off-topic-tech

[twin dew]

The clash has been there for years, just that AMD was one or two steps behind in the numbers.

[wanton orchid]

and I hated that

[twin dew]

Each generation.

They just jumped one to be on same "series" as Intel once Intel releases 15th gen in less than 6 months,.

To not seem to be "behind".

Bigger Number Better! school of marketing.

[wanton orchid]

when so much people buy stuff just to brag yes

"hey mom I want a 9000 cpu"
"but we already have 9000 cpu at home"

[twin dew]

And time to see about recreating Pi 1 card on one of those new Samsung cards and ripping some of the "First Boot" stuff out before it is used...

Ah, no use, the non-package-installed stuff is already in the base image...

raspberrypi-sys-mods, not being packaged and added by the Debian people making the Pi images, just adding them as is...

Ok, that is available as package from archive.raspberrypi.org for the specific distro versions...
So I need to add that repo in with config to only pull that one file.

[wanton orchid]

Baldur
I wonder what you are doing else than testing lot of stuff

[twin dew]

Killing time?

[wanton orchid]

you seem to always be there testing stuff

[twin dew]

Just right now.

[wanton orchid]

well I can't afford any of that myself so I'm curious, that's all

[twin dew]

That new linux server has been in progress for two years from first part buys.

[wanton orchid]

I mean are you paid for that ?

[twin dew]

Nope

[wanton orchid]

then I don't know how

[twin dew]

Personal home projects.

[wanton orchid]

but that project is paying you then ?

[twin dew]

personal project, as in for myself for my own home use.

[wanton orchid]

So you got enough money for running all these test and kill time already

it's just that I wondered how you were able to do all these stuff

[twin dew]

By being extremely frugal?
And having time right now?

[wanton orchid]

I mean you still need backups even being frugal if you don't have other things you do that gives you money

So I guess you got backups in the first place then

[twin dew]

Do remember that vacations etc. do exist too.

[pure karma]

chocolate milk

also ai strikes again

[night girder]

The team enlisted and randomized 23 volunteers. Twelve participants wore parachutes while the other 11 donned backpacks that contained no parachutes. All 23 leapt from either a plane or a helicopter. The jumpers were assessed shortly after hitting the ground for death or major trauma, and most were reevaluated 30 days later.

The authors wrote, “We have performed the first randomized clinical trial evaluating the efficacy of parachutes for preventing death or major traumatic injury among individuals jumping from aircraft. Our groundbreaking study found no statistically significant difference in the primary outcome between the treatment and control arms.” Indeed, all members of both cohorts were fine.

The researchers further note, “A minor caveat to our findings is that the rate of the primary outcome was substantially lower in this study than was anticipated ... [subjects] could have been at lower risk of death or major trauma because they jumped from an average altitude of 0.6 m [just under 2 feet] on aircraft moving at an average of 0 km/h.” As the reader suspected, the aircraft were parked on the ground.

[dire igloo]

https://x.com/TeslaEnthusist/status/1814316942821355640

Parker (@TeslaEnthusist) on X

I can’t even open my fridge 😭

Twitter · Jul 19, 2024, 3:10 PM

[night girder]

So, if you look into the study from BMJ, i'ts way more nuanced.

[pure karma]

smart things are for dumb people

[pure karma]

well yea its more a bait article than anything

[night girder]

The researchers also said, “Opponents of evidence-based medicine have frequently argued that no one would perform a randomized trial of parachute use. We have shown this argument to be flawed, having conclusively shown that it is possible to randomize participants to jumping from an aircraft with versus without parachutes (albeit under limited and specific scenarios).”

By the way, no participants actually deployed their parachutes—if you throw around square yards of fabric and feet of strings, somebody could get hurt.

👆 It get's better, this was the point of the study 👆

[pure karma]

the 0.6M of altitude at 0KPH is the best bit honestly

[night girder]

So some scientists said: no one is crazy enough to do randomized parachute testing. Other scientists: challenge accepted.

[night girder]

They didn't even deploy their parachut, because at 0.6M the risks of injuring is too big 😂

But once again, we see that AI doesn't have a fucking clue about context 😂

[night girder]

Maybe AI should mention it too.

[visual tree]

Is it wrong if I use dell laptop AC adapter for charging my phone? In theory, usb-c uses usb pd to negotiate power but I already learned in life that theory doesn't necessarily apply to practice 😅

I hate annoying my coworker and borrowing his samsung charger lol

[wanton orchid]

ok so you do all of that as side work, then that's great
I was just curious because I want to know in what context one can be expected to do what kind of things
so I can better judge my own situation

[edgy hazel]

I never had an issue tbh

I constantly charge my phone using a macbook charger and at work I keep using the thunderbolt dock to charge it

Maybe don't use a sketchy brick

[stray badger]

I use a 65w for my phone and it just limits itself to 15w

[edgy hazel]

Yea

[visual tree]

Good to hear, my dell charger is also 65w

Glad I got 2 chargers when I received a new laptop recently so I can keep one in the office and the other one at home

Not sure if that's related to the pandemic and the fact people started working from home

[edgy hazel]

My nightstand phone charger is currently a 90W macbook brick lol

[visual tree]

My galaxy S9 is now more than 6 years old and it's still working without any issues

[edgy hazel]

S9 gang

[visual tree]

Guess I am very lucky to pick up a good series because manufacturers no longer want to produce phones that will last more than 3 years....

My mother also has S9 (bought 6 months or 1 year after mine) and it's working too

When my phone dies, I am very skeptical whatever phone I buy is going to last more than 4 years even with good care

[edgy hazel]

s9+ with lineage OS here. It's wonderful.

camera is still absolutely ok

Battery life too

[visual tree]

S9 camera is better than most phones today under €300 lol

[spiral island]

Lineage, eh? I was pretty salty when S9 got it, but S8 didn't (which I had)

Off by one generation, throw-away phone at that point

[edgy hazel]

Sadly lineageOS 20 is also the last one. But it still gets security updates which is nice

But android 13 is good enough tbh

[spiral island]

Yeah, I ditched Android since

Playing with different ROMs was pretty fun back in the day though

[edgy hazel]

switching ROMs is a nightmare when you use your phone for almost all 2FA

[spiral island]

Yeah, I wasn't back in the day

[tough owl]

graphene works fine when I have to use 2fa

[visual tree]

He is trolling though (or at least I hope he is)

[spiral island]

There's more of that

If you check his profile

Definitely fake, but a dedicated one

[charred pewter]

i like the added note an hour later "fired, totally unfair"

[visual tree]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AWSyA-aDHXA

Whoever is responsible at Crowdstrike is getting PIP'ed or fired

*most likely fired lol

[spiral island]

This is precisely why the "rolling" release model was invented

[night girder]

"Except one Samsung Galaxy running android 1.0" 😂

[visual tree]

If my memory serves me right, Galaxy series didn't exist when android 1.0 was released lol

[night girder]

Android 1.0 — 1.0 Release: September 23, 2008

Samsung Galaxy Release date 29 June 2009;

but it's possible I think since Android 1.1 released in February 9, 2009

[visual tree]

Looks like the first galaxy phone was running Android 1.5 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_(original)

[spiral island]

I had the second ever Galaxy phone, Galaxy Spica

[night girder]

You could still probably install 1.0 over it

[spiral island]

Man, what times those were

[night girder]

You know... for science or something 😂

[spiral island]

It was initially running 1.something, but got updated to 2.1

Ran like trash though

[visual tree]

It's sad how HTC made HTC Desire which was a very good and popular phone back in those days and now their phones are a joke

[spiral island]

HTC is but a shadow of its former self

Desire was so ahead of its time

[visual tree]

They should stick to VR and avoid making phones

[night girder]

I wonder if the foldables will become mainstream

[spiral island]

Maybe, given the majority prefers larger screens

They always go for the largest option

Look at how the small phones got completely phased out

Nobody's been buying those

[night girder]

Dunno... the MIX Flip doesn't look that big tbh.

[edgy hazel]

Xiaomi is great if you want ads in your calculator app

[night girder]

I am just a bit surprised by their designs. And I wonder if they use Leica glass for their cameras.

The mix is just a foldable phone with the screen reversed or something?

Or foldable in bi-directions.

[night girder]

Also, in a few years we might be saying this about Microsoft/Windows

[visual tree]

🤫 Don't give them any ideas lol

[night girder]

No, they are already doing experiments with ads everywhere so, they already have the idea 😦

They just testing the water to see how far they can go.

They added ads to window store searches and the windows menu afaik.

[visual tree]

I don't think I've spent more than 10 minutes on windows store in my entire life

[night girder]

So, that's an ad.

You don't even see that it's an add, so users will click it to see wtf it is, then Microsoft get's money for the one click.

[tough owl]

Yip

I love corporatism

[night girder]

If you ever meet Satya Narayana, tell him to stop this Kade.

[tough owl]

what if he were to go missing tomorrow

Police for the record this is a joke. I do not support actions like boeings

[night girder]

like falling out of a window with a bullet hole in his back and the cause of death is a heart attack?

[tough owl]

you know that's crazy

I was thinking more of Jack Ma stylen

[night girder]

Not familliar with Jack Ma

[dire igloo]

scroll down from the post
https://x.com/vinceflibustier/status/1814395720025419832

Vincent Flibustier 👽 (@vinceflibustier) on X

🔥 How I broke the internet today and what lessons can we learn from it? #Crowdstrike 🧐

Several things that make it a good fake that worked: 👇

1. No culprit named yet, I bring it on a platter, people like to have a culprit.
   2- The culprit seems completely stupid, he is proud

Twitter · Jul 19, 2024, 8:23 PM

[edgy hazel]

Jack ma off

[visual tree]

I wouldn't be surprised if ads become really aggressive in the next 15 years like the ones shown in Star Trek Picard:

[night girder]

www.theverge.com/2024/5/10/24153809/ea-in-game-ads-redux

tl;dr:

“As we start to build community and harness the power of community beyond the bounds of our games, how do we think about advertising as a growth driver in those types of experiences?” he asked.

[visual tree]

Lol, I missed the horns

[night girder]

I yet have to figure out, what that sentence trully means.

Also "he" is Andrew Wilson, CEO of EA.

How can advertising be a "growth driver" in "those types of experiences" (the power of community?)

[tough owl]

co-founder of Alibaba Group

[dire igloo]

ever heard a politician say hundreds of words without actually saying anything?
same shit goes for CEOs in press interviews

[night girder]

yeah exactly

[languid gulch]

i mean, just play an mmo to see the ad spam in games

[night girder]

I don't have ads in my MMO

[languid gulch]

mine has "internal" ads on almost every UI panel

[tough owl]

im so glad im not into MMOs

[languid gulch]

client login, character selection screen, guild, inventory, character bank, account bank

[night girder]

f2p mmo?

[languid gulch]

technically

[night girder]

yeah, I guessed so 😛

[languid gulch]

but they were the original masters of microtransactions, so much so that WB bought them just for the store IP

[night girder]

either ads/cash store = f2p. Or you pay monthly. Or you pay monthly and you have a cash store. And worst case scenario, also ads 😂

[languid gulch]

you've got completely free, which shoves you in a corner, you've got monthly sub, which gives you some stuff (but not expansions), and you've got both a cash & earned in-game currency that you can buy content with

and paying in gets rid of none of the ad stuff

[night girder]

GW2 is; you buy expansions or not. And there is a cash store. Besides that it's "free" *(base game is free afaik).

but it has no ads.

[languid gulch]

yea, the nickel & dime spam is very real with DDO

[night girder]

And there is no P2W either.

[languid gulch]

there's mild p2w, just not any "here, buy the newest best weapon" stuff

still gotta not have crap luck for that

[night girder]

you need a better mmo 😂

[languid gulch]

oh i've told everyone, devs included, that if i could transplant all my friends over to another, i'd do it tomorrow

it kinda reminds me of a no-p2p, D&D version of EVE, where if you know the right ways to get stuff, you don't have to sub to get it all

[night girder]

doesn't sound like a game for me 😛

[languid gulch]

probably not

i've been there a loooooooong time

[night girder]

I hate ads And cash stores most of cases.

[languid gulch]

and i have a couple others in case this one finally goes splat

oh yea the cash store stuff is just insulting

[night girder]

sometimes, I rather pay monthly tbh.

[languid gulch]

oh i don't even do that 🤣

[night girder]

To just have a non cash gameplay, meaning: no ads, no cash store, no extra money for upgrades or anything.

[languid gulch]

one of the gigantic insults in MMOs is how much they feel like charging for expansions

[night girder]

Just pay monthly, get updates and maybe buy an expansion.

But last I heard, even WoW, has a token shop now (cash shop?) and still monthly sub. Afaik.

[languid gulch]

i find it insulting that they like to ask full AAA game pricing for an "expansion" that's like 5% of the base game's size

if that

[night girder]

and sometimes with tons of bugs.

while the old content also still has bugs 😛

[languid gulch]

oh if you've got a DDO player complaining about bugs or lag in your game, it's got a serious problem

DDO has an infamous ladder bug, where you can stall at the bottom of it, and just bounce there. it's 100% inducable, everyone knows it, the devs ask us to file a bug report, and then do nothing about it

[night girder]

I do understand, that for an MMO, you need to keep providing content to keep playerbase. For that you need revenue, so a monthly subscription does make sense.

Or a cash store. But if I can choose between the two, I think I prefer pay monthly than the other options.

[languid gulch]

the company that runs DDO got a special award a couple years ago from massively.com with how shitty their expansions are

they decided to introduce a new thing they call a "mini expansion" that's the size of the old content that you could buy with in-game earned points, but make it a $$-only thing

like, at least $30

[night girder]

you sure it isn't also mining your PC?

[languid gulch]

so half a AAA game's cost while giving maybe 2 hours of content

oh no, their servers couldn't handle that

they're from 2010

and it shows

[gilded helm]

Don't you also play Ingress?

[languid gulch]

now, i wouldn't be surprised if they're getting their revenue from something like that on the side, and that's a major cause of the crippling lag

[tough owl]

is that first gen core series

[languid gulch]

pre

i looked it up because their downtime this week was 13 hours

the best case scenario is it being a 45nm 8 core Xeon at 2.27GHz

[tough owl]

probably core 2 quad extreme

[languid gulch]

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/46499/intel-xeon-processor-x7560-24m-cache-2-26-ghz-6-40-gt-s-intel-qpi.html

[tough owl]

I think that was a cpu

[tough owl]

ddr2?

[languid gulch]

and that's if the system is on intel

[night girder]

I am so happy with GW2 then, servers are pretty stable. Game is from 2012. So also 12 years old almost.

[languid gulch]

early ddr3

[night girder]

Still receives updates every two weeks. And expansions.

[languid gulch]

1066 MHz DDR3 🤣

they really need to just replace the whole game, but it's been limping along for so long now that i suspect that it's a spite product to stop wotc from making big money on licensing out for something new

[pure karma]

i still use a computer whit 800mhz ddr2

[languid gulch]

to run an mmo?

[pure karma]

no to run google at a high enough framerate to get my cousins to shut up about not having a computer

[languid gulch]

🤣

[pure karma]

8 gb of ddr2 800 holding on for deer life

honestly it has i think every computer building crime it could have

windows on a HDD ddr2 in 2024

has some random intel e series chip

[languid gulch]

i've got ya beat

[night girder]

what windows?

[pure karma]

10

[night girder]

Darn it, too good 😂

Should have had XP or something

[languid gulch]

had to help my aunt out last week who's on a 2010 HP with 4gb windows 7

[night girder]

that's better.

[languid gulch]

it was painful

[night girder]

was it dying?

[languid gulch]

it felt like it

she's a recent retiree used to a decent work pc, wondering why her home computer can't do more than 1 thing at a time

[night girder]

she too used to that work PC and now it's gone.

[pure karma]

it probably had it at some point

[night girder]

should tell/help her to upgrade.

[pure karma]

at the end of the day its older than me i just simply fixed it

[languid gulch]

i went into it blind, hoping that maybe i could do something to help, but the best i could tell her is that it's 14 years old & you've definitely gotten your money's worth out of it

spending a dime on something from 2 decades ago is just throwing money away

[night girder]

unless you are a collector

[languid gulch]

which i hate saying because i like to see hardware last and get upgraded over time, but i just couldn't recommend it for her

[night girder]

time to buy something new from scratch

[languid gulch]

yup

[night girder]

don't get her 13/14th gen intel 😂

[languid gulch]

oh hell no 🤣

which also means i won't be recommending anything from intel, cuz i ain't gonna jump back 3 generations for that

[night girder]

yeah, AMD or ARC.

[languid gulch]

that's like building with a 3600X

omg could you imagine if AMD had just overclocked the ever loving shit out of the 3600X & called it the 7600X and people were shocked that they'd melt

[night girder]

nah, AMD would never do something like that

[wanton orchid]

intelectual

[night girder]

you know who might do that? Users themselves 😂

[languid gulch]

which is fine, but they shouldn't be advertising as being capable of that out of the box

[languid gulch]

huh. just got an amazon delivery

wasn't listed to be here until monday, and i wrote it off until at least the next week because of the outages

[night girder]

there goes your luck

[languid gulch]

apparently god decided all my luck should go into batteries

[night girder]

you operate on batteries? 🤣

[languid gulch]

i wish it were that simple sometimes

nah, some of those tiny watch ones that no store ever seems to have the right ones of

[night girder]

started to play fo4 again, so now I have synths on my mind 😄

[night girder]

damn, I don't even have a watch. I just use my phone 😛

[languid gulch]

oh it's not even for a watch 🤣 just that size of battery

i have a teeny tiny flashlight that uses them, & it's on my keychain

[night girder]

sorry, that got lost in translation. My bad 😂

[languid gulch]

oh that was me not being clear about it, not you

[night girder]

I don't have a flashlight either, I also use my phone for that btw 🤣

[languid gulch]

yea, my phone works about 90% of the time for that, but there's that 10% where you don't want to drop your phone, or it won't fit

[night girder]

Oh I see, such situations only rarely happen to me

It's crazy how useful a phone has become and how much tools it replaces.

Watch, GPS/Compass, Torchlight, Camera, Phone, Calculator ...

[languid gulch]

it's so nice

[night girder]

the only thing it can't replace is my leatherman.

[languid gulch]

that & a ratcheting screwdriver will do most things

i still like some of my specialty tools tho

i think everyone should have a gear puller 🤣

[night girder]

Why would I ever use that? 😛

[languid gulch]

it's really good at yanking stuff straight out that's stuck

[night girder]

huh, so if my CPU is stuck I use that?

[languid gulch]

i mean, you'd wreck the board, but yes

i've used one for popping plastic covers off of pipes instead of cutting it off & screwing over whoever needs to work on it next

plus it's also a fun looking tool to hang on the wall and have people think it's some kind of medeival torture device for your sex dungeon

[night girder]

nice

[tough owl]

jfif

[languid gulch]

dammit

[night girder]

someone was quick

[tough owl]

im always quick

[languid gulch]

giggity

[tough owl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTeubeCIwRw they're doing what now

[jagged snow]

That's very interesting

I'm very curious how long intel was aware of this internally

It seems likely that they may have been aware of it early on and tried to keep it quiet until the next hype cycle so people would more or less forget about it

[charred pewter]

forget what?

[jagged snow]

Forget about the failing hardware

[maiden coyote]

Maybe, maybe not. I'd like to think if it was something as serious as a fab defect and they knew they would've delayed or not shipped the effected silicon.

[charred pewter]

i lucked out

this intel i have has been the most stable and solid running one ive bought yet

guess my 'next rig' will have to be amd

[maiden coyote]

If it's the oxidation theory, it's possible you might not have an issue for a random amount of time.

[charred pewter]

maybe if i never delid it ?

guessing its something more deeper in the silicon process though huh?

wont matter if you live in florida, or the desert... its just bad silicon and will 'just go bad'

[maiden coyote]

If that theory is correct yeah. I doubt even keeping your pc in an inert atmosphere of argon will stop it

[charred pewter]

bummer

[languid gulch]

it kinda reminds me of the Takata airbag problem, where the explosive charge would oxidize based on humidity, so if you were in baghdad or phoenix, you were kinda ok, but if you were in japan or hawaii you had a claymore in your face

it's interesting that the 13600K & KF are known to be affected

[tough owl]

not the 14600k?

I know someone with one and hes running it on a LP notcua cooler

[languid gulch]

the vid only talks about 13th gen

steve said it'll take $10k+ to send out CPUs to be investigated, with a 50% failure rate with trying to see if it's oxidation

[tough owl]

I feel like intel isnt going to say anything at all at this point

[twin dew]

How are hobbies and doing stuff at home for yourself "side jobs"?

[twin dew]

"Nice" on the possible manufacturing errors with vias contributing to accelerated degradation...

[twin dew]

*ooh* New stable BIOS for my AM5 board with 1.2.0.0a AGESA

Which should finally contain full ECC RAM support.

The basic support has been in for a long time, (correction working), but with no reporting and no tuning.

So off to update ->

[twin dew]

No, still no tuning options.

But hopefully the reporting works now, but would need to test later with Memtest.

[wanton orchid]

when you are doing far more, pulling actual work, and documenting it
I call that a job work
if it's your hobby then nice, but that's still more work than "due" to yourself directly speaking
it's valuable

i.e you call it project

[pure karma]

why would they

id much rather support a company that talks whit their product instead of being like oh were sorry even tho were not really every time they do some dumb crap

[twin dew]

Well, GN at least said that until Intel tells WTF is going on and gives guarantees on making this right to all affected, they will not recommend any Intel 13th or 14th gen CPUs in any case.

[languid gulch]

also recommending ways to keep the current CPUs some kind of viable, at least until a more permanent fix is in place

what's really disappointing, at least to me, is that this probably won't have any real effect on their market share

[twin dew]

And seems that newer Intel PCIe (not CNVi) m.2 WiFi cards cannot be used in AMD systems anymore...
AX200 should? work.
AX210 will error once per minute with "The network adapter has returned an invalid value to the driver."
BE-series will not work at all.

And Intel just blames anyone but themselves, as they seem to think that the PCIe slot must be specifically tuned for them, and not that their PCIe devices must follow the standard...

And the AX210 worked without that error in way older drivers, but those have big security issues in them.

Even the BE200 works in some very old AMD systems, but not on AM4 or AM5.

Completely prevents the system from booting.

Ok, that was only for some systems?
In others it just doesn't show up.

[twin dew]

Made support request to Asus, will see next week if the bottom tier peon can throw the request upwards or just state that the M.2 WiFi slot is just for the included AMD branded crap card.

For them to add support for the newer Intel WiFi cards to the Asus ProArt X670E-CREATOR WIFI for that slot.

And the BE200 works on Raspberry Pi 5 (but not on Pi 4).

[soft bloom]

true hero. also decrease in airlines accidents

[midnight osprey]

hey guys, something has driven me nuts for years ... when I type the mouse cursor never hides, even on fresh windows installations ... any idea what it could be?

[tough owl]

thats a thing?

[vagrant portal]

There is an option for this in the advanced mouse properties in Windows, "Pointer Options" and there is a checkbox "hide pointer while typing"

you can google something like "windows hide mouse cursor when typing"

[edgy hazel]

expecting people to google something before asking here is a tough ask my man

[vagrant portal]

I just want to help, like, sustainably.

[edgy hazel]

we been trying for years

[vagrant portal]

This is a good mindset I think.

[tough owl]

you should make a plugin for discord that auto generates AI responses

[edgy hazel]

that'd be self botting which is against TOS

[tough owl]

who said itd be a self bot on the official client

[vagrant portal]

Moreover, the more people rely on AI responses, the more they loose their problem solving thinking skills... I am not sure if this is, well, sustainable.

Although on the other hand, since each AI response is to be reviewed critically, it might also work in the opposing direction, but I might not be the right target audience for that statement. Reality could be disappointing.

[tough owl]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-reality-is-often-disappointing-stone-infinity-stone-gamora-gif-14046382

[midnight osprey]

nice idea but I have never changed that ... I have googled in the past with no success

[jagged snow]

It doesn't work for me either

[midnight osprey]

it's an annoying issue

[jagged snow]

I'm assuming that setting is just completely broken, strange

[midnight osprey]

I wonder if my mouse cursor size is related

I have large inverted so it's easy to find with a wee jiggle

[jagged snow]

Mine's on default

[midnight osprey]

yeah, doesn't work for me on default either

not such a silly question, eh? lol

for the record, this place is more reliable than even a fucking search engine, lol

gonna have to just get into the habit of moving the mouse cursor before starting to type

[vagrant portal]

Oh I see, I looked at it right now, too, and it works only in some cases for me, for example it works in the browser address bar but not in the windows search bar.

Can anyone confirm?

[midnight osprey]

mine is on all the damn time, lol

maybe I will build a macro to move my mouse to the centre of another screen

[vagrant portal]

Interesting... No idea, sorry.

[jagged snow]

Same behavior here

It doesn't hide for discord, but does for firefox

[vagrant portal]

Yes, it looks like it depends on the input windows for some reason.

Ah yeah it does not work in Chrome for me, haha, but in Firefox.

Maybe I should have mentioned the browser that I used

It works in the Windows notepad for me

That might be a clue

[midnight osprey]

very strange

when I type in notepad @vagrant portal my mouse cursor flickers

maybe something else is bringing it back

could it be an accessibility feature?

[vagrant portal]

When I move the mouse while I type it flickers, when the mouse is completely still, it does not. Does it flicker whenn you flip the mouse upside down?

On some materials, mouses don't stay still but have very tiny movement, for example on glass or reflective material this can happen

[midnight osprey]

yep

still flickers

so something must be turning off hidden feature

doesn't flicker anywhere else such as in discord

[visual tree]

Just received an uknown call on whatapp from Nigeria (didn't pick up). Must be that nigerian prince trying to transfer millions of dollars to my account lol 😂

[tough owl]

you gotta send me his number

i need the millions too

[visual tree]

[vagrant portal]

Interesting, I have no more ideas currently...

[midnight osprey]

me neither

[visual tree]

This got me thinking, I could earn money from scammers by using a premium-rate phone number like this guy did: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/08/cold-call-victim-forces-telemarketers-to-pay-him-by-using-premium-number/

[tough owl]

That's funny

[visual tree]

The only problem is that you need a lot of calls if you want to earn more than you pay montly for renting the phone number

Here, a premium-rate phone number costs around €15 per month and the average earning is €0,5 per minute

Guess you could earn money if you keep talking to the scammers longer

[vagrant portal]

One last silly question. Did you try turning it off and on again? So, the option and the computer? For the computer, please restart and not shutdown + start.
Then final idea that worked for some people, please google "Reducing the hardware acceleration system wide" there should be only one result, a microsoft support link that explains how to do it. "Step 3" it is called. Also expand the answers below, someone mentioned a Logitech specific setting.

[twin dew]

Well, depends if Windows Fast Startup is still enabled or not.

[vagrant portal]

Exactly that is why I wanted to be sure and asked for restart 😅

[midnight osprey]

I always restart without shutting down

I will try the hardware acceleration thing, thanks

[vagrant portal]

Okay good with the restart, just to mention it: with Windows Fast Startup / Hibernation disabled a shutdown also has the same effect then. I have it disabled since I once had CPU clock issues with it enabled.
Concerning the hardware acceleration, I don't know the side effects though, good luck!

[midnight osprey]

Thanks!

[vagrant portal]

OMG i just noticed the support article is for Windows XP

Forget that, damn.

[midnight osprey]

Haha

[vagrant portal]

Shame on me.

[midnight osprey]

lol

Maybe I can setup a macro to switch to a tiny mouse cursor when typing.

There must be a way.

https://tenor.com/view/bills-ugh-gif-9811803164280522639

[vagrant portal]

You could move it in the bottom lower edge

While typing

[midnight osprey]

Back to my original idea

We came full circle! lol

[vagrant portal]

I do it this way when I play games with a controller that show the mouse nevertheless

Yeah

[gilded helm]

With game devs needing to optimize for RTX 4060 and RX 7600 levels of performance for a while, my 3080 16GB laptop might be good for a long while, if I didn't love CPU heavy games so much.

I don't think I'll have anything that will tempt me to upgrade until CES 2027 or so. When presumably we'll have RTX 6000 and RDNA5.

[jagged snow]

I'm mostly feeling the need for a cpu upgrade on the productivity side of things

And also memory actually

I'm pretty frequently using at least 28gb

So it wouldn't hurt to make the jump to a 64gb kit

[edgy hazel]

If the terminal works then I work

[gilded helm]

I'm on 64GB already 😛

It was one way to guarantee dual rank sticks at the time I got this laptop

[night girder]

What CPU heavy games you play?

[gilded helm]

Timberborn is currently kicking my laptop's ass

[night girder]

Whenever I look at stats (cpu/gpu usage) it's always my GPU getting tanked 😉

[gilded helm]

Galactic Civ 3 as well, though it's been a while. Maybe I'll go to Galactic Civ 4 eventually.

[night girder]

That's also still EA and needs optimization?

[gilded helm]

More CPU power to get around optimization isn't something that's going to go away in the future.

Also autosave times in Satis are killer for me.

Valheim too, both autosave times, and now pretty much all of ashlands.

[night girder]

Oh Valheim, yeah that one I can get.

[night girder]

Not sure what you mean? You need to optimize games to reduce CPU usage? 😛

[gilded helm]

At some point Timberborn, Valheim, and so forth, might become more optimized. But dealing with unoptimized is just part of PC gaming.

And Timberborn will likely never get to a point where it can't bring any CPU to its knees. That's just the nature of building games with pathfinding.

[night girder]

A sad true, used to be different 😦

Remember the tricks old developers had to do for gameboy and other cassette based gaming consoles. There was so little diskspace on it, they had to get creative.

Systems were underpowered, so you had to be creative with every resource of the game. Now systems are overpowered, and you can waste the resources of the game and get away with.

[gilded helm]

It's especially amazing how that ends up getting used in speedruns now. Stuff like stale references being exploited.

[night girder]

Still, my hats off*(?) to old school developers.

[jagged snow]

Man, repaste did the trick

Down from 105 hotspot at 90w to 80 hotspot at 180w

[gilded helm]

Nice

[night girder]

How long between pastes?

[jagged snow]

Switched from hyrdronaut to mx4

[night girder]

GPU?

[jagged snow]

Not even a year
It's an issue with the cooler design on this card

[jagged snow]

6700xt

[night girder]

Good to know 😂

6950 XT here

[jagged snow]

Specific cooler designs from Asrock, xfx, and a few other AIBs have issues with super uneven contact

[night girder]

XFX here 😒

So, that means I have to repaste in 5-6 months I believe.

[jagged snow]

IIRC it was only on the 6600/6700 lineups

[night girder]

I hope so, I never repasted GPU 😂

[jagged snow]

20c hotspot delta now, not terrible

[night girder]

Doesn't the paste need to spread out a bit more before effective?

Like 1-2 days?

[jagged snow]

Yes, it'll get better before it gets worse

Kicked the fans up to more of where I like them and I'm a lot happier with these temps

Would like to upgrade from this card in the next few years

[night girder]

Is it also 30+ degrees celsius where you live?

[jagged snow]

Gpu temp of 66 and hotspot of 82

[night girder]

Because, the hot temperatures (outside) don't help for a cool system 😂

[jagged snow]

40+

I just had to buy AC for the first time because it hit 42 inside my house

[night girder]

I whish I had AC 😄

[jagged snow]

We tend to get a few weeks of super high temps in the summer so this isn't super abnormal

The new house is just poorly insulated

[jagged snow]

Now that I have it, I'll probably have a hard time going back

[night girder]

Insulate it better 😉

[jagged snow]

Renting 😦

[night girder]

Ah, understand 👍

[night girder]

I am still unsure to get AC. Some "ethical things" concern me.

[jagged snow]

I don't have to worry about that since I'm 80% hydro here

[night girder]

It's my conscience that doesn't allow me to buy AC 😄

Let me phrase it like that.

[jagged snow]

Accidental?

[night girder]

Yes, wrong server even 😂

[tough owl]

yea i see it all the time man

[midnight osprey]

same here!

I "shouldn't" have to upgrade it for a good while

I reattached my 3rd monitor and this happens.

Why windows, WHY?

[tough owl]

and supposedly windows 11 was better than windows 10 with display management

[tough owl]

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/238781.html intel just casually dropping cpus without e cores while their mainline ones are burning

[wanton orchid]

they just can't get tired to lie blatantly now

imagine selling a cpu with e-cores disabled from factory
to then probably claim it's more stable

while saying maximum operating temperature = t-junction temperature

"Maximum observable temperature is configurable by system vendor and can be design specific."
literally in the lying business

[winged valley]

I think selling malwarebytes keys might've been one of my best decisions for my business

If any of you start an IT/repair business, it's definitely worth partnering with one of the good AV companies (AKA not Norton or McAfee or Avast)

My tier list is (top worst, bottom best)

Vipre
WebRoot
Malwarebytes
ESET (I'd say it's pretty close to Bitdefender)
Bitdefender
kaspersky

I've never tried Acronis AV. I've only ever used it for imaging

[languid gulch]

well, 5 hours later & 1 power supply later, pc is up & running again

somehow it didn't take anything with it

[tough owl]

PSU bombed?

[languid gulch]

yup

not my system, but i built it

got the lovely "it won't power on at all" call

sure enough, nothing. no coil whine, no fans, no lights

[jagged snow]

What psu was that?

[languid gulch]

it was a 4 year old EVGA 700W

new one's a corsair RM750e

[jagged snow]

First time I've ever heard of an evga psu failing

[languid gulch]

yup

i suspect it was a defective unit

it was running a 2600X/1660S that has never seen a game, so i doubt it ever broke 150W

& it wasn't packed with dirt or dust

i blew it out & there was some dust, but the case filter had done a great job

new unit's fully modular, which is my first for that

definitely wrote down the warnings for that on a separate note

[twin dew]

Or get either TPM7950 (Or that Thermalright Heilos), or Thermal Grizzly Kryosheet.

[winged valley]

Apparently evga was under heat bc one specific product line started failing AFTER they closed and didnt have any more RMA stock

If evga is dead btw why don't they sell their PSU designs to someone?

[twin dew]

They aren't dead?
Dead for MBs and GPUs, not dead for PSUs etc. AFAIK.

And even for MBs they aren't just going to make new models, old ones are still in production.

But for the EVGA PSUs, they just spec minor tweaks and their markings into PSUs by the large PSU OEMs.
Most have been SuperFlower in the recent years by quick look and some HEC thrown in.

in 2021: G2 and G3 lines were SuperFlower, G1 and G1+ were FSP?

.
Ok, seems that that has changed since then and the owner is fully winding down, and not following the older "we just exit GPU market" thing.
My "information" was out of date.

Not official for the PSU and accessory lines, but closing their own webshop and bringing the PSU warranties down to just 3 years would suggest that.

[exotic warren]

why is here the most active area

[twin dew]

Depends on time and day.

[midnight osprey]

It is not in my experience, lol

I often wish I could give Bill Gates or whomever is in charge these days a good slap.

Windows frustrates me almost daily. lol

[twin dew]

Bill Gates hasn't had any input into Microsoft since 2000 or so.

[midnight osprey]

Pretty sure they have a “That will do” approach

Yeah

Still the first name that comes to mind though.

[twin dew]

Current CEO (Satya Nadella) is worst kind of MBA CEO.

[midnight osprey]

I’m not even familiar with that name.

[twin dew]

Complete idiot who only knows hype "techs" and cost cutting.

[midnight osprey]

It doesn’t even ring a bell. lol

Typical CEOs really.

[twin dew]

Has been in control since 2014.

[midnight osprey]

What’s a hype tech these days?

[twin dew]

AI.

[midnight osprey]

Just AI?

I’m getting good use out of Claude

[twin dew]

Steve Ballmer was partial idiot, but not complete one.

[midnight osprey]

Why did he step aside?

[twin dew]

Nadella is the type who starts new thing, and if they haven't got to be #1 in few years, will kill it, even if profitable.

[midnight osprey]

Why do they need to be no 1?

Why not simply very successful?

Egos?

[twin dew]

No idea.
But killing Windows Phone just because they didn't have large US presence because of US mobile phone company resistance, while rest of the world was healthy, etc.

Cutting internal QA to the bone as useless cost center.

So on.

[midnight osprey]

Yeah

Lots of poor choices.

[twin dew]

All on Nadella

[midnight osprey]

How hard is it to research competitors and come up with a product that combines all their best attributes.

I do that for fun, surely professionals are capable of

[twin dew]

Same for the giant buyouts of giant game companies to "keep up with Sony". Completely missing what Sony was doing.

Or various other buyouts and then not really doing anything with the bought company.

How would the Windows Phone had major presence in US, when most people got their phones via the mobile companies stores, who didn't want Windows Phone because MS set restrictions on their crapware, so the selection was very poor in those.
And when MS didn't give large enough kickbacks to the individual store workers for sales of the phones, so they instead recommended the specific phones they got largest comissions on instead.

Was healthy and going up everywhere else.

[midnight osprey]

Reminds me of EA. Those asshats buy to kill competition.

[midnight osprey]

Common business sense. Number one rule is keep your sellers happy.

[twin dew]

But basically MS didn't do the things necessary to get presence in US.
And Nadella killed the whole business just because MS didn't have major presence in US.
Even when they were at 10+% and going up in rest of the world.

[midnight osprey]

That or sell yourself.

[twin dew]

With very large market shares in specific countries.

[midnight osprey]

But if a kick in the teeth for customer whom did buy them too.

I wasn’t one of them. Switch from android to Apple, back to android and now back to Apple. The latter time simple cos I wanted to really appreciate a gift so I gave it another go.

I’m pleasantly surprised.

Not a fan of their anti right to repair and anti competition shite though.

[languid gulch]

i like how starliner's stranded, spacex is grounded, and nobody seems to give a fuck

[twin dew]

Starliner isn't stranded.
But as the stuff that is broken is in the service module, once they head back, they cannot do more controlled tests anymore to try to determine the cause.

And if there was acute need, Falcon 9 could be launched with NASA mandate.

So Starliner is staying up until something either forces them to head back (like battery degradation, which they are monitoring for, as currently those were only rated for 45 days).

Or they run out of things to analyze and test.

[languid gulch]

i just don't like any of it, and i really hope that boeing loses their contract over this

[twin dew]

Might be forced to do another test run.
Boeing doesn't get paid for this specific flight, they get paid for successful demonstation.

[languid gulch]

i didn't even know that this isn't the "final" version of starliner that boeing was planning to fulfil the rest of the contract with, so they STILL have to run yet another certification mission, so all this has been pointless

[twin dew]

Demonstration and certification.

No, this was supposed to be the final certification verification flight.
And next was supposed to be first "real" flight.
Boeing only has enough Atlas launches reserved for the real flights, no extra for another test.

And Atlas isn't produced anymore.

[languid gulch]

hope they've got a spare vulcan somewhere

[twin dew]

They have small window to buy one from Amazon Kuiper stock, while ULA still can make another Starliner specific upper stage.

Cannot launch on Vulcan without LOT of money for certification on that.

Vulcan isn't certified for human launches, or launches with Starliner.

[languid gulch]

oh i thought that was the next step for starliner

[twin dew]

No.

No plans to certify Starliner for Vulcan.

[languid gulch]

so it was really just to use up the last of the atlas rockets?

[twin dew]

Starliner is currently a dead end.
Boeing has no interest to do anything with it without paying customer.
And currently the only one is this NASA to ISS contract.

AFAIK Boeing has already shut the manufacturing line for Starliner capsules down.

As the plan is to just keep refurbishing the current two(?) hulls for the NASA missions.

[languid gulch]

oh yea, cuz this has given everyone the confidence of putting this one up there again 🤣

[twin dew]

Only problem on the capsule AFAIK so far has been that the only CO2 monitor broke down.
On comparison Dragon 2 has 4 of those...

On voting array.

[languid gulch]

yeesh

[twin dew]

So for the coming back the plan is just to replace the CO2 removal capsules earlier than normal.

As there is no way to monitor the CO2 content anymore.

The leak and thruster problems are in the service module, that is burned on re-entry and replaced each time.

[languid gulch]

i understand why they're leaving it up there (also to do ground testing), but man i hate all of it

[twin dew]

Thrusters on the capsule itself are only used after separation.

[languid gulch]

all this because they felt like not waiting

[twin dew]

Yeah, the program is clusterfuck of epic proportions.
The managers on Boeing side prevented the designers etc. from talking to the thruster supplier to save costs, as Aerojet Rocketdyne billed Boeing for the hours used on their side.

As Boeing had made bad contract with them.

[languid gulch]

it reminds me of alexei leonov's spacewalk

[twin dew]

This is Off-topic, no satisfactory here.

Basically the contract between Boeing and Aerojet as subcontractor is same type as used normally for Cost Plus contracts, where Boeing could just have billed NASA that amount + overhead.
And the overhead would have been pure profit for Boeing.

And in fixed price contract, it would be out of profit, not plus to it.

Boeing also skipped doing intergration testing.
Just expecting that because everything worked on small scale in one system/part tests, it will just work as whole too.
Same with full-flight simulations etc.
Done in parts, with resets to set starting conditions between and not using the ending values from previous step...

Leading to that clock fuckup on first test flight.

[languid gulch]

it's like they've never done any of this before

[twin dew]

And most of the thruster shutdowns have been because Boeing never bothered to actually characterize how the thruster pressure actually behaved at start and stop of "burn".
So the software has been cutting them off as faulty because the actual performance hasn't matched the programmed expectations.

[twin dew]

They haven't really.
Companies Boeing bought long time ago had done it, but none of the people are around anymore.

Or aren't in positions to be listened to.

[languid gulch]

i completely forgot how fast those valves have to open & shut for the precision docking maneuvers

i guess they did too

[twin dew]

Institutional "knowledge" goes away very fast once specific program is shut down that used/formed that.

Because it isn't in the institution, it is in the people doing the stuff.

[languid gulch]

i bet a lot of it is similar to how coders might document everything, but still have their secrets they take with them

[twin dew]

Difference between most of the information being stored somewhere, and knowing WHERE it is, how to access it, how to use it, knowing what it means, and what little specifics are missing and needed.

And on design side, WHY something was done like it was.

Which very often isn't included in the documentation, only how it was done.

[languid gulch]

reminds me of Apollo 6, when they realized that they swapped the sensor cables for 2 of the engines, and when one started going wonky, the signal got sent to a different engine to shut down

so they made that cable intentionally short on the next one

so it literally couldn't reach to another engine

200,000 of those little things that need to be done, without writing down why

[twin dew]

Goes into much more insidious stuff too.
When for long time people have just been copying Apollo and before.
There might have been some specific manufacturing tech cause, material tech cause etc. why something was done like it was, that doesn't apply anymore and some other solution would be cheaper and better.
But because "This is how it has always been done", no-one is allowed to change.

When no-one knows anymore why it was done like it is done.

That is what SpaceX changed.
Not taking that kind of things as gospel and actually starting from completely fresh position.

Both Starliner and Orion use the exact same capsule shape as Apollo, just scaled, as "there is lot of data already for this".
SpaceX designed, modeled and tested their own.

But Starliner and Orion didn't really check if that scaling affected using the old data from Apollo XD.

Orion used the "same heatshield material as Apollo", but then went and changed the composition little and manufactured the stuff completely different way.
And that didn't work right on the Artemis 1.
And the failure is one that was noticed in Apollo time for the material, when manufactured in the way that Orion heatshield was done.

But that documentation was missed by the current staff.

[languid gulch]

and now there's the pressure of getting "something" up there before the ISS comes down, which means a shoestring budget rush job, which will probably get someone killed

[twin dew]

Only real competitor is Axiom.
Who were in process of designing and contracting their own space station before the NASA competition was opened.

With first module in production right now and planned to be launched in 2026.

The other ones are in just for the design money, not to actually produce anything without 100% NASA funding.

[languid gulch]

i'd love to see a combo of gateway & an aldrin cycler going to the moon

[twin dew]

That Gateway is complete clusterfuck that only exists because SLS cannot get Orion to the Moon.

[languid gulch]

oh 100%, but i love the concept if it was properly supported

that HALO orbit is just really neat

[twin dew]

Completely stupid place to put a station.

[languid gulch]

maybe not a station to base a lander on, but comms/observation

[twin dew]

Would just be better to have few satellites around the moon to provide constant backside communications.

[languid gulch]

the problem is there's only a few stable orbits

[twin dew]

And that doesn't mean much if you can replace the sats every 10 years for example.
And even with one of those stable ones, you should only need 3 sats for constant coverage outside of deeper craters.

Or 3 sats in that kind of halo orbit or like.
For satellite it doesn't really matter what the orbit is.
For station it to be in position that isn't good for even transit between Earth and Moon is idiotic.

For earth-moon, the HALO is bad.
For anything else it is completely useless.

As in direct earth-moon transfers are much better, both in time and total fuel.
Just that SLS cannot do that for Orion, as the Orion service module is undersized and cannot be changed.
Orion cannot brake itself to moon orbit, and get back to earth afterwards.

Because in the original plan, the braking to moon orbit was done by oversized lander.
And Orion service module just had to get back to Earth.

[languid gulch]

i just wanna see all of it being done, that'd mean we kinda know what we're doing 🤣

[cyan crescent]

well i now have parts for a fully custom water loop on the way.

[edgy hazel]

Nice.

[cyan crescent]

im really excited for it. im going soft tubing tho and not hardline. not ready for that yet

maybe next build

[twin dew]

Hard is just for looks.
Worse in every other way.

[wanton orchid]

isn't soft more prone to change over time ?

I mean fittings etc

while hard just don't move

[twin dew]

Which is more likely to cause leaks than soft, if the fit isn't just right AFAIK.

With soft tubing, it goes more into the exact fittings and tube.
Compression fittings with quality tube with right material last very long time without issues.

[wanton orchid]

these soft tubes are still stiff right ?

[twin dew]

Not really, and if you try to do too small radius turn, it wil just "cave in" and go completely floppy on that turn with very bad fluid passing as it is internally almost completely closed.

If you don't use supporting spiral.

[wanton orchid]

ok
so it's either very hard or very soft

[twin dew]

Not really hard, PVC was the most common but has issues with leaching chemicals into the fluid inside, so it isn't really suitable.
But the others are very similar in handling.

And when you straighten the too tight turn, it will just flop back into round shape.

Soft tubing is soft (Herg with CPU removed from computer with soft tubing still attached.

[wanton orchid]

https://youtu.be/UeqHYZzFbrI
I mean I thought of that kind of tube
not that soft at all but still flexible

[twin dew]

No, that would be considered hard tubing for water cooling.

[wanton orchid]

ok

but it's easier to do than very hard tubing

[twin dew]

Yes, in a middle between the normal ones.
As there aren't common semi-hard see through plastics.

So that kind of nylon tubing isn't used.
But either stuff that is much softer, or then stuff that needs heating to be manipulated at all.

[wanton orchid]

ok

noted

[edgy hazel]

Hihi

honestly one of my better desicions. That repaste really helped a lot

[twin dew]

Think cheap water tubes for garden hoses, the non-reinforced kind etc.

[wanton orchid]

ps: the title is misleading
they are using tools inside the video

[twin dew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSxfAZCdjpM <- Look that stuff how he handles it at the start of the video before first cut.

[edgy hazel]

it's really dependent on the tube. Some soft tubing is really flexible, some are harder. In my experience, the more transparent the tubing is, the harder it is.

[twin dew]

But even the hardest are way softer than the kind of nylon tubing used for compressed air and car fuel lines.

That hardness just determines when it kinks, not if you can turn it into 180 degree turn with that kink.

180degree turn with parallel straights touching each other without larger loop.

Just unusable for any real use because of the kink blocking the inner passage.

Cannot be done with nylon tubing without heating or excessive force, and nylon won't recover from that.

All the soft tubing types will recover with minor to no visual issues and at worst easier kinking at the same point in the future.

[wanton orchid]

HDPE looks interesting

but not transparent again

[twin dew]

Best you seem to be able to get is white transparentish.

Except if you are Indian or Chinese seller who sells a product that probably isn't actually HDPE.

[willow pike]

man I really don't miss watercooling, such an enormous faff

[twin dew]

Hobby as any other.
Used to be requirement to get silent at high performance machine, way way back.

[dire igloo]

ngl, this matte black ZMT looks unironically dope

[twin dew]

But any of the soft tubings can be handled like that, just that depending on the exact one the kinking points change.
The inner and outer diameters, wall thickness from those and the exact material.

[midnight osprey]

I’ve only ever done AIO cooling

Don’t trust myself to not have leaks

I can get overwhelm then simply hope for the best! lol

https://tenor.com/view/onejob-gif-23973510

[willow pike]

yeah I 'member, I was all in on it back in the danger den days

[maiden coyote]

I was thinking about watercooling my computer room like what ltt had done with the heat exchangers

Installing a minisplit would be easy more effective though

[feral drift]

Watercooling like the clip 50 Shades of Skittles shows above? :D

Seems fairly effective

[cyan crescent]

Burning a cd. Or something. Idk. Never burned a cd before.

[charred pewter]

ive 'popped' cds before ... thats exciting (dont try it without eye protection)

[lucid badge]

h ttps://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2024/000007_en
Stop Destroying Videogames-European Citizens' Initiative
Commission registration number: ECI(2024)000007

We need to get the support of at least 1 million EU citizens,
with thresholds (minimum numbers) in at least 7 EU countries.

Mark the Date 31/07/2024

[gilded helm]

Alright, I'm over the threshold, I want a new mouse. What do people like? I'm hoping for something that works both wired USB and wireless with a dongle. Basically so that when I need to charge it, I just use it wired for a while. This is the same approach I have with my headphones.

[sage pier]

My darmoshark m3 pro has treated me very well

(also three other people)

one person has had it for a year

still working fine for them

[gilded helm]

How's the software? I'm on a Razer Viper now. I hate Razer's software so much that I tolerate not knowing its state of charge until the 5% light on it the mouse itself starts blinking. Its ability to contact its charging dock has gotten worse over time, so here I am.

[sage pier]

really clean and minimalistic. No separate rgb software or ram tuning shit

[gilded helm]

The last straw for Razer's software was how it throws a splash screen up on Windows boot for a weirdly long time.

[sage pier]

lol

this software just shows the first image on startup and you have to click the X symbol

and its there as soon as you boot windows

really light weight software like I said

[gilded helm]

I could probably get used to it, but I'd actually prefer 4 extra buttons. I left the 2 side buttons for back/forward as defaulted by Windows, but I program the 2 buttons below the scroll wheel on my Viper to be Home/End.

[sage pier]

Yeah I had the g502 hero and used to use every button and got used to it in two days

[charred pewter]

ugh. im still using razer v1.0 ... i wont install the new 2.0 nasty (thankfully my devices all work in v1)

[jagged snow]

Love my g403 hero, works outstandingly well for office/productivity and gaming

Nice subtle design, only RGB is the logi logo but I leave it turned off

[plush marsh]

any preferred shape?
the best ones I've tried are:

ergo: Lamzu Thorn, Razer Deathadder V3 Pro (razer software is trash/annoying tho)

ambi: G Pro Superlight, Lamzu Maya, Pulsar X2, Pulsar X2H

[gilded helm]

I'm right handed, no preference on shape.

[plush marsh]

u may want to look into
Zowie EC3 CW: Great quality overall, you don't need software and it comes with a charging base that also serves as an enhanced receiver (it also has the normal usb dongle).
Deathadder V3 Pro: afaik some copies start to develop some side flex, had I mine for 1y and was as good as new tho. It also has optical switches so it won't develop double click issues.
G Pro Superlight 1/2: The main difference between 1 and 2 is that v1 has mechanical switches + 1khz polling ratewhile v2 has optical switches + 2khz polling rate. I've personally had a horrible experience with the qc in 2 copies of the v1 (main and side clocks becoming mushy) and the white version i had somehow became yellow. The shape is great tho

If you find having the 2 buttons compulsory, sadly removing them its becoming a trend, some mice i know that have it are basilisk v3 pro and g502 x , haven't tried them tho

[sage pier]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/U6u_kRtY0ao

[jagged snow]

That's the g504

And I hate it

[sage pier]

same thing

[jagged snow]

No?

[sage pier]

g40- or g50- mice rip through mouse pads and software is terrible

[jagged snow]

Software is fine

And that must be an issue with the mousepads

I've had mine for a few years and it isn't showing any wear

[sage pier]

same decepticon looking bastard lol

[jagged snow]

g403 just looks like a mouse

[sage pier]

nah hundreds of mousepads struggle with the default glides on the g series

[sage pier]

ohhh

that thing

[jagged snow]

hundreds of low quality pads?

Mine isn't anything special

[sage pier]

halo bt has a g502 and buys 200 dollar mousepads every 2 months (not saying they're good but they gotta be at least decent)

[jagged snow]

I have an ltt deskpad
I do all my work and gaming there and I'm several years in with no visible wear

[stray badger]

Basilisk v2 ultimate has been great for 2 years so far

[torn raptor]

Basilisk v3. I used to own actually the very first gaming mouse ever (before it was just the cream Microsoft mouse types) and I always stuck with Razer Deathadder. The basilisk is pretty much the same feel with more buttons (99 grams). Although these days 50gram ultra lights are popular with fps players. It has the options for wireless and wired hybrid you mentioned. I tried other mice from Logi and Corsair and they didn’t have quite the same feel and aesthetic for me. Software mostly does the job and saves in the cloud with profile. I haven’t had probs with the software for like 7 years now.

[sand saddle]

There are great mice on aliexpress like VXE R1 Pro (max for battery life), Zaopin Z2, Darmoshark M3S Pro (M3 Pro for big)
Or from keychron’s website the M7
I see no reason to buy overpriced brands.

There are certainly more similar mice for around the same price

[gilded helm]

Looking forward to getting home and sifting through everything and getting something ordered.

[languid gulch]

i don't use any mouse pad 🤣

just ends up being a light buffing on the wood

[twin dew]

And as expected, the first line Asus tech support peon didn't understand what I was asking, and is just telling me to contact Intel to make them create BIOS for Asus AMD motherboard...

To support Intel WLAN cards properly.

No, it was that I would need to contact Intel, for Intel to contact Asus, that they want Asus to support their WLAN cards...

Unfortunately this is nothing we can help with.
This is on Intel unfortunately.

If they want us to create a BIOS for this its up to them to contact us.
But there is nothing we can do unfortunately.
I would advice you talk to them and see if they can provide some sort of solution.

The first line in reality: We choose to not even investigate

Because if Asus did even basic testing to see what is wrong and then contacted Intel, something might actually happen.
But now both sides customer supports just blame everyone else but themselves.

And nothing gets fixed.

[languid gulch]

and money gets saved all around, except for you

[twin dew]

Which is why this was to be expected.

[languid gulch]

in celebration of last week, this is my new lock screen

[twin dew]

And this specific one can just be from old corruption.

[pure karma]

that right there is the video i agree the most to that has ever been sent in this channel

[edgy hazel]

Thor fell off smh

[languid gulch]

🤣

i mean, my mouse has 12 buttons on the side that i barely use, but they're nice to have when i do need them

[pure karma]

my freind uses his 12 as alternatives to the F keys

[edgy hazel]

Top two buttons: Ctrl C + Ctrl V
Lower two: alt tab + Ctrl E
Lowest big button: hold for low DPI

[dire igloo]

That's the productivity assignment.

I had copy/paste on those two too, but kept M4/M5 on the other side buttons (usually used for Melee and Ultimate)
Lowest one was M to give me quick access to ingame maps

[edgy hazel]

Ctrl E is for the slide attack in warframe

[dire igloo]

Fair

[twin dew]

So the Kingston Canvas Select Plus 32GB I had originally bought for the Pi 1 is pretty good too and actually fills the A1 requirements it says it fills.

Just repartitioned and formatted as exFAT.

Old Transcend Premium 300x 32GB and Transcend Premium 16GB that I had used in my phones at some point:

Unfortunately the Transcend TS-RDF5A USB SD card reader I have doesn't support passing TRIM to the card.

While the same cards in Pi SD card slots could support TRIM.

Ah, I was able to boot with the Pi 4:s card in the reader, leaving the native slot free to trim all those cards.

But I need to regenerate the initramfs to include more drivers

[twin dew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CujjUfE504

Look into all current commercial power-point stations that have been announced.

[jagged snow]

Some do at least have testing articles, which is farther than most projects make it

[night girder]

Good mouse. Pain in the arse to clean though.

[tough owl]

too much going on in a mouse

G305 my beloved

[night girder]

Eventually it looks like this.

While it does look good, the design (imo), too many places for dirt to attach on and get stuck.

[edgy hazel]

Don't worry. It'll smooth out.

I'll buy a new shell soon...

https://github.com/veggiedefender/open-and-shut
This is very important

[jagged snow]

Somebody got bored

[mental oriole]

But why...

[night girder]

If you are ever in a situation you cannot use the keyboard but still need help

[tough owl]

8.5 Million systems were affected by Cloudstrike

[night girder]

You know what was really fucked up? It wasn't even an update you could control 😒

[tough owl]

Yup

[night girder]

So that's on big side-effect of "we push the updates and you have almost no control over it".

[tough owl]

automated update when majority of IT staff were not at work yet

Great job guys

I hope they lose a lot of customers

[night girder]

What I've read, you couldn't say "I want to download the update after I want it" it was cloud based so, shit out of luck

[tough owl]

Yup

[night girder]

One would think it might be a wake up call to give us more control over updates again 😄

[tough owl]

Was pushed to computers even in sleep mode

Or don't outsource cybersecurity departments

[night girder]

because atleast then, after reports come in of systems crashing, people could not update OR give people a good way to rollback to previous update.

and with a good way, I mean something even my mom can do.

and you cannot even make a backup before updating, because you don't know when the update is pushed 😂

[tough owl]

My school tests windows updates and software updates before pushing them to systems.

But they can't with CS because it runs with kernel permissions all the time

[night girder]

what a fuck up

[tough owl]

US government agencies use CS

[night girder]

So I read, and hospitals too.

[tough owl]

yup

Somebody got fired with no severance I hope

[night girder]

let's see if CEO can survive.

[tough owl]

person who was responsible for the update checks to not be in place

[night girder]

I don't think you should blame the employee down the bottom.

Wait, blame, maybe yes? But you know what I am trying to say?

[tough owl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7kq43TF_98 I like Mental Outlaws video on it

[night girder]

Like, why was he able to do this? Did he have too many rights?

Where was their manager? Did they gave the OK?

[tough owl]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Someones decision caused this I know that much

Whether directly or indirectly

[night girder]

Nah, it's a whole company.

Nobody sits solo on an island. Multiple things went wrong for sure. Not one person.

[tough owl]

Can't wait for them to get investigated

See what else they're doing wrong over there

[night girder]

Especially as a security company, you have to have checks and hierarchy.

you can't just give the developer accounts/power/rights to push to production solo for example.

And if you did, you fucked up as leader(s) 🤣

[edgy hazel]

tbf Clownstrike has in their TOS that it should not be used for hospitals or airlines or shit like that

[tough owl]

I'm surprised they don't just refuse to issue license keys to airlines and hospitals

[dire igloo]

speaking of non-standard input devices
https://twitter.com/buttplugio/status/1628156107775672320

buttplug.io 🍑🔌- Open Source Sex Toy Software (@buttplugio) on X

The Gag Writer Keyboard

An open source 3d printed keyboard that allows you to type by sucking dick.

https://t.co/LY2tYx0fa1

Twitter · Feb 21, 2023, 10:14 PM

[pure karma]

i have so many questions

[charred pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/po-facepalm-gif-27277915

that was a supreme facepalm moment

[languid gulch]

i mean, some people do seem to be typing like that

[silk terrace]

Think that might violate the "this is a SFW server" bit in the rules

[tough owl]

I have questions about you as a person now

[languid gulch]

now i'm thinking of the "personal transportation" episode of South Park 🤣

[mental oriole]

[pure karma]

is that meant to be a reference to the chess guy?

[languid gulch]

i have no idea what that is

some people just seem to write with their.........ummmm........head

and not their brain

[gilded helm]

The G502 has a micro USB interface? -_-

Ah, newer version has USB-C

Those extra buttons get spendy fast, damn.

[gilded helm]

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Lightspeed-Wireless-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B092CRH1RX

I'm probably going to be a baby and cling to my extra buttons unless someone can talk me out of it. I actually use the DPI shift in games like Satis or Valheim fairly often to hit snap points when building.

[jagged snow]

G403 has three buttons, can map them to dpi shift

I've found that more buttons than three get very easily mashed when you're playing, harder to hit them than keyboard

[dire igloo]

Keychron M7, Razer Basilisk V3

[gilded helm]

Stock photo of USB-A and C dongles for the Keychron M7. Another example of why USB-A isn't going anywhere, it's way better for tight fits to not stick out.

[jagged snow]

For now

Low profile usb-c dongles are coming

[twin dew]

Will always be larger than USB-A, because the connector doesn't have any space inside it you can use for the electronics.
With USB-A you can put stuff inside the key already.
But that USB-C one is probably two chip solution, one for the USB-C and another for the actual transmitter.
So once those are integrated together, the size will go down.
And also currently just has one PCB going in direction of the connector, when the chips etc. could be packaged 90-degrees from that instead.

[twin dew]

Anyways, making that "raw" nftables firewall rule set for the Pi 1 got lot easier when got the info that the format from the current rule listing is same as the format for config file.
So I could just copy snippets from the complex firewall in the router and make the simple firewall from the few bits that were needed.

[dire igloo]

If I had a nickel for every time I got a PSU removed from public listing on PCPP, I'd have two nickels.
Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/428802-correction-warning-for-kolink-enclave-500w-psu-no-power-chord-included#cx4249915
https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/458096-correction-psu-listed-as-white-links-to-black-version#cx4452344

[twin dew]

Still need to add TCP flag filtering etc. at some point.
Need to fix the same on the main firewall first.
IPv6 disabled in the firewall currently, also on the Pi.
Rejects commented out intentionally after basic checks.

[twin dew]

Suggestions on improvements welcomed.

[night girder]

/community.intel.com/t5/Processors/July-2024-Update-on-Instability-Reports-on-Intel-Core-13th-and/td-p/1617113

Based on extensive analysis of Intel Core 13th/14th Gen desktop processors returned to us due to instability issues, we have determined that elevated operating voltage is causing instability issues in some 13th/14th Gen desktop processors. Our analysis of returned processors confirms that the elevated operating voltage is stemming from a microcode algorithm resulting in incorrect voltage requests to the processor.

[twin dew]

So loads of CPUs with permanent damage out there...

Now we will see if Intel will implement easy replacement program or will try to wiggle out of replacing almost all 13700, 13900, 14700 and 14900 CPUs out there...

By denying replacement until the damage starts to actually cause issues down the line.

[languid gulch]

wendell showed charts that also included the 13600

which basically means that the 14600 will show up too

[twin dew]

But that and down won't probably need wholesale replacement for everyone.

[languid gulch]

possibly

or maybe the defect just takes time, & it's not a voltage thing at all, intel's just saying that to buy enough time before people realize that it's not voltage, & by then 15th gen is out

kinda like how they spewed bullshit a few months ago about mobo makers putting out garbage BIOS, & their stuff was fine

i have 0 trust in them putting out a statement designed to cover their asses, & not actually address a problem

[twin dew]

"Nice"... Unreal Engine has multiple different helpers for handling command line arguments, and which one is used depends on the part of the code...

The command line library has one, but then some of the other modules have their own ones and only ask for the whole bunch from that command line library stored value.

And there isn't one common place where they are handled in the end.
There is some preparing parsing at first, and then that just gets passed to all the modules that might want to get parameters from the launch arguments, which each then check if the ones they care about are included in the processed to tokens or raw string argument formats.

No wonder Epic doesn't document them all anywhere.

[silk hemlock]

how do people feel about MSI laptops in general? I'm not a laptop person but a friend of mine needs one

MSI Thin GF63 12VF Black 15.6inch Core i5 RTX 4060 Gaming Laptop

Is one I'm looking at

seems solid enough but worried I'm missing something

I suppose an i5 is fairly old now?

[twin dew]

i5 isn't, but 12th gen is somewhat.

But taking a look at the chassis.

[silk hemlock]

my cpu language is a bit rusty, so the i5 12000s are a bit old?

[twin dew]

i5 is just branding about power level.

[silk hemlock]

ah

seems like they're having a bit of sale

they... all seem very similar. And comparison sites dont seem to say they are much different

[twin dew]

Pentium/Celeron/other names, to Core i3, to Core i5 to Core i7 to Core i9 on same generation.
And then -12 is 12th gen, currently on 14th and 15th just coming out.

And then the later numbers and letters are the model inside the generation.

[silk hemlock]

riiiight ok I gotcha. So in that last image the only dif seems to be cpu - r7 77 or the i7 13 you think?

probably the hardest thing she'll run is baldur's gate 3

but lifetime is also an important thing

[twin dew]

First is Zen3 based AMD, second is 12th gen Intel, third is 13th gen Intel.

But the 13th gen is little lower in the stack for its generation than the 12th gen one.

[silk hemlock]

yeah cpu knowledge is def my weakest tech skill

[twin dew]

650H vs 620H.

[silk hemlock]

is the ryzen up to snuff comparitively?

[twin dew]

Need to look more, so you need to wait.
Trying to see if that Thin GF63 chassis is usable or not as first step.

As some laptops just have insufficient cooling and there is nothing you can do.

[silk hemlock]

oh thanks.

[twin dew]

So that needs to be checked first.

[silk hemlock]

I stay away from lap tops so I'm really not someone who knows where to spot potential issues down the line

[twin dew]

Display in that gen at least is crappy with only 65% sRGB color space, even when it is IPS and 144hz.
Means that the screen on it can only display 65% of standard display colors, so max red etc. will be less vibrant and red.

[silk hemlock]

the monitor on the ryzen you mean?

[twin dew]

That MSI you first mentioned.

[silk hemlock]

ah right.

[twin dew]

Loudish in gaming load (as expected) but no mention of overheating and throttling.
So the bad points are the standard laptop level of crappy screen (that 65% sRGB is pretty common for cheap laptops) and crappy speakers.

[silk hemlock]

speakers can be worked aroudn at home more easily and the screen isn't a dealbreaker per say, but if the ones with the newer chips in the 2nd image are solid that might be a good idea

they have more than MSI laptops at scrptec but just the first brand that came to mind

[twin dew]

Checking the other ones now for the base.

Before going to CPU performance comparison.

Point is that the laptops use shared chassis for many specs, that only gets updated with generations.
So first check if the chassis is usable, then can look at specific model.
All three listed probably use the same chassis and screen.

[silk hemlock]

yeah it really seemed the only swapped out the one part

really don't want something that will overheat

[twin dew]

Ok, so they have two chassis, that Thin that is thinner and then thicker one used in that Katana for example (more height, but better cooling)

[silk hemlock]

Hmm where do you even find info on the chassis? I was trying to look it up on another model but didn't get far

[twin dew]

Nothing official, need to look into reviews, possibly opening pics and the outside pics.

Ah, for finding laptop reviews for other laptops using the same chassis to get info when the specific variant hasn't been reviewed?

[silk hemlock]

xD

[twin dew]

Just search engines with partial model and then "review" and possibly some extras.
And then often need to look for ones with CPUs from same generation.

[silk hemlock]

ok of those 3 group the katana seemed to have solid cooling?

[twin dew]

Last also has same crappy screen, can run timespy without throttling, but no word so far on CPU & GPU load, but it does have dual-fans etc:

That is for i7-13620H & RTX 4050 model.

[silk hemlock]

and that's the gigabyte?

[twin dew]

No, that was the Katana 15

As in the thicker MSI chassis vs. the "Thin 15" line.

[silk hemlock]

ah right yeah. I'm trying to find some good info the the gigabyte ones but having a rough time of it

Gigabyte G6 KF 2024 Core i7 RTX 4060 Grey Gaming Laptop is the current one I'm looking at

[twin dew]

Moment, need to read about that chassis.

[silk hemlock]

no stress. 😄

hmm the keyboard on it seems poor quality

[twin dew]

Same level of screen (but bigger and 16:10), good cooling.

The keyboard and trackpad are pleasant to use, albeit with a lack of feedback and the text on the keys does look like it's been created by a generative AI.
So pretty normal laptop keyboard.

The 4060 on the gigabyte is limited to 75W, haven't checked the MSIs.

[silk hemlock]

hmmm so ... any marked difference between it and the katana? just hte slightly bigger screen?

[twin dew]

Better cooling:
Two fans with dual-direction outlets, one more heatpipe.

Those are from the Gigabyte

Even has "Entertainment" mode that limits fan speeds but still doesn't throttle under load (and Quiet mode that disabled them completely, no matter the temperature, at review time).

Ah, sorry, dropped CPU max power: PL1/PL2 limits at 135/155 W in Performance, 55/115 W in Entertainment, and 25/35 W in Quiet.

But at default: The fans are unbearable in Performance mode, not just loud but shrill and piercing.

[silk hemlock]

oh shit really? haven't seen that on the review vids

[twin dew]

But again common cheap laptop thing.

Not looking at vids, actual classic reviews.

[silk hemlock]

did you see any of that with the katana? I'm trying to find some now

[twin dew]

About what?
The power limits, or the fan noise?

[silk hemlock]

fan noise

[twin dew]

One source says 75W max for the GPU on Gigabyte, other 105W...

[twin dew]

Yes, again very noisy at full use, but that is to be expected, would need review from same person to say more or sound samples.

[silk hemlock]

So essentially what you're saying is laptops in that range are gonna be loud

[twin dew]

That gigabyte should need less fan speed for same cooling, because much more fin surface area than the Katana.

From the PCGamer review for Gigabyte G6X 2024, one step up from the one you are looking, which explains the GPU power difference thing:

That said, the combined maximum powers of the CPU and GPU come to 260 W—that's a lot of heat for a relatively slim laptop to shift, so you probably guess what that means.

[silk hemlock]

ok and with that that might be quieter? or could deal with being in 'entertainment mode' better?

[twin dew]

Ok, the G6 has only two heatpipes in each direction, but the dual-heatsinks per fan remain.

Vs the G6X.

[silk hemlock]

there is a

[twin dew]

I would expect that the Gigabyte has more cooling power at same noise level, but goes into fan noise characteristic territory.

[twin dew]

Yeah, but that G6 has less heat to dissipate than the G6X.

[silk hemlock]

So what exactly was the benefit of the 6x? was having a hard time following

[twin dew]

But also less performance, with worse CPU and lower power limit on the GPU.

Same GPU, but 75W on G6 and 105W on G6X.

[silk hemlock]

so just to clear that bit up - what difference does that make? will it not be able to make full use of its parts with a lower power consumption?

[twin dew]

Higher model with more power used but better cooling, but if the thickness is the same, then G6X will be louder than G6.

[twin dew]

The GPU in G6X is more performant, but generates more heat to get that performance, and gives less performance per watt than the G6.

[edgy hazel]

Das a lot of copper

[silk hemlock]

righ right. ok think it's a significant performance drop compared to the x?

[twin dew]

2.89 cm (G6X) vs 2.6cm (G6) thick at back, front is the same thickness.

2010MHz vs 2370MHz by Gigabyte as the expected Boost Clock.

So about 18% more raw GPU performance in the G6X vs. G6.

[silk hemlock]

cooooool cool cool cool thanks for all the help xD such a harder time trying to navigate laptops

[twin dew]

G6 has 6+4, 4.9GHz max, 45/115W CPU, G6X has 6+8 4.9GHz max 55/157W CPU.

[silk hemlock]

6+4? 6+8?

[twin dew]

6 p-cores (normal), 4 or 8 e-cores (atoms).

Performance, Efficiency.

[silk hemlock]

how are these terms something I've never encountered before

[twin dew]

E-cores boost to 3.6GHz max on both, and are slower per clock cycle.

That has been a thing for Intel CPUs since 12th gen.

[silk hemlock]

maybe I just haven't looked at intel much in the last decade xD

[twin dew]

Integrating Atoms into Cores to get more nominal cores and better multithreaded performance.

But causing scheduling issues etc.

In theory the E-cores are for background tasks and then fully multithreaded stuff.
And P-cores are for programs that need high single-core performance.
But the automatic scheduling for that was crapshoot at start and still can have issues assigning right threads to right cores.

[silk hemlock]

that sounds like a massive nuisance.

[twin dew]

Android etc. have had to do that kind of thing for a long time, but MS really didn't like when they had to start doing it too.

That AMD MSI has the 4060 limited to just 45W and 1470MHz :D

Same for the Thin GF63 12XX

[silk hemlock]

I'm picking up maybe 1/4 to 1/3 of what you're saying xD

[twin dew]

Katana 15 has 105W for the GPU.

As in that the MSI "Thin 15" line gaming laptops have the GPU just starved for power and way underperforming.

[silk hemlock]

hmm well out of the ones tonight anything pokes it's head out as a bit of a winner? leaning towarsd one of hte gigabytes just because I've seen a few MSI die a bit early

[twin dew]

About 75% of the performance of the G6 for the Thin 15 MSIs (for the raw GPU)
Katana 15 should be about equal to the G6X.

[silk hemlock]

really the katana was about the same as the g6x?