#off-topic-tech
edgy hazel
edgy hazel
And I'm already troubleshooting why it won't boot no more....
sharp oasis
mmmm gotta love negotating with my mother.
You shouldint buy a used gpu because it could be garbage.
My argument was "Its got ebay money back guarantee, if its garbage i just go through the hoops of gettting my money back"
"Keep in mind your going to the miliary so there's no point"
"I know that and when i do end up giving my pc away Id like for it to have a semi compitent graphics card"
and just ended up with being asked to do more chores
im fine with chores.
jagged snow
Big news on breaches at mandiant and Kaspersky within a week
The cybersec space is crazy rn
night girder
Thats embarrassing to say the least.
crude vine
Hello, can someone help with configuring local Nextcloud-AIO instance? I have a problem with setting up reverse proxy and pi-hole
charred pewter
logitech sent me a new mouse ... bottom result vs top result ...
it is insanely more stable and predictable movement than the other
i can actually select text properly now in coding lol
jagged snow
Man, I am already so tired of hearing about ai. In the past, big companies usually didn't push so hard for so many changes that don't improve the ux, but that's the trend we've been seeing for the last year. It really makes me wonder what is motivating these corporations to push this hard on something that's so incredibly costly for them, since they're having to front the hardware to use it.
tough owl
Microsoft wanting a dedicated AI key 🤡
jagged snow
Yeah 😦
From a privacy perspective, I will not use Ms ai until it can be done completely locally with no data going to msoft
tough owl
My guess is customer data. People are using chat bots to tell corporations everything
jagged snow
That's my assumption as well
I've spoken with a few people that are using them to ask for product recommendations on a a very regular basis, so there's a lot of potential there.
tough owl
the more they can understand the human brain and its interactions with technology the easier it is to subtly control what we see which in the long term benefits them
jagged snow
Yeah, it's really crazy to think just how much effort goes into influencing people's actions, decisions, and thought process on a daily basis
tough owl
I don’t like it but me opposing it ain’t gonna do much
best I can do explain it to people I interact with
jagged snow
Yeah
While I still can I support open-source projects and stay as smart with my data as possible
tough owl
I try to use open source stuff but sometimes closed sourced is far better
jagged snow
Yeah
My OS is still closed-source 
charred pewter
its frightening how many people are so loose with their info and just willynilly installing random apps on their phones and computers
tough owl
gotta love immediate gratification
charred pewter
and all those 'influencers' ...
some people treat some like a religion! they ignore everything except what 'their influencer tells them'
karmic niche
i just install some of the things my buddy tells me to lmao
night girder
My guess is customer data. People are using chat bots to tell corporations every...
people are also testing the AI for free so they can improve. Hell people are even paying them so the costumer can improve the product 😂
I still love it, it's such a win-win for companies. Making people pay. Letting the same people test your product so you can improve. Brilliant idea.
cobalt ivy
weird issue, trying and succeeding to download open rgb firmware, but upon going to my downloads folder the zip file aint there.
already did a search for the file on my drive, its not there
cobalt ivy
go to your browser and locate from there
after downloading the full filesize it shows up as 0kb in the browser
night girder
after downloading the full filesize it shows up as 0kb in the browser
did microsoft defender put it in quarantine?
cobalt ivy
microsoft defender is not running, i disabled it
cobalt ivy
correct
cobalt ivy
but then it goes to
cobalt ivy
restarted 4 times already
night girder
have you tried downloading something else?
jagged snow
You have actually checked the target download location to make sure it's not there, right?
cobalt ivy
trying to figure out what else is running, next step is pausing avast
night girder
avast 👀
cobalt ivy
have you tried downloading something else?
you know, i havent tried that yet
night girder
sure no security software is running?
👆 👆 👆
feels like something is putting the file in quarantine.
check avast logs. or quarantine.
cobalt ivy
so, a random picture downloads just fine, a differnt version of open rgb still vanishes
night girder
it's open source, so it doesn't have the "proper" signatures. This might make it suspicious and anti virus can kick in.
cobalt ivy
check avast logs. or quarantine.
avast is not showing anything..
is there a torrent or other source for this firmware?
cobalt ivy
you have to scroll a little bit.
this one also doesnt show up, filescan is disabled in avast
the sourcefile does download, but im guessing thats useless
i was quick now, it does show up in my downloads folder and then poof
dire igloo
Guardians of the Galaxy is free on Epic Games
night girder
i was quick now, it does show up in my downloads folder and then poof
My hunch is still some anti-virus software. Have you tried a different browser?
cobalt ivy
My hunch is still some anti-virus software. Have you tried a different browser?
ill keep looking, thanks
not a priority luckily
gilded helm
That definitely looks like antivirus quarantine to me
night girder
That definitely looks like antivirus quarantine to me
Yeah, other files download without a problem.
You can try to nuke avast
cobalt ivy
first time happening with open source stuff, so weird 😛
night girder
well you were able to download the source files yes? Those don't contain any .exe files is my bet.
cobalt ivy
well you were able to download the source files yes? Those don't contain any .ex...
correct
but how do i run those ?
night girder
you don't, you need to compile them. So I don't think it's a viable option unless you are familiar with how.
cobalt ivy
no idea, so lets not go there
mental oriole
you'd need cmake or something similar assuming the code is c/c++.
But ye... "more work" 🙂
cobalt ivy
ill need to find wth is putting this file away and where, but avast doesnt show it, windows defender is off, inbuild firefox protecion is also disabled
night girder
check firefox add-ons.
cobalt ivy
all i have
cobalt ivy
*assuming windows*
Windows 11
mental oriole
Could be storage sense or something else then.
cobalt ivy
Could be storage sense or something else then.
it was off already
mental oriole
Is app & browser control enabled?
It's technically a win defender setting but does not hurt to check
cobalt ivy
Is app & browser control enabled?
It's technically a win defender setting but do...
its off
mental oriole
No idea then.
night girder
And have you tried a different browser?
cobalt ivy
any recommended scanner?
night girder
or boot into safe mode with internet and try downloading.
twin dew
Windows Defender
night girder
Windows Defender
is off they say.
twin dew
As recommended antivirus
night girder
Ah 😂
twin dew
Over Avast
night girder
and make sure you restart after uninstalling.
cobalt ivy
Over Avast
gimme a better option then both then
twin dew
There aren't really, at least for free.
AVG and Avast are the same product with different name.
And the third free one isn't much better.
cobalt ivy
There aren't really, at least for free.
AVG and Avast are the same product with ...
a cheap payed one?
twin dew
Only reason to not use Windows Defender is if you have Windows Updates disabled for some reason, as the protection updates come through that one.
night girder
Windows Defender is really legit. It's built into the OS, so you will not notice it running.
And it made tons of improvements over the last couple of years.
cobalt ivy
kay, restarted, lets see
night girder
Tbh, it's a bit of a no-brainer to have it run. Also it almost gets updated daily.
twin dew
The definition files do get daily update, like with any other.
cobalt ivy
nope, avast is gone, it downloads and then vanishes from the download folder
gilded helm
It will take a few minutes, but can you try searching your entire C drive for the file?
cobalt ivy
It will take a few minutes, but can you try searching your entire C drive for th...
already tried that
cobalt ivy
Tbh, it's a bit of a no-brainer to have it run. Also it almost gets updated dail...
well, its on again
night girder
a maybe work around: if you can get access to another computer/laptop. Download the files, put it on a stick and try installing it like that
it does not point out the problem or fix it.
mental oriole
Can you try something really stupid?
in powershell
curl google.com -O index.html
and then ls and see if index.html exists
cobalt ivy
Can you try something really stupid?
in powershell
curl google.com -O index.html
sorry what?
night girder
will download the index.html
"ls" is the command you use to show files in powershell, in your current directory that is.
cobalt ivy
Can you try something really stupid?
in powershell
curl google.com -O index.html
what do i do, no idea what you say here
mental oriole
It's basically a sanity check to see if you can download anything.
night girder
It's basically a sanity check to see if you can download anything.
we already did that.
Sayo can download pictures and stuff.
but maybe curl can bypass it
mental oriole
Maybe
mental oriole
got the url to where you got the openrgb? gonna need to craft the link.
I assume it's from gitlab
night girder
wait
cobalt ivy
cobalt ivy
plus the https stuff
mental oriole
curl openrgb.org/releases/release_0.9/OpenRGB_0.9_Windows_64_b5f46e3.zip -O openrgb.zip
just make sure to add the https://
cobalt ivy
like this?
night girder
no, curl htps+url
night girder
ls + enter
cobalt ivy
shows my directory and this
night girder
nice it downloaded it
mental oriole
You could do the same to download firefox and try reinstall it.
night girder
still weird that something was deleting it.
- Tried different browser
- Tried without Avast
- Can download other files
- Can download with curl
- Windows defender disabled
- Reputation Based protection was off
cobalt ivy
i just tried downloading it on a different device, not a single problem
i send it trough discord, but couldnt save it from there either, save yes, keep no
mental oriole
in cmd / powershell (admin)
sfc /scannow
in case there is a corrupt system file causing issues
cobalt ivy
Thank you all 3, for helping out anyway
mental oriole
And run a scan in defender in case it finds something (unlikely, but you never know)
If neither fixes or finds anything I would recommend a complete reinstall.
night girder
And run a scan in defender in case it finds something (unlikely, but you never k...
afaik, it only happened to this specific file
mental oriole
Ahh. Strange. Anyways. I gotta go.
twin dew
Might be only unsigned one that has been tested.
mental oriole
got work early 🙂
night girder
Might be only unsigned one that has been tested.
yeah though the same
night girder
got work early 🙂
👋
cobalt ivy
got work early 🙂
gotta sleep soon too, thanks
running that scan
now it gets interesting, if i select pink in openrgb i get blue in my case xD
but that is for tomorrow lol
arigato, good night
night girder
btw, openrgb has a cool discord. Should you need support.
edgy hazel
steam won't start anything 😭
cobalt ivy
btw, openrgb has a cool discord. Should you need support.
must be a fan one, cause not on their website
night girder
It's on their website. Click the hamburger. Top right corner.
cobalt ivy
got it, thanks
need sleep, work will be demanding tomorrow
last note, now my Mobo rgb stays on after shutdown, but i know how to fix that
jagged snow
Oh boy, another major breach https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/01/a-ridiculously-weak-password-causes-disaster-for-spains-no-2-mobile-carrier/
mental oriole
Lol, that password...
edgy hazel
Linux users, when they need to run a command in the terminal: ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ Ah, here it is!
mental oriole
No?
languid gulch
just be sure to bring a piece of plywood with you so you don't damage the table
edgy hazel
Oh I got this mf
mental oriole
That is also fine. It's to prevent the dice edges from digging into the table.
nimble cargo
WOOOOOOHOO
those are gorgeous.
languid gulch
& yes, i'm jealous
languid gulch
yea i think just about all d4s count as caltrops
dire igloo
They have dragons in em
can you link em pls? they look amazing
dusk rivet
got a brass dice set, let’s hope i never step on the d4
dire igloo
btw, I got myself one of these, idk how long until it arrives tho
dusk rivet
dice tray/carrier?
dire igloo
yeah, dice bag basically
edgy hazel
can you link em pls? they look amazing
I got the silver with white numbers for 13,something€ prices have gone up hard for some reason
dusk rivet
ooh those are cool
edgy hazel
i need me a dice tray
I bought mine for 3,68€
dusk rivet
i need to buy more stuff off ali express over amazon
dire igloo
Cobalt Nickel Green looks sick - or those blood splatter ones
dusk rivet
started playing dnd with a group of friends and now they got me hooked on buying dice
dire igloo
exact same for me
dusk rivet
especially given the dm has several sets of super cool dice
edgy hazel
BG3 woke the world to DND again
dire igloo
I got one full dice set, one almost full set, then two extra ones to fill the almost full set, then two more to add to those
dusk rivet
i always wanted genuine crystal dice
dire igloo
dang, dice made from gemstones was something I didn't know I wanted until now
nimble cargo
I have a second set that was turned into earrings and a necklace. (The set in the picture is half the size of a normal dnd set, had it for ~30 years)
Designer dice has exploded in recent years, and I've had to seriously limit what I add to my collection. 😦
nimble cargo
... oh my ...
languid gulch
ok i have a really dumb question
would it be possible to use vram chips as SoC system ram?
twin dew
Yes?
If the SOCs memory controller is designed for them like some console SOCs are.
languid gulch
i wonder if that'd give some kind of advantage on something like a portable console, give it GDDR ram for gaming performance instead of like cheapo laptops using sodimm DDR4 for vram
twin dew
If with VRAM you mean GDDR?
Both PS5 and XBox Series for example uses GDDR.
But GDDR has higher bandwidth, but significantly worse latency.
languid gulch
i didn't know if there were architectural differences substantial enough to prevent that kind of use
twin dew
So better for GPU/IGP, but limits the CPU performance.
When the CPU is cache trashing or like in the specific load.
Even DDR vs LPDDR of each generation needs specific support for each.
And GDDR is just tangentially related, when DDR & LPDDR are very close each gen.
languid gulch
so it's possible, but likely not worth the investment
twin dew
Like I said, the console SOCs both use GDDR6 currently, and some of the previous ones used GDDR, some DDR.
To maximize the IGP performance at cost of CPU performance.
languid gulch
would something like the X3D cache help in that area?
twin dew
Yes
languid gulch
LOL steam deck with X3D & GDDR6 SoC ram would be amazing to see
twin dew
The IGP in that doesn't probably have enough execution resources for that to make sense.
Remember that the SOCs used by Microsoft and Sony for the consoles have much bigger IGPs than any normal line CPU from AMD.
languid gulch
true
was kinda wild seeing the board on LTT for the first time
"Star Citizen's 'Everything Pack' Costs $48,000"
twin dew
And only thing you can trust is that it will not actually contain everything XD
languid gulch
for that price i'd rather be part owner
charred pewter
that second video... was it youtube screwin it up? but cant even see what you were picking at lol it was all cut off the left
charred pewter
those wireless mouse dongles ... it says 'up to 10 meters reliable reception!' .... yet it seems the closer i put the thing to my mouse, the more it skips losing reception lol
is this a case of 'being overloaded by its own signal' ??
languid gulch
or something's more & more in the way of it
charred pewter
FINGERS!!!! omg ...
i knew my adamantium implants were going to bite me in the ass someday
languid gulch
lol
i wonder about high airflow case panels having some kind of faraday cage effect
charred pewter
made of copper im sure they would!
languid gulch
does it have to be copper?
charred pewter
i thought it had to be highly conductive material
languid gulch
i feel like steel qualifies
twin dew
Almost anything metallic is ok.
And the hole size then determines the "cutoff", with smaller needed for higher frequencies.
languid gulch
might also be itself interfering with itself
seen dumber things, but it's a possibility if they didn't properly test it
charred pewter
funny thing is the one i have downstairs for my HTPC... i sit like 12 feet away from the computer and it never skips lol
yet this one, i've got it in a visual path only 8 inches away... hmm, maybe i need t oroute it off a usb extension and around as far on the back of the desk as possible
languid gulch
it's not bluetooth i assume
charred pewter
nope
usb dongle ... the 2.4ghz kind
its just a weird 'dead zone' the mouse skips over... if i move the dongle, the deadzone moves to a different location
keep trying to find a spot where i have no deadzones on my mousing area
ive mentioned how much i hate wireless mice ...... yeah, i think i have 😄 ...
cyan crescent
What are some good rechargeable D cell batteries?
charred pewter
deadzones, skips, weight, sleeping, charging
wired mouse is a set n forget kinda device 😄 (until it just breaks/stops working)
winged valley
that second video... was it youtube screwin it up? but cant even see what you we...
youtube?
i said ignore the bad camerawork
dire igloo
Damn these look nice
why would you share something this amazing and not link it?
good luck keeping them dust free tho
pure karma
Damn these look nice
i tought that was lego technic at first
they do infact look sick tho
what are they?
gilded helm
"Star Citizen's 'Everything Pack' Costs $48,000"
Do they throw in a good PC to go along with that at least? My Bolt just cost me less than half that.
Also, I vastly underestimated how much fun a subcompact electric car would be to drive.
Once they finally release a better version of the Mini I bet that thing is going to be a blast
edgy hazel
why would you share something this amazing and not link it?
just look a bit at aliexpress
they got nice ones
stray badger
I have a set of tiger's eye dice, always wanted a quartz set.
I got some rose quartz shapes, gonna laser engrave the numbers on
Got these coming soon tho
median walrus
that sakura dice looks damn good
stray badger
They have multiple colors too
languid gulch
i want Sam's jerry can dice tower
tribal kraken
Damn, my 10 year old HP zBook 17 G3 had strange throttling problems, without actually overheating... Now HP has released BIOS in december that fixed those promlems. Cant believe it 😄
night girder
Damn, my 10 year old HP zBook 17 G3 had strange throttling problems, without act...
Lucky you 😄
charred pewter
Damn, my 10 year old HP zBook 17 G3 had strange throttling problems, without act...
HP releasing drivers that actually work ??
night girder
Just read asrock is releasing monitor with 520Hz refresh rate 😒 Model: PG27FFX2A
because... why not 🤷♂️
jagged snow
cloud connected
charred pewter
they are using "AI" for everything now ... its like the new "X" or "HD" label they used to slap on everything
jagged snow
Yeah
I have seen a lot of products that already relied on neural networks rebranding as ai
night girder
You can still use ML in a labratorium to train the bot to spot stains and steam it. But once it's trained, you just hardcode that shit in.
jagged snow
It drives me nuts trying to explain just how incredibly different the neural networks used in commercial/industrial applications are from those used in generative systems.
night girder
I doubt they want a robot vacuum that keeps on learning, because if it learns the wrong thing, your whole floor will be wet.
It better also have an AI reset button for when it goes wrong, if it's really AI/ML. So I doubt it. Just marketing.
jagged snow
Yes
Most people have no conception of the difference between ml and a locked pretrained network
This is one situation where ignorance is more dangerous than it usually is in tech
charred pewter
"why wont this stain come out! its all over the place!" ... (trying to clean the polyurethane off wood floors)
night girder
Square Enix boss new year resolution in 2023: NFT. Square Enix boss new year resolution in 2024: AI.
So if you want to know what is the latest hype for a year. Just watch out for news from Square Enix around January. They keep changing and going with the flow.
tough owl
NFT is something I havent heard in a long time
night girder
NFT is something I havent heard in a long time
and I am so happy for it
dire igloo
NFTs as a concept are good - but only if it's actually pixel data that's "protected", not a URL to some CDN hosting the image.
And even then, cloaking exists
charred pewter
ok this is driving me crazy .... my 144hz monitor is now only allowing 120hz to be selected... but i WAS able to select 144 just fine, and ive not changed my cable from my GPU to the Monitor (its still a display port cable i was using)
charred pewter
ok for some reason when playing Lego star wars, it was forcing the monitor to 120, and then the monitor was stuck in that and wouldnt go higher until i did a full reboot. but once i set the in-game resolution to 144, it stopped doing that. NO IDEA why all of a sudden this game started doing that, when i'd been playing it fine for the last week trying to plug through it
twin dew
Because the game or possibly some emulator in the mix is doing stupid things to limit the frequency while ingame?
And not removing that limitation correctly when it quits
sage heron
help
sage heron
ok this is driving me crazy .... my 144hz monitor is now only allowing 120hz to ...
lower your resolution
twin dew
lower your resolution
Not related?
Thought about the same too first, but that wasn't one of the cutoff-points in DisplayPort bandwidth.
And the second message said what was the actual reason.
sage heron
Not related?
Thought about the same too first, but that wasn't one of the cutoff...
how about the monitors menu
sometimes monitors has menus
twin dew
ok for some reason when playing Lego star wars, it was forcing the monitor to 12...
Just ingame setting messing up OS.
crude vine
Hey, would it be difficult for someone to explain a little thing with wireguard. I want to connect my PC to wireguard, that is installed on VPS (wg-easy), but also I want that PC to be available by local IP (I mean 192.168.1.X). How can I do that? PC runs ubuntu server 22.04
charred pewter
Just ingame setting messing up OS.
Yeah, so crazy how they can do that sometimes! it was out of the blue too, like I had been playing this same game for a week with it pinned to 144... then suddenly i looked over and the game was pinned to 120 (with the lil g-sync logo up), and I was like wait what? so I alt tabbed over and sure enough my monitor was set to 120... so I quit the game, and then it was stuck at 120 ! LOL ... wasted a good hour looking up posts all seeming to be about people not using displayport cables, and I'm like none of these posts mean jack to me because this all was JUST FINE yesterday without a single hardware/software change 😄 lol
twin dew
2560x1440 @ 144 FPS & 10bit is just over what DP 1.2 can officially support without DSC.
But no problem for 8bit colors.
And if it was bad cable, there would have been warnings in the picture or functionality.
But bad advice on Internet?
Doesn't happen! XD
charred pewter
haha ... considering its the same monitor and cable ive been using for over a year without problems too ... 😄
i just couldnt find any topics about "a game fucked up the display settings os level" or whatnot (or alluding too)
still not sure what tripped up LEGO SWS to drop to a lower res/hz setting in-game ... that one was weird
those are 'industrial monitors' for the work place ... because 👆
built to withstand work rage 😄
hahaha yeah ..... lego star wars at that
this game is endless its driving me nuts. trying to plug through it but its taking forever.... getting so annoyed with the "shiney thing here but you cant get it right now cause reasons... come back later when you've given up on the game!"
"you dont have the right character for that action right now" .... ffff
so many ... sooooo many ....
twin dew
Made so you have to play it twice.
Once through to get all the skills, then second time for the extra stuff.
Same for all the LEGO games.
You are supposed to just run through the story on the first time.
And no, I don't like that either.
charred pewter
right 😦 would rather not be able to see all that crap inches from reach along the way as it drives me crazy ... like "i found this! oh poo i cant get it" ... arg !
"play story mode" without the needless distraction items ... then "open world galaxy" unlocks when you finish the story
yeah there was a lot of that in there ... those riddler things ... guhhh
oh wait, you need a SPECIAL upgraded batarang to do this riddle !
or the one riddle that couldnt be solved unless you had the pre-order dlc on your game ... 🤦
night girder
But bad advice on Internet?
Doesn't happen! XD
never.
charred pewter
some days .... some days
ive only got one night light, its LED and its in the 'kitty room' so she can see her litter box 😉
but i know of what you speak ... i see those still at my mothers house, cause she wont replace them with new LED models (until they finally wear out/burn out)
i had to show up with a box of LED bulbs to replace all her bathroom/hall/bedroom fixtures with them cause she wouldnt go and buy new led bulbs
my energy company here sends us them free of charge ... so i had requested the maximum allowed and they sent me a gob 😄 since i only really use 4 bulbs in my entire house... i took the rest to my moms lol
i dont mind it dark in my house cause i know where everything is and can walk around just fine .... my mother likes to turn on every light in the house all the time, even when clouds pass overhead and it gets a bit dark inside
heh yeah
my bathroom fixture has 3 bulbs too, i think i put the 4w kind in though... and its still bright in the morning im like ffffffffff lighttt
nope!
so much smooths out over time
smoothen the rough edges... find out what didnt work, adjust ...
one thing i like about 'old homes' ... theyve had that 100 years of 'fiddling' to smoothen out all the rough edges 😄
for light bulbs ?
ah
i need a new water heater that doesnt have a fricken pilot light ......... it makes doing anything toxic in the basement a fire hazard
either need one of them 'on demand' gas units which draws its air from outdoors to light up... or get an electric
nice
quality? like, it sorta works, sorta doesnt ?
air bubbles ? 😄
what did you have in a bathroom that used gas ?
yuck
my frunace which heats up the water in my radiator loop... is pretty clean burning, only water vapor comes out the pipe
but over a few years, the internal chamber fins need cleaning cause of calcium buildups
like mini stalagtites/mites
hrm, that sucks
jagged snow
Mostly because they're used to getting it from russia
maiden coyote
In Cali they've banned building new homes that use gas I think
This was before the stuff with Russia. All electric is"greener" but the power comes from burning gas and coal.
stray badger
This was before the stuff with Russia. All electric is"greener" but the power co...
we have a lot more solar here
so it is actually cheaper for a lot of people as using solar that you have already paid for is better than using gas while your solar just goes back to the grid
but its not like most people are even going to be buying new homes due to how expensive they would be anyways
steady island
Guys, Can someone help me with a bi directional railway with two trains, I am completely lost with the path signals. Will apreciate if someone would help. 
twin dew
So spammed that on at least three channels?
Two completely wrong?
dire igloo
This was before the stuff with Russia. All electric is"greener" but the power co...
I like geothermal and district heating
Just use waste heat from a power plant to heat residential buildings
Or use literal magma (well, the heat that the magma radiates into the ground, but still)
twin dew
From colder than -30 C to warmer than 0 C with one changeover day...
If next weeks forecast is to be believed.
edgy hazel
bro we had like 14°C over christmas and now it switched to -3 in one day
mental oriole
We have -15 here 🙂
twin dew
I had forgotten a critical "-"
night girder
Kade, have you seen the MSI handheld? Claw? 32GB memory (posted it while back)
jagged snow
For those interested, here's an example of how the contact on the die worsens over time for 6700xt cards using a cooler based on the reference design. The part of the cooler furthest from the motherboard begins to pull away from the die, leading to very high hotspot temps even on cards with overkill coolers.
Away from the motherboard is to the left on the first picture and to the right on the other.
@sharp oasis
twin dew
So GPU sag, but for the cooler.
jagged snow
Yes
The tension supplied by the mounting screws is insufficient on that side as far as I can tell
twin dew
Well, the quad-spring thing on "backside".
jagged snow
Yes
But there are also 6 other screws to hold the rest of the cooler and they are poorly located, leading to a significant amount more weight from the heatsink being placed on the "top" two springs
And I believe that is the root of the problem
twin dew
So some kind of washer-mod might help without removing the whole cooler.
Or running the computer case upside-down for heat-cycle.
GPU heat cycle.
gilded helm
Huh. Cool. Well, terrible for those actually dealing with it, but as an observer it's interesting.
jagged snow
Unfortunately, the issue is mild enough that it takes around two months for it to really be clear that it is showing up and another month or two after that before the hotspot starts breaking 100
gilded helm
At $320 The 6700 XT is still one of the best cards to buy
I'm fascinated how this 7600 XT that's apparently coming will slot in
jagged snow
Yep, and as far as I can tell it's not all cards that have this issue, just the cheaper ones using that mounting layout
gilded helm
It's funny how things have changed. I'm not hyped at all for CES. But then I realized in the good old days I would be learning about new products from the event instead of before the event. Super cards feel like old news at this point.
jagged snow
I'd also like to compare my cheap Chinese tim to my thermalgrizzly stuff at some point
gilded helm
Fun with adapters last night
(My only way to plug in at this dance studio was a 3.5mm line they had run across the room)
jagged snow
Oh boy, that's some fun stuff
I did an event like that except it was 3.5mm to 1/4in to xlr 😅
Also the line was run next to power cables
gilded helm
I have no idea how the line was run. But I'm very sure the studio owners wouldn't have any idea to not do that, so basically I got lucky.
I specifically got that mixer because of its 1/4 and XLR out options. It's helped me avoid needing any sort of XLR adapter.
jagged snow
That's nice
I hate adding points of failure like that, not to mention the impact on sound quality
gilded helm
Adapt and overcome ✊
pure karma
is a 1T HDD from 2020 worth keeping around or nah?
i dont really need it but i also cant be bothered to sell it and its not like i can give it to a freind because the only freind i have thats on a desktop allready has a 2T HDD
gilded helm
That should probably be relegated to a backup device. SSDs are so cheap now that I don't understand using HDDs for any primary storage outside of enterprise sort of use cases.
Prices have gone back up for now, but even good quality four terabyte drives fall below $200
edgy hazel
@tough owl first thing I've done: macify my ubuntu
tough owl
Why
edgy hazel
I like it
sharp oasis
i might actually buy a Intel ARC gpu
languid gulch
how close are we to Battlemage coming out?
might be getting a sneak peek at CES this week
jagged snow
how close are we to Battlemage coming out?
iirc they're not planning to launch until q3 '24
languid gulch
yeesh. thought we were closer
i haven't heard anything about battlemage now that i think about it
also if it ends up being a garbage gpu, they'll never live down abbreviating it to BM
gilded helm
If Intel teases Battlemage at CES, I won't trust any release date they give
languid gulch
any fun steam sales?
winged valley
<@1020337909896859698> first thing I've done: macify my ubuntu
mac 🤢
gnome is bad enough already why'd you have to go all the way
serene charm
Last I heard battlemage was Q2 but could be wrong
languid gulch
can't wait to see WotC try to sue Intel for using D&D class names for their line of GPUs
edgy hazel
Next line will be the Male Level 9 Wood Elf Druid
languid gulch
i thought it was cleric
languid gulch
around 2070 from the looks of it
sterile plinth
guys is there any way to set AMD software hotkeys to be one single key?
i want to set up the replay thing, but it only accepts combiantions (like with ctrl or shift) as valid hotkeys
tough owl
Saw the title for the newest GN video. Why is there a 5700x3d 💀
dusk rivet
guys is there any way to set AMD software hotkeys to be one single key?
could use auto hotkey to set a combination, then bind that combination to a single key, and set that combination as the hotkey in the amd software
little roundabout but should work
stray badger
Saw the title for the newest GN video. Why is there a 5700x3d 💀
what
is amd high?
i guess they just have that many zen 3 dies lying around
jagged snow
I do really wish that windows was better about being able to update stuff without restarts
charred pewter
that would be nice
but macOS is the same boat.... restart after every little update
lol "The 4080 Super is slated to be priced at $999" .... yeah, bullshit. it wont BE THAT on the actual market though!
edgy hazel
but macOS is the same boat.... restart after every little update
if it makes it any better, they at least have added hidden auto update to security fixes
So it's not as insanely important to update anymore
Except for bug fixes ofc
charred pewter
ah
stray badger
lol "The 4080 Super is slated to be priced at $999" .... yeah, bullshit. it wont...
ok, so no nvidia for me then
charred pewter
the 4070tiS looks decent, and should be a lower price
the only difference i see between it and the 4080 S is ... a couple hundred less shader cores... but they bumped vram up, and cache, and all the rest
gonna guess initial bench tests will show the 4070tiS and the 4080S being pretty close
one of those "its not worth the extra $400 for the 4080S"
gilded helm
Is the 7600 XT just going to be the same as the original, but with better 1% lows? Is there a point to this product?
Isn't that how the 4060 TI 16 GB worked?
night girder
I do really wish that windows was better about being able to update stuff withou...
windows pro, disable it in GP
charred pewter
yeah, looking at the specs for the 4070tiS and 4080S .. im like 'whats the point of the 4070tiS?!'
2000 less shader cores? thats it ?! what, why bother, wtf
i dunno though, i dont follow the specs on nvidia cards well .... and nvidia's pointless "green bar bigger than this other green bar" graphs/data ... well ... yeah
jagged snow
In my opinion, they're releasing all these skus to pack the product lineup and make it harder for people without knowledge to pick the card that suits them best.
charred pewter
no doubt... plus with the gap before the 50xx ... they wanna confuse the matter
lol, amazon has 4080 cards "used" for over $1000 ... uhm,
tough owl
In my opinion, they're releasing all these skus to pack the product lineup and m...
they wanna make a card at every price point too its kinda dump
jagged snow
That would be such a problem if they could just release reasonably priced cards anyways
I wish they would return to seperating the entusiast cards from the consumer ones like they did with titan
tough owl
gotta confuse the consumers so they just buy bigger number for only $100 more
gilded helm
AMD's attempt to fill their mid-range price gap is the weirdest in my opinion. But I guess what were they going to do, release a weirdly cut down Navi 32 product?
twin dew
And the AMD Ryzen 5700 is the APU chip without IGP,,,
night girder
no, they don't work in home.
I tried them all. For two weeks I struggled with disabling or getting control over updates.
Then I threw the towel and went for Pro.
twin dew
So 5500 and 5700 are APU based, 5600 is multidie in between...
night girder
Yes, on the internet there are many topics on "You can set it in registry, you can hack GP and install it on home" etc. None worked.
Who was confused?
twin dew
Yes, on the internet there are many topics on "You can set it in registry, you c...
Because MS has probably been plugging the "holes" over time.
The amount of registry edits working to enable GPO settings without Pro has been going down over time since forever.
night girder
Because MS has probably been plugging the "holes" over time.
The amount of regis...
We've been over it. You and me were talking about it back when I was doing it 😉 I know it was you who told me this story back then.
doesn't matter. Doesn't work on 10. Doesn't work on 11. (The registry edits for GP).
Only thing that works are script that "listen" to the update services and kill them when they start. But this is a nasty work-around.
:: Brute force rename services
for %%i in (WaaSMedicSvc) do (
takeown /f C:\Windows\System32%%i.dll && icacls C:\Windows\System32%%i.dll /grant *S-1-1-0:F
rename C:\Windows\System32%%i.dll %%i_BAK.dll
icacls C:\Windows\System32%%i_BAK.dll /setowner "NT SERVICE\TrustedInstaller" && icacls C:\Windows\System32%%i_BAK.dll /remove *S-1-1-0
)
This is even more drastic Holy shit. I didn't go that far 😄
I hate Microsoft. Windows is main OS for gaming. Windows home gives users barely any control. And Pro is a bit expensive, for a gaming OS.
Major dick move from them.
jagged snow
That's why linux is the future of gaming(maybe)
night girder
That's why linux is the future of gaming(maybe)
we really need it. Anything. We need innovation in OS. It's stagnating. And Microsoft/Apple are too dominant.
jagged snow
we really need it. Anything. We need innovation in OS. It's stagnating. And Micr...
Honestly, as it stands I'll stick with running windows and WSL on my desktop
But for a laptop I'd go linux any day
I feel like that's a big problem in tech in general. There's no longer much innovation in capabilities, mostly just in features that can be used for marketing
And all the while it gets worse in many respects
edgy hazel
night girder
That's not W11. Macified linux distro.
charred pewter
edgy hazel
That's not W11. Macified linux distro.
popOS
dusk rivet
why does this feel like a mix of windows and mac
night girder
What is so far away from it?
👆
charred pewter
night girder
That's W10. The search box I just disabled on my W11. You can have that.
better than that copy paste from macOS.
After how long, 20-30 years of being stubborn with their taskbar aligned to the left. And suddenly they go middle because it's easier for that tablets.
So in other words, Steve Jobs predicted the future (or someone @ Apple did).
I am happy with the taskbar of W11 the way it is, aligned to the left. search disabled.
You say the width doesn't feel right, but every icon has the name of the applicaiton next to it. Fucking up the width.
Why do you need the names of the applications? What's even the point of having distinct icons 😂
disable labels to get fixed width.
They had too. Working towards 1 OS for PC/tablets/phones. To rule em all.
and reduce development costs and lay off people.
2nd of February the vision pro get's released in the US. Predicted price: 3499 dollars.
Has 256GB of storage.
stray badger
is this gnome?
edgy hazel
yes it is it's popOS
charred pewter
cokeOS
tough owl
yes it is it's popOS
🤢
edgy hazel
🤢
installs Ubuntu on the main PC to switch from Windows
Linux users within 500km: “No, why the fuck do you use Gnome and not TwunkOS, a subfork of Arch based on the bastard-0.48 kernel, I hate you so much, kys”
And you google that and the main differences are “The mouse pointer spins in a circle when you press M.”
tough owl
its just not a good place to start imo but its better than windows
edgy hazel
it works really well actually
tough owl
not when I tried it
languid gulch
2nd of February the vision pro get's released in the US. Predicted price: 3499 d...
i give up on tech once it hits used car pricing
gilded helm
I would bet there are places where you can spec a desktop to be more than a new car.
Yep, Googling "top mac pro cost" yields amusing headlines, though I have no idea how they hit those numbers.
Huh, apparently the newer Mac Pro is much more frugal
night girder
just wonder how well the eye controls work.
in one of their PR videos, they have a woman controlling the menu with her eyes. By just looking at an icon, it would select the icon.
languid gulch
oh yea iirc you can get a mac up over $50k
night girder
oh yea iirc you can get a mac up over $50k
Yeah, and this CPU is 16K.
languid gulch
that had better pay for an intel employee to be sleeping next to your system 24/7
dusk rivet
Yeah, and this CPU is 16K.
would this even be better than 9995wx?
(pretty sure i got the model number right)
visual tree
I'm going to kill Asus...
Just realised they leave "access router from wan" on by default so you can remotely control your router through a mobile app
This is a huge security risk though...
Disabled that shit as soon as I figured out. I can control my router remotely even without wan access throught OpenVPN
night girder
7995wx is what i meant
ah, not sure.
dusk rivet
7995wx has more cores, threads, and significantly higher frequency
and you can overclock the 7995wx, but not the xeon 9480
night girder
uhu, I just don't find reliable tests between the two.
dusk rivet
Yeah, i'm just looking at spec comparisons
i guess it's hard to find benchmarks when you're talking about CPU's the price of a decent car
night girder
i guess it's hard to find benchmarks when you're talking about CPU's the price o...
yeah, I mean I read the 9480 can run starfield without RAM. So I don't know the architecture is better or not 🤷♂️
night girder
it's just a proof of how powerful it is.
dusk rivet
if it benefits actual performance that'd be cool, but that statement alone sounds kinda useless
9480 does have 2x the max memory
jagged snow
Either cpu has enough cache to boot a lightweight linux distro
night girder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3SILpv05sE
👆
dusk rivet
working on watching it rn
night girder
sorry, was meant for fight or flight. the video is about booting without DDR5
dusk rivet
that definitely sounds like an advantage, at least afaik there's no dual or triple threadripper boards
night girder
I mean, that's 32K
dusk rivet
server cpu coolers will always look weird till i remember what fans servers use
night girder
I just posted it more as a counter to "Apple can be expensive, 50K".
dusk rivet
they always look so dinky compared to gaming system coolers
night girder
I wanted to point out, that anything can get expensive 😄
jagged snow
that definitely sounds like an advantage, at least afaik there's no dual or trip...
There are dual epyc boards
dusk rivet
but then i remember the strat is to just ram ungodly amounts of air at it
dusk rivet
There are dual epyc boards
oh really? i couldn't ever find any
night girder
@dusk rivet here is the article, take it with a grain of salt: www.techradar.com/pro/intels-most-expensive-cpu-can-run-without-external-ram-and-yes-it-can-play-starfield
dusk rivet
no dual WRX90 boards as far as a quick google search can tell
jagged snow
no dual WRX90 boards as far as a quick google search can tell
That's threadripper, not epyc
Epyc is sp5/lga 6096
dusk rivet
I mean i was specifically talking about the 7995wx which is WRX90
i'll forever be in awe of high end server components
jagged snow
Yeah, there are no dual sTR5 bords
dusk rivet
Ah, i believe that's what i was remembering
does that even pose an actual problem when people use multiple threadrippers?
is there a workaround for splitting loads between multiple threadrippers
jagged snow
You can use a tech like RDMA to get around it, but you'll never have the performance/density of dual cpu boards
dusk rivet
Ah
languid gulch
Just realised they leave "access router from wan" on by default so you can remot...
"your new front door & security gate is installed! we know you're not home right now, so we've just left both wide open for whenever you get home!"
dusk rivet
Oh that's a lot worse than i thought it'd be
jagged snow
Which is still suitable for some applications, but will never be quite as effecient
Rdma typically operates over a 100gbps short-run IP connection
dusk rivet
one day i'll have a home lab, and it will be truly amazing
one day, gotta upgrade my gaming machine first
jagged snow
Hmm, might give this a shot https://github.com/FlickyOs/Adobe-Debloater/blob/main/README.md
I paid for legitimate copies of my adobe stuff but I'm really tired of all their bs bloatware and drm stuff
languid gulch
i feel like detached garages are going to become more popular in the future as people have to transition to full electric cars, but the "omg it'll burn your house down" hype keeps people from wanting them
jagged snow
Honestly, I expect that it'll be at least another 10 years until I transition to an ev, and even then I probably won't have a garage to put it in
dusk rivet
i’d rather have a hydrogen car than an ev given there’s enough places to refuel
jagged snow
I really really hate that we're pushing so hard to transition to fully electric vehicles with battery tech as it is
Plug-in hybrids are the way to go
languid gulch
i want a "dumb" EV. none of the "everything's on one panel" nightmare that teslas are
gilded helm
They won't successfully force an EV transition until years after they get residential buildings to have the connections to charge them. That's way more important than public chargers.
dusk rivet
i hate big ole screens that control everything
a small screen for music, and navigation, then buttons and dials and whatnot for nearly everything else
jagged snow
I don't know anybody that prefers digging through three layers of menus on a screen to turn the defrost on, I don't understand why manufacturers are pushing so hard for it
languid gulch
because when they break, they control nothing, & nothing is in control
dusk rivet
I don't know anybody that prefers digging through three layers of menus on a scr...
cheaper for manufacturers
jagged snow
Especially since it creates an absolute mantineance nightmare
jagged snow
cheaper for manufacturers
There's absolutely no way it's cheaper
languid gulch
cheaper for manufacturers
so would ditching airbags & seatbelts
dusk rivet
a single big screen like tesla’s have is cheaper than loads of buttons
jagged snow
I really doubt that
dusk rivet
at least afaik
languid gulch
cheaper to make, not to sell or maintain
jagged snow
Especially once you consider the fact that they're having to support the backend with their own servers and put in continuous software development for the ecosystem
Especially since they don't support android auto/carplay
languid gulch
& even if it ends up not being cheaper, they're not about to admit fault & then invest in "normal" things like button manufacturing lines in-house
night girder
I paid for legitimate copies of my adobe stuff but I'm really tired of all their...
I understand you. 🖕 bloatware.
languid gulch
if bloatware actually did useful stuff, it'd be nice
night girder
I don't want my software to do it all. I want to cherry pick my software for specific use cases.
jagged snow
Yup
night girder
in same cases I do want to have a lot of features, but it needs to fit my use case. Like photoshop.
languid gulch
true
jagged snow
Package-level control on linux is good for just that reason
night girder
I fully agree.
jagged snow
Adobe doesn't even have the option to disable run on startup for the auth service by default
night girder
I also use a lot of portable apps lately. They don't leave a footprint on the system. Only on the stick. Which I like very much.
for example I use libreoffice portable 😄
languid gulch
or maybe paying for a big sub to one thing also gave you some kind of "mini-sub" to another piece of software you'd either use, or have it be a sub to a premium version of something you usually use as freeware like malwarebytes
night girder
runs pretty well from USB, a but off latency, but I can live with it.
night girder
Adobe doesn't even have the option to disable run on startup for the auth servic...
on mac you can disable that.
For windows, you could check start up apps under taskmanager. And if it's there, disable it.
jagged snow
I already nuked it
languid gulch
charred pewter
new fan insert for desk cubby ...
pushin more air than my old one
and audibly less noise
more assembled shot ... heh
stray badger
legit thought that was a radeon vii at first glance lol
charred pewter
heh!
dusk rivet
higher brightness on an IPS panel will cause greater burn in won't it?
jagged snow
Typically yeah
languid gulch
i wonder when "tech as furniture" is going to make a comeback, like how radios used to be
jagged snow
We already have that to a solid extent with tvs
languid gulch
i do like the picture frame camo around wall mounted TVs to make it look like a portrait or painting
jagged snow
That's one of the biggest advantages I see for transparent tvs too
languid gulch
ok, not that this is happening with my system, but would it be weird to open up the side panel on a "normal" case & have the system run warmer?
twin dew
higher brightness on an IPS panel will cause greater burn in won't it?
IPS panel shouldn't have burn-in.
And with everything but OLED, the backlight is completely separate from the panel.
Higher backlight brightness with LED backlight might cause it to age faster, but that is it.
And the possible panel "burn-in" would be completely separate from backlight.
With OLED, brightness plays part in the burn-in.
As it isn't burn-in as the old term, but just the specific OLEDs dying faster from use.
As OLEDs fade with use.
mental oriole
Thanks
twin dew
In a way that "on" is the default always.
As any other side can just record locally without your knowledge.
And as there is that toggle, no-one will be using the Discord Clips, but just continue to use some other recording solutions.
Because audio recording with some of the people in conversation missing is just weird.
twin dew
Anyways, seems my RAM isn't stable for the ECC chips.
As in the worst chip is one of the ECC chips, which I cannot properly test at this time, as the AM5 AGESA doesn't support reporting RAM ECC errors.
Just swallows corrected errors and reboots on uncorrected ones.
So now to poke in the dark until the reboots stop.
Raised all primaries by 2 steps and set tRAS and tRC to the theoretical values as first stab.
And if that runs for long enough, will step back to previous and start to test which one(s) cause the issue.
languid gulch
can't wait for Airbus' next ad:
"Airbus, we don't have loose bolts"
twin dew
Boeing moved first some and IIRC now all 737 production to new facility in Charleston from Seattle to break the power of the union.
And that factory has had quality control problems since start, which haven't been fixed at any point, just changed places all the time.
night girder
I don't understand duckduckgo sometimes. Why is the first hit search result even there? It doesn't even have the word tweaker in it 😒
And I though duckduckgo didn't do paid based search results, aka companies pay to get on top of the search results.
twin dew
No, that was for 787?
I thought that the 737 had been split too and then moved only to there.
twin dew
But did TM5 for much longer on the +2 on all primaries, and then crashed soon again when dropped them back.
So just need to find which one is the problem.
neon forum
Is rx 7900 xtx worth it, i have rx 6950 xt, also rtx 4080 super is coming out i thought about that too
dire igloo
And I though duckduckgo didn't do paid based search results, aka companies pay t...
iirc they do - they just base it off of the search itself and not your search history and general browsing behavior
night girder
iirc they do - they just base it off of the search itself and not your search hi...
it's just weird, it doesn't contain the keyword. The second hit should be on top. imo.
dire igloo
weird, if I turn location-based search on and then off, it disappears
night girder
I still prefer duckduckgo then google 😄 But when I can't find what I need, I just add !g to the query 😛
dire igloo
I selected USA (English) and it went away
dire igloo
I still prefer duckduckgo then google 😄 But when I can't find what I need, I ju...
there's Ecosia, idk how well it works as a search engine tho
dire igloo
I selected USA (English) and it went away
turned it back on, now it's back - with three more
twin dew
Seems that tRCD cannot be 36 but needs to be 37 or 38.
But need to confirm.
night girder
And now Baldur sucks me into the RAM rabit-hole.
So for 16-18-18-38, if there is no active row, it's tRCD + CL. So that means a minum of 34 cycles?
and if the wrong row is open, it's a minimum of 52 cycles?
twin dew
tRAS minimum is usually said to be tRCD(Read) + tRTP (Read to Precharge Delay).
night girder
correct row (CL) - no row (tRCD) - wrong row (tRP) - refresh (tRAS), I mean that's the gist of it?
twin dew
Yes.
Because the tRTP is usually shorter than tCL.
And you can in some cases close the opened row without ever addressing any columns, if the memory controller changes decision.
night girder
It's weird that precharge is the word they use for closing rows.
twin dew
When you read some address, the contents are destroyed.
And need to be rewritten back (precharge).
Ah, sorry, precharge is where the memory cell is loaded with voltage to halfway point between the 0 and 1.
And then the actual write then just needs to bias to right direction.
night girder
it's putting the rows in idle state. And data is stored in idle banks.
pure karma
trying to learn literally anything from what you guys are saying and i think this is just out of my range by a longshot
night girder
trying to learn literally anything from what you guys are saying and i think thi...
I am just learning myself here. gamersnexus.net/guides/3333-memory-timings-defined-cas-latency-trcd-trp-tras + en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_timings
twin dew
Yes, precharging the cell to the "empty" state, that is at half the VDDQ voltage.
And then the 0 and 1 states are on either side of that, often lower voltage is 1, and higher voltage is 0.
But not sure with DRAM, and that can be implementation specific.
pure karma
there is one thing i learned from here so far atleast and its the difrence between MT/s and MHZ
night girder
and another thing that seems important is that CL is fixed. While others are minimum values.
pure karma
and i guess also the fact that the B maters in all size mesurements (MB,Mb)
night girder
CL needs to be fixed value between memory controller and memory.
night girder
and i guess also the fact that the B maters in all size mesurements (MB,Mb)
Yeah, that's a "gotcha" trap.
anyway, be back later have to go 👋
jagged snow
Thanks Intel: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/intel-freshens-up-its-old-laptop-and-desktop-cpus-with-speed-bumps-new-names/
We aren't even going to talk about the phrase "Intel Core Processors (Series 1) U-series Processors," a sequence of seven words that includes both "series" and "processors" twice.
twin dew
*Whops* Has typoed tCL as 20 and not intended 30...
No wonder the system didn't post...
twin dew
Yeah...
Finishing things.
Might be physically capable to start actually assembling it in few weeks.
night girder
Only took you what? 2-3 months? 😄
narrow folio
so it's running on an open bench so far?
twin dew
Only took you what? 2-3 months? 😄
Since the 7800X3D was launched?
I was 2-5:th on the line in Finland to be sent one.
twin dew
so it's running on an open bench so far?
In wrong case right now.
Was as open bench for months, then had to use it for work for one day in fall and put it into case.
Need to install it into the case of the computer I'm currently using as the main one.
night girder
Satis better run like a charm
twin dew
Like I have said, could run Taros save at 90-100FPS if the GPU was up to snuff.
night girder
Or what is the idea? I guess gaming/benching
twin dew
New main computer, with the current main heading to be the secondary for now.
Hoping to get Ryzen 5600 and some more ECC DDR4 at some point and put the 5600 into the server instead of Ryzen Pro 4650G and use that CPU and 16GB of RAM for the secondary.
Got 4x 8GB 1R 3200MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMMs in the server right now.
night girder
Cool 😎
Next weekend my old PC is going to my niece and nephew. Have to replace a fan and clean OS. Dust it out and should be good.
Don’t regret it. Can’t keep everything. Rather let them have fun with it.
Although a spare mobo/case and such wouldn’t be bad for open benching and goofing around :p
twin dew
Anyways, running TM5 with ABSOLUT anta777 with 6000MT/s 30-38-38-30-40 and 2200MHz FCLK.
30-36-38-30-40 was rebooting from uncorrected RAM ECC errors.
Been hoping that AMD would add the IF and RAM MCE reporting support...
But no dice so far.
That 30-36-38 worked without ECC, but that doesn't use two of the chips per stick.
And seems at least one of those couldn't do tRCD 36.
night girder
. I still need to check if my system is stable with auto FLCK
twin dew
Don't do auto, just start raising it in steps.
night girder
In theory it should. Totally forgot with holidays and being sick.
night girder
Don't do auto, just start raising it in steps.
I mean auto is letting Asrock decide. Mobo had wonky values anyway.
night girder
Don't do auto, just start raising it in steps.
You think putting it on auto can brick it?
My idea: auto. If crash: back to current value anf raisinh
twin dew
Danger that it will set it to that 2000MHz even on retries and you cannot get into the BIOS to change it back down.
So starting to raise it in steps until instability or hitting that 2000MHz is safer.
Trying first 1900, then 1933, then 1967, then 2000.
With one week of use between steps.
tribal kraken
Air force having fun I see. Feels good to pay the fuel as tax 😅
twin dew
Each pilot needs to have certain amount of flight hours each month anyways, no matter what they do while in the air.
And might have been about changing arrival time too.
tribal kraken
Yeah I don't mind. I've been their practice target too with a tractor on wide open dried peat plantation. Their did dive attacks towards the equipment there
night girder
what mobo is that?
edgy hazel
Anyone know what this means
🟧
night girder
check device manager -> computer, what does it say there?
stray badger
Anyone know what this means
if the computer doesnt work, then my guess is GPU error, if it does work, then it means nothing is wrong
night girder
check device manager -> computer, what does it say there?
do this. Once you know mobo. Download the manual and look what the light means.
hardy forge
Alright
night girder
it seems to be a motherboard led, weird place though ...
stray badger
i was troubleshooting an old PC with an x79 sabertooth and it used those lights to show what part is being being tested on boot. if one started blinking then it means that that part is not working
night girder
have you secured all the cables
Is the noise continuous or does it stop after warming up?
sound like dying fan.
night girder
you were buying new GPU anyway so, all good I think? 😄
depends on age of GPU and useage I guess?
my friend, what are you complaining about 😂
edgy hazel
just replace the fans with a waterblock
night girder
doesn't sound like MSI is a bad brand just because your 8 years old GPU with 10K hours in WoW has one bad fan now ...
don't unless you want to OC and benchmark.
imho, you looking a bit too much into it 😄 The hardware just ran it course it sounds.
or you abused it 😛
edgy hazel
msi is just trash
night girder
no experience with it. Current brands in use: XFX. AMD. Asrock. Lian Li. Lexar. Seasonic and Patriot.
night girder
if not mistaken, it's also pretty cheap?
asus releasing 4090 without power chords.
you need BTF mobo though.
edgy hazel
msi died for me when I found out that they make these shit brown motherboards
night girder
I don't get why BTF isn't a standard. Would solve the spaghetti in cases.
Look how clean it looks:
uhu
btf: back to the future.
Republic of Gamers = ROG
tuf sounds weird, because of my language. It translate to english "spit" or "spitting".
TUF is their lower end models
and ROG their high end stuff.
night girder
To open the book of necromancy, you need a gem. 🕷️ 🕸️
the 🕷️emoticon is so nice in darkmode.
stinger?
Why? Arachnophobia?
that's a dangerous precedent.
visual tree
Anyone noticed amazon keeps changing shipping cost for an identical item over time?
Last week, shipping cost for meta quest 3 was around €44 and now it's €15. 👀
Either they messed up shipping cost calculation or they are trying to charge people extra
night girder
different depot?
visual tree
I thought shipping cost for an identical item (shipped by amazon) stays the same over time (with slight variations)
First time i've noticed such a big difference in shipping cost over a period of 1 to 2 weeks
stray badger
xfx is pretty solid imo
sapphire is good too
serene charm
Sapphire used to be good, they have one of the highest rate of returns now dont they?
Not sure where i heard it but fairly certain
jagged snow
Then & xfx but they're also probably the best about customer support
So it could be that they're offering more returns as well
serene charm
Xfx are good and usually cheap
night girder
happy I got an xfx then 😄
jagged snow
They are
My latest xfx card does have one semi-major problem but it's shared by models from a few other aib
night girder
They are
My latest xfx card does have one semi-major problem but it's shared by ...
don't just say that. What's the problem?
jagged snow
I'm linking to it, one sec
serene charm
Ive got an ichill inno3D rtx 3080, never heard of them but got 4 fans and rgb and runs great
jagged snow
@night girder #off-topic-tech message
ASRock and Asus cards also have that problem for sure, possibly others
I believe it is limited to specific models from each manufacturer, but can't verify for sure
dire igloo
TUF is their lower end models
prime is low end, then tuf, then ROG
dire igloo
Xfx are good and usually cheap
ASRock are also great for AMD.
Can't confirm the Sapphire return rate, from past experience even their "lowend" Pulse beat a lot of other products
For the highend sector, PowerColor Red Devil - their Hellhound sucks tho
stray badger
Ive got an ichill inno3D rtx 3080, never heard of them but got 4 fans and rgb an...
inno3d is european iirc
stray badger
ASRock are also great for AMD.
Can't confirm the Sapphire return rate, from past...
my friend has a pulse 6600, super well made, runs great, runs very quiet and very cool
i dream of a nitro+ 7800xt
stray badger
Anyone noticed amazon keeps changing shipping cost for an identical item over ti...
probably based on which warehouses have the item at that time
visual tree
At least you can save some money on shipping cost. I only buy certain items from amazon because returns are simple when something goes wrong.
Here, local businesses will make any excuse not to respect your warranty....
twin dew
PCIe 5.0 SSD with integrated water cooler...
www.pcgamer.com/i-dont-know-whether-to-be-afraid-or-impressed-by-this-pcie-50-ssd-with-a-tiny-liquid-cooler-attached/
edgy hazel
I store my precious family photos in a secure location called the idk-cloud. Are they in onedrive? Google photos? The magic ether? I do not know. They just keep reappearing on my phone when I wipe it.
languid gulch
i finally had the experience of "my phone case saved my phone"
dropped it on bare concrete from hip height trying to put it in my pocket
hard part of the case cracked, phone's fine
dusk rivet
PCIe 5.0 SSD with integrated water cooler...
www.pcgamer.com/i-dont-know-whethe...
why
ssd’s are one of the things where high temps really aren’t a big problem
at most a little motherboard heat sink is needed
even that is usually unnecessary
twin dew
Partly because the current PCIe 5.0 SSD controllers have very high heat output themselves, but that one is pure overkill even then. 🤷
All so far have had some kind of active cooling.
dusk rivet
it’s like seeing your phone gets a little toasty, so you attach a car radiator to it
dusk rivet
All so far have had some kind of active cooling.
Didn’t know that, i haven’t really kept up with the most recent ssd’s
twin dew
That is just the most overkill I have seen, most have just been heatpipe heatsink + small fan.
dusk rivet
how does one even fit that monstrosity in their pc
we’ve come full circle, now we just need AIO motherboards
aio cpu, aio gpu, aio ssd, next is the aio motherboard
edgy hazel
i finally had the experience of "my phone case saved my phone"
I love glass protectors
Put em on everything
That was from yesterday
dusk rivet
welp
dusk rivet
i love the taste of iron after eating pizza
jagged snow
aio cpu, aio gpu, aio ssd, *next is the aio motherboard*
They still sell vrm blocks for many boards
The big difference is the abscence of northbridge, which was the most important thing to cool after vrms
So there's not nearly as much that makes it worth it
And modern power delivery systems have achieved a significantly higher degree of effeciency, making active colling unnececary even in systems delivering 300+ w to the cpu
jagged snow
Yeah, I got that
I was just rambling
dusk rivet
Love a good ramble
torpid plaza
im trying to settle an argument, a friend claims the darmoshark m3s is heavily inspired by mice from razer and logitech.
kinda looks like if razer deathradder and logitech G wireless had a deasise wridden baby
heres a the razer deathadder as an example and the darmoshark m3s on the right, what do yall think?
and a logitech g pro wireless
twin dew
DeathAdder base form is from Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer line.
Which got copied by Razer for DeathAdders, and by Zowie for EC-line etc.
And I really don't see much commonality between the two.
Would need to see side-pic too to make sure.
jagged snow
The darmoshark looks very similar to a g403
torpid plaza
heres the shapes
twin dew
But the palm-area is way different between the DeathAdder and the other one.
Yup, completely different form.
Back is close between the M3s and the Logitech, but the front is different form between them.
night girder
That's a hard question. When do two mouse look similar (how do we measure that)? To me, a lot of gaming mouses look the same. To me these two mouses look different
jagged snow
I've recently been daily-driving Firefox on mobile and it's so much better than chrome, safari, or any other mobile browser I've used
It's pretty close on desktop but it's by far the best on mobile
night girder
But I don't think there is a valid way into measuring how different or how same a mouse model is.
Unless you have these in mind.
twin dew
Unfortunately doesn't contain the actual original IntelliMouse shape.
But these three are very close to each other.
Little changes at the front end, but the shape is very close.
So these two are very close to each other, if one is good in your hands, the other will be almost identical.
And the DeathAdder V3 is just minor tweak from the V2:
Button style has changed from being part of the top-cover to being separate parts, but that isn't really relevant to anything.
twin dew
heres the shapes
These three have so major differences in the shape, that you cannot know if the other two will work for you, even if one of them does, without testing.
Sorry, didn't remember to remove the ping.
torpid plaza
no i love getting pings dw. genuinely
dusk rivet
@torpid plaza
torpid plaza
: )
charred pewter
anyone have their own rememdies for a mouse casing that 'creaks' when you push your thumb against it? like plastic squeaking on plastic kind of feeling/noise ...
i'd like to avoid trying to unscrew it apart... since screws are located under the mouse feet, and the moment you disturb feet they never lay flat again and scratch on the pad forever
narrow folio
WD40 😉
charred pewter
ha
languid gulch
something like that is only a temp fix. only solution is to dig in there & remove the material causing the rubbing/squeaking
jagged snow
What do you all think of what we've seen at CES so far?
languid gulch
only stuff i've seen so far has been the samsung microLED transparent tv & the hoverbike
oh and that new HP laptop
PS5s with different colors aren't all that exciting to me
jagged snow
You might think this is cool: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/detachable-lenovo-laptop-is-two-separate-computers-runs-windows-and-android/
languid gulch
You might think this is cool: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/detachable...
i like the concept, but i also know myself & one of those pieces would break or disappear in about a week 🤣
edgy hazel
It's been a solid 5 years
Wait NO! Its ALIIIIIVEEEE
what is happening. It keeps turning on/off like someone is really inconsistent at CPR
Well it's time for a new keyboard
languid gulch
i've been absolutely loving my hexgears
granted, it's my first mechanical, but it feels great after a few months of use
night girder
i've been absolutely loving my hexgears
looking into it. US. Nevermind.
This is their highest value product. 4.01 short of being of free shipping 🖕
Ducky's Outlaw* 65 looks dope. DIY keyboard.
🤤
edgy hazel
edgy hazel
Got myself the K10
languid gulch
detachable wrist rest is great, it lasts a solid week between charges, backlighting is plenty decent
edgy hazel
Sadly the only switch that was available for me is brown. (And red but I don't fw red)
languid gulch
yea idc about a lot of the rainbow unicorn puke options these days
night girder
detachable wrist rest is great, it lasts a solid week between charges, backlight...
wrist rests are great yeah
night girder
yea idc about a lot of the rainbow unicorn puke options these days
don't care for rgb on my keyboard tbh 😄 never look at my keyboard anyway 🤷♂️
edgy hazel
yea idc about a lot of the rainbow unicorn puke options these days
I need it so I can set it to blue like my other stuff
languid gulch
& it's spring loaded hard points, not a magnetic wrist rest
night girder
euh, my corsair has a wrist rest that snapped on. It's removable, but it's not magnetic.
it kinda clicks into the keyboard.
edgy hazel
But tbh white would be more than enough. I just need a keyboard that maybe lasts longer than 5 years
languid gulch
I need it so I can set it to blue like my other stuff
oh yea for themes i can definitely see the usage, i just tend towards blackout
night girder
White keyboard, hard to keep clean 😂
languid gulch
here the dirt & dust is light color so white is usually better
edgy hazel
My G513s wristrest is not attached at all, but it'll still be used with the new one
Its one of those nice soft leather ones
night girder
here the dirt & dust is light color so white is usually better
It doesn't mean it's not dirty, you just don't see it. Even worse imo.
night girder
keeping my keyboard clean is a nightmare. One freaking day and I spot dust 😄
night girder
languid gulch
basically
night girder
makes a bit of noise though :p
but like, the best results is still when I fully take of the keys and clean it.
night girder
I use headphones to protect my ears 😂
languid gulch
plus i don't like using compressed air for that kind of thing, too much moisture condenses out for it to be safe
filling tires? sure
night girder
I have no moisture.
edgy hazel
makes a bit of noise though :p
pffffft... pffffffffft... TETETETETETETETETETE
night girder
languid gulch
cheater
edgy hazel
Anyways, hope keychron is good
languid gulch
yea, lemme know how it is
night girder
New lexar SSD. PCIE 5.0 + RGB fans.
Micron TLC-nand
Didn't know SSD's needed heatsink with fans Cool gimmick though.
To RGB up your PC even more.
languid gulch
here i am, proud of finally having 2x gen3 NVMe drives
night girder
Lexar made me pretty happy with its 790, ngl.