satisfactory

[twin parcel]

u get free lift and easy vip juction set by simply building it higher

[restive umbra]

‘the ficsonium of piped fuel’ is a banger way to put it

Banger*

[reef basin]

vip is not recommended exploit

[earnest condor]

I don't agree with that sentiment but 🤷‍♂️

@restive umbra I make Ionized on purpose to generate Power Shards on demand, not remove them.

[frozen ingot]

this might be what i'm doing. although fancy name for 'input fresh from above' iirc

[twin parcel]

how is that exploit?

[restive umbra]

ok, feel free to play the game how you like

[earnest condor]

As everyone should.

[reef basin]

it relies on magic undocumented behavior of pipes that can be fixed/changed at any point

[twin parcel]

i thought it was using pressure mechanics ?

[reef basin]

no

[normal orbit]

they used a specifig bugged behavious of vertical junctions

[earnest condor]

Now I am off the Blue Crater to make Turbofuel!

[worn oar]

Lowkey have the devs actually ever documented how pipes work/are supposed to work? Thought that was the work of players making the plumbing manual etc.

[normal orbit]

so if they ever fix that bug, then all vip junctions will cease

[twin parcel]

i guess what i built wasnt vip junction , something else entirely .

[frozen ingot]

mental note, check my bauxite processing after every update 👀

[normal orbit]

not really, the ingame info also doesnt tell whole story. and pipe manual from 2021/22 is not very accurate anymore and the author is slowly working on a new version

[twin parcel]

good point , most manuals are from player's experience . so vip junction isnt a bug until devs releases their own manuals .

[worn oar]

I mean sloshing appears to be intended if frustrating and that's what a lot of people hate about pipes

[reef basin]

it relies on a bug

[worn oar]

Factorio-style pipe mod when

[frozen ingot]

maybe it's by design. Maybe one of the devs doesn't want to break their own factories 🤣

[twin parcel]

no its not a bug untill they release an evidence that is a bug (updated manuals from devs)

[reef basin]

don't need manual to know whether thing is a bug or not

and vertical junctions have a few known bugs afaik

[frozen ingot]

do you know what they are mate?

[worn oar]

All the bug reports discussing vertical junction behavior are open with no response from the dev so they might not even think it's a bug

[reef basin]

I don't know enough specifcs to accurately describe them, you'd have to ask people that know the specifics. One of them is afaik "variable priority for each side, which changes when you rotate the junction"

[reef basin]

same thing could be said about 10000s of other bug reports.

[worn oar]

Sure, but they're dating back 5 years and all open no response

[frozen ingot]

i'll try and find one of the pipe wizards later i guess 😄 i'm not too bothered for now though, if my systems break in an update i'll fix them 😄

[twin parcel]

that is also true , and until they give us some math formulas and rules that are intended to work , we wouldnt know .

[frozen ingot]

waste water for fuel, or just keeping separate in some way

[white dawn]

The Questions site is mostly kind of a write-only place, btw. CSS really don't have the staffing to respond to most stuff on there, and often don't even close stuff out once fixed. There are exceptions, but that's mostly how it is. They've said many times in the past that they at least read everything that gets on there. I'm guessing they're aware and it's on a list somewhere; the question is when it'll bubble up the priority list

[normal orbit]

as far as i understood it, and i could be very wrong about this. Is vertical junctions will have more headlift/pressure on the top facing port, so because of that the lower horizontal pipes kinda have a priority due to that. and when theres space to allow, it takes in fluid from the top.

[frozen ingot]

i was so happy when i got that working though, was delightful

[reef basin]

devs said many times they do read the posts but don't have time to respond

[worn oar]

The true cursed setup is to use wastewater to dilute fuel into generators 😁

[reef basin]

and it was afaik confirmed on stream it is a bug

[frozen ingot]

in other news i set up a fairly long vehicle route the other night, and it really made me miss the old system 😆

[twin parcel]

i thought making petroleum coke and burn them with waste water was cursed

[frozen ingot]

i do kinda like the new vehicle path system, as buildables, but the old one was fun and saved the tedious on foot building

[fluid sapphire]

more tedious to drive 10 laps to correct a mistake every time one happens

[twin parcel]

get gud

jk

[frozen ingot]

people say that but i never, ever, ever had an issues with the old vehicle system. but i will add that in fairness, i never had more than a few vehicles on the map

[fluid sapphire]

driving is jank

[restive umbra]

It would be nice if there was a way to drive a path and have it generate the path that way

[frozen ingot]

well that was the old system 😄

[twin parcel]

thats 1.1 mate

[restive umbra]

Thanks guys

[frozen ingot]

(i know you mean a mix of both!)

[white dawn]

Yeah, I'd love that to be an option as well. Slap down the new splines as you go, but let you drive to do it if you want. :)

I too rarely had problems with laying down paths. If you do screw up somewhere it was always pretty easy to just make a big obvious circle around and then go delete the "mistake" afterwards

[restive umbra]

Manually putting it down over long distances gets old

[white dawn]

A bit academic since that system's going away. Alas!

[restive umbra]

But it’s great for making adjustments

[white dawn]

It's not impossible that they could maybe add it as an option in the future, of course, though IMO the chances of that are awfully slim

[frozen ingot]

yeah if i ever do a longer route it's gonna be boring :/ I'm surprised they didn't keep the old system as an option, tbh

[restive umbra]

I’m not lol

[twin parcel]

waiting for dynamic pathing for vehicles

cuz 1.2 pathing kinda suck , got my trucks stucked at a dead lock .

[earnest condor]

Sounds like you built the system wrong 🤷‍♂️

[normal orbit]

thats kinda impressive tbh, since the new pathing is basically built in automatic path signals

[restive umbra]

the new system is a huge upgrade overall with a few minor regressions, imo

[earnest condor]

No use of Jump Pads makes me sad.

[twin parcel]

once in a blue moon , 7 trucks will enter at the same time get stucked , i had to change the paths multiple times until the deadlock disappear

[earnest condor]

They are finally and completely obsolete now. 🙁

[twin parcel]

does higher lvl fuel increases truck acceleration ? like drones

[earnest condor]

Nope.

[twin parcel]

sad

[earnest condor]

Indeed.

[restive umbra]

just lets them run longer

[earnest condor]

Faster + Change Exhaust color the way it does on drones would be cool.

[twin parcel]

i want a truck that drives like Max Verstappen , i guess its just a dream .

[leaden turret]

Requesting a set of enhancements that fit with the new system to restore tricks, skate parks, jumps, dropping over ledges etc.
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/69f09053b4a0d6184726a72c

[worn oar]

Cybertruck lol

[earnest condor]

I have no idea what this means 😭

[twin parcel]

high top speed and acceleration truck even on auto pilot . and the auto pilot drives like Max Verstappen .

[unkempt blade]

factory cart for sure then

[earnest condor]

I'm assuming that is a name even though you have no capital letters?

[twin parcel]

yea a name of an f1 driver

[earnest condor]

So then, who is Max Verstappen?

Ah.

[young hound]

i feel like hatchers take less damage from explosions, and especially explosive rebars, is this an actual thing

or am i js tripping

[earnest condor]

When they are closed, yes afaik.

[young hound]

myth busted thanks to this guy

[earnest condor]

Gas Nobs make take on clusters of them a breeze since the cloud insta-kills any crabs that spawn.

[thick cave]

hmmmm
should I setup a quartz factory

[earnest condor]

No.

[thick cave]

nuke supermacy

[thick cave]

why not

[earnest condor]

Because you're doubting it and questioning to the point where you have to ask strangers online.

If you think about it more and have no doubts and are able to make you own decision -- then yes.

But currently, since it is a matter of "should I?" -- no.

[thick cave]

Well im only wondering bc i don't know wheter or not I need it later on and I don't wanna screw myself over

[restive umbra]

if you don’t need it right now why build it

[earnest condor]

It's impossible to screw yourself over in this game because you can always delete and rebuild.

[rough crest]

Call me lame but building big factories can only be done in the sky

[earnest condor]

Thou art lame.

[rough crest]

Where am I supposed to place 400 smelters

For my iron

[restive umbra]

it’s definitely easier in the sky

[thick cave]

that's the thing
I don't know if i need it

[earnest condor]

You're not supposed to use Smelters for iron when Foundries exist 😏

[thick cave]

2 options
sky
under the planet

[restive umbra]

What do you mean? What do you need it for?

[rough crest]

Yeah that’s what I’m thinking

[thick cave]

Idfk i just have all of the quartz things unlocked but idk if i need it as im close to phase 3

[fluid sapphire]

if only it was possible to build multiple floors

[thick cave]

oh wait
it is

[rough crest]

Building little outposts on the ground that collect resources and little processing especially when dealing with liquids) than go in the sky

[fluid sapphire]

what?? no way

[earnest condor]

That's INSANE!

😏

[fluid sapphire]

woah

[rough crest]

Y ik but interconnecting everything with mountains in between is a pain

[restive umbra]

You can build it later too, it sounds like you don’t need it right now

[thick cave]

true, but if i get it done now I don't need to worry about it later

[earnest condor]

Do not build it.

[twin parcel]

dont until finish phase 3

[restive umbra]

Or you could focus on more immediate needs

[rough crest]

Just finish the entire elevator before side projects imo

Unless your playing with modifiers in 1.2

[thick cave]

my setup for doing the phases is litearlly
Place the 1 machine i need to make the part
use smart splitters and conyeryor to the space elevator

done

[rough crest]

I just plug like 4 machines and then afk the thing

And rinse and repeat for every part

[thick cave]

I just overclock

[rough crest]

I wanna demolish everything tho it looks disgusting spaghetti

[restive umbra]

anyway it sounds like the list of things you currently need quartz for has zero entries

[rough crest]

But first I need to rebuild cleanly otherwise I won’t have resources to build in the first place

[thick cave]

brother i have the CIA blacksite for a main factory

[primal fable]

Are weather effects active on experimental? I've been itching to start a new vanilla playthrough.

[earnest condor]

Yes.

[normal orbit]

rain, wind and thunder

[rough crest]

I guess having infrastructure on the ground tho looks really good

But honestly I can’t be bothered

I have a bigger goal in mind

[thick cave]

Borg cube

[twin parcel]

#screenshots message

i love the view

[rough crest]

What if I covered most of map from sunlight

And built everything on a single floor in the sky

That is like the pinnacle of industry and planet exploitation

[dense violet]

that's exactly what you do if you want to overload your computer with processing issues

[thick cave]

I mean, sooner or later that's what satisfactory is

[rough crest]

That many foundation would lag?

I think lag comes mostly from the processing

Might be a memory issue

But I have like 10ish gb or ram in my server

[dense violet]

and in the sky makes it worse

[rough crest]

For that

[dense violet]

whenever people would send me their save with tons of giant floating platforms it was always much worse on my computer , even if they had few machines

[worn oar]

And here I thought I just built on the ground because I was lazy. Turns out I'm a genius

[restive umbra]

What I’m gathering from this is we should all be building underground, if building up in the sky causes lag

[dense violet]

haven't compared ground to underground, so can't really comment

and @zenith pecan 's map probably isn't a good test

[restive umbra]

Don’t worry I’ve already inappropriately extrapolated my conclusion

[grim ermine]

If i destroy my factory and replace everything exactly as it was, is it the same factory?

[restive umbra]

Factory of Theseus

[worn oar]

#screenshots message I like building in caves even if it's inefficient and stupid

[thick cave]

all I have in my world so far
is
CIA blacksite
enough storage to last till the end of time
about 5-7 train stations
computer factory
high speed connectors and ai limiters factory
encased industial beams factory
copper wire
copper sheets
and cables factory
a 400/min quickwire factory
and a hypertube highway

[twin parcel]

ur not alone

[rough crest]

#screenshots message

you dont imagine how easy it is to travel wherever you want with that you basically can get out of the tubes at any intersection and then you fly down

[twin parcel]

-big ass nuclear plant (10 uranium rods/min)

• 2 train stations
• 90 drone ports
• a mega factory at swamp to make phase 4 space elevator parts
• small turbo fuel plant
• big ass packaged diluted fuel plant that nuke my fps

[rough crest]

it may not be pretty but its definitely easy and i like it more than cannons cause you have little control and you dont have power lines in the sky as well so you just take a pole and brind it down lol

[worn oar]

Hypertubes are fun until you randomly get shot out of the middle of a section and have to manually deconstruct and reconstruct it to get the tubes to connect to each other instead of breaking at supports

[rough crest]

anyways filling it is ridicolous unless using mods or something

it took me 2 afternoons to build all those foundations by hand with looooots of music xd

[desert ermine]

Had that happen the other day in the middle of the forest. Had the stuff to fix it in dimensional storage so it wasnt an issue. I just added a junction with an entrance.

[twin parcel]

i see

[desert ermine]

While i see the appeal behind hypertube cannons, I prefer being shot through a tube like a piece of mail in a USPS sorting facility.

[thick cave]

real

[worn oar]

Big ass-nuclear

[ivory bluff]

OK. Back to regular exploration (the rifle helps in that regard).
... Also, whoever on the team thought of the spiders... I both respect and hate you soooo very much.

[toxic sluice]

looking for someone to play satisfactory together interested ones pls dm.

[white dawn]

#1201555265942724758 is the place for that, btw. :)

[toxic sluice]

sry newbie

[reef basin]

it's also written in #welcome, which you for sure have read 😛

[frozen ingot]

you don't make iron plates or rods? 😛

[thick cave]

i do

not alot

[thick yarrow]

Found the solution.

2 things I did different today was
1- placed the truckstation on foundations and not dirt
2- made the truckpath staight at the station and not curved

[leaden turret]

1.1 or 1.2?

[thick yarrow]

1.2

[restive umbra]

Nobody reads pins or announcements or rules or FAQs or even the previous message

🙃

[toxic sluice]

who cares

[woeful jewel]

imagine automating when you can just…
three iron drills conveyor into storage and you manually move it from the box to the smelter

[ivory bluff]

... OK... So the red forest really is the "This is the part of the game where it kills you." zone.

[woeful jewel]

i need my factory cart so i can begin the process

[fallow ibex]

I think its tied with the tide flats in the east

[unkempt blade]

the secret to avoiding aggro monsters is to get back in your factory cart and drive away

[fallow ibex]

or explosives and a jet pack/hover pack

[fluid sapphire]

no no, the real secret is peaceful mode

[reef basin]

everyone

[stone python]

imagine coming into a massive community server, and not reading the most basic of rules :wheeze:

[stone python]

this is me 100%, im too lazy to deal with the "combat" in the game so i slap peaceful mode on as soon as i can

[unkempt blade]

the cart is just peaceful mode you can drive though

[fluid sapphire]

its just not particularly interesting after already doing it for a couple hundred hours, not difficult, just tedious

[stone python]

agree. If they gave us base defenses id 10000% keep it on

give me some tower turrets

[unkempt blade]

This is definitely nor primarily a combat game but I do like a little bit of combat friction when I'm gathering hard drives to mix things up

diving into a hostile crash site and stuff like that is more fun that every drive being "free"

[normal orbit]

i like retaliation setting for that, have em fight back. but not bother me when i just wanna build and chill

[frozen ingot]

i think the weapons need some mk2 versions or something, like one more upgrade. By the time you're exporing in tier 6/7 you should be able to one shot things from afar etc 😄

[fluid sapphire]

thats been broken for as long as i can remember xd

[frozen ingot]

after so many hours i too just embrace passive creature mode now

[normal orbit]

its broken on 1.2 atm, but it worked fine on 1.1

[stone python]

i want a nuke fully automatic rocket launcher. Let me load up 200 nukes and fire them all off in 10 seconds

[fluid sapphire]

best i can give you rocket barrage in DRG

[unkempt blade]

I just use the basher and boombox for everything 😆

[stone python]

i love the boombox

[stone python]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-and-stone-deep-rock-galactic-gif-25114877

[fluid sapphire]

rock and stone to the bone

[woeful jewel]

cant wait for rat enemy (never)

[quaint cedar]

just got to phase 3
anything I should know about?

[frozen ingot]

nah, just keep on playing 😄

[quaint cedar]

[fluid sapphire]

expand

phase 3 will no longer allow you to sit in the same cozy corner, gotta expand your reach

[frozen ingot]

consume

[fluid sapphire]

if you are still attached to the idea of a "base", ditch it, the whole map is your base

@crimson ermine just optimization, if you look at a lot of stuff in this game closely enough, you will see that a lot of meshes are reused for different purposes

[worn oar]

Come here. See this sunrise? Everything the sun touches is our land.

What about that bit past the waterfall in the southwest?

That's Irradiated Hellscape Island. That's where our power comes from. We don't go there.

[rough crest]

#screenshots message is this good scale for late game (this uses 1/4 of all bauxite in the world)

[reef basin]

I'd recommend making what you need now rather than trying to guess how much you'll need in the future

[rough crest]

i already beat the game im just building for fun

[reef basin]

then the question seems irrelevant, if the reason to build this is to have fun?

[earnest condor]

No.

Us all the bauxite or use none of it. 😏

[rough crest]

only good answer

[earnest condor]

😄

[rough crest]

XD

[worn oar]

Yep

[twin parcel]

maybe

[unkempt blade]

yeah that would be a good amount of aluminum screws to start with

[normal trench]

Idk how you guys build once the games finished

I lose all interest after I beat it and have no goals anymore

I’d just restart instead

[rough crest]

but its the funniest part you can build crazy stuff way faster

cause you have all endgame tech

[quiet mortar]

You have that way before you finish

you can buy all the stuff for the milestones with coupons

[rough crest]

way before no cause you still have to get to the tier like right now im building some aluminum

[quiet mortar]

rip

[rough crest]

ohhh you cheese the milestones with coupons xD

[quiet mortar]

Hell yeah

[rough crest]

but still you have to get to the correct elevator phase

[quiet mortar]

im not automating shit with the old stuff

[quiet mortar]

yea

[rough crest]

and you wont have enough resources to use the technology anyways

[quiet mortar]

and i did that normally

[rough crest]

so idk if its actually good

[ornate saffron]

Not my chosen play path but a valid one

[quiet mortar]

i jsut cant be bothered to make a factory for lets say time crystals just to unlock the milestone and then upgrade it with mk 6 belts

[rough crest]

my chosen path is not that either i built like shi to rush the completion of the game now that i have everything im rebuilding brand new factories

[quiet mortar]

so i bought the stuff for the milestone with the coupons and then i built a big time crystal factory

[quiet mortar]

damn what

[normal trench]

It’s just for me i don’t know why I would build something

[quiet mortar]

i could never

[rough crest]

you could say end goal is to replace my terrible starter factory with wrong ratios and crazy spaghetti with a set of better built modular factories with all the technologies available interconnected by train

[normal trench]

It’s just like why am I building to get the resources if I have nothing to do with them

[rough crest]

and i figured after all this is built put it together to make some elevator parts and sink them

to give myself a purpose i did this

you could try to beat your own points/min record for example

i dont even have one cause this is my first playthrough

[normal trench]

Thats actually a good goal

I would like to do that

[rough crest]

then it makes sense to rebuild your stuff

[ornate saffron]

My goal this time was not to rush to the end game lol

[quiet mortar]

My goal rn is to max nuclear power

[rough crest]

honestly i wouldnt rush either in my next playthrough but this one i learnt every mechanic of the game so i wanted to see them quick and didnt worry about aesthetics or expandability i built everything in a single spot and shipped without trains

now that i know stuff i would play gradually again i guess so that it's easier to expand maybe and i dont have to demolish everything and rebuilt it cause its unrecoverable

[quiet mortar]

my fiend doesnt wanna use the plutonium fuel rods that you cant make into ficsonium tho and that reduces power output by like 30%

[rough crest]

but as i say my starter base has served me well cause it indeed did beat the game maybe not in a record time or actually a slow one but who cares

[ornate saffron]

sink the pluito or use them to fuel vehicles ^_^

[rough crest]

thats a good goal as well

but oil power if you just want the power is way better

i have 150GW rn and i dont think i will use it all and i can triple that

[ornate saffron]

I think clean max nuclear is 1.4 you can bump it to 2tw if you make the byprduct into ionized fuel i think

[rough crest]

like easily just with oil with the best recipes

[quiet mortar]

using them as fuel is so inefficient like what vehicle burns them at a fast enough rate

[crimson ermine]

yeah makes sense, i think its just so funny that some parts are insanely detailed with rust and everything and some parts are just boxes

[ornate saffron]

just letting you know the options ^_^

[quiet mortar]

We also have a rocket fuel plant that makes around 280 GW

[rough crest]

thats crazy i wasnt thinking in TW scale i dont think oil can reach that

i have one that makes 77GW with 300 oil

[quiet mortar]

Nuclear is just way more fun

[rough crest]

so yeah easily scalable

[ornate saffron]

it can

[rough crest]

true i want to build one but for now i have my goal of replacing my terrible starter base with much better and 100% uptime factories of every material in the game

[quiet mortar]

were using superposition oscillators as a byproduct

[rough crest]

then i guess ill build a nuclear plant as well

[quiet mortar]

so we can also max alien power augmenters

[normal trench]

One pure produces like 66gw ish

[rough crest]

building power even if you dont need it is just fun tho

[quiet mortar]

How can you not build 100% efficient factories

[rough crest]

like id go there and place another 200 generators for fun xD

[quiet mortar]

i always do that

with the exception of miners and extractors and stuff

[rough crest]

im in my first playthrough i was like lest just place a couple of machines and it ill be good

[ornate saffron]

just a heads up Nuclear is not worth it uinless you are min maxing. Thats not me saying not to buiild it

[rough crest]

ignoring the numbers lol not totally but like on average

i couldnt deal with the 1.875/min or smt

[quiet mortar]

🦨

[rough crest]

so i figured ok this is like 2

then i discovered calculators that do the work for you so i will never deal with this anyways lol

need to finish my 90 smelters array

[normal trench]

Satisfactory tools?

[rough crest]

yeah i use tools and interactive map they are just the goat

[normal trench]

Thank greeny

[rough crest]

tools i love that you can do maximize of what you want to produce given limited input

[normal trench]

Go tell him thanks

[reef basin]

but change to items/min afterwards

[rough crest]

it just works so well cause i had like 3k bauxite in the area i put that limit and then maximize aluminum with correct recipes you want to use and it gives you all the machines

[normal trench]

Yeah, greeny did a great job

It’s very well made

[rough crest]

yeah for now im building factories of base materials so it makes sense to exploit the max amount from nodes no?

but like if i have 2700 aluminum being produced and say i want half of it for another factory and the other half keep it on stand by i can go in the calculator and set that as a custom input with said limit and still use maximize

also is 18 smelters per manifold too much or its chill

ive never built this much maybe just will take a long time to stack up no?

cause like when machines are full ik that manifold = load balancer

[reef basin]

I mean that after you do maximise, take the resulting number and change the production request to items/min

[sterile blade]

Sorry, I missed the @ 😅
If you're still interested, you can see some (edit: actually just one, my bad, but the difference is very obvious in it) comparison shots with GI on/off here: #screenshots message
(Edit2: More shots, but a bit older (graphics haven't changed much though): #screenshots message)

[raven ruin]

any solve for the scroll wheel bug? ive been reading posts about it being known about years ago. Im playing through steam and even on old saves its just diabled.

[rough crest]

what is the difference isnt the graph and everything going to be the same

[reef basin]

it won't (usually)

[worn edge]

yall think i should play main branch and wait for 1.2 or go right on 1.2 experimental

[reef basin]

flip a coin

[worn edge]

i did and it seems im going on experimental

[cursive topaz]

1.2 soon?

[reef basin]

not if you keep asking instead of reading #announcements

[cursive topaz]

Imma keep asking so no one gets 1.2

[reef basin]

noone wants it anyway

[cursive topaz]

I want the daisy chain power so me

[woeful jewel]

should i automate cart production

im turning half the map into highways

[normal orbit]

you can't automate producing carts :p

[twin parcel]

something like ray tracing i see

[woeful jewel]

i can automate motor production

all i need to do is craft the final product

[woeful jewel]

i think

[normal orbit]

sure, but you dont use motors to make carts

[woeful jewel]

rotors

[twin parcel]

how to sink factory carts?

[woeful jewel]

wrong word whoops

[unkempt blade]

but why would you?

[reef basin]

by putting them in the sink?

[twin parcel]

u can?

[reef basin]

you can sink almost all items

[unkempt blade]

did you try the normal way before asking? 🤣

[twin parcel]

no

cant open satisfactory rn , cooling my overheated laptop

[ivory bluff]

Hmmm... Time to think about setting up a road for condensed coal and bring that to my oil factory for turbofuel...

[true mulch]

Building roads should be unnecessary if you can utilize natural roads

[ivory bluff]

And soon-ish, trains are going to be unlocked. That ought to change a few things.

[unkempt blade]

in honor of your question I've updated my name

[true mulch]

Unless you're in 1.2 where roads can be reused by different routes

[twin parcel]

lol

[ivory bluff]

Not yet in 1.2. Waiting for the stable version. But yeah, you have a point.

I'm currently hard-drive hunting anyway, hoping to get a few interesting alt recipes.

(Also: yuuuup, the heavy modular frame is indeed something).

Also: damn, you actually need 4 HD just for the Sulfur MAM unlocks. Outch.

[normal orbit]

4?

[low helm]

I am on 1.2. Can recommend the new path system. Super easy to use both on and off foundations

[normal orbit]

oh yea, compacted needs one too

[thick cave]

Time to make a cluster bomb factory

[dusk bolt]

how do i get smart planting for the space elevator

[ornate saffron]

the assembler makes it

[dusk bolt]

oh ok

ty

[ornate saffron]

I think "O" brings up the codex. you can look it up there ^_^

[dusk bolt]

ok

[reef basin]

and you've been told about the codex by the game in first 5 minutes 😛

[dusk bolt]

ye ik i looked in there it didnt tell me how to make it

[ornate saffron]

youll get used to it. If it needs two solid inputs itll be the assembler, more then that youll need the manufacturer

[dusk bolt]

ye i see that

it was because i havent researched the assembler yet i just did though

[sleek halo]

so hard to find ppl to play satisfactory when ur first language isnt english

i swear bro thats harder than finding eme

[ornate saffron]

I just play solo

[sleek halo]

solo is good

[dusk bolt]

i think its better like that

[sleek halo]

but like with more ppl u can talk and stuff

even 1 person

[dusk bolt]

how can i get more energy except for biomass

[ornate saffron]

phase 2 unlocks your next power source

[dusk bolt]

ok

im still a good way away

[sterile blade]

What we use is the younger brother or something... (it has much lower accuracy AFAIK)

[rich tusk]

Hi, I need urgent help. When I load into a save I can interact with one object, after that 'e' and LMB stops working. Haven't played in a while and never encountered that bug. And Dr. Google didn't gave me solutions that helped

[rich parrot]

Does it happen with a brand new save as well?

[rich tusk]

Just started a new save, didn't checked if it happens in older save files

[rich parrot]

Odd bug. Verifying files could help, maybe.

[white dawn]

You may already be aware, but you can process Leaves+Wood+Alien Remains into "Biomass," and then there's a milestone where you unlock "Solid Biofuel" (and the chainsaw)

Biomass will last longer than any of the previous ones, and Solid Biofuel will last longer than that

So to make your bio fuels stretch as far as possible, make sure you're dumping those initial components into some bins, which then go get processed into Biomass (and then Soild Biofuel) before making their way into the bio burners

Once you've got all that set up, the earlier-game bio fuel stage can feel a lot more manageable

[rich tusk]

already tried... I hoped, that someone encountered something similar

[white dawn]

Are you running the Experimental version? If so, there's a known bug related to some machine interactions; ask in #satisfactory-experimental

[sour brook]

If you want energy via other things that are not biomass or biofuel you must complete phase 1, tier 3-1 unlocks coal power, there you use coal and water and you have power, is automatic

Be sure that coal generators get enough water and coal and you are fine

[rich tusk]

Yes, ty, I just use EXPV (on EPIC), because of my bamboo internet connection, I don't want to update two versions

[quiet mortar]

Gay modular frames

[severe tendon]

Can someone help me with my aluminum plant? Its running but at less then 50% efficiency and idk why

[sour brook]

I could, let me see

[white dawn]

A #1038092680493801533 post with pictures of your setup would probably be the best way to get help. The problem is often related to trying to merge "fresh" and "recycled" water into the same pipe system. That can be done (and the thread would give enough room for suggestions on that front), though I always recommend keeping the fresh+recycled totally separate

[restive umbra]

find the machine farthest back in your production chain running less than 100% and figure out why

[severe tendon]

Ok thanks

[sour brook]

If you want someone to enter your world and help you I can do it, I would like to help people in this game

[deep dust]

Just let your imagination flow and create the biggest conveyors monstrosity and unorganized inventory ever

[quiet mortar]

yes

I just built a temporary factory for heavy modular frames

its the best thing ever

[deep dust]

I'm kinda new and in my first world i already have the worst cable management known to mankind

[quiet mortar]

peam

[sour brook]

What if I told you there are other 2 kinds of modular frames you need to do?

[dusk bolt]

ok ty

[sour brook]

Well, one is more or less a modular frame but still.

[quiet mortar]

how do i link to a message in another chat

[deep dust]

Well, i already fucked up so hard my first world, because my resources distribution was done without any single spot of though

[sour brook]

My first world was also a mess, more a logistical nightmare but I managed to complete the game
Now I'm playing less chaotic

[quiet mortar]

like this

yo i lowkey dont havce a clue what my first world looked like

oh yeah no i played with some friends in middle school

[deep dust]

I lowkey wanna just do a new world more organized and built with pure maths

but i'm still tired from my finals

[quiet mortar]

#screenshots message is it like this

oh yeha it is nice

[sour brook]

Nuclear power? It is a pain to manage, especially with the waste, I just used fuel

[deep dust]

I'm still stuck in coal

[dusk bolt]

im not even at coal

[sour brook]

You can try to play with another person, trust me, playing with someone that knows more the game will help you better than any tutorial video

[dusk bolt]

still doing the space elevator

[quiet mortar]

its so fun

[deep dust]

Imma try, now with summer vacations i will become satisfactory addicted

[sour brook]

I played alone most of the time because I didn't find a partner for the game, yesterday I think I found one but still, it would be fun to play with other person

[deep dust]

I didn't even know there was a multiplayer option!

[sour brook]

There is really

If you have a friend on steam he can join the world directly without invitation if you have that option in your world

[deep dust]

Nah, gotta find it here, in steam my friends play other type of games

[sour brook]

I don't think you will have fun once you want to do ficsonium

[quiet mortar]

lol

Im maxing nuclear

ok not really

[sour brook]

Are you in phase 4 right?

[quiet mortar]

im using all the sam thats leftover from making alien poewr matrices

[quiet mortar]

phase 5

[sour brook]

Oh so you can do ficsonium
It uses nuclear pasta

[quiet mortar]

we have a rocketfuel plant that would make more than enough power

but nuclear is so fun

#screenshots message

[sour brook]

Not sure if this is the channel to say this but if you want we can play together

[deep dust]

Sure! :^)

[sour brook]

I don't know if you will have enough recourse to do that many

[quiet mortar]

thats the maximum amount of uranium and plutonium you can make

without using any conversion recipes

[reef basin]

making more of one usually means making less of the other, so you need to be more specific

[quiet mortar]

No its not

[reef basin]

it is not what?

[quiet mortar]

You just make the maximum amount of uranium fuel rods

since the limiting ressource ther us uranium ore

[sour brook]

If I'm not wrong, that is roughly 1.350.000 mw

[quiet mortar]

Then you make all the plutonium you can from the waste tha you produce

[reef basin]

that means you cannot use uranium on that fertile uranium alt

[sleek halo]

is anybody french bro im tryin to find sm1

[quiet mortar]

Yes

[sour brook]

But the thing is how much are you consuming for that? Probably 1/3 in total

[quiet mortar]

Why would i use that one it makes less uranium fuel rods

[deep dust]

all these uranium talks making me dizzy

[quiet mortar]

300 GW when overclocking

But its not about efficiency

Yall dont get it

[reef basin]

because it makes more plutonium rods?

that's my point, making more of one makes less of other

[sour brook]

I did mats assuming full overclock and assuming each plant consumes 0.5 uranium, 0.25 plutonium and 2.5 ficsonium, per minute

[quiet mortar]

I dont understand

You cant make more than 22.4 plutonium fuel rods from the waste that is produced by 50.4 uranium fuel rods

[reef basin]

if you want to make most possible plutonium rods, you need to NOT make max possible uranium rods

[quiet mortar]

Ohhhhhhh

Now i get it my bad

Yeah im making max uranium fuel rods

[ornate saffron]

pluo gives you more GW

[quiet mortar]

were gonna be shredding 13.4 plutonium fuel rods per minute

since my friend doesnt want to store the waste

so its about 1 TW

[sour brook]

Would you do it all alone or do you want help from someone?

[quiet mortar]

Wait fr?

[ornate saffron]

ya, they have a slower burn rate

[quiet mortar]

Damn i didnt know that

[normal orbit]

you can process the plutonium waste, you dont have to store it

[quiet mortar]

i know that but i meant if you maximize plutonium fuel rods

instead of uranium fuel rods

[quiet mortar]

We do process some of it

[normal orbit]

maximizing plutonium rods is kinda bad, since its makes more waste and produces less power overall

[quiet mortar]

With the sam thats leftover from making 50 Alien power matrices you can process 90 Plutonium waste

so thats 9 plutonium rods which leaves 13.4 to be shredded

@arctic hound

how many power plants are that?

[arctic hound]

im using the refined power mod

so for 19 rods per min thats 158 heaters

[worn oar]

Nuclear project almost done, just 3,404 nuclear power plants left to go 🎉

[quiet mortar]

What

Bros underclocking them

[worn oar]

No they're 250%

[arctic hound]

5 turbines per heater

[fluid sapphire]

mod shenanigans

[normal orbit]

how on earth did you arrive at 3404 nuclear reactors at 250%?

[quiet mortar]

(I think theyre joking)

[arctic hound]

i realised i messed up my system

[quiet mortar]

Whatd yo do

[arctic hound]

i put 6 turbines on one 600 pipe

turbines use 120/s

only need 5 per pipe

[worn oar]

Well I really wanted to use up all 2,100 uranium I had available, so it was kind of a no-brainer.

[ornate saffron]

havew you asked the Modding discord for help? ( i assujme this is modded

[arctic hound]

no no i justr realised ik the fix lol

[normal orbit]

which would be like 320-ish reactors, a tenth of 3404

[tall lantern]

was gonna say, that feels an order of magnitude out

[worn oar]

Oh you're right I wasn't currently accounting for the splitting of waste. It's actually 3,395 reactors.

[sleek halo]

is any1 french looking for a run?

[tall lantern]

if they were they'd be in #1201555265942724758 with everyone else

[sleek halo]

already did

[tall lantern]

that'd suggest the answer is "not right now" then

[reef basin]

then probably no

[dusk bolt]

this is my factory should i restart since i know more now and organize better#screenshots message

[tall lantern]

why restart, got loads of game left to use your newfound knowledge

[dusk bolt]

ye but id have to rebuild it all

[tall lantern]

why

plenty more nodes on the map

[dusk bolt]

not enough space right here to set up more smelters and crafters

[tall lantern]

expand

or build upward

[dusk bolt]

its a mess

[normal orbit]

the map is quite a bit larger than that area

[reef basin]

build new factories, keep old

[dusk bolt]

wires everywhere

[reef basin]

messy factory still makes items

[dusk bolt]

ye

[reef basin]

so no reason to dismantle

[dusk bolt]

i didnt say nth about dismantling i said restart

[tall lantern]

same thing

[normal orbit]

you should make something new at least to have production of items if you really wanna rebuild, or you might run out as you rebuild and have to hand craft cause you no longer have production.

[dusk bolt]

with my new skills

[reef basin]

well restart is also "spend time to have less factory"

[tall lantern]

what's a restart but dismantling everything 😛

[reef basin]

restart is faster dismantle that doesn't give back items

[dusk bolt]

yk doing a diffrent world

[tall lantern]

if you restart every time you figure out a new preference or build style, you'll take forever to actually get through the game

[reef basin]

first finish the game fully, then restart if you want

[tall lantern]

if that appeals to you then you do you, but it's generally better to just take those learnings to your next factories

[dusk bolt]

ok

[tall lantern]

everyone's early stuff has room for improvement, don't worry about that, as long as it's actually making stuff it's sufficient for now

[dusk bolt]

ok ill make another floor

[arctic hound]

simply had 6 instead of 5 turbines on each pipe, now i gotta rebuilt em all

[dusk bolt]

#screenshots message this is all the building mats that i have on me rn

i have more crafting and stuff

[rugged jackal]

is there a feedback channel here?

[dusk bolt]

and i have a automatic biofuel thing\

idk

[arctic hound]

for?

[rugged jackal]

new update

[quiet mortar]

i think they want those on the q&a site

[rugged jackal]

ohhh thx

[quiet mortar]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[worn oar]

Can confirm. 612 hours and have not made it past phase 3 without some cheating as I'm restless and hate everything I've ever built.

[dusk bolt]

how is this #screenshots message

[arctic hound]

tad bit messy

[dusk bolt]

im talking about the upper floor

[worn oar]

Looks like foundations to me

[dusk bolt]

ha

[grand ether]

When they make Claude my supervisor at work

[quiet mortar]

bruh what

[ornate saffron]

Claude is a AI model

[sleek halo]

I think he was js disbelief by the situation

[unkempt blade]

All I know is claude built me an HMF factory and he only wrecked my train network 3 times in the process which is way better than most of my human friends would do

[jagged smelt]

That says more about your friends than Claude.

[unkempt blade]

hey be nice to my friends, not everyone understands how trains work gestures at the list of most common questions this server gets

[dusk bolt]

i finally got coal power

[young sentinel]

i should post a screenshot of my coal power pipes

[dusk bolt]

sure

[young sentinel]

i'm almost done with stage 4 and i'm working on setting up a turbo fuel plant with over 200 fuel generators. i already have over over 150 fuel generators running on diluted fuel elsewhere.
but my coal plant is still up and running with the messiest slop pile of mark 1 pipes.

i'll be back later to post it. i got an appointment.

@dusk bolt

[somber fiber]

for 2-sided trains the stations should point away from the rail right?

[dusk bolt]

ight

[quiet mortar]

what are 2 sided train stations

[somber fiber]

2 sided trains, those that go between 2 stations back and forth, with one train on each end

and cargo between

[quiet mortar]

ohh

Yeah they should point in the opposite direction

i think ive never done them

[somber fiber]

they're my bread and butter

[young sentinel]

so what i should actually do is post two screenshots.
one with my mess of mk 1 pipes for my coal power plant.
another with my much-better-arranged layout of mk 2 pipes running through multiple stages of refineries and blenders to turbo fuel output.
i was going to go all the way and make a rocket fuel power plant, but decided i want to save the nitrogen for plutonium.

be back later

[dusk bolt]

ight cya

[vagrant garnet]

im makin 600mw coal farm but i dont have miner mk2 Will this cause a problem? What should I do?

[tall lantern]

only a problem if you're not bringing in enough coal

[dusk bolt]

what can i do with powershards

[tall lantern]

overclock machines

[vagrant garnet]

Will it still work with electricity? What should I do?
;

[tall lantern]

if you're making a setup that needs 120 coal, you... bring in 120 coal

[vagrant garnet]

what if i bring 80 coal

[tall lantern]

can be from one miner, 2 miners, 4 mk1 on impure nodes, whatever

[tall lantern]

what do you think would happen

[vagrant garnet]

bom

[karmic mesa]

whats best thing for energy

rn i got 6 coal burners

[unkempt blade]

solid biofuel

[karmic mesa]

a

[unkempt blade]

a indeed

[quiet mortar]

Fuel

The fuel chain i should saz

since you can expand it the further you get into the game

[unkempt blade]

you don't like solid biofuel? 🙁

[worn oar]

I love biofuel :D #screenshots message

Yes, biomass generators are the optimal form of liquid biofuel and I cannot be convinced otherwise

It's just a pain to set up since blueprints still don't properly connect

[young sentinel]

fuel is relatively easy and straightforward to set up once you figure out how fluids work.

my current plan is finish stage four and then get to work on nuclear.

nuclear obv has the highest power output but is like a colossal task to set up.

fuel can scale into ionized fuel which has a ridiculous jules output and you don’t actually need nuclear to finish the game.

[karmic mesa]

im a lil stuck unlocking fase 2 so im still far

[young sentinel]

coal is easy to set up but eventually you will tear it all down and use the coal nodes to make diamonds

[quiet mortar]

omg i played like 8 hours today what is wrong with me

[young sentinel]

the output is low

[young sentinel]

yea keep going

[quiet mortar]

no vro i gotta sleep

[unkempt blade]

make sure you empty your gamer bucket before you go to sleep so it doesn't stink the place up even more

[young sentinel]

my gamer bucket……

[unkempt blade]

ya, so you don't have to get up during a major gamer binge

[young sentinel]

i rock at meal prep

[sudden current]

A mk 2. miner with a mk. 3 belt can service 16 coal generators, right?

[young sentinel]

i make gallon batches of pasta sauce and freeze it in meal portions

[unkempt blade]

I was going to do mine today but my A/C is being crap so I just ordered takeout instead of heating the place up even more 🙁

all extra heat production must be conserved for my gpu

[ornate saffron]

Thank Fuck For AC 31C here today

[young sentinel]

what did you get tho

[ornate saffron]

I bet its pizza

[young sentinel]

depends on the coal node

[unkempt blade]

bean curd and garlic brocoli from a chinese place

[ornate saffron]

Im making Szechuan pork with rice

[unkempt blade]

that sounds good too

[young sentinel]

solid choice

[sudden current]

It's pure

[ruby narwhal]

Will 1.2’s vehicle overhaul make them viable to use exclusively till the end of the game? I really want to make like a 6 lane highway across the whole map and finish the assembly project with them.

[young sentinel]

i think it’s 18 generators?
do you use the wiki?
i haven’t used coal power in so long…..
and when i was running on coal, i was not up to maximum efficiency, since i knew it was temporary.

[sudden current]

It's 16, but even if it were 18 that would mean 16 would still work.

[young sentinel]

the wiki says a coal plant burns 15/minute
a mk3 belt runs 270/min.

[sudden current]

Right

but the miner produces at 240

So it will only every produce 240

[young sentinel]

overclock it if you can

[sudden current]

I shouldn't have to use a power shard on it though... The math should just check out

[young sentinel]

i’m saying overclock it to get more out of it

[supple canopy]

you could technically do that since update 5 already. But yea 1.2 will make it easier

[unkempt blade]

not really "more viable" but less effort to use them heavily

[primal obsidian]

rotting fuel line

[primal obsidian]

theres a wiki?

[alpine shore]

how do you weave belts nicely?

[young sentinel]

satisfactory dot wiki dot gg

pretty sure

[primal obsidian]

wow wouldve been useful when i actually didnt know what i was doing

[raven axle]

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @leaden turret

[leaden turret]

!wiki, for reference

[primal obsidian]

when did this even happen

i swear there wasnt one last time i playted the game

[leaden turret]

did you play the game in alpha? 😛

[primal obsidian]

no i played like at the start of 1.1 ig i never got told about this

was alpha last year october 25th

[violet glen]

I think the Wiki is even linked on the main menu

[primal obsidian]

bruh i literally did not know about this at all

[leaden turret]

the current wiki has existed since update 8.

[primal obsidian]

okay ig i never knew about this

okay nvm i guess i did know and then forgot

[unkempt blade]

fandom is only for the real OGs so unless you're worried about how cool people think you are you should probably just use the new one

[primal obsidian]

i am NOT a real OG

[unkempt blade]

that self confidence will take you far though

[primal obsidian]

what

[unkempt blade]

You don't care what anyone thinks about you and your wiki of choice! Just oozing swagger

[primal obsidian]

should i open up my world and see what i was doing

or nah

[alpine shore]

is there a nice way to weave belts?

[earnest condor]

Weave?

[leaden turret]

think lgio

[earnest condor]

Never seen. Never will.

[primal obsidian]

yeah idk how youd weave belts

[unkempt blade]

Probably just get a pattern you like and blueprintify it so it's easy to repeat the pattern

[primal obsidian]

how do you weave belts anyway what does that mean

[leaden turret]

same way you'd weave anything else.

up and over

[primal obsidian]

oh yeah i do that all the time

[native tapir]

Poser
Tourist*

[proper aurora]

Hello, I started playing yesterday and I’m extremely overwhelmed For example, I don’t know what the best way to build everything is. I mean, should I build one factory that produces all iron-related items, or should I make a separate factory for each iron item? And if so, I have no idea how I’m supposed to transport items between the factories. Does anyone have any tips?

(I’m currently in Phase 2.)

[native tapir]

It's up to you. Don't worry about making it nice yet. Just worry about making it. Learn how manifolds work and you're good for a long time. Learn as you go

If you try to become a pro when you're just starting you're gonna hate this game

[blazing bane]

Your first playthrough is mostly FAFO. Youll figure out how it all works to your preference that way

[primal obsidian]

#screenshots message i wonder what i was doing

[native tapir]

@proper aurora Ideally you should get to phase 4, realize you did everything the worst way possible, and restart. Just like the rest of us. Lol.

[blazing bane]

Phase 4 is when my brain started making sense of the broad concepts, which was also when i looked back on my work and said ‘oh god what have i done’

[proper aurora]

I already tore everything down

[blazing bane]

Its a canon event

I recommend building based on the desired end product rather than trying to sort factories by iron, copper, etc

You can have your iron production right next to your copper production in the early game

[cunning mural]

Can you play steam satisfactory with xbox satisfacory pc version

[proper aurora]

Is it best to produce all iron components in a factory, for example, and how should I best assemble everything in the end?

[leaden turret]

not any time soon

[white dawn]

"best" is in the eye of the beholder. There's no absolute best for basically anything in the game, there's only stuff that you like better or worse. :)

[unkempt blade]

I heard we were going to get pc-console crossplay when they release the Switch version

[white dawn]

Personally I always go on about "Independency" as a build strategy: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

Basically: each factory only ever outputs to your own personal build-gun storage, and goes from ore->product. Once the factory's done, it's done. Whenever some other factory needs more of that resource, the resource gets made right inside the new factory, as an intermediate product, in exactly the quantity that the new factory needs

That does mean that you'll end up (for instance) making Rotors in dozens of different factories all over the map. But it's still the same amount of Factory you would have to make anyway, and IMO makes the process a lot easier to manage

[native tapir]

Have that portal remake guy make this on n64

[unkempt blade]

I like onedependency better where you just make a single mega factory but it works like you described otherwise

[blazing bane]

I like having one storage output for each item in the game, personally

[native tapir]

I like the strategy where I don't remember the last time I made a factory that produced things

[white dawn]

I would legit love a 2D top-down Satisfactory de-make which keeps Satisfactory's tone, aesthetics, and whimsy. Probably would end up with too much Factorio overlap, though

[blazing bane]

Every factory builds to its end product from ore

[unkempt blade]

to be fair that part of the game is pretty much optional

[blazing bane]

Simplest goal is to have an output for each item in game.

[unkempt blade]

I feel like it'd be tough to translate the decorative stuff to 2d which would probably only make the factorio overlap seem more severe

[white dawn]

Yeah, the 2Dness would be a real harsh restriction

I mean fortunately basically nobody's ever gonna take the time to try and do that, so we don't have to suffer through a subpar and ultimately disappointing attempt. :D

[leaden turret]

training mini-games in the hub computer

[craggy gate]

Does anyone know why my coal generators keep running out of coal. I have 8 generators, fed by a mk1 coal miner with mk2 belts. I let everything fill up before turning on the system. They last 3-4 generators are always running out of coal

[weak axle]

How is it split up?

[leaden turret]

what's the node purity of the coal node?

[craggy gate]

It’s normal purity

[weak axle]

There's your issue. You need 120 coal per minute, normal gives only 60

Overclock the miner to 200%

[craggy gate]

Gotcha, will do ty

[white dawn]

As a corollary, btw: I'd highly recommend getting in the habit of thinking about things in terms of the actual production numbers, not just "I have a mk1 miner." Take a peek at the machine, see how much it says it's gonna give you -- they'll all give you the exact throughput they provide (and ditto for all other machines, etc)

[craggy gate]

Yea makes sense, I watched a YouTube tutorial for this build to a T , so I couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t working lol

[dense violet]

in general I would recommend against tutorials like that as well. You don't really learn what you're doing and then you can't figure out how to fix it

[plucky bone]

Is there a way to get conveyor poles level with the slope of a ramp instead of flat like steps?

[white dawn]

I believe you can nudge things vertically now; could nudge it slightly 'into' the slope

[plucky bone]

Ok. I'll get a bit creative. Thanks.

[twin parcel]

its common for parent to kill their children in operating system processes

[versed cosmos]

did 1.2 actually change anything about how fluids work or is it just fluid trucks?

[proper oxide]

True,

[primal obsidian]

load bearing “operating system processes”

[blazing bane]

Fluids still behave the same way, if thats what you mean

[versed cosmos]

ah okay

[latent prawn]

'killing' in unix parlance is sending an async signal to another process. often is used as a syncronization mechanism. if the other process isn't expecting the signal, however, it causes it to die

[restive umbra]

the first half of this sentence had me really worried

[native tapir]

Fluids are literally perfect as is

[versed cosmos]

yeah id agree

[native tapir]

What I love about this game is that there are no bugs

[versed cosmos]

follow some very simple rules and fluids have no issues

[native tapir]

none at all. Ever. No exceptions

🤝

[latent prawn]

you should see the new fluid station's attack mode

[versed cosmos]

except those evil little creatures in caves and the swamp

[native tapir]

lol elaborate on that

you have my attention

[versed cosmos]

don't give him ideas!!!

[latent prawn]

you know how sometimes the blue spitters have their dangly bits do funny stuff?

sometimes the same happens with the station's loading hose

i caught it doing that the other night and laughed pretty hard as the hose shot at me as i was running by

[wet moon]

Hmm, drones lowkey use alot of packaged fuel

[native tapir]

Pics or it didn't happen. I've doug'd way too many people to just believe what I'm told. I've become paranoid.

[latent prawn]

happened too quick for me to snap one, lol

[native tapir]

I haven't even gotten into 1.2 much. Some stuff (like taking the toilet to space and using it for underwater building). But mainly low-hanging fruit that I just suspected would work. I will probably wait til release to dig in

Have to wait until CSS goes on their summer break to start sharing the good stuff so they can't patch it as quick 🙂

[latent prawn]

i'm really enjoying the new version

the 100x elevator cost & 5x power really breathed some fresh life into the game and the new vehicle pathing just rounds out a lot of rough edges and removes that spend-20-hrs-building-a-railway hump

[native tapir]

I'm very sad about the vehicles personally but I know it's better for most players

[latent prawn]

it really does solve one of the game's weak points

what's a bummer is you can't record factory cart paths w/o a station anymore

[native tapir]

yeah new vehicles are just trains imo

new train skins lol. But I do get why they did it and I think most players will prefer them

[glacial totem]

I had a fever dream that I built a blueprint road with two rails, then a layer of conveyorbelts going both directions, and wall power outlets that goes all over the map

is this something people do?

[worn oar]

Yes but not commonly. Also rails transmit electricity so skip the power outlets

[glacial totem]

so when people talk about roads they mean just literally concrete roads

[glacial totem]

how do you draw power from the rails?

[worn oar]

Stations

[glacial totem]

I see

[twin parcel]

What can i do with a crazy amount of rubber and plastic , I want to shut down my 2400/min fuel plant (it tank my fps) and turn them into mega rubber/plastic factory?

[latent prawn]

the 'hard' modes that change the power and recipe costs really cause changes to the calculus on trains. they're no longer cheap to run on 5x power

[latent prawn]

plastic is good for cb's, ail's, supercomputer, smart plates and rips as well. any alt that takes rubber gives a buf to production

[worn oar]

Plastic - computer, supercomputer, rubber
Rubber - Turbo motor, alt computer, alt HMF, plastic

[dense violet]

personally I recommend running power with cables under the rail anyway, that way if you ever edit your rails you don't cut off power to your world

[latent prawn]

there's also insulated cable

[latent prawn]

agreed, when you use the rail power as main conduit, wiring gets pretty gnarly quickly

[worn oar]

You guys are deleting rails?

[dense violet]

you often have to make small edits when you're adding sections

[worn oar]

I personally haven't but I guess following the main roads helps

[acoustic radish]

do tractors/trucks have any issue going up 4m slopes?

[worn oar]

Sort of? They're a bit bouncy but they will do it.

[acoustic radish]

ty

[abstract heron]

i am hoping for stream today

[twin parcel]

It's either making 1 200/min rubber + plastic or 2400/min rubber/plastic . The number could be higher if I didn't sink the resin . Hmm, looks like I have to sink some of them anyway , even if I use them for supercomputers and so on .

[normal orbit]

trucks dont, tractors might

[worn oar]

Why don't you just decommission in sections as you need more rubber/plastic

[worn oar]

Other way around. Trucks have more problems.

[lapis knot]

Some rails are bad and need to be punished for not conforming to society

[normal orbit]

? trucks can go up 8m wall slopes no issue, what are you on about

[young sentinel]

just like in real life stay off the subway train tracks kids

[copper laurel]

Either there's something wrong with me or I enjoy torturing myself and making myself suffer. Why else should I consider to either restart the playthrough or tear everything down and rebuild it in another more open area?

[acoustic radish]

can you have trucks unload and load at 1 station?

I want them to haul coal one way and iron the other

[copper laurel]

Nope

[acoustic radish]

rough

why 2 inputs and 2 outputs then smh

[copper laurel]

You'll need two, first drive through the unloading one, stay until a full inventory is unloaded then drive through the loading station

[acoustic radish]

gotcha.. thanks

and have sinks on each end for overflow so they dont get backed up >.>

[worn oar]

Higher center of gravity, more likely to tip and roll

[dense violet]

dthat only matters if you're doing mixed item trucks

[normal orbit]

are you mixing up the two

[copper laurel]

looks at my factory I think because I need four trucks to properly feed the copper alone...

[acoustic radish]

taking coal one way iron the other, otherwise no

so the concern would be if i dont empty out my coal cause its backed up... then im taking half loads of iron/coal and unloading only the iron at the coal pick up

[copper laurel]

You could use a smartsplitter to seperate coal and Iron at the unloaders output

[acoustic radish]

right but if 1 gets clogged

still need a sink

[dense violet]

hence the point about mixed trucks

[acoustic radish]

meh I was gona build my steel factory way over by my power plant but meh, ill just build it by all my iron smelting

and just xfer coal

dont need iron over there if i dont build steel mill over there

[dense violet]

or just find a spot with coal and iron next to each other

it's super commonly located that way

[copper laurel]

Run it through the smartsplitter with the third outpout being overflow towards the awsome sink, underclock the miners or increase coal/iron consumption so you have less (no) overproduction

Did you guys know, that you can snap catwalks to different production buildings in different spots?

[junior minnow]

What happed to the Satisfactory tools site? Is it still active?

[dense violet]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[junior minnow]

Okay must be an issue on my end. The site won't load.

[dense violet]

very odd! try another browser?

[junior minnow]

I tried 4. 😄

May need to reset my router.

[near frost]

is there some realese data for 1.2?

like estimate

[dense violet]

probably before midyear

[near frost]

i wanna start my new save before my shool break ends

[sterile blade]

They likely wish to be done with the update before their summer break starts :P

[near frost]

and i genuinly can not play without mods at all like i hate the night and slow hoverpack

[dense violet]

1.2 doesn't really add that much, just start it now

[dense violet]

hold shift to move faster

[near frost]

ya but i am working on a creative save with a lot of mods and other stuff and its with some of my friends its a long story

[near frost]

[dense violet]

that's why you start it now, in 1.1, where you can have mods

[sterile blade]

You're gon a need to wait longer than just release date for mods... 😅

[dense violet]

because very little changes in 1.2

[near frost]

we wanna play with space eveleter multipler and power multiplayer

[dense violet]

unless like your only goal is to make a maze of new truck paths

[near frost]

which it is

[dense violet]

eh you can get mods for that, and/or set those goals for yourself.
like you can only use 1/2 your power you make, and make 10,000 smart plates before you unlock things

all ways to not have to way 2-3 months

[near frost]

hmmm

[dense violet]

or wait 2-3 months
I truly don't care

just giving you options

[near frost]

ok i am just update to exp

[dense violet]

apparently old truck paths convert mostly to the new ones? and the things you want to do in 1.2 can be done by group agreement
that way you can keep your mods and do the things you want

but ok

like you can just decide if you make 100gw you're not allowed to use more than 20gw for the 5x multiplier of power

[tall plover]

straight up n word in #screenshots

should probably inform mods idk if theres a ping for that

[dense violet]

<@&387163995947270144> #screenshots message

also the ones above it I guess?

[toxic lichen]

huh

[sudden current]

I know it's a long shot... But is anyone familiar with the Youtuber Krydax and his "Compact, Clean, & Tileable" series?
Specifically this video (time stamped to right spot): https://youtu.be/oDskJop0G9o?si=_GEEpI-2mKmmXNs8&t=283

I'm trying to do the Merger belt/lift clip trick and I can't get it to work on the output side. I'd think it's just not possible on console or 1.1, but I was able to do it on the input side.

Oh I got it to work with one!

now just three more 😭

[toxic lichen]

lemme have a look

[sudden current]

I would appreciate it.

In many attempts, I have gotten one to work. So it is possible! I would now just like to figure out how to do it consistently. I'm on console if it matters.

[dense violet]

it's probably easier to just have a temp foudnation zooped across so you can use it's snap points

much faster too

[toxic lichen]

gonna hit you with one of those

you sure its rotated the right way

[sudden current]

Yes! Though I understand why you ask haha

I think it just might be very picky. '

[sudden current]

I'll try, but I think it's required to use the lift because of how it snaps back on reapplication.

I can snap to the lift and I can snap to the belt. Just can't seem to snap to the exact right location on the belt, even when half nudging.

[toxic lichen]

so
why dont you not do that e'-e'

and just

have a merger stacked above middle splitters that feed from lifts
which sounds
funky

[sudden current]

It does... I just really like the aesthetic the guy made in his video.

[toxic lichen]

did you see his tip for doing that?
using the conveyor lift pole things
when it goes the height increase you do it 4 times

[sudden current]

Yes. And that was the only time I got it to work. Sometimes on the other attempts, I'll see it snap to the right spot for a split second. I think it's just really hard to feather the camera on console.

I'm going to try decreasing sensitivity.

[toxic lichen]

could be yea

[sudden current]

(I've also tried the third and fifth lift heights to be sure.

I get this is something that's not supposed to work. I just really want it to lol

[toxic lichen]

it looks very finnicky even for me to attempt

[sudden current]

I'm sure there are other sleek and compact designs I can try if this one doesn't work out. I'm trying to run with compact factories this run, and this is one of the coolest layouts I've seen.

[toxic lichen]

ive got a nice compact-ish but tileable smelter bp

handles 240/min input

[sudden current]

May I see?

[toxic lichen]

lemme see if i can get my friend to open the server ;-;

[sudden current]

OK! No worries if not.

[toxic lichen]

basically all it relies on
is 2 lines of smelters
4 on each

splitters down the middle to feed them
then i stacked mergers on top of the splitters (3 splitter / merger gap)

then use lifts to feed the outputs back up top
you get to see the uhm
connect / line up lines when placing the lifts

so if you get to mk4 belts you can just
connect them up over time

but theyre opening the server so i can show it soon

[sudden current]

Thank you! You're explanation is really hard for me to understand, but I'm thankful regardless.

[toxic lichen]

im gonna dm you the screen shots

[sudden current]

OK!

[zenith pecan]

Lines of smelters, hehe, with the system I use, those are vertical stacks 😄

[toxic lichen]

i made my bp before i figured out how to nudge
So i could probably make it more compact if i tried

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message 40 smelter stacks

[toxic lichen]

how do you stack them?

i know how to stack mergers and shit
but not entire machines

[normal orbit]

nudge

[toxic lichen]

e'-e'
just nudge the mfs up?

[normal orbit]

ya

[zenith pecan]

My smelter approach is vertical towers above the miner in question #design-and-architecture message , all within the miners foorprint.

[toxic lichen]

werent you the guy that builds under the map just above the dmg zone

[sudden current]

NOOOOO I GOT IT TO WORK A SECOND TIME BUT I HAD THE MERGER THE WRONG WAY

[zenith pecan]

For nuclear processing, I have a small installation meant to turn uranium into encased cells, and my teleport hub & support, most things are on top of the map.

[toxic lichen]

ah so my first question was half right

[sudden current]

I think I just got a second one? It's hard to tell.

[toxic lichen]

i predicted it

[sudden current]

I don't get the sound effect, but I get the line.

Nope. Didn't work on that one.

@toxic lichen I discovered a much easier way to do it. While Krydax specifically says not to clip into the lift head, if you do so, you can then snap a second merger onto the side of that first one and the second merger will automatically clip into place. Just delete the first merger and voila 🙂

[toxic lichen]

big voila

[sudden current]

Literally just now learning you can climb the sides of stackable conveyor poles like a ladder

[normal orbit]

lots of things have ladders on em, like storage containers, machines and so on

[brisk crow]

Idk why after seeing stage 3 of the project assembly I gave up on playing satisfactory

[cursive crane]

Scale

When people realize that like 80% of their playtime is the last two tiers, and they look at how much effort it took to get there, burnout.

[brisk crow]

Probably burnout

[gloomy tusk]

assuming most of you are above 18 how many of you did civil engineering or mehcanical engineering and how was it?

[brisk crow]

So how do I get un-burnedout

[normal orbit]

play in bite sized chunks and it doesnt seem as overwhelming

[brisk crow]

Tbh the most scary is a idea of a mega-factory

Bro stupid auto correct

[normal orbit]

yea prob dont do mega-factories if its overhwelming you. Phase 3 is just two new components to make. Like Modular engines, you already have smart plates, so setup some oil production, make rubber and plastic. then when you done that. set up making motors. then combine all that. Dont look it at "omg i need so many modular engines" just see it as "i need two things to add". and feels less overwhelming

[cursive crane]

Dont be afraid of jumping projects, nothing wrong with leaving one thing to work on another

Explore, collect. Theres lots of that to do [slugs, spheres, sloops, drives, etc] and its a nice respite from the building.

As mentioned, do things in sections, give yourself some way of getting that nice dopamine injection from knowing something is complete or you accomplished something.

Use blueprint designer for modularity

Dont be afraid to take a break to do something cosmetic, mess with swatches, different colors, materials. If you make the factory all one bland thing it can really drone on, but creativity helps

Research the mam and the awesome shop, lots of fun improvements there

[brisk crow]

Bah there is a problem that my everything is away from everything

So it wuld take ages of converyorbelts or some new way of transport

[reef basin]

build near nodes instead of trying to build in single place

[sour cargo]

just to make sure i understand how splitters work ...
let's say i have a line of 400/min, and i want to split it into 60 and 340/min
would having a regular splitter with a mk1 belt on one side and a mk4 belt on the other side be enough?
or should i use a smart splitter with overflow for the 340 side?

[reef basin]

it may or may not work, I've seen both cases happen. imo best is to just not have 400/min and instead have 340 and 60 separately

[rigid wedge]

as long as one side consumes 60 at max and the other 340 max it will balance itself out

[sour cargo]

well the mk1 belt would ensure 60max on one side

[rigid wedge]

ensure it with the machine

[sour cargo]

the 60 goes into storage > DD tho ...

[rigid wedge]

then ye a belt would prob do it

[sour cargo]

regular splitter should be fine too, right? no need for smart

[rigid wedge]

its fine until it doesnt work then it isnt

just try it thats the fastest way to find out

[reef basin]

have separate machines making 60 and separate machines making 340

then you don't have to merge and split it 🙂

[dense violet]

unless 1 side is going to a sink it'll self balance in any case like any other manifold

[fiery pewter]

#screenshots message who's the silly frog in the corner

[near frost]

i remmber someone said there is a way to have both 1.1 and 1.2 Exp installed at the same time on Steam

[slender scarab]

hello, i'm a beginner (with some experience), and i'm building my first iron factory, and i want it to be clean and modular, so i chose to do a 16 smelter wide factory, problem is, its, enormous, what can i do to save some space/ be more efficient (sorry for my english)

[sick crane]

Okay I want to build a Turbofuel Power plant at the west coast of the map (I have all of the necessary resources routed to the general area) How should I start up the thing becouse Biomass burners dont produce enough energy

[dusk trellis]

Build vertically with dedicated floors for conveyor belts helped me a lot

Be sure to buy the floor-liftholes

[slender scarab]

that's what i'm trying to do but i don't know how to split the floors

[dense violet]

however you like. you could do 8 smelters on each floor for example

it's purely a choice of layout

[slender scarab]

yeah you're right

but i want it to look clean and idk, 16 smelters side to side looked horrendous to me lol

[dusk trellis]

I build up the machinery and just place an entire floor above them with a few meteres to spare. Build a floor ~2 meters above that for your next machinery

[sick crane]

also my other generators (coal) which I use for the factory are at their max

[dusk trellis]

Thats how I did it

[sleek halo]

whos down to play rn?

[dense violet]

make multiple rows

[dense violet]

power storage works fine

[slender scarab]

vasy

[sick crane]

oh I have 2 fully charged batteries... I forgot

[sleek halo]

dms

[dense violet]

easy to build more t oo

[dusk trellis]

I use my starter biomass plant as power storage lmao

When im about to cross the production line i still have quite the buffer to upgrade my power production

Its scary tho tho, if I fuck up once idk how to cold start anything lmao.

But everything is running quite efficient and I sink every excess so there shouldnt be any sleeping lines randomly waking up

[sick crane]

YES

[dense violet]

keep power storage instead, it'll charge up over time and you can have many GW of power on hand

[quiet mortar]

Reserve biomass is baller tho

[tall plover]

yes, but you need to download more ram so your computer can handle it

[near frost]

i do have 32GB alr

[fluid sapphire]

its real simple, if you are approaching your power production line, time to prioritize producing more power

its really hard to fuck it up if you just keep an eye on your graph

[dusk trellis]

Yes thats what ive been doing, but im scared ill forget to check the lines since I tend to forget those sorts of things lol

Its not that im fucking up constantly, im just afraid of fucking up once really badly. Keeps me on the edge, keeps it engaging 😂

[fluid sapphire]

all you gotta do is look at the graph once in a while :p

are you at the coal power stage?

this becomes less of a problem later i think

[dusk trellis]

Yes but im not planning more coal expansions since im about to hit oil. But we'll see how demand goes

[fluid sapphire]

lots of people here advise making 32 or even 64 coal burners

i got to oil with 16

[dusk trellis]

Jesus, right now I have 24

[fluid sapphire]

some even do it with 8

you dont really need much scale to get there

[dusk trellis]

I tought 24 was already abit overkill haha

[fluid sapphire]

its easily enough if you dont overbuild

small production will easily get you to oil

[dusk trellis]

Ooh im absolutely overbuilding 😂

I like my dedicated lines for alot of items

[fluid sapphire]

thats fine, you just dont really need to produce large amounts

once you get oil and a couple alts, power becomes a non-issue

HOR-> diluted packaged fuel can even easily get you to the end game

[blazing bane]

i do outputs for every item in game so i tend to need quite a bit of power lol

[dusk trellis]

Ye I figured out I can get away with 2 storage containers connected to a assembler but that does feel abit dull to me

[blazing bane]

i always do that with the elevator parts, not building an entire factory for that stuff

i did elevator part factories in my first playthrough and it was such a waste

[fluid sapphire]

i think it pays dividends if you automate at least some of that stuff