#satisfactory
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all of mine are direct belted into rotors, so meh, doesn't count
i will, its just a lot of screws, im going to have to set up multiple lines to fuel rotor production
You will thanks me later, but each time you make a factory, use the mk1 blueprint modeler
i already do
I failed to do this for 3 phase and i'm doing it on phase 4
Yeah you only get to play the game for the first time once. Trying to get too sweaty with perfect recipes messes up that experience imo
Lol, I still use these
3 lines full of screws
The best way to deal with screws (IMO) is: when a machine needs screws, make exactly that amount of screws right in front of the machine which needs it
Don't try to "centralize" screw production and route them around your factory
That's one of the main reasons why people end up hating screws, 'cause doing that with such a high-volume item when you have slower belts is, of course, a recipe for pain.
yeah the issue is im trying to balanceee perfectly
I did that at the beginning, it's a mess
But that's just the game saying "Don't Do That, Then."
same advice applies to quickwire & wire
Like literally: a machine needs 50/min screws? Make 50/min screws right in front of that machine.
I don't even recognize my first factory. It's like I never had that son.
If you've got a line of those, then yeah, blueprints can definitely help plonk that down pretty quickly, etc.
wait, isn't that the same amount that the cast screw recipe makes? 
Oh I definitely did too. :D
wait, i can just extend the manifold
Wanna see the beast ? It's still running
i can make one half of the manifold go downstairs. and the other moves upstairs
obligatory "cast screws is the best recipe in the game"
Heh, sure, though I have no doubt it'll look essentially familiar. :D
You can still "balance perfectly" while building something right in front of the next machine. :)
where does that leave iron alloy so that you double your screws?
You're just balancing Ingots/Rods/SteelBeams instead of Screws, and you'll have a much easier time doing it that way. :)
hard to explain, issue with my factories set up
when you need to double your screws you switch from cast to aluminum beams + steel screws
i got it at least
meh, aluminum has better uses
If you haven't finished this production line, then the factory's not fully "set up" yet. There's still time! 🥳
Hi, do we have an idea about when 1.2 gonna be ready ?
soon™
Like do the previous versions have been launch the same time
Not really, though definitely not for a few weeks at least. Outside estimate could be months still. :)
i know, its hard to explain
i figured it out though
End of Mai or june
It's varied. Mostly it's been something like 1-4 months after the initial Experimental launch, though some updates have taken longer (lookin' at you, Update 8!)
by soon i mean not yet
i know, soon can be 1 months or 3
than screws? I find that hard to believe!
I do think that CSS is hoping that this week's Exp patch will be the last one before public v1.2. But we'll see, and that doesn't necessarily mean that v1.2 launch will be quick
Here what it looks like, it's born like this it was not an accident :
#screenshots message
Just remember, 1.2 is always going to release tomorrow. You just have to believe hard enough
Heh, yep, feels like first-playthrough Home. :D
why me water not watering ;-;
got 2 pipes feeding 8 coal gens (180/min to 180/min x2)
got pumps for the headlift
but the water flowing into 1 of the sets of 4 is just
not keeping up with the gens usage
is there some magical priority thing with the T-junction pipe connectors?
For pipe problems, you nearly always need screenshots -- start a thread in #1038092680493801533 and post there
Remember you can detach the camera in photo mode to get some nice overhead views of the pipes
- it's glorious
- it's giving funhouse because of the ramps and angles 😆
I, nevertheless, am admirative of the splitter manifold I did on the miner side: ore goes to one splitter, then two, then 6...
It could have been 18, then 54...
That's how I rolled back in the time
(I hope you didn't take "first-playthrough" to be a dig or anything. :D)
A dig ?
A criticism, etc. :)
apparently?
the pipe floor hole things can fuck with flow rate?
Oh absolutely not, the truth tend to not bother me
Shouldn't do; that was an old bug which was fixed up 'round v1.0
I still consider this as my main hub
(actually took a few patches after v1.0, I think, to get fully stomped out, but they should be fine now)
i did make a post in questions and stuff
I do a lot of pièce I need for building
the only time ive had issues with floor holes is when a pump was to close
pumps are def not close
And going from/to my grass field hub, to pétrole hub, Electronic hub or aluminium hub etc is less than 23 seconds of hypertube
https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1502770809423528157 will this work ;-;
ah the link worked
People do seem to like that, yeah
I'm actually not super fond of "breaking" the game like that, so I don't do it myself. :)
It's not an FPS; I can take a little longer to enjoy the scenery
bush collection 🙏
I get it, I only use regular fuel in my jetpack because it makes the parkour more fun 😆
am.i ever really going to need iron ingots other than for the rods? cus i might just automate it so it makes iron plates instead..
you will need iron ingots for a lot of recipes
Define "the vast majority of all things"?
Iron is the mopst common ore as it is the backbone of the game
havent needed the ingots for anything but the rods so far
@toxic lichen 20 minutes later he will shoot portals and talk to glados
did i miss a chapter
This game has chapters? 👀
hello
hello
just build to need atm worry about the future later ^_^
restarting in the desert is fun so far
i have so nany iron ingots so i needa craft those mfs out 😭
2304 of the ingots 😒
let them go, you can get more
nah im mass producing them into plates now 😝
We also follow a lot the story of ore and metals usage in history of mankind, after stone age. At first we discovered bronze which is mostly mixes of copper with softer metals and it's commonly said to be the origin but we think we discovered bronze, coper, tin etc because they have low température of fusion, so it's probable that After discovering fire, humans observerd that rocks "bleeded". And we were curious.
After we have iron age, but as the température of fusion is really really high, we needed to use soufflet, a tool made with animals dead remains (stomac etc) to get flammes to higher températures.
After that follow a long période of upgrading our tools and knowledge, about mixing ores, creating and forging...
Coal has been used for a long moment in history, it's industrialisation is récent but it's usage is very old.
After that, we continued acquiring knowledge, experimenting etc until two major discovery: électricity, and gas/oil, around the xvii (Alessandro volta is considered as the precursor, around 1600, then it gave a lot of space for a lot of ingenious people to expériment and discover new things). Until Edison, the discovery of ac current, public lighting that changed the society forever...
For oil it's a bit random, we discovered it could burn because eventualy, some oil réserves may burn on it's own because of the accumulation of gaz, that is a lot more inflammable than oil itself. But when we discovered that oily black burning substance, our instinct was obviously to extract it, imagine: no more wood to cut, we juste have to make a liquid burn. That's why a lot of people studied the oil subject, and discovered polymères, that completely changed our world, octane that completely changed the way we travel, and gaz, that changed the way we produce and stock energy.
Don't make stuff you don't need
About this if you Ask me, I would say that fuel and gas isnt the main game changer of humanity: it is plastic and polymers.
Plastics and polymers are the fundamentals of our actual modern society
Without it, public health and doctors would make a 100 years leap back in time. Without plastic and polymères we are mostly fucked.
I think all of that is beautiful.
I think this is a topic for #off-topic-general
That's all what history of mankind inspire you ?
Without plastics we wouldn't have a garbage patch the size of France in the middle of the Pacific and microplastics in the high Alps.
Do you know what is actually beautiful though?
You. ❤️
Nah. You clearly don't know what you're talking about
Considering there is only one of you and always will be one of you, this very fact makes you actually more precious than the universe itself. Not the mention of your arrival which is one in millions of chance where a race is actually won.
While you can't be valuable as much as an impure limestone node, you should not sell yourself short.
I have multiple copies of myself arround the World
Ey can someone help out first time doing trains but the unloading freight station is literally just not working idk what to do like driving works fine it just doesnt unload😭
You need to set the station to load/unload
Depending on what you need
Ik it is on unload tho
the same station the cart you want to unload has to be in the same spot as the next station you want it unloaded at if that makes sense
so you have 3 carts, 1st one loads at 1st station, goes to unload station.. to unload the 1st cart, the 3 station has to be set to unload
Its just 1 Track
Also a train can’t dock into a station if is facing the front side
i need someone certified in MS paint to respond 🙁
Make sure the train is going into the correct side
Picture of drop off station? (in #screenshots )
First check the orientation of the station. Flat side in, round side out
one station has 3 freight cars. you load the farthest one to the left only. you go to the 2nd train station... it has 3 stations as well... but the farthest right is not where the cart will have to unload.... you have to set the farthest left station on the 2nd station to unload in order for it to get that one cart unloaded....
I sent it
The other stations work fine so i prob did that on that station
So you want the middle car to unload into a platform that is not aligned with the middle car?
I think
Put the freight platform where the freight car stops and as long as it is set to Unload you should be good.
Right now when the train stops the freight car is on the empty platform.
Lemme try that thx btw
👍
OMG TY i get it now i didnt see that empty platform 😭
I have yet to meet a Train puzzle I cannot solve 😄
Is there an altimeter in the game?
Forgive my ignorance, but what is an altimeter?
Measures altitude
Ah, not anywhere on your UI unless you enable the debug stuff.
The game does know how high you are, it just doesn't believe you need to know.
Ah. Well it should. Would be nice to match up heights for say a conveyor tray, pipes etc.
Match up how? Locally you can just use 4m Foundation heights to measure things and build at exact heights, no?
Like using a million zoops halfway across the map to set a building height.
Like a tray from factory to factory thing at a consistent height.
Genuine: Why does something halfway across the map care about the height of other things on the map?
If connecting via tray, are you not already zooping a million zoops anyway?
Is this some World Grid shit?
True I guess.
I do use world grid yes but that has nothing to do with it. It would be for say I go to factory X and see the height then go to factory Y and see if it matches before wasting a ton of time zooping.
We should have the possiblility to have the blueprint grid handy
You're building cross-map belts I take it?
I am not at all disagreeing with this, just to clarify.
SCIM makes this a trivial task
But... Truck. Train. Drone... 😭
Been there done that.
Agreed that the goal seems a bit silly, but who am I to judge
I'm making an unusual factory.
normal = boring
If they add it, would be nice.
Unfortunately I don't see them putting it on the priority list.
No need to explain yourself, I'm currently stealing building the moon
Guys, don't fight, you are both wrong
Oh ok nvm, then fight !!!
this might be a good time to consider infinite zoop
Not in 1.2
😩
Cpu be like: 😰
Don't give in to the will of the council.
See through the mods of the Jedi.
I jokingly asked my partner if I should save up for a threadripper just to get Modeler to calculate faster
96 cores
We should add a pvm mode with waves of monster and unlimited Guns
Threadripper? Those are the things that help clean out sewing machines when they jam, right? 😏
that wouldnt be satisfactory atp
And, she wants to get to the bank Monday ?
Not on satisfactory, on discord 🫣
is it possible on pc to share a world so that the other can start without the other need to be online
I swear I hate those cats from the bottom of my balls
no, but it might be more cost effective to get a used Epyc CPU and code my own version specifically around multi threading xwx
iirc dedicated servers are a thing
Depends, do you want it back so you can play on it more?
I mean using the internet nowdays is a constant battle of people vs machine (bots)
Or do you just want to give someone a world that has a headstart?
You can send your save
The green ones are just nasty.
no like a shared world so one can play without the other to be online
is worse than 
alrighty solid biofuel time
it's like, the AMD CPU between desktop grade and server grade
Use swiss transfer it's an internet website to send heavy files
What cats
That's dedicated server.
I was making a joke given the original meaning of "thread" 😭
Use arachnaphobia mode.
Is that a threat ?
Bingo
is paid right? is there a way to just host the world on the hosts pc?
How in the fuck is a language pun a threat???
I've gotten so used to seeing them jumpscare me that I'm now immune to it
Me neither but it does make them way easier to see.
I love their design though
It was so fucking funny to see those méga big cat head
Is paid or you need a 3rd pc to host at all times.
If want to "host on hosts PC" -- that person has to always be on for either player to play.
Yep. And when you stick a nobelisk to em they complain. Lol
Let's use Hamachi like before
yo why the hell do the trees in the dune desert give 200 wood for each of them
I still remember when they added spiders jumping into the game and it genuinly scared me the first time they jumped at me xD
but is there a way for example have a world where two people are on it and everyone can start the server and the first person to join hosts it on thier pc
No.
Not without a LOT of emailing.
ok
Maybe cause you have less coal so the game give you opportunity to get a lot of fuel ?
to what
That's called a LAN
(yes I was born in 90)
Person A starts file.
Person B joins.
When Person A leaves, the session ends. If B wants to keep playing, A needs to email them the world files so they can continue.
If B hosts next, fine.
If A wants to host again, B has to email back the new worldfile they continued before A boots it up.
And so on, and so forth.
Ty works perfectly also should i be scared for phase 4 doing the adaptive control units rn
So you can either always track who played last and make sure you email the most updated world file every time.
Or just dedicated.
Phase 4 is the longest
Shouldn't be scared of anything 🤷♂️ The game is just basic arithmetic. It never even gets to algebra.
or convince everyone to use syncthing
its gonna take me a while to get back near the end of phase 3 lol
It's not this big of a deal. I have to make some for phase 4 and I know I already have 3 container full of them. And you know what ? I will make a brande new factory for that
Pleasure of building > pleasure of accomplishing the tasks
also its a game everything should be fun
you just get to play the game longer
I hate how i cant reuse any of my old builds yk
= more fun
if you dont wantt to pay for dedicated servers and your pc or your friends can handle it you could try to use tunneling services
I have a train. I could send all my units by train
I dont. Too easy
i havent tried it in satisfactory as we are only playing in lan but i was hosting for friends modded minecraft and it worked like a charm
Hamachi ? 🥰
note that i am using 2 different machines tho 1 play on 1 hosts the game servers of any games i like
I dare one of the arachnophobia users to turn it off
cause what was always so annoying to setup was stuff like portforwarding and letting people connect directly to you but you take that away with tunneling
Pardon our ignorance mr richy rich
lol
(i'm joking)
imma try and get back to the point as was at in like 40 hours
Goodluck!
i was only at the 75 percent point of phase 3
just speedrun the game in a giga factory and once you're done and unlocked everything start building cool stuff
that's what i am doing
how do you even do that lol
Wait. @rough crest . Are you....
Are you the Bay Harbor Butcher ???!
avoid wasting time with everything that is not essential and bring every new resource you unlock every time in the base
i was lowk planning on building modular factories
and making a train line to a central storage area
its cool but it takes a lot of time cause you dont have access to later technologies
so you speed run the tiers then start doing stuff
im transitioning to modular factories now that i have my main base that produces stuff
got it
i think its way better in any game to try to push progression before starting to think big
cause you have better tools but thats just how i see it you can definitely succeed by building modular factories and spread out from the start
i mean i have a main save thats near the end of phase 3 but i just dont like playing on it anymore
its kind of like you start building castles houses and stuff in minecraft without having diamond tools and elytra which techinically is the end of the game but it makes playing after so much easier
thats why i restarted in the dune desert
I know it's harder with ennemies ?
They are more violent
the humble passive mode
I swear I want to put this mode. But I want the exploration part to be at least dangerous
its always better to fix stuff you already have than start from the ground up
i just dont like that save anymore
i dont have fun on it anymore
if you do that too many times because you think you can do better the previous step you will get burnt out and stop playing cause you dont see progression
my main base is looking like shi right now i tried decorating but its just spaghetti
this is my first time doing it
but it has served its purpose
It's incredible how much purple powerslugs there is in the swamps
How do I enter content for the community showcase on live streams?
Would it be more convient for me later on to do two pipelines likke this or one big pipeline? for context im taking water from the waterfalls around the west of the dune desert
#screenshots message
once i finish this game for the first time i might play in creative
Really? I started dune dessert and didn't turn on passive mode , I just build walls quick enough to dodge the attacks .
fortnite player?
full box the bogs
Hahahahaha
@lapis knot whats that factory that you posted do
is there still no benefit to using trucks instead of trains in 1.2
guys im almost done covering the map with my transit tube network a couple more lines and it should be good coverage :DDD
ive been doing this all day and had to take a break and build a fuel power plant cause otherwise id have become a robot
fluid trucks hold mmore than fluid cars
but this takes a looooot of time
ok now that i got foundations imma build vertically
"a couple more lines and it should be good coverage"
🧐🤔
ill send screenshot
Nah I was just telling myself that sounds Sketchy, like drug usage
like im thinking finishing that horizontal line up to the right and another one vertically that cuts where the nuclear power plant is and basically i covered the map in these boxes
my idea is that you can get of the tube at any intersection
and go where you please kind of fast
once i produce singularities reliably the most important pois will be connected by portals as well but this is good to build new stuff fast as well
also i sent another screenshot of a close up of the main base that produces every item in the game thats what i meant by like speedrunning the game to unlock everything
they're really good and you unlock them earlier. even tractors. I currently have one tractor bringing in all 2x normal & 2x impure coal nodes worth of mk2 miners from the northern area in the rocky desert and it's really nice :3
it's also a lot less infrastructure to set up than trains
hate me but ive always just built conveyors even over longer distances
i have 75km of belts in my save
I have 2 main hypertube grid, with 21 seconds and 14 seconds of travel time
#screenshots message
id say reroll
And I tought it was a pain in the ass already
Nah, turbo fuel is pretty interesting
what you are looking for imo is good fuel recipes (unfortunately not that one) like diluted fuel, nitro rocket fuel, heavy oil residue
it is interesting but rocket is way better
for 1 extra step
I already have diluted fuel and hor
actually with nitro rocket fuel recipe its same amount of steps if you can find it
I have a fuel generator plant, 80 generator... Only one pure node
i have 288 generator for a NORMAL node
Turbofuel may be interesting also to make fuel for the jetpack
there's no wrong way to play this game :P I haven't set up proper highways yet, so atm I have icky floating roads and tight turns. I like preserving the environment, so it's either highways and nova curves or just vehicle pathways on dirt (but I prefer highways bc terrain and it's also an opportunity to make something nice x3)
What is the process ?
hor -> diluted fuel -> nitro rocket fuel are the recipes
sent a screenshot as well i really recommend
super simple to set up as well
imo its the absolute best way to generate power
Mine is oil to HOR, 3 oil for 4 hor
Then mixer with diluted fuel, downgraded to 80% to get 80 water, 4 hor, egal 80 m3 fuel
O boy. I bet youd be cringe at my power setups. Lol use the most inefficient recipes RN for some reason. Waiting to build a big plant. Or nuclear. Dunno yet.
this one needs 10 refineries and 16 blenders for processing. thats it
If you struggle to manage a simple plant, nuclear is pretty hard to manage...
its all alt recipes tho and it takes a while to find them im at like 70 hard drives scanned
but you might be luckier
and hard part 288 generators ofc
No struggles. Just why make a big fuel plant to just upgrade it later or make another. Need a few factories then building a big turbo plant I think.
You can check the HDD numbers only on the save editor ?
Or there is a stat in game ?
i splitted like this 4 blenders feed 1 floor of 144 generators which are disposed as a rectangle of 18x8
and it looks kind of clean
overclocking helps a lot with that, if you're not already
https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#5.5;-68934;267510|gameLayer| upload your save here and it tells you everything thats how i made those screenshots
every power slug mercer sphere or hdd collected every structure every player everything
it might spoil the game for you tho cause it tells you where stuff is if you look too closely and once you know it
Yeah I know I'm just a wanker that doesn't want to get out of the game to check
you know it cause the game map is always the same
Ok I saw the recipe I have 2/3 of it lol
High speed connectors
so i just look at it for the grid and disabled all the other details like where resources are (im covering the entire map in radar towers anyways lol so i dont have to scan ever again) or interesting stuff
my friend found 155 mercer spheres in total and told me he had a lof of fun exploring
while i just go from the sky with my tubes and when i see something i need i just make stairs down get it and leave with my tubes to be the most efficient lol
Lol at the beginning I tought it was a générative process, when I learned the map was handcrafted at first I was disappointed, but then I embraced the fact that it was done by people who tought of everything
but he carried cause dimensional storage is game changer
I'm collecting EME to unlock dimensionnal depot
cause i put a dimensional uploader at every step in my giga starter base and boom now i have every item in the game being uploaded to my inventory automatically
Don't tell @earnest condor he will accuse me of cheating
I have 10 concrete uploaders and it does me pretty well
What the fuck?
so if you upload from different uploaders it stacks the upload speed?
yeah it uploads faster
Does it work when cloudflare is down ?
cause i have 1 uploader for every resource literally but i have max upgrades on upload speed
Dimensional Depot is not cheating.
Lying about my opinion on things is just... shit behaviour.
Directly tagging me as you lie about me is just... wrong.
So... why?
but i wonder was it better to invest those mercer sphere on more uploaders instead of the upgrade then lol
max upload speed can be limiting if you're trying to build quick
Dude that was a joke
my concrete is faster than i can build
maybe im slow
Lying about me is not a joke and will never be taken as such.
Please keep that in mind for the future.
is it more efficient to add power shards to biomass burners or to build more?
Like, I accuse myself of cheating if you remember the day correctly and our discussion this afternoon
Just means you have a gigachad concrete factory
I do like my wet concrete refinery spam
Yes. Which is why saying it was my opinion and not your own is false.
It's obvious that i'm not seriouslu saying you will accuse me of cheating, but wathever
Wet concrete my beloved
🤤
i love wet recipes
Rubber Concrete my beloved.
I tought it would annoy you a bit but like, it was plain kidding. Anyway sorry if that bothered you to this point.
thats good info tho cause i could use faster upload speed on motors for example
putting down those 288 generators today took me 5 different sessions
it's great
It did. But we are good so long as the boundary is respected moving forwards.
cause i was waiting for motors lol
love generator spam
imo upgrades offer more value early on, but both is probably good. concrete feeding into 4 base depots is still painfully slow, but having more storage space and doing other stuff like exploring/planning while it fills kind of mitigates that
I'll definitely be boosting motor upload when I get there on this playthrough
it needs to get bigger but look its a great start
288 can carry you to the end of the game
Why 288 when you can 288 @ 2.5 😉
i never understood why people needed so much power i finished with 40GW
I don't know what would be the pleasure for me to accuse someone of something on a text tchat where everything Can be checked and why I would talk badly of someone while @ him 😄
im against overclocking
ill just place another 288
Because...?
because bigger number make me smile 🙂
mine looks similar to that but all my refineries/blenders are vertically stacked so the products all fall down
Meet enough people and you'll find the ones who live for doing that 🤷♂️
I'm getting tired I tought you were talking about pc
what do you want to know
i know a lot of about computers from hardware to software
can it play crysis
I'm 29 years old thank you for the advice but I think i'm good, no need to be mean.
Because sometimes I build outposts that consume 30 GW by itself not considering the rest of my outposts 😁
i want more outposts
Oh nothing I just read you and realised after 5-6 seconds that you were talking of in game overclocking
i have a oil area main base area and an unfinished nuclear area
Not being mean. You said you didn't know. I explained. No emotion was involved.
give me some ideas for more pois
also I'm truckmaxxing this playthrough
I have a bit of knowledge too about pc
Trucks are great.
I love that you can build paths that all connect instead of driving the stupid route anfdsgase
I enjoy both systems.
i definitely want a singularities factory as a main project
yeah being able to record a route had its moments
like for longer stretches it would be nice
I mean in both cases you have to walk and
the path anyway.
but since singularities are basically the second most complex item or something it might be better to make some factories of other components firsts
what do people build usually if not rushing in a single big base
I need to make a bunch of crystal oscillators so I can use billboards
Now if Tractors had a "clearance mode" where they just consumed all rocks and trees in their path while recording... 🤤
should i just replay the game on a way larger scale with alt recipes as well?
the factory must grow
Are you on 1.2?
and then my singularities factory is the end result?
portal hub
I just put together my first motor factory!
no
what is a good amount to aim for like end game
When you say "meet enough people and you'll find the ones who live for doing that" I don't know if my interprétation is wrong but I take it as "I am sarcasticly telling you that your lack of social life may impact your empathy", and I take it a bit as "f off and find some friends who will appreciate your humorX
When it drops or if you want to switch, enable 100x on Space Elevator. You will automatically build grander stuff to try and make it "faster" 😁
I didn't know that
ohhhh i like it
difficulty options but i want to polish my first save as well so i need a plan
make a main portal for each factory/building that takes a while to get to, and multiply that by 2
elevator is already done here not like you can revert it or something
the problem is i have 2 factories in total
It is "I am not assuming the life you led. I am not assuming who you have and have not met. If you have met evil people, you either did not recall they do it just to do it, or you didn't meet enough that you have that readily on file. Hence the not knowing why people would be evil for the sake of it."
lol
oil outpost and main base
i think i already produce enough singularities for that single link
what about train/truck stations?
Plans have to start with end goals and solved backwards from there.
0 of both
100% belts
but i already had this idea to build a train network for the new factories i wanted to build
sinking as many points as possible may be an analog to making SPM
i like it
i need the statues your right thats what i have to do
Sink Points is the direct comparison to Science Points, yes.
If you're maxing that you're looking at Ballistic Warp Drives.
genius i could make the most complex and rewarding item and just sink it
you could also set up a network of portal outposts (just small buildings) across the map, like 2 to 3 depending on biome size, to get around a lot faster
Portals? You mean worse Hypercannons? 😏
i could make a thermal propulsion rocket factory for it just to sink
BWD is more.
whats bwd
Considering my joke was mean is a bit exagerated to me, I didn't know I was about to joke someone who has your jugemental and that your were not ready to handle text, I tought you could understand. And if not, at least not being this hurt by such little thing.
I would give you the same advice you gave me, I think you didnt meet enough people to think this is mean.
oh wait the real last component
I like them more at this point. no nonsense. no having to worry about forgetting to switch back to the jetpack from the hoverpack. just in, wait a few seconds, and out
what are we looking at for like 1 per second
filling a manifold at mk1 is actual torture
also thanks to sevrhan with the amazing tip of cast screws automatically being the first recipe
im making thousands already
I have very few hard boundaries when interacting with people.
Lying about me or my character is one of them.
I know you were joking now, but it's just not something I am ever going to be ok with. I am sorry if this very specific thing shapes your view of all the rest of who I am, but it is what it is at this point 🤷♂️
i was trying to calculate with 60/min but it doesnt let me
Oh I think the maximum limit is less than that, but you could always plug it into Tools.
with that exact site
meaning there is not enough resources on the map?
there might not be enough available resources
Correct.
Even less so if you consider what it takes to power such a setup is taking resources away from that final number.
i think the max excluding power is 73/min
I mean it's discord, it's internet, it's the kind of place where you have to leave your ego a bit. Some parts of internet are very very violent and having used internet for more than 15 years now yeah i'm surprised.
cause i plugged in the website all alt recipes and maximize option
But anyway I won't bother you again if That's so
i assume the values for input resources are already set to max by default (e.g. there is 12300 bauxite in the entire world)
does that sound correct
or 92100 iron
but as sevrahn pointed out we need to use something for power as well
RF using both Nitro and Base combo is the cheapest large-scale power.
don't forget sloops. at this point you might wanna use Modeler and let Tools help guide your decisions
may i ask what youre trying to make dexter
I tried using the tool to layer the factory and being helped, but I can't, I have the impression it have a contrary effect on me: I pay less attention to the game and more on the website
its interesting cause the graph is converting the only 200 reanimated sam to bauxite as well
Tools >
then 1600 goes to dark matter and 750 goes to ficsite
I'm a old dinausore I use some paper and a pen, or m'y phone notes
so yeah it looks like sam is the real limiting factor in this game together with bauxite
M’y lady
I manualy search the process from the finished product to the early product, jotte down everything, and do the maths mentaly while Building
graph paper + mechanical pencil 🥴
Use SAM to make more bauxite 😉
rotring 600
but its like so little just 3 mk6 conveyors
iron is a whopping 92k
i can just learn from this graph about the entire game if the website calculated correctly
it should have just selected the best of the best
all alt recipes toggled and producing the final item with maximize option with every resource in the game as input
nice. kuru toga roulette here x3
rotring so expensive only downside
but imma buy a whole bunch for college
i could build that i just need a couple more recipes lol
prob would take me 1 month irl tho
But yeah this is the kind of junk you can fin after a day of satisfactory on my desk or on my phone lol:
#screenshots message
but it would be 100% exploitation of the map id be the best pioneer
are you trying to use every resource node...
i mean i have the graph right here
its basically the game being solved
the numbers are not impossible honestly
hard but not impossible
like its probably under 5k machines
i thought max scale was impossible to reach but underestimated that we are not in a procedurally generated world
im liking the dune desert so far
so basically ill just decide a number of bwd to build from 1 to 73. get the graph and split it into smaller graphs to build more factories and not just a giga insane mess, connec them with tubes trains portal everything and in the end sink the bwd
currently just automating the basics on a floating platform with logistics on the bottom
there is this guy that discord keeps wanting me to invite as if he is a friend. I have blocked him and it keeps showing up wtf?
no mistake it cant be up to 73 cause we need power
Report to mods. 🤷♂️
interestingly we need 1.06 TW to make 73 BWP
Accept him as a friend, then be the weirdest person possible
so we need to find the new max of bwp considering power
he isnt requesting to be a friend either
He will leave by his own
I talked to him he doesnt know why its showing up either
I didn't understand
if i was making 15 BWD id already have enough power and thats 1 every 4 seconds not bad
for example
which is 723k points per second or 43 million points per minute
late game also gets really tight on quartz and coal. diamonds/time crystal are meatballs
time crystal ends up being needed to make dm crystal out of the residue your other processes kick off and it all kind of conspires to make you start converting ores with sam
bro i need to integrate to find out how much coupons i need to get 1k for the statue lol
i didnt know these increased in cost as you print more guess thats why i dont have a lot anymore lol
Restarting isn’t even that bad ngl
nah i need the statue 100% tho
thats an actual item to collect and put like the main portal hub or something
well, i mean, i'm in phase 3 and just kicking smart plate/autowire/versframes into the sink (along with everything else) has earned me ~600 tickets. just start building stuff
wait its that easy?
I like how packaging crude turns them into barrels and not plastic containers
by the time you start on warp drives, you'll have several golden nuts
Yeah at my peak in my last save I was generating 1.4 million points per min
iirc I was able to minimize resource needs in Modeler with turbo diamonds, but that was for 2100 uranium ore to ficsonium
Running Trucks on Packaged Crude is fun.
elevator launched
Guess they didn’t want barrels as a recipe
ya, there's a lot of tricks to squeezing everything in, but everything gets very tight
i mean if i can just afk some plates and sink them and get the statue ill take it
Have to remember most of the Packaged models were made before pipes existed.
That's why fuel, oil, and water all look so distinct.
There was no such thing as "making containers to package" because only belts existed.
whoopsie my server just crashed
probably more than that
i mean my server has been up 517 hours for this very first save of satisfactory
yeah i was thinking of sinking ballistic drives lol
slooping protein into dna capsules gives you the most tickets for the effort
do you know what is the sweep spot to sink? like is the most complex item in the game really the most beneficial?
well there has to be mathematically
BWD is the best item purely for points.
Including all the crap it takes to make it. It is still the best thing to sink if points are the goal.
the mathematical answer is that eventually ticket cost tends to infinity and all things just become noise
then its 100% going to be a bwd factory
thats wrong cause after 3k points printed the cost is the same
i just looked at the wiki
the max is 249,501,250 points per ticket
anyway, make a lot of stuff and sink it. i'm already averaging about 750k points/min
so you can assume that after you get to that cost your tickets/min are constant as well
im looking for alt recipes to make one
Hey… hey dude, guess what..
earlier in the game, items like AI limiters give a lot of points for small factory
🤔
I snorted 800 bags of copper powder
plut rods are really nice for points
thats a convenient idea
Proud of you.
making points and power at the same time
You want some?
and dealing with waste
I'm fine. But thanks.
The third one
copper poisoning
i layed down all the machines for 600 uranium/min -> 6 uranium rods all with base recipes but its kind of bad honestly i want to make it with alt recipes and maybe use more than 600 uranium/min as well
You want some nuclear spaghetti I made? Is yum
Share with the class?
No.
You fuckin jacka~
Depends on whom you ask 😉😏
Cami” you want some nuclear spaghetti?
Do you have planner
gives
I’m looking for a good nuclear setup
Even if it takes picking up every single hard drive in the map
Sure
holy shit it’s Dexter mother fucking morgan
I wonder, if you add up the power capacity of every satisfactory player in the world, would you surpass the total power production of the world ?
You have 4 hours to do this exercise, you have the right to use a draft, and the calculator
BAY HARBOR BUTCHER
And I have the right to envoke the American right to blast you 30 feet away with a shotgun for stepping on my front lawn.
"Surprise m*therfucker"
I’m Canadian haha
eagle screeching, Glock sounds, american hymn playing
Thank you
GOD BLESS AMERICA! WHAT THE F*CK IS A KILOMETER?
Idk man it doesn’t let me send links
Fun fact in France we produce around 450Twh of power each year. One of the most powerfull nuclear réactor is 900mw.
But I don’t think so tbf
900mw is the power of my coal central...
You can’t spell uranium without saying yum!
.62 miles
But that’s TWh and the h is hours
Can you measure that in bald eagles?
"Can I do the math using hamburger cheese per fifth amendment square inch ?"
So you have to multiply that by 3600 to compare with satisfactory
Yes because it's an amount of energy in tile
And honestly should be comparing in joules to make it clear
Jewels are expensive. Don’t eat them.
lol
sounds of crunching. Bits of gems on the ground. sorry, I didn’t get the memo
Math makes brain hurt.
It's not something you have to multiply by 3600, in fact it's an amount of energy.
shoveling nuclear waste into my mouth by hands huh? Wasn’t listening. This goop taste good!
@rough crest look if you are not convinced, this is my electricity bill for tuesday.
#off-topic-media message
The amount consummed is 13kwh for the whole day
why is there a massive stone above an ore spot that disables me from placing a miner there?
and how do I remove it?
Watts is joules/sec and wattshour if you multiply that by 3600 seconds in 1 hour you get just watts again assuming everything is constant and you don’t have to integrate
Did you just drop into the game?
well yeah kinda
Anyways these units are just bullshi use the international metric system
3600 joules = 1 watt.
Yeah, you mine the rock by hand. There is a deposit on top of most basic nodes you come across.
That's the corrélation.
Y ik that’s the idea but like
no i mean like a massive unminable stone
Why can’t you get your bill in joules lol
Why do Americans measure stuff in feet and inches when you have meters lol
But who counts in joules xD
Is it grey and cracked?
Joule is for small amount of power dude
Anyone who knows physics
yes
Caterium Node?
yup

Or math just use the international system always
what does this mean?
OM nom nom nom thanks for the snack
There are multiple such nodes that are gated behind you unlocking the Nobelisk.
It means boom
Yeah but in the entire world anyone who pay for electricity pays for kWh consummed in the month.
Just imagine
Just eat Taco Bell and it’ll go boom 😂
The number it would be
I am personally against that if it were for me the bills would be in joules lol
is the nobelisk unlocked soon after getting the space elevator?
I wouldnt have enough space on my screen to get my consomption in joule ?
MAM -> Sulfur -> Going to need Steel Pipes.
Cause what does it even mean kWh where h is hour I underline but measured for that month???
AAAAAAAAH! FRENCH! KILL IT!
Can still slap like 15 portable miners on it and just go back every so often.
-# Just make sure it is a multiple of 3.
It’s better to say you consumed x joules that month and you pay y per joules so it’s just a basic multiplication with no random time units
A watt is a unit of power. Ok ?
why?
does anyone know how to fix my rifle? i cant load homing ammo into it only normal ammo
A watt hour is a unit of power relative to the time
It’s not A unit of power it’s THE unit of power
Because Caterium Ore -> Ingot is 3:1 at your stage.
.... A watt is around 730 horse power
ahh okay
Where power is the variation of energy (of any kind electrical, thermal, nuclear whatever) is measured over time ie the derivative
Ahahahah you’re saying it to troll me
Now using horses to measure power alr
XD
Totaly ^^ Dépend on the système. We have SI
Impérial system.
What have we got more gallons for liters
does anyone know how to fix my rifle? i cant load homing ammo into it only normal ammo
Impérial system is indeed:
Joules
Watts
Ampère
Volt
Ohm
Celsius
did you press and hold reload?
OHH ty thanks
Imperial system is:
M'lord
Stormtrooper
M'lord
Stormtrooper
M'lord
Stormtrooper
M'lord
Stormtrooper
M'lord
Stormtrooper
😏
But seriously i would Ask you to look your pc, you have a power unit
It's an antec ? An corsair ?
That is international and of course imperial has no units for those quantities
They measure distance area and volume at max in that system
International* yeah .
Anyway can you answer m'y question ?
What is the brand of you PSU ?
Evga
what should i produce first the smart plating or the rip
Ok, so what is the power rating ?
I have like 3 from them and they all work well
I think 8 6 and 3 years old or something
Everything is gold rated
850W my main pc 650W server and the other is like 650W I don’t have it plugged rn
at this point should i automate smart plating or wait till phase 2
and just hand feed the assembler
I wanted to buy a new gpu if prices weren’t insane
Ok, so it means that it consume 850w.
So in 10hr, it will have consummed 8500Wh.
No shot
AHAHHAHAHAH
That’s literally in the name
Of the unit
And also it’s like half than that cause you don’t use the entire 850W
You use half cause it’s more efficient if you look at the curve of psus
Ur playing on words, I try to explain you the différence between Watts and Watt-hour
Yeah I know I was adding on that
@tough rune for your HMF factory id recommend putting a layer of normal grid platforms, so you can actually build properly
unless you’re already gonna do that
I mean I cannot distinct sarcasm, and when you told me you want your bill in joules in tought you were serious.
yeah i was already going to do something like that, but thank you for the advice
My bill of last mont is 360Kwh, that would be 1 296 000 000 joules lol
XD
Well congrats u trolled me like a prince
Could have be TJ
So you just say 1.296TJ
Doesn’t sound that bad come on
Or better
I had this arguments watt/watt hour in three differents school while studying...
I studyed electricity...
We have always used international system at school
You know what
I will ask électricité de France to have my electrical bill in Calories
Cause you can’t say give me 0.56 liters of beer or whatever it is
Cause the whole bar will laugh at you
You say a pint.
And you will end up with no girl
And depending on the country it's 25 or 50cl.
Last time I asked for 0,05 decaliters of beer
They called Alcoholic Anonymous
I would have called the police
Imagine if they come
How much megaparsec it is for nothing
You pay for the calories burned in the motor to set up the imperfect Carnot cycle
Dude was so lame he théorized a perfect motor without knowing how to make one
ok screws, rods, plates, rips, cable, wire being produced
is there a way to make sure drones dont fly through walls other than just putting the drone port higher than any walls?
Nope.
They sort of have building avoidance but it gets ignored if it craps their pathing too much.
unfortunate. personally, would you rather have a drone port in a place where there is no drone clipping or a place where it looks awesome
Yeah but what do you do when I build a drone port in a cave?
Just say "f you player, drone no work"?
Could make the pathing system 100x more complicated and lag your machine by automatically scanning the cave and splining a way out.
Or could do the happy medium where they ignore everything on the way up, and try to avoid stuff on the way over.
Which is what they tried to do.
Not perfect. But they did try.
chat would you rather build a decorated exterior and build a factory inside it, or build a factory then cover it with a decorated exterior
factory first no exterior
Factory first.
lowk gonna go back to my old save restarting slow asl
see, the exterior hides all the disgusting acts of hell i do when i build a factory
im just gonna move to another area or smth
but just build a nice factory and then no exterior is necessary
build a huge building that's bigger than you need and find creative ways to use all of the space
truth nuke
ok so im not restarting im just gonna build in another area and when im able to produce everything again ill tear the old thing down
Would you rather have a wall penetrating drone, or random crashes without saves haha
i cannot argue with that statement
my old save was so unbelievably screwed that it was just easier to start from scratch.
how does being italian constitute for not being able to organize
i make spaghetti
Spaghetti al pomodoro il mio piatto preferito
R u really Italian?
what kind of conveyor spaghetti do you make
Cause I am
ehh like 50%
I’m 100%
italian mogging
Of course man
well my family is mostly from venice actually
Nice I love Venice
I’m from Sicily but live now in the north
Honestly I just want to move to Switzerland tho much of a nation
Bro that is nothing
thats actually tragic
That is so organized my spaghetti are 20x worse
i will rebuild factories to avoid a single conveyor belt clipping
once i automate every crafting item i’ll make a giant storage base with a MASSIVE train station underneath.
that place will be organised
yo is malenia in the chat
please do not make it wide as much as you can
have you never known defeat
not until today
who beat you
spagetti
ive never gotten to use trains because i dont like how the power consumption isnt consistent
no way is that the real blade of miquella??
do you just not use them??
Spitters
oh
gulp
Secondary power circuit, my friend
yeah i HATE splitters
i hate the spiders
we dont like splitters here swallow gang
like a singular power grid for trains?
Hey, do batteries work for individual small grids
Yeah
Possibly expand it for phase 5 buildings too
is your power consumption a straight line??
Like grids separated by power circuit
thats what i go for yeah
I mean I try to
its not perfect yet though so i regularly check for everything
Sinks help
No I do not
thats not very straight
When consumption is straight you can feel pride
@distant zinc should i skip rocket fuel straight to nuclear power
i havent found the alt recipe yet
<@&387163995947270144> #screenshots
also do you get the alt recipes from the rescanned hard drives
kick this inefficient ghoul out of here
yeah
if you have rocket fuel unlocked in the MAM
nope
it’s a great investment
my fuel plant i built in stage 3 still going strong
especially for jetpacks too
yeah i think i will make some for drones and jetpack
i usually skim past coal best i can
i hate coal
im on my first playthrough in will definiletly do in my 2nd
if you want the best value out of an oil deposit, go for nitro rocket fuel
best value from an oil deposit is nuclear power.
takes almost no oil
Ionized Fuel my beloved.
i’m terrified to reach tier 9
It's honeslty... meh.
Unless you're someone who automates Project Parts the only thing you really "get" out of Phase 5 is the mk6 belt.
i’ve never automated project parts
i just build a temporary factory, throw in the stuff needed
I am in 1.2 for the first time ever in 8 years because I put the Elevator on 100x cost 😁
and funnel it into the space elevator
do you also sleep on a bed of nails?
sounds familiar
beds of nails spreads your weight out over all the points so it's not actually doing much to you. The more nails the comfier it is
now back in my og save and in dune desert after moving now wondering how im gonna layout this factory
i’ve killed you more times than i can count
and i can’t count past 10
No. It just changes the approach to the game because you cannot speedrun it.
Racing to Phase 5 isn't an option, so I am enjoying it because I'm building things and at a scale in Phase 2 that I have never done before.
i still remember my first time defeating her
i held my breath in the entire 2nd phase almost choked myself lol
made me even fall harder for the game and her never felt like that before
compared to other bosses, malenia isn’t that aggressive
she just farms aura and walks at you a lot
i fully agree
but she hits HARD
literally only difficult cause of waterfowl learn how to dodge that and its easy
consort rahdan killed me inside
i’m yet to fight him out of fear
i died to rellana like 200 times and couldnt beat her
i probably got lucky on my 40th try
fuck it we downloading elden ring for a second playthrough
how would yall go about building a base in dune desert
im tired of my old builds near the end of phase 3 and im moving
i was so scared of him i just ignored
i have 453 hours in elden ring and i’ve played through it 3 times now
decide on your end product
plan exact location and recipes with https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production
do basic layout how the sections interact and play with foundations
or even better use satisfactory modeler on steam
tools is lowk goated
Yea phase 5 sucks , I don't even know if 10 uranium rod /min is enough.
i want to make all the basics here then ship them out to other areas, iron plates, reinforced plates, rods, screws, copper sheets, basically all the basic items and some space elevator parts
but thing is idk how much i should be producing
also wanna make some mid tier parts like rotors, motors, hmf
Use phase 5 elevator parts as reference .
might do a floor per part but idk yet
even while at phase 3
Yes cuz u use phase 3 space parts to make phase 4 parts , and use phase 4 parts for phase 5 parts .
what are the phase 4 parts
Nuclear pasta , thermal propulsion rocket
gulp
i’m lowkey a sissy, i set my space elevator parts to .25
And also magnetic field generator and assembly director system .
wow uhm
Well I use cubes as example,
1 nuclear pasta > 1 pressure cube > 1 fused modular frame > 1 hmf
its gonna take a while before i fully finish phase 3 since im rebuilding almost all my infastructure
still need the 500 modular engines
and have to remake the whole plan every time you want to see how a different recipe changes the chain? great idea
i produce as much as i can squeeze out of my extractors in a given area
make hte plan's end point be space parts then and decide on how much pm you want
like my HMF factory produces 20/min cause the iron extraction around it gets 3000 iron/min
can we stop larping already
3000? that's way too much iron
THATS HOW MUCH IT USES
i used mostly iron to substitute other materials i didn’t wanna travel for
like iron pipe alt recipe and iron wire
aswell as not using screws
shrug
iron and coal are the 2 most common combos you have on the map. You have to actively avoid them
Just have personal preference, more different nodes to be involved or less ? Do u hate this one node/item and u wanna avoid all cost?
i HATE coal!!!!
I love using iron pipes on dune dessert.
coal is my number one opp
but i dont want it to end at space elevator parts
i just want them to be there as well
Diamonds laughing in a corner (phase 5)
Sure, but once your storage of space parts fill, the 'end poin'ts become the basic parts overflowing
oh i see what you mean
since all the space parts are gonna overflow eventually i can just split off the basic parts into trains
since you have a hard time deciding on final numbers, this might help avoid that barrier
Use satisfactory modeler and choose 1 item / min for phase 5 space parts, from there u know how much stuff u need for phase 3 space parts and create a factory to automate them .
you can do that on probably every planner. That's not a mystical benifit of modeler
plus yo uget the added benifit, again, of being able to modify the entire chain with 2 clicks if you swap out recipes using tools
what youre describing is just the most basic function of a planning tool to make it a planning tool
scary
could you help me plan this out?
anyone use the interactive map?
who doesnt
i might be lowk stupid but the cordinates dont add up
wait no i am
what do you need exactly?
this is just an example for smart plates and versatile framework I just made https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=lp40gYF3o16S72s3vqpb
do the parts per min of hte basic items seem reasonable to you?
Is there any hope for satisfactory native on arm? I know this is a non thing rn I'm just wondering
arm chair
Well.... there is windows versions that run on arm based tablets. So in theory...
Is that on the website?
No, I have owned a tablet that runs windows 11 that is arm based thats all
Oh windows versions I see I thought you meant a game version that worked for it
What is arm again? I’ve heard that related to computers, is it bios related?
It's a CPU architecture
Ahh ok
ARM typically powers specialized devices such as raspberry pi, some phones, and also Apple computers