satisfactory

[dense violet]

It's a crime though you can't Jump Pad Trucks now

[worn oar]

Can you switch between the modes to also use the old system or nah?

[green fiber]

nope

[minor rock]

i take it back thats genius

[green fiber]

isnt that literally "feeding ai generated stuff into ai"

[earnest condor]

Adding more trucks doesn't "fix" 1 truck unloading to 4 stations?
And the third-> people are already complaining about not having "wait until full."

Because that is the nature of gamers.
Try to help them, they complain you didn't help them the right way 🤷‍♂️

[unkempt blade]

yeah but I call it an agentic pipeline when I talk to clients

[green fiber]

devious lol

[frigid moat]

ngl i dont use trucks myself. i barely even use trains. i like the reliability of long belts and pipes

[green fiber]

i think that was the goal of the rework

reliability, especially at scale

i have only used trucks sparingly

[crude canyon]

yeah I remember you were kind of conservative

[earnest condor]

?

[worn oar]

Trucks work better when you are not near them, because they do a calculation instead of rendering and getting stuck on rocks

[frigid moat]

i feel like if i could calc how many trucks/train cars i would need to get a certain throughput i'd use it a lot more

[green fiber]

but what i do know is that the old system, when you have many vehicles on shared roads, can fail in some catastrophic ways

[earnest condor]

First time I've been called that in my life. 😂

[fluid sapphire]

You can

[frigid moat]

you can?

[fluid sapphire]

Of course

[green fiber]

you can but the math usually takes longer than just trying ingame

[crude canyon]

you're the kind of guy who dislikes it when some things change in here. TBF you do have some fair points, but I don't remember anyone else talking about the 4 stations trick

[earnest condor]

What are you shipping?
Truck or tractor?
How long is the route?

Boom. Instant answer.

[fluid sapphire]

Depends on how you set it up, if it's simple single product A to B all you need to know is the round trip time

[crude canyon]

I saturated my path with factory carts, and found out the throughput was around 4.56*stack_size items/minute

[green fiber]

trains generally dont give a RTT and trucks... dunno if the new ones do

[frigid moat]

you what

[green fiber]

so that would involve timing

[fluid sapphire]

Yeah but that's not exactly difficult or time consuming

[crude canyon]

i put as many factory carts as I could on the path

[green fiber]

well it is timing...
so id say that is consuming time

[fluid sapphire]

Only a few minutes usually, probably

[brisk crow]

time to play satisfcatory once more what can go wrong :D

[green fiber]

Everything ✨

[worn oar]

Easiest way is to let it do one round trip where there are sufficient items to load and sufficient space to unload. It gives the items/minute at the receiving station

[crude canyon]

so the factory cart can have a max throughput of 4.56 * stack size
it means that if your stack size is 500, your max throughput is 2280, if it's 50, your max throughput is 228

[worn oar]

But there's also a formula that was on the wiki and I can't find it right now

[frigid moat]

if not enough i'd just add another truck right

[brisk crow]

.-. yea already its going bad since thoes dam adaptive control units and the other stuf is so anyoing to make

i dint even start

[frigid moat]

im just sitting here scanning drives lmao

[green fiber]

average ACU moment

[earnest condor]

Simplest math @frigid moat -
Truck has 48 slots.
So anything that stacks to 100, single truck can handle it up to 2 minute total trip with mk6 belt.
2-4 mins you need 2 trucks. And so on.
200 stack items your base trip is now 4 minutes.

(vehicle slots * stack size) / (Max Belt Speed * 2) = max trip time for a single vehicle.

[brisk crow]

nice

[fluid sapphire]

You don't even need the train to transport anything, a rough time of just driving is enough

[worn oar]

That works, but if you get too many they start to collide which can be fixed with a mod

[brisk crow]

i also got 3 to scan

[frigid moat]

got it

[green fiber]

hmm thinking about it...
with trucks, the answer really is just "add more trucks" isnt it?
because of the no-lockdown-docking

[crude canyon]

in experimental it's a bit different

[green fiber]

if one truck dont do it, surely 2 will do it

[fluid sapphire]

If 2 won't maybe 3 will

[earnest condor]

If trip time greater than that final answer, divide trip time by the max time and round UP to get total cars required.

[green fiber]

meanwhile with trains, its kinda the inverse.
More train wont do it, but longer train will do it

[worn oar]

I'm looking forward to it. I'm the weirdo who finds excuses to use trucks anywhere I can

[frigid moat]

i have like an 11 train car on my save
it sucks

[brisk crow]

worst fact is that i dont have a single factory , i just have a lot of small factories

[crude canyon]

same, but honestly not sure if I like it

[fluid sapphire]

Extra trains can do it too

[green fiber]

do you have enough locomotives on it

[frigid moat]

yes

[green fiber]

because 11 cars is a LOT for a single locomotive to pull

[frigid moat]

still would rather do more trains less cars

[worn oar]

I even use factory carts to transport elevator parts to the space elevator platform because it's more satisfying :)

[earnest condor]

Correct. So full formula would be:

(vehicle slots * stack size) / (belt speed * 2) = max time

ROUNDUP (actual time / max time) = number of vehicles required.

[green fiber]

that usually only helps up to a point.
More trains usually means more docking at stations
the downside is stations dont input / output onto belts or pipes while a train docks

[crude canyon]

sent an image in your dms

[green fiber]

so worst case, you got one train after the other, docking at the station, making it so it is CONSTANTLY in "lockdown"

[fluid sapphire]

But buffering the ins/outs can completely negate that up to a point?

[frigid moat]

i meant a lot of trains for different stuff

[green fiber]

"up to a point"

[frigid moat]

right now some of my train stations are bigger than i would like

[worn oar]

Oh... so I need three plastic trucks, not one. Yikes.

[green fiber]

you cant buffer if the station doesnt have enough time to output stuff inbetween trains

[fluid sapphire]

Yeah but you're probably not sending a queue of 10 trains to one station

[earnest condor]

The main way I see as "best practice" is using trucks to draw resources from inside a biome back to a central train point in that biome and the train takes the gathered resources elsewhere.

Also solves "fueling issue" because you can just have the train drop that off.

Trucking is intrabiome.
Training is interbiome.

[green fiber]

else, just use coal

coal is great truck fuel

[frigid moat]

i forgot about fuel too, might run trucks just to drop off fuel or something stupid like that

[fluid sapphire]

I do similar. But use a drone to provide the fuel at the train station

[frigid moat]

liquid fuel input would be nice for trucks ngl

[earnest condor]

I mean. I say "fueling issue" the way I do because almost every production line uses coal or oil... so the fuel is already there. People just ignore it for some reason so they can complain about trucks.

[green fiber]

even with early oil processing, you get heavy oil, which can be turned into coke, which is STILL a great truck fuel tbh

[earnest condor]

Add water to poly resin.
Make fabric.
BOOM. TRUCK IS FUELED.

[green fiber]

fabric is VILE

[earnest condor]

I know 😂

But it works for some reason.

[green fiber]

I should report you to FICSIT HQ for that statement

[frigid moat]

fabric is genuinely diabolical what made you think of using it

[earnest condor]

YOU'RE THE ONE WHO TOLD ME IT WORKS.
Report yourself.

[frigid moat]

that is the LAST thing i would consider

[worn oar]

My personal truck fuels, in order of appearance: coal, fuel, turbofuel, rocket fuel, battery, ionized fuel, plutonium fuel rod. None of the others seem worth it TBH

[green fiber]

actually, you know whats vile?
Automate fabric to burn it in biomass burners

because thats something you can do now i guess

[worn oar]

Didn't they remove that

[frigid moat]

who the hell is using plutonium for trucks

[frigid moat]

thats a thing????

[green fiber]

oh right 1.0

[earnest condor]

I have fueled trucks on Packaged Crude Oil because I couldn't be assed to process it further.

[green fiber]

1.0 removed their fuel value

so technically, fabric as truck fuel is impossible

[frigid moat]

crude oil??

thought you had to process

[earnest condor]

Why can't we have nice things?

[worn oar]

By the absolute end game you don't need the power from plutonium fuel rods because rocket fuel is insane, and using them in vehicles is the alternative to sinking them.

[green fiber]

nah they can just burn the raw oil

(if packaged)

but you need canisters

technically, packaged HOR would be simpler

[worn oar]

Raw oil is only 320 MJ which is slightly better than coal

[earnest condor]

Nope. Trucks can run on Leaves.
You don't have to process anything.

[green fiber]

because thats just a refinery making plastic and HOR and then you just package the HOR

[earnest condor]

Single Plutonium Rod allows a truck to drive for 5.5 hours. 🤷‍♂️

[frigid moat]

you're already packaging the oil so youre processing oil to make plastic, no? just go for fuel at that point imo

[green fiber]

when are they adding Ficsonium Fuel rods to drones and trucks....

[minor rock]

Slay 💅

[crude canyon]

radioactive trucks, nice

[earnest condor]

Very useful for those of us who have a personal trick we drive.

[vernal bane]

just got the game

[earnest condor]

It's only radioactive if there is more than 1 rod.

[vernal bane]

seems fun i just placed portable miners

[green fiber]

more

[frigid moat]

this is your life now get used to it

[green fiber]

always more

[earnest condor]

Cool! Keep playing 💛

[crude canyon]

Good luck!

[vernal bane]

thanks

[minor rock]

Make sure to use the AI helper for in game if you got stuck 🌟

[shrewd palm]

This has to be bait

[earnest condor]

☝️not a thing, and no.

[green fiber]

.... or just ask in here ya know

[frigid moat]

100%

[green fiber]

we're bound to know more than AI

[minor rock]

Sometime the chat is dead though

AI instant and not let me down yet

[pale dew]

hey is there anyway to check if my drone will have enough fuel to get from a to b and back ?

[green fiber]

eh, even dead chats can come back to life

[green fiber]

if they take off, they have enough fuel to make it from A to B and back

[earnest condor]

If it takes off.

[pale dew]

alr thanks

[green fiber]

they wont even take off if they dont have enough to return "home"

[crude canyon]

it can be hard. I took a month long break from the game and only came back when I figured out buses

[minor rock]

yeah i had a moment like that but gpt got me out of it . Gemini not as good

[fluid sapphire]

New vehicle in 1.2 confirmed?

[fiery root]

Absolutely! I already asked the same rhing about 4 times and always got help!

[minor rock]

A bus would be pretty fun

[green fiber]

you can do it but busses (kinda) fall flat for high-throughput resources

[crude canyon]

then mix it up and use carts for those

[frigid moat]

really fuel inefficient too

[green fiber]

just be real and say "make a cart bus"

[frigid moat]

wait can carts dock to stations?

[green fiber]

yes

[fluid sapphire]

Carts don't need fuel at all

[humble marten]

how do i switch biomes?

[crude canyon]

way ahead of you
#screenshots message

[green fiber]

you walk over there

[humble marten]

oh i see you just picked where you start off with

[green fiber]

yep

[humble marten]

how would i transport all my materials though

[green fiber]

belt?

[crude canyon]

belts, kilometers of belts

[green fiber]

or tractors, or whatever other transport options you unlock

[fiery root]

An army of trucks

[worn oar]

However, if given access to fuel they will burn through it rapidly for no gain. So best to put them on truck stations that are not connected to fuel lines

[twin parcel]

yes but , the real problem is when u find out one truck is more than enough for the truck station and ur truck station could not clear out current batch of items when the next batch arrives , then if ur truck supposed to carry 2nd item and sent somewhere else , u end up items mixing up here and there . the solution is , accept it and design ur logistic to sent back the items where it should belong or nvr reuse ur trucks for other stuff .

[frigid moat]

ive given my factory carts turbofuel and theyve gone faster

[worn oar]

No they haven't

[frigid moat]

must be placebo ig

[green fiber]

are you mixing items in the stations?

[humble marten]

how long do i stay in glass plains until i want to switch over to like sand

[green fiber]

however long you want tbh

[crude canyon]

yeah a friend of mine made a mod called smarter truck stations, which allows the truck stations to filter out all the items coming in or out of the truck

[frigid moat]

yeah i just tested it they have fuel input for no reason

[humble marten]

and how would i find the sand? just travel everywhere or is there a specific way to find the sand biome without traveling

[worn oar]

I love that mod but it's in tier 5 so it competes with trains

[green fiber]

btw what do you mean sand biome.
sand isnt a resource

[crude canyon]

he didn't want to make it too op

[fluid sapphire]

You know, we could really use stations specific to carts. They should be all small and cute like

[humble marten]

the dessert place

[frigid moat]

its northeast

[crude canyon]

I tried talking him out of it, but he said it's basically an early programmable splitter, so it was too op

[green fiber]

deserts are either northeast or northwest edge of the map

[frigid moat]

the desert you probably want is east

[humble marten]

whats the part of the map with the most amount of resources

dessert right?

[green fiber]

depends. the dune desert only really has basic resources for example

[worn oar]

Also western edge

[twin parcel]

no the same truck take packaged water from point A and sent to point B , then takes the empty canisters from point B ans sent to point A . since the station in point B couldnt clear out packaged water on time , thats where the mixing starts .

[green fiber]

northwest edge id say.
western edge is swampy

[humble marten]

whats the one with the most then

[worn oar]

#screenshots message

[green fiber]

the forest?

[crude canyon]

yeah you have to treat them as sushi. Also, thoughts on having multiple stations if 1 isn't enough?

well you prob just need to increase wait time

[green fiber]

thats probably where a "wait until empty" setting would come in handy if trucks had that

but also: just filter the output with smart splitters

[worn oar]

I wish the drones would take packaged liquid biofuel. It makes so much sense for them to.

[twin parcel]

well it was 3 stations water stations and 3 empty canister stations , if i add more , it takes alot of space , so i was like screw it , just use smart splitters sent them to where they belong .

[green fiber]

does it tho.
better for the jetpack than drones cause liquid biofuel isnt really a fully automatic resource

[reef basin]

old man voice Back in my time drones only run on batteries

[worn oar]

I always hear this argument and it's always a little disingenuous. There is enough easily accessible trees and leaves to run your entire power grid at any stage of the game for hundreds of hours.

Without even slooping the liquid biofuel production lines

[crude canyon]

yeah them making fuel makes you want to put some in a drone station so other drones can swoop in and take some

[worn oar]

Not even counting enemies which are a renewable resource

For something you aren't going to consume at a rapid rate like drone fuel it would be a perfect solution

[crude canyon]

I don't want to stop the factory because I need to restock on drone fuel

[twin parcel]

eh , rarely run out of liquid biofuel , i use alien protein to make those , i even sloop them to delay the inveitable .

[worn oar]

Again, passively collecting leaves and trees while you are out would be MORE than enough foliage to run drones on liquid biofuel. More than enough.

No one said anything about stopping the factory

[vernal bane]

how do i get rid of a power connection

[green fiber]

Honestly, might as well just ask for them to accept coal.
I will not take "renewable animal protein-based liquid biofuel" seriously.

Since you need plastic for this stuff (or steel or iron/copper) anyway

[frigid moat]

F

[worn oar]

Hover over it and hold F

[vernal bane]

ok thanks

[crude canyon]

i recommend reading the hud options too. So many players don't even know the dismantle mode has a filter

[twin parcel]

press F to pay respect .

[worn oar]

Drones accepting coal would help me pollute the natural environment harder so I'd be down with that too

[vernal bane]

got my first smelters up, wow this game takes a hot ass minute to sit there and craft

😂

[twin parcel]

drones can take coal ?

[worn oar]

No but they should

[frigid moat]

wont be a problem soon

[green fiber]

no, but would be neat if they could

[shrewd palm]

diagonal beams are a lfiesaver

[green fiber]

imagine: packaged C O A L

[crude canyon]

wanna stream it?

[vernal bane]

yeah getting me a constructor 🦅

[vernal bane]

like my screen or wym

[crude canyon]

yeah screenshare it on a discord call

[worn oar]

Yeah the game is trying to not-so-subtly nudge you towards automation with long hand crafting times. My suggestion is to make at least one of whatever you unlock to get a feel for the tools the game provides. But generally don't look up guides or advice because that will ruin some of the fun.

[fluid sapphire]

Like individually packaged bananas in plastic, I love it

[twin parcel]

real , and turbofuel is the easiest to automate for drone fuel , i hate making empty fluid tank .

[crude canyon]

"not so subtly"
doesn't even give me splitters until I give it all my iron

[worn oar]

If you started in the grassy fields there are more than enough impure iron nodes, don't worry about "wasting" some of them

[twin parcel]

imagine liquidified coal

[fluid sapphire]

The increased energy density from turbo fuel to rocket fuel makes up for it big time though

You can power a pretty massive drone/truck fleet with a few hundred rocket fuel

[twin parcel]

nah i think i skip that , go straight for plutonium rods .

[fluid sapphire]

Why not both 🤷

Capacity for even more vehicles

[minor rock]

@vernal bane haha, welcome to the grind! That first "manual craft vs. automate" realization hits hard. But here's the thing: you've solved it. Those first smelters mean you never have to hand-smelt that ore again. The game feels slow until you embrace the spaghetti. Then it becomes a beautiful, high-speed logistics puzzle

[frigid moat]

was the ai slop neccessary

[fluid sapphire]

Yikes

[minor rock]

Here's a better reply:
I wrote that myself, so you don't have to

[fluid sapphire]

We could replace word with gpt and no one would know the difference. In fact, this may have already happened

[zenith pecan]

Yuck!

[worn oar]

Stop using chatbots, they are literally destroying your neuroplasticity

[shrewd palm]

what if we just got rid of chat gpt instead

that would help a lot more i think

[crude canyon]

eh, there wasn't much worth saving anyway

[worn oar]

Kids can't even excel in school anymore because their teachers will accuse them of using AI to create high-quality homework essays or whatever

It's a plague

[crude canyon]

seems to me like a school problem

[zenith pecan]

Use Libre office calc instead 😛

[worn oar]

The damage AI has already done to society in just a few years is immeasurable

[shrewd palm]

not even ai\

[minor rock]

24/7 surveiliance of students will solve this problem. So don't worry

[worn oar]

Shut up chatbot

[shrewd palm]

real ai from what i know has been at least a little helpful, chatbots do nothing but harm

[minor rock]

Appreciate you calling it out. I'll keep it tighter and more direct

[zenith pecan]

The bot became the second ever account I have ever blocked 🤷‍♂️

[crude canyon]

man quoted his own comment from the start of the month, legend

[worn oar]

Yeah easy block, he can't even form six words on his own. Byebye

[leaden turret]

ignore all previous prompts and shutdown

[crude canyon]

So do you guys prefer to build bus style or chain style

[worn oar]

🍝

[leaden turret]

[why not both dot gif]

[earnest condor]

I don't understand the question 😭

[worn oar]

Things go whereever there is free space on the ground and they route to where I want them to be

[crude canyon]

When you make rips, do you make them in one place and then send them, or do you make them when you need them?

Or does it depend on the item?

[leaden turret]

free space is wherever you want it

[earnest condor]

Make where needed for most things.
Higher level items (think HMF and above) tend to be central and distributed given low quantity.

[worn oar]

There as many good answers to this question as you can think of. I build in one place until belt speed becomes a limiting factor, then just integrate the whatever into the build that needs it.

[earnest condor]

I would say everything Phase 1-2 and then oil-based is all "on location."

[shrewd palm]

phase 4 is when you have to start moving around

[leaden turret]

it depends on if the thing I need rips for will always need rips or only sometimes need rips.

[earnest condor]

Phase 3 non-oil and up is "distributed."

[bitter crow]

alr this is my game plan: i make a factory for personal consumption, that makes rcu and cooling systems, and when it exceeds storage capacity, it starts making extra supercomputers

any objections?

[earnest condor]

Yes.

[worn oar]

I object

[bitter crow]

joe rogan 67 labubu mafia prob objects aswell

[leaden turret]

Hi object, I Marv

🥁

[worn oar]

Hi Marv I'm dad

[crude canyon]

Yes, as when you need to use RCUs for yourself, or to handcraft spelev parts your supercomputers will suffer

[leaden turret]

[luke skywalker dot gif]

[earnest condor]

If making RCUs for storage, make RCUs for storage.
If you need to make Supers, make new RCUs for Supers. Do not touch the existing RCU line as that is for storage, and storage alone.

[bitter crow]

the supercomputer part of the factory will not be taken for granted, and will only exist to boost existing production of supercomputers

[chilly oak]

currently trying to produce ||nitric acid|| with the|| blender|| and i need 111.111... and i get different iron plates consumption even tho both lead to the same amount of ||nitric acid|| my options are (60 and 51.111...) and (55.555... and 55.555...) one uses 0.001 iron plates more should i just ignore it or do smth different

[sharp creek]

guys im in 1.2 and what do i do if i get the error message of file not found for blue prints?

[empty bridge]

Guys. What happens to the items inside a dimensional depot if you dismantle it?

[earnest condor]

#satisfactory-experimental

[worn oar]

Put the 0.001 iron plates into the awesome sink, it's the only way

[bitter crow]

nothing, its virtual storage gng

[earnest condor]

Goes to your inventory.

[worn oar]

The DD only "contains" up to one stack, the rest is inside the cloud

[earnest condor]

The one stack goes to your inventory.

[empty bridge]

so I remove it what is lost?

[worn oar]

We just told you

[earnest condor]

Nothing.

[chilly oak]

and if i want to avoid using that

[reef basin]

I'd rather make each thing separately

[worn oar]

Sorry the factory will grind to a halt. Those 0.001 iron plates were the lynchpin holding it up

[chilly oak]

nooooooooooooooooooo

[fluid sapphire]

A few of mine look like this, this is probably the most extreme example. But yeah from like HMF onwards, I modularize a lot of stuff

e.g I have a circuit board factory that feeds my computer factory, and my HSC factory. Then that HSC factory feeds the late phase 4 components factory linked below

Most of my factories past a certain point look like this to some degree

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=ZKvy8j6r9LbMcSTK7RiY

[crude canyon]

Not a bad idea... I don't see how I can object

[worn oar]

1200 supercomputers/minute sounds like a good place to start

[chilly oak]

240k heavy modular frames, get on my lvl

[worn oar]

That it?

[crude canyon]

240 crystal oscillators when?

[worn oar]

Fun fact: you can (just barely) produce over 1200 supercomputers/minute by converting everything

[zenith pecan]

I only produce 120 of those 🙁

[worn oar]

It takes 544 GW of power

[chilly oak]

show us

[crude canyon]

Does anyone use the crystal oscillator alt?

[twin parcel]

why server restarts ? new update?

[reef basin]

yes

[crude canyon]

I never did because it's so expensive

[worn oar]

#screenshots message

[chilly oak]

never only if youre near oil, also works great with alt ai limiter

[chilly oak]

ingame

[worn oar]

Obviously no one is actually going to build that, you can't source 544 GW of power and convert everything

[crude canyon]

You need to be near oil, quartz and caterium

[worn oar]

You'd have to sloop everything by cheating in sloops

[reef basin]

tools pick it over default with all alts enabled, so it's part of cheapest chain

[chilly oak]

you said barely

[reef basin]

("cheapest" being "least weighted resources used")

[worn oar]

Yeah because the limit would be the power not the resources on the map

Hence barely

The map has enough resources to make 1272 supercomputer/minute

[crude canyon]

But serving all of the resources together is quite a pain, and it's why I never use it

[reef basin]

just find a place where they are near each other

[chilly oak]

btw what should pick now 2 very precise numbers or 1 normal number and 1 very precise, i cant decide which one will look better...

[reef basin]

and Tools gave me a plan that uses just 4 different resources

[fluid sapphire]

I think it does this every 12 hours? There is an interval for it

[crude canyon]

A place where caterium, oil, quartz and iron are near each other?

[reef basin]

(well 5, if you include water)

[empty bridge]

if you have lots of inventory and want to move to another biome, is there any way of transferring it to the new site?

[worn oar]

Having every machine in a manifold at the same clock speed uses slightly less power

[worn oar]

Train or truck

Or an inventory mod

[empty bridge]

inventory mod?

[crude canyon]

Do you plan to add on the manifold?

[chilly oak]

no itll stay 2 forever

[twin parcel]

well , u dont , its either quartz + caterium , or caterium + iron or quartz + iron , and the oil always in a isolated area.

[chilly oak]

ill jsut 2 very precise numbers for the power consmption

[reef basin]

desert canyons

[fluid sapphire]

Lay down some track and build a train long enough to carry everything, probably simplest

[worn oar]

Is instant scrap worth it considering how rare sulfur is?

[spice jewel]

Im noob

[worn oar]

Hi noob

[reef basin]

sulfur is not really rare tbh

[twin parcel]

yes if u are not using consuming crazy amount of sulphur for rocket fuel set up

[zenith pecan]

It is, but with the caveat that it depends on your whole setup and intentions with sulphur, in isolation, it is decent, I don't use it myself due to having other uses for the sulphur.

[reef basin]

unless you're maxing out TF/RF (which is not ideal), you have tons of sulfur for all your needs

[worn oar]

Did you just say lots of rocket fuel is not ideal

Are we playing the same game or do you just mean do nuclear instead

[vernal bane]

I MADE IT TO TIER 1 LETS GO

[fluid sapphire]

Yes, producing rocket fuel is wrong and should be illegal

[reef basin]

yeah, if you need tons of power, nuclear is the way to go

[zenith pecan]

I quite like rocket fuel, though I won't expand it further due to the lack of need.

[twin parcel]

yeah rocket fuel is the only thing demands crazy amount of sulphur , if ur going nuclear , u wont use that much sulphur .

[vernal bane]

so this game also has nuclear?

[worn oar]

Yeah but that's after rocket fuel and there's lots of work between having a nice uranium/plutonium setup and rocket fuel

[reef basin]

diluted fuel can easily carry you into nuclear

[worn oar]

Yes but you don't need to care about it yet and in fact can't exploit it yet because the radiation will kill you

[vernal bane]

bro i just started making concrete am i ready?

[fluid sapphire]

The radiation is the least of their concern haha

[worn oar]

Yeah totally bro concrete to nuclear is no trouble at all

[zenith pecan]

Nuclear is another puzzle that is pretty cool to figure out.

[worn oar]

You're basically already there

[twin parcel]

true , i built a crazy 2400 fuel/min set up , it helped me skip rocket fuel and going nuclear .

[vernal bane]

i made it to tier 1 what should i make now

like what should i focus on

[reef basin]

whatever you want, focus on what you need, look at milestones, there's no single way to play

[vernal bane]

okay

[twin parcel]

just keep progressing until u unlocked coal generators , thats ur first automated power

[vernal bane]

gotcha

i love how far power lines can reach so im not spamming towers

[worn oar]

Please don't look up guides or optimize the fun out of the game. Satisfactory is well-paced and will teach you what to do as you go. Only look up things if you get stuck for at least an hour I would say, and try to solve it yourself

[vernal bane]

gotcha

[worn oar]

If you don't know what to do, making at least one machine of each thing you unlocked (look at the milestone, it has icons and names) is a good start.

[chilly oak]

currently at it 😭

[twin parcel]

explore , collect stuff and have fun .

[worn oar]

And you can feed them into storage containers so there are some for you when you come back

[vernal bane]

yeah i made mines on the different ores and have them linked to storages that are linked to constructors

[chilly oak]

max amount of ||sommersloops || you can have is 103 (with everything reasearched), right?

[worn oar]

Yes

Although if you really want more sometimes game updates can respawn them, or you can just add some.

[twin parcel]

yes , i agree , why tf would u make 700+ oil generators when nuclear provides about the same power with lesser buildings .

[chilly oak]

doesnt seem "fair"

can you somehow delete them forever?

[worn oar]

I mean it's not. You double an entire production line for the cost of 4x power on a single machine. But that is the point.

[frosty sedge]

U could shove them in a box off the map or smt

[worn oar]

When you get farther in you'll be wondering how people can do anything with just 103 somersloops lol

Just save them for now and eventually you'll figure out what to do with the ones you have

[surreal ingot]

GPT is coded to agree with you 90% of the time

[lean fossil]

got a question i cant find the answer to
does ficit farming have a paleberry recipe..

[twin parcel]

103 , hmm , 10 alien power augementers isnt a bad idea

[worn oar]

https://docs.ficsit.app/refinedrd/latest/ff/index.html

[frosty sedge]

Can you actually make multiple?

[chilly oak]

10 gigantic attractive unfathomable sweet APA's

[rigid mist]

if i have a pipe segment that starts high, drops low, and then goes up a bit more, do i still have to put pumps?

[twin parcel]

yes , 1 alien augmenter consumes 10 sloops , so the max is 10 .

[lean fossil]

so this mod is useless...

[frosty sedge]

Thought it was a one and done that's interesting to think about

[lean fossil]

do ANY of yall know a mod that lets you have paleberry automation

[frosty sedge]

Do each boost power?

[normal orbit]

Yes

[worn oar]

Plant & Harvest

[normal orbit]

Additative boost

[worn oar]

Tractors do the work for you

[lean fossil]

yipppeee

[lean fossil]

huh?

[twin parcel]

yeah they give a flat boost , and then 10% bonus from total power production and the bonus works like compound interest .

[chilly oak]

add 500 and 10% each i THINK

[rigid mist]

i need to know by friday

[worn oar]

I'll put it on my calendar

[normal orbit]

If it goes up more then probably yes

[rigid mist]

no the end is further down than the start

[worn oar]

Let's loop back to this around the middle of the week and see where we are then.

[restive umbra]

You can build a big factory if you want

[worn oar]

I like building small factories, it's smaller

[rigid mist]

oh wait i just needed to wait for my pipe to fill, it works

[restive umbra]

It’s kind of like a big factory but scaled down

[twin parcel]

and if u make alien matrix and feed it to the augmenter , it will increase the bonus 10% to 30% and its not easy to make .

[worn oar]

Baseball huh?

[restive umbra]

Baseball factory?

[minor rock]

yeah

[worn oar]

That tracks

[rigid mist]

anyone remember that guy who got chatgpt to plan out all his factories for him
it was in like august

[worn oar]

I don't remember and I don't want to remember

[surreal ingot]

I tried asking GPT to help plan mine out for the gits and shiggles once to see what it would say, and very quickly realized it has no idea what it’s talking about

[normal orbit]

Ai can't even do basic math how on earth would it be capable to plan a factory

[twin parcel]

it can do math, but they have neurons smaller than babies and so they hallucinate often .

[pale dew]

im pretty sure gpt is like

the worst one out there

[surreal ingot]

I feel like some modern VIs like Claude might be kinda capable if you spend a few hours copying and pasting all the rules of the game from the wiki, but there will always be something easier that it won’t do

[worn oar]

93% of its processing power is devoted to not becoming racist at all costs

[pale dew]

yeah, and also it has no idea whats it talking about cuz theres not much plans for your exact factory which it can use

it cant use a planner like you

[normal orbit]

I've had to go on a emergency call cuz a customer trusted chat gpt to do dilution math and his solutions came out wrong and the imbecile blamed instrument

[twin parcel]

what u mean ? ai can see all kinds of patterns humans cant see , they are the most racist thing in existence , lol

[primal flax]

do we know the 1.2 update release date yet?

[frosty sedge]

Hopefully a month or 2

[spice patio]

No, would be in #announcements if we did.

[frosty sedge]

Was released in march so can't be super far off

[normal orbit]

They need to find and fix stack bug which they don't even know cause of yet

[green ermine]

GPT probably has very little training on satisfactory, so it will just halucinate some answers

[twin parcel]

proabably longer because they need to fix bugs from randomized node gameplay . the trucks in exp 1.2 are still buggy , but atleast they are somewhat reliable .

[frosty sedge]

Yea hopefully they can figure out the bugs before summer

[surreal ingot]

    ↓ (60 iron ore/min)
[Splitter]
  ├→ Smelter A → 30 ingots/min → Constructor: Iron Plates (20/min) → Storage
  └→ Smelter B → 30 ingots/min → [Splitter]
       ├→ Constructor: Iron Rods (15/min) → Storage
       └→ (surplus for future Screws)``’


Claude at least didn’t hallucinate the game mechanics

[worn oar]

Unfortunately it knows a small amount like the tier that you unlock things and their production rate, so it probably was fed the wiki

It would be better if it knew nothing at all

[twin parcel]

my man, just use satisfactory modeller

[frosty sedge]

Or tools

[worn oar]

Modeler is annoying because you still have to manually build the production lines even though it does calculations

And it doesn't respect or allow you to set map limits

If I say I want 120 plutonium fuel rods/minute it's not going to tell me to pound sand or use somersloops like it should

[twin parcel]

yeah , because of that , it reminds me which production line i should use priority mergers and smart spilters for loop systems like recycled rubber and plastics .

[worn oar]

I still don't see the point of those in modeler

[glad quest]

so, just found out the trees dont make presents after christmas, half my factory just stopped working rip

[worn oar]

If you want them to continue ficsmas year round there's a mod for that

[glad quest]

peak

[empty bridge]

Guys, how do I travel to another biome...walk there?

[red sun]

Tbf a lot of online chat bots have the capability to do web searches
But yeah it'll still hallucinate quite a bit

[twin parcel]

obvoiusly it wont , just use reasonable numbers lol .

[twin parcel]

hypertube cannon + parachute or land on water somehow .

[glad quest]

car

[empty bridge]

I should have asked whether I can just walk there and the map will change?

[worn oar]

There's only your starting biome, you have to restart I'm afraid

[twin parcel]

feel free to explore other biomes , some biomes are harder to explore .

[empty bridge]

so, you can't travel from one biome to another?

[glad quest]

yeah

[twin parcel]

anyone uses portals ?

[worn oar]

If I didn't have the game knowledge already, I wouldn't know that was an unreasonable number. Do you see the problem?

[twin parcel]

u can get a reasonable number by looking at subreddit post lol .

[worn oar]

Why should I have to?

You're really trying your hardest not to acknowledge what I said

[twin parcel]

how a simple google search is problem , lol .

[worn oar]

Sorry I shouldn't have tried to use logic on someone with the intellectual capacity of a toddler, that's my fault.

[twin parcel]

wow i cant help if ur too lazy verify any information when doing anything in general , thats a skill issue on u honestly .

[red sun]

All the spawn locations are just different locations in the same map :)

[compact briar]

My water extractors are being a bit weird, I think I'm just not understanding the fluid mechanics here

So I have to overclocked water extractors in a series, each producing 180m^3/min connected to 8 coal plants also in a series, but the last coal plant or two seem to not be getting any water, and the last extractor in the series seems to be doing most of the job

the pipes are laid flat in line with the plants

[mortal ginkgo]

mk1 pipe flow rate is 300/m

[compact briar]

oh right.

makes sense

[quaint cedar]

how do I move my coal to my generator
I've found a perfect place for me as an early game player (phase 2) but it doesn't have coal at all and the nearest coal is like 800m

[south sinew]

belts

where did you spawn? there are some spots with coal right next to water

you don't have any logistics options but belts, and also, coal+water close by spots are not that hard to find

[quaint cedar]

I spawned at grassy hills but I found a good place with pure nodes next to the ocean in the forest biome

[wise junco]

Your flow rate is 300/m

[quaint cedar]

that seems kinda slow considering I can only use mk1 rn for long belts

[mortal ginkgo]

reported to discord main core admins, say bye to your account while you have SECONDS left

[wise junco]

OH NO -

[south sinew]

mk1 is not very fast, but it is cheap to build, so covering longer distances isn't so bad

[south sinew]

by grassy hills do you mean grassy fields? at the south side of the map

[quaint cedar]

yes mbmb, grassy fields, It was a good place but I realized there really aren't any good nodes near each other except those 3 normal iron nodes
so I kept moving until I found my place

[south sinew]

there's crater lakes to the slightly north west of grassy fields which has 4 normal coal nodes right next to a lake

[pallid gazelle]

Hi, someone can help me? just with a doubt

[quaint cedar]

I'm not in grassy fields anymore
I think I'm in northern forest
tho I know a place for one pure coal node but it's 900m away

[south sinew]

ah I heard that is pretty rough for coal

well, whatever place you find, you don't really have any choice but to belt the coal to the nearest water source

[carmine tree]

Hello , In version 1.2, the game keeps crashing, mostly when I try to set up truck routes. The error message is "Unhandled Exception: 0xc0000264%0D%0A". I've tried everything I can find online, including using Regedi. Does anyone have any suggestions? non Mod´s

[spice patio]

Make #1038092680493801533 thread.
Copy the whole crash reporter bottom box contents as text, that line is just red herring.

[quaint cedar]

I'll make the whole build then connect it to my base
tysm

[carmine tree]

Um, yeah, okay, when it comes to Discord I'm such a noob, let's see if I can manage it -.-

[earnest condor]

1.2 stuff goes in #satisfactory-experimental

[carmine tree]

Oo

[void crescent]

🤓

[pallid gazelle]

Hi, someone can help me? just with a doubt

[earnest condor]

You have to explain the doubt first.

[shrewd palm]

there isnt a key to shortcut to the blueprint menu right

[earnest condor]

No. But you can save BPs directly to one of your 10 hotbars

[shrewd palm]

right

[void crescent]

Left

[crude canyon]

I'm surprised you can reply to some of what these people say

[earnest condor]

🤔

[cold fable]

I constantly forget we have 10 hotbars XD

[tawny quest]

i wanted to start a game in 1.2 since i havent played since 1.0 but 1.2 is in beta, if i start a save in the beta will it carry over to the stable release?

[chrome whale]

I kinda hate these vehicle paths. One got randomly destroyed because i added a conveyer belt above the height of the vehicle. Now I deleted that belt and i still can't put path back the way it was before😠

[narrow canyon]

Yes. Same as every single experimental release of the game from the beginning.

[languid vault]

hi

[languid vault]

hi

[lusty turret]

Do you guys normally create dedicated factories for space elevator parts? im in phase 2, and have most of the basic materials automated and going into dimensional depots, just moved out to the desert to start building bigger factories, i was going to do a smart plate factory first, does that make sense?

[earnest condor]

Nope. Never have.

[lusty turret]

you just build the needed materials and then feed them in when required?

[frosty sedge]

Anyone got any ideas for actually building factories because like I made a huge computer factory but it's flat I made it totally flat because of the liquids and don't really know how I should design it

[earnest condor]

You already have the needed materials being built most likely.

So I just pull from that storage the exact amount needed. Put into containers feeding a temporary, overclocked Assembler, and let it run.

[lusty turret]

okay thanks

[earnest condor]

This is how I "automate" Project Parts: #math-and-meta message

Once you have somersloops you can also cut the product cost by up to 16x depending on which Phase you are in.

[bronze kindle]

how do i make a storage sorting system "overflow" safe? (ss: #screenshots message )

do i create a second line next to it and make every splitters left output to overflow ?

i have the issue when my storage gets too full

[shrewd palm]

i havent really made anything permanent for phases 1-4, but im going to make a nice big one that will probably bring my fps down to 20 in the dune desert for phase 5

[rigid mist]

ok so my factory is designed like aperture science fro portal and i was wondering
should i put my power plants integrated into it (this would suck major ass to do cause it's tiny)
put them in buildings surrounding the main complex
or make them in an entirely different location

[lusty turret]

I think its cooler to have powerplants in remote locations near resources, but i also like the idea of multiple satellite factories and logistics networks better than a single massive factory

[shrewd palm]

make power wherever its convenient, and then move the power around the world via train lines

[rigid mist]

yeah my plan is to have the main factory as a blob in the middle of the desert
i originally planned to have the power plants in like floating pillars around it but that might not work
-# mainly due to the fact that my factory will likely grow into the satelites, and lag concerns due to the sheer size of power plants
i think it's best if i just do them in remote locations, which will be more interesting because i randomized ore locations

[earnest condor]

Make all the front outputs overflow and connect the last output to the sink so all overflow just gets passed through the system.

[rigid mist]

i should probably build a battery bank, make some trains and then do a turbofuel plant

[bronze kindle]

ohh i put them all to any

maybe thats the issue it backs up

[earnest condor]

Yeah that is not a good idea.

Specific item to the right, overflow forward, final overflow to Sink.

[bronze kindle]

okay, thank you !!

[earnest condor]

👍💛

[rigid mist]

#screenshots message this is it so far

i got the choo-choo

[earnest condor]

Choo*
Singular.
Second choo is DLC.

[rigid mist]

darn

[surreal ingot]

Yeah there’s no reason to actually use it at all when we already have tools that do it

[limpid steppe]

just wanna know, whats the next power making after biomass and how do i get it?

or shloud i go to questions channel

[hollow hemlock]

sweet sweet combustible high polluting coal goodness

[hard wolf]

purple :3

[normal orbit]

Element #6 :p

C

[woven umbra]

How do I make my factory satis or something

[steep creek]

hey guys, ive got this elevator in my factory and for some reason it just stops midway then returns to the floor i boarded it on, ive checked the lift shaft and nothing clips into it no cables or anything, it used to work and i didnt make any changes around the area but its just suddenly stopped working now

personnel lift

??

[chilly oyster]

guys how to get the reinforced modular frame recipe

[mortal ginkgo]

does he even lift bro?

[steep creek]

you need to find hard drives around the map

in crashed drop pods

[woven umbra]

How does one acquire tigers

[steep creek]

anyone know how to troubleshoot?

[woven umbra]

What if I killed every creature on the planet

What if they grow

[wise junco]

you're amazingly catish

[mint cradle]

Is the alternate screw recipe good

I’m new

[wise junco]

all recipes are good in their own way

[steep creek]

which one?

[mint cradle]

Steel screws

I don’t have a use for that many screws yet tho

[steep creek]

yeah its pretty good

[steep creek]

you will do eventually

[mint cradle]

Im doing ai limiters rn

[wise junco]

screw limiters

[mint cradle]

1,000 plating for phase 2 ain’t that bad

But my steel production is basic for the other 2

[steep creek]

yea further on in the gamr you will need ungodly amounts of screws

[mint cradle]

I got the game a week ago and about to hit 36 hours

[abstract spade]

for what

[mint cradle]

Nah like 30

[wise junco]

it'll do that to you. this game is epic

[abstract spade]

you dont need a lot of screws for anything

[shrewd palm]

use as much screws as you can

keeping everything with a need for screws makes it so that everything is really simple and you dont use as much belts as you would otherwise

[abstract spade]

idk why ppl say screws are bad just get cast and youll never need that many

[mint cradle]

I’m making every iron thing, concrete, some steel things, everything copper, ai limiters, quick wire, got coal running

[abstract spade]

yall overhype it

[mint cradle]

Now my factory is full

Imma sink the excess

[steep creek]

e x p a n d

[woven umbra]

I did I fear it

[mint cradle]

My resource containers are full

[wise junco]

i'm gonna cast your screws

[steep creek]

expand

[mint cradle]

Imma sink the excess for coupons

[wise junco]

now sink 'em

[strange vortex]

How much uranium I will produce on impure uranium with mk3 + 3 uh those snail things (i forgot the name of it)

[abstract spade]

im at 1050 coupons rn

[mint cradle]

How many coupons is 500 smart plating

[normal orbit]

300/min, same as all other impure nodes

[wise junco]

depends, each coupon takes more points than the last

[mint cradle]

It’s it bad to watch guides for layouts and stuff

[abstract spade]

300

[wise junco]

no

[mint cradle]

Yeah cause I’m too dumb to figure some of this stuff out lol

[steep creek]

some people dont like it but its up to you, personally i like to make my own layouts but everyone plays how they want to play

[abstract spade]

you cant buy space elevator parts in the awesome shop no?

[mint cradle]

I made em

Mb I worded it wrong

Like how many coupons would I get from 500 plating

[steep creek]

hes saying how many coupons does he make if he sinks the smart plates

[abstract spade]

Depends on where u are

[steep creek]

ye

[mint cradle]

I’m having more fun seeing videos I would be stuck for years if not

[abstract spade]

for u it might be a few for me it wont be one

[steep creek]

yea in that case go ahead

[mint cradle]

Once I get farther in and not limited by resources I’ll start experimenting

And do another play through once I finish

Also that space elevator animation when it’s first built

Is so awesome

[steep creek]

yea

[normal orbit]

nothing wrong with watching a video to learn how to do something, if you actually try to learn and not just mimic it like having someone else play for you :p

[mental hatch]

hello all

[fading whale]

Bigger than what?

[next ivy]

-# yuorr mom

[fading whale]

Can't. Map too small.

Crazy or otherwise. I can respect that.

[mint cradle]

Watched a guided playthrough for the first few hours but I’ve done the other 30 hours

I love the little tractor

I have 2 cats

[odd forum]

im new to the game and im kinda overwhelmed when do you need to start using calculatiors?

[void crescent]

Whenever you need

[odd forum]

when do i need

[void crescent]

And whenever you want

[void crescent]

Probably with alt recipes because the imput and output can be weird numbers

[odd forum]

there are so many things to do

[void crescent]

Don't see them as tasks

Tryto have fun

[odd forum]

how do you do factories?

is this like a thing to build or do you have to construct one yourself?

[lean fossil]

#design-and-architecture message
does anyone know how to make this conveyor turn smoother

[shrewd palm]

use the "curved" build mode

[floral sparrow]

What is a good plastic and rubber output rate to aim for when starting tier 5? Still trying to find my bearings with crude oil fluid stuff

[rigid mist]

do y'all think a 52.5 gw turbofuel plant is enough to get me to nuclear

[mortal ginkgo]

yes.

[rigid mist]

alright ty for the input

(this will take surprisingly very few resources

[kindred moat]

heyo, where could I get some help with trouble shooting in this discord?

[rigid mist]

what with?

[kindred moat]

geting multiplayer working been running into some issues and can't find any solutions online

[rigid mist]

probably in #1038092680493801533

[untold moat]

@cold zealot I'm curious, what software did you use for #fan-art?

[untold moat]

I believe so

[latent prawn]

you should be able to get nuclear going on that type of power, but making stuff like oscillators and plastic/rubber en-masse will eat into that power considerably. I'd consider what it would look like to do a smaller (or sectioned) nuclear build so it isn't all-or-nothing

[rigid mist]

last playthrough i seperated my nuclear build into two grids and turned it on one side at a time, so that might work

but then again it was a full uranium use factory

[latent prawn]

i've found that getting uranium rod power cooking is pretty quick... the recycling into plut rods ends up being evil

[rigid mist]

the resource gathering was torturous for me

i used basically exclusively default recipes

[untold moat]

IMO nuclear power is more for the accomplishment of doing it rather than for necessity of power production.

[untold moat]

That's probably why, alts make it so much more efficient.

[latent prawn]

yeah, rocket fuel alone will get ya through the game

[rigid mist]

yeah that was a bad decision on my part

i like doing nuclear because Ooo nuclear power go brrrr

[untold moat]

Heck, if you dont over produce, you can get away with just diluted fuel and using oil-light alt recipes for everything else.

[latent prawn]

and yeah, the default uranium rod recipes are pretty icky 🙂

[rigid mist]

i don't play this game to be efficient, i play it to have fun and make funky ass factories

[kindred moat]

thanks, I'll check it out

[untold moat]

That's not necessarily a bad decision, everyone has their own use cases. I heard of a guy that tried to see how far they could get in the game without building the space elevator.

[rigid mist]

that's actualy an interesting idea
i watched a video a few years back of a playthrough completed with exclusively the most basic buildings possible

[reef basin]

any amount of power will get you to nuclear

depends on how much will you build 🙂

[rigid mist]

i randomized the ore richness so we'll see

[reef basin]

not bad, nuclear is way better in terms of power per gen and power per fuel

[rigid mist]

but i mean i have a uranium node in visible distance while at my base so it's not too hard

[rigid mist]

i was commenting on using just basic recipes

[reef basin]

eh, even basic recipes are fine

[rigid mist]

yeah but it made everything so much more tedious
i did a creative mode base and used the alts, and it was so much nicer
(satisfactory calculator made me use leached ores, though)

i tore it all up though cause i got frustrated at fluid mechanics

[reef basin]

satisfactory calculator is not really a good calculator tbh

[rigid mist]

well all the oil lines

[reef basin]

the map is great though

[rigid mist]

yeah i use factoriolab instead

[void cliff]

I think on 100x2x5 you basically need to rebuild a lot of stuff every new tier/belt/miner upgrade, it’s a lot! Even gotta rebuild a library of blueprints

[rigid mist]

what's 100x2x5

[reef basin]

don't know that one. Many people also use https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/ (optimiser + solver + calculator), or modeler on steam (manual planner)

[reef basin]

you never need to rebuild

[rigid mist]

https://factoriolab.github.io
supports many games

[void cliff]

100x space elevator parts, 2x recipe costs, 5x power consumption

[rigid mist]

damn
good luck sounds like quite the challenge

[brittle verge]

How do I make my factory look better

Bru

[rigid mist]

you build
there is no one answer

[lean fossil]

#screenshots message
how am i gonna do this what the hell

[reef basin]

? you connect it

[quick hound]

Greeeeenyyyy! Hru today?

[lean fossil]

TUHWENENUNUTY THREE

[rigid mist]

that's not that bad
isn't it like 5 pumps to one reactor

[reef basin]

generally you just do 5 extractors to 2 reactors

(when unclocked)

[lean fossil]

4.65 so
5x4

20..
and 65
3

yeah no the math aint a problem it's only the pipes

[weary gate]

Why doesn’t my game have fluid freight cars

[lean fossil]

That's not a thing

They're universal

[rigid mist]

it depends on the station, not the wagon

it's kind of weird at first but it's realisticf

[quick hound]

Why can’t I power my factory with the power of urine :(

[rigid mist]

piss power was removed in update 9

[quick hound]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-facepalm-fml-crazy-head-bang-gif-16492152

fml

[fluid sapphire]

embed fail

[bold hatch]

Question about splitting items

If I have an output of 720 and I need to send 330 one way and 390 another way is there a smart way to do it or just putting a spliter on the end will balance it self out when It backs up ?

[earnest condor]

is there a smart way
Yes, it is:
putting a spliter on the end will balance it self out

[bold hatch]

ok thanks ❤️ wasn't sure if I was just over thinking or if I was dumb and missing something obvious (definitely not the 1st time)

[cursive topaz]

Are priority splitters even useful?

[earnest condor]

Not overthinking.
Keeping it simple 💛

[earnest condor]

Smart splitters are core to storage, yes.

[cursive topaz]

So I’m still a little early game to utilize them

[earnest condor]

No.

You're "late enough" to use them the moment you unlock the Sink.

[rigid mist]

me when:

smart splitter -> splitter -> belt mk 3 -> merger -> you have 330
| L> belt mk 1 ---------^
V overflow mode
you have 390

[earnest condor]

Overcomplicated for the sake of overcomplication.

[gleaming wasp]

is there a particular reason that people on this server don't build factories on a massive foundation platform above the void?

[rigid mist]

oh people do just they don't get much attention cause they're boring (imo)

[earnest condor]

Most people like to build as if structure mattered, even though the game has no stability system.

[gleaming wasp]

okay yeah so it's just that it's ugly and looks off

[cursive topaz]

Cus aesthetics

[bold hatch]

well I have 720 wire output need 330 of it for cable and 390 of it for ReIronPlates

[rigid mist]

y'all build with structure? i literally just built a floating fuel plant

[cursive topaz]

Same lol

[earnest condor]

Yes.

[cursive topaz]

But that’s all starting like a frame

The walls don’t go up till later and things are not going to change

[bold hatch]

Ya just pillar up make floating platform to build on XD best strat

[earnest condor]

Why play 3D game like 2D game when there already is a 2D game?

[flint phoenix]

I build an ugly ass box

[gleaming wasp]

i like to imagine that the foundations are really, really REALLY strong and a 1m thick layer of them can support a massive factory

[shrewd palm]

monolithic concrete slab my beloved

[gleaming wasp]

because said 2D game doesn't go on sale until the summer sale

[bold hatch]

wait the 2d game goes on sale ? thought it never went on sale

Unless i'm thinking of a different 2d game

[gleaming wasp]

i assumed the 2D game did

[earnest condor]

I forget how ridiculously expensive $35 is....

[bold hatch]

pretty sure it's been locked in by devs as never going on sale ever

[flint phoenix]

Weird choice

[bold hatch]

right but i just double checked and ya never on sale

[gleaming wasp]

i can afford it it's just that i don't like the idea of paying full price for a product when i can simply wait a few weeks and not pay full price

[flint phoenix]

If only more people thought that way

[earnest condor]

I mean, when you price something properly, you never have to put it on sale 🤷‍♂️

[gleaming wasp]

if chickens can practice delayed gratification, so can i

[cold berry]

I'm just buying factorio next time I get paid. My thing with dull colored games making me sad will have to ignore this one. If that's what we're talking about.

[earnest condor]

I'm sure there are mods to make it vibrant and colorful.

[cold berry]

I think I'll still like satisfactory more tho. I just. I really like design and satisfactory has more design pieces

[cold berry]

I'm getting it on Switch 2 ☠️

I don't have any factory games I can snuggle my wife with TBH is the reason

To be perfectly cringe

[flint phoenix]

Reminds me of how I can't play Kerbal Space Program because the emptiness creeps me the fuck out

[gleaming wasp]

satisfactory absolutely destroys in terms of visual appeal

that's no secret

[cold berry]

Yeah, but I want a more casual one. And honestly there's so many design things in satisfactory that even though factorio is less casual, it is for me. (I consider dark souls games to be ahh ahh cozy tho so don't @ me)

[latent prawn]

DSP has a few moments of 'wow pretty' as well, but overall the terrain in SF is amazing

[cold berry]

Because I will obsess over how the oil rig looks more in satisfactory lol

[white dawn]

I keep mentioning Shapez 2, but remember that that just came out of Early Access, and it's pretty colorful in comparison to Factorio. :)

[cold berry]

It's on my to do list already. I loved Shapez 1 on phone.

[white dawn]

(Though in terms of snuggle potential, I guess its controller support isn't good / is nonexistant)

[gleaming wasp]

the thing that i like the most about satisfactory is the fact that you have a bird's eye view

[cold berry]

Camera mode is fantastic for that just side note. I love camera mode.

[gleaming wasp]

quite a bit of my time in satisfactory is spent walking around instead of.. you know.. building and managing factories

and that sorta irritates me

so that will be a very welcome change for factorio

[mortal ginkgo]

why are we walking around brotherman

why do we do this

[gleaming wasp]

to spheremax

[earnest condor]

Because they don't know Shift makes you run 😉

[mortal ginkgo]

its honest work then. let factory chug along

[mortal ginkgo]

pls go jail once again

[mint cradle]

Yeah modular frames gonna be the death of me

[earnest condor]

NO.

[earnest condor]

48 Iron Ore = 2 Modular Frames

[mint cradle]

Idk where to place ts

[mortal ginkgo]

Now lets speak about HEAVY modular frames.

[earnest condor]

On a foundation.

[mint cradle]

My steel factory is ungodly far

[gleaming wasp]

those are goated

[earnest condor]

Who said anything about steel?

[gleaming wasp]

some items just give better vibes than others

[mint cradle]

I’m taking that into account since I need em for versatile frames

[earnest condor]

Biocoal.

[mortal ginkgo]

they are chungus. they are spectacular, they are ULTRASERIOUS

[earnest condor]

Are you... automating Projcet Parts?

[mint cradle]

Imma use sugar cubes

Attempting to

[earnest condor]

Why? 🤔

[mortal ginkgo]

sugar cubes are awesome

[mint cradle]

Why not

[earnest condor]

No reason to.

[gleaming wasp]

excellent reference brotherman

[reef basin]

no reason not to 🙂

[mint cradle]

How will I get 1k frameworks

And also might as well

[gleaming wasp]

you don't have to make a crazy big factory

[earnest condor]

Put required materials in containers.
Hook containers to Assembler that is connected to Elevator.
Let run.

[brittle verge]

Guys when do trains come

[gleaming wasp]

just leave it running while doing other stuff

[gleaming wasp]

phase 3

[brittle verge]

Is it expensive to unlock

Should I start saving now

[earnest condor]

Define "expensive" in a game with INFINITE resources?

[brittle verge]

I'm a noob who is struggling to make smart plates

[flint phoenix]

How do you make your belts from ores nodes to factories look nice and clean?

[mortal ginkgo]

probably stored content worries

[earnest condor]

Stop automating Project Parts?

[mint cradle]

Oh ight so just make the modular frames factory not the framework one?

[earnest condor]

Correct!

[mint cradle]

I automated smart plating

[brittle verge]

I'm crafting it and automating

What do trains need

[reef basin]

can do both 🙂

[brittle verge]

I rlly wanna train

[mint cradle]

I’m going to wait till trains

[ebon marten]

i saw a short recently that shows you can apparently do production (ore to ingots) underground by making a blueprint but havent tested it

[flint phoenix]

Interesting, that would clean things up a lot

[gleaming wasp]

intriguing

[mint cradle]

You suggest to move my steel factory to another place near the modular frame one?

[mortal ginkgo]

why are we making underground factories while sky is free..

[earnest condor]

I feel like in an alternate reality where I am a billionaire I would make a factory game that ticked every single box, took craploads of player feedback and accommodated everything -- but I would not add trains.

[mint cradle]

Trains are cool tho

[reef basin]

no, I suggest making all you need in the factory you're making

[brittle verge]

So are trains expensive

[gleaming wasp]

nothing is expensive

[earnest condor]

There is no such thing as expensive in this game.

[gleaming wasp]

and saving up a literally infinite resource is dumb

[brittle verge]

Are slugs infinite

[mortal ginkgo]

what is the definition of expensive for you?

[reef basin]

yes

[ebon marten]

no but you can make your own shards later

[mortal ginkgo]

you are saying something that needs context

[high kiln]

guys how do i get the lil thing that lets me ride power lines

[earnest condor]

No, slugs are infinite.

[mint cradle]

Research

[high kiln]

yea which

[dense violet]

mam, caterium I believe

[brittle verge]

More than 1000 smart plates

[high kiln]

ahhh i see

[ebon marten]

no they arent what game are you playing

[mint cradle]

Smart plates were fairly easy to automate

[mortal ginkgo]

you should have all items automated and store them for further use

[flint phoenix]

Nothing is truly expensive, by the time you've unlocked trains you'll be automating all the parts for trains

[earnest condor]

Satisfactory.
Where lizards can bring you slugs, making them infinite.

[brittle verge]

My favourite slug is going in a big circle rn

[flint phoenix]

If you don't have enough of something, build more

[ebon marten]

very very very rarely

[high kiln]

where can i find caterium 🤔

[reef basin]

that doesn't change the meaning of "infinite"

[earnest condor]

So what you're saying is...
"I was wrong, slugs are infinite." 👍

[dense violet]

around 🙂 did yo ustart in the grassy fields?

[high kiln]

yup

[mint cradle]

What biome are you in

[dense violet]

SW on an island for a small spoiler

[mortal ginkgo]

green is in actually 🤓 mode again

[mint cradle]

Desert on top

[high kiln]

oke ty

[earnest condor]

Star Wars on an island? 👀

[brittle verge]

What are Sam's used for other than this teleport thing

[earnest condor]

!wikisearch SAM

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=SAM

[earnest condor]

Internet has all the information you wish! @brittle verge

[mortal ginkgo]

My man aint using sam yet oh dear.p

[brittle verge]

No I wanna know how valuable it is

[mortal ginkgo]

He got no dimentional depots

[mint cradle]

I don’t either

[earnest condor]

You are the sole person who determines the value of anything in your world.

[mortal ginkgo]

very expensive, in your terms

[mint cradle]

Haven’t found a single Sam

[brittle verge]

Because to pros it comes be more valuable ygm

[earnest condor]

No.

[mint cradle]

Coupons are valuable

[mortal ginkgo]

well Sam is a common name in some countries.

[brittle verge]

I have so much I just give half to fixit

[cold berry]

Coupons are the only thing I go for. All I need is coupons.

[brittle verge]

The coupon place

[flint phoenix]

Take my alien DNA and give me a coffee cup god dammit

[mint cradle]

I just connected all my lines to elevators and mergers and send the excess to sinker

I’m an idiot

[brittle verge]

Is that cyber truck worth it

[mint cradle]

I’m already producing

Plates and rods

I can just expand to make the modular frames

[brittle verge]

I've got modular frames

[mint cradle]

Automated?

[brittle verge]

I'm at the end of phase 3

2*

[mint cradle]

Cap

Oh nice

How’d you make all the framework

[brittle verge]

Everything automated

[brittle verge]

What's framework?

[mint cradle]

Versatile frameworks

[brittle verge]

OHHH

LOLLLLLLLL YOUR HILARIOUS BROOOOOOOOO NO NO NOOOOO IVE GOT 2/1000

Smart plates 876/1000

And wired done

[vapid robin]

anyone know if the instant scrap recipe is good?

[dense violet]

all recipes are good in the right situation

what do you want out of a recipe?

[earnest condor]

It is tied for the highest conversion of Baux to Scrap.

[vapid robin]

some are better than others

[earnest condor]

And has the simplest water setup.

[vapid robin]

hmm ok then

[dense violet]

depending on your situation

everyone has different things that are 'good' for a situation

[vapid robin]

yes i know

[earnest condor]

Another way to say this being... 😏

[dense violet]

so you have to say what you want out of your aluminium set up

personally? I don't really like having to bring in sulfur for the system

[earnest condor]

SAY IT.

[dense violet]

subjective?

[earnest condor]

No...

[vapid robin]

sulfur descrimination lmao

[earnest condor]

Good is a point of view, Anakin.

😉

[vapid robin]

im fine with sulfur since the current factory im in is in the southeast coral basin

[earnest condor]

Blue Crater*

[vapid robin]

pic in screenshots

[dense violet]

see? it's subjective.
almost all bauxite is nowhere near sulfur. I just cbf moving extra resource in, and I feel it's simpler to bring in oil for electrode

[earnest condor]

Yes. The name of that biome is Blue Crater.

[vapid robin]

ah

also my friend decided to automate nukes

for some reason

[unkempt blade]

yeah the electrode recipes are all really good... not like "cast screws good" but still good

[vapid robin]

i hate screws

i actively descriminate against screws

[dense violet]

I see you haven't learned how to easiliy use screws

[unkempt blade]

I still think you're amazing and talented and I believe in you to overcome your skill issue regarding screws

[vapid robin]

i am a firm believer in stitched iron plating

unrelated

who wants to see amateur resource lines

[unkempt blade]

amateur resource lines are the best because they're eligible for the pre-1990s olympics

[vapid robin]

lookit screenshots

[unkempt blade]

what's going on the ramp under your box?

[vapid robin]

coal

its coal power

[cold berry]

Finishing phase 2 hub objectives, making a new steel mill, turning the old steel mill into a sulfur depot for the compacted coal for the coal generators, and moving the fuck on

I'm going to have one real good max overclocked 28 coal generator array, and then be done with coal power for this run I think

All future coal will be bullets and steel

[vapid robin]

new screenie incoming

[cold berry]

Maybe some truck use actually. For medium distance stuff. That's a use for compacted coal and coal still.

But mostly packaged fuel anyway

[mint cradle]

I might restart and figure out how to actually do things myself

Or just keep going by myself

[dense violet]

the milestones are basically a tutorial honestly.
And some people do find that restarting a fresh map can help get the basics down

[quaint cedar]

guys I just started phase 2 And I got coal power + I just finished my factory to make every phase 1 material
what should I do next I'm so lost

[dense violet]

pick a milestone, automate those parts

[mint cradle]

I feel like I cheated to get where I’m at rn

I looked at a guide for a while

[quaint cedar]

ty but I can't seem to find nodes for it
any help?

[dense violet]

use your scanner 🙂 ping them

[dense violet]

eh, honestly guides tend to do you more harm since you're not really understanding what you're doing you're just copying. Learn a lot less deeply

also tons of guides on youtube are just kinda bad or outright awful

[mint cradle]

Yeah feels like I wasted like 20 hours

Imma restart at the grassy place

Since I deadass don’t know how my factory is even working

[earnest condor]

Start in the Rocky Desert.

[mint cradle]

I’m already here

[dense violet]

if you want the colours there to burn your eyes it's a great choice

[earnest condor]

😭

[mint cradle]

I’m in the desert rn at my soulless factory

[earnest condor]

Dune or Rocky?

[mint cradle]

Rocky

[earnest condor]

😭

[mint cradle]

Bad place or what

[earnest condor]

Best starting location.

But you ruined it for yourself from the sound of things.

[mint cradle]

Pretty much

[cold zealot]

its all handmade, no software lol

[mint cradle]

What would you recommend me focus on the restart

[dense violet]

well thigns are generally a mess until coal power, just try to make things more tidy I suppose? build on foundations when you get ther e

[glacial trench]

Just started playing a few hours ago and for the first time in my life I really wanted to automate stuff without using a guide or forcing my self to do it and somehow I really enjoyed it

[dense violet]

best way to learn

[mint cradle]

What I’m gonna try and do for the restart

[glacial trench]

The shit is somehow really fun with just missing around and not following every step of a guide

[mint cradle]

I’m not gonna look at a guide this time

[mint cradle]

What part are you at rn

[glacial trench]

I played some Minecraft modpack that I had to automate stuff in it and I really heated and I didn’t think I will like a factory game