been going on since early 2000s when it should have seen it was stupid to continue.
And then reset after reset after reset after each time Putin invaded someone.

Yes, trying to bring Russia into the fold after collapse of USSR was good idea, but it was continue once it was shown to be not what Russia wanted to happen.

And Putin just started using it for his own ends instead.

[night girder]

As we speak, so many diplomats are hard at work with all countries. It goes way above our heads.

We only see 2-3 pieces of the whole chess board if that makes sense? But not all the pieces?

Because it would be stupid to tell everyone what the actually plan is 😉

[twin dew]

Yes, NOW the situation is changing/changed.
But point was, that between 2000 and 2023 the appeasement was out of control.

[night girder]

Mhm. It's complicated?

[twin dew]

And in 2024 it was still in flux.

[night girder]

I mean, not that black n white? (We are good, they are bad)

[night girder]

What appeasements? We just kept building bases closer and closer 🤷‍♂️

[twin dew]

Every time Russia has invaded some country that used to be part of USSR.
EU gives some strong words "Don't do that", and then resets back to same as before the invasion in less than a year.

And then Russia goes for the next.

[night girder]

There was this one country a few decades ago that did the same 🤣

[night girder]

Maybe it's a bit of;

Listen to me. No you listen to me. Both don't listen. Both escalate.

and resources I guess (metals that are now important because of hardware)

[twin dew]

Normal for long time was:
Western world says something "bad" about Russia.
Russia (Putin) says they will escalate.
Western world backs down.
No matter what.

And then resets everything to pre-crisis state on western side in year or so.

And Putin has used that again and again and again.
Even during Ukraines war since 2022.
Now it is FINALLY starting to change that the politicians understand that Putin has basically been bluffing each and every time.

The missing piece has been that against dictators, appeasement leads to escalation, not the opposite.

Each round leads to the next demand to be bigger and bigger.

Same as with Hitler pre WW2.

[night girder]

"Western world backs down." - I don't fully agree.

But maybe we should take it to DM's 🙈

[twin dew]

That has been repeated with Russia for 20 years now, just in much smaller steps, until the full-scale invasion of Ukraine once there had been enough of the steps, and then still continued during the war with all the various Russian "red lines" for specific weapons.
Each which then led to fuck-all response from Russia once finally crossed.

But I need to head to bed, 23:00.

[dire igloo]

and then they get a Nobel peace prize

[dire igloo]

Yeah, if your network latency graph has its axis scaled to thousands of milliseconds, you know your network is fucked

[willow pike]

are you on the moon

[soft bloom]

YT why do you even care?

[willow pike]

they want to track you

[mental oriole]

uuuuuugh I sometimes hate c++ configurations....

[night girder]

what happened?

[mental oriole]

physics static lib links my engine core static lib (that has some engine settings and management functions)
if create a dummy instance in main.cpp of settings
it removes the link error in physics.cpp...

[pure karma]

Completely unrelated but apparently i made it into the new css short? Lol

[safe trench]

was going to ping you about that LO

[pure karma]

Great one that…

[verbal raft]

https://www.techpowerup.com/339314/amd-radeon-rx-9060-xt-leads-techpowerup-frontpage-poll-for-its-price-performance

[safe trench]

lol

theres another variation of the mrbeast scam that some kids are falling to

only a matter of time before it heads to us

imagine how much money the creator of this scam stole from children

[dire igloo]

I've seen it a few times in the last couple weeks now.
It's crazy how adaptive they get

[soft bloom]

glad AI has nothing to do with it

[pure karma]

ehh its nothing new

[manic cipher]

Some people have never been taught the usefulness of due diligence.

I once fell for a book scam on Amazon of all places.
I paid a large sum and only got one book.
Luckily for me, I was able to dispute it with the bank and got refunded the money, but Amazon still shows the return as "in progress".

Apparently Amazon lets scammers use their marketplace. Most of the reviews for that were terrible, and then there are the 5 star reviews which are basically lies when the majority says that this is a bad deal.

[wanton orchid]

sounds like template instance definition problem

[mental oriole]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I gave up because there were a billion other errors

That's what you get for not using a build system and then try move to one.

So starting from "scratch" again.

And the project needed some hefty re-organization either way so.

[wanton orchid]

Basically each template instance must get defined
but it only get instanced on use
so definition does not exist unless explicit instanciation is used

you want to define templates in headers, static definition

[pure karma]

i think this HDMI cable might be trashed cause im getting screen tearing even with vsync on and that makes no sense

[mental oriole]

Those were not templates btw.

[maiden coyote]

Sounds good, yes?

[languid gulch]

i really do miss 80s/90s chunky tech sounds

the sound of a 3.5" floppy disk getting mounted in place

i know they're still around on more expensive stuff, but the chunky clips that hold batteries in place

[soft bloom]

do you miss chunky VGA that gets screwed?

[soft bloom]

I would argue that overall sound design got much ... softer,on average/ more processing and less character.
in music and whatever. too many stuff sort of averaged out.

no platform-driven playlist ever got me interested.
but i somehow got to listen to authors who are unlike anything I could find within their alleged genre

[charred relic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCCXRerqaJI

[dire igloo]

That's straight up wrong.
The everyman's type of mass media becomes more and more slop, but that's pop music.
Stuff marketed to the average consumer, no sharp edges, just "easily digestible".

You are experiencing that the evolution of pop music diverges from your taste in music.
So just listen to other stuff. Find artists you like, even if they aren't actively being pushed.
Don't rely on a platform's promotions - those will always have some form of logic to push songs which the platform makes more money with.

[night girder]

Yeah, I can share that experience. Had it happen to me too, now I always try to think twice before setting something up.
Better do it right from the start, else you might get into error hell.

[dire igloo]

You're not criticizing overall audio design.
You're criticizing a platform that's been changing into a profit-tailored advertising machine.

If you push generic music without edges and corners, the general public won't run into issues with it.
It's a unified pulp designed to displease nobody at the cost of being unappealing

It's the music equivalent of grey, beige and off-white

[charred relic]

It's gotten worse, they don't even have to find somebody with talent now. Just stick them behind autotune. A lot of those clowns don't even write their own music and/or lyrics.

I find it a bit insulting really that they hink they can just shovel whatever steaming pill of shit they come up with out there and I'm supposed to like it just because reasons.

[dire igloo]

Which also contributes to AI generated music growing more popular - because people are used to the slop

It's called music industry for a reason

[soft bloom]

you talk funny

[dire igloo]

I'd say that 90% of things people take issue with in their lives can be attributed to late stage capitalism

[charred relic]

Also the number of people that don't realize that Felmans act is shtick is... wow we're cooked as a species I think.

Normally I's ay the shtick was TOO outlandish but apparently these days nope

[soft bloom]

thing you that dig deeper into what I was meaning behind my short conclusion, and yet top that with me somehow being wrong.
that's funny. you drive conversation by assumptions, without any interest to understand other's point - simply putting your own assumptions inplace. without judging if what you say alligns or not - jumping to conclusions that others are wrong.

[charred relic]

oh wow I forgot this was a thing... but here it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx_X5W0R7Uo

my neighbors band... 15 years ago, man i feel old lol

i was teching for the guitar player on the right back then

[mental oriole]

nvidia be fun.

Thread 1 "launcher" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x00007fffe7df4430 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libnvidia-glcore.so.575.64.05

[night girder]

very useful error

[mental oriole]

not really

[night girder]

not really at all.

Shit, EU got fucked by US 🙁

The main topic of the deal is import duties. The US is introducing a 15 percent tariff on most European products, including smartphones, computers, laptops, flat screens, routers, SSDs and semiconductors. Conversely, no import duties are charged.

[mental oriole]

sigh

[night girder]

And this is the deal that is signed as we speak.

[twin dew]

And EU doesn't realluy export any of the listed stuff to US?

[night girder]

"Conversely, no import duties are charged." = EU is not charging. US is = US wins = EU loses.

[twin dew]

Yeah, but point was that very bad examples.
But yeah, EU team caved in completely when Trump side started to threaten with 30% tariffs.

[night girder]

In addition to the fact that the EU will not charge counter-tariffs, the European Union is also considering scrapping its existing 10 percent tariffs on American cars

We're fucked!

I can't even see what we actually won out of this deal, I can only see; bend over, bend over and bend over.

[twin dew]

Also signed to buying 250M worth of US energy (products like oil etc.) for next 3 years.

When total EU level imports are less than 400M per year.

At this time.

[night girder]

How long is this deal going to last before I can start buying hardware again? 🤣

Yeah, and you called him dumb.

While people comment and I agree;

It smells enormously of a totally failed and weak negotiating position by Von der Leyen if you look at the deal. Trump has been by far the better negotiator and has been able to maintain his "America first" mantra here.

[mental oriole]

Trying to load shader that didnt exist 😄
Good error handling 🤣

[night girder]

🤦‍♀️

Gladd you found it.

[dire igloo]

Your words:

I would argue that overall sound design got much ... softer,on average/ more processing and less character.
in music and whatever. too many stuff sort of averaged out.

And that generalization is simply not true.
Yes, mainstream audio media has become more and more slop.

But not ALL audio. And that's why I told you you are wrong.
Not because I made assumptions, but because you generalized.

[dire igloo]

Europa nicht der Leyen überlassen

[thin trout]

"Conversely, no import duties are charged." = EU is not charging. US is = US wins = EU loses. (edited)

It is quite the opposite. US adding taxes to US citizens = US lose (this has happened).

It doesn't make sense to join in and jump off a cliff because the USA did it first. It was a bad move for them to tax their own citizens as they did and it would equally be a bad move for us to tax our own citizens in this manner.

Why shoot yourself 10 times so that one of the bullets goes through you and also hits the USA? It's senseless - yet that's what trump did, because he does not have even a beginner's grasp of economic policy. It's what EU refuses to do.

From Europe perspective, US peeps don't buy as much of our stuff (which hurts a little) because they tax themselves on those products, but if deleting the US government tax on US citizens is off the table then there's nothing that can be done about it.

Fortunately, while US taxes hit US citizens on imports from basically every country of note around the world, only EU exports to US are affected (they're more expensive in the US due to USA tax, so fewer people buy them).

On the other hand since everybody (e.g. China, Taiwan, Mexico/Canada, other European countries) are selling fewer items in less volume to the US, that leaves a relatively cheap oversupply available for Europe to buy. For example, graphics cards were selling below MSRP in europe at the same time they were 50% over MSRP in USA because supply was reallocated under the expectation of lower US sales due to far higher prices. Taiwan/China to Europe had no such tax, and we actually benefitted strongly in that market because the USA priced themselves out of it so we got the shipments instead.

Overall there are wins and losses and it doesn't really affect us very much. For the most part we can either eat a slight loss of volume to the US and sell the extra leftovers to somebody else, with minimal to no reduction in profit margins.

Meanwhile US Americans are getting screwed because a large fraction of the stuff that they want or need to buy got a huge added tax on it and they have no alternatives without that tax. They can't go and buy motherboards or RTX5090's which aren't made in Taiwan, because they all are and there is no competitor. They can't buy Coffee that isn't tarrifed, because Coffee can't grow in most of the USA and is still uneconomical to produce and ship from the areas where it can. The list is huge. Europeans? Ours got cheaper.

Tariffs are a beneficial tool in only certain circumstances; when carefully curated values make it equally or more expensive to import certian items from other countries, therefore matching/raising their price above the cost of those items being produced locally. That can allow jobs and industry to be viable where otherwise they wouldn't be, which can be desirable in the long term for economies and for national security. If you just tarriff everything at values which are either way too high or way too low to accomplish that then it's basically no different than a regressive sales tax - and again, on your own people. People who export to the US feel only an indirect and much lesser effect.

90 percent of the pain goes to US Americans that aren't millionaires because they are personally facing an enormous tax rise and they have no choice but to pay it with money that they directly needed for housing, education, health and quality of life.

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

[soft bloom]

well, if we play in "ridicule each other"...

but i somehow got to listen to authors who are unlike anything I could find within their alleged genre
did you miss this?
that didn't raise any inconsistancies in how you understood what I wrote?

[pure karma]

as a canadian i get the price increase of the us with the the import fees of everywhere else on top, and a failing economy... its great

[night girder]

For some reason, YT start recommending me videos of a very pissed of Canadian.

[thin trout]

That's the youtube special.

[night girder]

pissed off canadians?

[thin trout]

everybody must get served 20 videos per day of a very angry neo nazi dude

[night girder]

What? I am so lost. Neo Nazi dude? I am talking the Canadians!

[thin trout]

yeah

[thin trout]

Someone upset about the tarriffs? 😄 Maybe not then (but they do it a lot)

[pure karma]

surprisingly not

my angry guy is the German version of the im a gummy bear song

which randomly shows up every once in a while

[night girder]

No, canadians aren't angry about Tarrifs only.

But about a comment from someone who said; "Eh, maybe we can turn it into a US state".

And that's a no-go.

[thin trout]

Yeah, that'll do it.

This too

[night girder]

How and why the hell would you upset them 🙁

It's this guy.

Guard The Leaf, he is angry. Posting videos daily now.

[pure karma]

im french i doubt they would give a shit about me if were being honest

[night girder]

France cares Which reminds me of my duolingo.

[dire igloo]

That did arise some inconsistencies but I deemed it irrelevant to the initial complaint

Also: I'm not ridiculing you.
I'm replying to what you say and I either add to it or correct it.
Mostly the latter

[pure karma]

im not certain of that

[soft bloom]

and what about the meaning of

on average
?

[dire igloo]

As I said. Gross overgeneralization from a comparably narrow perspective

[soft bloom]

just in case YT didn't show this in subscriptions feed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LNzH495CQI
another banger essay from Acerola

[night girder]

Of course, iOS 18.6 will address bugs in 18.5, which could include the battery drain, overheating and Bluetooth issues plaguing some iPhone users.

What a weird sentence. Patch 2 ... will fix bugs from patch 1. Really? Is that how it works Forbes?

[mental oriole]

wtf

[safe trench]

or just dont use forbes

[night girder]

Was searching for specifics if 18.6 changed anything for bluetooth. Landed on Forbes that way. I don't really use it day to day.

[balmy tundra]

Hey guys

Am i cooked? AMD A10-9700 RADEON R7, 10 COMPUTE CORES 4C+6G

This is my cpu

[jagged snow]

Bristol Ridge?

Wild

[glossy glacier]

yes

[verbal raft]

Bulldozer Era AMD CPU and IGP ? Yikes

[balmy tundra]

I got uhh

Scammed a few years back

[languid gulch]

just switch to the new Threadripper, it's only $11k

[balmy tundra]

I got $5.87 what can i get

[languid gulch]

i've got a spare cpu you can have

idk if you'll like it tho

[tough owl]

isnt thr 64c one 5k?

[languid gulch]

96 core one is $11k

[tough owl]

thats over my cc limit :(

[languid gulch]

crap, google's getting past ublock on firefox

[charred relic]

It's not over my limit, but it's damn sure over my budget

I'd rather not be paying off my CPU for the next couple of years

[tough owl]

I'll buy one in 5 years when they're 66% off

[languid gulch]

🤣

yea but the mobo for it will still be $4000

[safe trench]

people spend 5k on their sofa

[limpid ravine]

you can get a car with that

[languid gulch]

lol yup

definitely a "how the rich live" vs everyone else

[dire igloo]

Welcome to the enterprise/B2B market

[charred relic]

The amount of money companies spent on IT is insane

As is some of the still totally great hardware that just gets tossed

Some folks to offload those for some cash though, probably largly why there are so many older used servers on ebay

[dire igloo]

It's insane how much money is spent on IT and simultaneously, how much IT is getting cheaped out on

[charred relic]

I've also seen some shady IT shit

like people think some of these little mechanic shops are taking folks for a ride loooool

[dire igloo]

For example: you get hundreds of thousands for new network hardware to migrate to IPv6, but you can't allocate those funds to finance an additional IT employee

[charred relic]

I've seen people who only needed X get convinced they also needed Y and Z too

That's the difference between the company having an actual IT guy and a company having an "IT guy" lol

And the "IT guy" is... Well I've been in a NOC and you'd be shocked how many calls come in that their connection is slow/broken/messed up. They were just out of b/w

like two choices pal upgrade or live with it heh

[dire igloo]

I'd rather have an IT "guy" than an "IT" guy

[charred relic]

They did a lot of companies though most totally competent.... like Delta had actual IT people

The diesel engines in that place were nuts. Multiple diesels all big enough for a pretty big BOAT

And I'm not the type to jump at sudden loud noises but that system kicking over to diesel backup would make me do it

Well according to a friend that has a Quest 3 he says I won't be sorry I upgrade heh

[tribal kraken]

Today I need to switch from mechanical design to IT guy

[verbal raft]

[thin trout]

it's probably software side, drivers, maybe some interaction between UE4 and drivers

given that nvidia doesn't have the issue, that rules out a UE4 defect which can't be worked around at the very least

if it affects multiple vendors then it's more likely that ue4 is doing something dumber and nvidia is the one using a workaround

[verbal raft]

The games tested in that article are both using Nvidias branch for UE4

Which has its own proprietary NVIDIA built RT path

[thin trout]

In that case they should port to the radeon one

[verbal raft]

Dunno if its sabotage from NVIDIA or it just doesn't interact well with RDNA 4/battlemage/newest drivers

[verbal raft]

There's no "Radeon path" just regular UE 4 DXR

[verbal raft]

avaraage performance is also a third of raster with RT on both AMD and NVIDIA

and the 5070 had some visual artifacting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgpdFF9ppis

[tribal kraken]

Install done. About 200Mbit link speed to workshop with 2.4GHz and 500Mbit to coffee break room with 5GHz. Meshed together. Now title promotion back to mechical designer from IT-manager

[night girder]

Bluetooth vibrators are being removed from our local shops because hackers can set the vibration 🤣

Attackers were able to take over the Lovense Connect app, which can be used to adjust the vibrations of the vibrators, in addition to Lovense's webcam tools Cam Extension, StreamMaster and Cam101.

[mental oriole]

surprised...

[night girder]

That's what you get for connecting every single thing to apps.

Here a bluetooth screwdriver

[soft bloom]

wait, wut. y?

[night girder]

As the developers would say; "why not?"

[soft bloom]

right, got to make quick buck while customer is agreeable...

[night girder]

There is even a tennisball with bluetooth

🤔 How silly can we go? Let's see if there are bluetooth toothpicks.

[dire igloo]

this looks more like a BT speaker with tennisball-design

[soft bloom]

well, if i wanted to collect ball's statistics, like airtime, acceleration etc, how else I would transfer data from it without physical connector?

make it wirelessly chargeable

Bluetooth is univresal wireless interace

that's at least better then needing wifi connection imo

[dire igloo]

you use an external system to track the balls, like Hawk-Eye - which is already well-established technology in tennis

adding tech into the ball will inevitably change its weight, weight distribution and flight behavior
some balls (like bowling) are fine with that due to their size and weight, others (like ping pong) absolutely aren't
I'd consider tennis balls to be closer to the ping pong ball end of that spectrum

also: that tech has to be impact resistant across hundreds and thousands of hits

[soft bloom]

yes, that would be A factor

[dire igloo]

the ball in the pic above would be utterly useless for use as a regular tennis ball

different surface finish, different material, unbalanced distribution of material, etc

I'm pretty sure it's not even perfectly rotationally symmetric in terms of weight distribution

[charred relic]

And with things like golf balls it's not just size and weight but those dimples aren't there for looks heh

[dire igloo]

if you showed me that thing and told me it had BT, I'd 100% think it's a speaker designed to look like a tennis ball

[charred relic]

Just removing half of those would drastically change the dynamics of any shot taken on it

[dire igloo]

which would only make surface changes impractical, not internal ones

bowling balls also need a smooth surface, you can still pack tech inside them

[soft bloom]

well if it was down to actually integrating stuff inside, probably would have made some sort of compact case that is filled with foam/etc to prevent shock damage, and then balanced to not disrupt center of mass and other characteristics

[charred relic]

Bowling ball would be about as east as it gets really

[soft bloom]

with integrated camera, for live feed

[charred relic]

since those are weighted in a certain way and you can just account for that

the ball likely wouldn't roll any differently at all in that case

[dire igloo]

good luck not changing the weight or angular momentum of this thing

[charred relic]

tennis ball very hard lol

And the lighter it is the harder it'll be

[dire igloo]

as I said, towards the ping pong ball end of that spectrum

those fuckers are nigh impossible to add anything to

[charred relic]

I'd say effectively... as far as science is concerned.

[dire igloo]

printing is about as far as it gets

[soft bloom]

well i remember Veritasium integrated soething into football ball(?)

[charred relic]

tennis ball and ping pong effectively same lol

[dire igloo]

soccer balls are towards the bowling ball end of the spectrum. iirc there was a goal line technology that added tech into the ball

[charred relic]

ping bong would just be... well goog luck on that

[soft bloom]

even for camera setup having couple test runs with integrated sensors would be a good thing to calibrate

[soft bloom]

no i mean American football ball

[charred relic]

I get they want direct measurements yada yada... however optics is a thing and there's more than one way to go about collecting most of that data

[dire igloo]

tennis would at least allow you to add some internal wiring and tiny chips - enough to make it an NFC token

[soft bloom]

but basically any sport with balls have to account for rotational properties

[dire igloo]

oh, those eggy thingamabobs.
yeah, not quite soccer, but gets there

[dire igloo]

the big advantage of ball-based tech is court indifference
without Hawk-Eye type tech installed, you have to rely on your personal equipment to provide data

I could take those high-tech tennis balls to my local tennis court, do some practice drills and analyze my data - without ever needing to check the court itself

[charred relic]

Eventually it'll all be like racing where they are excited over even the tinest extra margin heh

"shaved 0.0000001 seconds off my lap time"

WHOA that is incredible! lol

[dire igloo]

olympic shot put?

[charred relic]

But that's just where they are, mining for those last few grains of gold lol

Weight distribution plays a roll there so yeah

[dire igloo]

hey, that's still a whole millisecond over 10,000 laps

[charred relic]

mount anything on or in it and it can change it's rotational properties

small rotation out of hand, amplified by offset weight causing more rotation... and yeah with something that dense and heavy it can matter

[dire igloo]

fair I guess

[charred relic]

It doesn't take as much rotational force to alter the path

or rather... speed

the energyt is the energy I suppose heh

Eventually it might not matter if they make crap small and light enough

release the nanobots!

[verbal raft]

CDPR......

[tough owl]

so they made fsr worse?

[twin dew]

Yes.

[verbal raft]

through either malice or gross incompetence

im personally thinking malice

[tough owl]

is it possible nvidia paid them to do so

since nvidia seems to the be the partner for this game

[verbal raft]

welp
at least FSR 4 looks good
they havent found a way to f"ck that up too yet

[verbal raft]

if it was malice then thats almost certainly why

[tough owl]

glorious

wonder how many other games this is the case

[twin dew]

Long time Nvidia trademark to put in stuff like that in games they partner with.
Even sometimes making them worse for their own older cards.

Intentionally.

Basically those games get Nvidia programmers supporting implementing stuff in the game.

Not just advice, actual programmer hours worked on the games.

[verbal raft]

i dont think there are many other games where the devs make FSR intentionally worse than it other wise could be

[mental oriole]

that should be illegal

[verbal raft]

most cases crappy FSR impelentations are most likely just from not caring

[verbal raft]

then people will be like
"oh look, lackwell aged better than ADA"

[twin dew]

But been happening since "The Way It's Meant To Be Played" program was started, even when the branding is now different.

[faint vale]

na -- user 860530939440660541

[mental oriole]

??

[karmic socket]

moo?

[twin dew]

At best case, helping to optimize for few newest generations of Nvidia cards, but not to older Nvidia or other manufacturer GPUs.
At worst, intentionally recommending/doing stuff that only works well on the latest Nvidia cards, like with early tesselation, where Nvidias newest implementation suffered less when doing insane levels of tesselation.

Than earlier Nvidia GPUs generations, or any AMD GPU.

Which is why AMD GPU drivers still have that "Optimize tesselation factor" setting in them.

Early hardware accelerated tesselation.

Where ATI/AMD first HW implementation handled usable multipliers fine, but suffered severely at insane levels.
And Nvidias first HW implementation degraded less steeply, but might even have been slower at lower multipliers.

[twin dew]

At least when this was first added, it just acted as max tesselation factor clamp.
With some generic value for games with no profile, and game specific values for some games, so the change wasn't really visible, but "fixed" any games with insane factors.

[night girder]

Probably is illegal? If one can proof it.

[visual tree]

Apparently, there are people who are dumb enough to throw diapers into the toilet

My coworker's apartment building almost got flooded because of that idiot....

Good thing he called a plumber on time who unclogged the vertical drainage

I still don't understand how you can push diaper through the toilet though

[hot reef]

https://github.com/spotopolis/PicoGarageDoor

This a little project I built to allow me to control my garage door from my phone when within range of my home WiFi

[visual tree]

Didn't your garage door motor come with a remote controller?

I find them more practical than pulling out a phone even though I like the idea of connecting the garage door to wifi so you can control it through a website

Or If you want to go hardcore, you have to solve sudoku puzzle in order to open/close garage door

[soft bloom]

yeah, sure... "mine"

[mental oriole]

"yours"

[visual tree]

You will own nothing and be happy

[night girder]

brood en spelen - Panem et circenses

[visual tree]

I pray this doesn't become a reality https://youtu.be/CHpADN9n7t8

[hot reef]

Yes, but I keep that in my car attached to my sun visor. This is 1.) so when Im on my motorcycle, I have my phone mounted to the handlebars and can open it when Im within range of the driveway. 2.) It also allows my son to open the garage if he forgets his keys.

[night girder]

There is no extra security? As in the API post.

[visual tree]

Oh, understandable 👍

[night girder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNodxp9Jy4A

[visual tree]

Guess I'll have to block the garage door motor when I'm not at home

[night girder]

Or get malinois 😉

If somebody opens the garage door that isn't suppose to do that, they are in for a lovely surprise 😄

[visual tree]

There is a pull cord in my garage to hard lock the doors

[night girder]

I don't have such fancy garage doors 🙁

[visual tree]

https://youtube.com/shorts/qbYFhj-J0Lg

Burglar breaks in...

Me: "I hate this..."

[hot reef]

Isnt the pull cord is typically to release the door from the motor making it so you can open and close it by hand? To lock it, they usually have a lever on the inside of the door that latches inside the rails stopping the movement.

[visual tree]

Mine has 2 positions: first one allows me to open the door with a motor

If I set it to second position, I think it locks the garage doors afaik

[hot reef]

I guess its also a regional thing and then up to whatever brand you have plus its age. The sample size of 5 or 6 I have used in my home area probably isnt big enough of a pool to see everything out there

[charred relic]

But....

[visual tree]

I have a different motor but the setup looks pike this:

[hot reef]

I bet it would be easy to rig up some small speakers to the PicoW Im running this on and make it play an audio queue of ADA saying something related to the garage whenever I open/close it

[visual tree]

I have that rope with a ball on the end

[charred relic]

I have an app for my garage door...

[night girder]

Or something scary

[hot reef]

My garage door motor is 30+ years old. No app for it. This was a sub $10 project to add that functionality to it.

[charred relic]

Ah neat

Well it'd have to be pretty old to not have that lol

[night girder]

It's a cool project, like I said. If you bored you could probably make it a little bit more secure 😛

besides that 🤷‍♂️

[charred relic]

I'd just end up buying a new door... I never learned to code 😄

Don't think my brain is really wired for it

[visual tree]

I had a very old american motor brand called "genius" before. It used the same frequency as the military and the garage doors opened by themselves once because the motor picked up a frequency lol

[night girder]

Your military is very special @visual tree

You roomba goes off by itself. You garage doors open. Wtf are they even doing?

[hot reef]

Ive already swapped from the PicoW to a Pi Zero 2W and added a UPS to it so if there is a power outage or brownout, it stays running. Even coded the UPS stats into the webpage.

[visual tree]

Correction: the brand is called Genie, not Genius 😅

The company is still manufacturing motors

[charred relic]

Oh yeah they have been around forever

[visual tree]

The first one is not confirmed but the second one was definitely caused by military because the repairman told me

[charred relic]

Pretty sure that's what my uncle had in MO and that was back in the early 80's

I could be mistaken but I'm pretty sure his was a Genie

[visual tree]

He got surprised when he found out I had an ancient garage door motor and didn't expect to see it working after all those years

[charred relic]

Yeah well I dunno about now but they used to be known for being quality

Companies change...

[hot reef]

Mine is old enough to have the dip switches to control what radio freq the remote and motor are on.

Granted, Im sure thats still common today

[visual tree]

I had something like this:

[hot reef]

Looks brand new compared to mine!

[charred relic]

My motor always gets WAY more bugs on one side than the other (has a cover on each side with a bulb). It has to have something to do with the electronics

The side that gets overloaded with them is the electronics side of the unit... it's odd

[night girder]

They know, their own country is not the enemy right? 😄

[hot reef]

Might be the smell of old caps or something leaking that is attracting them. Something offgassing would be my guess.

[charred relic]

It's definitely something because for years and years that side gets WAY more dead bugs in it

Like night and day

[visual tree]

I had a very unique case because modern electronics don't share the same frequency as a military but I still used a very old motor which nobody expected to see anywhere

[charred relic]

adjusts tinfoil hat

it's the gooberment using their mind control devices

[visual tree]

Lol

[night girder]

And that's why I don't have wireless doors.

Except the car 🙁

[charred relic]

brb gonna run laps around the outside of my house naked...

[visual tree]

Btw, wasn't there a case in UK where some guy still used a very old TV that caused internet outage at exactly 07:00 in the morning?

My example is like that, you have a very old device and it works in funny ways in modern times

[night girder]

Yes, there was indeed a notable case in the UK where an old television caused significant internet outages. This incident occurred in Aberhosan, Powys, and lasted for 18 months before it was resolved.
📺 The Incident

Time of Outage: The outages consistently happened at 7:00 AM every morning.
Cause: Engineers discovered that an old television set in a household was emitting electrical interference that disrupted the broadband signal for the entire village. The interference was identified as a single high-level impulse noise (SHINE), which affected the broadband connectivity.
Resolution: Once the household was informed about the issue, they agreed to stop using the problematic TV, and the broadband service was restored without further incidents.

This case highlights how even outdated technology can have unexpected impacts on modern infrastructure, illustrating the importance of thorough investigations when technical issues arise.

-- totally not AI generated.

[pure karma]

[night girder]

"they agreed to stop using the problematic TV" 🤣

[visual tree]

I wonder if broadband infrastructure was copper-based though. Not sure if this would happen on fiber since it's immune to interference

Cable internet is prone to interference

[hot reef]

That shouldn't have been and issue if they were using properly shielded RJ6 cable

The issue is when you have bad fittings or poor cable

[night girder]

So their TV was some kind of EMP?

[hot reef]

All electronics emmit EM. Thats why old stuff like the NES or XBOX have the metal cage around them if you open them up, to reduce EM interference.

[visual tree]

You could say that 😅

[hot reef]

If you were into modding old consoles that ran on the old TV cable/ant port instead of composite/component, and you removed that sheild, you would get static on your tube tv

[visual tree]

I had an old NES but I sold it....

[sand saddle]

Damn home cinema receivers are bulky and expensive.
And then there's the question how compatible it will be with my TVs implementation of hdmi cec 😬

[hot reef]

I have an OG Xbox next to me that I modded to remove the PSU for a slim PICO ATX power source, replaced the old heatsinks with old VGA copper heatsinks and fans, removed / bypassed the DVD drive, swapped the HDD for an SDD, and have a kit to replace the video output with pure digital HDMI.

[sand saddle]

HDMI CEC should work with only a receiver and TV, right? Nothing else like a console to add to the confusion...

[hot reef]

It should as long as they both support it and the specific HDMI ports you are plugging in are the ones marked for it. They should be labeled.

[visual tree]

"DSL lines are susceptible to electromagnetic interference from CRT (cathode ray tube) TVs and other devices, as US ISP Sonic notes in a help article. Fiber lines, by contrast, deliver data traffic using light instead of electrical signals. OpenReach reportedly plans to connect Aberhosan to fiber later this year, which could help prevent future outages, but copper DSL lines heading into homes might remain in place if this isn't a full fiber-to-the-home upgrade."

As suspected, the network was copper-based which is prone to interference

[hot reef]

As soon as Google Fiber was in my area I ditched Spectrum (Time Warner) as my ISP and went to the Googs. Now I have symmetrical 5Gig

[visual tree]

Nice

[sand saddle]

Must be nice being rich

[visual tree]

I can only get 1 gbit/s download and 500 mbit/s upload when I get fiber soon (ISP is doing some construction atm)

Not to mention I work for that ISP so I can get fiber faster lol

[hot reef]

I am far from rich. But $127 a month is not bad for that speed

[sand saddle]

I'm paying like €30 for 150/30 5G

1G fiber is coming next year but my current plan ends in 2

[hot reef]

Thier symetrical 1G up / down was $75 a month, so to me the extra was worth it for the 5Gig

[visual tree]

29€ for basic speed up to 350 mbit/s here. 1 gbit/s speed is €33

[hot reef]

And I actually use it since I run several servers, and I sync 10Gb to 20Gb files constantly for work

[sand saddle]

Okay mine is more like 20, got a cheap router and the 5G modem in the monthly payments as well

[visual tree]

Once ISP migrates from GPON to NG-PON2, speeds will be higher although even 1 gbit/s is overkill for 90% of people

[hot reef]

I bypassed my Google Fiber ONT with an XGS-PON SFP+ module. Now I have their firber running directly into my firewall and dont have to go from their fiber to ethernet. My whole backend is pure 10G fiber

[visual tree]

I was considering getting Dream Router 7 which has sfp port

Just need to buy an sfp module

[hot reef]

Im running a Minisforum MS-01 miniPC that has 2x 10G SFP+ ports on it. Then just running OPNSense on that miniPC

Then that goes out to a switch that has 2x 10G SPF+ ports, 2x 10G ethernet ports, and 12x 2.5G PoE ethernet ports and I run my Unify AP off of that switch.

[visual tree]

Oh nice. I have Unifi U6+ atm

Better than stupid routers with integrated wifi imo

[hot reef]

Im running the U6 Enterprise. I want to upgrade to the U7 Max

I just dont have a whole lot of devices to justify the upgrade to it, but I waaaaant it

[visual tree]

I will probably end up with Dream Router 7 as an access point on one side of the house and u6+ on the other side of the house so every corner has decent signal

Have concrete walls which weaken the signal

[hot reef]

Im about to move from my duplex to a house that will be about double the square footage, but also adding 3 more people. So Ill need to figure out how and where to wire everything again

AND I cant just have it all in the open like a do now. Ill actually have to do a good job tucking stuff away. Right now its just me and my two kids, but once I move in with the GF and her two kids, she'll want everything to be hidden. ALL STUPID MAN TECH IN THE BASEMENT

[visual tree]

Probably shouldn't see my cable mess behind the PC lol

[hot reef]

Wont be able to keep my 3d printers in the bedroom anymore either

[visual tree]

I really need to organize those cables though....

[night girder]

I hate cables.

So much work to make em look good.

[hot reef]

Cleaning up cables is great and all until you need to move something

[night girder]

Yeah, still need to find the "perfect" way for cable management.

[hot reef]

Best thing to do ( IMHO ) is make sure you have extra length, make sure the cables are laid on top of each other without going through or around each other, and then try to loosely tuck them behind something without tight bends. If they are wrapped in twist ties, or cable ties, that's just going to cause a mess when you need to eventually trace a cable or move something. At the very least do future you a big favor and untangle the cables before tying them up.

[wanton orchid]

it's even worse moving thing if you didnt clean it up first

[charred relic]

Dozed off about 8PM... woke up an hour and a half later and a Quest 3 had magically appeard on my porch

[pure karma]

make sure you have like 47 spotlights to shine at it cause the tracking is going to have a stroke otherwise

[charred relic]

I can make it shine like a sunny day in here if I really want to heh

Have a couple of spare LED arrays

1000w total... but that's a bit extreme for this 😄

[charred relic]

Sitting here in mixed reality installing my games and updates... always makes me feel like a giant nerd lol

Golf+ is a bit of a chonker... 17GB

I had space issues with 128GB... I'd imagine having 512 will solve that

[languid gulch]

fuck it, buy a sabrent 8TB

[safe trench]

small

use an external nas with 80tb + external hdd attached to the back

[languid gulch]

i want that 3.5" form factor thingy with nothing but NVMe's on it

would be nice if they just started selling that kind of modular stuff, empty

[charred relic]

Can the Quest 3 even use usb storage?

newp... would be cool if i could strap my lil nvme based external to the head strap and plug that in haha

Actually my bad it's not nvme, ssd... still more than fast enough to load games from

[visual tree]

Told my mother she should have bought a Toyota instead of Volkswagen but she didn't like hard seats in Toyota C-HR and gave up....

I don't think I've ever seen Rivian in Europe lol

[mental oriole]

Same.

[mental oriole]

Being picky for sure ehh.

[pure karma]

I haven’t seen a rivian but i did see a white cyber truck one time

[visual tree]

I haven't seen cybertruck yet lol

I've seen Tesla Optimus in a local Tesla car store though

[kindred fulcrum]

ive seen plenty of rivians in massachusstes as well as evs but ive seen more ebikes then e cars and i also have an ebike and i even stole motor cycles saying with check twice save a life ebikes are everywhere

basically a giant middle finger to all motor cycle lovers

[twin dew]

Cannot be sold in EU.

Cannot be made to conform to pedestrian safety regulations.

[visual tree]

Oh, totally forgot about that

I am more afraid of cyclists than a cybertruck though. There were many times a cyclist almost hit me while I was walking

My dad got hit by a cyclist once but fell on his hands and only had small bruises

The cyclist simply turned around, said sorry and left without checking if my dad was ok

[kindred fulcrum]

well did you know ebikers like me are more observent of pedestrials seen im a rare breed if ebiker i use bright headlights full face helmet sometimes turn signals as well as beeping my horn to let pedestrians know im coming through

[visual tree]

He is lucky I wasn't there because I would have killed him

Here, most cyclists are irresponsible and drive around like crazy

Not to mention they are supposed to get off the bike when crossing a road according to the law but almost nobody does that

[kindred fulcrum]

@visual tree you see i prooritize safety over speed making sure if i am coming up on someone walking i slow down and wait till i can go around them or if there coming towards me i just get out of there way the side walk aint big enough for both of us so i let people walking go first sense i am a very careful ebiker

[visual tree]

Unfortunately, cyclists here prefer opposite: speed over safety

[kindred fulcrum]

and if its night time i also have high powered led headlamp as well as making sure im the brightest thing in the area

plus i even use dual headlights the bikes defualt like with my led light bar one pointed down for spoting things one aimed ahead to make sure i can see if people are coming towards me its called not getting run over

[soft bloom]

and not worries about electric mopeds?

i don't think i know how the "self-rolling" thingy would be called 🙂

but it truly proves it's name once something goes bad

[visual tree]

My city recently banned electric scooters on pedestrian zones

They are even more dangerous than bicycles

[soft bloom]

thin skateboard with slightly larger wheels and the wheel on a stick

[soft bloom]

if they are called scooters, then what's the name for ones with a seat?

zoo of small single-person vehicles needs some proper categorization

so far there seems to be lots of unsupervised breeding between species

[visual tree]

Most people here call the ones with seat mopeds

They can be electric or use fossil fuel

While scooters are electric ones where you don't have a seat (I don't think I've ever seen one running on fuel)

[soft bloom]

hmmm
is "ped" a core or suffix of sorts?
like, there's "velosiPED" which is a bike in english

[soft bloom]

yeah, and with no engine it seems to be "kick scooter"

[soft bloom]

there definitely where designs with larger whels and engine inside front one

[visual tree]

Tomos? (once popular kick moped brand here)

[soft bloom]

choo choo?

no idea what's tomos

but this is what DDG says

[visual tree]

They went bankrupt: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomos

[soft bloom]

thing is though, forme that has completely different meaning because of local politics scene

[visual tree]

There are a lot of false friends in slavic languages btw

[soft bloom]

slovak being dirty

bow-onion is funny cause in russian it can be both 🙂

language is complex, it almost seems like chinese would be a better way of communicating

[karmic socket]

Anyone knows of a good 4K/ultra HD player for pc ? I can find some external/USB ones on amazon but they look "chinese".

[twin dew]

Player of what?
What are you actually looking for, because you just mentioned a resolution, not the tech/thing you want to play.

[karmic socket]

ultra HD blurays

[twin dew]

For that the software is the hard part.

Only computers with activated Software Guard Extensions (SGX) support Ultra HD Blu-ray playback. Intel introduced SGX in the Skylake generation Core processors in 2016, enabling PCs to play protected Blu-ray discs. In January 2022, Intel deprecated support for SGX for the Rocket Lake and Alder Lake generation desktop processors, leading to Ultra HD Blu-ray discs being unplayable on those systems, even with licensed software such as PowerDVD.

[karmic socket]

oh 🙁

[twin dew]

Following that Intel has stopped supporting the SGX feature on all new CPU models, in April 2025, Intel has shut down the Intel SGX verification server, and it has revoked all the old CPU models that still supported the Intel SGX feature to enable the feature further on compatible platforms. The Ultra HD Blu-ray discs playback feasibility has officially ceased on all Windows PC platforms accordingly without using DRM cracking (disc ripping) method.

[glossy glacier]

GG Intel & Blu-Ray devs

[karmic socket]

Sony and Intel screwing people -.-

[twin dew]

The companies behind Blu-Ray rather not support PC playback, than make piracy/ripping easier.
Even when ripping works.

Basically that SGX requirement was supposed to make the protection keys not rippable from legit playback software.

[glossy glacier]

at least there is vlc and cracking libs

[twin dew]

Last paragraph:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_HD_Blu-ray#PC_playback

So didn't even work in the end.

[glossy glacier]

from what i heard SGX was a clusterfuck anyway

[twin dew]

Yes, it was completely invalidated later by found security faults.

And almost no-one bothered to start using it anyways, even before that.

[dire igloo]

tbf, cock in English has both of those meanings too

[wanton orchid]

thankfully, was a big bait anyway

[languid gulch]

think i'll be officially calling it on my dead drive

thankfully there was nothing important on it, just sucks to lose an 8TB one

i let it sit for a couple months to see if that'd somehow resurrect it 🤣

[glossy glacier]

For resurrection contact your local Necromancer

[languid gulch]

k, fun question time

anyone know if someone makes something like this, but with more M.2 slots?

3.5" adapter

i'm reminded of that ridiculous 100TB one on LTT that has like 5 stacks of nand flash on it

[glossy glacier]

Best bet for weird adapters is icydock

[languid gulch]

not really concerned about bandwidth with it, just about accessing each drive

or it being raid

[safe trench]

3.5" sata to usb hub adapter with 2 extra hubs and all attached with nvme extensions

[languid gulch]

dont tempt me

[charred relic]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[languid gulch]

oh you shoulda seen my first "serious" attempt at making something decent

it involved one of those cheap ass 4 way usb 2.0 hubs, and plugging in my mouse, plus 3 external spinning drives

[safe trench]

probably not even that expensive

[languid gulch]

oh it'd be cheap, and also crap

[safe trench]

so?

[languid gulch]

lol

[safe trench]

do it for the meme

[languid gulch]

i do already have a 7 port usb plugged into the bottom PCIe slot

[safe trench]

fil it all with nvme adapters

[languid gulch]

🤣

[safe trench]

it wont even be slow
(nor reliable)

[languid gulch]

only got 1 nvme enclosure so far

[safe trench]

whats the hold up

buy more

[languid gulch]

🤣

but i want the brick of NVMe's

[safe trench]

you can get the dingaling of nvmes
(degenerates know what i mean)

[languid gulch]

NVMe Squid

[safe trench]

already found one 🤣
https://www.amazon.com/HAYOOVANT-Tool-Free-Enclosure-10Gbps-Compatible/dp/B0DYK1ZVB6

complete with bullshit lies

know what
make it all from different brands for the squidd

[languid gulch]

oh i've got one of those, different brand

way smaller too

[safe trench]

you cannot beat my retardation.

[languid gulch]

i kept my game drive on it for like 3 months even tho my mobo has FIVE NVMe slots

[safe trench]

just get like the biggest most expensive ones you can find while putting only 1 nvme slot in wiht getting them all from different brands/models

no reputable brands too

[languid gulch]

i did do a "why the hell would you try" earlier tonight

so, that dead drive

i tried to run it off one of my 2.5" enclosures that can completely disassemble to just the PCB with the sata/data pins and usb port

[safe trench]

Indian Technolgies ™

[languid gulch]

stole the TM to add to my stickynote of useful symbols 🤣

[safe trench]

just found this while looking up most unreliable nvmes

[languid gulch]

what in the AI is that

i do agree with Paul's Hardware that there's a conspiracy about keeping most NVMe drives for consumers at 4TB max

just like the 4TB (generally) max for 2.5" drives too

[dire igloo]

Don't forget to use that with a DRAMless drive

[twin dew]

That one is SATA m.2:s only, and needs one SATA cable per drive, so pretty pointless IMHO.

[languid gulch]

is there a way to access multiple drives like that thru a single data cable at the same time?

[twin dew]

Multiplexers, SATA has native support for those in theory, in practice all the cheap implementations have been crappy.
For PCIe, again multiplexers, but the price is insane, after the only maker of cheap consumer level ones was bought.

[languid gulch]

melanox i assume

[twin dew]

No.

Don't remember, IIRC bought by BroadCom again and shittified up.

[languid gulch]

ah

[twin dew]

Ah, sorry, PCIe switches in this case, multiplexers in PCIe parlance have much more functionality.

PLX Technology and their PEX line of chips, now part of BroadCom.

That companys products were how older high-end MBs had so much nominal PCIe connectivity over what chipset provided, and that went away once Broadcom bought them in 2014.

As broadcom jacked up the prices and only targeted enterprise with much more margins.

[languid gulch]

blah

yea i hate when that kind of adapter tech isn't available even tho it could be

[twin dew]

So now the PCIe 3.0, 5-port 12-lane chip costs around 60e each, in large quantities.
As in 12 lanes to split between inputs and outputs, so can do 4x in, 2x 4x out, or 4x in, 4x 2x out.
As the cheapest model.

[languid gulch]

would it just be stupid to have something like 12x NVMe slots in a 3.5" box, with 12 sata data links

[twin dew]

NVMe is PCIe, not SATA.

[languid gulch]

oh sorry, M.2

[twin dew]

Who would be the target market for something like that?
When for actual storage you could get large-capacity single enterprise drive for cheaper in the end?

[languid gulch]

i was thinking of it mainly as a sled you could upgrade capacity on over time

[twin dew]

SATA m.2 drives are dead.

No new models or larger capacity versions coming out.

[languid gulch]

well, that'd at least explain the lack of that kind of structure

i was kinda hoping for a 3.5" size sled with room for a bunch of 2280 drives that you could just slide in place and fire up with sata connection, not really caring about the lower data rate

[wanton orchid]

sata m.2 was only a step to avoid market splitting ssd manufacturers

it never has been intended to stick

[dire igloo]

Tho the 2.5" SSD market has also become rather irrelevant

[wanton orchid]

as expected

[willow pike]

no fuckin wonder they all vanished

it was cool having PLX everywhere

[twin dew]

Yeah, but then the price per chip went from 5-15e to price of cheap MB at minimum, each.

[willow pike]

average broadcomm moment

y'know there's a small but non zero chance that when intel goes tits up, broadcomm buys out the chip design part, refuses to renegotiate the x86 license with AMD (which ends immediately if either party is acquired), and gets to kill off x86 completely

intel still needs AMD64 and AMD still needs all the intel licenses, they depend on each other

[verbal raft]

XeSS DP4A and no RT are not friends in this game

[willow pike]

eesh

xess plz

[jagged snow]

https://www.newegg.com/yescom-usa-inc-04gls001-pre-06/p/21U-002B-00001

[pure karma]

Xess just creates a bunch of screen flickering for me

[verbal raft]

I Love how XeSS went from second best upscaler to 4th best

[pure karma]

so i cant use it 🫡

[willow pike]

swear to fuck fsr2/3/3.1/etc is mostly better

and that's not even an upscaler imo

[pure karma]

i will say one thing intel having there own frame gen would desperately help them

[willow pike]

though I'm kinda fuckin' with the definition of words and you'll get Diogenes real fast

[verbal raft]

Only 2.1 and 3.1 can sometimes be better than XeSS

[pure karma]

cause there in the performance range where its worth the quality sacrifice

[verbal raft]

(And 4 is always better)

[verbal raft]

they do have FG now, but its in like 15games so..

[pure karma]

is it any good?

or is fsr framegen still just the way to go

[willow pike]

in my opinion xess, dlss and fsr4 are upscalers in that they try to best guess what a lower resolution input will be using ML; fsr3.1 and below are Very competent implementations of TAA that happen to be kinda useable as upscalers

[verbal raft]

2.0,2.2,2.3/3.0 are all Much worse

[willow pike]

but you can't use fsr3.1 etc to go from 720p to 1440p and expect to have a good time

[pure karma]

well you cant really do that on any of them....

at most just one resolution bracket bellow native

[willow pike]

the ML upscalers will look smeary but it's a miracle you get anything good out of them

[pure karma]

so 1080 to 1440 1440 to 4K and so on

[willow pike]

FSR devolves into noise

(not FSR4)

the outlier here is xess which is ML and sucks

hey how the fuck does xess LL work anyway

is it like Intel jank latencyflex

[verbal raft]

For 2.0 its excessive ghosting for 2.2/.3/3.0 its excessive shimmer crazy disoclusion and terrible fine detail recons

[verbal raft]

While noise is the most apparent problem it also looses fine details a LOT quicker than ML upscalers

[willow pike]

ye

FSR (not 4) are best used at native or near native

xess somehow looks trash at native in my experience

but fsr3.1 at native is basically the best taa you'll ever get

[verbal raft]

XeSS loves being soft

[willow pike]

is a genuine miracle how good fsr4 is

[verbal raft]

Unless you count DLSS and FSR 4

[willow pike]

yeah you know what I'm trying to say

still hopeful we'll get fsr4 lite on rdna3

for all those apus

[verbal raft]

Would you still be hopefull if it ended up being an XeSS rebrand ?

(Quality wise)

[verbal raft]

[willow pike]

i will turn to dust

[dire igloo]

Is any FrameGen the way to go?