off-topic-tech

[dire igloo]

They have some really shitty ones (VS) but also best on the market.
Usually overpriced tho

Nah, they just cost a lot for mediocre performance

Good pumps tho

Didn't the QX120 get absolutely shit on in reviews, even disregarding price?
Plus the hotspotting on the RGB is super obvious

iirc the last time Corsair had a fan that performed well was ML120.

[pure karma]

i just noticed something and now im confused

whats the difrence between memory density and capacity

[twin dew]

In what?

Probably per chip capacity, and total capacity?

[jagged snow]

I thought the rgb diffuser was the only real problem

Although I'd totally believe the fan was crap too

[dire igloo]

lol, nope. The performance is absolutely awful, even for RGB fans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SgEQ2kAXGk

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-icue-link-qx120-rgb-120-mm-fan/5.html

[jagged snow]

Well good to know
Will make sure to recommend against 👍

[solar pendant]

is anyone here playing on macbooks?

[lament ember]

I don't have macbook but on PC

[solar pendant]

currently downloading

[edgy hazel]

what game is that

[twin dew]

And Satisfactory doesn't work in Parallels.
No idea what emulator you are using, but Parallels (at least month ago still) doesn't support UE5 games.

[solar pendant]

Game Porting Toolkit

[pure karma]

ram

[twin dew]

But more exactly.

[pure karma]

like this 4GB ram stick here says it has 8192MB of memory density

and im confused whats the difrence between capacity and density

[twin dew]

Or it is 8GB stick in reality?

Would need to see the whole sticker?
Or what the fuck you are pulling that "8192MB of memory density" from and misrepresenting it somehow.

[tough owl]

[twin dew]

What does it say exactly?

[pure karma]

im looking at it trough occt not the sticker

[twin dew]

Then attach screenshot?

[pure karma]

im working on it there isent enough ram to take a screenshot hold on lol

[tough owl]

🤨

[pure karma]

im partially dumb i dident notice it was Mb and not MB but that still dosent line up right?

[twin dew]

Mb, not MB.

[tough owl]

megaBIT

not megabyte

[twin dew]

So crappy stick with x16 chips.

4GB stick made of 4x 8Gb 1Rx16 chips.

Instead of 8x 4Gb 1Rx8 chips.

[pure karma]

well its not particularly new so its not like i expect it to be good

[twin dew]

Newer the stick is, higher chance a low capacity stick is x16 chips.

But that is laptop RAM?
So x16 is expected.

[pure karma]

yea its laptop ram

[twin dew]

Most SODIMMs are x16:s.

You CAN get x8 SODIMMs, but those are pretty rare.

But that is the per RAM chip capacity, in megabits.

[twin dew]

Which is what I expected it to be here.

[pure karma]

still having fun trying to get games to run on 4GB of ram lol

[solar pendant]

try the newest cod

[pure karma]

dont have it

[twin dew]

So 8192Mb is 1GB, and 4x 1GB is 4GB.

So 4GB SODIMM with four RAM chips on it.

[tough owl]

I think its because sometimes laptops dont like ram chips being on both sides of the dimm and will only take single sided dimms due them wanting to be ultra thin, could be wrong but thats what i think

[sterile plinth]

@twin dew i can go up to 150$ for a table if you got one in mind

[twin dew]

Also price difference.
Half the number of RAM chips affects the BOM too.

[sterile plinth]

i just need it to be exactly 70cm long

[tough owl]

$150 for a table, man im happy with cheap $20 ikea tabletop and $20 legs from amazon

[sterile plinth]

idk baldur and frigidman were shitting on how bad the tabletop of a 100$ i found is
and they're probably right

[twin dew]

And even the IKEA chipboard tabletop will work, just cannot use monitor clamps etc. with it.

[tough owl]

oh its probably is a bad tabletop for monitor clamps

but for basic use its fine

[twin dew]

Mainly the shitting on the chipboard tabletop is that you cannot screw or clamp anything into it.
Just placing normal stuff on it will work fine.

[sharp oasis]

My phone no feel good

[sterile plinth]

i will probably put a monitor clamp

for 150 instead of 100 is there anything that could have better tabletop

[twin dew]

We don't live in your country, so we have no idea.

[pure karma]

i think some shit just exploded in my laptop....

[sterile plinth]

damn

[sterile plinth]

eh, check the ikea of your own country

theyre usually the same

[pure karma]

the battery went down like 40% in one go and its sounds like perhapse there is arcing going on

[twin dew]

No, I'm not going to try to look through the Ikea catalogue for you.
I did say how to check the material.

As Ikea lists every variant of same product as separate entry in the main page.

[edgy hazel]

bold move

[dire igloo]

before you go "it's probably fine" - this is what you're getting yourself into with a cheap tabletop

[sterile plinth]

what materials would you consider good

[twin dew]

Not chipboard.

[sterile plinth]

aight

[edgy hazel]

we had that discussion in this channel now 30 times in the last week

just search "desk" in #off-topic-tech

[solemn perch]

meh it's fine, my 6 screens are holding well

[sterile plinth]

whats annoying is that when you put "wood" in the material filter in ikea it shows chipboard ones

[dire igloo]

Doesn't mean that a different, cheaper desk will too

[solemn perch]

To be fair you could have distributed the stress by putting a plate on both sides of the clamp to stop it being a specific pain point

[sterile plinth]

damn thats 2 monitors

on one point

i mean idk, would a 24" single monitor on a stand be that bad on the chipboard one

[edgy hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/head-bang-monday-morning-frustrated-mad-annoyed-gif-4304818820675516563

[twin dew]

Yes.

If you mean that kind of clamp on stand.

Without extra plates like meltedtiger has.

[mental oriole]

Me today

[visual tree]

Update on the crazy neighbour blocking ISP from installing street fiber distribution cabinet: she is getting sued if she prevents contractors from installing the cabinet next time

[edgy hazel]

put some tags on that cabinet towards her house

[visual tree]

My reaction if I notice the police:

[edgy hazel]

:)

[visual tree]

You mean phallic art on the back of the cabinet facing the apartment building?

[edgy hazel]

or that lmao

[charred pewter]

nice!

[charred pewter]

while the big cabinent my ISP put on our street pole is kind of ... ugly and obnoxious... its three doors down so i dont have to actually look at it 😉 but i could imagine the house its right in front of, is none to happy about the eyesore

[edgy hazel]

it's one cabinet. Put a bush infront of it

[charred pewter]

if it landed in my front yard ... i prolly would go out some night and paint the side facing me in a neutral green/brown so it blends in mostly

[visual tree]

What's more tragic is that neighbour is a tenant representative (the person who represents all apartment owners in the building and manages building affairs)

Or whatever the english term is for the tenant representative, our laws are a little bit different here

[charred pewter]

ours is actually hung up on the pole by about 4 feet... so a 'bush' would not reach it, and a bush big enough would end up starting to grow over the walkway and street

[edgy hazel]

Front yards are trash anyways

[charred pewter]

not on my street ! 😄

we dont have a HOA ... but everyone agrees to keep their fronts clean/clear/trimmed

[visual tree]

ISP got city perms so they have every right to install the cabinet. That neighbour is going to have a fun time in court lol

[edgy hazel]

You can party way harder in a backyard

[charred pewter]

yeah, fighting utility companies is a pointless endevour

nice thing though when they ran fiber down our street, they did remove a bunch of old cruft from the poles, and houses ... old wires, old equipments, old boxes ...

[visual tree]

This is how the cabinet looks like (one of the installed cabinets in the city):

[charred pewter]

holy

thats a biggun!

[stray badger]

Looks pretty standard

[charred pewter]

ours is like less than 1/4th that size, and hanging on the side of that pole there a few feet off the ground

"safe from snow plows" lol

[visual tree]

Other ISP's have a version that is lower but wider

[charred pewter]

"and dogs peeing on it"

[visual tree]

Example of a cabinet from another ISP:

[charred pewter]

gawd

i'd prefer the blank slate LOL

next thing, they will put a full LCD billboard panel on them so they can rotate deals and shit

[visual tree]

I guess in USA you have multiple smaller cabinets in each street. Here, ISP will usually install one large cabinet to cover the whole district

[stray badger]

Yeah, and some are even under the sidewalk in business areas

[visual tree]

And all customer fiber leads to that cabinet

[stray badger]

Granted, that is how we do regular internet/cable, still no fiber yet

[visual tree]

Oh, we have that here too. You are probably talking about a small cabinet where coax amplifier is installed

They are installed in front of every apartment building and they are much smaller

Like this

[wanton orchid]

this usually goes into a wider one close to multiple street mutual corner

[visual tree]

Never seen what the interior looks like but from what I read online, it only contains coax amplifier for cable internet

*and perhaps something else too

Nvm, found some picture online, it's probably the same cabinet but wider

[maiden coyote]

Performance is meh, but it does the job. If it last a long time and doesn't cause any issues I'll consider it a good purchase. Issues with aios is what's kept me away from them for the longest

Has anyone here tried to back feed an afci breaker? Like hook a generator up to a circuit that's protected by one

[visual tree]

Not an electrician but I don't like the sound of backfeeding anything related to electricity

[maiden coyote]

It's common practice if you've got to hook up a portable generator without a transfer switch.

Turn off your main, plug the genny into the dryer plug

[tough owl]

cleaning lint out of my phones usbc port is not good feeling

i feel like that inner tab thing is gonna break so easy

[pure karma]

🤣

[solemn perch]

I really need to get round to setting up my MX records etc for my new domain

[languid gulch]

what in the redneck is that

[untold dock]

When you want a ceiling fan but also want ceiling light at the same time.

[jagged snow]

And don't want a fan with a light built in

[untold dock]

Well, they do they. I personally think the spinning shadows will trip me up more than anything. Quick way to get epilepsy.

[languid gulch]

the thing is, they clearly put a fair amount of work into it

the cuts are really clean

[untold dock]

It's more the effect of use. Like I said, the fan will make the lights cast spinning shadows, and it will not be good for the eyes

[tough owl]

It’s not stupid if it works

[languid gulch]

yea, epilepsy tester

[twin dew]

Common in US.
Still very dangerous even there.
Not really allowed in any other western country AFAIK.

The used cords are named "Suicide cord" for a reason.

[jagged snow]

I would not describe is as common

[twin dew]

Common as is that significant percent of generator owners use it instead of proper installation.
Not that significant amount of people use it.

[languid gulch]

at least they're just doing stuff that'd knock out a house & not working at a nuclear plant

[jagged snow]

The issue with those isn't anything do to with the house, but the lineman that may be working to resore an outage

[twin dew]

That is one part.
Another is that connecting & disconnecting phase where you can have power in exposed pins if you do it in wrong order.

[jagged snow]

To be honest, that's not too much worse than our plugs anyways

[twin dew]

That is where the "suicide" comes from.

[jagged snow]

Most of our electrical system is safer than other countries tend to give us credit for, put the plug design really could be a bit better

[languid gulch]

would be interesting to see if they're going to start adding in low voltage lines in houses just for lighting

[jagged snow]

I think this is going to be very cool https://www.youtube.com/@micronics3d

[wanton orchid]

engineering side house tension is already low
and it would mean less efficient light than currently
and it will not make people safe against rogue "electrician" anyway

[twin dew]

LED lighting is downconverting the voltage usually to 12-24V before being fed to the strips.

And currently all the LED replacement lights for older styles have integrated downconvertion from 120/230V AC to few volts DC.

So integrated 48V DC system could work, if standardized onto.

[wanton orchid]

I mean would it be worth increasing miles of electric cable efficiency

[wanton orchid]

I've seen almost direct connect one
it's the stupid old one that have poor down converters
led can be manufactured with high tension in mind
actually high density led commonly go up 36-48V

[twin dew]

Because the better strips have integrated constant current drivers.
Which handles the downconversion from some sane DC voltage to what the specific LED used needs.

Worse strips just have resistors.

And that was why I did say 48V DC.
As that could be done without any extra electronics between the house source and the strips.

[wanton orchid]

I meant 36-48v at the led not at the bubble
have lower tension is harder to manufacture

[twin dew]

And is below the 50V DC safety limit, and is high enough to still handle pretty high currents without excessive wire sizes.

[twin dew]

"tension" in this case means?
AFAIK you are using wrong word there...
LEDs are current driven.
And need current limiting or they burn out once the voltage is above the threshold voltage.
Which is less than 4V for all types AFAIK.

Some colors are less than 2V.

Any LED that can just be "plugged in" without external constant current driver or current limiting resistor has such thing in the module.

[wanton orchid]

nope leds are current driven but you need to reach their tension threshold which is high
unless it's a very small led

[twin dew]

They don't really care about the voltage, if the current is kept in check, up to some limit based on the material.

The forward voltage?

I have no idea where you have gotten that "tension" from...

[wanton orchid]

example : a 36V led will start flowing at 35V or something usually and burn at 38V

[twin dew]

The high voltage is only if there are LEDs in series.

Where you multiply the individual LEDs forward voltage with the amount of LEDs in series.

And yes, that is used, but still needs the current limiter.
Just need one per series, instead of one per LED when in parallel.

[wanton orchid]

a small resistor is enough to current limit in this case

[twin dew]

That is the normal way, just worse result than with constant current driver.
As the source voltage will cause current changes, which will cause light level changes.
And also more losses, as the resistors voltage drop is pure loss.

So like I said, better strips have constant current drivers in them, only bad ones still use just resistors.

[wanton orchid]

but it only needs to drop few V
the few V not dropped by the led package

[twin dew]

Yes, the difference gets smaller the more LEDs you have in series.
Just that most 12 and 24V strips have all the LEDs in parallel.

[wanton orchid]

it's just increasing operating voltage range of leds

[twin dew]

Don't know about industrial installation ones.

[wanton orchid]

I mean 110V led strip with a small resistor allowing it to not burn at 125 (line spike)

putting dc current driver will get more lossy in a small package

[twin dew]

You cannot really run LEDs on unfiltered AC.
Too fast response time, will strobe visibly.

So there always needs to be DC conversion and filtering, even if that is to as high as you can get from 110V AC.

Even just DC conversion without filtering isn't enough.

[wanton orchid]

if you put simple diode inverter it's 100hz

[twin dew]

Yes, and still visible, as the LED response time is much faster.

[wanton orchid]

with that setup the constant current driver can be as simple as a small coil
with a response a bit longer than 1/100s

diode inverter -> small resistor -> small coil -> high tension led strip
I think it's doing

[twin dew]

And is this theoretical, or are there any actual products out there?
And again with that "tension"...

Seems to be "direct" translation from French...

For Voltage.

I need to open next E27 LED bulb that breaks and see what is inside...

[wanton orchid]

voltage is effect of electric tension
yes it's more used commonly in French but it's still a word in English

[twin dew]

Yes, I did read it has entered the vocabulary in some places.

[wanton orchid]

the one with that plastic white part that is burning hot and small have some retard conversion in it and should be illegal
the new one are almost straight led to ac, and don't burn so much
if you have the later it would be nicer

I expect tension to be more used in European English than in usa

[twin dew]

Cannot say that as finnish, I have ever heard or seen it being used as synonym for Voltage before today.

And even in Finnish the word for Voltage is "Jännite", which would directly translate more closely with Tension.
But as it isn't any closer to the Finnish word, that kind of mistranslation isn't commonly happening.

More directly in other contexts.

The good side from so different language that there are very few words that map cleanly to English etc. anywhere near 1:1.
So we always have to think about the context when doing a translation.

[pure karma]

its 9:45 am and i have until 1:25PM worth of literally just free periods

school is kinda a joke honestly

[tough owl]

Leave

[stray badger]

It must be, because i have never heard "tension" used to describe voltage in the US

[twin dew]

Mistranslation from some languages that has gained ground it seems.

[sterile plinth]

www.aroundhome.gr/grafeio-ergasias-120x70-me-ksylini-epifaneia-se-kerasi-xroma-eo124-01new-eo124-01

@twin dew what u think about this one

seems to be same dimensions, 20$ cheaper than ikea one, and says its real wood

[edgy hazel]

😒

Baldur what are some good financing options for a house? Oh and while you're at it, my lavender keeps wilting, how do I solve that?

Also could you do my grocery shopping for next week?

[dire igloo]

Parent money.
Regular watering.

Hope that helped.

[edgy hazel]

Okay thank you. I'll make sure to ask the same question tomorrow but slightly altered.

[jagged snow]

Yup
And remember to forget the answer we gave you today when you do

[edgy hazel]

Absolutely

[twin dew]

And that I will have no idea about if specific Greek company is trustworthy or not, or if something sold there is good or not.

[edgy hazel]

can you recommend a fertiliser for my lavender from here: www.google.com

[tough owl]

Can you ship me some lavender

[maiden coyote]

damnit double converion UPS's are expensive

it's now allowed here either. The way they want is a transfer switched installed at your panel and no male-male "suicide" extension cords. However having a transfer switch installed is no small task.. so most people in area's that are prone to bad storms that may knock out power for months, either have the money and spend ~30k to have a generator installed that runs on natural gas.. or don't and either know that before hooking the genny up, disconnect the main and any other high draw appliances (central air, electric water heaters and the breaker that the genny will use) plug it all up, and then start the genny.

[winged valley]

Who here is a printer expert

Mechanically

[maiden coyote]

laser or inkjet?

[winged valley]

laser

But the problem I'm having is with the feeder/paper tray

Not the fuser or any actual printing mechanisms

[twin dew]

How old printer?
If the issue is not getting any paper that is usually the pickup rollers being too old or worn.
Relubricating the surface with silicone oil can help in some cases.

If getting multiple papers, the separation pad is too old or worn.

[winged valley]

I'm drawing hang on

[pure karma]

ahh... gotta love seeing battery wear double overnight... yesterday it was at 27% this morning 35% and now its at 42%

[winged valley]

Okay really bad diagram incoming

[twin dew]

That upper is pickup roller, should be semi-pliable and somewhat sticky.
The lower is the separation pad.

[winged valley]

Here's the sequence of events:

1 - Paper in tray
2 - Printer spins up
3 - Paper gets pushed up slightly, I assume into the rollers
4 - Paper will jolt slightly, I assume because the top roller moves it
5 - Paper stops moving, printer almost immediately gives up and reports a paper jame

[twin dew]

So the classic I just listed here, the upper roller is too old/worn/hard.

[winged valley]

Through various experiments (by that I mean I have no idea what I did) I managed to get the paper to very slightly clear and barely make it into the back rollers (not drawn) but it didn't pull through

[twin dew]

There is sensor just past the roller and if the paper doesn't trigger it very fast, that error happens.

[winged valley]

What's weird though is that it worked fine before I took it apart

[solemn perch]

had a weird case with cloudflare, I'm seeing a bunch of emails forwarding but it's showing as (other) and I can't see any record that it was an email being sent

[winged valley]

So did I break it or bad luck? I never even touched the roller

[solemn perch]

and I've checked all MX records for my friend's DNS domain I control for hin

[winged valley]

So what is he not able to send or receive

[twin dew]

What did you take apart?

[winged valley]

If he can't receive, then the only thing I can think of (granted I'm not an expert on this) is he's hosting his own SMTP server which fell out of favor with DNS authorities for some reason

[twin dew]

Might have been open relay, allowing outsiders to send spam via it.
Or most large receivers now require SPF, DKIM and/or DMARC.

[solemn perch]

well over the past couple of days I see the email stats show a sucessful forward, but like a month ago there's about 150 odd marked as "Other"

[winged valley]

Hard to say, but a lot. Originally I was trying to fix smudgy prints, figured the drum/roller/belt/i dont know printer vocab was dirty so I got to it and cleaned it. But most of that was top, middle, front, and sides. I hardly touched the back and I know for a fact I never touched the upper roller

[solemn perch]

I've put a soft fail on the DMARC

[twin dew]

How old printer?
Officially those are in the replacement schedule every couple of years or X k pages in most non-consumer printers.

[twin dew]

But can be made to work for way longer with those silicone oil "cleanups".

[winged valley]

It's a Dell C1760NW so like very old

9-10 years old

So does that make the answer "unlucky" or "your fault"

[twin dew]

So probably just too hard.
So they should have toolless removal.

Unlucky.

[winged valley]

And you're saying I can just re-sticky the roller, no need to replace it?

[twin dew]

Yes.

[winged valley]

Left picture is just zoomed out of the back, right picture circled is the pickup roller (from the back)

Doesn't seem like it'll be toolless unfortunately, in fact it seems like I'll have to remove a lot to get to it

It also doesn't have its own motor, instead being tied into the whole gearbox

[twin dew]

Not often replaceable in that small size printers, those are more like consumer ones.

Would be moveable to one side if it was.

With clip or like to get it free.

[winged valley]

So then I guess the next option would be to get a qtip or something, apply sticky to it, get the roller rolling and then stick it in there?

[edgy hazel]

found the issue:

[twin dew]

Not necessarely sticky, what I have been doing is just that silicone oil/spray cleanup/"moisturizing" and then just paper towel dry.

[winged valley]

Yes I know it's weird but again I never touched the roller lmao

[winged valley]

Silicone oil? Never heard of that let me look into it

[twin dew]

You can easily check if that is the problem by pushing the top paper a little when the feeding should happen.
If that helps, then its this.

[winged valley]

It seems like it barely helps. Like it'll push it a little farther to a point but not nearly enough for it to feed all the way

So I guess it is the roller maybe then?

[twin dew]

Might be that the next series of rollers that aren't turning powered?
The first in some cases is only D shaped for example.

[winged valley]

They are turning but it doesn't even make it to them

[twin dew]

There should be something that raises the whole stack, then the bottom separation pad that stops all but the one paper from moving, and then the top roller that moves that top paper.
The separation pad is to separate second sheet if one is sticking to the bottom of the first.

But the raising seems to be happening in the picture.

[winged valley]

Yes te raising happens

[twin dew]

Yeah, so only possibility is that first roller.
And it should move the paper 1:1 with the turning of it.

[winged valley]

There's a top roller and a bottom roller, and you're saying the bottom one is a separation pad right?

What I'm reading says that to clean the rollers (near the paper tray) you just use alchohol and cloth, it doesn't mention silicone oil anywhere

Are you saying that because it's a plastic roller (which wouldn't have much friction)?

[twin dew]

Yeah, for cleaning.
Silicone oil is plastic/rubber preservative and somewhat reduces the effects of aging related hardening.

It isn't normal maintenance, but a thing that has worked for me to get old rollers back into service.

[winged valley]

Gotcha, well if I'm lucky my dad might have some, otherwise I'm off to the store

Hopefully this works and if it does thanks

Is there any special way to apply the oil? And do I need to wait a bit or do anything extra or should it instantly work?

[twin dew]

This kind of stuff in spray format.
www.biltema.fi/en-fi/car-care/lubrication/grease/silicone-spray-400-ml-2000017071

Helps with car seals etc.

www.wd40.com/products/silicone-lubricant/

But basically generic rubber & plastic safe oil, in spray can format.
Which is actually good for soft plastics and rubbers.

[winged valley]

This

[twin dew]

IIRC I either put the removed roller on paper towel, sprayed it, then wiped extra off.
Or sprayed on paper towel, wiped onto the roller.

Depending if removable or not.

[winged valley]

And do I need to wait or should it work immediately

[twin dew]

Should work right after.

[winged valley]

Got it

Man this is why I don't like mechanical things

Because you're telling me that if this works, it means that the solution to my problem was magic oil because of the chemistry of hard plastic

I mean I get it, it makes sense, but I prefer digital

[sterile plinth]

Baldur possesses all knowledge known to man

[winged valley]

Would regular WD-40 work or do I need specifically silicone lubricant

[twin dew]

WD-40 isn't suitable for rubbers.
It has nothing to do with silicone oil.
That was just from same company.

[winged valley]

Got it

Is plastic a rubber?

I don't understand why you said rubbers

Actually nvm it doesn't matter I am just going to figure out the silicone lubricant thanks

[twin dew]

WD-40 isn't even actually a lubricant.
It is water displacement/protection agent developed for US ICBM program.
40th formulation.
(WD=Water Displacement).

Yes, it works as crappy lubricant, for a time.

And as semi-crappy penetrating oil.

And I do have can in the trunk of my car anyways.

Anyways, dual feed-rollers and separator for my current printer:

The separator doesn't really turn without extra force.

[visual tree]

@maiden coyote Remember when I said Unifi U6+ should be enough for my home needs?

I need more

I'm addicted now and plan on buying some additional products lol

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/so-it-begins-raining-rainy-day-théoden-lord-of-the-rings-gif-16521230

[winged valley]

@twin dew update, it wasn't the feeder

It was the separator pressing too hard against the feeder

[twin dew]

Yeah, those two are opposing each other once the possible second paper is stopped.

[winged valley]

So now it goes through, but we have a new problem. The second set of rollers just... Stops rolling??? And doesn't feed the paper??

[tough owl]

I feel like this is every ubiquiti owner

[winged valley]

these guys

And I know everything is wired correctly so i'm at a loss now

[night girder]

Hope they don't do an Apple (lock eco system, products only work with products of same brand etc)

[winged valley]

If I cancel the job and force a feed they will spin

Making it even more confusing

[tough owl]

I feel like that’d not end in their favor given how late into their company life they are

[twin dew]

And it is still the balance probably.
The pickup roller being too weak and the separator being too strong.

And not feeding the paper forward fast enough.

[winged valley]

Let me try reducing some tension on the separator then

[twin dew]

So the process stops.

Problem is that making the separator weaker, you increase risk of dual-feed.

[winged valley]

Well update, weakening the separator does not change the feed speed

Also, the rollers stop rolling after refresh, not in the middle of the print so my bad

For some reason they won't start rolling. I really doubt there's a sensor I forgot to plug in

Maybe its a firmware problem

No that doesn't make sense

[twin dew]

Only one would be that first feed status sensor, usually optical, but some printers did use microswitches.

That gets toggled when the paper starts to feed.
Might be between the pickup roller and next, or at or after the next roller.

[sterile plinth]

white or black keyboard, which one do yall prefer

ig its preference, ive never tried anything white cause im worried sweat is gonna turn them yellow 😂

[edgy hazel]

brother you gotta start to make some decisions in your life on your own

[sterile plinth]

just asking for preference lol

it makes no difference anyway

[edgy hazel]

you're so close to start asking us if you should go for "sports fresh" or "active power" shampoo

(sports fresh is better)

[sterile plinth]

baldur can you do my taxes for me 🥺

[sterile plinth]

what is active power even supposed to mean lol

ive never seen that kinda labeling

[edgy hazel]

I was close

[sterile plinth]

crazy

[visual tree]

Here, we don't have to do taxes for received salary

The employer is responsible for calculating taxes (and deducting them from your salary)

[sterile plinth]

damn, wheres that

im gonna move there

[visual tree]

Croatia

[sterile plinth]

so its the same as sales tax? where the seller is responsible for adding the tax price to the product and he pays it in the end

[tough owl]

how most jobs in america do it too iirc

[visual tree]

Here, all prices include VAT and the burden of paying VAT is moved to customers

You already pay taxes when you buy something in the store

[dire igloo]

happens in Germany too - you should still file an income tax report, it's very likely that your employer missed some info on the calculations

[sterile plinth]

that happens in every country

thats just how vat works

[dire igloo]

not in the US

[sterile plinth]

huh?

you have to manually file your VAT taxes? for every product you have bought the whole year?

thats always the seller's job

[visual tree]

Regarding salaries, guess in some countries you receive the salary and you have to calculate taxes by yourself

[twin dew]

Mixing payroll taxed and VAT.

[sterile plinth]

i think firework was talking about vat since he was replying to asablic

[dire igloo]

no, VAT is added at checkout but the product prices you see don't include it

[visual tree]

Yeah, VAT and salary taxes are different things

[tough owl]

i love being taxed on the money i make and the money i spend(its the same money)

[dire igloo]

you can deduct VAT from products if it was a business expense (at least here in Germany) so you don't pay the tax twice

[sterile plinth]

oh damn

that is.... pointless

[dire igloo]

also, VAT rates are different across US states

[twin dew]

In US, the VAT can depend on the exact county, not just state...

[dire igloo]

and are generally lower than in Europe - even Germany's reduced rate of 7% would be comparably high in the US

[visual tree]

Online stores here in EU with higher revenue charge VAT rate depending on where the product is being shipped to

For example, if I order something from Amazon.de and decide to ship it to a german mailbox, I will pay 19% german VAT rate

But if I order something from Amazon.de and ship it to Croatia, I will pay 25% VAT rate

[dire igloo]

which I think might even be mandated by law: if you do business in a certain country or offer business in that country, you have to file your taxes in that country

I think Amazon got away with that for a long time by being active in the entire EU and only paying sales tax in like Ireland or Luxembourg where it's super low

[twin dew]

There is yearly revenue limit when you need to start doing that.

For selling out of your own country.

[visual tree]

Yeah, I remember it was something about this

[twin dew]

Don't remember if the limit was per destination country, or just into EU in general.

[visual tree]

Small online shops that have low revenue probably only charge local VAT

We have the second highest VAT in Europe 😭

[twin dew]

Going to be raised to 25.5% in Finland.

[visual tree]

💀

Pro tip: when shopping online, you can use parcel forwarding service to pay lower VAT

This is 100% legal btw (inside EU)

[tough owl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEaGyCAS9fY man now I want a device equipped with this

[winged valley]

I don't understand this at all

There is an ifixit guide for a different error but the same printer. In 2 of the pictures, I see a blue cable that I'm missing. It could potentially be a sensor, but I'm unsure. Based on the pictures, it's on the opposite side of the printer as the board it plugs into. But this makes zero sense as I've pretty much disassembled that entire side and I see no such cable.

Maybe it's the reason it won't feed, maybe it's not. I don't remember there ever being a cable plugged in there to begin with

Is it worth the risk to try jumping it and see what happens?

[dire igloo]

I'm gonna need your takes on this:
When buying a used NVMe drive, is there a serious risk of the drive being malware-infested (either through files on it or in firmware)?

"serious" in the sense of "you should take precautions against it"
And if so, which ones?

[night girder]

just erase disk to be safe?

[sterile plinth]

after searching for desks for a while apparently all of them are chipboard these days

i cant find any big-sized wood one for less than 250 😔

guess chipboard it is, ill just try to get a thick one

[night girder]

why not make your own?

[sterile plinth]

that would be hard

cutting the wood and polishing it to the shape i want then attaching legs to it

im not experienced with these things haha

[night girder]

sometimes you can find cheap second hand frames. Then all you need is the wood.

If you lucky, it's around 250

[sterile plinth]

yeah, still quite a bit

[night girder]

yeah I know, but it is what it is 😄

We cannot change prices.

[sterile plinth]

well you're paying for the extra quality no doubt about that

i think ill go with chipboard, if its thick enough it should support my stuff

[sterile plinth]

which one you think is gonna be more rigid

im between these 2

[night girder]

left

[sterile plinth]

one is ikea other one is boomer furniture (still chipboard dont be fooled)

[night girder]

the center piece holds the sides together, so that makes it more rigid.

[sterile plinth]

yep, also looks a little thicker

and has the special holes for cable management

[night girder]

These are some refurbished ones. Second hands I believe.

I myself, I would go for metal frame.

[sterile plinth]

90€

looks metal enough to me

[night girder]

Yeah, but it's up to you ofc 🙂

I just like metal since it's very sturdy. It does weigh a bit more. But then I am sure it can hold the weight.

and most desks that are for offices are bricks 😄 (the quality ones)

[dire igloo]

That solves the file part but not the firmware part

[night girder]

Yeah, I know. But that's a bit paranoid no?

[sterile plinth]

make it 55th

[night girder]

The % chance of someone going through the trouble of messing with the firmware and selling the disk second hand ...

[dire igloo]

You could have your identity stolen or similar.

But yeah, I agree, it's paranoid

[night girder]

and for what a random stranger?

Unless you are a target.

[mental oriole]

Yup... I have a 200x80cm office desk at home... it weighs a ton.

[dire igloo]

If I knew I was a target I wouldn't be buying second hand drives

[night girder]

your identy is already stolen

it's probably in some database already

but yeah I know what you mean.

Still, it's not a massive vector of attack is it?

Selling second hand disks (which cost money) to put malware into the firmware (which is difficult) and then to sell it second hand.

You might reach what? a few 10-50 people if you are lucky? 😂

Honestly, just my common sense here, I highly doubt it. I think software is a better target for hackers.

[night girder]

For how long do you have it if I may ask?

In my experience, they can last for a very long time.

[mental oriole]

3 years now.

[dire igloo]

Exactly, if I were to go through all this effort, I'd find a more lucrative target than some random dude on ebay

[sterile plinth]

is that a metaphor

or does it actually way a ton

[dire igloo]

Also, if you just want random people's identities, phishing emails are much easier to set up and will bring more success overall

[night girder]

Yeah, fish in the biggest pond you can. (Or ocean) 😂

but there are a lot of stories about those usb's that get left behind in strange places

[sterile plinth]

oh i got a lot of stories about usbs

one time we found a usb on school floor, it was from the pe teacher apparently

[dire igloo]

Those are targeted attacks tho.
You leave them in a company's parking lot hoping that an employee picks it up and connects it to a PC inside the network

[sterile plinth]

it was full of cracked 2005 software

[dire igloo]

When selling a drive on FB marketplace, you don't know who your target will be

[sterile plinth]

bro like everything

he also was apparently carrying SCANS OF HIS ID

on an unencrypted flash drive

literal scans of his whole family's IDs, and a txt file with every single password he has on every site

[night girder]

I would have roasted that PE teacher.

Let him search for it for a while or something.

[sterile plinth]

bro we are in a central school these people are like 50something

give em a break

hes lucky i found it though, could have been in much worse hands

not like i didnt have a good laugh

all of his passwords were his favorite football team

[night girder]

But it's for their own sake.

[mental oriole]

Metaphor, but it's pretty heavy the wood alone around, almost 40Kg (rounded up)

[night girder]

That's just dumb.

[sterile plinth]

yeah returned it after some weeks

[night girder]

What if someone with bad intentions found it, used the passwords to login into FB or something and cause some major damage by posting rude things.

[winged valley]

Idk what I did but it's working now

Printers are an affront to god.

[night girder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN14KYOa0O8 I was also thinking of stuff like this.

[winged valley]

They were invented SPECIFICALLY to spite technicians

[mental oriole]

Why I don't trust USB devices

[night girder]

Yeah but the description: "Today, We will be plugging in a usb that has dangerous viruses on it. These malwares were placed on a usb that was within an eBay Mystery Box. This is how a USB gave me a computer virus." 😂

[sterile plinth]

he had his fucking bank passwords inside

[night girder]

Mystery Box

[sterile plinth]

he had 2fa anyways

but yeah, NOT good

[night girder]

Oh shit, it was inside a virtual box and it spread to his main PC? 🤣

[sterile plinth]

Anyway this is my plan I'm gonna put a same-width desk in the place of my old one and a chest of drawers to the right

It's gonna be super epic, and I will finally have enough space to not be forced to have my monitor as left as possible

[sterile plinth]

how is that even possible what

[mental oriole]

[night girder]

Well, if it can detect it's inside a virtual machine

[sterile plinth]

surely

how does it infect outside the VM tho

[night girder]

it's possible to write malicious code to try to break outside it.

but, that's some advanced shit lol.

[dire igloo]

Virtualization softwares can have vulnerabilities that allow for this very thing.
It's why airgap computers still are a thing

[night girder]

😂

[sand saddle]

Fuck yeah I finally finished this stupid fire extinguisher robot project. Every teammate except the programmer was lowkey useless and there were 7 of us in total.

You can see from the video how the plastic cover piece is awfully covering it due to some very questionable construction choices from some of the useless people. In the pic you can see where I fixed it.

Should get a better video in like 2.5 weeks

[pure karma]

ahh shit here we go again

[maiden coyote]

It's a disease.. and there's no cure

[charred pewter]

if my motherboard has a bunch of black minijack ports, but one is orange ...

is the orange one that special tripple minijack that supports mic/headset in one plug?

guessing its not .... i need some sort of 3 pin splitter or something for my headset ... ? cause it only has ONE plug (with the three bands)

strange how this is a brand new motherboard z790a chipset ... yet it doesnt have the newer standard in/out 3.5mm jack for a headset

unless this header supports it ... but i would need whatever could plug into the header ... hmm

[maiden coyote]

your motherboard supports 2 channels on the microphone, your headset doesn't.

but this is what you need.

[charred pewter]

k, just ordered the UGREEN version (im a fan of their cable crap)

made sure its CTIA spec

now i know i can set Discord to specify an output device (the headset ear) ... but i dont think i will be able too in games where I need to use PTT (cause not everyone in the game is in the same discord server/chat channel) ... like HELLDIVERS2

[jagged snow]

You can do that through windows, it works fairly well

Settings > system > sound > volume mixer

[charred pewter]

i dont want to negatively affect the 5.1 standard audio output though... setting default device in windows control panel entirely musses that up

(thanks Creative!)

[jagged snow]

Did you go to the settings page I'm talking about?

[charred pewter]

i cant right now... pc is shut down and nothing is hooked up because i need that splitter first

[jagged snow]

Oh

It lets you pick per app input/output

[charred pewter]

but windows will know where to send voice communication through a different device than default ?

having it pick up the mic (me talking) should be straight forward enough ... but having it chose the headset for other people talking (when its not Discord app)... not sure how

unless the games output on a different channel that windows uses/assigns ? that could work

its been forever since ive used in-game chat features ... normally im sitting in a discord channel with whom im playing the game with and we just chat through discord 😄

[maiden coyote]

windows will let you specify app/device combos

for input and output. like an app input could be device a while the same app outputs on device b

[soft bloom]

I guess its 56th

[jagged snow]

@edgy hazel sorry to ask you in the middle of the night, do you have any advice on what desk I should buy from a very specific regional retalier?

[tough owl]

Yea

IKEA counter with karlby drawers

[soft bloom]

Guys correctly told you baout splitter. I honestly was gladly surprised when my asus headset got one of these, with it.
I would also recommend buying a longer one, to make clean setup. Cable will stay while headsets may change.

[soft bloom]

What is it?..

[charred pewter]

yeah ... a longer one may be nicer to have than using an extension cable i have

although every single splitter i was looking at... were all short like max sized one was only 8inchs about

oh wait, there was an 8 FOOT one, but it was expensive lol so i was like ... naw ... i dont need 8 fricken feet of it

[edgy hazel]

Lmao

[twin dew]

The IKEA on right has metal frame with square metal bar between the left and right visible sides.
But the tabletop is particle board.

Left depends on what material it actually is.

[soft bloom]

2m is just about what you need to pass it behind the desk

I have some cheap one and after 3 or so years it can make noise on mic channel when contact is slightly off

But other than that - its great thing to have definitely better than sticking 2 cables every time

[mental oriole]

Am I stupid or the cpp documentation is misleading? Im trying to create a copy constructor, which takes a volatile T, and trying to default it, but compiler be like nope...
Cppreference has this in the syntax.

class-name::class-name(single-parameter-list) =default;

Single-parameter-list - a parameter list of only one parameter, which is of type T&, const T&, volatile T& or const volatile T& and does not have a default argument

[rustic panther]

I'm not a cpp dev, but it states you need to pass a T& instead of just a T

I don't think you can pass by value here, which is probably what happens if you don't add the ampersand after the type

[mental oriole]

I pass it as a reference.

Still error

Was hoping I didnt have to write a body the default would be able to do for me.

[sterile plinth]

Baldur sorry for waking you up at 4am can you help me do my car payments

[rustic panther]

It do be like that

[charred pewter]

lol damnit amazon shipped it too fast i cant cancel my order for the 8"(20cm) splitter ... oh well !

[pure karma]

is 10.9V concerningly low for a battery that should be at about 13.5V ish

and thats 10.9V at 100% charge

[jagged snow]

What battery is it?

[pure karma]

just a dell laptop battery

[jagged snow]

No it's not, voltage defines state of charge lol

[twin dew]

4-cell laptop battery?
With one cell almost completely dead.
So extreme fire hazard.

Li-ion 4-cell.

[pure karma]

well yea im asking because the wears up to 42% and its been hissing for like 30 hours

[jagged snow]

Put it somewhere away from flammable stuff

Outside

[twin dew]

And I have stated long time ago that the battery was dangerous...

When you could use it at 0% "charge" for long time.

[pure karma]

government property so its not my problem

[jagged snow]

I don't understand why you need us to be your common sense

[pure karma]

i told them and they practically said use it or pay for it

[jagged snow]

Will it be your problem when it blows up in your face? Also your tax dollars will pay for that when you start paying taxes

[pure karma]

maby but then il have a point to make against them

[jagged snow]

Do not keep using it, and absolutely do not ever charge that battery again

properly dispose of it so you don't set the garbage truck on fire

[twin dew]

Cannot, when the school district person is idiot..

[pure karma]

well bad timming on that one

[twin dew]

And it is school property...

[pure karma]

realistically wouldent it turn into a pregnant battery if it dident blow up?

oh well.... it probably did but because this thing has a metal frame it probably just punctured it hence the hisssing i was hearing...

[twin dew]

If it is making noise, it is already in runaway, just slow enough that it isn't right now dangerous.
But soon it will run out of space and start emitting toxic fumes.

So turn the fucker off, remove the battery if possible and get it outside on something non-flammable.

[pure karma]

well it stopped making noise now but it was for like about 30 hours

[pure karma]

i would if i dident need this thing until the 7th of may 💀

[twin dew]

Was it some IT person who wasn't willing to swap the laptop?
Or just your teacher?

[pure karma]

neither the technician or district wants anything to do whit it so im kinda at a standstill

either i change it myself illigally or i just risk having it blow up until then

so neither option is good and the results arent good either

[twin dew]

Get signed documentation about the issue.

For the case that your house burns down or similar cases because of the laptop.

That you tried to get the laptop replaced because of fire danger, and were denied.

[jagged snow]

That should work

Tell the technician that you want documentation that you're being refused replacement for a faulty battery

He'll either just replace it or you butt will be covered when the thing potentially goes off

[twin dew]

And are your parents aware of the issue and refusal?

[pure karma]

no

[twin dew]

Then make them aware ASAP.

[jagged snow]

I didn't take lipo fires seriously until I got into rc cars

Then I saw a 5ah 3s pack go off and decided to take it seriously

[tough owl]

🤨

Lithium battery fires are crazy

[twin dew]

The worst case ones, yes.
But even just non-fire discharge is very toxic and dangerous inside.

[tough owl]

Yea a battery that’s highly flammable is definitely something I’d keep around if it’s hissing

[twin dew]

Kept charging and using it...

[dire igloo]

Hey y'all, I need your advice.
I'm looking for a thingamajig or a thingamabob, which is best? it can only be from this one local shop tho which you've never heard of

[jagged snow]

I don't know, come back and ask again every 12 hours for the rest of the week

[dire igloo]

Okay, thanks, I will

[edgy hazel]

assuming your use-case is to use it as a hongleding, you're best set with a thingamabob instead of a thingamajig. There are several options where the minimum price is way above of what you're ready to spend, of course you can and probably will buy something similar from amazon for a quarter of the price and then you will complain 3 days later that it doesn't fit, is absolutely useless for what you want to do and is already falling apart.

[sterile plinth]

i need to format my PC badly my windows installation is super corrupted but im scared im gonna forget to backup something after its too late

is it possible to dual boot 2 windows installations

so i still have the old one incase i need to recover any files

[edgy hazel]

on 2 different drives yes

windows doesn't like sharing its drive with another OS tho

[twin dew]

Not an issue with UEFI/GPT boot anymore.

Just for old BIOS/MBR boot where Windows would overwrite boot loaders.

[sterile plinth]

oh, i was thinking on the same drive

you know its just INSANELY corrupted

the discord installer exe literally errors

ive tried everything

spotify also refuses to open, firefox crashes at rtandom times, the whole pc crashes at random times

[sterile plinth]

yeah i have UEFI, i should be good then?

a 100gb partition should work

and i add more to it later

[twin dew]

Just have unpartitioned space on a drive and select to use that.

[jagged snow]

Spotify desktop is unusable

[sterile plinth]

yeah bro some songs straight up dont exist on it, they are invisible on my playlist

[jagged snow]

That happens with licensing issues that cause them to be removed

[rotund hamlet]

works fine for me

[jagged snow]

My issue is that it doesn't want to play nicely with my audio driver, becomes unresponsive after about two hours of being open, and doesn't work with media keys

And also the fact that they think 10gb is a reasonable cache size 💀

[twin dew]

Something specific to your system...
I can use it without issues for multiple weeks.
And media keys work fine.

[jagged snow]

This all used to work, quit working a few months ago and I haven't been able to fix it 🤷‍♂️

[twin dew]

As in Spotify not shut down at all for multiple weeks, with Windows running continously.

[jagged snow]

Yeah, I'd been doing that for years

I suspect that this is one of those issues that will only be fixed with a windows reinstall

But it gets to the point where it takes well over a minute to load playlists or respond to me clicking on the play/pause button

[edgy hazel]

works fine on linux

[jagged snow]

Works fine in my browser too

[tough owl]

cant imagine using spotify

[pure karma]

well sorry i dont have like 2 grand to blow on a new laptop 🤷‍♂️

[edgy hazel]

a new battery isn't 2k

[jagged snow]

There are plenty of used laptops on ebay for like 100 bucks that would be enough to get you through

Not to mention the fact that you blew more than that on your pc in the first place buying overpriced hardware

[pure karma]

i bought the cheapest new 4070ti bought the cheapest new 13700K bought the cheapest snx watever the heck ssd's 50% off

i saved money on the expensive things

not the fans tho il admit that

[edgy hazel]

and also we're not forcing you to buy a new laptop. We've made you aware of the risks. It's up to you to either act on them or ignore it

[jagged snow]

You also could've bought a used 6800xt for like 540cad at the time

[pure karma]

but my point is i dont have money to blow on a new laptop because i still owe 1200$ on said desktop

[jagged snow]

You borrowed money for that pc?

[edgy hazel]

You could also get a new battery instead....

[edgy hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/aaa-gif-1155116025040809968

[twin dew]

School owned loaner laptop...

[pure karma]

well yea started whit only 800$ payed back like 2400ish out of the like 3600$ it costed after tax

[edgy hazel]

yeah fuck that. Tell the school that the laptop isn't working properly

[edgy hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/tech-support-whatsapp-dev-team-facepalm-gif-13307268

be happy that golden isn't here rn

[stray badger]

Start sending a lot of emails, save them, save responses if you get any, and then carry a fire extimguisher that can put out battery fires

[edgy hazel]

and don't keep it in the same place that you sleep

[stray badger]

That too

[twin dew]

And tell your parents about the issue...

[stray badger]

That as well

[twin dew]

That the school provided laptop is currently a fire hazard because of broken Li-ion battery.

[stray badger]

At least in the US, schools are terrified of parents because of lawsuits

And in this case, there could be grounds for a pretty big ass suit

Oooh its a 2 pack

[twin dew]

Normal fire extinguishers don't help with Li-ion fires.
Need to either cool it down, or suffocate and get it out.

[edgy hazel]

bucket o sand

[stray badger]

Its an ABC, dry chemical, should work on li-ion

[rotund hamlet]

barrel of sand works too

[stray badger]

Barrel of sand is heavy

[edgy hazel]

buket

[winged valley]

Mobilesentrix is nice for phone parts (although I assume they're all aftermarket) but do you guys know of any wholesale laptop part sellers

All the ones I've found are chinese or selling used stuff

[twin dew]

Laptop manufacturers keep the spare parts close to their chest.
Some do have spare parts sellers, but usually limited to one per continent and pain to find.

[tough owl]

So his parents did pay for it

[twin dew]

Lenovo seems to have moved it to internal, used to still be through horrible IBM system:
support.lenovo.com/us/en/parts-lookup
(should ask to move to correct country with popup)

In EU Acer and Asus are only through www.zandparts.com/en/ AFAIK for example.

[winged valley]

Yeah lenovo parts thing is great

[tough owl]

Most of the time eBay has parts and is likely fine for most of the things

[pure karma]

filling a laptop whit sand isent a solution

and sand would defedently not improve the corosion problem either

[edgy hazel]

no it's so you can throw it in there while you inhale all that sweet sweet sulphurdioxide

[twin dew]

More like dump the sand on the laptop, and hope it doesn't burn through whatever it is sitting on.

[charred pewter]

yup, splitter cable too short... ordered a 4 foot splitter this time

[sharp oasis]

Pocket sand

[visual tree]

https://youtube.com/shorts/6i6nHKfuqIc?feature=shared

[pure karma]

well i guess atleast id be able to say i went down whit my ship

[edgy hazel]

with your ship being a surfboard you borrowed from a rental shop

not really worth going down with

[pure karma]

well best case scenario it lasts until summer i return it to them and then it burns the entire school down over the summer

and they will have regreted refusing the battery replacement

problem solved

[edgy hazel]

worst case you wake up at night to choking, die a painful death and kill everyone in the house

because you were too lazy to get a replacement from your school

[pure karma]

im not going to court or something over a battery replacement

[jagged snow]

Or you burn to death in a house fire

[edgy hazel]

have you ever even asked?

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yea

twice

[jagged snow]

Apparently school IT guy said no

[pure karma]

the normal way and face to face whit the technician

[jagged snow]

So I'd recommend going and asking for documentation that you're being denied the replacement

[edgy hazel]

then I guess you won't have a school laptop or risk killing multiple innocent people and yourself

choice is yours

I don't fuck around with batteries

lithium is scary

[pure karma]

im not declining that lithium is dangerous

[edgy hazel]

and if you really really need a school laptop you could always sell that 4070ti and get a chromebook and a used 6700xt

[pure karma]

funny because that 4070ti is the only reasson the laptop is still even usable

how many charge cycles are lithium ion batteries even rated for like 1000 right?

[jagged snow]

Depends on the exact chemistry

Can't even make a broad generalization

[jagged snow]

And you need to define what you mean by a charge cycle, and under what conditions it's carried out to even begin to approach any sort of conclusion

[pure karma]

plugged in a charged back to 100%

[jagged snow]

From what? Full discharge?

And at what temperature? What rate of charge?

[pure karma]

full discharge at like 35W charge rate i believe

[edgy hazel]

that's like your average modern phone

[pure karma]

either way its defedently way the heck over

its at like 22000 charge cycles

just averaging the amount i charge it

[jagged snow]

No battery would reasonably be rated to full discharge because they're never designed to be drained that low under normal operation

[pure karma]

well then idk 0-30% to full on average then

[jagged snow]

That would be 30 years charging twice a day
You would've got a more realistic number from dropping nsomething on your keyboard

[pure karma]

i charge it 10 times a day

[edgy hazel]

531415

[pure karma]

its shit it lives off the charger

quite literally

[jagged snow]

That's still 6 years

[edgy hazel]

anyways that battery is toast

[pure karma]

365 days X 6 years X 10 cycles (on average)

21,900

to be fair its probably more around maby 18000 because i obviously dont use it EVERY DAY of the year but still its way over none the less

[edgy hazel]

that laptop 100% didn't have 10 charge cycles a day when it was new

you have 10 cycles because you play with a fire hazard

[pure karma]

it had about 3 but i used it half as much back then

and it had double the capcity from said wear not existing

[edgy hazel]

anyways. Let us know when it bursts into flames

[pure karma]

will do

and if it dosent il make sure to light it myself

sure gonna take a while whit the shit cpu its powering only drawing 3W

[charred pewter]

durnit ... if i plug my headset into my Creative SB-Z card (seperate mic and headphone ports) ... i can use the microphone as a device, but i cannot use the headphone port as a device is if i try it completely overrides all the other ports to the 5.1 speaker system.

the Creative software (and hardware) apparently is incapable of making the 'headphone jack' and the 'surround speakers jacks' as two devices to choose/mix/use

grr, Creative .... so this means im gonna have to use the onboard mb headphone jack and install that crap Realtek software just to use it lol ... sigh fml

[maiden coyote]

stable internet

[charred pewter]

i smell sarcasm

[rotund hamlet]

that's not ping that's pong

[thick radish]

IP over USPS

[abstract hawk]

Why borrow money for a pc when you could have just spend less and gotten a pc that runs most games at 60fps at 1080p?

[pure karma]

because i allready had one

[abstract hawk]

4070ti is definitely not worth it if you’re borrowing money to get it…

[pure karma]

i allready had a pc its just it wasent worth fixing and i wasent gonna sell a broken piece of shit to someone for full price

[abstract hawk]

So the repair cost you more than a grand??

Im confused

[pure karma]

i just started from scratch and built a new one

but because i only had 800$ at the time i wasent gonna build a worst pc than i allready owned

[abstract hawk]

Right, so my point about going into debt to buy a computer still stands

If your old pc was already better than an 800$ build, was it really worth building one for 2000?

[pure karma]

well yea

a rainbow shitshow of corupted vram isent exactly hard to beat

[abstract hawk]

So buy a new gpu or get the warranty to replace it

Replacing the whole pc sounds insane

[pure karma]

new GPU = new psu new psu= new case new case= new motherboard new motherboard = new cpu and then you realise its not worth fixing a dam thing

[abstract hawk]

New gpu =! Upgrade gpu 😐

[pure karma]

well i did achieve that all it took was 3600$ and 2 months

so i guess i just took the long way around

[abstract hawk]

Plus you can get upgraded gpu without all this unnecessary bs

I upgraded nothing but my gpu from a 790 to a 1650

For 250

That’s all it cost

[pure karma]

going from a 1660 super to anything else 6pin whit sub 150W power draw would have been a pointless standstill anyway

[abstract hawk]

.

[pure karma]

honestly had more fun downgrading than i did upgrading

trying to make modern games run on crap parts is honestly a significantly better way to learn stuff...

[sharp oasis]

Hmm. Seems like somone was paid off

[sharp oasis]

What's wrong with your gpu now

It's a 4070

It's good

[pure karma]

oh the 4070TI is fine

[sharp oasis]

Brother if I can oc a 6700XT to beat a 7700XT

[pure karma]

everything else is insuficient however

[sharp oasis]

What's wrong with everything else

Have you tried a contact frame

And why a new psu?

Yours works

[jagged snow]

Userbenchmark moment

[sharp oasis]

Absolutely

[sharp oasis]

Oh I didn't tell you yet

I got 2915mhz stable on my 6700XT

Needed to change the VF curve

[jagged snow]

Oh sick

[sharp oasis]

It runs a bit cooler at max power

But still high

Reapplied ptm so at 277w I get 85c avg and 101c hotspot

[languid gulch]

wow

my 6800XT stock peaks at 275W

[sharp oasis]

Cooler is holding up well rn

I did have to remove some of the case fan silent mode

[languid gulch]

🤣 well yea

[sharp oasis]

To help heep the gpu from choking itself out lol

I now have two bioses I can use

Silent and oc extreme

[languid gulch]

silent & screaming

[sharp oasis]

Basically

I get 16-20fps more in rt heavy games

With absurd core clock

Vs stock

[languid gulch]

i wonder what i could squeeze outta mine

2365MHz right now

[sharp oasis]

As RDNA2/3 rt pref is scaling with core clock more the cu count I've seen

[pure karma]

Nothings Wrong whit everything else other than the fact I need MORE POWA

for my shenanigans of cours

[languid gulch]

my cpu is almost definitely the bottleneck tho, so idk how much benefit i'd get

[sharp oasis]

Beamng?

[pure karma]

ye

[sharp oasis]

How the hell

Do you get less pref then a 5800X

My 5800x handles that fine lmfao

[pure karma]

well i have my game hooked up to 17 respirators to keep the dang thing alive

[sharp oasis]

For your cpu right

Have you tried

Two things PTM7950

And a contact frame

That will make a world of difference in cooling

Trust me bud I use PTM on my gpu

And I was able to push it well beyond it's actual limit

[pure karma]

no but i turned off the Igpu and got rid of 80W of useless extra temperature

[sharp oasis]

Try some ptm and a conctact frame

Might make a difference

Actually it will lol

[pure karma]

well then im still maxed out on ram so not much gain there

[jagged snow]

1. Igpu is nowhere near that power hungry
2. Why would it be running at full load anyways

[sharp oasis]

That doesn't matter

Wait what?

How

Debloat you system jeeZ

Or reduce what your workload is

As in all my time of playing games on 32gb

[pure karma]

i mean a 12GB idle whit windows only is average

[sharp oasis]

I've never even come over hafl

[sharp oasis]

No absolutely not

I idle like 6-8gb

Sometimes 10 if in busy doing light work

[pure karma]

then did you just uninstall every windows service???

[sharp oasis]

No

I just have a normal windows install

Win 11

If I wanted to hyper optimize my ram it would be around 2gb

[pure karma]

it idled 12Gb on a empty copy of win 11 and on my curent copy it idles like 12-18GB

[sharp oasis]

Bruh

That's actually insane

[pure karma]

truly a ddr5 ram moment

[sharp oasis]

Nah that sounds like something wrong

[pure karma]

well to be fair firefox is inflating that a significant bit but still

[sharp oasis]

Like fully idle nothing open

And I mean absolutely nothing open

[pure karma]

12Gb whit nothing like up to 16-18 whit just background stuff

no games running nothing

[sharp oasis]

Bruhhhhhhhh

Yeah something seems up

Try like fully wiping windows and reinstalling

[pure karma]

dam you firefox lol

[sharp oasis]

How much ram is beamng jsing

As 32gb is technically iirc the bare minimum they ask for

[pure karma]

17.3GB in the clip i sent

[sharp oasis]

Brugh

Seems typical ig

I guess get a 48/64gb kit

Or a 96 if you are going all out

[languid gulch]

i had fun learning why it's a bad idea to mix ram capacities

[sharp oasis]

No

There are 24gb dimms now

[pure karma]

i mean you can literally see it in the clip when i opened task manager

[sharp oasis]

Too low res

I'm on a phone bud

[pure karma]

well it says 17,354.4....

[sharp oasis]

But yeah

I suggest a ram upgrade

Start there

And a contact frame and PTM7950 for your cpu

[pure karma]

but then that would afect there ever so sensitive neighbor the cpu

[sharp oasis]

And what's that

What would be effected

[pure karma]

dosent having more ram slaughther your cpu stability

[sharp oasis]

It's a ram capacity upgrade and a better TIM and mounting system

[sharp oasis]

Not to an extent

[pure karma]

im allready over the rated speed by 800MT/S

[sharp oasis]

Most Intel CPUs can do 7200

[pure karma]

whit 64 or even 128GB thats unstable hell

[sharp oasis]

With relative ewase

Just drop some ram speed

Or work on tuning it

Also don't do more then 1DPC

[pure karma]

well we prooved that for atleast my case thats wrong a while back

in fact its only stable and even then still whit micro stuters at 4800MHZ ram speed

[languid gulch]

lol

[sharp oasis]

I sense an issue somewhere else

As my Vermeer system. Lower specced.

Somehow has never had issues

[pure karma]

maby motherboard?

[sharp oasis]

Once

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if so its gonna be a pain

[sharp oasis]

Ehh

Could be issues with tim

And heat in certain areas

[languid gulch]

windows listed my 1700X/1660 VR ready 5 years ago

[sharp oasis]

My 5800X and 6700XT are prolly vr ready

[sand saddle]

Too many sticks does

[pure karma]

or it could have been doing the entire break in at 17 quintillion degrees

[sand saddle]

You got an up to date bios version?

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yup

did that 3000 run hours ago now

been making sure i get my moneys worth while it still works

[sand saddle]

I’d just try enabling xmp and setting the speed lower manually

Until it’s stable

[pure karma]

i doubt i can go lower than 4800MHZ

well MT/s but yea

[rustic panther]

Didn't your house's power delivery suck to the point it destroyed a previous PC?

And didn't your PSU short itself if you bent a cable wrong?

[sand saddle]

Ah, classic MagicZ

[tough owl]

I think bro needs a prebuilt with a warranty

[pure karma]

that yes power delivery no

[pure karma]

well it expired just like everything else i own

[tough owl]

Seems to be one common denominator

[pure karma]

its likely to have been hit whit the good old aluminum corrosion slap of shame

[rustic panther]

And you fixed that immediately by calling in your warranty, right

[pure karma]

aluminum stays cold components dont so humidity forms and breaks crap

[pure karma]

dident have one so i dident

the only thing that came whit a warranty was the 4070TI and when i claimed it it said invalid warranty so theres that

[rustic panther]

Any good PSU has at least a 5 year warranty, hell, 10 is more normal as well

So either you bought crap, secondhand or you're wrong

[pure karma]

unless 13 warren yard means 13 year warranty then no it does in fact not have one...

[rustic panther]

Okay, so you did the next best thing and got another PSU, right

[pure karma]

not yet no?

like i said im atleast trying to get my moneys worth out of it

[rustic panther]

I mean, driving a motorcycle on the highway in only a tshirt and jeans will also go right until it doesn't

[pure karma]

i have a whole other nuclear bomb im trying to deal whit right now

[rustic panther]

Which is?

[pure karma]

this ticking time bomb

this lithium ticking time bomb to be exact

[rustic panther]

Replace the battery then

[pure karma]

we allready went over the whole predicament earlier ➡ #off-topic-tech message

[rustic panther]

Ah, you were already told to stop using it

Good, then I don't need to state the bleedingly obvious and can return to stating the bleedingly obvious

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which im not able to follow because i have a mandatory government test on the 7th of may

i i refuse to belive they would let me take it on this pc

[rustic panther]

You mean the one that you should not use because it's got faulty power stuff, or the one that you should not use because it's got faulty power stuff?

Unless that one died already and you're on your third PC in a year, which from what I think is happening is dying from faulty power stuff

[pure karma]

cant forget about the one that has corupted vram..... and probably some faulty power stuff. yea

3/4 on broken pc's now

[rustic panther]

In a year?

[pure karma]

yea i guess

plus a ipad and a switch thats going out

so basically everything i own is failling at once

[jagged snow]

I've completely given up on helping this kid with tech stuff because he refuses to listen to advice and only wants help after he breaks something

[rustic panther]

I have had a PSU fail on me once in my life

[jagged snow]

Not to mention the fact that he spent months making up or creating problems for us to solve just for laughs

[rustic panther]

No I know

I'm just impressed at this point that he managed to fuck up 2 more PCs while I wasn't looking

[jagged snow]

I'm yet to experience a dead pau

[pure karma]

whitout touching them even just by simply being close to them

[rustic panther]

Yeah, it was just a random death 6 years in for my one, replaced it, no more issues other than some frazzled nerves

Only other issues I've had were with 4 ram sticks being unstable and dell, and the latter was more because 16gb of ram is insufficient for software development and not because the hardware was broken

[pure karma]

realistically how long until i break the spare pc of the spare pc of the spare pc

[jagged snow]

Not long

[rustic panther]

I'd stop buying new computers and start paying an electrician

Or start treating your expensive electronics better

[jagged snow]

Especially if you're not even paying for them yourself

[pure karma]

this one was a good investment $3500 to hold up to 8 years of my tomfoolery whitout being cleaned once is hella impresive

[rustic panther]

Oh yeah that's even worse

[pure karma]

i payed back $2400 of it in 8 months whitout a job give me a break

[rustic panther]

But yeah given all that you've been having it's seriously a small miracle you didn't start an electrical fire somewhere

[jagged snow]

Until you pay back all of it, someone else has still paid for part of it

[jagged snow]

And also dropping 3k on a PC while unemployed is not something to brag about

[pure karma]

yea 3500 + 2900 + 3600 = bankrupcy

[rustic panther]

Bloody hell, that's 10k in total

I haven't even spent half of that on gaming for my entire life, I'm sure of it

[jagged snow]

I haven't either

[rustic panther]

Also counting shit my parents bought me

And I have a lot of purchases made

[pure karma]

Is 10K over 12 years really THAT bad?

[rustic panther]

Again, I'm talking less than that over 28 years

And that's including consoles and including games