satisfactory

[fiery pewter]

Caterium then

[pearl summit]

Yes!

I loved smart splitter

[fiery pewter]

Alr but then still, ask the console players

[pearl summit]

Im not that good with satisfactory
But, mean, factory is workin
Not fastest ever
But working 😅

[west zinc]

it says that the headlight is on the up thing (dont remember whats it called) but i press it and it shows as its on the scanner now im confused af ;-;

[ivory bluff]

Oooh, not just bomb... You gonna need that sulfur for other things. Better map the nodes.

[pearl summit]

I made bomb factory with it

Love blowing shit up

[ivory bluff]

Which is good!

[insert mandatory "Explosion Megumin.gif" here]

[pearl summit]

Haha

But ya i (accidentally) threw a bunch of bombs on
Big ant tick animal thing u can bounce on

Computer didint liked that

[hearty flame]

your a monster

how dare u hurt da bean

[pearl summit]

I jist wanted to see if it will give me any resources idk
Other animals do 🤷

And ya i did felt bad abt it when i realised it was for no reason

[west zinc]

animals that attack u

[pearl summit]

Ya i learned it hard way

I do tamed lizard doggo though

Those are interesting thingies

[flint elm]

i am using a controller and when i press the d pad it moves 2 spaces instead of one anyone know why

[daring trout]

Rise n shine everyone, the factory must grow

[unkempt blade]

what's your favorite factory that must grow?

[ornate saffron]

Cybermen

But screw will do

[daring trout]

I currently have zero factories. But traditionally I like building out oil

[unkempt blade]

zero? you need to rise and shine harder then

[daring trout]

I’m only 13 hours in this current run. Working on getting hard drives and tier and research unlocking more so

[lofty juniper]

yo jason release 1.3 rq

[compact swift]

How do I stabilise power early game? Looking for coal but nothing so far.

[dense violet]

are you having a hard time finding coal or building a power plant? your msg is a bit confusing

[potent nest]

Big question where are you going to store all your materials?

[tall lantern]

storage containers and the cloud

[worn oar]

Up my butt and around the corner

[compact swift]

Locating coal specifically

[daring trout]

What biome did you start in

[leaden turret]

ficsit does not waste

[worn oar]

Exactly, which is why that's an option

[compact swift]

desert

-2609 -413

exploring is dangerous given that I only have the starting electric shock prod and nothing else.

[dense violet]

ROCKY OR DUNE?

sorry caps. coords don't mean much

[compact swift]

er, fairly flat with rocks

[dense violet]

so rocky

good spots for power are directly east of biome

2 spots with multiple coal nodes next to water

exploration is a big part of the game though 🙂

as well as unlocking gear in the MAM to help you explore

[compact swift]

yeah just trying to get started, difficult when the power drops out constantly

[dense violet]

phase 2 is wher ethe learning really starts

[compact swift]

I haven't constructed the space elevator yet, still getting the materials

[dense violet]

oh well you can't start coal power until you finihs phase 1

[compact swift]

ah

just trying to stabilise power so I can progress

biofuel is hit and miss

[dense violet]

hand mash leaves to bio mass
biomass in container to constructor to make solid bio mass
belt feed burners - should be fine

spend like 8 minutes sprinting holding e punching leaves and that should get you to coal

[worn oar]

Have a constructor process the leaves also

[compact swift]

I have that, well, alteranately processing leaves and wood depending on what I have available

early game in these sort of games is power-sluggish

[worn oar]

Yes, I believe it's made a bit slow to push you to automate things

[dense violet]

you're in the pre tutorial - just learn the veyr basics

[compact swift]

I have played Satisfactory before but a good while ago

[worn oar]

But basically enjoy the process and it becomes magical. Everything before coal is kind of a skill test to see if this is the kind of game you will enjoy

It picks up after you can automate power

[compact swift]

given how sunny this environment is you think I would be able to use solar panels

[worn oar]

They deliberately refused to add those so that there isn't a resource-free form of power

[compact swift]

that makes sense

[worn oar]

Gotta tell you it is SO nice to finally have mk6 belts

[compact swift]

I'm using Mk2 belts and mk1 miners

[worn oar]

Yeah you won't need to care about mk6 belts for a long time. It's a general comment.

Basically as your ability to exploit resources rises, so does the need to source more of them. So those are fine for now.

[compact swift]

I've played Factorio a lot so I'm not totally new

[worn oar]

Nice

So you're just mainlining the legal stuff huh

[dense violet]

a lot of factorio tactics are sub optimal choices for this game

like busses are just more work space and don't manage your sections nearly as well

[worn oar]

#screenshots message Are you sure about that? :D

[dense violet]

yes, absolutely

as you give me evidence that seems to help my argument

[compact swift]

Have they enlarged the map quite recently? when I last played it was a bit small and there was mentions of increasing it

the railways are cool

[dense violet]

not since U3.
There's been some changes though

at least not since at least u3. I don't know about before that

[compact swift]

when was U3?

[worn oar]

Same map, enhanced and with more resources though

[dense violet]

4-5 years sago?

when the game went to early access

[worn oar]

And the map is absolutely enormous so you can't really even use all the resources if you tried

Until you started building megafactories and such

[compact swift]

I like exploration and the trains can make it feel smaller

I have these ideas for biomes where physics goes strange because this is another planet, why does it have to be like Earth exactly?

[worn oar]

Is there a trick to avoiding the (bug?) where belts won't connect together on a conveyor pole?

[dense violet]

by the time you're building trains in a spot you've prrooooobbably explored it a fair bit
at least I would hope so for the planning process

[bright haven]

Hello, is there a choice between Xbox and a PS5 on SatisFactory?

[leaden turret]

in what sense

[bright haven]

Can we play with PS five and Xbox on the same server

[leaden turret]

consoles don't have dedicated servers but they can play with each other

[bright haven]

Let's imagine that I'm Xbox and my friend is PS five can I join his world

[sour mulch]

Should be able to

[bright haven]

Well I can't see the world of my friend which is PS5

[sleek cape]

This game is dope.

Are the conveyer holes wall mounts etc individual consumables (from the shop, idk if they're also unlocks in phases) or are they like blueprints

[white dawn]

Blueprints

(As with nearly everything you buy from the shop -- the only real exception is the last "resources" tab where you can buy stuff like ammo, fuel, and other build parts)

(I quoted "resources" but I actually don't remember what the real name is. :D)

[supple canopy]

I think it's parts

yea ammo is in equipment and the rest in parts

[dense violet]

I believe you might have to invite one another? the wiki might have more info. GG not fandom

[sleek cape]

Tt

[earnest condor]

Blueprints are from Milestones. Not the Shop.

[sleek cape]

Ty

[raven grotto]

a monster a day keeps the sleep at bay

[naive palm]

You can sleep when your pioneer sleeps.

[raven grotto]

I LIKE TO THINK BRO NODS OFF WHEN i TAB OUT

whoops

mustve hit caps lock instead of shift

[sleek flower]

sis* actually

[earnest condor]

Pioneers are confirmed all to be women.

[sleek flower]

though if u embrace the dark side of the force there are mods to replace your pioneer by a male model

[hollow stag]

🐛

[normal orbit]

are there? considering how many piss and moan about it :p

[sleek flower]

bUt tHiS Is a CoNStrUcTiOn gAMe iT MUST bE a MaLE cHaRActEr

[hollow stag]

what if there were some sort of 3d factory building game with a pun for title that would be cool i think

[frosty sedge]

1.2 on June second right just making sure it wasn't for smt else

[green fiber]

Actually they are skipping 1.2 and its just 1.3 now

[frosty sedge]

Ty

[hearty flame]

star wars reference?

[brittle finch]

Ain’t no way anyone says that

[leaden turret]

there are many [redacted] who a butthurt about the wimmens

[leaden turret]

#satisfactory-memes message

[leaden turret]

you think the [redacted] have the sense to a: google, b: use mods, c: not [redacted] every time there's an update that breaks their mod?

[normal orbit]

god no

[leaden turret]

map has dongs in it already, don't need them in the player model

[hollow stag]

its pioneer not pio'neil 💔

[leaden turret]

-# irony of making a pun that uses the same surname as noted fictional journlist april o'neil

[green fiber]

pioneer when piofaar shows up:

[hollow stag]

evil pioneer when piousneer walks in

[earnest condor]

It's O'neill.
With TWO L's.

[leaden turret]

-#

near!
far!
too damn close!

[hollow stag]

sorry but im not a double loser... its 2 Ws for me always...

[normal orbit]

sounds right for a guy, catching double the Ls

[vague breach]

I just finished a packaged diluted fuel energy plant, but despite having had the generators turned of at the start, and letting every manifold fill up fully, my power still isn't stable. How do I fix this, without using load balancing?

[earnest condor]

Clearly have never seen that TV show.. 🙁

[green fiber]

need more info

[vague breach]

What info do you need?

[green fiber]

your plant could look like absolute hell

we have no idea how big it is, how much you process, what the piping looks like, etc.

[normal orbit]

or "ze maffs"

[green fiber]

that affects how you can solve this issue

[hollow stag]

my conveyors belts out here looking like tangela lost its legs

[sleek flower]

i had an idea of a little meme and got it done with AI ; is it authorized on this server ?

[leaden turret]

#rules

🔸 AI Generated Content 🔸

We kindly ask you to not post any AI generated content anywhere other than in ⁠off-topic-media and clearly mark/declare it there as being AI generated.

[green fiber]

generally only in #off-topic-media as per #rules

[leaden turret]

being a clanker will get you mocked for being a clanker

better to do a crap job in mspaint than use ai

[green fiber]

crude MS paint memes can be really funny actually

[sleek flower]

i'm on work computer so quickly asked my phone, i'll do it later at home then

[raven grotto]

whats our favorite monster flavor

[hollow stag]

water 🥰

[vague breach]

I cannot send media here :(, so I'll send the planner I made for this. It seems like the last packagers in the manifold do not get enough empty packages, which does not resolve itself because a mk4 belt brings the exact amount needed per minute to the packagers

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=OEiKAAcN1YtbX0G10tmU

[normal orbit]

dunno what they taste like, but a lamia or succubus could be tasty prob :p

[leaden turret]

snek etr

[green fiber]

i see 1200/min turbofuel so i immediately have to ask
you using 2 full mk 2 pipes for this?

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> considering how much y'all like final fantasy, yuno have #final-fantasy in Off Topic? 😛

[hollow stag]

let me help! said the succorbus

[leaden turret]

also on-topic, I asked and they said that the radioactive hog pork chops don't self-cook

[raven grotto]

are metal frames always relevant?

[normal orbit]

well yea, radiation doesnt cook :p

[leaden turret]

looks at microwave

[raven grotto]

different forms :D gamma vs microwave

[normal orbit]

they could be alpha emitting hogs :p

[hollow stag]

this isnt a hoglike game

[raven grotto]

i love learning about nuclear energy.. now I dont think i could ever go into that as a career but it is fun to learn about

[leaden turret]

I just had a terrible idea for something to ask the CMs but I have pinged them too frequently for shiggles today

[leaden turret]

-# [insert joke where the punchline involves the term "ham-o-sphere"]

[vague breach]

If you see that then the link might have messed up.The only mk2 pipes I'm using the max flow rates with are for the water input. I'm producing 1920 fuel/min

Not doing turbofuel

[green fiber]

oh yep now i see it

ok other question then; how exactly did you belt the canister loops then

if you do one big belt loop, you generally can need thousands of canisters

most just shove a bunch into an industrial storage and hope it sorts itself out

[vague breach]

Grouped the refineries and unpackaging together, then bring those canisters at 480/min to packagers near water, with a storage container as a buffer in between.

[green fiber]

and empty canisters are missing just cause?
or are the fuel unpackagers backing up. or any other step inbetween

[vague breach]

Well they aren't missing, they just don't fill up the manifold in the right way. The last two packagers are not getting enough of them

[green fiber]

the last 2 in a manifold usually only receive as much as they need

they never fill up beyond minimum

feed some in by hand

[quaint cedar]

building a mega factory/base while listening to music is just peak experience

[raven grotto]

lowkey dont even need music, played 9 hours yesterday working on my first big factory... game music is all

[vague breach]

On another note, how am I supposed to plan my larger factories? I think I'm at the point where I should be using trains to transport parts to be used in other factories, and the factories is more than 50 buildings large. It just seems like planning it feels very overwhelming, and I don't really know where to even start

[green fiber]

break the big plan down into smaller sub plans and work those off one by one

any big task can be broken down into smaller ones

[simple pebble]

If you treat each part of the factory as its own smaller factory, it gets easier.

Note in advance how many belts/pipes of each resource you need, make sure there's space for them.

If it's a matter of having a lot of machines in a single process, then I like to design a portion of the room in a blueprint machine and then just use that blueprint to build the whole room.

Makes it way less stressful to fix mistakes too

[zenith quartz]

is there a way to make a long belt instead of clicking every 100 m or smth

[normal orbit]

kind of, but it will crash your game :p

[zenith quartz]

how

i aint doing it but how

cuz am running a long distance and i have to slow down to put the belts

[normal orbit]

na, cause someone will prob do it, then come piss and moan their save no longer works

just build with blueprints

[simple pebble]

Auto connect blueprints are the fastest way but will expect a flat plane, if that matters

[zenith quartz]

well it just goes through some parts so its fine

[simple pebble]

(Oh wait no, not even really)

[zenith quartz]

what

[simple pebble]

Just correcting myself lol

[normal orbit]

dont need flat surface for auto connect

[zenith quartz]

and for now i dont mind if my factories are spaghetti

[normal orbit]

just click and move

[zenith quartz]

next world for sure will be engineered right

[normal orbit]

there is a mod for longer belts, which make a diffrent type of belt. but since 1.2 is only one and half weeks away now, that mod will prob break and you have no working belts/can't load save

[zenith quartz]

i can update whenever i want right

[raven grotto]

when can i commit arson to clear these bushes

[green fiber]

you can commit kaboom by finding sulfur

[simple pebble]

Smokeless powder in the sulfur MAM tree

[raven grotto]

srs? ty

[simple pebble]

It's not actually fire

[normal orbit]

dont even need smokeless, black powder enough for pipebombs

[green fiber]

bombs only, no fire

[simple pebble]

But there's very convenient explosive solutions there

[pearl summit]

I think i finally figured out fcn oil thing

[gentle dune]

why am i procrastinating playing a video game 😭

i hate satisfactory and i love it

[vague breach]

Thing is that I don't really know how to do that. I already get stuck trying to find a good location for the factory in the first place, because either the terrain doesn't really allow for building, or I am already using the space for something else.

For example I'm trying to set up a heavy modular frame factory, using no pure recipes because I don't want to deal with water again. Since most my factories are in the rocky desert, I want to build it there. The two places for coal is already used for my general steel factory and my coal power plant. The only coal nearby is at the crater lake, which either gets me a floating factory to which I transport this coal, or I need to transport all the iron/limestone from below up here, which is just as bad, and building in the clearing to the left isn't possible as I will build my future ACU factory there, but before I can build that I need heavy modular frames automated.

[green fiber]

are you trying to fit everything at once into one place?
just as you can break tasks down into smaller ones, you can break down and/or seperate factories / production lines

also, dont forget that you can just go up.
you could stack some factories on top of your older ones, if the structure of the factory allows for it

[raven grotto]

just got slimed out by a green cat

why are you so green

[vague breach]

I mean it only makes sense to produce everything locally for this factory. The most advanced product is the heavy modular frames, and that isn't that advanced to be frank.

I don't want to set up a massive train network just yet to transport smaller products to factories if they can be produced locally. For now I'm planning on doing that just for rubber/plastic and HMFs. Getting all that figured out will probably do more than enough to explode my brains.

[green fiber]

dont forget that heavy modular frames arent a single production line.
its a combination of (with the standard recipe) modular frames, encased beams, steel pipes and screws

the steel parts can be brought in seperately from the other parts for example

building everything locally doesnt mean you have to slap the entire HMF factory in one spot

[simple pebble]

Smelly cat 😔

[raven grotto]

man i just want the purp power slug

idgaf alysha i just want my slug

[weak axle]

The zipline and parachute will be your best friend

[raven grotto]

have neither :D

[green fiber]

encased beams and pipes? both steel parts, just need a little concrete for the encased beams.
and you dont need a ton of them (items / min wise)

you WILL need to transport something and by processing things first you reduce the volume of it.

[weak axle]

Then research them :3

[raven grotto]

i can kill it with the tractor right

or is that other hostiles

[daring trout]

Some you can lol

[vague breach]

Well the way I have planned everything out everything intermingles at different stages. I need iron for the iron parts, but also for the steel, and then that steel is then used again in different places. I'll send over the planning I made for this factory so I can get a bit more detailed in my explanation of things

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Ar7fYbYvLmKwiwELxUTw

[daring trout]

Taken out the little hogs and the lion things (forgot what they are called sue me) but haven’t tried it with a Hatcher. The big ones that drop 3-5+ alien remains? I don’t think so

[raven grotto]

killed it by stunning it with the truck then hopped out and spammed my basher

now time for my sweet purp slug

[green fiber]

just cause iron is used for steel and iron parts doesnt mean you have to source the iron for both things from the same place

if theres iron near a coal node of course i would try and make steel there

if thats not an option and your available node positions are running out then at some point, something has to be brought in

[weak axle]

Get coke steel, then you only need iron near oil and can make other products too

[daring trout]

Bepis

[vague breach]

Well I don't want to set up massive train lines yet. I'm way too uneducated to manage such a network

[green fiber]

then set up a single line
or a truck line
or drag a belt

do you think i started out with trains by building a giant rail network?

[hollow stag]

satisfactory? no, i think its past tense verb

[green fiber]

At some point pulled a single rail line over from one end of rocky desert to the other JUST to move steel products
NO signals or anything

[raven grotto]

went on a slug run and got 16 shards, 9 blue, 1 yellow and 1 purp

pretty good id say

[true mulch]

the greatest advantage truck routes and railways have over belts is that you can build the network incrementally, and reuse existing parts

[green fiber]

yeah.
you can readjust / expand them later

[daring trout]

It also doesn’t lag the GPU, in my experience

[vague breach]

How? Like don't your various factories need different components at different rates?

[raven grotto]

no matter what im at max gpu usage so eh in my case

[green fiber]

uh yes?
i just chucked all steel parts into like 2 or 3 freight cars. kept em seperate
my steel plant literally only makes basic steel parts.

[raven grotto]

at a cool 64 degrees too

[green fiber]

granted, that save file probably isnt much further ahead in terms of progress then you are right now

[daring trout]

I’m getting to the point of needing a new computer. I’m having problems with the SSD. I bought my last one during COVID so it’s a few years old.

[normal orbit]

Can build vertically. I made a tower with 9x9 (or 11x11 counting lifts on outside) which makes 30 hmf/min and 30 motors/min: #screenshots message

[daring trout]

Vertical is king

When I see people building giant floating factories to negate geography pisses me off so much lol, build with the environment!! It’s more challenging that way

[vague breach]

But if like factory A needs 20 steel pipes, factory B needs 30, but factory C needs only 5, where do you even start with setting something up so that every single one gets what they need?

[sudden current]

Using Satisfactory Modeler to plan out manifolds, you just round the machine number down to the nearest whole number right?

[raven grotto]

mines pretty new (to me), the ssd is like 6 months old and its crutial so itll last. r5 5600 and an rx 580 so its pretty good and I paid all in all like 6-700 for it including 16gb of 2666 i had from a dell prebuilt

[daring trout]

Overclock or underclock machines as needed

[simple pebble]

That kinda solves itself. Unless you're sinking the pipes, they'll fill like a very large manifold, filling station 1, then 2, etc

[green fiber]

the steel plant must make at least 55/min steel pipes then.
If my current steel plant can handle that, i just expand it a bit.
and if factory A, B and C are all near each other in rocky desert anyway..... i can just belt it over (after transporting the steel over from the steel factory via train) and let the splitters sort it out.
i dont need to do precise splitting. the machines only take what they need

[daring trout]

I have a cyberpowerpc prebuilt and I’ve been having SSD issues for a long time so I won’t do them again. Part of me wants to do a custom computer cause it’s fun to customize but I also don’t know anything so maybe I should do a prebuilt again lol

[daring trout]

Also it’s been a minute but I think if you use trucks or trains you can have them sit and wait until fully unloaded?

[simple pebble]

Never used it myself but I think that's a train specific feature

[daring trout]

I haven’t played since early access don’t come for me

[green fiber]

trains have wait settings, trucks kinda lost it in 1.2

[raven grotto]

in my case it was my first time ever building a pc and i used a mix of amazon, marketplace, and ebay for all my parts, BUT with ram n stuff right now there are situations where a prebuilt is actually cheaper due to stockpiles of ram and ssds in their storage, you can see this happen a lot I feel at places like costco I always hear stuff about that

[normal orbit]

Trains yes, truck lose that in 1.2

[daring trout]

wtf why would they take it away from truck??

[green fiber]

side effect of the rework

[ornate saffron]

Really depends. In the end as long as the player is happy it's good

#design-and-architecture message

[daring trout]

Ok now I’m mad lol I was planning to take iron ingots to an area with more land to process into basic iron supplies via truck, now I’m gonna have to redo my strategy

[vague breach]

I meant if they are not all together. Like the advanced steel factory (making the encased beams and motors I need for building), HMF factory, and modular engine factory all need steel pipes, and they are all in separate parts of the rocky desert, how can you distribute the pipes such that it works?

I feel like just using one train station for 'steel output' and getting one train for each factory will not distribute the items in an even way (the first train gets all, then the second gets what was put in the time between its arrival and the departure of the first), but using just one train per part to distribute among each of the factories will prioritize one of the factories over the other

[daring trout]

Yeah I just kinda want to go all white with this next computer and those are harder to find lol it’s like ok yeah you can buy the cool case but then it’s empty… stuck building it. Not a lot of companies do prebuilt white ones. They do exist so when I’m more settled I’ll look into it

[green fiber]

If they arent all together, theres a few ways to handle it

1. Just make the train drive in one big loop, dropping off steel pipes at all 3 factories. It wastes a bunch of time due to the way train unloading works, but eventually it would just work. Each one just gets shoved full of steel until it cant handle any more and then the train takes the rest to the next factory

2. make a train with like 3 cars. one car per factory. If the steel factory has to only supply the pipes for the sake of this argument, then getting that into 3 cars isnt hard. How do i get the precise parts per minute in? You just dont merge all the steel pipes you produce with your constructors onto one belt.
   I can adjust clockrate and seperate constructors so they all make exactly what factory A, B and C need and belt the outputs into the 3 cars
   you can build stations in a way so only specific cars are unloaded. You dont HAVE to unload all cars at every stop

[vague breach]

I think the second isn't really that much of an option, as that would mean that there are a lot of trains on the network, which will eventually just create a lot of traffic

[green fiber]

no

its 55/min steel

that isnt mega traffic

thats a singular train. Running on a single track loop

even if it was like 300/min steel pipes, a single train could probably do it

because its 3 seperate cars

and i think you dont know how much those cars can handle.
so take this with a grain of salt, but they can do quite a bit

[bitter lodge]

using a train to transport 55/min of any item seems overkill?

[green fiber]

who cares

[bitter lodge]

wouldn't it be easier to produce that much steel at wherever you are trying to depot it?

[green fiber]

If i want to overengineer it ill do it

[bitter lodge]

Of course, not saying not to. Just suggesting something else.

[green fiber]

If i wanted to be stubborn i would literally drag a single belt over kilometers or just run a truck

[vague breach]

I mean in like the long run. If I do this strategy for pipes, beams, plates, rods, plastic, rubber and everything else you can imagine, it will create a lot of traffic

[green fiber]

Future me problem.
Literally not a present me problem

I will not give a damn.

Future me knows more than present me and will have more options

I have stopped worrying so much about futureproofing or worrying about future problems a long time ago.

I just do what i can do and leave the rest for when its time

[vague breach]

Then you’ll need to build the factory near coal and iron, which isn’t always ideal.

Especially in the case of rubber/plastic. the way I got everything planned out for this phase I need to transport max 30/min, but the distance is too great to do it by belt

[bitter lodge]

technically no distance is to great for belt :)

you can do a 1m belt, or an entire cross the map belt

[green fiber]

Future you will know more than present you and will figure out a solution.
either by adapting the current train network or doing something else

you literally will not know unless you like stressing out over things in the future

[vague breach]

I’d rather not belt from the west shore to the centre of the rocky desert

[bitter lodge]

that is the best part! you totally can!

but drones would be the easiest for sure lmao

[green fiber]

at some point in time you will need to transport something somewhere.
Who knows, maybe that random train line will come in handy.
You totally can just do spaghetti rail lines from point A to B without ever doing a "real" rail network

Same with belts and trucks of course

[abstract heron]

has anyone seen Guru?

[green fiber]

probably ready to go home / already home? Friday afternoon

[abstract heron]

i was going to give him my save but i have not seen him

[green fiber]

just DM him the save

if you have some kind of agreement of you giving him a save

[abstract heron]

Oh okay

[timber trench]

hello

finally belong here

[vague breach]

I don’t have those yet, and I’ve never made it to that point before

[stone python]

nows the time

doooo iiiiiiiiiiiit

[naive palm]

drones are one of the few romantic options in satisfactory

[molten haven]

how can I change satisfactory settings Vulcan > DirectX 11 without entering the game, because the game not allowing me to enter the game its just closing itself

[slate veldt]

hey, if i'm on steam can i play with my ps5 friend ?

[tall lantern]

no

[slate veldt]

wait fr ?

[tall lantern]

PC to PC, console to console

[normal orbit]

dunno about vulkan, but you can use -dx11 as a launch parameter. I can only guess -vulkan is one too

[molten haven]

thank you

[ivory bluff]

Phew... Well, time to boot up Satisfactory again. Back to HD hunting, spider dodging, and maybe condensed coal factory set-up in order to prepare Turbofuel.

And maybe prepare trains ?

[hollow stag]

welding irl rn so i can improve my satisfactory skills

[sleek halo]

can sm1 help? https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1507438374468714668

[quick hound]

So, I have factories for aluminum, singularity cells, power shards, fuel, ionized fuel, and gas mask filters/ionized filters. What factory should I make next?

And basically most things including nuclear

Should I work on a ficsonium factory?

[white dawn]

Ficsonium has a pretty specific niche. Namely, folks who have hard requirements for the following:

1. Burn Plutonium
2. Still have "clean" nuclear

If you've got any wiggle room at all on those, Ficsonium is a pretty hard sell. It's very expensive resourcewise and doesn't give you much extra power compared to the previous steps

Also, it's possible to build nuclear big enough such that you can't actually process all your Plutonium Waste into Ficsonium, though that's at scales which are bigger than most folks are interested in building to

[simple pebble]

Getting to burn plutonium is the real benefit of making ficsonium. But it's easy to make that conclusion when the idea of just piling up waste gives me an aneurysm

[ivory bluff]

Well. I guess the usual videogame rule also applies to Satisfactory: always check behind a waterfall.

[quick hound]

Give me some ideas on some factories I should make

[quick hound]

No, no.. you should pollute the water so irreversibly and drink the waterfall water

[white dawn]

Heh, my own general strategy is just:

1. Pick something not yet automated
2. Automate it!
3. Repeat (or go exploring for a bit if building more Factory doesn't appeal at the time)

[quick hound]

Yeah.. I did almost all of that but idk what to make

[sleek halo]

is it normal that the cyber truck only turns right like when im turning left it goes right

[true mulch]

anything you need to progress to the next phase

[white dawn]

Though if you want a design constraint: factory carts only. You can belt along manifolds for producing a single product, but every step in the factory must use factory carts to get the material to the next stage. :)

[quick hound]

Did that

[white dawn]

Yep, Working As Intended. :)

[raven grotto]

didnt you learn anything from doc hudson

[raven grotto]

how should i build a kilometer road

[white dawn]

1. Don't!
   -or-
2. Laboriously, by hand
   -or-
3. Slightly more easily, with a set of modular blueprints

[raven grotto]

should it be just like two straights that make a somewhat sharp turn?

its for far away quartz and someone told me to use trucks

[white dawn]

If you're building roads for vehicle purposes, btw, I'd definitely recommend option #1 unless you intrinsically enjoy the building of roads for its own sake. Building roads for vehicles defeats one of the major advantages to vehicles, which is the near-total lack of infrastructure required. (And vehicles work great on the map's "natural" roads)

If you enjoy building roads just for the sake of building roads, of course, then have at it by whatever method you like. :)

Yeah, for tractors/trucks, I personally literally never build roads.

[raven grotto]

the only thing is that this desert doesnt have any natural roads

[white dawn]

The map is full of natural paths that vehicles work great on. If I'm extracting (or producing) something which isn't right near one of those, I may belt the materials over a little ways so that the truck station can be on one of those roads

[raven grotto]

but i mean its dunes

[white dawn]

I admit I don't have a lot of experience automating vehicles over there 'cause I don't like building in dune desert in the first place. :D

[raven grotto]

realistically they should be perfect without the "roads" right

[white dawn]

Nearly always by the time I'm building over there, I've got drones, and am most likely to just be using drones.

[raven grotto]

first ever game and moved here from the plains :D

[white dawn]

But I'd wager you can find paths through the dunes that vehicles can run reliably on

However: there's a new version of the game dropping on June 2 which overhauls automated-vehicle handling

The current implementation of vehicles is quite solid but requires a fair amount of learning + practice to know how to make them reliable

Once you have the knowledge then they're rock solid, but there's a lot about them right now which isn't necessarily intuitive, so it'll take you some time

You may want to wait until June 2 before building those routes out, 'cause the system is basically totally different (and should be a lot more straightforward)

[raven grotto]

i mean i also could just make a really long conveyor belt

oh I was wrong so wrong... its not 1km away its 1.6....

[zenith pecan]

I generally use long belts a lot.

[white dawn]

The alternative is to build your factory right next to the quartz, of course. :)

I generally try to set things up so that I don't need the logistics in the first place

[raven grotto]

too late already settled in lol

[white dawn]

You can always just start a new factory

[raven grotto]

im close to coal, water, iron, copper, and limestone

[white dawn]

I'm Team Lots Of Factories All Over The Map, myself. :)

[zenith pecan]

I need to build yet another quartz factory for uranium fuel.

[white dawn]

Doesn't matter if you've already got a lot of production in one spot; you can always decide to site a new factory somewhere else anyway. :)

[raven grotto]

then i could belt it over to the main if I wanted to correct?

[white dawn]

If you want to, but why would you need to? Can just leave it there.

For personal storage we've got Dimensional Depot, which, admittedly, takes a fair bit of effort + time to get built out to full functionality

[raven grotto]

dont even know what that is

[white dawn]

But "central storage" is, for the most part, definitely a labor of love nowadays

[white dawn]

Aha, you may have found some funky purple spheres hanging about. If so, start researching 'em in the MAM. :)

(If not, be on the lookout for funky purple spheres)

[raven grotto]

ohhh i have like 8 or so of those rn

[white dawn]

I recommend checking your MAM frequently for anything you can research

Nothing in the MAM is strictly speaking necessary, but there's an absurd amount of wonderful QoL stuff in there

[raven grotto]

just like how my first hard drive gave me stiched iron plates

so fire boutta redo my rip setup i think now

[white dawn]

Anyway, don't be afraid to decentralize

There's no need to try and build everything all in one spot, or even store everything all in one spot. The map's meant to be expanded into, and there's a ton of resources everywhere

[white dawn]

I'd also personally recommend not tearing down factories. Let your existing RIP factory keep making what it's making

Whenever something else needs more RIPs, just make more RIPs right inside the new factory

[raven grotto]

right now im stuck on sam fluctuators because I havent upgraded my steel production to do pipes yet

ok ok i see

[white dawn]

Rebuild stuff if you really want to, of course, but beware burnout! It's easy to end up in an endless rebuilding rut where you're spending ages just to get yourself back to the same level of production you already had

[raven grotto]

i could just add another floor huh

[white dawn]

Or just build it somewhere else entirely

[raven grotto]

true

[white dawn]

Centralization is a devious trap; it feels "obvious" and easy in the early game, but IMO it's a trap

It's far easier (IMO) to build totally-isolated factories near the nodes they need

So like you may end up producing fresh RIPs in dozens of factories over the course of your playthrough, but then you never need to worry about figuring out how to get your RIPs from a central location, or how to route the same resource to a dozen different places inside a huge "base," etc

[raven grotto]

at my current factory i have steel, concrete, RIP, and soon to be wire/cable, and metal frames

I see I see

[white dawn]

Yeah, the early game especially is pretty easy to centralize, but I suspect you'll find before too long that it becomes unweildy and difficult to manage

[raven grotto]

the drive to this quartz node isnt even bad because its just a straight cut across the dunes

only problem is that i dont know if theres a water source* over there

[white dawn]

Don't be afraid to just leave your existing factories as-is and build new, is all. :) Your early stuff will still be providing your building materials, etc! :)

Yeah, it can sometimes be a bit of a challenge to find a nice building spot

[raven grotto]

wait rivers arent enough for extractors right

[white dawn]

(And if you do decide to rebuild a factory anyway, I'd recommend building the new factory first before tearing down your old one. That way you won't end up with a materials deficit while building)

Most of them aren't, correct.

Though there's sometimes little wider "pond" areas along their path which could be sufficient

[raven grotto]

im cooked then

[elfin smelt]

as long as is wide and deep enough...

[raven grotto]

only one way to find out ig

[white dawn]

But yeah, if your factory needs water, it's a very good habit to check the water near where you want to build to make sure the game'll let you place an extractor first

Many a Pioneer's factory plans have gotten upended by thinking that there's water nearby when there really isn't

[raven grotto]

only reason I need water is for a coal power plant

[white dawn]

(I think there's even areas out on the "oceans" still where the water sort of Isn't Actually Water. :D)

[white dawn]

There are a lot of places on the map where there's 3-4 coal nodes right next to water. It's well worth seeking those spots out for coal power

It may be a bit of a hike, for sure, but you can just drag your power lines over there and set the coal up locally

[elfin smelt]

you can always transport the coal to the water

specially with trucks/tractors

[zenith pecan]

I usually spin coal into diamond.

[elfin smelt]

since they are also fuel :D

[white dawn]

While that is true, IMO it is not worth it

Just build right where there's coal+water right there

[raven grotto]

my favorite is the spaghetti conveyor

[white dawn]

There's a lot of spots on the map which were literally handcrafted to be great coal power spots; you'll have a much easier and less frustrating time building your coal power if you make use of those instead

But yes: if you decide to build coal power in a location where there is not both coal+water, then bring the coal to the water instead of the other way around

Much easier to transport solids than liquids, especially at that stage of the game

[elfin smelt]

conveyors are fine, but I advocate everyone should at least try every transport method at least once to learn its benefits and disavantages

trucks are cool too

[earnest condor]

Not me putting Diamonds into Coal Gens expecting them to generate more power. 😏

[zenith pecan]

😜

[worn oar]

Is 144 KM a lot of conveyor belts?

[zenith pecan]

No.

All my bauxite belts put together would likely add up to 100km on their own 🤣

[quick hound]

THE SQUARE WILL GO INTO THE CIRCLE HOLE!

[odd remnant]

I need help, i have a backup file and i was stupid to try experiement mode and now I can't load into my old saves cause it somehow shows my saves from the experiment version

Anyone ideas how to fix it

[sour mulch]

it sure is a trap but does provide unique logistical challenges

[green fiber]

if you have backups then just put them in the save file folder and remove the saves you made in exp

[raven grotto]

bro wtf are those gas plants and what do i do ab them

[white dawn]

Is it possible you've still got an autosave from before you hopped in?

[odd remnant]

Okay so instead just deleting the folder from the steam folder just only focus on the save game part. Right? @green fiber

[bitter lodge]

nobelisk remove them

[green fiber]

not sure which folder you mean

[sour mulch]

how do u have the pioneer role?

[green fiber]

Im pipe wizard

[raven grotto]

sadly not unlocked yet

[odd remnant]

I only deleted the factory folder from the game directly folder in steam but I have a back up of the samething i created from what i did before going over to beta

So just focus on save game file then?

[bitter lodge]

if i remember correctly, its just apart of the sulfur mam research tree?

[white dawn]

Yep -- though you do need Steel to be able to produce the stuff (and the unlock itself might require some steel too)

[bitter lodge]

I think you can get it at any point basically. but i could be wrong, been a while since I got them

oh ya steel is a checkpoint in game for sure.

[raven grotto]

correct but I dont have my steel production up and im trying to get quartz going but i found a drop pod or whatever

[white dawn]

Though with doggo farming and/or crash site scavenging, you can probably access them prior to actually having steel

[bitter lodge]

you could...tank it?

make health things and just spam them when low

[worn oar]

Everybody wants 240 heavy modular frames per minute. But nobody wants to build the 13,465 machines for it.

[naive palm]

so true

[white dawn]

Why not round up to the full 270/min? :D Gotta saturate that mk3 belt

[zenith pecan]

I might build more hmf, I only produce 45.

[thin pilot]

380 more smart plating then im finally in phase 2

[raven grotto]

BANG

[bitter lodge]

I can't even imagine what I would use that for-

[odd remnant]

@green fiber YOU ARE AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU

[raven grotto]

did it with like 3 biomass burners 12 wood and 100 leaves lol

[odd remnant]

I thought I lost 300 hrs of gameplay

[naive palm]

what happened - savefile issue?

[odd remnant]

Yeah I did experiment mode on my old PC and I forgot to go back and it loaded that file and I did try to restore but I didn't do it right

Never again lol

I'll just stay with base game

[worn oar]

240 nuclear pasta per minute, of course

[bitter lodge]

that is so fucking much ._.

[worn oar]

Well when you have to produce 100,000...

[bitter lodge]

omg. is it even possible to make that much!?

[naive palm]

I probably will mod the game someday, but I still haven't run out of stuff to do in the base game.

[bitter lodge]

you need a ton of copper for nuclear pasta I thought?

[naive palm]

It's like a black hole of stuff to do. There's always something to twiddle or optimize.

[worn oar]

Yeah you only need 115,200 copper. No big deal.

[sleek cape]

Tips for beginner who's never built vertical but about to try?

[naive palm]

leave room. Build taller than you think you need.

[bitter lodge]

raw or ingots?

[worn oar]

Raw

[sleek cape]

Build space first, or build and fill each for as i go?

Floor

[worn oar]

A mere 288,000 ingots

Per minute

[bitter lodge]

that isn't possible?

there isn't enough raw copper in the game, and even if you use conversion?

[zenith pecan]

Not only leave headroom on a floor, allow space at the ends to allow conveyor lifts.

[thin pilot]

what multiplier needs 100,000 pasta 😢

[worn oar]

100x

[thin pilot]

jesus christ

I only need 10k then

[worn oar]

11000 but yes

[thin pilot]

ive got 45 min of smart plating to unlock phase 2

[sleek cape]

Actually might wait until I have more than just concrete foundations and basic walls lol

Are there any vertical wall splitters? Or are all splitters horizontal

[thin pilot]

shit well im using all nodes pure to let me make even bigger factories

[worn oar]

You can place a splitter directly into a conveyor lift

[bitter lodge]

you can place splitters on the vertical belts

and mergers :)

[naive palm]

That will depend on your approach. I personally build everything as needed. So maybe

|Final product floor
|==================
|Intermediary products
|==================
|Raw material refinement

Planning is good, but the best advice anyone gave me in this game is always leave way more room than you think you need. So I'll look at the tallest machine I need on a floor and leave a whole extra wall length above it. Makes the area feel more 'open' and gives you options for running wires, conveyors, lights and such.

[sleek cape]

Can I split them to go 1 up 1 down, or do they only split horizontally?

[bitter lodge]

I would add small logistics floor between each as well

[thin pilot]

@bitter lodge whats compelled you to play on 100x 🤣

[bitter lodge]

IM NOT!?

[thin pilot]

thought you was

[worn oar]

You can place the splitter anywhere on the lift

[thin pilot]

must be a miss understanding from the messages before

[worn oar]

Well kind of

[thin pilot]

mb 🤣

[bitter lodge]

ya no Ryzor is I think

I am playing vanilla no mods, no changes, nothing

[naive palm]

This is a wonderful approach later in the game. You can make some clean looking factories belting and wiring everything underneath.

[bitter lodge]

I haven't even beaten the game once

[thin pilot]

100x is vial by the sound of it

5000 smart plating for phase 2

[spare barn]

first time i ever played satisfactory. i was like 19 years old, played 3 days straight with like 3-4 hrs of sleep, i got heavy headaches and got literally sick.

The night i slept i had a nightmare. i was an iron plate, there were pipes and conveyor belts getting built around me, i was scared to my shit, woke up sweating and couldn't sleep that night, i uninstalled satisfactory that night. came back 2 years ago. i feel better.

[naive palm]

Satisfactory is a challenging game to beat. You will learn about yourself, your limits, your strengths and weaknesses before the end.
Luckily, I believe there is much joy to find in the journey, even if you never make it to the end.

[bitter lodge]

though satisfactory is great because I am gonna work on a tower that has every ingot possible being inputted at the bottom. 3600 of each ingot.

[worn oar]

No I'm not. I merely answered the question of why the hell you would ever need 240 HMF/min

The answer is pasta

[bitter lodge]

ohhhh. That makes so much more sense

[worn oar]

You could also use it to place 9.6 nuclear plants per minute 🙂

[neat marlin]

how many total hours do you guys have on this game?

[green fiber]

4 morbillion

[neat marlin]

sounds about right

[worn oar]

681, 362 on modeler. Bought in February.

[naive palm]

I'm still pretty new. I only have 984 hours in game.

[worn oar]

Woohooo finally finished automating all parts. Went for 5 BWD/minute.

[worn oar]

Ah, almost done with onboarding then? You're going to love phase 1.

[thin pilot]

BWD?

[worn oar]

Ballistic warp drive, the most complicated item

[thin pilot]

ive had enough with automating smart plating 🤣

[green fiber]

you're gonna die like that

[thin pilot]

solid 16 hours of phase 1

[simple pebble]

Awesome, congratulations!!

[naive palm]

Satisfactory 🤝 Baldur's Gate 3
"I have 300 hours and I'm still in act 1"

[worn oar]

Remember: it's a marathon, not a sprint. The enjoyment is primarily from doing, not getting anxious about what's left

[thin pilot]

ive forced myself into an ultra marathon

[green fiber]

its about perseverance

[thin pilot]

ive tried to do 10 smart plating per min for my 10x but 8 was just a nice number with mk 2 belt throughput

[green fiber]

10x is hell tbh.

[thin pilot]

belts and biomass burners are ruini9ng my life

[bitter lodge]

you can't really play the game until mk3 miners and mk6 belts.

[green fiber]

not the "oh this is so complex" kinda hell but "im gonna die of old age" hell

[thin pilot]

yep

got 40 more min of smartplating

[green fiber]

which to me sounds like a bunch of boredom so honestly no thanks

[naive palm]

belts and biomass burners are your friend ❤️

[thin pilot]

290 more till phase 2 is unlocked 😄

[white dawn]

Yeah, none of the v1.2 multipliers interest me personally; just feels like "build bigger" or "wait longer," neither of which I particularly care to do. :D Glad the options exist for folks who want it, though!

[thin pilot]

it is abit but ive got all nodes so I wanna force myself to build bigger and take it slower

[green fiber]

power and recipe cost are interesting tbh,
and so is randomization

they actually shift the dynamic a lot

[thin pilot]

bc phase 3 unlock is like 10k versitile framework ect

[green fiber]

10x elevator tbh only with 0.5 or 0.25x recipe cost
not with any increase of cost

[thin pilot]

I wanna build like big plants for the seperate items then have tractors bring them to a big central phase 2 space elevator factory

[bitter lodge]

elevator parts really felt like "automate tiny amount then fuck off"

[thin pilot]

assembling the items

[bitter lodge]

like it feels like you can't really mass produce them until after you unlock the phase after them.
but it gives time to explore or make factories for other things like weapons or fuel

[thin pilot]

ye phase 1 is abit shit

but with the larger belt limit in phase 2 it should be alot more bareable

[earnest condor]

?

[bitter lodge]

now that i got the best belts and mk3 miners. I just wanna tear everything down and mass scale

[earnest condor]

As someone doing 100x....?

[green fiber]

scroll down a bit, i already gave my statement.
Not gonna repeat myself

10x or 100x is a no from me

[earnest condor]

I genuinely see 50x as the sweetspot.

[thin pilot]

crazy 😢 2500 smart plating with mk2 belts and biomass burners

[bitter lodge]

[thin pilot]

thats way to much in my eyes

[bitter lodge]

the multiplayer just means you gotta wait longer at that point?

[earnest condor]

I did 5k just fine.

[thin pilot]

crazy fair enough

what was your grid like?

[earnest condor]

50x is enough of a slowdown that you have to actually interact with each phase because you can't speedrun, but not so much slower that you want to afk.

[daring trout]

Is 3 pure iron nodes (hoping to use the wet iron alt recipe on top of the nodes already being pure) too much for iron basics?

[earnest condor]

No such thing as too much.

[green fiber]

wet iron

[bitter lodge]

depends on what is enough

are you using mk2 miners?

[earnest condor]

I think 18 burners?

Also ew... Pure Iron.

[daring trout]

I only have mk1 at the moment but the idea is to max them out when it’s time

[thin pilot]

im at the point where im making the 500 smart plating for phasae 2 but my grid cant support me doinmg copper sheets yet

for pipes

[thin pilot]

really to make 5000 you must have been waiting ages

[daring trout]

These iron nodes are on the coast it feels dumb not to use water to help out

[earnest condor]

Not really. Everything went to Smart Plating with like... maybe 1/min of other stuff.

[thin pilot]

ah

I mean my consumption is like 100-150 below but my max consumption is over my produced power

[raven grotto]

can someone tell me why when i use snap mode to say line constructers up properly they want to snap to my door

[thin pilot]

ive sent the state of my grid in screenshots

[earnest condor]

Because you have a door?

[bitter lodge]

so that is 360 raw iron getting turned into what like 650 iron ingots?

[thin pilot]

think I can squeeze copper sheets in there

[earnest condor]

My Phase 2 grid was 9.6 GW.

[thin pilot]

thats what im gonna aim for

[bitter lodge]

650 iron ingots is not really enough for iron basics. You make a lot of things with iron ingots @-@

[thin pilot]

I think

you using all node pure or vanilla?

[earnest condor]

The only thing I touched was Elevator cost.

[thin pilot]

thats brutal im using all nodes bc its my first time fully solo satis

got into phase 3 with a friend

[earnest condor]

?

"Using all nodes"?

[thin pilot]

ive got all nodes pure on my 10x

[earnest condor]

Sadge.

[thin pilot]

thought I put pure

first time playing solo

and I dont want to rush and I want to build as big as I can

so I did 10x but all nodes pure

[earnest condor]

Yes. And, imo, you're tainting the experience by giving yourself extra stuff per node instead of needing to solve the puzzle of capturing multiple nodes at scale the meet production goals.

Odds of you being able to turn all pure off later are going to be very low since you'll be used to it.

[bitter lodge]

10x is one thing for a first time solo- but why not just try out vanilla with no changes?

[earnest condor]

The only time I see all pure as a good option is if you're increasing the cost of all recipes.
But that is my personal opinion.

[thin pilot]

bc I tried rushign on the normal one with a friend

then was at the point of hand feeding the items to unlock phase 4

and just ruined the playthrough

[bitter lodge]

I handfed my phase 4 lmao

[thin pilot]

I wanna try build as big as I can which is why im using it

[bitter lodge]

I also tear down my factories and rebuild them a lot...but I also don't automate every single thing lmao

[thin pilot]

think that was another thing

I didnt wanna tear down my factories

[bitter lodge]

the factory using mk1 miners and mk2 belts ain't doing nothing compared to the factory with mk2 miners and mk4 belts

nothing says you can't upgrade a factory? tear it down. put more resources into it, and make more

[thin pilot]

idk I just didnt want to do it

[bitter lodge]

that is totally valid as well.

Your world your chaos at the end of the day :>

[thin pilot]

then I got to phase 4 and was gonna try and buy the poarts with tickets and stuff from crash sites to start a proper factory

didnt work well and just ruined it for me

with 10x and all nodes pure it opens the doors for me to make big factories but enough time to make all the other items

[bitter lodge]

I guess so

The only thing stopping you from making big factories is how much you plan to automate

[thin pilot]

ye

[bitter lodge]

you can have pure nodes all day, but if you have low production of like motors. You are gonna be hurting to place machines

[zenith pecan]

Power of your machine and ram also can be limiting.

[thin pilot]

im good pc wise I think

[thin pilot]

im gonan aim for like 10 a min of items like that

[bitter lodge]

that ain't enough-

[thin pilot]

where as with like versitile frame work I wanna try do 50 ish

[thin pilot]

really just for like building?

[bitter lodge]

if you are running pure nodes, you are gonna be pouring in a fuck ton of resources.
Meaning way more machines

plus your belts are gonna be your bottle neck all game

[thin pilot]

but would 10 a min be enough just for like a dimensional supply

for building

[raven grotto]

can someone tell me what the hotspots on the SCIM map are for?

[earnest condor]

You're on all pure nodes and your production goals are like 20x less than what I make on baseline nodes? 😭

[earnest condor]

Radiation.

[raven grotto]

ok thank you

[thin pilot]

really?

you got 1000 framing a min??

am I dreaming to small

[earnest condor]

20 x 10 = 200.
Not sure how you got 1,000 out of that?

[bitter lodge]

If we are talking motors.
it takes 10 motors to make one refinery.
I doubt you plan to just make 1 refinery. If you are gonna use a pure node with a mk2 miner overclocked fully. That is 600 raw resource.
So you need at least mk5 belt.
Lets say you got all that.
Now you need refineries out the ass to handle that much in take at once.

so ya. pure nodes are cool and all. but don't forget about belt limits as well.

[thin pilot]

I thought you was on about framing sorry

[earnest condor]

☝️

[bitter lodge]

My answer is no.

[thin pilot]

ah

didnt know stuff was that expensive 🤣

[bitter lodge]

I produced 10 motors per min on vanilla all settings and it felt like it wasn't enough at all.

I was constantly waiting for motors to make refineries

[thin pilot]

havent really looked into it yet

[worthy python]

is compacked coal better

[bitter lodge]

you are gonna have to make some really big factories

[worthy python]

then noram

[worn oar]

Oh, I have personal experience with this. For me, 10/minute motors was absolutely perfect UNTIL I was ready for rocket fuel. Then it was suddenly insufficient and I had to quadruple to 40/minute to get enough.

I just did that a couple days ago

[thin pilot]

if I put my save into that satis interactive map does it say how many resources are avalable with all nodes on pure

bc looking at it in a calc making 50 actually isnt to bad

[worn oar]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Resource_Node#Types

[thin pilot]

im playing with all nodes on pure

[reef basin]

then use that table and just sum nodes

[worn oar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1theihk/if_anyone_was_wondring_these_are_all_the/

I wish Satisfactory Modeler let you enforce the map limits or even set them

[bitter lodge]

mk1 miner on a pure node fully overclocked is 300 resources. you still need mk4 belt ._.

[bitter lodge]

you are gonna wanna rush belts asap ._.

[worn oar]

Good luck to anyone who wants to use all 6,000 pure uranium lmao

[zenith pecan]

I only use 2100 uranium ...

[raven grotto]

how do i make sure spiders dont spawn fs

[reef basin]

use Tools, they let you do that 🙂

[worn oar]

Yeah, but if you decided to do all pure nodes you would have 6,000 available

[zenith pecan]

I don't think I want my processing facility at triple the size, it's already 800 metres by 450.

[thin pilot]

yep sadly

not even thinking about over clocking yet

purely bc of belts

[worn oar]

CONSUME

[zenith pecan]

It does produce 0 radiation though.

[bitter lodge]

math time after being gone for a month

turning 8k baux into 7200 alum ingts

[worn oar]

What to do with 6,000 uranium waste/minute that isn't plutonium?

[thin pilot]

going to be alot of storage containers

[narrow canyon]

Why?

[zenith pecan]

Use sloppy > electrode > pure, and that 8k baux in, is 8k ingots out.

[thin pilot]

just reallised I have like 100k of nearly everything need to enlargen my view a abit

[earnest condor]

Instant Scrap my beloved.

[bitter lodge]

electrode requires sulfur

I already have all my baux and coal present I don't wanna fetch more resources

[earnest condor]

Instant requires sulfur.
Electrode requires oil.

[zenith pecan]

Coke, not sulphur for electrode.

I still have 6000 ingots available to use.

[bitter lodge]

that does sound tempting

[narrow canyon]

Turn it all into wire 🙂

[latent prawn]

sounds like the perfect amount for 120 heat fused frames/min

[zenith pecan]

Some will be sent for heat sinks to reprocess nuclear waste, a handful for weapons.

[narrow canyon]

Actual uses? Boring 😉

[zenith pecan]

I'm not saving the waste that will appear from using 50.4 fuel elements, no thanks.

[bitter lodge]

now to dump 5k water

[thin pilot]

how does one get rid of excess water or do you like put it back into the system?

[bitter lodge]

limestone is typically the go to

wet concrete

[zenith pecan]

I send water to further processes, my bauxite for example, two thirds of the intake refineries are wastewater only.

[unkempt blade]

I fill up trucks with packaged water and drive them into the hole in the middle of the map over the void

[silk rose]

do you do that to carts as well

[bitter lodge]

where is the pic with the baux refinery options ;-;

[unkempt blade]

no I love my carts so they get to stay outside of the void

trucks on the other hand are garbage vehicles

[silk rose]

i agree

[raven grotto]

swear to god my tractor dissapeared

[unkempt blade]

did you fill it up with packaged water then drive it into the hole?

[raven grotto]

no

[unkempt blade]

oh, then I don't know where it could be

[raven grotto]

I cant even package water

[silk rose]

that tractor is a spy

[silk rose]

did you spycheck

[thin pilot]

30 more till I can get phase 2

cant wait to get better belts

[silk rose]

mk3 belt is the sweet spot

on the bell curve

[thin pilot]

hopw so ill be using thwm for a while

[raven grotto]

steel is so simple to make too

much more compact than RIP

[silk rose]

stacks more

[raven grotto]

i think i make 10 RIP/m vs like 22.5 steel/min

that too

[thin pilot]

whats better steel rods or iron rod recipe for bigger builds?

[raven grotto]

all in all its much more usable

[silk rose]

iron

[earnest condor]

Better is subjective.

[silk rose]

i dont remember a recipe that needs many rods

[thin pilot]

plan on making 100 versitile a minute

[silk rose]

why

[thin pilot]

its 300 rods a minute

10x space elevator

[earnest condor]

Me on 100x who made only 90/min 😄

[silk rose]

versatile is not much needed later in game

[earnest condor]

Um... yes it is?

[worthy python]

am prould of my self verry simple but kinda cool #design-and-architecture message

[silk rose]

for what

[earnest condor]

Every additional Phase of the Space Elevator.

[thin pilot]

100 is just a nicer number 🤣

and it would be good sink value actually

[earnest condor]

Not when using Molded Beam it isn't.

[thin pilot]

didnt think about alternate recipes

[thin pilot]

what was the resoning for using molded beams does it not make it a larger build because of a large limestone input

[earnest condor]

1. Odd that you're concerned about build size when you yourself stated "I want to build as big as I can."
2. Molded gets you more Beams per ingot.

[thin pilot]

I was just wondering about why you was using it when it adds another 3000 input of a different resource thats all

[earnest condor]

Something else you need Limestone for? 🙂

[thin pilot]

idk

[daring trout]

Roughly yes. For iron plates, rods, reinforced plates and rotors, you know that stuff

[gentle dune]

Me trying to automate reinforced iron plates for the first time:
Ok overclock my braincells or research underclocking my machines

[worn oar]

Well my singularity cell build sucks majorly. 34% uptime after... 2.5 hours of running. Takes too long to stabilize I guess

[compact knot]

@earnest condor https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Limestone

[worn oar]

I somehow accidentally muted ADA :( how do I bring her back?

She may be an evil AI overlord, but she's MY evil AI overlord, dammit!

[slim frost]

1.1 or 1.2? i had ADA crash in 1.2 earlier.. think she is ok now tho, as sounds seems to be improved in 1.2

[worn oar]

1.1

[slim frost]

check your audio settings, if you have turned something off there.. i honstly dont know anything else to check, maybe some1 else

try reset to default maybe?

[hard wolf]

I had an issue with that once where it happened mid sentence and restarting fixed it

[void lance]

i somehow got F to only dismantle blueprints... how do i get it back to normal?

[earnest condor]

R

[void lance]

thank you, they need to add that to the middle thing when you dismantle

[earnest condor]

Middle Thing?

[merry canyon]

ok trucks are insane for 1.2

[earnest condor]

Trucks always were insane 😉

1.2 just removes most of the "human error" element that stopped people from seeing it 😛

[ornate saffron]

YA, for me its human retardation

[abstract heron]

Trains better

[simple pebble]

not strictly!

[earnest condor]

Porkalo doesn't have that restriction 😏

[daring trout]

Unlocking concrete or asphalt from the sink is peak. More concrete sure but no metal

[earnest condor]

Foundation maxing.

[hard wolf]

does anyone have tips for nova curves and doing small rotations? I'm trying to use the pillars to achieve a 10 degree rotation and it's not working xwx

imo you should unlock everything in the awesome shop asap bc it's all very good and fosters creativity

[clever spindle]

so, am i wrong in assuming there is a bug that the explorer car cant go faster than 100?

[hard wolf]

it seems like the answer is to rotate a foundation twice for 10 degrees since the pillars don't seem to want to rotate on top of other pillars like the painted beams do

I meant to respond to myself. sorry :c

[sudden current]

Do you guys ever use a storage container as a buffer for an input just so you have some extra on hand? Or is this messy and annoying in practice?

[hard wolf]

yes, but I think a better option is to use a smart splitter and overflow excess into a container. you could also put another overflow smart splitter on the line between the previous splitter and the container and feed that into an awesome sink for passive coupon points

[earnest condor]

Input?
Storage is the end of all things.

[sudden current]

Gotcha. Haven't unlocked those yet.

[earnest condor]

Smarts are available in Phase 1.

[hard wolf]

they're so good

[ornate saffron]

top speed of 107/km

!wikisearch Explorer

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Explorer

[earnest condor]

Can go faster if you drive it into the void and hit a down-facing jump pad right as you leave the ground.

[hard wolf]

I hope the fuel speed boosts of drones extends to vehicles soon :/

also pioneer VTOL that's fast and has a boost button :3c

[clever spindle]

aw dang. i just saw the speedomter go to 150 and thought it was gonna go faster. as well as the pulsing of the speed at the 107 max felt odd

[bitter lodge]

ONE BELT

its always just one belt missing that fucks an entire factory

and the explorer can go fast as hell. there is a mod for it as well @-@

[clever spindle]

yeh but you can do anything with mods. so i did not really that that into consideration

but thats one way to solve it i guess

[hard wolf]

missing or the wrong speed xwx

[bitter lodge]

if it holds momentum....

full send it straight down

[daring trout]

Using a storage as an input buffer should only really be needed when vehicles are being used to import. However I will sometimes do the fluid buffer since liquids are a pain sometimes

Ok I’m late lol

[thick cave]

War

[normal orbit]

fluid buffers tend to be the main reason fluids are a pain :p

[quiet gust]

id say they share the blame with valves

[normal orbit]

na, valves are fine when used correctly

[frozen ingot]

i never use valves 🤔

[quiet gust]

ive never seen them be useful

[normal orbit]

i use em fairly extensively

[quiet gust]

pipes kinda just sort their own problems out

[zenith pecan]

Buffers have been great at masking pipe crimes and the failures rear their heads a couple of days later.

[quiet gust]

in terms out ouput rate

[sick falcon]

i wish there was a higher tier fluid buffer

like the size of a nuclear plant

[mortal ginkgo]

there is.

[mortal ginkgo]

brotherman why are we buffering fluids THAT much

I think the problem lies somewhere else

[earnest condor]

Given their only use is train logistics, and the current ones handle that just fine... why?

[mortal ginkgo]

I like using them as "water" towers too!

a nice visual thing regardless

[earnest condor]

Exploits are not something I endorse. 🤷‍♂️

[mortal ginkgo]

gravity + water going down is exploit..?

[earnest condor]

Headlift passing through a closed valve is.

[sick falcon]

bc i want to consolidate like 9 oil nodes into one area and then send it out from there as needed

[earnest condor]

What does buffering have to do with that?

[mortal ginkgo]

I am not using closed valves or things like that. I use the items directly from Water Tower. Am I a good pioneer now?

[sick falcon]

i suppose i can make fake buffers

[mortal ginkgo]

you dont need bigger fluids then. Mk2 buffer is more than enough

[sick falcon]

just for aesthetics

#screenshots message

[earnest condor]

No, because now you're just using pumps for a water tower instead of using them to move stuff normally, which doesn't make sense.

[sick falcon]

like these

[worn oar]

Are those pots to make spaghetti in or what?

[unreal fulcrum]

Oh nice, I found a server for chatting in while I AFK mine

[sick falcon]

yea

[abstract heron]

can anyone see if its a bug in #satisfactory-experimental pls

[earnest condor]

Why afk?

[native tapir]

Did you figure this out? Happy to help

Or if it involves math (which is for busters) I will ping nova

[merry canyon]

The fluid buffers should be closer to how you can buffer chests. 1 chest is hours of output a fluid buffer isn't much. You could get 1 to many on demand production of oil products with better buffers.

[hard wolf]

I did. I wasn't able to rotate the pillars on top of each other like I was with the painted beams, but I can just rotate a foundation twice. Thanks for checking in! ^-^

[wild phoenix]

!searchwiki arachnophobia

[dense violet]

regular buffers buffer train platforms jsut fine? why do you need bigger ones?

[wild phoenix]

Hmmm

Oh

[raven axle]

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @wild phoenix

[native tapir]

Yeah you have to start with a beam (or another objects). My memory could be wrong but I believe beams are 5° while pillars are 15° for default rotations

[dense violet]

what 'on demand' productions exist?

[merry canyon]

rubber, plastic, coke....

[dense violet]

also what make a 'better buffer' ?

[dense violet]

these are continuous production cycles

[sick falcon]

anything in the depot, but those are all solid products

[sick falcon]

higher capacity + more than 2 connections

[merry canyon]

depends on how you make them

[dense violet]

production is continuous - even if you do have start stop systems the fluid in the pipes hold fluid

[dense violet]

again why?

[sick falcon]

although that would probably wreck havoc on the games fluid physics

[dense violet]

also would not make them 'better'

[floral snow]

will someone check #screenshots and advise me on how to sort my track out lol it looks weird asf to loop it

[sharp compass]

idk if im dumb but im on oil and how do i make the materials for the fuel energy milestone if all my current ways to make plastic or rubber generates fuel as left over

oh nvm i am dumb i can make coke

[dense violet]

or burn the fuel

[languid flower]

How do people typically upgrade their belt highways? Seems like a PITA to go thru all of them to upgrade it

[dense violet]

I don't
that's why belt highways arent' great.

[hard wolf]

beams are supposed to be 15 degrees, pillars are 10, and foundations are 5, but the game wouldn't let me rotate pillars except by 45 degrees on initial placement :/

[sick falcon]

which heavy frame recipe do you guys like

[dense violet]

use trains for that. that way it's easy to update flow

[merry canyon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1fekus9/alternate_recipe_ranking_10_optimizing_for/

[native tapir]

Oops I typed that backwards. Long long day haha

[merry canyon]

its dated so might not be accurate if things have changed but still seems pretty good

[native tapir]

I see you're in coffee cup now..happy to help over there if you need anything!

Very accessible bunch over there lmao

[dense violet]

the problem with tier lists arne't that they get dated
it's that the yare tier lists and objectively don't provide good information to your situation

[languid flower]

I'm still trying to figure out trains. My blueprints don't autoconnect very well. TBH, I'm still learning how to do blueprints

[dense violet]

build towers along the path you want, manually connect them , take a few seconds

[hard wolf]

will do. I just joined xwx

[languid flower]

I learned a lot with blueprints making my little factory (if you can call it little, 8 floors to make 2 items)

[quiet gust]

i mean i have one with 10 floors just to make one item

[abstract heron]

i am power sharding everything to laggy and fps is bad hoping this can save my fix

[quiet gust]

is it just lag or also game crashing

[abstract heron]

Lag and at 25fps so reducing machines atm

[quiet gust]

ah. good luck

[abstract heron]

making 200-400 nucllear pasta or what ever no overclocking bad idea

[quiet gust]

200?

[abstract heron]

yes

[quiet gust]

like for the phase or 200 per minute

[abstract heron]

200 per minute

[quiet gust]

erm

[abstract heron]

what

[violet glen]

I beat the entire game with one singular particle accelerator making pasta oO

[merry canyon]

same now im doing 1.2 10x run with mostly impure and 2x power

[violet glen]

What do you even DO with 200 pasta per minute oO

[quiet gust]

have you increased your u object limit yet if ur gonna be building such a big factory

[abstract heron]

yes

[quiet gust]

food

[quiet gust]

yes to my question or yes to his question

[abstract heron]

dis

[quiet gust]

ok so, the solution is

better computa

[abstract heron]

Got that 🙂

[quiet gust]

or a lot of overclocking

[violet glen]

Even the best PC imagineable can only do so much if you push the game to its limits

[quiet gust]

true

wait

is it all in one place?

[abstract heron]

uh no

[quiet gust]

ok so

better computer

[abstract heron]

GOT THAT

[quiet gust]

i lwk have no actual ideas to limit lag tho

[abstract heron]

power sharding all and ya

thats why i wanna a memory update or something to go over the thingss in game

[abstract heron]

btw 19,692 hrs on record

[quiet gust]

in the save?

[quiet gust]

just bite the bullet and buy more ram 🙂

[abstract heron]

32gb

i have currently

[violet glen]

more RAM does not magically make stuff faster

[quiet gust]

shhhhh

[violet glen]

You either have enough, or you don't. And if you don't, you'd very much notice

[dense violet]

Sure but blueprints in a lot of ways make for very restrictive building practices

Like your rail for example, auto connect can be useful in a lot of places but have to be built in very specific ways

Huge restrictions

[abstract heron]

hiya cobalt

[languid flower]

What's the difference between the build modes: Default vs Blueprint ?

[quiet gust]

blueprint snaps to other blueprints

[languid flower]

ok, ty

[dense violet]

You can dismantle in bp mode too

[languid flower]

I did figure that one out 🙂

[dense violet]

Hey a lot of people don’t notice middle mouse button for eye drop function

[languid flower]

I think I'm gonna try and circumnavigate the world with a train

[dense violet]

Or Hold E to bring up a radial menu

[languid flower]

I love that feature 🙂

[elfin cape]

These people have never played minecraft

[dense violet]

Look, a lot of people do that but it’s often a waste of time, you don’t know where or how you’ll want to connect your rails and end up wasting a LOT of time

[languid flower]

I don't know where I'm doing things half the time..lol

[wise junco]

this is easily one of the best little tips

[languid flower]

Okay, maybe I'll just do a little bit then. Part of it is me learning how to do it and what I want to do. I did find 3 iron and 3 copper very near the water while building out.

[dense violet]

It’s a good idea. With this game treat it as a bit if a tutorial before you get a sandbox at the end

Your first of anything will almost certainly be terrible, thats normal. Just learn and practice 🙂

[languid flower]

My like everything is terrible...haha, but it's a game and that's what I'm enjoying. Try new things, explore 🙂

oh, and crapping my pants when I see a big spider

[distant badge]

for years I've been toggling going down ladders from the top by tapping backwards until the animation played or I had to reset
And now I just discovered if you crouch while going backwards it has a 75%-ish grab rate

[abstract heron]

Sad that i can't do what i wanna to do in game FPS is hurting so power sharding all minus spiny thingys

[outer scarab]

I just noticed there is a Man mod to make your character male... Like... how insecure do you have to be to use that lol

[earnest condor]

Red hat people 😁

[thick river]

i feel like its not just about insecurity. some people feel affirmed playing as a male character and i think thats fine

personally i dont care but i also can see why some people wouldnt want to play as a female-presenting character without it being an insecurity thing

[abstract heron]

sad

[native tapir]

I'm sad they beat me to it. I was planning on collaborating on a male character mod except the character would have booty shorts that said JUICY on the back

I really wanted to make it available but completely useless to the people who are the most aggressive about getting it lmao

One time I asked one of those dudes, "Would you require a male character model to play a lore-accurate game that was about Wonderwoman. Dude said (I swear to God) "Yeah. Actually, I would."

[outer scarab]

Are you saying he wanted to play a male wonderwoman?

[native tapir]

Yes. lol

[earnest condor]

Manderwoman?

[outer scarab]

maybe the dude just likes looking at male butts

[native tapir]

same guy to get into a rage when Disney characters are recast, I'll just point that out.

And not because Disney is doing terrible remakes, which they mostly are. But because....well you know why.

[outer scarab]

it's why I pick girls in MMOs,... if I'm going to look at something jiggle for 400 hours, it might as well be a big booty girl

[native tapir]

Insert accidentally politically correct redneck meme here. Lmao

[outer scarab]

did you know "redneck" comes from the red hankerchiefs they wore, not the sunburn hillbilly look?

[native tapir]

#satisfactory message

I'm not joking either this was already discussed on the menu for this month

the juicy shorts male character model was happening

[abstract heron]

i am sad that the game can't take my huge factorys

[leaden turret]

-# um actually; steve trevor.
-# but also yes, people that are butthurt about the wimmens are weird and I mock them when they say incoherent shit in the archive youtube comments

[outer scarab]

why can't it take your huge factory?

[native tapir]

I made a Reddit post about it once. Took it down after the comments were absolutely vicious lmao

[abstract heron]

FPS drops

[native tapir]

@outer scarab @abstract heron yeaaaa we all have that issue.

HOWEVER...Leo. Do you know about the two mods that were made over at coffee cup specifically to help wiht that? They work GREAT