off-topic-tech

[edgy hazel]

insane that it's been 10 years already

[gilded helm]

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-15ProMax-MacBook-Samsung/dp/B0CCXT4QZR/

Reputable brand, 240W, 5gbps data, and a 2 pack for $23. Is this as good as it gets these days? I don't recall sales on anything like this, even going down to 100W cables you don't seem to save much money.

[edgy hazel]

well

anker is a reputable brand and since the cable isn't claiming to be thunderbolt or anything I think it's pretty legit

I think 23$ is pretty okay for that

[gilded helm]

Who knows when 48V interfaces will actually exist, but I've had good luck with cables lasting a long time.

[edgy hazel]

at this point I don't buy cable from brand names really

[gilded helm]

Amazon is purportedly better about fake stuff lately too

[edgy hazel]

I mean it's really depending on your devices

if you really need those 240W yeah, you need a cable that can actually support that. but if your laptop only takes 90/100W (which tbh almost all won't exceed for the next 3-5 years will) just go with whatever

[gilded helm]

That was my thought at first, but they're not much cheaper

[edgy hazel]

but anker has been around

they have a name

[gilded helm]

I found a 3 pack of 480 mbps 100W cables for $20, that's the next best option.

[edgy hazel]

and spending 11 buck/cable is completely fine

man our pricing mentality is really fucked

[gilded helm]

I haven't actually bought a cable in a long time, I've stubbornly been using the ones that come with devices.

But now I'm throwing these in my briefcase

www.anker.com/products/a9128-6-in-1-charging-station

[edgy hazel]

it's a fucking connector with copper shit between

[gilded helm]

www.anker.com/products/a2343-100w-usb-c-charger

So in addition to my actual laptop power cord, I have 2 different backup options once I get 100W cords.

[edgy hazel]

Work or private

if it's work, ask your IT and make up some excuse for why you need two chargers (regularly having to work from two locations)
if it's personal, you have enough cables to charge

but still having 2 chords capable of 240W is nice

[gilded helm]

No help from any IT, just me and my briefcase

And I've got other random cords as well

[edgy hazel]

usually it's the supply being the issue

[gilded helm]

I'm currently annoyed with Google for not providing the specs of the cable that comes with the Pixel 7 Pro, beyond USB 2.0.

[sharp oasis]

Me who does not use the provided cable

And uses a 6ft 20w cable

It's limiting my phone a bit

My pixel 6 can do up to 30w

I also cannot wireless charge

My case is too thick

[sharp oasis]

Question for yall

I've noticed with my phone

The voltage seems to ramp up to 4.1v for the last 20% (80-100%) of charging

Normally it charges at 3.6-3.7v

[wanton orchid]

3.6-3.7 is not charge but battery normal voltage

[sharp oasis]

Odd accubattery must be misreporting the battery charge voltage

I have found it odd on how it can cause an entire charge cycle if I go from 60-100%

[sharp oasis]

So 4.4v is perfectly healthy for my battery to be charging at

[wanton orchid]

this is highly contextual

[sharp oasis]

In general for me

[wanton orchid]

I mean battery != battery

this is extremely specific to model and state of the battery

[sharp oasis]

Ahh

[wanton orchid]

but 4.4 is not outstanding

[sharp oasis]

Pixel 6 and. Apparently 99% capacity intact

Like 4572/4614mAh is what accubattery's latest guess is

[wanton orchid]

if the battery resting is at 4.4 it's probably overcharged
but as charging voltage it's fine

[sharp oasis]

Hmm

[wanton orchid]

at stable charging rate (mA) the charge voltage is expected to spike at the end of the charge

[sharp oasis]

It does seem to be sitting in the 4v wile off charger atm

4.3v

So I should prolly limit it to 80% if I want to preserve it

[wanton orchid]

likely

[sharp oasis]

Tho the loss rate is quite low. My phone seems to manage it's charging cycles well at like 2.1% loss of capacity per year projected

[wanton orchid]

but sometimes it's good to do great charge/discharge
to clear the cells memory
but not often

2.1% per year ?
at what cycling rate ?

[sharp oasis]

Doesn't the memory effect not apply to LI ion batterys

[wanton orchid]

this seems very much too low to me

[sharp oasis]

1.18 cycles per day

[wanton orchid]

this applies to any chemical battery
it just applies more or less and differently

[sharp oasis]

The more you know

This is still semi early data I'll check back In another month

See what it comes out to be

[wanton orchid]

and phones have complicated discharge/charge load management which compensate a lot

as you seen they have great operating voltage ranges

[sharp oasis]

I see my pixel seems to on certain cycles seemingly only use power from the cord for extended periods of time

It will completely stop charging at 80%

And right before I wake up in the morning resume and charge the last 20

[wanton orchid]

At 80% it's supposed to drop battery temperature by almost pausing charging

[sharp oasis]

I find my battery seems to keep cool under charging even with 30w fast charging

It does get hot if I use my 5g modem constaly for hours like on a road trip and watching a movie.

36c is the avg charge temp for my phone

[wanton orchid]

the battery must not stay at "80-100%" much time
it's basically overcharged but increase the battery marketing capacity by management it to stay few moment at this

[wanton orchid]

36 is hot

[sharp oasis]

Ahh

Shit

[wanton orchid]

it's not very hot but it's hot

[sharp oasis]

That's not bad compared to 5g modem useage for 4hrs

[wanton orchid]

it's expected but it's not rest temperature

[sharp oasis]

43c was the phones temp

I disabled 5g now due to power draw and temperatures wile using it

LTE is fast enough

For my area

There's no effect in going up to 5g the speed isisnt different

Went from like 10-12% per hour on data to 5.4-6.2% per hour

[wanton orchid]

so it's just marketing it seems
your phone as not been designed to really steadily use 5g looks

[sharp oasis]

Exynos modem go brrrr

[sharp oasis]

It is apparently a bit of a trouble child to Google.

My phone model

It wonr get face Id ever due to power draw issues

And the fingerprint sensor is finicky as all hell if you have the most minor dirt on your finger

Tho at least it's not a pixel 7

Google did a doodoofard and reused the pixel 6 displays but with higher refresh rates iirc making them burn so much power

[wanton orchid]

you definitely going to loose more than 2% per year

[sharp oasis]

I'll see if I can keep it below 10% in a year lost

I do wanna use this phone to the end of its security update span

Iirc that's 4 more years

[wanton orchid]

I would look at everyday use and background app run vs capacity load
because I'm not trusting that 2% at all

[sharp oasis]

And tensor G1 is not known for efficency at all.

[wanton orchid]

usually expected would be 15% I think

it's not great but it's not too bad

[sharp oasis]

Odd

I disabled pixel launcher

And yet it's burning power still

[wanton orchid]

wdym ? disabled how and why

[sharp oasis]

I have a different launcher that I use

I didnt like the stock pixel launcef

Ahh I see why it's back

I only forced it to stop it's process last time

[wanton orchid]

launchers are usually not what draw much power
it's not supposed to do stuff if you are not using it

[sharp oasis]

There's not much that draws power like crazy I try to stick to wifi to keep power burn to minimum

I do think AOD is a bit of a power eater

Nevermind

AOD barely runs any power out of my battery at all

<1%

Biggest burners are my cpu and modem

[wanton orchid]

aod ?

[sharp oasis]

Always on display

My display never fully shuts off

[wanton orchid]

weird name

[sharp oasis]

It's mostly black in the sleep state with displaying date and time and notifications when they appear

[wanton orchid]

I mean the display is almost completely down
only controllers are ready to use it

[twin dew]

Memory effect was just thing for NiMH batteries.
For Li-Ion, you only need to do near full cycle to calibrate the charge status meter.

[sharp oasis]

Snapchat seems to be a massive pain in my arse for storage and power useage

[twin dew]

Very minor case with NiCd, no case with Li-Ion.

[sharp oasis]

I do not understand why snap decided to use basically 2gb of storage.

And why is it all user data.

I donr take many pics on snap that I save

[narrow folio]

Li-Ion has a higher lifespan if kept between 60-80%, but who does that in a mobile device?

[wanton orchid]

I mean it is less problem but there are still some variables that are better being smoothed out

[twin dew]

Li-Ion really doesn't like being discharged too low.
And the 0% isn't anywhere near empty because of that in devices with battery management.

[wanton orchid]

I hate overcharging btw

[twin dew]

But same for the top end, charging too much or too fast above that 80% damages the cells.

And often 100% isn't anywhere near actual full.

[sharp oasis]

So cycling my phone to 100% could not be very harmful to it

[twin dew]

Only allowing 20%-90% and showing that as 0%-100% is somewhat common AFAIK in electric vehicles for example.

[wanton orchid]

yet it can still be considered overcharging depending on tradeoffs
choices
you ALWAYS can go higher or lower
it's just you straight kill every cells

[wanton orchid]

I mean 100% will not kill your battery

[sharp oasis]

So it's like an ssd in a sence. The cells can only be charged and discharged so many times ig

So keep my battery at 80% max. On usual useage

[wanton orchid]

it's just it will stay healthy less longer than if you stay more in 90% room usually (phone number)
these 10% usually means "ok Google : I don't care but I want the day to be long"

[sharp oasis]

And keep it above 20%

[wanton orchid]

same goes with fast charging

[sharp oasis]

Fast charing seems to stop after 80%

It very quickly drops in wattage

From 30w to 4w

[wanton orchid]

if you fast charge like crazy you signal your phone that the only thing that matter is the next hours battery life
so it will manage prioritize that over health

[sharp oasis]

I can't really limit my charge speed other then use a smaller block

[wanton orchid]

on Sony parts there is a charge mode setting

so you can tell it to chill when you don't need fast charge

[sharp oasis]

I can only hope adaptive charging can manage it properly

[twin dew]

Or mainly use a smaller current power brick and reserve the fast charge one only for the emergency charges.

[sharp oasis]

I also prolly shouldn't use wireless charging

As last time I had a phone that was able it was. Kinda just super inefficient and made the entire thing overheat

What the whole thing with wireless charging

Why is it so popular

[gilded helm]

Reducing wear on one of the big friction points. Magnetic battery packs. And once magnets are built into more standards that will work for things like tripods, which can then automatically charge devices.

[twin dew]

Easy to use.
But it will lose 20-50% of the electricity as heat on the transfer parts.

[gilded helm]

Definitely on the upper end if it has to go through a case

[wanton orchid]

you mean like titanium recycled case ?

:troll

[sharp oasis]

My phone can't wireless charge due to who thick my case is

[gilded helm]

You might try different chargers, if you encounter other people with them. Not everything can charge my V60 through its double screen case.

[sharp oasis]

My pixel has a really thick rugged case on reverse wireless charging does not function anymore

[twin dew]

Almost forgot! It is Perun PowerPoint Time!

[wanton orchid]

Perun?

[twin dew]

https://www.youtube.com/@PerunAU

[night girder]

@twin dew CPU offset didn't work sadly 😦

[twin dew]

Ok, so probably not CPU then.

What is current VSOC that HWiNFO or like shows?

CPU VDDCR_SOC Voltage (SVI3 TFN)

[night girder]

let me see

[twin dew]

Just under the per core temperatures.

Above the per core power numbers.

[night girder]

1.015

[twin dew]

So stock.
Try setting the VSOC in BIOS to 1.05V and see if that changes things?

SoC/Uncore OC Voltage (VID) in BIOS under the OC Tweaker

[night girder]

Everything is stock normally 😒

[twin dew]

Yes, but wanted to see what the auto was putting.

[night girder]

ah sure 😄

[twin dew]

As the MB auto-raises that if the DRAM frequency is above specific limit

[night girder]

worth a try, in the meantime I am going to prepare for a clean reinstall of OS

btw, not sure if it was a coicidence, but it was after 4 hours.

So yesterday, both crashes occured around 4 hours. The day before it crashed 5 times within 2 hours while I was alt + tabbing and changing GW2 graphics from low to high and vice versa.

[twin dew]

either that or VDDCR_SOC Voltage lower down in same area.

Fixed mode, 1.05V

[night girder]

So, sometimes i am like "this sounds like a memory" leak or "temperature" thingy

So, setting VSOC from 1.015 to 1.05.

[twin dew]

From auto to 1.05V

AMD default is 1.00V or so, but on Auto the MB will autoraise it with DRAM frequency, and MBs used to pump 1.35V by default for 6000MT/s RAM speed.
Now limited to 1.30V max. and MBs usually set 1.25V for 6000MT/s.

If on Auto for VSOC.

[twin dew]

Yup, if it allows for that.

Then there is another setting for the exact same thing lower down...

If that one doesn't seem to be logical.

[night girder]

well time to run GW2 for 4 hours

[twin dew]

Check the HWiNFO again to see that it actually rose to what was wanted.

So 1.05-1.07V.

[night girder]

Seems to have some resistance on it? 😒

[twin dew]

So little under, but no use going to up it again really.

The settings aren't always exact, just that it was before adding extra to it, now it is little under the setting.

But the setting did change the voltage.

[night girder]

other weay around?

now we are adding extra juice to it

1.015 -> 1.040V?

[twin dew]

1.00 gave 1.015.
1.05 gave 1.040

[night girder]

well, auto gave 1.015 🤣

So, this is a memory voltage if I understand?

[twin dew]

No, it is the main voltage for the IO-die.

[night girder]

oh,

[twin dew]

Including memory controller etc.

[night girder]

Mhm... ok.

also I am timing it how long it takes to crash - 0.01% chance is has a pattern.

See? 10-11, it had between 4-5 hours.

09 was a crazy day. Something really funky was going on back that day.

It is the main voltage to increase if your memory controller is not stable or if you are having trouble getting to rated voltage 🤦‍♂️

now I am looking if I can find documentation of what the rated voltages are for the 7600X

Would be helpfull to know if something is wrong with my CPU 😒

[twin dew]

Same for all, 1.00V or so as stock.
And MBs will pump it up to 1.25V or so with 6000MT/s or higher RAM.

And used to pump it to 1.35V or so but that burned out IO-dies.

My first CPU ran 6000MT/s on 1.05V, current needs 1.10-1.15V.

[night girder]

but my ram is 6000Mhz CL36

[twin dew]

But it is on 4800MT/s right now.

[night girder]

or is that totally not related.

[night girder]

ok, yeah it's stock 🤷‍♂️

[twin dew]

Setting the RAM clock to 6000MT/s with VSOC on auto would have caused the MB to set the VSOC probably to that 1.25V.

And up the VDDP from 0.80V stock to 1.15V or so.

And the VDDIO, DRAM VDD and DRAM VDDQ would have been set to whatever the XMP contains, probably 1.35V, when they are on 1.10V right now.

[night girder]

What temperatures can a PSU handle?

[twin dew]

30-50 C intake air temperature depending on PSU at full load, when the fan is working properly.

Seagate usually specs for 40 or 50.

[night girder]

So not 106 degrees?

[edgy hazel]

[twin dew]

No.

[twin dew]

Because your computer doesn't have PSU temperature sensor, as that would need separate cable from PSU to MB.

[twin dew]

The names are generic and this message is crap.

[night girder]

Yeah, herg has a usb C for that.

[twin dew]

It is some MB component temperature.
And can also be just "ghost" sensor that doesn't give any real value.

[night girder]

I just noticed it while I am looking for RAM.

[twin dew]

Would need to cross reference to MB maker temperature monitoring software, or BIOS monitoring.

Might be CPU VRM based on the temperature for example.

[night girder]

wait, the bios does have PSU temperature?

oh like that.

[twin dew]

No, having PSU temperature would need support from the PSU and MB to be a set.
Mostly OEM machine thing.

Or that iCue compatible Corsair lineup.

[night girder]

just want to be sure it's not a memory leak. But that shouldn't hard reset a PC.

[twin dew]

What kind of case cooling do you have?
And what kind of CPU cooler?

[night girder]

System under load.

Lian Li lancool 216 case.

[twin dew]

But that is just the CPU.
There are stuff on the MB that don't often have visible sensors.
And then there is that PSU input air etc.

[night girder]

and Noctua for CPU.

[twin dew]

But air cooling.
And the IOD is only 40C, so the case internals aren't that hot.

[night girder]

And I got GW2 running in the background.

[twin dew]

Seems all those AUXTIN# sensors on that specific board are just unused inputs in the chip that weren't disabled by ASRock like they should have.

[night girder]

I mean, it looks like my case is pretty cool. And lian li is rated as one of the coolest cases because of the airflow and intake fans.

So I backed up everfything to my NAS. Should be ready for clean install of OS if needed.

[night girder]

@twin dew And we crashed

[twin dew]

As somewhat expected, as the thing doesn't really fit into CPU side fault currently.

[night girder]

So, clean OS?

should rule out software side more.

[twin dew]

Not many options.
OS reinstall, part swapping tests.

[night girder]

I don't want to go down the part swapping tests route. Will be expensive AF.

I don't know anyone I can borrow parts from.

[twin dew]

Then it is not really viable thing to do.

[night girder]

You can literally start replacing every single component.

and if unlocky, you got a brand new PC and you replaced every component and turned out to be the last one.

[twin dew]

Yes, when I talk about part swapping, it is about getting loaner parts from friend, and testing the same part in their machine.

[night girder]

Like replace, RAM. Doesn't work. Replace PSU. Doesn't work. Replace CPU. Doesn't work. Replace GPU. Doesn't work. Replace MOBO. Oh, it works. Turns out it was the motherboard

anonther 1K down the drain.

[twin dew]

To see if the problem follows specific part.

Not about buying random replacements.

[night girder]

Yeah 😦

This really sucks.

euhm, what was I doing. Oh right, backing up my save files to NAS to be sure.

[twin dew]

Can try limiting CPU and/or GPU power draw later.

[night girder]

To rule out PSU?

[twin dew]

At least in part.

[night girder]

Yeah, anyway. Thanks for all the help 🙂

Will be gone for a bit, fresh install OS. This time I will just let windows do it's thing with driver updates.

then after windows is done with updating. Install AMD

whql-amd-software-adrenalin-edition-23.12.1-win10-win11-dec5-rdna.exe is ready to go.

[sand saddle]

Someone on oc discord did this. A depressing story.

[edgy hazel]

Anyone got experience booting a raspi from a usb2.0 HDD?

Usable or will it suck more than the SD card?

[twin dew]

AFAIK always needs SD card for at least the boot and firmware partition.

Yup, Pi 1, 2 and 3 need SD Card always, Pi 4 can do USB only.

[edgy hazel]

Hmm

[twin dew]

And even the Pi 4 needs to be started from card once it seems?

[edgy hazel]

Cuz I wanna setup a checkmk server but from what I read this will kill my SD card

[twin dew]

Excessive logging will.
If the logs are written to the card.

But you can have part or all of the OS or just the logging to USB instead.
Even when you have SD Card installed for the basic booting.

So mostly it is just that /var/log and whatever directory the checkmk uses for data files that need to be on the USB disk.

[edgy hazel]

I might just try and run the whole container on usb

[charred pewter]

looks like Letterdiefs issues are still not resolved? 😦

[night girder]

So w11 all up to date. Now drivers.

This time I let microsoft install the drivers with the updates.

[night girder]

It’s hard for me to stay possitive, even couldnt sleep well last night.

Spend most of my time thinking what it could be 😂

[twin dew]

And as GW2 probably would run ok on the IGP, could just remove the GPU and do tests with the IGP if we don't get any other solution on the new OS.

But first these, then TDP reduced tests for CPU and GPU.

[night girder]

After this I can open my own PC repair shop

Might be easier to get spare parts if I own a shop 😂

[charred pewter]

😦

[night girder]

Baldur, dumb question. Bt if I have afrenalin

[charred pewter]

am i the only one in here from USA?

[night girder]

Do i need amd chipset?

[dusk rivet]

I am!

[twin dew]

Yes, they are separate things at this point.

[night girder]

Huh?

[twin dew]

The chipset driver package and GPU driver package.

[night girder]

I went to 7600x drivers and it gave me adrenalin wtf

[jagged snow]

Did you not have chipset drivers?

[night girder]

I went to amd website and couldnt find it anymore wtf

[twin dew]

Long time ago the chipset package included GPU drivers too.
They both install the AMD Software.

[night girder]

I went to driver for my cpu and gpu.

[twin dew]

You went for the IGP drivers.

You need to go for the chipset, not cpu model to get the chipset drivers.

[jagged snow]

You probably went to the drivers for the igpu

[twin dew]

So "Chipsets" for the first selection.
Not "Processors"

[charred pewter]

chipset can sometimes be found on the motherboards support website too ... although im not sure if they are ever 'up to date'

[twin dew]

https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am5/b650

[charred pewter]

like, MSI's support downloads are terrible

[twin dew]

At some points the Asus provided AMD Chipset driver has been newer for AM5 than the one on AMD site.

[charred pewter]

Asus may be better at it than MSI then ...

dont get me started on MSI Live Update ... lol ... never install that ! NEVER NEEEEVVVV... you get the point

[twin dew]

The Asus Armory Crate and myAsus are malware level things too.

[charred pewter]

doh

kinda like Razer Synapse 2.0 😄

[edgy hazel]

I use armory crate

But only for rgb

[twin dew]

It has some parts that would be fine.
But you cannot get just those parts and it installs all kinds of extra crap...

[charred pewter]

is it true RGB can cause systems to crash?

or is it just the RGB itself crashes and stops working

[dire igloo]

Worst thing about my old mouse

[wanton orchid]

icue literally runs like shit just so it can show you 2 lagging buttons with color
and overload your cpu in background
just to setup a static led once

[twin dew]

The RGB control softwares can, the RGB itself not.

[dire igloo]

Even worse than the >110g weight

[charred pewter]

damn

but... but ... RGB means more FPS !!!

[twin dew]

No, it means less, if there is control software running.

And not just using BIOS or like controls.

[wanton orchid]

btw apparently cs2 score tab is parsing player names as part of an html js document

next level shit coding

no wonder cs2 have lagging issues doing shit like that

[charred pewter]

anyone ever remember "GamerDNA" website?

its odd they vanished ..... seems like 'todays kind of jazz' ...

basically it could have been a strictly gamer facebook ...

[twin dew]

Never heard, but with name like that, I would have actively tried to stay away...

[charred pewter]

hehe, it was neat for what it was initially trying ... kind of like a consolidated gamer profile for services so you were not so tied to 'just steam' or the like for the achievements/chat/friends etc

tried to bring it all under one roof and community

[winged valley]

remember back in DDR3 days when we invented RGB RAM and it was killing motherboards because the 5v rail wasn't designed to be used like that

It was either DDR3 or very early DDR4, either way it was funny

[twin dew]

Not RGB as itself, but badly designed RAM that included badly designed RGB then.

Hadn't looked this either before, but the start was great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4syyUiBG5I

[night girder]

it's funny, I documented the configuration of my Windows 11 PC.

and now i can clearly see the changes. For example. teams is no longer installed automatically. I had in my document "uninstall microsoft teams".

but it's not even installed anymore 🤷‍♂️

same for spotify. They announced it in an update. Nice to see these changes.

[edgy hazel]

When the community fork of a project allowing it to run on arm had its last update 4 days ago and not 3 years

[spice shoal]

hi can anyone help to update the dlss version on fh5 manual?

i looked a tuto but im not trusted in myself

nvm i think i made it

smth went wrong..

[night girder]

What is that?

[twin dew]

trying to replace the DLSS dll:s included in some specific game with newer version to get extra features or better quality.

[spice shoal]

yep

btw does forza support fg?

frame generation

[twin dew]

How would we know?
This isn't Forza series related Discord?

[spice shoal]

:D

sure

[twin dew]

But the FG uses separate set of DLLs.

From the upscaling.

[spice shoal]

does fg even work at 2xxx series with dlss 3.5 or only at 4th gens

[twin dew]

Only 4000 series AFAIK.

[spice shoal]

but rr(ray reconstruction) does work on every rtx card with 3.5 right?

afaik

[twin dew]

Check the Nvidia marketing pages?

[night girder]

you understand that by a screenshot?

All I see is Kapali

[twin dew]

From the original message asking the question.

FH5 is probably Forza Horizons 5

[night girder]

I am just wondering what software they were using

because... if there is one thing I know ... know what you are doing... or get rekt.

Hope they know what is what 😅

[spice shoal]

it means off in turkish .d

[night girder]

Haha, ok 😄 Don't mind me. I am struggling with my PC. So I am paranoid atm.

[spice shoal]

np :D

[night girder]

and I have to raid in 2 hours

[spice shoal]

rust?

[twin dew]

Well, it is past Playable already.

[night girder]

Yeah, I know what that means - It means that for every zone you want to enter, it will download all necessary files.

[twin dew]

Does it continue downloading other stuff at same time?

If it does, go in and do the forced loading for all the zones you need as much as you can?

[night girder]

was thinking the same 😉

[edgy hazel]

Now kiss

[night girder]

but then again, do I want to mess with this knowing GW2 is the issue 😆

maybe I should just let it do it's thing.

[spice shoal]

@twin dewshould i delete the old one(3.1.1)

[night girder]

Also, why doesn't AMD allow print screen to be used as a keybind to take screenshots 😦

[twin dew]

Because those three are somewhat lower level than most keys.

[night girder]

how do you mean lower level? Used by microsoft?

can disable that

[twin dew]

Used to be direct to BIOS/OS kernel.
No idea how at this time.

Not passing through normal keyboard drivers etc.

[night girder]

nvidia let me bind print screen.

[twin dew]

So it could be done now then.

[night girder]

hell, even windows snippet is using print screen.

but I cannot bind print screen to take screenshots with AMD adrenaline.

The software just doesn't allow print screen to be set.

[twin dew]

Up to you?
Depends if you need backups of the original files or not...

[pure karma]

realistically is it posible to get a turbo clock on a U series chip whit a turbo clock but thats forcfully disabled and marked as if it dosent exist

i know it exists because the chips boosts to 3.4GHZ/2ghz whenever a new tasks gets started but its limited to the base clock

and 3.4ghz is the turbo spec for the desktop version so it lines up

[edgy hazel]

AAAAAAAA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[charred pewter]

@night girder fix it yet 😄

[night girder]

Downloading the game.

[charred pewter]

oh you did a clean wipe install?

[night girder]

If the game can play longer than 5 hours, there is hope.

[night girder]

Si 😊

[charred pewter]

is this a 'test' clean wipe install where you have everything as you had it before squirreld away on a backup drive?

[night girder]

no no no.

[charred pewter]

oh 😦

[night girder]

Full clean install. Even let windows install drivers.

I am not interfering with anything this time, just to be sure.

[sharp oasis]

I try my best not to let windows install drivers

[night girder]

Yeah, I did that too. But windows installs template drivers afaik.

Was thinking it could be a other driver issue, so I just let it do it's thing.

Just to be sure that it wasn't that.

[charred pewter]

i try to not let windows install nvidia drivers... but if i wait too long on official driver installs, windows tries to sneak in a 'micrococks certified nvidia driver update' .... (which usually lag behind by about a year)

[sharp oasis]

For my gpu at the most I make sure I install my own driver.

Amd or nvidia

[twin dew]

Only single driver version is ever in use.
So the WU installed ones don't matter after you install the manual one.

[night girder]

Maybe there is miscommunication.

I let windows install the template drivers with updates after the clean install of OS. Then I install amd chipset and adrenalin.

[sharp oasis]

I do say I've had issues with adrenaline software panel occasionally completely disappearing or refusing to start

Across multiple reinstalls

[twin dew]

Yes, if you don't let the WU AMD GPU drivers install first, before installing manually.

[charred pewter]

you know that weird behavior i mentioned this weekend where i reboot my macbook, and i couldnt sign in with the external keyboard cause "sign in to use your peripherals" ? .... i cant get it to do that anymore, with or without clamshell mode on restart. its like .... it was a one off issue ?! lol

after many google mixtures of words i cannot even find anyone mentioning this behavior. SO WEIRD

as a side note I wish there was a way to blacklist certain sites in your own personal google search results. I never want to go to a website that tells me to turn off my adblocker and wont let me proceed 😄

[night girder]

wait

you said the macbook said on the login screen you HAD to login to use external devices. Now that's suddenly gone? 😒

And you never answered if you had 3rd party doing the secuirty of your laptop or not. If you have, contact them. Herg made a good point back we had the convo.

[twin dew]

No, it didn't allow using external keyboard to type in password.
Only internal one.
And now external works.

[night girder]

Frigid said it said so on login screen.

That's a feature, not a bug.

👆 If that's true, it's a feature. Maybe the code is on production but not activated and somehow it got enabled.

So still possible buggy behavior of the feature, or external security team enabled it for Frigids company.

[charred pewter]

no ... i said that I had to "Sign in to use my peripherals" which meant i could only use the built-in keyboard on the laptop to sign in, in order to then be able to use my external apple keyboard

and i dont have silent updates enabled with apple software update, nothing has changed on my laptop since before, during, or after... its one of those 🤷 moments with macOS

guessing a race condition with drivers/kernal/software loading on restart

kind of like how some days, RTSS bitches that it could not hook some dll ... yet a restart and its fine

silly question about a UPS ..... just changing out the battery is all that needs to be done, the unit itself should work good for years, right?

[twin dew]

Yes

[charred pewter]

ive got an old "APC BE350R 350VA" from 2008 ...

good for like ... a router ... cant really keep a full computer on it

might be good for just a standard TV too... to help protect it from brownout backlight damage

lol wat? "NOTE: THIS PRODUCT CANNOT BE SHIPPED TO MASSACHUSETTS"

wow, what do those people got against UPS devices 😄

[wide void]

a lot of companies don't like shipping batteries...

[twin dew]

Extra regulations on those usually.

[charred pewter]

i guess, but shipping it out to hawaii is fine

[wide void]

some odd state reg?

[charred pewter]

actually finding a battery for this old thing may be more trouble than its worth...

[wide void]

thats an interesting part of the US, the fact that different states can have different 'rules'

[charred pewter]

yup ... its odd sometimes

[wide void]

if different counties in the UK did that it would be fucking mayhem... lol

[charred pewter]

just like america is 😄

wait, you want to bring ORANGES into the Orange State of California??? NO!!!

cant buy alcohol on sundays in indiana .... wtf guys, ok so i'll stock up saturday =p

and then the gun laws... HELLOOOOOO TEXAS ...... lol

[hardy forge]

Anyone know why my moniter one give me 165Hz

My main moniter has 165 hz but ever since ive moved it, It refuses to give me 165Hz

Only 60HZ

Someone help me out plz, im panicking my ass off over here

[charred pewter]

wrong cable used?

[hardy forge]

Its a display port

Its what i used last time

[charred pewter]

the gpu display refresh rate choice only has 60hz ?

[hardy forge]

Ok soo i switch the slot its giving me 75hz now

[twin dew]

Have you disconnect and reconnected both ends of the display cable?
Have you deleted the monitor in Device Manager and redetected?

[charred pewter]

and by 'moved it' what do you mean... moved it a few inches, moved it across town, moved it to different computer.....

[hardy forge]

I move my setup 90°

[charred pewter]

yeah that shouldnt have done anything! heh

[hardy forge]

BRUH OK now it shoves the 165hz

Soo display port slow 2 is doesnt give 165hz

[twin dew]

Or just detection problem that caused the OS to get wrong information from the display about what it supports?

And reconnecting redid the detection.

[charred pewter]

did you ever have a 60hz only monitor plugged into that other port?

[hardy forge]

No

Just my gpu wierd man,
1 slot gives 60hz, another 75hz and the last gives 165hz, like idk

[twin dew]

With one try each?

And no attempt to clear the displays etc?

[hardy forge]

Its a new moniter -_-

Like 1 week old

[charred pewter]

thats an odd gpu to have that kind of slot restrictions

[hardy forge]

U told you i fixed it lol

Also the gpu is 1 year old, my cousin had it and he cleaned it up new paste and everything and overclocked it for me yoo

Too

[twin dew]

There isn't, but the fucked up display detection can stay until force-redone.

[twin dew]

So it can be completely fucked up right now...

[hardy forge]

Its not

[twin dew]

Because of the last step.
Because most don't bother to actually test the OC properly.

[hardy forge]

My cousin built the pc hes more experienced than me he know what hes doing, he helped me setup it up and everything even install the new ram and gpu,

[visual tree]

Today I realised how human stupidity is truly infinite.

A coworker mentioned how they couldn't install utility poles for running fiber optic cables because the local population revolted and claimed utility poles are used for "monitoring" people

I've heard about 4G/5G conspiracy theories but claiming utility poles made out of wood/concrete are used for monitoring people tops everything I've heard so far

[narrow folio]

Oh you sweet summer child, that's just a rank 1 or maybe 2 conspiracy theory. How about you enter the hidden continent behind the ice walls in the Antarctica that wrap into the earth (or another dimension)

It's hurting really hard when you talk to such people face to face and they either manage to hide the smirk really well or they are just gifted with really mushy grey matter

[visual tree]

The fact that there are many people who blindly believe in this in the 21st century really frightens me

[night girder]

I though we used pigeons to monitor civilians?

[edgy hazel]

raspberry pi more like raspberry bye

I need an amd64 processor

[night girder]

not getting it to work?

[edgy hazel]

using a fork of a fork of a fork of a community project porting checkmk to armv7 is a nightmare

[night girder]

2 hours raid. No crash.

let's see if I can make it to 5 hours

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[night girder]

Herg, you not buying a new PI then?

[edgy hazel]

I'd love to, but it just doesn't make sense. I'm currently using it to learn how to set up server infrastructure, which is difficult because not a lot of servers run arm and therefore a lot of the mainstream software doesn't work

BUUUUTT

[night girder]

raspberi 5: Broadcom BCM2712 2.4GHz quad-core 64-bit Arm Cortex-A76 CPU, with cryptography extensions, 512KB per-core L2 caches and a 2MB shared L3 cache

yes, was about to say that. The new one can do it. But a bit more expensive atm since it's new.

[edgy hazel]

well it's still ARM

[night girder]

yes 😦

[winged valley]

I wonder if RISCV will ever catch up with ARM

[edgy hazel]

which is my whole issue

[night girder]

what is the other thing called again.

[edgy hazel]

checkmk for example doesn't have arm support at all

I need an amd64

[winged valley]

So wait why is x86 referred to as amd64 if intel is the one that licenses x86 out to other companies (such as amd)

Or is amd64 something else

[edgy hazel]

amd were the first to do 64bit for x86 iirc

[winged valley]

That makes sense then

x86 is 32 bit then (which makes even more sense)

[night girder]

Ah, Arduino's! But it doesn't seem that is a solution either.

[edgy hazel]

nah x86 is just the instruction set

[night girder]

there is even a ASUS Tinker Board S, never heard of that.

[edgy hazel]

you have x86 64bit and x86 32bit

[night girder]

and the NVIDIA Jetson Nano Developer Kit is also ARM

right. You have a 32 bit architecture called X86.

but X86 also stand for the instruction set. It always trips me up.

[edgy hazel]

there is also x86 16bit

well... was

[night girder]

Not confusing at all

Second question herg, wouldn't a NAS be something for you?

[edgy hazel]

I already have a NAS

[night girder]

Way more expensive. I know. But way more purposes.

Why not docker on the NAS?

[edgy hazel]

too much sensitive material on there to play around with it

[night girder]

But... docker are containers 😒

sort of virtualization (a secluded OS running within on OS).

[edgy hazel]

I'm currently installing java outside of a container

for example

[night girder]

I still understand you. But I use Docker on my NAS without a worry tbh 🙂

but it's something personally

[edgy hazel]

yes but I would rather not fuck around on a server with all my family photos

[night girder]

fuck, maybe try to find an old PC or something for a few bucks?

can be a fun little project.

[edgy hazel]

we might have a mac mini with an intel at work laying around

so I'll check there, but I won't be in office for the next 2 weeks

[night girder]

gotcha...

[edgy hazel]

I might be able to permanently borrow it for studying

[night girder]

sounds like a nice boss

[edgy hazel]

I learn shit for work and get better and get a nice home server. Win-win

[charred pewter]

👍

shiiiiitake mushrooms!

[jagged snow]

Arc Browser just landed on windows

[charred pewter]

killed my paper shredder..... too many old documents to get rid of ... i hate paper

[night girder]

get a fireplace

[charred pewter]

wouldnt be as bad if these stupid insurance/bank documents didnt plaster my info on EVERY SINGLE PAGE in them

insurance 40 page book on bylaws, and they put my name, address and policy number on every page like they are making it 'personal'

all it tells me, is that 'they have way too much of my money to go and waste on stupid features and custom prints'

[night girder]

UI looks interesting at first glance.

[charred pewter]

Arc Browser "We have the data! (your data, yes, all of it TEEHEEE)"

[charred pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/data-star-trek-gif-5103250

[night girder]

I just wonder what makes ARC browser special. Stand out from the others.

[charred pewter]

hopefully nothing, honestly.... a web browser shall not/should not render anything differently than any other browser.

[night girder]

Firefox is highly customizable

that's where it shines.

[charred pewter]

when firefox added multiple profiles, it became a valid contender against chrome

[night girder]

Like that's from my user.js file for example

[charred pewter]

(for me) ...

[night girder]

But I downloaded user.js from betterfox.

https://github.com/yokoffing/Betterfox

[jagged snow]

It's supposed to be a "everything" browser. It has a ton of integrated features for notes & such that's all supposed to to work towards a "private cloud"

Not for me at all, but it's interesting to see somebody making an attempt at entering the browser space

[night girder]

Cool, yeah they need a sales pitch.

the UI to the left is cool.

[charred pewter]

heheh a built in "Stickies" feature for web pages, so you can add post it notes on a webpage... like, to store your password

[night girder]

Time of truth. Game is running for 4 hours. Never made it to 5 hours

[charred pewter]

heh!

i know! ... talk bad about AMD... lets see how quick it crashes

[night girder]

hehe, can be any component.

can even be motherboard 🤷‍♂️

was talking to Baldur earlier. I am not keen on going to buy new parts 😦

Maybe I should just restart GW2 every three hours to prevent the crash if it's time based.

[edgy hazel]

so it crashed?

[night girder]

not yet.

I was thinking if this clean OS didn't work, I am kinda out of options.

[edgy hazel]

I mean it's running

[night girder]

yeah, but would you like your PC to crash? Randomly while you are enjoying BG3 for example

Hard crashes can lead to other software issues.

[edgy hazel]

so there wasn't a crash since your last clean install

[night girder]

it's only been running for about 4 hours. It mostly crashes between 4 and 5 hours when I am afk.

All I know is, if it survives another hour it's a new record

[charred pewter]

but there are times where its just crash crash crash all within the same hour

[night girder]

yeah, don't know wtf that was.

[edgy hazel]

ohio era

[night girder]

haven't been able to reproduce that. It was when I was switching low settings to high and back and forth.

but even when I switched to low settings it crashed.

[charred pewter]

ive come across many games that crash when im fiddling with their settings too much ... but none actually took the computer down with it

[night girder]

that's what worries me 😒

If it was a regular crash, atleast it would have more information to work with.

[charred pewter]

and no, i wouldnt like to continue playing a game that randomly crashes the whole computer......

[night girder]

yeah, this machine is already being abused 😆

like brand new, had around what, 10-20 crashes, sorry PC 😛

[charred pewter]

dang

[night girder]

does anyone know if you can see a % of memory used of the GPU in HWinfo?

[charred pewter]

ive been using this current rig for a year now, and i dont recall a single bsod

[night girder]

It shows this.

[charred pewter]

you can in msi afterburner

[night girder]

ah thanks. Well not installing 3rd party tools at this moment.

[charred pewter]

😄 hwinfo isnt 3rd party? 😄

[night girder]

adrenalin maybe has the info, let me check

[night girder]

it's portable app on usb, doesn't really interact with the system much.

MSI afterburner is overclocking tool.

[charred pewter]

not the way i use it... im just displaying graphs of all my vitals

[charred pewter]

yeah i wouldnt think GW2 using much vram

[night girder]

I like to have it on a stick. I love portable apps.

[night girder]

wanted to see if it was a leak 😉

[charred pewter]

checked your normal ram usage?

[night girder]

yeah, have HWinfo running in the background

I must say, I like Adrenalin. It looks good.

Think it's better than Geforce Experience.

[charred pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/suck-meter-red-alert-gif-16618160

lol

[night girder]

you like geforce experience?

[charred pewter]

hell no, its in the red on the SUCK METER

i dont even install it

[night girder]

I did for the driver updates. Made life a bit easier.

and I used it to take screenshots ingame.

and sometimes the overlay of FPS etc.

[charred pewter]

i use steam to take screenshots

[night girder]

yeah, that's cool too.

[charred pewter]

even takes a screenshot of what you do in Ansel ...

[night girder]

I just had problems at one point with steam and lose a lot of screenshots.

[charred pewter]

ah, that sucks

[night girder]

and it wasn't backed up in the cloud 😒

it was Tomb Raider.

[charred pewter]

shots i like, i usually send up to steam

[night girder]

oh right, I still have to install steam

[charred pewter]

ive got 1325 screenshots in steam cloud LOL

[night girder]

Thank you steam 😄

[charred pewter]

across 359 games... so thats a rario of 3.6 shots per game (but then theres a bunch of shit games i never play nor take shots on....)

[night girder]

Me too.

[charred pewter]

hmm, my review ratio is only 50% .... i guess im slacking (or that means 50% of the games i have i have not finished/played???!!!)

[night girder]

well the way you review...

[charred pewter]

ive got '62 hidden games' .... those most likely dont have reviews or screenshots 😄

[night girder]

hidden games 👀

[charred pewter]

hay, i do write longer reviews =p

when it matters

[night girder]

also 62?!?

[charred pewter]

but if im just a number in a hundred thousand... i dont elaborate

yes lol

[night girder]

you into waifu games or something?

😆

[charred pewter]

all kinds of crap ... some of it is junk, like the "VR" edition of something ... or the 'Deathmatch' version ...

"Public Beta Client" ...

[night girder]

I got a lot of games from humble bundle

[charred pewter]

many of those too, as i only wanted a couple from the bundle, the rest were 100% shit

like "VVVVVVVVVVVVV" ... wtf

[night girder]

still, it doesn't cost that much so I am fine with it 🤷‍♂️

sometimes you get a good game. You also get 10% discount when you buy games.

[charred pewter]

theres a couple things in here which maybe shouldnt be ... but i guess i really didnt like them enough to toss them in hidden so i wasnt bothered seeing their stupid names anymore in my library 😄

[night girder]

satisfactory is top sold game on humble store a lot 😄

[charred pewter]

heh

like, i put "Sifu" in hidden, cause that game pissed me off so much i dont want to see it!

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/sifu-skill-issue-meme-kung-fu-gif-14355986247254338019

[charred pewter]

oddly, ELDEN RING isnt in hidden .... 🤔 ... hovers over button ... 🦹‍♂️

indeed, Sifu was definitely a lacking skill issue in figuring out the right split second to mash a key on my keyboard in a way that would register just in time to make a block or counter land right ...

[night girder]

maybe try controller?

[charred pewter]

i tried that, but it was worse... anything using 'triggers' has such a long travel time to execute, and then the whole 'camera was shite' with controller issue, i kept not seeing what was going on because of that lol

even that gif you put above... exhibits the shite camera 😄

[night girder]

it looks cool

[charred pewter]

gonna go chow, hope your GW2 stays going !!!!

[night girder]

also the more you die the older you get right?

[charred pewter]

yeah, it LOOKS gorgious .... the art style and stuff, but the combat is brutal unforgiving, and the gameplay loop is 'you die of old age before you get to the end'

[charred pewter]

GORGONOUS

i could never get past the first boss though... i died so many times i died of old age, so it was then i gave up

eh ???? "Adjective. gorgious (comparative more gorgious, superlative most gorgious) Obsolete form of gorgeous."

im obsolete because kids these days keep changing the names and terms of things 😄

[maiden coyote]

adrenalin does have a very nice UI. I think it feels sorta clunky, but it's worlds ahead of this

[charred pewter]

indeed.... nvidias panel is stuck in the 90s

windows95

[edgy hazel]

thank you bing

[maiden coyote]

indeed.

[night girder]

It looks good.

[maiden coyote]

it even has transparency effects to it's UI too.

[night girder]

Yeah, it feels very modern.

[charred pewter]

but then do you want them spending time on a fancy UI, or actually making the drivers work 😄

[night girder]

The last screenshot is even because of an update a week ago. So they are still refining it.

[night girder]

😦

[maiden coyote]

I'm building another htpc for my parents.. I'm probably going to buy a 6400 for it.

[charred pewter]

thats cool

[edgy hazel]

new ui

[night girder]

I disabled adds

[maiden coyote]

feels more like getting fucked. not a fan of receieving, not cool. ~$160 for a 6400 -.-

[night girder]

maybe THAT'S what is happening.

[edgy hazel]

yes AMD is making you crash because you disabled ads

[maiden coyote]

There really isn't another gpu I can use other than a 6400, because low profile. the 550 doesn't have enough vram, and everything else is full height

[narrow folio]

Gigabyte has a low profile 4060

[maiden coyote]

for $315 they can gf'd

all things considered, it's solid performance for a low profile 115W card. there's just no value to it.

I might be wrong. I'd have to rewatch gamers nexus's video on the best values at given price points

I want to say you're better off with the 6700 xt

[narrow folio]

'But... DLSS!'

[maiden coyote]

for some, prehaps.. for me.. I just want to drive a 4k display where the most demanding 3d app is wallpaper engine lol

[night girder]

good usage of a computer

[narrow folio]

I'd go for the 6700xt too, but seems like there is no low profile version

wallpaper engine... How about an Intel arc a380?

[maiden coyote]

that looks like a winner o.o

[night girder]

nice 🙂

only 1 rating. I assume not many people bought it yet.

[maiden coyote]

I think it just came out

[night girder]

would make sense

wonder how well it runs

[narrow folio]

AV1 en/decoding is nice

[maiden coyote]

I think the AM4 motherboard I have will support resizeable bar too? not really sure

[narrow folio]

and drivers have gotten way better since release, so be aware about this when reading older reviews

[night girder]

that's nice to hear

I am actually hoping it goes well for intel 😄

[maiden coyote]

yeah, intel gpu's are mostly useable now.

[night girder]

not that I would buy one soon, just more competition is good.

[maiden coyote]

they're not as stable or well refined as amd or nivida driverwise but from what I understand is they now mostly work

[night girder]

yeah, and it sounds you don't need much.

should be able to run wallpaper engine

[narrow folio]

maybe have a look out for idle consumption as that was kinda bad at release

[night girder]

how do you check that?

[narrow folio]

HWinfo may show it, but I only find older release date reviews mentioning a relatively high idle vs a 6400

https://www.reddit.com/r/IntelArc/s/Yijxdgv3qP

[night girder]

with the screen turned off

[narrow folio]

so there is a fix, but as this is also a few months old maybe there is a better way now?

[jagged snow]

I just found an old build with an nf-a20

I might convert it to a desk fan

Since I have no other use for a 200mm fan

[narrow folio]

Cool desk fan indeed 👍

[night girder]

Latest driver is 2022.

"Asrock Intel Arc A380 Challenger ITX 6GB OC"

[narrow folio]

from the asrock site? I'd say Intel should have more recent ones

[night girder]

I checked Intel. It only had ubuntu 😒

www.asrock.com/Graphics-Card/Intel/Intel Arc A380 Challenger ITX 6GB OC/#Download

[jagged snow]

@charred pewter I know you like these

[night girder]

Check it out.

[maiden coyote]

ooh

[narrow folio]

for real... How!?

[jagged snow]

I have a bunch of old hardwarefrom that Era, I'm going to trow together a xeon build or something netburst as a throwback

[night girder]

www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/227959/intel-arc-a380-graphics/downloads.html

Hope it's a bug.

[maiden coyote]

maybe those are the wrong drivers? or wrong driver page?

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/785597/intel-arc-iris-xe-graphics-windows.html

they might have their driver software bundled into one package for all of their recent graphics products for windows

[night girder]

Check the url's 🤷‍♂️ But yeah they refer to that one.

but only on the asrock website.

[narrow folio]

I have thrown away so much ol' hardware from the 386/486 times... kinda sad, but would have taken too much space

[maiden coyote]

it would seem this applies to all arc/iris cards

[narrow folio]

but still have my PC XT

[night girder]

Intel® Graphics Driver 31.0.101.5074 - makes more sense. That's an update from 3 days ago.

[maiden coyote]

it list the a380

[narrow folio]

yeah, that's reasonable

[night girder]

if you check the Detailed Description, they make solid changes.

That's what I was looking for 😛

[maiden coyote]

google lead me to the same page that letterdief had tho..

[night girder]

Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora* (DX12)
    Up to 8% average FPS uplift at 1080p with Ultra settings
Battlefield V* (DX11)
    Up to 23% average FPS uplift at 1080p with Ultra settings
Crossout* (DX11)
    Up to 5% average FPS uplift at 1080p with High settings
Dishonored 2* (DX11)
    Up to 16% average FPS uplift at 4K with Ultra settings
Dying Light 2 Stay Human* (DX11)
    Up to 31% average FPS uplift at 1080p with High settings
Final Fantasy XV Windows Edition* (DX11)
    Up to 12% average FPS uplift at 1080p with Highest settings
For Honor* (DX11)
    Up to 14% average FPS uplift at 1080p with Extreme settings
Phasmophobia* (DX11)
    Up to 5% average FPS uplift at 1440p with High settings
Train Sim World 3* (DX11)
    Up to 34% average FPS uplift at 1080p with Ultra settings

I mean, seems they are working on it 😄

[narrow folio]

+34% seems like they fkd up seriously prior to the fix

but great for anyone using one👍

[night girder]

important part is: they are developing the drivers

[maiden coyote]

and in 10 years, the only gpu's you'll be able to get are intel or amd

[narrow folio]

true, progress!

[maiden coyote]

nivida completely pulls out the consumer market

[night girder]

yeah wouldn't surprise me

[narrow folio]

yeah, why waste precious dies on lowly consumers

[night girder]

AI is where the money is

[jagged snow]

Speaking of useless hardware, anyone have a need for some 2gb ddr2 unbuffered ecc dimms?

[maiden coyote]

well, they're already making bank on enterprise/data center stuff

[night girder]

that too

[maiden coyote]

so it really wouldn't suprise me if they leave the consumer market and follow the money.

[night girder]

me neither, said it a while back

[narrow folio]

AMD too is hopping on the ai train. and rather successfully as it seems

[edgy hazel]

very depending on if these businesses find out that it's not profitable

all forms of AI are just bleeding money

[narrow folio]

maybe the ai hype train will crash and burn, but it unleashed new technology that's going to stay

[night girder]

it's been in development for a while

The first available paper generally recognized as "AI" was McCullouch and Pitts design for Turing-complete "artificial neurons" in 1943 - the first mathematical model of a neural network.

[narrow folio]

Alice was when? early '00?

[edgy hazel]

i mean openAI is just loosing hundreds of millions of dollars

[narrow folio]

but they have billions thrown at them

[edgy hazel]

true

but it's also not that much

iirc microsofts investment of 10bil was mostly in server time

[narrow folio]

server time...
MS: How much do you need? OpenAI: yes

[charred pewter]

like what?

@night girdercrash yet?

[night girder]

nop

[charred pewter]

how long should a router run before rebooting it ? my Google Nest has been on and running none-stop for a year (its on a UPS, so power outs never affect it)

years ago my Netgear needed a kick in the pants every couple weeks lol

[maiden coyote]

forever

or til it dies

[jagged snow]

Look at the image directly below that message 🤦‍♂️

[maiden coyote]

unifi occasionally pushes updates that'll restart it.. I think the last time I powered it down was because I was moving stuff around that required unplugging it. before that it was like 4 months

but if you have to restart your router.. it has an issue.

[edgy hazel]

might wanna delete that and upload a better censored version

took me like 30 seconds

[maiden coyote]

dm me and see if you got it right.

[edgy hazel]

I just shut down my PC...

[maiden coyote]

I doubt you were able to get the full ip from it.. and if you did.. well I have web facing stuff already. and you're welcome to join my satisfactory server xd

[jagged snow]

Challenge accepted

[edgy hazel]

I have the bad/good habit of not memorizing stuff I'm not supposed to. But I got part and the other shit I can brute force

[night girder]

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-hackerman-kung-fury-gif-7953536

[maiden coyote]

brute force thousands of other ip's looking for one?

[edgy hazel]

The 8/3 stuff is easy to check

[maiden coyote]

I mean, I did tell you there's a satisfactory server. so you could look for it based on that.

[edgy hazel]

True

But I don't wanna learn how to check that

New brute force client: Satisfactory

[maiden coyote]

assuming you knew what port I used. unifi is set to drop packets, not reject. have fun

[night girder]

wtf 😆

[edgy hazel]

Man unify making everyone an infosec expert... This shit ain't fun anymore

Fuck ur easily understandable UI

[night girder]

wait untill AI replaces security experts

[maiden coyote]

AI hackers ):

[jagged snow]

I'll prompt inject your security team

[edgy hazel]

It already does

[night girder]

AI security 🙂

[jagged snow]

wanna guess which would win?

[night girder]

the AI?

[edgy hazel]

But since companies don't give a shit about their security anyways it doesn't matter. They're understaffed even with AI

[night girder]

True.

One of the hardest battles is convincing why secuirty is important.

[edgy hazel]

Can't wait to get into IT Ops backend...

[night girder]

Some companies need to get hacked first before they understand.

[jagged snow]

Even then, they often don't change anything

[night girder]

So frustrating.

[edgy hazel]

Once it hits their profits it's another story

[night girder]

sometimes it's a masquerade

"Yeah yeah, we've implented this and that." ...

[jagged snow]

Did I tell you of the company I interviewed for that was still using exchange 2008 and a firewall that was nearly as outdated?

[narrow folio]

IT is expensive enough as it is and you want to add additional costs for some imaginative things like security?

[night girder]

What a waste of money

[edgy hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[night girder]

One of the companies I worked for got hacked two months after I left it.

[languid gulch]

reinstalling windows somehow set my ram back down to 2133MHz

[night girder]

Didn't work there very long. Could see it comming

[jagged snow]

That's unfortunately accurate...

[night girder]

trust windows.

[languid gulch]

🤣 changed it back to 3200 in bios, no problems

[night girder]

still weird 😒

Didn't know windows did that.

[languid gulch]

might've been something i did in the process, not sure since it wasn't a perfect reinstall

[edgy hazel]

Might be a bios thing

Resetting when it detects a new os

[night girder]

like resetting your bios? =_=

[edgy hazel]

Oh no

[median walrus]

its a new Windows feature, totally intended to increase performance

[languid gulch]

lol no, thankfully didn't need to do that

just went from a sata ssd to nvme

& now my system isn't quite so frankensteiny

[night girder]

nice!

[languid gulch]

installing a new nvme & a new HDD means i was able to remove 4 other drives

[jagged snow]

Man, that jump made even more of a difference than I ever thought it would. It wasn't nearly as stark as going from an hdd to flash in the first place, but it was still significant

[languid gulch]

i haven't reallly made it stretch its legs yet, & i have my steam games on an nvme already, so idk if i'd see too much of a difference

& yea, going from spinning rust to SSD was incredible

[edgy hazel]

Man I need to have my OS on an HDD again just to feel something

[languid gulch]

i gave one of my laptops a solid extra 2 years doing the ssd transition

before i deep fried it 🤣

[night girder]

hehe, a laptop on life support

[languid gulch]

i'm so glad i finally stopped being a poor college student burning up hardware trying to do things on it that there's no way in hell it was ever going to be able to do

i tried doing KSP on a laptop with an iGPU back in 2014

[languid gulch]

& i'm good for probably the next 2-3 years easily with my current hardware. which makes things like "my washer died on laundry day" not quite so bad

the good news is that by some miracle the stand for the new one is unnecessary. exact same model as i have now, so it saved me $300

the bad news is that i have to use my sister's samsung PoS for another week

[edgy hazel]

Welcome to the real PC gang I guees

[languid gulch]

🤣

still tempted to get a 5800X3D if it drops to like $225

[edgy hazel]

DDR4 gang

DDR5 is new im conservative like that

[languid gulch]

now that'd be an amazing mutant platform. AM4 with DDR5

[edgy hazel]

(also my 5800x3D is only a year old)

[jagged snow]

I somehow managed to loose one of my nicest ddr3 sticks

I'm reorganising the workshop and I can only find one out of the pair

[edgy hazel]

DDR3 more like Dance Dance Revolution

3

[gilded helm]

Looks like Tesla is going to try and test First Sale Doctrine.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/12/tesla-again-threatens-to-sue-cybertruck-buyers-who-try-to-resell-the-cars/

[languid gulch]

i think i'd take a Pontiac Aztek over that

[gilded helm]

You'd probably be safer in the Aztek

[languid gulch]

so would pedestrians

[gilded helm]

Tesla won't be able to hide from real crash data once it starts coming in.

[edgy hazel]

As far as I know the cyber truck is the most unsafe vehicle released in the last 10 years

[languid gulch]

idk how they'd be able to put it on the streets without that data already known

[edgy hazel]

0 crunch in any crash tests

[languid gulch]

watch it be worse than a 1975 Jeep Wrangler

[gilded helm]

48V is interesting though

[edgy hazel]

It breaks its rear axle on a 50mph frontal crash **in a testing environment **

[languid gulch]

maybe it'll be so shit that congress will finally have to take action to standardize electric vehicles

[gilded helm]

The Cybertruck doesn't become safe with any sort of powertrain

[edgy hazel]

Stainless steel and bullet proof windows are great in an EV

You're giving the firefighter absolutely 0 options to save you

[languid gulch]

darwin award recipient, & the species shall benefit

[edgy hazel]

And they need to save you since you already broke your spine in the accident

Have you seen the footage?

[languid gulch]

looks like a 1985 cadillac

at best

[edgy hazel]

You're safer in a tank in urban warfare than in a cyber truck

[languid gulch]

the roof not deforming is about the only half decent thing about it

i wonder how many pedestrians getting cleaved in twain will happen before a recall

[edgy hazel]

Makes it easier for your wife to sell the car after you died

[languid gulch]

i can't wait to see the owners who don't give a shit about reselling it take them all out to the desert & burn them for the views

i'd love to see a standardized wheel hub power unit

[edgy hazel]

FirstWeFeast being in my yt shorts is horrible

I want burger

[maiden coyote]

that is ALOT of weight for those poor dollies.

I would not do that to my equipment. cyber truck is probably 6000lbs

6603. til

[maiden coyote]

EV's are just bad all around. they catch fire, they weigh twice as much as a comparable vehicle. for the people who have to clean up after someone wrecks one, there's no solid places to hook to, other than the a-arms. if those are compromised you're sol.

[languid gulch]

EVs as designed right now are 1 step above garbage. we need real, enforced regulation to make them not crap

[maiden coyote]

bulletproof stuff won't really slow down the FD if they're able to approach the vehicle.

the jaws of life don't care if it's stainless or bulletproof or not.

[edgy hazel]

Bulletproofing doesn't affect the security of the battery

Which is the issue with EVs atm

[languid gulch]

right now EVs remind me of going to car museums & classic auctions & seeing all the cars from 1890s-1930s & the ZERO commonalities & 0 shared standards that need to take place to make a good car

[edgy hazel]

BTW if you're into chemical stuff consider going into battery research

[maiden coyote]

the batteries are pretty tough I think.. It's just a matter of kinetic energy.

if you've got 6k pounds hitting a pine tree at 60mph the tree will win. and the tree will apply that force to a very small area.

[edgy hazel]

Nah getting away from lithium should be our first priority

[languid gulch]

i think every electric car or plugin hybrid should come with a 10m^2 solar mat that you can just unroll anywhere to charge if you need to

[jagged snow]

That would be pretty great

Tbh I'd just like to see honest marketing and reasonable pricing as a first step

[languid gulch]

throw it in that otherwise useless frunk that nobody ever touches

[maiden coyote]

saturday I had a recovery where guy hit a pine tree headon going lord only knows how fast... the tree was where the center console would normally be in his truck..

[languid gulch]

just call it a wood inlayed dash

sorry

[maiden coyote]

...and he had a kid with him :/

[jagged snow]

It went back to a stick shift

[maiden coyote]

I did. there was bark allover the interior of the truck.. I had a laugh or two over it

[jagged snow]

It's one thing to endanger yourself, and nobody can really stop you from doing that... but endangering other people is where I draw the line, especially kids

[edgy hazel]

People pay a lot of money for that

[languid gulch]

the natural aesthetic

& yea, endangering a kid like that should be instant prison unless it was the car doing something uncontrollable

[maiden coyote]

Yeah, that's what got me fucked up. I don't really care much about the drivers, fatality or not they made that decision.

Well... they don't have to worry about going to jail.

[languid gulch]

yeesh

[maiden coyote]

they're not worried about anything actually.

[jagged snow]

Oh, so it was a fatality? Know anything about the kid?

[languid gulch]

hate to see it happen, but also idk if that kind of wreck would be something i'd want to survive.

[maiden coyote]

kid was critical last I heard. they air lifted both of them to the hospital.

[jagged snow]

Bummer

[maiden coyote]

driver was doa enroute to the hospital.

[edgy hazel]

Whew imagine if there was some sort of heavily regulated form of transport, maybe one that has to follow a specific path to avoid driving into a tree or other objects.

I mean maybe we could also make it transport a lot of people at the same time to be more efficient.