#off-topic-tech

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night girder
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😂

crystal hound
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probably more economic than almost all gaming chairs

edgy hazel
dire igloo
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I would like to have a headrest that I can actually rest my head on

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And not an elongated backrest

crystal hound
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there are headrests? lol

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ah wait you mean the thing behind the head

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nvm lmao

dire igloo
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I got Colamy Atlas

twin dew
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That used model I got, makers pic, still in production:
Just in dark blue:

dire igloo
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And even the headrest on my chair is borderline not far enough to the front

night girder
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I never use a headrest.

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No rest for the wicked.

crystal hound
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gotta do those neck exercises like F1 drivers 😉

wanton orchid
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the missing r&d is in the wheels

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like 95% chairs wheels are annoying and shit

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I suspect that breaks your back more btw, as you are constently trying to keep your chair in place

dire igloo
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German soldiers: "new pilot helmets are too heavy and unergonomic"
Bundeswehr: "here is some neck training gear, git gud lol"

charred pewter
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no no, it died ... resistors or something were wearing out and it was doing random crashes

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it was a damned fine card

crystal hound
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ah

charred pewter
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and i dont do 4k because my eyes can barely see 2k ... so 4k is lost on me (dont wanna lose fps for something i wont see in the first place)

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😄

charred pewter
twin dew
pure karma
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im kinda pushing mine at this point but yea 5 years of daily use is pretty good

tough owl
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Man discord on my pixel is struggling 💀

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Its so laggy

dire igloo
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Force close app

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Welcome to discord mobile

mental oriole
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It usually manages to crash itself when it needs to.

cinder moon
tough owl
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yea thats what i end up doing most of the time anyway. how is the app still so buggy 💀

twin dew
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Unity is cancelling that Runtime-fee, but I think it is way too late for that now 🤣

young canopy
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Installed Discord in my home directory.  Hopefully it will behave itself now.

charred pewter
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.... gave discord admin privs ... hopefully its fine now ...

young canopy
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No more systemwide installation of problematic programs.
If this doesn't work it's to AppImage, and then either FlatPak or Snap.

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Discord sucks. It's scripts run horribly out of control. I also need to clean up my firefox, settings, though. I think Firefox didn't consider having so many CPU cores at it's disposal, though.

young canopy
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On Linux, programs put under the user directory have LOWER priveledges than systemwide installs.  They are denied a HUGE list of priveledges that require the package manager to set.

charred pewter
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😄 chmod 777 discord

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fun

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actually that wont do anything ...

young canopy
charred pewter
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chown -R discord.discord /* 😄

young canopy
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It will let anyone, including, dangerously, "nobody" edit it.

charred pewter
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sometimes ... sometimes ...

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nobody is fun

young canopy
young canopy
charred pewter
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its owner/group/nobody ... ? or is it owner/group/everyone ?

young canopy
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Elevate Nobody's authority to root, and suddenly all those highly vulnerable programs that are isolated by running as nobody, can access everything. Fortunately, it takes root to do this, and nobody is now on a reserved UID that most systems prevent from gaining authority.

young canopy
charred pewter
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ah

young canopy
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On high security systems.  On other systems, they just have no access to anything that is not granted to everyone.

charred pewter
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yeah my brain didnt just swirl there

young canopy
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Discord is still randomly resetting.

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But at least it's not randomly freezing.

gilded helm
young canopy
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It's worse in my browser.   Earlier today it crashed firefox by making it start chewing up 100% on 8 of my 12 cores.

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That was with full memory cycling skipping cache somehow, so it basically nearly ground my computer to a halt.

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I need to check my browser settings, because it shouldn't be able to do that.

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I should say reset my browser settings.  I may also have to turn off stuff like WebGL.

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WebGL is rife with abuse. They need to install quota limiters into it.

gilded helm
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I think discord has become a developer that's content to just let everything in their apps run out of control, as long as it can temporarily be fixed by a user restart. Which unfortunately seems to be a common trend these days.

tough owl
young canopy
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It seems Satisfactory and Kithack are the only two games that effectively use 600% of one core's processor usage without being out of control.  The games are just that efficiently written.

gilded helm
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But stickers!

young canopy
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Coffee Stain's got their best team on Satisfactory, and Harvester and Crew at Floating Origin are geniuses.

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Literally ever minute the app restarts now.

tough owl
young canopy
tough owl
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Having a good app where people wanna spend more time in it also makes them more money

young canopy
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However, they aren't perfect.

tough owl
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yea lemme use the webapp on mobile

young canopy
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I hate to tell you, most mobile apps just use the crappy HTML widget to load the webapp.  I'm serious.

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They do this in a manner that boosts authority and opens vulnerabilities.

tough owl
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Oh I'm aware

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But discord app on Android isn't AFAIK

young canopy
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Hence, yes, use the webapp on mobile is GOOD idea.

tough owl
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And certainly isn't on IOS. Apple hates that stuff

gilded helm
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I'm a big fan of browser-based versions of things on mobile, but Discord isn't one. The last time I checked F-Droid there was nothing good.

willow pike
tough owl
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Which I've never had issues with the iOS app. But the Android app I have had issues with. Especially recently

gilded helm
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Browser based YouTube is probably my heaviest usage over an app.

young canopy
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Contrary, on iOS Apple MAKES companies do that. You literally are not allowed to add a replacement HTML or XML viewer. Discord for iOS absolutely uses the Safari webview component, it is mandated by Apple.   Even Firefox for iOS uses it.

tough owl
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Huh

young canopy
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However, Apple DOES make developers go through and train a persistant cache list, persistant connection list, and a certificate list. It makes the app a TINY bit faster than just using Safari.

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Firefox made a whole big blog post about how they couldn't use their own HTML renderer or HTTP stack, and they basically had to make a retuned version of Safari with Apple's stupid plugins removed for their iOS version.

willow pike
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not gonna be the case for long in the eu

young canopy
willow pike
gilded helm
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Just switched one more family member over to USBC, thanks Europe!

tough owl
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All of my family except one is on USB-C

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Except for BT earbuds (AirPods 🤢)

gilded helm
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Pleased with my 9 Pro XL.

mental oriole
tough owl
worldly canyon
gilded helm
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Not really. I got mine for "free" from an AT&t special. If you're on a 7 Pro that has reasonable thermals, I'd stay put.

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Power button on my V60 broke, and my 7 Pro had awful thermals.

young canopy
# willow pike https://tenor.com/view/aet-gif-21304066

We can also thank California for some of these things too.

California is the only region of the US both large enough and willing to stand up to corporations to pass laws that many corporations will enact worldwide to prevent juristiction specific design and behavior.

mental oriole
young canopy
# mental oriole As long you dont chmod 777 -R /

That would need to be -R.   chmod 777 on a directory just lets users create files and folders including exectuable ones there.  It has no effect on subdirectories in Posix systems (unlike Windows systems that use Directory Inheritance Default.)

mental oriole
tough owl
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Recursive baby

young canopy
# mental oriole We broke a machine at work doing this 😄

CHMOD -R 777 / is hell on a machine that isn't suppose to have it.

Not only are there security concerns.   There are many special cases where the X bit must be disabled for a file to be handled properly. For instance, many programs will change how they accept a file if the X bit is enabled.

gilded helm
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Assuming AT&t doesn't do something to drive everyone on my plan off, ask me about the pixel 11 series, which is when I can upgrade again.

young canopy
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Heck, AT&T tends to do stuff to drive off customers, just because.   I remember when they refused to let me upgrade my phone because I had no credit, despite paying my bill on time for 5 years. Well, that was goodbye.   I have heard of countless other garbage actions by them since then, each worse than the last.

gilded helm
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The no credit thing is awful. The amount of places that check your credit score in the USA is nuts. And it punishes responsible people with a 'thin file.'

tough owl
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I love hard credit pulls too 😍

young canopy
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Mind while I hate on Capital one a bit.

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I wish we could all switch to credit unions and this exploitive credit system would end. However, Congress won't even let any credit unions let anyone apply to them. They must impose some sort of restriction as to enrollment to even exist.

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This is like Mutual-Run HMOs health plans are illegal.  God forbid if people gather together and do things without the help of Wall Street.

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I understand making the Mutual-Run ones get a catestrophic coverage from a "too big to fail" firm to cover them in case everyone gets cancer or something.

gilded helm
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I hate to admit it, but I'm part of the problem by supporting the existing system. I'm all about that r/churning.

young canopy
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But otherwise, how can it be legal to mandate that someone scrapes profit off of every little thing in your life.   I know, I must be a big commie for thinking this.

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Literally, both the solutions I proposed are An-Com/Lib-Com sollutions (as opposed to Auth-Com of Stalin and Mao.)

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But, enough about economics before it gets partisan-political.   After all, economics is well and good, but it can get political.

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Once you break into government solutions and who should implement them and how, THAT is political teritory, BTW.

gilded helm
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There was some momentum for an overhaul after Equifax, but it went nowhere.

young canopy
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Honestly, the fair credit reporting act has made DRASTIC improvements if you know how to handle it.   Because of it, we cleaned up a mess on my wife's credit report due to identity theft.

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Prior to the fair credit reporting act we would have had to take each of the credit reporters to court individually, and spent hundreds of thousands of dollars, all because the military released an uncensored list of the social security numbers, names and dates of births of people who were born at military hospitals to a FOIA request.

YES, that happened.  There are countless clearly public information things censored, but they went and gave out personally identifiable information to every child of a military family for a period of a few decades.

gilded helm
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That's true. I got a bunch of bogus addresses removed from my credit reports recently. But it was also so easy that I can see how criminals could take advantage of inactive persons.

edgy hazel
young canopy
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Anyhow the other web sites and their related apps that are horrible are Facebook and "The Dead Bird Site"

pure karma
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i hate laptops so much

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this basically sums up my entire week so far

young canopy
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I mean, other than Apple.

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(Couldn't resist the apple joke.  Mac have their uses.  Need a good no-worry office computer, they are good. Want something expandable and fun, sorry, wrong brand.   Opposite of the Apple II.)

pure karma
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i hate linux even more from a OS convinience perspective rather that a corporate garbage perspective

young canopy
languid gulch
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so that spacewalk was interesting

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reminded me of some of the old gemini films before people knew how to move in space

tough owl
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Horizontal phone launcher feels so weird

night girder
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This if off-topic-tech 😦

edgy hazel
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Yeah we know that

night girder
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Someone posted. But got deleted.

edgy hazel
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#riptechtalk

crystal hound
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open for suggestions

edgy hazel
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Also it's my birthday

crystal hound
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Congrats 🙂 all the best

edgy hazel
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Thank you munin

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Why are you raccoon

crystal hound
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like them

edgy hazel
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🦝

crystal hound
edgy hazel
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Furry confirmed

crystal hound
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no thanks

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anyway

edgy hazel
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Too late sorry

crystal hound
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we should get back to the TECH

edgy hazel
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Hacking

night girder
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gratz herg

edgy hazel
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I'm 26 now

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Too old. Knees hurt

night girder
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Ah, young flower 😂

edgy hazel
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Let me guess. You're 27

night girder
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No

edgy hazel
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84

pure karma
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36?

edgy hazel
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I am not a young flower. My petals are wilting, but my roots run deep, and my stem stands strong. Though the bloom may fade, the essence of my being remains resilient, nourished by the wisdom of seasons past

crystal hound
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lol

pure karma
night girder
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It's funny how if people have technical issues, I just direct them to Baldur 😂

pure karma
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well who wouldent

night girder
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or a topic/thread he is active in.

pure karma
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the only time he isent usefull is when he is talking in language i cant even understand

night girder
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CSS should consider hiring him as support

edgy hazel
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I like baldur. But on topics he doesn't have experience on, he seems to just be a google machine

pure karma
night girder
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Yeah, but afaik, not getting paid?

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It's a full time job atm 😂

pure karma
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dont know but yea defedently

night girder
pure karma
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he should reach out

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hes got the commitment so why not

edgy hazel
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Are mods in here getting paid?

crystal hound
pure karma
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dont know maybe ask munin

edgy hazel
jagged snow
night girder
jagged snow
pure karma
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im guessing its just a lot of basic questions and people not listening?

crystal hound
pure karma
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based off of how launch day went

jagged snow
crystal hound
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maybe I can fix that in the future

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sometime after release

jagged snow
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They haven't given out pioneer roles in a long time lol

crystal hound
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yep

edgy hazel
pure karma
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what were the pioneer roles even given out for

jagged snow
crystal hound
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LP isnt given out anymore, Pioneer like .. be an oustanding community member for a long time

jagged snow
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I am now

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Iirc I have like 20k messages in q&h

edgy hazel
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Give me the birthday-boy role

pure karma
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i am now because the normal satisfactory chat is lame and often hard to keep up with

crystal hound
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LP = OG high contributors

jagged snow
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Yeah

pure karma
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only time the server is really useable is during experimental periods

jagged snow
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And I wasn't quite og
Started doing q&h in early u3 iirc

stuck nebula
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Ay it seems that they silently upgraded all upscalers ( DLSS 3.7) (XeSS 1.4) But i can't seem to verify the version of FSR 3.X(it probably is 3.0),
Is anyone more skilled able to check it, if it's possible?

crystal hound
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in any case, I'm aware of the issue. will talk to Snutt sometime after 1.0 has worn off. you gotta get some reward 🙂

edgy hazel
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So only blue names for non-offtopic guys?

stuck nebula
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ah god damnit, if it was 3.1 it would be possible to create DLSS Framegen mod for nvidia gpus

edgy hazel
jagged snow
crystal hound
night girder
night girder
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We do our part too hehe

pure karma
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rip

jagged snow
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Maybe I go back to q&h when I'm not working 80 hour weeks
But right now it's untenable

crystal hound
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something like "regular" on other servers

night girder
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vote munin for president!

pure karma
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the IQRL Not less or Equal BSOD is a driver related crash right?

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if so then im stumped

midnight osprey
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not designed to run on windows

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I could NOT agree more, lol

trail wind
stuck nebula
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i managed to find some references either to FrameGen or Super Resolution in DLL files but i still can't be sure since i suck at coding, hopefully someone elses answers this tired_jace

tough owl
jagged snow
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With much suffering

tough owl
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SO and 80 hours has to be awful

jagged snow
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And I don't do it long term

tough owl
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at least thats true

jagged snow
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Really, it should be back down in the 40-50 range this week

tough owl
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im struggling with school full time, 20 hours work. and gf

crystal hound
jagged snow
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Well sorta

crystal hound
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figured

jagged snow
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Multiple jobs

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Freelance software dev, photographer, and I do event setup/strike

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And then also some volunteer work

crystal hound
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oh yeah that sounds like a lot 🙂

tough owl
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i need to find another job, preferablly freelance but idk if i can make it work

midnight osprey
edgy hazel
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I'm doing frontend ops as a backend ops guy. Kill me

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Leave me to my servers

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I hate people

tough owl
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you dont like html,ccs,js?!??!!/

edgy hazel
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I do operations brother

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Fuck programming

scarlet cave
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am I the only person with a AMD GPU that uses TSR instead of the AMD FSR as upscaling metheod?

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TSR I get around 55 FPS instead the 70 FPS I get with AMD FSR, but with the AMD one the fps drops to 30 every time I look around or move it is so laggy, and the TSR one it stays always at 55+- FPS

pure karma
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yea i use TSR too unless im having severe issue then il switch to DLSS but yea TSR is just goated

tough valley
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is that normal ??

jagged snow
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Idk, fsr 3 is outstanding

tough valley
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My AVG detect the exec as a virus "IDP generic"

jagged snow
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Yeah, you can safely ignore that

tough valley
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That's crap, it mean something is wrong with the patch ... never had to ignore such alert when it was in early access

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@proud meadow

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I'm probably not the only one, i'm passing you the informations so you know ^^

crystal hound
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it's a false-positive

tough valley
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I hope so but .. still a bit insecure x)

crystal hound
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Avast - like any other free AV - is terrible 😄

tough valley
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Never had problems with AVG, and avg is not avast x)

crystal hound
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... or any other generic AV. Anyway, you can safely ignore

crystal hound
charred pewter
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junky av programs

crystal hound
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Steam forums are also full of it 😄

charred pewter
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the free ones are not as useful as the built in one for windows... and the paid ones are the source of most virii to begin with so they stay in business 😉

crystal hound
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You don't even need a third party AV nowadays lol

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yeah 100%

charred pewter
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i mean i know its conspiracy thinking... but i swear it certainly seems that way

median jackal
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I've had avast since I bought this computer in 2018? It would feel weird to get rid of it now lol

stuck nebula
# scarlet cave am I the only person with a AMD GPU that uses TSR instead of the AMD FSR as upsc...

The thing is, TSR is bound to work better since it's a UE technology, developed by Epic Games, so it has a potential to be better optimized in this game. In my case FSR in 1.0 version gives the best result in terms of performance but the problem with FSR in general, developers implement it really bad(probably due to bad guidelines of AMD) and this has been improved so much with FSR 3.1

In conclusion TSR : Superior graphical quality with less performance
FSR 3 Okayish graphic quality with improved upscaler
FSR 3.1 Here things start to change, FSR 3.1 Offers so many quality changes that it makes the the API much easier to integrate into game engines, less artifacting, noising and top of all the most important part, Frame Gen technology of FSR 3.1 is compatible to work with any type of upscaler, as long fsr 3.1 is implemented into game engine which means that Frame gen of FSR 3.1 can also work with TSR

Nvidia, nvidia is nvidia, they are doing their own thing.

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that's why i got really confused to see FSR 3 naming in Satisfactory plugin dlls and logs

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but i couldn't find if its 3.0 or 3.1 yet

sage pier
# tough valley

Dont use avg this is how they stay in business. Its scareware not an av use windows defender

young canopy
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The improvement of hashing algorithms and change of file detection has made Windows Defender far better over time and made it the lightest personal Anti-Virus solution.

For Medium Business or larger, including small ISP, I would recommend Cisco AntiVirus, BTW.

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ClamAV is good for scanning individual suspect files, something Windows Defender is deficient at.

twin dew
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Been doing that for all UE5 games with that same IDP.Generic (IDentity Protection - Generic heurestic detection) for at least a year.
And just play whack-a-mole with whitelisting, instead of fixing the detection.

edgy hazel
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Me:
Pink Out of office status
Last seen 15 hours ago
"I'm off today and will be back tomorrow"

Them:
"Hey can we do it now?"

edgy hazel
soft bloom
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Is it a good idea to try setup whatever thing with contact for- liquid electronic thermometers with Raspberry Pi 3?
Goal is to log temperature in a couple liquids simultaneously

mental oriole
# edgy hazel

Still sad ms removed their unofficial emoji (rip ninjacat)

twin dew
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So that they can be connected to the Pi.
Whether USB, I2C, SPI etc.

dire igloo
mental oriole
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Doubt it could do this. ninjacat

dire igloo
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Yup, can't. No combos available with the Ninja emoji

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The combos are cool tho

pure karma
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dang some of these are fire

dire igloo
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Sadly a lot of them are super lame

pure karma
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i dont have GBoard but i might have to check it out because some of these are pretty cool

full hornet
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fireworker, would you be ok when in add some of them to non-commercial projects? (ofc giving credit like fireworker2000okTurtle, fireworker2000tigerFriends ...)

dire igloo
full hornet
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yeah. still it's such a neat idea and i felt asking upfront wouldn't hurt 🙂 thanks!!

dire igloo
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you can play around with it yourself, it's a cool feature

night girder
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wtf is going

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in tech channel 😭

crystal hound
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emojis are big tech :p

night girder
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no, just big.

pure karma
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you could argue its media but honestly tech goes off topic a bit fairly often so this is nothing out the ordinary

night girder
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It is.

dire igloo
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it's a software feature in a keyboard application, it's tech

night girder
dire igloo
livid sandal
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ugh. for Epic Games launcher. tried the "clear window temp folder" but it's still giving 2502/2503 error and every ||goddamn|| other solution is in a video. i want it in text form 😠

opal sand
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Hey!! obviously this is an out of game issue but an app won't let me jump while running, when i press shift+w and then try to jump this HUD to select special characters appears on top of my desktop. i don't want to change the in game keybindings, i want to close that app but i don't know which one it is. Sorry for the photo, i can't make a screenshot because the keybinding doesn't allow me.

soft bloom
twin dew
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So you either get sensors that already are using one of the supported bus formats, or you get suitable converters that do the ADC conversion and output via suitable bus.

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And USB is USB, and the pin-header has at least SPI and I2C available.

visual tree
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Lmao, this is how a local post here deals with packages that missed the deadline

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I have no problems with shipping delays due to labor shortage but local post lying to amazon that my address is incorrect or unknown is just disgrace evildoggo

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And now I am probably going to have problems with Amazon refund since they will claim package couldn't be delivered due to incorrect address which is not the case....

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Also, amazon said I should contact the post. I have been waiting for more than 40 minutes on the line and I couldn't get anyone not to mention they reply to emails after 30 days on average....

jagged snow
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Yikes, that's a fun scenario

visual tree
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Guess I'll have to visit a post office tomorrow in order to check if the address is actually "incorrect" or they just faked the status in order to increase performance metrics and deceive Amazon as their delivery partner

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I have a solid proof for Amazon that I am telling the truth though so I can avoid potential refund complications in case package never arrives

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I ordered 3 products under the same order which were split into 2 packages, one package has arrived and the other hasn't because of "incorrect address". If the address was indeed wrong then none of the 2 packages would arrive

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Unless I am going to speak to Amazon AI assistant with inferior logic lol

languid gulch
visual tree
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The only problem is that I ordered the exact same product last month and Amazon lost the package (the package wasn't handed to the carrier yet). I got refunded and I ordered the same product again but hope the carrier won't lose or steal the package this time since I will have to ask for a refund again and Amazon might mark me as a dishonest customer who is trying to commit scam

rustic panther
wanton orchid
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from the same fucking order

visual tree
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What's even funnier is that I forwarded the package to a nearby locker as soon as I received a tracking link so the unknown address is simply impossible

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Unless the carrier couldn't find their own locker lol jacelul

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And that was a big mistake according to an online post from a former post employee since all packages that can't be delivered are automatically forwarded to a locker

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So you have to wait until there is enough space in a locker for your package

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Should have forwarded the package to a post office in the first place but I can still do it

wanton orchid
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for me it would just not let me push it to a "locker"

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and instead give it back to sender in an other country

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because why not

visual tree
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Things are going to turn really ugly here since there is only a single universal service provider for the postal services and it's already falling apart

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There are other delivery companies too but they are smaller and don't have the capacity to cover the whole country

jagged snow
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Gonna necro this, thanks for the recommendation

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For beta it's outstanding, and has feature parity with Gboard for everything that matters

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Autocorrect seems to be better than any other non Google keyboard I've tried

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I'm very curious to try out the voice typing

tough owl
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Its alright

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I use it while my hands are busy and it kinda doesn't like background noise.... Road noise...

visual tree
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@wanton orchid I just tricked the post and changed amazon shipping status lmao jacelul

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Redirected the package for the second time to a post office and now the amazon tracking status has changed from unknown address to "on the way but running late"

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The carrier is going to be so pissed because amazon now knows the package is late and they are going to penalize their delivery partner hehe

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That's what you get for faking tracking status and deceiving amazon!

wanton orchid
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for me it was already obvious as they delivered the first package of the order fine

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I was talking with the seller

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which then refunded me
now they will probably ask the service why did they felt like giving a world tour to their item

visual tree
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Yeah, they are going to have a problem trying to justify that lol

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Feels good though when the delivery company tries to screw the customer and you screw them back

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If you can't deliver package on time, simply forward it to a locker or post office. Don't fake the status and claim an address is unknown since the customer is then going to have problems with amazon refund later

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Since amazon can refuse the refund and claim they couldn't deliver the package because the address is "wrong" and it's your responsibility

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The only problem is if the delivery company fakes the status again....

night girder
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I know nobody is going to like this. And I wouldn't do it. But you can always seek legal advice.

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It's costly, but if you feel you are really in the right and you lost a lot of money because of lost packages, and Amazon is being stuborn/difficult.

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But I have a feeling Amazon has a pretty good legal defense in their TOS. Something like "We own your soul."

livid sandal
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"distracted driving"

visual tree
night girder
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Happy to hear that.

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I mean situation still sucks ofc, don't get me wrong.

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But atleast you lost no money.

visual tree
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Since this also gives the power to amazon and they can refuse refund under the excuse you added a wrong address and everything is your responsibility

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A refund or two won't hurt you but if the delivery company keeps doing this and also loses the package, you will keep asking for more and more refunds

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Which means amazon will flag you as a dishonest customer and close your account

livid sandal
visual tree
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Even if I do receive the package, I am still going to notify Amazon of their delivery partner shady practices

jagged snow
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They'll ignore it, just like reports of fake reviews and dangerous products

visual tree
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Just watched a video today from Louis Rossmann about that lol

livid sandal
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some people don't like his ranting though

languid gulch
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this was done inside a day

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i'm predicting an unofficial BG3 MMO soon 🤣

twin dew
#

With that CPU, Air for longevity of the cooler.
As it uses only about 50W in gaming and 80W in all-core max.
100W in LinPack.

twin dew
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GPU selection between Nvidia and AMD would be about if you care more about raster performance for price, or RT-performance and Nvidia software addons, or if you absolutely need CUDA etc.

twin dew
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And the delta between average and hotspot doesn't change between air and water.

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Currently at 60C on 7800X3D while playing satisfactory with NH-U14S.

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With the cooler fan at about 900 RPM.

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For hotspot.

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IOD is 50C stable.

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L3 is 43C stable.

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CPU cores are between 40 and 60C most of the time with very short spikes to 70C.

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Because of the thich IHS.

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And where that matters is higher powers.

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Not even top of the line.

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But completely suitable for CPU with less than 100W real max power.

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The things that matters are heat transfer from the IHS to the cooling fins, and then the cooling fin area.
The water is medium for the first, and what actually matters is the second.

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That with water cooling, you can have bigger cooling fin surface area.
And that water mass acts as a damper, making the temperature swing less.
IF the IHS wasn't the limiting factor for that on AM5.

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And that thick IHS is because AMD needed that for physical stability, to not get bent CPUs like Intel.
And then added less than 1mm extra to get to AM4 height.

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And that last 0.6-0.8mm didn't affect temperatures anymore.

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It isn't the water, it is the fin area that water cooling allows.
In the cases where that extra area is needed, because of the high thermal total load.

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I had custom water cooling loop before, to cool GPU silently in far back when the GPU stock coolers were noisy even at idle.
And to cool HD stack when they were inside noise dampening extra case.

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Bought it long time ago.
Not first computer I'm using it on.

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So Peerless Assassin 120 didn't even exist back then.

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And I don't think that is AM5?
Or is that at idle?

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And getting low idle isn't hard.
For that a 40C would normally have been weird.
But that now contains offset and isn't real temp.
For the base number, that CCD temp is correct, the CPU and CPU Diode temps contain offset to mimic AM4 CPUs for fan control.

wanton orchid
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I dont get your point Cat
ofcourse AIO works for these cpu
good Air coolers too
thick IHS combined with good heat pipes give enough thermal mass for it not to swing too much on cpu with tdp below 120W

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so you can run low rpm fan and have it stable enough still

soft bloom
twin dew
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Yes it is?
Uses 1-wire serial bus as the output?
And outputs 9, 10, 11 or 12 bit data.

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And is configurable over that same bus

soft bloom
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oh wait...

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ok

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i need to figure out how to connect a bunch of them to Pi

twin dew
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pinout.xyz/pinout/1_wire

Just connect all the 1-wire pins together and to the pi pin, give each sensor power and ground, and connect the same ground to Pi ground too.

twin dew
twin dew
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If wired to same bus.

soft bloom
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i get its time for me to pic a time and manual (text/video) to dive into that world since at-glance learning is not working here

twin dew
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Basically the various digital busses are way to connect multiple to same host more easily.
SPI is very simple bit banging type thing with separate selector wires for each device.
I2C is advanced pretty high-speed one with device addresses etc.
1-Wire slow speed I2C like thing over just one communication wire, instead of wire pair.

soft bloom
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i get questions like "how the heck will Pi understand which sensor is recording to where?"

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tbh Claude 3 made it seem too simple, haha. glad there are somewhat high level tools

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oh wait, that was gpt4mini

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Now to understand how that apraoch compares to using ADC

soft bloom
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if gpt didn't lie, i need just a bunch of sensors (they are really chip), a resistor, and wires.

twin dew
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Just said about options.

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That integrated sensors aren't ONLY option, and any analog sensor works with suitable converter.

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And just posted one page with one product and information as example.

twin dew
soft bloom
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(wait, they all connected in parallel?)

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well, dc power is for sure in parallel

twin dew
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Yes, that is point of such more complex buses with addresses.
That you just connect all the same type wires together.

soft bloom
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i need to know how that works 🙂

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i mean. curiosity

twin dew
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If string or tree is better depends on the exact bus.

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The host (Pi in this case) is the master.
Traffic happens with that resistor pulling the bus high by default and all the devices pulling it down to ground to do signal states when "talking".
The host sends request to specific device, which then answers.
And if two devices try to talk at same time, they notice that everything wasn't right because bus was still low when they weren't pulling it down.
Causing in I2C:s case the device with lowest address to have priority.

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As each transmission starts with the senders address.

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So high state is default via that resistor pullup, and means one of 1 or 0.
And then each device when trying to send pulls that common signal line down to ground, so that the voltage drops to near 0V for all devices, meaning the other one of 1 or 0.

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And then there is some mechanism to make sure only one device tries to transmit at once.

soft bloom
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yes... and i get that master can broadcast that it will read data, send adress, and device will respond

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but reset... happens to all. so kinda interesting how that gets resolved

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i took L by trying to make diagram for wires in draw.io 😦

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but i did it anyway

twin dew
soft bloom
#

Honestly, don't know if that will be more practical in terms of topology* (yeah, that's real stretch... Geometry? Spatial?)

#

Probably will need 2m wires for them anyway.
To have like a bunch of packages, sitting on a table, measured

twin dew
# soft bloom All 3 pins?

Power and ground almost never matter in how they are wired in topology.
And for this type of simple single-wire bus, daisy chain can be better than tree.

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Many need to specifically be daisy chains, with short limits on how long the wires from the main run can be to individual units.

soft bloom
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I meant like from the point of "i have a bunch of wires. Do i want them to be a star or a line(/loop?)"
There may be some more flexibility in a line, but in context of what i see, star seems more familiar)

edgy hazel
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Video ID guy asked me about my 3D printer I had running in the background. I have converted another one

dire igloo
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nice

twin dew
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Remember that you can often mix and match if the signal integrity isn't on the limit.

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But basic point was, wire as is best for the final installation.

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Where in some cases daisy chaining some of the sensors can help.

maiden coyote
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SPI also chains miso mosi together with a seperate cs (chip select) being pulled high to tell an ic when it's time to talk..

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I don't know shit about i2c

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I'm assuming you want an analog reading from the pi and not just a on or off which does put you more in arduino or esp32 land

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I'm guessing you're quickly becoming familiar with the difference between a microcontroller and a computer.. I had someone try to tell me the arduinos are many times faster than the 8088..

past quest
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I²C is SerialClock (SCL) and Serial Data (SDA), its a challenge - response communication system

languid gulch
#

The story of Don Pettit's first flight into space was wild, he only got the slot after another astronaut had to drop out because of medical conditions. He flew up on a space shuttle for a 4 month stay, but just before he was set to return the Columbia disaster grounded the shuttle fleet.
His ride home was a new upgraded Soyuz, one that had been ...

▶ Play video
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tl;dw

Don Pettit is a frickin Kerbal willing to kill himself for science

soft bloom
twin dew
#

And needs sensors that already output in digital, or separate converter in between.

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Temperature sensors in base form output some analog change.
Might work by the sensors resistance changing with temperature.
Or it outputting voltage natively etc.

And that is then converted into digital signal with ADC, either in the sensor itself like for the one you linked datasheet for, or via separate device.

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Technical details on what is happening when you read a temperature sensor for use in some kind of programmable chip.

soft bloom
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well, in my case, don't care much of what happens on the way. but solution with 1-wire seems simple enough to just go for it. now to order pin connectors for Pi, wires, some good way to reliably connect sensors to wires and keep it liquid-proof

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but they are also sold in enclosure with cable... of unspecified length haha

twin dew
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Because they will usually only come with something like 30cm-1m leads, that you then either cut shorter if needed or extend to wanted length.

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dire igloo
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Hell yeah

edgy hazel
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love it

dire igloo
#

Just started watching Putins Bären, god I love Simplicissimus's content quality

soft bloom
#

am i stupid, or this is single-wire ... wire?
arduino.ua/ prod2412-kabel-20awg-v-silikonovoi-izolyacii-50-sm-chernii

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well i'm 90% sure it is

twin dew
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20AWG size silicone insulated wire in 50cm cut pieces it seems
With picture of the whole roll and bad conversion from US AWG sizes to rest of the world mm^2 sizes.

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Ok, when you buy some you buy one string in 0.5m intervals.
So buying two would get you 1m of the stuff.

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With black wire insulation coloring.

soft bloom
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yeah. they comment i could get more if i ask for that.
but decided to pay lil extra for 3-wire cable. not much of a difference i guess

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what do i need to actually connect wires and resistor? i mean, of course i could just plug into breadboard, but considering that i plan to leave that setup unattended for days, i worry i need something better. but really i don't have experience with that

soft bloom
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ok honestly i didn't expect GPT to make such diagrams

Raspberry Pi          DS18B20
-----------------     -----------------
3.3V (Pin 1)  -----> VDD (Pin 1)
GND (Pin 6)   -----> GND (Pin 2)
GPIO4 (Pin 7) -----> DQ (Pin 3)
                  |
                  |
              [4.7kΩ]
                  |
                  |
              3.3V (Pin 1)

soft bloom
twin dew
#

Just soldering wires together is a thing?

soft bloom
# twin dew Solder?

still, i can't imagine how that will look like when a bunch (i plan of 6) sensors connected in either star or chain configuration.
if that's star - i need like some hub wire to connect al sensors?
if that's a chain - how do i connect each sensor to 2 wires? (rn i can only imagine soldering and insulating... wait,no. i can't insulate each wire individually with hot tub)

twin dew
#

Over the solder joins.
But there are also levered connection blocks etc.

soft bloom
#

shrink wrap, yes. oh, right . i can place tubes on sensor's pins

soft bloom
twin dew
#

Either the real deal or knockoffs.

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That Wago is the original manufacturer.

soft bloom
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i just realised that buying sensor in metal enclosure with 1m cable is cheaper than 1m of 3-wire cable

twin dew
#

Those lever thingies come up in at least up to 5 connections wide.
And depending on wire sizes you can put multiple into same slot.

soft bloom
#

economy is trange thing.
now breadboard is way cheaper than figuring out what kind of connection block will be good for those thing wires

wanton orchid
#

each slot is isolted on those I seen

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putting the 3 house wires in one block

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I like these thing much much more than the other leverless shit things

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it's small, it's reliable, and it's not breaking when reopned/closed

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easy to reuse

twin dew
#

Meant for single house AC wire per slot.

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One with suitable number of slots per phase or like.

#

Because the base type is 0.5mm^2 to 2.5mm^2 IIRC, and then there is another that is 1.5mm^2 to 4mm^2.
So in normal house wiring, only single wire can fit per slot.

#

With that type of one side connecting "teeth", you can only get reliable connection to single wire, or two if twisted together enough.

#

Even with three twisted together, one might be just pullable out.

#

But when used right, they are more reliable than soldering etc.

#

As they can take much more vibration etc. and the connection is forceful enough to be air-tight in the contact surface.

#

Not water-tight, but without electrolytic corrosion, it doesn't oxidize in the actual connection spot.

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But that kind of water sourced corrosion can start from next to and then spread to the actual connection surface.

tough owl
visual tree
#

Someone just made an app for buying surplus food from the supermarkets, restaurants, etc and they made a huge mistake tired_jace

#

They made a website in wordpress and somehow sent and email to all registered users with their username and link to setup wp password

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Which means someone is probably going to setup wordpress password in order to login to wordpress and wreck the website lol

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Nvm, they were fast enough and fixed the mistake before it was too late

dire igloo
#

Free advertising

soft bloom
twin dew
#

The version the pic is from is for anything from 0.2mm^2 to 4.0mm^2, AWG 24-AWG12.

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For solid and stranded, and then down to 0,14mm^2 for fine-stranded.

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There is metal spring in there that presses against the bottom when locked down and empty, and almost any strand thickness will push it up.

edgy hazel
#

Over here baking my plastic

soft bloom
edgy hazel
#

Its only 95C

soft bloom
edgy hazel
#

So its fine

maiden coyote
#

If it's elv stuff like arduino projects those are fine

twin dew
#

And quality ones from things like that are the thing to use.
And those are actually way better than any wirenut.

maiden coyote
#

That's news to me, they're still fine here, and if done properly they last a long time

edgy hazel
twin dew
#

UL Germany approval to 600V and 20A.

sage pier
edgy hazel
twin dew
#

Yeah, and seems I can head to bed already, no new "cannot run the game" cases in last 15 minutes.

sage pier
twin dew
#

Two that haven't been resolved but they are just weird.

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Been up to 00:00-01:00 all week.

sage pier
#

so its 00:00 for you rn?

twin dew
twin dew
sage pier
#

so we're 21 hours apart

#

good to know

#

so you're in Asia?

twin dew
#

Finland.

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So you are thinking in wrong direction.

edgy hazel
#

same thing tbh

twin dew
#

EEST right now, so UTC+3.

sharp compass
#

Whats a good cpu to pair with a gtx 1080 ti

edgy hazel
#

8600k

sage pier
#

Any cpu you can afford

wanton orchid
#

its highly context dependent

edgy hazel
wanton orchid
#

I would say from 3700x to 7900x

sage pier
#

realistically 5600/12400f

wanton orchid
#

the older it gets the more contextual it gets

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becauyse its less stable/compatible with whatever

sage pier
sharp compass
#

And the motherboard?

sage pier
sharp compass
#

12400f

sage pier
#

what country again?

sharp compass
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Poland

sage pier
#

or b760m pg riptide (ddr5 though)

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or B760M PG Lightning (ddr5 though)

sharp compass
#

Around 400 to 550 zł the first one

sage pier
#

or z690 pro rs

sage pier
sharp compass
#

Thing is it isnt for now

#

Im making a list of parts

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And how much it will approximately cost

sage pier
#

ok

sage pier
sharp compass
#

Thing is im aiming for around 2500 to 3000 zł for the build

#

And it is going to be used to play satisfactory

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So im open to any recommendations

dire igloo
wanton orchid
#

for satisfactory gtx1080ti will not be a major bottleneck it's still cpu mainly

sharp compass
#

So is the gtx 1080 ti perfect for the game at 60+ fps

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With the cpu and motherboard

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b660m pro, 12400f, gtx 1080 ti

mossy glade
#

got a few vms running jellyfin, truenas, adguard and AMP

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as well as some other random bits

tough owl
#

If I wanted to get into soldering what iron should I buy to get started?

edgy hazel
#

soldering or welding?

#

oh you mean a soldering iron

#

I thought you wanted recommendations on sheet metal first

tough owl
#

Nah I ain't gonna fab that much stuff

edgy hazel
#

I assume any 20$ amazon iron will work for getting started

tough owl
#

I mean probably but I don't wanna burn down my dorm

stray badger
edgy hazel
gilded helm
#

A soldering iron from Amazon isn't any higher risk to start a fire than any other random cheap stuff from Amazon. You'll be fine.

near veldt
#

What’s a used 3080 ti worth ? Going to sell my old one

edgy hazel
#

check ebay

grim panther
sage pier
quiet patio
#

Can anyone here grab me a link to the satisfactory modding discord server? Every time I try to use the link in the welcome channel it says the link is expired

jagged snow
#

It works for me

#

Just reload your discord client

#

That server is permalinked

#

So you'll get the same link from everywhere

quiet patio
#

I killed it in task manager and it did the same thing

#

However, I do remember at one point I was asking for help with modding the game back when I pirated the game so I'm kinda worried I might've been banned but I own a legit copy of the game now and can share my steam username if need be

jagged snow
#

Yeah, sounds like you were just banned 💀

quiet patio
#

Do you think you could help me get unbanned?

stray badger
#

Probably not

quiet patio
#

Well, do you know anything about fixing SMM finding 2 satisfactory installs pointing to folders that don't exist issue?

gilded helm
#

I don't really have any idea where to point you to, but you're in the off-topic section, this isn't likely the best place to ask. This is the places to talk about technology in a very proud sense, from computer hardware to space travel and medicine.

#

My best guess is that the mod author hasn't updated what you're using for 1.0

quiet patio
#

I did some steam black magic to downgrade to 0.8.3.3

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I'm not running 1.0

quiet patio
#

Nevermind I figured out an alternative

white kraken
quiet patio
soft bloom
#

Online store didn't have resistor...
So i guess i will check out local market

twin dew
#

Back to Wago marketing material for that 221 series:

#

Problem with wire nuts is that even when done properly, the conductor surfaces will oxidize with time and cause resistance to go up.
Because there isn't enough force to make the contact surfaces air-tight.

quiet patio
#

I never thought about that

twin dew
#

So not issue right away, but can come issue in 30-40 years IIRC.

quiet patio
#

Ah

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That's what I was about to ask

#

I'm sure the effect is more noticable on longer lengths of cable, considering all conductors do have a resistance even if it is very slight

twin dew
#

So basically only some kind of spring loaded contacts or crimps are used in anything needed long term reliability in vibration etc.
Static things can still use other techniques, but wirenut-type things and screw connectors have issues long-term.

wanton orchid
#

I think wirenuts also work better with bigger stiffer cables
they do not bend as much when you screw them in
= more pressure
but also means bad surface

quiet patio
#

I can see how that would create issues with cold creep, especially with softer conductors

wanton orchid
#

any soft conductor will bend overtime also

#

even if ignoring all other issues

quiet patio
#

This is true

wanton orchid
#

I think that's the main problem with basic screw systems

#

and then come ease of maintenance
for which wagos are great

twin dew
#

For large conductors, usually crimped on connector that then is bolted.
Up to that 6mm^2 (AWG 10 equivalent) those various spring contact blocks.

#

Often just ones where you just push the solid strand conductor in and you then need tool to remove.

#

And use crimped on sleeve for stranded conductors.

#

So basically all wall outlets, circuit breakers etc. now come with those push-in spring contacts.

#

In Finland.

quiet patio
#

Are the push in spring contacts better than a screw terminal?

twin dew
#

Much.
As the screw terminal
1: damages the wire
2: doesn't adjust to wire deformation over time
3: can back out over time from temperature changes etc.

#

That first can lead to the wire breaking next to the screw, and losing contact.

quiet patio
#

Most of the older electrician guys I know here in the states seem to have a disdain for those push in contact outlets

twin dew
#

Because in US you seem to have had horrible ones that didn't work properly.
And might have tried to use stranded wires without the crimped sleeves.

#

When the tech first came out, and it then left bad name.

quiet patio
#

I can see how that would give them a bad reputation

#

I suppose I wouldn't want to trust a "new and improved" product if it was a letdown after it promised so much

#

I would probably still be hesitant even if they did fix the issue

twin dew
#

Needs right kind of material for the spring parts, as otherwise they lose their shape and that spring force over time.

#

And those right kinds of copper/brass alloys are more expensive.

#

And might not have been even created at back then.

#

One from the bottom of the barrel supermarket ceiling light outlet.
Two wire positions for daisy chaining.

#

Plastic buttons on the cover that press through that center hole to push the springs back down to pull the wires out.

#

Or to ease installing.

#

The two parts are not right way around compared to each other.

#

Made mistake in positioning.

#

So the spring leafs will dig in if you try to pull out, not block while trying to install.

sullen sinew
#

Welp

#

Just bought some new PC parts

#

I couod have watitied but meh.
7800x3d, b670 movbo, 64gb ram, 3.5tb ssd, RTX4070 super and going in my bequiet ltd edi 381/2000 dark base pro 900

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to go with my VKB Evo sticks for SC

jagged snow
twin dew
# jagged snow

That one is bad contact from the main contacts based on the coloring locations.

#

The ones to the user plugged in plug.

jagged snow
#

It appeared that way

twin dew
#

What is the other side like?

jagged snow
#

Also singed near the push terminals

#

But that could be from the insulation getting hot

#

But crappy outlets in general can be quite a problem

#

And people tend to associate any problems with the newest change

twin dew
#

And the US sockets are notorious for deterioting in contact pressure over time and starting to burn from that.

jagged snow
#

Us sockets are notorious for being bad

#

Their best feature is that they teach through experience 💀

twin dew
#

I don't understand what can be so hard in getting two flat spring contacts to work for long time vs. those round ones...

jagged snow
#

I'm not sure

#

And to be fair, that receptacle is several decades old

#

I'm assuming that it's just manufacturers cheaping out

edgy hazel
#

@dire igloo shit I guess my package is lost

mental oriole
#

F

jagged snow
#

Late to the party, but just pick up a used hakko station

#

Buy a few new tips for it and you'll be good to go

tough owl
#

I'm busy 💀

dire igloo
lavish spruce
#

I think my 3rd party laptop charger is not quite up to the power requirements of my laptop for long Satisfactory sessions. Time to upgrade!

#

eventually I start getting on-screen "plugged in" and "on battery" notifications going back and forth once the charger gets hot enough

visual tree
#

Also noticed tracking info on amazon that is not available on my courier's website and the depot location makes no sense....

#

Btw, tried Kaiserschmarrn yesterday and it's awesome (not exactly a german dish but I read Bavarians like it)

edgy hazel
#

Its Austrian I think

#

But yes, Kaiserschmarn with hot vanilla sauce is what god eats every day

tough owl
#

Do they sell it kn the states

#

It sounds good

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#

Hello everyone!

I'm working on a project where I would like to gather all the data from the game Satisfactory (recipes, machines, resources, etc.) to reuse it for creating a website or another tool.

Does anyone know if there's an API, a file (JSON, CSV, or another format), or a way to easily extract this data? I'm looking for something comprehensive so I don't have to do it all manually if possible.

Thanks a lot for your help and suggestions!

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tough owl
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Rare Checkit W

edgy hazel
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It's a command

#

Its !ot

tough owl
#

I know

#

But the person who made it

visual tree
visual tree
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Just turned on a dehumidifier and it measured 80% humidity level 💀

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I have set mine to 50% as a target value

languid gulch
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HA

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humidity is quite high here right now at 33%

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in june/july it's down around 4% most of the time

tough owl
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Its 21% here

languid gulch
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it's also cooled off here & is only 35

jagged snow
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Its 16c here with 60% rh

tough owl
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Lucky

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Its 23c here

languid gulch
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we're borderline on finally not having a day over 100 (38C). if not, it'll be day 113 in a row

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we had a record 61 days (so far) over 110/43C. the normal for a year is 21 days

languid gulch
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and yes, it's been miserable, even by arizona standards

maiden coyote
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meh.. maybe pimox isn't that great..

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I need to replace my sick server though.. :/

tough owl
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rpi is a sick server

minor pawn
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does anyone here know if u can get replacment DACs from logitech

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cause mine doesn't get recognized by windows anymore no matter what i do

edgy hazel
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Depending. Do you still have warranty?

minor pawn
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We should but i can't find the papers

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and the logitech one expired 3 days ago

edgy hazel
languid gulch
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i'm shocked that a product barely outside warranty felt like dropping dead

edgy hazel
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That's what you get buying a DAC from the Broken-Headset-Company

minor pawn
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it also sucks they don't sell them sepretally

minor pawn
edgy hazel
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I've never seen a Logitech headset that wasn't broken

minor pawn
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can i just buy a third party one and have it work the same?

edgy hazel
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They deliver those with a pre-broken headstrap and flaking earcups

minor pawn
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what headset do you recommend?

edgy hazel
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None

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Headphones + external mic

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Headsets are 99% of the time trash

minor pawn
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but i don't really have the money to buy headphones + mic

edgy hazel
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You spend more on a quality headset that isn't shit.

minor pawn
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ow

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the problem is however i don't have enough space for an external mic

edgy hazel
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This and some good headphones (dt770s are on sale for 100$ sometimes) and you'll have a much better experience than the same money would ever buy you with a headset

minor pawn
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btw i kinda also just found out my headphone jack isn't picking up anything i put in it

edgy hazel
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Maybe just throw out everything and start new at this point

minor pawn
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its just a new laptop

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i found the problem but idk how to fix it

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it says not connected in the sound manager thing

soft bloom
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i'm stupido!
got breadboard where only 5 sockets are connected at a time 😦

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or am i dumb to not recognise how the are connected?

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and card reader on notebook works about as reliable as '123' password. i can't burn sd card... that has EyesOS

vivid forge
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Anyone here have any experience with the 5950x? idk if im out of my mind, but my aio keeps reving when im in satisfactory ||(i know this is oftopic just using satisfactory as an example to where my cooler revs)|| so i checked my temps, im reaching 82-85C while playing, and idling now at 55c

is this normal?

twin dew
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Probably broken AIO that has lost too much fluid for your radiator orientation.

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Or is clogged internally from gunk buildup.

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The radiator exit hose needs to be at lowest point of the radiator, not highest.

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Most people installing AIO into front will put it wrong way around with hoses at top.

soft bloom
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did i fuck up?
was trying to make bit longer exposed part of the ground wire on one of the sensors - in attempt to remove more insulation i cut some away
and with next attempt i exposed copper thin wires... instead of solid grey wire...

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and now that wires are of different length - they natureally keep ground away from socket

twin dew
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Just soldered end originally.

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So no, just oxidation protection with solder.

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And to make the end more solid.

vivid forge
twin dew
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Or just bad pasting after that cleanup?

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But I was talking about internal clogging.

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Not the radiator getting clogged with dust.

vivid forge
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ah, that might be, it is 4 years after all

twin dew
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Many of the AIOs have had issues with the fluid reacting with the other internal surfaces and clogging the microfins in CPU block.

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Which is why expected lifespan for AIO has only been 2-3 years.

vivid forge
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im actually considering buying a new cooler, but not an aio

twin dew
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Getting better with quality new ones.

vivid forge
twin dew
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If the CPU can be cooled with air cooler, yes.

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AIO is about getting better performance than can be gotten in air cooler size.
But come with those caveats about longevity.
And then custom loops for hobby work.

soft bloom
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i connected 2 rows with paper clip cuse... why not? 🙂

twin dew
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Not really.
As that solder is bad idea in general.

soft bloom
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you say its better to, fo example wire-nut the copper wires?

twin dew
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Never even try wirenut wires that have solder on them.

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Mainly for push-in connectors in place of crimp sleeve, and even then a bad idea.

soft bloom
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Well, they look like this, as arrived.
But that grey wire is short and there are thin copper wires next.

twin dew
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Yes, I know.
Many makers pre-solder the ends.
Or tin them, but not rest of the wires.

soft bloom
twin dew
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So solder, just remove those from all of them if there will be any kind of vibration once installed.

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Otherwise they will break where the solder ends.

soft bloom
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So you say there's solder inside and i should remove these ends and when using wire nuts connect copper ends?
Or find lever thingies

twin dew
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Yes.

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That silver surface is solder

soft bloom
twin dew
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And it ends few mm. inside the insulation.

soft bloom
twin dew
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How far depends on how adding the solder was done.

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It can also be tinning, but in that case the color is little different and it isn't "lumpy" like in those.

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And usually then the whole cable is tinned before insulation is added.

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Basically only case where that preapplied solder is useful is when you solder solder the wires to another wire or PCB.
And even then you need to be using same type of solder or you get issues.

soft bloom
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oconsidering that i bought six sensors with 1m cables, i might also need to extend theor cables. so connecting it all for longer use will be fuuuun. for now just nede to test measurement with breadboard.
but noted that that's solder and i probbly will need to remove it

edgy hazel
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New text channel soon!
#ask-baldur

minor pawn
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okay so the dongle now works sometimes but the second i touch the part where you plug the headset in it breaks

soft bloom
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yes

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i made the setup, but sensors not detected...

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and Haiku tells me it's not OK to have just 3V on data line at rest

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yep, 1-wire is enabled in the config and modules

twin dew
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Try with just one sensor first?

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And the resistor is in place?

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And the data line is expected to idle high.

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As that resistor is pulling it up, and only when there is traffic does one of the devices at a time communicate by pulling it low.

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And those low periods are so short that you need oscilloscope to see them.

jagged snow
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Also referred to as active low

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Just in case you need to do more research

twin dew
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Doing it that way prevents damage if multiple devices by accident try to communicate at same time.

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The passive pull-up and active pull-down.

twin dew
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With just one sensor connected, easier to do and test first.

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Seems the overlays and drivers do that automatically.

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And so also activate the bus clock, in which case the voltage woulnd't be static 3.3V while unused.

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As the driver is constantly using the bus.

soft bloom
soft bloom
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tl;dr
i should have used GPIO 4 from the beginning

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pinout.xyz/pinout/1_wire

twin dew
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Yeah, like I pasted long time ago.

soft bloom
twin dew
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First Pi specific, but not whitelisted domain, then general about the 1-wire.

soft bloom
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so, it works.
i marked sensor's wires with their hashes
now to prettify script that logs it

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i wanted to use other pin because that makes wires stand together.
changing pin to default fixed voltage

twin dew
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Yeah, you would need to specify the pin for the driver and overlay if you want to change it.
And might not be possible to all of them.

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Not sure if that 1-wire is hardware accelerated or not on that default pin.

soft bloom
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the code in Python is fairly simple though

twin dew
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Mainly it included the overlay and driver steps and how to check those etc.

soft bloom
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exactly

twin dew
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And not only the how to do it low level yourself.

pure karma
edgy hazel
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got a z flip 6 now

tough owl
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but why

edgy hazel
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flip

tough owl
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plastic screen

edgy hazel
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flip

soft bloom
edgy hazel
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No it's just backflips

soft bloom
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so you bought it back from they guy it flipped it to? well, that's new

soft bloom
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should i be concerned?

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also, readme on github is quite helpful

soft bloom
twin dew
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As for SPI and I2C there are HW accelerators, and only on specific pins.

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That the overlay allows for redefining the pin suggests that it is either pure software, or hardware accelerated on any pin.

sage pier
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should I use pgs?

soft bloom
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oh, the lib also features async interface. that's lovely

twin dew
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And even the overlay documentation doesn't specify any limitations on the GPIO used.
So you can just change it by giving the extra gpiopin=# parameter to the overlay in boot config.

soft bloom
twin dew
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So almost certainly just bit-banging, which is pretty easy to do at bus with max speed of just 16.3 kbit/s, and not expected to have stable clock signal frequency.

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No, there are some timing requirements.
The slave will read the signal state about 30 us after the signal line first falls down.
With officially 1 being 1-15us low pulse and 0 being 60us long low pulse.

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So 0.1MHz bit banging would work fine.

edgy hazel
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hihi

twin dew
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With 1MHz bit banging to get that 1us resolution.

visual tree
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My new combo receiver has arrived, it's the best tv/sat receiver I ever owned 😭

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It has multiboot: enigma2 os and define os

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And you can install other operating system too, including plugins

soft bloom
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i thought satelite is dead technology

visual tree
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It's still alive in Europe

soft bloom
visual tree
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We switched to T2 by late 2020. All tv's in the house are dvb-t so I had to buy receivers

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I think the newest tv model is from 2016 or 2018

split marsh
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Does anyone here know how to design an exosuit so that it works with the mechanics of a human body?

I can be trusted with CAD software

jagged snow
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That is an incredibly complex question with large volumes of ongoing research trying to awnser that question

languid gulch
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even nasa has never made one that works great

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like 80% of the injuries on the ISS are because the EVA gloves are shit

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what's really sad is that the apollo suits are all disintegrating, so museums won't have them for too much longer

night girder
soft bloom
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does water actually stay below air temperature or?..
i have consistent temperature difference for when probe is inside just water or dry outside nearby

twin dew
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Might be from the probe self-heating.

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On such active temperature sensor.

jagged snow
twin dew
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Any such sensor needs to be calibrated in the final installation location with more accurate temporary reference to get somewhat accurate results.

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At multiple temperatures if possible, as there can be both absolute offset and slope difference on per unit basis.

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If accurate absolute result is needed and not just monitoring changes.

soft bloom
soft bloom
soft bloom
jagged snow
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Yep

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It also depends on humidity of the surrounding environment

misty perch
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The passage of time

crystal hound
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please clean that thing lol

maiden coyote
night girder
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It doesn't look like dust but mold

soft bloom
soft bloom
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If i don't control environment inwhich temperature measurement happens (like, no AC), what can i do to collect enough data to mitigate possible changes?
So far i figured it makes sense to have sensor in room to measure ambient, and have "control" liquid that was stored in sme environment as PCMs i want to test. (Yes, multiple, since i played with recipe a bit)

visual tree
maiden coyote
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Jellyfin allows for tuners like the HDhomerun, but I've got no idea how the API for that function works

soft bloom
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looks like i'm going to need to plot derivates to udnerstand when/if there's real change

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and i need to think of better setup for setting 0 C since just mixing water around in narrow bowl with ice bottle is enough to show that sensors didn't have actaully same temperature to measure

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Also, either chatgpt is dumb at tasks of that complexity (more on that later; overall it was quite helpful and reliable), or Pandas doesn't have obvious ™️ functionality, or i tried to achieve rolling average of time series in a strange way. either, got a chunky function that just turns measurements from multiple sensors at somewhat random time into a smoothed values at concrete time points

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case when trying to do it "as lib wants" got worse (actually, not working) then just brute-forcing needed operations

mental oriole
twin dew
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And is just language model, it doesn't know anything.

soft bloom
twin dew
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Just word connections.

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Made based on that data.

night girder
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Wait. What?

soft bloom
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well, yes, exactly that. as i said - no RAGs involved

twin dew
# night girder Wait. What?

Language models like ChatGPT just work on probabilities that specific word follows another word in specific context.

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Which is the source of all the hallucinations.

night girder
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That's all fine. But still, it has "knowledge" or answers.

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How can something answer ... without having knowledge?

soft bloom
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and if model seen how to use .agg() a 100 times, there's high chance it will "know" how you want to use it.
and if it didn't have training data covering your case, you probably will get speculation or "hallucination"

twin dew
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But that isn't based on knowing what the .agg() does, just that it was often used in the context, if the context is detected right.

dire igloo
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Guess

soft bloom
twin dew
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Just tokens after tokens, no knowledge.

dire igloo
night girder
soft bloom
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but instead of pasting a paragraph on how LLMs work each time we talk about what it is familiar with, it's practical to use "knowledge" concept

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well, familiarity actually fits bets

night girder
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I wonder what is wrong with the word "knowledge".

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Knowledge... to know something?

soft bloom
night girder
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but honestly, I am not in the mood for an hours long discussion about grammar to conclude everyone is saying the same.

soft bloom
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i mean Bing's Copilot. not that one for coding

sage pier
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So, I'm trying to format my mp33 that I got for free with my 5700x3d and bios recognizes it and device manager recognizes it but disk management doesn't. What do I do? I've tried diskpart as well that didn't recognize it.

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I have the b550m ds3h ac do I need to enable my second m.2 slot or something?

soft bloom
night girder
soft bloom
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and Steve Mould butchered understand of LLMs in his recent video 😦

night girder
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You apply the same principles to AI than to a google search querry.

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You just don't take both of them as facts/truth.

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You still do your own research when in doubt. Think for yourself etc.

dire igloo
dire igloo
night girder
soft bloom
# night girder I mean, I don't mind LLM just answering.

Yes and no. there needs to be balance.
Because its rare to see LLM admit it doesn't "know" something.
And outside of scouting for new information, having conversation, i prefer reading source.
Even though everyone is so obsessed with morality of LLMs...

night girder
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Google: here is thousands and thousands of links. Have fun!

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AI: I aggregated "all" those links, and this is the summary.

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But you do you. I just don't see the harm in LLM just plain answering. Else where back to old school search engines.

twin dew
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With no idea how the "AI" aggregated those sources if there were links that included valid data and absolute crap.

soft bloom
night girder
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I am sure it will get better.

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Google wasn't perfect at the beginning either.

soft bloom
twin dew
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And LLM type "AI" models are not suitable for thing you ask for.
As they are just meant to create human made seeming text.
Not accurate text based on data.

night girder
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For now.

twin dew
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But this has gone on so many times, that I'm heading to bed.

night girder
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Who knows, once they get the human answering good enough. They can focus on more accurate answers.

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I love it, how 2-3 years ago, I had this whole chat against me because I was critical of AI.

soft bloom
night girder
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Now I am more open mined about AI. And people still pissing against my leg 😂

soft bloom
night girder
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AI generated images, AI generated music. Besides art, also AI generated code for development.

soft bloom
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well, time passed and we know that models training of models is basically inbreeding

mental oriole
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Idm ai, but you cant replace everything with it.

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Garbage in, garbage out.

night girder
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And it has to have a usecase!

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Like, I think AI might be good for mondane non critical tasks. Like subtitle creation.

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Or translation of languages.

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But I don't want AI in my car driving hehe

mental oriole
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Alternative to google is my use case.
And then its, give me an example to design/ implement X.

night girder
mental oriole
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But still have to read through.

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Because I only look for design points.

night girder
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Yes, as an AI language model, I have knowledge that has been acquired through my training on a large amount of text data. However, as an AI, my knowledge is limited to what I have been trained on, and I do not have the same depth of understanding or consciousness that a human would have.

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I like to ask AI questions about AI 😂

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And it's also fascinating how you get different answers depending on the AI.

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That answer was generated with Claude 3 Haiku. "Do you have knowledge?"

mental oriole
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XD

night girder
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Yes, I have access to a wide range of information and knowledge on various topics up until October 2023. I can provide information, answer questions, and assist with a variety of subjects. What would you like to know?