off-topic-tech

[jagged snow]

That's odd, how hard are you pushing it?

[sharp oasis]

Yes. (really hard)

I usually have 20c ambient

24c makes it crash in singe core

[languid gulch]

time for a dumb windows question: is there a way to have files and folders in the same folder, but have them ordered differently?

i'd like to have the folders by name, files by date or size

[stray badger]

I think you do that by clicking that field in file explorer

[jagged snow]

Closest you can get is setting group by type and then sorting by your desired method afaik

There is probably a tool to do it though

[sharp oasis]

@jagged snow on cold air 5800x achieved a max score of 19120pts cinabench r23.

At 5.29ghz all core static

Sadly I didn't get the Benchmade save in time before cpu overheated

I have very narrow windows before cpu just crashes

[twin dew]

So it is the monthly reboot day again...

[dire igloo]

Reminds me of the guy that asked me why his Rocket League was acting weird.
Turns out that ever since he built the machine like over a year ago, he never rebooted it even once

[twin dew]

Well, there is a reason why MS went to forcing security updates and reboots after them...

[dire igloo]

Yeah

At my old job I learned that the most bizarre and seemingly unexplainable issues arise from having windows run for too long

[twin dew]

Programs not handling the "time since boot" counter being reset back to minimum value just before overflow.

Bad memory that that happens every 36 days or so?
But as general idea.

Or might now be 64 bit and not be issue anymore?

[pure karma]

yea i noticed a few from even just running it for a week for the fun of it

[sharp oasis]

@jagged snow why does lowering the voltage give me even higher stable clocks wtf. 5.1ghz is stable on just ambeint at 1.32v

[jagged snow]

Lower temps

[sharp oasis]

I went from 1.36 to 1.32

[jagged snow]

And it might actually not be stable

[sharp oasis]

It's so far holding stable for the bench I'm running

[charred willow]

It’s lower temps from the lower voltage

Temp scaling is higher than voltage at a certain level

[sharp oasis]

Still other benches with this cpu are in the 1.4v

For less frequency

[charred willow]

Which bench are you testing on

[sharp oasis]

Cinabench r23 multicore

[charred willow]

If the bench doesn’t stress the instruction sets it should be more stable

Yeah so cinebench doesn’t really stress instructions so the cores aren’t working at their top

I test stability on ycruncher, uses every instruction set it can

[sharp oasis]

It has a bit of avx but still 1.32v seems low

For benching of cinabench stable only

[jagged snow]

That is low, you might just have a good sample

[charred willow]

My a8-5600k can do 6400mhz 1.85v on cine r11.5 but can’t do 6000 1.875 on ycruncher

[jagged snow]

What are you using to monitor?

[sharp oasis]

Hwinfo64.

Repeated boots so

Rn I'm haveing trouble repeating it for to the aircondiner not being on

[charred willow]

If your stability depends on ambient temps it’s not a good stable oc tbh

[sharp oasis]

No it's not stable lmao. This is I'm going for benches

Stable oc is 4.8ghz all core with pbo

I also don't have proper cooling for these oc speeds lmao @charred willow

I'm running on an aio and getting to the point where people are using like phase change cooling

[charred willow]

If you don’t have proper cooling you are putting lots of faith in the silicon holding up long term

[sharp oasis]

Damn

[charred willow]

Ln2 or dice isn’t that expensive

[sharp oasis]

This ain't for a long term oc. This is like a one time go

[edgy hazel]

bro got Frost III on his CPU

[charred willow]

Well yes but voltage kills or degrades much much faster if you are stretching your cooling

[sharp oasis]

I'm in relatively safe voltages for daily use but really stupidly high core clocks been watching current and voltage readings

I suppose it's time to decase my setup and try to oc it that way

[tough owl]

Rj is back

[charred willow]

Just a little bit

Me and fight or flight doing some irl colab

Brought me back a bit, did some xoc while he’s staying at my place

[jagged snow]

Yep

[sharp oasis]

Nice

My ass is doing redneck xoc cus I can't afford a pot

[charred willow]

A used f1 or venom is like 75$

[sharp oasis]

What's that in canadian

And is it even available used in Canada

[charred willow]

Yes you just have to post on the oc forums

My venom was 40$ and I got it from Canada

[tough owl]

How’s the heat

[jagged snow]

Warm

Very very warm

[tough owl]

Too warm

[jagged snow]

Yep

That's part of why I've basically disappeared off of discord lately

[minor scarab]

I made this one ages ago, is there someghing I should change now? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qVCjHG

October 2023

should I wait for newer parts to come out?

[sharp oasis]

@jagged snow @charred willow

Cool day+ fans = 28 c in bios

[charred willow]

You could ice bucket your dad.

Rad

[sharp oasis]

I could actually.

Imma try this first.

[charred willow]

It gets you about 10c in bios.

[sharp oasis]

Oooj

[jagged snow]

Ice bucket is good

[sharp oasis]

This mobo should handle 10c in bios fine unlike my other b450

That bugged out at 10c and below

[jagged snow]

Or washer fluid from the freezer

[sharp oasis]

Put my rad in the freezer

For benches.

[jagged snow]

No

[sharp oasis]

Kidding but yeah might ice bucket it

[edgy hazel]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/2/24117976/best-printer-2024-home-use-office-use-labels-school-homework
Lmao

[charred pewter]

its the one i got, and its still going strong 😄

[minor scarab]

I was told to replace the 7800x3d with a 7600x, is that a good idea? tbh basically the only reason I picked the x3d is for satis and to be "future proof"

[tough owl]

The verge needs money I guess 🤣

fosstodon.org/@sponsorblock/112603139898164385

[edgy hazel]

Noooo

[charred pewter]

i love the underlying hate about google seo in that article

[soft bloom]

What makes air conditioners in trains so bad?
1 they are freaking cold
2 they freaking dont care
3 they have ability to make you want to sneeze and your eyes hurt

[edgy hazel]

4 they fail as soon as it hits 25°

and make your packed train stop in the middle of the sun on a 34° cloudless day for at least 2 hours

[night girder]

I also have a Brother Printer.

Looks the same model, but it's probably older. Have it for 10 years or so

Way better than my HP experience.

[charred pewter]

yeah, mines like 11yo ... im still on the original starter cartridge 😄

its why i picked laser... the ink never dries up like stupid inkjet printers (i dont print often)

i got sick of replacing ink everytime i wanted to print two pages

[night girder]

It's just solid stuff. Normally, in the lifespan of this printer, I would had to buy 2-3 new ones 😄

[sand saddle]

I have some old printer, just recently ordered and put some Chinese chips and powder in it

Laserjet CP1025 smth

[wanton orchid]

laser also makes document lasting longer and more resistant to weather problems

without abusing ink aggressive chemistry

[sand saddle]

Replacing the powder was quite a messy job, mainly due to my inexperience

[wanton orchid]

and dont need thick paper too

low quality thick print paper looks goofy

[languid gulch]

you're cute

[pure karma]

im chillin

[night girder]

It's night over here, no clue.

[pure karma]

itl get warm soon got some 30's on the way

[tough owl]

I love the desert

[stray badger]

i guess American trains do at least one thing better than European trains

[jagged snow]

They might get you there an hour late but at least it's somewhat comfortable

[stray badger]

Amtrack is actually pretty comfy

lots of leg room

nice seats, 120v outlets

will find out about how good the overnight trains are soon

[languid gulch]

i've been told you want a bed that's sideways & not front to back

[soft bloom]

This can't be in Celsius

[languid gulch]

yup

[soft bloom]

Is this Australia? How the freak it can get this hot?

[languid gulch]

it's arizona

[soft bloom]

I like the neighborhood of Sun City and. Surprise

[soft bloom]

Maybe it wanted to be that uprooted kind?

You know, one that looks like a materialized ghost if a tree

[soft bloom]

So no speedtravel with sudden bumps?

[soft bloom]

at 3 am i got turned from "washing face over the ..." to "jojo posing while grabbing anything to not get sitted on a toilet" in a split second

that's what speed™️ trains do to you

at least they make less stops on the way

[dire igloo]

That's a DB issue not an AC issue

[edgy hazel]

True

[gilded helm]

How badly would a Ryzen 5600g limit an RX6800 in games like Satis or Valheim?

[night girder]

When I got back from vacation, after a 4 hour flight. I needed to get from Brussels to my home town by train. It took me another 4 hours. Kid you not. So from Africa to Belgium was 4 hours. From Brussels to the North of my country another 4. Every train was cancelled, or didn't ride normally. Like they only did half of the route and not to where I needed to be. I was so pissed off.

NMBS is the worst train company in the world.

[jagged snow]

That really sucks

[wanton orchid]

something wrong in eu
I suspect some conspiracy

because every train companies are the single worst

talk to Germans

talk to Italian

you'll see

the train management is not simply bad
it's absurd

everywhere

maybe Sweeden have ok train
but I'm not even sure

[dire igloo]

Depends on your resolution and settings

At 1080p I'd say a lot, 1440p it's manageable tho not ideal and 4K you're Gucci (CPU is more likely to be the bottleneck)

[soft bloom]

maybe its from having too many railroads?

btw, which countries don't have government monopoly over railroads?

[twin dew]

In many cases the major problems started when the national railways had to be converted into for-profit companies, even if still fully owned by the governments.

[midnight osprey]

hey guys, my former ISP advertised similar hight speeds of 900mb down yet most I ever got when downloading from steam was about 30mb/s

the new one can do this from anywhere I try to download from ... I used to think it was Steam restricting peoples downloads

[twin dew]

You mean 900Mb/s and 30MB/s?

[midnight osprey]

MB/s for both

[twin dew]

Which would be 240Mb/s?

[soft bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loqudG71uBM
i noticed one small thing:
its stated that helium was named by somone not familiar with naming conventions - hence the suffix "um"
but here's fun part - in eastern Europe (i checked a couple of languages) it doesn't have that suffix
its "Heliy"

[twin dew]

Almost no-one is selling 10000Mb/s Internet, and that would need 10Gbit/s cards etc. anyways.

[midnight osprey]

oh no

[twin dew]

The speed you buy is almost always in Mb/s.

[midnight osprey]

confusing the two I have!

[twin dew]

And most software use MB/s to show the download speed or like.

[midnight osprey]

either way, my former ISP sold GB internet as my current one does ... yet my current on downloads at 115MB/s and my old one never passed 35 or so

this is my speedtest

[twin dew]

But this is about at the theoretical max for 1Gbit/s Ethernet.

[midnight osprey]

the 115 figure?

[twin dew]

Yes

[midnight osprey]

so my question remains, my old ISP, advertising GB internet never passed 35MB/s

[twin dew]

Gb, MB.
8 fold difference between b(it) and B(yte).

[midnight osprey]

I understand that, lol

I am saying they both advertise 900 down

but downloading games from steam never gave me anywhere near that

[twin dew]

But ISP advertizes what you get to their network, not what you get to Internet.

[midnight osprey]

oh?

[twin dew]

Countries have had to mandate specs etc. for that kind of marketing.

[midnight osprey]

they're sneaky mofos

one things for sure, I am much happier with the new service

[twin dew]

Oversubscription is name of the game.

[midnight osprey]

yeah, the new company are running on their own hardware

[twin dew]

How many times over the actual bandwidth they have they can sell.
Often 10-100 times.

[midnight osprey]

something installed on "top" of the other poles

not using the same network, literally

[twin dew]

To account for not all users using their connections fully at same time.

[midnight osprey]

same poles in the street but different network

[twin dew]

But then crap ISPs can go way over.

[midnight osprey]

my new ISP doesn't even shape at peak times ... maybe they will eventually

[wanton orchid]

worse then, 10 100 is pretty high spec

[twin dew]

Remember that Internet is just series of tubes, and you get the speed for the slowest section.

So if the ISP has 100 customers who have been sold 1Gbit/s connection between 10Gbit/s connection from shared point to their network, that is 10x oversubscription.
And then they might have 10 of those sets behind 40Gbit/s connection, and so on.

[midnight osprey]

now I can download 100GB game in about 15 mins 😄

[twin dew]

And then the whole ISP only has X amount of bandwidth at peering point to connect to one or more of the big backbone Tier 1 ISPs etc.

[midnight osprey]

could that be why in the uk, the upload speeds are always super small?

I am on 1000/900 ... my old one was 900/100

[twin dew]

That goes partly into how the payments between ISPs usually work.
Residential ISPs don't want people uploading because they would have to pay more for the peering.

[midnight osprey]

well, I am loving the new company more and more, lol

looks like they're fully embrasing streamers

its literally part of their advertising

oh, and I am paying half the price now too!

saving about £450 a year

[twin dew]

Buy 1000/100Mbit/s 5G connection, the fine print says 10/3 as minimum guarantee.

For Elisa in Finland for example.

[midnight osprey]

YouFibre has a crazy high guarantee

compared to mainland europe ours always sucked tbh

[soft bloom]

so what makes internet in Europe so bad?
i heard that eastern Europe is just basking in good deals in comparison (including to US)

[twin dew]

Get 1000/500 fiber connection from Telia, the spec is 500-1000 down with 600 to be expected as norm, 250-500 up with 300 as to be expected as norm.

[twin dew]

Most of EU is still way better than US.
But same problem, big old companies that aren't really trying to compete.

[twin dew]

Just keep the level of service just high enough that new small nimbler competitors don't have space to enter because of the infrastructure costs.
As there wouldn't be enough takers to build alternative cabling.

[midnight osprey]

I’m on the middle one. Top one is complete overkill. So is mine tbh.

[soft bloom]

my ISP sells gigabit for about 1/5th of that price

but they are terrible at maintaining network 🙂

[midnight osprey]

Bit on the bottom is British Telecom. Bit on the top, their own tech is YouFibre

[midnight osprey]

wow, super cheap!

[twin dew]

Also the legacy ISPs got into the EU law that new fiber companies that get public funding (even as loans) cannot compete in areas where there are already option(s).
Even if those options aren't fiber IIRC but not completely sure about that.

So no building fiber networks in cities with semi-public money...

[midnight osprey]

laws are always anti competitive

[twin dew]

And where they can build, it must be "open access" rentals to all ISPs.

[wanton orchid]

that's not true

[midnight osprey]

in the UK we traditionally had 4 ways to access the internet

ADSL, Cable
Mobile Phone, Satellite Phone

[twin dew]

Not always, but in this case the ISP lobbyists got those "public support must not be used to deposit us" provisions in.

[midnight osprey]

now we have 3 land based

[wanton orchid]

and that's why there are us laws being discussed for us network

[midnight osprey]

always does not mean 100%, lol

[wanton orchid]

but that's still not true

[midnight osprey]

maybe my wordage is wrong on that one actually, lol

but I meant much of the time

it's understandable that corporations want to protect what they have already invested in

and these companies can afford to lobbie the goverment

[wanton orchid]

does not mean it should always be success lobbying

[midnight osprey]

I am not fighting for, nor against them

just acknowledging that it happens

[wanton orchid]

you went from "always" to "it happens"

[midnight osprey]

yes!

I also acknowledged that I may have chosen the wrong word

you might be surpised how much it happens

[wanton orchid]

the usefulness of the law is exactly to promote sane competition
it's just that some nasty corporations got to workaround it by lobbying for "seemingly promoting competition" laws that in the end actually refrain it

like the current patent laws

which is a complete scam btw

[midnight osprey]

yeah, there is a lot of scary shit going on out there

I am gonna give Cyberpunk another try ... apparently is a really awesome game these days

[dire igloo]

Ayo, wtf?
Symmetric speeds at those prices?

[midnight osprey]

yeah bud ... I was surprised too

[midnight osprey]

what do you pay?

[dire igloo]

40€ (Germany)
1Gbit download (realistically ~750 Mbit)
50 Mbit upload
DOCSIS

[twin dew]

That DOCSIS explains the low upload.

"Expensive" to get good upload with cable modem tech.
Both in hardware and in bandwidth needed in the cable, which would mean less download and TV channels.

[dire igloo]

Fritzbox 6590

[twin dew]

Not the user modem, at the other end of the cabling.

[dire igloo]

Oh

[jagged snow]

Yeah, symmetric on cable is very rare because of that

In the US, 500/50 and 1000/100 are common

[dire igloo]

I'm on cable cuz I don't even have fibre as an option and VDSL only does 250

[midnight osprey]

your upload is low bro!

[dire igloo]

Fucking tell me about it, welcome to German internet plans

[midnight osprey]

even on fibre in the UK, 10% ratio is common ... I was surprised with the new system

I always thought you guys had a much better deal than us in the UK!

I wonder what upload speeds would be required for the average 1080p twitch streamer?

cos I know there are many popular German streamers

[jagged snow]

50Mbps is fine as long as there's nothing else on the network

[midnight osprey]

so my 900 is overkill afterall, lol

I can't believe it

first subscription service where I have never felt ripped off! lol

[jagged snow]

I'm currently paying $20/mo for 100/100
My parents pay $80/mo for 1000/1000

[midnight osprey]

thats higher than expected

the $20 plan seams reasonable though

[jagged snow]

Price is set to double in about a year

[midnight osprey]

yikes

[twin dew]

Twitch IIRC doesn't accept more than 6Mbit/s in?

[jagged snow]

And this for a very rural area

[midnight osprey]

I am sure mine will after the 2 year contract ends

[jagged snow]

Something like that

[midnight osprey]

twitch doesn't do 4k?

[twin dew]

No.
And the spec on Twitch pages still tops up at 1920x1080@60Hz, with 6000kbit/s bitrate.

8500 seems to be actual max for video + audio + overhead.

[midnight osprey]

maybe higher for partners?

I believe they have different tiers

I was only affiliate I think it was called

I really should get back into it

[twin dew]

Ah, that actual max depends on where you live.
"crappiest" regions can only do 6500 total.

[midnight osprey]

ya know whats wierd?

in real life intereactions, I do not sound like I have a speach impediment

online I sound like I have a minor one!

so minor that most do not notice

[dire igloo]

Twitch only does 8 Mbit max, so you don't need any more than that

[dire igloo]

On paper yes. Tho you can give it eight (which it says is for partners only) and it'll still work

Source: that's how I have my ob's set up for esports broadcasts

[twin dew]

Seems to be region based.
Western countries get up to that 8500, but parts of Asia for example are just 6500 max.

For the total bitrate, not just video.

[dire igloo]

These are EU/US numbers

[dire igloo]

Ah yeah. 500 for audio then. Makes sense

[twin dew]

There is the video, then audio, then the container format, then some additional overhead over the container.

[rocky yarrow]

Heh, so yeah, I dunno -- I feel like LibreOffice just got bad somehow

I dunno when it happened exactly

[inland scroll]

@hardy compass Google Docs are definitely the best Linux office suite, but I need something that can seamlessly handle downloaded files (from emails and such)

[rocky yarrow]

I used to use that thing back in the StarOffice days, even. :D

Wasn't it something else even before StarOffice?

[hardy compass]

tried OpenOffice?

[rocky yarrow]

I guess not

[inland scroll]

LibreOffice feels sluggish, it can't do seemingly basic features (or do them in a convoluted manner), and on top of that I had the document layout explode more than once

I have tried OpenOffice too, could hardly notice a difference

[hardy compass]

idk I've used it a few times for some basic work and it was fine

never had an issue with it but also never used it for anything more than a few minutes of checking a document and maybe making a few changes

[inland scroll]

I'll give OpenOffice another look, it's been a while

[stray badger]

LibreOffice

not openoffice

[prisma yoke]

They just said they dont like the libre pack

[inland scroll]

missed my message? @stray badger

[stray badger]

open office isn't particularly great

its also dead

[edgy hazel]

isn't libleoffice openoffice?

[rocky yarrow]

Yeah, I thought that libre was the "alive" fork from Open

It's been awhile since I've actually looked into it though

[inland scroll]

they're both derived from StarOffice, so look and function really similarly

[edgy hazel]

It was forked in 2010 from OpenOffice.org,

[rocky yarrow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice

^ looks like Apache took it over eventually though; interesting

New versions as recently as last December, so presumably still active

[edgy hazel]

anyways. Libre sucks aswell

[rocky yarrow]

Yeah. I really wonder what happened, 'cause I remember it being quite good originally

I suppose maybe it was just OpenOffice.org which was good, and then Libre just kind of chipped away at it?

[stray badger]

i think it got bought by oracle

[stray badger]

libre office has worked well for me

[prisma yoke]

Just out of curiosity, what's bad about these suites?

[rocky yarrow]

Like many folks, it's been ages since I really had to deal with that kind of document, so I haven't really kept up. I just work in Markdown mostly nowadays. :)

[edgy hazel]

I just use the web version of 365

[rocky yarrow]

I don't have anything specific to point to personally, just that every time I do have to boot it up, I seems I'm presented with bizarre problems and overall jankiness. Like it just doesn't feel "right"

A very helpful bugreport, that. :)

"Your software feels kind of Lynchian. Plz fix."

[prisma yoke]

Huh that's interesting, I also have to boot it very rarely, and its usually the spreadsheet but everything feels okay to me

[edgy hazel]

^

[inland scroll]

I remember pasting data into a spreadsheet wrecking the formatting, not splitting the cells or otherwise interpreting the data incorrectly

Besides the nonspecific jank, it just feels slow, not just by the time it takes to do something, but also by the time the program executes a task

[rocky yarrow]

I do, alas, tend to just use Google Sheets for spreadsheet stuff nowadays. It doesn't help w/ that that when I am using that, it's generally in the context of wanting to collaborate with other folks (or at least easily share a "canonical" source), so the web functionality is hard to beat

Not that I like giving my data + time to Google, but c'est la vie

[dire igloo]

Open Office was good, then the devs had a disagreement, libre office was split off, open office fell behind

[rocky yarrow]

I should give Apache OpenOffice a try, though -- perhaps they've been handling it better

[prisma yoke]

Honestly true, 99% of the time I need to use an office suite is to then share it with folks, hardly ever the online version of m365 isnt the only viable option

[inland scroll]

but MS Office isn't perfect either, I had Word freeze/crash after changing paragraph styling, plus the online version is a nightmare

[prisma yoke]

Like apocalyptech said, the online functionality is a big positive

[inland scroll]

the online version, is like, astonishingly bad

[rocky yarrow]

Hah, yeah, that is true re: MS. I do have to interact with those occasionally for work and it's sometimes shocking how incompetent Microsoft seems

[dire igloo]

Tho this applies to all of them

[rocky yarrow]

We've entered the long dark teatime of the office productivity suite in general, I guess

[midnight osprey]

in windows, is it possible to reverse the left and right speakers? I am thinking about putting my JBL Partybox 110 behind me

[inland scroll]

one of the family computers due reinstallation has Office 2003 which works flawlessly

[midnight osprey]

for when I game

[prisma yoke]

ah right the link protect

[inland scroll]

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/how-to-swap-left-and-right-audio-channels/4191afce-6933-41e7-bc9c-ba1d9a14b381

[midnight osprey]

nice find, thanks

[prisma yoke]

unfair

[inland scroll]

blue name privilege

[prisma yoke]

I feel discriminated against

[midnight osprey]

lmfao

[sage pier]

how does my fiber isp go down so much?

isn't that 10k a minute or something because fiber runs off the government?

[wanton orchid]

iirc apache openoffice was better for a while, but it flipped back recently and openoffice got stall

now libreoffice got most of openoffice features

[sage pier]

It might just be their residential fiber but still 99.99% reliability my ass

[prisma yoke]

hey at the very least you are not alone, my fiber optic would also go down often when it was new

it got better over time tough, nowadays the wifi is down rarely, but it still happens a good few dozen times a year

[sage pier]

this fiber isp has been around since 1969

[prisma yoke]

By new i mean it was freshly installed in my neighbourhood but fair point regardless

[sage pier]

I'm paying for gigabit but if I do a speed test thats not in my state it goes to 160 mbps down and up

[sharp oasis]

USA try not to be fucking stupid challenge impossible

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cooling/us-sanctions-pc-cooling-and-power-supply-maker-deepcool-for-selling-products-to-russia-fueling-its-war-efforts-in-ukraine

[charred pewter]

just stick AI into it... its half right half the time

[pure karma]

i mean the reassoning is about as brainwashed as it gets but i dont particularly hate the possible outcomes

[charred pewter]

hmm

our store still sells to russians ... are we fueling the war effort by selling steam games to russians??? US gonna put sanctions on us !

[charred pewter]

at first i thought you were posting a pride tank =p

[stray badger]

Coolers for computers and other processors, such as those used to design parts, or even those actually found inside of weapons

And since the point is to hurt their economy, we dont want anything to be getting shipped there

[tough owl]

which it isnt working out too well

[sharp oasis]

I still find it really stupid as the sanctions really haven't done tons to them

And normally if they don't have business in the us

They lose buisnes in Canada too.

And with trudie I sence he's gonna sanction it too

[tough owl]

the resolution is wrong its like half that res

[jagged snow]

Upscaling or ssaa?

[tough owl]

I believe ssaa

but im not sure entirely

[jagged snow]

That would be why then

[tough owl]

I do know it was just the "performance" preset

[jagged snow]

Oh then def not ssaa

[tough owl]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I know it aint metalFX

is there a save that would bring most machines to its knees, im tempted to try it

[steel peak]

anyone have recommendation for a UPS

modem router 1pc + some low powered servers

[tough owl]

do you care about pure sine wave stuff?

[sharp oasis]

@jagged snow the acs on

And I'm going for 5ghz

21c in windows

5ghz plsssss

[languid gulch]

lol

i couldn't get down to 21C right now if i tried

27 in the house right now, & that's with the AC on

[sharp oasis]

@languid gulch

How I'm cooling

[languid gulch]

at least it's on the box

should tilt that rad up tho so it's not just sucking in carpet fuzz

OH

i see it now 🤣 nice

dirty cheater

i'm used to vents near the ceiling

[sharp oasis]

Hehehebe

[languid gulch]

i'm still thinking that there'll be some kind of heat exchanger or tap-in in houses in the future for cooling PCs

[sharp oasis]

If I get a house I'm getting that

[languid gulch]

or like a straight precooler duct

[stray badger]

Connect your PC to the fridge

[minor scarab]

how big is the difference between a 7600x and a 7800x3d? should I just bite the bullet and go for the x3d? that was my plan originally but someone on another discord told me the x3d would be overkill

asking here because my main concern for choosing the CPU is satisfactory

[languid gulch]

ngl i'd wait a bit to see what the reviews of the 9000 series look like

[tough owl]

hopefully its good

[charred pewter]

yeah it wont be

[languid gulch]

but good or bad, i'm expecting a price adjustment on the 7000 series after

[charred pewter]

you'd think... i mean they arnt nvidia

[stray badger]

already started

7800x3d is much better than 7600x tho

[languid gulch]

oh definitely

[stray badger]

you should get a 7950x3d /j

[charred pewter]

no joke do it !

[stray badger]

mine has been pretty good

havent stressed it too much yet

[sharp oasis]

@languid gulch

I got one more place and 25-50ish mhz

[languid gulch]

i thought we were sticking to 7000 series

[sharp oasis]

I never have had benched 7k series

[steel peak]

no just need stuff to power off safely

[languid gulch]

car battery

[languid gulch]

(kidding btw, don't do that)

[twin dew]

For Satisfactory specifically, the difference from the large cache is huge.
For many other things the difference is not that meaningful.

In HUBs Factorio benchmark, the 7800X3D was almost twice as fast as the rest of the 7000-series CPUs.
(Including 7950X3D as the game was running on the wrong cores by default).

And Satisfactory is in same ballpark.

Still difference in normal games too, but not as large: (doesn't include Factorio in this one)

[dire igloo]

We see regular AAA titles become cache reliant too now - this is for Baldur's Gate 3

5800X3D casually matching 13900K

[dire igloo]

I don't second this advice.
9000 series was announced without an X3D product stack and we already know that Satisfactory is super cache reliant (see above)
So unless we know when 9800X3D will be a thing, my advice is to go with 7800X3D - or even 5700X3D if they're on AM4 right now

[twin dew]

X3Ds will probably again arrive half a year later.

[languid gulch]

i forgot that they didn't announce any X3Ds this time around. yea, 7800X3D if you can afford it

[twin dew]

Neither did they last time around.

The initial 7000-series stuff didn't include any mention of X3Ds.
Those were mentioned only much later and actually launched only 4-6 months after the normal 7000s:s

[languid gulch]

i always forget because i tend not to consider the initial announcement as "the announcement" since nothing they say actually matters until it's in the hands of independent reviewers

so my memory's always off by at least a couple months

[twin dew]

7000 normals were in fall 2022 IIRC, then X3D:s were mentioned in january 2023.
7950X3D was out in february, 7900X3D was one month later IIRC, and 7800X3D was two months later?

[twin dew]

So the 9000 V-Caches seem to be in the works based on interviews with AMD people, but will be released later than the non-V-caches (again), with rumors being CES in January 2025 as expected reveal.

[soft bloom]

it scares me

[wanton orchid]

it would be heat exchanger to prevent contamination

and on closed loop for such low load, you can easily do small heat exchanger that's performant enough

[edgy hazel]

People always post this but don't notice that this image is 32 times the size of the lunar mission’s memory

[twin dew]

79.3 KB when compressed.
About 2,13 MB when uncompressed, like it is in RAM for display.

[jagged snow]

Iirc the gamers Nexus coverage mentioned something about 9k x3d coming sooner than usual it that was likely just rumor

My recommendation would be to wait for 9000 release and then buy a 7800x3d

[edgy hazel]

misquil

[languid gulch]

first time i'm seeing it, but i'd say "my squeal"

[charred pewter]

mysql ?

My Sea-Quill

[languid gulch]

uhhhhh i don't

[charred pewter]

its how i was brought up whem SQL was always pronounced "See-quill" in the company

[languid gulch]

i don't work in the industry, so i have no idea

[charred pewter]

but some people say "Ess Que El" ... which is just too much effort

seequill is easier

[languid gulch]

unless it's a really obvious jump to a "normal" word or a well-known industry term, i'll just say the letters

[charred pewter]

sequel yeah ... definitely close enough

more 'ill' than 'all' though

but then we have butchering of the english around theres tharn murican parts

[languid gulch]

& my brain would jump to "sequel" faster if it was CQL

[charred pewter]

CQL to me looks like "cockill"

[languid gulch]

🤣

[charred pewter]

zed squee all !

[languid gulch]

it's like reading some of those vanity license plates that you need to decode

[charred pewter]

haha

oh yes

if a website is running apache and php, its a good chance its also using mysql

its a pretty tough n tumble database, free license too, so its pretty popular

[languid gulch]

what, COBOL too good for you?

[charred pewter]

all i can say is apache+php+mysql is 10000% better than iis+tango+oracle

and costs 10000% less

[edgy hazel]

mongo gang

[charred pewter]

but really, if you know SQL, any SQL based database is just ... the underlying tech.

[edgy hazel]

tbh idk shit about mongodb. My unify stack is usung it. It's still planned to switch it to postgresql

[charred pewter]

i self taught myself perl in a weekend for an intern job at motorola ... used the O'Reily book on perl

motorola used a unix system, with a filemakerpro database ... so i ended up just writing my own data storage in flatfiles 😄 they used that fricken project management website I built them for TEN YEARS before finally moving off it

and no, i wasnt 'that good' either, i was an intern, thrown into something ive never done before and cobbled something together 😄

i also didnt make any money off it cause it was an internship =p

but it was cool ... they gave me executive level security clearance and i could go anywhere in the plant, and do anything on their unix systems LOL ...

first day, the exec was like "to make things easier, just gonna give you top level like me, use this badge" and handed me a badge ...

oh how security was more lax in the days when hacks n malicious shit wasnt so rampant

social engineering is all the rage now... its crazy how people click things in emails without thinkin

[edgy hazel]

sometimes it's just a plaintext password on a confluence page

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[visual tree]

Our IT department always manages to fool everyone lol. They do phishing simulations randomly and create really convincing emails

[charred pewter]

or someone looking at their passwords on windows 11 when they had Recall running

[visual tree]

Last phishing simulation was about euro 2024 jersey with company logo and everyone went crazy lol

[charred pewter]

someone signed up to our site, and took the 'welcome' email body, then slapped a new subject on it and spammed a bunch of people who had their emails stolen (haveibeenpwned) ... changing the link in the welcome email to phishing malware ....

one person actually was kind enough to email us about the 'odd email, i didnt sign up?' ... and sent us a copy of it.

sure enough... total bogus. didnt even have the right 'from' and such.

such low effort to accomplish nothing

[visual tree]

Wish more companies used anti-phishing code so registered users can define their own code and know if a company email is authentic or not

[charred pewter]

the issue we find with adding more ways to secure your account ... most people never bother. and when you 'force' those ways on... a lot of people complain

[visual tree]

My bank still doesn't support single-use virtual card so I need to use revolut sometimes

[charred pewter]

apple pay is really good

but you need a damned iphone

[edgy hazel]

I use paypal lol

https://tenor.com/view/punished-corner-corners-in-the-corner-bad-gif-17791310

[charred pewter]

its SO FUN testing apple pay integrations .... gotta have a valid iphone, and bank linked icloud account, and jump through hoops LD

[languid gulch]

i'm sure they'll switch over to dogecoin soon

[charred pewter]

paypal .... you know ....

[edgy hazel]

yeah got nothing else other than that and my bank

[charred pewter]

there was a time they had serious hacked account issues ... but the last solid YEAR there hasnt been a single case with us

[edgy hazel]

fuck the CC industry

[visual tree]

Our company vending machines support google/apple pay but for some weird reason, they don't always detect bank cards properly

[edgy hazel]

paypal sucks just as much just so you know

[charred pewter]

and fuck their ridiculous transaction fees agaisnt merchants

[edgy hazel]

but I need something easy sometimes. Not every website supports SEPA/Giropay

[pure karma]

solution... don't have a phone to begin whit

[charred pewter]

i hear 'venmo' is popular among gamers

[visual tree]

My bank completely ditched Visa and offers Mastercard only, guess I have no choice....

[charred pewter]

never used it, seen it, touched it

[pure karma]

then dont pay and use the money to buy the phone instead

yea no but to be honest i think paying by swipping your phone is just a great way to get scammed

yea i dont have a phone and i dont plan on getting one anytime soon

[charred pewter]

we used to have a gateway account where they charged us 20 cents for every API call ... every api call ... even a call to say "delete this vaulted card" .... we moved to a new gateway =p

lol

i dont pay with phone ... its a phone ... not a credit card

i just whip out my platinum titanium verbranium credit card and wave it over the reader ... then while i wait, i lightly tap it so it does a 'tink tink tink' ringing of metal sound ...

[edgy hazel]

and then it declines

[charred pewter]

😆

[pure karma]

to me a phone is as valuable as a plastic bottle left on the side of the road... just wasted material only good for the trash

[edgy hazel]

gimme cold hard CASH

[charred pewter]

err: Insufficient Funds

[edgy hazel]

tbh I have nothing against paying with a card. It's just shitty that banks invented timezones

[charred pewter]

WOO OOO DST RULES WOO DOOO POO

[visual tree]

I need a time machine in order to travel to 2025

Reason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjrtoFazU1U

[languid gulch]

we should restart the computer industry starting at punch cards

[night girder]

I would travel backwards

[visual tree]

The gaming industry might be getting worse but at least there will be some good games in the future

*although rare

[languid gulch]

the Little Nightmares games always gave me 9 movie vibes

[night girder]

Never played them tbh.

Am I missing out?

[languid gulch]

i've watched them on streams/highlights, they look like fun

side scroller mystery/horror/puzzle

[visual tree]

The game has some creepy and grotesque monsters

[night girder]

Few days ago I read there is also a new civilization game in the make.

[languid gulch]

need a PSN account for it?

[charred pewter]

yet another paradox civ game coming yes

they already have 20 DLCs lined up

oh wait

Sid Civ isnt paradox ... its 2K .. eh, same thing

[night girder]

17 Curators have reviewed this product. Click here to see them.

Release Date: 2025

Wtf steam 🤣

[stray badger]

gold bullion

[visual tree]

Gold-pressed latinum

lol

[sharp oasis]

Graduated today.

[pure karma]

nice

anyway i guess its time for me to learn some Linux

[pure karma]

got a linux boot in but it died time for attempt 2

[tough owl]

[pure karma]

windows bluescreened trying to restart 😂

actually i have an idea on whats likely interfering

ok apparently nothing was interfering it was just trying to keep launching windows while in the bios and getting insanely confused

thats probably because i nerver changed boot 1 from windows to disabled

should i do alongside or just wipe the drive i doubt il really need 2 windows pc's for the summer

[tough owl]

man has not heard of a vm

[peak cedar]

Is there any word on the Steam Deck being able to run the 1.0 build?

[pure karma]

true i havent

ight its installing

i actually accomplished something for once

[pure karma]

welp I'm likely gonna be here all night

its downlaoding everything at 0.1MBPS

leave it to linux to be the only thing to have given me a instruction manual in the last year

[pure karma]

im guessing if steam dosent give me a This PC option the game isent supported on linux?

ok dam like 90% of my steam library doesn't support linux 🤣

[pure karma]

more than 90% actually i can only play 4 out of my 61 games

[tough owl]

bro did not enable steam play

www.protondb.com/

[pure karma]

so what i just get proton 9.0?

[stray badger]

odd, almost all of my games work just fine on linux

[maiden coyote]

Installing openwty be like that

[languid gulch]

not enough loose flux & solder

[maiden coyote]

The mess of progress

[tough owl]

he didnt enable steam play

theyre all grayed out cuz of it

[pure karma]

honestly i dont think my wifi has ever felt slower

and the worst part its downloading stuff faster than normal because the Alienware has a better wifi card 💀

[sage pier]

Ever since my fiber isp went down for 10 minutes every 20 minutes its cut out and in very annoying for downloading a game or playing an online game

[maiden coyote]

this is what you need.

[pure karma]

the sad part is its probably still better

[languid gulch]

$95 minions IP fee

[sage pier]

why is it 10 dollars less than the original axe5400 lol

[wanton orchid]

and also you pay premium because "the bandwidth is costly"
while they run ads on their own bandwidth for 4 times less money than premium membership

that is straight up malignant

I mean if they want to restrain people from subscribing premium even though it would get them more stability to make premium closer to ad actual revenues
is straight malignant
it's not even good for the holy dollar directly speaking

i.e they want people to sub premium by coercion
/ keep other business control over ad flow management

[tough owl]

i dont like this

no

[midnight osprey]

hey guys, I have been using a whiteboard to plan my daily activities, I am thinking of literally switching to a large monitor and putting that on my wall ... does anyone know how can work out the cost of running that monitor x hours per day?

[edgy hazel]

stay with the whiteboard

[midnight osprey]

lol

I want something I can easily edit, and panels that cycle with inspirational quotes, reminders, etc

trying to manage my lack of action (ADHD thing)

[tough owl]

take the wattage it pulls from the wall and then do the math based off your price per kwh your city charges

[edgy hazel]

you'll also need a large monitor with touch/pen support for it to be useful.

just mount an old iPad next to your whiteboard

[midnight osprey]

don't have an ipod but I have some spare android tablets

so now I need to consider a good app for that too

[edgy hazel]

that's enough. You'll spare yourself the self hatred once you realize that your "digital whiteboard" project you've already spent 400€ on actually kinda sucks compared to your old whiteboard

[charred pewter]

and there goes all the DeepCool products from our local MicroCenter

[edgy hazel]

i mean.... is that really a loss?

[charred pewter]

wernt their stuff good? .... trying to think if i ever bought anything of theirs

[edgy hazel]

it's super mid

not trash tier but still

[charred pewter]

seems i got Arctic Cooling stuff, and Thermalright stuff ... NZXT .... nope, nothing deepcool

[edgy hazel]

I had an AIO from them

the one with the little tube

[tough owl]

i mean deepcool made some decent budget cases

[edgy hazel]

I still have the fans somewhere

The pump died ofc

[tough owl]

remember how youtube changed their algoritm recently

the masterpieces I get recommended

[edgy hazel]

Chickenburger and cheeseburger combo is underrated

[midnight osprey]

time will tell

I might just drive it off my PC as I am here a lot of the time

[edgy hazel]

I am telling you right now. No need to wait for time to do that

[midnight osprey]

lol

[edgy hazel]

I'm just trying to save you from that disappointment. It's an expensive project

[midnight osprey]

budget is not my concern bud

[visual tree]

German citizenship test: Currywurst or Fish & Chips

If you say Fish & Chips, you get deported

[edgy hazel]

true but I'd kill for some good fish&chips rn

I'm too landlocked here 😦

[midnight osprey]

lmao, we love that meal in the UK

now I am tempted to go pick some up too!

[charred pewter]

fast food ... mm

[edgy hazel]

bro I work in Frankfurt. Try getting lunch without inevitable going for fastfood

[midnight osprey]

goodness me ... this costs the same as a replacement remote for apple TV, lol

[edgy hazel]

also currywurst is healthy

[midnight osprey]

I can't believe I lost my remote

[edgy hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/big-bad-wolf-three-little-pigs-salivating-mouthwatering-gif-11189610

also if you're ever in germany and you have the chance to go to a bestworscht, do it.

I bet @dire igloo can confirm

[midnight osprey]

is that a sausage place?

[dire igloo]

I can neither confirm or deny these allegations.

[edgy hazel]

yeah you can pick your spicyness and flavour

[midnight osprey]

I really need to go and live in germany for a while ... maybe next summer for 3 months or so

[dire igloo]

Never had bestworscht, so no clue

[dire igloo]

But places like these are all over the place

[edgy hazel]

you gotta. Go for a B+ with Cheezy and ask for some fresh onions on it

[dire igloo]

Get yourself a Currywurst from a place that offers variable spicyness

[midnight osprey]

MS Whiteboard ... LFG

[dire igloo]

Bruhhhhh, they got one place in Munich and the rest is lumped around Frankfurt

[edgy hazel]

oh rip

well if you're ever in frankfurt you know what to do lol

[dire igloo]

Darmstadt, Aschaffenburg, Mainz
Aside from Munich, that's pretty much as far away as it goes from Frankfurt

Oh, one in Gießen too.
Might actually check that one out at some point, always wanted to visit alternate so I can combine the two

[edgy hazel]

wait there is a physical alternate in frankfurt

[dire igloo]

Gießen

Linden more specifically

maps.app.goo.gl/R2x4Z2DX2W1fLTWD7

[edgy hazel]

oh nice I'll go through there on my trip to marburg

[dire igloo]

Has some "we got Microcenter at home" vibes but honestly, after seeing Mindfactory in Wilhelmshaven, I'm kinda stoked

[edgy hazel]

man I'm so sad that all the hobbyist stores are going out of business...

[dire igloo]

Mükra still exists, so I'm happy

[edgy hazel]

I'm a majo guy personally

[charred pewter]

all the microplastics are slowly replacing the bad organic shit, so we will evolve into synthetic beings

[edgy hazel]

the way my pla prints break idk if I want that

[charred pewter]

LOL

cant it be any worse than failing organics ?

[edgy hazel]

make me out of petg at least

[sage pier]

That comes with the stick

[sage pier]

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-alexa-voice-remote-pro/dp/B09RX4HKTD

idk if this is in your country but try to find a similar listing that doesn't include the streaming device

[languid gulch]

laughs in 40C

[sage pier]

laughs in 46C

lol

[dire igloo]

Except UK houses are built without AC with the main focus to trap heat inside - and they usually have a high humidity level too

[midnight osprey]

Omg. I miss global warming.

I really do, lol

We have highs of just 15c at the moment

[stray badger]

only a bit above room temperature

its gonna hit 28c today and i consider that to be "eh kinda warm i guess"

[visual tree]

They are going to unveil the robotaxi project here in 10 days, I wonder how robotaxi AI is going to figure out our roads lol 🤣

Even humans can't understand our illogical roads and traffic signs, AI is going to struggle too

[tough owl]

There’s no patterns for of our illogical road design for ai to follow

[visual tree]

AI car software is going to crash here in the first 5 minutes lol

There is no amount of intelligence or experience which will help you navigate our roads

[edgy hazel]

self driving cars love this

[visual tree]

Didn't realize that is a thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr51RvvcBL0

[languid gulch]

yea they just recalled all the waymos around the valley here

[twin dew]

The neural network or programming isn't again context sensitive, just cares that there is a "sign" that it recognizes.

[visual tree]

Wait till someone decides to wear a t-shirt with 130 km/h speed limit

[languid gulch]

there's a big issue showing up where the self driving & emergency assist stuff hasn't been trained to follow traffic cop orders, so they'll just see a pedestrian in the way & sit there

[edgy hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-gif-21587276

[languid gulch]

lol

i love chatting with people who think that companies don't exist to make money

[visual tree]

Lol, the first lesson we had back in college is that the main objective of a business is profit maximization

Although it was obvious back in elementary school

[languid gulch]

oh yea this person's bought into the corporate "personal motivation" BS as if $$ isn't the thing that it's all dependent on

[soft bloom]

but, but, what about ideas? patriotism? making lifes of employees better?

[languid gulch]

lol

get paid enough and assistance with problems to show employees loyalty and they'll stick around

shockingly

[visual tree]

Not sure if it's true but people say companies used to pay trips to exotic places 40 years ago. Today, that is unimaginable

[soft bloom]

i was trying to understand that sentence but it simply messes up subject

[languid gulch]

🤣 lemme rewrite

if you pay employees enough and help them out when there's a problem, the company gets their loyalty

[languid gulch]

either they'd pay & basically write it off on taxes, or they'd pay employees enough to be able to afford it outright

my parents owned their first house at 28, free & clear, & they were considered middle class in the late 70s

[visual tree]

Yeah. Back in the days, you could afford a house and a car on a single income.

Today, a single person can barelly afford to pay rent

[languid gulch]

some of the places in my neighborhood go up on the market, & the pictures of the interior for the prices being asked are just hilarious

30 year old untouched bathrooms

[charred pewter]

honetly ... why spend $20k on a bathroom reno that 'you' may think looks good, but then the new buyer just reno's it anyways after they move in cause they didnt like it

just leave it a blank slate for them to do it

[languid gulch]

there's that, but when they're asking the prices they're asking for, to me it better be fucking updated

[charred pewter]

hehe

ive seen dumpster fire homes going for high amounts, and people still buy them because they live in a dumpster fire house and dont think anything of it

it took me a long time to find a house i would move into... because the vast majority of them were trash ... beat up, bad paint, terrible fixtures, broken shit everywhere

and its like 'normal' it seems to the majority around here

[languid gulch]

the value's just not remotely there, at least to me

[charred pewter]

my bathroom needs a remodel ... but since its just me, ive not found the real urge to do so since as is, it works, and im not in my bathroom more than the minutes i need to shower and get ready, or go to the bathroom .... its not like a day spa =p its a bathroom

[languid gulch]

especially when it's cheapo 2x4 stick houses

[charred pewter]

yeah

developer homes

some farm sold, and they come in and throw up matchstick homes for pennies

they dont last, they fall apart, people try to sell them and they are just a mess of problems

[languid gulch]

just checked on the house i grew up in in the early 90s. was like $110k at the time, it was basically untouched last time i drove by it, showing up on zillow for almost $500k now

[charred pewter]

its why i hunt for 100yo homes ... they been around, they stood the test of time 😄

house im in now is 99

100yo in 2025 🙂

and its been so solid compared to every other home i been in that was 'new built'

[languid gulch]

around here 40 years counts as old

[charred pewter]

yeah? so not even a 60s pale brick house?

[languid gulch]

that'd probably be on the historic register if it's not too run down

[charred pewter]

i never signed up for the historical society because they come in worse than a HOA demanding all manner of shit be done/redone/changed LOL

[languid gulch]

the city around here will sometimes just declare it for you

[charred pewter]

"this tree isnt historical period, take it out!" ... but but its a 80yo tree!. ... "NO! its not the right breed!"

they walk up with paint swtches, and if you are even a shade off, they want you to repaint the whole house 😄

[languid gulch]

there's really 2 types of "old houses" around here. historical, well maintained, insane price, or run-down, impossible to maintain, and impossible to live in because of no A/C

[charred pewter]

... but paint fades ...

ooof

yeah, the well maintained historical places are crazy cost

[languid gulch]

it's 38C headed for 44C today

[charred pewter]

oooooooof

[languid gulch]

so yea, A/C is beyond a necessity here

[night girder]

Reminds me how cars in EU have mandatory braking now if you go above the speed limit.

[visual tree]

Some asshole wanted €300 here for a 12 square meter apartment. The apartment is very outdated....

[charred pewter]

i need it for the 90° F days here that happen randomly through summer

[night girder]

Put a sign that says 10 KM/H next to a freeway, and watch chaos unfold. It's the most stupid EU ruling I heard in a while. And I can't wait for shit to hit the fan.

[visual tree]

Average rent price here is €15 per square meter and the apartment above is €25 per square meter....

[charred pewter]

¢25 ?

[night girder]

but if my car has that shit on it, I am buying a device to hack it. Forgot it's name.

[visual tree]

25 euros per square meter

[charred pewter]

😄

[languid gulch]

depending on what's around it, that might not be too bad

[charred pewter]

still at 300, thats very cheap compared to what rent goes for around here (renting is more than my mortgage)

[languid gulch]

here you need a car because everything useful is driving distance, & mass transit is garbage

[visual tree]

My colleague at work gave up finding a new apartment because he couldn't find a decent one for a normal price

[charred pewter]

and then theres that .... so many apartments are just general trash to begin with

bad landlords, bad upkeep, people who rented it before dont care, so its just run down

[visual tree]

Here, we calculate how "expensive" rent is based on price per square meter since it's a more accurate measurement

[languid gulch]

if i could build a "proper" tiny house, i'd do it

[night girder]

here you need a car too because public transportation is crap.

[night girder]

👆

[languid gulch]

our bus stops don't even have fans

it's 10am & almost 40

[charred pewter]

i'd go for a small house, on a big lot .... the further away neighbors, the better ... then just build a small home of just the things i need! although Peanut would object, because i would leave out her entire floor of open wood floors to romp around in

[night girder]

www.brusselstimes.com/855280/self-braking-cars-all-new-cars-to-be-fitted-with-speed-limiting-technology

What can go wrong 🤷‍♂️

[languid gulch]

i kinda want to build a tiny house in a shipping container. have it look like crap on the outside so that nobody thinks it's valuable & leaves it alone

[charred pewter]

self braking cars... oh, is that what you were on about with the speed limit sign

[night girder]

Yes, they read the signs. If you go above, they hit the brake. Or the gas pedal stops working.

[charred pewter]

ha

[charred pewter]

right 😄 camo house ...

[night girder]

This technology detects the speed limit in force in the zone through which the car is travelling using cameras and sensors that work in conjunction with the vehicle's GPS. The ISA technology has already become widespread, as it has been compulsory on all new models since 2022.

And GPS can't be trusted either.

More shit that EU is forcing upon us, but we are free 😉

[charred pewter]

yeah, a lot of times the GPS in my car thinks im on the side road next to an interstate or freeway

[languid gulch]

i liked the idea of mandatory backup cameras, but yea, some of this tech still needs to be worked on because it's a solid 10 years off of being ready

[night girder]

Eh, I will buy a obdeleven.

[languid gulch]

🤣

OBD2

it's a roman numeral

[night girder]

obdeleven.com shit is confusing.

[languid gulch]

wait what

oh weird

[night girder]

But something like that, that allows me to enable and disable features.

Drivers can also switch off the system, but it will automatically reactivate the next time the vehicle is restarted since the system is connected to the ignition.

It's like auto start/stop feature. I can disable it. But it always enables again 😂

🎵 "Hey teacher politician, leave those ~~kids ~~ cars alone!" 🎵

[languid gulch]

i did like seeing LTT do the modernization stuff to that 2004 civic a few weeks ago

[night girder]

I don't watch LTT anymore 😄

[languid gulch]

it kinda felt like the old days

janky as fuck, but really useful

if the AI stuff associated with sign & pedestrian sensors wasn't crap, it'd be nice

my car has been trying to make me blow out my tires on potholes, because i have to swerve to avoid them. but it thinks i'm "leaving the lane" and yanks me back

[night girder]

Really, I want to have control over my car. At all times.

[languid gulch]

yup

either that or no control & no liability

[night girder]

There is enough stuff happening while I drive (other drivers, pedestrians etc) if my car has a will of it's own, that doesn't put me at ease.

[languid gulch]

full self driving or lemme drive it

[night girder]

I once saw a BMW, make a full stop (from 70KM/H) in front of a orange light. Like it was the car itself, because the back lights started to blink for danger. When I pulled next to the driver, I could see he was in shock.

[languid gulch]

i did finally figure out (now that i have a car with the features) why people are just crap on the road. the lane departure & emergency brake assist stuff shuts off at 45mph/70kph, so people will intentionally drive slow to mess around on their phone to "stay on the road".

[night girder]

That pisses me off.

I always try to be a conscience driver, pay attention to whatever I can.

And I still improve my driving as much as I can. Because I never want to hit anybody or cause an accident.

And then I see people drive around without a care in the world.

Like, how freaking hard is it, to put on your blinkers when you switch lane?

[languid gulch]

BMW doesn't make cars with blinkers

[night girder]

It's literally, one finger that pushes a handle up... or down... 1 finger!

I do it on automatic pilot. I haven't blinked maybe 2-3 in my life and I immediately knew I fucked up.

Benelux has terrible drivers imo. Pretty arrogant. Don't think the rules apply for them.

[languid gulch]

cars to dread on the road:
-BMW
-Prius
-Dodge Ram

[visual tree]

I feel more confident driving my 14 year old manual car than my parents car because their car is automatic and has all of those "security" features

[night girder]

And I can fully get that.

[visual tree]

At least I am in complete control when driving my old Seat Leon

[night girder]

Mercedes of mine once braked, because pedestrian appeared from between cars. maybe 30-50 meters down the street 😂 I was like "wtf????"

In a 30 KM/H zone even!

The system was clearly confused, maybe the sun, maybe the distance calculation was wrong, but my car braked.

Could even been 100 meters, it was reaaaaly reaaaly far.

[soft bloom]

is there anyone who found LLMs helpful for data analysis/science/statistics?

[languid gulch]

a couple years ago Teslas were hitting the emergency brakes because they thought the full moon was a yellow light

[night girder]

Yes.

[visual tree]

My former boss had a mercedes and he was a very bad driver. If the car didn't have emergency braking, we would have crashed 10 times already lol

[edgy hazel]

been in use in that field for years before chatgpt

[night girder]

Have you seen the release system for when cybertruck charger get stuck?

[languid gulch]

oh god no

[soft bloom]

which one? cause i get terrible results anytime i ask something what i don't know /not sure math about

[night girder]

You have to peel back some plastic and pull a chord 😂

[languid gulch]

HA

i did have to do some exploring to figure out how to get my car to unlock & start if the keyfob was dead, that was fun

[soft bloom]

sorry, let me correct a question: LLM as assistant in doing something

[night girder]

www.reddit.com/r/CyberStuck/comments/1df9kce/cybercharger_got_cyberstuck/

at around 0.30 you can see he has to pull some sort of chord 😂

[languid gulch]

the whole "let's get rid of anything mechanical & have it be a solenoid" is one of the dumbest fucking things

"the tesla is intelligent" sir, your entire post is proof that it ain't

[night girder]

Wait, maybe I misunderstood you. I used GPT 3.5 Turbo with Duckduckgo AI. No need for account. No data. And private.

[soft bloom]

ok. strange...

now i'm interested in hearing what were you asking, and then maybe how

[night girder]

The best part is, he admitted a day later, he faked the story, to show what to do in case of it getting stuck. But that's still the way to do it. On a 100k car.

[languid gulch]

ha

[soft bloom]

cause i cant help but feel like every time i try it just spits out some halucinetic nonsence that seems legit until you try it, and other 50% is just nonsence

[night girder]

I can't remember, some scientific facts mostly.

[soft bloom]

i mean, simple "how to do X with pandas" it does do

but when i asked how to aproximate values in 3d matrix... it was a long road to get anything functional

[languid gulch]

so he's a double moron, for faking the post, getting caught, & not even getting a check from Tesla for doing an instructional video for them

[night girder]

Stupid stuff like this, it does well:

[visual tree]

Here, a car dealer would say you just voided your warranty if you did anything like the guy did in the video

"You pulled the string? You just voided the warranty since only we are authorized to do that!"

[edgy hazel]

bro is that PLA??? That plastic behaved just like one of my prints I broke

it looks super cheap

[languid gulch]

intentional. the whole car is famous for being bad & expensive at the same time

[night girder]

I know right 😄

@soft bloom

[languid gulch]

my sister works in luxury retail, & the amount of absolute garbage quality is everywhere. but it has "a look" that other rich people know is expensive, & that's the only point of its existence

[edgy hazel]

as long as you break both your legs in an accident and your steel side panels look untouched it's good lol

[night girder]

Yeah, the car industry, especially higher end models, are taking more and more shortcuts in quality. And they get away with it

[edgy hazel]

how do you make such garbage quality and still don't have a crumple zone

[languid gulch]

i mean, i guess i'm glad i'm not wealthy enough to want to buy an expensive car, because then i'd be really pissed about any minor thing wrong with it

[night girder]

"Oh, it's mercedes so it must be quality and good and it costs 60K? Must be brilliant."

I leased mercedes A class. Good car. But still expensive to me. 30-40k.

My dream car is a BMW M3, but that's just a dream 🙂

[night girder]

Actually has there been cybertrucks crashed already? I want to see images 😄

[languid gulch]

had my Bolt for a while now, & i really couldn't care less that it has about 120km shorter range than a tesla. its best quality is that it isn't a tesla, and that reflected in its price, which let me invest elsewhere

[night girder]

Looks pretty ok no?

[languid gulch]

still totaled, but this time with none of the occupant safety!

[night girder]

Image might be a fake. I am double checking it.

[languid gulch]

there are plenty of articles about wrecks already

[night girder]

www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/tesla-drivers-warned-to-be-on-lookout-for-misleading-ads-that-could-cost-thousands/ar-BB1nLADQ

business selling salvaged auto parts from car wrecks has been accused of falsely advertising the availability of Tesla Cybertruck components using artificial intelligence-generated crash images.

The car parts seller uploaded their Cybertruck listing on social media, and accounts left comments highlighting what appear to be indications that the post included inaccurate imagery. It is not clear whether the page was aware that the images were false at the time of posting.

Ah, AI put to good use I see. What a benefit for humanity 😂

[languid gulch]

we had one take out a street light because of the gas pedal issue

[night girder]

It's a sad time, that I have to fact check everything now on the internet.

[edgy hazel]

yes but not as many as expected. Most cybertrucks are either at a mechanic or recalled

[languid gulch]

lol

"can't wreck if it's impossible to drive!"

[night girder]

This one crashed into Berverly Hotels Sign.

source: ktla.com/news/local-news/elon-musk-responds-to-tesla-cybertruck-crash-into-beverly-hills-hotel-sign/

[languid gulch]

for $100k minimum & pre-reserved, i'd want a fucking driver included

[night girder]

Isn't a Ford Mustang cheaper?

[tough owl]

Yea

But comes with the cost of being a crowd crasher

[night girder]

58.460 euro Mustang GT for Belgium.

3.000 extra for automatic

I wonder if it comes with ISA system 😂

[night girder]

You know what I do like about the Ford Mustang? Barely has any options.

Just configured one. It's like: what color? What interior color? You want racing stripes? Spoiler? Apple carplay? And that's about it 😄

[languid gulch]

i know it's still selling well, but i feel like Mustang was the wrong name to attach to it

[tough owl]

Electric mustang 🤢

V8 mustang 😍

[tough owl]

They allow those mustangs over there?

[languid gulch]

technically yes, but also good fucking luck making turns in it over there

american muscle ain't made for euro roads

[night girder]

Yes 😄

[tough owl]

You should buy one

[tough owl]

https://tenor.com/view/dodge-charger-muscle-car-dodge-charger-daytona-drive-cars-gif-26191227

[night girder]

Don't have the money for it 😦

I shall take a loan. Sounds like a good life decision.

[soft bloom]

calcium rocks

[visual tree]

www.techtimes.com/articles/305731/20240616/nasa-s-voyager-1-restores-full-data-transmission-months-long.htm

Meanwhile, modern tech we build today can barely last 5 years lol

[cyan crescent]

Anyone able to help on why my laptop fans decide to go balls to the wall whenever i turn my laptop on? I have an Asus zephyrus g14 2022

[edgy hazel]

check task manager for startup apps or fan control in bios

but if you want to stop the full fan speed during post, gl with that

[cyan crescent]

Im in the desktop and they are still going full speed

[edgy hazel]

then check what's making your stuff hot

or clean your laptop lol

[cyan crescent]

Im only at 50c

[edgy hazel]

then set you fan speeds in BIOS

[cyan crescent]

I see nothing in bios on fanspeed

[edgy hazel]

then you'll need software. Although they went closed source now, FanControl was good when I used it

[cyan crescent]

I have their software

Fixed it.

[edgy hazel]

20€ banknotes must be bigger than I remember

[visual tree]

Bro, you could fit more banknotes in a single cash register bill compartment than in a shoe box according to Google 🤣

[night girder]

look at the math ....

3 dimensions / 2 dimenions? 🤨

[edgy hazel]

for the whole "AI is awesome at math" everyone keeps touting about they all seem rather incompetent

[night girder]

if you do 7.4cm * 13.5cm * 0.01 cm (just making shit up)

[plucky yoke]

By not giving a depth for the note, it’s assuming it’s a centimeter thick

[visual tree]

I've seen ChatGPT mistakes but Gemini is like a toddler compared to ChatGPT

[night girder]

Yeah, this is stupid

[edgy hazel]

I mean the google AI could've googled it

[night girder]

6,006/0.999 = 6,006.006. I took 0.01cm thickness.

Maybe give it a hint it forgot to calculate the depth of the note.

[storm otter]

i might die from the moster tbh

[visual tree]

I am actually trying to determine how many shoe boxes does it take to launder money in Croatia through buying real estate

[night girder]

Funny GPT has different sizes for a shoebox.

[visual tree]

Since almost 50% of real estate is bought in cash which indicates there is some serious money laundering going on in here

[night girder]

Sure, let's convert the measurements to centimeters for the calculations:

A standard shoebox is approximately 30.48 cm long, 15.24 cm wide, and 15.24 cm tall.
A 20 euro bill is about 14.5 cm long, 7.2 cm wide, and 0.0762 cm thick.

Assuming you can stack the bills neatly without folding them, you could fit approximately 1,260 bills in a shoebox.

[night girder]

Ask Gemini 😂

[visual tree]

Some american broke the record and managed to put 7400 dollar bills in a shoe box. Considering 20 euro note size is different, I guess you could at least fit 5000 in there.

So, a shoebox or two is enough to launder money through real estate depending on how much you are willing to spend

[night girder]

Huh weird, once I ask GPT to show me calculations it does weird stuff ...

It makes distinction between fit and fill 😄

[languid gulch]

how dare the euro be 1/8mm. i thought everything in europe was metric

[sharp oasis]

I'm still kinda angry about the deepcool sanction.

But haven't heard anything about Canada yet.

[languid gulch]

ngl kinda fuckin dumb to try to evade US sanctions

[sharp oasis]

Personally I like the competitivenes on their powersupplys.

But it's annoying on both deepcools and the states part

[night girder]

Isn't it a Chinese company?

[languid gulch]

based in china, with a US branch

it's a "if you want to sell to us, you won't be selling to them"

[night girder]

I read someone making the point: "Why does a Chinese company have to listen to the US?"

Ah, I don't think they have much of a choice.

[languid gulch]

they don't have to, but also that means the US doesn't have to let them in

[sharp oasis]

For a Chinese company damn they make good shit

[night girder]

Eh, don't think they care. Rather not piss of China, the country they are actually based in, than US.

[languid gulch]

guess whose market is waaaaaaaaaay bigger & it's stupid to piss off if you like money

[night girder]

I don't know, China has a strong economy too.

[languid gulch]

china's claimed like an 8% growth rate for decades as if that's accurate

[night girder]

Well, I think deepcool can still deliver in EU 😄

[sharp oasis]

And Canada

Haven't heard of anything from the Canadian govt yet

[languid gulch]

they're probably double checking trade agreements & treaties

[sharp oasis]

So I've pull got a few months before I need to buy the cooler and psu

[night girder]

Nah, don't want to get into politics. But it has other motivations.

[languid gulch]

oh i'm not touching the politics of it 🤣 just the paperwork side

[night girder]

US is on collision with China, economically for a while now. It's turning into an economic war.

[languid gulch]

i just hope thermalright doesn't get hit

[night girder]

What was the other thing again ... that app? TikTok?

[sharp oasis]

Tiktok still has not been even messes with in canada

[languid gulch]

tiktok collecting user data

[sharp oasis]

I mean everyone does now adays

[night girder]

Like Google, Facebook, X, ... 😄

[sharp oasis]

So it's pick your poison

[languid gulch]

yea but this is "china" aka the party

[sharp oasis]

So whay

What are the Chinese going to do with random videos