off-topic-tech

[night girder]

Goddamit firefox 😂

€ 47.500,-

[tough owl]

what year m3?

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Ooold.

[tough owl]

80s?

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They don't say but the model is from 1982 to 1994

It's a e30 320iS.

[jagged snow]

Those are still some of my favorite beamers... Too bad they're a pain to work on or find parts for

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I like the modern ones too. But so expensive.

[jagged snow]

Almost bought one a while back actually

[tough owl]

new ones look ugly

did yall see the new 911

with an electric turbo?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Nucleon

[tough owl]

why is it so long

with such a short wheelbase

[night girder]

I don't like the new 911 I see lately on the road.

[languid gulch]

all the mass is in the rear

[tough owl]

drag racer would have a field day with that today

[languid gulch]

assuming it doesn't melt down

[tough owl]

911 gt3 🤤

[languid gulch]

the indycars this year are hybrids

[night girder]

Ok, that's still dope 😄

[tough owl]

surely I can afford this

[night girder]

but this ... look at that butt ... 🤮

[languid gulch]

looks like that new hyundai

[night girder]

and I see em around plenty of times. Don't like it. Nop.

[tough owl]

https://tenor.com/view/porsche-911-gt3-rs-gif-14089839726392387861

🙂

🤫

[languid gulch]

ioniq 6

[tough owl]

🤢

[night girder]

It's all one big butt. I don't know how to phrase it.

But it's missing something.

[tough owl]

a wing

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No...

[languid gulch]

looks like you welded an old volkwagen rabbit to a 928

[tough owl]

https://tenor.com/view/spoiler-alert-spoiler-go-time-gif-13921804794138892823

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Or maybe?

It's too tall.

If I look at the older ones, I like it more.

especially this

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Ah well, cars have to big now... in all directions.

[tough owl]

is it just me or would auto makers sell a ton of cars if they brough back classic body styles with modern features

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like freakin elephants.

and they used to be tigers.

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There would be definitely be a market for that.

[languid gulch]

i thought they did a decent job resurrecting the camaro/mustang/challenger bodies

the early 2000s mustangs & camaros were hideous

[tough owl]

dont ask chevy what they did to the camaro from 1993-2002

or ford what they did to the mustang in 1994

[night girder]

My fav mustang:

even with the rust and damage ... it looks so cool 🤤

[languid gulch]

Bullitt

[tough owl]

I know someone with a 69 camaro

69 chevelle ss 🤤

[night girder]

Never saw the movies or is it a TV show?

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my dad used to have a 1971 Z28, grey with black stripes

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I just saw a picture once and fell in love kinda haha 😄

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJZ-BHBKyos

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Look at it!

[languid gulch]

better than any F&F movie

[tough owl]

theres no way this is a muscle car

[night girder]

a sleeper muscle car maybe?

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Don't get me started on the F&F movies. Especially the recent ones.

[tough owl]

more like a rebadge Mitsubishi

[night girder]

I watched a whole freaking movie, which was just the intro to the next movie. I was pissed.

[languid gulch]

lol nope. they were trying to compete with japanese compacts & dealing with emissions/fuel economy standards

[tough owl]

90s were a weird time for cars

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80s just sucked

[tough owl]

would beg to differ

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Not bad.

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they basically didn't touch the C10 from 1973-1987

[tough owl]

🤫

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😛

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Those tires are pretty dope.

small caps big tires.

[tough owl]

cant wait to rebuild this truck my grandparents have

[night girder]

With smileys?

[tough owl]

no

[languid gulch]

i rebuilt my grandpa's 1966 C20 and was able to basically transplant the front suspension from a 1987 without drilling

[tough owl]

theres no rust on theirs just dirt and grease on the underside

(besides a rusty roof and semi rusty hood)

[languid gulch]

looks like the Back to the Future pickup

[tough owl]

probably because it is 🙂

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old cars have insane ground clearance

[tough owl]

1985 xtra cab

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a whole 10 extra cm

[tough owl]

beats my civic

[languid gulch]

my new bolt is a full foot shorter than my old civic

[tough owl]

my civic has awulf ground clearance

it is not it on the local roads

[tough owl]

'

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lol saw that vid

[night girder]

It just made me think of the cybertruck 😂

[tough owl]

submartruck?

[languid gulch]

that's a video of someone who's never actually driven in water before

[tough owl]

I mean do you normally drive in water?

[languid gulch]

when off roading? sometimes

[night girder]

euh yes? Especially in wet countries.

[tough owl]

maybe ill build an offroading rig for semi cheap and just take out student loans to pay for college

(debt is the new american dream)

[night girder]

I still think the cybertruck is a joke. (No offense to any fans)

[languid gulch]

but it's also clear they don't know how to drive in water, because they picked a terrible spot to do it. and it was obviously voluntary, which driving in water is almost always a "need to"

dumbass showing off without knowing what it was actually capable of

[jagged snow]

Currently debt free but that'll change as soon as I try to buy a house 😭

[tough owl]

current home loan rates 🤑

[jagged snow]

Yeah

[night girder]

To be fair:

Tesla CEO Elon Musk insists the new Cybertruck will be able to act as a Cyberboat.

“We are going to offer a mod package that enables Cybertruck to traverse at least 100m of water as a boat,” he said on his social media platform X.

[tough owl]

what are they now, 9%?

[jagged snow]

My parents have a place that they got at 2% interest and I'm currently paying almost the same in rent as they are on their house

[tough owl]

on a good day?

[languid gulch]

i learned to drive off road in a old manual 2WD pickup, and i went places to fish out 4WD idiots who got stuck

[tough owl]

and let me guess its like 4x the size of the place youre renting

[night girder]

"According to Tesla, this “raises ride height and pressurises battery when driving through water”.

[jagged snow]

Yeah, plus it has land attatched

[night girder]

Seems to me Tesla made some bold statements and people are testing it out 😄

[jagged snow]

It is actually fully waterproof

"waterproof"

The wade mode is very impressive

And it has almost 12in of ride height adjustment

[tough owl]

I hope the housing market crashes so I can buy a house when I get a stable job

[jagged snow]

So they're not lying
The problem is that none of that magically turns it into a super cabable offroad rig

[languid gulch]

none of that makes up for an idiot behind the wheel

[night girder]

Seems people expect it though 😄 Probably have to do with the price?

[jagged snow]

It has to at some point I feel like
Houses have gone up 4x in price in the last decade

[jagged snow]

And the fact that tesla strongly implied it

[night girder]

I am not sure if it's an idiot. Or someone who wants to show what the car can and can't do. Like a review. I haven't seen the video.

[tough owl]

2008, 20 years later maybe 🙏

[night girder]

I just think it's an ugly vehicle.

[jagged snow]

2008 round 2

[jagged snow]

I appreciate how unique the design is, but it's not my styloe

[night girder]

I mean, even if it wants to be futuristic. There are way nicer cars that look futuristic.

[jagged snow]

I must say, seeing it in person it's much more impressive than what I thought before that

[tough owl]

imagine they bring that design language to the sedans

[jagged snow]

Surprisingly large and very "sharp" looking

[languid gulch]

idiot went off roading with friends, had to get rescued by a silverado

[tough owl]

Ive seen 2 of them and they are more impressive in person

[languid gulch]

they're hideous

and they take up an entire american parking space, corner to corner

[jagged snow]

I definitely wouldn't say that

[night girder]

The Audi R8 looked futuristic to me, but still grounded in the modern day. A perfect balance.

[jagged snow]

That they do

[night girder]

same with Mclaren.

[tough owl]

beats the bmw i8

[languid gulch]

it might be like the Aztec, where it's initially hideous (& remains so), but some aspects are transferred to other cars and look/function way better

[tough owl]

still waiting for dbrand to make skins for it dbrand.com/how-to-apply/tesla-cybertruck

[languid gulch]

i've been seeing them with wraps because of how bad they instantly rust, even here in famously rust-free AZ

[jagged snow]

The design makes them look smaller than a normal pickup but they're larger than new 1-ton models

[tough owl]

I cant wait to see the local ones rust this winter with the salt they put on the roads

[night girder]

This was the concept art for the i8 at one point.

But the glass doors were a safety issue

Oh, it seems they did make a POC:

I still prefer it over the Cyber Truck. (IF I had to choose).

[tough owl]

and by 1ton you mean like f2(3,4,5)50 super duty and like silverado 3500(4500 5500)

[languid gulch]

my old pickup had a full 2.5m bed in it, and no stupid step needed to climb into it

and was a 1 ton single axle

[jagged snow]

Pickup with a 1-ton axle, so f350/3500

[tough owl]

ah

[jagged snow]

F250 is 3/4 ton

[tough owl]

what would be considered a 1/2 ton?

[night girder]

I am driving a country man atm 😛

and when I was on vacation, I had a Renault. What a piece of crap that car was.

[jagged snow]

f150/1500

[jagged snow]

French "engineering"

[night girder]

The lights didn't go on in tunnels, but then during the daylight they did. The fog lights didn't work. The back mirror was so small you could barely seer anything.

and everything felt so freaking cheap. Half of the electronics went bezerk.

and when I had to brake I could hear "ppffffff" sound.

It only had "11.000" KM - I think the leasing company messed with it or something.

[tough owl]

i think the italians have them beat

[night girder]

Also, the media controls were obnoxious. It was another stick behind the steering wheel. I will never, ever buy a Renault.

[night girder]

It's the worst car I ever driven with.

Felt like the car was dying while we were driving it.

[languid gulch]

my mom's astro van rattled from day 1, but man it could haul anything

[tough owl]

it feels weird to think that the same company who makes Peugeot also makes hellcats

[languid gulch]

4x8 sheets of plywood laying down, queen sized mattresses

[tough owl]

mini vans are underrated haulers

[jagged snow]

The entire stellantis portfolio feels that way

[night girder]

I doubt it you would have like the Renault I had to drive.

[tough owl]

and back in the day to think they designed the m1 abrams

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the only things really wrong with it were the suspension & how outdated the drivetrain was

[night girder]

I couldn't say anything positive about it, and I really really did my best to find anything to say good.

[languid gulch]

oh yea some cars have 0 redeeming qualities

[tough owl]

kia soul

[languid gulch]

my first car was a corsica, the most blown-up movie/tv car of the 90s

[night girder]

It said the range was 880KM and we had to get fuel around 300-400 KM already

[night girder]

Like nothing was to be trusted.

You could barely hear the blinkers were on.

[languid gulch]

Chevy Corsica, for if the Cavalier was too much for you

[tough owl]

mustve been made by bmw drivers

[night girder]

No, those don't ship with blinkers.

Give me german cars. (american ones are too expensive to import and too fuel hungry).

[tough owl]

german engines are way too complex 🤣

[night girder]

Not my problem 😂 That's for the mechanic 😄

[tough owl]

all this for a v8

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[jagged snow]

Newer cars with solid state blinkers so they have to use a speaker and they're usually bad sounding

[languid gulch]

the only thing i ever had to touch on my civic were the things made out of rubber

[jagged snow]

And you can literally never get parts for a reasonable price

[languid gulch]

belt, hoses, tires, that's it

[tough owl]

probably had another 300k miles in it too

[languid gulch]

easily

[night girder]

I didn't even put my music on or anything. Because 50% of the time, apple carplay didn't work because the car overheated.

[jagged snow]

Once you do they require a ton of specialized tools and an insane amount of work for even simple jobs

[tough owl]

why US mechanics hate german car brands

youll probably see them driving old civics or corollas 🤣

[jagged snow]

Or fords 😉

[night girder]

I want to make a joke. I must resist.

[jagged snow]

Make the joke

[languid gulch]

german cars are a hard sell in the US because of the import costs

[night girder]

You gotta have the braincells yes

[tough owl]

my neighbor down the street used to go to germany to buy his beemers and import them himself than buy from a local bmw dealership, he has since switched to buying volvos

[languid gulch]

if they were made here, and were a lot cheaper to maintain, they'd be way more popular

[night girder]

mechanics would still hate them because "too complex"

meanwhile over here, they are used to it 🤷‍♂️

[languid gulch]

i mean, we are the "trench full? use a shotgun!" people

[tough owl]

[night girder]

And I do love you all for it 😄

[languid gulch]

we're the people everyone comes to when they need to idiot-proof something

[night girder]

sometimes, you gotta have to think simple 😉

[night girder]

trust me, we have our fair share of dummies here too.

[tough owl]

that was not audi when designing the 4.2l v8 engine

[night girder]

we just don't call em Karen's or whatever (but we do have em)

[night girder]

but it looks beautifull no?

[tough owl]

classy, simple clean

can make up to 2000hp 🙂

[night girder]

Cadillac:

[tough owl]

LS?

[night girder]

4.2L DOHC Twin-Turbo V8 LTA Engine

(meanwhile I though PC industry was going berserk with acronyms, but engines too it seems) 😂

[tough owl]

dual over head cam(shaft)

[languid gulch]

kinda close. we call people Karens who are overly entitled & want free shit for a tiny mistake & will yell at whoever it takes to get it

definitely idiots, but more assholes

[night girder]

Ah, was about to say. They come across as dumb and ignorant.

[languid gulch]

100%

[tough owl]

we should bring back rotary engines

[languid gulch]

but it's of the "i'm an idiot but i think i'm smarter than everyone else" look

[tough owl]

https://tenor.com/view/car-edit-9by16-gif-26971109

[languid gulch]

i wonder if a compressed air rotary would be better

[tough owl]

(I do not like negative camber)

[tough owl]

diesel rotary?

[languid gulch]

nah, just straight air going into it, no fuel

[night girder]

it looks weird 😅

[tough owl]

what is ground clearance and normal tire wear

[night girder]

The tires don't wear. The rims do 😂

[languid gulch]

at that point just build a monorail

[tough owl]

monorail car

[night girder]

Who came up with the idea?

[tough owl]

https://tenor.com/view/wallace-and-gromit-train-tracks-work-swift-fast-gif-3793283

[languid gulch]

if i had to bet, i'd say it was someone who broke their suspension doing the hydraulic bouncing shit

[night girder]

And though: "this looks cool" ?

[tough owl]

its nice in drift cars so maybe japan?

[tough owl]

lets ruin our chassis

[night girder]

why is my gif not loading 😦

[languid gulch]

tenor

[tough owl]

https://tenor.com/view/police-car-gif-9349472

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/drift-tokyo-tokyo-drift-car-car-drift-gif-659557936625595852

[languid gulch]

i always save gifs & upload directly

[tough owl]

toyotas modernize this car please

[languid gulch]

since urls tend to suck

[night girder]

So it seems 😄

[tough owl]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/943959240752631859/1205483052176900166/slownet.gif

[night girder]

For real? Toyota?

[tough owl]

ae86

https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/Toyota_AE86

[night girder]

It doesn't look bad. But is it reliable?

[tough owl]

outside of japan no

[night girder]

The rear view mirrors look weird tough.

[tough owl]

only made 87 bhp

[night girder]

Like little fins of a fish.

[night girder]

probably amazing for it's time?

[languid gulch]

there's dumber

[tough owl]

Probably

Which is worse. Awful mirrors or underpowered v8

[night girder]

Are those whiskers? 😂

[languid gulch]

more like a skin tag

[night girder]

Gotta be terrible for the eyes too 😂

[languid gulch]

mirror smaller than your phone screen, from 1.5m away

[night girder]

Terrible design

but hey, it has a V8!

[languid gulch]

*all pistons firing not guaranteed

[night girder]

V0-8? 😂

[tough owl]

Engine balance. Who wants it?

[languid gulch]

it's a W8 in a 3-3-2 config

[tough owl]

For what purpose

W8 when

[night girder]

Anyway I am off to bed 👋 Have a good day 😉

[languid gulch]

"balance"

night 😄

[tough owl]

Dream of your complex German cars

I’ll be driving my reliable Hondas

[charred pewter]

my vw aint complex

ive had it for 34 years and its never broken down on me where i couldnt drive it ... its had some issues sure, but i could get to my mechanic, or just fix it myself since most things are simple to fix

i couldnt attest to any NEWER german cars, i think they are nightmares under the hood LOL

[twin dew]

When simple front light bulb replacement means disassembling half of the front...

[charred pewter]

or just changing a spark plug means taking apart a mountain of plastic covers and panels

funny, i replaced my radiator a few months ago, and it was literally 2 screws and lift straight up ... was so easy i was kind of blown away

[twin dew]

There are some cars where changing a spark plug means removing something simple like the intake manifold.
Or some high-end cars where changing them means removing the engine from the car...

[charred pewter]

LOL!

[twin dew]

But those "remove engine" were Ferraris?

High-end Ferraris.

[charred pewter]

yeah my 4 spark plugs are all visible and reachable by hand to pull the wire, then put a socket on and spin them out. very nice... cause i have two sets of plugs, hot running and cool

if im doing a long trip, i put in the cool ... when im just doing in-town shitty small errands, i keep the hot ones int

the difference if you wanted to know why: pttlubricants.pttor.com/en/knowledge_bit_detail/6/150

[twin dew]

Mainly you check if you have the right temp plug by examining the old one...
As one the right one depends on the car model, engine model and somewhat of the ambient temperature, not the use so much.
Unless the engine never heats up to normal operating temperature.

AFAIK there is a range, just that for specific car there can be two options from that range.
But often now just one official rating.

Too hot and the plug starts to melt.
Too cold and crap starts to accumulate on the ceramics.

[charred pewter]

yeah, my car takes both... they are even oem plugs for that engine.... totally depends on usage

def have to put in the cool ones when autocrossing

but in winter, doing town errands ... the hot ones help keep the idle smoother

cause they dont cool off so quick, they keep the combustion going

my car can also be really picky about bad idle in cool weather ... my father (the vw guy) says i really should swap oil twice a year too for summer/winter ... but im like nawwww

10/40 and 20/30 ... or something, i forget the speal

[twin dew]

Or just with the cool ones the crap was starting to accumulate from the plugs being too cool, with the engine below normal operating temperature lot of the time, and no higher loads to burn the stuff off.

[charred pewter]

yup

a good long 85 on the highway for 2 hours ... burns all the crap out 😄 also sends my milieage up to 33mpg

it drops to 28mpg in city 😦

[twin dew]

But mostly that would probably be that you should use the hotter one normally and the cools just for the motorsports.

[charred pewter]

yup

but given how i tend to go a bat out of hell for a long trip ..... engine heat gets pretty darn high (although ive never blown a hose!)

but thats engine, not really the plugs themselves (although they are most certainly getting hot at those rpms)

i guess newer cars are just built with one in mind anyways so no real reason to get at them (and let the dealer mechanics deal with it)

someday* i'll get a newer car.... probably a subaru impreza 😄

i just cant see myself in anything big ... suvs, trucks, big 4 door sedans ...

🤷‍♂️ i dunno why ... i just like small cars

[twin dew]

Better optimizations so that the chamber temperature high point keeps closer same level no matter the RPM and power use etc.

As the plug self-cooling just needs to be in that specific range, to keep the plug below the materials starting to suffer and above the self-cleaning temperature.

That cooling rating just changes the geometry of the ~~center ~~ceramics to change how high heat conductance there is from the plug head to the body (and from there to the engine block).

[charred pewter]

👍

on a completely different note.... i used to have a oil loop that went over the water cooling system to 'cool the oil' ... LOL, worst invention ever. I took it off and the engine has run better since 😄 my father has ripped more of those off other vw's in his time too... "these things are trash, dunno what the germans were thinking"

thing is, the cooler exchanger doohickey ... sells on ebay for like $500 a pop 😄 and he has like a box of them sitting around!

[twin dew]

Oil cooler are pretty common in higher end cars.
Again as the oil needs to be kept below specific temperature.
But of course if you overcool the oil, you get problems too.

[charred pewter]

(or so he tells me)

yeah, it had the bad habit of cooling the oil too much, and heating the water too much ... so it like created two problems with one gadget

[twin dew]

Because there should have been oil cooler bypass controlled by a thermostat.
But in some cases when that is built into the cooler itself, it can still cool too much if the cooler is oversized.

And don't know if this specific one even had that.

[charred pewter]

fun fact about those thermostats in old vw engines ... they like to cease quietly and you dont really notice anything is wrong 😄 so it stays stuck open ....

the effect is usually noticed by bad starting conditions, or the water gets too cold while driving in winter (since it wont bypass the radiator if too cold)

changing those is not fun though .... requires the complete release of all coolant guh

[tribal kraken]

Applies to all normal thermostats, can fail in 2 ways. Stuck open or closed. Closed failure more noticeable 😂

I was surprised that KTM/Husqvarna put thermostats in dirt bikes. My all previous bikes never had them and used to tape radiators in winter to reach warm enough temps

[edgy hazel]

why are languages

[foggy path]

Imma just throw this in here, Google Search Algo was leaked so SEO manipulation is about to go crazy
https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/29/24167407/google-search-algorithm-documents-leak-confirmation

To those that don't know what that means, in addition to being wary of the AI Summary being outright wrong and dangerous, beware of the top search results, they could be scam sites soon 👍

[visual tree]

I just wasted 2 hours terminating a single CAT6 cable only to realise it failed LAN cable tester because the patch panel krone terminal got worn out from using punch-down tool on it too much....

LAN tester couldn't detect signal on wire number 8 (brown wire). At first I thought I did a bad crimping or the cable is damaged but when I moved to another patch panel port, everything worked fine

[night girder]

My macbook is about the lift off again. First I got a message it needed 30GB of free space to install a 2GB update. Now it's taking about an hour to install that update. 😂

Oh wait, it jumped from 30 minuts to "we are going to restart your computer".

[night girder]

I found this in a thread (some apple users ranting about the usual stuff). It did make me giggle:

Apparently, the apple logo ping-pongs between left and right screen 😄

[visual tree]

Wish I had a clean setup like that

[tough owl]

even unintentional still something cool to lookat while you wait for an update

[night girder]

Me too, me too 😦

Also, this thread is funny. It has a bit of drama. A lot of tears. Good read material while waiting on the update: forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-releases-macos-sonoma-14-5-with-apple-news-improvements.2426206/

Rumor has it that in 15, they will redesign the System Settings. But I don't think it's what we are hoping for though 😦

[charred pewter]

25% price hike on gpus coming? ... glad i got what i got and it has been perfectly great for everything i throw at it

[twin dew]

And some other electronics etc. produced in China.

25% tariffs, increasing to 50% in few years.

Also the steel tariffs etc. are coming back.

That were put in place during Trump.

[thick radish]

Well thank goodness GPUs aren't already absurdly expensive

[twin dew]

Trying to cause companies to move the production out of China.

[night girder]

docs.photoprism.app/getting-started/config-options/ this is doing my head in 😵‍💫

On one hand, I am happy that they give the user so much control. On the other hand ... it's a forest of configurations.

It has cool stuff though like this:

PHOTOPRISM_READONLY --read-only disable features that require write permission for the originals folder

But from a security standpoint, this looks pretty leggit. I run it in a docker container. Only mount the folders that contain images/videos. Then I get a openVPN tunnel only to the docker container.

I can also run docker with :ro (read-only) if I want to be double safe, maybe bit excesive 😄

[charred pewter]

which then the companies have to end up charging more anyways to cover the extra costs that they dont get away with in china lol so either way ... consumer is f'd

[twin dew]

Unfortunately the rise of Xi has made China very unreliable trade partner, and something needs to change or western countries are fucked in future.

[obtuse geyser]

Oh god. How many times did you rewire that panel jack and why?

[twin dew]

Single switch to thinner cable can do it.
Or trying to use stranded wire with keystone.

[obtuse geyser]

...stranded? anybody using stranded with hand-punched anything?

#onlySolidCopper

[winged valley]

Man why is apple's keyboard so ugly and bad

Mechanical all the way

[mental oriole]

Apple in general

[edgy hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

their compose example being prefilled with env variables is just perfect

[tough owl]

Why not try immich

[night girder]

I looked into that too. But doesn't have the features I want.

like read-only etc.

"The ro flag at the end only gives read-only access to the volumes. While Immich does not modify files, it's a good practice to mount read-only." Oh 😄 (immich.app/docs/features/libraries/)

[night girder]

You know, I give it a go.

[jagged snow]

Noticed something interesting, every 3rd party charger I can find for camera batteries is a sketchy non-balance charger

[twin dew]

Aren't most camera batteries single cell? Just 3.7V or so.

With 1S there is nothing to balance.

[jagged snow]

Nope, almost alway 2s

Mine are all either 7v or 7.2v (li-ion)

asablic you've been typing for a while 😄

[visual tree]

I don't think I punched down port 1 krone terminal more than 8 times (used it for other cables before through 5 years). Maybe that port was simply bad

At least I have a lot of other ports. Simply moved to port 2 and realized where the problem was when the lan tester flashed on all 8 wires

[tough owl]

Rossmanns boss gave it like a million in funding over the course of 3 years

[night girder]

it's building atm 😄

[tough owl]

Let me know how it goes

I need to reset up mine

[night girder]

It's up and running. Only problem I have. I added a test folder as an external library, with only one photo in it. And it's adding it twice atm. One picture has to correct date 2018, but the duplicate is set to today it seems.

Ooh, this is interesting. One is called SYNOFILE_THUMB_M_.jpg

So my current idea, it's a hidden file generating by synology itself. To use as a thumbnail for the folder.

It's also way lower quality. Luckily I believe we can add exclusions.

Yeah directory: "@eaDir/D9595..."

[wooden vessel]

I low key hate workstation porn. Computers run best on copper wrapped in insulation. Own it. Wireless is not sexy to me. It's just eventual e-waste.

[night girder]

@tough owl If you run into the same issue, adding **/@eadir/** fixed it for me 🙂

[tough owl]

What Os are you running it on?

[night girder]

synology

[charred pewter]

i run spaghetti Os

[tough owl]

So in docker?

[night girder]

uhu

[tough owl]

cuz last time I checked synology ran like kernel 5.3 or something old

[night girder]

Synology just use @eadir folders to cache thumbnails and stuff. If you add folder to immich, it scans that too. We cannot see the folder. unless terminal.

people running cronjobs to nuke the folders daily 😂

[tough owl]

good

don’t need cache thumbnails

[night girder]

it might also do other sutff 😛

synology isn't very transparant on it, it seems. But I can't find good information (yet)

[tough owl]

synology is very much you will use our software

and it will be good enough

[night girder]

well yeah ... they hold the hands of the users and protect them. Like a mom/dad. And users are the kids who don't know anything about the big scary computer world.

and it's also their market, to provide a server that is dummy proof 😄

[tough owl]

its not a lot of fun

[night girder]

www.truenas.com is the alternative then if you want control.

[solemn perch]

Helping out the devops guy

DevOps guy: everything is done in bash editor on Mac, issue is a lot of the syntax writing he's done is unique to Mac, so when I try to run the same using WSL on windows or something along the same I'm always getting syntax errors =(

[tough owl]

mac uses zsh and not bash, that might be where the root of issues stem from

[solemn perch]

Well they never mentioned that to me so fun times

it's just dififcult when peering into their projects to also use myself for various tasks

[charred pewter]

mwhahahahhaha

[languid gulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN8E8HT3uiU
luckiest man in the world & he knows it

[night girder]

eh, I prefer to use python - more universal and beginner friendly 😄

[charred pewter]

oof, im not a fan of python

im too used to php

ive tried converting some python scripts into php, and reading the python i get pretty lost in what its trying to do lol

[night girder]

but atleast it works both on mac, linux and windows 😄

and there are other languages, but I am not familiar with them. Besides Java and general Typescript.

[charred pewter]

bleah java

[night girder]

still dominant programming language

[mental oriole]

bleeh

I have something far bleeeh than java...

Design patterns

[night girder]

What's wrong with design patterns?

Builder design pattern can be useful. Singleton too.

[mental oriole]

🤢

Not in embedded 😄 And people get surprised it's slow

[night girder]

Yeah, I don't say it's ideal. Just use your 🧠 for context.

[mental oriole]

Obv.

[night girder]

I remember a few casees regarding security and encryption that the singleton pattern is really recommended.

since you only want one instance in memory of that.

[mental oriole]

Yup, you don't want to leak the password because of memory fragmentation.

[night girder]

Also if you use spring (java framework), a lot of design patterns are easy to implement 😄

@Configuration
public class SingletonBeanConfig {

@Bean
@Scope(value = ConfigurableBeanFactory.SCOPE_SINGLETON)
public SingletonBean singletonBean() {
    return new SingletonBean();
}

}

It hides the boiler code and does all the stuff "under the hood".

[mental oriole]

I have no clue what a Bean is...

[night girder]

Yeah, spring/java stuff 😄

but I am not going to lie, Java isn't the fastest language. Or most efficient one.

It has a lot of safety. It protects the dumb programmer. It protects the users. And it's a very mature language.

But it isn't modern or fast 😄 (I prefer python for fast scripting).

But python allows a lot more mistakes and can be a pain in the arse to find the error.

[mental oriole]

Tell me about it. Although with later versions the error reporting has become a lot better.

Like actually tells you what part of the line failed.

[night girder]

The fact you don't have to specifiy a return type for example.

Java is like: no you HAVE to tell me what it returns. Even void.

[mental oriole]

Yup, the classical
def foo():
pass

x = foo()
_> x > None

[night girder]

Or this one:

[mental oriole]

That was fixed

[night girder]

Yeah in python 3 I know

[mental oriole]

But yep that one was funny 😄

[night girder]

I used online python 2 compiler to show you 😄

You could sneak it into the code somewhere to confuse the hell out of your co-workers.

[mental oriole]

Like the questionmark that looks like semicolon.

[mental oriole]

Add a pre-merge-commit hook that replaces a random semicolon with a greek questionmark in your java codebase.

[night girder]

This one is funny though 😂

[mental oriole]

[night girder]

That's evil 😄

[mental oriole]

You're not wrong.

😈

[jagged snow]

I am imagining the chaos this could cause and actually feel like crying?

That is pure evil

[night girder]

So far, I am happy with immich.

Smart search is powered by the pgvecto.rs extension, utilizing machine learning models like CLIP to provide relevant search results.

Tested it out, and so far it works out pretty well 😄

You can just type in "cake" or "dog" and you get the relevant images.

It does use 1-2GB RAM on idle though 😒

[tough owl]

It’s indexing all your photos

it should die down

[night girder]

Ok, not perfect.

[night girder]

I only have a few photos. Not my whole library (yet).

And that image is from their demo. I searched for cat and I get all sorts of stuff. It even gives me a goat.

But this one is better "vegetable".

So I guess it's hit and miss.

I guess it gives you back all images and the top ones are the one "closest" to what you ask for?

[jagged snow]

That would make sense

[night girder]

Yeah, still a neat feature.

For a moment I just expected a different result, that it would only return cats or vegetables 🙂

Eh, it's not perfect though. This search was "airplane"

[jagged snow]

You did get three airplanes

[night girder]

Yes, but not really ordered. One is somewhat at the bottom 😉

and there is a vegetable at the 4th place 😄

but it's still a pretty new app. So don't get me wrong. I am just having fun testing it out.

[jagged snow]

And a hitrate of three out of 20 is not that good

[night girder]

Recently, a company in Austin, Texas, called FUTO contacted the team. FUTO strives to develop quality and sustainable open software. They build software alternatives that focus on giving control to users. From their mission statement:

“Computers should belong to you, the people. We develop and fund technology to give them back.”

FUTO loved Immich and wanted to see if we’d consider working with them to take the project to the next level. In short, FUTO offered to:

Pay the core team to work on Immich full-time
Let us keep full autonomy about the project’s direction and leadership
Continue to license Immich under AGPL
Keep Immich’s development direction with no paywalled features
Keep Immich “built for the people” (no ads, data mining/selling, or alternative motives)
Provide us with financial, technical, legal, and administrative support

[night girder]

I can imagine the birds being tricky for the ML. (2 birds)

it's possible to use different ML models though: huggingface.co/immich-app

currently it's using openai/clip-vit-base-patch32.

[jagged snow]

Rossman works for Futo iirc

[tough owl]

Louis’ boss🙂

Yup and he was the one who suggest futo give them money

[jagged snow]

Ah nice

[night girder]

Ah cool 😄

Yeah, I will finish setting it up tomorrow probably. Tested it out, didn't notice anything weird so I think I can add my actually photo libraries.

Also the :ro command works like a charm.

[languid gulch]

pi server

[wanton orchid]

btw I'm waiting for pi 5 poe+
and pcie bridge handling patches

I'm also waiting for money and space
but that'll probably never come

[dusk plaza]

Hello, i got a question about ram
i have an Asrock x670e Taichi with Corsair 32gb dual kit inside
i have seen the memory get full or near full during long sessions and want to add another kit
however the qvl list of the motherboard only has dual channel kits on it
anyone knows if the motherboard can support quad channel?

[jagged snow]

That platform is dual channel

[dusk plaza]

meaning i can't have 4x16gb?

[jagged snow]

You can, it would still just run in dual-channel mode

[wanton orchid]

this is a dual channel motherboard / platform

thank you discord for completely deleting my messages instead of ask me if I want to resend them as they failed to send

[dusk plaza]

yeah, tried to link the qvl, had to retype the message instead

[wanton orchid]

it's not discord links are not allowed

I was really talking about discord deleting my messages completely after they fail sending

Anyway all you can do is add ram compatible with your current kit
and do 2x dual
or buy expensive quad kit for no real reason and use it as 2x dual

[pure karma]

basically yes you can but it wont run at its full speed or at least not be stable at its full speed so you will get more capacity but sacrifice stability

[stray badger]

Quadchannel is for threadripper or other HEDT platform

[steel peak]

anyone know if cpu-z just shows XMP even on amd platforms under timing table

[steel peak]

ive got a gigabyte b650 x ax with 7800x3d flashed to latest BIOS, 2x16 GB cmk32gx5m2b5600c36 which is on gigabyte QVL. BIOS is on stock settings. When power on from powered off state it will boot to Windows. Whenever I restart from windows - the system will hang and i see the DRAM led on. What would be causing the issue?

[winged valley]

Try restarting from linux

If the behavior isn't replicated, reinstall windows

If it is replicated, run memtest86

@steel peak

[steel peak]

oh already running memtest86 right now, i see the clock is reporting 4193 MHz but i have xmp/expo enabled for 5600
ram config shows ddr5 5600MT/s

[winged valley]

4193Mhz is baseline for ddr5 iirc

EFI applications (that is to say, OS level) can choose to ignore XMP and run at baseline

That being said, memtest shouldn't be doing that

You're using corsair vengeance ram too so I doubt its a misconfigured profile

Are you absolutely sure XMP is enabled? You might need to put on profile 2 if it is

Yeah 4193 is baseline ddr5

[steel peak]

yep should be enabled

the reboot issue happens on both stock and xmp

[winged valley]

well wait for memtest

then try linux

[twin dew]

Certain two memory settings cannot be one enabled, one disabled.
Moment.

If Memory Context Restore is Enabled, then Power Down Enable must also be Enabled.

Under Tweaker, Advanced Memory Settings according to the BIOS manual for 1.x rev boards.

Also check if the reboot is just slow and it is doing full memory retraining, which can take couple of minutes.

As the DRAM light will be on during that.

[steel peak]

thats what i was thinking but i left it going for like 20 minutes once and still had not boot by then

[twin dew]

5 minutes should be the absolute max it can ever take with the very on edge RAM with all the extra training options enabled.
1 minute should be normal.

But check those two settings, if both were the same, try with Memory Context Restore Disabled.

That will disable the reusing of memory training, so every boot will do full training, which should take that 1 minute or less.

[languid gulch]

i just realized that the stupid AI voices that annoy all of us would probably be a lot more tolerable if they switched over to the star trek computer's voice

[twin dew]

Probably not actual text-to-speech voice, but edited human actor.

[languid gulch]

i know she basically read the dictionary before she died so that they could keep using her voice

[twin dew]

Which sounds even worse when played back word-by-word.

As sentences.

The cadence and some parts of prononciation change suprising amounts depending on the preceding and following words.

[languid gulch]

right but i wonder if it could be used with some of the speech AI software to give it a more accurate sound to how majel spoke

[night girder]

Somebody just posted a .env file with a plaintext password in it on a discord server 😄

[dire igloo]

Had to have the cables out of my way

[edgy hazel]

Didn't know you were doing pentesting

[dire igloo]

I didn't know either

[tough owl]

Is there a way to not allow YouTube to play hdr video on hdr capable device

I want hdr in other places but not YouTube

[mental oriole]

No idea, chrome feature flag maybe, but that applies to the entire chrome instance.

[tough owl]

chrome 🤢

[mental oriole]

Idk then

Without feature flag

And yt has no settings (:

[tough owl]

Need to see if ff has a feature flag

[wanton orchid]

"But UsE eNv FoR sAfEtY" moment

[wooden vessel]

well ya, so that means don't post your secrets file

[charred pewter]

../../../../../../etc/passwd

its hilarious when i see weblogs with that URI

like, seriously? what webserver has that kind of hole in its security still (and is still UP for that matter lol)

[edgy hazel]

Getting the devil out of my network

[twin dew]

GPU price rise averted for a year:
www.pcmag.com/news/us-wont-impose-tariffs-on-graphics-cards-from-china-for-another-year

Also some other items like motherboards.

As in that was the original reinstitution and the word going around was based on misreading.

[narrow folio]

nice garbage find😊

8bit microcontroller, 2kB EPROM, 128 Bye RAM

[twin dew]

Ah, someone emptied the program ROMs on those.

[narrow folio]

probably high security code 😉

wouldn't matter, I don't intend to use them for anything other than to show the cool stuff from the way back then to those who are interested

[edgy hazel]

I keep forgetting that this is something you can do..

[jagged snow]

Saving that

[narrow folio]

tried this, looks nice, but horrible for maintenance

[jagged snow]

I'm sure

The little rubber ones are better in that respect, but pricey

[visual tree]

Meanwhile, I am preparing for fiber in advance

Don't know what's harder, chiseling concrete wall in order to make a hole for the sockets or running cables through conduits 😅

[dire igloo]

Also kinda wasteful

[dire igloo]

I'll stick to pens

[visual tree]

Ok, I regret opening an account on FS.com...

Their account managers are really aggressive and stalk you on linkedin

Didn't even buy anything yet but the account manager already sent me a "system hint" of what I was browsing which is 90% correct. That's a really creepy way of doing sales

[midnight osprey]

Hey guys. I’m setting up a solar powered cam in my back yard. Needs 2.4gz router. Are there any relatively cheap ones that you guys can recommend?

Amazon uk would be ideal.

I could also get back into smart lighting as they often need the 2.4gz

Currently have a few pro eero 6s from my previous isp. About to change and I am not sure what they’re sending me in about a weeks time. New isp is youFibre

Just done a quick search and it looks like they use the same routers.

[edgy hazel]

so first, gz is not a unit of measurement

[midnight osprey]

Frequency I assume.

I think some routers give out both.

[twin dew]

Almost all can do both.

[midnight osprey]

Is there a downside to turning the eero 6 down?

[twin dew]

2.4GHz is the older frequency range.
And there were just some weird APs in early N that could only do one or the other.

[edgy hazel]

hertz is shortened to Hz and since you want it in giga you use GHz

[twin dew]

And even that Eero 6 is 2.4GHz + 5GHz?

[midnight osprey]

How come all these smart devices only work on 2.4?

[midnight osprey]

Could be.

[twin dew]

Because they are probably only doing 2.4GHz N-standard to be cheaper.

[edgy hazel]

because it's higher range and smart stuff doesn't need high speeds

[midnight osprey]

Cool

[twin dew]

(N as in Wifi 4).
And 2.4GHz has better range and penetration than 5GHz.

[midnight osprey]

Nice!

Cos it’s gonna have a mixture of a wall and ceiling to get through.

[edgy hazel]

also why a whole router and not just a normal AP?

[midnight osprey]

Tricky to test at the moment. No home internet until the 7th. Using mobile data

Just trying to plan ahead.

[twin dew]

But the "Dual-Band" in Wifi Router or AP marketing means it does both 2.4GHz and 5GHz.

[midnight osprey]

Ooooh

Looks like 5ghz can be temporarily disabled to setting up smart devices.

What is AP?

[twin dew]

Access Point, the Wifi thing.

[midnight osprey]

Ah, lol

[twin dew]

Wifi routers just have inbuilt AP.

And just Wifi AP doesn't have a router part.

[edgy hazel]

AP

[twin dew]

Because you only need single NAT-router between the internet and the internal network, and then you can need multiple APs.

[midnight osprey]

Nice. Thanks.

I’m gonna get back into these smart devices now!

I gave up on the past due to a fried mind.

Thanks for your help guys.

[twin dew]

So there are:
2.4GHz WLAN band, that is used in the b, g, n (4) and ax (6), be (7) standards.
5GHz WLAN band, that is used in a, n (4), ac (5), ax (6) and be (7) standards.
6GHz WLAN band, used in ax (6E) and be (7) standards.
60GHz WLAN band (WiGig), used in ad, aj and ay standards.

[midnight osprey]

Wow

Never seen 6, never mind 60

[edgy hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[midnight osprey]

Haha

[twin dew]

So the 2.4GHz is the classic, then the N added optional 5GHz.
And there were N-routers that could only do 2.4GHz, could do both but only one at a time, or could do both at same time.
Anything after has been "does both at same time" for 2.4GHz and 5GHZ.
And then that WiFi 6E adds that 6GHz band.

And the WiGig stuff is completely separate and very rare.

[midnight osprey]

I heard controversy years ago about WiFi being bad for us

Was there any truth to that?

[twin dew]

The same people say any RF is bad basically.

[midnight osprey]

Some were going nuts complaining that 5 was much worse than 2.4

Like really nuts.

[twin dew]

Not being able to differentiate between ionizing radiation and non-ionizing radiation, and various power levels.

[edgy hazel]

That's basically it.

[twin dew]

Yes, Wifi bands are ones that in theory exite the water molecules, so they could heat up tissue.
Which is why most microwave ovens work on 2.4GHz band.
But Wifi uses max 0.5W transmit power before antenna losses.

[midnight osprey]

What about antennas in the public?

I ain’t fighting their cause btw. Your words are rather encouraging.

❤️

[twin dew]

Any Wifi device is limited to that 0.5W at transmitter power stage output limit.

Or it is illegal to use.

No matter who owns or uses it.

[midnight osprey]

Including mobile phone towers?

[twin dew]

Completely different thing?

[midnight osprey]

Those asshats stirring shit

Likely. I don’t always find the right words.

[twin dew]

But those also have power limits so that the field strength is low enough at any point person can get to normally.

[midnight osprey]

Cool

I wish there was a law against deceit.

Idiots with loud voices everywhere these days.

[twin dew]

Climbing active long-range tower and going before the active directional antenna is bad idea.
Being behind it or at foot of the tower is no issue.

[midnight osprey]

Cool!

[twin dew]

Also the mobile stuff works on completely different frequencies, so it doesn't exite human tissue in same way.

[midnight osprey]

Sweet

[twin dew]

But basically there have been double-blind trials with those idiots and none of them have been able to differentiate between RF on and off.

[midnight osprey]

They once freaked me out about it.

[twin dew]

With high power levels.

[midnight osprey]

It was a rather compelling story at the time.

[twin dew]

People who claim to have RF oversensitivity.

[midnight osprey]

They almost turned me into a fellow idiot!

I can be rather naive. Too trusting.

https://tenor.com/view/tinfoil-hat-gif-19189292

🤣

[twin dew]

Of course the specific people don't trust those double-blind tests either 🤣

[midnight osprey]

The other story that fascinated me was hollow earth theory.

[twin dew]

Subsonics from wind turbines causing possible health issues is different case.
No real data AFAIK in either direction at this time.

[midnight osprey]

As a child journey to the centre of the earth intrigued me.

[twin dew]

But even that would be very localized issue.

[midnight osprey]

Yeah

These groups always use emotions to mess with people.

Like the birds flying into them. Cats do far more damage!

[twin dew]

So living at the foot might be issue, living 1km away shouldn't be issue ever.

[midnight osprey]

I may live about 500m from one. No clue which way it points.

[twin dew]

That was for wind turbines, not RF towers.

[midnight osprey]

Ah, lol

Silly me.

[twin dew]

For comparison, AM radio towers often transmit at 1500W.

Again just the power amplifier output.

[midnight osprey]

Yeah

[twin dew]

4G handsets are 0.2W max, 3G was 1W or 2W max depending on frequency.
the base stations are about 50W for long range ones and for the "low down" microcell stuff much less.

[midnight osprey]

Nothing to worry about then.

If somebody is exposed over a long term I hear there are remedies.

[twin dew]

And with true omnidirectional antenna, if the power at point 1mm from the antenna is 50W, then the power at point 1m from the antenna is 0.0005W, spread over the shell of a sphere.

Square-Cube law is a bitch...

[midnight osprey]

Haha

I was trying to get my head around that recently.

My new isp claims that I could access WiFi in the garden as long as I am within 1500 square feet

And that’s just area and not volume.

[twin dew]

Better would be to market in range, but area gives higher number.

Basically the AP transmits at that 0.5W, and there is some specific minimal power level that the transmission can be received.
Same in the other direction.

And that sets the maximum free range distance it can work.
And then things in between causing extra losses drop that.

[midnight osprey]

Yup

[twin dew]

1500 square feet would just be 22 feet radius circle.
And I would say that 22 feet range is pretty crappy if true.
But the real one is probably higher and there are extra losses included.

Normal in open air would be 150' / 45m for 2.4GHz and 50' / 15m for 5GHz with other stuff going on, and IIRC 2.4GHz can to 100m at countryside with normal gear, and to multiple km with just tin foil reflector to make the antennas directional.

And more with real directional antennas.

[midnight osprey]

Feck

I’m considering letting my neighbour who lives 4 doors away leech my internet. Might need a better router.

A lot more range on the 2.4 then

[twin dew]

And it get much less losses from walls etc.

[midnight osprey]

Cool

[twin dew]

But the max speed drops with range.

[midnight osprey]

How come higher frequencies have less penetration?

Well it starts at 1000/900 so even a large loss should still be decent speeds.

[twin dew]

Because RF.

[midnight osprey]

Maybe he can still watch 4k Netflix.

[twin dew]

But same as with sound.
Higher the frequency, easier it is to absorb if wanted to:

And worse penetration.

But at same time, higher the frequency, more bandwidth there is for use per decade of frequency.

And smaller antennas are needed.

At one extreme end:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines#Extremely_low_frequency

With transmitting antennas measured in tens of kilometers, and theoretical "perfect" antenna needing 1800km or so 😅

[edgy hazel]

why don't they just use SMS?

[twin dew]

Why do you think USA dismantled that ELF (/SLF by official ITU ranges) system?

The initially proposed system would have had a giant antenna consisting of 6,000 miles (9,700 km) of buried cables in a rectangular grid covering 22,500 square miles (58,000 km2), two-fifths of the state of Wisconsin,[1] powered by 100 underground power plants in concrete bunkers.

But SLF (30-300Hz) has wavelength of 10k-1k kilometers.
And full- half-wave dipole antenna "must" be 1/2 of the wavelength.

So two 250km legs for 300Hz for total of 500km.

[wanton orchid]

my news for crystaldiskmark
from my latest linux kernel iscsi stability/performance testing

it does mesure independently IOPS and latency which is nice

👍

iscsi :
windows init <-> Windows net <-> HV-Vlan <-> core-network <-> Linux-Vbridge <-> Vlan <-> Linux net <-> Vm-if <-> vm net <-> vm target <-> lvm Lv <-> v-scsi <-> host-scsi <-> Lvm thin v <-> cached hdd array

(this is a bit simplified, although not too simplified of-course)

(with mismatched network / vm interface mtu)

[charred pewter]

heh saw this in an article regarding what AI is: a hyper-intelligent eight-year-old that desperately wants to please you. It knows everything about everything, but it will give you a wrong answer rather than say, 'I don't know.'

soooooo basically what happened was:
Guy went to facebook, opened its help widget (which is AI driven) ... asked it for a support number to try to speak with a human.
AI didnt know the number (because its impossible to talk to anyone at facebook for help). It went out and found a phone number for 'meta support' and gave it to the guy as an answer.
Phone number was for a scammer.
🤦

If you wanted to read the full article: www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/facebook-customer-support-scam-1.7219581

[nimble cargo]

The eight year old also has no morals.

AI is like my aunt repeats everything it reads online as the gospel truth, even if it's saying the sky is orange with purple polka dots.

[dire igloo]

It'll also rather make something up than admit it doesn't know.

And if you ask for specifics, it'll just guess

[charred pewter]

crazy world

actually from the article, it seems the guys wife had googled for a meta support number ... google gave one (the scam number), then the guy asked meta AI help 'is this a legit phone number', and the ai widget was like "Yup!"

either way... ai was stupid as shit and led to a scammed person

[wanton orchid]

that's the whole "feature" of an AI
people should start to wonder why it is the thing marketed about

[modest isle]

it increasingly just feels like a bunch of dumb rich people bought into it big time and now the rest of us have to suffer because of that...

[twin dew]

The Hype Train has no brakes.

[gilded helm]

I bet you the Blackwell release will talk about AI way too much. But it will be exactly like ray tracing and it's way too early to care.

[night girder]

Remember NFTS

[twin dew]

Have I missed some fad, or do you mean NFTs? 🧐

[edgy hazel]

New File Technology System

Great ad

[charred pewter]

wut

[twin dew]

Depends if you are afraid that someone physically steals the NAS and accesses the files?

My laptop has BitLocker on, with BIOS boot password.
My desktops have no encryption.

TPM chip for BitLocker.
Or on USB key.
And in theory with just password.

And then separate recovery key that is supposed to be printed.

And which with the automatic encryption for Home Windows is stored in the MS account used on the Windows installation.

If you aren't logged onto the computer with MS Account, the encryption doesn't/will not happen.

So Local account computers are completely safe from it.

And with MS Account computers, as long as you can login to the account from some other device, you can get the recovery key.

I have that set that Windows is still local account, and the MS is just for apps.

Or just set the "Don't encrypt" registry entry?

learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experiences/oem-bitlocker#disable-bitlocker-automatic-device-encryption

Alternately, you can update the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\BitLocker registry key:
Value: PreventDeviceEncryption equal to True (1).

For the current one, no idea about the coming one.

BitLocker automatic device encryption starts during Out-of-box (OOBE) experience. However, protection is enabled (armed) only after users sign in with a Microsoft Account or an Azure Active Directory account. Until that, protection is suspended and data is not protected. BitLocker automatic device encryption is not enabled with local accounts, in which case BitLocker can be manually enabled using the BitLocker Control Panel.

Yeah, same thing.
They are just lowering the triggering requirements.

Starting from Windows 11 version 24H2, Microsoft has reduced hardware requirements for Automatic Device Encryption (Auto-DE) in Windows:
Auto-DE doesn't depend on Hardware Security Test Interface (HSTI) / Modern Standby anymore.
Auto-DE will be enabled even if untrusted Direct Memory Access (DMA) buses / interfaces are detected

Before it only happened on OEM machines that filled specific requirements.
And now it will happen on every machine with TPM and Secure Boot.

That is what that Learn URL is talking about.
Instructions for OEMs how to configure their machines UEFI and the OEM Windows so it triggers since Win10.

And now the requirements are being loosened so it will trigger in all machines in Win11 24H2.

But again, it is made ready, and only activated if MS Account is used during the OOBE.

[thick radish]

They boiled the frog a little too fast

[gilded helm]

When product design becomes subordinate to marketing, you get modern Windows.

[tough owl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1yubL0h46U

when we getting the 9999x(3d)

5900xt is 16 cores wtf

[stray badger]

literally just built my pc with a 7950x3d lmao

[wanton orchid]

as long as its full disk encryption and you have the recovery key you should be fine

you can read it with fuse

I simply do hard locked and purged rom install with further cleanup and settings and fully disable windows update
I didn't have issues with windows 11 so far in that setup
but as I do not update and have cleaning strategy, I have to process major update building so I can't say for latest version
my version is from July 2023

[languid gulch]

can't wait for AMD to announce a 5950XTX3D next year

[tough owl]

am4 keeping on

[languid gulch]

released sept 2016

any other platform lasted that long?

[tough owl]

I don’t even thing x79 or x99 or x299 lasted that long

though realistically am4 x570 lasted the longest

[languid gulch]

i mean, if you didn't mind losing 1st gen ryzen support, you could flash the X370 bios to get 5000 series support

and it's clearly new stuff, not rebadged or binned old stuff

16 cores on the 5900XT

[tough owl]

Does the 5600x3d work on x370?

[languid gulch]

from what i remember AMD left it up to mobo makers to do bios support flashes

so you'd have to check each model

[tough owl]

I wonder if amd intentionally left the bios chip large in x650 and and whatnot for long term support

[languid gulch]

god i hope so

i think amd may have learned

[tough owl]

where’s Baldur when you need answers

I don’t wanna be a billionaire

too many people would want my money and it’d be a headache to handle

[languid gulch]

i do but it sucks

mine sucks because it has to penetrate the HVAC unit before getting to my pc

[tough owl]

My space is small enough where I can run 5ghz everywhere

(I only have 25mbps connection)

[twin dew]

Getting back to speed after waking up.

[twin dew]

IIRC they did specify pretty large minimum BIOS chip size for AM5.

Only 32MB it seems.

Original AM4:s only had 16MB chips IIRC.

But AMD did mandate the CPU-less BIOS update support, so outside of some very low end first launch AM5 boards, that should now be standard.

Included almost everything into the chipset, and made strong recommendation to include it originally.
But when some boards didn't come with it, they AFAIK then mandated it going forward.

Yes.
Checked the BIOS sizes for the cheapest A620 board from each of the four manufacturers.
All had 32MB BIOS chips.

[tough owl]

So theoretically they could last longer than am4

[twin dew]

With the CPU-less BIOS update, it wouldn't even matter if you needed two different BIOS files depending on CPU.
As that can just be changed on the fly when changing CPU.

I would expect the socket only change either once DDR6 comes, or more RAM channels are needed to compete with Intel.

AMD staid on AM4 until DDR5 support was needed.
Even when they were limited by the maximum socket power of AM4.

But skipping 100 and 200 to start at 300 to go one over the coming Intel Ultra 200 series of laptop CPUs.
And skipping 700-series chipsets to match Intel desktop chipsets for coming Arrow Lake

[gilded helm]

I hate to say it but I believe that 300 marketing works. I can definitely remember people being impressed to see 2025 versions of software (for example) and thinking that made it better than a competitor who was only on the 2024 version still!

[languid gulch]

it's like they're trying to make the product seem like it's been out long enough to be a 3rd generation, & therefore more refined. or something

[twin dew]

Nah, they skipped 700 for chipsets to go from 600 to 800 on AM5, to match coming Intel desktop chipsets.
And started new Ryzen AI branding from 300, when the next gen Intel laptop CPUs will be Ultra 200 series.

And had originally had PR out that they would be Ryzen AI 100 series, and suddenly changed to 300 instead.

[languid gulch]

still smells like GN's "bigger number better" bullshit

[twin dew]

That is the whole point?
To match or have higher number than Intel?

[languid gulch]

oh i just mean in the naming scheme

that's always marketing BS

[pure karma]

because calling a iphone... iphone ultra+ + + Mega giga+ would be too big of a "innovation"

[mental oriole]

Just call it iphone™️ ultra delux

[sharp oasis]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/X7gpPF
Wanted to post this here. I might be getting this maybe some changes on case choice. But I like heb h9 elite tbh. It's multi role intended so gaming and blender/ video editing

[sand saddle]

You really need the extra 1TB? Maybe try 4 for starters and if you run out just buy another 2/4tb.

[sharp oasis]

I do fill 3tb pretty fast and that extra 1tb would usually be my boot drive

I cooould as my current build is going to my dad leave him with a Sata ssd and savage my current nvme

[sand saddle]

How heavy blender?

[sharp oasis]

Light to medium. I'm working on getting zluda set up as it works on blender

I also use a DaVinci resolve for video editing

[sand saddle]

Same specs: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Y9dgMV
Your mobo seller seems sus
For ram I'd assume you'd want to play around with it anyways so you can just opt for cheaper hynix. If no xmp, all manual OC: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0BPHRVYX9?th=1
High end 4TB SSD
Way cheaper case with a similar idea, imo looks better and is probably engineered better. AIO on the side, intake fans on bottom.
Contact frame is necessary.
Reverse fans for nicer aesthetics.
LS720 also works, imo not worth the extra.

[sharp oasis]

id probably play with it a bit

but Xmp would be easyer for me

[sand saddle]

6000c38 is fine xmp

Only 1.25V so it runs nice and cool

[sharp oasis]

case Idk I do wanna top mount my rad but idh how well the H9 elite will handle that

[sand saddle]

H9 elite is just stupid

[sharp oasis]

fair

why do i like the H9 elite tho wtf

airflow is prolly meh if not bad

due to consticted top

[dire igloo]

Meh is an overstatement

Air doesn't go through glass

So top exhaust is no more

[sharp oasis]

ye its got a vent to the side

but thats consctricting

[dire igloo]

Air doesn't like to go around corners

[sharp oasis]

that

I know that

air likes straight lines or gradual curves

[dire igloo]

Why H9 Elite over Flow tho?

[sharp oasis]

Idk glass top for some reason. I could get the flow and then its fine

i like the look of the elite but know in my mind the airflow is shit

[dire igloo]

O11 Vision

[sharp oasis]

thats what GS suggested

[wary olive]

Can anyone help me with downloading a file? Windows security says it aint safe but it def is and it wont work

[night girder]

right click on the file, properties and check unblock.

[wanton orchid]

oh yes, the common "comming from another computer disk files" danger

[languid gulch]

it's like it doesn't know the internet's been a thing for the past 35 years

[tough owl]

https://youtu.be/MGD41i5QCyk

[gilded helm]

Intel talks serious. Too early to say anything more than talk.

[nimble cargo]

I have the H9 Flow. (Moved to it when I was having random shutdowns and heat issues). The glass doors attract dust on it, so it needs regular cleaning, but no big deal there.

[sharp oasis]

I'm use to cleaning case frequently I seem to have an affinity to the h9 elite but I know the top airflow is hampered by the glass

Might get the flow.

I like nzxt due to how easy cable managemt on the back is.

I just love the vent for some reason

[nimble cargo]

Yeah same. The panels pop off with a bit of effort, but super easy to clean.

Fitting in SSDs was a pain, and getting the cables right was grrrr.

Nzxt (forget which) was my first choice, but bugger if I could find someone in Aus who carried the one I wanted.

[sharp oasis]

I've found it's cable managing rather easy

Built an H6 build for a friend

And ohhhv mannn I was in shock from how good I could manage the cables

Beats my cooler master case back and forth

Like I could make it perfect

Front and back

I'm hoping the h9 series will be somewhat Inline with the H6

For just damn that's easy to manage cables

[nimble cargo]

Lol, yeah. I went up from a 15 year old case (Artec something?) the H9 was a dream in comparison.

Mostly it was the SSD cables, they weren't long enough.

[sharp oasis]

I might ditch getting a new platform for now

And get a 5950x.

And 7900XT

Bur new case and monitors

[languid gulch]

hold off and grab a 5900XT

[tough owl]

Why a 5900 class product is 16 cores I’ll never know

[twin dew]

Because it is downgraded 5950X and not upgraded 5900X?

With very stupid name.

Because there is no suitable classic name for such downgrade.

Well, could probably been 5950 without X?
Or did that exist yet?

[languid gulch]

i really should have placed some bets on wood pc cases making comeback when i said it

[nimble cargo]

I've seen that, like WTH??

It definitely wasn't on my 2024 bingo card.

[languid gulch]

i love it

at least the ones i've seen so far

i'm sure there'll be garbage soon

although idk if i'd want actual wood on my case considering how temperamental it can be

i can see it warping to the point of splitting if it was built in taiwan & shipped to me in a frickin desert

[night girder]

If they are actual wood, when you replace it, you can throw it into the fireplace.

[pure karma]

it is but for the love of god get a motherboard whit conectors that go to the side instead of up

[edgy hazel]

the way lumber has become expensive it's no wonder it's being used as a status symbol

[edgy hazel]

got a few of those in the garage. Yeah we rich 😎

[wanton orchid]

this is so freaking stupid

[twin dew]

That whole store is pretty complete scam.

Selling "Finnish" "designer" crap to americans.

None of which is for sale in Finland 🤣

[charred pewter]

sad thing is ... i know some people who fill their homes with that kind of crap

an entire 'yuppie crowd' of people buy that stuff

"but its sanded and has a smooth satain finish on it!" .....

[dire igloo]

Because Finnish people know better

[tough owl]

Some do

[charred pewter]

best bed design ever ... the engineering work that went into this paid off, ive never slept better in my life ...

[tough owl]

Money laundering

[sharp oasis]

I might not get a new mobo and just do an in place upgrade and use some 90° cable bends

[pure karma]

you might be able to get away whit it

its mostly the USB a and USB c conections to the mobo for the front pannel that just dont work at all

[sharp oasis]

My mobo does have a side plug in USB 3.0

I've found nzxts USB cable easy to work witb

[twin dew]

Noctua doing three versions of the second gen NH-D15, which is finally shipping to retailers.
High convex (Intel), standard and low convex (AMD).
1mm washer-mod washers included in package...

So based those Noctua numbers, the HBC version would work fine on Intel without contact frame or washer mod.
But the Standard needs one or the other, and LBC would just suck.

[maiden coyote]

And an additional $450 for shipping, what a deal

[night girder]

To Americans... so it might work? 🤔 joking joking ... or not? 👀

[twin dew]

Well, the site has been up for years at this point.

[night girder]

Never heard of it. Probably I am not their targeted audiance.

[twin dew]

I really don't remember how long ago the site went through finnish population for laughs.

Long time ago.

[edgy hazel]

huh wonder why. Surely has nothing to do with basically every AAA studio currently collapsing

at this point it's just 5 studios sharing 2 developers for all their games. All the others already got fired

they're treating their shit like an amazon wareshouse

[charred pewter]

which is crazy, because games are suddenly becoming "the big boon" in entertainment industry ...

which may just be the problem

too many dipshits greed and bad understanding of gaming, ruining them all

[edgy hazel]

they completely fumbled the bag. Could've just made games but nooo, we had to go public and milk as much money as possible and as soon as the average dude stopped paying 25$ for a weapon skin they started cutting jobs to keep their shareholders happy. And now look where we are. Only good games now are by idie studios building games after the unix philosophy while all the big titles are barely ripe trash made by 1 dev and 2 designers from ubisoft

[twin dew]

And 100 artists, and 200 managers.

[charred pewter]

its a rant, but its on point rant

and 1 ceo telling them all what to do when the ceo hasn't played a single game in their life

[twin dew]

You don't get the 30 minute credits in Ubisoft games from nothing...

[charred pewter]

god

[twin dew]

Yes, I have experienced about 25 minute, non-skippable, end-credits in some AAA game...

[charred pewter]

the 1 hour RDR2 credits was crazy

but it had some good images with it, and music

AAA has begun to be a negative thing now for games

[edgy hazel]

we're at military grade games now

[dire igloo]

Imo the COVID pandemic - as much as it helped gaming become popular - I think actually hurt the gaming industry by introducing it to greedy business fucks who saw it as a quickly developing market they could exploit

[charred pewter]

yeah, sadly

it couldnt just be 'games are for kids' and left alone by the bigcorps

[twin dew]

Those greedy fucks have been in control of the big "studios" (EA, Ubisoft etc.) for 10+ years.

[charred pewter]

ruining them at every step i might add

[twin dew]

Yup

[charred pewter]

EA is now so bad, its nothing i even WANT to consider

Ubisoft is getting there... i think the last few games i have not yet played will be the last ones, as im not buying anymore of their stuff

even though i really want that Star Wars game ... i ... euhg ... not gonna pay $90 for it

so i have two assassins creeds (oddy and valhal), and then far cry 6 ... then thats it... ubisoft is gonna get uninstalled

[twin dew]

EA was already significantly on that path in early 2000:s.

[charred pewter]

yup

[twin dew]

And with 2007 when John Riccitiello came the CEO, it got terminal.

[charred pewter]

i mean, if it wernt for ... uh ... Jedi uh ... guh, some game i bought on Steam, it forced me to install EA Launcher to play it ...

i never installed "Origin" ... it was garbage, i didnt have any game that needed it either, and wasnt about to buy anything from EA for it

then i got a couple 'freebie's off Epic, which again went over to the EA Launcher. guh ... yeah, uninstalled all of that (thankfully didnt pay for it)

I think i spent $4 on the Jedi game, it was some 90% sale lol

Fallen Order, that was it .... $4 sale, and required EA Launcher

it was ok game but EA is shit, and i just wont bother. Fuck Mass Effect

[twin dew]

Good for you to remind me that I need to uninstall Jedi Survivor and EA App (previously known as Origin).

Got it with the CPU.

[charred pewter]

ah heh

[twin dew]

Played through, time to uninstall and forget.

[charred pewter]

like Ubisoft Connect, previously known as Uplay ... why they change their names to something WORSE ....

least Steam didnt turn into Valve Corporation Game Service Launcher.exe

[twin dew]

Because the people at top think that their companies have positive reputation, so using it is good?

[charred pewter]

HAHA ...

yeah 😦 again, the top being out of touch with their market

btw back to the covid crisis ... yeah, there was a huge boon in game sales during that

all kinds of games were selling, crap, mediocre, casual, top end

[dire igloo]

There are some glimpses of hope (HD2, BG3, Guardians of the Galaxy) but the overall trend is downwards

And even HD2 isn't safe

[charred pewter]

HD2 is ... in a state of decay unless they can pull off some good patches

but they were not AAA

they were one of those indie groups who suddenly realized they had a hit when it exploded on them and they couldnt handle the load 😄

then bigfuck sony shoved their elbows in and did a nasty, and they lost rep all over the place

[twin dew]

And now the same PSN mandatory is coming to all future Sony PC games.

Best was that one on Steam where if you aren't from PSN country, you can buy just all the DLC for some reason, but not the actual game

[charred pewter]

which really cuts into the country list they allow ... which cuts their sales down big time, and by doing so they will see 'lower sales than expected for pc market', and think the pc market isnt worth it and then go back to PS5 exlcusives

[twin dew]

With the "<Something> Digital Deluxe Edition" for 10 currency units, as that is the price of the extra DLC, and the base game isn't included, and the price would normally just be the base game + that 10.

[charred pewter]

i get annoyed when they divide a game up AT LAUNCH ...

just release the game with all the content you have at launch, at launch. add shit later for more money

[twin dew]

Just the crap extra starter equipment and soundtrack.

God of War: Ragnarök was the game.

[charred pewter]

i never understood the starter equipment stuff thing .... its always such crap items, and rendered useless the minute you loot anything else ... yeah im gonna pay $5 for that

and if it 'looks cool', tough, its just started equipment and you cant really enjoy wearing it. and theres nothing in the game to use the skin/looks on higher tier stuff