off-topic-tech

[charred pewter]

i looked at my monthly prescriptions vs my monthly insurance payment plus co-pay for the meds ... its ridiculous either way lol

vivala USA medical system 😄

[jagged snow]

Have you seen the massive price hikes on Covid shots?

[charred pewter]

wait, why is this in tech-talk .. WOOPS

ah, ads ...

[jagged snow]

biotech

[charred pewter]

it still amazes me how we can wander around with high tech TOYS in our pocket which can do AR, photos, phones, and all manner of other things....... yet when i walk into a doctors office, they still use super clunky and achiac devices to check you out.

where are the hand-held scanners n shit already ?!

[jagged snow]

We have non-contact thermometers now!

[charred pewter]

😄

sure beats the anal thermometers !

[jagged snow]

But still use a records system straight out of the '50s

[dire igloo]

We all carry a device with us that records every audio it can find and every step we wake

[charred pewter]

im amazed my doctor accomplishes anything on the computer he uses where the software looks like its running windows 95

[jagged snow]

Hopefully for a long time

[jagged snow]

My chiropractor still uses vista

[jagged snow]

5g has insufficient range for a lot of situations

[charred pewter]

when they killed 3g here, net10 sent me a free new samsung smart phone that does 5g ... and my phone service is STILL $20/mo

[jagged snow]

From what I know it's similar but they each perform better in different scenarios. 4g has significantly higher frequency range, but is also allowed to use significantly higher transmission power

[dusk rivet]

oh then rip

[jagged snow]

Pi hole etc triggers it as well afaik

[tough owl]

I just loaded up ublock on firefox

played some videos in succession and no blocking

www.phoronix.com/review/amd-zen4c-laptops make it make sense

[dire igloo]

idk if pihole works on YT ads, iirc it shouldn't

[tough owl]

nzxt.com/collection/h6 did they just copy hyte 🤣 but in reverse?

[dire igloo]

I like the design

Also, at $110 it's a nice pick for anyone looking for a fishtank

And I also think the angling of the fans helps with airflow

[tough owl]

nzxt was like can I copy. Hyte was like yea just don't make it too ovbious

[jagged snow]

hyte has the y70 now, pretty cool concept

[tough owl]

its doing too much

I want a case to hold my stuff and cool it properly

[dire igloo]

Except hyte forces you into vertical mount with GPU fans close to the glass

D41 Mesh Screen for that

[visual tree]

I hope there is a transaction in SAP which will allow me to download more than 250 invoices at once. Don't want to do it manually....

*and a script to rename pdf files (invoices) based on reference number

[charred pewter]

mmm paper

at least when you opened up a new piece of paper... it was on your desktop where you want it... and not 'cascading down' from some other piece of paper you have =p ... fuck i hate cascading windows

first world problem

"Updating Steam...
[][][][]----------]
Verifying Installation..."
*... well which is it! you silly app! *:D

its a macoass12+ issue ...

[visual tree]

Imagine if there was no internet and you had to share documents inside a corporation that has more than 200.000 employees around the world. It would be a complete nightmare lol

Oh right. I was born too late 😅

Didn't have to deal with that

Meanwhile, we have delays in fiber projects because of labor shortage

I am not a fiber technician but I would assume there is labor shortage because of low pay and increased workload

Sadly, I am not in a position to fix that issue

[twin dew]

Fiber connection making is automated now.

Only need few higher skilled people to do the cabinets.

For large area.

[visual tree]

I should do a field day to learn what fiber technicians are actually doing. Only thing I know is that they have a fusion splicer with them lol

My colleague told me a story about some employee who got drunk, crashed a company vehicle into a fiber distribution node (cabinet) and got fired lol

*and he had to cover all the damage he caused

And he is lucky he only got fired and not sued

[twin dew]

None, copper ethernet has 100m max distance.

[visual tree]

Here is an example of street fiber cabinet in my city and GPON inside a central office (during installation)

[twin dew]

The fiber versions have max distance up to tens to hundreds kilometers for the long distance versions.

Whops, read that as 5km.

5e

Cat 3 might work, Cat 5 might work, Cat 5e will work for 5m.

[jagged snow]

Isn't 5e gig at 100m?

[twin dew]

Problem is that 5e isn't official spec AFAIK.

[jagged snow]

But IMO there's no point in going with anything less than 5e or 6 as it's all crazy cheap

[twin dew]

No, seems to be real.

[visual tree]

I recently did a test on my cat6 cables between rooms https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/457105940844380160/1165229051749859419/image.png?ex=654f519e&is=653cdc9e&hm=887bd0d67ffb5b28d54a5ee1b66e701d586a2a7702beda7be6e435c7890be0e1&=

[jagged snow]

There are some unofficial versions of the cat6 spec

[twin dew]

Ok, 1000BASE-T is only up to 62.5MHz, so CAT5 non-e fits too to that 100m distance.

[visual tree]

At least I know I actually have CAT6 and not some fake cable

Manufacturers will literally label anything CAT6 these days

*even though it's legally questionable

And it's pure copper I believe, not CCA

So, you have cable instead of fiber?

Oh, I misread your previous message. Missed the part where you mentioned it's the parents who have cable, not you 😅

Well, at least older people don't care if they have high speed internet so you shouldn't be worried lol

[jagged snow]

that's fast

[twin dew]

How does 50 millibits/s work with TCP?

[visual tree]

We couldn't deploy fiber to a lot of older residential buildings in large cities because most apartment owners are old people who don't care about fiber

And you need to obtain at least 51% consent from all apartment owners

I hope we completely shut down copper infrastructure by 2030 or 2035

And if those older people in residential buildings refuse fiber, we will simply shut down their phone line and they will have to use cellphones....

voip has been available for a long time

[twin dew]

The "phone" over cable is already VOIP etc.

[dusk rivet]

is there a pc part picker like tool for server racks

[jagged snow]

There is still true analog phone lines in the us

[twin dew]

Yes, ADSL, VDSL.

[visual tree]

You can find VOIP ports on your modem, it's the port where you plug in your phone (usually it's a green port)

and DSL port is gray

[jagged snow]

My understanding is that at a provider level it still gets converted to digital for transmission though

[visual tree]

Before VOIP, we used dsl splitter/filter

[twin dew]

For DSL, it isn't VOIP.

Just analog telephone and xDSL running on same cable on different frequencies.

[jagged snow]

But it's quite common to have pots still avaliable

[visual tree]

Correction: doesn't need to be green, could be any color

[twin dew]

The "splitters" are just filters.

Don't remember if they filter the DSL out from the phone output.
Or phone from the DSL output.

Analog to phone operator stuff.
ISDN was fully digital.

[jagged snow]

It's likely filtering the phone from the dsl... it's possible for a phone to inject high enough frequencies to mess with dsl, but not really the other way around

[twin dew]

64kbit/s per channel, with two channels.

[visual tree]

If I remember correctly, the input was the phone line and the output was dsl (modem) and a phone

[twin dew]

Yes, put between the wall and the phones and DSL modem.
But just didn't remember if the Phone output or the DSL output contained the filter

[visual tree]

Hope dsl filters are extinct by now

[twin dew]

And only 64kbit/s if you wanted to keep the phone working while you were on the internet.
Or some systems could switch on the fly if call was coming in.

[visual tree]

Btw @twin dew I met the most famous finnish person Ahti the janitor again 😀

Yes, it's still alive

Not sure when 3G is going to be shut down though

Since even modern IoT devices use 3G instead of 4G

2G will probably be shutdown soon but I am not so sure about 3G

[twin dew]

ISPs are keeping 2G in Finland but 3G is going down next year.

And keeping minimal support doesn't need much bandwidth either.

4G doesn't support voice calls at all.

It is VOIP over 4G on VOLTE

4G and 5G are data only.

Yes, but the phone needs to support VolTE, and that is pretty new thing.

From near end of 2017.

It has replaced 2G and 3G calls for phones that support it.

But not all LTE phones do so.

And lot of old stuff around with only 2G or 3G modems in them for IOT type things too.

Or even new stuff that still hasn't updated to LTE modem.

As in old designs that are still for sale new.

[narrow folio]

2g will probably work till the end of 2025 here

[pure karma]

seeing how your online Baldur i would love to see your toughts on this (im not looking for help i dont care about the 1660 super anyway)

that happened from letting the card sit unpowered for like 3 months

[jagged snow]

That definitely wasn't the root cause

[twin dew]

That is the one you killed by overclocking too much?

[pure karma]

uh that was overclockless but yea its the one whit the factroy damaged board and then that i overclocked because it was allready broke anyway

has no vga or DP output from the factory damage and then lacks performance in general from the overclocking

that video is the DP output lol

[pure karma]

i dident technically kill it from overclocking it destroyed itself from thermal expansion which i kind of expected but yea the overclocking dident help

[twin dew]

Thermal expansion?

Based on what?

Never heard of anything electronic dying from that really, aside from the switchover from leaded to unleaded solder.

When there wasn't enough support for the early unleaded solders to handle the thermal cycling.

[pure karma]

room temp may be like 20C+ but the floor temp defedently isent

[maiden coyote]

Pretty sure you'd need like 50C/s to crack a die

Or more maybe

[pure karma]

well yea the card would just go from like 0C - 90C in like a minute

cuz the case inside was full metal so the case temp stayed at whatever the floor temp was

which basement flooring especially basement ceramic flooring is everything but warm

[maiden coyote]

I doubt that could damage it.

They cool them with liquid nitrogen.

[pure karma]

yea thats why i originally tought it was just insane wear from the overclocking

because the die wasent the failure point the board ended up being the failure point

[twin dew]

Based on what?

[pure karma]

the fact that half the board shorted itself to death and looks like charcoal

[sharp oasis]

💀

[maiden coyote]

You can popcorn a pcb... but that involves moisture in the pcb, and reflow temps

[pure karma]

my best guess is it simply shrunk enough from the cold to short itself on startup

[maiden coyote]

You probably blew a mosfet.. those can either fail open or close

[twin dew]

Yeah, that was VRM mosfet that failed into short.

[maiden coyote]

Open is good.. closed sends 12v to your memory and gpu die...

[sharp oasis]

What gpu is this

[pure karma]

the scuffed 1660 super lol

[sharp oasis]

Oh thank god

I thought for a sec you killed your 4070

[pure karma]

i havent...

atleast not yet lol

[sharp oasis]

at this rate your gonna need a new pc in 3 months

[pure karma]

ehh not 3 months maby like a year

[sharp oasis]

Somehow my current parts are In Prime condition

comparing

[twin dew]

But usually that kind of VRM dying is from ESD.

[sharp oasis]

so mishandled it

Damn

[pure karma]

realistically i give myself like 6 months before i break a game so hard again that it takes my gpu down whit it

[twin dew]

Almost no-one in PC space uses straps...

And MagicZ IIRC lives pretty far north in Canada?

[sharp oasis]

I use an antistatic mat

[twin dew]

So low air moisture content, that makes ESD generation much more potent.

[sharp oasis]

Ik its not much

But so far I havent needed to rebuild or modifiy my pc

[twin dew]

Compared to for example Florida etc.

[sharp oasis]

in a few months i might airdust my pc

[maiden coyote]

Use a vacuum

[sharp oasis]

NO

https://tenor.com/view/troll-trolling-meme-pc-boys-we-do-a-little-trolling-gif-20726100

[twin dew]

normal vacuums are pretty great at generating ESD.

[sharp oasis]

I wonder

Could i try undervolting my gpu again to get the hotspot temps under control

[pure karma]

well then how would it have died of ESD on its own because the case had nerver been openned up (and it wasent broken from the factory) until it broke itself where i then oppened it up for the first time like 3 months after and decided to check if it was even in one piece

[sharp oasis]

You touched it when intsaling yes?

[twin dew]

Prebuilt?
By who?

[pure karma]

why would a R11 not be a prebuilt

[maiden coyote]

I think esd damage is rare as long as you handle the boards by the edges. That's just me. I'll touch the case and anti static bag the part is sitting on. That's about it

[pure karma]

realistically the very start of the root cause is probably a half as card shortening job

cuz the board is shortened

[twin dew]

Or you overvolting and asking too much from the VRM of the OEM Dell card?
If it was one?

[pure karma]

yea its a OEM shortened

[twin dew]

Because that is the other possibility.

[pure karma]

i mean idk

[twin dew]

Because Dell cards often have cut down VRM to just be enough for the stock.

[pure karma]

the highest clock i ever ran on it was whit +20% Core Voltage +250MHZ Core Clock and +200MHZ Memory Clock

but for like 60-70% of the runtime it ran clockless

or whit 150MHZ memory and 200 core whit none or 20 on the voltage

[twin dew]

20% more voltage? WTF were you thinking?

Or power limit of that?

[pure karma]

well it was banging the powerlimiter so i dont think it really mattered

it was hiting it on the base clock allready

so only really the core clock and memory clock where working

[twin dew]

So again just doing stuff without thinking or checking then?

[pure karma]

voltage yea

[twin dew]

Also raising the voltage too much will nerf the actual performance.

Because you hit the power limit sooner.

[sharp oasis]

ive found Undervolting actually helped get better overall pref

[pure karma]

something i did learn is that its more stable on the power limiter than when it isent

[sharp oasis]

1.1V yeilds 70Fps furmark Heavy test 1440p

[pure karma]

but then again the power limiter on it is lower than the average power draw of a not OEM 1660 super

[sharp oasis]

That reduced my Power consumption from like 260w to 232w with removing the added 15% and undervolting

[pure karma]

the power limiter is only 110W

well only its high for a single fan card but not that high

[sharp oasis]

i lost about 5fps

@twin dew Lost 3-5fps with a undervolt. BUT SIGNIFIGANTLY improved Temps and power use

went from 220w With cyberpunk bench to 184 and kept Hotsot Under 90c

[pure karma]

its allready underperforming quite a bit so im curious to see how its gonna be in like 3-6 months especially if i do another megaproject or something like that

consitently allready 15% slower than the average on prettymuch all benchmarks

its still plenty fast but it is declining

allright im gonna get back to being somewhat productive

[sharp oasis]

How. The fuck

@pure karma

Have you done that

My 6700XT is subject to heavy loads and shit

And overclocking

And hasent degraded one bit

Are you not keeping temps under control or someth

Like I've reduced my hotspot temps by 10c from a undervolt

Lost 4fps tho but no biggie

[pure karma]

if like 60C isent in temp for a 4070Ti then theres a problem somewhere

[sharp oasis]

What's the hotspot

[pure karma]

idk

[sharp oasis]

Im just confused on what happened

[pure karma]

freight cars happened lol

[sharp oasis]

Bc it's probably my 6700XT is taking more abuse but able to deal with it bc I have everything with proper checking and shit

Snd keeping therms under control

Like I run 230w peak without throttling on a 180w GPU

Fans actually maxed and it's undervolted and overclocked

[pure karma]

all it took was 2400 difrent instances of braking particles at once to make the gpu crash count go from 0 to 1

well not just the gpu game froze then the entire system crashed

[jagged snow]

You probably just ran out of memory

[pure karma]

was only at 22Gb out of 32GB

[sharp oasis]

I'm still astonished my PC is more reliable so far

[pure karma]

well i think the difrence is im trying to break games and your not

[sharp oasis]

It's lesser preforming but like ever since the new kit of ram I've only had one bsod and that was bc of a outdated driver

[sharp oasis]

What's the point in breaking games

[pure karma]

idk fun

[sharp oasis]

But sacrificing reliability. And longevity of your parts to do so

[pure karma]

whenever i get bored of a game i break it before i move on

[sharp oasis]

@jagged snow man I love having 300fps in certain titles at 98w GPU power

In certain areas I'm getting more GPU power

Higher fps from the OC + uv

@jagged snow I gained a 4% on 3d benchmarking with a OC plus UV

Vs just an oc

[dire igloo]

try just UV

[sharp oasis]

I don't see why I'd need to as I'm keeping temps way under control now

Hotspot rarely even hits 80c

[dire igloo]

I'm curious if it's just the extra thermal headroom you got from the UV that made the card boost higher

so if it's the same 4% increase with just UV, the OC was practically meaningless

[jagged snow]

And you can't really overclock and uv at the same time. The idea of an undervolt is to push voltage as low as you can at a give clock speed, wheras an overclock is aming for the highest frequency regardless of voltage

[pure karma]

i was gonna say....

undervolting while trying to clock does in fact make no sense

[dire igloo]

I can understand the layman's approach:
UV = decrease powerdraw at a given clock
OC = increase clocks

So if you combine them, you get higher clocks at a lower power draw

until you can no longer provide sufficient voltage to keep up the clocks

[jagged snow]

I think that most people really aren't aware of the dynamic and complex nature of modern boost algorithms.

[dire igloo]

yeah, you don't really want to OC any more

unless you're pushing for records

[jagged snow]

Yup

Just look at pbo, boost algorithm will take you quite far if you just move the limits and voltage curve

[sharp oasis]

I may try Justa UV soon

[sharp oasis]

i can Get 2770mhz OC with the UV and OC

i know it negates the effect of a undervolt

But it keeps thermals down

[jagged snow]

Not afaik

[charred pewter]

got that replacement sabrent ssd enclosure in .... guess what, missing caps.... this one doesnt even ATTEMPT to mount though .... just does jack shit when plugged in

im gonna try contacting sabrent support and see what they have to say for themselves

[pure karma]

canadian internet best internet 😅

[cyan crescent]

I still have my ipod shuffle from over 10 years ago and am still using it

[sharp oasis]

i have 0 packet loss

i must be lucky

and 63ms of ping

[languid gulch]

ngl in places that actually have water in the ground, i'm surprised i don't hear more about internet or electricity dropping out

[jagged snow]

It's all in conduit

[languid gulch]

oh i know but conduit loves to fail in the most inconvenient spots

[jagged snow]

True

[languid gulch]

my sister's house had the sewer system partially back up, turns out the tree in the front yard had broken thru the pipe. not even at a joint, was just like "I KNOW THERE'S WATER IN THERE"

[maiden coyote]

That's normally because the pipe leaks

[wanton orchid]

if it's a single cable it's fine
it's not air copper

but if a joint is in water then yes it is problems

for long distances fibre is better though

[round oracle]

how would you hear about it, they don't have internet to tell you lol

[edgy hazel]

Starting to get it too 😦

[languid gulch]

for some reason when i yanked out all my adblockers/antitrackers, & then only reinstalled ublock, that worked

[edgy hazel]

Idk I got a shit load of privacy extensions and still haven't got it

Firefox and uBlock is an unbeatable combination

[languid gulch]

oh yea i guess i should say that's on chrome

[twin dew]

No problems so far with Chromium Edge and uBlock Origins.

[languid gulch]

which to me feels even more shocking that it works

[round oracle]

Ublock updates their filters daily to combat youtube doing the same, if ublock ever stops working just go to settings>extensions and themes>ublock>options>filter lists, then purge all caches and finally update to get the new filters

[twin dew]

Yup, cat & mouse games with YouTube.

[dire igloo]

That YouTube will always lose

[round oracle]

except one side is corporate programmers who couldn't care less, and the other is millions of induviduals with limitless free time and pettyness

[twin dew]

Few hours a day where it works probably, right after each change.

[round oracle]

pretty much immediatly after youtube makes changes the minds at ublock have fixed it lol

[twin dew]

They are just changing the name of the same script AFAIK.
Hidden in randomly named scripts where the rest are needed.

So just a whack-a-mole.

[languid gulch]

until someone in ublock finds something deep in youtube that's not immediately changeable by them 🤣

[round oracle]

someone needs to make a script to automatically update the filters through firefox itself imo

[dire igloo]

Also, YouTube will just kill their ad revenue by forcing people to watch ads

[round oracle]

might have a weekend project lol

[dire igloo]

Every adblock user won't interact with the ad anyway - so the click through rate plummets

[round oracle]

half of youtube ads are obvious scams, almost porn, or news site rage bait anyway

[dire igloo]

Also, there's adblock now which just opens a sandbox in the background, clicks every ad and closes the sandbox again

[round oracle]

amazing

[languid gulch]

i honestly don't mind sponsored vids from the channel host itself, but man youtube ads can be outright malware

[dire igloo]

Making the ads also super useless

[round oracle]

creators get most of their revenue though sponsors anyway due to youtube's shitty monetization

[twin dew]

But might be that VDDGs aren't really tuneable with 7000X3D CPUs...
Even when the AGESA says they had been changed...

[languid gulch]

& as LTT made clear, buying 1 sweater from them is the equivalent of watching 40k ads

[dire igloo]

One guy made a video about the problematic ads on YouTube.
This video was striked for violating community guidelines - the problematic segment was an ad actively being shown on YT

[edgy hazel]

SponsorSkip rules

[languid gulch]

oh i have left & right hotkeyed on my mmo mouse 🤣 makes skipping forward & back really easy

[dire igloo]

Some sponsored segments are very well made, I actually enjoy watching those

[edgy hazel]

Fuck ads

[round oracle]

the double standard is crazy, youtube must not even show a captcha to people trying to buy ad spaces, tons of porn ads for mobile games submitted by the organization of "aa26jhu46"

[dire igloo]

Ads are fine if they're done without tracking, aren't invasive and mean the service can be provided for free

[languid gulch]

it'll remain the wild west until governments feel like ending that mentality

[dire igloo]

I think duckduckgo used that approach:
Advertisers put certain keywords on the links they want advertised and if someone searches for something related, it shows up

If you search for "buy car in LA", it'll show you links to LA car dealerships that paid DDG to promote them

[twin dew]

Yeah... I'm not running 2200 FCLK with VDDG 0.700V...
Without any performance degradation from VDDG 0.850V.

AMD has disabled the control for VDDG on 7000X3D probably.
Because the V-cache runs on the VDDG-CCD0 voltage IIRC.

Anyways, current status:

Need to up the tREFI later.

And need to drop the tRRRD_S to 4.
6 gives higher max bandwidth, 4 gives lower latency.
But that higher bandwidth is probably just because IMC hit more optimal interleaving of commands.

Moar Testing™️

[upper plinth]

I get it sometimes on uBlock + Firefox. Need to figure out why before I'm in phase 4 :P

[twin dew]

So still need to test the following again:
TrrdL 8 -> 6
TrrdS 6 -> 4
TwtrS 6 -> 4
TrdrdSd 8 -> 6
TwrwrScl 4 -> 1
TwrwrSd 8 -> 6
Were 2 pass Memtest86 stable before.

[twin dew]

Anyways, set all of those and now running Memtest86 again for today.

[prisma yoke]

So i just encoutnered a really weird issue. I can use right click and left click on the right side of my desktop just fine, (i.e rmb causes the dropdown menu to appear and dragging the mouse around while holding lmb does that selection box thingy.) However, those inputs no longer work on the left side on the screen. Theres an invisible cutoff point down the middle This behavior has only been observed on my main display, the secondary screen has working clicks regardless of location.

What even-

[twin dew]

Some weird overlay layer in there catching the clicks.

[prisma yoke]

What could this be?

[twin dew]

In front of the desktop.

No idea HOW.

Reboot?

[prisma yoke]

It only happens sometimes tho, doesnt persist between reboots. It will happen one boot, and wont happen another boot

[twin dew]

And you can probably do select box from right side to left side while that is happening?

[prisma yoke]

Correct, it can be dragged across but can only be started om the right

[twin dew]

Some program you have running making such overlay on the left side, blocking everything "behind" it.

[prisma yoke]

I have one suspect

The driver for my drawing tablet, but the only thing i did with it was forcing the tablet input to be limited to a single display cuz it originally mapped to both displays at once. Could that be it?

[edgy hazel]

I don't think you limiting an input device has something to do with your issue of a limited input device

[twin dew]

Shouldn't affect the mouse, and being only half a screen is weird.
But cannot know.
Never heard of issue like this.

[edgy hazel]

A drawing tablet is basically a glorified mouse

[prisma yoke]

Yeah ik but thats the only overlay like thing i am using

[twin dew]

Lot of software create overlays.
Usually to display data on top of anything else like with some hardware monitoring software.
But also Steam and Epic stores create ones, not just for when you actually "open" the overlay.

Meant to be non-interactable most of the time, but bugs can happen.

[prisma yoke]

I see, i'll try reboot when im home

[twin dew]

But see what you have running when the problem is there and try closing things to see if any of that helps?

[prisma yoke]

As far as im aware its only steam, discord, spotify, the driver and the browser tho cant check rn

[dire igloo]

Noticed that I could pay Mindfactory 3€ to giftwrap the GPU.
Excited to open it

[edgy hazel]

Wait they do it this well?

I'll order all my shit like this from now on

[prisma yoke]

After having my pc on hibernate for a few hours and launching it back, the left side now works alright

[dire igloo]

Yeah, I was super surprised.
Actually looks like someone did that by hand

Amazon just throws your stuff in a gift bag

[tough owl]

So if you use copyrighted music on YouTube shorts you’re still monetized because it’s not just a blatant rip?

idk if that’s how it works or not

[dire igloo]

It's not long enough to be theft of intellectual property

[tough owl]

So then why tf do normal length videos get the entire video demonetized for using the same length

[twin dew]

Depends on what the specific copyright owner has set?

[dire igloo]

Because YouTube copyright system is fucked

[dire igloo]

Nobody should be able to take 100% of the revenue of my 60m video if it's only 30s of their content

But I have seen sections of shorts being blurred/muted for copyright reasons

[wide void]

not seen it yet myself, but there is some tinkering going on with Youtube and Adblockers currently

[sharp oasis]

Hopefully my pixel works out

[edgy hazel]

SBF guilty on all charges lmao

[tough owl]

100+ years!!!!!

[twin dew]

Not

[edgy hazel]

the court room artist should be fired

they yassified the fraudster

[jagged snow]

He lost 20 pounds for that painting

[edgy hazel]

mf sparkles when he goes into the sun

[tough owl]

Courtroom artist definitely got paid off

https://x.com/tomwarren/status/1720131469568295074
They’re definitely trying to get their money back asap 🤣

[edgy hazel]

no consistency

[dusk rivet]

uhm, what

[edgy hazel]

sbf (sam bankman-fried/fraud) is or was the owner of FTX and spent customer money to ganmble on crypto projects through a mishmash of "fake" crypto, other businesses and other fraud.

[twin dew]

And just moved money to himself and his family.

[edgy hazel]

every single friend of his involved flipped and plead guilty

and testified against him

it took the jury only 3 hours to convict him on all charges

[dusk rivet]

jesus

[edgy hazel]

he took billions

from regular people

[dusk rivet]

that’s insane

[twin dew]

Damn... Memtest86 was stable for 8 passes, reboot in Aida in the bandwidth test.

[edgy hazel]

and it really wasn't a small thing

[twin dew]

Yeah, in the RAM copy tests...

[paper token]

@upper plinth

[charred pewter]

heh, at least Sabrent support asked for a photo comparing both cases to show the differences (and missing capacitors)

[upper plinth]

Hey man, I know you are a Pole (from dms) and I'm also a Pole, but ya just joined the server and already pinged me and dmed about playing :P
I don't even know who you are, and I'm currently playing solo mostly :P But thanks for the offer :D Just.. probably the best to go onto #looking-for-group-old lol
(And from the other note, I just started a job so playing with someone is a big nope for me)

[edgy hazel]

You also have a horrible discord profile

[paper token]

thx

[jagged snow]

Says you

[upper plinth]

[paper token]

you have pony too herg

[jagged snow]

My eyes 😭

[upper plinth]

(I have even worse background for tech people)

[paper token]

cat compensates it

gato

[mental oriole]

nom.

[twin dew]

Anyways, I'm off to bed

[charred pewter]

how come every 'wireless' mouse ive tried... they all have this stupid delay to them after what seems like everytime i take my hand off the mouse to type ...

[jagged snow]

Very aggressive power saving

[charred pewter]

indeed

[jagged snow]

I'm not a fan of wireless peripherals

[charred pewter]

i need to find a new wired mouse for my mbp ... all my current mice are usb-a

[jagged snow]

The one exception is for my laptop, I do carry a wireless mouse w/ dongle for that

[twin dew]

Get USB-C to USB-A dongle for few coins?

[charred pewter]

yeah, was pondering a wireless one .....

well, thing is, all my old wired mice i dont use ... are all end of life exhibiting issues, so i might as well just get a new mouse

[twin dew]

USB-C is backwards compatible with -A with simple passive dongle.

[charred pewter]

forgot to bring my usb-a to c cable ... so im sitting here going 'grumble' cause i was gonna play a game, but now i have to do it with my trackpad instead... so now im just like, meh, maybe i go read a book

but it got me to thinking ... maybe i need a new mouse anyways, instead of the convertor cable and this old logitech which has issues (maybe?) where holding down the left button sometimes ... on occasion ... lifts up (lets go)

so then i was like... well, maybe wireless? but ... my track record with those have been 'delays' and 'unresponsive' ... so ... hrm

a mouse is an extension of the hand, and its really a pivotal part of a computer interface .... a bad mouse can ruin your day

WITH THAT SAID .... any recomendations on brand???? is logitech still ok? macalley? microsoft (lulz) ?

wtf is this 'Lenovo" that amazon keeps suggesting as best picks lol

heh, i actually have one of these (popular pick on amazon) .... and while the button pushes are very nice, and it feels good in the grip and is light .... the scroll wheel is HORRIFICLY noisy/clacky/rough .... https://www.amazon.com/usb-type-c-mouse/dp/B08G1YLFQM/

[twin dew]

And that tREFI 60k wasn't stable even in first few self tests of Memtest.
Now on 45k and will leave that running for the night, night.

[jagged snow]

I'm currently using a logitech mouse

I had an EVGA mouse before this, slightly less comfortable but functioned well

[dire igloo]

Keychron M3 Mini.

And wireless can actually have lower delay than wired

Cuz lightspeed >>> wire speed

[jagged snow]

An equivalent-quality wired mouse will match wireless

[dire igloo]

One mouse, two modes, wireless was faster

Some razer mouse, idk which one

[jagged snow]

That doesn't mean anything, they likely just have a poor wired implementation

[dire igloo]

They double and triple checked

Because they couldn't believe it either

[jagged snow]

Again, that means the mouse is poorly designed

[dire igloo]

It was consistent

[dire igloo]

Or you are just stubborn

[jagged snow]

The actual transmission of the data occurs at such a similar speed that the difference will be immeasurably small, and on the pc end they're detected exactly the same

[charred pewter]

hmmm

[dire igloo]

It's perfectly realistic that wireless tech is fast enough for the transmission delay to be more relevant

[dire igloo]

The difference was small, but still measurable. Wireless was slightly faster on average

[jagged snow]

On one mouse?

[dire igloo]

Bluetooth was shit tho

The same mouse, yes

[jagged snow]

So again, design "flaw" in that one specific mouse

[charred pewter]

the parts about a mouse speed that bother me, is when i go to move the mouse, and it doesnt immediately respond ... that seems to happen a lot with wireless mice ive tried

[jagged snow]

Because for wireless mouse the signal path looks like this sensor > microcontroller > convert to wireless protocol & transmit > convert to usb > pc
And wired eliminates two of those steps

[charred pewter]

wired also doesnt normally have to 'wake up' if my hand hasnt been on it for a minute or two while i was typing 😉

i mean i guess a wireless mouse could do that too, but then i would be charging it daily like my phone

wow, logitech is really big on their wireless ... its hard to find one wired

one that isnt $90 ... lol

[dire igloo]

Why are you so convinced the mouse must've been faulty and not that proper wireless can be faster?

[charred pewter]

news on the Sabrent sata enclosure: they are going to send my photos and notes to their tech lab for a response

[jagged snow]

Because that's not how conventional physics work

[dire igloo]

It eliminates two of those steps - but wires are significantly slower than lightspeed

[jagged snow]

They're actually not

[charred pewter]

see: wireless must be faster because there is no electron friction in a wire to deal with ... flying through air is effortless and therefore much more fast

[dire igloo]

That's literally 9th grade physics, lol

[jagged snow]

Electical changes propogate at the speed of light lol

[dire igloo]

Basically this, but a bit more complicated

[dire igloo]

That video by Veritasium?

[charred pewter]

wait, wireless signals are lightspeed?

[jagged snow]

.... no

[jagged snow]

Yeah, all rf travels at the speed of light

[jagged snow]

That difference is >10% for the vast majority of cables

[charred pewter]

no, they travel at the speed of radio waves

[dire igloo]

It's literally light - just at a different wavelength which the human eye can't detect

[jagged snow]

Of which light is one

[charred pewter]

hm ...

[dire igloo]

https://youtu.be/2Vrhk5OjBP8

[charred pewter]

but ... like ... even so, the different in response from wired to wireless cant be humanly noticeable ....... given polling rates are the same between

[dire igloo]

Polling rate isn't delay

[charred pewter]

its an imposed delay though

only at the times of polling does it measure the motion/change

[dire igloo]

If I ask you 1000 times per second, that is completely separate from how long you take to answer

[jagged snow]

I'm aware that the difference is there, but it's going to be lower than a single clock of the controller on the mouse, so not the most important factor

[dire igloo]

I can just be sure that it's at most 1ms between you responding and me hearing it

[charred pewter]

yeah heh ...

but with all the other things in the mix... cpu lag, gpu lag, display lag, lag between all those items ...

[jagged snow]

1ghz = 1ns per cycle

[charred pewter]

the only thing I as a human DO notice... is "i began moving the mouse, and the cursor didnt move for a half second cause the mouse wasnt even awake" ....

or in some wireless mice ... a full second ... and some need a 'jiggle' it seems

[dire igloo]

when it comes to reactions, you might not notice being quicker or more accurate, but it can still affect your performance

Btw, a lot of mice support higher polling rates over wireless

[charred pewter]

1000 polling rate, and 10,000 dpi seem plenty for this old geezer

some games dont support 10,000 dpi though, i have to bring it down per app ... (their sliders dont go lower than 1% sensativity)

like "The Forest" i have to bring it down to 2500 dpi, and the in-game setting is at 1% .. and its still a bit too fast 😦

(but thats just the game being stupid with its mouse controller)

[dire igloo]

10k DPI? You doing 3,600 no scopes?

[charred pewter]

no idea what that is ... so, probably not ?

[dire igloo]

I'm at 800-1,000

[jagged snow]

I think I'm at 800 rn

[charred pewter]

the higher the dpi, the smoother fine movements in FPS games are for me ... less 'jumps per pixel' ... hard to explain

[dire igloo]

360 no scope: spin your character 360 degrees and somewhat blindly hit your enemy

[dire igloo]

3,600 no scope: spin 10x

[charred pewter]

oh

maybe ?

[dire igloo]

That's cuz your mouse teleported across the screen

[charred pewter]

but yeah, that drawing kinda explains it .... its 'jittery' moving the camera at a lower dpi, than a higher one

[dire igloo]

Let's see a precision test but you have to navigate your cursor through a maze

[narrow folio]

https://www.reddit.com/r/QuakeChampions/s/zPGRlzh9qR

[dire igloo]

So high DPI low sens?

[charred pewter]

i dont know of any the science or essays about it ... its just what i kinda discovered on my own fiddling with settings

[narrow folio]

High DPI, low sensitivity is my way to go

[charred pewter]

yeah, high dpi, and then lower the sensativy really low... means you still turn 180 with the same travel on the mouse pad... but the 'smoothness' of it doing that is much ... smoother ?

[night girder]

what is all this? Who cares if you mouse makes shaky lines or less shaky lines on high DPI? You aim for the head*and kill people. Not draw lines.

[dire igloo]

Interesting, TIL

[dire igloo]

It's the difference between chest hit and headshot

[narrow folio]

Use a scope

[dire igloo]

Or headshot and miss

[night girder]

what game?

Some games have breathing mechanics while scoping. So even then DPI doesn't matter.

[charred pewter]

hehe ... when aiming through a sniper rifle and trying to hit a head 1km away ... those low DPI 'jerks' is either to the left of the head, or to the right of the head 😄

but, its not so much aiming hit that i like it... i just like how 'smoother' just slowly looking around with the camera is with high dpi low sense

[night girder]

I see. Talking counter strike (twitch shooters I guess it's called?) and not tactical shooters / milsims 😄

[charred pewter]

cause when im in the thick of it ... im whip shooting anyways, and its not about dpi at that point

[night girder]

My DPI is pretty low for ages, never noticed issues for FPS might look into it more.

[charred pewter]

right

[dire igloo]

Competitive shooters you mean?
Anywhere where split second precision is key basically

[charred pewter]

same ... i always had a low dpi cause i was like "how can people control the mouse when its high dpi, this is way too fast!!!!!" .... until i realized you had to turn down the senativity in windows/games if you raise the DPI ... then it all became clear to me. told my brother and he was like 'whoah... this is actually nice' ... kind of a 'oh really?' moment

[night girder]

nah, because that overwatch is also a competitive shooter

[dire igloo]

Will definitely try

[night girder]

and it's a different beast than CS

[charred pewter]

its not for every game .... i set my razer synapse per game that benefit ... like far cry's really benefit from it... but something like satisfactory or factorio doesnt

[night girder]

but kinda I guess. Anything not milsim I guess? I mean the moment you scope and you have breathing mechanics and you need to press shift to hold breath etc. DPI is the least of your worries 😄

[dire igloo]

R6 is a tactical shooter and falls in the category of "twitch shooters" (whatever that even means)

[maiden coyote]

the last shooter i enjoyed.. sorta was destiny 2.. and I didn't really understand how the game worked lol

[night girder]

twitchy (fast)

[charred pewter]

i actually turned my DPI WAY UP for "Sniper Ghost Warrior" games, even though they had scopes and breathing mechanics ... the smoothness of camera control really helped

[night girder]

interesting

I change ingame DPI and all is good 😛 - I still use a little trick someone thought me when I was about 12 🤣

[charred pewter]

ingame DPI ?

[night girder]

mouse sensitivity

or whatever they call it in the settings

[dire igloo]

What trick?

[charred pewter]

its all personal preference though, what it all boils down too. do what feels good and looks right to you

[night girder]

360 degree.

I keep changing the mouse sensitivity untill I can do a 360 degree turn with little effort. So I can try to duel if I get attacked in the back (but if attacked from behind you are already in a disadvantage).

[charred pewter]

you can still achieve that with a high dpi, and low sensativity settings .... the only difference is that the camera movement ticks are smoother

[night girder]

I never bother with DPI

every game handles sensitivity of the mouse different by default.

[charred pewter]

its a hassle to be sure, especially if you dont have software to manage/change it on the fly per program

[night girder]

So why set the DPI if ever games does it different anyway. I have to change mouse sensitivity.

and I never noticed a difference between the two untill I read this discussions

[charred pewter]

its like .... uh ... its like seeing a game on a 144hz monitor for the first time after years of 60hz ....

if you dont notice or tried now, dont ruin yourself and try 😄

[narrow folio]

why do rally cars set different settings on different tracks? Because that is the difference between a nice and a great setup and will change the time you get on each different track

[night girder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRRlnx3n3Qc

even shroud says: you can go 400 DPI and set high mouse sensitivity 🤣

[narrow folio]

so for me it's worth the bit of time to find the right DPI/sens settings for each game

[night girder]

so I assume even the pro's aren't really arsed with it

[charred pewter]

clearly someone either trolling, or completely clueless to what dpi/sense do 😄

or someone who doesnt like 'enjoying' the game/world itself while playing a game lol

[edgy hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/preference-glarses-mx-brown-cherry-mx-brown-keyboard-gif-21044520

[charred pewter]

heh!

[night girder]

nah second video shroud: "dpi doesn't really matter, man"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ5q3ppf4Hs

[charred pewter]

i bet you anything he also has a video about 144hz doesnt matter and 60hz is fine

[night girder]

Just want to know what the pro's think about it tbh 😒

[charred pewter]

ie: someone to ignore, completely, because they dont have a clue

[night girder]

since they spend days perfecting their craft

[charred pewter]

they also turn down every graphical setting, and turn off shadows, and disable all manner of things to get speed over visuals

[night girder]

haha shroud says the same as me 🤣

[dire igloo]

I can totally see them not doing that.
They pick something they think feels good and then just train with that

[charred pewter]

for me: i like to visually ENJOY a game ... as much as play it

[dire igloo]

Constant changes need constant retraining

[night girder]

euh what Fireworker? Pretty sure they find the sweet spot in every game and then start practicing.

[dire igloo]

Which is also why a lot of RL pros and coaches tell you to not constantly change camera settings

[charred pewter]

but if i was in a esports, competition ...... i would be trying to find whats the fastest way to kill another player, and not give 2 shits about anything 🤷

[dire igloo]

I think they find a local maximum, but I doubt they bother with checking for other local maxima or even a global maximum

[night girder]

and calibrating the mouse can take days.

and also, who the hell doesn't do this incremental in small changes?

I don't go from 1.0 -> 2.0 for mouse sensitivity. I play a day with 1.1 and then 1.2 untill I find a sweet spot.

[charred pewter]

this is why i tweak each game to 'feel' the same as each other game. which requires adjusting the dpi/sense that works ... so they all feel the same to me

[night girder]

Small changes and your muscle memory should be able to adjust quickly.

[charred pewter]

it was like when i launched up The Forest, and its mouse control was JACKED, and i had to adjust the dpi down because the game itself couldnt support it with its in-game sensativity settings

also why i change keybindings so that 'crouch' is on 'C' instead of 'ctrl' LOL

[night girder]

couch? 😄

[narrow folio]

crouch to the couch, correct 💯

[charred pewter]

and 'R' is for 'R'eload damit ... not F or G

[night girder]

Wanted to know what game you are playing to bind the couch to C haha 😄

Maybe the Sims haha 🤣

[dire igloo]

That'll bring you to a local maximum, not a global maximum

[charred pewter]

crouch ...

[narrow folio]

my base setup is to be able to do a 360 without moving my arm

[dire igloo]

I always move crouch to ctrl

[charred pewter]

my pinky doesnt work with ctrl enough to have it as crouch ...

[night girder]

same here, more or less 🙂

[dire igloo]

I ain't that fckn flexible

[night girder]

x = prone, c = crouch, ctrl + mouse wheel to adjust my character height in Tarkov. (you can set your character between standing and crouching with fine control)

[charred pewter]

for me its a 180 without reaching the end of the mouse pad ...

if i have to lift to 180 .. then i got it set wrong

[dire igloo]

I work in IT, Ctrl-commands and Shift for typing are super natural already

Tho I do put spring on shift and crouch on Ctrl for Minecraft

[night girder]

Have you played Arma III? 😏

[charred pewter]

I work on a mac, so its all Shift and Command 😄

[night girder]

So many keybinds that you have little options to play around with.

every key combination does something in that game. I never got into it. Too high learning curve.

[dire igloo]

I work on a Linux notebook.
(That just acts as a thin client for Citrix and ultimately ends in a windows VM)

[charred pewter]

thats ONE benefit to crappy "console ports" ... they dont have enough keys to work with, so the game is dumbed down already, so rebinding a keybinds on PC port is easy 😄

[night girder]

True, but also sometimes console games limit the potentional of a PC. But I agree with you. It just works in both directions imo.

[dire igloo]

FTB wants to have a word with you

[narrow folio]

dumbed down or made unnecessary complicated

[charred pewter]

true there... some actions can be the same key, you just hold for longer to do it ...

[dire igloo]

Anyways, time to mount GPU and SSD

[charred pewter]

tap R to reload ... HOLD R to change ammo type ...

[night girder]

have fun fireworker

[narrow folio]

have fun 👍

[night girder]

Yeah, that sounds like a console port to PC

playing a lot of RDR2 and I notice that it's a console game first and PC game second.

[charred pewter]

"hold e to interact" ... guh, seriously? when tapping e has no action to it? just let me TAP E to interact !!! ... thats the thing that is annoying. Haha, its like in No Mans Sky where you have to CLICK AND HOLD left mouse button on basically everything in the game, wtf

[narrow folio]

RoDeoRider2😁

[night girder]

some stuff is just a bit weird/janky on the PC, and I have a full keyboard and only a few buttons are used since well... it's made for a controller

[charred pewter]

yeah, rdr2 is also a rockstar game, and their UX has always been shit across everything they have made

[night girder]

Oi! No dissing RDR2. This game is a masterpiece 😉

[narrow folio]

never played it myself, but it does look awesome

[charred pewter]

you just 'get used to it' ...

[night girder]

same, buddy of mine was playing starfield. I watched and was thinking... this is just fallout/elder scroll but in space. Same engine. Same controls. Same facial expressions. Everything is the same. Except. Spaaaaaace

[charred pewter]

but for sure, i have to invest my time into a rockstar game and not play ANY other game at the same time because of how screwy the controls are in rockstar games. it messes with the muscle memory

[narrow folio]

still the same engine? that would explain it

[night girder]

Yeah, they keep using the same engine 😭

I think it's the engine from fallout 2 or something haha.

They are trying to get modern era out of an old engine and it shows...

[charred pewter]

starfield is a space based rpg ... its good, but its not like the end-all-be-all space genre killer game of a lifetime ... just go into it as 'space rpg, it will be fun, just dont focus on the silly things'

[night girder]

I was interested in it, but after seeing my buddy play it. Fuck that. It looks boring. Faces are zombies / ugly. Character don't even look at you when they speak.

[narrow folio]

the gamebryo engin is ancient, but always get a ton of makeup to be pretty enough for the next deal

[charred pewter]

but if you wanna go into a game where you spend all your time shooting lights out, and bashing computer screens, and breaking windows .... no, starfield is not for you, go play gta4/5

[night girder]

You don't get any vehicles when you land on a planet.

so you have to walk slowly over the planet. and then walk all the way back to your ship.

[charred pewter]

🤷 its an rpg

[narrow folio]

maybe I'll give it a try when all the dlc are out and it's on sale for 10-20 bucks

[night girder]

Well, have fun with it frigid, I am not going to waste my time 😛

[charred pewter]

i basically walked everywhere in Hogwarts, cause it was fun to do ... only used the broom when needed, and generally avoided fast travel .... cause like ... it was an rpg adventure

[night girder]

yeah, if they patch up some of the issues it has right now I will play it too.

But Tod already said they don't want to add vehicles to the planet.

Because ... the engine can't handle it 🤣

[charred pewter]

not all games are for everyone 😉

sometimes i like to just waste 200 hours in an RPG ....

[night girder]

True, but there is talk on the internet Frigid. Something something overhyping a game... something something not delivering (again).

and I just agree. They overhyped it again.

[charred pewter]

i dont care what people think about a game, i care what i think about the game and if i personally can find enjoyment in it 😄

(plus it was free, so, no complaints)

[night girder]

I listen to other people, just to get a feel.

Only live so long. Can't waste all my time testing out stupid shit.

Like if a movie is 0/100 (10000 critics reviewed it), would you watch it?

[charred pewter]

yeah, i try to avoid hype or 'buzz' about a game ... its more fun to go into something completely unawares with zero expectations or notions

[night girder]

but I also understand you, sometimes you have to give something a try and maybe you will really enjoy it.

[charred pewter]

the only time i read reviews, is for physical stuff im buying like hardware, or appliances

[night girder]

Oh, I look up reviews for almost everything. Especially movies.

[charred pewter]

movies, books, games .... to me seem so subjective, its hard to know what "I" might actually like. I mean... people raved about ELDEN RING, and i tried it, and i absolulty think the game is 100% shit

[night girder]

Too many crap movies/games. So reviews help me weed out the bad ones 😄

[edgy hazel]

hehe weed

[narrow folio]

my last 'just give it a try, well that was rather unexpected but nice' was into the core👍

[night girder]

Yeah, it's not that a average review score is a garantuee you will like it.

But it does increase the chance you will like it.

Again, if a movie is 90/100 with a lot of reviews. Then the chance is just higher it's a good movie.

[charred pewter]

while i do glance at the '5 star rating' on amazon prime video .... and if something is 2 stars overall ... i might pass ...

depends on what it is though ... if its made by Gravitas ... yeah, definitely pass

but then i cant go by 5 star overall either, cause it could be some pile of shit feel-good-current-issues BS that actually has no escapism at all in it, and i will give it a 1 star when im done watching it having wasted 2 hours of my life

[night girder]

but again, liking something is subjective so not a science. But my philosophy is, I try to avoid wasting a lot on time on bad stuff 😄

[charred pewter]

yup

im finding a lot of things I absolutely dislike... are what a lot of people "like" (because they feel forced to like it or they are shunned publically) ...

[narrow folio]

some things are very special and will not be for the most of the casuals, but will be worth soo much for a small niche of players.
Hard to find, but totally worth it if it matches the personal taste

[night girder]

True.

[charred pewter]

yeah ... and some have a cult following, like elden ring

[night girder]

A lot of movies that are shown on those festivals, like Cannes, I don't like them always 😒 And they do win prizes 😒

[charred pewter]

its a niche player, but everyone in tht niche felt like they had to give their thumbs up and make it an 'overwhelmingly positive' reviewed game 😄

[night girder]

I am in that cult 😉

[charred pewter]

hehe

nothign wrong with that...

i gave it a go, but i just didnt like it at all, from performance, to functionality ......... i'll go spend 200 hours in rdr2 instead LOL

[night girder]

It's natural, FromSoftware earned the cult with all their previous games. So the hype for Elden Ring is big. I haven't played it. But I am looking forward to it. After RDR2 it's probably elden ring.

[charred pewter]

who knows if i will ever play Starfield .... maybe in 1-2 years after they 'fix' and 'add' to it

[night girder]

And then you have that writer... from Game Of Thrones. He worked on Elden Ring too. So even more hype.

[charred pewter]

but 'right now' the game runs too sluggish/crappy

[night girder]

That's why I beefed up my PC 😄

[charred pewter]

doesnt matter! even 4090 players gripe

[night girder]

Oh noes 😦

I am so happy with RDR2, upscaled, all ultra graphics (+ ray tracing) and 60-100 FPS 😄. 1080p though.

[charred pewter]

then you have blind fanbois all "but 20fps in the big city is fine, you dont need 60fps"

[narrow folio]

Transistor was a nice game for me because the story and art was great

[night girder]

but wth, doesn't it run at 60 FPS on PS5?

[charred pewter]

yeah, rdr2 ran quite well for me when i played the intro sequence.....

[night girder]

I though all games had to run at 60 FPS on PS5

[charred pewter]

yeah, thats a console though.... port to pc is shit

[night girder]

so they butchered the optimization 😭

[charred pewter]

same was with Hogwarts... was fluid and fine on xbox, but the pc port was a stuttery fuckfest

[night girder]

jeez, that's another title I wanted to play.

[narrow folio]

easier to optimize for fixed hardware

[night girder]

Maybe by the time I play them they are patched. #copium

[night girder]

Yeah, and I guess they don't want to waste too much time/money on the port.

[charred pewter]

with Hogwarts, i just avoided the town during the day, and the castle during the day .... the problem is the NPC code is bad, and the more NPCs 'awake' and around, the worse the stutters get

[narrow folio]

company doing the console2PC port

[charred pewter]

LOL!

[night girder]

When was that frigid?

[charred pewter]

but i 100% hogwarts.... it is a very fun game, with voice acting and cutscenes you actually want to sit through and not skip

[night girder]

when did you play it?

[charred pewter]

recently

finished it last week? two weeks ago?

[night girder]

and it ran like shit?

settings?

1440p?

[charred pewter]

maxed settings except ray trace (i personally saw no different with RT on, so i turned it off) ... it runs smooth/good when there arnt many NPCs around

its the NPC code which has nothing to do with the graphics

[night girder]

can you kill NPCs? 😏

[charred pewter]

only enemy NPCs

i was 120-144fps most the time, but the 'hiccups' (or stutters) were in areas with npcs, and didnt affect the framerate, but more of just ... hitching ... annoying glitch, most like npc pathing issues with the cpu or something i dunno

[night girder]

Hogwarts Legacy offers players the option to reduce population density. And doing so will assist in reducing the stutters that players face.

[charred pewter]

i had it to "low"

(lowest)

[night girder]

Now I am curious. I am going to wait for steam sale though. Not want to waste too much money on this game after hearing this.

[charred pewter]

but Hogsmede is filled with npcs regardless ... and that town is a hitchfest during the day

[night girder]

I will keep you posted. Wintersales probably.

[charred pewter]

😄

afterawhile i got used to it ... turned a blind eye ... went about my way

total time i spent though to get 100% achieves/completion is 110hours

[night girder]

I know that feeling (my old PC). But I was hoping to have a smooth experience with this new build.

[charred pewter]

my main character was Ravenclaw... then i had to make three other characters for each house to get the last 3achievements

[night girder]

I might try to 100% rdr2 but the online ones pff

[charred pewter]

my main 🙂

[night girder]

that hair looks beautifull

[charred pewter]

was a fun game

[night girder]

it's so sharp you can cut steel with it 🤣

[charred pewter]

im messing in the forest right now, but then i will head into rdr2 .... i expect rdr2 to take a year to finish =p

[night girder]

maybe you will not like it

[charred pewter]

i liked the intro

[night girder]

it's a different beast of a game, nothing like the intro.

[charred pewter]

i'll still enjoy it

[night girder]

wait, that's not true.

The intro is only a part of the whole experience, let me phrase it like that. Don't want to spoil.

[charred pewter]

im a sucker for 'pointless things to do in an open worldish game'

[night girder]

Oh, you will love it then I think 😄

[charred pewter]

i mean, i enjoyed gta4 and 5 despite the playable characters were all trash

[night girder]

Well, this game is more rooted in nature. And GTA is more a city game.

but other than that, mostly the same yes.

[charred pewter]

heck, even if it doesnt have fast travel, i would prolly have fun in it =p

but if im dying every two minutes from just some random npc, and having to start the game all over each time ... naw, i wont enjoy it

[night girder]

nah it's not like that.

It's the same as GTA.

[charred pewter]

but western

[night girder]

Did you finish 100% hogwarts with a guide?

[charred pewter]

guide????

[night girder]

like a steam guide, achievement guide.

[charred pewter]

uhh .... 🤔

[night girder]

because RDR2 100% blind looks very daunting to me 😄

[charred pewter]

i think i looked up one achievement .... uhhh maybe, maybe not, i cant recall which one though

no, maybe not ... i think i looked up "cant get into girls side of the dorm" ... cause there were treasure chests showing up over there i couldnt reach because i was a boy character

[night girder]

if you want to run it blind, prepare to spend a lot of hours

[charred pewter]

but if you play a girl character, you can reach all chests even on the boys side because they are allowed

yeah, i usually run all games blind

unless i hit a point where its like 'is this broken?'

like in The Forest i had to look up why I cant seem to move a piece of furniature ..... turns out you just CANT

sorry, i know all of this is NOT tech-talk

[narrow folio]

I sometimes look ahead in quest choices on a wiki to not run into unwanted arches / use the optimal path.

[charred pewter]

"consquences be damned" 😄

[night girder]

that's why I abuse saves 🤣

[narrow folio]

the consequence is that I spoilerd myself

[charred pewter]

lol

some games in the past i was so hell bent on choosing the 'right path' that i would look up the questlines n stuff so i didnt 'make a mistake'. ..... but nowadays, im like ... well, screwit, im doing this, and if it bites me in the ass, i'll just deal later

i have to try and put my moral compass on the backseat

"just enjoy the game... fly by the seat of your pants!"

really curious what sabrent is gonna say about the missing capacitors and apparent unstability of their new version sata enclosures

hoping its like 'a bad batch' that went out ... cause the two i got were only 16 digits different in serial number

[wanton orchid]

and you get shit accuracy

if you can't trust the game calculation, just set the game to 1:1 and tweak your mouse "dpi"

but no software can make up for the dpi
especially for small movements, and especially if it's real dpi (not fake f/real_dpi)

[charred pewter]

ugh, the connection im on here at this place (not home) ...

crappy comcast bs

[narrow folio]

I know way too many people who would be very happy with that 'crappy' connection

[upper plinth]

Literally my internet beffore last contract change. Just had a tiny bit higher upload back then. Lived with that for like 5 years

[narrow folio]

here on vacation, crappy Telekom

[upper plinth]

Still not as bad as network on my vacations lol
Just for context,I can't load discord on the holidays

[narrow folio]

and even at home 200/20 is what I get, 400/40 would cost 15€ more, but could be worth it. 1000/50 would cost way too much for the gain

[upper plinth]

I would say 200/20 isn't that bad for general use

[charred pewter]

ouch

im just surprised by the '10' upload with a 230 download

major lopsided

my original dsl when i moved to where im at:
9/20/2012
Download Speed: 8453 kbps (1056.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 844 kbps (105.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 33 ms

it then ended up as:
7/7/2022
PING 20 ms
DL 27.7 Mbps
UL 2.8 Mbps

before i moved to fiber ...

so yeah .... i guess 230/11 isnt really all that bad considering

i guess my perspective got blurred when i went to:
7/30/2023
PING 1 ms
DL 651.1
UL 326.4

[upper plinth]

I mean... I have 750 download with 40 upload

[charred pewter]

wow

[upper plinth]

I'm going to fight soon with the IPS to get higher upload, hopefully I will get somewhere

[charred pewter]

trade some dl for ul ?

[upper plinth]

Probably. But we will see

[charred pewter]

i know with 300ul, i can actually process files and videos at my own home office now with ease... not having to VNC to a remote machine (that sits on a fat pipe) to do them

it was excruciating uploading a 100mb video on a 3mb line 😄

"TIME FOR LUNCH!"

[upper plinth]

[upper plinth]

Enjoy!

[charred pewter]

(im not really eating lunch right now, it was a turn of phrase for what happens when you have to start something and wait a long time for it)

[upper plinth]

Ah Yea okay makes sense

I'm tired didn't catch that somehow

[maiden coyote]

I love that chrome tells my my default gateway is unsafe. makes me feel so safe

[prisma yoke]

Wish mine was like this

[pure karma]

well i generally have 0 but only when connected to stuff in north america

[prisma yoke]

Thats my wifi at home bro- 🥺

what-

[pure karma]

this is my wifi at home download sucks cuz half of it is unusable (this is Canadian fiber optic btw its complete trash)

[prisma yoke]

well my download speed is supposed to be way faster than what i actually get, the best i ever got was 30mb/s on steam

comunity internet?

[pure karma]

im asuming just public wifi networks

[prisma yoke]

i never connect to public wifi it always sucks

Mobile data keeps me afloat

[pure karma]

yea i dont have data tho...

[jagged snow]

Fun fact, my local speedtest server won't even do a full 100 megs

[pure karma]

one thing i did find out is i download a lot more stuff then i tought i did lol

[upper plinth]

I have 400 gig of use in the past 30 days. But it wasn't that heavy month for me

500 gigs is often in my case

[charred pewter]

they actually say im able to sign up for 2gb

i laughed at the guy

[prisma yoke]

123 GB of usage here

[dusk rivet]

i average 100gb a month

maybe closer to 140

[jagged snow]

The interesting part of that is that over half is from chrome

[prisma yoke]

Majortiy for me is steam, 79 gigs out of 123

[dusk rivet]

i need barebone keyboard makers to add hotkeys

[jagged snow]

ahk isn't working for you?

[dusk rivet]

oh no it’s nice

i mean a little finicky

sometimes doesn’t launch when my computer restarts

but definitely nicer than not having it

[jagged snow]

Oh weird

[dusk rivet]

dedicated hotkeys would still be great tho

[jagged snow]

I haven't had a script fail to start in the five years I've been using it, wonder if it's an issue with v2

[jagged snow]

Some keyboards do

[maiden coyote]

this is good yes?

[jagged snow]

Reviews say yes

If it were me I'd spring for another 10 dollars and buy an evga 500br

Currently have it running some 12v systems on my workbench

[maiden coyote]

I need the side fan

[jagged snow]

Ah

[maiden coyote]

also my internet usage lol

I think that's the last 24 hours.

or the last 7 days. I'm not sure xd

[jagged snow]

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=834-W0-12US-KR

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=811-W1-20US-KR

[maiden coyote]

I'm looking at getting this chassis.. and while it has the top vent for a normal psu, where it's going it'll be blocked by another server

[jagged snow]

You could just do sfx with a mounting plate

If you don't want to trust off-brand psu

I like usba

[maiden coyote]

400W should be more than enough. no gpu.. The system is an i7 4th gen that'll be used as a proxmox server for my cameras, and whatever else

it's just I'll be very upset if it dies and takes out my server.

[jagged snow]

In that case it should be plenty

[maiden coyote]

til you break one and realise damn.. I wish I had usb a.. I could change that with a dollar store soldering iron

[jagged snow]

Instead of needing a hot air station

[maiden coyote]

Power requirements are not a concern.. only catastrophic death of the unit. the SFX adapter plate is a good idea though.. that's probably what I'll do

[jagged snow]

I'm starting to become less enamored with it, the port on my phone is starting to go bad

[maiden coyote]

I've got way too much shit to trust a $20 to.

[jagged snow]

So I don't mind seeing usb-a stay on my desktop

[maiden coyote]

and a lot of experience soldering too. hot air station alone is not enough

[jagged snow]

True

There's 12 conductors in that standard

Is that why you were worried about the induction stove?

[sharp oasis]

Bought the pixel 6

I hope wthis goes well

[jagged snow]

That's what I said when I bought my new gpu

[sharp oasis]

I bought Referb so

... Hope it goes ok

[jagged snow]

Titanium is not ferrous

[sharp oasis]

normally referbished is better then Simply used

[jagged snow]

Nope

It's like aluminum in that sense

There are titanium alloys which contain iron, but that's the exception

[sharp oasis]

I should have bought a 2 tb SSD

[jagged snow]

2tbh is nice to have

[sharp oasis]

i have my 1Tb ssd

and a 2tb hdd thats slow asf

[edgy hazel]

gang shit

[maiden coyote]

more

[edgy hazel]

all SSD tho

[maiden coyote]

I'll be adding 2 20tb hdd's soon(tm)

but damn, 4tb ssd..

[edgy hazel]

yeah for only 160€

[maiden coyote]

I just looked them up... they're what a paid for a 1tb samsung 980 nvme a couple years ago lol

[edgy hazel]

PCIE 4.0 too. Isn't the fastest or something but is 100% okay for game storage

[upper plinth]

Finally found the cause of why Youtube anti-adblock was still catching me on uBlock + Firefox combo
god damn other extension for yt was actually yeeting ads without my knowledge, and that was the thing being catched by youtube. Disabled that option and it works

[maiden coyote]

it's headless.

[dusk rivet]

that doesn’t look like a barebones

[dusk rivet]

neither does that

[jagged snow]

You could strip it

[dire igloo]

Keychron has some

[jagged snow]

@wintry harness what was your question?

[dire igloo]

Durgod Taurus, Monsgeek M1

[dusk rivet]

i didn’t see if they were hotswap

[cyan crescent]

Are there any good recent mp3 players out there?

[gilded helm]

If it counts, the LG V60.

[cyan crescent]

Is that a phone?

I dont want a phone. I want a device specifically for playing mp3 files, music.

[dusk rivet]

gonna be weirdly specific, but do you know of any wireless 65% metal casing barebones keyboards, if they have hotkeys it'd be amazing but not a must

[jagged snow]

I don't

[dusk rivet]

all good

i’ll resume my efforts tmr

[stray badger]

65% with hotkeys is unlikely

[pure karma]

there is in fact no such thing as too much storage

[twin dew]

Yes, wired signal will be tiny bit slower than wireless signal over same distance, if you discount the transmitter and receiver processing latencies etc.
But the difference over less than 5m distance the mouse will have is so insignificant that it isn't relevant.
And if the wired mode is noticeable slower, then it is implementation fault.

[twin dew]

Well, it doesn't matter when it is high enough.
Not going to watch the video to see what was the minimum value and what was the resolution used.

My mouse DPI is set to be fine at 1:1 on Windows desktop.

Because the Windows mouse "sensitivity" slider is just stupid on how it is implemented.

If you go one step down from the default 1:1 (1 pixel of movement per 1 tick of mouse movement), you will have your cursor movement start ignoring some of the ticks, and moving single pixel on others (ratio depends on the setting).
And if you go up, you will first IIRC start to move 1 pixel on every other tick and 2 pixels on the others.
And then to 2 pixels every tick, and so on.

So everything but the default 1:1 is just unusable.

[twin dew]

Well, expectation is that anyone buying that thing will not have that many servers.
So you can have two next to each other by putting ones PSU upside down and one right side up.
But most rack cases use flow through design for reason.

Whops, read wrong, not bottom but side cooling as the other option for PSU.

But there is reason why rack cases usually don't use standard ATX etc. PSUs

[twin dew]

And on that need to remember that USB also has transmitter and receiver in the mix,
Just wired ones.

One possibility is that the wired connection was running at USB default 125hz polling rate, and the wireless was 500+hz.

[tough owl]

Interesting

took a photo on my 15 pro max at night in raw

opened it in light room and cranked the exposure

[rotund hamlet]

that looks like a mattress that you just pulled out of a swamp

[languid gulch]

if you were moving you'd be able to see which way the shutter moves

[tough owl]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-what-are-you-doing-in-my-swamp-swamp-gif-22162082

[wanton orchid]

it's very likely
especially on windows which does not go up in polling wired for some (probably stupid) reasons
but you can boost Bluetooth connect very fine

[twin dew]

Nah, if the USB dongle could go to higher polling, it was just implementation problem.

My wired mouse can do 125Hz, 500Hz or 1000Hz by just selecting on a button under the mouse.

[wanton orchid]

?

[twin dew]

Nothing touched on Windows side.

No special driver, no program etc.

[wanton orchid]

it is on windows side

[twin dew]

No, the device can ask for specific rate.

In the USB device descriptor that it sends.

[wanton orchid]

and it's Windows to deliver

[twin dew]

Yes, and it delivers fine.

[wanton orchid]

not in windows 11 on wired apparently

[twin dew]

Ok, no idea about Win 11, works fine on Win 10.

[wanton orchid]

yes

[twin dew]

Windows on GUI computers (so my desktops and laptop), Text only Linux on the server and firewall.

[wanton orchid]

except for graphic driver

[twin dew]

Seems to have been fixed in KB5028185 in May

[wanton orchid]

the version I tested is July

last one

[twin dew]

Some mouse polling testers don't work properly in Win11.
forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?t=12157

[wanton orchid]

but they really said "combined result"
do they mean stacked in one packet
or are they stupid enough to shut down the resolution
this is effectively making it 8ms latency
what I experience is 3.2ms on any device running windows 11

the only way it can report it with packets without lowering the effect too much is embedding mouse event timestamps and putting them as a list

anything else with greatly shut down the actual resolution

and for games 125 is very much too low
so I expect they were talking about "background events"
but they also decreased it for foreground events as it's only 3.2ms now instead of 1ms

the only polling rate that is fine is 1000 and maybe 500
250 and 125 is only ok for not mouse focused applications
like editors and web browsers

[twin dew]

Something VERY weird happened!
The UEFI booted in safe mode because failed memory training!
First ever on any AM4 or AM5 system I have seen.

[prisma yoke]

The only really notable differences i noticed were on win11 were basically just visuals and I.. really like the middle oriented tool bar

[twin dew]

I would like to get the backend changes without the UI changes.
When those are almost completely separate.

But with the 23H2 re-adds I can actually switch if I want to.

Features in Win10 that got removed in Win11 until now.

[prisma yoke]

I wll be honest, im not a computer smart person so i dont know what changed beside the UI

[stray badger]

Mostly UI things they removed

You cant open task manager by right clicking on taskbar anymore iirc

Taskbar cannot be moved

[charred pewter]

i open task manager from taskbar

[prisma yoke]

yeah it is still possible

[night girder]

ctrl + alt + delete or win key "task"

[charred pewter]

my taskbar looks a lot like it did in win10 too ... things are on the left, icons on the right ... although i DO have it on the bottom because thats where windows taskbar has been for me forever

[night girder]

didn't know right click taskbar did it too on W11

[night girder]

same, windows menu was always left, since I used 95 can't change that.

[prisma yoke]

[charred pewter]

but yeah, im always right-clicking the taskbar to bring up task manager so i can adjust affinity for those games that cant understand my e-cores lol

[prisma yoke]

I just found out about right clicking the toolbar to bring up task manager, i always been bringing up the start menu to open it, thanks guys

[dire igloo]

wait until you find out about rightclicking the windows icon

[prisma yoke]

oh shit-

You are awesome

[charred pewter]

now, something i found i DONT like about win11 ..... is general right-clicking files, a lot of the more useful stuff is under a secondary 'more shit' selection, which seems pointless to me why they did that

[night girder]

yeah

[prisma yoke]

That I agree with, I tried to react with ☝️ but i cant do that

[night girder]

microsoft likes to do stuff like that

same with the settings vs control panel

even in W11 you still have two places to configure it.

[charred pewter]

i can never find where to ajust sound settings right ... how many different panels or windows are there 😄

[night girder]

hell, you can probably configure windows in 100 seperate places.

[prisma yoke]

Right click a file > show more options > rename
why?
Why not just right click>rename

[charred pewter]

or properties under those, or extra settings, or mixer, or

[night girder]

doubt even Microsoft knows em all.

[charred pewter]

problem is if they got rid of any one location to consolidate them all to a nice organized singular location ..... ALL the people who recalled how to configure something in any of those many other locations, will bitch

[night girder]

that's a stupid argument to keep legacy features forever.

[charred pewter]

yup !

[night girder]

microsoft does it too with powershell, they keep older versions (with security risks) installed because of backwards compatibility of scripts.

[charred pewter]

Microsoft: "Eh, it all works... leave it in. We dont want to remove functionality or remove backwards compatibility and be like Apple"

[night girder]

In my opinion, they should do that for a year or two and then pull the plug. Python 2 made the same mistake. It took YEARS untill they pulled the plug out of python 2 and force people to switch to 3.

if they keep doing this illogical stuff, we would still have features from the 90's for "backwards compatibility".

and all these security patches MS pushes out each day gives a false sense of security since they have all those old features enable making the attack vector for windows massive.

[charred pewter]

yeah... but ... things still work even in win11 that were released back in win95 days 😄

try saying that for the 80% of apps that have all died on macos because apple was like 'meh, backwards compatibility'

[night girder]

Yeah, and it's leaky AF. Like I said few days ago. The printer service can give hackers root access to a PC. That's how leak this ship is.

[charred pewter]

😄

you dont have your pc behind a firewall ? hehehe

[night girder]

You cannot have good security + backwards compatibility. Because old code is just insecure. Technology changes.

[night girder]

printer service is allowed by firewall, it's a microsoft/windows service. Default.