#off-topic-tech

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willow pike
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oh you're THAT kind of 3D modeller

flat steppe
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i work for video game companies making maps

edgy hazel
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Communism

jagged snow
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ikr
You ever seen how much a fursuit costs?

jagged snow
tough owl
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I’ll send you my bank account number and my routing number

willow pike
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I would recommend a latest generation threadripper with fewer cores

tough owl
flat steppe
tough owl
jagged snow
willow pike
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purely for the PCIe lanes to handle multiple 4090s

jagged snow
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@flat steppe do you want to do rendering on the gpu or cpu primarily?

tough owl
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Rendering isn’t bound to the cpu in blender iirc

willow pike
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though regular Ryzen might also have enough

flat steppe
tough owl
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just loading stuff up for the gpus to use

jagged snow
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Then cpu isn't as important

jagged snow
willow pike
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I know because I have done fluid simulation in blender

tough owl
flat steppe
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btw all this build is for playing minecraft /j

jagged snow
willow pike
jagged snow
flat steppe
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btw my current pc specs are a 4080, i9 12900 64 gb of ram

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if you wondered

willow pike
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@flat steppe but yeah if you don't render on cpu, you won't need 64 cores; I know a guy who got 4 quadros on an 8 core cpu

flat steppe
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honestly the main part is texture rendering so thats why i went with a 4090

jagged snow
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Seems like the sweet spot might be a 7955WX

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if you're about to drop that much money on dual 4090s anyways

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If you want to go cheaper there are options

flat steppe
willow pike
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no need to my dude

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I wanna get into that career too and I'll probably have to suspend my dignity for cash

flat steppe
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its worth

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so worth

willow pike
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and if I do nobody will ever know

jagged snow
flat steppe
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got it

willow pike
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yeah that should be plenty of CPU for you

tough owl
willow pike
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not that much

tough owl
willow pike
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would rather wear that shirt than "to make furry ||censored||"

dire igloo
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I hacked the government and all I got was this lousy T-shirt

jagged snow
soft bloom
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what to know when selling pc with most parts being used?

dire igloo
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You should know that I hate flippers.

That said, name all the parts in the listing (specific models!!!), insist on meeting in person (so both of you know you're selling a working PC), maybe provide 3dmark results

rotund hamlet
edgy hazel
jagged snow
stray badger
dire igloo
# jagged snow Why?

Because I've had to rely on good deals from the used tech market many times in my life.
Flippers take those away from the people who need them for the sake of turning a profit

jagged snow
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Oh, you mean that kind of flipper

jagged snow
soft bloom
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which in part makes me sell gpu for about a quarter of its price cause... M-word

dire igloo
jagged snow
dire igloo
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That's a difference

jagged snow
dire igloo
dire igloo
jagged snow
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They might be doing it as a side hustle 🤷‍♂️

twin dew
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Still doesn't make product flipping good for anyone.

dire igloo
twin dew
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That the one doing the flipping gets money isn't a good reason.

jagged snow
dire igloo
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You're better off finding a simple job as a waiter or smth than to rely on tech flipping

soft bloom
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there's a big difference between just lowballing and reselling as is increasing price by false marketing
and taking what was used and adding something worth the extra cost

twin dew
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But is just artifact of the current system.

jagged snow
soft bloom
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i'm trying to make a worthy build from what for me is mostly junk
yet, i used every single part of it at some point and i know its decent

dire igloo
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I despise flippers for it.
There is no good justification for it and they deplete the used market of good deals

twin dew
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Just another kind of scalper.

jagged snow
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In my opinion, somewhat more benign

dire igloo
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Nah, same shit.
Buy parts at low prices to deplete the market, then sell them at higher prices

jagged snow
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Although I don't like the idea of that sort of flipping, there are some cases where it's more or less fine
People that buy broken tech then fix & flip are doing everyone a favor

twin dew
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And the ones not telling it was repaired?

dire igloo
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Yes. That is fine

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But those aren't the PC flippers I'm talking about

twin dew
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And in some cases doing bare minimum to get it to seem to work for few months?

jagged snow
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Just plain dishonest

soft bloom
jagged snow
dire igloo
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I got 70€ for my broken GTX 780 HOF in late 2017 early 2018.

Dude I sold it to said he'd put it in an oven and if it doesn't work sell it to the next techy for the same price

dire igloo
twin dew
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From companies that would just scrap instead.

jagged snow
dire igloo
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Fair

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Didn't think they'd offer bulk discounts

soft bloom
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its funny how i am now more inclined into selling my old build and gpu separately, is it feels more honest. but damn i liked that build...

jagged snow
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Mostly because the market for somebody that wants to remove, test and resell 250 1080s is not very large 🤣

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And that's the kind of flipping that I tend to be more supportive of

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Man, you know what's actually looking like a great deal for a budget gamer right now?
Used series x

soft bloom
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ok, i need a second opinion:
which card would sell better - rx 570 or rx 5700xt ?

soft bloom
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In prebuilt and solo

jagged snow
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5700xt in both cases

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570 will sell better standalone than in a full build

soft bloom
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i wonder why so for the rx570

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also, its 4gb

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that card mined me ravencoin and i sold it BEFORE it went up... no luck

jagged snow
soft bloom
jagged snow
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Then they'd just buy something with an igpu

twin dew
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Or much lower power and price dGPU to add.

wanton orchid
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can it be worth selling a gtx 1080 ti now ? I thought maybe gn video drived demand for 2nd hand market

rotund hamlet
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if you have something better, almost certainly

wanton orchid
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and I'm not really using my 2nd gtx 1080 ti

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also as steve said its well picked model
I have the well known evga ftw3 version

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the worst part of which is tendency to have some coilwhine

pure karma
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i mean i dont see why not unless you need a spare or something

minor pawn
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So i toke out an ssd 2ish weeks ago from my laptop. Will it still have the stuff on it or will i need to redownload the things that were on it?

pure karma
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it should unless you killed it lol

tough owl
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yea

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it all still should be there

pure karma
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they keep data for like a year or something when not suplied whit power right?

soft bloom
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i launched this build with just cpu 7 cpu fan. 2 ssds and psu. its so damn silent

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i'm used to "silent" fans that are just loud, haha

pure karma
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pretty sure mine idles at a good 45-50DB

soft bloom
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tough owl
pure karma
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at the end of the day its still a potatoe compared to the newer portables

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20fps at 4K yea no

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its a good improvement considering myn gets 20fps at 1080P but its still nothing crazy

edgy hazel
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Did people here already talk about the SSL bypass for the WiiU, which the community kept hidden for like almost 3 years?

vast tundra
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Yo so I get a 4060 new or a 3080

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Used

tough owl
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3080 has more vram

vast tundra
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Ya

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Will it last longer tho

willow pike
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the extra ram will help it cope with newer games over time

vast tundra
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Ya but is it worth the extra $100

pure karma
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the thing whit Vram is its very hit or miss

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at the end of the day if you dont mind the ocasional rainbow texture here and there vram is worst than raw performance

grim panther
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if you have to pay the electricity bill, go for the 4060

pure karma
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really the 4060 only draws 115W?

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its the same as my 1660 super lol

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dang the 3080 draws 350W????

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wow

vast tundra
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Yep lol

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That bill is gunna be high

pure karma
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thats less efficient that my 4070ti im prettysure

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i think that peaks at like just under 350W but thats whit the factory OC

tough owl
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anyone want .net 2.0 for windows 9.x

sand saddle
sand saddle
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3080 used could be worth it

soft bloom
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I got scared that i messed up one of the ram chips suing strong magnet to unscrew mb from old case when second ps showed only 14g of ram. Than i remmebered that vega reserves 2g for itself

twin dew
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That is tuneable.
Default is 1/8th of RAM or 2GB, whichever is smaller.

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So that 16GB of RAM is the crossover point where it shouldn't reserve more automatically.
But minimum is just 64MB.

rustic panther
sand saddle
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Well, yeah

rustic panther
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I haven't checked the gpu market because I own a 3080 though

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So I dunno if the 4060 is a lemon

jagged snow
jagged snow
rustic panther
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Heck, the 3080 is a good card

jagged snow
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Worse than 20 series IMO

dire igloo
rustic panther
dire igloo
rustic panther
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And from what I hear it does

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So get the 3080 IMO

dire igloo
sand saddle
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The A770 is cheaper, has more vram and performance than a 4060, or A750 for just cheaper.
The 4060Ti is a 370-400 card with 8GB of vram
The 4060Ti 16GB can make sense when you don't need performance, but apparently need vram, which is almost never, competes with A770 for $100 extra.
4070 at least has some vram for the price.

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Like nvidia has its uses, but usually it comes down to productivity, where people need more performance and/or vram than the 4060(Ti) offers anyways

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So I personally can't recommend anything under a 4070 as a brand new nvidia choice.

soft bloom
grim panther
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Well, you just have to cut your golden fingernails to pay it. Other people maybe simply can't afford a 4070.

twin dew
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Or the whole IGP can be disabled and then takes no RAM or power.

soft bloom
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But will i stall dedicated gpu anyway and, disable igpu, and enable fastboot

rustic panther
grim panther
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At which resolution do you want to play @vast tundra

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how many screens?

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which cpu?

willow pike
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unfortunately gpus aren't affordable right now

soft bloom
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My chinese nvme ssd somehow performce significatnly better on linux, but causes system stutters when used as system drive. A mystery

twin dew
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My RDNA2 IGP is currently using 171MB of VRAM, with 2x 1920x1080@60Hz monitors connected to it with Discord in browser on both, with HW acceleration enabled.
And worked fine with just 64MB allocation, currently have it at 512MB.

sand saddle
dire igloo
sand saddle
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Not always ofc

soft bloom
dire igloo
rustic panther
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It is what it is sometimes

twin dew
soft bloom
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Or is it some trick when you pass everything through igpu, and so dgou kicks in only for heavy load?

twin dew
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The IGP is just more display outputs.

grim panther
twin dew
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And yes, that does exist in Windows by default.

soft bloom
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Oh, understood. But how did you connected monitors to mb?

twin dew
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To use IGP for outputs and easy stuff for power savings and dGPU for 3D etc.

sand saddle
twin dew
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Settings\System\Display\Graphics to tune that behavior.

soft bloom
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Also because my latest dgou has 6 outputs... Idk who wiuld need so much, but it is what it is

twin dew
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Mostly GPUs currently are either 1 HDMI and 3 DP, or 2 HDMI and 2 DP...
Even when the AMD ones could support 6.

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Too bad that the 6x mDP cards are mostly gone away

twin dew
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Just specialist cards with that now.

dire igloo
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Didn't gigabyte have a card once where you had three HDMI and three dp but they were paired and you could only use one per pair?

twin dew
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Nvidia card?
As AMD never had more than 2 HDMI transmitters in the chip itself.
And AMD had 6 outputs total, Nvidia only 4.

dire igloo
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It was three outputs total, but each could be used HDMI or DP

twin dew
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DP++ is still a thing.
Physical DP port wired for both DP and HDMI, for use with passive adapter.

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Almost all AMD DP ports were like that for a long time, but only 2 HDMI/DVI were actually supported at same time, as there were only two TDMS clock generators available to be assigned.
Later gens changed so that if you had multiple monitors with exact same settings, they would only count as one with shared clock generator.

soft bloom
twin dew
soft bloom
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shit, i should have checked before writing

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3 + 3

twin dew
soft bloom
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but you can acutally connect 6 monitors

twin dew
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So if the card maker just included one functional passive adapter, then there would be no need for physical HDMI ports IMHO.

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Functional adapter needs short cord between the connectors.
The solid block types are unusable...

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With DVI the solid block ones still worked as they actually screwed in and the card side connector was supported by the backplate, not the PCB.

soft bloom
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i truly wonder if i would go into explaining why i put additional radiators on the backplate of gpu (where memory chips are)

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*when selling it as used part

visual tree
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The power of AI

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jagged snow
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That's not ai, probabtly traditionall tree-logic chatbot

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Wow, that came across poorly

visual tree
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That explains the answer lol

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I would like to call this one the "Schadenfreude bot"

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Btw, the hidden words are spectrum technical support. Not sure why someone would hide that

pure karma
soft bloom
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Id it ok to have 500w psu with 225w gpu?
Details:
Deepcool dn500
System has 1 nvme drive and one sata3 ssd
Cpu is ryzen 2200g (65w tdp)
Plus 4 fans, including cpu fan
I dont remember problems eith power before, and right now its alright

jagged snow
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You're fine then

ashen light
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500W is probably the lowest I would comfortably put in that system, given GPUs can sometimes temporarily pull more than what they claim and each time they do that it puts stress on the PSU.
It will work but if you consistently pull above 90% of the the PSU's rated power, it will wear out quickly and you can expect it to fail the day after the warranty expires. PSUs generally run at peak efficiency somewhere between 50% and 65% of capacity and they can usually cope with very short spikes of very high power draw (like double the watts for less than 0.1sec) so if the systems boots up it's probably fine. If the system instantly shuts off with no warning, it probably means there's a power issue in the PSU or in the motherboard's VRMs and this kind of wearing out takes at least a couple years to begin causing problems.

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Your CPU and GPU alone are pulling 290W, fans and stuff probably another 20-40W, ssd/hdd i would say prob max 15W each then any USB stuff can vary wildly. I would say 600W is the right size PSU. 750W if there's a discount.

jagged snow
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The problem is that a lower rated PSU can't experience as much of a loss in capacity before it begins to become an issue

ashen light
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Any PSU consistently and continuously forced to provide 90%+ of it's rated power for long duration will suffer.
Well designed PSU with cheap parts will suffer sooner.

jagged snow
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That's not really true

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And 90% is a lot higher than what we're talking about here

gilded helm
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Any PSU will have info on how it handles power spikes. Weren't we digging into someone's EVGA PSU specs here and we saw a 750W unit had information about handling spikes up to 1200W? A 500W PSU and a 225W GPU could be fine, depending on the CPU and peripherals.

jagged snow
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Yup

gilded helm
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If you're not going ham with peripherals that could probably do a 7800X3D with a decent GPU.

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But deals on quality 750W PSUs are common enough that you may as well get the headroom.

pure karma
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yea getting headroom is smart i made a L move cheaping out and only getting 850w

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seeing how im ussing about like 700-750w at peak

soft bloom
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tbh, i don't even know when that gpu would draw 200W, cause the i highest i have seen was 170W
(and i know it can do well at 120W)

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but yes, certainly not a system for overclocking

pure karma
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probably staying lower because the vram isent being hit

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the wattage on my 4070TI doubles from vram alone

soft bloom
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surprisingly quiet.
i have long ago made choice that noise is not an issue but i am surprised how silent this particular build is if i close my eyes at 92C vram temperature

pure karma
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well yea its gonna be silent if your just banging the tj-maxes

soft bloom
soft bloom
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with AMD adrenalin's undervolting

pure karma
soft bloom
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i always make sure to use best texttures fittable into vram budget cause they seem quite a cheap improvement

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illumination seems to be the real load these days

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glad to see ue5 games that use lumen

pure karma
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my pc is anything but silent

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hell it sounds like a wind tunnel

soft bloom
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(fyi i'm talking about talos principle 2; greeny can be cool)

pure karma
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yea that game is lit

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other than the fact i only get 50fps haha

soft bloom
soft bloom
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(some locations are poorly optimized - i can rotate around certain location and get FPS from 60 to 15)

pure karma
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i honestly want to get a decible meter thingy just to know truly how loud my computer is

soft bloom
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there are apps for smartphones

pure karma
soft bloom
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you probably shouldn't trust specific readings, but at least you can compare them more objectively

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oh, dam. i forgot to userbenchmark that build

soft bloom
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also, my pc probably moves tons of air - heats the room pretty quick

pure karma
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and it still bang the tj-max like its just not there 😂

soft bloom
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i can't say for sure... but i feel better with them 🙂

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just cheap cnc ones. put them on the backplate where i know memory chips are

pure karma
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i couldent be bothered to try and get a heatsink+aio setup on this thing honestly

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under gaming load it tops out at like 80C which honestly is reasonable ish

soft bloom
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but also, real thing - reducing power budget. you can play a little with it, to have only torelable reduciton in performance. but it might be enough to let cooling achieve lower equilibrium

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80 is fine

pure karma
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at 20C room temp whit 13 fans 80C is ehhh....

soft bloom
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13?!?!?!?!

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dude, i have 4 case fans

pure karma
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well i have 10 in right now but i could fit 13 if i tried to double the rad

soft bloom
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3 on the GPU itself (no water), and 1 cpu fan

pure karma
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i have 13 counting the gpu fans

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i guess its part of the reasson why its so loud lol

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having it be that loud when its using fans that top at at like 2K rpm is impresive lol

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if i had to give a guess on some numbers id give it a like 45db idle and like 65-70db peak

jagged snow
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Then your fan curves are absolutely wack

pure karma
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i mean i guess

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the rad is on a fairly agresive curve

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because its so bad at its job

tough owl
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youre the one who bought it hehe

jagged snow
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Against our advice, might I remind you

pure karma
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your advice was the LS720

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golden also said the ls720

tough owl
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"golden" shows ss of fireworker

pure karma
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couldn't find the one of golden but i know one thing and that is that it had no warranty

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sharp oasis
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We also

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Advised you to RMA it when it was faulty

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Buuut here we are

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I think i don't even have to cite the number of times I told you to RMA it

jagged snow
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We all specifically recommended against it, if memory serves

pure karma
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at the start there was mention of air cooling but by the end it was prettymuch either a block whit a loop or a rad

jagged snow
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I never recommended waterr cooling

jagged snow
pure karma
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why would a air cooler help whit anything if the problem that ended up blamed also by you guys was surface contact

jagged snow
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Afaik we never knew what the issue was because you didn't want to investigate or RMA your aio

pure karma
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what am i suppose to investigate

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i told you the pump screetches on startup and the fan bearings are shot

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it dosent get much simpler than that

jagged snow
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THEN RMA THE COOLER

pure karma
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to get another broken one?

jagged snow
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No, to get one that works

pure karma
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thats asking a lot from deepcool

jagged snow
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They're obviously not all that way otherwise every fool that fancies himself a builder would be in the same boat you are

tough owl
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me reading the chat

gilded helm
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I'm finally going to get a level 2 charger. If it's UL listed it should be fine? The Chevy one is hilariously expensive.

languid gulch
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ngl idk if i'd trust one that cheap

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& yes i've been looking lately 🤣

gilded helm
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Honestly, it's more suspicious to me that these things aren't cheaper by now. It's just a bunch of copper and some connectors. tired_jace

languid gulch
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some have garbage software even if the guts are ok

gilded helm
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If the software doesn't work that should be a one time check, and then return if not?

languid gulch
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maybe

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been seeing some reviews that are of the "it worked fine for 3 months, then the software broke" variety

gilded helm
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Mine won't be net connected

languid gulch
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i'll be looking more into this one for sure tho

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that price definitely got my attention

gilded helm
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Though I guess Chevy could update something on the car's end that could cause software stupidity. Which unfortunately is a real consideration.

languid gulch
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yea, i'd love a soft firewall in cars where you can link it to a phone, but the car can't install updates that way

gilded helm
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Though I'm on the fence about even buying a level 2 charger at all. I just don't need it.

languid gulch
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& yea, the GM one that's like $1600 is just plain stupid

gilded helm
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Or when I do, I have grocery stores that'll juice me for free

abstract hawk
languid gulch
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oh after i tried out the 120v, i'm definitely investing in a dedicated 240v/50A

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i'd rather have the shorter time plugged in than have it constantly sucking 1300W from the wall

gilded helm
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How many miles are you getting per kilowatt? I'm never getting under 3 even when blasting heat and sitting idle for decent chunks of time.

languid gulch
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same, 3.2 so far

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only had it 2 weeks tho

gilded helm
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I still plan to sell my Bolt next year and get the $7500 incentive again if it still exists. So part of me wonders whether not selling it with a L2 charger would be a problem.

languid gulch
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not having an engine sucking down way more power than a radio & A/C needs while idling really makes a difference

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mine came with the stock L1/L2 charger

gilded helm
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On the other hand, maybe by this time next year, there will be cheap J1772 chargers on clearance, due to the shift to NACS

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I got the Fleet Edition 1LT Bolt, which strips out literally everything.

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No $75 cargo net or any of that

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But also no dual level charger

languid gulch
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i'm probably going to grab a tesla-to-J1772 adapter so i can use supercharging stations

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what year did you get?

gilded helm
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2023

languid gulch
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huh. i think i got the same thing

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Hertz?

gilded helm
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New from a Chevy dealer

languid gulch
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oh nice

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i grabbed one of the Hertz ones. 8k miles on it

gilded helm
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On Jan 1st, the very first day you could get the Federal incentive up front.

languid gulch
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any weird things i should watch out for besides the absolutely horrific blind spot?

gilded helm
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The software is terrible, I still have no idea whether I've properly set it to never charge outside off-peak hours.

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The software feels especially terrible having experienced a Tesla for 3 years

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But fundamentally, I'm quite happy with it.

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So much so that I won't hesitate to look at the 2025 Bolt next year. Or maybe if they're doing another loyalty discount, who knows?

languid gulch
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this is my first personal vehicle with a screen, so i have no idea what's not crap as a driver 🤣

gilded helm
languid gulch
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i went with the bolt because of how cheap it was, the new equinoxes are $42k+

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ah. "if you lease or finance at a special rate through GM Finance."

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so giant middle finger either way

gilded helm
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The 2018 Model X implemented its touchscreen very well, because it still had stalks for core car functions. I can't say the same for newer Teslas, of course. I don't interact with the Bolt touchscreen much, which is exactly how I want it. Android Auto connects when I get in, music starts playing, and that's it.

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Android Auto can be a little buggy. But it's fine. It's more stable than Ingress 😛

languid gulch
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yea, i liked the reviews of the bolt because they were saying things like "this is a car you want if you don't want people looking at you for having an electric car" "there's buttons instead of a touchscreen for everything"

gilded helm
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And if the 2025 Bolt changes that, I'm out

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Because yeah, there are so many stupid design trends in EVs, and new cars in general

languid gulch
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iirc GM nuked android auto & iphone connectivity

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yup

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"in December of 2023 GM announced it would be stepping away from Apple CarPlay and Android Auto with its electric vehicles and phase these connectivity apps out in ICE vehicles as well."

gilded helm
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Yep, 2025 Bolt won't have those. Maybe they'll do software well, but probably not, based on the Blazer and Equinox.

languid gulch
#

dogshit afterthought software from now on!

jagged snow
#

Y'know what new gm vehicle is an interesting prospect even if it's not something I'd buy? The new silverado ev

languid gulch
#

i wouldn't bite because it's a pickup

jagged snow
#

A big pickup becomes a lot more appealing in terms of lifetime cost when it's electric

languid gulch
#

eh. then you got people asking to use you for your truck, & i don't like that

gilded helm
#

I know people with the Rivians who love them.

jagged snow
#

But really, people that need a pickup still aren't super well served by the current electric market

languid gulch
#

true

jagged snow
#

But for 80% of pickup drivers that just use them as a pavement princess, they'd be more than enough

languid gulch
#

in which case i'd rather have an electric van

gilded helm
#

It's always hard to tell how much of that is sunk cost mentality of course. But even if you're only getting 1 mile per kw because you're carrying weight in the bed, if you're driving hundreds of miles per week, that beats the hell out of gas quickly.

jagged snow
#

Yup
Even as a work vehicle vans have a lot of advantages over pickups

#

Really the only time you need a truck is hauling stuff that's too large or too dirty to fit in a van, or towing

#

Even then that only really matters for gooseneck towing, bumper tow is fine from a van until you get heavy

gilded helm
#

Pickup design trends are kinda funny these days, because a lot of pickup buyers just like the truck guy image, when really they'd be better off buying something like a Suburban or Express. Truck beds on these 4 doors are small enough these days that you're basically buying a Suburban with half the roof missing.

jagged snow
#

More or less

#

The new silverado ev also reverses that trend

#

5ft bed stock, but the rear wall actually comes out and gives you a 10ft cargo platform

jagged snow
#

The new truck market really does just cater to the "truck guy" crowd

gilded helm
#

I'm still waiting to run into the Cybertruck owner at the gym.

#

I haven't been able to get any gossip on their experience with it

languid gulch
#

i'm still waiting for the rightful successor to the Astro

jagged snow
#

I want a small streamliner ev that costs 25k new

#

A spiritual sucessor to the geo metro

languid gulch
#

🤣

#

with all the new safety standards a car that size would be a single seater

jagged snow
#

Yeah that's true hehe

#

Two seats in single file

gilded helm
#

Yeah, the blind spots by the huge pillars cars need to have these days are really annoying

jagged snow
#

I honestly feel like vehicle design peaked 20 years ago in terms of ergonomics and form

#

Smart enough to benefit from new technology but not overly complicated

languid gulch
#

i think that's why i hung onto my car for so long

gilded helm
#

And even though cars do better in crashes now, we're creating so many blind spots with these big pillars and trends toward large cars, that roads are less safe now IIRC?

languid gulch
#

way less safe for pedestrians

jagged snow
#

We're one of the only first world countries that is still trending higher on overall crashes and fatalities yearly

languid gulch
#

there's also a big discrepancy in safety in a wreck between cars from the last 10ish years & cars that are 10-20 years old

gilded helm
#

Yeah, unfortunately there's basically zero effort to make drivers better.

languid gulch
#

0

#

actually they're making drivers worse

#

my high school had free driving school

#

had

gilded helm
#

And unfortunately, I've seen some pathetic arguments about how gatekeeping driving just hurts disenfranchised/impoverished people the most. Which is all well and good anywhere that the safety of other humans isn't at stake...

languid gulch
#

oh if mass transit wasn't absolutely worthless around here i wouldn't have a car

jagged snow
#

I'd definitely still own a car even if there were good mass transit

#

I'm very often doing things that just wouldn't be served by public transit

gilded helm
#

Even in cities in the USA that try really hard at mass transit, unless you can orient your life perfectly, owning a car still saves you huge amounts of time.

jagged snow
languid gulch
#

true, & i guess i should clarify i probably wouldn't own a personal vehicle, but likely still have a company car

gilded helm
#

Uber wanted to make owning cars obsolete by being super cheap. But I'm currently paying $60 to park my car at the airport for 4 days, because that's cheaper than an Uber each way. And better.

#

The cost of on demand transport has gone up while the quality has gone down.

jagged snow
#

That's one of the biggest failings of public transit - bringing stuff with you

#

Even a grocery run is way more than is practical to take on a bus

languid gulch
#

yup

gilded helm
#

But Rideshare won by making enough people dependent on it.

languid gulch
#

also there are way too many assholes to deal with who don't know how to behave themselves in public

jagged snow
#

There is a sweet spot for both major inter-city transit and hyper local transit and neither of those get filled well

gilded helm
#

Isn't part of the reason we don't have good high speed rail is that fact that we're so bad at pedestrian safety?

languid gulch
#

not in the US

jagged snow
#

The biggest impediment to any sort of passenger rail in the US is freight rail

languid gulch
#

yup

gilded helm
#

Though that just reminds me of how we also fail to make good pedestrians in the USA, which is a terrible combination with our bad drivers.

languid gulch
#

US uses freight lines for passengers

jagged snow
#

Fright rail is incredibly efficient, but ti's being pretty badly mismanaged atm

jagged snow
languid gulch
#

the US is damn good at freight rail compared to the rest of the world

jagged snow
#

Yup

languid gulch
#

it competes directly with the panama canal

jagged snow
#

The real solution is separated high speed passenger networks that could maybe carry priority freight and then standard freight rail lines

languid gulch
#

yup

#

but i also want it to steal the Japanese "no intersections between HSR & streets" approach

jagged snow
#

Because you don't want to kill the fright industry by forcing them to pull into a siding for a passenger train every hour

jagged snow
#

Not the end of the world to just elevate the track a little and send cars under it though

#

Unless you implemented some incredibly foolproof systems you'd still have people trying to race the trains

soft bloom
#

End so when i relazed and was doing final benchmark to make sure i'm selling something that works... This

IMG_20240412_050846.jpg
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Ok, not final. I still need userbenchmark

#

I think windows broke

languid gulch
#

all i know is that i haven't had to fill up in 2 weeks & i love it

gilded helm
#

Anyone have experience with that sort of laptop stand?

soft bloom
#

so , ihave this weird chinese drive that surved me well. better under linux, but worse when as system drive on linux...
and if i run latest tomb rider benchmark on it it... becames unidentifiable 🙂
i thought maybe it overheats or something (because it is right on top of exhaust from the gpu), but putting heatsink didn't help (well, obviously, it could have make it worse)
not sure what to do. it's definitelyl better windows system drive than any sata3 ssd, but... this wont look good

gilded helm
languid gulch
#

feels even better than that

#

because you also don't need to go in for oil changes

gilded helm
#

When it comes to the charge time objection, I just point out that if they've ever detoured a single time to get gas, they've spent more time waiting than I have spent plugging in after getting out of my car and then going inside to do things I was going to do anyway, like sleep. 😛

languid gulch
#

i won't sleep with it just on the current plug i'm using, but once i get the dedicated line i probably won't have to sleep with it plugged in because it'll charge so fast

gilded helm
#

Mine charges on a 20amp circuit, so I've got plenty of overhead

languid gulch
#

i don't like leaving high-wattage stuff plugged in & running while i'm asleep

#

& yes i think that's one of my "old man" things

#

but also the electrical in this house has sometimes scared me

gilded helm
#

Fair

#

Uncertainty is all well and good for cheap or unknown stuff, as long as it isn't also a fire hazard.

languid gulch
#

yea the outlet i'm using is one that is in a weird enough place that idk if it's ever been used

#

i do love how they had to add into all the videos & paperwork associated with the charger just screams at you "DON'T USE AN EXTENSION CORD WITH THIS"

gilded helm
#

And I get it. Electricity is basically magic to a lot of people, and I'm sure a lot of people stubbornly ask 'why not' because they have no concept of the rate limit on their flimsy extension cord with 2 prong only outlets and a 3 prong adapter.

languid gulch
#

reminds me of when Dawid Does Tech Stuff intentionally overloaded some PCIe cables

pure karma
jagged snow
languid gulch
#

i'm not, people are dumbasses

jagged snow
#

I meet an electrician the other day that was trying to debate that a fuse needed to be in series

languid gulch
#

even professionals are stupid when it comes to electricity

languid gulch
#

but also people have no idea about so many things that could easily kill them

#

1L of petrol is the same as like 4 sticks of dynamite

pure karma
#

everything can kill you if you try hard enough

languid gulch
jagged snow
pure karma
#

one is a explosion one is a fire

languid gulch
#

energy yes

jagged snow
#

Just because it has that much energy doesn't mean that it can be released energetically

languid gulch
#

i know, time is the difference

jagged snow
#

Yup

languid gulch
#

time is usually the difference

airbag.gif
jagged snow
#

That's actually a really good demonstration

pure karma
languid gulch
#

we wouldn't need airbags if people would use 5 point harnesses

jagged snow
#

But you know people would just abstain from seatbelts entirely if that were the case

languid gulch
#

yup

#

part of me wants those kinds of darwin awards to come back

twin dew
jagged snow
#

I don't know about that

languid gulch
#

it's terrifying what i see people doing besides driving while sitting in the driver's seat

#

german cars were originally massive commercial failures in the US because they didn't have cupholders

jagged snow
#

They're also a massive pain to work on

languid gulch
#

yea but that didn't make them unpopular 🤣 not knowing the target audience was the main issue

#

i'm not even in a particularly wealthy part of the country & i see soooooooooo many beemers it's insane

wanton orchid
edgy hazel
pure karma
languid gulch
#

🤣

edgy hazel
#

I think it's the smartest choice

languid gulch
#

no, a terrible idea would be to do it twice

pure karma
#

or still use it actively hehe

edgy hazel
#

Don't knock it until you try it

pure karma
#

its actually so worn out that the red and white wires here are completely exposed

image.png
#

i have no clue how this cabble still works flawlessly

twin dew
#

Because as long as the copper doesn't touch something conductive, it doesn't matter?
All the layers on top are just to prevent that.

pure karma
#

well built cabble then because im like 4 layers deep now lol

languid gulch
#

so long as the voltage isn't high enough to start arcing & no contact takes place, should be fine

edgy hazel
#

Not like the apple cables carry any voltage anyway

soft bloom
cobalt ivy
#

i use old drives to support seedbox of desires. ive been eying some 4tb m.2's waiting for them to come down to replace them

soft bloom
cobalt ivy
#

aht country are you in?

#

1tb is kind of the new minimum 60 usd will get you a name brand drive and you're not flooded with drives that have weird names.

soft bloom
#

1tb is minimum for nvme?
hahahaha
i have no idea what would someone store there

mental oriole
rotund hamlet
#

Trust me, 1tb is the minimum

#

you run out pretty quick with large games and videos

cobalt ivy
#

i allocated 200gb just for windows 11 on my one of 2tb drives, only room left on the drive is for win updates.

tough owl
#

somehow I can get away with 512 and be happy

quasi citrus
tough owl
#

its not bad when you have a gigabit connection and dont play many games that are 100gigs+

winged valley
#

512 is easy to live with

#

i remember when all i had was 360gb (old intel ssd's had weird capacities)

tough owl
#

512 is super easy to live with, esp on linux where the entire os only takes like 8gigs of disk space leaving everything else for personal stuff

winged valley
#

Why even is windows so big? Even when you debloat it, its still bigger than unbuntu

tough owl
#

windows uses a swap file by default and thats pretty large

#

also has a hibernate file that ram flushes to

twin dew
#

Not related, but the decades of backwards compatibility etc. takes its toll.

#

And the Side-by-Side DLL versioning etc.

tough owl
#

yea

#

windows I dont think uses disk compression too

#

might be standard now but idk

twin dew
#

The swap and hibernate files aren't under the Windows directory, that can be 50+ GB

#

No, doesn't by default.
You can set it on for specific files or directories on NTFS drive.

tough owl
twin dew
#

Show up, but are at the root.

tough owl
#

theyre the ones in red from this screenshot yoinked from online

Windirstat.png
tough owl
twin dew
#

And show up large as the Windows directory is from clean install, not from used system.

#

So the swap and hybernate seem large in comparison.

#

Also the swap is much larger than common in that...

tough owl
#

thats a windows 7 system too

twin dew
#

For the default automatic setting.

tough owl
#

where installed ram wasnt that high on average

winged valley
#

There are ntfs compressed folders out of the box in system32 im pretty sure

#

I know I remember seeing it in 7

#

Also I might be going crazy but I swear I remember finding some raw x86 assembly files in win7

tough owl
#

this is my disk usage with compression enabled on my home folder

image.png
soft bloom
#

For how long userbenchmark wnat you to sign in before you can run it?

dire igloo
#

Doesn't matter, don't run it

#

Get 3DMark demo from steam

#

UBM is horrible garbage, avoid it at all means

jagged snow
#

It's not even a good stability test

dire igloo
#

OCCT for stability, 3DMark for comparative scoring

stray badger
#

Userbenchmark is comically dumb

soft bloom
#

About sizes
I have samsung nvme 512gb hosting linux under LVM
2 odl ssds 240gb each, differebt models are mirrored thru LVM and store backups (and maybe also #omething elese, I dont remember, been using them like that for years)
Decent 240gb ssd for win11 which i use not so often now
1tb toshibba hdd eith btfs partition for junk, shared with windows
And i have plenty of space for work on my ssd
I don't store games unless i am planning to olay the,m and unless its a tiny indingame that just ocasionaly brings me joy without requiring commitment from my part
And it feels quite good

soft bloom
twin dew
#

He said the Demo, there are the limited free versions available.

dire igloo
#

You get firestrike and timespy which is more than enough.
Maybe even some more

soft bloom
#

Ehy is the demo not appearing in search result?..

#

I wonder how long before steam fixes family view

twin dew
wanton orchid
#

note to everyone
if your cpu is burning for no reason
it may be Asus that is the culprit not the cpu

#

after buying a new cpu it started cooking as the old one was

#

fuck you again Asus

twin dew
#

Yeah, Asus (and other MB makers) often put OC things on by default.
The one I have to disable on X670 is "Medium Load BoostIt" which fucks up non-dual-CCD 7000:s

#

Asus specific one.

wanton orchid
#

the mb broke

#

at 1200mhz no V offset ram at 2133mhz
my cpu went from 20 to 85C in 25s

#

it then continue to go up 97C

#

pretty sure power stage broke badly

#

but instead of failing
it decided to frie my cpu(s)

dire igloo
soft bloom
#

bad display

dire igloo
#

no, lack of knowledge on how steam works

#

the demo isn't a separate product. It's the same project, just less features, a testrun

soft bloom
#

why do i have a memory of seen multiple demo listed as separate products?

tough owl
twin dew
#

For military electronics production.

#

US and EU have finally woken up to the fact that if that happens, they would currently be extremely screwed with only Intel having real capacity in western countries.

#

And porting stuff to them would take way too long in case of active war.

jagged snow
#

Yup

maiden coyote
#

Although.. most things if that nature don't use the most advanced chips

twin dew
#

But getting someone to invest in old new line will not happen.

#

And there are old lines for military "only" chips in US.

#

In very limited capacity.

maiden coyote
#

Some of it does. But most guidance systems are i386 like chips

#

Well yeah, the fab has to be profitable and 2nm is cutting edge.

#

And while icbms use old tech, drones and ai shit is the future and use the latest

twin dew
#

But the old fabs don't go away really.
Just the products change.

#

You have to start somewhere to cover the gap between the fucking old lines in existence and new lines.

maiden coyote
#

Indeed. Well here's to hoping that the new fallout series on Amazon doesn't play out

pure karma
pure karma
#

honestly like 2tb for a game drive is perfect

charred pewter
#

(for now)

#

with a fast net connection, its easily doable for now

pure karma
#

for atleast 3-4 mroe years it gonna doable

#

game are still topping out at like 80gb after like 5 years straight of doing so

#

heck i have 52 games installed on that drive rn on steam alone

#

like 15 at once is all most people need and even then thats a lot

stray badger
pure karma
#

i have two big games right now and thats it

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tough owl
#

i consider "large" games to be 50gigs plus

soft bloom
#

100+ is definitely large

#

anything past 200 is just a display of bad software

thick radish
#

Back in my day, large was 32MB

spark walrus
mental oriole
#

But we only need a few Kilobytes hehe

spark walrus
#

It isn't called Microsoft Windows ... 😛

sterile plinth
#

is there any reliable way to transfer all my browser data if I format?

#

right now im logged into 9 google accounts

#

many of which i am unsure if i know the password to, and dont want to risk it

#

obviously since im logged in to them i can switch at will without any need for a password

#

is there a way to transfer all my cache or cookies or whatever is responsible for that

#

so that after I format im still logged on to all of my accounts

mental oriole
#

Why the heck you need 9 accounts idontknow

sterile plinth
#

every account in ever site, its a pain to log back to all of them

mental oriole
#

can still do that with one account...

#

And just use a password manager idontknow

wanton orchid
#

btw "AI" is not the futur
it is actually the current marketing scam

soft bloom
#

who's idea was that when you login to old gogole account, your android will force you to install old apps used by that account!??!?! and once this process is ongoing - its nearly impossible to stop cause these apps just go and go...

soft bloom
soft bloom
#

its for photo camera

#

these days, i make screenshots in game of 20MB...

languid gulch
#

i remember when flash drives first came out, & an 8MB drive was decent

thick radish
mental oriole
#

Just use teh same google acc.

soft bloom
#

proton has this cool feature with creating aliases

jagged snow
winged valley
#

This customer's macbook is cursed

#

Fan was randomly maxing out after I just finished reinstalling macos, went down a rabbit hole of trying to diagnose and fix it (including resetting his most likely partially corrupted SMC, which caused it to refuse to boot for about 30 minutes of trying), only to figure out that the contacts on the connector for the fan's cable are pushed in making a bad PWM data connection

#

Reseating it changed nothing, I figured it out by pushing it in more with my thumb, so that's dumb. No real way for me to fix the connector either, so I'm stuck between "tape it and hope for the best" or "tin the pins on the board to make them slightly thicker". Both options suck lmao

#

Can't replace the fan bc customer doesn't want to spend any more money

abstract hawk
#

The only tech tips I know is if fans are going crazy perhaps some temperature meter is going bad or the fan controller thingie

winged valley
#

Checked all that, they were all fine

#

It really was the connector

abstract hawk
#

Yeah no I believe you

#

Connectors are suprisingly bad at being connectors

soft bloom
abstract hawk
#

They don’t half the time

#

Headphone jacks have worked less than they do in my experience

#

5 laptops/ desktops I’ve connected to since like 2011 had headphone jacks that stopped working or never did

soft bloom
#

Imagine handling fluid pipes in the same manner we expect electric connectors to work

abstract hawk
#

Only one had worked and it’s my newest purchase

#

So who really knows

soft bloom
#

I had much better experience

abstract hawk
#

Both desktops never worked

#

Either the io ports or the ones on the front of the case

#

Gotta hold them at a certain angle and pressure

soft bloom
#

I never actually looked up what is so fascinating about making connectors

#

you can't just slap a wire to a wire and call it a day

#

At least, in most cases

#

Connections are even made of different metal

#

And question"why" never got answered for me

abstract hawk
#

I believe gold and silver have lower resistiviry which is desired for small contact patches

#

Could be completely wrong though

#

Nvm I’m wrong

#

Gold resistivity is higher lmao

soft bloom
#

I vaguely remember there's something specifically about contact that makes gold desirable

#

Kinda like "works well even with tiny touch area"

#

After all, when gou slide gou into slot, what are the odds that all pins are Perfectly touching?

winged valley
#

Isn't it bc gold handles oxidation and corrosion better than silver and copper?

abstract hawk
#

thats a good point

gilded helm
#

As much as people make fun of gaming laptops for being loud AF in a quiet room, I'm still impressed with mine hitting the perfect sweet spot for fan noise. Satis is running full tilt, but the fans aren't audible due to background noise.

#

In the quiet of my hotel room, I'd be using my headphones regardless of what I'd be doing.

languid gulch
#

not gaming on a laptop while it's sitting on the bed can help

#

still trying to figure out why my monitor occasionally goes black for like 2s & then back to normal without turning off

pure karma
#

on todays episode of how greased up is greased up... that's greased up

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languid gulch
#

lay off the Lay's

pure karma
#

the theather popcorn is too 🔥

#

😂

tough owl
#

idk how you live like this

sharp oasis
#

Even

#

I clean my mouse often

pure karma
#

i have nerver cleaned a mouse in my life

languid gulch
#

my mouse has 12 side buttons, it needs the cleaning

pure karma
#

why does everyone like that 12 side button mouse its the biggest pile of trash mouse i have tried

languid gulch
#

cuz it's $40

pure karma
#

like why do you need 12 and why would you sacrifice practicality and comfort for it....

languid gulch
#

i've found it to be the best fitting mouse for my hand

pure karma
languid gulch
#

the only thing wrong with it is that it's missing the logitech infiniscroll wheel

#

the thing that did surprise me is that i can pick up the mouse by the buttons & not click any

pure karma
#

stiff buttons then i guess

languid gulch
#

just right, never had one do the "hard click" thing

pure karma
#

id go as far to say mine are too soft

languid gulch
#

i don't do FPS or super fast reaction games, so i don't really need anything super sensitive or soft

#

i can see it being not great for that

pure karma
#

i feel like its way better for that

#

the reaction time between your movement and the button being pressed down is lower

#

because its just simply less stiff

twin dew
#

Firefox probably has integrated export & import, but that is just a guess.

languid gulch
#

i also wasn't a keyboard snob until i finally got my first mechanical one, & i could depress keys without activating the switch for the first time

jagged snow
pure karma
languid gulch
#

no i just used crap keyboards

#

with scissor switches that has zero key travel

#

i spent good money on a keyboard for the first time & had that "oh, i get it now" feeling

pure karma
#

i spent 60$ for my curent one and 7$ for my last one lol

#

it felt like a improvement thats for sure

#

not having keys that bend 45 degrees in each direction is great

tough owl
languid gulch
#

yup

#

the wireless version

tough owl
#

I had the m908

#

I kinda miss it

languid gulch
#

i had the G602 & 604, but both had shit switches in them

#

i can get 2 of the red dragon ones for 1 logitech

abstract hawk
languid gulch
#

Hexgears X5 in white

sterile plinth
twin dew
#

Which according to Fight or Flight has native profile export and import.

charred pewter
#

@soft bloom #off-topic-media message Well part of this 'evolution' goes back to very low res screens and pixels where they only had so many dots to work with, and to make a nice 'diagonal' with, didn't mean perfect arrow proportions. it just stuck that way over time as making a true arrow would have fel awkward all of a sudden after years of people getting used to the original shape of a 'cursor' (not so much thought of as a true arrow, but a pointing device)

dire igloo
charred pewter
#

hm

#

🤷‍♂️ im too old school... hell my eyes dont seem to notice either way D:

soft bloom
stray badger
#

No, ubuntus default cursor has it too

#

You can change it

rustic panther
#

I swear by it

wanton orchid
#

why are penlight flashlights so shit fr
I really really want to make one myself

languid gulch
#

i suspect heat dissipation is the problem

#

one of my "normal" LED flashlights only takes 4 AAAs, but it puts out a hilarious amount of light. it also gets tangibly toasty after a few minutes, & i'd bet it's about 20 minutes of battery time total

abstract hawk
jagged snow
#

Yeah, I could not survive without my 100%

#

Biggest gripe with working from a laptop

abstract hawk
#

My laptop has a 96%

#

I love it

#

It’s a Lenovo, it’s very heavy and battery life is very short

#

I survive though

languid gulch
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my previous favorite keyboard was the K800 because it was wireless, backlit, & had a decent sized built-in wrist rest on it. sadly they stopped making it like 5 years ago, so when mine died, i was stuck with ones i just couldn't get used to even if they were "nice". spent $100 on the MX Keys only to have keys outright fail on it, including falling off

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i have no problems saying that i stuck with logitech for so long because it was supposedly a good brand. idk if that's changed in the last couple years, or if i've just had a string of bad luck, but for the same price or cheaper, i've found some decent alternatives

quasi citrus
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medium priced logitech is still my go to. have yet to be dissapointed. my g403 (mouse) and my G213 (Keyboard) work great even after being way out of warranty

abstract hawk
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Keyboards have been shit imo but mouse are alright

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I own a keychron v5

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Basic entry level mechanical pretty much but I’m not about to spend that much 100$ was already a lot of money for me

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Uni ain’t cheap

languid gulch
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logitech would probably make more money if they stopped making their own mice & just licensed out the infiniscroll patent

jagged snow
stray badger
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My razer basilisk ultimate is going on 3 years now and doing a damn fine job of it

jagged snow
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The g403 does have the best hand feel for general use of any gaming mouse I've ever used, so I'll stick with it despite that one issue

wanton orchid
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and the focusing optic

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I really feel like most are either too fragile or too big

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I want a poket monster

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standard battery too
because it makes it reliable and environmentally friendly (people are free to buy good rechargeable batteries, and the other part of the light don't need replacement when battery is dead)

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I choose a good 24W 85C 5000K 2400lm LED
and I know how to power it
though I don't have the circuit yet

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I also want it to support slow and fast battery charging
because why not

sand saddle
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Darmoshark M3 pro as a bigger alternative

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Lightweight focused so don't expect major comfort features or a ton of buttons. Both are ambi design.

visual tree
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I love this, makes much better ice cream than the store-bough ice cream ❤️

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tough owl
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Kitchen aid my beloved

stray badger
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Homemade ice cream is the best

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I didnt know they made a thing for a stand mixer tho

edgy hazel
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Its like a cooling pack in bowl form

stray badger
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I know, i have an ice cream maker, it just doesnt use a stand mixer to spin

edgy hazel
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The colder your freezer the better the result

stray badger
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It has its own spinny part

edgy hazel
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Oh no kitchen aid is great albeit expensive

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They got attachments for making juice, noodles all that shit

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But 💰

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(The juice one is amazing but a lot of cleaning up, put that juice directly into the icemaker tho)

twin dew
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I don't understand what you mean with "but it always goes all the way when i try to clamp it"?

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Yes, but what is happening with the cable end.

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Makes the contact worse.

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That metal at the end of the spring thingie just has to contact copper.
And not anything outside that could make contact with the other wire.

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So if the wire insulation is almost to the moving element, that is fine and good.

twin dew
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And the tinning wouldn't be good idea, as the conductors are supposed to squish, to get larger contact area.

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From the round original shape of the conductor bundle.

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So 0,75mm^2 to 1,50mm^2 cross-section?

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Not radius or diameter, cross-section in square-millimeters.

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AWG is American Wire Gauge, where smaller number is higher cross-section.

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AWG 18 is about 0,82mm^2, but is used as equivalent of 0,75mm^2 metric size.

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Yeah, AWG is just table with random change between sizes.
Metric cables are by cross-section (the important thing for conductivity).

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Their screw thread progression for the "numbered" screw threads is even more insane.
Not the ones specced compared to inch.

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You can usually change the speaker balance in Windows internals.

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In the "Levels" tab of the old audio source properties.

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Which is somewhat hidden in Windows 10, and very hidden in Windows 11.

twin dew
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Well, everything but the headphone virtualization is better in the current cards, over the X-Fi series.
And way better than any Audigy or earlier.

visual tree
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I would be glad to build a drone which can shoot darts on car tyres and test it on a BMW in a train station which constantly takes up 2 parking spots

jagged snow
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What do you mean by that?

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How does a car prevent garbage collection?

visual tree
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Either the driver has terrible parking skills or he/she is doing it on purpose

jagged snow
languid gulch
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has any case manufacturer tried to resurrect the old 80s louvered bifold closet door look?

maiden coyote
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once you get larger than 2 it goes to ought. 0, 2/0, 3/0 then after that it's circular mils.

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and circular mils is based on 1/1000 inch so 1000 kcmil = 1" diameter

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I think that goes up to like 1500-2000 kcmil.. which is rated for like 750A after that they use a pipe inside of a larger pipe and blast dry air through it and call it an iso-phase.

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if you need to move 10,000+ amperes at 10kV or more this is how they do it

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languid gulch
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worth the listen

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only 4 of those who have walked on the moon are still alive

jagged snow
languid gulch
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thank mr nixon for that

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the space shuttle was supposed to be more like the DreamChaser's size, & sit on top of the continued line of Saturn Vs

jagged snow
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Yup

languid gulch
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then the CIA went to nixon & said "hey, if we give it a gigantic cargo bay, we can grab some soviet satellites!"

jagged snow
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I have heard about that entire debacle

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Really a wild story

languid gulch
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🤣

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idk if it's more or less upsetting that it was never actually used for that mission

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i guess less, because that 100% would have led to war

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it's fun listening to the apollo 12 crew giggling like idiots to orbit

jagged snow
languid gulch
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things moving 7km/s being hostile towards one another, what could go wrong

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with apollo 12, they were able to check everything except the parachutes (for obvious reasons), & if they weren't going to deploy, they were dead either during an instant abort or a trip to the moon, so they figured why not do the full mission

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ISRU

gilded helm
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/me flees back down here

jagged snow
gilded helm
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As much as disagreement happens in here, I don't recall namecalling coming out like that. And so quickly.

tough owl
languid gulch
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awwww did i miss some fun?

jagged snow
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Marv was very rude to greeny

languid gulch
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still only 1 thing i think of when i see that name

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pretty sure he had the best screams of any movie

jagged snow
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I think so too

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That's such a good movie

languid gulch
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also great if you're trying to learn what a couple of New York accents sound like

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but also, if you're trying to learn english, don't sound like Joe Pesci

languid gulch
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so naturally you can't buy a car without something going wrong with it soon after

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looks like a chunk of 8 gauge wire stuck in one of the tires

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pressure monitor hasn't yelled at me yet, so hopefully i can get it in before it goes flat

umbral sorrel
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Hello everyone, this is a bit of a technical question, but I hope someone (hopefully from the dev team) can answer.
I have a framework 13 AMD with a 760M, unfortunately Satisfactory requires 4GB of VRAM but the 760M only has 2GB. The laptop can dynamically allocate ram to the GPU, but it looks like the game is not using it and it's causing textures to be missing. Is there any way I can force the game to use shared memory?

Alternatively, does anyone know how to increase the statically allocated VRAM over the max 2GB I can set from the BIOS?

twin dew
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How much RAM installed, what OS?

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He means AMD IGP in 7040 series laptop chips.

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Not the old Nvidia dGPU.

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And under Windows, the game should just use shared RAM with any IGP.
If there is RAM available.

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Which is why I asked about the OS.

umbral sorrel
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I've asked Framework support's if I can set the BIOS to allocate statically 4GB, but any help while I wait for their reply is very appreciated

twin dew
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So just Linux/Proton things.
RDNA3 IGPs didn't work with the UE5 at all few months ago.

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Under Proton and Linux.

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But you are in wrong place, this is one of the off-topic channels.
#1038092680493801533 for this kind of things.

umbral sorrel
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Y'all are redirecting me all around channels lmao

twin dew
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If you have access to the AMD CBS in the UEFI/BIOS, then you can change the allocation somewhere under there.

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Even if the Frameworks own menus don't have the option.

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Anyways that IGP has about 10 times the raw performance as the Raphael IGP, which can run the game at 20 FPS or so at all-low, even in Taros save.

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To Maxeek.

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But basically RDNA3 IGPs are too new for Linux Kernel driver support and for Proton support.
And UE5 is too new for Proton support.
Both have issues, and the combination didn't work at all just few months ago.

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Would work fine under Windows.

sand saddle
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Thermalright W

umbral sorrel
twin dew
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Point was that the specific combo of RDNA3, Proton and UE5 based Satisfactory has specific issues that aren't there with the same combo without Proton.
Or with any other GPU arch with Proton.

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And AFAIK at least some of the same issues are there for any other UE5 game with RDNA3 and Proton.

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Don't happen with RDNA2 IGPs for example.

umbral sorrel
twin dew
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And that is something specific to RDNA3 (IGP?), Proton and UE5 based Satisfactory.
Doesn't happen with older AMD IGP/GPU gens, doesn't happen on Windows, doesn't happen with older UE4 based Satisfactory.
Need all three.

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Don't know if same happens with RDNA3 dGPUs with Proton or not.

umbral sorrel
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I wonder why it works on the Deck tho

twin dew
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Deck isn't RDNA3, it is RDNA2 IIRC

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Just checking.

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Yup.

umbral sorrel
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it's rdna3

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the deck uses a 780M

twin dew
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Nope.
Deck uses semi-custom chip with RDNA2.

umbral sorrel
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mh

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my bad then

twin dew
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Also just Zen2 CPU cores, not even Zen3.

willow pike
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the steam deck APU is the same one as seen in the magic leap, Van Gogh

twin dew
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That is the codename, there isn't official/marketing name for the CPUs.

willow pike
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that 6nm one is a die shrink that I forget the name of

twin dew
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Or the IGP config.

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Mendicino (AMD 7#2#U) is very close, being 6nm TSMC Zen2 CPU parts with RDNA2 graphics and (LP)DDR5 memory to the Van Gogh Ryzen Custom parts used in Steam Decks.

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But the Steam deck chips have much bigger IGP than those.
And lower boost clocks.

willow pike
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just has a much smaller everything, yeah, i figure those are meant for chromebook-type laptops

twin dew
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Nah, the 7320U and 7520U have 4 Zen 2 HT cores, with higher boost clocks than the Steam Deck chips.
Just 2CU graphics instead of 8CU in Steam Deck ones.

willow pike
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all you need for web work

twin dew
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So Van Gogh is Mendicino based, but with larger IGP, and then power allocation moved over to IGP, so the max turbo for the CPU side was lowered.

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Which is the whole point of AMD semi-custom business, providing bespoke modified designs from common design blocks to people paying.

willow pike
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definitely a strong point of theirs, kept them afloat in the early 2010s

twin dew
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And Mendicino is cut down and die shrink version of Matisse and Renoir APU chips.
From up to two CCX to just one, and the IGP cut down from max of that 8CU to just 2CU.
Done on 6nm instead of previous 7nm.

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And switch from (LP)DDR4 to LPDDR5 for the IMC.

willow pike
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isn't that Vega

twin dew
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Ah, yeah, changed that side completely, mistake of mine.

willow pike
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easy to make, they kept vega around for years

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is also why van gogh and steam deck made such a splash, moving to rdna2 (plus all the work valve put in on the linux side)

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all the gaming handhelds were still vega at that point

twin dew
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RDNA1 was probably not suitable for cutting down and downclocking to IGP level of power usage at even same performance as the Vega IGPs got.

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Which was fixed in RDNA2 somehow.

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Or just development cycles not lining up right.

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RDNA1 never got any "bespoke" laptop dGPUs either.

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That was wrong, Navi 14 was basically one?

willow pike
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gyro aiming makes everything much more bearable

edgy hazel
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If they don't break within a year

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And even then, their ergonomics are kinda trash

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Mine died within a year.

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And I had a molten naga as well

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Since then I'm on the g502 train

edgy hazel
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I use stereo

pure karma
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i dont know i know firefox's sound suport is rather mid atleast for me

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if your looking for straight sound quality firefox is worst than all the other options which is kinda unfortunate

twin dew
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@prime elm Sorry, had the browser window that is normally in here on the general instead.

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But been happening enough with 13th and 14th gen that it is actual news now:
This was first I saw of it IIRC:
www.radgametools.com/oodleintel.htm

And the instructions there from Intel is to limit the CPU power, and if that isn't enought, give positive VCore offset until stable.
And if that is happening at this time, there will be LOT of unstable CPUs in use in few years.

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As the silicon ages and the chips will need more VCore to be stable at same temperature and frequency.

edgy hazel
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Only (mayor) thing that Firefox doesn't support is HEVC due to patent reasons iirc

rotund hamlet
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Even then there's probably a config to enable it because iirc it uses ffmpeg under the hood

edgy hazel
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Yeah there are ways to get it to run. But that not being enabled shouldn't make the audio worse

rotund hamlet
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I have no audio issues. Spotify app sounds no different than browser window. Admittedly I don't have a surround setup so I can't speak to that

twin dew
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Downsampling is something that any audio program should usually leave to the sound chip driver.
Unfortunately at one point Realtek drivers didn't do it and caused lot of issues if you fed 5.1 or 7.1 audio to one of those with just stereo speakers connected...

edgy hazel
rotund hamlet
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pretty sure you can change quality in browser

edgy hazel
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I can't at least. I can only change Language and "Show Now Playing"

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For everything else I'd need the program installed

rotund hamlet
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hmmm

pure karma
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chrome has the best sound suport

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followed by edge

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and then firefox vs explorer

twin dew
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Browser is just doing uncompression?
Which should be identical on all?

edgy hazel
twin dew
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And Chrome and Edge are same codebase...

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Both are Chromium, which contains the audio bits.

pure karma
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but switching to firefox is a instantly noticible decrease in sound qualitty

wanton orchid
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oh my god
I just noticed how much misinformation there is online about flashlight throw

edgy hazel
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Sounds more like it's a layer 8 issue

wanton orchid
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lot of people are copy pasting candela to throw conversion

twin dew
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Not directly related, you need the beam size too...

wanton orchid
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but it's completely wrong
because candela take angular beam into account
but so it get calculated from a single point
but the flashlight is not a single point
it's already pretty large
so the virtual point is far far away behind
and so you have to subtract all these meters

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to get actual throw

wanton orchid
pure karma
edgy hazel
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Yup Layer 8

twin dew
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No, I was mixing with luminosity units which didn't take beam size/area covered into account.

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But yes, it isn't exact same.

wanton orchid
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let me draw a small scheme

edgy hazel
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Oh I love scheming. Especially if it's evil plans

wanton orchid
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now I must get a way to have actual throw with initial beam "steradian distance" (m²)

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basically just need to get that "-m" from fake to real, depending on initial beam size

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btw I just saved my scheme, I will throw it everywhere I can

wanton orchid
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conclusion :

Throw (real) =　sqr(Candela/0.25) - sqr(BeamArea/BeamSteradian)
BeamSteradian = Lumen/Candela
Candela =　Lumen/BeamSteradian
Lumen = Candela * BeamSteradian

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note: for very small flashlight it does not change much things
but for very big spotlight it have huge impact

twin dew
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Just that when writing that I was mixing lumens and candela, and thinking about the end-effect beam-size, not the flashlight source end one.

wanton orchid
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oh ok np

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I'm scared of potentially miscalculations
but for my concept flashlight
I calculated
Fake throw : 3160m
Real throw : 3115m

twin dew
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And went checking right away, and realized the basic mistakes.

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And that stuff was in the end of the Candela Wikipedia page basically.

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Which makes it extra weird that people make the mistake...

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Between the theoretical candela point source and the actual light sources.

wanton orchid
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just keep in mind :
Lumen is the whole light
Candela is light beam in a direction
Lux is actual lighting of an object/surface

twin dew
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When even the Candela page included the stuff...

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And only the Lux actually matters

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Others are just ways to give way to get the lux without knowing the distance originally.

wanton orchid
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not always
if you have a very bright point
does not mean the remaining parts of the room are correctly lit

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all are important
but must not be mistaken

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surface/object lighting : Lux
lighting in a direction (distance unknown) : Candela
light source / power : Lumen

twin dew
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Meant Lux at the exact things you want to see is what determines how well you see it.
If there isn't glare etc. from something else.

wanton orchid
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Lux in practical setup must take glare into account

twin dew
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Of course point lux doesn'

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't tell anything about about any other point.

wanton orchid
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this a pocket light btw
literally
only 7 to 8 cm long

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I like the idea of pocket monster

stray badger
wanton orchid
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(it can only achieve this for short duration though (few minutes))

wanton orchid
twin dew
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Remember the battery discharge speed limits.

wanton orchid
twin dew
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I meant that if you have 100mAh battery for example and try to pull more than 3A, you will almost certainly be in problems.
And even 1A might, depending on the exact Li-Ion battery. (30C, 10C discharge rates).