#off-topic-tech | Satisfactory | Page 173

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 1:57 AM

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For one the fans are doubling as exhaust

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quiet too...

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 1:57 AM

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ok tell me i'm crazy if i do this

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 1:57 AM

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Guess that happens when the fans don't have to spin all that fast

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 1:58 AM

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current AIO is up top with its provided fans, non RGB

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i have 6 RGB PWM fans

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that aren't as good of flow

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 1:58 AM

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My rear fan is non rgb... and my rad fans

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 1:58 AM

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swap em

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no questions asked

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 1:58 AM

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I kinda wish the rad fans were rgb... i could replace them easy enough

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 1:59 AM

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pure karma no questions asked

they're slower by quite a lot

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like half the airflow

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 1:59 AM

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My 3 intake fans are all sync'd rgb

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 1:59 AM

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stack them on top of eachother

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 1:59 AM

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Thise lian li setups where the fans attack together

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err attach

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 1:59 AM

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do you mean
fan-rad-fan
or
fan-fan-rad

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 1:59 AM

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They might attack together when I'm not looking, I can't comfirm that they don't....

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:00 AM

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charred relic Thise lian li setups where the fans attack together

yea i have 6 of those they are sweet

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:00 AM

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languid gulch do you mean fan-rad-fan or fan-fan-rad

fan fan rad cause its funier

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:00 AM

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fuck you're right

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:00 AM

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I like the modular design... i think these can go up to 4 sync'd or some such, I dunno I just needed 3 together

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but I want one of these fans for the rear and 3 more for the rad lol

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:00 AM

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especially in a $250 fishtank case with 7 corsair RGB fans

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:01 AM

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bit pricey but they are nice

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:01 AM

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oh i just grabbed the cheapass thermalright triple fan bundles off amazon for like $12

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:01 AM

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My rear exhause is grey... guess what brand

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:01 AM

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the small ones like the jonsbo i got are cheap but obviously dont have freedom levels of clearance and nothing but nvmes as an option for storage

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:01 AM

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charred relic My rear exhause is grey... guess what brand

transferred my grey noctuas to my mom's pc

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:02 AM

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I'm glad they did a grey version

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That brown really only works with certain color scehemes lol

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:02 AM

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ya know what

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:02 AM

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I mean they look fine but the color isn't very... I dunno

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:02 AM

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with all the new woodwork on cases they might end up looking great on those

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:02 AM

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i still dont know how i managed to make this build work🤣

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:03 AM

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Yeah they'd look good in those... my keyboard has wood grain ends and I keep the lights a brown color that's similar

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so the led's match the ends

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:03 AM

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pure karma i still dont know how i managed to make this build work🤣

that one sata cable is like ACKNOWLEDGE ME

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:04 AM

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I almost didn't run any SATA cables... due to only having a couple of drives that weren't that big

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Then I'm like nah I can dual or triple boot onto these and threw them in

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:04 AM

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my case got horrible reviews from GN, and they were right on every single point

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:04 AM

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languid gulch that one sata cable is like ACKNOWLEDGE ME

Worst part is that its front io so i literally cant get rid of it tired_jace

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:04 AM

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GN does good work heh

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:05 AM

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if i hadn't needed to add anything in, i would have been fine

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but no

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:05 AM

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They seem to give fair takes from what I've seen

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:05 AM

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to add in my HDDs i had to unmount the psu to pop the drive cage out

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:05 AM

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It always comes back out somehow even if i wedge it in there

thin trout Jul 5, 2025, 2:06 AM

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turns out that the thermal density of parallel processors is actually pretty low and if you just put a big ass heatsink on them, you can cool them really easily with low noise

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:06 AM

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pure karma It always comes back out somehow even if i wedge it in there

it's a success if it fits behind the panel, isn't seen, and doesn't rub on anything mechanical

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:06 AM

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the HDD dosent fit tho lol

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thats why i have the pannel off

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i need to plug in the HDD whenever i want to use it and just leave it out lol

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:07 AM

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thin trout turns out that the thermal density of parallel processors is actually pretty low...

if i didn't have to worry about stuff like VRMs i'd be tempted to grab that thermalright 360 AIO and mount it to the 4090 in a vertical mount

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it probably couldn't handle the power tho 🤣

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intentionally?

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oh yea vinyl burns

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wait, do you mean transferring vinyl records?

thin trout Jul 5, 2025, 2:08 AM

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languid gulch if i didn't have to worry about stuff like VRMs i'd be tempted to grab that ther...

power connector will melt first

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:08 AM

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probably

thin trout Jul 5, 2025, 2:08 AM

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this is 5090 gpu bound on satisfactory w/ air

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:08 AM

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oh i'm just on a 4090

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"just"

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:09 AM

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10/10 clearance

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this drive is so darn fat

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:09 AM

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sexy

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ok ngl i'd stuff this all in the smallest case i could

thin trout Jul 5, 2025, 2:09 AM

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between offset liquid freezer II cooler bracket and m.2 slot i had a measured 0.3mm gap once 😄

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:12 AM

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i wish it was easy to find the smallest volume case for a standard ATX mobo

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even pcpp doesn't do a good job of it

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:13 AM

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languid gulch ok ngl i'd stuff this all in the smallest case i could

Thats practically what i did 😂

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:13 AM

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I think one day soon I'm going to break out the beast server

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the old Dell PowerEdge dual PIII

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Complete with hot swappable everything.... and redundant everything

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:14 AM

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pure karma Thats practically what i did 😂

i bet you could do a 3d printed backet under the PSU for that

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:14 AM

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... in theory it'll boot into Windows 2000

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:14 AM

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Erm maybe?

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Like i said this drive is very fat

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:15 AM

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maybe not with that sled

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:15 AM

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its longer than the case is wide i think

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:15 AM

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got a 90 degree sata/power cable?

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that might buy you enough room

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:17 AM

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i dont think it would be enough

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:17 AM

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damn

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ok, batshit suggestion

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tape it to the PSU

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or velcro

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:19 AM

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or yq i could use the slower M.2 slot and just get another m.2 😂

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:19 AM

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also this case is so damn tiny that custom length shortened cables might be worth it

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:19 AM

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this psu isent supported

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for custom cables

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:19 AM

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pure karma or yq i could use the slower M.2 slot and just get another m.2 😂

or a couple of fat 2.5" ones

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:20 AM

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I hvae one more drive I could install to expand my storage... the first SSD I owned. 90GB

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:20 AM

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what capacity is the HDD?

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:20 AM

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1TB

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:20 AM

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i might plug it in just to see it's power on hours

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:20 AM

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oh that's nothing

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:20 AM

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with like 10K hours on it

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:21 AM

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oof

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:21 AM

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and the only thing its storing is a windows old install

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:21 AM

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yea spend the $20 for a 1tb NVMe

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:21 AM

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use to be my game drive lol

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back in the stone age of the alienware era

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hence the blue rails

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:21 AM

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2 of my Dell 1TB HDDs have died within a year

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started making the screaming sounds

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:22 AM

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this one knocks

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but works somehow

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:22 AM

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oh yea that's time to yank everything off it anyway

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:23 AM

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lol

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the click of DEATH

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:23 AM

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i just find it funny that it could probably survive a freaking car crash in its original position where Alienware installed it originally

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:23 AM

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could just grab an external enclosure for it in the meantime

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:24 AM

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Literally protected from every angle

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:24 AM

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Sometimes I miss the whine of hard drives spinning up and clicking

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 2:24 AM

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charred relic Sometimes I miss the whine of hard drives spinning up and clicking

oh i miss the old chunky noises

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floppy drive seating

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:24 AM

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my new 8Tb one clunks sometimes

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but its pretty rare

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:26 AM

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If i buy a used server I'll get to experience more than enough hard drive sounds since It'll probably have 8-12+ drives in it

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10k or 12k RPM SAS

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One I looked at had pretty good hardware RAID on it too

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:29 AM

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pure karma my new 8Tb one clunks sometimes

i love the sound it makes

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:29 AM

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i miss dial up sounds too 😄

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:29 AM

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and its loud too so as long as the fans are at idle you can hear it in the background

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:29 AM

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ATDT 4705012

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I used to be able to speak Hayes heh

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I look back and some of the stuff we used seems so silly now. Like my first modem (300bits/s) involved picking up a phone by hand, dialing the remote system, when it answered you'd press a button on the modem taking it off the hook, hang up the phone, modems establish communication

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 2:34 AM

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dial up seems so distopian to me

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calling a phone line to conect to the internet everytime just sounds unreal

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 2:35 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpMrTxMV6E4

YouTube

Thykka

Dialup modem connecting

Original graph and details: http://windytan.blogspot.fi/2012/11/the-sound-of-dialup-pictured.html

▶ Play video

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I used to know and be able to identify all of those parts of the communication by sound back then lol

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sometimes even if it failed a reasonable bitrate

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56k was very much an only existed on paper thing lol

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Nobody ever actually connected at that

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I guess maybe a great carrier... and the CO is in your front yard...

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And the data center is within a few miles...

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You might get 56k then 😄

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We used to flex on the poor with our 14.4 modems :/

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*poors

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lol

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I can't even imagine what the modern internet would be like at even 56k dialup

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basically unusable i'd imagine

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First thing I ever pirated from a BBS was Ms Pacman for PC. Took about 35+ minutes. I transfer that in less than a blink now

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That's beyond night and day differences...

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And the game didn't even matter, we barely played it. It was the newness and excitement of it all...

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I mean I could send my buddy a file...without either of us leaving the house! Revolutionary!

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 3:11 AM

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i like the idea that if a product isn't in active production, a timer starts, say 5-10 years, and after that it becomes open source/expired

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do something like pharma patents, where you have access & can make a generic version after 10 years

thin trout Jul 5, 2025, 3:15 AM

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charred relic i might plug it in just to see it's power on hours

my best

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 3:15 AM

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that's 12 fucking years

thin trout Jul 5, 2025, 3:15 AM

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how long have ssds been out

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 3:16 AM

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yes i broke out the calculator

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uhhhh sounds like about that long for sanely priced ones for home use 🤣

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 3:16 AM

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100K hours is wild

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 3:17 AM

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yea for any drive

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that's one you frame & give a proper funeral to

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when it does go

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 3:18 AM

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were gona start making cofins for hard drives now 😆

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 3:19 AM

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i was thinking a box frame

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give it a little plaque

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do one of those disassembly ones with the platters laid out

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 6:06 AM

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oh wow I forgot i loaded two point earlier than tabbed out and never went back to it

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 6:20 PM

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charred relic oh wow I forgot i loaded two point earlier than tabbed out and never went back t...

Iv been there

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After a certain performance class a game running in tge background is just no longer noticeable hehe

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 6:21 PM

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Well I'd imagine two point paused isn't exactly a resource hog haha

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I didn't notice... for hours

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 6:22 PM

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i don’t notice even stuff like BeamNG which are not easy to run by any means

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regular 30GB+ ram usage if you turn on mirrors and the whole shabang

gilded helm Jul 5, 2025, 7:58 PM

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languid gulch i like the idea that if a product isn't in active production, a timer starts, sa...

You'd need to remove the active production clause or else you'll get zombie products to prevent anyone else from using the IP. This is already rampant with art related IP, which does work that way.

swift oxide Jul 5, 2025, 8:21 PM

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Im not sure if someone can help me with this, but more heads thinks better then one,

I have a server that doesn't support PCIe boot, since i got a new machine i was gonna leave this one to be my dedicated NAS but i have a problem, the on-board SATA controller doesn't have enough SATA ports for two mirrored SSDs for TrueNAS plus all the disks i have to plug in, i have a couple of Intel Optane's 16GB NVMes i wanted to use for the system but my mobo doesn't support PCIe boot, i've played with GRUB around for a bit but the mobo doesn't expose the NVMe drives so i can't just make my own GRUB config to boot from them, they're invisible until the OS boots and sees them.

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Is there another boot loader with NVMe support for systems that don't have PCIe boot options?

The mobo supports EFI (Supermicro X10SLL-F)

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:27 PM

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you're just sort of dealing with owning that type of hardware...

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If it's a server it's probably meant for a lot of SAS drives. As far as booting from an nvme i think if the bios doesn't support it then it probably isn't gonna happen without weird hacks that involve booting off another device

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Which then defeats the entire point...

twin dew Jul 5, 2025, 8:28 PM

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swift oxide Is there another boot loader with NVMe support for systems that don't have PCIe ...

Probably not.
But there seem to be BIOS/UIEFI mod available for Supermicro X10 boards that enables NVMe boot.

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:29 PM

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Yeah a modded bios or something but now you're getting into hacky territory

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Those machines are just... different to deal with lol

elfin niche Jul 5, 2025, 8:29 PM

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unbelieavable, the game doesn't want to run on my i5 3320m, i'm bamboozled jacelul

swift oxide Jul 5, 2025, 8:30 PM

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Yeah i've seen some hacked BIOS around with NVMe support, but i don't trust them too much honestly

twin dew Jul 5, 2025, 8:30 PM

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elfin niche unbelieavable, the game doesn't want to run on my i5 3320m, i'm bamboozled<:jace...

#1038092680493801533
This is off-topic.

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:30 PM

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I mean really if you want a bunch of storage and I had to guess... like I said you;; be buying some SAS drives

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unless the server was never used for any storage really in which case it might not support many drives... usually they'll support a bunch though

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im shopping used servers that have anywhere from 8 to 24 SAS drives installed

swift oxide Jul 5, 2025, 8:32 PM

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I mean, is not like is the end of the world, i can just buy an HBA for the hard disks and use the on-board SATA controller for the OS drives, but i'd rather go the cheapest option, which for me is NVMe at the moment

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:32 PM

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For my personal NAS just having 1:1 redudancy isn't going to cut it, I want to have hot spares that can rock and roll with a couple of clicks

swift oxide Jul 5, 2025, 8:32 PM

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AS context, i have 5 HDDs that i have to plug in, the on board SATA controller only has 6 SATA ports

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:33 PM

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Not surprising

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I wouldn't have been surprised if you said 4 lol

swift oxide Jul 5, 2025, 8:33 PM

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And honestly i don't really trust running important servers with just a single OS drive

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:34 PM

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well not unless you want to maybe reinstall the OS at some point

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Everything I have on mine will be some level of RAID

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Likely a combination of Raid 10 and 5 arrays

elfin niche Jul 5, 2025, 8:35 PM

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twin dew <#1038092680493801533> This is off-topic.

I am not seeking help, this was irony

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:36 PM

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if i need some fast disk access for some kind of disk caching or something I can carve out a multi drive 0 😄

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You'd be surprised how fast a few sriped 10k SAS drives are...

swift oxide Jul 5, 2025, 8:38 PM

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And also noisy and hot

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:38 PM

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like one has a 2GB buffer hardware raid controller rated up to 12Gbps

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Could you hit that... probably with enough drives I guess lol

twin dew Jul 5, 2025, 8:39 PM

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And if it doesn't also have battery backup, then using that in that RAID mode with buffer active is dangerous for data integrity.
Or UPS that will do controlled shutdown for the system as needed.

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:40 PM

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It has a battery on board for one...

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Just like my old PowerEdge, it can clear it's own buffer in a power outage

twin dew Jul 5, 2025, 8:40 PM

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Reason why I flashed mine to IT-mode.

twin dew Jul 5, 2025, 8:40 PM

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charred relic It has a battery on board for one...

Yeah, lot of buyers just skipped that battery, as it cost significant amount extra.

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:40 PM

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It can't write it then, but it can write it later

twin dew Jul 5, 2025, 8:41 PM

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Or the battery went bad before being put on used market.

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:41 PM

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Well people seriously running RAID need to know what they're getting into lol

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Those servers aren't really for the common man though anyhow...

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regardless of what disk tech they have heh

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I'll have to break out a VGA cable if I even want to put a head on mine, but I probably never will.

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In fact I have a 24" monitor with a VGA input I won't throw away unless it doies just in case I do need it...

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Well and I have a 19" CRT that probably still functions heh

gentle osprey Jul 5, 2025, 8:45 PM

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anyone help everytime i press right click my mouse keeps canceling and pressing

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what should i do?

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:46 PM

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have you tried... rebooting 😄

gentle osprey Jul 5, 2025, 8:46 PM

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how

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:46 PM

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my mom drive sme nuts with pc tech support because her answer is always no and im like 'what have i told you 5000 times, try rebooting first'

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then she reboots, problem solved...

gentle osprey Jul 5, 2025, 8:47 PM

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do you mean restart?

twin dew Jul 5, 2025, 8:47 PM

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gentle osprey anyone help everytime i press right click my mouse keeps canceling and pressing

As in keeps repeating input randomly while being pressed down?
Microswitch gone bad from usage and would need replacement.
So for most people mouse replacement.

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If just rebooting the computer doesn't help as asked for.

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:47 PM

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if it's pressing then releasing it's probably a bad switch like he said

gentle osprey Jul 5, 2025, 8:47 PM

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ok ty

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:47 PM

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it could be some weird software thing... but most likely thing is switch

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try another mouse if it does the same thing you'll know heh

gentle osprey Jul 5, 2025, 8:48 PM

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i am going to try to reboot

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:48 PM

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Yeah reboots are easy and free... and do indeed sometimes resolve some weird thing that's happening

gentle osprey Jul 5, 2025, 8:49 PM

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rip 300$ mouse

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its the mouse thats bads

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:50 PM

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like i said try another mouse... if it does the same thing you know it's in software

gentle osprey Jul 5, 2025, 8:50 PM

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i tryed its normal so its the mouse

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:50 PM

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welp there ya go

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i never have good luck with mice lasting which is why i don't spend much money on them now

twin dew Jul 5, 2025, 8:50 PM

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How old?
In some cases even very expensive mice can use crap longevity switches that go bad in few years.

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:50 PM

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keyboard i'll spend a few bones on

twin dew Jul 5, 2025, 8:51 PM

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They can be replaced, but that needs opening the mice, and soldering.

gentle osprey Jul 5, 2025, 8:51 PM

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5 years old

twin dew Jul 5, 2025, 8:51 PM

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And getting new suitable switches can sometimes be pain.

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:51 PM

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if i pay 300 for a mouse i'm gonna have to already know i can source switches lol

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so i can fix the damn thing if it dies... that's too damn much for a mouse

gentle osprey Jul 5, 2025, 8:52 PM

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i know

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i was a little kid when i spent all my money on it

twin dew Jul 5, 2025, 8:52 PM

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charred relic if i pay 300 for a mouse i'm gonna have to already know i can source switches lo...

Physically same switches are often easy to get, but often only the lowest click life tier is readily available, outside of places like Ebay etc.

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:52 PM

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don't feel bad when i was younger i spent 200 dollars in way back dollars on an mp3 player that would hold like 2 songs at decent quality lol

gentle osprey Jul 5, 2025, 8:52 PM

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wait

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i think i fixed it

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:53 PM

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I was one of the... foolish early adopters lol

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get in car, plug mp3 player in, pick which of the two songs i'd like to hear

gentle osprey Jul 5, 2025, 8:54 PM

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i saw that it was a broken so i taped the thing and it worked

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:55 PM

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i have a redragon mouse right now 😮

twin dew Jul 5, 2025, 8:56 PM

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So some kind of plastic shell damage?
The actual microswitches are way inside and look usually something like this:

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:56 PM

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My mouse is basic... my keyboard is quite nice though

twin dew Jul 5, 2025, 8:56 PM

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Where that small white thing is the actual "button"

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:56 PM

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i used to do GH hardware mods for people

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the guitars after GH3 felt like shit on the strum bar because of the switch, it wasn't clicky like the old ones

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i'd replace that switch tto make them feel like the GH3 guitars

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Very similar little microswitch

gentle osprey Jul 5, 2025, 8:58 PM

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i have a green airow not a white line

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 8:59 PM

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I kinda miss GH... wish they hadn't run it into the ground

gentle osprey Jul 5, 2025, 9:03 PM

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BRUH I REALLY REGRET BUYING A MORE EXPENCIVE KEYBOARD AND MOUSE THAN THE WHOLE PC

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 9:04 PM

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well no shit

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spending anymore than 100 on peripherals is pure stupid

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i can make an exception for headphones at times but everything else 100 MAX

gentle osprey Jul 5, 2025, 9:06 PM

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ya i am stupid

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charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 9:34 PM

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i can make an exception for... headphones, microphones and keyboards...

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or specialty game controllers

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like for flight simming you can't even get a decent starter setup for much less than 2 bills

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hell if i could afford it my sim cockpit would be worth more than my PC..

maiden coyote Jul 5, 2025, 10:13 PM

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pure karma spending anymore than 100 on peripherals is pure stupid

Some people like their nice keyboards..

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:29 PM

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depends on the quality of the item

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:31 PM

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My keyboard was aboutg 150 USD

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like 154..155 something like that

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:32 PM

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i do have to say that my $100 hexgears keyboard is way better than my dogshit $100 Logi MX Keys that lasted barely a year before 2 keys snapped off

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:32 PM

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Would I buy this keyboard again having use it for months now... 100% yes

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:33 PM

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some stuff is worth the cost, other stuff is just overpriced garbage

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:33 PM

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In fact I'll probably swap the switches in this one out to tweak it that one last step heh

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I'm going with the lightest force switches... as soon as they have them in stock again anywhere...

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:33 PM

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i'm tempted to do some of the mechanical keyboard softening/insulation stuff

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:34 PM

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Well they technically have the smaller packs but I'd need 3 to do the whole keyboard and have some spares... more expensive that way

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This one has a fair bit of damping stuff built in apparently

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You can upgrade it a bit tho

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:35 PM

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i have a suspicion about the next big thing added into keyboards

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:35 PM

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These are overall my favorite switches ever. Really my favorite keyboard overall. I'll still always have a thing for typing on buckling spring switches though.

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Shit for gaming, great for typing heh

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:36 PM

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VR tracking/tactile sensitivity on the keys that you can see while in-world

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:36 PM

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we probably aren't that far away from feeling it too tbh

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with gloves of some kind

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Right now though VR is still just kinda... I dunno stagnant

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But this is also the only time it's actually stuck at all

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:37 PM

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yea, i have a CV1 and i have 0 interest in upgrading

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:37 PM

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and it's been tried over and over and over

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And every time I hoped it would finally catch on but the problem was hardware, we have that now

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Good stuff is still just a bit pricey... like you can spend a grand on a pc and easily enother grand on the vr crap

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that corners some folks like me out of a full blown rig

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I could afford it, but I'm not willing to spend that much ya know

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:39 PM

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maybe having the visor being fully see through as an option would be neat, like full FoV pixels, and then have a tracker for your keyboard/mouse where the software's fast enough to keep those pixels transparent and you can see where they are

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:39 PM

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not on that particilar thing anyhow... not yet

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There is actually some neat VR stuff now though... and like I said it's sticking around which is a good sign

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:39 PM

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it definitely has a lot of utility

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:40 PM

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even my old occulus 2 is entertaining

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stuff like vader and beat saber... there is this one tablebop game where you are actually picking up dice and moving peices like youare in the room

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can't remember the name of that one...

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:40 PM

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i do wish that more games would start incorporating VR as an option

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:40 PM

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Oh and pinball is awesome in br

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Minecraft is neat... def interesting at the very least...

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But what I really really want is higher end stuff with a good solid video card to VR flight sim

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I've tested the waters and it is amazeballs heh

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:41 PM

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it does suck that there's no easy way to go from keyboard to wands

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:41 PM

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YES

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that drives me nuts setting stuff up when you have to go between pc and headset

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it's like headset on, off, on, off, where's the wands, shit i can't find the right one, off on off on lol

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like holy shit im tooi tired to play now lol

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Oh I haven't tried it personally yet but I guess driving games are dope AF in VR too

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:44 PM

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yea i've heard that too

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i can't get used to not being able to see peripherals besides the wands

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and even then it's annoying to not remember a specific button name and not be able to just look down and verify

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:52 PM

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I should get my occulus 2 out and mess with it again

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old tech, still entertaining

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err i guess it's "quest 2"

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A friend of mine upgraded and sold me his 2's on the cheap

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:53 PM

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lol same

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got a CV1, 3 sensors, and an xbox wireless controller with the big fat adapter for $250 in 2020

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oh and a 4m usb 3.0 active cable

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:56 PM

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I gotta say when im playing something like golf or whatever and wander out of the boundry

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that snap back into reality is... odd

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:56 PM

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oh i have 0 interest in VR golf 🤣

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i can't do it irl

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:56 PM

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Like oh yeah im standing int he middle of my garage with the door open flailing around like a weirdo

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I bet people would drive past here like 'wtf is wrong with that dude'

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:57 PM

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i did pop out the nosepiece on mine so i can at least see a little bit down

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:57 PM

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over here playing beat saber

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My glasses are an issue with mine

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my old ones were's quite as wide and fit better... they sell an adapter i need to get it

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:58 PM

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charred relic over here playing beat saber

have a projector set up so people can see what you're seeing

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:58 PM

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i've been looking at projectors for outside stuff

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:58 PM

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got a big white wall?

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:58 PM

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no but i can buy a big white screen

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JKust have it drop down where the garage door is heh

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 10:59 PM

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if my neighbors house wasn't so close we could probably use my wall for it

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hunt down some old stadium seating to throw in the yard

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 10:59 PM

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The garage door is white but not flat... might look ok but i'd just get a screen

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closed theaters are a good place to get sound treatment sometimes

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one time i got a bunch of the curtains for free, they were just throwing it away

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too bad the screens are too big to install at home lol

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:01 PM

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one of our theaters shut down years ago, and we grabbed some of the old side panels from the seats with the logo on it

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 11:01 PM

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but you might find seats that way

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Businesses, some of them, throw away so much stuff

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:01 PM

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oh yea

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 11:01 PM

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especially IT... good lord the stories my buddy tells

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like he's snaggedm e all kinds of perfectly good but used goodies

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like a rack, a rack ups...

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:02 PM

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there's a place on the west end of our intl airport where a lot of that is stored

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 11:02 PM

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a cisco POE switch

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enterprise grade shit

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:02 PM

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it's comparable to new big box store stuff, but with it being commercial & not that old, it can be worth it

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 11:03 PM

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unfortunately no servers... but networking hardware he can get me

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:03 PM

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i'm a sucker for adapters

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 11:04 PM

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maiden coyote Some people like their nice keyboards..

mechanical keyboards are for lunatics

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:04 PM

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🤣

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 11:05 PM

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spending 10x the price for the same experience with only better sounds is beyond me

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 11:05 PM

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When HD was fairly new I had a guy tell me that HD was a scam

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They just wanna sell you a new TV...

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 11:05 PM

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Like brother how do people spend 1000$ on a keyboard and be like yea its good

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 11:05 PM

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Never mind the fact I'd already experience 1080 content... def wasnt' a scam lol

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:06 PM

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pure karma spending 10x the price for the same experience with only better sounds is beyond...

mine's the only one i could find that was wireless, backlit, and has a decent sized wrist rest. all the other wireless scissor switch keyboards were garbage and still not cheap

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 11:06 PM

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I got a Keychron K4 HE...it's sexy

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 11:06 PM

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My keyboard is an off the shelf scoria that was 60 bucks cad

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:07 PM

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yea, mine was $100. and so far it's the best keyboard i've ever owned

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idc so much that it's mechanical

night girder Jul 5, 2025, 11:07 PM

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languid gulch yea, mine was $100. and so far it's the best keyboard i've ever owned

which one?

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:07 PM

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i do like that if a key switch dies i can just replace it instead of the entire goddamn keyboard

night girder Jul 5, 2025, 11:07 PM

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hot swap yeah

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:08 PM

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night girder which one?

hexgears X5

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 11:08 PM

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A new Model M is more expensive than this keyboard... and I'd like to buy one at some point 😄

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:08 PM

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pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 11:08 PM

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languid gulch i do like that if a key switch dies i can just replace it instead of the entire ...

yea that is a nice quality of life but like at the same time unless one of the keys goes off balance beyond usable a keyboard practically nerver fails

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:08 PM

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yup

night girder Jul 5, 2025, 11:08 PM

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languid gulch

never heard of it

charred relic Jul 5, 2025, 11:08 PM

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I'm a sucker for the classics... and nothing feels like buckling spring so there';s also that...

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:09 PM

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but all of my cheap keyboards have a single key that fails and wrecks the entire thing

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:09 PM

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night girder never heard of it

hexgears.com/products/wireless-mechanical-keyboard-powerblade-x5-pro

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oh and the wrist rest is spring clip attached

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not magnets or just sits next to it

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so it's great for using it on the couch or laying down too 🤣

night girder Jul 5, 2025, 11:11 PM

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I might get a 75% for gaming. Not sure which one.

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:12 PM

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my muscle memory on 100% won't let me use one of those 🤣

night girder Jul 5, 2025, 11:12 PM

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Yeah, I am not sure yet about it.

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The K70 corsair is holding up... more or less 🤣

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 11:13 PM

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i dont know what to think of my keyboard

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because its sounds mechanical even if it isent lol

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:15 PM

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i don't mind anyone's preferences

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i'm just glad i found one that i hope i can use for a really long time

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i do wish i could get some kind of core charge or mass credit for all the keyboards i've tried for the last like 20 years

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 11:18 PM

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ok well first of all i just came to the realisation that i nerver use my pinky on a keyboard which i had nerver noticed before even tho i type every day

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second of all am i tweaking or does this gives off mechanical vibes

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:19 PM

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clean the fucking doritos out from underneath it

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 11:19 PM

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its too hard

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my other one has yogurt on the pcb it could be worst

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:19 PM

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ew

night girder Jul 5, 2025, 11:19 PM

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jace_scared

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:19 PM

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"yogurt" 🤣

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 11:19 PM

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the numberpad on my secondary one is filled with probably moldy yogurt by now

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:20 PM

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that's also why i love this thing, just popping off the keycaps and cleaning it

night girder Jul 5, 2025, 11:21 PM

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that's why I want 75%, less keys to clean hehe

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smaller surface, less dirt. And I want switches that are more silent.

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:23 PM

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i must be old, i still like my numpad

night girder Jul 5, 2025, 11:23 PM

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I never use it 😄

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 11:23 PM

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i love numpads even if i dont use them

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:23 PM

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i use it just enough that i'd notice it if it wasn't there

night girder Jul 5, 2025, 11:23 PM

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lucky me I guess 😄

pure karma Jul 5, 2025, 11:24 PM

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in a dream world they would be configurable ot open various apps but thats just too good to be true

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:24 PM

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also being able to rekey them in some games to do different stuff from the number row is great

night girder Jul 5, 2025, 11:25 PM

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maybe, never do that either, it's too far away from my left hand.

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and my right hand stays on the mouse

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:25 PM

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some games are dumb (or smart i guess) and will recognize if your keyboard doesn't have the numpad

night girder Jul 5, 2025, 11:25 PM

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I can see it work but you have to be used to it I guess

night girder Jul 5, 2025, 11:26 PM

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languid gulch some games are dumb (or smart i guess) and will recognize if your keyboard doesn...

Well fuck those games then haha 🤣

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I will still keep this keyboard anyway. So not a problem.

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:26 PM

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sometimes i'll hotkey the numpad options onto my side buttons, and i'm afraid that switching to a TKL will yank that as an option

night girder Jul 5, 2025, 11:27 PM

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I got this keyboard for about ten years now. And I barely use it (the keypad). I just learned that alt + 7 on the keypad gives you "•"

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but besides that 🤣

night girder Jul 5, 2025, 11:28 PM

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languid gulch sometimes i'll hotkey the numpad options onto my side buttons, and i'm afraid th...

mhm, I wonder.

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I don't think it matters. The mapping for the buttons is done by software anyway.

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:28 PM

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i'd assume not, but also there's plenty of dumb shit out there that devs do

night girder Jul 5, 2025, 11:29 PM

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easy way to test it. Unplug keyboard and see if side buttons are still mapped to numpad and they work.

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:29 PM

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oh yea good point

night girder Jul 5, 2025, 11:29 PM

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languid gulch i'd assume not, but also there's plenty of dumb shit out there that devs do

That is true.

languid gulch Jul 5, 2025, 11:30 PM

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would feel weird to unplug the keyboard 🤣

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good idea tho

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 12:29 AM

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lol "its yogurt" is a new one for me.. and i've heard a lot o.O

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coughthroatyogurtcough

maiden coyote Jul 6, 2025, 12:42 AM

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pure karma mechanical keyboards are for lunatics

People like what they like.. mines mechanical and has.. cherry reds or something... lol I think I paid $160 for it

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I figure the keyboard, mouse, and mointor is how you interact with your pc, so why not have something you like.

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Technically my keyboard is how I interact with.. 4 physical pc's and about 20 virtual ones

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Unless pi's are counted too

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 12:46 AM

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I intereact directly via telepathy

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starts levitating shit with his mind

thin trout Jul 6, 2025, 1:07 AM

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i think it's wild that some people use computers for 100k hours with trash peripherals

pure karma Jul 6, 2025, 1:07 AM

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literally office workers

thin trout Jul 6, 2025, 1:08 AM

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can get such massive improvement for $50-200 which is not a relevant amount of money on that timescale

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like $100 kb for 100,000 hours costs 1 cent per 10 hours of usage

pure karma Jul 6, 2025, 1:35 AM

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you do realise that 100,000 hours is 12 years straight of usage right

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no peripherals last that long

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thats 36 years of wear assuming 8 hour days

thin trout Jul 6, 2025, 1:37 AM

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Yes i do, and yes they do. I've never had a cherry switch fail on me

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my board from 2011 is still being used every day

pure karma Jul 6, 2025, 1:37 AM

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you are delusional

pure karma Jul 6, 2025, 1:38 AM

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thin trout my board from 2011 is still being used every day

thats not straight disappointed_snutt

safe trench Jul 6, 2025, 2:50 AM

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pure karma my other one has yogurt on the pcb it could be worst

gurt: yo

feral drift Jul 6, 2025, 3:55 AM

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I guess my keyboards would last much longer..

If I wasn't such a failure to snack/eat and drink at my PC.. Thats the mainly reason I gotta switch peripherals every 2 year or so :D

languid gulch Jul 6, 2025, 4:07 AM

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i've mostly switched to non-crumbly stuff around my keyboard

bleak token Jul 6, 2025, 5:03 AM

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I am trying to start a dedicated server for 1.1 via pterodactyl and can’t join the server, is anyone using pterodactyl to host a dedicated server able to assist me

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 5:26 AM

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i try to keep stuff like that away... and I air duster it out a couple of times a day

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Eventually I'll pop all the keys and give it a good cleaning in there... as needed

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One thing I hate the most with a keyboard is pressing a key and it not going down because a cocoa pebble got in there or some shit

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Or even worse it crrrrunches it and you can hear it... and feel it.. ugh

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Im addicted to cocoa krispies... and they are quite crunchy :/

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 6:20 AM

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So I gotta watch this... apparently this guy created a 160 core RISC-V supercluser on a M2 stick

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 6:54 AM

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man he put a LOT of effort into that heh

gentle osprey Jul 6, 2025, 6:57 AM

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what mouse should i get i dont care about the price

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 6:58 AM

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Mice I dunno really

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 6:58 AM

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One that has nice form for your hand.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 6:58 AM

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Keyboards I'm def a Keychron fan now but mice I just buy whatever looks like it has the buttons I want and seems decent

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I have bad lukc with mice buttons not lasting long anyhows

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 6:59 AM

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And as that is the first thing, need to have some mouse as base to recommend ofters with same kind of shape & size.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 6:59 AM

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yeah shape and button number/configuration is what im mostly look for

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as long as t's not some shit brand I'll try it

gentle osprey Jul 6, 2025, 7:00 AM

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what brand should i get

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:00 AM

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My hand is super super used to the redragon mmo mouse now, Im used to it now and i've always liked how it felt

gentle osprey Jul 6, 2025, 7:05 AM

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this is my mouse now but the switchs are broken

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should i get this Razer Viper V3 HyperSpeed

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it 70$

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:14 AM

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Razer Synapse is basically mandatory for any Razer mice, and needs login, and at least had significant spyware features AFAIK.

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And Razer has traditionally used microswitches that go bad in few years to cut costs.

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Otherwise usually very good.

languid gulch Jul 6, 2025, 7:14 AM

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i can't make the call like that for anyone, peripherals are way too personal 🤣

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specs are one thing, the feel of it is something else

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:15 AM

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I personally used razer deathadders before that login got mandatory.
But needed to do switch swaps on all of them at some point.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:19 AM

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redragon has been decent.. def not "premium" stuff but I've had good results personally

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:21 AM

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They changed from tech-company to lifestyle and user data company.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:27 AM

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I know this, I might never buy a HyperX product again. I have a keyboard from them and it is the worst keyboard I've ever owned

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:28 AM

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charred relic I know this, I might never buy a HyperX product again. I have a keyboard from t...

Anything after the brand was bough by HP from Kingston is suspect.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:28 AM

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you start typing sometimes then all the sudden it just repeats the last character pressed nonstop and the only way to stop it is unplug it and plug it back in

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I almost lit erally threw it out the window once

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:28 AM

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The older Kingston time HyperX keyboards I have are at least fine.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:28 AM

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I'm playing world of tanks creeping up to use a rock for cover

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next second im just going forward and can'st op and have to wait on the keyboard to reconnect ugh

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:29 AM

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Or the one you got might be faulty and not representative of the actual model.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:29 AM

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I almost yeeted it at the wall, but didn't want to have to fix the wall. Then I almost yeeted it out the window

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then got a grip and just tossed it on the floor across the room lol

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:30 AM

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I got two of the original model Kingston HyperX Alloy Elite non-RGBs.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:30 AM

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i literally used a super el chaper walmart special rubber dome switch keyboard until a new one from amazon came haha

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it was a better experience!

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:30 AM

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From around 2018 or so, release was in 2017 for that model.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:31 AM

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I got mine in... probably 2019-2020

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hard to remember really

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:32 AM

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Got through the paint on main keyboards spacebar finally.
Need to actually install the doubleshot PBT keycaps I have bought.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:32 AM

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"View order detailsOrdered on August 31, 2019"

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thanks amazooon

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60 bucks...

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Paid well over twice that for this one but it's actually nice

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heh looking over this history is kinda interesting... looking at all the shit i ordered in 2019-2020

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"Western Digital 1TB WD Blue SN550 NVMe Internal SSD" that's an external USB 3 drive now

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that i don't even still own lol

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"Amazon Brand - Presto! 2-Ply Ultra-Soft Toilet Paper, 24 Family Mega Rolls = 120 regular rolls, 6 Count (Pack of 4), Unscented" during covid I was sniping toiler paper that popped up at a normal price and was decent quality at like 3AM lol

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sigh... that whole thing was so silly there wasn't actually a shortage

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people just freaked out and bought it all...

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I hope people that gut stuck with a garage full of it feel the full shame heh

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I mean I didn't wanna run out but people were freaking and it's like guys

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more than one way to wipe yer arse... you'll manage

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like cmon suck it up buttercup

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As Dwight said... don't even get me started on how coddled the modern anus is

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I haven't been cut into pieces... just poked... alot... in many places

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Often with interesting and strage destinations 😄

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Like going through my abdomen, through my liver and out into my intestines... that was fun to watch

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(no joke)

feral drift Jul 6, 2025, 7:46 AM

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Don't think I'd be able to recommend any mice to anyone..

Its very very much debatable, as I don't think Shaq would them mouse that you use for laptops ect :)

And do you want the MMORPG version with the 12 button side option.. and so and so fourth.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:46 AM

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I'm like 'whoa that's cool' and he's like oh sorry i didn't know you could see the screen and was gonna move it and im like no don't

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I have the 12 side buttons

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I find use for them for a few things

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I don't even play MMO's but they are super useful for macros and things in various apps... like I have a bunhc of shortcuts in my DAW mapped to them

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And stuff for toggling/changing patches/vsts etc

feral drift Jul 6, 2025, 7:49 AM

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Personally I'm super happy with my Logitech G903, with that Powerplay mousepad - wireless mouse, without needing to plug in a charger which usually just sits in the mouse permanently if it was required..

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:49 AM

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I have a footcontgrol for some stuff but it's often more convenient on mnouse if I already have ahold of it for something anyhow

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:49 AM

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Razer used to be fine for most part, outside the use of low longevity switches.
But then they went mad.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:49 AM

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A lot of people seem to like those logitechs

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I'd assume they must be pretty good

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I seem to recall they were a bit pricey but whatever

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:50 AM

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charred relic I'd assume they must be pretty good

Only real downside to Logitech is again their use of lower cost low-longevity switches.

feral drift Jul 6, 2025, 7:50 AM

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Razer used to be GOAT for gaming peripherals, but as Baldur had mentioned.. The need for that bloatware razer software, which caused more problems than it solved was enough for me to throw the mouse into the bin for good

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:51 AM

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I shouldn't need to log into anything to use a mouse

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Having to do so is so incredibly silly

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If things were like they used to be I wouldn't run Windows either... but that's not currently an option.

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I spent years with 0 windows machines

feral drift Jul 6, 2025, 7:52 AM

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twin dew Only real downside to Logitech is again their use of lower cost low-longevity sw...

Yeah that part I'm not happy with honestly..

I bought a couple of G502 that was put 75% down from the local hardware store as backup - as the switch is the same on the G903 mouse..

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:53 AM

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feral drift Yeah that part I'm not happy with honestly.. I bought a couple of G502 that was...

Could be switched to any other switch with same case size and connections.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:53 AM

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I wouldn't be against replacing switches if I really really liked the mouse

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I haven't found one I like that much yet

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:54 AM

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Feel of the buttons would change depending on exact model.
But usually there is also longer longevity variant of the same exact switch available.

feral drift Jul 6, 2025, 7:54 AM

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twin dew Could be switched to any other switch with same case size and connections.

Most likely could - I do not have the technical insight to know that really..

Think I came to my conclusion after reviewing some forum post somewhere, with a nice picture guide how to replace it :D

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:54 AM

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depending on where you source parts it's very much a you get what you pay for thing

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:54 AM

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For example Omron switches are available at least in in 1M, 5M, 10M, 20M and 50M click variants.
And way too often mice use the 1M click variant (when no click rating in the model markings)

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:55 AM

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like there might be 4 different brands at differnet price points and the more expensive one is probably worht it

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:55 AM

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And also often use too low current so the contacts don't self-clean.

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To "save" on power.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:55 AM

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Plus with parts like that you are talking about pennies usually

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I dunno why I say penny when no such thing ever existed here :/

feral drift Jul 6, 2025, 7:56 AM

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I did read about Optical switches being introduced as a more common switch type.

Guess its a better option, as you probably can just 3D print the "switch mechanic" if it breaks

gentle osprey Jul 6, 2025, 7:56 AM

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twin dew Razer used to be fine for most part, outside the use of low longevity switches. ...

so what brand should i get?

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:57 AM

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Maxeek bascially if it's electrically compatible and will fit... it'll work heh

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:57 AM

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Basically microswitches have minimum current spec, on how much current there should be over the switch when it is clicked, so the contact surfaces clean themselves from oxidation.
Depends on switch and the contact plating material the specific subvariant is using.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:57 AM

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like as long as the outside part is making propercontact, and it fits... if it's tghe right part or not doens't matter much... as long as the end result is ok

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:57 AM

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gentle osprey so what brand should i get?

That question is impossible to answer.

gentle osprey Jul 6, 2025, 7:57 AM

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why

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 7:58 AM

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Sometimes with small parts I don't have an exact part number I just know the connectivity and dimensions and just have to find what will work for me

feral drift Jul 6, 2025, 7:58 AM

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There is too many variables of options in regards of brands

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:58 AM

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Because there isn't any single or few manufacturers that should be recommended.
As that is one of the last things in choosing a mouse.

gentle osprey Jul 6, 2025, 7:58 AM

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what mouse do you have

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 7:59 AM

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And for example that short microswitch life is hard pass for some, and for some it just means they get replacement switches and change when needed etc.

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Currently using BenQ Zowie EC1-C:s
Because of the base shape lineage with good sensor.
But that shape isn't the one you want.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 8:00 AM

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My problem with switch replacement is there are 1000 other things I'd rather do on the bench than replace mouse switches heh

gentle osprey Jul 6, 2025, 8:00 AM

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i want a good mouse for gaming and i want it to last long

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 8:01 AM

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I have 3 boards out there I need to paint and label enclosures for as it is

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 8:01 AM

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Philips Fidelio X2HR original model with older version analog ModMic.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 8:01 AM

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And the International House of Overdrive sounds amazing 😄

feral drift Jul 6, 2025, 8:01 AM

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Well if they were still in production - Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 was probably the best mouse I've had to day :D

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 8:01 AM

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intellimouse!

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lol haha oh lordy

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haven't heard that menioned in forever

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 8:02 AM

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gentle osprey i want a good mouse for gaming and i want it to last long

And neither matters if the specific mouse doesn't fit your hand and be usable with the grip you use.
And doesn't allow setting suitable hardware CPI to match how much you want to move it for specific amount of cursor movement.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 8:03 AM

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I bet somebody sells mmo gamer gloves don't they

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for your mouse hand... for grip and etc... surely...right?

feral drift Jul 6, 2025, 8:03 AM

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Personal experience.. Stay away from mouses that has these weight block options.. Its in my opinion obsolete and totally unnecessary and a gimick at best

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 8:03 AM

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or not somebody needs to get ont hat ASAP, thank me later.

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 8:03 AM

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And when there are three common mouse grips, peoples hands are different sizes, and how much we are accustomed to move the mouse has wide variance between the extreme ends...

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 8:04 AM

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I already feel like enough of a dork without a special MMO glove

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 8:04 AM

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Where for the last one it can be between 20+ cm for going across the screen to 1cm for going across the screen.

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Or for 180/360 degree turn around in game.

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And for Windows desktop it also depends on the exact resolution used etc.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 8:05 AM

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I hasv the ype of freiends that would ROAST me if they caught me wearing an MMO glove lol

languid gulch Jul 6, 2025, 8:05 AM

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god i wish games had the GTA:SA rear camera button

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 8:05 AM

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And I wouldn't even be mad... because I'd wanna roast me too :/

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 8:09 AM

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And once you know the shape and size of the mouse shell you want, and what CPI you need, then it goes into the different sensors being used too.
If you want "perfect" sensor, or if some acceleration effects can be allowed etc.

languid gulch Jul 6, 2025, 8:09 AM

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i want my current mouse, but with the logitech infiniscroll capability

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 8:09 AM

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But basic first step is finding that right shape and size.
And then looking what else is available in close enough to same shell shape.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 8:09 AM

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I hate switching mice and having to tweak all that shit again

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I'm picky about a few things in life... like mouse sensitivity/speed... and guitar picks

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I'm pretty fussy with guitar picks lol

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my neighr can pick up a rock off the ground and use it and no biggie... im like -cringe-

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Deep click...

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two two activation points?

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Guessing...

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 8:11 AM

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Which is why I have been on that same Intellimouse 3.0 shape since used that, switching from that to two generations of Razer DeathAdders and then to BenQ EC1:s where I had to switch away from first ones I had to -C:s because of the high frequency noise the sensor in the first ones did in some situations.
Mine were "post"fix, but still had the issue.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 8:12 AM

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shape changes feel a LOT

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the same exact settings on one mouse seem way different on another

languid gulch Jul 6, 2025, 8:12 AM

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dammit. $70 rn too

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oh no i was expecting it to be $250

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 8:13 AM

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I;m one of those types that gets real used to a certain feel and don't like straying from it

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I can tell if I have the .88 tortuga in my hand if I blindly grab a pick... because I have others for specific things like some metal ones and other plastic types

languid gulch Jul 6, 2025, 8:13 AM

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might put that on my xmas list

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 8:13 AM

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I kow how THAT pick feels... very intimately

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I know how it moves in my fingers... it almost becomes an extension of te body. It's the same type of thing with a mouse for me

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 8:15 AM

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charred relic I know how it moves in my fingers... it almost becomes an extension of te body. ...

And that is why finding that right mouse shell shape and size is so important.
Over anything else.

languid gulch Jul 6, 2025, 8:15 AM

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yup, added to my wishlist 🤣

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 8:16 AM

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Even goes to mouse wheels and the resistance, notched or not, etc.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 8:16 AM

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I had one razer, it was fine I guess. I had my usual issue with the left button but that's just been my life

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I can't blame that on razer those things have given me grief forever

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It was ummm i dn't remember it was very basic

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couple of side buttons... just a basic mouse but it worked fine

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It was on sale... and i had an amzon gift card... so tried it

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I noticed these big widescreen monitors get a bit warm

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when i get close to the screen i can feel it heh

languid gulch Jul 6, 2025, 8:19 AM

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i must be getting old, i have 0 interest in RGB

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 8:19 AM

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And since it's curved I'm sure it's kinda directing it right at me heh

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I sometimes turn on my led's in my pc... but they're more often off

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i just find all the lightd distracting

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I need a motuion sensor so they come on when nobody is around then when i come in i get to see how pretty it looks then it just goes dark on it's own lol

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I bet I can make that happen... hmmmm

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Another project I'd rather work on that replacing mouse switches... a 60's era pickup im gonna pop in the jackson lol

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*strat pickup

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They really don't make them like they used to 😉

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got a dimebucker to install too

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My neighbor decided he needed to thinn out his pickups and just hands me a few hundred worth of hardware heh

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I tech for him sometimes if he's doing a show out of town

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kinda fun getting back out in the club music scene but now ay I could do that grind now

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not club music... club music scene

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this is all rock/metal lol

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Get in the pit

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What I wanna know is... does Rick Harrison secrely smoke cigarettes or something? Because he has the worse smokers laugh for somebody that doens't smoke if he doesn't heh

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When he laughs it sounds like sombody that has spend a few decades smoking 2 packs a day

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Cigareetes are bad mmmkay

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Who woulda thunk that inhaling smoke would be unhealthy SHRUG

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Also nitotine on it's own isn't all that addictive

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in tobacco there are natural MAIO's that studies show nehance the addictiveness

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tests of just nicotine alone showed low addition potential heh

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Caffeine and Nicotine are similar in effect... and even serve the same function in nature

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they are, literally, pesitices lol

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The insects can't handle the nicotine or caffeine, too small

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for us it just gives a bit of an energy boost lol

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I have family members that are total caffeine addicts lol

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They are drinking that stuff all day

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(coffee)

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Fortunately if you want to break that addiction it's really not all that hard

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the headaches are the worst part imo

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Sometimes I think my neices and nephes keep the localStarbucks in business...

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I'm like lol you just paid like 10 bucks for bean water

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i love the smell of freshly brewed coffee... just staight up coffee

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hate the taste of coffe though... cannot stand it

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For me to drhink a coffe it's more other stuff than coffee at that point heh

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One time a guy I know gave me a cup of coffe and was like here you look tired

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it was... super coffee heh

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dude had slipped a time release dexadrine in that shit (add meds)

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for normal people... speed... i drank it... for that reason alone hahaha

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i really was dead tired i'd been working 12+ a day

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Coffee is certainly popualr in this country... there are Starcks everywhere

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err starbucks

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I have sleep issues too :/

twin dew Jul 6, 2025, 8:48 AM

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melatonin
natural sleep hormone in pill form.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 8:48 AM

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of multiple types...

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I had medication to help with that though 🙂

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soaking in a hot bath helps me too... sometimes I fall alseep in the bath heh

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One time I fell asleep, realized it had been an hour, ran more hot water and went back to sleep for about 2 more hours haha

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For awhile I could not soak in the bath because of the tube I had going in me

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oh the horror!

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stupid tube...

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i have a video of it that freaks people out lol

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because when i breath you can see my skin sliding up and down over and and people are like 'that doesn't hurt" im like uhhh no i don't feel it at all

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Amazing how the boidy will just kind of heal around that and it's just not really that big of a deal

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I used to mess with my mom when i'd go over there

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i'd grab the end of the tube and hold it up to my mouth and go 'ya know i always kinda wordered what liver enzymes taste like '

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and start making slurping noises hahah

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I'm like " could...right now... just hav eto open this draincock..."

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And she's like STOP IT!

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my sister wasn't having it she was like 'ok champ do it, what does it tastes like'

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never

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i have specifically instructd my close friends that if i ever have a man bun

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have me committed involuntarily if you have to

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because my head has truly broken...

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not a look i like

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another look i really don't like is the sport coat over a tshirt

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ugh

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 8:59 AM

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charred relic for normal people... speed... i drank it... for that reason alone hahaha

So you knew it was in there when drinking it?

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 9:00 AM

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charred relic not a look i like

Taste changes btw.
I imagine older you desperately having to convince your friends that you actually do want a man bun now

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 9:00 AM

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dire igloo So you knew it was in there when drinking it?

It's the difference between taking drugs and being illegally poisoned

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 9:10 AM

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hahah this guy is a comedian

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the older me wanting a manbun...

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Yes I knew it was there, and I knew exactly what it was.

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I don't have shit friends.. they get cut out of my life.

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But yeah trust me this is alredy old me and older me is going to want even less man bun hahahaha

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I've already particiated in more than my share of silly fashion trends

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Like the rat tail... got I still feel shame over that one and that was decades ago

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never did the mullet... dodged that bullet

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"business in front, party in the back!"

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Which honestly sounds more like something my buddy tom would say hahah about a man

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hahaha

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Now he's a damn comedian, dude is a riot out at the club

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One of the very flamboyant types too

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And he knows I'm about as staight as they come but he still fucks with me haha

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one time we were at a gas station and he looks outside and is lik e'ohh chjeck that out' and im thinking he's pointing out a hot girl to me

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some dude was bending over picking up his gas cap and im like loooool you got me

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then im like so i dont really know is that actuallya nice once? heh

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he's like nah i just wanted to mess with you

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Is there some reason there was an uptick forBattlefront II that I missed or just some random thing that happened...

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Been popping up a lot lately I just never looked into it

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 9:38 AM

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twin dew melatonin natural sleep hormone in pill form.

You have issues with midnight sun? Heard it completely wrecks your sleeping pattern

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I like sleeping in complete dark but then have issues waking up so I bought an alarm with sun simulator

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:21 AM

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visual tree I like sleeping in complete dark but then have issues waking up so I bought an a...

Waking up for me is solved by multiple alarms.

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Sleeping is solved by total darkness. But we don't have a midnight sun. Only a midnight moon.

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:23 AM

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night girder Waking up for me is solved by multiple alarms.

Lol. I also have 2 alarms. Sun clock and phone but only so I can wake up in case one device breaks hehe

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:23 AM

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I want to buy a ball alarm that starts rolling around the room once it goes off.

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So you have to catch it to turn it off 🤣

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:26 AM

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night girder I want to buy a ball alarm that starts rolling around the room once it goes off.

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night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:26 AM

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Yeah, things like that 🙂

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:27 AM

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buddy of mine has the whole light issue thing

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it doesn't take much light at all in a room to keep him awake

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Like levels I wouldn't even notice unless I was trying to notice heh

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:28 AM

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Good thing I have window shutters

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:28 AM

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He put up good blackout curtains

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:28 AM

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visual tree Good thing I have window shutters

Yup. Curtains.

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:28 AM

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Also keeps the heat away during summer

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:28 AM

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I can sleep through cannon fire

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:29 AM

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Jealous jacelul

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:29 AM

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There is a reason greenhouses are made out of glass, it amplifies the sun so much.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:29 AM

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"oh another revolution started... k well wake me up when it's over"

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:29 AM

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Wish I could also fall asleep in 2 minutes

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:29 AM

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visual tree Wish I could also fall asleep in 2 minutes

Buy a bottle of whiskey.

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:30 AM

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A whole bottle will make me fall asleep for eternity lol

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:30 AM

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and and !

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within 2 minutes 😉

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You have insomnia?

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:31 AM

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night girder You have insomnia?

Something like that. Takes me 1 hour to fall asleep or less when I'm really tired

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:31 AM

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Penguinz posted about it 5 days ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPefEEA5slg

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charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:31 AM

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i have sleep issues from time to time but it's all mental shit

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Like I'm tired but my brain refuses to just shut the hell down

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so my brain is still going 100mph

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:33 AM

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Speaking of curtains, can't imagine living in Netherlands where people have no curtains 😅

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:33 AM

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pretty sure that's some kind of manic episode.. not sure never seen anybody about it

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:33 AM

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Privacy is a huge thing here since everyone is nosy

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:34 AM

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dont really want a shrink in my head, they might not like what they find 😉

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:35 AM

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visual tree Speaking of curtains, can't imagine living in Netherlands where people have no c...

wtf? Where did you hear that BS.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:36 AM

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hehe hahaha

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:36 AM

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night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:36 AM

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night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:36 AM

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First comment.

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In the footage shown in the first two minutes, while you're talking about how most windows will have no curtains or open curtains, virtually every window we can see has curtains and most of them are in fact shut.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:37 AM

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i'd end up arrested if i didn't have curtains... unless i changed my ways

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:37 AM

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Trust me, I visit every week. They have curtains as much as any country.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:38 AM

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If i wake up in the middle of a sleep and gop tot he kitchen for something to drink do you think im going to put pants on... riiiight

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:38 AM

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Guess I fell for the clickbait titles tired_jace

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:38 AM

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Or blinders and other solutions ofc 😄

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:38 AM

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too much work for a glass of water...

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:38 AM

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visual tree Guess I fell for the clickbait titles <:tired_jace:807645447258243072>

The thing the Netherland has over other countries.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:38 AM

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Barely any

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:38 AM

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Is good bicycle roads.

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They are so far a head.

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:39 AM

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Here, we keep building more roads for cars instead of promoting public transportation or using bikes....

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:39 AM

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i uhhh grilled a burger... and played video games

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:39 AM

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Stupid autocorrect evildoggo

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:39 AM

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and at one points said yaay happy birthday america

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that's about it...

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stuff like new years and 4th i gotta be in a mood to actually care to do anything heh

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i don't even do anything form my birthday these days really

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:41 AM

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Here, we don't take independence day seriously. It's just a holiday and people don't have to work so we use it to relax

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:42 AM

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im old so all that going out and celebrating and yada yada... been there done that got the tshirt etc etc

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many many times...

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:42 AM

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visual tree Here, we don't take independence day seriously. It's just a holiday and people d...

Haha, a european perspective to holidays rofl

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so true though, nobody cares why or the how, just "no work day" 😄

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:43 AM

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REally that's how it is here. I guess maybe some take it a bit more seriously but mostly it's just a reason to party, get drunk/relax and getting a day off from work

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:44 AM

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night girder Haha, a european perspective to holidays rofl

Especially if a holiday is on thursday. Then we also take vacation on friday so we have 4 days without work jace_smile

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 10:44 AM

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night girder so true though, nobody cares why or the how, just "no work day" 😄

It's sad that people forget the meaning of holidays.
With religious ones, I can understand, but historical ones should be made more aware

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:45 AM

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I wonder how many holidays, are gone with time, like removed by whoever conquered us.
And maybe we should brim them all back. Then we never have to work 🤣

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 10:46 AM

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Important German holidays, historically:
01.05.
08.05. (not even a no-work day)
03.10.
09.11. (also not a no-work day)

And probably some I forgot
(DD/MM format)

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:46 AM

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3000BC we celebrated the rain with a holiday. Let's bring it back 😄

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:46 AM

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We are really good at this: "Connecting a holiday with paid leave involves strategically planning time off around public holidays to maximize your time away from work. This can be done by either taking paid leave before or after a public holiday, or by strategically using "bridge days" (weekdays between a holiday and a weekend) to create longer periods of leave. "

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:46 AM

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I tried doing a rain dance once... unforunately I don't have enough Choctaw blood :/

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So it got more sunny...

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 10:47 AM

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night girder I wonder how many holidays, are gone with time, like removed by whoever conquere...

I think a country should remove all religious holidays and create labor laws to compensate.
You get 10 extra days of PTO for religion/tradition

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:47 AM

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That would be funny to see happen.

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 10:47 AM

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Historical holidays, like independence day or Union day should stay tho, because they're of national importance

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:48 AM

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dire igloo I think a country should remove all religious holidays and create labor laws to ...

I am both christian or muslim when it comes to religious holidays 🤣

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 10:48 AM

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dire igloo Important German holidays, historically: 01.05. 08.05. (not even a no-work day) ...

Btw, challenge for the people in here:
What are the historical events associated with these days?

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:48 AM

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I care little about the holidays themselves. I am invested in history anyway, I don't need silly little days to remind me of history.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:48 AM

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I'm whatever is getting today off religion

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:48 AM

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But a nice dday off, I don't mind.

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But the why and how, eh don't care.

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Aren't half of them "fake" anyway? Like manipulated or on the wrong day.

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Or is that with some of the religious ones that aren't even on the correct days.

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 10:49 AM

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visual tree I am both christian or muslim when it comes to religious holidays 🤣

That's great, you're free to spend your 10 days however you want, be it Christian or Muslim.
Doesn't even need such a dual-religion setup.

Maybe you're a Christian and your spouse is Muslim.
Maybe you live in a village with a special village tradition on a specific day.
Stuff like that.

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:49 AM

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I know some of our German holidays got replaced by the Catholics when they conquered everything here.

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Back then Belgium (it wasn't a country) was part of the German ... tribes I guess. Because it was all tribes here 🤣

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:50 AM

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Im a whatevergetstodayoffatarian

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Actually I can legally marry people in the state of GA

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:50 AM

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dire igloo That's great, you're free to spend your 10 days however you want, be it Christia...

I was joking btw. People here will joke how they change their religion depending on which religious holiday is next lol

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:50 AM

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You got a good netflix show about the hisotry of the german tribes.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:50 AM

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As a Dudeist.

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:50 AM

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And the Romans trying to conquer.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:50 AM

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And yes I can do a legally binding wedding....

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(that's all marriage really is, a contract...)

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:51 AM

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This one. It's german Fireworker2000. You might like it.

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 10:51 AM

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night girder Or is that with some of the religious ones that aren't even on the correct days.

Yeah, "Christian" holidays that just so happened to coincide with Pagan traditions.
Hmmm...

Christmas being around Winter Solstice, Easter being around spring start (literally named after Ostara, goddess of fruitfulness), etc

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:51 AM

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And it's rooted in history. It really happened.

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:52 AM

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I consider gaming a religion and demand government to implement a holiday for gamers!

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:52 AM

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oh yeah are all pagan holdouts, easier to convert that way

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 10:52 AM

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night girder Back then Belgium (it wasn't a country) was part of the German ... tribes I gues...

*Germanic

German refers to the modern country of Germany.
Germanic refers to the tribal times before medieval times

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:52 AM

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The romans captured young Germans and tried to brainwash them into roman officers over 10 years. To then conquer Germania.
Well it didn't planned out as they hoped to.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:52 AM

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they already do something on that day... so now they'll jsut...do something a little different

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 10:53 AM

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visual tree I was joking btw. People here will joke how they change their religion depending...

They're free to do so, because their amount of religion PTO doesn't change.
If you want to change religion weekly to make sure you get PTO as often as possible, you'll end up having to work on Christmas, congrats

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:53 AM

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And the fac of Christmas. at ;east jere. osm

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isn't jesus

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It's Santa... a chracter invented for marketing

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 10:53 AM

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night girder This one. It's german Fireworker2000. You might like it.

Is it good?
If so, I'll put it on my watchlist

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:53 AM

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Roman history is actually pretty simple; "Oh the betrayal, I didn't see it comming" 🤣

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:54 AM

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dire igloo Is it good? If so, I'll put it on my watchlist

I liked it 🤷‍♂️ And it's history.

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And it's a german show. So I wanted to support it.

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It's still Netflix show so ... eh.

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:54 AM

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Ho ho ho comsume product ho ho ho

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:54 AM

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But I cannot help to support this show. Focusing on our real history of western europe.

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 10:54 AM

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charred relic It's Santa... a chracter invented for marketing

No. A character hijacked and popularized for marketing.
Saint Nick is an actual saint who has an actual connection to Winter times in Europe (I just forgot what it was)

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 10:55 AM

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Worst is when they tell kids "real" santa lives in Finland and they earn a lot of money from this

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:55 AM

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yes bit tje VISUAL versin people see in their mind today

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isn't ole snt nick... it's a marking character

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:56 AM

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dire igloo No. A character hijacked and popularized for marketing. Saint Nick is an actual ...

Was it coca cola who hijacked it? 😄

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💰 💰 💰

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:57 AM

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I wonder if he whips the elves...

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Bet he does...

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 10:57 AM

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In Germany, we celebrate Saint Nicholas Day on 06.12. every year
Kids clean their shoes and put them out the night before, then "Saint Nikolaus" (their parents) put sweets and maybe small gifts in there for a nice surprise in the morning.

My mom always makes sure to pick a chocolate Nikolaus - with actual Bishop's clothing, not the Coca Cola Santa redesign.
She said it's always an exhausting search

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 10:58 AM

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Oh no... I don't like where this is heading hehe

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 10:58 AM

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charred relic isn't ole snt nick... it's a marking character

It's based on Saint Nick's robes, but it was "cleaned up" for corpo use.
Remove religion, smoothen the aesthetic, etc

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:59 AM

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My friend was debating me on what people first think when they hcear christmas

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he actually thought it would be jesus, I said tree

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 11:00 AM

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dire igloo In Germany, we celebrate Saint Nicholas Day on 06.12. every year Kids clean thei...

And then there's Knecht Ruprecht who punishes misbehaving children - but it's okay if the children own up to their mistakes before.

Basically: teach children that making mistakes is okay if you reflect on them, realize your wrongdoing, apologize and find a way to do better.
And don't teach them "act exactly like I want you to or else"

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 11:00 AM

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he calls his mom and says whats the first thing you think of if i mentione christmas and she's like 'oh i dunno dressing up the tree'

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 11:00 AM

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charred relic My friend was debating me on what people first think when they hcear christmas

Snow, which is becoming rare here lol

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 11:00 AM

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im like boom told you the tree was more popular than jesus lol

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 11:01 AM

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charred relic he actually thought it would be jesus, I said tree

Stress and hectic, especially for family people.

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 11:01 AM

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dire igloo And then there's Knecht Ruprecht who punishes misbehaving children - but it's ok...

You call it ruprecht?

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 11:01 AM

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Yup

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 11:01 AM

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my whol ejoke was the tree was more poular than the man himself

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 11:01 AM

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We call it different. Totally different.

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Or wait. The name changed.

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in the last few years because of backlash.

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 11:01 AM

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Btw, I grew up believing in the "Christkind" (child Christ? I guess?)

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 11:01 AM

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I grew up believing in "Kabouters"

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 11:01 AM

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Santa always was a corpo capitalist Western thing

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 11:01 AM

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You probably know what I am speaking off 😄

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 11:02 AM

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I found out Santa wasn't real because I was a little detective

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and it was might strange that I saw a roll of paper the same as what "santa" brought

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 11:02 AM

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night girder I grew up believing in "Kabouters"

Don't you call Nikolaus smth like Sinterklaas too?

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 11:02 AM

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under their bed...

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 11:02 AM

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dire igloo Don't you call Nikolaus smth like Sinterklaas too?

Indeed. But different names for the helper 😉

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 11:02 AM

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Perhaps Santa was just framing them... oh no have I made a critical error

visual tree Jul 6, 2025, 11:02 AM

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Beter behave or Krampus will pay you a visit on Christmas and whip you really good!

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 11:02 AM

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is santa real?

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 11:02 AM

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night girder Indeed. But different names for the helper 😉

I think in NL it's Zwarte Piet?

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 11:02 AM

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shit...

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 11:02 AM

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dire igloo I think in NL it's Zwarte Piet?

Not anymore.

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Roetpiet now 😦

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Because the whole world was pissed off we called it Zwarte Piet. Even it was not their holiday. Hypocrits.

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 11:03 AM

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Probably cuz black facing political issue

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 11:03 AM

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Exactly. Bunch of hypocrisy.

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 11:03 AM

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It's really weird cuz iirc Zwarte Piet is a coal-related character, so it makes sense that he's full of soot

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 11:04 AM

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Yeah... duh

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chimney????

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 11:04 AM

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idk why Santa would take a guy from a coal mine with him tho

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 11:04 AM

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Oh, here it is told. That the color is because of the chimney they come through.

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 11:04 AM

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night girder chimney????

Smth like putting lumps of coal in your shoes instead of candy

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 11:04 AM

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night girder Oh, here it is told. That the color is because of the chimney they come through.

Hm, okay.

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Got reminded of a funny Cartoon rn tho, lemme find it

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 11:05 AM

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dire igloo Smth like putting lumps of coal in your shoes instead of candy

Carrot for the horse, with cube of sugar. Something to drink for Sinterklaas itself (mostly alcohol). And cookies for Zwarte Piet.

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Sometimes also a glass of milk.

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 11:05 AM

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"we got new sponsor deals"
(coughing)

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 11:05 AM

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It was a whole ritual before going to bed.

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I really liked it as a kid. Never had any questions about it.

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 11:11 AM

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Teaching kids about traditions is important imo - but you should always reflect on what these traditions teach.

Cuz for a lot of things, tradition is nothing but peer pressure from dead people

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 11:11 AM

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Eh, I didn't view it as that at all.

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As a kid; "free gifts".

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As a adult; "giving gifts and see kids smile".

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and spending time together with who is important for you is also a big factor to me. When it comes to traditions.

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In the end, I think it's about joy more than anything else. And connection.

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If we had a holiday to honor all space chickens, I wouldn't mind. Aslong as it brings joy and connection 🤣

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 11:14 AM

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night girder and spending time together with who is important for you is also a big factor to...

That is incredibly important and is lost quite too often

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However, you shouldn't need an occasion to spend time together, appreciate each other or gift tokens of that appreciation

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I'd say it's more fulfilling to do all that without any occasion - it takes away the context of "peer pressure"

dire igloo Jul 6, 2025, 11:17 AM

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night girder In the end, I think it's about joy more than anything else. And connection.

Just look at Western Germany villages and their Schützenfest traditions.

Basically an annual event in early summer to get together, get drunk on beer, connect and spend time with each other and shoot at a wooden bird to see who kills it

night girder Jul 6, 2025, 11:18 AM

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dire igloo However, you shouldn't need an occasion to spend time together, appreciate each ...

That's my issue with holidays. It's so artificial.

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Because I agree, we shouldn't need all this to connect and have fun together.

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but then again, having a few days that reminds us of it isn 't that bad.

gentle osprey Jul 6, 2025, 6:31 PM

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bruh it came back

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the stuttring

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i realy got to get a new mouse

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I don’t know what’s worse playing with this or the stuttering

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verbal raft Jul 6, 2025, 9:45 PM

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damn, i didnt realizze that AFMF 2.1 was this much better than 2.0

inland onyx Jul 6, 2025, 9:58 PM

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Question for the tech folks here
#off-topic-media message

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:08 PM

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Too bad my grandfather isn't still around he could give you an answer in 0.1 second 100% for sure

inland onyx Jul 6, 2025, 10:14 PM

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charred relic Too bad my grandfather isn't still around he could give you an answer in 0.1 sec...

they're just some 1n4002s

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the diodes

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:15 PM

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had to check mouser.. so yeah it's just a basic diode

inland onyx Jul 6, 2025, 10:17 PM

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should be good to just insert my incoming power where c1 is, no?

charred relic Jul 6, 2025, 10:17 PM

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I refuse to say yes or no because I don't wanna fry your board lol

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I'm not 100% sure

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really the capacity might not even be needed... i'd imagine it would just be for smoothing it out a bit

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but i could be totally wrong on that too...

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err capacitor

inland onyx Jul 6, 2025, 10:34 PM

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charred relic really the capacity might not even be needed... i'd imagine it would just be for...

ye the capacitor is just for smoothing it out

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Looking at it, if the chip went bad, I don't even think I need the chip tbh

winged valley Jul 6, 2025, 10:57 PM

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My satisfactory brainrot has caused me to realize that outside of a couple extra physics principles and maybe some material science, PCB design is hardly any different from belt design in satis

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The most complicated part for DIY stuff would boil down to programming FPGA's and controllers, second most complicated would be reading datasheets and getting the right parts. Hmm, maybe I will start doing DIY tools

pure karma Jul 6, 2025, 11:08 PM

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i broke something again

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or i guess something broke

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nvidia drivers are black screening and killing windows with it again yipeeee

thin trout Jul 6, 2025, 11:11 PM

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verbal raft damn, i didnt realizze that AFMF 2.1 was this much better than 2.0

Nvidia smooth motion is oftentimes indistinguishable unless specifically looking for it (e.g. waving the camera at a high velocity while staring at 1-pixel-thick stuff)

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these are pretty good techs now

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integrated framegen is better ofc, since it can do stuff like interpolate the underlying image with more data and then composite the UI afterwards

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but a lot of games dont bother implementing it

inland onyx Jul 7, 2025, 3:05 AM

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winged valley The most complicated part for DIY stuff would boil down to programming FPGA's an...

you overlook one thing

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making the board

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there's a reason semiconductor/chip manufacturers are so valuable

pure karma Jul 7, 2025, 3:09 AM

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oh iv struck gold with this one

inland onyx Jul 7, 2025, 3:16 AM

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pure karma oh iv struck gold with this one

how

pure karma Jul 7, 2025, 3:21 AM

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inland onyx how

inland onyx Jul 7, 2025, 3:21 AM

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oh, you're one of them trucker gamers

pure karma Jul 7, 2025, 3:22 AM

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not really but i just knew this game would let me lmao

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:03 AM

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I'm looking at recovery machines... damn they're expensive.. and there's a vevor one for like $300 but I found out if I get caught using it I can lose my cert because it's not epa certified. ._.

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I get it, if it explodes while connected to an appliance and recovery tank filled with r-12 that would not be good.. but the approved ones are $600 and up

charred relic Jul 7, 2025, 4:07 AM

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The freon goes all around all around the freon goes all around

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:23 AM

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maiden coyote I'm looking at recovery machines... damn they're expensive.. and there's a vevor...

Wait until you need to get automotive recovery/recharger setups 😄

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I was blown away by how spendy they were

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:28 AM

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The idiot boxes? Yeah you pay for stupid lol

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You can do everything those machines do and then some with a good set of gauges, vacuum pump, recovery pump and tank, and a scale.

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And it'll cost a fraction of that, but you have to know what you're doing.

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Oh and a good set of thermometers too.. those are kind of optional for vehicles because the charge is on a sticker.

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:31 AM

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Of course, but the idiot boxes are also set and forget

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Which is nice

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:31 AM

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If you have an issue temperature and pressure is what paints the picture of what's happening inside that system

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:32 AM

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And you can hand it to a technician after 15 minutes of training and trust them not to vent a couple pounds of r134 on accident

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:32 AM

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maiden coyote If you have an issue temperature and pressure is what paints the picture of what...

yep

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Although in cars it's pretty much always just a compressure failure or refrigerant leakage

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:32 AM

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Yeah, rubber hoses are great for that

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:33 AM

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Lol

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Or any metal line after a decade or so

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:34 AM

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And orings.. I've done about 4 mvacs so far.. and I've had one compressor failure and the rest have been orings on the discharge

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:34 AM

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More than anything else, a UV die setup is great for cars

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:34 AM

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maiden coyote And orings.. I've done about 4 mvacs so far.. and I've had one compressor failur...

That tracks

winged valley Jul 7, 2025, 4:34 AM

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inland onyx making the board

Obv I'd pay a company to do it

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:36 AM

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jagged snow More than anything else, a UV die setup is great for cars

yeah, I worked on a 03 buick that had dye in the oil from the factory.. that made it super easy to find the leak. I'm still a bit confused as to how to add dye to a system without pumping it down first.. I'll probably just recover and pull a vacuum and add the dye and then refill it when I've got to do it.

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recover, vacuum, dye, vaccuum, charge.

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:37 AM

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👍

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:37 AM

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maiden coyote yeah, I worked on a 03 buick that had dye in the oil from the factory.. that mad...

That's really nice, actually

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:38 AM

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they don't exactly tell people that during the winter you need to run your ac at least once a week to keep the compressor shaft seal lubricated.

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:38 AM

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Nope

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:39 AM

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I think it's once a month before they run a risk of leaking, but more is better.

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:39 AM

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It helps that modern cars run it with the defrost setting for dehumidification

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:40 AM

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teslas and EV's usually have heatpumps for heat I think.. I don't see why they would use a resistive heater in an EV

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:40 AM

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Some older EVs did use resistive heating 😄

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:40 AM

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I would expect a tesla to have a hermetic compressor tho

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:40 AM

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Including tesla

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But tesla are also the genuises that at one point had a vacuum-powered brake booster that required a dedicated pump rather than just using an electric booster 😄

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:41 AM

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maiden coyote I would expect a tesla to have a hermetic compressor tho

I'd think so, if just for noise

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:41 AM

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they have some kind of air ride thing too on some.. I had to tow one because it broke

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:42 AM

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Yeah, that's standard on many of them

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They've got adjustable ride height and stiffness

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Mostly on the cybertruck and performance trims iirc

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:43 AM

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I still want one, even after all the mess.. I still want the regular tesla car

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:43 AM

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I'd love just about any EV once the prices come down into my price range

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Going to be a decade or so before that happens

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And I'd rather spring for a phev than full bev

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:44 AM

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sadly.. unless the slate comes out.. and doesn't suck.. or we buy used

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:44 AM

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jagged snow And I'd rather spring for a phev than full bev

Super rural and public charging is too spread out to make the trip to visit family which I do once or twice a month

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But my daily commute is short enough that I can bike in the summer and could easily do it on battery with a phev during the winter

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:45 AM

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I could probably make do with a tesla with 50% of it's battery left.. I just want one to go back and forth to work

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:45 AM

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Yeah

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:45 AM

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roughly 20 miles round trip.

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:45 AM

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I've heard nothing but good about the chevy volt for a budget phev

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:46 AM

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arn't those like $35 grand?

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(usa price)

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:47 AM

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I see them in decent condition for 10-15k currently

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So give it another couple years and I might be able to pick one up at my local auto auction for 5k or so

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:48 AM

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5k I could do. unless I start making bank, and get everything paid off.. and even if I do.. I probably will still never buy a new car.

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:48 AM

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I've never been able to afford anything other than used

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Current drive is a taurus that I picked up for under a grand with a blown head gasket

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Fixed that and haven't had a single non-maintineance issue in 50k miles

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~30mpg too

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:51 AM

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I've got a 93 c1500 that I acquired for free, I've probably put 2k into it fixing various shit. I still need to fix the coolent temp gauge (it's the cluster) and replace the power steering pump. and a 2016 rouge with the dreaded cvt that I bought for 7k.

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:52 AM

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Nice 😄

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:52 AM

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the rouge is my daily to and from work and groceries.. truck is for.. truck stuff

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:52 AM

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With what my financial situation has been, I can't justify spending more on a car

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This one was worthless when I bought it and will still be worthless when I quit driving it

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I'd eventually like to have something that rides a little nicer or looks a little cleaner or whatever
But this is economical

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And lets me put a bit of extra money into hobbies

maiden coyote Jul 7, 2025, 4:54 AM

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which makes it a good value, because you got it for next to nothing, and besides fuel and insurance you're good.

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speaking of blown head gaskets.. I've towed 2 this weekend with blown head gaskets.. both of them filled the coolent tankwith oil lol

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one was a 2024 chevy 2500 duramax and the other was a 98 ford e250 handicap van

jagged snow Jul 7, 2025, 4:56 AM

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I always find that unbelievable

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Or washer fluid in the oil

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Can't believe either of those happen as often as they do