Time to game.
Although im still a little worried over all the x3d chips getting fried.
Latest bios is a month ago, ill have to check often to have as little risk as possible
#off-topic-tech
ivory rampart
soft bloom
Like, really, all our discussions about science, education and scientific method would get much richer after digging deeper into the stuff discussed here,
twin dew
Time to game.
Although im still a little worried over all the x3d chips getting ...
Not that many cases of problems except with AsRock MBs.
And the rest on other makers MBs might just be normal tail that gets talked more because of the significant amount of AsRock cases.
And if you want to play safe, don't enable PBO.
ivory rampart
but pbo with negative sign shouldnt cause issues?
i could run stock, but i wouldnt mind a cooler cpu and lower power draw
twin dew
but pbo with negative sign shouldnt cause issues?
There is no sign with PBO?
PBO and Curve Optimizer are different parts of the system.
ivory rampart
ok i gut it wrong.
twin dew
So Curve Optimizer with negative sign is just undervolting.
PBO is about raising power and current limits.
ivory rampart
ah, no i donthave any interest in pbo in that case
twin dew
Both are kind of OC, but Curve Optimizer with negative sign cannot cause more damage than stock, ever.
ivory rampart
im just looking to cool the cpu down slightlz
twin dew
It can cause the CPU to boost higher inside the same power limit to some extent, but not that much.
But can cause the CPU to get unstable from too much negative offset for the specific CPU unit.
feral drift
Time to game.
Although im still a little worried over all the x3d chips getting ...
Can that run Tetris though?
dire igloo
Can that run Tetris though?
No, it can't
Needs a power supply first
Input/output would make sense, I think you can get away without a drive tho (use a bootable USB if you can't)
Then you just need a way to make the PC run Tetris before the CPU overheats
feral drift
Wireless power.. When??
dire igloo
Already exists, in a way
Energy transfer via infrared laser
I remember seeing an LTT vid about it - hella inefficient tho
twin dew
Others too, but all are just horribly inefficient
dire igloo
Still needs extra hardware which isn't in the pic
tough owl
would work well in winter
tribal kraken
New BIOS from ASUS.. They are saying that 4 DIMMS should be an option...
192GB RAM. hmmm
tribal kraken
Yeah, I have 2 kits of them. (2x48GB)
But the other kit has heatsinks removed and waterbloks on them. Cant throw them on there same time
twin dew
Either that or hella unstable
That is the point, Asus has made significant improvements in goal to make 4x Hynix DIMM to work at 6000MT/s without manual tuning.
tribal kraken
I paid 330€ for the 96GB 6400 CL32 kit. Really close to GB/€ ratio for 32GB kits which you can get around 100€ ?
And I had run out of 64GB RAM for point cloud processing so had need for the capacity. Gaming PC would still be fine with 32GB
twin dew
That is the point, Asus has made significant improvements in goal to make 4x Hyn...
Outside of enabling specific option in Asus UEFI and having DIMMs from specific list IIRC.
But don't remember the details, and would still count it as WIP.
Probably again that 6000MT/s only on golden sample CPU, but been trying to make 4-DIMM DDR5 stable while faster.
pure karma
And I had run out of 64GB RAM for point cloud processing so had need for the cap...
I disagree especially with the cuts on vram
Half my ram usage is often it being used as vram
So my ram usage is almost always inflated by like 10GB
tough owl
what
dire igloo
Only time I've heard of RAM being used as VRAM was for iGPU systems - and for those, it was usually always a fixed amount iirc
twin dew
Only time I've heard of RAM being used as VRAM was for iGPU systems - and for th...
GPU drivers can use RAM as VRAM extension if needed.
But MagicZ isn't actually talking about that but seems to be confusing lot of stuff.
UE4/5 is written to prevent GPU drivers from doing that, most other engines just let GPU driver manage GPU memory as it likes.
pure karma
confusing what???
it uses like 80% of the vram then throws the rest on ram and spikes both ussages to the moon
twin dew
Confusing what is actually using the RAM.
Because using all available VRAM and RAM is GOOD THING, if nothing else needs it.
pure karma
like i have 17GB of combined vram usage on satisfactory
about 10GB of that being the actual Vram the rest being offload
now yea the performance tanks to about 1/4 of what it should be but its still better than not having enough ram to componsate for the lack of vram either
charred relic
I only has 12 gigabutts
charred relic
It's actually one of the nicer things about my card, it has a decent amount of VRAM
twin dew
I do have two monitors connected to it.
Three to the main GPU.
night girder
Might be it.
twin dew
It isn't doing much, but that 0.3G of shared mem usage has been normal, just that the dedicated memory part has usually been much lower:
night girder
I didn't know IGPU had vram tbh.
twin dew
I didn't know IGPU had vram tbh.
Just from RAM still, just allocation that is not usable to the CPU.
night girder
Ah, so for GPU dedicated is VRAM. And for IGPU it's allocation of normal RAM solely for IGPU.
twin dew
Yes.
night girder
logic. 
twin dew
And the shared then is stuff that the GPU (driver) is allowed to "steal" dynamically if there is free RAM as needed.
512MB of this hardware reserved is for that IGP dedicated, rest is for other firmware level stuff.
twin dew
Ah, so for GPU dedicated is VRAM. And for IGPU it's allocation of normal RAM sol...
Well, that is why it is "Dedicated" in there.
To just mark it as memory that GPU has full and free access to and nothing else can encroach into.
No matter if that memory is on the card, or just allocation from main RAM.
While Shared GPU memory is only available in coordination with CPU, OS etc.
If the IGP is the only GPU, then you really want 2+GB fixed allocation these days if possible.
languid gulch
whoda guessed that if you go up onto an active volcano, it might erupt
charred relic
Whaaat an active volcano erupting? UNHEARD OF!
charred relic
How well ya think a 5700G would do for video encode/decode if that's it's only GPU task?
Been looking over some prices to see what I can put together server system for.
One of it's tasks will sometimes be transcoding video, so having some hardware for that would def be great heh
Seems like I can put something together for 500ish if i shop around, that'll only be 1TB storage but I can populate the 2.5 bays later
charred relic
The other option is more expensive but it'll for sure work, a lower end GPU
really?
winged valley
Yeah
winged valley
I'm running an old used one I bought for like $40
charred relic
I'll have to check that out... it doesn't need to do much just handle potentially 2 or 3 transcodes at once
winged valley
Enough horsepower for at least 2 1080p60 streams, not sure how much more it can handle though as that's the most I've ever pushed it to
There's a datasheet somewhere on reddit
charred relic
I mean I'm willing to spend more if I need to, I looked at a 3050 since those are cheap now
winged valley
Oh but if this is a linux system make sure you go through driver hell
charred relic
well that's the thing, it'll 100% for sure be linux
winged valley
Its not as simple as setting up a gaming gpu iirc
charred relic
in fact it'll be proxmox heh
winged valley
I mean I'm willing to spend more if I need to, I looked at a 3050 since those ar...
At that price just get an arc
charred relic
Yeah I gotta do some homework on that aspect
charred relic
It'll either be proxmox and containers or pure linux... either way even proxmox most things will be linux heh
which i guess makes AMD easier probably
winged valley
in fact it'll be proxmox heh
That doesn't matter, I assume you're going to be running containerized jellyfin/plex
winged valley
If you're looking to spend 3050 money, look at intel arc
Cheaper and more efficient with comparable transcode
charred relic
yeah im used to shopping for gaming not for transcoding only lol
winged valley
jellyfin will have it's own setup
That's what I did. Figuring out gpu passthrough to docker was too complicated so it has a separate box
charred relic
another thing is I'll want to be able to do those 2 maybe 3... at up to 4k heh
winged valley
yeah im used to shopping for gaming not for transcoding only lol
Idk about battlemage, but the arc a380 is a good choice
Theres probably a bunch of used ones for cheaper now too
charred relic
yeah i wouldn't doubt it
winged valley
Also speaking of datasheets
Before buying any gpu for transcoding, check for stream limits
winged valley
Most nvidia gaming gpus have a 2 stream encode limit
winged valley
for the a380
New or used and what currency
charred relic
ok here is another angle... is there any budget AI accels that are actually decent haha
winged valley
No
charred relic
Well I'll have some cores and threads to play with too
winged valley
Found the nvidia datasheet developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-and-decode-gpu-support-matrix-new
dire igloo
for the a380
Why a380 and not a310?
charred relic
Seems like even that route I can get the stuff with the accels i need for cheaper
winged valley
Because I misremembered
charred relic
i need min h265
winged valley
Why a380 and not a310?
Idk why the a380 was stuck in my head, 310 is the one
charred relic
does everything but AV1 which i can live without for sure lol
i bookmarked it for reference when im ready to pull the trigger
Jellyfin supports full acceleration nvidia gpus on windows and linux so...
and "mainstream" intel, does that mean stuff on the cpus or the dedicated cards...
winged valley
Iirc integrated and dedicated intel both use quicksync
charred relic
If that's the case it supports it i believe
winged valley
ark.intel.com is your friend always when researching intel beyond what cpu for gaming
Lots of good info on it
winged valley
Understandable
My main server has a 5950X in it and the jellyfin server uses a 4700K but in my defense its a used pc I didn't build
charred relic
Well never say never... might come across some great deal on something
Honestly the first part I buy will be the PSU if anything. I have a 3700x system with 32GB in it that might work with a PSU
And if not... need the PSU anyhow.
winged valley
Thats a good system to run jellyfin and some other iot stuff if wanted
charred relic
That's what I was thinking
winged valley
Also with jellyfin I recommend setting up a persistent ramdisk to store transcodes in
charred relic
I'd like to be able to dedicate the more powerful cpu system to game servers
winged valley
Ehhhhhhh
charred relic
well first thing will be that 3700x would get a RAM upgrad to at least 64GB
winged valley
What game servers in particular
charred relic
Modded MC
winged valley
Oh thats nothing
charred relic
Maybe Satisfactory
winged valley
I was worried youd say ark
charred relic
Probably an instance of Satisfactory
winged valley
Maybe Satisfactory
You can but I wouldn't run jellyfin on it at the sane time
charred relic
Well if the 3700x works it'll be doing that
i can still build the more powerful system
winged valley
Satis dedicated gets pretty taxing all things considered, usually I'd containerize something like that
charred relic
with the 3700x i can probably just transcode on the cpu
winged valley
Or spin up a dedicated vm with core allocations
charred relic
that's like... about all that system would ever do
winged valley
with the 3700x i can probably just transcode on the cpu
You can't
It would be software encoding
You do not want that
winged valley
You said you want 3-4 4k streams
charred relic
no 2... maybe 1
winged valley
You'll be lucky if software encode can push 2
winged valley
How tight of a budget are you on where you can't just buy a P400 for like $50
charred relic
WEll here's the thing... the other system won't need the gpu so i can fix that either way
i can try it, problematic, pull the trigger on a card
winged valley
My bad, 44.99
winged valley
i can try it, problematic, pull the trigger on a card
Fair enough
charred relic
will that keep up with 3 4k transcodes if needed?
charred relic
that's one of the bars
winged valley
It would perform much better than software though
Anyways this is where your research and my sleep both begin
charred relic
maybe i never need 3 at once... but i wanna be able to... i'd like to be able to do as many as i can but i can't spend endless money lol
unless i win the big lottery... then i'll buy us both a 30k dollar server lol
and you can hold me that one friend!
winged valley
unless i win the big lottery... then i'll buy us both a 30k dollar server lol
My dream server is only 10k tops
winged valley
Whats that
winged valley
Oh lol
charred relic
i mean if you have a 30k server might as well put it in a datacenter
winged valley
When I move out I'm getting business fiber, I do have a business to buy it with
charred relic
we can create a vlan there and share memes
winged valley
My home is wired for 2.5 gig
charred relic
quickly....
winged valley
we can create a vlan there and share memes
My server and your server can be best friends never ever knowing each other even exist
charred relic
im still on 1... i'll get around to upgrading as soon as it pains me lol
(or more internet plan goes past that)
winged valley
im still on 1... i'll get around to upgrading as soon as it pains me lol
Assuming your motherboards have 2.5 gig all you need is a 2.5 gig switch
charred relic
Yeah some of my stuff isn't... some is
charred relic
i could do that with the newer stuff for sure
winged valley
Or at least 5gig uplink
charred relic
I can get past 1Gbps from my provider I just don't wanna pay for it since I really don't NEED faster
charred relic
I'm actually down on their lower plan getting 600Mbps, which is fine
My ping is incredible which matters more for gaming than speed anyhow
The only times the 1Gbps plan I downgraded from is missed is downloading huge games lol
dire igloo
The only times the 1Gbps plan I downgraded from is missed is downloading huge ga...
Meanwhile my 1Gbps plan gives me about 700Mbps
safe trench
Meanwhile my 1Gbps plan gives me about 700Mbps
thats normal
feral drift
I hope the questions was made using AI.. Else that school got a problem..
In before someone argues that the correct answer is "Motherboard"
languid gulch
idk if even AI could get that wrong
dire igloo
Another potential option: someone didn't know how to use the quiz making software
I've had that a couple of times where the quiz software is automatically shuffling the replies and telling you to always put the correct answer in the first box.
So when you go and randomize the order of answers yourself, you end up with a false answer in the top box
dire igloo
I hope the questions was made using AI.. Else that school got a problem..
*In b...
Wdym "else that school got a problem"?
If they're using AI to create tests, that's still a big problem
feral drift
Wdym "else that school got a problem"?
If they're using AI to create tests, that...
Well beside the statement you made above..
It would be alarming if the teacher didnt use AI and didnt know the correct answer - I sorta hope thats a shared POV :)
But I sorta ruled that out, and would instead believe it was generated using AI - I find that more plausible, and that no one checked if the results if it was correct or not..
I dont know, if i strongly disagree that using AI is bad, it can do much of the busy work for you, but you should still have a feeling about the end result, and control/test that the AI produce is doing its job and its correct :)
dire igloo
AI can do very superficial work very quickly, but still needs to be cross-checked.
The issue isn't as much about AI being used, but AI being used uncritically leading to very obvious issues.
feral drift
What I personally do hate about tools like ChatGPT - is that it will prompt you in a way that make the answer seem totally legit - which can make the end user feel like the result is correct..
And because of that, they dont test it, because they way its prompted.
I would much rather have it present it in a way, where you instinctly want to test it.
dire igloo
Also, the primary purpose of a test should be to check how well the teacher did when imparting their knowledge.
Shortcutting test creation by making an AI generate them means that the school isn't taking a serious interest in ensuring good quality control for their teachers
Tho that's more a philosophical debate on how students should be taught and how schools should operate
feral drift
For sure, I dont know youre occupation, so statement below may or may not comply with you :)
But I would strongly believe that the school trusts the teachers to do the right thing, and dont control which method the teacher is using.
And that I think would apply for many other workplaces too.
So if the teacher used to make the questionaire manually and it would take him 8 hours to do, but can do it in 30 minutes with ChatGPT, he just scored him self a 7,5 hour payed break :)
And that last statement, I think would become more common by the day..
ivory rampart
What I personally do hate about tools like ChatGPT - is that it will prompt you ...
Almost no human can be so confident in a wrong answer like chattgpt.
feral drift
Almost no human can be so confident in a wrong answer like chattgpt.
Politicians? :D
ivory rampart
No, they know its a lie
charred relic
One time I took a test to see how well I could navigate Windows 95. It was a simulation of Windows 95 running on Windows 95 and one part the only reason it said to NOT alt-tab as the answer was because that would switch you out of the stupid sim app
talk about dumb on multiple levels... as alt-tab WAS the fastest way to do what they asked heh
Also the simulation was super buggy and clonky/slow... ugh
dire igloo
And that last statement, I think would become more common by the day..
More like: schools will soon expect teachers to create a test in half an hour
dire igloo
No, they know its a lie <:hehe:382483156542029825>
Humans can be very confident in spreading false information too, they just need to believe it's true
dire igloo
For sure, I dont know youre occupation, so statement below may or may not comply...
btw, I'm working tech support, education system is just one of many things I find interest in.
What you're describing there is a disgusting lack of quality control, essentially just a "you got this, bro" instead of actual mechanisms.
Here in Germany for example, there are regular state-standardized exams to ensure that students learn everything they should be learning - as an extra measure of quality control above the school itself
pure karma
well yea duh
my teachers are constantly just recyclyng someone elses work and then patching it up whenever necesairy so all tests are just years of patch jobs stacked on top of eachother especially math tests since no one has cared to remake them
its awful
mental oriole
Don't wanna know
ivory rampart
after 30 minutes of win 11, i have had enough of that bullshit.
reinstalling windows 10.
When that stops working im going linux.
win 11 is so bad its hard to believe
dire igloo
Skill issue
I'm using Win11 on my media PC and it's fine.
I like Win 10 more, but nowhere near enough to bother changing OS
twin dew
After disabling all the various advert "help" options, not that different from Windows 10, except the first start menu screen.
dire igloo
Quitting after 30 minutes is weak
tough owl
could say the same about people who give linux a 30 minute chance......
jagged snow
Yeep
But this guy also refuses to try linux?
So
Seems to just be unreasonably stubborn
glacial holly
W11 is fine, actually
mental oriole
It's µSoft
They just added tons of bloat nobody wants.
Like have an AI model baked into your photos app because that's totally needed.
pure karma
And have 2 versions of every default app
and make most of the bloat be impossible to uninstall through traditional methods
dire igloo
But this guy also refuses to try linux?
What guy? Me?
I refuse to use Linux because my usecase doesn't allow it (main PC) or switching isn't worth it (laptop, media PC)
jagged snow
What guy? Me?
No the windows 11 hster
dire igloo
Umbranocturna no clue why they're against Linux
twin dew
and make most of the bloat be impossible to uninstall through traditional method...
Are we using same Windows 11?
The uninstallable things for me are:
Game Bar, Get Help, Microsoft Store, Phone Link, Tips, Windows Security?
And Store is going to be uninstallable in EU soon.
pure karma
if you nuke them through powershell yea but thats not traditional means
twin dew
No?
pure karma
i mean ways the regular person can uninstall them
twin dew
I mean by using Installed Apps, or right click & uninstall.
Those aren't, all the others are IIRC.
And I did uninstall most of the stuff.
And replaced the new Photos with Photos Legacy and uninstalled the new Photos after.
tough owl
What guy? Me?
oh no I was talking about magic only giving ubuntu like 20 minutes
pure karma
wdym
i used it daily for like a week
and the ni couldent stand the random spikes in input delay as hig has like 5 seconds and significantly worse performance
pure karma
Are we using same Windows 11?
The uninstallable things for me are:
Game Bar, Get...
i can think of edge and microsoft bing
- another one but i forgot what
i know one of the 2 copilots cant be uninstalled
twin dew
i can think of edge and microsoft bing
Both can be uninstalled?
And I have uninstalled that Bing.
And no copilot(s) either installed.
tough owl
edge cant be in the US
glossy glacier
#EU-FTW
twin dew
Basically for me, anything in Start menu that doesn't have small "System" under the app name can be uninstalled via GUI.
pure karma
Both can be uninstalled?
And I have uninstalled that Bing.
EU advantage
tough owl
man thats so lame
twin dew
And I don't have N-version installed.
Just normal Win11, so probably goes by the region/country setting.
safe trench
I hope the questions was made using AI.. Else that school got a problem..
*In b...
no it was stored in the ram all along
ivory rampart
Skill issue
skill issue at microsoft
ivory rampart
Quitting after 30 minutes is weak
i nuked it when i saw that the audio output setting is hidden in another menu, instead of accessible from the taskbar
also, im not against linux
im using it on my laptop for years and would chose it over win 11 on desktop once win 10 is done for
languid gulch
i wonder if Steam is now working on a desktop OS now that we've seen that their game console OS ends up giving better fps vs windows
ivory rampart
You can already use it on desktop with all Amd i think.
Just that its not optimized for it
languid gulch
yea i'm more thinking of an "official" Steam OS for desktop that'd work with standard hardware, not just AMD
ivory rampart
I hope they do
Would probably not be my choice, but it would be good for linux anyway
charred relic
That's what I want. Something rolled up for desktop PC's.
If it gets battery life live I've heard on handhelds it makes me more interested in one...
ivory rampart
Im waiting on a steamdeck 2/refresh
charred relic
I'd be interested in that if the hardware is decent
There will come a time when something like that will be super super valuable lol
twin dew
i nuked it when i saw that the audio output setting is hidden in another menu, i...
Same as Windows 10?
Click on volume icon, click on icon next to the volume bar?
Or just the keyboard shortcut?
Or was there one click less in Windows 10?
Or right-click the volume icon, select Sound Settings
ivory rampart
It was one click less
I change output device at least 10 times a day
Im not just going to accept the shitification
wanton orchid
It was one click less
I mean it gives you a shortcut though
twin dew
And if you are changing the output based on program, you can just set specific programs to always output to specific one.
I have set my main browser to always output via speakers for example.
In Windows Mixer.
ivory rampart
Its not based on Programm, its just inconvenient. Dont see the need to use something that is anoying.
charred relic
You'd love my audio chain
Some of my stuff gets stitched together via virtual cables
😄
There's some stuff not even connected or powered on like the Katana amp...
midnight osprey
hey guys, wonder if you can recommend an app to me?
I'd like to put statements to help remind me of things actually on my desktop ... is this possible?
mental oriole
Sticky notes app? (Windows)
Linux should have an alternative but forgot its name.
No clue about apple stuff tho.
languid gulch
after only 2 weeks i found how to make my rgb ram feel like matching the rest of my system
dumbest shit ever. wasn't even a conflict between armoury crate & icue
wasn't being "detected" on the main page in icue for doing any lighting stuff, but was being detected under settings & update. deleting it from the profile & restarting icue to let it grab onto a fresh profile did it
night girder
ASUS is now responding to that situation. The company says that the botnet can be removed with the firmware update, but that installing it is not enough in some cases. For devices that are (possibly) infected, it is necessary to update the firmware to the latest version, but then it is necessary to reset the device to the factory settings.
According to the company, a reboot is not enough. The malware that is now being spread can survive a reboot, says ASUS. For devices that have reached the end-of-life status, this is not necessary. For that, it is sufficient to install the latest firmware version for the device, but ASUS also recommends disabling remote access via, for example, SSH or DDNS.
For anyone with asus routers.
twin dew
Initial access:
Launch brute-force attacks targeting login.cgi to compromise devices with weak credentials OR exploit older authentication bypass vulnerabilities to gain admin access
And only then can use that new hole in /start_apply.htm
Based on another source on that.
So first needs legit or otherwise gained access to the management interface, which isn't exposed on public IP by default.
Yes, being able to do shell command injection once you get access to the management interface is bad.
But that same management interface would also allow to just enable telnet or ssh access directly.
Which would then allow doing the same shell stuff to add that permanent access.
verbal raft
WHY TEST it with DX11 ????
well, at least this time they noted that DX 12 is faster but SILL
twin dew
Because it defaults to DirectX11 on all presets?
Or at least High and below.
So they are testing with High preset, which uses DirectX11 by default.
verbal raft
7900 XT level RT ? wut
its quite funny how it beats the 7900 XT in RT even though it has less than half the cores
this also looks really good
but i doubt we will see this scaling IRL when the cards launch
tough owl
not sending the 8gig card to reviewers and then telling everyone that 8gigs is enough is stupid
twin dew
And based on few leaks, the 8GB cards seem to have also lower clocks.
verbal raft
not sending the 8gig card to reviewers and then telling everyone that 8gigs is e...
AMD did send reveiw samples though (unlike NVIDIA)
twin dew
So should be 9060, not 9060 XT 8GB.
tough owl
I have yet to see a 9060xt 8gb review video
verbal raft
I have yet to see a 9060xt 8gb review video
cuz those release tomorrow AFAIK
verbal raft
So should be 9060, not 9060 XT 8GB.
this i cant definetely agree with
verbal raft
amd is no better than nvidia
NVIDIA did EVERYTHING they could to not let reveiwers reveiw the 8GB cards so far the only thing AMD did was to put the embargo date one day after the 16GB one
there's a difference
tough owl
lmg chart says the 8gb has the same clocks, but Im going to assume 90% of 16gb cards are going to be OC models. they probably have higher margins for a perf increase that doesn't cost anything BOM wise.
tough owl
NVIDIA did EVERYTHING they could to not let reveiwers reveiw the 8GB cards so fa...
if the performance was truly the same they then shouldn't have delayed the 8gb embargo. both companies still pulled a scummy move, just one moreso
verbal raft
i love how steve put the mountain bike into this reveiw LOL
willow pike
pure karma
NVIDIA did EVERYTHING they could to not let reveiwers reveiw the 8GB cards so fa...
the diffrence is that they comited the crimes diffrently but they still comited the crimes
this is a dumb point
verbal raft
the diffrence is that they comited the crimes diffrently but they still comited ...
bruh
midnight osprey
Sticky notes app? (Windows)
Linux should have an alternative but forgot its name...
oooh, not used that in years, lol
used to use at work in the past ... this is perfect, thanks
I am neuro spicy, autism and adhd ... often get overwhelmed even in gaming
turns out I have Frustration Tolerence issues, lol
and having a reminder like, lets just try for 10 mins to fix this (rather than wanting a fresh start all the time)
can you believe, so many times in the past I would fresh start even knowing it would take me 10's of hours to make that progress back, lol
⏱ 2. Micro-Challenge Persistence
Try:
“I’ll give it 10 more minutes before deciding to restart.”
Or “I’ll just fix this one thing before I let myself hit 'New Game'."
This is behavioral training for your brain. You’re proving to it: “We can handle this discomfort—just a little at a time.”
Sticky notes is perfect for this
will help me make better progress with my game dev too
soft bloom
I ran into a library that when reading a file somehow manages to kill the kernel without informing Jupyter about it,
cause it stillthinks that cell is executing, but in reality it already restarted
ivory rampart
I just spent 30 minutes trouble schooting my windows.
In sniping tool, the curser was always dragging left.
Turns out it was a book leaing on my controller.
charred relic
turn them on! turn them all on!
languid gulch
one of the best feelings in tech is having everything charged up
pure karma
For irresponsible people
soft bloom
U less i unplug it
Yes, that is indeed turning off as in powering if you don't use it - turn it off
Just a good rule for everything that needs power.
Especially chargers
soft bloom
one of the best feelings in tech is having everything charged up
I like my capacitors operating within safe range
ivory rampart
Yes, that is indeed turning off as in powering if you don't use it - turn it off...
There is no battery in it, and it would be kinda anoying to plug ig in/out
soft bloom
There is no battery in it, and it would be kinda anoying to plug ig in/out
you are leaving an active input
it never ends well
at least put it in some box to prevent further inputs?
wanton orchid
answered an old question there :
any USB cable officially rated for high bandwidth (usb 3.2 10Gbps et greater typically)
is mandatorily a fully wired cable (2x2)
some 10Gbps cables can even be rebranded as 40Gbps cables
midnight osprey
hey guys, any ideas why video playback might be a lil laggy along with my games? none of my resources are maxed out, not even slightly
soft bloom
hey guys, any ideas why video playback might be a lil laggy along with my games?...
what's the graph for video encode/decode?
midnight osprey
what's the graph for video encode/decode?
pure karma
hey guys, any ideas why video playback might be a lil laggy along with my games?...
drive if a local file other than that wifi or broken browser probably
soft bloom
it's not there. you can choose which ones to display
pure karma
video encode/decode should nerver max out unless your doing video exporting
pure karma
midnight osprey
I got loads, lol
pure karma
yea i reccomend changing compute 0 to video encode and compute 1 to video decode
keep 3D as is and change copy if you want although there isent much else of value to monitor
3D, encode/decode and Vram are the main ones
midnight osprey
unless my adhd is getting the better of me, I do not even see encode option
pure karma
yea your options are really scuffed idk why
midnight osprey
i've checked them all, they're all barely used right now
pure karma
probably an AMD moment
midnight osprey
lol
pure karma
thats not an igpu right?
midnight osprey
could this none OS drive be an issue?
it's best you could get from AMD (last gen)
pure karma
no since os drives generally work in bursts insteaad of constant and that percentage is esentially how much of the time the drive is actively doing something
only place i can find scuffed optiosn is my igpu
it could be named diffrently
soft bloom
I got loads, lol
well, for playback, you only need to monitor Video Decode 1
As it is de-coding from data stream to something it is displaying
midnight osprey
maybe there is simply something wrong with my game installation then
soft bloom
and just see if it gets load during playback, gaming or both
midnight osprey
but I was watching youtube the other day and at first thought the guy making the video might have a low end PC ... now I worry there is something wrong with mine
I hope its not time to reinstall windows
I always forget to save something that I later need, lol
soft bloom
I hope its not time to reinstall windows
I wouldn't go that far before checking drivers
pure karma
but I was watching youtube the other day and at first thought the guy making the...
on firefox?
eliminate firefox out the equasion cause firefox and youtube hate eachother
midnight osprey
I wouldn't go that far before checking drivers
that scares me too! lol
pure karma
especially if you have an adblocker
midnight osprey
cos in the past I updated AMD drivers and it made things worse, haha
I use Vivaldi
Brave recommended to me to block youytube ads
I pay for premium and detest custom ads in videos, lol
tough owl
sponsorblock
midnight osprey
I will look that up, thank you
I removed the game and reinstalled on my OS drive
flawless now
pure karma
was the game lagging or the video????
midnight osprey
maybe the other drive is starting to fail, I have installed and ran many games from it in the past that don't need fast loading times
game, and videos recently on youtube
pure karma
if your running the game at the same time as the vide without the fps locked there wont be enough gpu usage leftover for the video since its going to prioritise whatever your tabbed into
midnight osprey
yeha, my system is a beast, I wish when alt tabbing else where it didn't do that, lol
pure karma
that or if you run out of cpu headroom
midnight osprey
when I upgrade my PC I always go with overkill to help prevent any lag at all
pure karma
but LOCK YOUR FRAMERATES
i cant stand people that dont and then complain there system is slow
yea duh cause your letting your games grenade your entire system to oblivion as your trying to do something else
tough owl
or and hear me out with this one
the OS can properly allocate resources based off whats needed in that moment
winged valley
My dream server is only 10k tops
So I lied its 10,714
glossy glacier
unless my adhd is getting the better of me, I do not even see encode option
probably video codec 0 or 1.
some cards do this. my intel a380 has "video decode 0" and 1. 0 id Decode, 1 is ENcode
midnight osprey
yea duh cause your letting your games grenade your entire system to oblivion as ...
nah, thats not what I am saying
my system can multi task easily ... but when I alt tab, I notice the one I left gets laggy, even though no resources are stretched ... thats an MS thing surely
glossy glacier
might be GPU HACS
midnight osprey
yeah
it doesn't happen with videos in a broswer typically ... just a full screen or borderless screen
reinstalling on a different drive defo fixed that issue
midnight osprey
probably video codec 0 or 1.
some cards do this. my intel a380 has "video decode...
interesting, thanks
visual tree
Corporate brainwashing in a nutshell
I would have personally also picked E but the "corporate" answer is most likely A
Although you could also tell the employee you are proud of them but ask them politely to check with you next time if they are going to do something like this but that answer is missing...
And I wouldn't report them to HR, I am not a rat
thin trout
the OS can properly allocate resources based off whats needed in that moment
Haha, that would be nice
Windows is capable of doing that with the CPU, when certain types of resources inside of it are bottlenecking performance.
When there's e.g. heavy L3 cache usage, that will choke other threads.
When GPU is in high load, it's a shitshow. Windows prioritises programs haphazardly and it's very difficult to run multiple workloads, even easy ones, simultaneously. If you wanna run 4 copies of a game for example you have to carefully limit their framerates so that your GPU stays at 50% load during the time of highest stress, otherwise you start to get some games running at full rate while others run at 2fps and all that sort of thing. There's no effective "GPU load limit / GPU time allocation", you just have to make it work by dropping the load until the GPU is usually doing nothing, and therefore available to pick up whatever it's asked to do without latency.
dire igloo
And I wouldn't report them to HR, I am not a rat
Which basically everyone would pick, so it's intentionally omitted
visual tree
Probably
dire igloo
Your options are:
- Report to HR
- Punish employee
- Report to HR
- Punish customers
- Become the scapegoat
visual tree
I hate how most people (including me) would probably pick A even though they wouldn't do that because they know what HR wants to hear
Btw, I am jealous because our company picked Huawei OLT with GPON for my city during 2022 and now every city is getting NG-PON from Huawei 😅
Basically, GPON is 2.4 Gbit/s download and 1.2 Gbit/s upload while NG-PON (I think it's XGS-PON) can deliver symetrical speeds of 10 Gbit/s
twin dew
And I use adblocker and I'm not getting that 🤣
visual tree
Guess it can detect ad-blocker on a mobile browser now....
Which browser are you using btw?
visual tree
Youtube app?
pure karma
i wonder if i log out it will let me
pure karma
Youtube app?
yea
visual tree
That's weird
soft bloom
bruh im on mobile bitch
now multiply huh, I thought only my YT broke
I was considering isntalling Andoroid studio and running NewPipe
visual tree
Are you using a VPN with ad-blocking features or something similar?
visual tree
Some better routers also have an option to block ads and you might see that warning on all devices
tough owl
A refreshing of the page just clears that notice 💀
pure karma
only on copium browsers
verbal raft
@twin dew fun fact
ARK just updated their version of UE
and a lot of players are getting the CPU usage pegged at 100% (im guessing BC of the NVIDIA driver bug)
untill now i wasnt sure it happened in every game (i thought it was just SF for some reason)
twin dew
Nah, general Nvidia driver bugs.
That one just for games that change engine versions.
And then there is that quit on start that affects all UE5 games that use Nvidia StreamLine plugin for DLSS if that broken NGX update is in system.
verbal raft
Nah, general Nvidia driver bugs.
That one just for games that change engine vers...
yeah, i just wasnt 100% sure
BTW, i find it a little crazy just how many people have that issue
i've seen like 30~ people post about that in an hour or so 
twin dew
DDU & driver reinstall.
And that deletion of ProgramData\Nvidia\NGX for that other thing.
But DDU does that too.
jagged snow
they banned other browsers i think lmao
I can load yt on firefox with adblock currently
soft bloom
ofc chrome works
for me it's the same
ok, what happened with Elon in the past couple hours?
charred relic
Other than he doesn't like we're about to blow too much money?
visual tree
He is high on ketamine again
It's funny how all it takes to crash tesla stock is for Musk to post virtually anything on twitter/x
median cliff
Can I unscrew these four screws to take just the fan part off my cpu cooler?
pure karma
yea, just dont forget to unplug the fan before yanking on it
median cliff
I just want to move it to the side so I can clean it
I’ve already taken out the screws but it won’t budge should I use a shim?
pure karma
huh weird
median cliff
I used a razor blade to shimmy it off and that worked
pure karma
probably just stuck to the heatsink over time
median cliff
Yikes
languid gulch
man that is like soooooooo close to being a really bad pattern 🤣
pure karma
im so tempted to take the aio off my 10700F for the first time EVER right now
im so curious if it still even has any paste on it
cause if it dosent and its still getting sub 55C temps under load thats wild
languid gulch
i bet there's paste still there, it's just not paste anymore 🤣
pure karma
idk i feel like it would have dried and turned to dust and went away from sitting for months at a time in the last couple years but then again the lower temps could have helped it preserve itself
its been running 24/7 practically for the last month now so yea
ig i could take just the aio off for now
i have to tear it down before next weekend but i dont feel like having to find a place to keep the motherboard so i dont want to take it out lol
since i dont feel like taking the cpu out unless i have somewhere else to put it
median cliff
I’m having trouble taking off my gpu now, I have the screws off but I can’t find the push tab to get it out the PCIe slot
Is this it in front of the eraser?
median cliff
Should it take much force? And will it make a noise?
median cliff
I’m pushing with the eraser but it’s not budging.
The tab isn’t moving
I unscrewed these two at the back could there be more?
pure karma
nope
should just be the tab left
ig let me take a video since im tearing down my second pc anyway one sec
cant find anything on youtube that dosent just brush off the pcie clip like its nothing lol
median cliff
I pushed with my pinky till it made an impression on my finger
pure karma
It doesn’t move much just turns a smidge to move out the way
its such little movement i dident even notice it at first with my fat phone in the way
pure karma
just give the gpu a yank
half the time you even just nudge the gpu and the clip unlatches
thats why the screws exist lol
safe trench
man that is like soooooooo close to being a *really* bad pattern 🤣
thank god the edgelords are not in satisfactory
pure karma
except that gpu dosent have any lol
median cliff
I think the latch is open cause the left side of the gpu will move but the right won’t
pure karma
DUDE THATS MINT
yea its a bit dry but you can 1000% reuse that
ok i should specify... i know thats not a good idea but im gona do it anyway
either way its gona be dry once i actually swap it since the newest paste i have is over 2 years old now
median cliff
I got to move up about half an inch on the left side but now the right won’t move still
pure karma
if the clip is truly that stuck just rip the left side out and the slot should just release
since the pins will come out enough to shift to the left
median cliff
It won’t without bending the motherboard
languid gulch
if the clip is truly that stuck just rip the left side out and the slot should j...
that sounds like a fantastic way to rip the socket mount out with the gpu
pure karma
its not made of cardboard 😆
median cliff
What would be on the right to make it stuck
languid gulch
the clip
pure karma
it not good and it will scratch the pins but it wont break anything unless you full force bend it before the left side is fully out the socket
pure karma
Just brute force it and it will release
median cliff
Yea I’m trying that, it won’t come out
pure karma
people really underestimate how strong pc parts have gotten
OOOOO WAIT
send a like zommed out pic so you can see the entire gpu
thats a 3080 it probably has a sag bracket
median cliff
languid gulch
yes, to realign it to take it straight out
pure karma
yea but it looks like you just need to push it to the left a bit and then out
its basically out just its still too far right to come out with the clip closed
pure karma
Just brute force it and it will release
you can see how i rotated mine about 30 degrees or so to get the pins to shift to the left and move out the clip
anyway im gonna finish tearing this down good luck
median cliff
I lifted on the left a bunch and it finally came out but so did the clip
pure karma
you should be able to put the clip back in place but id recomend looking up a guide for that
median cliff
Yea it just popped back in
languid gulch
and now take a break & grab a beer
my first time was just as stressful, and involved blood
and was also because of a sticky clip
pure karma
dangit i forgot to run a before benchmark so now i have to put it back together again
alright time for a snack break lol
median cliff
I remember playing From the Depths and iCUE said temp #1 and #2 were 90 C and 106 C on my gpu
Do I need to take off the other side to take off the fans?
pure karma
take the fans off what??? the gpu?
median cliff
median cliff
I want access to the heat sink so I can get the dust easily
pure karma
you would have to tear it down completely which means on top of having to clean the fans you'll have to get new thermal pads and paste, remove all the old ones and put new ones in before you can actually put it back together
the only real way to clean gpu fans is to hit them with an air compressor
pure karma
great job cyberpunk
good one
you know the worst part is its defedently going to run
screw it RTX and path tracing maxed out benchmark run it is
no fsr because its lame
just pure raw power
ok maybe the path tracing is a bit much
now this is peak performance
i told you it would run it
charred relic
nice moontor
pure karma
yes
charred relic
Mine has changed my life
pure karma
my favorite part about it is that asus in french means She sucks (yes the sexual kind)
so i can say my monitors suck because its technically true
charred relic
I want two of these for flight sim...
pure karma
i have 3 but mine are much smaller than yours if i recall
you went with a 34 or something right?
charred relic
The middle seam would be fine since you have a bar there in a real plane anyhows
yeah 34" 1440 ultrawide
pure karma
i still play locked at 60FPS most the time so its not like i can feel it lol
charred relic
I can go past in some games not so much in others
minecraft at 165 sure is smooth though hhaha
pure karma
im not going to end this benchmark run lol
its either going to crash or finish dangit
it may be at 0fps and it may be in supper slow motion but its playing
soft bloom
Are these pins supposed to end halfway?
Probably not but also it looks like contact is still happening judging by marks
median cliff
It’s all plugged back in and seems to be running fine
pure karma
59 minutes of uncertainty later we got a win
pure karma
too bad it dosent exist
i wonder if fsr could even improve it
cause it does suport fsr and amd's frame gen
which is halarious to me
charred relic
no not at 0.34 lol
pure karma
air?
charred relic
it needs a bit more to work with
pure karma
that would be fun to try
il see you in probably another hour 😂
omg its actually working
its getting 6fps
HOWWW
maybe i should whip back out the OC and try and make cyberpunk run maxed setting RTX and path tracing on at a playable framerate on a GXT card
sounds fun
and then watch the b580 crush everything i did without even using xess in a week from now probably
also i nerver lowered the resolution so this is at 1440P which is defedently not helping with the vram shortage
i have to give credit to FSR that is a wild improvement
that is a 13.65X average performance increase
twin dew
Are these pins supposed to end halfway?
Some are supposed to do that.
But I would need to look into pinout or another GPU to say for sure if those specific ones are supposed.
But those don't seem damaged.
median cliff
It’s running fine so far on idle
twin dew
It’s running fine so far on idle
But no-one remembered to say that that clip needs to be pushed down at the end to release it?
Or whatever version of that lock mechanism the specific MB had.
median cliff
I believe I already mentioned the clip so they probably didn’t think I needed to be told
I pushed up on the part where the screws go in and with enough force the gpu and clip popped out
twin dew
The real way to release that is to just to push down on the far end of the clip to press it down, so it releases that hook at the end of the GPUs PCIe slot.
median cliff
I think it was actually already pushed down on mine and I didn’t realize until I took it out
median cliff
Mine only moves up and down like 10 degrees
twin dew
And that is still up.
The unlocked is tiny bit downwards.
Or at least wasn't pushed down enough.
Because of the angle of the card preventing it.
Needs to be released first.
median cliff
And that is still up.
The unlocked is tiny bit downwards.
Maybe that’s why it came out with the gpu
twin dew
The danger of that kind of "just pull out" is that the slot on the MB can be ripped out.
With the MB.
Be happy the clip disconnected from the slot instead.
And yes, those are pain at times when they don't seem to move enough to release properly
Because for actual release, they push the GPU backend up tiny bit.
And yours was jammed up against the slot back because of that angle it was in.
That specific type.
There are others that work differently.
median cliff
How would I decrease the temperature of the gpu? It gets around ~95C during vr and some games
twin dew
Which is still fine if the performance doesn't decrease much.
What is the hotspot temp at same time?
median cliff
its lowered every temp about 10 C after dusting
I’m not sure what hotspot means? iCUE has two different temps
twin dew
So probably 80C normal and 95C hotspot, so 15C delta, so still somewhat ok.
median cliff
Temp #2 is usually around 15C more than #1
twin dew
But basically if case inside temperature is ok, and cleaning the cooler doesn't help, then the next step would be to do repaste, but not worth it with that delta yet.
Because most CPU cooler intended pastes don't work properly on GPUs and would need constant repasting, and various other dangers.
15C temperature delta, as in the difference between the two temperatures.
median cliff
Oh like deltaV from kerbal, alright
twin dew
Delta just means difference basically in this kind of thing.
That deltaV is difference in velocity.
Between the start and end velocities.
twin dew
Depends, you can try with leaving side panel off and seeing if GPU temperatures drop or not.
Or look if there is some kind of motherboard temperature sensor to look for case inside temperature.
median cliff
Eh dusting was kinda annoying so I’d like it enclosed
twin dew
Eh dusting was kinda annoying so I’d like it enclosed
Point was a TEST.
Not long time use.
To see if the case insides get hot or not with current case fans.
median cliff
Oh whoops
median cliff
Or look if there is some kind of motherboard temperature sensor to look for case...
Would Task Manager have this stat or would I need a different program
twin dew
Would Task Manager have this stat or would I need a different program
No.
HWiNFO would be the gold standard currently for computer sensor monitoring.
median cliff
Can’t I just average the idle temps of the cpu and gpu?
twin dew
Can’t I just average the idle temps of the cpu and gpu?
And the problem would be when those are working, after some minutes of load.
Not when idle.
median cliff
Having too many things reading the sensors won’t cause problems right? I have like 4 different programs to read temps
twin dew
Case inside temperature directly affects how hot CPU and GPU get.
As hotter the intake air to a cooler is, less heat that cooler will dissapate.
But the question was to see if your case cooling is good enough, or not good enough, which would show up in if the case inside air temperature goes significantly up while CPU and GPU are loaded, or not.
median cliff
ok im in HWiNFO how do i find the case temp?
twin dew
ok im in HWiNFO how do i find the case temp?
There is probably "Motherboard" temperature sensor, under the CPU related block, before drives.
And that is often the first sensor in that block.
The absolute temperature isn't that important for that, just the change between idle and load.
Where the header will have your MB model before the entries.
midnight osprey
somebody recommended SponsorBlock to me recently ... thank you sooooooo much!
soft bloom
if you were to drop medieval (or even up to 1700s) society with your smartphone in the pocket
would you be treated as:
- person of knowledge (having access to wast knowledge that is unkown to them)
- sick person (speaking nonsense)
- heretick (speking unholy things)
- mage/witch (as in possessing magic)
- demon
- no one would care
pure karma
i have to give credit to FSR that is a wild improvement
i dident even feel like doing an update because i was too tired to care by that point but i managed to bump this even further with an OC and a drop to 1080P
soft bloom
somebody recommended SponsorBlock to me recently ... thank you sooooooo much!
If you need to use sponsor block I would reconsider what content creators you are watching, their values and if they are a good fit for you
dire igloo
if you were to drop medieval (or even up to 1700s) society with your smartphone ...
I would:
- realize that I don't have Internet access any more
- run out of battery
dire igloo
If you need to use sponsor block I would reconsider what content creators you ar...
Da fuq? People gotta survive and live. I don't blame anyone for taking sponsors to finance their content, criticism should be applied based on which sponsors they take and what role they play.
I'd skip the ad anyway, Sponsorblock just automates it.
It's not like I skip the ad because I hate the sellout, I skip the ad because I don't care about it.
I'd rather uninstall Sponsorblock than stop watching my favorite creators.
soft bloom
Da fuq? People gotta survive and live. I don't blame anyone for taking sponsors ...
People gotta survive
skips sponsor segment anyway
❔ ❔ ❔
dire igloo
Hate the game, not the player.
The internet is getting riddled with ads because companies are greedy and humans got bills to pay.
soft bloom
Da fuq? People gotta survive and live. I don't blame anyone for taking sponsors ...
you missing the whole point
dire igloo
> People gotta survive
> *skips sponsor segment anyway*
❔ ❔ ❔
Because you're saying that if I'm skipping a creator's ad, I should reevaluate whether it's morally responsible to keep watching them.
I can still watch the video segment or check the description if I want to.
That logic is as stupid as saying AdBlock on YT is piracy
dire igloo
you missing the whole point
No, you do.
Sponsorblock automates what you're doing anyway, skipping the ad.
There is literally zero reason to reevaluate watching a creator based on whether using Sponsorblock is more convenient
soft bloom
if you are not intersted, not the target audience, or not watching sposnor segment because you don't care:
then you might not be the audience for that video/creator.
you will create that sponsored segment dip for them.
dire igloo
The main reason anyone installs SB is to watch the actual content.
And then you come along and say "well, if you're skipping the ads, skip the content instead"
dire igloo
if you are not intersted, not the target audience, or not watching sposnor segme...
That's why sponsor deals have stopped using views as a metric long time ago.
Click through rate or creator codes are the new go-to metric for tracking engagement
soft bloom
let's imagine a world where everyone skips sponsored segments
would they exist anymore? would creators still do the same stuff?
dire igloo
And no, if LGIO has a sponsored segment for Opera GX, Nord VPN or whatever mobile game, that says absolutely NOTHING about my relation to his content
dire igloo
let's imagine a world where everyone skips sponsored segments
would they exist a...
If everyone skipped a sponsor segment, sponsors would find different ways of monetization - like permanent presence in the content.
Make the ads unskippable because the content itself contains the ad
If sponsored segments stop working, companies will find other avenues of advertisement and creators will find other avenues for monetization
But yes, it's absolutely possible that creators can't afford creating their content.
But the issue really isn't Sponsorblock, AdBlock or anything like that.
The issue is late stage capitalism
pure karma
is there any reasson to plug in all the cpu power for a 65W cpu? 😂
this thing has an 8 pin and 4 pin but like thsi things been turboing 200W on a 4pin all its life i think 8 is enough
dire igloo
is there any reasson to plug in all the cpu power for a 65W cpu? 😂
Aesthetics, not feeling like you're missing out, replacing the CPU with a higher power one
dire igloo
this thing has an 8 pin and 4 pin but like thsi things been turboing 200W on a 4...
Also, the MB might require some CPU power slots to be connected while others are optional
pure karma
well it better not need to 4 pin cause my psu dosent have any
midnight osprey
If you need to use sponsor block I would reconsider what content creators you ar...
Why Files is awesome ... just don't wanna see ads when I pay for youtube premium to avoid ads, lol
and it's working perfectly, BTW
charred relic
Mewtube
One thing that kills my server is the hard drives. Do too much stuff that drives the disk IO to 100%
pure karma
im sure this ssd is probably still fine even if pretty worn out now
languid gulch
seeing that reddit post a few days ago on the dead ssd was wild
some setting was wrong as hell & was power cycling it every 3-5 minutes for like 3 years
pure karma
Mission impossible - the quest of the cpu power conector
languid gulch
my very first pc build i missed that one on my external assembly/test before going in the case
the beeping & the giant red flashing light let me know the system was NOT happy with me
pure karma
i probably have to take the aio fan back out
languid gulch
ah damn
pure karma
Theres 0 chance i can get in there
languid gulch
i do kinda wanna know what working with Corsair's little mini connectors would be like in that situation
pure karma
Its just so far up
languid gulch
yea, you could probably turn it around, but no way to apply enough pressure to lock it in
languid gulch
at least it's just a fan to move and not the whole rad
pure karma
its a fan to move with the screws IN the case
so one of them is also at the wacko conector spot
languid gulch
at least you know how to do it 🤣 could you imagine paying someone $75 to do it for you?
pure karma
lets not celebrate too early here
Iv got atleast 20 more clearence issues to find and have to fix
languid gulch
is that a brown mobo?
pure karma
All of gygabytes mobos are brown and gray
languid gulch
i thought brown was for B series
pure karma
also something possibly concerning i noticed
the 1660 super might have uhh oil? On it
languid gulch
got a screenshot?
pure karma
shines rainbow like oil but its goopy like glue
twin dew
the 1660 super might have uhh oil? On it
Probably from thermal pads.
languid gulch
yea that's what i'm thinking
pure karma
See the wet spot in the corner
languid gulch
should be fine so long as it's not conductive
almost looks like flux work from that pic
also, fucking weird seeing the reversed image
oh wait, brain fart
pure karma
It’s absolutely covered in it
languid gulch
that's a SUPER short pcb 🤣
pure karma
But its not corosion whatever it is
languid gulch
yea, like baldur said, likely just oil from the thermal pads
languid gulch
on the VRMs/vram on the other side
pure karma
It has no backplate
languid gulch
it'll sneak its way thru the solder joints over time
1660 means it's had 5 years to do that
and oil will slide thru & spread wherever it can
if it was water it would have corroded by now
pure karma
Looks like liquid 💩
languid gulch
oof, bad focus 🤣
pure karma
Yea no its too tiny and shiny for my phone
languid gulch
so long as it functions & doesn't put off a bad smell i wouldn't worry about it
1660's still a decent card
kinda wish they had done a 12gb 1660Ti
pure karma
so long as it functions & doesn't put off a bad smell i wouldn't worry about it
its gona get replaced anyway
languid gulch
decent backup tho
pure karma
just my b580 got placed on hold was meant to come in yesterday
languid gulch
EVGA single fan 1660 was my first gpu purchase
pure karma
So now im just trying to boot this stupid thing
languid gulch
at least the wiring will be ready for it to drop in 🤣
pure karma
its allready in but its double 8 pin and the 1660 is a 6 pin lol
languid gulch
true
the weirdest plug config i've seen is on my 6600XT. 8+6 pin on a 142W card
8 pin is 150W, 75W from the socket. so why the 6 pin
no way will it OC to suck down 225W
twin dew
Only 66W of 12V from the socket as the first failure in that. Rest is 3.3V and almost never used at all.
twin dew
But often marketing.
Or not using the slot 12V at all either.
languid gulch
i screwdriver that isent as long as the darn case
ifixit kit
languid gulch
But often marketing.
Or not using the slot 12V at all either.
sucked to use 2x 8 pins on it. the only benefit i found was not needing to rewire anything when i switched over to my 6800XT and its 2x 8 pin config
twin dew
Things are pretty bad in US/Canada if that is the best option available to get single screwdriver.
onyx pike
kinda wish they had done a 12gb 1660Ti
Is the 1070 still good?
languid gulch
definitely old, wouldn't buy one right now, but plenty usable depending on your games
onyx pike
It’s what I’m currently using and I’m debating upgrading. It’s paired with a i7-6700 and idk if I can get more out of it with a better CPU
pure karma
Things are pretty bad in US/Canada if that is the best option available to get s...
Its called the dads spare tools special
onyx pike
That powerful lol
languid gulch
PUT THAT SCREW IN
twin dew
Something like this comes with basically every cheap screwdriver kit in Finland.
languid gulch
AND THAT ONE TOO
onyx pike
that's a good pairing
Is there anything I did wrong yet? Besides the 40 GB of RAM
onyx pike
AND THAT ONE TOO
That one’s optional
languid gulch
🤣
twin dew
Of the 6 or 9 it is meant to have?
twin dew
And no, that isn't really "fine".
pure karma
well yea but it came with no mounting hardware so im folowing the itnructions
twin dew
well yea but it came with no mounting hardware so im folowing the itnructions
Because the MB screws come with the case?
pure karma
no?
well either way i have like 40 m3 screws from my other gigabyte board so thats where i got them
onyx pike
well yea but it came with no mounting hardware so im folowing the itnructions
If it doesn’t need mounting then don’t. If it doesn’t need cooling then just let it sit somewhere inside or out of the case as long as it works it works
languid gulch
Is there anything I did wrong yet? Besides the 40 GB of RAM
ngl i'd yank the 8gb stick out. once you "max" it out, the system will start to chug along trying to move stuff around
onyx pike
Also paid the CPU with a RTX 5090 and see what happens
twin dew
Yes, because they depend on which threads the case standoffs have.
That wasn't standardized for long time, and could use either the smaller or larger "standard pc hardware" screws randomly.
And like any drive screws etc. have always come with the case.
onyx pike
ngl i'd yank the 8gb stick out. once you "max" it out, the system will start to ...
I was thinking about it but I can’t overclock the RAM sticks unfortunately- Mobo doesn’t support
pure karma
If anyone wants to count go ahead
onyx pike
Stuck at 2133
languid gulch
I was thinking about it but I can’t overclock the RAM sticks unfortunately- Mobo...
not talking about speed, talking about capacity usage
onyx pike
Oh ok
Going to do that rn then
pure karma
Funny story this ram is exclusive
twin dew
not talking about speed, talking about capacity usage
And the auto frequency will be higher with just 2 sticks compared to 4 in most cases.
languid gulch
If anyone wants to count go ahead
pure karma
Kingston nerver sold hyperx in 2933 variants on its own
onyx pike
And the auto frequency will be higher with just 2 sticks compared to 4 in most c...
Got 3 in rn, the 32 GB are rated for max DDR4 speeds, the 8 GB is stuck at 2133
The motherboard or CPU doesn’t support speeds higher than 2133 tho
onyx pike
If anyone wants to count go ahead
24
twin dew
Ok, 3 sticks is just wrong.
Thought it was 2x4GB + 2x16GB.
languid gulch
2x16 +1x8
twin dew
Depends on exact implementation if that is always single channel, or just for part of the address range.
onyx pike
Yeah I had 8GB then bought and added a 2x16 kit
pure karma
oh right z490 dosent have F-pannel usb-c
onyx pike
Though I can’t use the faster speeds unfortunately
twin dew
So if not needing more than 32GB of RAM regularly, then dropping that single 8GB stick would really be good idea.
pure karma
im over here looking for something that dosent exist
onyx pike
Got 3 in rn, the 32 GB are rated for max DDR4 speeds, the 8 GB is stuck at 2133
...
H170 Pro if that helps
languid gulch
DDR4 will drop its speed once you add in more than 2 sticks, sticking with 2 might let it jump up to 2400 or even 2666 unofficially
twin dew
DDR4 will drop its speed once you add in more than 2 sticks, sticking with 2 mig...
Not in this case.
As MB doesn't support memory frequency OC, and the CPU IMC maxes at that 2133MT/s.
onyx pike
So if not needing more than 32GB of RAM regularly, then dropping that single 8GB...
I do need more than 8 but less than 32
Rarely more than 16
languid gulch
Not in this case.
As MB doesn't support memory frequency OC, and the CPU IMC max...
ah didn't notice the mobo type.
onyx pike
Yeah it’s pretty old
twin dew
Intel long time segmentation thing.
Where lowest end chipset doesn't support RAM or CPU OC.
Middle one supports RAM, but not CPU.
And highest supporst both
onyx pike
The CPU is a non OC variant as well
languid gulch
been with AMD so long i've forgotten about Intel's little "fuck you" here & there with that
onyx pike
I want to get a 7 7800 X3D kit but GPU pairing would be difficult in this market
Also… I’m broke lol
onyx pike
Pretty much though it’s actually the next two months
languid gulch
australia?
onyx pike
Ideally I’d get a 7800 X3D, 32 GB RAM, and a 4080 Ti but that 4080 is gonna kill my budget
onyx pike
australia?
Nope, US
Scalpers are still employed unfortunately
onyx pike
Yeah XD
NVIDEA did not help by stopping production of the 40 series
A friend is likely going to sell me his PC in a few years when he doesn’t need it and it’s got a 3080 Ti in it
Also 64 GB of RAM that he uses for his “Skyrim mods”
twin dew
Yeah XD
NVIDEA did not help by stopping production of the 40 series
Why would they pay for any 40-series chips and not 50-series, when they come from the same wafer allocation from same production line?
onyx pike
Valid point I did not know that. It makes sense now but still kinda screws over the market when they showed up with single digit supplies at launch
languid gulch
at this point i'm just hoping i never run my gpu toasty enough to melt the connector
onyx pike
Valid point I did not know that. It makes sense now but still kinda screws over ...
Also a $2000 MSRP
onyx pike
at this point i'm just hoping i never run my gpu toasty enough to melt the conne...
What are you using rn?
languid gulch
strix 4090
onyx pike
Dang GG
languid gulch
raffle win pc
onyx pike
Real win right there nice one
languid gulch
lightning hit twice
onyx pike
You got a second one too?
languid gulch
first winner didn't respond to claim it, so i won on the redraw
onyx pike
Dangggg alright very lucky.
Now would you sell that to me for $399? You’d make a 100% profit LOL
languid gulch
🤣
onyx pike
Dangggg alright very lucky.
Now would you sell that to me for $399? You’d make ...
You’d be able to buy 1/4 of a GPU
languid gulch
all i've got as an official spare that i'd be willing to sell is an EVGA 1660
and i guess my 1700X
onyx pike
Still better than my 1070 lol
languid gulch
not really
onyx pike
Yeah very small performance gain, especially limited by CPU
languid gulch
6gb vram kinda hamstrung it
pure karma
does the ti even have 8GB?
languid gulch
it was decent at the time, but now it's definitely an emergency backup
pure karma
the super is 6GB too but is the Ti also handicapped
onyx pike
At least the 1070 had 8GB dang
onyx pike
Wasn’t there the 970 I think that had 4 GB fast ram then like 2 really slow GB?
languid gulch
one thing i dident get was the 11GB cards era
was it because of the notorious 1060 3gb bus size thing?
onyx pike
why 11 and not 12
Some sort of weird RAM kits they had idk
twin dew
Wasn’t there the 970 I think that had 4 GB fast ram then like 2 really slow GB?
3.5GB of fast, 0.5GB of slow.
languid gulch
ah right
onyx pike
Even worse than i thought dang
twin dew
Basically one channels RAM was 1GB, rest of the channels were 0.5GB each.
languid gulch
yeesh
that sounds like putting a Corvette rear tire on a civic & calling it a Corvette
onyx pike
3.5GB of fast, 0.5GB of slow.
Didn’t someone affix 6GB to it and it saw around a 40-50% performance increase? NVIDEA really screwed it over lmao
twin dew
No idea.
onyx pike
that sounds like putting a Corvette rear tire on a civic & calling it a Corvette
More like putting horse and buggy tires on a Cadillac because more VRAM would’ve given it much better performance
Wait didn’t whistlindiesel do that
twin dew
But with VRAM, at chip design stage you decide on specific number of memory controllers, to get certain amount of memory bandwidth.
And then populate those channels with some available VRAM chip size.
onyx pike
Wait didn’t whistlindiesel do that
And it worked too lmao
onyx pike
But with VRAM, at chip design stage you decide on specific number of memory cont...
So they should make a 5090 with 2 GB of VRAM
And sell it for $1200
twin dew
So that 1080 TI had 352 bit memory bus, so, 11x 32bit memory controller.
So 11x 1GB VRAM chips.
onyx pike
They should really make GPUs more moddable, ie upgradable VRAM slots
Sort of like laptop RAM, the small sticks
languid gulch
So that 1080 TI had 352 bit memory bus, so, 11x 32bit memory controller.
So 11x ...
seeing weird additions of binary hurts my brain
twin dew
GTX 970 had 224 bit memory bus, 7 memory controllers.
languid gulch
who do we smack for that
onyx pike
GTX 970 had 224 bit memory bus, 7 memory controllers.
How would someone be able to upgrade it with more RAM though
twin dew
Nvidia, the die had 8, but one was disabled in 970 while 980 had them all.
onyx pike
Oh ok that makes a lot more sense
Couldn’t they just have disabled the slow one instead though?
languid gulch
How would someone be able to upgrade it with more RAM though
upgradeable vram used to be a thing
twin dew
But for some weird marketing reason they wanted to get that 4GB of VRAM, so they did idiotic thing.
onyx pike
upgradeable vram used to be a thing
Guessing AMD? NVIDEA would never
twin dew
They didn't want to put out card with 3.5GB of VRAM, and band-aided in that extra 0.5GB.
onyx pike
An upgradable die would also be crazy cool
languid gulch
Guessing AMD? NVIDEA would never
neither 😛
onyx pike
They didn't want to put out card with 3.5GB of VRAM, and band-aided in that extr...
With only 3.5 GB it probably would’ve done better
twin dew
Guessing AMD? NVIDEA would never
Nvidia wasn't a thing back then.
Or 3D acceleration either.
Just 2D card, where you could put in more memory for higher resolutions.
onyx pike
Oh ok
twin dew
Probably 2MB by default and upgradeable to 4MB.
languid gulch
🤣 yea, 2d & 3d used to need separate cards
onyx pike
Much easier than when talking about high speed gigabytes of data
onyx pike
🤣 yea, 2d & 3d used to need separate cards
Now one card to rule them all
twin dew
Not going to see the memory amount from the markings.
onyx pike
The GPU, CPU, and RAM nations once lived in harmony. Then the APU nation attacked (M-series chips)
onyx pike
upgradeable vram used to be a thing
Made in china ofc
twin dew
Not going to see the memory amount from the markings.
As in could be seen, but not going to bother checking.
languid gulch
onyx pike
Real lmao
We should all put CPU air coolers on GPUs for cheap performance
Runs cooler too
onyx pike
Yeah those put out an insane amount of heat, would need an AIO
Dual AIOs on a PC? Lmao
twin dew
We should all put CPU air coolers on GPUs for cheap performance
And take all the expansion slots to do it?
languid gulch
i could do 5 rads in my case if i went batshit insane
onyx pike
And take all the expansion slots to do it?
What else are you going to use them for
Just get a mobo with WiFi and Bluetooth with everything you need, including M.2 expansion slots
onyx pike
i could do 5 rads in my case if i went batshit insane
One on top, one on bottom, one on left, one on right, where is 5?
languid gulch
One on top, one on bottom, one on left, one on right, where is 5?
top, front, side, bottom, 140 in rear
onyx pike
Also how would you have 5 things that would need a radiator you only have a CPU, GPU, and chipset
twin dew
And if the card maker was ready to do insane slot amount cooler, they could do it with current style, just thicker and less dense fins and get better performance?
onyx pike
And if the card maker was ready to do insane slot amount cooler, they could do i...
Astral 5090? 😅
It’s only 10 grand
languid gulch
oh people do crazier shit. there's just room for it if you really want a giant reservoirs
onyx pike
You should use a swimming pool as a reservoir and you would never need to actually cool the water
*As long as you live in a cooler area
languid gulch
first i'd need to spend like $75 getting a new front panel to go from glass to air
onyx pike
Just drop the case it’ll be free- no more glass and all air
languid gulch
this is why i have 0 interest in doing any of that 🤣
onyx pike
Lmao ok
languid gulch
i could, but i ain't about to
onyx pike
Should I liquid cool my i7-6700
I feel it could use the extra cooling (for reference it can’t even max out the stock intel cooler)
languid gulch
Should I liquid cool my i7-6700
if it was a 6700K it'd be fun to see how close you could get it to melt
onyx pike
It’s the non OC version 🥲
How much more performance can you get out of the OC version btw?
languid gulch
not much tbh
onyx pike
Oh ok
But it gets a lot hotter?
onyx pike
I have a 700 watt PSU I think it should be fine
languid gulch
definitely
onyx pike
But my money is probably better off saving up for a ryzen CPU 😅
Would need new Motherboard/CPU/RAM all at once
languid gulch
5600 is dirt cheap rn