#off-topic-tech | Satisfactory | Page 6

upper plinth Oct 28, 2023, 5:55 PM

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Just to force me to say "Screw W10 W11 will probably be better" what in reality we know is not true ever

wanton orchid Oct 28, 2023, 5:56 PM

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I can't confirm
but that's what I usually experience after Microsoft start to push for big updates usually

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and it's usually stupid bugs that does not relate to other stuff and is not threatening anything directly

upper plinth Oct 28, 2023, 5:58 PM

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I wouldn't be suprised if this is actually what they are doing lmao

wanton orchid Oct 28, 2023, 5:58 PM

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and guess what I don't get that stuff when updates are fully disabled (from installation or from before major update releases)
or only for components that have been updated (like completely bugging windows 10 calculator after letting windows store update itself and windows 11 is completely out)

upper plinth Oct 28, 2023, 5:59 PM

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Well, the thing is that this did happen after updating GPU Drivers, updating and reinstalling them again didn't fix it, and it was happening like that always after updates, but fixing itself after a reboot. Gave some more info about the issue yeasterday, but didn't found a fix still :v

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For now, I'm too focues on trying to repair my phone that decided to die today and can't boot even to recovery mode somehow, so I just gave up trying to fix this W10 explorer bug

solemn iris Oct 28, 2023, 7:49 PM

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I kinda want to make a hand-crank powered lamp, but I need a generator

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What should I watch out for?

cobalt ivy Oct 28, 2023, 7:54 PM

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cuts and pricks from the windings

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have good pair of work gloves

jagged snow Oct 28, 2023, 8:09 PM

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solemn iris I kinda want to make a hand-crank powered lamp, but I need a generator

If you don't already have a generator, there are some very cheap (5-10$) toys that come with a motor that's perfect to charge 1s lipo

solemn iris Oct 28, 2023, 8:16 PM

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Good to know

languid gulch Oct 28, 2023, 11:22 PM

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i kinda wonder what kinds of game mechanics devs are terrified to change

charred pewter Oct 28, 2023, 11:24 PM

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that was sadly 'quick' to be repaired... on a saturday even ... so im fully expecting this laptop to crap itself YET AGAIN in a week ...

languid gulch Oct 28, 2023, 11:29 PM

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one of my games had a change recently, where there's an option to reverse your keystroke to bypass one animation

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originally, if you hit shift, you'd block

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stop all movement

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but if you hit block, then move, you'd tumble

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now, you can just tap shift to tumble & bypass block

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& it took about 2 seconds for players to figure out that you can now move faster if you just time the tumbles right, instead of running

wanton orchid Oct 28, 2023, 11:33 PM

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what game is that ?

languid gulch Oct 28, 2023, 11:33 PM

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jagged snow Oct 28, 2023, 11:34 PM

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Looks like ups denied the claim on my gpu

wanton orchid Oct 28, 2023, 11:35 PM

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claim ?
the one completely folded in itself ?

jagged snow Oct 28, 2023, 11:35 PM

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Yep

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They're likely going to state improper packaging

languid gulch Oct 28, 2023, 11:37 PM

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"we kicked it 15x going from house to house, but it's they're fault for not using a $4000 pelican case"

jagged snow Oct 28, 2023, 11:39 PM

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Definitely not the best packing job I've ever seen, but I would still expect it to be functional on arrival

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There was more than that in the box, I just had to remove enough that they could see the gpu for the claim

wanton orchid Oct 28, 2023, 11:44 PM

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the classical "remove A so we can validate your claim"
"oh we see your claim is not valid because there is no A or A got removed"
see you another day for more corruption

jagged snow Oct 28, 2023, 11:45 PM

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Seller said they didn't even provide a reson for denying the claim and they're making him call customer service on monday to find out

languid gulch Oct 29, 2023, 12:01 AM

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i bought a ryobi battery charger recently that had ZERO internal packing. no bag, no foam, no bubble wrap. & it was new

jagged snow Oct 29, 2023, 12:13 AM

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I'm grilling burgers and my hand just froze to the bbq

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:58 AM

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getting cold outside

languid gulch Oct 29, 2023, 2:11 AM

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definitely time for long sleeves

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:19 AM

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wdym its been like 0.1C for like 2 weeks untill today long sleves indeed

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:25 AM

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languid gulch definitely time for long sleeves

that's still warm

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:26 AM

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yea 24C is the conversion for that

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my room is 23C lol

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:26 AM

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anything below 70f is getting cool, anything above 70f is getting warm, above 80 is hot, below 60 is cold

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:26 AM

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which is very hot considering the heatign is set to 18

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:27 AM

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i'd love it if my house was 18c all the time

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:27 AM

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not exited for this week lol

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:27 AM

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my body runs hot

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:28 AM

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looking at in in Celsius makes it genuinely hurt more somehow

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:28 AM

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i'm gonna die
(f)

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:28 AM

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very difrent results lol

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:29 AM

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yeah lol

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:29 AM

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November predictions are defedently something

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considering last year broke the record for the hotest november

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:30 AM

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celsius will forever confuse me

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:30 AM

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0=freeze

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:30 AM

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i mean i know that

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:30 AM

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in f 32=freeze

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:30 AM

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but i'm used to seeing 60 and going "oh kinda chilly"

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in celsius if it's 60 being outside would probably kill you

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:30 AM

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problem fixed

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:31 AM

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much more comfy for my american brain

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i was just reminded that the us federal government uses the waffle house index and i can't stop laughing

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:33 AM

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im really confused by these predictions there will be 9 snowy or rainy days in november but 2 from december-march

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:33 AM

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i got exactly 0 snowy days last year and i'm sad

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i love the snow so much

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:34 AM

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i miss the days when cannada got snow up to the tops of power poles allmost every year lol

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now like 2 Feet takes a miracle

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:34 AM

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does canada have waffle houses?

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:35 AM

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idk probably in vancouver lol

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:35 AM

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which one is the french city

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:35 AM

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gonna go whit a no

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:35 AM

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huh

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:35 AM

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dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:36 AM

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QUEBEC

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even the name sounds french

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:36 AM

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dusk rivet which one is the french city

quebec or come meet me in NB lol

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:36 AM

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NB?

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:36 AM

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Nb is legally bilingual so french and english

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:36 AM

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what does nb stand for

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:37 AM

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New Brunswick

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:37 AM

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honestly thought that might've been in the us

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i don't go to other states enough

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:37 AM

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above maine next to penis on the map lol

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:37 AM

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i love that description

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waffle house index will never not be funny to me

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:38 AM

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best part is im not even wrong

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manitoba is literally just called Man

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:40 AM

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honestly love how chill the us and canada are

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:41 AM

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if im being honest cops are even chill in canada lol i see like one a month if im lucky lol

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:41 AM

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cops in the us are very hit or miss

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they are either god awful, or great

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:41 AM

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yeaaaaa

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:42 AM

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not uncommon to get a bs ticket just cause a cop was in a bad mood

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but also not uncommon to not get a legitimate ticket cause the cop was in a good mood

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:42 AM

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your chance of breaking the law in front of people and not getting cought in canada is probably like 90% you can do practically anything

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:43 AM

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smaller the town the more chill the cops tend to be

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:43 AM

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yea

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love being in a town for everything but stores

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:43 AM

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guess the sense of belonging helps

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 2:45 AM

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love living on the french side of canada becasue the random chaos you see is just great

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and its generally more chill than the english side if im being honest

jagged snow Oct 29, 2023, 4:15 AM

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dusk rivet smaller the town the more chill the cops tend to be

Yeah, our cops here are great

jagged snow Oct 29, 2023, 4:16 AM

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pure karma and its generally more chill than the english side if im being honest

My region of Canada is just the same as the US but... more Canada?

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When I cross the border it looks basically the same but also very different if that makes sense

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 4:18 AM

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canada is the us but chill and gunless

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atleast in a nutshell it is

jagged snow Oct 29, 2023, 4:18 AM

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IDK about the gunless part 🤣

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 4:18 AM

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well if you dont have a hunting license it is

jagged snow Oct 29, 2023, 4:19 AM

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On the western half it's pretty common

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Nothing like the US but 🤷‍♂️

zenith sequoia Oct 29, 2023, 6:00 AM

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Yo, just an update. Few months ago I talked through some problems with my graphics card with you guys (zotac 3080 thermal limiting) I finally repasted it this week, it’s not hitting 82 c literally all the time anymore 🙂

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Still fairly hot tbh. Maybe 75c under load, but no throttling now so whateves

upper plinth Oct 29, 2023, 7:37 AM

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\o/

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Also update on my Windows problems :P
Today is the day when Windows decided "I'm suddenly gonna fix myself for no reason". I have still no idea how to force it to work, but hey I'm not gonna complain if it works now 😄

narrow folio Oct 29, 2023, 9:11 AM

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the mysterious ways windows fixes itself 🤣

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looking forward to more manufacturers hopping on the no cable visible train

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 10:29 AM

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dusk rivet in celsius if it's 60 being outside would probably kill you

C is almost twice bigger than F
so if you see 60 C it's like 130F (120 + a bit of the 32 offset)

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well apparently it's 140

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not so far

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for every 10 "F" you can remove 1 from the offset
so 120 -12 +32 = 140

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30C would give :
30x2 =60 - 6 + 32 = 86F

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wait it's not away

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it's exact values

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I like my new technic

upper plinth Oct 29, 2023, 10:36 AM

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Meanwhile I'm always getting confused by F lmao. People say Oh its 80 today it's gonna be a nice day.
Meanwhile me thinking they have 80C outside somehow sf_post_nobelisk

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 10:36 AM

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0C
0x2 = 0 - 0 +32 = 32

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80 is a bit too hot for me

upper plinth Oct 29, 2023, 10:37 AM

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From the math above it's like around 28/29C? Yea a bit 😅 Depends on what you want to do tbh. In such days going outside to swim in a lake is great, but doing work outside is a torture

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 10:38 AM

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let's try random numbers

17C
17x2 = 34 -3.4 +32 = 62.6F

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it works so well smh

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27C
27x2 = 54 -5.4 +32 = 80.6F

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So it's less than 27

upper plinth Oct 29, 2023, 10:40 AM

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snuttstach_think

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Okay not that bad then actually, still 25 is better

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 10:40 AM

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I prefer 24

mental oriole Oct 29, 2023, 10:41 AM

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narrow folio looking forward to more manufacturers hopping on the no cable visible train

Couldnt care more tbh.

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 10:41 AM

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24x2 = 48 - 4.8 +32 = 75.2F

mental oriole Oct 29, 2023, 10:42 AM

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mental oriole Couldnt care more tbh.

My cables are already hidden... inside my case.

upper plinth Oct 29, 2023, 10:42 AM

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Well anywhere between 23 and 26 I would say it's good. Above is too hot, below starts to be chilly

tribal kraken Oct 29, 2023, 11:48 AM

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About -8C for me. Perfect for motorcycle ride

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:19 PM

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is Crucial a decent SSD ? (for external enclosure) ... like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-BX500-480GB-2-5-Inch-Internal/dp/B07G3KGYZQ/

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:32 PM

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charred pewter is Crucial a decent SSD ? (for external enclosure) ... like this one: <https://w...

Model over brand, Crucial MX500 is great, BX500 is shit.
Don't get an SSD without DRAM for an external enclosure

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:33 PM

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wanton orchid let's try random numbers 17C 17x2 = 34 -3.4 +32 = 62.6F

-40?

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 1:35 PM

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dire igloo -40?

what do you mean ?

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for random number ?

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:36 PM

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wanton orchid what do you mean ?

What does your method return for -40C converted to F?

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Or any negative C for that mattee

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 1:37 PM

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-40c
-40x2 = -80 + 8 +32 = -40F

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is that what it is supposed to show ?

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:37 PM

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im not looking for a high performance gaming drive that needs beels n whistles and costs $200 ... im just trying to find a solid dependable drive for time machine backups, and disk clones

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 1:37 PM

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wanton orchid -40c -40x2 = -80 + 8 +32 = -40F

looks like it

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:37 PM

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not wanting to spend an arm and a leg for it... since these should be a dime a dozen

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if a BX500 is an unreliable, buggy, crashy, corrupting shit ... ok, i will pass

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😄

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ive had those before with SanDisk ... never buying from those people again

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 1:40 PM

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lets try -53.5c
-53.5x2 = -107 +10.7 +32 = -96.3 +32 = -64.3F

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looks like it still

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:42 PM

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charred pewter im not looking for a high performance gaming drive that needs beels n whistles a...

Backups means writes means you need DRAM because otherwise writes will be slow as shit

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HMB only works over PCIe

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 1:42 PM

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I would like to find similar technic for fahrenheit to celcius though, but it does not look like it will be easy
multiply by 2 and divide by 10 and addition of integer are really straightforward
but in the reverse way I dont find really straightforward

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 1:43 PM

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wanton orchid I would like to find similar technic for fahrenheit to celcius though, but it do...

I even think the additions are the worse part imo

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:43 PM

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wanton orchid lets try -53.5c -53.5x2 = -107 +10.7 +32 = -96.3 +32 = -64.3F

That's because you're using the correct formula

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:43 PM

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hmm... but DRAM is small where a long sustained write isnt going to matter either way ?

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:43 PM

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It's factor 1.8 plus 32

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:43 PM

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i thought DRAM helped in matters of lots of little read/writes (like for a system drive)

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:43 PM

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charred pewter hmm... but DRAM is small where a long sustained write isnt going to matter eithe...

DRAM isn't for cache, it's to store the flash table

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:44 PM

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ah

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 1:44 PM

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yep but I mean it's a trick of splitting the factor 1.8 to very straightforward operations

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:44 PM

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On NVMe that is, idk about SATA

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Could actually be storing transmitted data

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 1:44 PM

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but I dont find really straightforward operations splitting for x5/9

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:44 PM

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Anyways, for anything that is NOT pcie and you want solid write performance, get a drive with DRAM

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:45 PM

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weird ... my other backup ssd is a Kingston ... 500gb sata 3... no dram. I've not noticed a slowdown ???

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:45 PM

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wanton orchid yep but I mean it's a trick of splitting the factor 1.8 to very straightforward ...

I'll use that from now on, not that I often use it

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:45 PM

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charred pewter weird ... my other backup ssd is a Kingston ... 500gb sata 3... no dram. I've no...

Cuz it's slow from the beginning

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:45 PM

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lol

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still faster than my nas 😄

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hm

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:46 PM

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NAS is usually HDD

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:46 PM

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so an MX500 ...

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:46 PM

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And network bandwidth limited

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:46 PM

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charred pewter so an MX500 ...

Or m.2

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:46 PM

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yup... which is basically what im comparing too ... basically ANY ssd is gonna be a faster backup solution

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:46 PM

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MX500 is a pretty high-end SATA drive (high end for sata, mediocre compared to NVMe)

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:47 PM

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i dont need nvme ... i'd need new enclosures

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:47 PM

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Alright then, pre existing enclosure

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:47 PM

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yah, sata ... usb to sata, Sabrents

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:47 PM

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My almanac for anything SSD
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/htmlview#gid=0

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:50 PM

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so a "Crucial BX500 480GB" list price is $45 ... but a "Crucial MX500 500GB" list is $40 ....

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yeah that doesnt make any sense ... (but the BX500 is on sale for less

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:50 PM

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SATA prices are scuffed ever since NVMe became the new standard

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Also, check out 1tb. Could be quite similar in price

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:50 PM

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but the 1TB is 45.99 right now on sale .... the MX500

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:51 PM

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Called it

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:51 PM

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guess im getting that one ... not sure how long time machine will take to fill that up lol

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:51 PM

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Get 2tb then

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:51 PM

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lol

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:51 PM

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Or 4tb (if that even exists)

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:52 PM

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ive been backing up about 130gb for years ... well, it was about 100gb, but grew 30gb over the last two years

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so an extra $15 over the bx500 ... i'd get double the space, and dram ...

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 1:54 PM

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Pretty much

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 1:56 PM

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screw it ... placed order

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if its too much space, i'll find a use for it =p

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to be delivered in 3 hours ...

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amazon same day free shipping promo

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i guess there are some benefits to living pretty close to one of their big distribution centers

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 2:13 PM

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a + b = c
a/10 = b
a = ?c
b = ?c

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🤔

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a + a/10 = c
c = a.a

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25/45
100/4
1/(4*2*5+5)

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=
1/(1/0.25*1/0.5*1/0.2+1/0.2)
= 1/(1/0.025 + 1/0.2)

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= 0.025 x 0.2 / ( 0.025 + 0.2 )

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= 0.005 / 0.225

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= 5 / 225

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5/9 = 500 / (4x225)

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500/4 /225

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still need a straightforward calculation for /225

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x2 x10 /10
x5
x11 +int -int /2 x3
/3

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tired_jace

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:34 PM

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too much math

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 2:38 PM

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brainhutz

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 2:41 PM

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225=3^2⋅5^2
🤬

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still needs to divide 2 times by 3

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-50
-82/3
-27.33333/3
-9.111111111111x5
-45.5555555555555555

zenith sequoia Oct 29, 2023, 2:45 PM

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Ok lemme see. 3 rods squared times five rods squared…

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 2:48 PM

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this is not easy

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-50F = -45.5555555555C ?

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no easy way

jagged snow Oct 29, 2023, 2:50 PM

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wanton orchid no easy way

C to F: multiply by 1.8, add 32

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 2:50 PM

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jagged snow C to F: multiply by 1.8, add 32

why do you say that to me

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I know that, I even gave a easy trick to go from c to f

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I'm trying to find a easy trick to go from f to c, but I find no-one
double /3 is not easy

jagged snow Oct 29, 2023, 2:51 PM

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Oh sorry 😔

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I didn't read up far enough

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:51 PM

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f-32 then divide by 1.8

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if you don’t care about specifics divide by 2 then add a little

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 2:54 PM

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-45.55555555555555
-45.555555x2 = -91.111111111111 + 9.11111111111111 +32 = -82 +32 = -50

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 2:57 PM

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could also just go “hey siri what is #f to c”

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 3:07 PM

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dusk rivet f-32 then divide by 1.8

Divide by 1.8 = multiply by 5/9
x5 is easy
Divide by 9 is tricky, you basically gotta do long division in your head and remember that for 0<n<8 n/9 is 0.n repeating

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 3:09 PM

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i prefer the asking siri method

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 3:12 PM

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I wonder if you can do the .nnn part first
32746234/9
31
4
.444444 ?

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yes !!??
3 638 470.4444444444444444444444444

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because once you know that you can just remove 4 from it

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then do the calculation

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which will be easier

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32746234
3
5
3
7
4
6
9
4
0.444444444444
10
66.666666
444.444444444
7777.7777777777
33333.3333333333
555555.5555555555
3333333.33333333333333
something's wrong ??

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substract correctly ..

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I guess ?

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3888888.8888888888888
3922222.2222222222222
3929999.9999999999999
3930444.4444444444444
3930511.11111111111111111
3930521.55555555555555
VS
3638470.4444444444444444444444444

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there is error somewhere

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yes didnt subtract correctly

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smh

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I want to try writing a script to do the step correctly

edgy hazel Oct 29, 2023, 3:33 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/spam-stuart-stuartmadtv-stopspam-gif-25856288

Tenor

charred pewter Oct 29, 2023, 3:42 PM

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just went through 2 old tech graveyard drawers i had .... ended up tossing a digital camera, headphones, a thermometer and a book light ..... all because some IDIOT had left the AAA batteries in them

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they were a crusty corroded mess

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looked like i was growing Coral in the drawer

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 3:56 PM

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WTF

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in python
-55//10
return -6
what are they smoking

upper plinth Oct 29, 2023, 3:58 PM

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🐍

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 4:06 PM

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the """""explanation""""" :
"but 'b*(a//b)+a%b)' have to be true always !
and as -55%10 is 5 then it must be -6"

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except "-55%10" should be -5

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not 5

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and -5*10 + -5 is right -55

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that's fucked up

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I was holding myself to not say python is pure bullshit

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but I'm done, python is pure bullshit

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python is doing it like if it was a +infinity-55 /10

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retarded

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now I have to trick my calculations because they are not natural anymore

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 4:32 PM

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are you still trying to do f to c?

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 4:33 PM

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no I was trying to find a nice way to do /9
but my python script bullshited me by doing fucked up negative weighting

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so now I'm writing work around

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that fucking retardness

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which plague maths

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negative is negative mother fuckers

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if you weight it like on a positive weight scale, you just dont fucking understand what you are working with

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the weight of a negative number hold on top of it on a positive scale
not under it

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 5:15 PM

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wanton orchid yes !!?? 3 638 470.4444444444444444444444444

yes confirmed

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after more that 2 millions of iterations of :

def digitCompressor(number):
    fuck_your_ancients_pyshit = number < 0
    if fuck_your_ancients_pyshit:
        number = -number
    nextdigit = number //10
    modulus = number %10
    nextdigit = -nextdigit if fuck_your_ancients_pyshit else nextdigit
    modulus = -modulus if fuck_your_ancients_pyshit else modulus
    number = -number if fuck_your_ancients_pyshit else number
    result = digitCompressor(nextdigit)+modulus if nextdigit else number
    return digitCompressor(result) if nextdigit else result

import random as r
import os
r.seed(a=os.urandom(512),version=2)
i = 0
while True:
    number = r.getrandbits(50)
    result = digitCompressor(number)
    result = 0 if result == 9 else result
    e1 = digitCompressor(number - result)
    e1 = 0 if e1 == 9 else e1
    e2 = int((number/9-int(number/9))*10)
    print(result,e1,e2)
    if not e1 and e2 == result:
        i += 1
        print(i,number)
        continue
    break```

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still going on

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5 millions still running

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:D

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stopping at 10 000 000, my console is slowing the process, I will only print every 65536 now and remove calculation results

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    if not e1 and e2 == result:
        i += 1
        if not0 (i &0xFFFF):
            print(i,number)
        continue
    break```

upper plinth Oct 29, 2023, 5:27 PM

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funfact: in Python, concating the results to a single String, and then printing it at the end is way faster than just printing stuff when you get it.

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Print method is sooo slow in python it's scary lmao

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 5:30 PM

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now ! I'm using my cpu

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still running

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over 30millions tries

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no fail

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over 40 now

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ok stopping now

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now I know that digitCompressor ALWAYS gives the end .nnn pattern out

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 5:37 PM

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wanton orchid I wonder if you can do the .nnn part first 32746234/9 31 4 .444444 ?

just add all the digits in the number to find out the remainder: n mod 9 = chrosssum(n) mod 9

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I reckon that's what you're doing tho, just seemed random without explanation

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 5:39 PM

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wanton orchid retarded

I think it's coded so that the modulo operator always returns a natural number

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 5:39 PM

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dire igloo I reckon that's what you're doing tho, just seemed random without explanation

that's what I'm doing, but didnt know that it was the right thing, so I was testing it out
(I didnt want just do that, I was preparing the script for trying something else, but I just though I could test it easily over millions numbers)

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so I can know it's ok

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 5:40 PM

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It is mathematically correct

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 5:40 PM

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dire igloo I think it's coded so that the modulo operator always returns a natural number

but that is wrong to me

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 5:40 PM

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ask wolfram alpha

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 5:41 PM

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that's fucked up negative number floor shit

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 5:41 PM

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if it returns -6 as well, the definition of modulo is fucked

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 5:41 PM

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edgy hazel https://tenor.com/view/spam-stuart-stuartmadtv-stopspam-gif-25856288

good point

night girder Oct 29, 2023, 7:01 PM

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55/10 = -5.5

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so it becomes -6.

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I ran into some video a while back explaining, kinda forgot most of it tbh. But it has reasons.

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Best explanation I found, flooring divisions (floor/bottom) always go down.

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math.ceil(-55 /10) gives back -5 btw. Because if I read back, that's what you wanted to achieve. So if negative numbers, math.ceil() them. If possitive. round() em.

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:21 PM

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brought the price down a little, and added a 280mm rad

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/irohlikestea/saved/8XC7wP

Water Cooled Good PC - AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Radeon RX 7900 XT, NZXT...

Water Cooled Good PC - AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Radeon RX 7900 XT, NZXT H9 Flow ATX Mid Tower

zenith sequoia Oct 29, 2023, 7:25 PM

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There was a 13900k/4090 build on Facebook marketplace here the other day for $2800. Sadly, I already have a solid machine and don’t have money to burn on dumb stuff 😦

zenith sequoia Oct 29, 2023, 7:27 PM

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dusk rivet brought the price down a little, and added a 280mm rad

Fancy build. I’m jealous of your ram 😦

jagged snow Oct 29, 2023, 7:27 PM

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Antonline selling 5800x3d with full warranty for a good price still 🙂

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Just waiting on ups to get me my money

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:28 PM

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zenith sequoia Fancy build. I’m jealous of your ram 😦

64gbs is gonna be great

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might have to decrease the speed to get it to be stable tho

jagged snow Oct 29, 2023, 7:28 PM

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You went with four sticks?

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:28 PM

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oh no

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2x32

jagged snow Oct 29, 2023, 7:28 PM

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Then capacity has no effect on speed

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:28 PM

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i mean cause of the 7800x3d

jagged snow Oct 29, 2023, 7:28 PM

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Just depends if they're sr or dr sticks

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:29 PM

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heard a fair bit about 6200mhz ram being not super stable with am5

jagged snow Oct 29, 2023, 7:29 PM

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Ryzen 7k can do 6000 just fine though

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Just push the primaries a little lower instead

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6000 cl32 or something

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:29 PM

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oh i put in 6000mhz

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ye should be fine then

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gonna be one long build process

night girder Oct 29, 2023, 7:30 PM

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I am enjoying my build a lot lately.

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:30 PM

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triple rads is gonna be nice

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should let me run the fans at a lower speed for the same cooling so it’ll be quieter

jagged snow Oct 29, 2023, 7:31 PM

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Make sure you get a beefy pump if you plumb them in series

night girder Oct 29, 2023, 7:31 PM

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mine is not quiet 🤣

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:31 PM

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i’ll prolly stagger them

jagged snow Oct 29, 2023, 7:31 PM

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dusk rivet i’ll prolly stagger them

What is that supposed to mean

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:32 PM

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like gpu, rad, cpu, rad, pump, rad

jagged snow Oct 29, 2023, 7:32 PM

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Oh I see

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That has no bearing on what I said though

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:32 PM

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oh

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that’s a fair point actually

jagged snow Oct 29, 2023, 7:33 PM

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With a loop that long you might end up wanting to just throw two pumps in series for the best performance

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:33 PM

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I have this one on there
www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-kinetic-tbe-200-d5-body-d-rgb-acetal

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dual pumps might not fit with a 280mm rad

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might then have to downsize to a 240

night girder Oct 29, 2023, 7:34 PM

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Where you going to put your monitor?

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:34 PM

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night girder Where you going to put your monitor?

that is a great question

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maybe ontop of the gpu

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might take some playing to find a good spot for it

night girder Oct 29, 2023, 7:35 PM

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It seems pretty big

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:35 PM

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i’ll find somewhere for it

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could always put it between the pumps and the glass, not super thick

night girder Oct 29, 2023, 7:35 PM

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Yeah, maybe that picture isn't a good reference.

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I find also images of smaller ones.

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but if it's that small ... can you read the measurements🤣 Sorry. Go for it. You probably add it for aesthetics.

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:36 PM

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might wait to buy that once the rest of the build is done

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yeah it’s purely for aesthetics

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cyberpunk theme so screens fit in good

night girder Oct 29, 2023, 7:36 PM

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Ah gotcha 👌

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Try this? 😉

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:37 PM

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too much yellow imo

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going for a more purple/blue cyberpunk theme

night girder Oct 29, 2023, 7:37 PM

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Yeah agree. Still looks impressive.

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:37 PM

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not super heavily based on cyberpunk 2077

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definitely gonna add the occasional cyberpunk edgerunners emblem tho

night girder Oct 29, 2023, 7:38 PM

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neon themed? 😄

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:38 PM

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yep

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uv reactive coolant and cable mod cables

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plus a uv strip light

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though i’m not gonna turn the light on too much cause uv light and plastic doesn’t mix well

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will defo look cool when it’s on tho

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fair bit of rgb too

night girder Oct 29, 2023, 7:40 PM

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Have you seen the video of linus and Nerdforge?

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She is pretty amazing artist.

mental oriole Oct 29, 2023, 7:40 PM

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night girder It seems pretty big

But why...

night girder Oct 29, 2023, 7:40 PM

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Linus-Tech-Tips-x-Nerdforge-Custom-PC-1-630x630-3020614131.jpg

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That's a case, custom painted and all.

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:41 PM

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yeah that honestly inspired me to do a cyberpunk build

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holy i’d love to have something like that on my pc

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no way i have the artistic capability or perseverance to pull it off tho

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or the funds to pay someone to do it for me

mental oriole Oct 29, 2023, 7:41 PM

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Meanwhile, my pc hangs under my desk...

night girder Oct 29, 2023, 7:42 PM

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just hanging around

mental oriole Oct 29, 2023, 7:42 PM

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hehe

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 7:44 PM

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prolly gonna retrofit my current pc into a small form factor pc for college

night girder Oct 29, 2023, 7:44 PM

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giving my old one away

zenith sequoia Oct 29, 2023, 8:08 PM

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My pc doesn’t even have any RGB haha

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 8:47 PM

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dusk rivet https://pcpartpicker.com/user/irohlikestea/saved/8XC7wP

Not sure on that RAM, might be Micron instead of Hynix

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Also MP44L no longer worth it given A440 Pro is $95

#

Check out Thermaltake GF1 for the PSU

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 8:49 PM

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psu is kinda tentative anyways, mostly a placeholder, i'll pick the exact psu when i'm buying the parts

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 8:49 PM

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Then: where's the 280 gonna go and with which fans?
Why a sensor panel over just a regular dumb 7" LCD?

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And check out Thermalright S12-S

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 8:49 PM

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dire igloo Then: where's the 280 gonna go and with which fans? Why a sensor panel over just...

bottom with the pump, and i'm gonna get 140mm fans

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might have to scale back to a 240mm rad since dual pumps would be a good idea

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also that exact screen has a preset cyberpunk display iirc

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which is exactly what i want to display anyways

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 8:52 PM

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There's probably a ton of third party software out there which has similar presets

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 8:52 PM

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fair enough

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also why those thermalright fans over the ones i have rn?

dire igloo Oct 29, 2023, 8:55 PM

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rim lighting too

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purely aesthetic

dusk rivet Oct 29, 2023, 9:22 PM

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is there an equivalent 140mm fan?

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 9:47 PM

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night girder I ran into some video a while back explaining, kinda forgot most of it tbh. But ...

that's why it's fucked, if you want to floor the division then juste write floor(-55/10)
the usefulness of a \\ operator is for doing integer division
python does not do that
and it's lame,
it likes it was looking at it's neighboors languages and was wrongly copying

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also remember they dont want -- or ++ because that's double an already used operator and it is overloading the use and visual of it
: // **
Oh WAIT

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 10:04 PM

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wait how old is this sticker im kinda curious

narrow folio Oct 29, 2023, 10:21 PM

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reminds me of the 80486 days... so, kinda old

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I only remember blue stickers, but the logo itself in this form was around the early '90

pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 10:34 PM

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yea last time i used this pc was in 2016 so idk

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i dont even know whats in it

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and i doubt im gonna figure that out anytime soon lol

wanton orchid Oct 29, 2023, 10:43 PM

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pure karma Oct 29, 2023, 11:35 PM

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guess im not sending in my homework XD

languid gulch Oct 30, 2023, 1:08 AM

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i went thru an old pile of tech & found a 3.5" drive

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with an IDE connector

jagged snow Oct 30, 2023, 1:17 AM

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Oh yeah, I have some old ide stuff lying around, also a couple pci(non-e) devices

stray badger Oct 30, 2023, 3:31 AM

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pure karma guess im not sending in my homework XD

compress it in handbrake

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if i was ur teacher i would be pissed if i got a submission that was over half a gig

winged valley Oct 30, 2023, 4:40 AM

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Board level repair is very fun

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 5:35 AM

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charred pewter but the 1TB is 45.99 right now on sale .... the MX500

~~Because BX500 is still in production, MX500 isn't AFAIK.~~
Just old stock still being sold for MX500 in US, and nowhere else.

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No, that was wrong.

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Ah, it is the same at Crucials own shop, the 1TB BX500 is more expensive than 1TB MX500.
But for all the other sizes it is the other way around.

edgy hazel Oct 30, 2023, 10:07 AM

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CS2 is brutal to my PC. I need a new CPU

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 10:14 AM

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stray badger if i was ur teacher i would be pissed if i got a submission that was over half a...

its 7 gb so derp

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and it was 35 before compression

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 10:16 AM

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So multiple hours long, or way too light compression?

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 10:17 AM

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12 minutes long just seems to have very few compresion points

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seems quite unspace efficient

edgy hazel Oct 30, 2023, 10:17 AM

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Yes very unspace efficient

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 10:18 AM

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So re-export it with better compression?
Or re-encode?

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 10:18 AM

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to be faire i have done worst

edgy hazel Oct 30, 2023, 10:19 AM

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To be fair you'll fail your assignment

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Compress it properly dude

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 10:19 AM

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i wonder if i can send it in a private conversation cuz i have defedently sent gigabyte stuff in private conversations

edgy hazel Oct 30, 2023, 10:20 AM

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Ah is this one of these troll issues

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 10:20 AM

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well no the limit is very inconvinient

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 10:20 AM

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Starts to seem like it.

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 10:21 AM

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i can probably get around it but id rather not

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 10:21 AM

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pure karma well no the limit is very inconvinient

That you actually have to do some work to set the compression right?

edgy hazel Oct 30, 2023, 10:21 AM

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Where you have a problem and instead of accepting help or interact with any responses to it you just keep rambling on?

sterile plinth Oct 30, 2023, 12:49 PM

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guys how is this type of triangulation called?

#

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so you have a target, and the only thing you know about the target is its distance from the points A,B and C

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I searched triangulation code in youtube but it showed different types

jagged snow Oct 30, 2023, 12:51 PM

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That's just normal triangulation...

edgy hazel Oct 30, 2023, 12:55 PM

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Yeah lmao

dire igloo Oct 30, 2023, 1:46 PM

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Yup, that's just called triangulation

#

Maybe there's some more specific wording like "three point triangulation", but I have absolutely no idea

stray badger Oct 30, 2023, 2:05 PM

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2 dimensional triangulation?

edgy hazel Oct 30, 2023, 2:08 PM

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That's

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No

tough owl Oct 30, 2023, 3:16 PM

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wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-7900-gre-gpu-diy-availability-europe-prices-starting-at-e720/

edgy hazel Oct 30, 2023, 3:19 PM

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don't need that. Have something better, but you can't see it in my name as previously because people keep being a dick about me trying to flex my irresponsible purchase

wanton orchid Oct 30, 2023, 4:00 PM

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triangulation
is when you want to know the points thanks to .. drawing triangle and draw triangle with 3 points obviously

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the first triangle you know are a b c sensors/radars/whatever
then you can draw lines from it by using triangle properties

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you know
ab
you know
az
bz
so you can draw the
abz
triangle
and then you know direction and increase accuracy thanks to the other points

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it's fairly simple

glass panther Oct 30, 2023, 4:05 PM

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if I'm getting a passive 1 to 2 xlr switch, what do I do about phantom power?

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 4:09 PM

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In what way?
You need one output where there isn't power, and one where there is?

glass panther Oct 30, 2023, 4:09 PM

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shitty diagram:

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 4:10 PM

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Ah, sorry, push-button switch.

glass panther Oct 30, 2023, 4:10 PM

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like if I stick phantom power on both is it gonna go kaboom?

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 4:10 PM

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Depends on the switch.

glass panther Oct 30, 2023, 4:10 PM

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twin dew Ah, sorry, push-button switch.

it has a mixer option for spitting it out to both

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 4:10 PM

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Probably not, but could be implemented in a way that would cause issue.

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But if that is used as input from the M to the PCs, then just disable the phantom power output?

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If the switch doesn't need it.

dire igloo Oct 30, 2023, 4:11 PM

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why not a simple USB KVM?

glass panther Oct 30, 2023, 4:12 PM

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twin dew But if that is used as input from the M to the PCs, then just disable the phanto...

p.s. the M is the mic 😛

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 4:12 PM

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dire igloo why not a simple USB KVM?

Audio.

glass panther Oct 30, 2023, 4:12 PM

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dire igloo why not a simple USB KVM?

didle doop / diddle ding as usb devices get disconnected / reconnected

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 4:13 PM

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Good ones can keep the audio device "visible" to the disconnected computer too.

glass panther Oct 30, 2023, 4:13 PM

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basically I wanna be able to use my personal streaming mic with my second pc that doesn't get streamed from so it doesn't sound like ass in voice chat

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 4:14 PM

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But with two phantom power feeding USB DACs, depends completely on the switch.

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Impossible to say without seeing circuit diagram or measuring.

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With multimeter.

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 4:28 PM

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@jagged snow ... UPS ... apple is sending my $3k laptop back to me using UPS .... 🙀

jagged snow Oct 30, 2023, 4:28 PM

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Oh boy

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Good luck

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 4:29 PM

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if the laptop is still broken, i dont think ups could do worse LOL

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i'll see UPS walking up with a box like

narrow folio Oct 30, 2023, 4:44 PM

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glass panther shitty diagram:

maybe a small mixer instead of a switch? Split the output of the mixer with a y cable and go to the interfaces

jagged snow Oct 30, 2023, 4:44 PM

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Oh, I didn't see that convo

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@glass panther my suggestion for phantom power would be to get an inline injetor after the switch

glass panther Oct 30, 2023, 4:45 PM

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narrow folio maybe a small mixer instead of a switch? Split the output of the mixer with a y ...

I suppose the alternative is to take the RCA outputs and use the "direct" button

jagged snow Oct 30, 2023, 4:45 PM

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That way you don't have to worry about competative oscillations from teh supplies

glass panther Oct 30, 2023, 4:46 PM

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glass panther I suppose the alternative is to take the RCA outputs and use the "direct" button

jagged snow Oct 30, 2023, 4:47 PM

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Something like this:
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PS400--behringer-micropower-ps400-phantom-power-supply

glass panther Oct 30, 2023, 4:47 PM

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I think I'll cancel the switch order and just see how it goes manually moving the mic cable

jagged snow Oct 30, 2023, 4:47 PM

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glass panther I think I'll cancel the switch order and just see how it goes manually moving th...

That's a possibility, just be warned that xlr isn't the most durable connector and isn't really designed for frequent reconnection

narrow folio Oct 30, 2023, 4:48 PM

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www.thomann.de/intl/art_splitcompro.htm?shp=eyJjb3VudHJ5IjoiZ2IiLCJjdXJyZW5jeSI6NywibGFuZ3VhZ2UiOjJ9&reload=1&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqP2pBhDMARIsAJQ0Czot-3FSgksNYhv0CueJ1zLqD79ybfUzpOayMsntXtVkL_MyplUwMacaAqtbEALw_wcB

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XLR mic splitter

narrow folio Oct 30, 2023, 4:49 PM

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jagged snow That's a possibility, just be warned that xlr isn't the most durable connector a...

Thousands of reconnections are no problem with good quality connectors

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 4:50 PM

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But that specific thing seems to be for something different.

jagged snow Oct 30, 2023, 4:51 PM

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narrow folio Thousands of reconnections are no problem with good quality connectors

I've run into issues with holding power on clipless connectors but otherwise you're probably right

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 4:51 PM

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But the Thomann descriptions are so often complete crap so cannot be certain.

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Because the important stuff would happen in that "Signal combining and ground isolation network" that is just black box and isn't really told anywhere what it actually does.

glass panther Oct 30, 2023, 4:55 PM

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double-checked, it's dual 1/4" not RCA outputs

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it's RCA for the old usb device

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 5:24 PM

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ive got a drawer full of rca cables of all kinds of shapes sizes splits lengths

#

minijack cables, yibberpibber cables ...

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a couple kvms

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well ... no not kvm... just switch boxes

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what i dont seem to have is powered splitters

narrow folio Oct 30, 2023, 6:39 PM

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glass panther

I'm happy with my Mackie VLZ4 802 mixer. sums the output of 3 PC and sends a mic to two PC. every level is quick to adjust

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 6:45 PM

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I would have never thought a laptop with an i5 with irisx integrated graphics would run satisfactory at 40 fps lmao

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At like high settings

sharp oasis Oct 30, 2023, 7:10 PM

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apparently my hardware combo is overkill for beamng

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1440p 100fps at ultra

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:16 PM

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so today im like "I wonder if there is a magic key-combo to drag an alias from one folder to another, and instead of copying the alias itself, it copies the original file it points too" .... turns out someone asked the exact same question on overflow ... but there is no such feature 😦

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:16 PM

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ctrl + shift + drag

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:17 PM

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(on a macos)

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:17 PM

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option + command drag no?

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its supose to copy the shortcut, if it doesn't thats a bug in macos

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:18 PM

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although, ctrl-shift-drag isnt working in windows11 for me...

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its just duplicating the shortcut

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on macos, holding option just duplicates the alias

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:18 PM

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option and command key, not just option

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:18 PM

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was hoping there was like "shift-option-drag" would drop a copy of the original file

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:19 PM

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o copy the original, ya i dunno about that, you could write your own auto script for it though pretty quickly

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:19 PM

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lol, option-command-dragdrop ... makes an alias to the alias 😄

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right.

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:20 PM

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what about copy the shortcut and paste with the option key help down?

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:20 PM

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i am in a temporary flux where im keeping aliases to all kinds of random 'changed' files on my drive, so i know which ones to copy over to another computer (when i get it back from the shop) ...... and was wondering if there was a simple way to just drag-copy the originals of them all

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:20 PM

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command + c then command + option + v

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maybe try using color coding instead?

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:21 PM

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cmd-v or cmd-opt-v is just pasting a new alias

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:21 PM

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ya, looks like your SOfL

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:22 PM

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ive got a bunch of OTHER color coding going on for things like 'in progress' and 'buggy as fuck' etc... so i cant really adjust

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:22 PM

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sorry, maybe try making your own shortcut with it using power automate or whatever

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:22 PM

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yeah ....

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:22 PM

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gotcha, one thing i learned recently was mklink on windows which is ill

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:22 PM

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just gonna have to use the folder of aliases as a 'reference' ... then just manually copy from there. I cant really use RSYNC for this, because the destination mac is WAY different than the source im working on right now

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:24 PM

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was trying to figure out how to use shortcuts to symbol link factory game into my one drive. i think there is an equilivant on mac, but again nothing simple like a drag and drop. you could also write a short sh file to rsync your files you want to copy over that might work easier, then just double click on the script file?

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maybe github desktop or something light weight?

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:24 PM

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eeyyyyyaaahhh .... that sounds a bit complicated 😄

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:24 PM

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ya,

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:25 PM

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as it stands im going to have to navigate to each folder to drop it in anyways ...

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:25 PM

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i know exactly the workflow your trying to simplify i have battled this before

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ugh,,,

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:25 PM

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NORMALLY i just run rsync of my documents/projects and it just syncs it all. but, the new mac i had re-orged a lot and changed many things

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:25 PM

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maybe have the file managed by your idrive? thats what i do to get around this

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:26 PM

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and since i cant access my new macs new re-org BACK to this older mac to work from (new mac died on me before i could run a backup) ... im stuck in this fricken limbo

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:26 PM

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awwh, ya im literary just finishing up exactly what your doing on my laptop too. too two months and 500GB backup later

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:26 PM

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and then chances are, when i get it back, its going to be wiped anyways and im just gonna have to start from scratch setting stuff up LOL

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i have like a superduper backup of the entire drive a day before it bricked .... which i can possibly restore too.... but thats why i have this pile of 'changes since then on the older mac' that i need to migrate in after the restore

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:27 PM

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what i ended up doing was just making a bunch of hard symbolic links which get data scrapped by my backup routines, and they get funneled into the correct folders, and my hope is when i get this process down i can format and pull down the new reorg dirs

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:27 PM

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yes, its all a mess 😄

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:27 PM

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ugh, ya no nice way around that.

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well best of luck frig, i wish i had some voodoo fix for ya, looks like grug work for you

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:28 PM

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😄

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one thing im annoyed with, is i had rebuilt a handful of Automators the day of the bricking ...... which i have NO backup of ... meaning i have to REBUILD THEM ALL OVER AGAIN

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:29 PM

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i had bought one of those fancy sandisk extremes for backup, and that was poo. lost one of my redundancies, never will buy sandisk again

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:29 PM

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yeah, ive had bad luck with sandisk

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:29 PM

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ooo thats the worse, sorry for your loss

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they apparently recalled, im made cuz i paid 400 for the drive, it wasx trash, luckily im paranoid and make backups of backups of backups.

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i dont know if you use winrar, but that has some tools in there for doing what your trying to do with backups, might have a look into that

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:31 PM

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its really bad because the automators used PHP scripts... and since the new macos i had to brew install php (which is a newer version) so all the old php scripts were crashing n burning, so i had changed a bunch of code in them to work with the brew version.... doh!

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:31 PM

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oo000 what a nightmare

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:32 PM

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my biggest issue is that i had NOT been running TimeMachine .... i had given up on it and didnt set it up

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so i was just doing a nightly scheduld superduper smart update

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:32 PM

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i had to turn off my timemachine on my dev machine with node, just could;t handle the millions of files

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:32 PM

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yup, TM tends to crap itself after awhile

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:32 PM

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like by the time its done indexing it has to index again, stuck in a time loop

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:33 PM

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hind sight is i shoulda been running it due to 'a new machine' ... long enough to know if the machine is going to be solid.

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:33 PM

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not that one drive is much better, took me three months to backup my game dev stuff. so annoying

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:33 PM

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oof

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i do "Macrium Reflect" for my PCs to a couple raid drives daily ... its really fast, does incremental backups of changes

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keeps a full bootable, then some incrementals from that, then updates the full bootable at weekly intervals

cobalt ivy Oct 30, 2023, 7:34 PM

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ill have a look into that thank you

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 7:35 PM

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i bought a license for my game rig, so i can do the quicker more smart and space concious backups ....

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but for my HTPC i just have the freebie doing a system restore copy (which is pretty small)

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 7:50 PM

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I plan to upgrade from a not so good laptop to an actual PC (I'm building it) I was thinking about going 3090 since 40 series is to much. Is that good for most games or should I upgrade/downgrade?

upper plinth Oct 30, 2023, 7:53 PM

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I would just go with RTX 40 series already for a new build. 4070 Ti from what I know already outperforms 3090 a bit, and has additionally DLSS 3, what 30 Series do not have.

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I would also think about good CPU, GPU is not everything those days 😅

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4070 is also pretty good, and costs a lot less than TI version, I would say that is more worth than 3090 those days.
No idea about the CPUs tho, didn't look at new Ryzen vs Intel stuff, still stuck in AM4 socket jacelul

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 7:59 PM

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yea 4070ti is the same as the 3090 just whit less vram but it benefits from 40 series options

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 7:59 PM

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Yea, I was thinking about ryzen 7 7700x for cpu

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 8:01 PM

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yea that seems mostly fine for a 4070Ti

upper plinth Oct 30, 2023, 8:01 PM

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I would say that should be fineeee, but should also wait for others opinions as like I said, I'm outdated on CPU realm 😅

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:01 PM

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And is it worth going to 36 gigs of ram or should I stick with 16 ddr5

upper plinth Oct 30, 2023, 8:01 PM

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Depends on your needs, also 36 👀?

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 8:01 PM

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ok core count but for gaming speed is better over core count and it has plenty of speed

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:02 PM

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32 my bad

upper plinth Oct 30, 2023, 8:02 PM

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But yea, depends completley on your needs, 16 should be enough, but might be worth going to 32 if you are planning on playing heavy ram dependent games, or hosting some servers etc

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 8:02 PM

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32Gb of DDR5

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:03 PM

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Yea I'll just upgrade later if needed

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 8:03 PM

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cuz that cpu isent ddr4 compatible

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or atleast isent listed to be

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 8:04 PM

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8GB DDR5 sticks are horrible, never buy one.
They use x16 chips instead of x8.

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 8:04 PM

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32gb is 'safer' to have ... less chance of possibly running out in games

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:04 PM

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My bad I'm going 7 7800x3d for cpu

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To get ddr5

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 8:05 PM

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And 32GB is the minimum you can get with DDR5 without tanking the actual RAM performance.

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:05 PM

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Or 4

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 8:05 PM

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With 2x 16GB sticks.

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:05 PM

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Oh ok

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Thx

upper plinth Oct 30, 2023, 8:05 PM

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twin dew And 32GB is the minimum you can get with DDR5 without tanking the actual RAM per...

Already new info I don't know because I'm stuck in AM4 and DDR4 CPU Era jacelul Thanks for teaching me new stuff

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 8:05 PM

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32 and 64 seem to be the safe spot now which is kinda crazy

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 8:05 PM

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As there aren't any 8Gb DDR5 chips, just 16Gb as minimum.
So 16GB stick is smallest you can do with x8 chips.

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And x16 chips have half the bank groups compared to x8 chips. Causing worse real performance.

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:07 PM

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Oh that would suck yea I'm just gonna stick with 32 then

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 8:07 PM

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Basically the same actual performance difference between 2x1R vs 2x2R with DDR4.
Which is 1-10% in most applications.

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 8:08 PM

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i still find the fact that i often get up to the like mid to high 20's in ram usage under just everyday tasks quite crazy

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crazy to think that like 6 years ago having like 16GB of 3200MHZ DDR4 would have been cosidered insanity

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 8:11 PM

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My current computer has had 16GB of DDR3 since it was new, 10 years ago.

maiden coyote Oct 30, 2023, 8:11 PM

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just for chrome and windows 8GB is the minimum now

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 8:11 PM

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i run chrome on 4 just need a decent cpu

upper plinth Oct 30, 2023, 8:12 PM

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I run W10 with Firefox and few other small apps on my old laptop with 6 gigs of DDR3. So it's not that bad yet

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:12 PM

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This is what I get currently

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Fps wise

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Not great but playable

maiden coyote Oct 30, 2023, 8:13 PM

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I don't think so, but if it works for you. my experience was windows used 2-3 with nothing open. and chrome needed another 2 for just youtube.

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 8:13 PM

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i checked the system i was ussing in 2016 it was running a single 2400MHZ 16Gb stick of DDR4

maiden coyote Oct 30, 2023, 8:13 PM

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so with only 4gb the system was reduced to a crawl..

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 8:13 PM

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twin dew My current computer has had 16GB of DDR3 since it was new, 10 years ago.

@ 2000MT/s.

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 8:14 PM

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i have 8Gb of like 800MHZ DDR2 somewhere

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i dont remember where i shoved it but the sticks still work lol

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:15 PM

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maiden coyote Oct 30, 2023, 8:15 PM

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meanwhile.. I want a bigger server with a faster cpu, and 64gb of memory for homelab reasons and the SO is like no..

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 8:15 PM

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visual lake

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:16 PM

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6400 MHZ?????!!!!

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 8:16 PM

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i just got the 32 ... ddr5

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:16 PM

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I wish

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 8:16 PM

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for my game rig ... that is ...

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 8:16 PM

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yea 32GB of 6400MHZ DDR5

upper plinth Oct 30, 2023, 8:16 PM

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4x8 3200mhz DDR4 :P I'm really thinking about just yeeting that and buying 4x16, but I have no idea if it's worth it :P

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 8:16 PM

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my macs are min 64gb

maiden coyote Oct 30, 2023, 8:16 PM

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pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 8:16 PM

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fastest ddr5 can go rn isent it?

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 8:16 PM

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Well, MT/s, not MHz.
Windows uses wrong unit.

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:16 PM

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I'm 3200 as well

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 8:17 PM

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Because no way you have 12800 MT/s DDR5.

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 8:17 PM

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twin dew Well, MT/s, not MHz. Windows uses wrong unit.

yea i have learn that by this point just mhz is honestly simpler

upper plinth Oct 30, 2023, 8:17 PM

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twin dew Well, MT/s, not MHz. Windows uses wrong unit.

Well advertised as 3200mhz jacelul Yea its 1600mhz in real life :P (Also just realised you were talking about DDR5 6400mt/s lol)

maiden coyote Oct 30, 2023, 8:17 PM

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I've got le potato 2133 mt/s lol

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 8:17 PM

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yea so technically my ram is only 3200MHz and instead 6400MT/s

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:17 PM

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I've been thinking of an egpu but idk

edgy hazel Oct 30, 2023, 8:17 PM

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DDR4 3000

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:17 PM

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Since ram is pretty good rn

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 8:17 PM

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eGpu?

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:18 PM

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External gpu

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 8:18 PM

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thats a thing?

maiden coyote Oct 30, 2023, 8:18 PM

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with thunderbolt, yes

edgy hazel Oct 30, 2023, 8:18 PM

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For laptops yes

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:18 PM

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Yea it connects with thunder bokt

upper plinth Oct 30, 2023, 8:18 PM

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Yea... a bit cursed and mostly for hella compact builts or laptops.

charred pewter Oct 30, 2023, 8:18 PM

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ah... huh... interesting

maiden coyote Oct 30, 2023, 8:18 PM

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usb4 should support it too.

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 8:18 PM

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charred pewter thats a thing?

With Thunderbolt for some laptops.
Not all have support for it enabled even if they have Thunderbolt.

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:18 PM

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But by time I get that I would want to upgrade that

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 8:18 PM

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Limits performance somewhat from the slower bus.

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:18 PM

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Yea

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Woah looking at the sky gets me at 60 fps lmao

maiden coyote Oct 30, 2023, 8:19 PM

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they should just start putting 100G SFP+ ports on laptops and desktops

visual lake Oct 30, 2023, 8:19 PM

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Fr

edgy hazel Oct 30, 2023, 8:20 PM

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maiden coyote they should just start putting 100G SFP+ ports on laptops and desktops

Lmao imagine

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 8:20 PM

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Also coming now in form of PCIe 4x SFF-8643 instead of thunderbolt or like.

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The Asus Ally has that IIRC for example.

pure karma Oct 30, 2023, 8:20 PM

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i mean if there any better than iGPU's then its an upgrade either way

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 8:21 PM

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No, wrong standard version?

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Ah, sorry, Oculink.

visual tree Oct 30, 2023, 8:21 PM

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maiden coyote they should just start putting 100G SFP+ ports on laptops and desktops

Too late, already pulled CAT6 cables inside wall conduits hehe

maiden coyote Oct 30, 2023, 8:22 PM

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You can tie a fiber to the end of the cat6 and yank it out :p

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unless you didn't actually run conduit. then.. get a hammer and bust out the wall

visual tree Oct 30, 2023, 8:26 PM

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I can replace cables with fiber without any issues. However, I think CAT6 is going to be more than enough for the next 10 years

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Unless we advance so fast CAT6 is going to be obsolete in 5 years

twin dew Oct 30, 2023, 8:27 PM

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By the speed of over 1Gb/s Ethernet adaptation so far, not likely.

maiden coyote Oct 30, 2023, 8:28 PM

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unless you start doing something like setting up a bunch of poe 4k cameras around your house

visual tree Oct 30, 2023, 8:32 PM

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Assuming each 4k camera uses around 8 Mbit/s, you shouldn't worry about it

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Unless you are running a museum with 50 cameras hehe

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Correction: even 50 cameras is a total of 400 mbit/s only

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And you can use rest of the bandwidth for everything else

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Tried cctv bandwidth calculator

timber gyro Oct 30, 2023, 10:23 PM

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Depending on your house size, you will most likely have no problems scaling to 10Gbit and beyond with Cat6 cable. Most residential cable length here in NL doesnt even exceed 25 meters where standard Cat6 is rated 10Gbit up to 55 meters.

maiden coyote Oct 31, 2023, 4:54 AM

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wellshit..

maiden coyote Oct 31, 2023, 5:15 AM

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alright, apparently hyper-v shits the bed when it can't provide a memory buffer.

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dynamic memory = bad

sand saddle Oct 31, 2023, 6:21 AM

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pure karma fastest ddr5 can go rn isent it?

8000+

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With a great mobo, cpu and overclocker

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And by cpu I mostly mean the IMC(integrated memory controller)

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And ofc active cooling on the ram

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With XMP I'd say 6400-6800 with 13th gen and your average mobo or 6800-7200 with a 2 dimmer

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 6:28 AM

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maiden coyote they should just start putting 100G SFP+ ports on laptops and desktops

pcie 5 x4 is 126Gb

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and have lower latency

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sfp is suited for greater range
not for greater value nor latency

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and yes some data center use pcie risers for interconnect instead of sfp for small range

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that's how you build supercomputers

solemn iris Oct 31, 2023, 7:30 AM

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Aight a bit of background: my time is governed by school, and i also have some problems, so I can’t really get ready for everything, and now I’m asking someone to check my code for “divide and conquer” method. I made it quickly, and the code is in Polish, but I still need help so (also, don’t care about output messages, just the inner algorithm, and does it resemble divide and conquer)

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If you want to help, send it on priv (I don’t have nitro and code is somehow restricted by server)

edgy hazel Oct 31, 2023, 8:17 AM

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Who the fuck out here coding in polish

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Bro wrote that code in Ć#

pure karma Oct 31, 2023, 10:02 AM

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sand saddle 8000+

well i meant whitout profesional clocking and by just simply turning on xmp like a normal person

sand saddle Oct 31, 2023, 10:03 AM

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sand saddle With XMP I'd say 6400-6800 with 13th gen and your average mobo or 6800-7200 with...

.

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:03 AM

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And that is for Hynix A-die only, or the new 24Gb M-die.

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For 16Gb M-die too if you use insane voltages.

sand saddle Oct 31, 2023, 10:04 AM

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Yes

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:05 AM

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Any Micron or Samsung is much less, even the 24Gb Micron dies IIRC.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:09 AM

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img_2560x1440_3x8bit_RGB_color_bars_CMYKWRGB_gradient.png

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:10 AM

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Yes? Standard color bars.
Which you cannot use for much than to check there isn't banding.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:12 AM

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you can use it to check you can differentiate scales

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up to in the blacks

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correctly

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:12 AM

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Not really, you get too large steps if you use that.
Which leads to what you have.

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There are specific test images for that kind of thing.
Where you have two different shades one around the other.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:13 AM

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twin dew Not really, you get too large steps if you use that. Which leads to what you hav...

"test confirming my preset also give me differentiate black leads to me not differentiating blacks" 👏

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:14 AM

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Because the shade changes are supposed to be almost impercebtible in the black end.

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:14 AM

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wanton orchid "test confirming my preset also give me differentiate black leads to me not diff...

It leads to too big differences.

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If you try to do it with that pic.

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Which leads to washed out blacks in use.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:15 AM

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I didnt said I have washed blacks, I said I have clogged blacks, which means I'm loosing info, not that the info lack expressiveness

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what I wanted to say is that in satisfactory I'm loosing stuff in pure black shadows

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:16 AM

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www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:16 AM

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and it looks like either a issue or at least not comfortable

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:16 AM

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Ok, starting to be understandable. And might be just tuning thing, or intentional.
Or just your problem.

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You would need to have a screenshot and point the areas where that happens.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:18 AM

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I see every single squares differently

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:18 AM

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Yes, but pasting screenshot here doesn't tell anything.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:19 AM

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now you see in calibration perspective it is going 'too much in the red' way sometimes, and it's not good calibration, but for expression purpose it works fine

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:19 AM

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I asked for Satisfactory ingame screenshot with the problem points where the differences are missing.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:20 AM

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yes that's a good idea

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I will do that

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:20 AM

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twin dew Yes, but pasting screenshot here doesn't tell anything.

it just shows what I'm talking about, why do you have to think I try to say other thing that what I'm just pointing out

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that screenshot does not make coffe either but I never told you that

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:21 AM

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But there is a reason why I have bough colorimeter and cheap spectrophotometer.
Second isn't needed for most SRGB color scale monitors if they have CCFL or WLED backlights.
Because most use the same spectrum profile that has generic profiles available.
But needed for wide gamut and different backlight techs already.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:23 AM

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I just focus on every pixels values to show differently in my eyes, and be consistent as to the logarithmic scale, I dont focus on color accuracy because that is just completly wrong when the screen die is not capable of pulling all of these
it's not from nothing calibrated professional monitors with full scales are so expensive

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I want a more green to be more green, I want a more red to be more red, I want a more blue to be more blue, a more black to be more black, even if these are not very accurate as to the standard spectrum values

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:25 AM

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And if what tune you end up is too far from the actual sRGB spec, then you get issues in actual usage.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:25 AM

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I dont want mid colors to be flashy, grey to be white or black, and every other values to fades out of my eyes because then the screen filter is retarded

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:25 AM

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And sRGB spec does very strange things at the black end.

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Because of how CRTs worked.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:26 AM

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because that is usual base settings for "GaMiNg" monitors unfortunately, even if they are good ips

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:26 AM

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twin dew And sRGB spec does very strange things at the black end.

that is interesting

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that ofcourse I'm not expert and could be wrong with these

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here you just really added something to the conv

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:28 AM

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The standard further defines a nonlinear electro-optical transfer function (EOTF), which exactly defines the conversion from image data to output intensity. This curve is a slight tweaking of x2.2.[5] A linear section is near zero, in order to avoid an infinite or zero slope that power law has, this is spliced to a curved section designed so the overall function is very close. In order to do this a formula using a higher exponent (2.4 in this case) is necessary. The instantaneous gamma (the slope when plotted on a log:log scale) varies from 1 in the linear section to 2.4 at maximum intensity, with a median value being close to 2.2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRGB

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Hack for CRTs.

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But still there for backwards compatibility.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:30 AM

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if I get it right it means blacks are a bit more different right ?

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:30 AM

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Actual result depends on how the specific LCD emulates that, or if it doesn't etc.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:32 AM

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does it even matter in not so accurate 8bit rgb monitor though ?

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probably falls inside that right ?

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:33 AM

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And for example my current monitor calibration isn't to sRGB tone curve, but to REC. 1886 Absolute Gamma 2.4 curve.
Need to test against sRGB and REC 1886 2.2 at next recalibration I need to do soon.
Because had to replace one monitor and it is just horrible right now.
But haven't bothered yet because it only shows text most of the time with black background, so the horrible off-white doesn't matter.

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So that could have affected my screenshots in the black end for the game.

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Not sure if the rejigging against the ICC file is done before or after whatever step in the graphics pipeline the screenshot is taken at.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:36 AM

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I hope it's after otherwise it is loosing values

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:41 AM

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But for example in this case, to show RGB 5, 5, 5, the GPU tells the monitor to output 8.93, 9.02, 8.79 (8bit+AFRC monitor with 10bit input signal).
Because my wanted curve at the black end is different from the monitors native one.

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Part because I set the 0,0,0 to be same brightness for all three monitors, based on the "worst" one.
So 120cd/m^2 max brightness, 0.01 cd/m^2 minimum brightness for all three.

dire igloo Oct 31, 2023, 10:46 AM

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Fuckheads
https://twitter.com/stats_feed/status/1719297258569830824

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:48 AM

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And not sure what is wrong, because I certainly don't have 12000:1 contrast ratio, should be about that 1200:1?

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Cannot be bothered to connect the colorimeter to check what is going on and what the actual current minimum brightness is.

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So probably wrong formula, but cannot find the right one.
Because that off by factor of ten seems like that.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:51 AM

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btw all that, that's because I'm always working with minimum brightness that I would want to VESA True Black hdr monitor
basically pulling a very high dynamic range but shifted in the black, maybe because I have sensitive eyes (I were sunglasses a lot) and use it in low brightness environments

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:52 AM

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I need to lower those from 120 to 100 in next calibration.
Upper ones are at 80 right now.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:52 AM

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I always find screens too flashy and lacking in the black

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:52 AM

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Default for most monitors is in 200-300 range.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:52 AM

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for me

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:53 AM

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That 120 for the rightmost bottom monitor is brightness of 14 in monitor settings.
After the custom color changes that also lowered it.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:53 AM

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I want the max to be my thunderbolt like and every other value to be nice
and that's what hdr true black are aiming for

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:53 AM

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To get the white point correct to 6500.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:53 AM

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and I fucking like that

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:54 AM

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twin dew But for example in this case, to show RGB 5, 5, 5, the GPU tells the monitor to ...

is that a laptop screen ?

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maybe it's because of that it hit so low

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:55 AM

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No, Lenovo G27-20 IPS monitor, so 27" LG Nano-IPS with 1920x1080@144Hz.

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Just compensating for the sRGB thing with different tone/gamma curve.

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So spec is 1000:1 static contrast, real in those is between 800:1 and 1300:1 depending on backlight brighness and luck.

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So 1200:1 would be realistic.

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For contrast ratio.

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So the monitor is in that specific case told to output brighter grey than it would without the calibration.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:58 AM

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my monitor is rated sRGB 100% apparently

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 10:58 AM

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And then at mid-range it is told to output less than it would natively.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 10:59 AM

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1000:1 350cd/m2 but is fucked in maximum brightness (but even 250cd/m2 is too high for me apparently)

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:00 AM

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In theory 100% sRGB, but in reality more in greens and reds, less in blue.

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Very common that the actual gamut doesn't hit the spec gamut, but is offset in some direction.
Just covering same volume.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:01 AM

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twin dew Very common that the actual gamut doesn't hit the spec gamut, but is offset in s...

and that's were I was saying that it does not matter to me for the type of thing we were talking about, as shifted gamut still means bare details are here even if they are not consistent from monitor to monitor or monitor to real life colors

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www.panelook.com/M270Q008+V0_AUO_27.0_LCM_overview_41810.html

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32bit panel so

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:10 AM

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8 bit per channel only, not 10 bit per channel.
The fourth channel doesn't really do anything?
So referring to it as 32bit panel doesn't really mean anything.
The per channel bit depth is what matters.

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Last might be for backlight brightness control?

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:11 AM

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it means the bare value adjustments can be a bit over the bare pixels scales

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for just brighness values

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so it gives a bit more room

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:11 AM

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No?
Because that is just global control that your brightness control sets.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:11 AM

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but yea it's not a professional screen

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:11 AM

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If it is that.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:12 AM

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the brighness control is blacklight controled thoug ?

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:12 AM

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I have no idea if any panel without extra "white" pixels like some OLEDs actually would have fourth channel per pixel.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:13 AM

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it's not extra white, but it probably is extra black

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because it is AHVA so it have 2 black filters

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:13 AM

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Those are static.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:13 AM

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if I understood it right

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:13 AM

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Not controllable.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:13 AM

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ok so not differentiated ?

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:15 AM

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LCDs work by backlight sending generic light, then it passing through one polarizing filter, that removes everything but single polarization.
Then the light passes through the LCD element that twists the light to another polarization, how much depends on the control.
Then it passes through another polarizing filter that removes everything that wasn't twisted enough to 90 degree different polarization from the first filter.
And at some point there is layer of per-pixel colored filters, to only let specific wavelenght through.

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And the amount and quality of the filters sets the contrast ratio.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:16 AM

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the point of ahva is to give more brightness speed, so it would make sense to just have it controllable

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:16 AM

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Ok, so there might be then a greyscale second LCD panel there.
Would need to read.

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But VA for gaming? Why?
With that horrible contrast ratio.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:17 AM

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ahva is basically ips colors with a tweaked va filter

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the va layer is simpler than in pure va if I'm right so more go through

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:17 AM

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VAs have horrible response time in dark end. Still. Even the newest ones.

dire igloo Oct 31, 2023, 11:17 AM

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it's still va

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So smearing and ghosting galore

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:18 AM

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dire igloo So smearing and ghosting galore

but satisfactory gameplay is not that fast

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:18 AM

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Scroll white on black, any VA will make a horrible smear that cannot be read.
IPS allows you to read while scrolling that.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:18 AM

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I do get smearing sometimes though

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but very little

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I can read while scrolling

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that all is why I was saying it would makes sense to have the 2 independently controlled

dire igloo Oct 31, 2023, 11:20 AM

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wanton orchid but satisfactory gameplay is not that fast

If the grass field suddenly becomes darker from smearing shadows, it doesn't matter how fast it is

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:20 AM

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if it release the va sooner it can control smearing somewhat and use the ips layer instead

dire igloo Oct 31, 2023, 11:20 AM

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And if you see trailing edges when moving around, that's still annoying

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:20 AM

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Ah, AHVA is Advanced Hyper-Viewing Angle, not related to VA.

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Stupid naming in that case.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:20 AM

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what

dire igloo Oct 31, 2023, 11:21 AM

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twin dew Scroll white on black, any VA will make a horrible smear that cannot be read. IP...

Using a VA as a daily driver cuz I didn't know better.
Reading while scrolling (even black on white) hurts my eyes

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:21 AM

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so I got hit by misinformation hard

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I did know ahva is not va

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but I did read it had some similar components in it

dire igloo Oct 31, 2023, 11:21 AM

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The fuck is AHVA then

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:22 AM

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Some weird variant of IPS it seems?
Trying to find out.
Because most places just give same marketing blurb sourced thing from manufacturer probably=?

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:22 AM

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I did say it's ips variant

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but the point of va is high speed drops

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:22 AM

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Yes, and I expected that to be misinformation.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:22 AM

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so I was thinking it was ips with high speed drops

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:23 AM

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When the acronym points to be advanced type of VA.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:23 AM

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reliable info if it matters : my monitor is polarized

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:23 AM

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Yeah, no technical info available anywhere, just marketing blurbs.

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All are.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:24 AM

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oled arent

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:25 AM

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Yes, meant LCDs

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:25 AM

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I have partially polarized phone screen (which is not oled)
and some friend have diagonal polarized phone screen (which I find very smart, as you will never hit the polarization when using it either horizontal or vertically)

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:25 AM

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So using AHVA name is just wrong, when it is just another IPS variant.
No-one ever uses the other IPS variant subnames.

dire igloo Oct 31, 2023, 11:26 AM

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Samsung used to use PLS iirc cuz LG had name rights to IPS

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:27 AM

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PLS is different from IPS.

dire igloo Oct 31, 2023, 11:27 AM

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Seems like that has run out, so LG is now owning Nano IPS

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:27 AM

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Plane to Line Switching (PLS)
In Plane Switching (IPS)

dire igloo Oct 31, 2023, 11:27 AM

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twin dew PLS is different from IPS.

Thought it was just Samsung's IPS-equivalent?

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:27 AM

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Performance is similar, tech is different.

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The naming differences come from how the LCD layer works.

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How the crystals transform with the voltage to control the light.

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Ok, sorry, wrong for the PLS, it is variant of IPS

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Looked at the in depth article wrong.
Was just subheader under the general IPS main header, and not separate main one.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:30 AM

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btw weird thing

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my old sony phone had BLUE smearing

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I dont know why

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everything looked fine but sometimes it had very hard blue smearing

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maybe a power control issue I dont know

dire igloo Oct 31, 2023, 11:34 AM

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What is AHVA?
Yet another proprietary "IPS-like" panel type that offers similar performance to PLS. Developed by AUO, AHVA is short for Advanced Hyper-Viewing Angle. The acronym can be slightly confusing as AHVA technology will sometimes be mixed up with Vertical Alignment (VA, see below) even though it makes use of In-Plane Switching (IPS).

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Idk where that's from, asked someone in the PCPP server.
Seems like it's ChatGPT

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:34 AM

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Yeah, that is all over the place.
But no technical details about any possible differences from IPS.

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And as the almost exactly same line is on ALL the pages...

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:35 AM

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dire igloo Idk where that's from, asked someone in the PCPP server. Seems like it's ChatGPT

if it is chatgpt maybe I have the source for it, because what I'm reading have almost the exact same phrasing

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:35 AM

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tftcentral.co.uk/articles/panel_technologies

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But problem even with that page is that it is from 2015.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:37 AM

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ok I'm on AUO website, definitely a marketing bullshit driven company

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how many passed through ? lmao, 3 ?

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:38 AM

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But based on that old tftcentral take, no noticeable differences that would be outside of subtly different manufacturing process.
Just reimplementing same tech.

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And giving it new name to not infringe on trademarks.

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When the actual base tech is out of patent protection.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:40 AM

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that blows my mind how lawyer sucking goes through
how a basic name for a none-patented tech can be protected ??

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it's like if I was calling a truck a "hyper-load-car" HLC and then I could protect my "HLC" name ?

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even calling it "my technology" when it's not a name for a tech you actually own

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there are too many lawyers brainfarting out there

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actually protecting by law the misleading names

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misleading protected

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here we are

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GG

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:45 AM

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You have normal patents, that used to be fine, but now you can get those for just ideas, without enough examination because of underfunding the patent office and the law/rules set.
Then you have trademarks that in some cases are complete clusterfuck.
And then you have design patents...
Like one for using rounded corners on mobile phones...

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Apple tried to say they had, based on design patenting the iPhone shape.

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Normal patents USED to be that they just patented the specific implementation, that had to work.

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And any other implementation that lead to same effect was free game.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:46 AM

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imagine patenting a wheel calling it "supra-circular-linear-energy-transportation-method" and then it passing because "there is no prior patent to it, so it's new"

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IT IS A FUCKING WHEEL COME-ON

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:47 AM

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Basically happening all the time in US now.

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And happening more and more in EU too.

edgy hazel Oct 31, 2023, 11:47 AM

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wanton orchid imagine patenting a wheel calling it "supra-circular-linear-energy-transportatio...

Supra spottet

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https://tenor.com/view/toyota-supra-supra-drifting-supra-drifting-car-gif-18292432

Tenor

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:48 AM

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and then you have the "the acted laws can't be wrong, so we are applying the patent against you even if your product was already marketed prior the patent registering"

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fuckers

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:49 AM

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In that case the product counts as prior to invalidate the patent, but still costs fuckton to go throught the patent courts to actually get that invalidation.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:49 AM

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how aren't they choking on dicks at that point

edgy hazel Oct 31, 2023, 11:49 AM

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Well... They are

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:50 AM

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And then we have Software Patents, which for long time were thought to be not patentable, and were not even tried.
But then someone tried and high level patent courts twisted the law to a pretzel to allow that.

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Algoritms shouldn't be patentable by any sane interpretation of the laws.

edgy hazel Oct 31, 2023, 11:51 AM

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The patent and copyright courts are fucked up and backed up for years

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:54 AM

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And all current patents go through specialist lawyers who try to write all the points as generic as possible.

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And leave as much out as possible so that the patent cannot be used to replicate the thing being patented anymore.

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Even when that traditionally made the patent invalid.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:56 AM

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I'm not against generalizing it, as long as every general view of it are still new

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it is completely wrong to patent any not new aspect, it being through generalization or not

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 11:56 AM

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Generalizing as in writing it again as complete gobblygoock that doesn't mean anything.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 11:57 AM

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if it does not mean anything, then it does not mean anything new

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so we agree on that

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 12:00 PM

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patents.google.com/patent/US7469381B2/en <- Apple Edge Bounce software patent, that got invalidated later.
But most current patents are similar language.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 12:01 PM

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do people understand this is literal hijacking ?

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 12:01 PM

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No?
And the patent lawyers and judges want it, and some big corporations want it.

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patents.google.com/patent/EP3338686B1

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 12:02 PM

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if the people maintaining the laws do not maintain the laws
then it will only have to go through guns and blood

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there is no naive magical political good outcomes

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if you play mafia then you will get to fight mafia

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 12:03 PM

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Even US Supreme Court has several times pushed against previous level of patent court system, but they just don't care and don't implement what Supreme Court has told them to do.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 12:05 PM

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btw did telegram finally got forbidden by US ?

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because of the end-to-end encryption going "against US" laws now ?

edgy hazel Oct 31, 2023, 12:06 PM

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If end to end was against US law we would have bigger issues rn

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 12:07 PM

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it was being discussed, understand discord website facebook etc.. are not end-to-end

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 12:08 PM

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Lot of other real end-to-end encrypted solutions.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 12:08 PM

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that this discussed thing wanted to ban too

edgy hazel Oct 31, 2023, 12:10 PM

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That would require very detailed specifications on what exactly is being banned. Which is basically impossible without either:
Making it extremely easy to loophole the law or
Making the US and US adjacent businesses extremely unattractive for any secure data transmissions

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 12:11 PM

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I was thinking of the second way

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if political agencies were always pushing for smart moves it would not make everyone fight every so often

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note I dont know US well

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I know EU better

edgy hazel Oct 31, 2023, 12:13 PM

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There already are specific contracts with Microsoft which guarantee the data never leaving the EU. Banning end to end would basically mean Microsoft being just barely or not at all able to operate here.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 12:13 PM

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seems like both have their low and high
US high seems to be more reliable than EU high
but US low makes me wonder how US still is working fine

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for instance talking about patents

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US patents are scaring me
but what is scaring me more is that EU patents used to be more reliable
but they are kind of falling off too apparently now
but it took more effort and pressure to do so apparently

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 12:14 PM

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Patent trolling is mostly US problem AFAIK for example?

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Yes, EU patent system has been under systematic attack too from big money, to get it allow crap patents and software patents etc.

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And in EU case, it is the higher-ups in the patent office(s) that are being mostly the ones that are being pressured and bribed AFAIK.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 12:16 PM

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that's what scares me

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 12:16 PM

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wanton orchid seems like both have their low and high US high seems to be more reliable than E...

and exactly why I said it like that

edgy hazel Oct 31, 2023, 12:17 PM

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twin dew And in EU case, it is the higher-ups in the patent office(s) that are being most...

IT'S "LOBBIED" AND NOT "BRIBED"

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 12:17 PM

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US supreme court looks still reliable apparently even if I dont know real shit about it
EU seems to be more a lotery

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 12:17 PM

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wanton orchid US supreme court looks still reliable apparently even if I dont know real shit a...

Nah, the US supreme court currently is full of extreme-right-wing partisans who have had big bribery scandals this year.

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And several who care about bible and party positions more than the law.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 12:18 PM

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the world definitely does not look very nice from last years

edgy hazel Oct 31, 2023, 12:18 PM

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Wasn't there a huge scandal with no consequences about one of the justices getting his luxury life paid for entirely?

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 12:19 PM

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edgy hazel Wasn't there a huge scandal with no consequences about one of the justices getti...

it's classical problem everywhere though

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 12:19 PM

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Yes.
And his wife is/was part of Trump election denial inner circle.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 12:19 PM

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that is the fairly standard bullshit you see everywhere

jagged snow Oct 31, 2023, 12:20 PM

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@wanton orchid the uk are the ones who are trying to get around it

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Read up on the laws they passed last week

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 12:21 PM

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tbh since UK went off the EU I didnt follow it much

edgy hazel Oct 31, 2023, 12:21 PM

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No need to

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They're shooting themselves in the foot fully automatic

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 12:21 PM

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looks like it's going in every way worse possible

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probably not profiting any organization in the end

edgy hazel Oct 31, 2023, 12:22 PM

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UK is having one crisis after the other and keep making up new ones

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 12:23 PM

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it like 2 liers fighting at each others, they everytime think they got better by putting the other one in a bad way, and that (temporarily) it's better for them
but the fact is they are both dragging themselves down

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they are not profiting themselves

edgy hazel Oct 31, 2023, 12:24 PM

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It's more like someone lost in the forest going into caves getting lost more

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 12:25 PM

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"if we get stuck there at least we are not grammatically lost right ?"

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damned I struggle to work, the political problems are just stuck in my mind

edgy hazel Oct 31, 2023, 12:27 PM

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Tbh the pro DExit (Germany leaving the EU) got 15% last election

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Context: In a multi party system this is a lot

pure karma Oct 31, 2023, 1:01 PM

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#off-topic-media message there mad durable but dang do they lack dust filters

edgy hazel Oct 31, 2023, 1:20 PM

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You call that dust?

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Call me when you can get a sweater made out of it

night girder Oct 31, 2023, 1:21 PM

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weird flex

edgy hazel Oct 31, 2023, 1:22 PM

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Gimme that

charred pewter Oct 31, 2023, 1:28 PM

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ha

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hahahahahhahahaa

dusk rivet Oct 31, 2023, 1:29 PM

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looks like literal mold

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how does that even happen

charred pewter Oct 31, 2023, 1:29 PM

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my dryer vent is cleaner

edgy hazel Oct 31, 2023, 1:33 PM

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Snorting that on a Friday evening about to start the party

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I was torn between both pictures

charred pewter Oct 31, 2023, 1:52 PM

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i think i like the second better

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SNORT

pure karma Oct 31, 2023, 2:16 PM

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i enjoyed the snow while it lasted

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snowed yesterday so i was hopping for a snowy halloween

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but the sun decided to poke its face out

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i doubt thats acurate but ok

jagged snow Oct 31, 2023, 2:25 PM

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Lol its -8 here

tough owl Oct 31, 2023, 2:31 PM

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Centigrade?

jagged snow Oct 31, 2023, 2:31 PM

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Yes

tough owl Oct 31, 2023, 2:31 PM

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oh

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-3 here 😔

jagged snow Oct 31, 2023, 2:31 PM

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🙂 that's in the valley though

tough owl Oct 31, 2023, 2:32 PM

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jagged snow Lol its -8 here

It was that bad yesterday morning here

jagged snow Oct 31, 2023, 2:32 PM

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It's below 0 a little higher up

dusk rivet Oct 31, 2023, 2:42 PM

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it’s 54 here

sand saddle Oct 31, 2023, 2:43 PM

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pure karma i enjoyed the snow while it lasted

I didn't transfer fast enough from snorting dust to Canadian climate and thought why the fuck is a 14 year old enjoying cocaine.

twin dew Oct 31, 2023, 2:43 PM

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dusk rivet it’s 54 here

I expect that to be in the Freedom Units?

dusk rivet Oct 31, 2023, 2:43 PM

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twin dew I expect that to be in the Freedom Units?

sure hope so

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if it’s in celsius i have a major problem

charred pewter Oct 31, 2023, 2:48 PM

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FU

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its 126 FU in arizona right now

pure karma Oct 31, 2023, 3:14 PM

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sand saddle I didn't transfer fast enough from snorting dust to Canadian climate and thought...

🤣

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 3:41 PM

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can an error be considered a result

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I'm really asking me hard if practically speaking "hasResult" should return positively when there is an error report in it

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there are 2 definition of result possible

night girder Oct 31, 2023, 3:42 PM

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Haha, I am going to let you answer your own question.

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You seem to be on the right track 🤣

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 3:43 PM

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"information to gather things we wanted to know"
"information that the operation landed"

night girder Oct 31, 2023, 3:43 PM

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"result" is highly subjective.

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When I write tests, and those tests want errors as a result, because I want to test that certain errors are thrown in my tests. In this case, yes an error is a result.

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if my program was to spit out a json in a .txt file, and there is an error, then the error is not an result.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 3:44 PM

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I wrote "hasError" so if there is an error it should be easy to catch no matter what "hasResult" reports

night girder Oct 31, 2023, 3:44 PM

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The result, in my opinion, should be the json or nothing and not an error.

wanton orchid Oct 31, 2023, 3:45 PM

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ok

night girder Oct 31, 2023, 3:45 PM

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Also, depending on code, use context. If you have powerusers using your code, then throwingf errors is fine in production.

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If you have non tech people using it, don't throw errors at em etc. (will only confuse people)