satisfactory

[spice patio]

Dynamically reduces mesh complexity and triangle counts to provide dynamic level of detail.
Which traditionally devs have had to do by including multiple levels of models for each object, which then get switched in depending on distance.

As there is no point in rendering triangles that are smaller than pixel etc.

But up close if there isn't enough detail, stuff just looks wrong.

[wet iris]

but "dynamically" meaning algorithmically or does it AI generate them DLSS style or something?

[spice patio]

Traditional algoritms.

[wet iris]

I see

yeah I guess it does take out a lot of work from the dev having to make like 3 models

[spice patio]

But when game devs throw in those 100-10000x too high detail artist models...

Instead of redusing that artist model to the highest ingame LOD level themselves or with auto-help...

[wet iris]

if I may ask, are you a game developer?

[spice patio]

No.

[wet iris]

I honestly think the only reason games like Marvel rivals can push out slop at the speed that they do is because of UE5 holding their hand with all of this tech

[green fiber]

the quality of SF models is just about right i think.
If you go in close enough you can see the polygons, but from a slight distance together with normals and textures it all tends to look pretty detailed

[wet iris]

end result is game looking bad while also running at a terrible framerate on good hardware

[spice patio]

Often switches to second level from max little too early.

[raven grotto]

is smart plating good for the sink

[wet iris]

yeah I have never felt like something should be higher detail than it currently is, it does feel like things are way too detailed sometimes though

[green fiber]

yeah theres a few cases where its a bit odd

same for the metal finishes being switched from too early

but i guess that ties into LOD

[spice patio]

Yeah, those only work on that highest LOD version.

[wet iris]

do you need it for later phases, I haven't gotten that far

[raven grotto]

im on phase 2 and it needs it so

[wet iris]

I'd assume hooking it up to a storage container and then overflow into sink would be neat

[raven grotto]

thats about all i know

overflow?

[wet iris]

smart splitters, you will get there soon

[green fiber]

smart splitters.
if you know what those are

[raven grotto]

not yet mk4 logistics I assume

probably will be my first milestone of phase 3

[wet iris]

you can say "send smart plating forward but if you cannot anymore, send rest to the right or left"

[wet iris]

I'd get them asap, they allow for some cool stuff like sushi belts

[raven grotto]

yumy

[green fiber]

earlier than that actually, you just gotta research the funny yellow metal

[wet iris]

wait caterium? they're locked behind caterium???

[green fiber]

yuh

[wet iris]

i swear they were a milestone

generational misremember

[raven grotto]

oh yea ive been putting that off because its 900m away and im trying to get my dimensional depots better

[green fiber]

caterium is optionally doable before the mandatory milestone

[normal orbit]

Tier 2 has all you need for smart splitter, they available early on.

[raven grotto]

BUT to do that I need to improve my power situation

[wet iris]

Im literally going to launch my game rn just to get that done 😭

[raven grotto]

its a never ending loop of i need to to this BUT i need to do blah blah blah

[wet iris]

started a new save recently after quitting after aluminium

[raven grotto]

like im almost done with smart plating so i need to make a versitile framework factory like oml

should i go upload speed or stack size first

[dense violet]

either, doesn't really matter, you can find more sloops easily

[raven grotto]

wym? as of right now I dont have a use for sloops because I havent gone through caterium and unlocked product amplification

[normal orbit]

Stacksize, upload speed is nice but when building with blueprints the amount of materials is usually limiting factor

[dense violet]

either upload speed or stack size. Doesn't matter too much.

you'll want both anyway.

[raven grotto]

i might do speed because my SAM is far away and itd be nice to have quicker acess for this reason

[spice patio]

And the game already does try to optimize the processing of production chains.
Which is in part why having separate factories keeps performance up longer, as they have less interconnectedness, so they can be processed in parallel when there aren't belts connecting stuff.

[raven grotto]

but i need to sphere hunting ugh

[wild phoenix]

Yeah I once you get to 60/min it’s nice

And 200 stack

I have a miner connected to a constructor that makes it into the cube thingy

Then I can craft the thing needed for the upgrade at my base

[delicate edge]

hi little question , the bug of sync on dedicated server as been fixed ?

[green fiber]

good question

[earnest condor]

Size matters.

[wild phoenix]

The secret trick is you need a FUCKTON of iron

For any decent amount/min

[earnest condor]

🤔

[worn oar]

Fuckton of coal you mean?

Vers framework is not as bad as the other stuff. You can get it to 25/min fairly easily

[earnest condor]

Add limestone for Molded Beam and you can get to 45 easily as well.

[wet moon]

can you sink the waste products of nuclear?

[earnest condor]

No.

Why would they even add waste if you could just sink it immediately?

[lone ermine]

hello! i was trying to create a hypertube canon and i kinda got stuck in a loop. is there anyway of leaving it ?

[dense violet]

respawn

[lone ermine]

oh yeah i forgot that there was that option! thank you

[wet moon]

well, Aluminum has that waste water you can package and sink once you reduce it enough to be reasonable

[earnest condor]

Which is a "I did not pay attention in Phase 3 at all" solution to that, yes.

[worn oar]

You can sink the fuel rods and some of the ingredients. Just not the waste

[raven grotto]

do you guys actually search for spheres or just stumble upon them

[earnest condor]

Both.

[wet moon]

D:

[raven grotto]

also quick question how do i unlock like a gas mask is it under sulfer or smth?

[earnest condor]

Mycelia.

[wet moon]

how do you suggest it be done then

[worn oar]

Part of the game's design is to give you problems to solve so that you are not making the same boring layout for every item. This is a problem to solve, and you have multiple ways to solve it

[wet moon]

math it out perfectly?

[earnest condor]

What did you do with HOR byproduct in Phase 3?

[wet moon]

HOR?

[earnest condor]

I'll be here.

[worn oar]

Your solution is perfectly fine, especially if you are just using one or two nodes of bauxite. But a more common solution is to use the wastewater for some of the aluminum processing

[wet moon]

clearly HOR is an abbreviation for something and i dont have the game open so i guess il be here too?

[earnest condor]

Think about Phase 3. What's the new material?

[wet moon]

oil?

[earnest condor]

Which you use to make?

[worn oar]

Why am I getting ping deleted

[wet moon]

replied wrongly

[wet moon]

yeah, iv done that to massively reduce water excess, but the 50 or so left per minute im packaging

[wet moon]

ah, Heavy Oil Residue

the purple one

[worn oar]

At some point I'm going to have to force myself to use a water well just to say I did. Because I really don't see a use case for them. Lol

[earnest condor]

Yes, which is a byproduct of Plastic/Rubber.
So did you package and sink it?

[wet moon]

the byproduct is the blue powder stuff i cant remeber the name of and i use it to make plastic

[earnest condor]

That is only the case if you went Oil>Fuel

Which you wouldn't do because you have no way to use Fuel when you unlock it.

[wet moon]

I go Crude > HOR then Fuel and plastic

[earnest condor]

You eventually do that, but you cannot do that immediately.

[worn oar]

Confession time: I make a point of unlocking fuel power before I ever head over to start refining oil. And just go exploring in the meantime/connecting infrastructure for the oil

[wet moon]

well too bad I didnt use oil until i needed it for power lol so i cant relate

there was no byproduct for me

both are main products

[earnest condor]

So you skipped the lesson the game had for you. That makes sense.

[wet moon]

lol, in bauxite its not the same, and yet i overcame the challenge relatively easily

i dont think theres much lessons to be learnt

[earnest condor]

Wow..

[wet moon]

im just as supprised to learn someone built up their oil stuff before having fuel power unlocked

[green fiber]

because coke exists

[raven grotto]

uh i found a hole in the rocks on the map

[earnest condor]

I feel badly for the devs putting in that amount of work to ensure the game teaches you things... only to be met with "there are not much lessons."

[mortal ginkgo]

You shouldn't. Especially when game is truly sandbox that things can be missed, avoided, ignored, cuddled, asked for a date, etc.

[green fiber]

Sev you shouldnt feel bad because that just happens

[worn oar]

Is the lesson of "manually flush pipes or use buffers until you have starter plastic/rubber" really that meaningful

[earnest condor]

I do. Because they spent good time with honest intentions to help people.

[green fiber]

that just means you didnt pay much attention at that stage

manual flushing isnt needed

[worn oar]

Elaborate?

Yes, you can use buffers also

[wet moon]

what do you want me to say, its not my first automation game so for me theres nothing to learn from things that dont present the biggest challenges

[green fiber]

Not even buffers are needed

[earnest condor]

Why are you buffering HOR?

[green fiber]

you do NOT have to store ANY heavy oil at all.
you have a way to process it and make use of it

and i dont mean liquid fuel

[worn oar]

I'm not. I offered it as an alternative to flushing until you have the 600 plastic and 400 rubber IIRC

Or more if you want to stock up

[earnest condor]

The point of Phase 3 is "how to deal with byproducts."
First lesson: Byproducts can be used to make other things.

Get to Phase 4.
WHaT dO i DO wiTH tHiS WaTEr?
Um???? -- USE IT TO MAKE OTHER THINGS THE WAY YOU JUST LEARNED BACK IN PHASE 3???

[mortal ginkgo]

just buy them from shop 😛

[green fiber]

Im not sure why you would settle for a manual solution.

[worn oar]

Yes, that's what I do because I like doing the fuel plants right away

[earnest condor]

@ivory bluff why are you holding so many drive choices? 😭

[mortal ginkgo]

I think it is a good option that devs put. I think 99.99% of people also buy some aluminimuımumum stuff to get Hoverpack right away.

ıts not biggie. Yolo.

[wet moon]

WHaT dO i DO wiTH tHiS WaTEr?
never said that

Um???? -- USE IT TO MAKE OTHER THINGS THE WAY YOU JUST LEARNED BACK IN PHASE 3???
I just asked if you could sink nuclear wate products lol

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, plutonium rod is sinkable, which most does

[ivory bluff]

I've been exploring a lot. I'll begin learning some once I finally go back to factory-ing 😅

[worn oar]

I gotta say this is a true nerd fight in the sense of everyone making valid and workable choices and being deadset on the other person being unequivocally wrong

[thick river]

if a train is stopped at a block signal, will an approaching train stop behind the stoppped train or will they collide because that train cannot see the block signal

[mortal ginkgo]

bro is driverhogging, exploremaxxing, bro is big dawg, bro is mental, bro is unhinged

[earnest condor]

Collide.

[wet moon]

the only way to use the byproducts of bauxite refinement is to first guarantee that your bautixe refinement never stops, otherwise you run out of water and whatever else down you chain also stops, so you will have to use a sink somewhere down the line or have absolute confidence in your entire factory to use all the aluminum at all times.

[worn oar]

That's not the only way lol

[earnest condor]

Why would production ever stop?

Let me rephrase.

After Phase 1: Why would production ever stop?

[wet moon]

https://tenor.com/view/satisfactory-satisfactory-update5-train-train-wreck-satisfactory-train-wreck-gif-24135396

[worn oar]

Because I haven't retrofitted every production line with smart splitters 👆🏻 🤓

[thick river]

so at each block signal i need a block signal for each train on the line?

[green fiber]

you need regular block signals along the track

[wet moon]

because one input for space elevator was done before others?

[green fiber]

a second train wouldnt even start driving

[earnest condor]

Genuine: is this translated?

[wet moon]

yes

[thick river]

bro no 💀 💀 💀

[earnest condor]

Not seeing how this makes anything stop, when overflow being routed to sink is standard.

[wet moon]

it makes perfect sense

[earnest condor]

It does not make sense.

[wet moon]

so like i said, somewhere down the line you need sinks

[wet moon]

it just stems from misunderstanding of block signals in the first place, the english and grammar is just fine.

[earnest condor]

"At each block signal I need a block signal"
Um... you already have a block signal, so not sure how you "need a block signal" if one exists?
"need a block signal for each train on the line"
You can't have more than one block signal in the space unless they face opposing directions, so maximum 2. Meaning you cannot have 1 per train?

[green fiber]

coal generator for the water

[wet moon]

actually decent idea

but id need to get excess coal from somwhere

highkey the most annoying item in the game

[green fiber]

coal? nah

[wet moon]

few concentrated sources, and few are Pure rating

[green fiber]

quartz is worse at times

[wet moon]

fr?

[green fiber]

coal is sprinkled all over at least

granted, region matters

[wet moon]

i dislike sprinked cuz i cant use trains nicely

[green fiber]

good luck finding good coal in grass fields for example

[wet moon]

need 10 stations

[wet moon]

theres two sources really south and then 4 AWESOME ones in the big lake

life savers but not enough later on

[green fiber]

well if you stop by each individual coal spot 1 by 1 then i can see it being annoying.
at a certain distance i would just belt it to a central train station first because the extra rail infrastructure to drive to each one is just unnecessary

[worn oar]

There is quite a bit of coal on the map, but it's a bit further out to nudge you to explore

[wet moon]

yeah i guess so, or I need to start using my drone network i spent so long setting up

[worn oar]

And to create infrastructure

[green fiber]

its almost NEVER near a spawn region

so if you only stay in those, yeah, basically anything is far away and sprinkled about

[worn oar]

The grass fields is nice for two pure nodes though

Problem is I really want to use them for steel, every time

[green fiber]

good for coal power (ish) but the iron quality leaves steel lacking

[worn oar]

Huh? You have more than enough iron nearby to match the coal

[wet moon]

one of the cooler things iv built :D
#screenshots message

there a TON of Iron in the grass area, so many nodes I still dont touch

[green fiber]

yes, a bunch of smaller impure nodes.

[worn oar]

Yes, which are good enough when combined

[wet moon]

do people really end up making train networks across the whole map or is it more consolidated?

[green fiber]

varies

some want a whole map network

but you dont ever really need it

i never made one, thats for sure

[earnest condor]

People end up flushing HOR on a timer, so train networks are entirely possible.

[green fiber]

i mostly go A to B directly

[worn oar]

#screenshots message I didn't

[wet moon]

Haha wow

Thats alot

Tomorrow il put my save into that thing and map mine out

[green fiber]

with 1.2 you can definitely also just truck everything everywhere

[wet moon]

Interested to see it

[wet moon]

Howcome? I didnt really check what changes

[green fiber]

and since coal is a great truck fuel you could totally make a truck based coal network lol

[green fiber]

the truck routes are now built by hand, kinda like rails

[wet moon]

Ohh

So you build roads or something instead?

[green fiber]

and the vehicles now snap to them and basically turn into bottleg trains, but with directed rails and automatic signals if you will

[green fiber]

no just an actual "path"

[wet moon]

Lol

[green fiber]

its a hologram thing

[worn oar]

You just don't drive the actual route to record it

[green fiber]

the road needs to be built too (or you just drive on dirt)

and honestly dirt paths are good overall

[wet moon]

Damn, i thought that the path recording thing was so cool tho

[ivory bluff]

Hmmmmmm... Not quite sure what to do: exploring, setting up trains, continuing my roads, start the phase 4 mats...

[wet moon]

Not that i ever used it

[green fiber]

was cool but the old system had some... fun quirks

and those fun quirks could turn into not-so-fun situations

just kinda wonky at times

[wet moon]

Fair

[green fiber]

and if you made mistakes fixing a route ment re-recording it entirely

[wet moon]

When i get bored i just walk around the map looking for mercer spheres, or abusing the local wildlife

[green fiber]

new system is more stable and "easier" overall but it lost the flexibility of the old system i guess

[wet moon]

Lowkey they should allow both methods

[green fiber]

they dont seem to think so

[wet moon]

Early game getting slots of concrete is kinda a pain so building roads could be bad

[green fiber]

thats why you drive on dirt

[hexed phoenix]

Is there anyone who have done Phase 5 with all Game modifier parameters set to max (2x Recipe input, 5x Space elevator, 2x Power consumption) ?

[green fiber]

the dirt roads are more than servicable initially

[earnest condor]

Imagine building roads.

[raven grotto]

man mercer sphere hunting is annoying

like this one is surrounded by uranium AND is inside a rock

one of which i cannot counter :/

[tall lantern]

time to unlock nobelisks then

[ivory bluff]

(nervous laugh)

[worn oar]

That's very unlikely, but also the max space elevator is x100. There is someone on reddit claiming they are starting phase 3 though

[wet moon]

Ohh, im thinking of the path thing as like a thing you build tile by tile but actually even trains dont need roads

[raven grotto]

heh thats the part I can do

[tall lantern]

food counters uranium

[raven grotto]

how so

[tall lantern]

can't die if you heal

[raven grotto]

too much

[tall lantern]

more food

[raven grotto]

work

[wet moon]

Fr, just spam inhalers

[hexed phoenix]

ah yeah 100x :D but yeah trying my self - added random resource nodes and purity as well for all of the nodes, just to top it off..

I'm still stuck on Biomass burners after 30+ hours game play

[raven grotto]

havent spent the time to research those yet 🫠

[wet moon]

Bruh

The MAM is like the most fun thing in the game

Lowkey i been slacking in the mam too tho..

Lots of the sulfur and mycelia tree i can just finish rn

[worn oar]

The most fun thing in the game is making a power slug racetrack with differing belt speeds

[wet moon]

🤣

[worn oar]

And then launching yourself into the complimentary plinko machine to bet on the outcome

[earnest condor]

@ivory bluff yes, Automated Miner is great.

[muted wing]

hey guys, trying to figure out how to use blueprint on multiplayer, my friend is the host, do he need to save the blueprint and then i can use the blueprint?

[ivory bluff]

ohyou.gif

[hexed phoenix]

Impure Limestone Node is greater than Automated Miner recipe... Change my mind

[raven grotto]

i survived a fall that brought me to like literally 1 sliver of hp

[keen seal]

anyone knows what sound effect slider would affect the trees falling sound effect? its a bit loud and id like to turn it down while keeping other stuff up

[ivory bluff]

If you were full life: that's by design.

[earnest condor]

It is impossible to die from a fall when at max HP.

[raven grotto]

oh ok

[earnest condor]

Effectively making inhalers parachutes 😄

[raven grotto]

good to know

i need to get me caterium runnning

but i also need to do versitile framework

but i also need to refresh my factory and actually make it look good

but I also need to make more coal gen for more power

i need to do everything the factory must grow

[ornate saffron]

one thing at a time ^_^

[raven grotto]

im trying 😭

i start doing one thing then need more of a resource so i go back then lose track and start another

ok how do i get more mycelia

[ornate saffron]

mushrooms

there is caves

[elder shoal]

swamp has heaps of it, if you can survive

[wild phoenix]

Cut down an entire forest because I have jetpack but not the packaged fuel 💀

[raven grotto]

should the oasis in dune desert have a bunch?

actually nevermind im close to the swamp

[ornate saffron]

be wary of the fuana

[raven grotto]

those standing gas plants?

[ornate saffron]

fuana are creatures

*fauna

[raven grotto]

oh so like the hogs n everything?

[ornate saffron]

ya, in this case big hogs.... and spiders

[raven grotto]

oh whattt those bone structure things in the bottom of dune desert have mycelia

[elder shoal]

big stingers are the worst when you have 4 of them on you

[raven grotto]

im good

big kitty cats

im not an aracnaphobe but the cats are funny

[trim flare]

how did he overclock it 2000%?

i cant find any way of blueprint editing that works

[earnest condor]

He probably used a mod that allowed the overclock on the machine, then saved the blueprint in vanilla and uploaded.

[trim flare]

any known mods that allow me to do that?

[ornate saffron]

ask the modding DC, they would know best

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @ornate saffron

[trim flare]

sent

[raven grotto]

how often do I have to replace my gas mask filter

[trim flare]

about 10 sec i think

it takes it from inventory

[ornate saffron]

i just keep a stack in my invenetory at all times

itsll auto replace

[trim flare]

real

[raven grotto]

how bigs a stack

[trim flare]

50

[raven grotto]

ty

[elder shoal]

Synthetic Polyester Fabric is the best

[abstract heron]

has anyone seen jason or mikael?

[green fiber]

Leo its Sunday for them

[ornate saffron]

no they be busy bsuy preping for 06/02

[abstract heron]

ik 😛 still thinking what to do for 20k hrs

yay 19,713 hrs on record

[elder shoal]

who even has that much free time

[abstract heron]

hrs on my world 5,865hrs

[runic musk]

played like 20hrs back in the day. the world is gone, so i am restarting. still hating the biomess with leaves and wood is 2 different craft recepies xD

https://imgur.com/a/kFSJcyr

[formal tundra]

i passed the entrance exam successfully

yipee

[runic musk]

Nice man xD

[formal tundra]

just completed phase 4... almost at the end of the journey

[abstract heron]

u did show me?

[runic musk]

think u pinged the wrong message m8

[abstract heron]

oh sorry i thought u said 20k hrs

[runic musk]

No, no K in that xD

[abstract heron]

i need more coffee

[runic musk]

just pushing till i get coal, so i dont need to get biomass and switch this constructor to wood and leaf over and over xD

[earnest condor]

End?

Being free to build what you want is the.. end?

Odd way to spell beginning.

[white dawn]

I recommend having two separate containers where you can dump leaves/wood, and have them go into dedicated constructors so you're not switching recipes. Can merge the output of those two to then process into Biomass and then Soild Biofuel

(And also can add a third container to also process Alien Remains, in case you'd like to use those for biomass, too. Creatures give a lot of biomass)

[raven grotto]

can two different MAMs research two different things at the same time

[white dawn]

Nope, they all have one shared state

[raven grotto]

darn

[white dawn]

Which is nice for Hard Drive research while you're out exploring and collecting drives

Find a drive, construct a MAM, plop the drive in, deconstruct MAM. It'll keep researching and you'll eventually get a notice that it's done.

At that time you can construct another MAM if you like and plop a new drive in or whatever

[runic musk]

yea was doing that, but had legit 0 energy till this. so hadn't enough energy for both constructors xD

[white dawn]

You can obviously still find hard drives more quickly than they can be researched, when doing it like that, but it'll at a minimum cut down on the "backlog" considerably

[white dawn]

I think one Solid Biofuel constructor can power something like 12 Bio Burners, btw, and that's a pretty easy setup since you can belt it all the way from the bins you're dumping stuff into

Should give you enough headroom for an extra Constructor or two

[normal orbit]

15, 4/burner. makes 60/min

[white dawn]

Heh, yep, just checked it and was about to correct. :D

I don't spend enough time in Phase 1 for those numbers to stick in my brain

[bold valley]

I'm glad that Satisfactory scratches the same spot in the brain as factorio if it comes to aesthetic. I already consider rebuilding my bio burner setup because its 1m below the rest and sand dunes are clipping through it.

[white dawn]

-# And also I can't bloody type today. Need either more or less caffeine...

[normal orbit]

satisfactory takes aesthetics to another league

[abstract heron]

i need to figure out about how to do iron fully overclocked from refeinrys at 1200

[fierce matrix]

Do awesome sinks have static power use or is it dynamic?

[bronze wagon]

😱 My boombox doesn't make any sound, did I buy a defective one ?

[final aurora]

can i take down the giant trees? i feel like i remember being able to take a few down. but i cant take any down now.

[barren cave]

Does anyone know which update Satisfactory was on May 18, 2019?

[empty bridge]

Hi All. Can you wire up two or more coal power generators to increase the power output?

[final aurora]

uh yeah

[empty bridge]

great!

[barren cave]

A great weapon against those flying bugs

[white dawn]

When active, the sink's got a constant power draw, but when it's not sinking things it'll go down to 0.1MW, like other idle machines

[empty bridge]

I should have asked, how do you link the coal power generators together, power wise that is?

[glossy scarab]

how do i do a smart spitters job without a smart splitter?

bueprint is in #screenshots

programable*

[white dawn]

Same way you do so with any power-generation machines (including Bio Burners): make sure they all connect up to the same network of poles/cables

In general you'd have all your power-generation equipment at a site combine down into (ultimately) just a single cable, which is what's delivering the power to the rest of your grid

[sour brook]

I do have a question about the looking for group thing, what are the rules about what i can ask for and what i cant? i am not sure if this is the right channel

[empty bridge]

does that mean you link a cable between each generator then the last one you link to your grid via a power tower for example?

[white dawn]

Yeah, basically, though of course it doesn't have to be a power tower

I generally just have one pole/socket per power-generation machine and hook them up sort of like a belt manifold

[empty bridge]

didn't think you could have more than one cable attached to the generator output

[white dawn]

(In the current public version of the game you can't directly daisy-chain buildings together for power, and even on v1.2 (dropping on June 2), daisy-chaining is unlocked after the mk3 power pole in the MAM, so you'd be unlikely to have that unlocked by coal power)

[white dawn]

Heh, that's what I was clarifying there: you can't, directly (at least not at the stage of coal power, and on the current public version of the game)

But just one pole/socket per building, sort of manifold style, will work just as well

Or, y'know, you could wire like three of them into a single pole and then hook those up down the line

[empty bridge]

so that makes planning for power requirements even more challenging then

[white dawn]

However you like; tons of ways to do it

[sour brook]

Because im thinking to do a thread about looking for a group with some mods but one mod requires a bit of setup for each participant

[normal orbit]

Probably update 1

[white dawn]

Hooking up power is generally pretty straightforward; power lines can carry an infinite amount of power, and there's no power loss or anything in the game

[earnest condor]

Was that the one that brought it to steam?

[white dawn]

Just so long as you're hooking them all into the same grid however you want, it'll be fine

[normal orbit]

I don't remember

[earnest condor]

Or did steam access start on Update 2?

[white dawn]

Steam was Update 3.5 I believe

[earnest condor]

Ah.

[normal orbit]

Came to steam in march 2019 I think

[latent prawn]

i do this with fuel generators so that i can easily run down the line & disconnect all of them in a row. lots of times i find myself needing to refill the pipes, so making that a quick process is important to me

[fierce matrix]

update 3 actually

cuz thats when i bought it

[earnest condor]

So steam people never lived in a world without pipes or trains 🤔

[fierce matrix]

nope

tbf i didnt use a train till i had like 600 hours and update 8 or something

[earnest condor]

That explains a couple things.

[glossy scarab]

how do i do a programable splitters job without a smart splitter?
blueprint is in ⁠#screenshots

[earnest condor]

What job?

What specific thing do you require the splitter to do?

[fervent reef]

whats the most well rounded build spot

[white dawn]

It was during Update 3's lifecycle, yeah, but it was 3.5 specifically: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Patch_0.3.5

[earnest condor]

Or are you just going to ask and then leave like you did yesterday?

[white dawn]

(And it could be argued that Update 3 really should have been called Update 4. :)

[fierce matrix]

i bought it on steam before update 3.5 was even announced. that was so hype tho

[earnest condor]

For?

[sour brook]

the one with minimun elevation changes? i think the rocky desert or dune desert

[glossy scarab]

building motors

[earnest condor]

Splitters do not build motors.
What specific action do you need the splitter to do?

[glossy scarab]

im sorry, my computer crashed and I only fixed the issue today

[normal orbit]

Motors are made in an assembler or manufacturer

[earnest condor]

Rocky.

[fierce matrix]

you dont really have to leave the dune desert till you get to aluminium. so in 1 way its a really good biome but in the other way you wont really get to work on a big grid till much later

[earnest condor]

Oil.

[latent prawn]

dune desert is anything but flat, it just kinda seems that way until you start trying to build 🙂

[fierce matrix]

theres like 3 oil nodes right next to the rocky desert. id still class that as inside. it wont be enough for a major powerplant tho

[glossy scarab]

the requirments for the blueprint is wonky, like 162 iron ingots in one area, and 130 in another etc

[fervent reef]

everything

[earnest condor]

You classing something doesn't make it true 🤷‍♂️
None of the starting biomes have oil.

[normal orbit]

there is an area between golden coast and grassy fields which have every resource in the game within a 1,5-2km radius if thats of intrest. Its not a lot of resources, but they're there

[earnest condor]

There are no rate-limit splitters in the game.

[latent prawn]

one can say the same about blue crater & the canyon nexus

[glossy scarab]

so do programmable spiltters do then?

[earnest condor]

Biome with the most different resources is Rocky Desert.

Also has easy access to oil and very easy access to bauxite.

[fervent reef]

its bad for coal i feel like

[earnest condor]

More options per side than the 1 option smarts give you.

[earnest condor]

Having 8 coal nodes in-biome is "bad"?

[latent prawn]

since they added the 4 coal nodes on the nw coast, that isn't really true

[normal orbit]

blue crater doesnt have bauxite or uranium

[earnest condor]

Also, if you already have personal feelings about this don't ask us. Just go build where you feel like.

[latent prawn]

when you're counting 4 from another biome, meh

[earnest condor]

Does BC have SAM?

[normal orbit]

?

[latent prawn]

yes

[normal orbit]

rocky desert has 8 coal nodes in its biome

[latent prawn]

in a rather inconvenient cave whose entrance is out on the cliffside, there's a sam node. real pain to get that same out of the cave 🙂

[normal orbit]

6 normal and 2 impure

[latent prawn]

isn't it 4 normal on the nw coast, and then another 4 normal nodes in the north forest bay that are really not in the same biome?

[vague breach]

Hi there, I think I have just finished making my plan to finish phase 3, but before I do anything I'd like to ask if you think I should do something different here, so that I don't make any dumb mistakes:

• fix my fuel power plant, which uses diluted packaged fuel to produce 1920 fuel/min, with 96 rubber and plastic as byproduct to be used in other factories
• dismantle my current steel setup and replace it with an 'outpost' that uses 900 coal to produce as much steel beams/pipes as it can, so I don't need to produce steel products locally at each other factory
• Create an iron-only factory (importing just rubber) that produces modular engines/automated wiring and some leftover components using iron pipes and iron wire alt recipes.
• Create a HMF, versatile framework and encased industrial beam factory using imported steel
• Expand my caterium factory to produce computers, circuit boards using the caterium alts, and use the imports from all other factories to get ACUs.

Does that look good, or am I forgetting something or making a dumb choice anywhere here?

[normal orbit]

theres 4 normal at the coast to northern forest, which are in rocky deserts biome, and 2 normal + 2 impure in the north west corner which also is rocky desert

[earnest condor]

Your save. You are the sole person who decides what is dumb.

[normal orbit]

then theres the three pure which technically is in the crater lake biome but is so close to rocky desert spawn location people tend to count them too making it eleven total

[latent prawn]

ahh i thought the 2 impure were normal. oh well, makes rd worse lol

[normal orbit]

worse?

[earnest condor]

The 3 on the cliff are not in-biome. The 8 are.

[earnest condor]

Also?

[primal fable]

Did they add daisy chaining power to experimental? If so, how do I access it?

[earnest condor]

MAM, Caterium Tree.

[primal fable]

I thought so, I just haven't gotten there I guess. Thank you.

[normal orbit]

blue crater have what i would consider close to it, 2 impure sam nodes

[earnest condor]

Close to but not in?

[latent prawn]

one of them is literally in the biome in the crater

[earnest condor]

It's after pole mk3.

[normal orbit]

one is in, the other is on the edge of the purple forest

[earnest condor]

Fair.

[latent prawn]

someone tell sev to either unblock people or stop spamming questions already answered

[vague breach]

Yeah I know, but it is nice to get feedback on your plans sometimes, because you might not consider some options that might be better in your situation.

[earnest condor]

Better is subjective though.

[primal fable]

I was just looking at that - I cannot see what it is, yet, but I guess it makes sense.

Thank you.

[earnest condor]

👍

I wish they had not, but here we are.

[primal fable]

It seems a bit far, i think it could have been great in Phase 2, not Phase 3, but oh well.

[earnest condor]

I don't think it should exist at all, so we are in disagreement there 😂

[vague breach]

It is, however I can make that judgement for myself after getting the feedback right?

[broken star]

is there a list to see how many points a item give in the recycler?

[earnest condor]

True.

[normal orbit]

its just a small time saver tbh. and those of us who cares about aesthetics arent useing it much anyway

[earnest condor]

!wikisearch Awesome Sink

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Awesome+Sink

[broken star]

thanks

[normal orbit]

clipping a power nub into the machines power nub have always been a pretty easy thing to do

[vague breach]

So got any thoughts on my plans? Or did I not give enough detail for that?

[normal orbit]

it just removes the effort of placing down walls and power nubs

[earnest condor]

🖇️

[white dawn]

You can already daisy-chain right now, and have been able to for years. Just requires a bit of creativity with blueprints:

1. Place building in blueprinter
2. Use beams (or whatever) to "embed" a wall socket into the machine
3. Dismantle beams
4. Hook machine up to socket
5. Save blueprint
6. profit

I've been daisychaining machines on vanilla (without mods) for quite awhile now

[earnest condor]

I mean, if not on 1.2 I see no reason to automate Project Parts.
Other than that no issues.

[primal fable]

Great ideas apocalyptech

[white dawn]

And for a contrary opinion: I still don't understand why someone wouldn't automate project parts, all the way back to the first time "real" project parts were added to the game. :D I've yet to do a playthrough where I haven't fully automated project parts

Great coupon-creators if nothing else. :D

[worn oar]

Sevrahn claims to have never automated them fully

[white dawn]

I mean Sev's not the only one; it's a not-uncommon opinion about not automating them

[earnest condor]

Pre-1.2

[green fiber]

might be different now that hes doing a 10x elevator part run

[vague breach]

Why would 1.2 change that? I'm not fully up to date to all its new features.

Also why not? How else could I be able to 1500 versatile framework for phase 3, without doing a lot of manual movements?

[earnest condor]

I'm on 100x, you have to.

[white dawn]

And since you do only need a specific set amount of them to "finish" the game, it's easy enough to just "hand-feed" via storage containers

[green fiber]

oh 100x.
Hell

[white dawn]

But still: why deprive yourself of the enjoyment of Making Another Factory? :)

[earnest condor]

Take needed materials, put into containers, attach to overclocked and fully somered machine. Let run.
Cuts your material cost by up to 16x depending on which Phase you are in.

[sour brook]

i remember one time that i did a lot of smart plating and automated wiring, having like idk, 9000 of each one? so i stopped to automate those because i wont need that much after that

[latent prawn]

5x power/100x elevator is fun

[elfin smelt]

I mean you can always keep sinking them

[earnest condor]

Being on 100x I truly believe 50x is the "sweet spot."

[ancient temple]

hi, im new to satisfactory is there any tips i could find in this discord?

[normal orbit]

ye, its why i'm doing 50x :)

[white dawn]

But still, the elevator parts even on the "vanilla" Elevator costs are still (among) the most complex parts in the game. Well worth the fun of building a factory to support their production, IMO. :)

[earnest condor]

Do you want my standard new player advice?

[latent prawn]

i think so too, there's a lull at the end of each phase where you are waiting on 100x

[sour brook]

build with foundations always

[green fiber]

standard advise: "go play the game and dont use discord for now"
You get spoiled a lot if you ask for tips here

[sour brook]

one of the first thing you need to be used to is build with foundations everything so they look organized

[earnest condor]

It's too late for me now 😭
I'm in Phase 3. I have to get through it.

[white dawn]

(Not only spoiled, but you'll also be blasted with like a dozen passionate but conflicting opinions about how to do things. :)

[normal orbit]

you could change it :p

[earnest condor]

I don't think it lets you change it mid-run?

[elfin smelt]

I'll say teaching some of the useful controls like zoop/vertical and middle click are always welcome

[normal orbit]

in game no. but scim has the ability

[earnest condor]

Cheating 😛

[elfin smelt]

I took me some several hours when I started playing before I discorved the middle click to sample bulding, I wish learned earlier

[earnest condor]

That being said I do gift myself 1 of every Depot item so I can put them in order 😂

[eager glen]

I'd say get as far as you can working it out yourself first. I got to mid phase 3 without placing a single building on a foundation somehow but that's the fun of learning by doing.

[wild phoenix]

Middle click?

[normal orbit]

oh em gee, big cheater

[earnest condor]

oh en gee eff arr eff arr

[elfin smelt]

aka MB3, middle button, scroll button etc

for PC ofc

[wild phoenix]

Yep but what does it do?

Like what middle click trick 😭

[earnest condor]

Eyedropper

[normal orbit]

it copies whatever you click

[earnest condor]

Copies building and all settings including shards.

[elfin smelt]

sample building, it copies the build you are looking and puts into into building mode to create another one

[sour brook]

copy the building with the recipe and settings

[normal orbit]

and copies recipes and colors and overclocks

[elfin smelt]

very, very useful

[wild phoenix]

Well this is fucking useful

[sour brook]

for example you do a smelter with iron ingots, so use middle click and put next to the smelter, and you will have 2 with the same settings

[elfin smelt]

yeah it copies all configs and colors

[earnest condor]

For more example if you're doing sushi and have a lot of specific splitter settings 😏 middle click goated.

[elfin smelt]

this kind of QoL functions are what I think it's always welcome for new players when asking for advice, just being sure to not overwhelm them of course

[earnest condor]

In this week's edition of "QoL: Can it go too far?" we dive into daisy-chaining.
😛😏

[fierce granite]

i preferred when the middle click just copied the building but nothing else

[normal orbit]

i dont, the effort of pressing Q and select it again is nothing

[earnest condor]

Eyedropper was a great addition.

Copying hundreds of smart splitters and all their settings 😭

[fierce granite]

building a factory with multiple recipes that used the same machine, allowed to just middle click on any building and place it, when stuff was all connected up to power afterwards, could easily see what building i missed coming back to to set the recipe

[earnest condor]

Wait, you don't build a physical hotbar on location of blank machines that you use when building so you can just copy them up?

[fierce granite]

i do, but when moving around, if the mouse is passing over a machine of the same type, it is quicker to just hit the middle click instead of reaching for the number on the keyboard

[earnest condor]

No no.

If reaching on keyboard that is your digital hotbar.

I'm saying like, to the side of your build area, build 1 of each machine.

Physical hotbar so you never have to reach.

Look, click, build.

[fierce granite]

oh, actually build the buildings, on the side, then no

[earnest condor]

Yeah, those are all my "blank" ones.

[normal orbit]

this is the way

[earnest condor]

Copy in. Set actual setting for specific row, eyedropper those.

When in new section, copy from blank hotbar.

Ensures I am not copying the wrong recipe in because the first one is always blank.

And it does what you alluded to in that if I messed up, and entire row will be red because no recipe.

[fierce granite]

last factory i created, i think i just skipped all recipes until it was time to turn it on, so that way i didn't accidently copy and get a wrong recipe

[earnest condor]

Valid.

[normal orbit]

whatever method works for you :)

[gleaming wasp]

how does time work in satis?

because the day cycle is like half an hour

[earnest condor]

50 minutes iirc.

[gleaming wasp]

but 1 satisfactory second = 1 earth second because all of the machines have their rates measured in seconds

[earnest condor]

30 day 20 night
Wiki has the details if I am wrong.

[gleaming wasp]

and all the fuel items have joules and that would only translate to wattage correctly if 1 satis second = 1 earth second

so does the planet just have a really fast rotation speed?

[earnest condor]

Wait, found it.

The duration of one day in Satisfactory is 50 minutes, consisting of a 45-min daytime and 5-min nighttime.

[gleaming wasp]

the nighttime feels way longer icl

[earnest condor]

It's a game. It ain't that deep.

[leaden turret]

binary star system shenanigans.

[earnest condor]

Some of the planetoids in the sky box would rip the actual planet up.
But they are there because they look pretty. Not for realism.

[gleaming wasp]

good answer

[leaden turret]

do you remember if [alec baldwin voice] that's no moon, but the other sun?

[earnest condor]

No. It's a space station.

[gleaming wasp]

they should add a function where every time you use a machine that would realistically produce air pollution it increases an invisible variable by a small amount

and if it gets high enough you start taking damage

and eventually it gets so bad that you immediately die as soon as you spawn in and you have to delete your save

[leaden turret]

that's called "nuclear power"

[gleaming wasp]

oh yeah also resource nodes are finite so you have to be efficient with what you use or else you literally can't finish the game

[white dawn]

They've said in the past that environmental pollution and such isn't necessarily off the table, but they've definitely not had it in their sights. For that kind of stuff you're almost certainly going to have to use mods

[gleaming wasp]

might make for an interesting game mode

[white dawn]

So basically you want a fundamentally different game. :)

[gleaming wasp]

i mean yeah it was a joke because pretty much EVERY building would produce air pollution

you cannot create an environmentally sustainable factory at any point in the game

[leaden turret]

given there's no base defense (and last I checked, there was no base defense mod so if that's still the case, nobody wants base defense badly enough to make a mod), air polution would largely be a factory maintenance issue and/or a health issue

given they've also said they don't wanna do factory maintenance, that just leaves a health issue, for which we have fart clouds as a mechanic already, solved by "wear a gas mask"

so what you want is your factory to fart

[gleaming wasp]

yeah

make literally every single building make a byproduct of a gaseous substance that you gotta transport via pipelines

and you have to lead to a new "chimney" building that cannot be placed in an enclosed space

[leaden turret]

don't need a new chimney building, we already have (decorative) vents

[sturdy jacinth]

hey how did i used to unlock all alt recipes? is the setting gone in the new experimental / are there alternatives?

[white dawn]

If you don't want to scan hard drives, your options are:

1. Enable Advanced Game Settings (called "Creative Mode" on the forthcoming v1.2, or in Experimental branch). There's options in there for unlocking alt recipes
2. On PC, you can upload your save to SCIM (https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map) to unlock recipes that way

[sturdy jacinth]

oh! thank you!!!!

[quick hound]

what do I do if I ate all the hard drives I came across?

[green fiber]

spit em out

[quick hound]

uhhh… I ate them like a week ago

[leaden turret]

storage measured in bytes

not bites.

[leaden turret]

poop 'em out

[green fiber]

well then time travel silly

[quick hound]

instructions were unclear

[quick hound]

I would.. but I kinda crapped off the waterfall..

[quick hound]

my lizard doggo thinks he’s a cat

[inland notch]

for an average playthrough, how many high speed connectors / min is enough for just storage?

like just a simple factory making them just to store for generators, power poles and such

[earnest condor]

One.

[inland notch]

just?

I was thinking like 15 or 25

[earnest condor]

You said average.

15 and 25 are both very good targets.

I usually have 90.

Average player spams mk2 power poles.
So they don't need a lot in the "per minute" column because they won't be consistently needing them.

[inland notch]

yeah I usually just daisy chain mk1 plugs tbh

that way its cleaner anyway

[earnest condor]

Exactly.
So you don't need high production.

15 is a good strong number if you need a preference between the 2 options.

[inland notch]

right, thx!

[wild phoenix]

Finally got oil 🔥

It’s so convenient

I can make everything I need rn off of one pure node

Only downside is it’s far away

[earnest condor]

And more power!

[worn oar]

0? I use mk2 for everything

[inland notch]

well they have other uses idk like the drone ports and stuff

[wild phoenix]

Well yeah but I haven’t got that quite yet

[inland notch]

this is my first playthrough so I kinda wanna see everything btw

even if its not optimal I wanna try it

[earnest condor]

? You have "more power from oil" immediately.

[wild phoenix]

I went oil-> packing and hopped off for the day

[earnest condor]

Ok. But you have "more power from oil" immediately on unlock.

[wild phoenix]

I only need to connect my fuel to my packager to the dimensional depot tmrw

[wild phoenix]

Fuel yes

[earnest condor]

Did I say Fuel?

[wild phoenix]

But not the thing to put it in

[abstract heron]

are my hrs good 19,718 hrs on record TOTAL and 5,870hrs in my world are they?

[earnest condor]

You don't need Fuel Gens for "more power from oil."

[raven axle]

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @wild phoenix

[inland notch]

what

im trying to think abt how you would make power with oil without fuel lmao

[earnest condor]

Standard initial oil setup:
300 oil -> x5 Rubber, x5 Plastic giving you 100/min of each.
Byproduct HOR -> Coke
Feeds 18 Coal Gens, which produce more power than the system costs to run.

[inland notch]

ohhhhh coke

[earnest condor]

No alternates required.
No additional unlocks required.

[wild phoenix]

Ooh

[earnest condor]

The intended "look at what else you can do with byproducts" lesson the game is trying to teach you and will expect you to know later on.

[wild phoenix]

I meant this #screenshots message

Oh and I also have the conveyors

[earnest condor]

The intention is that you get oil and set it up before further unlocks.
That's why the pod is going for like 15 whole minutes.

[wild phoenix]

Forgot abt those

[wild phoenix]

I sent it off then went to go find oil, got distracted, wandered off, built oil factory, ran out, returned, got packing, set that up also but not quite then hopped of

ADHD goes brr sometimes

[earnest condor]

Which is fair. And many people sit and wait for Fuel Gens before setting it up at all.

I am not saying you did anything wrong.

[wild phoenix]

I shall have them soon

[earnest condor]

Just that, looking at what byproducts can actually be used for instead of sinking/wasting is the point of Phase 3.

Because once you hit Phase 4 most things have byproduct and "OMG WHAT DO I DO?" is just... "Hey, they game literally just taught you how to handle this...?"

[abstract heron]

are my hrs good

[wet iris]

what does that even mean 😭

it's not any better or worse than someone with 400 hours or 1200 or 100,000. as long as you're having fun spending those hours, it's good

[abstract heron]

I meant like do i need to keep playing?

[wet iris]

I genuinely don't understand. do you play the game to gain enjoyment from building factories and experience the story or to see a single number go up?

[worn oar]

Can you stop bragging every day please

[charred spire]

it is not a competition bro 😭

[leaden turret]

you stop playing when you stop having fun

[abstract heron]

iok but people might want to know about my hrs and i already have a few people saying about when i reach 20k hrs

[rough crest]

id like to know what you do in 5k hours as well

[worn oar]

You should take some pictures of your factory at 20,000 hours and share them in #screenshots . I bet you have something neat to share

[wet iris]

bro I just did a from:leothelion9 search and this shit isn't real

[abstract heron]

maybe if i ever finishing my nuclear pasta of 200-400 per minute

[rough crest]

400 nuclear pasta/min is impossible...

[abstract heron]

I have to redo my refeinrys my fps was tanking so i am doing fully power sharding most of everything now

[charred spire]

yooo what? I'm happy with my current 2 pasta per minute

[worn oar]

Through the power of sloops all things are possible...

[abstract heron]

Extra ore with mods and such

[worn oar]

Or miner upgrade mods

[rough crest]

no in the base game its pretty much impossible i have the calculator open

[worn oar]

Alright you have me curious now I'm checking

[rough crest]

120 nuclear pasta/min uses all the SAM in the world

[dense violet]

tons of fiddly design work for me !

[rough crest]

thats it you can sloop that a bit

[rough crest]

also all the bauxite in the world so no more aluminum

[wet iris]

it has to be mods, right?

they confirmed it too

[rough crest]

not to mention that you need to place stuff like 3840 refineries of pure copper....

which is not impossible cause tonight alone i placed 192...

[abstract heron]

I am using mods atm

[wet iris]

with 5k hours in the same world it's believable

[rough crest]

i think i can capture every single node in the world in like another 300 hours in my current world 5k is ridiculous numbers

i dont think you understand how much time it is guys

[worn oar]

Yes impossible without sloops

[neat marlin]

I never realised how deep satisfactories story goes

its beyond "Save the puppies" lmao

and wayyyy beyond just building factories with some corporate overlord

[earnest condor]

?

[worn oar]

It's shallow with deep themes

[wet iris]

I was honestly deeply underwhelmed with how the story progresses

all the cool voice lines you hear whenever you interact with alien tech should have been more meaningful imo

[green fiber]

they had plans but feared they couldnt pull it off / it wouldnt land well so they dialed it back

[wet iris]

fair reason, better to wait until you have it panned out instead of half assing it

I still love the game though, I just don't play it for the story

[green fiber]

well they already had all the deep stuff planned and figured out apparently.
they just thought it to be too much

[latent prawn]

well, without the crab boss, there isn't much of a climax, lol

[wet iris]

there's a crab boss 😭

[green fiber]

there was one in an old trailer

[wet iris]

could be fun, but I don't think combat would be fun in this game

[latent prawn]

in the near original E3 trailer, there was a shot of the thing for like a 1/2 second

[wet iris]

I think satisfactory is the most fun I've had with movement

and it's not even close

[latent prawn]

yeah, you move really nicely in this game

[wet iris]

I honestly thought it was a source game at first when I saw how good the bhops and slides are

[latent prawn]

what i find funny is how people are always asking for better means of transport in the game. when you get good with the slide jump & game physics, you can cover a lot of ground with much less work

[wet iris]

ifkr!

I never even built the buggy or trucks or any personell Transport

[latent prawn]

it has a use as supplemental inventory when exploring in the early game

[wet iris]

oh right, fair enough

I genuinely find it more fun to zipline and slide back to the hub everytime I need something more or need to deposit shit

[latent prawn]

yeah, not enough people realize how much fun zipping on normal power poles is

[wet iris]

I'm surprised to see this game isn't speedrun as much

like there aren't any glitched speedruns?

[latent prawn]

there are, for a while it was all the rage in the update7 timeframe. google '007 glitch'

[wet iris]

yoooo thanks

ima watch this video

a time reduction from 17 hours down to 4 hours is CRAZY

in portal speed running we are excited when a new glitch or setup saves a single second

[compact knot]

@wet iris https://www.speedrun.com/satisfactory?h=5package-1-1-solo-nmg&x=mkemm5x2-kn0zgoo8.le2g8rml-kn0kov78.q5v57zvl-ylpqopv8.10vv0rol

to fast for my taste lol

[sharp compass]

anyone have a list of items for a centralized storage system? idk online all i see are designs or pre 1.0 lists anyone have an updated one? it would be greatly appreciated

[dense violet]

basically 1.0 plus maybe a handful of tier 9 items that use buildings. Just scan through real quick

[hollow onyx]

Anybody know why my game takes forever to get to main menu, and when it does it’s very low fps till it suddenly goes normal

[supple canopy]

what I do is go on the AWESOME Sink wiki page and note all items I'll need for storage
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/AWESOME_Sink

[spiral monolith]

is it just me or when you hold tools in satisfactory do they slightly buzz in your hand

and shake a little

[mortal ginkgo]

yep, they do

little dem rascals might I add

think it is fixed in 1.2 I dont see that happening anymore

[spiral monolith]

i have 150 hours and im just noticing it😶‍🌫️

[spiral monolith]

the tools?

[mortal ginkgo]

you asked for that, so I am talking about them brotherman of century

[spiral monolith]

my bad that was a kinda stupid question i asked

[minor rock]

AI would have fixed that before making it into the game, but I digress

[wet moon]

Why do you keep coming back

[minor rock]

Arch said we'd get an AI assistant implemented in game on June 2nd, he promised. So i'm hyping everyone up 😎

[supple rain]

hello Impure Limestone Node, may I place a mk.3 miner atop you, so that I may overclock it to get 300 limestone per minute, to put towards my steel factory?

I thought I was in the factorio server for a minute and I was like "oh a satisfactory player!" lmao

[earnest condor]

@wet moon trains are indeed fun.

[merry thunder]

is there a tab for suggestions to add to the game???

[dense violet]

there is a webpage though

[merry thunder]

oh really where is the webpage

[dense violet]

info is prob i nwelcome or rules

[merry thunder]

thanks

I have been playing now for about 2 months

I am really enjoying the game so far

[serene jolt]

How do I upload my save to the interactive map?

[white dawn]

There's a button in the upper-right-ish

[serene jolt]

Do I have to find the file somewhere or does it do that for me?

[serene jolt]

cough ADA cough

[wet moon]

Is there any simple way to de-crowd a certain track? Afaik the trains will always take the shortest route so building other tracks will have no effect right?

[earnest condor]

Correct.

Unless, on the new rail, you create a train station and force some of them to stop through it on their normal route.

[wet moon]

Hmm

Because im having the issue that there are so many branches to my main railway that trains going long distances on it are averaging way below 100kph

[earnest condor]

Train speed isn't exactly relevant, throughput is what matters.

And in that regard, faster trains usually have lower throughput potential.

[wet moon]

Huh, how, faster trains means more loads per unit time

[earnest condor]

?

[wet moon]

And its overall just too crowded, i have 30 trains now, all of which have the same segment of track that the share whivh causes freqent traffic jams

[earnest condor]

I have no idea what "loads per unit time" means.

As the person who wrote all the math on the throughput wiki page.

[wet moon]

1 cargo container train = 1 load, if my train goes 100kph average on a specific route, it gets twice as much throuput as a train averaging 50 kph

[dense violet]

look up where your save files are , info in welcome or rules

[serene jolt]

Ok

[earnest condor]

That.. is not how throughput is solved.

[wet moon]

Then how? What othet factors?

[earnest condor]

Baseline question: What stops trains from being able to fully push 2 belts of throughput?

[wet moon]

Push 2 belts? Idk what you mean

[earnest condor]

How many input/output belts does the Freight Platform have?

[wet moon]

2, i know that

[earnest condor]

So what would potentially be the highest throughput of a single platform, given it has only 2 belts?

Answer: 2 belts.

[wet moon]

But what are you getting at, other than average speed what else affects how much a train can move

[earnest condor]

Lockout.

[wet moon]

Dont know definition of that term in satisfactory context

[earnest condor]

Lockout is the main, daresay only, thing that affects how much they can move.

[earnest condor]

What happens to the input/output belts when the train is loading/unloading?

[wet moon]

Ohh yeah they stop

[earnest condor]

Lockout, yes.

So, back to the top-

Baseline question: What stops trains from being able to fully push 2 belts of throughput?
Lockout.

Next question:
What would cause a train to have more lockouts in a given period of time?
-Going faster.

[wet moon]

Ok but for me thats not the bottle neck on my stations yet (also that can be negated by having buffer right outside platform), my issue is that even though every train going back and forth is completely full, they are unable to move everything being extracted to where its needed because they are caught in constant traffic jams near the core

[earnest condor]

Would say your core needs a redesign, but I have no visual of it 😭

[dense violet]

yeah really would have to see it.
Honestly if you have 2 lanes and just some branches going here and there you really shouldn't be having throughput issues

[wet moon]

Im considering making shortcut routes, and intentionally making paths to the core longer, so any train not going to a station in the core just flies by at top speed

[dense violet]

that really sounds like you have some core design issues

[earnest condor]

Oh, yeah. All train stop should be off the main path so they are never the shortest route.

[wet moon]

Yeah well, natural growth before realising what i need causes that

[dense violet]

do you have 2 lanes like a road?

[wet moon]

Yep

[earnest condor]

Can you give a SCIM map screenshot so we can see the network?

[dense violet]

ok probably time to make overhead images of your set up and some sketches in a #1038092680493801533

[flat rain]

How far apart do you guys put train signals? I was doing enough to fit 5 cars but maybe that’s to often

[dense violet]

that would also help in the post

[earnest condor]

Depends on number of trains on a network.

[wet moon]

And every station is a branch so no train who doesnt need to stop there doesnt go through a station

[earnest condor]

Yes but I don't go to that channel 🙁

[thick river]

is it better to have multiple train networks or to have one large train network?

[dense violet]

sure but it's much easier to trouble shoot a thread

[earnest condor]

No.

[dense violet]

yeah make a post with info

[wet moon]

Lol which one, not "no"

[earnest condor]

Neither is better.
Neither is worse.
There is no correct answer.

[wet moon]

Alright, il do it tonight

[earnest condor]

Ergo -- no.

[thick river]

ok fair enough ig

[earnest condor]

Both of them achieve the exact same goal of moving your stuff around.
So it entirely boils down to which method you, personally, prefer.

[quick hound]

Hey guys, so I’ve been smacking my portal with this bat thing and it’s sparking and shit. Do you think it’ll still work?

[dense violet]

I'd probably say its likely simpler to just have 1 network

that could be 'better' for you

[earnest condor]

I would say the exact opposite 😄

Not having 1 network means you have zero "core" problems 🙂

[dense violet]

core problems are pretty simple to avoid with some basic experience.

[earnest condor]

Also is stuff needs to go from A to B, there is no reason for that rail to connect to C.

[dense violet]

no but multiple networks could see repeat infrastructure. And if you have main paths connected it's easier to get to new places . But that's why I said it's 'likely' to be simpler

[earnest condor]

Also having separate networks usually means you never have to touch signals.

[dense violet]

eh sure. Like for example if you have 2 small networks on oppostie sides of the map and have no need for trains to cross? sure it's not simpler at that point

no real reason to connect it

[earnest condor]

It's NOT simpler?

You mean it is simple AF?

[dense violet]

... are we talking about the 2 small networks on either side here? yeah sure it's simpler to not connect them if you don't have a need

[earnest condor]

no need for trains to cross? sure it's not simpler at that point
Which mean the "not simpler" needs to just say "simpler" and remove the "not"

Because it is simpler to just keep them separate.

[quick hound]

Hey guys, so I’ve been smacking my portal with this bat thing and it’s sparking and shit. Do you think it’ll still work?

[earnest condor]

"Small" netowrks 😄 When we running a train from DD to RD

[wet moon]

#screenshots message

Schematic of my core area, all the track junctions allow trains to go in any direction, i just didnt draw it because im in a car and cant keep my hand steady enough

Yellow is stations

[dense violet]

there really shouldn't be issues with this. Do you have many trains stopping at the same station blocking paths?

[earnest condor]

I.. don't like that shape, personally.

But one way to fix congestion is see where you can trade "more trains" for "fewer, longer trains" that move the same amount of stuff.

[dense violet]

sure but there's nothing wrong with the layout

[earnest condor]

Yes.

[urban sinew]

Quick question, my iron rods weren't keeping up with my screws + my modular frames, but then I remembered I had the alt recipe for steel rods, so I just threw a bunch of constructors on the floor above the iron rod constructors and partitioned it off into the belts that were running out, if iron and steel rods mix together do they just merge in a recipe? Or should I use iron rods for one belt and steel for the other

[dense violet]

they are the same item

[earnest condor]

Iron Rod is the actual item.
Steel Rod is just a recipe name for making Iron Rods.

[dense violet]

as long as you have the throughput no dif

[urban sinew]

Oh good that makes things simple then

[quick hound]

Damn… everyone ignoring me today..

[dense violet]

You can't damage structures in the game

[earnest condor]

Exactly.

@wet moon if you have any routes that have multiple trains on them, definitely see if you can have less trains with more cars.
Will cut down congestion without needing redesign.

[quick hound]

then why is it sparking and shit?

[dense violet]

animations?

if you use it you could answer your question much faster

[quick hound]

oh, the electricity thing was having a stroke on the back of it lmao

That’s why it was sparking. I thought I smashed it or sum shit

[worthy python]

So if I have 600 iron or per men

How maby smelterys i need

[normal trench]

[earnest condor]

There is no specific answer to that question.

[normal trench]

Quite a intelligent specimen we have here

[earnest condor]

Because it varies wildly based on how you clock them.

[worthy python]

To make iron how many smetorys we need

[earnest condor]

Are you in the game right now?

[normal trench]

What recipe?

[worthy python]

Normal i gess

[worthy python]

Is there a better one

[earnest condor]

Are you in the game right now?

[normal trench]

Yes

[worthy python]

Have 10 extarors make it 60 per one

[worthy python]

Yes

[normal trench]

For normal clocks and recipe, just divide by thirty

[wraith magnet]

Hi why does my power have a pattern of constantly going from 375mw production to 525mw production in a loop

[normal trench]

600/30 is 20

[earnest condor]

Press N.
Type "Iron Ingot"
The very first entry tells you how many 1 Smelter takes.
600 divided by that number = how many you need.

[normal trench]

Where are you in the game?

Like phase

[worthy python]

What resepy

[wraith magnet]

I have completed all milestones and currently farming materials to complete phase two I’m I have coal power

[normal trench]

Depends on the situation

[wraith magnet]

Well all milestones I can do up until this point

[normal trench]

Ohh ur produced power

[worthy python]

Hmm

I've got\nThe one with water and the one without water , just or itself

[normal trench]

It’s either coal or water

[worthy python]

Sor.\nRy was using voice to text

[normal trench]

Check which ones you are missing

[wraith magnet]

The problem is when it dips sometimes it goes below usage causing a power offline which is a problem

[normal trench]

Im sorry, what is your profile

[worthy python]

3?

[normal trench]

Yeahhh, its either due to not enough coal or not enough water

Or piping issues

If you have enough water and coal, I’d add a buffer before you put the water into the generators

It can help flow issues

[wraith magnet]

I have slugs in my coal power plants maybe I haven’t giving extra water for all that more power it’s using

[normal trench]

Where are you situated?

[wraith magnet]

I have 4 coal power plants 3 atop a mountain and then one inside a cave I use the fifth for steel production

[normal trench]

Yeah theres a issue

[wraith magnet]

Desert but some parts are in the grass

[normal trench]

Which desert

Rocky or dune

[worn oar]

Would you guys go down primarily dark ranger enhancements or the tempest tree for a TWF ranger focused on trapping and melee DPS?

[wraith magnet]

Coordinates -1759 -338

[normal trench]

Wrong server

[normal trench]

Idk cordinates

[wraith magnet]

Okay uh

[normal trench]

Is it super beachy with palm trees

[wraith magnet]

Yeah I guess

The blue palm trees?

[normal trench]

Idk

Im forgetful

Are you in top left or top right

[wraith magnet]

Is there anyway I can see my biome ?

[normal trench]

Is it your starting location

[wraith magnet]

Yeah I didn’t go far from where I spawned

[normal trench]

Dont do that though

[normal trench]

Yeah ur likely in rocky desert

[wraith magnet]

What did I do

[normal trench]

Group up your power

Have one power plant producing it

[wraith magnet]

I was just using that one as extra power because was close

[normal trench]

Then send it throughout the map

[wraith magnet]

Wait but then wouldn’t I get less power if I use just one

[normal trench]

Anyways, are you in the game rnow

[wraith magnet]

Yes I am

[normal trench]

Nope, it’s the same power per machine

Each machine gives 75 always

[wraith magnet]

So now matter how many coal mines I have it doesn’t matter

Because I build them for each coal deposit

[normal trench]

Coal allows you to fuel more machines

[worn oar]

Has anyone tried a playthrough where they take as long as possible to finish without intentionally sabotaging themselves? E.g. choosing not to use blueprints, building out full infrastructure instead of hasty spaghetti, overbuilding production of items, decorating, exploring etc. Thinking it might be fun...

[normal trench]

Basically group up coal and make a array of generators

[normal trench]

Huh? I always use blueprints

Im in phase three right now and am building out my infastructure

[wraith magnet]

How many generators can one coal deposit power

[normal trench]

Depends, I think a generator takes 15, but the purity matters

A pure Mk 1 miner makes 120

[wraith magnet]

So say there were two coal deposits on the scanner 600m away in opposite directions you would only use one not both

[normal trench]

Yes

[wraith magnet]

How is more not better I don’t understand

[normal trench]

You don’t need that much coal power to beat phase two

Simplifying where everything is matters

[worn oar]

It is better, but decide whether you need that power right now or not

[normal trench]

Having multiple power plants is super complex

[wraith magnet]

Ohh

[normal trench]

I typically find one spot with two normal nodes near water

[worn oar]

This is very much a game that tries to teach you that you don't have to be perfect or play in an optimal way

[wraith magnet]

But like I feel like I’m building too much I did delete my whole base and rebuild it like 3 days ago

[normal trench]

That happens

A lot

[worn oar]

That's common, but not required. There are more than enough nodes

[wraith magnet]

It’s much more spacious and I I squeezed them into sections and building buildings now it looks much nicer

[normal trench]

About your issue in the beginning, the generators arent receiving enough water

[wraith magnet]

Okay I’ll go check all four

[wraith magnet]

I got copper and iron like 1000m out and I have them conveying it all the way to my hud

[normal trench]

If I were you, I would try to find a spot with two coal nodes, ideally pure but normal works to, because overclocking miners, and make sure water is nearby

[normal trench]

Thats a weird way to do it

[wraith magnet]

My coal is on top of a mountain it takes like 5mkn of driving to get up it and then my other coal is to my right through a cave

[normal trench]

If it works it works

[wraith magnet]

I knew something felt weird about it but I did it anyway

[normal trench]

In the beginning i find a spot with like two pure iron and one pure copper and whatever limestone nearby

I kinda situate there for two phases

[wraith magnet]

That’s exactly what I did

There was 2 limestone 2 iron 1 copper

[normal trench]

Yeah the stretching the conveyor seems weird

Idk

[wraith magnet]

I may convert it into a seperate factory all the way out at the deposit instead

It was very expensive in iron plates but I had so many

[worn oar]

The belt spaghetti must flow :D #screenshots message

[normal trench]

I’d build up some light infrastructure between the areas

[normal trench]

Why would you do this

[wraith magnet]

Like what?

[worn oar]

Because I can, and for no other reason.

[wraith magnet]

Is that spread across the entire map?

[normal trench]

Highways and trains

No trains yet though

[worn oar]

Sort of. I didn't actually need the whole map. Especially the desert is untouched. The power towers were to help with exploration

[wraith magnet]

Is there like actual roads

[wraith magnet]

That musta taken ages

[normal trench]

You build them, there is a material for foundations called asphalt

[wraith magnet]

I was hoping there was something better than that

[worn oar]

Surprisingly no, only 61 hours 50 minutes

[normal trench]

It works great

[wraith magnet]

I have a little road through the centre

[normal trench]

Im building up infastructure over the next few days

[wraith magnet]

You can’t make curved roads and it annoys me

That’s the only problem I have with it

[normal trench]

No you can

[wraith magnet]

How

[normal trench]

It’s complicated and requires clipping

But you can

[wraith magnet]

Dang

[normal trench]

People have made circular towers

[earnest condor]

There's a littany of YT videos on how to make curved roads.

[wraith magnet]

What about the sink store awesome store

[wraith magnet]

I am on PlayStation will it still work

[west jackal]

When the game updates to 1.2, will i have to repath all vehicles or will they automatically fix?

[earnest condor]

Yes, because the good ones are vanilla and don't require mods.

[normal trench]

They automatically

It creates a legacy path when you update

[worn oar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1siy5tq/360_road_blueprints/

[earnest condor]

Your current paths will still work but they won't be able to be added to the way others on the new system allow.

[wraith magnet]

Oh my god blueprints I forgot about them

[earnest condor]

I should say most will still work.
Depends on if you did any of the fun stuff I did.

[normal trench]

DONT

they are the reason this game is playable later on

[raven grotto]

i havent played in almost 6 hours... im itching to grow my factory

[white dawn]

Some frequently-linked-to videos about building curves, btw:

Wan 3.0: https://youtu.be/8Jxfy2_Iw6U
Wan Curve: https://youtu.be/i5qnl0PzkXE
Any-size Circles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI3ZM4Zzhqs
KyloBuilds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLwyyYpe0c4
Foundations following rails: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9V0fQPq3Xo