And then up from there.
#off-topic-tech
twin dew
wanton orchid
weirdly does not apply to 16Gbit ones
twin dew
8Gbit R and 16Gbit R have nothing to do with each other.
Each of the size lines are completely separate.
twin dew
Like I said here
For Micron they seem to try to match them somewhat based on the gaps in the revisions etc.
But they are even then just adjucent developments.
So for R die, they added that MBIST test result based Post Package Repair operation.
To switch the MBIST failing rows for spare rows automatically
sharp oasis
Ay. How much can using the pbo scalar affect the health of my processor
twin dew
No-one knows.
sharp oasis
Damn.
As using it atm at 6X temps are fine
As well as voltage is in a tolerable zone
1.231v
twin dew
It should mostly affect the voltage derate with temperature.
wanton orchid
R 16 have the smallest die of all other 16 chips
twin dew
Yes? Because it uses newer process node probably.
wanton orchid
yep
twin dew
That is the point of the revisions, to make the dies cheaper to manufacture.
sharp oasis
It's not as super burst speed and keeps that high speed but not burning hot at 81c
twin dew
And the 6x isn't probably doing much at that point.
But like I said, the details are TSMC and AMD internal.
twin dew
TSMC has formulas to calculate how fast the silicon is expected to degrade in conditions, with temperature, voltage etc. as inputs.
And AMD wants certain lifetime.
And that FIT lowers the wanted lifetime in the formula in a way.
And allows higher voltages at certain temp & load, for higher frequency.
sharp oasis
Making a much more stable score on cpuz instaid of hitting 5k and quickly falling down to 4.4k it hits 5k and drops a bit to 4.8k
wanton orchid
sustained burst
sharp oasis
Closing the monitor app puts it at 5k constant
And swapping the process to real-time gets us 5100MC and 630SC
wanton orchid
VLP stands for very low profile ?
wanton orchid
damned
twin dew
Normal is 31.25mm high.
wanton orchid
very tiny
twin dew
Basically the same height as the locking tabs on the slots.
sharp oasis
Now I just have to beat my ryzen 5 5500 record of 11300pts on cinabench R23
At like 30c less temp and wayyyy less voltage
Hmm
Apparently setting cinabench as high priority is making the system prioritize it over even GPU drivers
Screens went blank for a sec
twin dew
Yes.
Using RealTime for anything using lot of cores is just idiocy.
sharp oasis
I didn't use real-time I used very high lol I guess same effect
twin dew
Ok, lesser effect.
Realtime is same priority or higher as the very basic Windows kernel stuff that keeps the OS up.
High is same as normal time critical stuff.
For the OS functions.
Don't go above Above Normal for multicore benchmarks.
sharp oasis
The drivers stop working for a sec and now the case lights are off lol
I can't stop it atm
twin dew
twin dew
Check the link I put, 210702pt in same.
wanton orchid
single socket btw LMAO
twin dew
6250MHz on 96 cores.
sharp oasis
Sorry autocorrect
twin dew
No-one has bothered to test, because it wouldn't compete with Intel LN2 OCs.
wanton orchid
192 threads
twin dew
1821 by DogFace, on 5108MHz
With some normal air cooling solution.
Basically no OC, just ran the test part of some basic prep.
wanton orchid
What's that things Singlecore score
it's not made for that
it's made to be a powerhouse, amd consumer grade cpus are more tuned for single thread performance
sharp oasis
ik i wanted to know for the silly
wanton orchid
if you only want to use 1 off 96 cores, it's not great to manufactur a cpu that expensive
sharp oasis
tho @twin dew HOW IS MY CPU staying at 62c duing full load
twin dew
ik i wanted to know for the silly
Unfortunately no-one doing those LN2 OCs bothered to run SC testing.
sharp oasis
im in confusion
how did i shed 20C and better pref out of my cpu
i also did shed 30w as well fo powerdraw
wanton orchid
there are no 1x thread R23 registered on hwbot
sharp oasis
from 120 ish w to 90w
wanton orchid
wait what, the website brok
twin dew
Because there hasn't been runs on CPU with only single core, total.
You need to select the 96x for the 7995WX results
R23 is too new, and there just isn't single-core CPU that can run it probably.
Because when was last one made?
wanton orchid
I remember the old days of LN review of top cpus with how many minutes for pi
then there is this
wth
new streamer meta
freaking hell
they went with my target settings (cl 17 3600Mhz 1.39V)
fine
looks promising, I will wait price to drop a bit more though
sharp oasis
13600K and 3060 the next new will rd build fad
I'm seeing freinds say it's a perfect no bottleneck build
tough owl
pure karma
13600K and 3060 the next new will rd build fad
yea i was honestly considering just case swapping my AW and then just throwing in a 3060 instead of the 1660 super shitfest of a card because the 1660 super just dosent let that 10700F shine at all
mostly looking for a small decent performance system and tough that may be a good idea
sharp oasis
I mean a 10700 doesn't shine period now
I don't even think 11th Gen even shines much either
pure karma
still hold up better than most chips in use
sharp oasis
They both got curbstomped by ryzen 5000
pure karma
anything 8 core or higher is better than most people no matter the speed
sharp oasis
Albeit they are okay chips
sharp oasis
anything 8 core or higher is better than most people no matter the speed
Ehh for gaming no
pure karma
but yea single core speed capabilities are getting quite low
narrow folio
you don't always have to have the newst shiny tools, decently recent is usually enuogh to have fun
pure karma
3.4GHZ is nothing perfect anymore
sharp oasis
Most games don't require much more then 4 cores and most 6 core cpus are more then enough for modern games
sharp oasis
you don't always have to have the newst shiny tools, decently recent is usually ...
Oh ofc
pure karma
you don't always have to have the newst shiny tools, decently recent is usually ...
yea exactly its still enough to play any game available rn paired whit a good gpu
sharp oasis
I mean I do not have anywhere near the newest shit
narrow folio
I played satis with a 3770 until a few months ago
sharp oasis
I played satis with a 3770 until a few months ago
I used to
pure karma
i was considering geting two 1440p monitors cuz i have one borowed one and one dead pixel creating machine 1080P monitor RN
but running 3840x1080P resolution on a few games for a general idea of expected performance made me lose hope lol
sharp oasis
I get all core turbos of 4.62ghz on cinabench and that is much more satisfactory then the Act of 4.51ghz
narrow folio
3060 feels low for 1440p
pure karma
37fps on a 4070TI whti dlss enabled on my most gpu intensive game is very Meh at half the pixel count of 4K
sharp oasis
I barely break 60C at full tilt
And maintain the prefomance of a 12400 non f
Or close to
pure karma
i should really learn how to undervolt my cpu...
sharp oasis
But much cooler and with much more effefficney
pure karma
thats why it runs so hot but i also dont wanna break anything else
pure karma
well im prettysure intel has a in desktop overclocker but idk if it can do voltage
but its quite dummy proof so it may just be what i need
sharp oasis
If I have a 10X pbo scalar and a - 20 curve does that mean I have a - 200 voltage curve
narrow folio
hm, talking about power... just looked at the sensor readings from my psu and my idle for the entire system is around 125W? seems high^^
sharp oasis
but its quite dummy proof so it may just be what i need
I mean I almost busted 2tb worth of data
Bclk ocing my 5600
Yeah don't bclk oc
narrow folio
isn't bclk on am4 tied to pcie clock?
narrow folio
yeah, hello data corruption
narrow folio
is this a thing for AM4? thought that is only since AM5
sharp oasis
It's available for AM4 on select mobos
pure karma
would this perhapse do the trick cuz it seems somewhat promising
narrow folio
nice detail from the portal rtx edition, found as junk in some corners
well, time for 🛏️
good night💤
pure karma
To want a undervolt
yea im assuming that would be under advanced but that seems to be locked and probably for the better
sharp oasis
yea im assuming that would be under advanced but that seems to be locked and pro...
Honestly
I don't completely reccomend
But how I learnt what I know now is from messing with all sorts of advanced settings with minimal knowledge
It's the expensive and really shitty route
pure karma
well atleast its an effective teacher
sharp oasis
But there's alot of people here that can help you with these settings
Try not to kill your cpu
Because mine gives abouy half the pref, at a 3rd of the power draw
pure karma
i guess a good way to just learn this way would be getting a overclockable shitbox and just flinging shit at it until it works
asuming its like a 500-750$ or even less it wont break the bank as much but still will work generally the same
sharp oasis
i guess a good way to just learn this way would be getting a overclockable shitb...
I mean I killed a 5500 a good cpu but not a super Uber power cpu
maiden coyote
I played with ryzen master until I got a 15k score on cinebench with my 5800x. Then I stopped.
pure karma
the problem is the cheapest desktop cpu i own is the 10700F and its locked
i dont really have any useless extra parts
other than the 1660 super thats allready on deathrow so who cares and maby the AW's kit of ram cuz its only a 2933MHZ kit
i dont really have any hardware that i dont care about or plan to get rid of
i do kind of want to play around whit the 1660 super to see what i can get out of it tho...
its allready close to its limit just not in a proper way
the only thing keeping it from shutting itself off from the oc is probably the power limiter
gpu overclocking is probably the simplest form of overclocking but its a good starting point
maiden coyote
Cheapest still being like $200 on Amazon):
pure karma
dang i forgot how loud having 3 fans instead of 10 was
i cant even hear the AW i tough it dident even turn on
compared to the H9 that i can still hear 2 rooms over
at idle
bruh the AW under a cinebench workload is still 3x less loud than the H9 at idle thats kinda just sad
pure karma
im seeing some very interesting results
almost seems like a lack of PSU watage but its literally imposible
if the CPU goes up GPU comes down from the previous clock
if GPU score goes up CPU score goes down
funny enough i have gotten Night Raid to run at about 80% of the 4070Ti's performance and framerate on the 1660 super and it still has a bit more up its sleeve
have just broke 80K score started at 75K
+250MHZ +20% Voltage did it lol
gave up only at that point
but it had full stability at +200MHZ +20% voltage
the card simply cant draw enough power to go harder
just simply blackscreens and than the system restarts on its own like 15 seconds after
well heres the info i got
nothing huge but its nice to see how the 10700F reacts seeing how its ussually bottlenecked by the 1660 super
started at 75 651 and clocked my way up to 80 725
whit minimal effort
i think if i really cared and tried harder i could perhaps achieve 85K
sharp oasis
@pure karma your still using the old half working cooler right
pure karma
wdym?
sharp oasis
On the 13700k
pure karma
yea
pure karma
but i was benching the 1660 super there
sharp oasis
Fair
If your working on ur cpu ever again
Replace that cooler
The only reason my cpu is able to stay super cool
Is bc my cooler is working properly
sharp oasis
@twin dew changing my cpu bas clock to 1.6ghz
Wait
Does that override pbo
It does
Shit
Is there really no more prefomance I can gain
Is this all of it
twin dew
<@994445356047810581> https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/122pi87/iss...
Forgot to check, what CPU and which manufacturer MB? Preferrably model too.
Ah, sorry, 5900X CPU, so that is ok for ECC.
Because MSI and Gigabyte don't support RAM ECC.
They don't have the extra data lanes needed in the PCB.
steel peak
any networking guys, if i want vpn server at home, would i do that on my router or would i get a separate device for that
twin dew
Depends how much performance you want and what kind of router you have.
steel peak
well i only got 30Mbps upload
twin dew
And the the VPN server options the router support are enough.
twin dew
well i only got 30Mbps upload
But I have no idea how high bandwidth your routers CPU can support for the VPN server(s) it has.
twin dew
Also depends on if yoy trust the routers firmware to keep updated when new security problems are found in the VPN software in use for the VPN server.
I'm not going to try to find you performance numbers, when you can just test by trying to use the Router VPN server?
twin dew
So you first consider if the router can do it or not.
Including the security and performance aspects for the specific one.
And if that is good enough, try to use it.
And only if it doesn't match what you want, then you can go with separate.
narrow folio
i got ddwrt on it rn
the firmware offered on the ddwrt site is from 2020... I'd recommend a switch to a more recent openwrt
twin dew
ddwrt is effectively dead.
And it was on life support since 2015 or so? Or even earlier?
Lot of things happening when WLAN G was the greatest thing ever.
But already near dead when N came around.
Had moments of revival since then, but not enough people interested in actually maintaining and developing the main branch.
narrow folio
my guess is that most developers from ddwrt went to openwrt
twin dew
Ah, DD-WRT has gone company, with paid for "get for your device", officially just for companies, but probably lessening the amount of interest in doing free device specific support for the free versions.
DD-WRT changelog page on their Wiki was last updated in 2008.
They have automatic timeline thing about commits, but the commit documentation is crap so the timeline isn't help to anyone not dev in the project.
gleaming shadow
Hey baldur,
My bios finally came out of beta to aesga 1.1.0.0 with that I can do the xmb profile again from my ram? Up from 1.0.0.0b
twin dew
You can try.
gleaming shadow
We had a talk about it some time ago, I had crashes you pointed out it was my xmb, I was happy
twin dew
But yes, Asrock put out 2.0 BIOS versions with 1.1.0.0 AGESA couple of weeks ago, and you should probably update to that anyways, and then try if XMP is now stable or not.
gleaming shadow
Aight, gonna try tonight, any tips on the settings? Can I cross reference it with you? I don't wanna impose
maiden coyote
any networking guys, if i want vpn server at home, would i do that on my router ...
If you decide to go the separate device route, from what baldur has said it might just be better to replace your router. You can keep your router and use it as an access point and get something like this for your gateway. it has openvpn&wireguard built in
narrow folio
Unifi has some nice hardware and supposedly good software support
I'm considering getting some APs from them, but with WiFi 7 around the corner I'll wait a bit to see how that will impact the prices of the current gen
maiden coyote
once you get too the point of needing new hardware to do x or y with networking. like configurable firewalls, vpn, etc. it becomes a very attractive choice vs buying and building your own hardware.
wanton orchid
Because MSI and Gigabyte don't support RAM ECC.
They don't have the extra data l...
it's a server board with 3200mtps 32gb ddr4 ecc stick in qvl
it's basically better made for ecc than none ecc
twin dew
Ok, then.
Just was about the consumer boards.
On which ASRock and Asus mostly support the ECC, and MSI and Gigabyte only allow use of ECC DIMMs, but the ECC cannot be enabled as the traces are missing.
maiden coyote
asrock rack if your pockets feel heavy.
ryzen 7000 supports ecc doesn't it? so something like this can be loaded with ecc dimms
twin dew
And the ASRock Rack firmware support for the AM4 boards has been abysmally slow and might have ended already.
maiden coyote
Yeah, that board is am5.
twin dew
Yes, but the AGESA for AM5 doesn't currently contain anything but the most basic ECC support.
No error reporting or any settings except enable/disable.
And on Auto it defaults to disabled.
And this was about upgrading RAM on existing system to ECC
wanton orchid
And the ASRock Rack firmware support for the AM4 boards has been abysmally slow ...
that's the worst point about asrock rack imo
twin dew
Last BIOS for their X570 board models is from year ago, with AGESA 1.2.0.7.
And same for BMC, and they have had several security alerts for BMC remote flaws since then.
wanton orchid
Yes, but the AGESA for AM5 doesn't currently contain anything but the most basic...
I believe thread ripper pro boards will push the ecc options support
wanton orchid
Last BIOS for their X570 board models is from year ago, with AGESA 1.2.0.7.
And ...
I never trust bmc networking
I always put it in physically separate network
twin dew
Yes, but still would be nice to get updates.
wanton orchid
Not the AM5 one.
I mean the reporting logic is similar
twin dew
And the Zen 4 EPYC AGESA has had it, but the AM5 doesn't at this time.
Will come at some point, but when is question.
It was same for AM4 at start, ECC wasn't in at all at first, then without reporting and options.
Then fully.
AM5 is currently at the stage where it works, but no error reporting, and on uncorrectable error the firmware reboots the computer with no warning to OS.
And no configuration options beside the on/off.
First thought that when the Ryzen 7000 Pros came out, with official ECC support, the AGESA would be updated with proper ECC support.
But 1.0.0.7c doesn't have.
Haven't checked the various beta AGESAs yet.
Waiting for Asus to get the 1.1.0.0 out of Test status.
To even Beta.
On AM5 the CPU cache MCEs work.
IF doesn't, RAM ECC doesn't.
wanton orchid
Ok, then.
Just was about the consumer boards.
On which ASRock and Asus mostly su...
on a side note about my setup
finally I think getting 2Cx2Dx2Rx8cx8Gb working at 3133mt/s
is actually promising
would be easier to go up with 2x1x2x8x16
that is Samsung b-die though
wanton orchid
I increased VSoc a bit
vdimm is 1.39
vddp I can't really change it
wanton orchid
what way vddp should change
I'm always surprised vddp is so much lower tha than vdimm
twin dew
It is part of the memory controller voltages.
Default probably at 0.85 or so?
So try upping it in 0.05V steps and see if that allows for higher frequency.
It isn't automatically changed based on VDIMM, even when it AFAIK should be in relation to VDIMM.
And in turn the MB:s usually raise VSOC and VDDP too much on auto when you go past 3200MT/s RAM speed.
wanton orchid
I offset control the VSoc
the asrock rack firmware get it very low
so I offset it +15m
vddp is set at 900 stock iirc
twin dew
For example on my AM5 MB, default is 0.80V, MB puts it auto to 1.15V on 6000 MCLK.
0.95V was enough for it.
Same with VSOC.
Default is 1.00-1.05V, with 6000MCLK MBs put it to 1.35V, and now put to 1.25V.
1.05V was enough on the old CPU and the current one needs 1.15V.
wanton orchid
the problem I had is vsoc changes kicks in way too late
so it's not enough to load the new settings at 3200
which is very frustrating
twin dew
But those voltages are something that needs to be done per CPU.
wanton orchid
had bad luck with lower voltage
I think it was running 1000 stock
I pushed it 1015
but does not kick early
twin dew
Point was that the right one depends on the CPU.
And there is usually sweet spot, where going above will start to lower the max settings.
wanton orchid
I do it the baby step way
always
twin dew
And just 0.015V raise is trivial.
0.05V steps are the common one.
Up to 1.25V.
wanton orchid
especially since I don't have cmos button and settings loads too late
twin dew
And often going above 1.15V will already start the negative scaling with 5000 series IOD.
twin dew
Can depend on the amount of ranks and dimms too
So remember that most RAM OC guidance is for 1x 1R per channel.
wanton orchid
more dimm put more pressure so I instinctively increased power instead of reducing it
twin dew
Because more capacitance etc. so you need more voltage and power to drive the BUS.
wanton orchid
yep
twin dew
And if you have one of the ASRock Rack AM4 boards, know that on several of them the VDIMM setting doesn't actually do anything.
At least the X570 ones have fixed 1.2VDIMM regulator.
The control is just copied from the consumer side and doesn't work.
Cannot be changed without HW modification to set it to another voltage level with resistor swap.
charred pewter
holy cow this new travel mouse i bought has a serious high whine when i move the mouse (the red laser wakes up)
its like earrape digging in high pitch
jagged snow
Oh that's miserable
twin dew
Still using this thing for laptop: Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000
Great except the battery life, but it uses two standard AAA batteries.
Non-LE BT is power hungry.
charred pewter
ah
yeah i may grab a wireless ... cause all the wired offerings for usb-c mice were ... well, i ended up with this Lenovu which honestly has multiple design flaws
twin dew
Point with that is also that it is unused for so long times that something with Li-ion battery and no real power switch would just die.
edgy hazel
You heard of a thing called a trackpad?
twin dew
That is the point, I use just that most of the time when using the laptop.
But some things are paint without separate mouse, so have one just in case with separate batteries.
charred pewter
using a 'trackpad' to try and do rapid work is a PITA and fuck that
its the whole point of buying a mouse lol
twin dew
So needed small mouse for having just in case.
And that one didn't have cable to break, didn't need separate dongle to lose and used standard removeable batteries so it can be just left laying.
Probably.
charred pewter
heh right clicking on trackpad is almost as awkward and annoying as using a magic mouse 😄
twin dew
The "doesn't last long" is like few weeks of 12h day usage.
With non-rechargeable ones.
Mean active usage, as it too goes into power saving mode if not touched.
And has real power switch at bottom.
No real lag on waking tho.
So not that good power saving mode.
As in power saved vs full active.
As it is keeping itself responsive.
charred pewter
yeah
its one of my usual complaints on the wireless ... shaking it awake each time i went to type some code for a few seconds 😄
wanton orchid
Cannot be changed without HW modification to set it to another voltage level wit...
BTW I'm still pissed off the board does not load bios VSoc until fully posted
so you can't post with high speed
it's stupid
twin dew
Not really meant for OC.
And the whole firmware is mostly from the server line, with some consumer side parts badly grafted on for the AM4 support.
I do own X570D4U-2L2T
Just for the IPMI/BMC.
charred pewter
you own a keyboard mash ? 😄
twin dew
X570 chipset, D4 for AM4 (IIRC), U for Micro-ATX, 2L2T for 2x 10Gbit and 2x 1Gbit LAN.
Ok, the D4 is something else.
As the AM5 boards are AM5D4 starting, some intel boards are D4U etc.
twin dew
Might be related to width, with D8 being the wider than ATX standard formats.
wanton orchid
I half understand what all this means
they are talking about a small server motherboard reference name
and splitting the name down with the motherboard basic architecture
twin dew
And don't remember if 2T or 2L was the 2x 10Gbit. Probably 2T, and in that case I said it wrong in previous message.
steel peak
the firmware offered on the ddwrt site is from 2020... I'd recommend a switch t...
:despair:
how do you keep up to date with all these
narrow folio
as in I use openwrt on my AP and thus check IT news sites often, click on news about openwrt if they pop up and Google learned that I'm interested in those news and now my newsfeed automatically shows news about a newer version
sharp oasis
Looks like I'm gonna have to go thru the week long process of ocing my ram further
Cpu, rather unsatisfingly is maxed out
I can go static oc
I don't want to
There might be a beta bios laying around
For my mobo
That allowed +400
edgy hazel
We Fritzbox in this mfer
narrow folio
Hipsterbox 
Nah, Fritz is working fine. I just don't like the software
Budget?
needed/wanted speed
more LAN ports via switch are a possibility
2.5G yeah, but not for this price
Mini-PC with 2,5G running your favourite Firewall
10G is available since... 20 years?
jagged snow
Yeah, now that we're getting wan speeds of gig as commonplace, I'd really like to see home networks operating on 2.5 or 5 gig
night girder
pretty sure we live in the present, not the future 😉
floral lion
With amazon having black friday and cuber monday up coming (or its currently going on? Idk the ads have been confusing) im going to start looking at new ram, i plan to upgrade from dual 8 gig sticks to dual 32 sticks
narrow folio
5G has the same problem as 10G, using too much power
jagged snow
5G has the same problem as 10G, using too much power
That only really matters for mobile devices
narrow folio
depends, who wants active cooled switches and routers at home?
twin dew
And node improvements have bought the power per port down from 10+W per to around 2-4W IIRC?
For 10GBase-T
jagged snow
depends, who wants active cooled switches and routers at home?
I wouldn't care at all if my router had a little 40mm fan in it
narrow folio
I'd like my 24/7 devices to be as silent as possible
night girder
wasn't it the other way around?
twin dew
AFAIK most TP-Link network products have oversized buffers and cause buffer bloat.
At least used to be the case.
night girder
asus is also goddam ugly when it comes to routers.
twin dew
wasn't it the other way around?
TP-Link has both more expensive almost-enterprise stuff, and then dirt cheap consumer crap.
jagged snow
I have had extremely bad experiences with their consumer stuff
twin dew
But yes, most of the current Asus models are just useless design wise, with all the antenna all over.
jagged snow
I have had extremely bad experiences with their consumer stuff
That's what my isp supplied and the router wasn't actually capable of 1 gig on lan ports
jagged snow
That's what my isp supplied and the router wasn't actually capable of 1 gig on l...
Tops out at about 650 megs
To a point, yes
twin dew
Not really, when no client can use that many streams.
So only in Mesh systems.
night girder
Yes, if you turn around your router. You have a spider.
twin dew
Most phones are just single stream, and most laptops etc. are dual-stream.
Triple-streams were available for laptops at one point, and then died away.
So I just got RT-AX56U.
Only if all of them support MU-MIMO.
So all would need to be AX, in theory AC.
jagged snow
I have been extremely pleased with my netgear products
twin dew
So if you don't have mesh, 2x2 AX AP is enough in actuality.
edgy hazel
Nah, Fritz is working fine. I just don't like the software
Then go buy your polished UI Unify stuff you bougie mf
narrow folio
too little sleep today?
edgy hazel
Fritzbox is blue collar working man hardware
twin dew
The highest antenna count and marketing number things have 2x2 or 3x3 2.4GHz AP, then two 4x4 5GHz APs.
twin dew
And the 6GHz isn't legal anywhere but US at this time AFAIK.
night girder
The linksys Hydro Pro 6E is also a possible candidate maybe for you. Really depends on what you look for Maxeek.
twin dew
So WiFi 6 vs. WiFi 6E with the 6GHz channels doesn't matter anywhere but USA at this time AFAIK.
But checking again.
narrow folio
Austria: 6E available
twin dew
U-NII-5 band is available as LPI/Low-power indoor or VLP very-low-power in EU. for 3x 160MHz adjucent.
So 480MHz vs 1200MHz in US.
And much lower power limits.
wanton orchid
And don't remember if 2T or 2L was the 2x 10Gbit. Probably 2T, and in that case ...
intel themselves call their embeded 10G controller '2T' so I dont think you were wrong
twin dew
T2 for 2 RJ45 copper port ones.
T4 for 4 RJ45 copper port ones.
But doesn't care about the speed.
Their 1Gbit adapters use the same.
Also T1 variants with just one port.
DA# for SFP(+) port ones.
wanton orchid
Their 1Gbit adapters use the same.
I never saw that in advertising material for 1G parts
twin dew
Ok, the one I looked was 2.5G one, read the controller wrong.
Intel Ethernet Network Adapter i225-T1
From 2013.
wanton orchid
ok
twin dew
T for copper, DA for SFP, don't remember what inbuilt fiber transceiver.
And then number of ports.
Seems to have changed around 2010.
F for Multimode with dual-LC connector.
Adding A in some cases for AT on the 10G cards.
But just checked, for ASRock Rack, #T means 10G, and #L is 1G.
narrow folio
AT-AT
twin dew
And they don't always list the 1G ports in the product names.
If there are just 1G port(s)
narrow folio
Isn't there some manual to decipher the product number?
seems hard to reverse engineer all this info
night girder
Isn't there some manual to decipher the product number?
twin dew
No official one from ASRock Rack.
narrow folio
Google may help me to find the manual on the manufacturer website, but there should be something provided from the maker if the stuff
narrow folio
No official one from ASRock Rack.
Sad
night girder
Google may help me to find the manual on the manufacturer website, but there sho...
no, I said google because the manufacturer don't provide.
So then google is only option left. You are 100% right. But this isn't the reality.
narrow folio
Yeah, I got that. Just feels like bad customer support
night girder
Same for GTX. We had talk about it a year ago.
narrow folio
Something like that
maybe this is a bit on the simpler end of things, but you get the idea
night girder
Do you know em all?
narrow folio
Well, that is just confusion of tha highest orda
night girder
Yeah, gotta love Nvidia.
narrow folio
But as long as they provide a list with all the specs I would just go with it
night girder
I scraped the nvidia website and even use the waybackmachine to look on Nvidia to see if they document everything and that's also a big "no".
wayback -> web.archive.org
twin dew
Of course no, because it was intentional to mislead.
narrow folio
GX2 was the dual card thingy
night girder
I am just saying to STM, that it's nothing new 😄
narrow folio
maybe the documentary of their pro cards is better?
twin dew
AFAIK even less than for the consumer cards between generations.
narrow folio
the normal consumer can go die in a fiery fire fuelled with the unprinted paper of non existent documentation
night girder
GigaTexel Shader (GTS) vs Giga Texel Shader eXtreme (GTX) 😄
twin dew
Nvidia has even used same exact name for multiple professional cards for neighboring generations.
narrow folio
I remember that
night girder
the thing is, I am finding this information on forums, reddit, google, ...
Wouldn't it be cool if Nvidia had like a naming convention page?
twin dew
That info for ASRock was just decoding from the product listings.
night girder
That's what STM is asking for and I agree.
narrow folio
I can only conclude that they won't do that on purpose
twin dew
But how would they intentionally mislead between generations if they did lock up some particular naming?
Like the try to have multiple completely different 4080:s this generation?
night girder
But how would they intentionally mislead between generations if they did lock up...
Idc about what they are trying to achieve. I care about consumers.
narrow folio
they care about profits
night girder
you mean: they care about bigger profits
narrow folio
sure, the bigger the better
night girder
I am 99% sure, theoratically, a company like Nvidia can be profitable without all the marketing shenanigans.
narrow folio
they should be
night girder
maybe they have to cut down the paycheck of the CEO etc.
sell a few yachts. A couple of buildings. Everything that's "waste".
and we cannot do anything about it.
regulations wont do anything about it because of "free" market.
So I guess they have freeplay?
narrow folio
now I kinda feel guilty for buying a recent gen Nvidia
night girder
I listened to wise ones in this channel
and my gut feeling. And ditched Nvidia.
Only took people 1-2 years of argueing with me, massive price increases of Nvidia GPU market etc before I was convinced that my next GPU would be AMD.
narrow folio
had AMD for a few generations, reason for Nvidia was cyberpunk in 4k @ max settings
night girder
Yeah, I cannot do that with my 6950 but I was fully aware of that.
My goal is stil 1080p gaming atm 😄
narrow folio
4k@120Hz is my new 'should be reached' level. I was used to 30-50fps way too long, but now I have seen the light
night girder
4k@120Hz is my new 'should be reached' level. I was used to 30-50fps way too lon...
I was used to 30-50 FPS on 1080p 😉
now I hit 100+ with better graphics 😄
narrow folio
well, depends on the game, i totally can play with 60fps if it's slower paced
night girder
Ah well, I am not going to convince anyone. I am just happy I finally made the switch.
Don't regret it so far.
It's something everyone has to figure out for themselves. Once you have enough knowledge about it all. Gaming is still a subjective experience.
narrow folio
I hope AMD (or Intel?) will catch up with the next few gens.
Intel first has to get a decent team for driver development
night girder
I just realized, who says AMD wants to catch up?
narrow folio
granted they made some impressive improvements over the last weeks
night girder
Maybe AMD is happy with taking the low-mid market of GPU.
And Nvidia can have the high-end market with their 2k pricetags.
narrow folio
yeah, a good possibility
night girder
I mean, imagine AMD catching up with performance and visuals and everything to Nvidia. I am pretty sure AMD price will be bit closer to Nvidia's prices.
hardy forge
Yo there is a msi moniter black friday deal rn, from £219 to £139
27" 170Hz
narrow folio
AMD announced a while back that their next gen GPU will very likely not compete with high end
night girder
and I don't think it's bad. I think it's actually very strategic of AMD.
narrow folio
true, low to mid is where the mass market and thus money is.
night girder
"Third-quarter revenue was a record $14.51 billion, up 41% from the previous quarter and up 279% from a year ago." - nvidia.
posted yesterday. Article: nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-announces-financial-results-for-third-quarter-fiscal-2024
Stuff like this pisses me off, why do we have to pay so much for GPU's if the proffit is comming from somewhere else?
narrow folio
AI train has been a money dispenser for Nvidia
night girder
Can't you use profit from datacenters to reduce prices of a GPU a bit? ffs.
charred pewter
PROFIT!
night girder
you forgot "more" 😉
night girder
Intel first has to get a decent team for driver development
And yes, I don't know much about Intel cards. But I assume Intel is still in it's infancy phase (relatively).
narrow folio
they are, can be seen in more than x2 improved performance in certain scenarios since release of the first drivers
I hope that the next intel GPU will have better software. maybe will hurt AMD more than Nvidia, but more options should hopefully bring down the prices a bit
night girder
Also, not sure if Baldur is still awake he will know, but you know how some games are now optimized for one brand (mostly Nvidia) and not fully for the other? What will happen when games have to optimize for 3 different brands? Or does Intel have a trick here or something?
Will this mean games will be optimized in this priority? 1. Nvidia. 2. AMD. 3. Intel.
And then people will say Intel sucks as a GPU, but in reality games are poorly optimized 😒
narrow folio
maybe Microsoft should buy the Intel GPU branch and make DX13 a thing?
edgy hazel
And then people will say Intel sucks as a GPU, but in reality games are poorly o...
Sadly that don't matter that much
edgy hazel
The average consumer is way away from any processes like that. Intel will need to make contracts with studios to have a chance to succeed
narrow folio
I games would be optimised like back in the Voodoo days things would show way more performance, but take 5 years longer to develop. So no...
night girder
The average consumer is way away from any processes like that. Intel will need t...
Yeah ws thinking the same.
like AMD and Starfield (most recent one I know)
partnership as they call it
charred pewter
latest starfield update, it now runs better on nvidia
night girder
latest starfield update, it now runs better on nvidia
can AMD see the sun now?
narrow folio
The average consumer is way away from any processes like that. Intel will need t...
'I have an i7 processor and a Nvidia card, my PC is really good and fast!'
people with an i7 8gen and 1050ti
edgy hazel
Yeah
edgy hazel
'I have an i7 processor and a Nvidia card, my PC is really good and fast!'
peopl...
But that also has a hefty dose of capitalism
Wanting to make money is easier when you obstruct data and information
twin dew
Also, not sure if Baldur is still awake he will know, but you know how some game...
Mostly they are optimized for none, checked to run somewhat on one.
night girder
Mostly they are optimized for none, checked to run somewhat on one.
That's bad.
So it goes from 50-50 chance it can run decently to 33-33-33 🤣
edgy hazel
You're telling me that Activisions/EA/MS have only one brand in QA? Doubt
twin dew
And that "checked to run" doesn't always happen, and it is up to the GPU makers to provide day-0 GPU drivers that allow the game to run.
night girder
And that "checked to run" doesn't always happen, and it is up to the GPU makers ...
I mean, they have to test the game on something.
twin dew
But that can be just same single model card in all the machines.
narrow folio
the more I think about it the more a working and performant gaming PC seems like magic😁
twin dew
With same, possibly outdated drivers and even that one fails with newer ones.
night girder
With same, possibly outdated drivers and even that one fails with newer ones.
doubt
edgy hazel
the more I think about it the more a working and performant gaming PC seems lik...
You're making sand think by shooting lightning through it. What do you expect
night girder
some games development take so long, I cannot imagine the developers not updating their GPU or update the drivers 🤣
twin dew
Including "AAA" studios
twin dew
some games development take so long, I cannot imagine the developers not updatin...
Meant the final push to get the game stable.
night girder
You sure about this?
twin dew
Update once at start, don't update during, so the driver are few months old when the game comes out.
night girder
I mean, I guess it can be a worst case scenario.
but another worst case scenario is that some games don't get tested period 🤷♂️
narrow folio
never touch a running developer machine
twin dew
Big studios have been cutting from testing like many others, including MS etc.
As it is "just a useless cost"
night girder
Hurts.
it also does make sense.
Why pay for a team to test a game? When you can make a team pay YOU and they will test the game at the same time! Go consumer-team!!!
twin dew
And each step of the way the consumers haven't cared.
night girder
And the more people that pay and play the game, the more test result you get.
Actually, this is brilliant 🤣
Only problem is that most consumers don't want to test a game. They want to play the actual game. But why would they have a say in it?
night girder
And each step of the way the consumers haven't cared.
this is not true.
twin dew
Some have, in general no.
Lot of people still preorder etc.
Finally has been SOME pushback.
night girder
And a lot of people also negatively review a game and say: enough is enough.
steam reviews can be brutal lately if a game releases unfinished. And people mention that they don't want to test out half baked games for a price tag of a full game.
twin dew
And a lot of people also negatively review a game and say: enough is enough.
Yes, but when the testing downgrades etc. started 10+ years ago, and the pushback has only really started to happen during last few years, it will take many more years for the Exes level people to actually notice and care enough to do something.
twin dew
Yes, finally happening.
But takes time for anything to come from it at game company end.
edgy hazel
CS2
night girder
I am not a big fan of early access games anymore, sorry Satisfactory, but for some games it really did work. Like BG3.
I rather have EA then shitty games maybe. Not sure.
twin dew
But I'm off to bed, two hours late from planned.
Still 3 hours early from yesterday.
night girder
Or bring back free beta's like the old days.
edgy hazel
CS2 is crazy unoptimized
edgy hazel
It's missing a good 6 months dev time
night girder
They should have done way better imo.
With all the experience they have now.
Studio focused way to long on DLC's for CS1 and then quickly rushed out CS2. Which seems like a 2.0 of CS1 tbh 😒
edgy hazel
Nah it's just straight up missing time
night girder
They want to get milking DLC's as quickly as possible I think.
edgy hazel
I expected them to fix them fast and quick but as they have already announced their first DLC I lost hope
night girder
Yeah I read above comment today under the road map of the game. Since I am interested.
edgy hazel
I'm too
charred pewter
that comment about cs2?
night girder
I am not paying 49.99 for CS2. Not after I read the reviews and saw the YT videos.
charred pewter
hahah
night girder
nevaaah!
in a few years they will put it all in a pack for 19.99
having patience when buying games is the real winning strat 🤣
edgy hazel
also need to add this which is way worse imo
night girder
I read penisless 🤣
edgy hazel
30 FPS is okay for a sim like CS. But that performance loss doesn't translate into better simulation here which is bad
charred pewter
also need to add this which is way worse imo
its a feature... allowing citizens to make money to get into their homes is part of an upcoming dlc
night girder
30 FPS is *okay* for a sim like CS. But that performance loss doesn't translate ...
I mean, with moderm hardware?
edgy hazel
I read penisless 🤣
coming in a DLC in Q2
night girder
CS2 should be looking better and perform better at the same time
charred pewter
you'd think
night girder
release CS1 - 2015 ... so that's 8 years between the games.
edgy hazel
CS2 should be looking better and perform better at the same time
nah at a certain size of city you can't optimise it without killing simulations
night girder
nah at a certain size of city you can't optimise it without killing simulations
yeah that's true.
But what I've seen, the game doesn't look much better and still performs like shit on modern hardware.
While the game should look much better and perform good on modern hardware. If we leave out the simulation part (so big cities).
edgy hazel
it's not a shooter. You don't need 60 FPS for that. But when I run a simulatior like that I want the simulation to be really good
narrow folio
night girder
I don't know man, it looks crap
night girder
Screenshot from the store:
Dunno, I expected a little bit better. Who knows might still be possible with mods.
narrow folio
I grew up with this awesome graphics. we are spoiled
night girder
for that time, it was dope.
narrow folio
Nice! Climate Activists DLC when?
edgy hazel
would need a global system for that. Can't have climate change when pollution directly affects you in 2-3 minutes instead of 40-50 years
night girder
Nice! Climate Activists DLC when?
That's the roadmap they announced.
narrow folio
edgy hazel
he's parked
narrow folio
That's the roadmap they announced.
Ok, I'll have a look when bridge builder DLC hits
just zoomed into hergs pic
jagged snow
I have played a lot of sim city 3k
I've had the unlimited edition pretty much since it came out
I love that game
narrow folio
3k was the last sim city like game I played. But I watched a ton of traffic jam solving in city skyline on YouTube
night girder
3k was the last sim city like game I played. But I watched a ton of traffic jam ...
because managing traffic is a pain. And you can install mods to make it a little bit better.
narrow folio
true, but some people build their roads like toddler would
jagged snow
You've got me thinking again
night girder
true, but some people build their roads like toddler would
I did the same as you. Watched tons of videos about traffic 🤣
charred pewter
horse shit
night girder
That's a lot of people waiting for the bus 🤣
oh and you can build benches in the air in CS2?
haha some funny bugs 🤣
narrow folio
time for work@home
night girder
that's when you build a metro system
narrow folio
absolutely, how else would we get to metro 2033?
night girder
also underground means = no other traffic. A network also gives more control and efficiency.
there are a few pro's of a metro/subway whatever you call it.
narrow folio
independent systems tend to have fewer problems with traffic jams
night girder
narrow folio
but the cost is substantial
night girder
Look how efficient that is. Than having to do that over roads.
You can go straight underneath buildings and rivers.
And that system is only Antwerp 😛
narrow folio
True
but when I think about some politicians here and their short term thinking... I'm still amazed we have finally moved some part of the tram under the earth
night girder
We have limited options. Underground. Above ground. The sky.
Easiest (cheapest?) option are roads I believe.
narrow folio
time to get the teleporter working
night girder
time to get the teleporter working
I was about to mention that.
but I don't believe that's something we should focus on since it's so out of reach.
narrow folio
pneumatic tube network?
night girder
yeah but what else? Airplanes? Helicopters? Boats? Trains? Busses? Bicycles? Motors? Horses? Subways? We need transportation and infrastructure that supports that.
the other option is starting to produce locally to reduce traffic
narrow folio
Hyperloop🤣
night girder
a.k.a. work from home, grow at home.
narrow folio
Well, I would love to continue rambling, but I have to leave it to you guys. gtg, cu!
night girder
This is another problem.
Exponential human growth
Our cities keep getting bigger. More people. More traffic.
edgy hazel
that's very cool. Time for a whiskey :3
edgy hazel
and in the western world
My entry level pay is less than rent near my office
(which is why I recommend starting at small firms because there you can easily get your senior very fast)
nyc is 2k for 30m² - 2 rooms
stray badger
nyc is 2k for 30m² - 2 rooms
"and here is your 2k sleep pod"
gleaming shadow
Memtesting my system with bios 2.0 for my asrock x670e oh lightning with ddr5-4800 on 6000
Baldur advised 6000 about 2 months ago with the old version 1.0.0.7b
edgy hazel
nerd stuff
gleaming shadow
No worries, I half memorized the advise
#off-topic-tech message this one
So far so good 😄
edgy hazel
www.engadget.com/self-proclaimed-gay-furry-hackers-breach-nuclear-lab-152034192.html
They joined the evil side now
they were supposed to build the internet but we didn't appreciate their efforts and now they're braking bad
that's just par for the course
jagged snow
That was the best headline I've read in years
edgy hazel
hard disagree
jagged snow
We already know you're an extremist herg
edgy hazel
didn't know fighting for human rights is extremist
jagged snow
LTT covered the bigscreen beyond https://youtu.be/TdBnkxxImwI
night girder
didn't know fighting for human rights is extremist
fighting for human rights isn't extremist, you just take it to the extreme 😛
jagged snow
didn't know fighting for human rights is extremist
You know I have very strong opinions on the topic that we shouldn't really talk about here
edgy hazel
You know I have very strong opinions on the topic that we shouldn't really talk ...
I assume that advocating for trans rights is 100% fine in this server considering we had people get banned for "I don't like pronouns"
jagged snow
I assume that advocating for trans rights is 100% fine in this server considerin...
The rules state no politics 🤷♂️
edgy hazel
again the rules are guidelines. If we had a real "no politics" rule this channel wouldn't exist. Politics is in everything. From acquisitions to cable regulations to taxes on GPUs
jagged snow
This topic very much is
night girder
It states the topics we can talk about.
" science and programming and hardware stuffs"
jagged snow
That too
night girder
we all know how it ends. Someone will call a moderator and they come in and we have to change subject.
jagged snow
The difference in points of view is why ti's a political issue
edgy hazel
and I posted an article regarding hacking of servers which happened due to political reasons. Is that okay now or not?
jagged snow
and I posted an article regarding hacking of servers which happened due to polit...
That is, because it's tech stuff. Talking about the politics behind it isn't really
night girder
tbf, we have been talking EU regulations regarding the internet and such. I guess it's politics. But it's not so sensitive?
edgy hazel
the huawei ban is also political isn't it?
night girder
some subjects are just bound to end gnarly imo 🤷♂️
edgy hazel
yeah and instead of a "haha furries hack nuclear" we have this shitty conversation now
night girder
🧑🌾
jagged snow
They're cool, just very pricey
Some places, but that's never going to be cheap rent
I could probably find something for that price, but it'd be a very large, very nice, house
narrow folio
TR are cool, but most don't have the money or a use case (probably both)
edgy hazel
4 rooms, 150m² - 5k€
narrow folio
a colleague of mine still lives with his parents, pays 100€ for his share and that's it. has basically all the money he earns for himself. doesn't understand why others don't do the same
jagged snow
100e isn't very much
That probably doesn't even cover food lol
I'm a little too proud to do that I think
dusk rivet
if i connect a fan to the system fan port on my motherboard will it just function properly without me having to do anything else like setting it up?
edgy hazel
if the mobo/your fan software blocks the port/doesn't have any curves/data assigned to it, then yes you have to do something
99% of the time this isn't the case tho
dusk rivet
if the mobo/your fan software blocks the port/doesn't have any curves/data assig...
will the fans just not turn on if that's the case?
dusk rivet
just gonna cross that bridge when i get to it
gpu is a little to close to thermal throttling for comfort, and my current fans are way too loud, so i'm getting some new ones
the thermalright tl-s12's are also on sale
14usd for a 3 pack, so 28usd total, then 8usd for the thermalright argb controller
edgy hazel
or you could spend double that and get a single alphacool fan 😄
dusk rivet
i'm good
yeah i did
that's how i figured out where in the world the system fan port was
dusk rivet
SYS_FAN1 is how it's labeled for me
funny how they completely droppped all the VRM's and whatnot in the diagram
edgy hazel
fan labels don't mean much except CPU and AIO
dusk rivet
do i use "D_LED1" for argb if that's how the rgb is controlled for my case fans rn?
languid gulch
gpu swap gone wrong on r/PCMR
edgy hazel
AIO/pump is usually 100% and CPU usually doesn't have a 0%/silent mode and is required
languid gulch
i miss different colored boards besides black
dusk rivet
there's white too
languid gulch
& occasionally white
dusk rivet
perfect for a noctua build
languid gulch
would work with an all-Noctua setup
dusk rivet
or if you have a computer in your bathroom
dusk rivet
better than black/green/white
edgy hazel
over BROWN?
dusk rivet
brown would be a closer match
edgy hazel
black/white is preferable here. You want contrast and not more colour since noctua fans are already fully brown.
languid gulch
i wouldn't mind a brown mobo if i had some green components. nature themed look
edgy hazel
and both browns noctua uses are brighter
dusk rivet
more brown
edgy hazel
i wouldn't mind a brown mobo if i had some green components. nature themed look
I'd rather go black mobo, brown parts and green tubing/liquid
OR (the way a brown mobo would work nicely)
brown mobo, green parts, colourful tubing connectors and honey golden liquid
like full forest fairy style
languid gulch
i'd go with one of those fancy open cases to show off the brown if i was going that way
edgy hazel
there you also have the issue that these brown msi mobos are actually bad
dusk rivet
I'd rather go black mobo, brown parts and green tubing/liquid
OR (the way a bro...
no, all brown
languid gulch
oh yea not the literal shit-tier boards that are brown as a warning
edgy hazel
no, all brown
: (
dusk rivet
brown everything, brown case, brown fans, brown tubing, brown cables, brown mobo, brown
edgy hazel
I hate you
languid gulch
🤣
dusk rivet
I hate me too
languid gulch
all i know for sure is that i'll never not giggle at this
dusk rivet
it’s nice, but i noticed it’s not brown
languid gulch
gpu is kinda brown
edgy hazel
it’s nice, but i noticed it’s not brown
may the rats rechoice and celebrate upon finding your remains as noone else will find joy in being near you
who the fuck want an all poop PC
languid gulch
poop emoji pc case when
edgy hazel
I hate colours
gilded helm
I would hope the PC being described also is on a wood desk with a waxy, plasticy finish.
languid gulch
clear PCBs when
edgy hazel
brown is also such an asshole colour
there are greens which are technically a brown
Oh no brown is a nice colour
I love tree
but the color is an asshole
languid gulch
ngl if they started selling a brown 4090 for half price, i'd be tempted
edgy hazel
bro they could sell me a 4090 without cooler for half price
wait nahhh this shit is still 2k
fuck this no I'll not be buying a 4090 for half price
Maxeek
dusk rivet
who the fuck want an all poop PC
brown*
edgy hazel
I'm not even using my current GPU for something productive
gilded helm
When offline content generation becomes even better I'd pay $2000 for a GPU.
dusk rivet
my current gpu is begging for me to let it rest, i politely decline every time
gilded helm
Specifically, if I could tell any audio workstation program, 'give me Trace Adkins covering No Diggity' and it populates the drums, vocals and whatnot properly to be edited, then also makes me a music video to play at bars, hell yeah, I'm in
dusk rivet
i ain't the one paying for power, so suffer it must
edgy hazel
Specifically, if I could tell any audio workstation program, 'give me Trace Adki...
that sounds horrible
dusk rivet
can't wait till i get a 7900xt and torture it too
gilded helm
Exactly 🦨
dusk rivet
no gpu is free from me torturing it
languid gulch
i only tortured my old stuff, & that was mainly because i had no idea how underpowered it was for what i wanted to do 🤣
edgy hazel
😍 🥰
languid gulch
like KSP on an iGPU
dusk rivet
7900xt?
edgy hazel
ya
dusk rivet
"how does it feel to live my dream"
edgy hazel
"how does it feel to live my dream"
pretty goooooood
dusk rivet
pretty goooooood
i'm going 7800x3d+7900xt tho
and 64gb ram
well at least that's the plan
edgy hazel
and DDR5
dusk rivet
ddr5 ofc, i'm not spending 2200usd on a pc and not getting ddr5
i have a 12700f and 3060 rn
edgy hazel
I carried over my RAM and shot the 5800x3d for like 300€
edgy hazel
7000 wasn't released yet
dusk rivet
ah
edgy hazel
at least for me 😦
dusk rivet
going for the kraken 360
edgy hazel
my condolences
dusk rivet
supposed the kraken 240 is enough for the 7800x3d, so my cpu should stay chilly
dusk rivet
my condolences
if another brand made an aio that looked just as good or better, i'd buy from them
edgy hazel
Just get a beefy fat tower first imo
7800
it's under 600
but also the whole budget/midrange/high-end area has changed
inflation
I don't waste. I still have my 5s somewhere
I don't think my old 5s should still be used much less in the room I sleep in but I still haven't thrown it out
are you sure? it's currently in an empty flower pot
U sure
don't think I should reuse that one
7/8ths of what I own
(if you send them to dedicated services)
Extracting the resources is more expensive than producing them new
I was talking all resources
recycling is incredibly expensive for most resources
that's why it comes last
reduce, reuse, recycle
industrially washing glass bottles is more expensive than just making them new
while washing also produces way way way more dangerous and damaging materials than producing new
you're forgetting the production of cleaning material
I have a friend who's got a doc in biochemical engineering and he grounded me a lot regarding recyling
TL:DR recycling is a lie
edgy hazel
maiden coyote
sorta
it's all kind of mixed up. maybe eventually someone will come up with an efficient process that they can just toss shit in and it'll grind it up and seperate the different things out
edgy hazel
it's all kind of mixed up. maybe eventually someone will come up with an efficie...
currently, not that likely
maiden coyote
probably not.
oil can be made from anything, it's not an issue. calling it a non renewable is a lie.
edgy hazel
recycling is being researched insanely well, I'm losing hope
maiden coyote
should put for focus on reduce, and reuse&repair
edgy hazel
we should put our focus on no using child slaves in our production processes first tbh
maiden coyote
Wouldn't they starve then?
edgy hazel
it should be the 4 Rs then
refrain from child labour, reduce, reduce, recycle
if the human race is good at one thing, it's adapt. And we will.
sharp oasis
my amd software panel has dissapeared
edgy hazel
my amd software panel has dissapeared
sharp oasis
https://tenor.com/view/nileseyy-niles-peace-out-disappear-meme-disappearing-guy-...
Deadass
Its just not there
edgy hazel
start it again
stray badger
oil can be made from anything, it's not an issue. calling it a non renewable is ...
crude oil is
pure karma
i disagree id like to keep my 800K a year raw profit XD
well i guess not myn i dont get all of it or much of it at all
lobster = eternal
well not really
i will say fishing defedently has quite the polution to it but it is also quite necesairy at this point
and i defedently cant complain about legally being able to kidnap kids
maiden coyote
crude oil is
nearly anything can can be made from crude can and is currently being produced from natural gas or other lighter hydrocarbons.
stray badger
nearly anything can can be made from crude can and is currently being produced f...
can doesnt mean it is as cheap
pure karma
faire point but there are regulations for a reasson
if they cant maintain the canals people are gonna gain back profit in other places
edgy hazel
pure karma
the realistic answer to this is have fun whit the homies #off-topic-media message
edgy hazel
until we have a world gov we can't change that much
pure karma
my point is when it happens the problem will just be ignored and people will most likely not care
and then they will just go find something else to do
well the tides are doing the regulating at this point but only in certain areas
like its not rare for the boat route out of the local dock here to only have like 2 feet of water or like 10 feet of water the next day
edgy hazel
we'd need 25%-30% of the worlds population (+ knowledge and instant and understandable communication) https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/06/want-to-change-society-s-views-here-s-how-many-people-you-ll-need-on-your-side/
I 100% expected the WEF to be blocked
international waters was a mistake
basically everything needs to be regulated or it don't work
the government is there to regulate shit??????????
WHUUAAAA??
which one
because if you're referencing their last "won" war you're referencing WWII
because iirc the US lost any war after 1945
who gave em seals anime eyes
but yes they are very cute
midnight osprey
hey guys, why do GPU firmware updates cause audio glitches?
lol
it closed discord too!
edgy hazel
because after reinstalling your OS might recognise them as new devices and you have to switch first
midnight osprey
dunno about realtek
likely
yep
and BTW, one of those monitors, the MSI, doesn't have audio so dunno why it shows up there
I disable the inputs usually ... dunno why it reset
edgy hazel
HDMI also does audio
midnight osprey
well, I have 3 monitors, the sammy doesn't show
the C34J79 does actually have nice speakers
midnight osprey
1 hdmi, the other 2 whatever the latest standard is
edgy hazel
Dvi?
midnight osprey
yeah
edgy hazel
Gotta update
midnight osprey
just the C has speakers
my monitors are a mess
all different resolutions, orientations, curves / flat, etc
edgy hazel
it's just HDMI
maiden coyote
realtek NIC drivers are also hated by linux too.
wanton orchid
realtek NIC drivers are also hated by linux too.
why ?
never heard of that
the most shit I've seen about realtek drivers is about windows not loading the correct one
and hardware manufacturers not providing updated one
but Linux does not have that kind of problems
maiden coyote
pfsense does not play nice with realtek nic's
had another realtek usb wifi thing that I had to download and compile the driver from github
sharp oasis
I did a goof
And made a 4k 60fps uncompressed vid
It's 169gb
Should I compress it or try to upload the uncompressed vid to yt
For the funnu
It was like 2min
Fair
Yknow what
Imma try to upload this to yt
Fuck whoever wanna download the meme
Your gonna have to deal with 4k 60fps uncompressed
Yt is trying to upload it
At like 25-30mbps
So insanely slow
I have almost symetric internet
600/600 most of the time
I think it's difficult for my cpu to something to feed the data
Prolly
I'm gonna compress it a lil
I don't have nvec
But I can use handbrake
My cpu can chew thru it fast enough
I wish I could use my 6700XT to render
It's be much faster then my 5600
jagged snow
I wish I could use my 6700XT to render
Blender vulkan
jagged snow
Blender vulkan
It'll save us
sharp oasis
@inner shale went from 169gb to 4.1gb with light compression lmfao
I'm keeping the big file for the funny yk
I used h.265 10bit for the compressed vid.
I like uploading in 4k
jagged snow
blender supports vulkan?
Soon™️
sharp oasis
Soon™️
oh yeah i cant get amd HIP to work
It defaults even when told not to to using my cpu
twin dew
Studio focused way to long on DLC's for CS1 and then quickly rushed out CS2. Whi...
Just CS:GO reimplemented on newer engine version...
twin dew
No worries, I half memorized the advise
You can even test on the native XMP.
It was just that if the XMP as is doesn't work, then try with XMP on but with lowered DRAM Frequency.
And native XMP didn't work last time.
Ah.
Sorry, And yup, Cities Skylines 2 is also complete clusterfuck too on that front.
But even Valve fucked up with the Counter Strike 2 release.
Which tells a lot about state of game dev...
sharp oasis
Tho
Hmm visual quality for the vid I made
Is very nice
Nah the FH5 vid
The 169gb one
I did compress it to 4gb
Looks really nice
I need to upgrade my monitors and gpu
I'm noticing jagged edges with my current monitors
DaVinci resolve apparently can do 8k raw
My GPU and cpu can barely manage it
I'm prolly going up to a 7800XT/7900XT, and either 1440p or 4k for my next big upgrade
Fair
Im really starting to dislike 1080p for my main monitor
Both tbh
Moreso games rho
I'm seeing jagged lines and shit
It's starting to piss me off
Yeah