satisfactory

[raven grotto]

and do they give me more connection points I assume

[frosty sedge]

Mam caterium tree

From 4 to 7

[normal orbit]

they do

[raven grotto]

oh my god I be needing that rn

[frosty sedge]

It's an insane buff

[ebon marten]

just wait till 1.2 comes out then youll be able to get daisy chaining

[normal orbit]

all you need is to find some caterium

[raven grotto]

wym?

[feral drum]

june 2nd i think

[frosty sedge]

It's where instead of needing poles u can connect machines to other powerd machines

[raven grotto]

oh whattttt fire

[ebon marten]

yup

[feral drum]

was a common mod too

[raven grotto]

will be nice for management because i hate my wire spaghetti

[sullen gull]

Hide wires through the machines and into the floor 😏

[raven grotto]

now my conveyor spaghetti

[raven grotto]

using outlets correct?

[ebon marten]

you can get wall connectors in the shop

[earnest condor]

Why are we hiding wires? 😭

[raven grotto]

i have them but im too lazy to stop everything and put the wires through the floor right now

[frosty sedge]

Ngl I kinda enjoy the spaghetti it makes the factory feel cooler

[raven grotto]

wires are ugly and make me not want to look at my beautiful machinery

[sullen gull]

Bllueeeprint ... 😏

[earnest condor]

Sounds like you built your wires in an ugly way and should address that?

[frosty sedge]

Remember he's got mk 1 power poles so it must suck

[white dawn]

I use almost nothing but mk1 poles/sockets, even throughout lategame

[earnest condor]

What's next? Completely hidden belts on logistics floors because people can't take the time to organize belts?

😭 Oh wait... people already do that for that exact reason... 😭

[white dawn]

I tend to essentially daisy-chain machines

[feral drum]

embrace the spaghetti /s

[frosty sedge]

Wait what why how

[white dawn]

(either one pole/socket per machine, right next to the machine, or literally embedding a socket onto the machine via blueprints)

[leaden turret]

wiring for factory already closed in box, why you need to hide wiring if you not in box

[earnest condor]

Oh, I think I have a shot for this.. one sec while I go through my photo folder.

[white dawn]

I mean basically what I said. Think "manifold" but with power. Generally fed from either the ceiling or the floor

[sullen gull]

I always hide my belts in a logistics floor. But they aren't spaghetti at all

[frosty sedge]

I mean fair enough for making it look smart but I could never not ay my level of factorys anyway

[earnest condor]

The entire draw of the game is watching stuff sail by on belts 😭

[white dawn]

But sometimes I'll have the power as part of structural elements around the machines

[sullen gull]

If ya say so 🤷‍♂️

[white dawn]

But regardless, yeah: each pole/socket rarely needs more than 3 connections. Two to transfer the power "along" the line of machines, and one to connect to the machines themselves

Obviously I do run into cases where I need a mk2, but I haven't really used mk3 ever since my first playthrough

[frosty sedge]

See I could never do that I'm not at the level of making a vertical factory so for me it's pointless

[white dawn]

Verticality's got nothing to do with it; I'll do that on open-air single-floor factories too

Even in Phase 1. Just, y'know, one pole next to each machine; string 'em along in a line

Obviously whether or not something like that meets your own aesthetic requirements is another question, of course. :D

[sullen gull]

The start of 128 goal gens: #screenshots message

[white dawn]

For my past few playthroughs I've most often been doing the blueprint-daisy-chain thing, though:

1. Put machine inside blueprinter
2. Use beams to "embed" a wall socket into the machine at a convenient spot
3. Dismantle beams
4. Hook the machine up to the socket
5. Save blueprint
6. profit!

[raven grotto]

yippe boutta buy me a new monitor and monitor arms

sure the monitor will take 10 days to get here but its 1440p 100hz 27 inch for 83 bucks

[white dawn]

Though yeah, that pic that Sev posted in #design-and-architecture is about it. :)

(Anyway, not trying to tell anyone not to use mk2/mk3, of course, just saying that it's quite easy to live without. For me they're not especially important upgrades)

[sullen gull]

But this water extractors no longer snapping to a wall is pissing me off 🙁

[leaden turret]

don't they still snap to underwater foundations?

[hexed island]

always kind of wondered, was there plans to allow placing plants where you wanted for asthetic reasons. or at least a mod that allowed you to do that

[sullen gull]

Maybe, but imo, that's a pain in the ass way to do it comparatively

[earnest condor]

You think FICSIT cares about plant life?

[hollow hemlock]

sure, as long as it's combustible

[hexed island]

hey, gotta have those holo-palm trees in the lobbys of buildings somewhere

[leaden turret]

March 17th, 2026
Q&A: Will we ever get more decorations themed around nature?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHBFMoNs7xY&t=4071

Literally, when you are in the drop pod on your way down to 2ABB, what Ada hammers into you is that we are going to exploit, we are going to wreck, we are going to build.

That's at least how you should interpret it.

And then you come down and you wreck.

The first thing you do is pick apart the planet stick by stick, leaf by

leaf.

[coarse sonnet]

I beat the game. What do I do now 😭

[leaden turret]

take what you learned and try again

[coarse sonnet]

It's my 7th playthrough 😂

I've made it to almost beating the game 7 times, this time I fully committed and now idk what to do.

[sullen gull]

Ahh, so just trollin a bit then 😏

[hexed island]

ah, so no plans for decorations. gotcha

[coarse sonnet]

There are mods to add decorations

[leaden turret]

I mean there's nothing that says FICSIT R&D can't produce schematics for plastic plants

[earnest condor]

How do you beat a sandbox that by definition has no end?

[leaden turret]

make a factory that can crash @grave burrow's machine

[earnest condor]

I don't know who that is.

[raven grotto]

well hope amazon renewed is good, says its refurbished excellet so ill se

[leaden turret]

the guy that makes save files that crash CSS machines

[compact swift]

Any tips on finding quartz mining spots? When I track down the locations from scanner I can't get to it.

[worn oar]

https://tenor.com/view/going-down-gif-7979542

[leaden turret]

will be in cave

[compact swift]

hmm but where is the entrance?

[normal orbit]

rocky desert?

[leaden turret]

entrance is by the water.

not saying which water cos that would spoil exploration 😛

[compact swift]

https://tenor.com/view/spoilers-pandorica-river-song-doctor-who-gif-18293417

[normal orbit]

if its rocky desert all are by water pretty much :p

[leaden turret]

point being that the sensor ping for the location is not by the water

[normal orbit]

actually the ones in grassy fields are by water too iirc

[leaden turret]

grassy fields is not rocky desert, so point is moot?

[feral drum]

and grassy fields is not southern forest too

[normal orbit]

they never said where

[leaden turret]

you used rocky desert as example

[lucid kayak]

I've got a weird issue, two of my constructors just stopped working for no apparent reason. I tried rewiring them, disconnecting them from power, and rebuilding them entirely. But they refuse to craft biomass using leaves as an input

I checked 4 times now to make sure it was only leaves on the conveyor belt, and that there was nothing infront just incase maybe that prevented production

I'm really lost here and cannot figure out what the issue is

[normal orbit]

did you use the correct biomass (leaves) recipe

[lucid kayak]

yup

[weary gate]

I wish there were smelters mk 2 & 3

@ devs work on this.

[lucid kayak]

I checked that twice now as well

they're not on standby either

[rich parrot]

Modz.

[weary gate]

Can't mod on xbox.

[leaden turret]

February 17th, 2026
Q&A: What about Mk.2 Buildings?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO_uubsn0Fw&t=7006

What about better versions of some buildings that require more resources to build but consume less energy?

Maybe unlocked by hard drives?

That is also a neat idea.

It kind of errs on the side of, at that point, honestly, why not just expand your plant anyway?

It's like you're solving the same issue from the opposite end.

Which, sure, I mean, if you just need to dump, if this could act as a dump to unlock stuff, maybe.

That's a neat idea, but yeah, not in the plans.

[leaden turret]

can mod on xbox.

can't mod satisfactory on xbox.

<@&370483737957236737> in case I forget to ask next dev stream; have fishlabs experimented with running the mod manager on console?

[stable linden]

is there a way to load + unload in train stations or is it just unload/load

[normal orbit]

same platform no, diffrent platforms yes

[leaden turret]

1. manually drive train
2. switch station to unload
3. switch station to load
4. repeat step 1
no.

might require reversing the train between steps 2 and 3

[stable linden]

if i add multiple stations could i

[rich parrot]

Yes. You could have every other vehicle in your train be a locomotive. Then you could place the stations back to back.

[normal orbit]

could just do separate platforms on same station

[leaden turret]

@earnest condor I've just had a terrible idea if you want something to poke holes in for giggles

[normal orbit]

set one to load, one to unload

[stable linden]

oh wait, thats actually a much better idea

kinda forgot i can have more then one storage cart😓

[leaden turret]

||make it so you can stick a train station at both ends and whether it loads or unloads depends on which end it's driving into ||

[worthy python]

pfff

[raven grotto]

ah man i need to start working on my space elevator soon

but im too lazyyyy to work on it

the factory must grow and the space elevator is not a priority

[wild phoenix]

Finally phase two 🔥

Ended up getting sloop ability and slooping the whole factory so I make 25 versatile frames per minute

[raven grotto]

hmmm do i have it so caterium takes a 1km fun ride via conveyor belt to my soon-to-be megafactory?

[swift cave]

I did it...fucking finally...
12 mod engines / min
4 ACUs (8 with slops)
22.5 versatile frames

now just need to wait and let the ACUs cook for phase 3 to be complete

(10x elevator requirements)

[raven grotto]

yo what materials do you guys use for walls and or floors

kinda getting sick of this ugly ahh yellow

[swift cave]

concrete floors are amazing BUT you need to use the Customizer patterns so they don't look boring

[raven grotto]

those paint patterns in the shop right like the forklift and hatching n such?

how do you use those like i kinda see ideas but they are very vauge to me

[latent prawn]

i'm on 100x elevator, and ended up doing 120 vf/min, 30 me/min, 6 acu/min... I helped the acu delivery along with sloops & some intelligent caching

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q="foundation patterns"

[raven grotto]

oh wow thanks!

[swift cave]

i just posted a screenshot in #screenshots ... to me it's just about picking your accent colors right and then using the patterns to break up the big solid blocks

[raven grotto]

oh ok i see, realistically I need to demolish most of my base down to the foundation and rebuild

its been an idea in the back of my mind and i think i will probably do it after phase 2 is done or while its going

[swift cave]

there's a lot that you can do much more easily with the phase 3 mk. II blueprints, I try to care very little about design and clipping and "great" blueprints until I get the mk. ii

even just having a 5x5 slab of 2m concrete foundations as a floor to work on that you can easily blueprint in and destroy makes a big difference

[raven grotto]

ill check but my slab i would have if i went down is pretty big

[lament tartan]

Would someone be willing to call with me so I can screen share I have a power problem that I'm really confused with

[abstract heron]

less than 300hrs to go 19,703 hrs on record

[woeful jewel]

hmm

thinking about covering the river with coal gens

[wild phoenix]

!wikisearch slooping

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=slooping

[neat marlin]

#screenshots wow, just finished my first mess of a coal power plant

somehow it is functioning

[young sentinel]

there is a random quartz node i'm unable to chip away, thus, preventing me from laying down water extractors.
#screenshots message

[worn oar]

Foundation next to it

[young sentinel]

?

[daring trout]

I’m tired of these hard drives messing with me

I’m about to spend hours strictly hard drive hunting

[young sentinel]

i have 102. now i'm waiting to clear some of tier 9 to get the rest.

i'm halfway done with phase 4

stage 4

whatever it is

[raven grotto]

yippe i just doubled my power production to is it 1.2GW? it didnt change from mw but thats my guess

anyway time to go have sum ribs 😋

[neat marlin]

If my flowrate is super low in my pipes, is that because I need a pump? or is it because there isn't enough water

[raven grotto]

can be both, or one or another

[neat marlin]

is there a way to tell? I have one water extractor going to 3 generators

I have the identical setup too, except that one is getting enough water and this one isnt

[raven grotto]

is the pipes going up high?

[neat marlin]

not really

its a slight incline

[raven grotto]

in the other one are they underclocked at all?

[neat marlin]

But I also do have pumps

how do I tell? sorry!

[raven grotto]

prolly not then if you dont know

is a little weird if they work perfectly on the other one though

but based off rates 1 isnt enough for 3 unless overclocked\

[young sentinel]

others on the steam community forums have complained about this very quartz node in the past. i was able to build around it. kinda.
#screenshots message
but it's not as neat and tidy as i would have liked.

[daring trout]

I want to get one specific recipe so I can move on with my life, but the MAM really wants me to have biocoal

[bitter basin]

I dont understand why you dont just mine it to get rid of it??? It takes all of 2 seconds guys

[dense nova]

how come im capped to 60fps on vulkan and dx12 but i get 300 fps on dx11? im on arch wayland niri running proton hotfix

[young sentinel]

its literally a glitch

[earnest condor]

Question:

how come im capped to 60fps on vulkan and dx12 but i get 300 fps on dx11?
Most probable answer:
im on arch wayland niri running proton hotfix

[dense nova]

vulkan should run better on linux though? i dont see why itd enforce a 60fps cap

[young sentinel]

how does this highly complicated near cutting edge run on linux and do you need to use wine

[remote spindle]

Anyone playing Satisfactory with mods?

[dense nova]

proton exists

and runs most steam games completely fine with great performance

[unkempt blade]

Hygiene is important during a gaming binge! Take care of yourself

[neat marlin]

how many mw does your guys factories require? Do we think 450mw is enough to get me out of phase 2

[south sinew]

it's usually 1-2GW

[neat marlin]

great, so im not even close

[south sinew]

there's no need to hit any particular MW target, it's just about how big a factory you want to build and how long you can wait for

[compact knot]

relly depends on you, but i suggest 16 coal gens should hold for a bit

@neat marlin always check your power usage whe nbuilding thats how you know whe nyou need more

[raven grotto]

best target is yes

[unkempt blade]

Not very quickly at least. I'd say maybe 3-4GW for me normally for phase 2

[earnest condor]

Of course there is no need to hit a MW target.
Because your targets should be in GW. 😏

[earnest condor]

My baseline Phase 2 power plant is 3.6 GW.

[compact knot]

just donmt let thaty orange line get to close to the black line lol

[unkempt blade]

I think it'd probably be higher next run now that I'm used to disassembling crash sites. That was a much bigger boost early game than I was expecting at first

[abstract heron]

19,704 hrs on record

Working on it

Don't ask when ill reach 20k hrs now its alot of up and down etc etc

[compact knot]

gl with that, i only see myself doing that much in SE1,2

[unkempt blade]

follow your dreams and you too can reach the stars!

[abstract heron]

I do plan on reaching 20k hrs before summer break from the game for heat or before idk

[worthy python]

i did i look after our self (DID)

[heavy pine]

Can't wait to start a new game and set all the resource nodes to max purity.

[earnest condor]

🤔

[raven grotto]

man i dont know how to make my factory look good or even manage space well

[worn oar]

You don't have to

[violet glen]

you will not run out of space, I can guarantee you

[raven grotto]

I just leveled everything but my setups so now its just one big platform with machines

[raven grotto]

the factory must grow

[worn oar]

The game has infinite space, don't worry

[raven grotto]

maybe i need to use vertical space

[violet glen]

well, not infinite, but specially with verticality, it's just astronomically huge

But even without building towers. You will not run out of space

[sour cargo]

build up.

[worn oar]

If the constraint is something other than the space, then the space is infinite.

[raven grotto]

trying to but dont want it to be ugly so im overthinking the hell out of it :P

[worn oar]

Jeff Bezos can buy an infinite amount of starbucks coffees, because he would run out of time before he ran out of money to purchase them.

[violet glen]

I've beaten the whole game with just four locations, two of them major, zero verticality.

99.9% of the map unused

you will be fine

[raven grotto]

so how do i use vertical space better

I think thats my biggest problem

[daring trout]

Blueprints

[raven grotto]

ive seen photos where smelters are in a room then constructers in one above n so on

[violet glen]

just add a floor, and keep building really

[worn oar]

I wouldn't go vertical until phase 3 but you can if you want to

[sour cargo]

conveyor lifts

[raven grotto]

oh ok im literally at the end of phase 2, all i have left are the tubes and to automate the things for the elevator

[daring trout]

I prefer to section off by part. For example, what I’m making?

Let’s say I’m smelting iron ore. Ok smelters, how does that look? Build out an area to maximize the miner you are working with. Then leave what’s above it open, with the intention that more floors will be added when upgrading the miner and belts and so forth.

What’s after that, building iron plates? Go another foundation or so away, figure out how I want to lay out constructors, with the idea that I will duplicate it vertically when I update.

[raven grotto]

should I do that then get mk4 logistics?

[cobalt harness]

Will the save files delete itself when not played for a long time?

[violet glen]

no, why would they?

[daring trout]

I mean you do want that but you don’t have to do it immediately. Plan factories knowing that you need to upgrade

[daring trout]

I still have save files from like 2021 lol

[raven grotto]

I mean I tried that with this one, but i guess it was also my first ever actual factory so thats probably why i scrapped it and want to go fresh

[daring trout]

Look up templates online

You don’t have to reinvent the wheel

@raven grotto look up oldshavingfoam on Reddit he makes stackable ones that are concise, they are very good

[coarse sonnet]

Quick question regarding a sorter using smart splitters, for my passthrough lane of the smart splitter, if I use "Any" and have say Concrete going out of the left lane, it still splits concrete and only sends partial to the left lane instead of all concrete that touches it to the left lane, I've tried "Any undefined", but that causes random clogs and blocks the entire flow of items, should I be using overflow or what am I supposed to use for the passthrough lane?

[violet glen]

If the defined output is blocked, any undefined will block

overflow is correct

since the undefined stuff has nowhere to go, it's also overflow

[coarse sonnet]

I'm using a dual smart splitter setup with overflow of the 2nd smart splitter going into a merger and then to a sink down a chain of 40+ smart splitter/storage setups, so once the stack of boxes for my storage is full, that lane in theory shouldn't become blocked since it's sending any overflow to a sink

I tried to post a screenshot but I guess this doesn't allow them lol

[sick falcon]

i have 7650 crude oil how much should i dedicate to plastic, rubber, fuel, and coke each

[quick hound]

Just finished a heat sink to cooling system to Turbo Motor and Super Computer factory! Spent 12 hours on that fucker

[quick hound]

Drink it all instead lol

[coarse sonnet]

I thought turbo motors were going to be the death of me

[quick hound]

They build so slowly. I hate it.

I’m making around 27/m

[coarse sonnet]

I setup 16.68/m and produced each part for it from scratch within the same factory, what a nightmare lol

[quick hound]

Yeah, this one was all from scratch except radios, aclaid sheets, and one other I can’t remember

[coarse sonnet]

I was producing none of what was required because like an idiot, I hand fed everything for the space elevator into manufacturers/assemblers to progress instead of building out production xD

[quick hound]

I completed it all without even starting aluminum.. sent the spaceship away haha

Tickets are broken af

[coarse sonnet]

same lmaoo

[quick hound]

My man

[coarse sonnet]

I finished the whole game never producing anything like the uhh

assembly director system and that whole tree of items

[quick hound]

Yeah, fuck that

[coarse sonnet]

I hand fed the machines to make them from parts bought from the shop

[violet glen]

I also hand fed for the space elevator, exception being pasta. It's all just relatively tiny amounts, so full production lines are overkill.

[quick hound]

Same here

[coarse sonnet]

magnetic field generator, thermal compulsion rocket, all of that, no production of that shit lol

[quick hound]

I ate the pasta

[coarse sonnet]

my nuclear pasta was made from hand feeding pressure conversion cubes xD

[violet glen]

I just had a growing machinery at the space elevator, each phase gaining another stage

[coarse sonnet]

I tore down after each competion xD

[violet glen]

well, I automated pasta cause I need it for the portals

[quick hound]

Pasta is yummy, that’s why I made it

[sick falcon]

i wish there was a way to filter which resources showed on the map

[quick hound]

It’s called alcoholism

[coarse sonnet]

I overproduced the pasta and build a 12 double container stockpile, I hand feed a few of the things for portals when I need to cross the map just enough to power it on then suicide with keep inventory turned on to go back home lol

[violet glen]

That sounds like it's more of a pain than just hypertube-cannoning there

[coarse sonnet]

I sloop and overclocked to make a bunch of the singularity cells, so I have more than enough

I usually do just cannon when I want to travel but if I need to go somewhere quick for troubleshooting I'll use the various portals I've slapped down across the map

also, if anyone ever tries to convince you that you need nuclear, that's all lies, I beat the game never touching nuclear and never needing it xD

[violet glen]

Just re-linking takes longer than flying over

[quick hound]

I would use my hypertubes cannon that has 487 segments.. but it crashes my game when going thru the final one

[coarse sonnet]

xDDDD

[quick hound]

I’m pretty sure it’s because I atomize.. then I turn into a nuclear explosion

[violet glen]

no, you just jump outside of the map in one frame

and the engine is not programmed to deal with coordinates that large

[quick hound]

It’s cause I atomize

[coarse sonnet]

I beat the game though late last night and now idk what to do, it's my 7th playthrough but first time beating it. now I'm sad and depressed lmao

[quick hound]

Make a factory for every single thing you can think of. I think I might start on ficsonium next

[violet glen]

Build a Nuclear Power Plant up to the Ficsonium stuff

[coarse sonnet]

hmmmmm

but it scares me 😄

[quick hound]

Or snort a mile long line of petroleum coke like I do

SNIIIIIIIIFFFFFF

[coarse sonnet]

I've had so many factories shut down because of goofy issues with trains, I'm afraid of doing nuclear because I hate trains

[quick hound]

Don’t do trains then

SPAGHETTI WORKS FINE!

And drones exist

[coarse sonnet]

I've advanced at least far enough that I cannot allow spaghetti but crossing the map with belts is painful

I hate drones more than trains xD

[quick hound]

⭐️ drones 🌟

[coarse sonnet]

I've had more issues with drones than I have trains!

[violet glen]

Trains have so far never failed me

[quick hound]

Fucking how?!

[coarse sonnet]

bruh I have no idea

[quick hound]

I have about 50 drones flying around my map at all times

[violet glen]

just do a proper two-rail setup, and you got a map wide network that largely sorts itself

[thick river]

so many train haters im surprised

[coarse sonnet]

trains were fine until I started doing 8 car trains and then my entire train network died because my intersections didn't have space in my blocks to accomodate them

I have a two-rail setup, but I use zero path signals, blocks only xD

[violet glen]

8 wagons is just too heavy for some inclines

[quick hound]

Dude, drones are way better, so what if it has less space than a train. Set it up, link up two ports, fuel ‘em, and boom

[thick river]

isnt the advice 4 wagons per train?

[quick hound]

You are a chicken nugget

And I am a duck

[coarse sonnet]

inclines weren't my issue, I'm up high enough to avoid that issue in 99% of my rail network, the issue I had was the 8 car trains were getting stuck in short block chunks at intersections

[violet glen]

4 wagons per train is safe at least

[sudden current]

Should I get Copper Rotor or 6 inventory slots?

[violet glen]

might get slow, but won't stop

[quick hound]

Eat the harddrives instead

[coarse sonnet]

@sudden current inventory slots go a long way, I'd go that route

but I also play this game like an absolute menace so maybe don't listen to me

[sudden current]

Idk what this means

[coarse sonnet]

pull them out of your monitor and eat them, CHOMP

[quick hound]

Just eat the hard drive. Simple. Problem solved.

[sudden current]

The inventory slots are very enticing. I just don't know how useful copper rotors are. Regular rotors seem fine.

[quick hound]

JUST. EAT. THE. FUCKING. HARD. DRIVES.

:>

[coarse sonnet]

lemme look at the recipe on mine and see if I'm using it anywhere, standby

I have not learned the copper rotor, it's sitting on a rescannable drive as a lone option to select, take the inventory slots

[quick hound]

Hey uhh, worm.. watch out, there’s a bird nearby

[sour cargo]

you will get copper rotor alt again alter, get the inv slots IMO

there's enough HD for all the alts

[thick river]

luckily its quite late

[coarse sonnet]

there's a tier list somewhere of alt recipes on reddit, I used that to decide what to learn, it was very right and all of the ones it said were useless were infact useless and never got learned, I assume copper rotor was in that list of useless alts

[quick hound]

Reddit? Really..

[thick river]

i dont think it is actually

also just take whichever one feels useful/fun to you. there are more drives than recipes

or you can just sit on it until later

[quick hound]

Hey, chicken nugget, do you wanna drink some rocket fuel with me?

[coarse sonnet]

alternatively, wanna drink some ionized fuel with me instead?

[raven grotto]

yo the ADA is starting to worry for me

[wise junco]

i invited myself to also huff rocket fuel

[quick hound]

No, no, you only get turbo fuel.

[raven grotto]

i think she likes me 🥹

[ivory bluff]

... Yup, yo all cray cray. Going back to my nightmares.

[coarse sonnet]

who wants to rail a couple lines of copper powder?

[quick hound]

I already did that.

[coarse sonnet]

hot

[thick river]

who wanna smoke some smokeless powder

[coarse sonnet]

mmmmm

[quick hound]

Who wants to eat some singularity cells with me?

Yo guys, I got a question.

[coarse sonnet]

I beat the game without having excess reinforced iron plates being made, I buy them all from the shop, send help

[quick hound]

What do you think about my power grid that makes 500 gw every 10 minutes, for 2 minutes. Then a power grid to start that power grid, then a backup power grid to kickstart the secondary power grid, then biomass generators to power the backup backup generator, peak efficiency, right?

(In my joke save)

[coarse sonnet]

honestly, just get biomass gens everywhere and hand feed each one

it's more efficient

[quick hound]

Nuh uh

[thick river]

lowk i just handmine coal

[quick hound]

snorts

[coarse sonnet]

based

[quick hound]

Nobody wants to eat singularity cells with me :(

[restive umbra]

Factory

[thick river]

so true

[raven grotto]

bru if i make 20 smart plate/m i still need to wait for 40 minutes

my bad 50

[fair finch]

can i visit someones factory i wanna see if my gpu can handle big factories

[abstract heron]

who runs scim anyways

[abstract heron]

i have my world but i use mods in my world

[raven grotto]

what do we think about clipping

[tall lantern]

very individual, like most things here

some fine with clipping anything into anything, some like to avoid it entirely, some are fine when it's hidden away, some use it for decoration, etc

[abstract heron]

i am being a nerd figuring out how to do 1200 into refeinrys from fully overclocking 3 power shards and making = input and putput

[remote spindle]

Anyone playing Satisfactory with mods?

[tall lantern]

feel like there's a more specific question there

[abstract heron]

yes

[raven grotto]

yea like i personally dont care about clipping if i will never see it, but if its a long conveyor belt, best you know you wont see a single clip

[remote spindle]

I messaged you privately, friend.

[abstract heron]

i answered u in dms

[abstract heron]

🤓

[earnest condor]

🖇️

[neat marlin]

dude this powerplant is annoying

always some sort of issue

[abstract heron]

what problem

First of all did u swear at it

[sinful zodiac]

So I need a quick opinion. I'm popping all over the map setting up little automaitons that go directly to my pocket (if you know you know trying to avoid too much spoiler) For purposes of building things easier (as in ful factories and whatnot. I have a spot that can do stators, but it has enough stuff that it could do motors instead.

Should I bother with the stators? Like at all in this context. I can't think of any buildings that need them and other than having some in storage for hard drive retrieval I can't think of any reason to automate them on their own. (I made a similar decision to skip screws)

[neat marlin]

of course, thats the default move

[abstract heron]

First after past me did somethign bad is i swear

then see what problem is

[bitter basin]

I think? I have a big factory, but I intentionally optimize by spreading out my factories and surrounding w walls to reduce GPU load

[fair finch]

can i visit

[abstract heron]

i have a big world

STUPIDLY BIG WORLD

[bitter basin]

You skipped screws?? Lmfao

Automate that like RIGHT now

[abstract heron]

ummmm peeps is this crazy

[fair finch]

i wanna make sure my old gpu can handle late game factories

[tall lantern]

yeah, stators aren't really useful as an end product

[abstract heron]

19,707 hrs on record TOTAL in my world is 5,860hrs

[neat marlin]

I just keep running out of materials, and before that I struggled for 2 hours tryna figure out why one gen wasn't getting the same amount of water, then before that it was not enough coal, and then also a few gens weren't making full power

[fair finch]

can i join a massive factory

[neat marlin]

just a huge mess

[tall lantern]

you only need them as an end product very briefly (milestones), so you don't need a line that ends at screws

[abstract heron]

are these good hrs peeps 😛

[bitter basin]

Yeah sure! But i dont get off my shift for another 2.5 hours, and then again, its not super late game, i dont have nuclear power yet but im literally building the infrastructure for them right now

[tall lantern]

your entire personality is those hours 😅

[fair finch]

its fine i wanna stress out my gpu

[abstract heron]

What kind of gpu?

[fair finch]

1660ti

[abstract heron]

i have umm 5080ti

[fair finch]

aight dang haha

[neat marlin]

pretty funny you guys just mentioned stressing out your gpu's lol, Mine seems like its doing alr but I get lag spikes randomly now

[abstract heron]

what settings and i find that too sometimes

[fair finch]

mind if i join a big factory

[raven grotto]

damn i started on tuesday and am at 40

[abstract heron]

i started on June 8th 2020

[abstract heron]

i need 293 or 292hrs to reach 20k hrs

[raven grotto]

yo versitile framwork actually really easy to make lowkey

[raven grotto]

fire, my most played game is at 70 hrs, but all in all i recently got my pc and already bought something new for it today

[earnest condor]

ong bruh.
Framework maxing frfr.

[raven grotto]

monitor arms and a new monitor 🔥

[earnest condor]

Middle-key the best thing ever.

[abstract heron]

at 20k hrs i am going to be doing a review AND pinging jason and mikael

[fair finch]

does anyone have a big factory mind if i visit so i can make sure my gpu would last on late game

[abstract heron]

so i often put my hrs in for tracking and such

[neat marlin]

yo got a question, I am currently playing on my first save game still, and when I first started, I obviously didn't know abt power grids, so all my power for my main factory is spread across like legit 15 different grids. Should I redo that? Or just keep procrastinating and tell myself its good enough

[abstract heron]

dis is when i reach 19k hrs

[earnest condor]

Never settle for "good enough."

[latent prawn]

yeah, the issue is that both mod frames and steel beam are hard to make in large quantity

[abstract heron]

oh hello moon

[raven grotto]

If procrastination is your power, what are you without it?

[raven grotto]

i think steel beams are easy to make but the mod frames is the hard part out of it all

[abstract heron]

almost nearly 1 week and maybe 2 days 1.2 comes to stable 🙂

[raven grotto]

the day i get my new monitor off amazon too

[latent prawn]

the right combo of recipes helps a lot

[native tapir]

what gpu

[fair finch]

1660ti

[native tapir]

There are a bunch of saves people have shared online you can try. Depends what you mean by "Late game factory"

[fair finch]

how do i download it?

[native tapir]

because yes, your GPU can handle a factory that beats the game

[raven grotto]

bro i have an rx 580 couldnt care lol

[native tapir]

but I doubt it will do well with Big Booty Tom's factory

[sinful zodiac]

I mean I skipped automating them to my pocket

[raven grotto]

does anything do well with his?

[abstract heron]

I have 5080ti

[raven grotto]

rich

[native tapir]

Yeah. With a couple performance-increase-only mods, I did great in there the other day

I was working with SpaceGameDev to make that factory cart station video about his mod and it was fine.

6700xt here so nothing crazy

[raven grotto]

Where to get and how do mods work? May need performance or something at some point

[native tapir]

Ficsit.app

[raven grotto]

Ty

[native tapir]

oh shit here comes andrew

the number 1 destroyer of saves

[grave burrow]

Yeah imagine a factory that makes 29 million items a minute. That breaks even the unreal engine but needs upwards of a TB of ram XD

[native tapir]

@earnest condor Andrew here has locked up more saves than anyone. And on a pretty insane machine too lol

[earnest condor]

I want to say you altered the object limit of the game to enable you to build that in the first place?

[neat marlin]

whats with the one letter... names?

[native tapir]

Andrew has literally shaped this game and helped it become what it is

[native tapir]

Do you have OBS or other screen recording open? Discord enter streaming mode?

[grave burrow]

ohhh yeah, had to extend the UObject limit to over 500 million just to finish that one.

[earnest condor]

Also curious as to what items? Because Max Screw was like 4 million/min.

[earnest condor]

So it's not a "real" save 😛

[neat marlin]

not that im aware of

[grave burrow]

Ficsmas. The trees dont need inputs or power

[raven grotto]

Would ecc server ram work? Saw a guy use a server that had two newer xenons like 1tb of ddr4 ecc and a 4090 i think

[native tapir]

Is there a bar at the top of Discord that says its entered streaming mode?

[neat marlin]

I have 130 ficsmas gifts in my world that I never opened

hmmmm interesting, dont know when I enabled that

[native tapir]

Brother I have a strategic reserve of several million lmao

[grave burrow]

The built in UObject limits are barely terafactory levels though. I have maxed it in under 2hrs XD

[native tapir]

@neat marlin you didn't. It does it automatically when you have something open that can do screen capture.

[neat marlin]

sheesh

[earnest condor]

Modded. Automatically invalid.
😏😉💛

[neat marlin]

ohhhh

[native tapir]

I give Andrew a pass for mods. He already did everything in the base game

I don't just mean beat the game

[earnest condor]

I give no one a pass. 🙃

[grave burrow]

Cant use mods. Mainly so it helps the devs. All vanilla minus altering the engine which is allowed for them to take saves for optimizing purposes

[native tapir]

I mean he beat the shit out of the game

[neat marlin]

@grave burrow out of curiosity, how many hours you got in this game?

[earnest condor]

Fair.

[raven grotto]

I just realized, why isnt there a steam workshop for something like blueprints?

[native tapir]

@earnest condor you should watch his stream. If you can get past the fact that you have to look at/listen to Andrew the entire time it's very entertaining

[bitter basin]

Ohhh ok thank god. I mean if I were you id put em in the pocket anyway

[native tapir]

@raven grotto there are plenty of websites for it.

[grave burrow]

After 2k hours, I found myself bored with normal beating the game. So I started building larger. At 10k hours I found a love for terafactories and at 15k hours, I created the first 10 million item a minute factory and now just shy of 20k hours.

[earnest condor]

FICSIT Inc. reminds all pioneers that they could be building instead of watching.

[raven grotto]

I know, but like workshop is always nice not trying to argue just made a statement thats all

[native tapir]

por que no los dos?

[earnest condor]

English server.

[native tapir]

Me either sorry if it came off that way. I think I like the websites better tbh. Idk if a steam workshop would work well for this game lol

[neat marlin]

insane dude, its literally like a lifestyle at that point lmao

[quick hound]

FICSIT Inc. reminds all Pioneers that if you are not building, you are not saving the puppies and kittens.

[raven grotto]

Fair, makes sense, gives a bit more choice and freedom

[earnest condor]

I miss pre-1.0 when the game was about making fun of over-industrialization...
Instead of this "save the planet, all is peace and harmony"... 😞

[native tapir]

jokes aside @grave burrow has a really really good twitch stream that is very unique and fun to watch

[neat marlin]

im gonna have to give it a watch, whats the user

[grave burrow]

Yeah it adds up quick. Each of my factories now take over a year to build. I just finished a nearly 9000 rocket fuel power plant after 11 months, and that only allows me to be able to just turn on the nuclear power plant that I am estimating will take a little over another year to construct. Will nearly use every node on the map at that point

[native tapir]

I don't really watch twitch other than to say hello to friends in the community but I will actually sit and watch dummy here for a couple of hours while I do stuff because he's got a great show. Same name on twitch as on here

[quick hound]

FICSIT wishes to remind all Pioneers that all creations, automations and buildings is property of FICSIT Inc.

[neat marlin]

insane.

[abstract heron]

OH your here

hiya andrew the guy who breaks stuff and me

[worthy python]

yay F4 now

[abstract heron]

Yes andrew is very cool and nice person to watch and make angry in game

[native tapir]

As a straight married man, I really just go to flirt with him and see if he's breaking stuff

[abstract heron]

i am also just shy shy of 20k hrs like 290 or 293 away

[grave burrow]

Same as my discord name XD

[abstract heron]

I love it when andrew breaks crapola

i am currently as my main project which i had to space elveator parts 200-400 nuclear pasta

oh @grave burrow i am using power shards atm got to much with no fps or 25FPS in my current world

[quick hound]

FICSIT reminds THIS Pioneer that overcompensation is not acceptable for Pioneer’s egos.

[abstract heron]

19,708 hrs on record 292hrs away i am a big veteran player

also andrew let me ping u in a thread which i gave guru my world

[grave burrow]

Yeah I occasionally use a few QOL mods, but not for anything I know the devs might use. Only time I do stuff in AGS is so it doesnt take months to build something they want to use for optimizations or whatnot.

[abstract heron]

i did not want to do fully overclocking @grave burrow but to save my world i had to

[quick hound]

FICSIT wishes to remind THIS Pioneer that you get paid to automate, not stand around.

[grave burrow]

Yeah I only will underclock just so I have to build more things. And its Ficsit approved energy efficient!

[abstract heron]

also something is Annoying bug maybe but with not menu open fpss is high andrew

[quick hound]

Hey Andrew, do you have any rocket fuel I can huff?

[abstract heron]

and menu open fps is at 25fps to 28Fps

[grave burrow]

Unfortunately I only have some extra Ionized rocket fuel for the jet pack, youre welcome to a few jugs XD

[abstract heron]

Hope to see you in stream later today

[quick hound]

LETS FUCKING GOOOO! starts chuggin

[abstract heron]

who else should i ping when i have 20k hrs minus jason and mikael

[quick hound]

Me

So I can make fun of you 😆

[abstract heron]

uh no

[quick hound]

Yes

I’m messing, I want to congratulate ya

[abstract heron]

okay

u jason and mikaelfor now

[quick hound]

Hell yeah

[fair finch]

i loaded amega print in my world and it seems the game is pretty optimized

[quick hound]

Is it amega disappointment like I am?

[abstract heron]

Before 20k hrs ill ask everyone who they want to be pinged @quick hound

[quick hound]

Are you AFKing? Because that’s gay.

[abstract heron]

i am not afking

[quick hound]

Good

[low helm]

You should ask someone to make a video compilation of the stuff you did in those 20.000 hours.
I am betting it would create a pretty awesome montage.
(Or do it yourself of course)

Letting someone else do it might even be more fun, they might pick some stuff you wouldn't think of yourself

[abstract heron]

of what 😛

i might be the first legit player of having 20k hrs

[low helm]

All your builds

[abstract heron]

i have one main world atm which i am working on and others are my test worlds and one big modded one

[low helm]

I would say that doesn't invalidate my point

:)

[abstract heron]

ik and the one save i did was my first one that is messy and the one i started back in u3 and ya

[abstract heron]

idk who and tbh idk what the devs would do if i reach 20k hrs give me agood role or something

[abstract heron]

i already ahve nether person in here and jason and mikael when i reach 20k hrss

[quick hound]

You better have them add like a small PNG of a lion somewhere in the map as an Easter egg for ya

[abstract heron]

idk about that yet

if jason or mikael wanna to do something i am fine but i am still good ill see for tmr and ask them

[quick hound]

And to celebrate, snort a bottle of coca-cola

[abstract heron]

Pepsi for me 🙂

they might add a easter egg for me in game

[quick hound]

yeah get blocked. Pepsi loving fuck. (I’m joking)

[latent prawn]

maybe 20k hrs earns you a ficsit checkmark

[quick hound]

FICSIT Inc. is not responsible for wasted time. Please touch and/or eat grass.

[latent prawn]

i don't think it is really something to brag about, lol

[quick hound]

Anyway, goonight chat

[abstract heron]

or some roles on here but ill leave that to mikael or jason

[quick hound]

Bro. You will have spent 2 years and 2 months IN SATISFACTORY.. WHAT THE FUCK..

[weary gate]

What time does 1.2 drop? Midnight?

[abstract heron]

and i only take summer off due to irl heat

[abstract heron]

June 2nd 2026 at probbaly 11am EST or 12pmEST thats what i am thinking

[quick hound]

I think you need to get the fuck away from gaming..

[abstract heron]

from satisfactory?

[quick hound]

YES

[abstract heron]

i play from Fall and winter and spring to early days of summer before heat

[quick hound]

2 years and 2 months of satisfactory. Gang. PLAY SOMETHING ELSE. IM BEGGING U

Ok goodnight

[weary gate]

Never

[abstract heron]

only in summer and irl temps hot days

and me needing to sleep

[sleek cape]

About to finish phase 2 first time playing. I've learned so much that I wanna restart my save to avoid some logistics issues I've created for myself through not knowing what comes next. Is this going to continue to be the case throughout rest of the game? If so, any tips on mindset to future proof my setups for that?

*and general mess through not understanding how structures and grids worked early on

[jolly solstice]

restarting a save is such a common thing for me on this game and other factory/tycoon-genre games, i feel like this is a fine step to make so you can use your newly obtained experience and restart the game with the new techniques you've learnt
as for tips.. i'm not quite sure what do you mean by that, could you elaborate?

[sleek cape]

Yeah, any advice on how to build my factories early in the game so that they're easy to scale is what I should've said

[jolly solstice]

ah, that.. i'm afraid i can't give any tips on that because i'm the type of person that prefers to build a new factory rather than keep adding onto a pre-existing factory

because the latter usually ends up with spaghetti and is less aesthetically pleasing

[sleek cape]

Yeah I noticed that in this firts current save

Im trying to think of ways I can build in a modular fashion to avoid this and how to embrace verticality without clipping issue or weird spacing

I need to learn how to use verticality better for sure. And to think of production lies as modular

Lines

[jolly solstice]

i can't really help with modular building but i can certainly help with verticality, i'll send some screenshots in #screenshots

gimme a few mins

@sleek cape #screenshots message

[jolly solstice]

you can ask me stuff regarding these factories, i'm not sure what else i could explain rn

[warped crane]

@sleek cape the most important thing IMO is figuring out a 'vernacular', meaning a personal, repeatable style you can achieve across the build.

the blueprint builder is pretty vital for this because you can pre-fab certain architectural elements to repeat

For instance this screenshot of my main base you can see my basic build style for this playthrough

#screenshots message

[reef basin]

I'd recommend continuing the save rather than restarting

you can keep existing factories and build new factories elsewhere

[warped crane]

which is just kind of boxy buildings but using ramp walls and a 45 degree wall at the corners for interest

[jolly solstice]

actually yeah, the blueprints, those are hella convenient

[warped crane]

I have a blueprint that helps me repeat the 45 degree wall exactly, and another one for the 45 degree corner of the foundation below it

then I have the top 4m of wall replaced with 1m wall sections that I paint different colors based on what the factory is producing

this gives it a little visual interest without being extremely annoying to repeat all the time

once you establish a pattern you can make variations, like this aluminum factory (biggg version of box) #screenshots message

or this nuclear pasta building (box with a more boxy-box sticking out of it) #screenshots message

then inside the aluminum factory, for instance, I have all kinds of spaghetti nonsense, and get verticality with multiple internal floors and stuff like constructor stacking

#screenshots message

1st floor garage / materials depot, 2nd floor production, 3rd floor drone depot / product export

@proud tinsel if you're on steam you can hit F12 and then go to steam and right click the screenshot and do copy to keyboard

Not sure how to do it on epic 🤔 but the photos you take with photo mode are also stored somewhere

[low helm]

The photo mode also has a button to directly open that directory in your file explorer

[proud tinsel]

Ooh thanks !!

[proud tinsel]

Copy that

[warped crane]

wow thanks devs!

[warped crane]

its under settings btw! I didnt know that either cool 🙂

[compact swift]

Can I hide markers (I mean the named one) individually?

[ivory bluff]

I really shoudl start trains...
Me, meanwhile, redoing for the third time all of my road blueprints...

[sleek cape]

@warped crane just saw your response. Solid reply ty

[ivory bluff]

Is there any way to set up the intensity of ceiling lights? I'd like to use them but they are way too bright by default.

[sleek cape]

Wouldn't it be cool if you could underclock them to adjust brightness

[ivory bluff]

Are there limits to the number of blueprints one can have?

[stable linden]

personally what do you guys do with empty fuel cans

[sleek cape]

Sniff them

[stable linden]

ive just been stacking up containers lowkey

[sleek cape]

And yearn for full ones

[warped crane]

connect them to a light controller

same with all lights that can't be adjusted individually

[ivory bluff]

... Ooooh. OK, I didn't understand we could do that. Thank you very much!

[warped crane]

you will want them on an isolated electric grid that is only connected, ultimately, to the output of the light controller

[ivory bluff]

OK, makes sense, I understand the logic behind it. Thank you again!

[warped crane]

and then you can hook different banks of lights to different light controllers to adjust their settings independently

like one for interior and one for exterior lights eg

[ivory bluff]

I'll look into that as soon as I'm done (wasting my time) setting up my blueprints roads 😄

Also discovered the night mode for street lights. Me gusta.

[compact swift]

When is 1.2 full release?

[ivory bluff]

June 2th

[compact swift]

Thanks

hmm, reminds me I need to call my ISP about the contract change before 29th

[tacit canyon]

Would anything break when i convert my save to 1.2?

[sour cargo]

we can't know.
but it shouldn't

[ivory bluff]

Oh, right: what about the waypoints? Do they get reset? Or do the old and new systems will co-exist?

[leaden turret]

vehicle paths will be converted to a special type of new vehicle path that can't be edited

[ivory bluff]

I was planning to redo them all (I don't have that many trucks to handle), but good to know! Tyvm!

[unkempt blade]

Ruining jumps and stuff was the big mistake here. That was the most whimsical form of logistics

[supple canopy]

are you temporal illusion on reddit? You have the same very clear documented bullet points answering structure

[leaden turret]

nope

[unkempt blade]

that just means he's secretly AI

[supple canopy]

very advanced ones then because they both been talking like that before 2022

[unkempt blade]

Yeah basic consumer AI would never block me on discord. It would just tell me how great my repetitive memes are. That's how you can tell how advanced it is

[slender smelt]

do enyone want to play with my Satisfactory im New to the Game and i am from Switzerland

[fluid sapphire]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[keen stream]

Ive had some sound bug since a few days. Saw the reddit post redirecting to the discord. I cant hear ADA or the mercer Sphere conversations anymore and cant get fix it. Uninstalling, steam repair and everything tested. On new file, the audio is there but on my most progressed world, its gone. Any workarounds?

[ornate saffron]

have you check #1038092680493801533 for similar issues?

[ornate saffron]

i think there is a setting option for ADA banter as well

[unkempt blade]

http://questions.satisfactorygame.com/ would be a good place to look too

[normal orbit]

check audio settings if the volume been turned down

[keen stream]

On audio settings, its on max. When interacting with something that triggers ADA, I get the first half second of dialogue and then the audio disappears

[keen stream]

couldnt find something similar

[normal orbit]

certain in game actions will remove the dialogue audio

[native tapir]

Nah you're thinking of temporal illusion on discord. He's temporal illusion on Reddit

[supple canopy]

tremendous find

[quick hound]

Awh! But I made a path that jumps off a cliff and resets itself! It’s so funny watching 200 factory carts doing the great cart migration in real time

[native tapir]

But the game crashes at 131 carts migrating

🤨

[quick hound]

Mine didn’t.. or I forgot to put autopilot on a couple.. haha..

[unkempt blade]

sounds like a skill issue

[native tapir]

That is okay. Skills can be learned. For many folks it is a talent issue and they are out of luck.

[unkempt blade]

you're amazing and talented and I believe in you being able to migrate 132 carts one day

[sharp compass]

is the zipline sound that plays when you first start holding it the same as the backpack sound from poppy playtime?

[ornate saffron]

you should catch a live stream and ask lol

[sharp compass]

lol yeah

[drowsy phoenix]

Any ideas how to find all my overslooped buildings?

I know they have the colored smoke but like, anything better?

[dense violet]

the save editor might be useful to you, but if you have multiple floors of machines overlaping, probalby not

[drowsy phoenix]

Lol ty. My entire set of progress from tier 2 to where I am now (2/4 of 4) is all in a tower

[dense violet]

yeah you're probably going to just have an easier time visually looking over things

another reason I don't bother with sloops at all

if everything was flat you could probably scan with your mouse pretty clearly with the interactive map, but with lots of floors that'll be obnoxious I think

[drowsy phoenix]

Alright thanks

I definitely need them, but it'd be good to have the indicator go purple/pink rather than blue

[dense violet]

it is a purple haze around the machine
blue is for over clocking with shards

sloops don't change the machine light colour
and you can always just process more machines wit hresources

[earnest condor]

🧠

[earnest condor]

?

Blue light = overclock
Purple smoke = somered.

[ornate saffron]

pURPLE hAZE WRAPPED AROUND MY BRAIN

[earnest condor]

I got nothing on that reference.

[languid lotus]

aCTIN FUNNY AND I DONT KNOW WHYY

[ornate saffron]

I'm old lol

[languid lotus]

I just play guitar 😂😂

[winter swallow]

whats the best fuel for trucks?

[dense violet]

yeah sloops are a purple haze and shards give you a blue light

[dense violet]

define best?
imo plutonium rods

[latent prawn]

yellow fuel or better

[ornate saffron]

the one you have access to. then the one the fits your needs

[latent prawn]

coke actually isn't bad either, but the fuels just extend the effective length of the loops that trucks can travel

[abstract locust]

Is anyone knowledgeable in trains? Im making ny first train based mega base i have all of the main lines built around the world with stations, i just had a few questions about train behaviour, optimal mass item/multi item unloading systems, ways to stop stations from getting all clogged up and stuff of that sorts

[dense violet]

yeah sure

[restive umbra]

Depends

[abstract locust]

Perf thanks so much

[dense violet]

there's equations on figuring out throughput - but you can also eyeball it pretty well if you know the return time of the train as well as how much items stack to

If you want to keep it simple? trains go A to B and back and forth. Platforms don't actually have much throughput

as for getting clogged, if you're using the items they should never get clogged as long as the final output is sunk

[abstract locust]

so if i have 1 station tho, how would i optimally harvest 4-5 different types of resources? from that station

[dense violet]

well depends on throughput coming in. You could have 4-5 platforms , 1 for each resource

with trains if you want solid answers you really need concrete questions

with details

the 4-5 platforms answer is... fairly vague because I don't have much to work with

its an answer, but it might not be a great answer depending on details if you catch me?

[abstract locust]

yeah im gettin it

[pulsar tangle]

Afternoon all I am new to the game

I see online a lot of videos about factories and setups but at what tier would you start worrying about this kind of thing? I just unlocked tier 2 and tbf haven’t even ventured out from where I landed

[dense violet]

so the things that would help you narrow down how you might get a clean systems is
your belt speed
the parts per min you're moving
the return time
what items it is youre moving ect

[ornate saffron]

on teh reccieving end youll need to make a storage floor that the trains unload into this keeps the train platefroms unloading at all times

beyond that what Cobalt said

[dense violet]

it all depends on how you view the game
imo the milestones are all kinda a tutorial until you unlock everything and play a sand box game doing your own thing. More like mine craft

[dense violet]

yeah what beefalo is talking about is buffering both ends of loading and unloading

[ornate saffron]

take things one step at a time, Dont worry about future proofing. Just enjoy it.

Youtubers and streamers need to keep ppl watching you do not

[abstract locust]

each of my trains are 7 cars long, so 6 cargo platforms. Would it be optimal to kinda smart splitter that into the coresponding belts back at the mega base? so multiple different train can unload at the same platform?? Id be moving raw or next to raw resources

[dense violet]

honestly I'd just take your time, learn how to do various thigns (probably avoid tutorials , you won't learn as much and there's a lot of misleading things on youtube) and just ask some specific questions on here if you feel stuck 🙂

[dense violet]

so as mentioned, each platform doesn't have much throughput
if you have 3 trains coming in and each car you're unloading is about 1 full belt of throughput? it'll get clogged

realistically, you are unlikely to move much more than 1 belt per platform

[earnest condor]

If you are new to the game I would 100% genuinely recommend stop watching online videos and just play it for yourself.

[dense violet]

and if you're up to mk6 belts, you're probably unlikely to move more than 1/2 a belt per platform if it's full

(unless you have multiple trains on the route)

[abstract locust]

im going to tap every single resource on the planet im assuming

[dense violet]

honestly? you're not. Your computer will catch on fire before you can process all of it

[sweet shore]

Would tractors colliding with each other when crossing paths ruin their path following or would they continue as normal

[runic sedge]

plus if u do ull always compare ur progress with others so the fun of progressing on ur own jst goes and its just imitating what others do

[earnest condor]

In 1.1 they will teleport back.
In 1.2 they won't collide, they will deadlock.

[dense violet]

in 1.1 trucks will reset themselves and shouldn't interfere with flow

[fluid sapphire]

people really be googling how to play minecraft

[karmic elm]

Why is oil so far away

[abstract locust]

I have a 5090 Astral and 9950X3D2 in my pc if u genuinely think it’ll blow it up im going to be thoroughly impressed ive been tryna find a game to slow this thing down since i got it

[karmic elm]

It's fair if you never played before

[runic sedge]

not everyone has got a 5090

[dense violet]

yes, it'll be minutes per frame before you get there.

[abstract locust]

im not gloating im asking a question lol

[dense violet]

You'll get to minutes per frame WAY quicker processing it all in one spot as well

[tawdry quartz]

finally got a friend to get it and play satisfactory with me

🤑

[karmic elm]

Awesome

You get free labor now!

[ornate saffron]

the game forces you to branch out

[tawdry quartz]

yes

[earnest condor]

Define "far" when you can have automated delivery of anything at regular intervals?

[karmic elm]

It's cus i'm already using the closest oil for power

[abstract locust]

wow thats insane and theres no like optimization mods i could install? or like Graphics card settings i could chang to optimize it?

[abstract locust]

thats is true

[karmic elm]

Far: something that is not close

I need petroleum coke for aluminium

[earnest condor]

Relevance of distance in a game that cares only about throughput when you can have automated delivery from anywhere to anywhere at regular intervals?

[fluid sapphire]

they really gotta start shipping games with user manuals again huh

[dense violet]

nah, it's just not intended to use everything
all the resources are there to give you lots of options and paths to do different goals 🙂

[abstract locust]

in that case i’ll do as much remote processing as possible and do all the multi item crafts in house i wanna at least try to beat the game out of the mega base before it crashes

[karmic elm]

It's still annoying to set up an ugly ass belt highway

[earnest condor]

Why in TF would you set up an ugly ass anything when you are the person choosing to build and can make it not ugly ass?

[dense violet]

even if you drop your graphic settings to nothing, and make hubs spread out over the map you'll have massive issues before you can process everything through to tier 9

it's just going to come a LOT sooner if you do it in one spot

[karmic elm]

Broski. I just need petroleum coke for aluminium, and it's like 3 belts, i'm not making a pretty thing for 3 belts

[earnest condor]

We are not related.

And that is... a personal choice to make it look ugly ass 🤷‍♂️

[low helm]

I am awaiting the day I turn the 100 HMF factory on. Its 2000+ machines running in one spot lol

[abstract locust]

wow i mean i could upgrade to a dual CPU system if u think that’ll get me somewhere I can just put it as a tax write off

[earnest condor]

Also a personal choice to belt it when you have other options.

[dense violet]

I mean... the phases aren't much of a 'challenge' and you can finish the phases with a small fraction of the world resources. Easily.
after that it's mostly about whatever personal projects you find fun

[abstract locust]

okay sounds good

[karmic elm]

I need it quick, if i want to make it look good i'll make it look good later

It's a problem for future thal

[dense violet]

that's not actually too bad. Unless you have quite an old pc you should be ok honestly

[dense violet]

I'm not tooooo up on how all the processing works , but afaik I think it's still mostly single thread processing or something? But not an expert on that

[dense violet]

you'd have to ask someone like @spice patio

they are probably the techiest person about this game on the server

[spice patio]

Which might make things worse.
As the main limiter is the main coordinating thread usually.
So high-frequency AMD X3D CPUs are currently the best at running the game.
Because it just loves that extra cache to minimize cache trashing.

No idea if that new 9950X3D2 with dual-X3D-CCDs would be any better than 9800X3D or 9950X3D with frequency CCD disabled, or worse from the cross-CCD latency.

[dense violet]

❤️

[raven grotto]

yo i just set up my monitor arms... having only one monitor with dual arms SUCKS

i have no idea how to space ts out

only 9 days till my new one comes anyway

[warped crane]

triple moniter gang rise up

[raven grotto]

and 9 days till 1.2 no?

[spice patio]

Only 3 monitors? How can you tolerate so low amount?

[fluid sapphire]

how many do you have then 🤨

[spice patio]

6

[fluid sapphire]

what do you do

[raven grotto]

fahh i didnt realize how big a 27 inch monitor is going to be.... i will have to go one vertical one sideways

[raven grotto]

play satisfactory probably

[runic sedge]

ultrawide monitor mogs

[fluid sapphire]

i like the separation between the spaces

[raven grotto]

i bought a 27in 1440p 100hz for 83 bucks bro

cheaper than most 1080s i saw

[spice patio]

#off-topic-tech message
#off-topic-tech message

[fluid sapphire]

ok so what do you do with all of them 😄

for my 3 its usually discord/devtools on the left, docs/lesson in the middle, code on the right

[spice patio]

Depends, right now: Spotify on top left, Discord on top center and top right.
Irc on left, reading book on center, watching youtube on right.

[fluid sapphire]

you read, listen to spotify and watch youtube at the same time?

[raven grotto]

my plan for when my new one comes in is to take my current 1080p 22" monitor and make it vertical on the left with my new 27" on the right horizontal, dont have enough space for double horizontal

[wet iris]

i have 1 monitor but I use niri so it feels like 5

[spice patio]

At times I have 6+ SSH connections at same time + other stuff, etc.

[raven grotto]

because im NOT putting my pc on the carpet and I have a standing desk so not like i would be able to put it on the floor anyway

[wet iris]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457105940844380160/1508120240784015635/1779634274893007686.png?ex=6a1461ec&is=6a13106c&hm=0a4f6377e9a4234779d65552edd8b1a1318beac8fa1bf1841daa1efa1c9d9cae&

[fluid sapphire]

i would benefit from having at least one of them vertical but unfortunately only the newest, the middle one even supports that

[raven grotto]

how so?

[fluid sapphire]

wdym

they just dont turn that way my guy 😄

[raven grotto]

like why doesnt it support vertical? do you not have arms i assume?

[fluid sapphire]

arms?

[raven grotto]

monitor arms

[wet iris]

imagine mic boom arms but for monitors

[fluid sapphire]

no, they are not attached to my desk or the wall, just on their stands

[wet iris]

rotational freedom + tilt freedom

[raven grotto]

i literally got mine in right now

and just set them up

[thick river]

can you use rails to transmit power or do they only accept power?

[spice patio]

Transmits, can output from any station.

[raven grotto]

so when I get my new monitor on the second, I will take off my current and rotate the vesa mount in order for it to be vertical

[thick river]

oh shit fr

[raven grotto]

only hard part is figuring out if I want the bigger lip to be the left or right

[fluid sapphire]

i dont have a lot of space anyway

[wet iris]

i think the hoverpack does draw from rails though, which is quite good for building around your tracks

[wet iris]

IKR this is so annoying

i hope to get a equal seam monitor for a vertical setup some day

[fluid sapphire]

ya\ll here with your fancy arms and setups

[quick hound]

Hey Baldur. I wonder what would happen if I bit the zappy licorice chomp.. AAAAAAAAAAA

[fluid sapphire]

rail connection points, to be specific, and its buggy too

[runic sedge]

my guy u also have 3 monitors

[fluid sapphire]

2 of which are old pieces of garbage?

[wet iris]

i might be the one with the simplest setup lol, its a 165hz single monitor on an arm

[fluid sapphire]

literally 2 decades old

[runic sedge]

still 3 monitors i mean

[wet iris]

ikr

[runic sedge]

u dont need all of them to be fancy

[raven grotto]

mines an old work monitor of my dads, ill probably have the bigger one to the left since the monitor is to the left making it seem like a smaller lip in total

[runic sedge]

if the main on3e s good then u can have whatever as second monitor

[raven grotto]

ik what i mean but it sounds dumb

[fluid sapphire]

i dont, but its still a basic setup :p

[runic sedge]

fair enough

[fluid sapphire]

the type of monitor to my left you could probably find from a landfill for free these days lmao

[wet iris]

any of you have experience with OLED monitors?

[raven grotto]

my new monitor going to be so nice I hope its perfect... bought it from amazon refurb so

[wet iris]

i've heard they're better for competitive gaming like 165hz OLED may be better than a 240hz IPS

[runic sedge]

i saved for couple of year on my setup, got an ultrawide and a second busted monitor for spotify discord and to watch some stuff

[raven grotto]

apple music on top 🔥

[runic sedge]

oled is like the only right choice if ur loaded with money

u shouldnt even be considering other types if oled is one of ur options

[raven grotto]

ah man i should have been afking while doing all of this

[wet iris]

its like 400 EUR oof 💀

[runic sedge]

thats underpriced

good ones usually start at 600-800 bucks

[raven grotto]

so how does 100hz feel compared to 60? never used anything higher than 60

[fluid sapphire]

if you are coming from an old TN panel, IPS is a big upgrade

[wet iris]

its night and day honestly, once you get used to it you cannot look at 60hz the same

[runic sedge]

tbf u could feel a difference, not day and night difference but its smoother

[fluid sapphire]

cant speak for 100 exactly, i use mine at 120 sometimes, when i can, its pretty nice

[rapid sedge]

I think ADA wants me dead

[wet iris]

above like 144 though I wouldn't really invest in unless you're into competitive gaming

[wet iris]

i think even the switch from 60 to 90 is huge and noticable

[fluid sapphire]

i dart between 60 and 120 and i got used to it idk

[wet iris]

I went from a samsung galaxy s8 to a pixel 6 and it was insane

[runic sedge]

noticeable ye but i dont think huge

[fluid sapphire]

not all games even support rates over 60

[raven grotto]

I bought a 100hz 1440p 27" KTC IPS for 83 bucks off of amazon refurbished so

[fluid sapphire]

you will definitely feel the difference

[wet iris]

wha idk of any that don't

[raven grotto]

and I can always go 1440p 1080p FSR as my rx 580 will NOT handle this game at 1440p

[fluid sapphire]

fromsoft games, snowrunner, off the top of my head

[languid flower]

I have kinda of stupid question. I've been trying to figure out my T junctions for trains. I've watched several youtube videos and they all say to put blocks at the entry and exit points. When I do that, all I get is error saying that it loops on itself. Am I missing something simple?

[fluid sapphire]

anything that has physics tied to framerate

[wet iris]

ah right

[wet iris]

not really though

most games have seprate framerate for rendering and physics

[fluid sapphire]

well, duh

[wet iris]

the physics "frame" rate is called tickrate

[raven grotto]

minecraft 🤓

[wet iris]

sooo many source games have a fixed tickrate but variable framerate

[fluid sapphire]

i am talking about games that are built in that way, not the particulars

[raven grotto]

maaan do I build another 16 coal power plants for the love of the game

[wet iris]

ah, yeah most fromsoft games are insanely easy to run because they have tied the two together

[raven grotto]

never played any of theirs

[wet iris]

my friend made me buy ds3 a few years ago, maybe I will finally try it

[fluid sapphire]

ds3 is fantastic

as is elden ring

[wet iris]

where do you recommend a person who is new to souls like should start?

[fluid sapphire]

and sekiro, that one is my fave

[wet iris]

I love the parrying and dodge mechanics in valheim

[raven grotto]

ah yes boutta have 32 coal plants runnign

[fluid sapphire]

elden ring for rolling around, or DS3, Sekiro if you want the best melee combat in probably any game ever

[raven grotto]

if i had grabbed more RIP before heading agh

[fluid sapphire]

with constant deflects

[wet iris]

since I already have ds3 ima try that

but yeah ive heard many good things aboutr sekiro, perhaps when it goes on sale

[fluid sapphire]

the steepest it goes is 50% off

but its worth it

[wet iris]

I think they removed regional pricing, I was able to buy it at 16 EUR iirc

[fluid sapphire]

peak xp

[wet iris]

now its 25 EUR on sale

[fluid sapphire]

i should replay it, but there is just too much stuff to play

[raven grotto]

cough keyresellers

[zinc portal]

took me 40hours to realease ive been playing on 1.0 instead of 1.2 😭

[fluid sapphire]

its so, so good though

[wet iris]

perhaps you could DM me a few you have experience with (allegedly)

[zinc portal]

https://tenor.com/s17mKyhySiM.gif

[wet iris]

games are like the one thing I don't like pirating haha

because to me, steam does not have a service problem

[zinc portal]

30usd or 0usd

the only annoyign thing si updates and steam achivments

[raven grotto]

i do have a good site for doing such a thing

my favorite site for that in fact

[wet iris]

if you need to catch fish, use a net instead of a pirate ship

[zinc portal]

Fg or pb

[raven grotto]

SR for games

[zinc portal]

dam

heard they are full of viruses

[raven grotto]

never had one

or are you thinking of su

[earnest condor]

🤔

I'm missing something important I feel.

Oh, well with that context.
I mean this as disrespectfully as possible:
🤬 pirates.

[raven grotto]

"You sing" "noted" lol

[leaden hinge]

i'm on console and need some help with fluids. Is there any way i can share my save file or if not what would i have to provide if i made a oost in questions and help?

[earnest condor]

What is wrong with your fluids?

[raven grotto]

dehydrated huh

[normal orbit]

provide ample screenshots of your setup

[wet iris]

I don't support game piracy but I think it still helps the game when people pirate it

[leaden hinge]

made a large computer manufacturing factory yet my oil isnt being pumped to the 16 refineries. I have over 1000/min being extracted yet it powers only 5-6 refineries. Tons of pipeline pumps yet it still screws up somehow

[leaden hinge]

lovely, will make a thread then. Thanks

[wet iris]

because the people who do pirate it never intended to pay for it in the first place but since they got to for free, they can atleast tell their friends or talk about the game to increase exposure

[earnest condor]

🤬 no.
There is no 🤬ing world where piracy HELPS video gaming.

[zinc portal]

st rip?

[normal orbit]

that is some cope and justification for stealing :p

[zinc portal]

bro

[earnest condor]

Stealing for survival I understand and appreciate.
Video games are not necessary for survival. There is no 🤬ing universe in which stealing them is acceptable behaviour.

[zinc portal]

11bit studio wouldnt be here if not for piracy

[earnest condor]

If that statement is accurate, I would say 11bit studio shouldn't exist.

[zinc portal]

so many people pirated mouse of the dead men or sm

that he gave free steam keys, to the priate communtiy and went mega viral

[wet iris]

stealing means someone is losing something for your gain. nobody is losing anything with piracy

they arent gaining anything either though, and that's unfortunate

[earnest condor]

🤬 pirates.
And 🤬 anyone who supports the pirating of video games.

Back to happier topics please.

[wet iris]

this would be an interesting debate if you actually had any points

[earnest condor]

There are no points to be had.

[zinc portal]

someones internet provider banned them becuase they priated sm

[earnest condor]

There is no justification for doing it.

[earnest condor]

I would genuinely stab eyes out with a fork before pirating a video game.

[zinc portal]

i doubt a african child will buy a game using thier months wage isntead of food

[earnest condor]

Games are not necessary for survival.

[zinc portal]

idk tho

a problem is that many times price isnt perportionate to income

[zinc portal]

then why are you in this server

[earnest condor]

That comeback has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

[wet iris]

exactly, and regional pricing often does not exist for triple A titles because of the greed of the studio

[earnest condor]

But I'll do what I should have done in the beginning and just block because "actively supports piracy of video games." 👍

[zinc portal]

cant blame them, cause you jsut exploit it like they did with vbucks

[wet iris]

honestly even coffee stain to some extent overprices their games in countries like Türkiye or India

[zinc portal]

good boy

what 11bit studio is doing is good

giving free steams keys time to time

pirating has its flaws so it isnt perfect

[wet iris]

yeah there are many such studios who do it during streams

[zinc portal]

some pirates font pirate all games like silksong

[wet iris]

imo if you can afford them, you should pay for indie games

[zinc portal]

ye i have a 2dollar limit

but sometimes pirating is worth it as the repacks are so much more efficent

like eurotruck sim or forza horizon

[wet iris]

I have like a 15 EUR limit since I got a job, but yes any limit is a good start

[zinc portal]

for me its not the money

i wont pay for a game ill play aa little. and might aswell use the money for sm else

[wet iris]

thats fair, its good to hear different takes on piracy

we can all agree fuck triple A studios weather we like piracy or not haha XD

[abstract locust]

so would double the threads not be better? both cpus need to be the exact same as eachother for the pc to boot anyway so there shouldnt be a limiting factor in that aspect

[zinc portal]

what other takes

[abstract locust]

unless i completely missed the point of ur statment which is entirely possible

[wet iris]

just generally what im seeing in this thread

[zinc portal]

lol

[wet iris]

I think the person they replied to was talking about a dual CPU system

[spice patio]

The game has two main threads, one for game processing, another for rendering.
And then variable number of workers.
But even on 6-core, you usually hit the single-core limits for those main threads first and the actual total CPU usage starts to go down, instead of up from that point onwards.

As the game cannot use more CPU power, and is single-thread performance limited.

[wet iris]

is this a UE5 thing all around? I swear because i have a weaker cpu all UE games run pretty bad

[zinc portal]

its because fortntie is dying

[spice patio]

Same for that cache-trashing.
More threads, more trashing, worse performance in many cases.

[wet iris]

i get like 70-90fps in satisfactory with minimal lag spikes on a ryzen 5 3600

[zinc portal]

affects ue5

[spice patio]

As those threads compete for cache space, and cause more RAM accesses to replace stuff back into cache that another thread evicted to get its stuff into cache.

And those increased RAM accesses just decimate the performance, as they are so slow.

Which is why X3D CPUs have so much better performance over the non-X3D counterparts in Satisfactory, and several other simulation/factory type games.

Actual number crunching software is coded to not cause cache trashing.
Games usually aren't.

And on AMD dual-CCD parts, the latency for communication between the two CCDs is about same as the RAM latency.

So if two tightly-coupled threads end up on different CCDs, the performance just tanks.

[raven grotto]

i just have a r5 5600 and rx 580 running medium 1080p at 60 fps no problem

[spice patio]

And for multi-socket systems, those latency issues are even worse.

[earnest condor]

I read that as "multi-rocket systems" 😁

[spice patio]

Between the different sockets, and the RAM on other sockets.

Which is why NUMA-awareness is so important for software running on such system.
Where RAM connected to the other CPUs is much slower than the RAM connected to "own" CPU.

Same for that cross-socket or cross-CCD communication, so you want the threads working on same stuff to be as close neighbors as possible to minimize various cache-coherency etc. latencies.

[wild phoenix]

Anyone have a link to the interactive map?

[spice patio]

#welcome

[wild phoenix]

Well this is convenient

Thx

[spice patio]

Many of the so far UE5 games have misused Nanite etc. in a way that causes excessive CPU usage all the time from doing things that the devs should have just done once themselves.

[raven grotto]

is experimental pretty non experimental now

or should I just wait a week

[spice patio]

Just going by the marketing material, instead of reading the actual documentation type thing.

[abstract locust]

ok so this was very helpful, now im gna throw something out there it might be dumb, would it be possible to have 1 cpu get allocated all the data from lets say the north and east sides of the map and 1 for south and west that would reduce how much the cpu’s talk to eachother reducing latency

[spice patio]

Where marketing for Nanite was that it does the LODs for you.
The documentation tells that you must downscale the artist models to highest LOD version, and Nanite will do the lower down LODs from that.
And many UE5 games just have those excessive detail artists models in, and Nanite is working overtime to try to scale those down to something game usable.

[spice patio]

Devs would need to code such things, so realistically no.

[wet iris]

I gotta read up on what nanite actually does

but yeah I remember there were a few such features that were misused or overused and caused insane lag

[neat marlin]

anyone know of a way ro remove a giant boulder that is on top of this coal vein?

[abstract locust]

so if i had super duper smart computer guy make me a mod it woukd work?

[wet iris]

nobelisks

[neat marlin]

ty

ill have to look into that