satisfactory

[bitter lodge]

and I see why power is an issue-

[void lance]

yea, i have to keep it up for all of phase 1&2..... till i can get coal going

[bitter lodge]

if you enjoy factory games, this is basically the grandfather of them. Its super in depth.
Lots of community tools online to help.
great replayability as well.

[woven zealot]

i feel like anyone that is here with us now has given up on a social life long ago

[woven zealot]

harder than factorio?

[bitter lodge]

you just may have to be patient and not scale so much?

[bitter lodge]

I can't say. I never touched factorio. The gameplay design doesn't interest me.

[woven zealot]

i see, ive just bought the game

anyone want to play and chat when its done downloading?

[bitter lodge]

#1201555265942724758

[woven zealot]

ok

[bitter lodge]

lots of options there.

[woven zealot]

[hard wolf]

Starcraft Brood War is to Factorio as FFVII remake is to Satisfactory

[woven zealot]

will this game fix my chronic back pain

[hard wolf]

this game will make it worse if you can't invest your effort into fixing your posture xwx

and also getting a healthier desk chair

[woven zealot]

only so much fixing you can do when playing on the floor

[hard wolf]

and maybe adding cushions

[bitter lodge]

This game is not something you will beat in a day...

or a week...maybe half a year.

[hard wolf]

I think the cheapest foldable plastic table/chair you can find would help a lot

[woven zealot]

id use ant chair if i could elevate the screen to the right level. but i do not have a table

[hard wolf]

do you have craigslist or facebook marketplace (facebook sucks but marketplace is an invaluable resource) in your area? you might be able to find stuff for free or very cheap

[bitter lodge]

you could go to home depot or lowes and get a plastic table...

like the ones they use at like picnics and such. that is what I did lmao

[woven zealot]

My situation is that I’m waiting to move in to another house, so I don’t want to get the full set up if I don’t have to yet

I don’t mean to be one of those people that complain about their problems, but never do anything to fix them, but I just hate to move in a desk and assemble it whenever I could just order one later and put it together where I want it

[hard wolf]

you could get something you can use as a dining room table chair combo later

[woven zealot]

I’ll have to work something out, maybe I’ll come back with a before and after

[hard wolf]

also, Ikea exists and is pretty modular. attaching and reattaching legs to a desk is probably ill-advised as the screw connections would be looser afterwards, but if you're getting a u-haul you should be able to fit it and pack stuff around it

[woven zealot]

It is done

I will play now

[cursive topaz]

#screenshots phase 4 time

i used way to much iron and concret

[hallow whale]

ooof

[ivory condor]

Looks like my building patterns anymore

[jolly plume]

why is one of my smelters running at 100% and the other at 50 there both smelting iron ore (nvm)

[latent prawn]

the input manifold needs to warm up. each machine in the line needs to have a full buffer for stuff to overflow to the next machine at the proper rate

[worn oar]

Not enough input

[cursive topaz]

It’s best to refill smelters

*prefill

[jolly plume]

thx for the answers i figured it out

after looking back and forth between the 2

[cursive topaz]

And mrk 4 belts I think can handle 8 mechines

My math could be off

[jolly plume]

also is it ok if my conveyors are packed or do i want them moving all the time does it matter?

[cursive topaz]

Moving is better, but fill is also good

*full

[sour jewel]

So um question

[cursive topaz]

And answer

[sour jewel]

Hogs with jetpacks?

[reef basin]

Yeah?

[sour jewel]

My first time encountering one

[cursive topaz]

Fun

I love the progression on this game

I remember when the blue creator was scary

Now I dominate it with metal and concrete

And oil

[jolly plume]

figured out that my smelter conveyor to my constructor convery was to small that it was clogging my stuff and letting it only run at 50% thx yall

[cursive topaz]

Lul

[ivory condor]

Depends on building patterns

[jolly plume]

i also figured that out

[ivory condor]

For balanced you want to aim for moving, manifold aka overflow general idea is all belts are full

[cursive topaz]

Sink everything else

[jolly plume]

ya mine were just not moving fixed it though

[cursive topaz]

My factory input v output is not normal

Granted my factory is idle while I’m working on upgrading it for phase 4

[jolly plume]

do yall have anyone to watch on youtube that makes actual good content for this game or nah

[cursive topaz]

Let’s game it out…

[cursive topaz]

Oh wait I do actually hang a moment

[ivory condor]

How to build a nightmare factory 101

[jolly plume]

ok

[cursive topaz]

gaming with doc

he is a legend

[cursive topaz]

what not to do lol

[jolly plume]

ive seen him in passing i think is he the grandpa?

[cursive topaz]

yea

watch his stuff cus he knows what he is doing

a trustworthy creator in these dark times

[jolly plume]

bet thx have a good one

[ivory condor]

Dark times

[leaden matrix]

Every satisfactory players grandpa

[mint cradle]

Yo

For the first line in a manifold to fill the other lines need to be clogged right

[ivory condor]

Yes

Thats how manifolds work

[mint cradle]

Nvm the belt was placed wrong

Ah ok

[sterile blade]

Please don't post the same question in multiple channels 🙏

[mint cradle]

My bad

[cursive topaz]

im realising that the first playthought is really where you learn everythign

you can reach maximum potential on play thourgh 2

[sterile blade]

There's only one first time~

[meager fern]

not if you play badly enough

[jolly solstice]

i'm on my like 5th fully serious playthrough and i still believe i've yet a lot to learn and to master

[sterile blade]

Surely I'll make things perfect in this playthrough...

[cursive topaz]

thats how you know the devs are true masters

[mint cradle]

Ok last question factories take a while to start to be more efficient right

[cursive topaz]

this is gonna be come a game i play every year for like 4 months

[ivory condor]

10 play throughs later...its still not all perfect yet

[cursive topaz]

look up manifolds vs balanced systems

manifolds are better but they have drawbacks

[ivory condor]

Drawbacks arent that many, mostly fill time

[meager fern]

drawback: its not as satisfying for me

[sterile blade]

"Wrenches are better than screwdrivers" energy here :P

[cursive topaz]

in this case manifolds are just better

[ivory condor]

And for a simple setups the drawback of manifolds arent really drawbacks imo

[cursive topaz]

just across the board

[mint cradle]

I got a big setup I just have to wait a bit

[sterile blade]

Sure... Very objectively may I add

[cursive topaz]

how big is big

[mint cradle]

8 constructors

4 smelts

[meager fern]

🤏

[mint cradle]

2 assemblers

Wowwww

[meager fern]

thats basically a starter setup

[sterile blade]

Let's not size-shame

[cursive topaz]

yea thats not not, super not totaly is and is not large

[mint cradle]

Well yeah for 5 reinforced plates and 4 rotors 🫩

[meager fern]

yeah thats tiny

[cursive topaz]

my turbo fuel plant is 2 rows of 21 i think

[jolly plume]

rn i got 6 smelters and 15 constructors

[cursive topaz]

and thats only one column, i have room for like 4

just not enough usage or oil

[cursive topaz]

oh to be new

[jolly plume]

how many you have

[mint cradle]

Any way to fill this faster

[cursive topaz]

um well im running around 100 constructors making various things

[meager fern]

i have 32 constructors and however many smelters making screws

praise be screws 🙏

[cursive topaz]

time to find cast scews

that recipe has yet to be implemented for me

but its gonna be amazing

[meager fern]

i like the aesthetics of the setup, so i'm keeping it

[cursive topaz]

just build another one

[sterile blade]

Can only do that once

[jolly plume]

is it normal to feel dumb when starting this game

[cursive topaz]

yes

it is probably the most daunting game i have ever played

[jolly plume]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1498209493715255347

[cursive topaz]

in its class

[red sun]

Buddy. I have 900 hours in this game and I feel dumber than I did when I started

[cursive topaz]

lowkey the ammount of crap this game can throw at you in one tier upgrade is insane

[meager fern]

its the dunning kruger effect in full swing

[jolly plume]

that makes me feel better...

[meager fern]

im kind of scared to find out when ill experience the valley of despair in the dunning kruger effect. my confidence is always low

[solid gust]

was just wondering, am i the only one that spends the early game using what feels like bunnyhoping from counterstrike for such a long time that once i get to other fast ways of moving that it feels like im losing speed, except now i can gain elevation?

sprint into crouchslide and jump

gain speed everytime until uphil

[cursive topaz]

bunny hopping does increase speed

[meager fern]

more so when you get the blade runners

[solid gust]

what i mean is i gain MORE speed every time i do it

[cursive topaz]

im not sure but i do the same thing

[cursive crane]

Thats apparently a new thing

Gaining speed

[solid gust]

it does require good timing to hit

but do it awhile and it starts to become second nature

anyway, was just wondering 😛

[cursive crane]

Nope. Its a pretty known mechanic

[solid gust]

i have very nearly died from gaining so much speed and airtime on what looked like i was doing a level plain jump

[cursive topaz]

have you discoverd, the cannon

[solid gust]

thing with allthat is, as an adhd person, and impatience brought by that i find myself just saying F it im going to just keep hopping until jetpack

btw i woould trade in every vehicle in the game for a hovercraft, similar to the one from NMS, has a lot of power to traverse without being TOO fast

besides trains*

[cursive crane]

Have you tried the hoverpack

Or the parachute

[solid gust]

i have but the power connection range of the hoverpack does make it a problem for long distance

[cursive topaz]

if you want to go the route of hypertube cannon, it is better than all of the other methods of movement, but its not really intended and can ruin exploration if you arnt just hopping from one base to another

[solid gust]

parachute not at all though

the problem i had was comparing hoverpack to admin flight, i wish i never used it because it made the hover feel bad

[cursive crane]

Parachutes op broken, it can go up anything more than 90° lmao

Also hoverpacks mainly meant for use inside factories, but also once you get the dd it is kinda trivial to trail poles wherever you are going

[solid gust]

mhm

[cursive topaz]

the dem depot right, not the gateway

[solid gust]

if it had faster movement by like...50% or so, it would feel better

for me, adhd tends to make my factories appear so confusing by lategame that i just start to get mad trying to figure out what the fuck i had built, and i restart

[cursive topaz]

color code

and use signs

dont make mega factories if you want to keep decent track of everything

[solid gust]

eh, causes a similar mental issue for me to do, i have tried that a bit but just ended up getting a switch flipped in my head and then started doing something on my second monitor, eventually forgetting what i had been doing in the game with that

also not a great interface for signs and paint

too many menus and submenus and text fields to use it all

[cursive topaz]

eh i just like to slam and jam untill i get the ouput

or i build it the right way

@solid gust have you heard of satisfactory modeler? and or caculator

[sterile blade]

Good thing ADA is always ready to give us kind words of encouragement

[solid gust]

a fantastic addition would be one of the things from starrupture, when setting up construction or builds, you can disconnect from the player character and get a drone camera view that has a decent vertical range and freedom of motion

[cursive topaz]

ficsit property cannot leave ficsit property

[normal orbit]

hoverpack does that basically

[jolly plume]

thx for the help saturn u boosted my rates and actually helped me make my things work

[solid gust]

slower, and far too lategame

this is something in from scratch

which is sorta my issue, making things not spaghetti from the start

[cursive topaz]

how far along are you sheal

[solid gust]

which time, because i just restarted yesterday

but i have made it up to and around nuclear power and thats when it really really starts becoming a problem for me

[warped whale]

My early game has towers everywhere. I would love an earlier hoverpack lol

[cursive topaz]

oh ok so its safe for you to build a hypertube cannon

and not ruin the game

transportation baby

[solid gust]

for traversal, sure, but i do still struggle with the organization being barred off or research based from the early game

foundations should be baseline, and i would do anything for the drone aerial view wwhen constructing from the start

[flint phoenix]

Placing a million towers is hell

[solid gust]

mhm

[cursive topaz]

use the camera

press p

and then another buttion i forget which

free cam

[solid gust]

yes, but this doesnt allow construction during

[cursive topaz]

also slow mode 1 second pls mods 5 is killing me

[solid gust]

this is exactly that, except howits used is FOR building

from SR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML9ImsxDpns

if you're interested, not my video but the only one i quickly found without an hour runtime

its such a well telegraphed building grid while using too, shows building collision lines extended out

[cursive topaz]

nice, im not gonna mod till i finish my first play through

[solid gust]

thats not a mod, its another game 😛

[cursive topaz]

im mad tired

[solid gust]

youre fine, i just like when a game takes things that are good from other games and implements them into theirs

its early access and IMO, has far far too much aggressive NPCs to enjoy for me so far

who dont only kill me, but also the structures

if not dealt with

[cursive topaz]

lowkey looks like sf

in an uncanny way ngl

[normal orbit]

not really

[solid gust]

its much different ingame but i will agree on the video itself

[cursive topaz]

tbf i only watched like 10 seconds of it

like i said im mad tired

[old minnow]

In 1.2 you can change more settings? We are 3 people. One only likes research and exploration and manual labor. While the two of us have to build fancy factories. Could 1.2 settings be adjusted so all three have about as much work to be done?

[solid gust]

theres just a bit too much hostility from the world AND npcs that makes it hard for me to just chill with it

[normal orbit]

also if you want the drone thing, you can also enable flight in the advanced game settings. or if you want hoverpack earlier, just give yourself one with scim

[cursive topaz]

or like ~ /playerfly or smth like that

[solid gust]

every like half hour the star in the sky throws a Coronal mass ejection that incinerates water and foliage temporarily, and turns structures of for a bit until their temperature drops, during this post-solar flare recovery period there are exotic materials created from the flames and thye decay once the temp settles, THAT is a loop i really like. but the enemy npcs are so insanely hostile and numerous that it becomes too much

spend half my time crafting ammo

its very pretty and i do think it is something i will periodically return to and see how updates are being received

and deployed

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> how are things looking with the community highlights automation?

[twin parcel]

what is the max through put for a drone port ? planning to transport 1305 packaged alumina / min

[obsidian zodiac]

mikaels getting jiggy w it this week

[leaden turret]

-# reminder that I already have a community highlights automation thing for generating the website

[glacial totem]

how the heck do I use the blueprint designer

it's not a craftable object

[leaden turret]

is a building, like any other

[glacial totem]

ohh right

In the Q menu

I didn't see it 🫪

You've got to built a "stage" and then put all the objects inside?

You can't just aim it an existing factory

[leaden turret]

pretty much

[glacial totem]

Ok thanks

[ivory condor]

its a stage, buildings have to be registered inside it, but its a flexible bp design, besides my "inserting complaints about space here"

But thankfully modded designers exist and work for vanilla

I do love my modded larger designers i most admit, also because sometimes i want to do prints that just dont work for current designers, such as my converter setups that are way to large for standard designers

[compact tapir]

should i do a mega base like an insanely large one with 16gb/6400mhz ryzen 8945h laptop

[ivory condor]

no won't survive

[compact tapir]

got it

[ivory condor]

even high end pcs can struggle with mega bases, its best to just avoid

[reef basin]

megabases are not recommended due to logistical and performance issues

even if you have a good PC, the logistics are still hard

[lean fossil]

IM SOO CLOSSEEE

I mean the throughput isnt amazing for NOW but as SOON as I get that DELICIOUS nuclear power and make the DELICIOUS mk6 research MHMHMHM

[vernal vortex]

whats even classified as a megabase?

[glacial totem]

I'm about to finish T4/Objective 2. Then I was going to spend time making 1200MW Coal. Should I do that or is a new type of fuel just around the corner?

[leaden turret]

big enough for parts to de-render due to distance 😛

[hard ivy]

All production in one location

[lean fossil]

Should I load balance nuclear waste 💀

[crude canyon]

Sounds efficient

[lean fossil]

Sounds nightmareish but at the same time wouldnt it be worse if I manifold it?

[crude canyon]

It would be

[hard ivy]

Radiation is gonna be worse, yeah
Not that it really matters

[crude canyon]

Now that I think about it. I actually never done nuclear

[reef basin]

All production in single place

[lyric zodiac]

You can't start a mega base at the beginning of the game really, can you?

[reef basin]

Why not?

[lyric zodiac]

It just seems too complicated to me, maybe it's a skill issue 😅

[reef basin]

Well since your first build will probably be in a single place, you're building in a megafactory style from start. But often you then start building outposts and that's no longer megafactory 🙂

[dense violet]

depends what yo uwant out of it
if you don't care if it's messy or not running smoothly? sure you can do it easily

[bronze kindle]

Sup, so i was wondering how people plan there builds (like megafactories) there would be a tool for that..right?? Till now i used Satisfactory Calculator or Satisfactory Tools, but now i am wondering how to plan that with: space, layouts, etc..

[reef basin]

SFTools are indeed a tool to plan your factories

[dense violet]

this is a good what you can use very quickly https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[bronze kindle]

Isn‘t there something for more like layout ?

[hard ivy]

That's called "the game itself"

[bronze kindle]

like to plan the actual layout of the factory, sftpols gives me inputs/outputs/numbers

[reef basin]

Ingame works best for layout planning

[bronze kindle]

I‘ll give it a try - i was just curious how some ppl build there megafactories

thought there was like planners or smth

[finite mirage]

#screenshots message

i need to get that quartz but cant get inside the cave

where the hell is the entrance omg

[reef basin]

For megafactory the usual advice is "don't"

[hard ivy]

Scim marks the entrances
Also, I feel like their locations should be fairly obvious from the shape

[ivory condor]

I would be curious to try out a megafactory save at some point, just wondering if my framerate has any chance

[dense violet]

you can use that as a layout? better to use a spread sheet though honestly

[finite mirage]

how do u toggle that

[hard ivy]

... you have it toggled?

[finite mirage]

then where is the entrance?

[reef basin]

the problem is that floor planners are either very simplified (e.g. limited to 2D) or have to basically recreate the game, and you'll just be "playing" the game in planner, only to just then repeat the same thing ingame

while planning ingame has the advantage that once you've finished the plan, you already have it built 🙂

[finite mirage]

its just a yellow cave network

[lyric zodiac]

I really rate satisfactory modeler on Steam, it's really good for figuring out your layouts

[hard ivy]

There's 4
They're marked with a thicker line

[lyric zodiac]

You build your plan in the modeler, then use the space you have in game to meet the design you've come up with

[dense violet]

the slowest program to use in the universe?

[reef basin]

I'd say that's kinda backwards - I wouldn't limit space for a factory, I'd first build the factory and then encase it in a shape I'm happy with

[lyric zodiac]

lmao, that's certainly a take...

[dense violet]

when I can change entire plans in moments in other planners?

[lyric zodiac]

I usually start with the end product goal in mind, using the resources available as a guide, then use modeler to figure out the numbers in the middle

[dense violet]

instead of remaking everything cause it's garbage?

[lyric zodiac]

Yeah true - That's certainly how this playthrough is going!

[dense violet]

there's half a dozen tools that existed online that were VERY similar to modeler - modeler only got popular because it got on steam

[lyric zodiac]

We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this

[reef basin]

yeah, though with SFTools you can do the same without having to select everything by hnad

(obviously some people like that, just saying)

[dense violet]

but I enjoy taking 100x longer doing things!

with no lables

[lyric zodiac]

Yeah that's fair, I've used a bunch of the other tools - I'm not claiming it's objectively better than any other tool, I just like it and it works for me 😄

[ivory condor]

No idea any planning i always do ingame

[ivory condor]

Well fluid physics is totally cursed, now i have fluid thats not even making it up vertical pipes now, even with pumps properly placed, this is definitely not cursed at all

And i rebuilt it and suddenly it seems to be working more correctly, and i just put it at the same place

Thou mk2 pipes you are thou so very cursed

Well never mind this is still cursed, the fluid still isnt making it up this pipe, even with the mk2 pump properly placed

I swear mk2 pipes just make me want to give up, now none of this is even working right and it doesnt make sense, please send help

It somehow looks like a throughput issue, but the fluid just doesnt want to move through this pipe, but why its not even a manifold, its a straight section of pipe with nothing connected to it

[cursive crane]

Sounds like headlift maybe?
How much is being produced into it?
Are any machines consuming?

[unkempt blade]

Don't worry I hear 1.2 is going to make fluid stuff even more perfect than it already is

[ivory condor]

Plenty only about 20m out of 50, but fluid isnt going up anyways

Absolutely no problems here...seems fine

[ivory condor]

Btw that isnt the only problem, my manifolds despite being looped, are breaking to, please send help

So basically my manifolds are doomed and no known work arounds

Given i can see even the looped was failing to, welp its over

[frosty sedge]

Do you mean production is looped and the by product of another machine is used or am I over thinking it

[ivory condor]

I mean its looped and fluid still isnt properly flowing and i cant do anything else

[hard ivy]

Idk man I never loop mine and they work fine 99% of the time
And when they don't, looping only makes it worse

[ivory condor]

Mk2 pipes are just borked, idk what to do at this point besides give up

[frosty sedge]

Turn off the machines that intake it let everything fill very slowly

If not spam like 5 pumps all on different pipe segments

[cursive crane]

i got half an hour, I can pop in and take a look if you want

[ivory condor]

Somehow the issue fixed itself and i did nothing

[violet glen]

Make sure extractor output matches exactly machine consumption

If the extractor starts backing up, weird stuff happens. And yeah, also make sure all pipes are full, so there's no backflow/slooshing

[ivory condor]

I guess im just going to wing it and see if something breaks again somehow, even though i dont understand how and why its happening

[violet glen]

The "ritual" I've adopted is to block the output of one consuming machine, wait till its fluid input is entirely full. Then turn it off(and fix its output), and wait until the fluid input pipe network is completely full.

Then turn the machine back on.

[frosty sedge]

Whatchu making anyway?

[ivory condor]

My rf plant broke, was working, i went to try to understand why it stopped producing full

I still dont understand it now, so its probably going to break again somehow

[violet glen]

What you can also do to remove some of the randomness is to slap one of the big buffers right in front of the extractor, and a fully open valve right after that. What that does is prevent backflow into the extractor, reducing its idle times. And when it does go idle due to backup, the buffer keeps supplying the system until the extractor comes back on.

[ivory condor]

Mk2 pipes feel buggy, it just doesnt make logical sense what im seeing

[green fiber]

slecht, did you use mk 1 pipes in places where you should?

aka inputs to fuel gens, outputs of blenders (assuming no overclock)

[violet glen]

They're not buggy from my experience, just extremely finnicky due to how complex of a chaotic system a pipe network becomes

[green fiber]

they have a design flaw in them, that much i know after digging deeper

[violet glen]

A pipe checks both of its end, and decides based on some formula if it should send some of its contents there. If it ever decides to do that in the wrong direction...

[green fiber]

compared to mk 1 pipes

[violet glen]

Makes me wonder what happens if you exclusively build extractor->pipe->valve->pipe->valve->pipe :D

never tried it to that extreme extent. It should eliminate backflow, but does not work at junctions.

[green fiber]

valve after valve is a terrible choice, especially for liquids

it has a chance to trigger a bug that kills all head lift

if you wanna "enforce" one direction, use pumps

[scenic mirage]

is there a way to calculate how many batteries i use per minute for all my drone ports? do i need to check each drone port or is there an easier way

[ivory condor]

Its all mk2 pipes

[normal orbit]

powered pumps :p

[green fiber]

not ideal

[ivory condor]

What im seeing is definitely design flaw

[normal orbit]

i've had more issues mixing mk1 and mk2 in manifolds than just using mk2 everywhere

[green fiber]

it depends on how you mix

[ivory condor]

I dont realistically have better options?

[green fiber]

ive never encountered issues from mixing when done appropriately

[normal orbit]

main line mk2, then mk1 into all machines

[green fiber]

that generally works fine yes

if the machine doesnt need more than 300/min

[reef basin]

backflow will still happen in any pipe segment

you cannot eliminate it

[reef basin]

not really other way than checking drone ports

[ivory condor]

Mine felt like headlift was killed, but i didnt use valves, so maybe i triggered a similar bug?

[scenic mirage]

damn 😭

[green fiber]

its rocket fuel isnt it

[ivory condor]

Could be multiple bugs kill headlift and i somehow got one

[green fiber]

if you wanna force gas, use a pump

[violet glen]

There is also an issue if you for example consume 590m³ from an extractor clocked to produce 600. It will eventually back up, and enter a forced idle period due to that. And it's idle for long enough to let its internal buffer and in turn the pipe segment in front run empty, causing a backwards sloosh, which ripples the entire system into inefficiency.

[green fiber]

funny enough yes pumps work on gas

[normal orbit]

gases like a little kick in the butt with a powered pump

[green fiber]

that comes down to how you design the pipe that spreads the 600/min out to machines

if designed optimally, the extractor wont back up

[ivory condor]

That pipe carries HOR

[violet glen]

If you only consume 590 from an extractor clocked to 600, it will eventually happen

[ivory condor]

So pumps were needed for it

[green fiber]

ah.
how big is that fuel plant / save file

[violet glen]

hence, clock it appropiately

If you can't, slap a buffer right in front of it to catch that idle period

[green fiber]

that just delays the issue doesnt it

if you make 600 and use 590

[dense violet]

don't even try

that conversation has sailed

[normal orbit]

yea, with time buffer will fill due to overproduction

[green fiber]

eventually the buffer fills and you are back where you started

[violet glen]

No, in this specific case it doesn't.

The buffer will fill, but that's fine, cause it will keep supplying the network while the pump goes idle, until the pump can refill it

[green fiber]

even if the extractor idles, it will ramp production back up to 600/min and overcome the idle phase

[violet glen]

It will, but it won't do so fast enough

By the time it stops idling, it and the pipe in front are already empty, and a backflow cascade has started

[green fiber]

i doubt that

[scenic mirage]

fluids really arent that complicated 😭

[ivory condor]

8400/min rf production

[violet glen]

oil extractors idle for a shockingly long time when they back up into

[green fiber]

dont forget extractors have an internal buffer anyway

they keep outputting while idle

[violet glen]

yes, but it's small

[scenic mirage]

which recipe do you use

[green fiber]

its not small its 200 m³

[normal orbit]

5 seconds

[ivory condor]

I sure wish mine werent, but i have mk2 pipes that randomly break

[violet glen]

I've looked into this extensively, and the idle time is long enough for the internal buffer to run out, and a long pipe segment in front to run nearly empty

[scenic mirage]

how so? whatre you doing w them

[violet glen]

i.e. don't only consume almost the full 600m³ from an extractor, but not quite. It leads to bad stuff.

downclock it, and if you can't a buffer in front does fix it

[green fiber]

ive literally never seen issues with that

[ivory condor]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=wsGnR6spVJLGJhY4UJhg

[green fiber]

the extractor can buffer enough to overcome that difference

[ivory condor]

so about 655 machines for that fuel plant

[violet glen]

I had that issue and it was driving me mad. I had a network consuming the full 600, but one of the machines could back up, making the network only consume 590.

[south sinew]

it surely seems to me like trying to ram the full 600 through mk2 pipes sometimes glitches out; things work a lot better if you split it up more

[violet glen]

And once that happened, the other machines also startec chugging

[normal orbit]

yea, extractor ahs internal volume of 50, and an activation time of 5-6 seconds, once theres enough volume available to start producing

[violet glen]

and after a lot of testing, the result was that the extractor was unable to run at 98% efficiency. Only 100% or <=93%

[violet glen]

Exactly, but if you have a network in front of it consuming 590m³/m out of it, that buffer runs dry long before it spins back up

[ivory condor]

thats the fun part, im doing nothing, the pipes are just breaking on their own

[green fiber]

it could have sworn it was bigger than that

[violet glen]

it's tiny, yeah

[ivory condor]

aka my rf plant shut down, i went up there because i touched nothing, so i didnt understand what happened, to fine my HOR lines randomly not working, even with pumps placed in the correct place

[violet glen]

and idles for long

[normal orbit]

50m^3 is still enough to last for 12 seconds at 600/min

[green fiber]

5

[normal orbit]

not to mention the pipe volume between extractors and consumers

[green fiber]

600/min is 10/sec

so 50 m³ lasts 5 seconds

[violet glen]

consumption is also bursty

it does not flow at a fully clean rate

[normal orbit]

it doesnt need to

[frosty sedge]

Have U tried manually letting every pipe fill up pretty sure it flows better when full

[green fiber]

in that time the oil network should be able to bridge stuff, assuming pipeline pumps are present

if you only have the extractor to push oil, then thats gonna be an issue, yes

[violet glen]

That's literally what I just explained?

[normal orbit]

main issue is you running extractor at 600/min instead of 590/min

[frosty sedge]

Oh mb I not reading everything just trying to help

[violet glen]

yeah, ideally you just don't do that

but in my case I simply had one machine consuming 10 out of the full 600 go idle due to output full

[ivory condor]

btw those pipes were full before the problematic spot, where the fluid just refused to go up more, even with the pump there, my theory is headlift bug, so that could happen again at any time and i wont know until it happens

[violet glen]

and the whole network broke down, and I needed to figure out why

[normal orbit]

so the issue you're having is basically your own doing.

[green fiber]

do me a favour and dm me the save if possible, or use google drive or whatever

[violet glen]

it basically goes into an oscilation where stuff starts flowing back towards the extractor, leading it to back up even longer, idling longer, and no longer being able to produce the needed output

A valve at the end of the pipe right in front might be enough to fix it. A buffer followed by a valve will for sure be enough, since that buffer will then supply the network while the pump goes idle, preventing the oscilation.

[ivory condor]

should i try to find a save point with the bug present hmmm

[violet glen]

It should always be the same pipe network, no?

[normal orbit]

same?

[unkempt blade]

you should start a #1038092680493801533 thread and someone can probably help you troubleshoot it

[lean fossil]

anybody know how to make awesome sinks look cute as hell without placing them under a foundation

[uneven path]

Put them behind a wall

[unkempt blade]

make a googly-eye blueprint from signs and then attach them to the sinks

[lean fossil]

I'm crine 🙏

[abstract heron]

we need a cooking stream from the devs?

and mikael and jason 😛

[ivory condor]

well i fixed it be replacing the pump XD

[reef basin]

honestly in most cases, buffers and valves cause more issues than they solve

[coarse shadow]

Which Recipe is better for Rocket Fuel? Nitro Rocket Fuel or the Base Recipe?

[cosmic junco]

if you're starting a new setup, Nitro Rocket Fuel hands down

if you already have a bunch of turbo fuel, the base recipie might make more sense

[earnest condor]

Are you planning to make Ionized?

[coarse shadow]

not yet no

[earnest condor]

Ever, at all?

[cosmic junco]

nitro rocket fuel couldn't be simpler

[coarse shadow]

I have only a small setup of Turbo Fuel (36 Gens)

[cosmic junco]

then i would go for Nitro Rocket Fuel

[earnest condor]

If you're going to make RF and stop at RF -> use Nitro.
If you're going to go to Ionized -> use Base Recipe.

Pretty much how it breaks down.

[reef basin]

"better" is always subjective

all recipes are "good" (in the sense of "they are useful for something")

[ornate saffron]

nitro uses more sulfer, But is simpler then the other rocket fuel recipes. If you goal is getting to credits 600 oil of nitrol rocket fuel will get you there

if your goal is to minimize inputs and maximize outputs the Base rocket fuel is better.

[runic nacelle]

Question hog remains are stuck in the crude oil will they eventually despawn

Cus I can’t get them

[ornate saffron]

they will not. You can use SCIM to delete them or move them

[runic nacelle]

Well I’ll need help on how to do it lol

Cus I have no idea how to use the thing lol

[ornate saffron]

pretty simple go to the website. click interactive map. then on the right side youll see click here to upload save. click it load your save (make note of the save location)

[runic nacelle]

Like I can share screen sometime

I seen the map but I’m not sure how to get it to show dropped items lol

[ornate saffron]

so goto the area where the hog remains is and zoom in. you should be able to see them. it maybe easier to turn off sturcture. you can do this my click the name of the catagory on the right. For example click buildings to turn off buildings

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots message

after you are done editing download your save and move it to the folder you loaded it from

#screenshots message

[abstract heron]

<@&370483737957236737> Will jason be on stream again tomorrow and Happy Monday and i am Guessing Video on Friday?

[runic nacelle]

Im in the map thing but i Dont see it

in terms the remains

nbot sure how tpo filter

[obsidian zodiac]

i will not be, i need to cook

video thursday

[abstract heron]

also jason when cooking stream?

also is it a other early week in sweeden with 4 day work week

also PLEASE tell me how uzu is

[obsidian zodiac]

maybe one of these days i stream the in-engine shorts creation process! and yes we have friday off

[abstract heron]

is uzu still giga sick?

[obsidian zodiac]

he is still not well, good vibes are appreciated ❤️

[abstract heron]

yes i am hoping that UZU gets better so 1.2 can happen

also what will you be cooking for dinner

[brittle verge]

Is there any plants I can place in this game

[obsidian zodiac]

not in the vanilla game but there are mods!

[obsidian zodiac]

im not sure man i had a late lunch

[abstract heron]

oo late lunch what u had

i feel that you should jason come on stream more often and show us more behind the scenes

[alpine patrol]

hallooo

[abstract heron]

Hallo

[ornate saffron]

all the filters a re on the right. there should be a option

[runic nacelle]

ah Found the Dropped Items thing

[ornate saffron]

sorry at work so i am popping in and out

[abstract heron]

Fun beefalo

[runic nacelle]

now that i think about it I can get the other Hog remains that went under map near the nitrogen gas xD

ok Updated Positon but Didnt actually Do anything

[ivory condor]

Patch delay more

[abstract heron]

jason just said video thursday

due to sweeden day off probbaly friday

[ivory condor]

Well hopefully a patch comes out before next month is over

[abstract heron]

or before they go out on vacation

[ivory condor]

Patch delay until after vacation

[abstract heron]

jason said uzu is still not feeling well

[abstract spade]

when 2.0

[ivory condor]

So after vacation got it

Well surely there wont be more patch delay after vacation right

[bitter lodge]

Why need patch?

Experimental lets you try the new things atm

[ivory condor]

Well they still need to have the patch tested

[abstract heron]

also some major problems i think with EXP

[ivory condor]

Aka by a wider group, aka exp

[abstract heron]

I THINK

[ivory condor]

So having patch delay to long isnt a good thing, less wider testing time

[bitter lodge]

Coffee stains is good about to getting us updates. They don't rush shit.

[ivory condor]

Well yeah, why its not a good thing patch is delay to long, less testing for exp branch

[abstract heron]

and i think most of the CSS team will be out on vacation late june to august as they always do

[ivory condor]

Yeah, hopefully the patch can make it out before vacation

[bitter lodge]

Oh ya sweden is cool about that

[gentle wedge]

Anyone wana play new save on console

Pls

[abstract heron]

and 1.2 to maybe on stable before they go out on vacation

[gentle wedge]

Pls

[abstract heron]

#1201555265942724758

[gentle wedge]

Om so board

Im tipo

Nm im slow

[earnest condor]

@trim flare it means there are multiple nodes of differing purity stacks on top of each other given how zoomed out you are.

[trim flare]

okay

[glacial trench]

is water infinite ?

[trim flare]

yes

[earnest condor]

Is any resource in this game finite?

[real orchid]

anyone know the train station bug with coop?

pls help me

[glacial trench]

I don't know still new

[earnest condor]

Extraction being infinite is one of the best things that separates Satis from other factory games.

[abstract heron]

Which i do LOVE infinte things

[gentle wedge]

Wana play anyone

[earnest condor]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[abstract heron]

in #1201555265942724758

[gentle wedge]

Ik nobody there

[glacial trench]

is pure the highest yielding ?

[earnest condor]

Doesn't mean bring it to the wrong channel 🤷‍♂️

[green fiber]

ye

[glacial trench]

I just found a pure coal source and planing to move my base close to it

[earnest condor]

Yes. Impure -> Normal -> Pure is all 2x the previous.
So at the highest level, Impure is 300, Normal is 600, Pure is 1200.

[gentle wedge]

Just satisfactory not spicfic

[earnest condor]

Why move base when you can just bring the coal to yourself?

[abstract heron]

also mega projects take a ton of time

[lean fossil]

I crashed the game by placing a throughput monitor on nothing

[abstract heron]

bruh and how

[lean fossil]

anyone got a mod for a vertical throughput output monitor

[abstract heron]

!mods

[glacial trench]

it's far away and I don't have any viechal yet

[abstract heron]

check the modding server

[lean fossil]

ctrl
hover over foundation
and...press H and place.

[earnest condor]

What do you need the coal for then?

[abstract heron]

check the modding server 😛

[glacial trench]

power

[lean fossil]

Where

[earnest condor]

Build power over there and just bring the power line back.
No need to move entire base.

[abstract heron]

idk the command for modding server tho

mod

.mod

[glacial trench]

biomass burner is starting slow after overclocking

[glacial trench]

like just the power line ?

[earnest condor]

Yes.

[abstract heron]

Use overclocking early game for miners

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @lean fossil

[lean fossil]

holy I'm goated.

[abstract heron]

Thx marway

Join the modding server

[abstract heron]

Join that server and ask there 😛

[shrewd palm]

do the secret boombox tapes still exist or were they moved to the awesome shop

[earnest condor]

The secret ones are still out there waiting to be found.

[lean fossil]

Alright I got another question

#screenshots message
how would one split this

780 from the main belt
trying to split 240,240,240,60
while load balancing

[earnest condor]

You lost me at "balancing."

[dense violet]

clock and merge machines so there's 240 240 240 and 60 on different belts

[lean fossil]

You lost me at "clock"

[dense violet]

that's the main tool of the game. Basically shooting yourself in the face if you don't use clocking.

gl with it

[lean fossil]

This is a nuclear power facility I havent unlocked the recipe for the shards yet so I'm trying to only use them on power making machines
aka nucleananities

[bitter lodge]

you don't-

[lean fossil]

what if the main belt is 1200.

[bitter lodge]

load balancing requires all outputs to be the same value-

[earnest condor]

Tf is a nucleananite?

[dense violet]

you can under clock , doesn't take shards
but also there's more than 5000 shards available on the map

terrible argument

[lean fossil]

nuclear poweralanooni

[lean fossil]

No I provided a VERY good argument

I'm not walking all of that

[earnest condor]

That is not a word.

[lean fossil]

That's why I'm using it

[earnest condor]

To intentionally be misunderstood?

[lean fossil]

I DONT even know why I'm wasting time I could literally start nuclear production now

[lean fossil]

What came up to your mind when I used that word

[dense violet]

under clocking takes no shards

there were two points if you cared to actually read

[earnest condor]

You asked, remember that.

"This person has a 4th grade education at most."

[bitter lodge]

why not just manifold?

[lean fossil]

.-.

[bitter lodge]

if you have different levels of input, manifold works. Load balancing doesn't.

[shrewd palm]

nuclear hogs need to be stopped

justr had two instances of one following me across a biome

[earnest condor]

Gas Nobs.

[zenith pecan]

Best way to stop them is to reduce their hp to 0 before you die.

[shrewd palm]

im just baffled it managed to catch up to me

[placid stirrup]

It definitely shouldn't do that haha

[shrewd palm]

i was flying past to a hard drive and it got to me when i was up on a cliff

[rigid wedge]

do we know the size of the pioneer? I feel like a ant every time my feet touch the ground

[tall lantern]

easy to get a rough measure, stack some 1m foundations, stand next to 'em, detach photo mode

probably on the wiki too

[rigid wedge]

That’s very obvious

Same when I’m searching for the ketchup in the fridge

Ty

[jagged smelt]

You get used to it if you work in industry. I drove trucks where the floorboard is as high off the ground as I am tall. Those are the "normal" sized trucks.

[rigid wedge]

sadly irl you cant go in photo mode and encouple camera to check where you are and what you have done

im soon gonna start pushing for t9 with a map wide base and so far not a single train

got 25 trucks tho

[jagged smelt]

I meant you get used to the ant feeling.

[surreal ingot]

Any tips on upgrading my storage? #screenshots message

[earnest condor]

MAM > Caterium Tree > Smart Splitter

[surreal ingot]

What’s caterium

[earnest condor]

Satisfactory's version of aurum.

[latent prawn]

made up mineral because they didn't want to use gold in the game

[surreal ingot]

Well i suppose i can spend hours searching for that, but any tips for something before tier 4?

I only just got tractors

[empty bridge]

Hi All. Just getting into coal power. How is the water pump thing powered?

[latent prawn]

you can honestly just sneak a peak at the map

[latent prawn]

with power. from wires. connected to generators.

[empty bridge]

so I need a biomass burner to power up the pump?

[latent prawn]

not once you're bootstrapped

[surreal ingot]

Not as fun

[hollow geyser]

Man this train rail around the end of the map is a resource hog but it's worth it for the looks and to help supply a nuclear plant

[hollow geyser]

Basically yea up Intel the point the coal generator starts up then it's basically self sustainable (as long as you have fuel and water)

[earnest condor]

You should come across a random deposit of it just walking normally.
That unlocks the ability to scan and pinpoint exact nodes.

[gleaming wasp]

if i switched to linux, would i still be able to play the 'tory?

[reef basin]

yeah

[mental hatch]

how has no one made a computer in satisfactory with the circutry mod 😂

[mental hatch]

yeah, i use linux and it runs perfect with the built in steam proton

[gleaming wasp]

does that apply to all steam games?

[mental hatch]

really depends on the game

a quick google search will give you an idea on how well a certain game will run on linu with proton

[gleaming wasp]

so it's a talk about performance?

[mental hatch]

but tbh, just try a game, if it works = yay. if not - welcome to linux

[gleaming wasp]

i thought that the program would simply not open

[mental hatch]

sorry i worded that wrong, a google search of the game and linux distro will give you a general idea of IF a game will run out the box or if you need to do some jerryrigging or if it wont work at all

but you are also right, even if a game runs, dont forget proton is basically a windows enviroment wrapper. so you need a good enough pc to run the actual game and some headroom for proton to do its thing aswell

[gleaming wasp]

dude i'm not that good at computers, you're gonna have to dumb it WAY down for me

i'm not sure on what proton is

you mean proton vpn?

[mental hatch]

ive dm you so we dont clog this chat up with non satisfactory talk

[gleaming wasp]

aight

[hollow mountain]

using sumerslop on a particle accelerator is crazy wdym i need 6GM

[eager palm]

GigaMatts

[hollow mountain]

yes

[eager palm]

The largest Matts you’ve ever seen. Dudes are yolked

[bitter lodge]

is that overall, or like for a specific factory?

[hollow mountain]

only for one particle accelerator

[bitter lodge]

oh it takes that much power!?

[eager palm]

Can stabilize with some power storage, because it’s variable power

[reef basin]

though the easiest way is to just build tons of power 🙂

[hollow mountain]

#screenshots message

[bitter lodge]

oh those are power hungry-

[hollow mountain]

maybe i should build a huge power plant in the south east

tone of place for rocket fuel

[white dawn]

A particle accelerator on its own isn't that power-hungry, but slooping multiplies the power requirements by 4x. Throw in some overclocking and you can have some pretty wild single-machine power requirements

[white dawn]

In this context, Proton is the compatibility software that Valve uses to let Linux users play many Windows games (yes, including Satisfactory)

In the best-case scenario it's something you don't even have to think about; Satisfactory in particular is likely to Just Work

In a more technical sense: Proton is Valve's version of "Wine," which is basically an implementation of Windows. Windows software using Wine generally won't actually know that it's not running on Windows

[gleaming wasp]

it's aight

he already dm'd me the deets

[white dawn]

(which is why it's best to just talk about things in the public channels instead of DMs. DMs cause fragmentation and confusion. :)

(though in this case a redirect to #off-topic-general or something might have been a decent idea. :)

[worn oar]

Linux compatibility is in the best state it has ever been in. In general, everything can be played on Linux now with or without troubleshooting (protondb.com, Discord, forums, reddit). There are exceptions such as some older games, some games for which the graphics drivers interact poorly (rare), or games with kernel-level anticheats. Example: valorant.

[earnest condor]

Now overclock it 😉

20 GW for a single building 😁

[hollow mountain]

i dont have the power to do it

[earnest condor]

LAME. 😏

[worn oar]

Well say hello to your next project :D

Or you can make 10 quadrillion power storages and just run it for as long as you need to

[stoic salmon]

can anyone explain to me why using a somersloop to make power shards isnt doubling the output?

[earnest condor]

From slugs?

[worn oar]

The first cycle of a machine is not doubled. The parentheses indicates that it hasn't started changing the speed or sloop on the machine.

[stoic salmon]

ye

[green fiber]

it takes one cycle to "start slooping"

[worn oar]

Make something else for the first cycle, then do the shards

[green fiber]

so the first shard wont be doubled

[stoic salmon]

oh sick ty

got worried for a min there

[earnest condor]

I always just put a Rod in to make Screws to "prime" somered Constructors before bringing in actual stuff.

[worn oar]

This is the way

[hollow mountain]

its crazy how with only 120 oil i can power 100 generators

[chilly oyster]

guys how to get/produce printed circuit boards

[hollow mountain]

its in the MAM i think

[earnest condor]

What is a Printed Circuit Board?

[chilly oyster]

idk i translated it from polish in the google translator

[hollow mountain]

circuit board

[earnest condor]

!wikisearch Circuit Board

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Circuit+Board

[hollow mountain]

i think its tier 5 or 6

[earnest condor]

That thing? or are you specifically asking about one of the alternate recipes for that thing?

[chilly oyster]

no that thing. how can i produce it

[earnest condor]

What Phase are you in?

[chilly oyster]

phase 1, i need it for a thing in MAM

[earnest condor]

Then you have to wait until Phase 3 or hope you find some by a crashed pod.

[chilly oyster]

ok thanks

[west jackal]

lol as a soon to be electrical engineer its funny when people ask what a printed circuit board is, because it literally says exactly what it is xd

[earnest condor]

There is the potential that "Printed" is the translation for one of the CB alts.
Hence the need for clarification.

[west jackal]

but they asked what a printed circuit board is. im not arguiing about them not knowing what phase in the game it is, just that asking what a printed circuit board is is funny to me, even though i know not everyone will know what they are.

they are synonymous with what i do, so to me, its like asking what a notebook is

[meager kiln]

can someone advise me please. i want to do a fresh 1.2 run , but i dont want to risk if when 1.2 actually comes out, i have to start over again

is it probably safe if i do new 1.2 beta, that once 1.2 comes out i can just keep going and swap to main branch. or will i prob need to make a new run again

[tall lantern]

saves carry forward fine

[meager kiln]

cool, thanks! going to go start a fun rich evertyhing random build 🙂

[fathom pier]

when yall think 1.2 is coming to stable?

[stone python]

🔜

[tall lantern]

some time in the next 6 months

[clever burrow]

Is there a way to place a 1.1 megaprint onto a 1.2 save?

[bitter lodge]

with nitrogen gas, I can just send it vertically with no lift thingies right?

[tall lantern]

right

[bitter lodge]

scim it

[clever burrow]

what does that mean?

[bitter lodge]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com

its a save file editor website. You can edit saves, and import mega prints here.

[fathom pier]

6 months?

[clever burrow]

I tried that. Says it's not compatible.

Trying to figure out how to convert it

[primal sedge]

my saves from the experimental version will be saved for the regular version?

[earnest condor]

Yes. 1.2 saves will work on 1.2.

[primal sedge]

thanks

[vagrant crypt]

hi i need help converting to tubo fuel. i have 24 fuel power generators. can i just feed compacted coal in ? how much do i need?

[white dawn]

My own recommendation is to not convert -- if you want to start doing Turbofuel power, make new turbofuel to feed a new bank of Fuel-Powered Generators

If you open up the fuel gen control panel, there's a little orange gas-can icon next to the fuel input buffer. Click on that and it'll tell you the consumption rate for all the fuels it supports (including Turbofuel, if you have it unlocked)

That plus some math will let you know how much Turbofuel you'd need for a certain amount of power (or, probably more usefully, how many generators x/min Turbofuel can support)

As for compacted coal, that is a required resource for 2 of the 3 recipes to make Turbofuel. You can look up recipes in your codex -- hit o or n to access it, and search for "turbo"

[cold berry]

Everyone always talks about doing math and stuff. And okay, I do math sometimes. But like, most of the time I just vibe, and I've not beaten the game yet, but I have beaten phase 4

[white dawn]

It'll give you all the recipes you currently know (and let you know how many other recipes you might be missing)

[vagrant crypt]

thanks. i will search for more HDD

[white dawn]

The one drawback to that fuel-consumption chart via the gens is I seem to think it rounds the per-minute values kind of aggressively. The wiki would report some slightly more accurate per-min values in some cases

I admit I generally glance at the wiki, personally, rather than looking in-game. :D

[vagrant crypt]

Its a fun game you should play sometime

[floral sparrow]

How do you folks feel about placing floor conveyor holes on foundation borders? Zen or nah?

[grim carbon]

I just hooked up a particle accelerator for the first time

I like the way the animation fires up to do it's process!

[fair charm]

is it more efficient to overclock coal power plants?

[normal orbit]

no

just saves space

[fair charm]

ok thanks

[edgy swallow]

anyone have some blueprint collection I can borrow for early-mid game?

[bitter silo]

Its pointless but probably gonna make a room, with seperate power switches that control each factory.

I understand I could just use a single Smart Powerswitch thingy, but the concept of having a "fuseboard" is pretty cool to me, and would be a pretty decent achievement ahah

[grim carbon]

sounds awesome to me too!

[bitter silo]

I know that that is exactly what the priorty switch can do, but would look sick!

[placid stirrup]

Indeed it would, I had set out to make my own power towers and create my own "transmission vs distribution" electrical network right before power towers became a thing. The power control tower did look pretty sweet.

[earnest condor]

I mean, by the time you reach the early game you already have Aluminium set up, no?

[bitter silo]

i need smth like that haha

[edgy swallow]

nah, im doing steel

[earnest condor]

That's like.. Prologue.

😄

[edgy swallow]

really? 😆

[bitter lodge]

alum is early game!?

I consider alum like start of mid tier

[earnest condor]

Sec.

T0-2 (Phase 1) = Onboarding
T3-4 (Phase 2) = Prologue
T5-6 (Phase 3) = Tutorial
T7-8 (Phase 4) = Earlygame
T9 (Phase 5) = Midgame

Game doesn't start until you unlock the mk5.

[bitter lodge]

smmhhh

[earnest condor]

And I can fully explain my logic behind this.

[bitter lodge]

No end/late

[earnest condor]

Sandboxes by definition do not have an end.

[empty bridge]

Hi All. Do water extractor’s always need a pump attached?

[fair charm]

they pump upwards for a bit without one

[earnest condor]

Pumps are for when liquid goes UP.
If no go UP, no Pump.

[placid stirrup]

Not always, but often. The extractor itself provides some headlift (check the machine)

[bitter silo]

They have their own head-lift to them

[earnest condor]

All production buildings with a fluid output have a built-in 10m headlift.

[edgy swallow]

do you guys think should I focus on making "good" factories, or just do like working ones and progress faster? Currently doing steel, phase 1 in lift, completed hub stage 4. Next task is to get lift phase 2

[empty bridge]

I can’t see a time where the output is level

[earnest condor]

Everything you're building right now you're going to delete later when you get access to better stuff.
So I would say focus on making it work.

[placid stirrup]

There are areas where a body of water's elevation is higher than some of the surrounding area

[edgy swallow]

Ur right. I'm watching a few youtube series and they all make good stuff at the start, they use blueprints and stuff and I'm just ehh 😆

[earnest condor]

Also, again, I can fully explain why I group it the way I do. 🙁

[earnest condor]

Where you're at is the only time I ever use BPs tbh.
Quick setups just to get production online for progression.
Once I start building permanent things I rarely if ever touch the BP system because all my outposts are unique builds.

[placid stirrup]

Mostly the same here, save for train infrastructure and cannons

[earnest condor]

Fair.

[edgy swallow]

I'm at my first 25ish hours, so I still have a lot to improve on making it perfect, but I like to get inspiration, so I can learn from others builds

[earnest chasm]

Does drones Travels from A to B only or can they be like trains and travel from A-b-c-d and back to A?

[earnest condor]

A-B only.

[earnest chasm]

ok thanks

[earnest condor]

If you have the mk3 belt I can give you Sequencer.

[bitter lodge]

kind of curious, so yes please.

[edgy swallow]

I do

[earnest condor]

sliiiiiiiding into those dms 😛

[bitter lodge]

What is a sequencer?

[earnest condor]

BP I made.

[bitter lodge]

what does it do?

[placid stirrup]

Probably moves things out of order

[earnest condor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1skfpet/the_sequencer_1_bp_3_machine_37_possible_item/

[bitter lodge]

that is a lot of reading-

and I am to interested in setting up my first train to take the time to read that entire thing/spreadsheet but looks fancy.

[glass turtle]

Couldve sworn i already used to be here. Maybe this server felt victim to me cleaning up because i was exceeding 100 discord server limit. Last savegame: 2022. Yup, been a while.

[earnest condor]

Phase 1: Onboarding
-Intro to belts.
-Intro to single, solid-input systems.
-Intro to dual, solid-input systems.
Phase 2: Prologue
-Intro pipes.
-Intro to mixed-input systems (Coal gens taking fluid and solid input).
-Intro to vehicular logistics.
-Intro to varied-input production lines (dual-input machines feeding single-input machines back to feeding dual-input machines).
Phase 3: Tutorial
-Intro to byproduct (though, given how much people struggle with aluminium... people seem to ignore that this is one of the key parts of this phase...)
-Pipes 102.
-Mixed input systems 102.
-Continued expansion on varied-input systems.
-Vehicular Logistics 102.
-Intro to triple and quadruple, solid-input systems.
Phase 4: Early Game
-Intro to dual, fluid-input systems.
-Intro to dual, mixed-input systems.
-Mk5 belt unlocked -- game begins. No new system types will be introduced beyond this point. Game expects you to understand all previously taught lessons going forward.
Phase 5: Midgame
-No new systems have been introduced, all current puzzles are just using all previous lessons learned, nothing should surprise or give pause to any pioneer.

So I mark "Game Begins" at the point you exit the learning phase of the game. I.E. Tutorial is over.

[bitter lodge]

Interesting.

I think the introduction of fluids and mixing resources is a small step from early to mid. Byproduct management is mid game. But ya...There is nothing really new to learn that.

Its just a matter of basically now you are scaling up. having to fetch more resources from longer distances. Learning how to transport resources with the new options given to you as well. Trucks are a pain/lame imo. Trains help you transport long distance and mass amount. While drones being late game because they are super long distance+easy. but downside is limited amount.

[earnest condor]

As someone who has loved trucks since update 1 and sees no issues with the current system...

Please give them a chance in 1.2 with that new system that have made.

[bitter lodge]

I am not a fan of creating my own paths, and watching them bonk into each other.

the 1.2 update makes me want to try them though. I am interested in trying that.

[latent prawn]

the improvement can't be understated. less time running rails for reliable transport

[rancid plover]

hey guys

i think i overdosed on Satisfactory

i did nothing but play it for 3 days

[chilly oak]

there is no thing as "overdosing" on satisfactory

[rancid plover]

and today i got woken up at 4am by a blasting migraine

[chilly oak]

try 2 weeks

[rancid plover]

19 hours in 3 days

rusulted in terrible migraine at 4am

[chilly oak]

169 in 2 weeks

[rancid plover]

mental illness

[nocturne prairie]

you should probably take a good break

[rancid plover]

yes

i will stop for a few days

[nocturne prairie]

good. take care of yourself

[rancid plover]

i had just started refining oil

[rancid plover]

yes, i am take off work, and make good food

[worn oar]

I bought this game on February 4th and already have 672 hours between the game and the modeler application 😭

[rancid plover]

holy fuck

make some shakshouka bro

[violet glen]

Math says I just need to leave my game open for 5h now to get enough tickets for that nut.

Nothing I can build in less than 5h will notably help either

[worn oar]

Double your ballistic warp drive production

[rancid plover]

does the price for tickets plateau at some point?

logic says it should be impossible since they keep getting more expensive

[violet glen]

Don't think so

wiki has a formula that looks logarithmic

[rancid plover]

each ticket takes more and more resources

[rancid plover]

oh it does? ok il check

Coupons increase in point cost as more are acquired, until the 2,998th coupon.

[violet glen]

not sure if it actually is logarithmic, but it grows slower and slower, but never stops

[rancid plover]

Once the 2,998th coupon is reached, every subsequent coupon will cost 249,501,250 points.

[violet glen]

oh, it does stop?

[rancid plover]

so it does eventually cap... its just fucking insane

[violet glen]

I'm nowhere near that

[rancid plover]

according to the wiki yeah

[violet glen]

I think I'm ~1500 tickets deep

and stupidly spent too many of the first 1k

so now only the warp drives make a notable dent, and building factories for thos isn't exactly quick

[rancid plover]

theoretically you can make 500 million points per million if you use all resources on the map

This requires some combinations of Ballistic Warp Drive,s AI Expansion Servers, Assembly Director Systems and Plutonium Fuel Rods.

[worn oar]

Close, 480 million

[shy temple]

How does one spend tickets like that?

[rancid plover]

nope, 511 million

[shy temple]

Using tickets to buy all resources?

[rancid plover]

trophys

[violet glen]

I just want 1k for the achivement nut tropyh :D

[worn oar]

Read the fine print: at 1% clock speed on all machines, which is laughably infeasible.

[violet glen]

Currently at ~650

[rancid plover]

yes, we are talking about theoreticals

[violet glen]

Is 1% the lowest possible clock?

[worn oar]

Ok and I could theoretically push my save game through each update to take advantage of the times that the game regenerated sloops as part of an update to get extras. It doesn't count if it would never happen.

[violet glen]

Never tried to clock anything that low

[quaint cedar]

finally automated my power

[thick cave]

Chat is this how I would setup a train station to load the last car with something
#screenshots message

[rancid plover]

could happen

the same way that someone could use 100% of their resources 100% efficiently to make tickets, even though nobody will do that

[worn oar]

No. You are underestimating 1% clock speed on everything. Just the iron wire ALONE is half a million constructors. Not even with save editors can it be done.

It is not possible.

I believe at 100% clock speed building this has been done though

[next ivy]

i still see that as the only useful metric to optimize for if youve done everything else

[worn oar]

Ok nevermind it was done at 250, I haven't found it at 100%. https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1o1fb39/max_sink_points_achived_463281456_per_minute/

[thick cave]

Also is there any way to raise the railways without platforms

[hollow terrace]

After completing phase 5 / project assembly are you able to continue playing on that save? Since I want to try and 100% the game and it would be easier on my current save

[worn oar]

Yes

||A version of ADA will continue for as long as you want to play||

[hollow terrace]

Perfect thank you!

[hearty flame]

#satisfactory-memes message
lol the 2nd ones mine

that was my mate who has like 30 hours in game then just stopped playing

whereas i now have almost 400

[thick cave]

Man how do I get my blueprint to actually go on top of my existing stuff

[cursive topaz]

I think there is a filter

But I could be wrong

[next ivy]

you can press R for different placement modes

describing your problems better will get you better results tho

[lavish inlet]

I am so overwhelmed, i just started phase 5 and i dont know where and with what i should start with

[thick cave]

#1498418944057540659

[ornate saffron]

take stock of what you have. then i would focus on mk6 belts ^_^

[next ivy]

you can lock pretty much anything in place with H
and then use pageup / pagedown to change the height

[thick cave]

Problem is it doesn't line up perfectly

[lavish inlet]

take stock?

[cursive topaz]

Oh oh that could be the world grid vs current build grid

[next ivy]

press R until you get to "blueprint autoconnect"

or just "blueprint"

[thick cave]

Still doesn't work

[lean fossil]

can you sink pellets

[lavish inlet]

yes

[thick cave]

I made the entire place on the world grid

[ornate saffron]

yes as in make notes of what parts you are already producing, especially anything you have yet to put to use.

[lavish inlet]

Ahh

[frozen ingot]

signs are good for that

[lavish inlet]

Now i understand what you mean

[frozen ingot]

i for one often come back tgo a factory i built months/years ago and... i have no clue 😄

[cursive topaz]

you could try moving around to maybe get a different angle

[ornate saffron]

ya, i purpose build and when i have excess i leave a sign

[fluid sapphire]

literally not though

[thick cave]

I know but I want it to connect it to the conveyor lift setup

[frozen ingot]

like i know it's a factory that makes x, but i often forgot which recipes i use, how much input, etc

[lavish inlet]

Oh wIT PELLETS, no you cant sink them

[frozen ingot]

not that it matters that much

[lavish inlet]

i should not give advice when i am this tired, im sorry for the misinformation @lean fossil

[fluid sapphire]

gotta process until you get to rods

[lean fossil]

...I was happy for a second bro-

[cursive topaz]

could always just take like an extra min and build it manually

[thick cave]

I know but I made the blueprint for a reason

[cursive topaz]

they arnt perfect, cant always use them

[thick cave]

I guess I could use the vertical on the building tool

[next ivy]

autoconnect wont work like that anyways, unless you added extra belts at the connection point ?

[thick cave]

I added a lift and still no dice

[next ivy]

yes, what im saying is that just a lift in the blueprint will not be enough to autoconnect to a chest

you would either have to place the lift manually, or have belts inbetween the chest and lift

[thick cave]

After hearing the suggestions I added a lift and still nothing

Also I may or may not have the most complex train sorting system ever

[next ivy]

mixed wagons ?

[thick cave]

Well yes and no

Some are

[fluid sapphire]

dont know what you are doing but if you are trying to use auto-connect, the new structure you are connecting to an old one must have a belt segment attached to it

[thick cave]

They did and nothing changed

[fluid sapphire]

connection point either too far or too close

got an image of what you\re trying to do?

[next ivy]

apparently just stacking chests

[thick cave]

#1498418944057540659

[fluid sapphire]

looks like your lifts are snapped directly to the container ins and outs

[thick cave]

Yea

[fluid sapphire]

thats not going to work, like i said, you need belt stubs

so you need some distance between the lifts and the containers

[thick cave]

Aw man

How am I supposed to make it one stud when it's a storage tower

Also even without any belts it won't go on top of my existing tower

[next ivy]

with just lifts it snaps correctly for me

is there anything else in that blueprint other than lift and chests

[thick cave]

No

[normal orbit]

it'll snap fine ontop of the other containers, you just have to manually add the lift between em

[thick cave]

It doesn't...

At least for me

[normal orbit]

blueprint build mode should place em directly above, unless you've made em assymetrical

[thick cave]

How would I know

Also it's storage creates

It does that automatically when you build a tower

[normal orbit]

turn on the white outlines, they should match

[thick cave]

How?

[normal orbit]

settings

[thick cave]

Where

[normal orbit]

clearance visibility

[next ivy]

they should be on by default tho, right ?

oh, theyre off in his video

[thick cave]

Where in settings

[next ivy]

gameplay

[thick cave]

What's it called

[normal orbit]

#satisfactory message

[thick cave]

I don't see it

[next ivy]

well, actually "show clearance"
but man, can you be a bit more independant

[thick cave]

Unless I'm bline

[next ivy]

theres a searchbar

[thick cave]

Sir this my first time running into this problem

[thick cave]

It is on btw

[next ivy]

well either your video was too low res for us to see it, or it legit doesnt show up in your game

only you would know
also go check your actual question thread

since theres people in there trying to help too

[thick cave]

Fair enough

[unkempt blade]

Just click "enhance" a few times! Don't you know anything about forensics?

[stoic salmon]

(im very new so sorry if its a stupid question) i want to setup 8 coal gens and i worked out i need 3 water extractors, can i just link all my pipes together even tho they can only carry 300m3 of water (like if i make a ring to connect them all and have the output of each water extractor going to different ends)

[unkempt blade]

feeding it from more than one side is the exact right approach, Felix

[stoic salmon]

perfect cheers

also

is there a way i can take 2 conveyors out of a miner

[worn oar]

Not without mods

[stoic salmon]

i have a mk2 miner going for coal but i only have mk3 conveyors

so i can only take 270 coal per min

[worn oar]

Splitters

[stoic salmon]

but 8 coal gens take 300

[worn oar]

Correct, you can only get 270 coal/minute right now

[stoic salmon]

yeah but the one conveyor coming out of the miner is a mk3

[lusty ferry]

can somebody help me i am losing my sanity
i use satisfactory tools it give perfect calc
but it says send "125" thing that's 8.333 i cannot make sense of this, the calculation is perfect, if i add a machine here, i have to remove a previous one, if i underclock, i lose the amount, and so on, my only option is to send 90 iron rods to the thing and that's going to be insufficient

[stoic salmon]

so do i have to just limit my usage till i get better conveyors

[unkempt blade]

yeah, or find another node