off-topic-tech

[full tide]

SO I GET foggy monitor WHILE i play SF

and my middle mouse thing is not working

[edgy hazel]

only SF?

[full tide]

i think

[edgy hazel]

then #1038092680493801533

[full tide]

and my PC goes into lock mod

*mode like middle click i mean

[charred pewter]

no idea what you are on, but can i have some?

[full tide]

why

@charred pewter

[charred pewter]

if you got weird issues in SF, best to ask in the SF channels 🙂

[charred pewter]

whatever you are describing, ive never heard of before.... in any game... on any os ....

[night girder]

well, if you computer is acting funky. You are in the right place.

[edgy hazel]

you never hotboxed your game?

[full tide]

thats why i am in here

[night girder]

If it's only satisfactory acting funky. Then what Herg said.

[charred pewter]

yes, i play while in the sauna 😄

[night girder]

Got a spare mouse by any chance? Try to see if it happens with another mouse if possible.

[charred pewter]

well, confirm its in other games too... then come on back 😄

[edgy hazel]

and considering it's mouse **and ** screen it's prolly game

[full tide]

and its acting like i double click

[charred pewter]

check your mouse drivers, or re-install them

[night girder]

honestly, this could be a mouse issue (hardware, old, defect, ...)

[edgy hazel]

the foggy screen too?

[charred pewter]

i know if my razer software 'loads twice' ... i get weird double-action behaviors... even in windows start menu

[night girder]

if your most starts to double click, it might be dying 😂

[night girder]

the two don't have to be related 🙂 But can be.

[charred pewter]

no idea on a foggy screen

[full tide]

its so annoyng and pc locks ccrtl altelete d

[edgy hazel]

yeah game crashes

[night girder]

foggy screen more sounds like a graphic setting 😂

[charred pewter]

turn off volumetric fog ? 😄

[night girder]

too low resolution, FSR, ...

[edgy hazel]

nah it's the not responding white-ish

[night girder]

Well, I was thinking they meant foggy as in blurry.

and not real foggy, as in white smoke inside the screen 😂

[charred pewter]

or foggy as in hazy

[night girder]

else you might need to get a chimney for your monitor

[edgy hazel]

if ctrl-alt-del don't work it's a crash

foggy screen would be the trasparent white you get

the not responding one

[charred pewter]

so, game in 'unresponsive' state, trying to switch to it, presents the game window, but with a white 50% overlay

[full tide]

the crtl alt delete is where i unlock my pc

its so annoying

[edgy hazel]

bro you've been collecting issues?

[full tide]

kinda idk

[night girder]

@full tide If you make a topic in #1038092680493801533, try to see if you can make a photo of your screen for the fog.

[edgy hazel]

wipe that and reinstall windows. Fixing that would actually kill this chat for everyone for the next 5-6 hours

making tech-talk into tech-support again

[night girder]

Also make sure you do the basic 101 emergency stuff: update windows, update drivers 🙂

[night girder]

also, we don't say it to be dicks, questions-and-help is just more organized way in helping people since everything stays in a topic.

[edgy hazel]

nah I do it 😄

read the channel description

[full tide]

done

[night girder]

What's the best way to contact a moderator to whitelist an url?

[edgy hazel]

@ them here

one that's online preferable

[gilded helm]

The experiments with these Lisen USB cables continue. They're working again now.

I'm not sure if I'd rather they didn't work at all.

[edgy hazel]

last one I got whitelisted:

[gilded helm]

I think we were talking about this the other day how fundamentally these are just a bunch of copper and connectors and they should just work dammit.

But I guess the logic for talking to power interfaces properly is just complicated enough to be an issue occasionally.

[charred pewter]

yeah, sometimes i'd rather something just outright "not work" instead of ... "oh wait, its working now...... but.... is it gonna be right? corrupting? fire?"

[gilded helm]

Heh, I talked them into throwing away fraying USB cables at the bar I'm working right now. They work 90% of the time, but because they're so beat to crap, I can tell they're a non-zero fire risk.

[night girder]

know that feeling

[maiden coyote]

Would rather see smoke than something sometimes work. Easier to fix

[edgy hazel]

brother if your electronics smoke there is no fixing it

[night girder]

replace / send for repair

[edgy hazel]

like yes you could replace the part but shit being fucked down the line is very likely

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/nostalgic-christmas-brooke-dorsay-dont-jinx-it-gif-27461343

Baldur helped me out.

we discovered that for some reason, the MOBO was overclocked 😒

setting everything to auto and FLCK to 1730MHz seems to fix it. If I set FLCK to auto, It,s 2000MHz. Still need to test out if that's stable or not with everything set to auto now.

[edgy hazel]

you know the so-called golden sample?

Lettedief got the stone sample

[night girder]

maybe it was a returned mobo 😒 Or a BIOS update being weird.

ASRock

[edgy hazel]

more like assrock

[night girder]

it says pro in it

ASRock B650M PRO RS

[edgy hazel]

proficient at crashing

[night girder]

it was just eager 😂

[edgy hazel]

the RS is for regrettable sale

[night girder]

nah, don't regret it

[edgy hazel]

nah msi is for getting their ugly ass brown boards

[night girder]

149.00 euro

[edgy hazel]

for like 60 bucks

[night girder]

it's a good board

... relative to that, it's cheap

[edgy hazel]

current price:

[night girder]

needed AM5

[edgy hazel]

we all know that this was the most important part

still pissed my 7900xt didn't come with stickers

[night girder]

kinda done with asus.

[edgy hazel]

I ain't

didn't have any negative experiences yet. Shit works well

and they always give me stickers

CONTRARY TO OTHER BRANDS

[night girder]

you pay for them, it's in the price

[stray badger]

Yes

[night girder]

yeah had one

[near veldt]

Just finished changing pc chasis and holy was it dirty

[edgy hazel]

wtf

I am hereby, on behalf of #off-topic-tech, revoking your PC privilege.

[near veldt]

Odd thing is really didn’t overheat have a ryzen 7950x ran at around 60 idle

[edgy hazel]

I may or not be a sticker person

[night girder]

cyberpunk one is dopest, got it too 😛

[edgy hazel]

too sexy for you

[night girder]

enable the fans, check cpu usage

doing what?

[edgy hazel]

okay wtf

it gave me one picture

need the new semPCs SEXX processor

https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases

use this. Simple, free

nvm they used to be open why the fuck did they close it

but it's still very good

done a repaste/remount already?

or just do the wiggle?

[dire igloo]

Lack of contact frame?

[edgy hazel]

12th gen need a contact frame?

[dire igloo]

Any LGA1700 does

[edgy hazel]

bro wtf is intel DOING

[dire igloo]

They didn't redo the retention system

[dire igloo]

Most lower end chips can get away without one for the simple reason of not producing enough heat

But the i5-1_600K already benefits from it while not needing it and any i7 or i9 basically needs one

Not that, that's AM5 with their thick af IHS.

The lga1700 retention system has a design flaw which causes the CPU to bend and coolers with a flat coldplate to have poor contact - which leads to overheating

[edgy hazel]

bro the 5800x3d already makes me want to do direct die cooling

Idk why we even still do IHSs

It still fucks over most CPUs so why should I

Benchmarking, yes. It's not the best by a long shot. But day to day, gaming, working, it's still insane for me

[night girder]

so should you 😂

[edgy hazel]

Yeah 12th Gen wtf you on about @inner shale

[night girder]

the GPU

[edgy hazel]

That was one chart

[night girder]

👉 1660ti 👈

[edgy hazel]

I know people still on a 1050 TI

[night girder]

go amd maxeek 😄

[edgy hazel]

I still have my 760 tucked away somewhere

[night girder]

go arc

Intel isn't bad

don't think frigid has any issues with 14700

except the weird core behavior

[edgy hazel]

maybe get a thermaright cooler

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-hank-waterspray-shootself-gif-3461149

only thing intel is fixing is their pricing

[night girder]

14 is still LGA1700 no?

[edgy hazel]

Yea

[sharp oasis]

Mmmm I hate this. I don't get warranty bc I bought a series older.

And broke the warranty seal

To repaste

[edgy hazel]

repasting is a warranty killer

[sharp oasis]

Not always

Usa its not

And some areas of Canada

But obviously not my area

[edgy hazel]

cool now it's your obligation to prove the damage wasn't done by you

[sharp oasis]

It doesn't matter. I live in Alberta I donr have the protections that Quebec does

Hence why they dont have to

[maiden coyote]

I think the company has to prove you damaged it

[edgy hazel]

not after disassembly

[maiden coyote]

Either way. I like how burns isn't covered. But if the card decided to smoke itself you're sol

[sharp oasis]

Counts as CID I can still send it and fight to get it repaired.

[sharp oasis]

Yeah that's fucked

I'm prolly not buying asrock again

[edgy hazel]

I love EU warranty laws but even those have limits.

[sharp oasis]

Man now I wanna live in the eu

Fuck me $450 possibly lost

[atomic knoll]

Can I offer my services for free on troubleshooting the connectivity issues?

[edgy hazel]

You are simply just not able to do warranty if the consumer does their repair themselves and the claims warranty after.

[night girder]

no you don't

[atomic knoll]

I specialize in cloud based hosting,networking and security.

[edgy hazel]

wtf u on about

[sharp oasis]

Doing basic maintenance shouldn't void a warranty

[atomic knoll]

I'm a bad ass and I want to help fix what ever is holding up me and my friends playing together.

There are steam issues or some other variety of connetivity issues preventing us from playing together.

[edgy hazel]

basic maintenance is cleaning. The die is a very sensitive part

[night girder]

yeah, they rather want the hardware to die so you have to buy another one. Or so it feels.

[edgy hazel]

go to #1038092680493801533

[night girder]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1187864429199642686

[sharp oasis]

Cleaning often includes disassembly

At least for me.

[dusk rivet]

also it's legit already fixed

[sharp oasis]

I take the heat sink off and air dust it with a compressor

So I donr da mag the pcb at all

Damage*

[edgy hazel]

again. Disassembling a gpu and reassembling it can lead to damage fairly easy. No warranty will cover that

[night girder]

so they rather want it to overheat?

[sharp oasis]

Doutably. If the gpu functioned fine after reassembly

[edgy hazel]

that's an RMA issue

[sharp oasis]

Until about five minutes of full load stress later it failed

Welp

[atomic knoll]

Sounds like should be offering free help to epic games.

Likely they are under a holiday distributed attack of some kind.

Yay extortion

[sharp oasis]

Off to buy a new gpu ig

[edgy hazel]

you already disassembled it. Please prove that you didn't damage anything. You can try going the warranty route, but I doubt it'll get you far

[atomic knoll]

Ok so this is mainly a hardware "tech" channel?

[night girder]

yes

[sharp oasis]

I could send it to them and say I did not damage anything in the cleaning

As if I did the gpu should have not even booted post cleaning

Not failed after stress

[edgy hazel]

no the GPU can still very much boot and fail after stressing it

[sharp oasis]

And a visual inspection afterwards shows no physical damage

I'll prolly have to sell off my current phone and but a new gpu :/

[edgy hazel]

Sorry but don't get your hopes up with warranty

[sharp oasis]

Yeah

[edgy hazel]

It's not looking good imo

[sharp oasis]

Still worth a shot

Might get a buddies old 6700XT

It's XFX so

I'd just have to survive on a 1660s for a wile

And that's not fun

[sharp oasis]

Spent weeks trying to get a responce

Fuuuck

[night girder]

maybe wait a little bit more and push them after the holidays?

[sharp oasis]

They responded

I can send it in for inspection

Bur the seal is broken

Counts as CID

[edgy hazel]

yup. So either you suck it up or go through gov

[dusk rivet]

those stickers are technically non-enforcable aren't they?

[edgy hazel]

That's the government part

[dusk rivet]

which is because the company will enforce them anyways and you'll have to get the government involved to rectify it?

[edgy hazel]

Non enforceable by law

And law always means you have to go through some court/legal process outside of the company

Which may either take time or money

Or both

Idk how the legal options are over there

[dusk rivet]

probably would be small claims court

which could mean lawyer or no lawyer, really depends

[edgy hazel]

I paid like 500€ for a lawyer to send a letter once

Shit sucks

[sharp oasis]

Prolly too expensive

[edgy hazel]

but again, I don't know the shit over there. Warranty is pretty universal, only thing that really changes is the duration

[pure karma]

hating it too rain in december for canada is the most depresing garbage lol

yea not this year +10 this whole week now gonna be a rainny 0 next week

[edgy hazel]

brother we don't got -40 here

munich can get blocked off

[charred pewter]

we wont here, just rain 4 days straight

[pure karma]

yea climate change hitting hard bruh

it snowed on haloween morning but dident snow at all for november or december like bruh what

[sharp oasis]

Sending in the gpu to a repair shop

Let's hope

[twin dew]

ASRock is for some reason doing pretty significant FCLK OC as "stock" on that MB with the BIOS version in use.
1733MHz is the stock, 2000MHz is the "This should work in almost all CPUs" max OC, and ASRock is trying to use it as default...

[sharp oasis]

@twin dew your probably not awake but how much wattage can I cut off a 7900x without major prefomance loss

[twin dew]

No idea?
Test?

[sharp oasis]

Aight

As I need to try to get it to stit stable on a lower wattage

Bc the air cooler my buddy has it rigged too can't handle full temp

He's buying a stronger cooler soon

95w he can handle

But loses a lot of frequency

Trying 115w

I have a few degrees of thermal headroom

@twin dew why is the cpu not allowing all cores to run

It's only allowing 5 per ccd

Or one ccd at auto and the other at 7

Could it be wattage limits

It's still only using half the cpu

6 cores

Fixed it

Gaming profile forced the second ccx to be deactivated

It can manage 150w and keep most to all it's pref

And the cooler can barely tame it

[edgy hazel]

my stealth fans should be coming in a few days let's goooo

[edgy hazel]

I mean they're 30€ a pop

[dire igloo]

Better than T30 or P28?

Wait, are those the Alphacool metal fans?

[edgy hazel]

ye

so sexy

[dire igloo]

Noctua aren't even the best on the market before comparing to these

Lian Li Unifans P28 and Phanteks T30 are

P28 win noise-normalized, but T30 can reach a higher peak

[edgy hazel]

yup. Noctuas prices include proper wages, research and branding

plus the fuck-you fee when you want them in black

[dire igloo]

And LTT sponsorships

[edgy hazel]

I mean all done that

[dire igloo]

Also, not like Phanteks and Lian Li are garbage brands either

[dire igloo]

Except Thermalright cuz money spent on marketing is money not spent on engineering

idek if Noctua pays proper wages

And their research department is eeeeeeh given what the competition is able to produce

[edgy hazel]

there is a difference in price when researching in the EU vs china

[dire igloo]

I don't care where the research is done, I just care if it's good research or not

fwiw the engineer can sit on the Bahamas slurping a cocktail if it makes them design a good fan

[edgy hazel]

yeah and the thermalright researchers prolly live in a 3m² apartment

[dire igloo]

I'm not referring to them

They're meant to design cheap stuff that's good.
Not stuff that performs well

So cost efficiency is a big factor

[edgy hazel]

I'm just saying, if you buy cheap you support cheap wages

it's just a moral issue

[dire igloo]

Yeah fine

But I was talking about high end fans, not cheap fans

No point in buying Noctua in today's day and age except for aesthetics reasons

Good value? TL-C12C or if unavailable P12
Good performance? T30, P28 or if constricted to 25mm, SWP4

[edgy hazel]

where do you even buy thermalright stuff that isn't sold by some shady ass amazon account?

[twin dew]

Because Noctua has been trying to create the new perfect fan for 9 years?
And just had to redo the final molds to add more corner strength to account for overtightening on radiators.

[dire igloo]

Shipped by Amazon tho

[twin dew]

With through the fan long screws.

[dire igloo]

Mindfactory used to have them, but not the new stuff

[dire igloo]

This better be good

[edgy hazel]

that's a bit of a red flag tbh

[dire igloo]

Eh

Mindfactory doesn't have Asus either

[edgy hazel]

no that means too much RMA

[dire igloo]

Mindfactory are really shitty about their RMA

[dire igloo]

Or they couldn't find an agreement with the supplier

[twin dew]

Nah, even the official retailers have trouble getting Thermalright to actually deliver something...
And Mindfactory isn't one of those...

[dire igloo]

Btw, who is it for Germany?

[twin dew]

Distributor for Germany is Ultron AG.
Retailers listed as:

ACom
Alternate
ARLT
Compuland

[dire igloo]

Dang

[twin dew]

Ah, more, long list.

Mindfactory is on that reseller list

www.thermalright.com/where-to-buy/resellers/germany/?submit=view

But basically the companies need to work with Ultron as middleman in Germany.

[dire igloo]

Alternate doesn't even list any Thermalright products

[twin dew]

And Thermalright seems to be very bad at actually delivering stuff to the EU distributors.

[dire igloo]

Not even "out of stock". No listing in the first place

[twin dew]

So resellers haven't had anything to sell for long time, so they have dropped the listings.

[dire igloo]

Wait, they own Nanoxia and Cooltek

TIL, used to recommend Nanoxia's sound proofed cases

[twin dew]

Which would explain things.
But why hasn't Thermalright then switched distributor...

[dire igloo]

According to this article I've found they're also exclusive distributor for Arctic Silver

They use Computerhandels GmbH as an in-between platform for Thermalright

[sand saddle]

As far as heatsinks go, pretty hard for them to go bad over time, it's more likely to be defective from the start and amazon returns are decent.
Fans, ig kinda... but even then you could buy their 40€ heatsink and some premium fans and it's still cheaper than competitors or better performance.
With AIOs I could see quality concerns
Haven't recommended any of their PSUs yet, no matter the brand, I want proper reviews. TG1200 is good.
The cheap labor argument is relevant for nearly all brands, most of them want profit over morals. Noctua products are still produced in China/Taiwan unless smth has changed.

[wanton orchid]

what fan are you talking about ?

[dire igloo]

the one they hinted on at CES last year (I think it was last year)

Imagine making a consumer electronics show and it's industry/press only

[edgy hazel]

time to start backing up all my shit from my phone and find a way to save all my authenticators

lineage os I'm coming

[gilded helm]

So I think instead of getting a plain cheap NVME enclosure I'm just going to go backshit crazy and get one of those fancy Thunderbolt docks that also has every sort of port you could imagine in addition to an NVMe bay

[maiden coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UShD03eG9IU

[edgy hazel]

bro that looks sci-fi as FUCK

[maiden coyote]

Yeah. Rocket engine tests.

[night girder]

where can I download schematics so I can print my own rocket?

[maiden coyote]

You'd need a laser something something smelting printer

After that I'm sure nasa will be happy to give you the stls

[night girder]

sweet, I think space travel should be open sourced Give everyone the option to make their own spaceship.

Just like that one guy making his own submarine and then .... oh wait ....

[near veldt]

Update temps drop to sub 35 while idle so big different lmao

[maiden coyote]

Well I had both of the front wheels off my truck about 6 inches in the air

But when I took the picture this is all I had

[edgy hazel]

definitely not the average size for wheels to be in the air

[night girder]

That thing road legal?

The spikes?

[edgy hazel]

it's the US I assume

[night girder]

ofc it is.

[edgy hazel]

their laws for cars are like:

1. have lights
2. have a plate
   and that's it

[night girder]

Remember the little "figurines" on the hood of some cars? They all had to go for safety.

[maiden coyote]

Not at all.. but apparently ambulances are heavy af

[night girder]

this week, for the first time, I saw a truck being towed away, by another truck 😂

[maiden coyote]

I should work on my pen skills... google says you need to pay to blur things out.. for advanced features

[night girder]

didn't know there were special towtrucks for trucks.

something like this?

[sharp oasis]

Wait why

[maiden coyote]

Looks like a miller or jerrdan 50

We 4 of those here..

2 of them are rotators.. meaning more of a mobile crane

[night girder]

accidents with pedestrians, the figurines would cause "lethal" damage

they are still allowed I believe, if they are retractable.

[sharp oasis]

Ahh

[night girder]

or if you screw em off before driving.

[edgy hazel]

and now we got a car made of steel and sharp corners 🤣

[night girder]

did it get the green light to drive on EU roads?

[edgy hazel]

It will absolutely not be lagal in the EU no

no official ruling yet I think

[gilded helm]

I thought Tesla came out and said they don't even plan on trying? So there won't be a ruling.

[edgy hazel]

Stefan Teller, automotive expert at SGS-TUV Saar GmbH, outlined his concerns about the Cybertruck. “The front of the vehicle must not be stiff,” he explained. “The bumper and bonnet must be able to absorb energy to protect pedestrians.”
This means the aforementioned “strong modifications to the basic structure,” would be necessary.

[night girder]

all I know was, it tooks some big guns to haul a big ass truck 😂

I couldn't really stare at the scene because I was driving by.

Apparantly there was a podcast in 2020 where Musk already comfirmed it was not meant for the EU. And they know it isn't road legal here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/iazx50/elon_confirms_the_cybertruck_does_not_meet_eu_spec/

[edgy hazel]

and then they still accepted preorders from the EU

pigs

[night girder]

"...we can make a truck that does comply with the EU spec in the future" A.k.a. as a normal truck 😂

[gilded helm]

Well, people import cars that aren't road legal all over the place.

[edgy hazel]

nah you gotta have your TÜV

cars are inspected every 2 years here

[gilded helm]

Presumably those EU orders will receive delivery in the USA, either because they're also dual residents of some sort, or they'll just ship it and take on the risk if they use it on a public road.

[dire igloo]

*have to be inspected every 2 years

To be road safe and legal to drive

[gilded helm]

Anyone rich enough to import one can probably come up with a workaround, which may be as simple as never taking it on public roads or even never registering it.

[edgy hazel]

yeah true

[night girder]

That's not so simple in the EU normally. You have to get a car insurance. If the car is not road legal, forget getting an insurance.

[edgy hazel]

well if you literally use it on private property only that doesn't follow road laws you're fine kinda

[night girder]

If you car isn't insured, it's just a matter of time before they catch you. Every village has camera's on the border checking license plates of cars.

[dire igloo]

Being insured is also an important safety net

[night girder]

I wonder if this is allowed tbh

[dire igloo]

If you ever damage something, you don't have to pay

[sharp oasis]

Normally I think it is

[gilded helm]

I don't believe that most municipalities in the world (EU or anywhere) have the resources or will to bother people over things like this.

[dire igloo]

It is, because private property means you can do fuck all if the neighbors don't complain

[night girder]

Well, in EU you have little control over your own property. Atleast in these parts.

[sharp oasis]

Ahh

[night girder]

no it doesn't at all. wtf, you own a property?

If a car parks on my property, and I call the cops. There is literally NOTHING they can do about it.

[sharp oasis]

Canada you can do whatever. On your property within legal reasons

[night girder]

If I tow away that car, from my property I can get sued.

[sharp oasis]

If your making cocaine

No

[sharp oasis]

Cringe

[night girder]

I mean, you could do it. But according to law I know: 1) the cops can't do anything. 2) I am not allowed to do anything to a car that's on my property for some reason.

[sharp oasis]

Reason for me not to move Into EU

[edgy hazel]

where do you live? If a car parks on your property you can get it towed 100%

[dire igloo]

Not ANY private property, lol

[night girder]

We called the cops before. This was their answer.

[dire igloo]

Has to be yours or that of a person that consents

[night girder]

We had to figure it out with the person of the car itself.

[edgy hazel]

the cops bullshitted you

[night girder]

uhu ...

[night girder]

I said it last night no? You don't want to move here 🙂 I think I read you were about to join the military?

[dire igloo]

Park your car in front of theirs, tell them "sorry, my driveway is blocked, had to park in front of it. Anyway, I think I'll probably use my bike for daily needs, gotta get some exercise in"

[sharp oasis]

You did lol

[edgy hazel]

also you don't even need to notify the cops

just call the towing company and the owner of the car needs to pay it to get their car back

[night girder]

So I guessed you were more of a free bird type of person 😄

[dire igloo]

That's how it works here in Germany

[edgy hazel]

yeah true but anything else would be stupid

[night girder]

I am on the belgium legal forum reading about it now.

Can be it's a loop hole in our system. But it pisses people off.

[night girder]

Never said it was a good system. But from my perspective, USA has more laws protecting citizens property than EU. But it is what it is. Just an observation.

[edgy hazel]

yeah like shooting people

[night girder]

I wouldn't be suprised you driving your exotic non legal car in your garsden (EU) and the cops show up to fine you

[gilded helm]

The hard part if someone has actually parked in your driveway is doing anything about it quickly enough. I live near an elementary school, sometimes people who will 'be right back' are just assholes.

[night girder]

We put up a sign now.

[gilded helm]

Signs don't do shit

[night girder]

and the license plate of the car.

And it does work 😛

[gilded helm]

And letting the air out just immobilizes them longer since you can't actually get fast enforcement

[edgy hazel]

gives you enough time to get it towed 😄

[night girder]

if they have a dash cam, and see me walking around the car, and have flat tyres, they sue me. And they win.

[edgy hazel]

DSGVO 😄

[gilded helm]

I haven't been able to get any meaningful enforcement over the long term, sometimes people get a stern enough warning that they stop for the rest of the school year, then it resets in the fall.

[night girder]

Haha, might actually work.

[edgy hazel]

it's not admissable as evidence

[night girder]

a reallllllyyy expensive solution, is installing those retractable iron rods on your parking spot. But that's something the 1%'rs would do. Actually, they don't need to do that. They got properties as big as a village

[edgy hazel]

also some remote controlled pillars/spikes are also a good way to stop people from parking

[night girder]

That's what I meant 😄 The pillars.

I just realize, what a crappy Photoshop image it is 😂 Holy moly.

[gilded helm]

A fun fantasy but there's no way I could get those into a public roadway

[night girder]

but yeah, those things.

[night girder]

Oh, hell no. I am thinking private 😄

once we all drive electric. It can be solved. Chargers only work for your specific car.

[edgy hazel]

accidentally drops some screws

[night girder]

unless the public ones.

[gilded helm]

What I need is a proxy to do shit like this, and then a good alibi

[dire igloo]

They can't use that footage cuz they're filming your property and what you're doing on your property without your consent

[night girder]

I don't know. If it proofs that it's me vandalizing someones else car. A judge might think differently. Even if it's on my property.

[dire igloo]

Then they're also providing proof of trespassing

[edgy hazel]

carry something and drop it and pick it up

[night girder]

Yeah, but the Judge will say: that doesn't allow you to vandalize someones car.

the same it doesn't allow me to shoot them if they are on my property. Even if I ask them to leave.

The judge would say I had to file a complaint, go to court etc etc. The legal way.

[cyan crescent]

Are crucial ssds any good?

[edgy hazel]

bro your country has weird laws

[night girder]

tell me about it

[edgy hazel]

y'all made waffles and that was so good ya decided to make up a bunch of shit to cancel it out

[stray badger]

yes

[stray badger]

spike strips. put them out when drop off times are and take them back when you want ur driveway back

like the ones that cops use

[cyan crescent]

Question is, p3 plus 2TB or 4TB. Its going in my ps5

[night girder]

These are pretty nasty too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WQDVLTWI1I&themeRefresh=1

[stray badger]

Yep

[stray badger]

Idk if the p3 is ps5 compatible

I think the p5 is tho

2tb is probably plenty

[cyan crescent]

Its pcie4 so it should be

[night girder]

m2?

[cyan crescent]

Anything 3 or lower isnt. Yes, m.2

[night girder]

That's are the requirements. But the Sequential read speed is debatable.

www.crucial.com/compatible-upgrade-for/sony/playstation-5

Those are all crucial compatible playstation 5 ssd's.

[dire igloo]

Model over brand.
They have great ones (T500, P5 Plus) and bad ones (P3, P3 Plus, T700)

[night girder]

only T500 is viable for PS5

[dire igloo]

QLC which means lower lifespan.
Acceptable for 4TB, bad for 2TB and below

[stray badger]

T700 isnt bad, its just very expensive

[night girder]

T700 isn't even listed on crucial

[stray badger]

It was their gen 5 drive right?

The T500 actually seems like a good option

[night girder]

crucial recommends these for PS5:

[gilded helm]

Hm, looks like SSD prices have crept back up

[charred pewter]

so, pc hasnt crashed yet ?

[night girder]

can just be marketing ofc 🤷‍♂️

[stray badger]

Its gen 5 tho right? Thats why

[stray badger]

Its very annoying

[night girder]

yes

[night girder]

nop. Played some BG3 today. Stable 👌

[maiden coyote]

I'm sure it can be imported and legally registered as an exotic or something.

[night girder]

The cyber truck? No. Never going to be on the road (legally). Unless the EU allows it. Which we all doubt.

What insurance company would insure that death trap? 😄

[gilded helm]

Ooh, have rates come out on it?

Insurance rates will ultimately tell the tale of the repair nightmare that thing probably is

[night girder]

not in the EU no.

[gilded helm]

Then watch it be functionally limited to States in the USA where Tesla themselves does insurance. 😛

[night girder]

It does require a special driving license it seems, because of it's weight. Atleast in Belgium. You need a truck driving license

[edgy hazel]

flashing

[night girder]

who will get that?

[night girder]

How are you cores btw? 😄

[charred pewter]

i dunno im out of town

[night girder]

Also, @charred pewter what temps does your CPU hit when cinebenching?

[charred pewter]

unplugged it all before i left, didnt want house burning down 😄

didnt run cinebench ... it will hit 99C with prime95 on "highest heat torture test" though LOL ... i wont get that high in gaming, but i am considering liquid cooling (not AIO, as those arnt any better than the PS dual tower air cooler)

[night girder]

Ah, cool. Maxeek has the same with 12700k.

[charred pewter]

yeah, my 12600k maxed on heat too

they run too damn hot 😉

but intel keeps saying "100 C is normal operating temps, its fine" ... LOL

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-1750056094467610487

[stray badger]

Friends 12600k hits 70smth c max on cinebench

[maiden coyote]

I already have that. I'm good

They'll probably have to do something in the eu, because they give a shit. Electric vehicles are insanely heavy. A tesla model y is almost 3000kg

[night girder]

Lucky you 😄

[maiden coyote]

Here we don't care as long as your vehicle is under 26,000 lbs and you don't pull a trailer over 10,000.. but if it's personal use.. then you can drive a semi

We get quite a few "farm trucks" which are semis, weigh upwards of 50,000 and are driven by kids with a normal license.

By get I mean they wrecked it.

[gilded helm]

Farm vehicle law compliance is probably very scattershot by municipality

[night girder]

how big is the average damage on those semi farm trucks?

they should be sturdy no

[maiden coyote]

They're normal tractor trailers.

[edgy hazel]

i am so fucking dumb

HMM HMM why does my phone keep crashing and freezing HMM HMM

has just flashed the gapps for androidTV

time to wipe and redo

[edgy hazel]

Skibidi

[stray badger]

hey, at least its not on the streets

[sand saddle]

Galahad Trinity Performance 360 is better than PS120 by a decent margin.
But not like there's anything to really gain going past PS120 cooling.
If you go custom, go direct die and/or gpu block. Just a simple CPU loop is stupid when AIOs exist.

Cheapest improvement is buying a contact frame, but supposedly it doesn't help as much if the CPU is already used.

[dusk rivet]

contact frames really should just be included with motherboards

[dusk rivet]

so many people do cpu only loops and it makes zero sense

[sharp oasis]

If I do custom I do all of my build

[dusk rivet]

if you’re spending the money on a custom loop, it makes no sense not to

do a custom loop properly, or just don’t do one

[sharp oasis]

It's funny

@dusk rivet my 5600 is close to half the speed of a 7900x

I think like 45%

(Norton security, autoinstalled and stole a ton of pref)

[dusk rivet]

norton pisses me off

[dire igloo]

Contact frames should not be required in the first place

[dusk rivet]

i have it installed on my computer and regret it so much

[dusk rivet]

they aren’t required

they just are a good idea given their price

[sharp oasis]

It installs every time I clean install windoes

Fuck you msi

Holding me back from reaching half the speed of a 7900x

I consider that an achievement for a little 5600 to do

[dusk rivet]

i hate pc part manufacturers that do that

[sharp oasis]

Fucken Norton tho

Eats a ton of perf

[edgy hazel]

have you tried to uninstall it

[dusk rivet]

do you mean performance?

[sharp oasis]

Lol sorry

[dusk rivet]

i thought you meant preferences lol

[sharp oasis]

Yeah I am uninstalling it rn

[dusk rivet]

i accidentally installed mcafee and hate myself for it

[edgy hazel]

have you tried to uninstall it

[dusk rivet]

not even my fault, i was trying to download some definitely perfectly legal content, and it installed

[dusk rivet]

to the best of my ability, some stuff it flat out refused to let me delete

[edgy hazel]

oh wipe your PC then jesus

[sharp oasis]

That prolly means something was infected

[dusk rivet]

nah it’s fine

[sharp oasis]

I wonder how much farther I can push my 5600

[edgy hazel]

no you actually need to wipe it NOW

[dusk rivet]

nah it’s fine

[edgy hazel]

pirating something and getting an antivirus installed is horrible

[dusk rivet]

i mean i legit stopped the install

mcafee didn’t even properly download

[edgy hazel]

that's very different from

i accidentally installed mcafee

[dusk rivet]

well it ran

[edgy hazel]

yeah fuck that. Wipe

[dusk rivet]

but quite a few files weren’t installed properly

[sharp oasis]

Wipe

[edgy hazel]

you don't wanna be a part of a botnet or something

[sharp oasis]

Your pc is most likely infected

[dusk rivet]

can i backup my videos and similar?

[edgy hazel]

backup files (NOT FOLDERS)

and wipe

[dusk rivet]

i’ll do it when i get home

and how exactly do i wipe

[edgy hazel]

having a hijacked antivirus is horrible

[edgy hazel]

usb stick install windows and make sure to format your drive during it

[dusk rivet]

oh so legit wipe the whole pc and start over again

as if it was a brand new pc with no os

what’s the worst case scenario here if i don’t?

we talking they take my bank account info or some shit, or just delete files

[sharp oasis]

That

[dusk rivet]

well shit

i mean this was like 6 months ago atp

[maiden coyote]

That. Or they can take over your local network and infect other systems. Firewalls are designed to block remote traffic. Not local.

More than likely it's a botnet. I had some perfectly legal software install a coinminer in explorer.exe... I think it was a rootkit too because nothing would detect/remove it.

[edgy hazel]

yeah having an antivirus with malware is horrible. You basically got a rootkit. It's rare but it definetly can happen

[jagged snow]

Especially since most people tend to trust antivirus implicitly

[dusk rivet]

i’ll get to wiping it when i get home tonight

just gotta save a couple of videos and backup some game saves, then i’ll wipe it and reinstall windows

gotta be more careful while pirating ig

i don’t even remember what exactly i installed

as i said, it was months ago atp

[dusk rivet]

i’ll make sure to save files only, no folders

[edgy hazel]

most botnet tools just ping back to the main server occasionally

they can be asleep for months/years and even when they activate the worst you get is a little performance impact

[dusk rivet]

not a huge deal to wipe the computer, i’m the only user and it’s like 80% games

for most games i don’t mind relying on the cloud saves

there’s just a handful of games i really care about

[edgy hazel]

I know it's shitty, but better be safe than sorry

[dusk rivet]

yeah true

can i get a legit key since i currently have windows, or do i have to get a new key either by paying for it or ya know

[edgy hazel]

Do you have your key bound to your Microsoft account?

[dusk rivet]

no idea

windows came installed with my prebuilt if that means anything

[maiden coyote]

The coin miner I had was smart. It shutdown when the computer was in use

I noticed it because the computer wasn't going to sleep

[jagged snow]

It should be linked to the mobo then

[edgy hazel]

Should be in your windows account settings where you can sign in with your ms account. If you do it should give you a popup telling you that its linked to it

[dusk rivet]

worst case i wipe it and it doesn’t work the way i think it will, so i use my second pc to install the key from there

[edgy hazel]

Otherwise check on the ms website under devices

[dusk rivet]

nice having a second pc handy

[maiden coyote]

There's something called mas

[dusk rivet]

yeah ik

probably best not to elaborate on that

[maiden coyote]

If it doesn't.

[dusk rivet]

if that works i can figure it out myself

i’ll try seeing if it’ll link first, that’s my backup plan

[maiden coyote]

I'm not lol. It'll cross that bridge for you if you get stuck

I've had quite a few pre-builts not be activated after reinstall. Some do some don't

[dusk rivet]

hopefully it’s tied to my mobo like flight said, if not i’ll try and get it to link to my microsoft account before i wipe

[maiden coyote]

I definitely would not sign into anything on the compromised machine

[edgy hazel]

That's why I just bough a pro key from the grey market and linked it to my ms account

[dusk rivet]

most painful part is gonna be reinstalling my games

[dusk rivet]

way too late for that at this point

[edgy hazel]

I mean even my bootcamp on my macbook is activated properly

[maiden coyote]

Change your passwords asap. At least the important ones

[dusk rivet]

i’ll just hope it’s either already tied to my microsoft account or mobo

mas as a backup

[maiden coyote]

I wouldn't worry about activation. You've got options

[dusk rivet]

gonna grab the video files i need, plus some important game saves, and wipe it

as herg said, files only, not folders

[maiden coyote]

Just get that compromised machine off your network now

[dusk rivet]

nearly home

doing it as soon as i get home

for the time being i’ll rip the ethernet cable out the back and disable wifi functionality

[maiden coyote]

If you need to download windows

[dusk rivet]

i got a second pc for that

[maiden coyote]

Go to the website and use their tools to do it.. that's easiest for uefi

[dusk rivet]

got it

[maiden coyote]

Otherwise use dev tools and open it in a mobile browser and it will let you download it directly.. but they might have done that nasty thing where there's a 4.5gb file and you need fat32 for uefi

[dusk rivet]

i have a brand new 32gb thumb drive on hand actually

[sharp oasis]

Will it work 5.02ghz 5600

Nope

It's tryinh

Bsoded on boot

[dusk rivet]

working on backing stuff up, then i’ll wipe

vast majority should still be on the old pc, so no need to backup

well while that’s backing up, might as well setup my new desk stuff

[charred pewter]

lol

anything new for your desk?

[dusk rivet]

Got a monitor light, and this nice headphone stand

Love the monitor light

it's essentially a cheaper version of that ben-q light

same functionality really, even has a nice control puck

though for a lot less

headphone stand is this nice simple faux walnut and metal stand, with a little place to set misc items

[charred pewter]

nice

[dusk rivet]

tried to find nice stuff to add to my desk setup that wouldn't really clutter it

[charred pewter]

right!

[dusk rivet]

@edgy hazel is reseting my pc what i'm looking for?

To reset your PC, go to Start > Settings > System > Recovery . Next to Reset this PC , select Reset PC. Then, select Keep my files, choose cloud or local, change your settings, and set Restore preinstalled apps? to No.
Windows Support

[sharp oasis]

The bettwe way is to use the Windows USB and fully erase that drive

Better*

[dusk rivet]

so insert a usb drive with windows on it, then just erase the two other drives?

[tough owl]

Drone I bought encodes the video with some interesting metadata

shows speed, altitude from start, lat and long,

[gilded helm]

I know a local drone photography hobbyist, they actually look at a lot of that metadata to see that you're the one who actually shot it, and that it isn't fake.

I forget if he's submitting it to some sort of competition or if it's just a club thing

[tough owl]

I mean the camera on this one aint that good, in some areas its oversharpened but its not bad for a tiny sensor and lense

I bought a dji mini 3

[charred pewter]

ive got the dji mini 2... its a pretty good drone

the 3 is sposed to be better

what is reallyannoying is the DJI Fly app on droid vanished from the app installer stores (google/samsung), for years, and the only way to get it on your droid is the sideload it

which i never did, cause i dont trust sideloading anything on my phone

so i had to use my iphone (which had a smaller screen) to use the DJI Fly app since it was available on the app store properly

however recently my father had a leftover 8+ iphone, which has a bigger screen than my others... so i use that now (since it doesnt have a sim card, its just a gadget)

[tough owl]

I have the funny controller with the fancy screen

Cuz the mini 3 supports it

I want a mavic some day

[charred pewter]

ah

yeah my controller has a 'clamp' where you jamb a phone into it (too small for a tablet)

although i could prolly make a special clamp-clamp that fits a tablet

[sharp oasis]

Yep

[tough owl]

Would honestly be really sweet. Given the size of the display on a tablet

[dusk rivet]

this wipe is taking its sweet ole time

[stray badger]

wipes take a long time

[dusk rivet]

looks like it’s gonna be an overnight thing

[sharp oasis]

Sheesh

Even my disk wipes don't take that long

[dusk rivet]

going through nearly 1.2tb

not a huge deal, didn’t have any particular plans tonight anyways

[maiden coyote]

you didn't need to full format it.

you only need to do that if you're getting rid of the drive.

[maiden coyote]

apparently if you fly those where you're not supposed to it will yell at you

my area is a no fly zone due to a airport

[tough owl]

are you that close?

red zone or like a blue zone?

[twin dew]

New Noctua 140mm fan.
Noctua is Back: NH-D15 Gen2 & 8 Years of Fan Development
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cng_J4sBaNs
The Forbidden Noctua Interview: Fan Engineering Technical Discussion & Challenges
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82LZkglNiQ0

Trying to get very tiny blade to frame gap as one of the points, and the frame flexed too much if you use through the both sides of the fan long screws to screw it to a radiator, and overtightened the screws, in latest almost ready iteration.

[twin dew]

ASRock MB was setting FCLK to 2000 MHz by default in all cases.
When AMD stock is 1733 MHz.

[twin dew]

Wouldn't even have needed contact frame, if the socket to CPU interface was tiny bit more expensive.
But Intel cheaped out with both the socket, and the IHS.

[twin dew]

AMDs solution was to use cheap socket mounting, but thick IHS (with minor additional thickness to get to AM4 cooler compatibility).

About 2/3rds is for the bending loads of the mounting, 1/3rd for cooler compatibility.

[twin dew]

And now to spend the christmas eve in one of the best ways I can.
At home, minorly sick so I don't have to go anywhere \o/

[gilded helm]

Just sick enough to feel fine, but so you can say no to invitations/obligations can make for a very nice staycation

[maiden coyote]

Red

Well not red, but the altitude limit is 0 ft lol

[charred pewter]

oh really... wow

[pure karma]

it does feel like that tho... i have nothing really to do until midnight

[charred pewter]

i think i should get a contact frame anyways, cause they seem much better than the 'typical' mount

[twin dew]

That 2000MHz is what AMD semi-officially says that (almost) all CPUs should be able to do, like 1800MHz was for 5000-series.
But this specific CPU cannot do it stable.
Either because it has bad silicon, or because it got hit by the VSOC debacle and is degrading.
As the FCLK/IF speed is what drops first as the IO-die degrades, until the stable FCLK drops below default and the system cannot boot anymore, or the IOD shorts completely.

Because Letterdief had missed me saying couple of times to upgrade the MBs BIOS version before installing the CPU.
And the latest BIOS also set pretty high VSOC even without RAM being on high frequency, by default again.

So it might have gotten the damaging dose before the BIOS was updated with CPU installed.
And is now slowly dying from that.

[charred pewter]

😦

thats seems like a rough deal ... like how is everyone supposed to know this and not pre-damage their cpu because they trusted bios just being 'default' is 'safe'

i generally think the 'default' should be low, and safe mode... not bleeding edge, like why XMP is never on by default

[twin dew]

At least Asus actually used sane defaults at AMD stock when you didn't touch RAM settings.
But ASRock seemed to set things like Asus would when you enable 6000MT/s RAM.

At least on the newest BIOS revision.

And for that, both used 1.35V VSOC back before the issue was known.

So if the early ASRock BIOSes did same as the current one did (too high settings on Auto / BIOS Defaults), then the CPU got burned with the initial damage.

Mine got the 1.35V VSOC for 15-30 minutes.
I had installed the CPU, installed OS & HWiNFO etc.
Then set the RAM to 6000MT/s and went into OS to intentionally check for too high auto voltages, and spotted that VSOC, went back to BIOS after making notes of all the voltages, and changed it down.
But the CPU still started dying in fast order.
Could do 2100MHz FCLK when new, when I RMAd it it couldn't do 1933MHz without reboots from uncorrected IF ECC faults.

[maiden coyote]

is asus buying people new cpu's?

[twin dew]

The AM5 VSOC debacle is AMDs fault, and affected ALL the MB makers.

[maiden coyote]

I remember hearing about all of that. well it sounds like AMD will be giving out replacements

or else.

[dire igloo]

Didn't GN notice OCP failure on their AMD board when testing for that?

[twin dew]

Asus just had another fault in their firmware that they didn't have pre-boot VRM current limits, so when the CPU was already dead and shorted in the IO-die, the MB would feed 300+A into that short, and burn the die, the substrate and the socket.

[twin dew]

Asus just made it extra spectacular ONCE the CPU was already dead.

But all the MBs killed CPUs if you used over 5200MT/s RAM speeds.

[dire igloo]

Killing the CPU, then mutilating the corpse

[maiden coyote]

burn everything.

i like it.

[charred pewter]

wtf lol

you guys arnt making me think well of amd right now ....

[dire igloo]

It's been fixed

[twin dew]

AMD thought that up to 1.40V VSOC was safe, and communicated that to all the MB makers.
Who then used 1.35V VSOC as default when you set RAM higher than AMD stock.
And that caused damage to the IO-dies in actuality.
And now the absolute limit is 1.30V and 1.25V is used by default by MB makers.

[maiden coyote]

I mean they screwed up. it happens. as long as they warrenty the processors they're okay.

[twin dew]

When 1.00V is the AMD stock VSOC.

So AMD mistake in spec, and then MB maker mistake on setting the auto to go near that "absolute max".

But ALL MB makers made the same decision for their Auto VSOC table.

[twin dew]

Unfortunately ALL the CPUs that ever ran with more than 1.30V VSOC should have been pre-emptively recalled, because they will all have much shorter lifespan.
AMD is trying to get them to last over the warranty term.
They do replace them if they die, and in some cases you can get early replacement like I did if you ask for it.
But they are trying to downplay the issue.

[wanton orchid]

I mean it been months now
it mostly been rolled over rn

as long as you update the bios early

[twin dew]

And the old BIOS doesn't do stupid shit like ASRock might be doing...

[dusk rivet]

nice and cozy

we don’t talk about that monitor placement tho

[charred pewter]

whats wrong with it

if the secondary is used for tertiary things, it doesnt NEED to be perfectly flush and touchy touchy and whatenot

what kind of desk lamp did you get? looks like a LED strip of some sort, does it have a gooseneck arm, or is it attached to the monitor ?

i just have an antique "lamp with a lampshade" sitting behind my monitor with a 4w LED bulb in it lol ...

antiques, made for 120 W light bulbs ... insane how things used to be in the day

fixtures in the house with warning labels about max watt bulbs allowed ... and if you didnt grow up during those times, you would think "how in the world, who makes an LED bulb of 150 W?!" lol

im guessing there are 150 w LED type C bulbs ... but only to be used in extreme cases like for growing 1 acre of crops

i cant really tell, when i search for led bulbs, they always say things like "150 w equivalent" ... and thats not really the actual watts they draw

[twin dew]

26W 4000lm E27 socket lamp.
the 150W equivalent is "only" 19W and 2500 lm.

[charred pewter]

😆 "Our shop lighting, garage lighting can supper fit for the E26/E27 socket, it is as simple as installing it in a ordinary a light bulb. You only needs 30 seconds for done. no need of any tools, wiring, or professional electrician. They are good led lights for shop."

[sharp oasis]

Let's hope I have luck elsewhere

[charred pewter]

a product description like that makes me go "nope"

[charred pewter]

luck elsewhere?

[sharp oasis]

Sending my gpu to repairman

As warranty is a dud

[charred pewter]

damnit... the DJI Fly app wont install on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 ... incompatible OS, and the tab4 wont update its OS because incompatible device LOOL ... guess that idea is shot

[charred pewter]

oh shit, that sucks

[sharp oasis]

So far with how the card silently died and seems to not have any physical damage. It could quite possibly be a VRM fail

[charred pewter]

sounds like what was happening to my 980ti

power levels were getting too weak at certain steps ... was slowly going out of spec, dying

[sharp oasis]

Mine died catastrophicly

[charred pewter]

oh!

[sharp oasis]

Instant death at full load

[charred pewter]

yikes man... how old ?

[sharp oasis]

3months from purchase

[charred pewter]

no smoke? no sizzle? just ... dead

[sharp oasis]

Nothin

[twin dew]

And why is the warranty denied then?

[sharp oasis]

Sticker

[charred pewter]

surely thats covered under warranty??? 3mo?

[sharp oasis]

Legally I can go to court

[charred pewter]

.... what did you do to the sticker ...

[sharp oasis]

But that's more expensive then just getting a new gpu

Or having this card as a donor board

To another 6700xt

@twin dew @charred pewter eveb if it went up in smoke it'd count as CID

[charred pewter]

im not familiar with CID

[sharp oasis]

Customer induced damage

[twin dew]

.

[charred pewter]

so i repeat... 👆

[sharp oasis]

Sticker was broken

To repaste

[charred pewter]

ah

[twin dew]

Why did you repaste a GPU during warranty period?

[charred pewter]

i dont think ive ever repasted a gpu before ... oh wait... i got an aftermarket cooler for my 8800gts cause the one that came with it was pure crap, so i installed a zalman on it

its still on it to this day 😄 and works still!

[twin dew]

There has been rash of GPU models with bad stock paste jobs, where some units overheat from factory.
But the solution isn't to repaste it yourself, but do warranty replacement...

[charred pewter]

ah

i heard of some missing thermal pads on lower 30xx cards... didnt hear about actual bad paste on some too ... doh

well, they werent "missing", they were simply not included in their process

half the vram didnt have pads to the heatsink plate

MSI i think it was, ASUS to (the TUF ones?)

[sharp oasis]

Poor stock prefomance and asrock not responding

[sharp oasis]

My message above

[dusk rivet]

monitor light bar, essentially a strip of leds connected to a nice looking metal tube mounted to my monitor

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BGG6PJ7N/?coliid=I2JFDMRYGQXM3R&colid=2BCFZYYSN9I8E&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it

it has warmth settings but only psychopaths use anything other than the warmest light

cold light is like being in a hospital, no idea how anyone likes it

[dusk rivet]

i have to look to the right to look at my main monitor

[charred pewter]

oh you play on the left monitor?

[dusk rivet]

right monitor is the main monitor

[charred pewter]

somehow i would think that light fixture and my level of 'dust' on the screen, would bug me lol

[dusk rivet]

the light bar doesn't really light up the monitor

[charred pewter]

yeah if its built in a way that it has a baffle which casts a shadow down the front face of the monitor... it would be fine

[dusk rivet]

that's essentially how it's made, yeah

[charred pewter]

nice

and yes, warm light ... that "daylight" mode these leds have now is insane nasty indoors 😄

[dusk rivet]

warm light will always be nicer than cold light

[charred pewter]

even at my hobby bench, i do not like that harsh cool blue light look

[dusk rivet]

though it has 2 warm light settings, 1 neutral, 2 cold, so it works for everyone

[charred pewter]

yup

[dusk rivet]

the little control puck is able to control brightness, warmth, and on/off, it's great

[charred pewter]

exactly...

nice little device ...

the light puck is neat

[dusk rivet]

and it's just plain black, no crappy logos

love companies that don't plaster their logo over everything

[charred pewter]

their images are all on an imac screen lol

oh god yeah.... especially when its a company name/logo that is some NONAMEKNOCKOFF brand ...

[dusk rivet]

loads of that on amazon nowadays

it's a struggle to find name brands nowadays

[charred pewter]

almost every gadget has twenty sellers of it with their logo on it

sometimes i pay an extra bunck to get one that doesnt have such a stupid ALLCAPSNAME on it

[dusk rivet]

yeah that's fair

[charred pewter]

even though its the SAME THING as others sell

[dusk rivet]

i usually try to avoid super obvious logos

[charred pewter]

yeah heh

[dusk rivet]

bit of a struggle though

[charred pewter]

like, who is "MELIFO" ... and good thing they didnt stick their name all over that light stick and puck 😄

[dusk rivet]

Yeah it's nice.

same with the headphone stand, there's zero logos

[charred pewter]

like .. these mice pads ... sometimes when you buy them, they just have the neat logo... sometimes you get one with a giant words of STEEEL SEERREIESS OMFG!!! across them ...

[dusk rivet]

i legit used to have that exact mousepad

[charred pewter]

i managed to roll the gamble right and have a few with just the logo on them

but im not impressed ... they curl over time when they get worn

[dusk rivet]

love that my parents aren't particular about tech stuff, they just get my hand-me-down stuff

[charred pewter]

haha thats good 😄

[dusk rivet]

whenever i upgrade something they get my old stuff

one thing they are weirdly particular about is UI

they don't really care about anything at all tech related, but do care about their UI

[charred pewter]

hard to hammydown UI

im VERY particular about the mouse i use... i have tried so many mice in my life, its sad the graveyard of unused mice i have

[dusk rivet]

i have the logitech g305, very nice

[charred pewter]

i still have not found one i like for my work mac

'edges too sharp' on this one, 'buttons clack loud' on that one 'scroll wheel clinks' on another one, 'skips on the pad' another, 'scraps its feet when going verticle' .... guh

[dusk rivet]

the only requirements i had for my mouse was wireless, and pretty quiet, g305 fits both for not being super expensive

[charred pewter]

im too picky

[dusk rivet]

That's fair

[charred pewter]

im also a claw grip user.... which makes selection even worse

[dusk rivet]

with how much people use their pc, peripherals are super important

[charred pewter]

indeed

[dusk rivet]

no matter how good the pc is, if you have crappy peripherals you'll have a crappy experience

[charred pewter]

its like when i 'work' on a computer, i need the super flat chiclet type keyboards.... i cant stand big keys with large movement when trying to type a lot for work

[dusk rivet]

that's fair, for typing i kinda prefer that

[charred pewter]

instant reaction, while still being able to 'rest' your fingers on the keys

[dusk rivet]

though for gaming i like the tacility of greater travel

[charred pewter]

yeah

feel the movement and then 'thump' of the key registering ... to know you are just about ready to sidestep that rocket... and when it takes it

[dusk rivet]

low profile is a nice middle, but less options for switches and keycaps

[charred pewter]

plus they are a bit more durable for that kind of 'wads' abuse LOL

i had a flatkey (deathstalker?) keyboard... the "w" membrane broke, and i couldnt move forward anymore LOL!

sad too, it was a nice keyboard, but they dont sell it anymore

im more forgiving on keyboards, than i am mice ....

[dusk rivet]

they always discontinue the nice stuff

[charred pewter]

even the slightest 'crick' of plastic in my mouse hand, will drive me up the wall... i pull it apart, and grease the spots that are cricking on each other ...

i dont think i have a gaming mouse that has NOT been modified in some way by me lol

[dusk rivet]

i am constantly messing with my mechanical keyboard.

i have torn it apart and rebuilt it so many times

[charred pewter]

😄

my current keyboard has these little metal clips inside the keys which simulate "clicky" mechanical ... i opened all the keys and pulled them all out lol!

[dusk rivet]

you might like a low-profile mechanical keyboard

[charred pewter]

its this keyboard: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LVTI3TO/

[dusk rivet]

significantly less travel

[charred pewter]

its a silly gimmick... i wasnt impressed ... so i pulled the 'mechanical' bits hahah

[dusk rivet]

i have a planned mechanical keyboard build that i'll do whenever i have money to burn

only like 400usd

[charred pewter]

only

[dusk rivet]

very much sarcasm

it's just about the best keyboard i could come up with

[charred pewter]

at one point i was looking at that woozy (?) keyboard, where it has 'analog WADS' keys ...

[dusk rivet]

wooting?

[charred pewter]

wooting

[dusk rivet]

i've heard good things about their keyboardws

[charred pewter]

but i would imagine it greatly depends on games supporting it ... and its not very widspread

but being able to have some semblance of analog control of wads sounded really neat

[dusk rivet]

they also have some special trigger where you don't have to fully depress or release a key to release and activate the key's function

[charred pewter]

something like a half press macro thing

[dusk rivet]

no idea if it's an actually nice thing to have tho

might be one of those things where it sounds nice in theory but is annoying in practice

[charred pewter]

im not that consistent, i would think i trigger that way too often than i wanted it too

[edgy hazel]

You won't believe it

[charred pewter]

maybe if the keys had 'tilt' control... where 'tilting' a key sideways would fire a macro off ....

[dusk rivet]

I need it

[edgy hazel]

It lights up bitcheeeeessss

[dusk rivet]

Link rn.

[charred pewter]

is that some sort of minecraft firefox light fixture ?

[dusk rivet]

Minecraft fox, but a lamp

Firefox

[charred pewter]

ah 😄

heh, steam chat added discord like reactions now ... (wonder when that was added)

seems a bit over the top for one-on-one chats with friends

[pure karma]

thats sick

[gilded helm]

Is there any technical reason preventing Intel from dropping Barlow Ridge into 14th gen products? As desperate as they are for selling points, I wonder if we'll see that in mobile.

For Thunderbolt 5.

[spark anvil]

For me As well please.

[edgy hazel]

You are not worthy of the baby fox light

[mental oriole]

Too blocky

[edgy hazel]

you will perish

[mental oriole]

One day.

[sharp oasis]

Fire fox

Lol

[dusk rivet]

i figured out why my pc was so goddamn loud

whoever configured the bios for the prebuilt set it so the system at 45c has the system fans set to run at nearly 1200rpm

who in their right mind does that

[charred pewter]

lol

[maiden coyote]

hm.. that might not be good. my monitor flashes constantly, and there's color bands/fuzz across the screen.. then it stops after the computer has been awake for 10 seconds or so

Can't really rule out it not being the hdmi cable. I'll have to try a different one. if it's not I'll be sad. I just got this a380

[sharp oasis]

What a380 is it @maiden coyote

[stray badger]

try rolling back drivers maybe?

[maiden coyote]

it looks like either hardware failure, it works when it heats up, or hdmi cable for just about the same reason or another strange reason it'll start working fine. I'm not sure of the brand of cable, it's an old 10 or maybe more. and I'm asking 4k @ 60 out of it.

it's an asrock low profile a380

[twin dew]

So almost certainly the cable then.

Because High-speed HDMI tops at 4k@30.

[maiden coyote]

likely. I think it was a good cable. it's long and I have no idea how old it is.

[twin dew]

And the tiers above that didn't exist 10 years ago.

[maiden coyote]

it's not 10 years old... I don't think lol.

[twin dew]

Ah, understood the "old 10 or maybe more" wrong then.

You meant it is old cable, and 10 feet or more long?

[maiden coyote]

Kinda odd that it works fine after it refeshes several times. last time I had a cable go bad I could pixaled snow on the display

yeah, I think it's 12 feet

[twin dew]

But for that 4k@60 you need Premium High Speed or better.

[maiden coyote]

or just short.

[twin dew]

No.

Length doesn't matter really if the cable fills the spec.

[maiden coyote]

I haven't had any issues with 3 or 6 feet cables that are very likely not in spec

[twin dew]

Because it is easier to get short cable to fill or exceed the spec.

But just easier to buy cable that actually fills the spec you need, than try to get some cheap cable that might or might not work.

[maiden coyote]

That or there's less cable. lower losses, less chance for interference.

[twin dew]

That is the point why shorter is easier.
But the manufacturer can just use crappier material instead.

To just hit the spec at the length they are doing.

[maiden coyote]

I've got another cable to try tomorrow. I probably should've used a different one before wall mounting the tv.

[twin dew]

But point is that you want suitable length cable that is actually specified to be "Premium High Speed with Ethernet" or "Ultra High Speed"

[maiden coyote]

Should've got a amazon's basic 6' would've been plenty long enough. I think LTT's test showed those were surprisingly good.

[twin dew]

Because cables that just say "up to X resolution & refresh rate", or "HDMI x.x" can be anything.
HDMI only has four cable levels:
Standard Speed.
High Speed.
Premium High Speed.
Ultra High Speed.

And first three ones have that "with Ethernet" subvariant that connects one extra pin, that is needed for Audio Return Channel too.

[maiden coyote]

I'd much rather it be cable than gpu.

[twin dew]

@silk hemlock Well, good luck to him/her...
When all the necessary information was already in the first message if he/she had any idea about basic things...

[silk hemlock]

People gonna people

[twin dew]

Still laughing at the case from time to time 😆

[dusk rivet]

Got me a 1440p monitor, and holy is it nice.

BUT THERE IS A CROOKED NVIDIA GSYNC STICKER ON IT, THAT REFUSES TO COME OFF

[stray badger]

Hairdryer and isopropyl

[twin dew]

Or just needle or knife under a corner to get it started.

[dusk rivet]

i got it after a couple minutes with my fingernail

if you're gonna put a crappy sticker on my monitor, AT LEAST MAKE IT STRAIGHT

[edgy hazel]

Woke stickers smh

[arctic pike]

hey is there anyway to remove these rocks kinda in the way im building

[sterile plinth]

how can I measure the end-to-end latency on my setup?

[sharp oasis]

Merry Christmas

[charred pewter]

wrong channel 🙂 head to #satisfactory

[arctic pike]

cant post screenshots there

[edgy hazel]

Wrong channel

[arctic pike]

yes they told me

[twin dew]

No they didn't.

[arctic pike]

erm

[twin dew]

Understood that people on #satisfactory had pointed you here from this, which hadn't happened.
You just randomly chose to come to one of the few non-Satisfactory-content channels on the server.

[arctic pike]

buddy

who hurt you

[edgy hazel]

People acting dumb in discord

[arctic pike]

go get your ekittens

[stray badger]

Where is the standard herg wrong channel message?