satisfactory

[reef basin]

We can actually reply there

[thick cave]

Will do

#1496906786202976276

[untold grove]

Okay... I was hoping someone would have some top of the mind tips, I guess. Sigh

[visual bloom]

can somebody tell me what i'm doing wrong in #screenshots ?

i'm genuinely trying my best to figure this game out 😭

[coarse shadow]

its my second time now with drones, how do i build a closed nitrogen gas loop?

[placid stirrup]

I would use Satisfactory Tools, the others seem confusing

[simple pebble]

So, there's a few approaches to this. How many places are you sending the nitrogen to?

[coarse shadow]

currently only one

[simple pebble]

The simplest option, if it's one destination for the nitrogen, is this:

Nitrogen Well -> Packager -> Storage Container -> Sending Drone Port

Receiving Drone Port -> Storage Container -> Unpackager -> Send empty tanks to Storage Container -> back to Receiving Drone Port

Then, at Sending Drone Port, you can have the empty tanks go to a storage container, and then to the packagers.

Storage containers are really helpful here as a buffer. Because drone port have incoming and outgoing cargo separated, you can have full and empty tags go through the same ports.

[visual bloom]

it's always in decimals though, it's "maximize" never made sense to me

[reef basin]

Decimals depends on your choices of numbers (and are completely normal)

Maximise makes most you can from givem resources, without any optimisation (recommended to switch to items/min)

[placid stirrup]

I set the 'bottleneck' resource (whichever is going to drive my max output) to the value I want to provide when using maximum.

E.g. if there's only 600 quartz/min in the area I plan to build the factory, I set it to that in Tools

[simple pebble]

BUT, if you have multiple destinations from the nitrogen source, you either need to split packaged nitrogen to multiple 1-to-1 pairs, or you can have dedicated full tank and empty tank nitrogen ports on each side.

[static igloo]

Gna sound stupid but dose like water and nitrogen run out?

[gleaming wasp]

no

all resources except power slugs (not shards), mercer spheres and somersloops are infinite

oh also wood and leaves are finite i think

[normal orbit]

wood/leaves and mycelia is finite

[reef basin]

Or just two groups of packagers

[ornate saffron]

yes, there is a limited amount of nodes. BUT the nodes themself will run forever

water extractors are limited by the space the use up.

[normal orbit]

functionally inifnite tho

[cold berry]

Could you beat the game with one smelter for every resource? Like, that would take forever but be technically possible. I wanna know how long

But math on that sounds annoying lol

[simple pebble]

Yeah, true, that's much tidier

[cold berry]

Where's someone with a 1 hour YouTube essay on minimal effort satisfactory :p

[normal orbit]

yes, you could beat game using just one of each

[gleaming wasp]

pretty sure the finite amount is >10,000,000,000 m³/min and you're going to run out of all the other resources LONG before having to worry about that

[abstract heron]

Sloop it and overclocking it

[cold berry]

Still seems like it'd take forever lol

That fast forward mod. Wait. I could....

[simple pebble]

Just watch a 2x/5x/100x run, that's basically the same thing

[cold berry]

Hmmm

[gleaming wasp]

i wonder if you can beat the game only with the resources that are provided at crash sites

[cold berry]

Eh, I'm doing 5x and not finding it too grindy or annoying personally. But 100x seems like a slog from the outside.

[static igloo]

Ty

[cold berry]

Unless you're multiplayer and you're all good players.

[simple pebble]

5x which, cause those three compound each other dramatically

[cold berry]

Space parts I mean

I'm never doing multiplier for parts cost. Sounds unfun to me personally

But I'm glad it's there for crazies

[simple pebble]

yeah. Doing 1.25x in a multiplayer world and even that is painful

feels fair at least, but oof

[gleaming wasp]

are the foundations 4x4m or 6x6m?

[normal orbit]

8x8

[simple pebble]

5x elevator parts is kinda nice, at least

[normal orbit]

or 8x4 for half

[unkempt blade]

I feel like the elevator part multiplier would play better if you were unlocking the new parts earlier in a phase. Having the research be backloaded in the phase + increasing cost just feels like a recipe for big waits at higher numbers

[gleaming wasp]

is that in length x width or width x length?

[normal orbit]

...does it matter?

[ornate saffron]

in real world Logistics Companies prefer legnth x width

[gleaming wasp]

okay so it's 8 metres long and 8 metres wide

got it, thanks

[unkempt blade]

I mean maybe, it could also be 8 meters wide and 8 meters long

[normal orbit]

or 8000mm wide and 8000mm long

[gleaming wasp]

oh yeah you're right

i just really don't want a wonky factory

so i gotta make sure all the measurements are right

[shy temple]

Random thought for my nuclears. can raw uranium ore be sunk?

[normal orbit]

avoid grip steel and ficsite foundations then :p

[shy temple]

or only processed fuel rods?

[ornate saffron]

yes

[gleaming wasp]

"grip steel"? ??

[unkempt blade]

I actually put up miners straight into sinks for uranium when I run into it early-ish game

[ornate saffron]

in the Nuclear chain you can sink
Uranium
Encased Uranium
Uranium rods
Plutonium rods.

There is no other sink options

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message theres gaps with the half foundations :p

[shy temple]

I was pondering how to do my nuclear setup because I am going to be running my nuke trains. But I want to make sure the train always empties. So gotta sink anything that stays in station was the plan.

Vs a train running with its cargo full

[unkempt blade]

that's just peak ficsit craftsmanship, nothing to see here

[shy temple]

I also made a significant design error on my aluminium production that I have to ponder. My aluminium water byproduct has a trap causing the system to waste water jam...

[gleaming wasp]

that's awful

[placid stirrup]

ISC buffers with a higher capacity belt than required and an overflow splitter should do the trick for that

[shy temple]

Yup, that is my plan too! 🙂 I just pondered if it was sinkable. I don't know why I thought it might not be

But tonight I gotta figure out how to fix the water. I might just need to build a water trap into the processing so it can have an overflow void, a water hammer bump so to speak.

[ornate saffron]

for my nuclear i built the reactors over water spacing them so i can fit three water extractors Directly under each Reactor. Then those three extractors fed the reactor above

[shy temple]

Sorry, meant water in my aluminium! was flip flopping in two talks XD

[placid stirrup]

There's a diagram explaining the most robust solution for the water loop in the server somewhere. Involves isolating byproduct and fresh

[shy temple]

I was having to empty the pipes because it jammed up and couldn't figure out why it was jamming since the system was closed and balanced and yet was fully filling and jammed.

Cause a line went too low, so machine intake was filling last. Result is that it would jam with no space for the alumina scrap processing to drain

[ornate saffron]

ah, gotcha. You can use the output water for cement that you need for your encased cells

[shy temple]

I mean.. I could... but not with my setup. just running the closed loop

[zenith pecan]

My aluminium setup separates fresh & wastewater completely.

[shy temple]

I merge for the bauxite.

[ornate saffron]

same. the waste water feeds half the system fresh water the other half

[shy temple]

So got the 180 per bauxite in pairs. Two pumps plus the 120 output should equal the 360

[zenith pecan]

My wastewater runs two of three refineries per group, fresh water is only one of three.

[shy temple]

Welp, that woulda been the obvious way to do it ^.^

Brain never saw those numbers, I was too focused on 480 number, whoops.

Yeah, if I had a third setup and brought in more bauxite, that would be 360 waste water meaning two plants and four stay fresh. Hmm....

My brain short mostly was for some reason thinking that a water tank pushed water upwards. I was trying something visually 'cool' that backfired by creating a water trap.

So now just a matter of removing that trap without breaking the system. I think I got an idea though, when I get back into game will need to play. I do like the system overall and cannot wait to graphically finish off the station visually.

Essentially I have a mega factory that pumps out all three finished goods of casings, plates, and raw ingots. I know I could have just done ingots, but gotta have a bit of fun!

[ornate saffron]

exactly Personally I prefer processing a entire Baxite node and producing everythign as ingots then ship the ingots to where they are needed. BUT if you are having fun do it anyway that supports fun

[shy temple]

Exactly. I wanted to run one of the bigger trains as a main train out of the plant. Just to have a six car push pull train all chrome! 😄

[zenith pecan]

I use a lot of belts for aluminium ingots.

[shy temple]

A friend and I were discussing a megatrain for dumping trash. Like the sushi train, but sushi straight into stations for dumping waste.

Essentially the idea is that my 'sink' would be out in the middle of nowhere. and a train hauls it out. Then I just add a new car as required if they are filling up. And a massive train that hauls one of everything too. Just for the scale. But imagine the computer won't like that.

[hollow mountain]

is it even worth it to automate cooling system? i dont see any use outside of unlocking milestone

[zenith pecan]

Turbo motors.

[hollow mountain]

oh yeah obviously

[zenith pecan]

Also to build converters, particle accelerators & encoders.

[fluid sapphire]

so plenty of uses

cant remotely name train stations, can i?

doesnt look like it

[thick cave]

Chat why does my grid keep struggling even with coal and emergency biomass

[violet brook]

Is there a way I can have separaters separate different kinds of resources on one belt?

[violet brook]

I think you need to find that out yourself by looking at the stats.

[fluid sapphire]

"struggling" is a bit vague, if you want a more detailed analysis maybe #1038092680493801533

[ornate saffron]

ya, Smart Splitters and programable splitters

they are researched in the mam

[violet brook]

Although not really obtainable in early game?

[thick cave]

no like, power will be stable then like 5 deconds later kaput

[violet brook]

(making a biomass plant and am trying to separate wood and leaves).

[ornate saffron]

they are

[ornate saffron]

you can hammer out much of the MaM research early

[fluid sapphire]

smart splitters you can get pretty early

[ornate saffron]

personally for biomass i Just have multiple drop off locations.

storage for wood
Storage for Leaves
storage for Mycila

each feeds a constructer making biomass. those merge to a conctructor making hard biomass

[violet brook]

I think I got this advice earlier but I shouldn't immediately craft my early slugs into power shards right?

[reef basin]

you can

[normal orbit]

there is an advantage to hold off, but not game breaking

[fluid sapphire]

you can get more shards out of your slugs if you look into the alien tech research tree, right hand side

[violet brook]

So just don't grab all the naturally spawning slugs off the map. The couple around my spawn are fine to turn into batteries.

[fluid sapphire]

you can collect them and store them

[ornate saffron]

*power shards

batteries are a different thing in game

[leaden turret]

separate from power storage, also 😛

[clear ivy]

do fluid buffers provide any headlift?

im wondering if i can stack them

[fluid sapphire]

what are pumps for 😄

[clear ivy]

but do they provide headlift

[reef basin]

you shouldn't use fluid buffers

[placid stirrup]

It should say in the building itself, should be 10m like all other machines. But buffers have somewhat hidden mechanics that can mess your logistics up

[normal orbit]

none at all

[clear ivy]

so you can't stack them to make an unpowered upwards fluid transfer

[placid stirrup]

That would destroy your flow anyways

[fluid sapphire]

why wouldnt you use the tool that literally exists to solve headlift problems?

[restive meteor]

I am early in the game, just got containers and conveyer belts. I have connected containers to the smelter and the constructor. However the are not pulling the right resources from the container, ie if the smelter is set to create iron ingots and it starts pulling copper ingots and this blocks up the machine. I am missing sommething or is there a later solution and for now I should just keep one type of material in a container?

[clear ivy]

cause i don't want to create a blueprint and i was wondering if i could avoid having to connect power

[placid stirrup]

Isolate resources, yes. It's possible to mix resources and then separate them eventually but I wouldn't plan for that yet

[earnest condor]

You are the one who decides what goes on the belts.
Machines don't magically change the belt content because you changed their recipe.

[normal orbit]

no, but pumps are cheap on power

[fluid sapphire]

yeah belts dont have a predictive algorithm built into them

[clear ivy]

its not about the power consumption, rather hooking it up

[earnest condor]

Power should never be a factor in your decision-making 🤷‍♂️

[clear ivy]

similar to how you can just place a conveyor belt lift

[restive meteor]

How do I decide what goes on the belt though? The container has both iron and copper ore. The recipe is set for iron ingots but copper ore has come out on the belt

[placid stirrup]

You can implement a tower to reduce the amount of overall pumps for multi pipe systems, but the chance of complications increases exponentially

[earnest condor]

You decided to put both items in the container with a single output.
Meaning you decided both kinds of items would be on that belt.

[ornate saffron]

dont mix them to begin with. this is how you make sure only one item is on the belt

[earnest condor]

You also decided to put ore in a container? 🤔

[ornate saffron]

@earnest condor you did Ionized Fuel for power ya?

[earnest condor]

Yes.

[ornate saffron]

do you have a tools link i can browse. I just want to see what you did. Ive never done Big ionized

[earnest condor]

When I am home 👍

[restive meteor]

OK, I think that answers my question. Basically the belt will draw randomnly so if there is a mix of items then anything could come out, it isn't responding to the demand

[earnest condor]

No.

The belt draws in order of what's in the container.

Starting in the bottom right.

[restive meteor]

And yeah, I am producing ore quicker than using it so i was putting it in a container

[placid stirrup]

Containers are first in, first out (FIFO)

[fluid sapphire]

the belts cant know what you want

[earnest condor]

But also.. don't put ore in containers?

[fluid sapphire]

you dont need to store ore

[restive meteor]

The belt thing makes sense , just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something

[fluid sapphire]

nodes never run out so there is no benefit to collecting

[fickle oriole]

huh, this is weird - after a long time, now my 'to-do' list never shows - it's always empty. If I pick something and add to 'to-do list', i don't see anything. If I tab over to it and click on the dark right edge to bring it up explicitly, it just shows an empty list. This persists after reloads. Any ideas?

[restive meteor]

Well now I know how the belts work the n I can see that the container doesn't help 🙂

[placid stirrup]

The easy solution would be to create another container and separate the ores

[fickle oriole]

(this is using the experimental version)

[restive meteor]

But as some of the nodes are a long way away then a close store does make sense in my mind

[ornate saffron]

Storage containers are generally for long term Storage and buffers for Depot and logistics hubs (think trains, Vehicles and drones)

going from miner to storage to machine is rather pointless

[fluid sapphire]

you can build long belts, particularly in the early game without any worry, the length of a belt has no bearing on its speed whatsoever, distance to a resource is basically irrelevant

[earnest condor]

Also going Machine -> Storage -> Machine is pointless imo.

[placid stirrup]

Not to mention the popular strategy of standalone factories central to the resources used, instead of transporting them to one or two locations only

[earnest condor]

But people do it all the time 🤷‍♂️

[mortal ginkgo]

Man, finally using jetpack.

Its a fresh air to breah, fresh donut to eat.

[earnest condor]

Jetpack 🙏

[ornate saffron]

many do use aspects of this yes.

For example i break this rule with Aluminum and plubber. I make large quantities then ship them where needed

[earnest condor]

The superior back equipment piece.

[placid stirrup]

LBF 🙏

[mortal ginkgo]

#screenshots message

Best setup ever, you guys could learn alot from me tbh

Do you guys even know how to play this game? I dont think so

[supple canopy]

I love the hoverpack but they could turn down the inertia a little bit

[placid stirrup]

Haha same here regarding aluminum. That's still somewhat independent if the factory has dedicated raw inputs

[ornate saffron]

for sure. Ill make more closer to where its needed too. Im making lots on the west cost. But instead of shipping them to the west swamp I just made more in the swamp

[placid stirrup]

Pretty much what mine look like until I can upgrade to turbo haha

[earnest condor]

I think you spelled "hate" wrong 😉😏

[mortal ginkgo]

at least you are copying a pro gamer

[placid stirrup]

Dang we might have the same save file hahaha
Those baux nodes right there are too good to pass up

[supple canopy]

I love hate but they could turn down the inertia a little bit

[earnest condor]

It's on my list of "game better if never added" 😁

[placid stirrup]

Except we put the nuclear dome right on top of them, but it's fiiiiiine

[fluid sapphire]

?

[ornate saffron]

that exactly what i did two three of the nodes lol

[fallen halo]

Does anyone know if achievements count when enabling game modes like randomized nodes?

[leaden turret]

-# * multiplayer

[earnest condor]

#satisfactory-experimental

[fallen halo]

thnx asked it there 👍

[weary gate]

I’m surprised there’s no Y or T pipe junction.

In this game.

[void cliff]

There is in 1.2 experimental!

[weary gate]

Oh?

When’s it come out?

[ornate saffron]

no date. Its in the Experimental branch though

[weary gate]

Ballpark?

[void cliff]

Experimental is playable now but you have to change beta settings. It’s estimated to go to stable end of June

[fluid sapphire]

estimated by who

[weary gate]

Can’t on Xbox

Unless there’s a console branch.

[ornate saffron]

My GUESS is end of june

[wild mural]

can someone help me with my post i made abt fluids

[ornate saffron]

be patient, This is a community lead discord. People will help when they have time

[copper crag]

im new at the game and im at phase 2 should i transport steel to my base if i have it 1000 meters from the base?

[reef basin]

why do you want to transport it?

[copper crag]

cuz i made a base around iron and i need it to build components to complete phase 2

[reef basin]

make things near nodes

and stop thinking about having just one base

[copper crag]

ok thx

[ornate saffron]

building where the resources are for a specific purpose simplifies logistics and reduces complexity. You also get the added bonus of better performance asthe game only renders what the player can see

[fluid sapphire]

doesnt it give us both?

cycle time

i dont get it

are you saying sf is better or worse xd

everything per minute seems very intuitive

[earnest condor]

Me, who does outposts in Parts per In-Game Day 😏

@earnest raft how is that sushi?

Every belt I can see has only 1 item type on it.

[weak bloom]

The very first thing I did in DSP was get the mod that did the math to show per-minute input and output on machines

There's still plenty of math to be done without wanting to also bother with translating the recipe into per-minute

[earnest condor]

I remember when Satis didn't have per minute on the ui.

[weak bloom]

Like going from time per craft to crafts per minute to resources per minute....
That's not the useful kind of math it's just the tedious kind of math

I never really felt that time per craft was a useful metric

[earnest condor]

Not "because" of that.
Just happened to be at the same time in dev.

[weak bloom]

Obviously it matters when clocking and stuff but the real useful numbers are what you convert time per craft into

[earnest raft]

#screenshots message
it was stacked before

[weak bloom]

So not having to constantly do that is a godsend

[earnest condor]

Cycle time and clock speed is what the game itself reads though.
It does not at all care about "per minute" anything.

[weak bloom]

Sure but that's not useful for me, it's an intermediary metric that is useful for the game but not for planning logistics

[earnest condor]

So clipped non-sushi becomes non-clipped non-sushi if I am reading this right?

[earnest condor]

Which is the majority opinion. And why they added per min to the ui.

[earnest condor]

As a person whose entire world runs on sushi, the distinction matters 😭

[earnest raft]

youre correct but i was just joking

[earnest condor]

👍

It is unconfirmed where the lizards actually have their brains.

[placid stirrup]

Take a look at their derpy faces and tell me with a straight face that you think there's a single brain cell floating somewhere behind that look.

[earnest condor]

Lizard Remains drop when?

Need my DNA points.

[fluid sapphire]

here we go again

[hard wolf]

harming a lizard doggo, birb, or confusing creature should result in getting rushed by a massive swarm stingers

[jovial karma]

I am very new to this game, me and my buddy just built the space elevator and this was just 5 hours in, does the game get more difficult/advanced later on? And does it take longer to complete the other phases? I feel like it obviously has to but we were hoping that it would take us like 100 hours atleast to complete all the phases so

[earnest condor]

Yes, these are all of the voiceline prompts when killing the real enemy of Satisfactory.

• Stop.
• Bad human.
• Is murdering harmless animals your latest hobby?
• Are you going to put that in your CV?
• Rude.
• How human of you.
• You monster.
• That was extremely unnecessary.
• Sending footage to FICSIT psychologists.
• Perhaps you do not care about kittens and/or puppies after all.
• There is no reward, only guilt.
• You psychopath.
• Congratulations, you are now classified as a bad person.
• FICSIT just called to let you know they've found a litter of baby lizard doggos. They're wondering if you've seen their mother?

[shy temple]

Beans are the real enemy. There is no greater disruptor of automation

[hard wolf]

all critters are precious :3

except the stingers

[shy temple]

Absolutely it does! The elevator is the introductory taste and where all the real work leads to

[earnest condor]

The fact we can turn off all stingers but NOT turn off all Steves is moderately annoying.

[hard wolf]

and anything attacking me, though I still feel bad :c

[shy temple]

Think of the elevator like the title screen at the start of a movie after the intro

@jovial karma ^^^

[fluid sapphire]

it gets more complex yeah, you can totally take a very long time to finish all phases if you want. the tempo people play at varies wildly. me i am still playing the same save at 1300 hours

but i am also a probaly slower than average player

i will keep playing this save until it explodes

[jolly surge]

Is there anywhere I can download a few worlds? Looking to get some inspiration to start a new world

[fluid sapphire]

i dont have much interesting but i can DM you mine xd

[jovial karma]

Thank you very much for your answers guys!

[placid stirrup]

SCIM has mega prints you can sift through. Usually just browsing images in #design-and-architecture and #screenshots gives enough inspiration, especially if I have a general idea of what I'm wanting to create.

[frosty sedge]

Anyone reckon bring all the crude oil to one location for refining is smart

[compact briar]

between copper and iron what resource is more in demand on average?

[frosty sedge]

Iron probably both are very important tho

[fluid sapphire]

given the amount of different recipe combinations i dont think you can definitively say

[ornate saffron]

I do not reckon. Personally I like building where the oil is.

[frosty sedge]

There's never enough

[fluid sapphire]

there is a lot more iron on the map than copper though

[frosty sedge]

I want 1800 plastic but no oil nodes are properly together and no way to transport

[fluid sapphire]

if you were to run into a bottleneck, you would probably run into copper first

[hard wolf]

pure ingot recipes (aside from aluminum) can stretch ore supplies really far and iron can either be used to replace copper with stuff like iron wire, or coal with stuff like iron pipes

[compact briar]

for context I'm planning out some space (im early-ish game) for my main factory and to keep it symmetrical and aesthetically pleasing I have to choose between: 8 constructors each for iron plates/iron rods and 4 each for copper sheets/copper wire or 4 each for iron plates/iron rods and 8 each for copper sheets/copper wire

[ornate saffron]

300 oil is 600 plus plastic with recycling

[frosty sedge]

Is it

[hard wolf]

I'm using 416.04 to make 558.81 plastic and 860.06 rubber

[tall lantern]

300 oil can be 900 plastic

[ornate saffron]

Here you go

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=8JahSvxN947e8ckyPBcv

[tall lantern]

or 900 rubber, or any combination thereof

[frosty sedge]

I went on calculator said 2100 is 1800

[unkempt blade]

symmetrical and aesthetically pleasing so like a cube? or are you trying to get fancy with even more axes?

[tall lantern]

all it requires is some alts and a mildly threatening build

[compact briar]

fancy cube 🙂

[ornate saffron]

Follow my link

[empty flame]

Cast screws or steel rotor?

[tall lantern]

whichever you think you'd use

[unkempt blade]

cast screws is the best recipe in the game

[tall lantern]

no universal "best" for alts

gotta think in tradeoffs

[hard wolf]

the plubber feedback loop was really overwhelming and confusing the first time I tried it but now it's fun. it definitely helps to have diluted fuel and blenders and to not have to set up the whole packaged water to diluted packaged fuel to unpackaged fuel cluster

[violet glen]

Hm, Turbo Riffle Ammo or Homing? 🤔
I kinda rarely have aiming issues, and I kinda like the huge magazine of the turbo one, to just tap with.

[hard wolf]

it helps to have smart splitters and priority mergers

[tall lantern]

though the diluted packaged loop can be easily blueprinted

since it's 1:1:1

[fluid sapphire]

its less about having issues with aiming and more about the convenience of just not having to do it at all

[compact briar]

sent a screenshot in screenshot channel

[fluid sapphire]

i only use homing

[hard wolf]

it was more belting everything up that I didn't like. plus I like grouping machines up most of the time

[violet glen]

I have more issues with the homing one just missing

[south sinew]

you can make a print that handlse all the packaging in one go so you don't have to deal with that stuff

[violet glen]

I feel like I can aim better myself :D

[frosty sedge]

Your link says I need 2700 oil for 1800 plastic

[compact briar]

i mean I can expand later, just thinking how I should set it for now

[tall lantern]

don't really need any belting outside the blueprinted module

it's just oil + water into <blueprint>, output fuel

[unkempt blade]

I like turbo but I'm also tapping it and not holding it down

[tall lantern]

says 600 (and 2000 water)?

[ornate saffron]

Choose the tab that says shared plastic. You are looking at your tab

[frosty sedge]

Not for me

[tall lantern]

make sure you're using the right tab

[frosty sedge]

Right tab?

[tall lantern]

along the top

[frosty sedge]

Eraser

[tall lantern]

below the Production header, there's icons for all your Tools plans

[frosty sedge]

Eraser

[tall lantern]

no, Meindratheal

[reef basin]

calculator cannot do loops and is not recommended really

[frosty sedge]

It's a big eraser button where

[ornate saffron]

Let's do it this way then

#math-and-meta message

[tall lantern]

that's on the far right? go left

[edgy swallow]

Hey guys! Could somebody recommend me a walkthrough about the game so I can learn it better? I just finished stage 2 at the hub.

[tall lantern]

none

[reef basin]

generally the recommendation is to not use external help and learn the game on your own, the game itself is enough tutorial

[tall lantern]

not being flippant, the game is actually pretty good at guiding you along, and letting you figure things out

there's ~nothing you can do to irreversibly brick your world or anything, so just experiment and practice

if there's anything specific in mind then ask away

[high kiln]

is it worth setting up the coupon thing

[tall lantern]

yes

[high kiln]

i just got it, what do i use to supply it

[tall lantern]

any spare stuff you have

[high kiln]

mm ok

[tall lantern]

generally more complex parts are worth more points

[edgy swallow]

well, ur right, i just feel like im not doing it the best I could, but yeah nothing happens if its not optimal 😄

[tall lantern]

main thing there is trying to match up input and output rates, look at the per-minute numbers for each craft, and unlock over/underclocking if you haven't already as that'll be your main tool for making things match up beyond the super early stuff

there are planner tools out there that can help when they get more complicated, but I would recommend trying it out yourself first

[violet glen]

there's some stuff all the planners fail at

like water-recycling a couple later recipes need

[tall lantern]

Tools handles that fine

[violet glen]

not really, no

[high kiln]

spaghetti nation 🤤

[tall lantern]

yeah really, ye

[violet glen]

it tells you how much fresh water you need to put in. That's it

but that's only the easy part

[tall lantern]

which is sufficient

[edgy swallow]

well, i have basic farms set up, they do their things. im 10 hours into the game, I got a few stuffs done. I'm at the stage where I could create a factory, where I level up my progress basically (iron, copper, concrete)

[violet glen]

not really, no

[tall lantern]

if you know you need 180 fresh and 120 byproduct, then you can easily clock into two groups

[violet glen]

if you just fuse together waste and valved fresh water, you gonna have a bad time

[tall lantern]

yeah, but that sorta logistics is not the planner's job

[violet glen]

Which is what I said?

[tall lantern]

you said it fails

[violet glen]

which it does

you need to figure that out yourself

[tall lantern]

which to me means it can't generate a working plan at all

[gleaming wasp]

can someone explain to me why someone would use any heavy modular frame recipie other than encased? i've heard some people say flexible is better but i don't see much of any benefit to it compared to encased

[tall lantern]

resource tradeoffs

if you have some other resources available for whatever reason, makes sense to use those rather than bring in other stuff sometimes

flexible's, what, plastic? so, if your factory needs plastic anyway and you could just make a lil extra, why not

[high kiln]

coffee cup gotta be top 10 items

[tall lantern]

(I generally just use Encased, but yeah, alts are all about tradeoffs, which means they're often situational)

[edgy swallow]

how can I get this element? https://imgur.com/a/Bck7t0k

i unlocked the stairs from the coupon store, but its not like this

[tall lantern]

either it's a customiser job which needs a different material (unlockable), or it's the old compact stairs that are gone now

can't see the image because UK government lol

[edgy swallow]

could be old yeah, cuz i've seen it in a 2 years old video

[fluid sapphire]

isnt that just modern railing?

[high kiln]

am lowk making the smart platings manually bru 😭

[tall lantern]

not uncommon tbh

[ornate saffron]

Not uncommon. But youll need 4300 to see credits

[tall lantern]

some people don't bother automating most (or any) space elevator parts

[high kiln]

yea am just talking about phase 1

ill automate it l8r i wanna rush coallll

i needa automate reinforced iron plates actually

[tall lantern]

"properly" automating, anyway, since obviously it's unavoidable. but just slapping some storage containers on an assembler or three and letting it roll is just how a lot of people go lol

[high kiln]

yea lowk thats much easier 😭 😭

setting up a whole new line to make the plates n stuff is annoying

[atomic seal]

Is it a glitch where you don't uncover the map if you're driving about in it? Or is that intended behaviour

[ornate saffron]

i find if you are not traversing the heighest solid land the fog doesnt clear. For example Caves or over hangs

wether trhis is intentional or a glitch i do not know

[tall lantern]

probably bug, can't think why it'd be intentional

check the QA site

referring to the driving, that is

in cave, understandable

[bronze vale]

Just had a Great Idea, the Blurpeint Designer should have a Chair, when you dit in it you go into Free camera build mode you can only build inside the designer in.

[ornate saffron]

my thoughts are

Why would the surface be revealed when you are traveling in a cave. There is no in game cave system map that i know of

[tall lantern]

beat you to it 😛

[mortal ginkgo]

Umm guys. I selected +6 item inventory slot research but I didnt get it.. should I be concerned?

[atomic seal]

No just in general, like, driving on the surface doesn't clear FoW

[fluid sapphire]

well, i have some bad news for you my guy

[high kiln]

and that is...? 😭

actually i dont really mind building, the problem is just the power

[atomic seal]

Stage 3 enters the chat

[fluid sapphire]

there is a lot of that in this game

[high kiln]

how many smart plates in stage 3

[atomic seal]

Needed as an ingredient for other components

[high kiln]

🙏

[fluid sapphire]

you will often need to rebuild production lines that include components that you are already using in other production lines, you will find that you wont be able to infinitely extend stuff you have already built

[tall lantern]

"rebuild" meaning build more copies of

[fluid sapphire]

rebuild as in make more

yes

[tall lantern]

(or variations using different recipe chains and resources)

[high kiln]

ya dats what i meant

i need to figure out how to make factories vertically

currently am building on flat ground and its spaghetti town

[tall lantern]

lifts, ramps, walls

[fluid sapphire]

i wouldnt worry about vertical building until tier 5 honestly

[high kiln]

oh dam 😭

[fluid sapphire]

its just easier

[tall lantern]

nah vertical building in phase 1 is fine

[fluid sapphire]

it can be a hassle

[tall lantern]

doesn't take much to unlock enough stuff to move items and yourself

basically just need, what, lift holes and foundation ramps?

or ladders

[supple canopy]

yea verticality is pushed too hard too early imo

[tall lantern]

do agree that it's not necessary, the map's huge

[fluid sapphire]

you can get to tier 5 with a shoestring operation

[atomic seal]

Unironically I have a habit of just dumping old bases and building new ones

Am on stage 3 and have like 4 bases now

Base 3 was a skyscraper that became very painful to traverse up and down

[gleaming wasp]

you'll need 1000 total

500 modular engines, each needing 2 plates

[ocean niche]

i got a really dumb question

[shy temple]

No such thing. We love questions here.

[rough shore]

unless its about how to manifold or load balance screws

[ocean niche]

Its hard to explain with words
Cant ask in help channel because i just joined need to wait 24 h

[rough shore]

u can post in screenshots

[shy temple]

Well, some stuff you can ask simple and screenshots in screenshots.

[rough shore]

or math and meta

[shy temple]

The help is more for really long and complex discussions.

and to keep this channel from being clogged up.

[ocean niche]

Yeha ill send pictures in screenshot

[sick falcon]

why does my power grid say 0.1 consumption when theres a single constructor hooked up to it doing nothing

[shy sapphire]

guess it takes power keeping the light green?

[tall lantern]

yup, idle machines still consume 0.1MW

most noticeable when a Sink turns on/off and your power only moves by 29.9 MW rather than the full 30

[sleek token]

I just saw something I can't UNSEE - Conveyor belts move SLIGHTLY faster then the objects on them.

[deft badge]

I want the game so badly. I feel like im missing out lol.

[tall lantern]

30% is as good as it normally gets for discounts, so if you're on PC, no time like the present

[deft badge]

I see. Unfortunately I don't think I can even do that. I'm doing my best to get the game. I don't have much cash lol

[tall lantern]

sales happen somewhat frequently, so it'll be there when you do

then you can lose allll the time to it

[deft badge]

Lol

[deft badge]

Thanks!

[obtuse hearth]

is doing 5x the space elevator cost hard?

i was gonna do that and 2x power but i havent even beaten the game yet lol 😭

[wise junco]

Oh heavens, beat the tutorial through phase 5 before trying it on expert mode

[obtuse hearth]

ive made it to phase 2 😭

[wise junco]

I do not recommend turning up the dial until you've seen all the game mechanics

[obtuse hearth]

wanted to do experemental for better truck pathing and thought i might try making it harder 😭

wish they added harder enemies or a setting for it

after you get a rebar gun everything combat related is so easy

[wise junco]

Meh. I put them guys on peaceful. I dont wanna fight em anymore

[south sinew]

you might want to finish the game before declaring it's too easy, especially if you're only on phase 2

[obtuse hearth]

i just do it bc it adds a bit of a challenge to exploring so you have something to do

[wise junco]

You been fighting the radioactive hogs and giant spiders yet?

[obtuse hearth]

LMFAO fair fair

[south sinew]

things escalate substantially in the future phases

[limpid marsh]

where can i report bugs?

[obtuse hearth]

yess theyre like 5 tap to shatter rebar tho

[wise junco]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1496448125534208000

[obtuse hearth]

yeah the only big issue would be power though not space elevator cost 😭

[wise junco]

Thats what you think. Lol

[limpid marsh]

true

[south sinew]

power is a bit tedious but hardly difficult to come by

[limpid marsh]

im at faze 2 also

[south sinew]

it's only in the biomass phase that it raelly hurts

[limpid marsh]

phaze*

[south sinew]

ootherwise it's just a queestion of how long you're willing to click for

[limpid marsh]

well phaze 3 id say idk i completed phaze 2 so phaze 3?

[south sinew]

yes

[limpid marsh]

coal also when limited to pipeline mk one

i hate it i just wanna build big hypertube cannons

[obtuse hearth]

biomass is so easy if you use alien protien

[limpid marsh]

or myselia

[obtuse hearth]

coal is too hard to come by to use it all for power 😭

[wise junco]

Coal ain't shit for power tbh

[limpid marsh]

yea but im working on oil now

[south sinew]

once you reach phase 3 you can move to oil power

[limpid marsh]

for fun coal is shit

[earnest condor]

Where are you?

[wise junco]

Coal is for ||DIAMONDS||

[earnest condor]

No, that is Oil 😛

[wise junco]

THAT TOO

[obtuse hearth]

early game on my main save 😭

[earnest condor]

Also barely need any Diamonds so.. 🤷‍♂️

[wise junco]

Yeah. Tbh I thought id need a lot more diamonds

[south sinew]

I think "wheere" in the direect literal sense

[earnest condor]

That's "When are you?" I asked "Where are you?" 😛

[south sinew]

I mostly wanted a lot ofo diamonds foor mk6 blts

[obtuse hearth]

like where my spawn is?

[earnest condor]

Any location data is appreciated in trying to answer the question, yes.

[wise junco]

I think Sevrahn is asking in the context of you saying coal is hard to come by

[earnest condor]

Can do Time Crystals off like... 1 node.

[obtuse hearth]

i did the dune desert spawn i just built around there

[south sinew]

safe to say you're clearly building belts a lot slower than I am

used several oil nodes just foor diamoonds, still ran a bit shrt

[wise junco]

Yall build fast af

[earnest condor]

So you're in the starting area with the HIGHEST coal density and coal is hard to come by? 🤔

GF: 2 Pures
RD: 6 Normals, 2 Impures
NF: None
DD: 3 Pures, 8 Normals, 5 Impures

[south sinew]

GF also has the crater lakes very clsoe eby, not sure if that technically qualifiese as "in GF" but it's certainly plenty closoe enough for power

[earnest condor]

Stipulation was in the biome directly 🤷‍♂️

[obtuse hearth]

still not enough for power and steel production 😭 🥀

[south sinew]

are you using solid steel ingt?

[wise junco]

SS ingot is a game changer (imo)

[earnest condor]

You're using 3720 Coal right now?

That's a first for a Phase 2 build in my book.

[obtuse hearth]

didnt have it unlocked until recently

[south sinew]

-33% coal usage is pretty decent so if you're estruggling on coal I'd definiteely recommend

but also as Sevrahn said, there'es a shit ton ofo coal in DD, are yoou reaelly using it all?

[earnest condor]

Compacted is the one that makes me scratch my head.

Because in theory it should be good, but then they made the cycle slow AF so it takes a ridiculous amount of space for no reason.

[obtuse hearth]

my problem in the game rn is trying not to have everything be spaghetti around my factory 😭

[obtuse hearth]

im using a lot that i can find at least somewhat near water

[south sinew]

#screenshots message

[obtuse hearth]

idk if im using it all bc my scanner picks up the same 3 coal patches

[south sinew]

you just need to explore a bit further as there's many more coal patches you could be using

[obtuse hearth]

alr alr

im trying not to use any outside help for my first full playthrough so idk where a lot of stuff is around spawn 😭

[south sinew]

checking the map is probably way less outside help than talking to experienced players ;p

[valid epoch]

what tool or planner I can use that will take into consideration overclocking?

[earnest condor]

Like, everyone would hate this change because they are so used to Solid, but imo it should switch "speeds" with Compacted.

This would line it up with how other recipes do trade-offs. The cheapest one that increased production (Solid) would take the most space. And the one bringing in a "rarer" resource (Compacted) would be rewarded with taking less due to the cost being spent somewhere else.

[south sinew]

gotta say that compacted just seems.. bad

[earnest condor]

Or just straight make Compacted 5x faster 🤷‍♂️

[earnest condor]

It's only objectively bad because it has a cycle rate of 10 Ingot/min.
Which means the space required is insane given you're already trading in Sulfur.

Like, Solid being that "slow" would still have people using it because it's cheap and increases product amount at the cost of space.

Compacted costing space and sulfur is what makes it not make any sense.

[south sinew]

I feel like it's still really bad even regardless of the speed, because solid also lets you sub in other alts like pure for the iron ingot

if you despereately just need to minimize coal cost and don't mind increased iron then coke steel wuold be the choice anyway

[earnest condor]

Pure Iron Ingot is a scam and a whole other conversation.

[south sinew]

people seem to hate pure iron ingot but I love it, howevere you can of course use any iron ingot alt you want with solid steel ingot

[obtuse hearth]

the truck pathing in 1.2 is so much better oml 😭

[earnest condor]

It's legit the worst conversion rate of any alt.

And Basic Iron blows it out of the water (literally).

Basic > Alloy > And then I can see Pure being above Leached just because Sulfur for Iron is not a great trade.

[south sinew]

conversion rate is of no oconcern, just click the autoconnecting blueprint a couple more times, job done

[earnest condor]

That's not how that works, but ok.

[south sinew]

that's exactly how I did it

I would never use basic because you're getting an only very marginal ore-to-ingot improvement but you're expending a much mroe valuable resource (limestone) compared to functionally free (water)

[earnest condor]

1200 being turned into 2400 happens with Basic.
You cannot "click a couple more times" and achieve that with Pure.

[south sinew]

oh, by conversion rate, I thought you omeant the items/sec

[earnest condor]

That would be the speed/space metric.

[south sinew]

right

so to clarify my argument there, yes you'ree getting a better iron ore to iron ingot ratio with basic, but it's only very slightly better than pure and you're paying a lot of limestone for that instead of water which is pretty free

although I agree that Leached seems like a nonstarter

and of couorsee, with Basic, you could use that limestone in oother alts later on foor bigger improvements, like wet concrete -> molded steel pipe/beam

[earnest condor]

Is there something else you need assloads of limestone for?
Because you can supply iron and steel and still have tons of "what do I even do with this node?" limestone nodes afaik.

[south sinew]

I actually had a few problems with concrete because basically everything steel either uses concrete or has good alts using concrete

encased pipe, molded beam, moolded pipe, encased framee

althouogh it was really singularity cells that stretched things to the limit

[earnest condor]

Molded Beam I will give you.
Pipes aren't needing in insane quantities to my knowledge.

[south sinew]

stators/rotors/frames largely, and there's quite a few buildings and stuff that need them

[earnest condor]

EIBs is just.. HMFs.
So those kind of have a cap unless you're planning 200+ HMF production.

[earnest condor]

Building material is covered by like 1-200 Pipe/min.
Not something I would crank out Molded for, personally.

And HMF leads to FMF.

Molded Beam is great, because use Steel Beams a lot.

Only thing I can find that would absolute suck Concrete at scale is if you're making Singularity Cells.

[south sinew]

I think before using singularity cells I was already at maybe 70% concrete usage, so it kinda hurt to add them

[earnest condor]

What were your end-product amounts?

Actually wait -- were you automating Project Parts just for the sake of it?

[south sinew]

wdym "just foor the sake of it", of course I automated them because I wanted to do othere things whilst they ewere being made

[earnest condor]

Yeah that would be why you need Concrete on levels I never will 😄

[south sinew]

although I did overmake a few by accident but I agree that's my fault

and partly because the space elevator connections suck

[earnest condor]

My limestone is split between Basic Iron and Silica. That's pretty much it.

[ornate saffron]

70% of the world limestone is 81000/min
|
edit i redid the math

[earnest condor]

No Project Part automation (because I see no point) allows me to put resources in other places 😄

[obtuse hearth]

is rigor motor a good alt recipe?

[earnest condor]

Good is a point of view, Anakin.

[obtuse hearth]

idk what else id try to get

[south sinew]

if you use basic/soolid you pay 0.5/1/0.8 iron/cal/limestone for a pipe, wet/pure/solid/moolded is 0.359/0.66/0.9 limestone, so it's fractionally more limestone for a fair bit less iron and coal

[earnest condor]

Pretty much every alt has merit in the right context.
And you are the person who determines context for your world.

So you're the sole person who can declare things "good" or "bad."

[obtuse hearth]

ohh okay okay

[south sinew]

for steel beam it's 0.957 iron/1.77 coal/2.667 limestone for a beam, compareed to 1.3 iron/2.667 coal/2.1 limestone

[earnest condor]

I also get to use Foundries instead of big-ass Refineries 🤷‍♂️

[latent prawn]

its pretty good in that it makes 4x the number of motors from the same rotor and stator count at the expense of oscillators

[south sinew]

that's fair, I put my factory over the ocean so pumping water was very easy

[obtuse hearth]

oscillators are gonna be so annoying to transport since the closest amethyst patch is decently far 😭

[earnest condor]

In the case of Rigour:

Your tradeoff vs. normal is "You need to make Oscillators" but in turn "6+6=12 instead of baseline 6+6=3"

[latent prawn]

yeah, oscillators are the worst, lol. but 4x motor is +1

[ornate saffron]

im sure a few factory carts are up to the task

[wise junco]

👀

[south sinew]

so in total, basic/solid pays a bit lses limestone, but substantially more iron/coal to make a pipe/beam compared to wet/pure/solid/molded

[grave cove]

Any pro player could look into my 3 max capacity belts into 4 belts issue in https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1497004089320411176 Pls 😮 Tyvm

[dense violet]

I'm fairly certain a list exists, it's all the information right at your fingertips, much better than some rando spewing random and maybe wrong things at you

[hard wolf]

rigor or electric motors?

[earnest condor]

Both.

[hard wolf]

I just need 47.5/m at the moment

though I'm pretty well backed up on oscillators

[earnest condor]

How does production ever back up 😭

[hard wolf]

I'm either overproducing into buffers/depots, other production lines that are also feeding into buffers/depots, or both

typically both except for like turbo motors or supercomputers

[earnest condor]

And then all excess gets sunk as intended right?

...right?

[hard wolf]

no, because then the excess feeds other productions lines at that are linked to overflows. it's a temporary factory to help me stock up on stuff so I'm ready to build my rocket fuel plant/packaged ionized fuel factory, nuclear plant, and depot mall

[earnest condor]

I cri 😭

[wise junco]

SinkWhileUWait

[hard wolf]

the depot mall and ionized fuel factory will have overflows. also I've unlocked everything in the hub, mam, and awesome shop

except for the statues and the boombox but those are very low priority

[ornate saffron]

The worst of Goats Sim is free This makes the Boombox A MUST

[hard wolf]

goat sim music is definitely worth but I'm usually watching a video or something

[reef basin]

all recipes are good

[proud shoal]

What do y’all think is the best spawn

[frosty sedge]

Desert probs

[earnest condor]

Rocky Desert.

[ornate saffron]

really depends on what you want

[earnest condor]

Uncontested.

[ornate saffron]

I like the forest. Its near the center of the map so nothing is far

[earnest condor]

Largest, flattest, most open terrain on the entire map? ✅
Highest resource diversity of any starting biomes? ✅
All 4 enemy types for MAM unlocks? ✅
Literal FIELDS of wood to get you through the biomass phase instead of relying on leaves? ✅

Rocky Desert.

[proud shoal]

Real

I tried the other spawns just to test and rocky desert was the best

[simple pebble]

Yeah, Rocky Desert is just so good. Northern Forest is great too, absolutely insane resource supply in a tight space, and it's right next to Rocky Desert.

But Northern Forest is a huge challenge for building design

[earnest condor]

Challenge overcome with Shards 😉

[ornate saffron]

you say challenge i say opportunity

[placid stirrup]

NF is for sure my preference, for all the reasons above

[abstract notch]

Does anyone else want a new type of train signal that only allows trains that you select to go into that block

It would be really nice to have

[next ivy]

you can use a station for that, at least kind of

[reef basin]

can't compare them like that tbh

every one has their own advantages and disadvantages

[earnest condor]

Huh?

[placid stirrup]

You can pretty much force this with how you build your lines. Trains will automatically select the shortest possible path

[ornate saffron]

I just want them to place properly. lots of placing bugs

[worn oar]

#screenshots message That feeling when the nuclear build stabilizes out perfectly 😌

[shy temple]

The real way to flatten your power curve. Just build so much power, you cannot see the spikes

[wise junco]

beautiful

[worn oar]

There are no spikes, because geothermal only charges batteries

[shy temple]

still a spikish :3

[grave cove]

Is there a way to stop 160 Fuel Generators from producing power ? Knowing they all have enough to generate fuel ?
A way to do that without having to turn each of them off one by one ?

[shy temple]

No way one by one because as soon as they connect to a power grid, they run

I guess one thing is that do they run if there is no draw but on a power line?

[wise junco]

they'll run if they're hooked even to a dead wall outlet

[grave cove]

fk

[wise junco]

either have to switch off each switch or delete their power lines

[hollow mountain]

finaly i made my first train

[worn oar]

Nice dude

What is it for?

[grave cove]

I just used circuit breaker and it works, I can shut down the whole thing at once, but one small issue is i cannot turn them back on ^^'

Wait the game only keeps 3 autosaves... i'm so screwed

[wise junco]

huh, didn't think a power switch would work, but good find

[grave cove]

No idea how to switch it back on tho, and I the last save I have is either from 3 minutes ago or 6 hours ago

[hearty flame]

#satisfactory-memes message we have a 3rd elevated one? nice

#screenshots message @worn oar how about all lines being 100% straight

[worn oar]

Nah that's impossible

[wise junco]

I hate the truth of this

[hearty flame]

nah u just gotta have everhthing at 100% efficiency

[wise junco]

nope

[hearty flame]

trust

[onyx wren]

Will console to pc cross platform ever be a thing or no

[worn oar]

You're asking me to return to every single production line, every single byproduct, every miner, every smelter and retrofit them with smart splitters to a sink, and never have a train backup, never have a filled storage container or depot. I absolutely DARE you to do that at any point beyond phase 3. You can't.

[wise junco]

no particle accelerators, no quantum encoders lol

[worn oar]

And it's also literally impossible for this reason since particle accelerators are needed for part of plutonium production

[reef basin]

Don't think it's gonna happen

[onyx wren]

the reason i found on google is that its because pc has mods? is that really it?

[grave cove]

Trust me you don't want that to happend

[onyx wren]

you dont want me to play with friends that dont have pc?

[grave cove]

If you play PC, if you play console that would be a huge W

[onyx wren]

i dont use mods as it is, so its not a downside to me

[grave cove]

For all the downsides it gets nah, if I was you i'd rather help my friends build a pc than having any other game i like get updated to crossplatform

[onyx wren]

youve yet to name a single downside

[grave cove]

because i'm traumatized by them

[onyx wren]

so because YOU had a bad experience, the rest of us cant possibly have fun?

[grave cove]

I wished it was only me that had bad experiences with it lol

Cross platform is the best thing on paper

If you're a very casual player I guess there would be close to no downside, if you don't play with mods.

[onyx wren]

i fail to see why mods in a game not designed around them cant be crossplatform because of them

[ornate saffron]

the real issue with cross plateform is the console limitations. The Uobject limit is half of PC

[grave cove]

I wanted to answer but i'm too tired sorry, check other games that have crossplatform and see all the issues they get, delays, messy bugs, console limitations etc

[onyx wren]

too tired for a real answer but not tired enough to bicker with me

[grave cove]

I play ASA and they reduced official servers structure limit from unlimited to 5000 bc consoles couldnt manage the loading times

[grave cove]

real answer requires brain activity, remembering each thing, citing you sources etc

[runic nacelle]

It’s funny how sassy Ada is lmao

[viscid flower]

Hi guys, how do i balance 7x171(nitrogen gas) resource well extractors into 2x pipes of 600m3 each? Do they self balance if i just connect them all in one mk2 pipeline then add 2 lines output?

[dense violet]

how do you have 7 of them?

[dense violet]

but in general you just don't.
interlinking fluid systems with many merge/splits is a bad idea, easily causes flow issues.

merge what you need and process each pipe independently

[viscid flower]

Theres 7 extractor spots in the node north of rocky desert

[dense violet]

171 is a very weird extraction number though

[wise junco]

you're a weird extraction number

[dense violet]

sometimes!

[dense violet]

much easier to set extractors to 250% and just merge 4x300 pipes into 2

the power use is negligible and anything that makes your pipes more stable is worth it even if it cost 10x the power

100x even

[viscid flower]

Ye i thought to have the total be 1200 but i guess it'd have to be 250%

[dense violet]

it just makes your life so much easier at basically zero cost

[viscid flower]

Its my first time trying to use the pressurizer and its a bit confusing lol

[wise junco]

my advice for pressurizer: max the output and just use what you actually need. its power consumption won't fluctuate

[dense violet]

no stress 🙂
but with fluids yo ubasically always want to try to simplify your systems

now of course you can do weird fancy fluid systems, but you do really need to know what you're doing as well as committing the time for it

[grave cove]

@wise junco my 6 refineries that produce heavy oil require a total of 438,75 oil per minute, 75x5+63.75, do you think I should split it evenly or should I not care and just build a manifold like system with the two pipes double connect on both edges ?

And my pipe getting oil is capped at 600

[wise junco]

I'd manifold the crap out of that part, just let it prefill and should be fine

raise the feed pipe up and you should be fine

[grave cove]

aight

[grave cove]

whys that ? a pump wont be enough ?

[cold berry]

Apparently from what we know, The entire world's humans consume 68TW of power every day and I bet a satisfactory player has that honestly. I've seen 1.3TW today

[wise junco]

raised feed pipe makes it more stable

[ornate saffron]

how fairs the banana

[cold berry]

I don't know if I got that right.

[wise junco]

not too shabby! how fares USBeefalo?

[cold berry]

Feels wrong

[hollow turret]

is it possible to make 50 fisconuim fuel rods /min?

[wise junco]

tempted to say no, at least without sloops, since max U rods is 50.4

[ornate saffron]

Im sure with sloops you could get there. BUT the power costs would make it not worth while

[hollow turret]

ok

[ornate saffron]

#math-and-meta message

[hollow turret]

thanks

[wise junco]

i stand corrected. i'm surprised you can make that many F rods

[ornate saffron]

in the same convo they mentioin there is not enough same for that so youd need to play .12 and play all pure

[ornate saffron]

#math-and-meta message

this is a more accurate plan

searching the themed channnels for key words can bring up much of the information ppl need lol

[hollow turret]

ok

[ornate saffron]

Im okay, 11 days til vacation

[wise junco]

ooooh! it's a-comin'

[ornate saffron]

im burnt out. I dont wana see my co workers any more

[wise junco]

me, every day, of every job i've ever worked ^

[ornate saffron]

i work in warehouses and factories. So i have to deal mostly with stereo typical Blue collar Conservatives

[wise junco]

oh weird, do we have the same job?

[ornate saffron]

not likely,

I work for a furnitrure company that supplies mainly schools

[wise junco]

i stuff vending machines in factories and warehouses

[ornate saffron]

dealing with the casual racism and misogyny wears me down so much

[ornate saffron]

close enough

[wise junco]

i bet we both have some horror stories lol

[simple pebble]

Christ

[ornate saffron]

Beefalo is fine. I know the long luscious mane makes me look like a saviour though

[wise junco]

#screenshots message this was oddly satisfying shadow placement

[ornate saffron]

this is the opposite
"
#screenshots message

[wise junco]

internal screaming

[simple pebble]

It's the S

[ornate saffron]

if you squint and pour Bear mace in your eyes..... ya

[ornate saffron]

butr the "Cool S" is legendary

[dense violet]

you had me at 'pour bear mace in eyes'

[ornate saffron]

@mighty totem I see no bugs.

[mighty totem]

Is it new? Or has it been around?

[ornate saffron]

In northern Canada we think of these things lol

[ornate saffron]

what? slide jumping? Been around since be fore steam launch i think

[mighty totem]

Oh

New trick for the roster ig

[ornate saffron]

its a key feature for early game movement

[ornate saffron]

Satisfactory is inspired by Factorio But built on the framework of the CSS previous game Sanctum 2. It was a shooter of sorts

[placid stirrup]

And remains in use through beating the game 😁

[wise junco]

soo nah me

[ornate saffron]

the game feels great to play tbh

[grave cove]

I have 6 machines, 1-5 take 200 sulfur, 6 takes 170, I have 1 belt at 780 and one at 390, how do i split everything perfectly evenly without using a manifold system ?

[ornate saffron]

i wouldnt i would feed one belt lets say the 780 to the first 3 machines merge in the 390 belt and continue the manifold

[grave cove]

I really wanna make things perfect for this build, I don't wanna use a manifold system, i'm super traumatized

[ornate saffron]

the manifold is opften the perfect soluition

[grave cove]

I swear i'm going to trust you but i better not have any issues ok xd

I havent had any issues with manifolds or my pipe builds since the first minute i played this game and it's now been 160 hours, but now i'm having all issues possible at once, idk why

[placid stirrup]

It's often not an issue with the manifold, those are fairly idiot proof. I find most issues with supply a la transportation, splitting/merging, and if you try to sushi.

Also, root logistics jams aren't automatically fixed if you switch from a manifold to a balancer. Most of the time it's a cascading issue from upstream

[ornate saffron]

i misplace a splitter (it was supposed to be on a lift not next to it clipping oddly) at the end of my plutonium chain. It took around fifty hours to back up. It was a night mare to trouble shot and remove all the radioactive blockages

[placid stirrup]

[ornate saffron]

apparently my birthday DLC was the inability to use compound words lol

[placid stirrup]

I tote ally under stand the scent of mint

I'd take that birthday DLC over my body feeling like it's held together by glue, spit, and prayers (30+ gang, you guys get it)

[ornate saffron]

ya, last years DLC (my 40th) was hip pain. I know have a 24 minute stretching routine so i can function daily lol

[placid stirrup]

I acknowledge my place
🙇‍♂️

Also hit me up with that routine

[ornate saffron]

i got it from Physio lol

at least my benefits cover most of that lol

$10 a visit from my pocket verses 140 is huge

[placid stirrup]

Once we figure out how to synthesize remains into medicinal inhalers we'll cure all our ailments with a single huff

[ornate saffron]

or make us so high we dont care. Both are acceptable

[hard wolf]

I've taken my temporary handfed turbo motor/RCU/supercomputer/cooling unit/fused modular frame factory and automated power shard/time crystal/trigon factory, tacked on a bunch of extra production lines to supply everything, and added superposition oscillators, plus singularity cells to fuel a few portals, and the only thing that hasn't been linked up to outputs is neural quantum processors. I'm calling it Pasta Town :3 #screenshots message

[wise junco]

dats some good sketti

[west jackal]

pasta town is intimidating for outside viewers

[karmic knot]

how do i get my splitters to not go inside the lifts

[wise junco]

don't put them on lifts

[karmic knot]

nuh uh ive seen vid where its not inside

[hard wolf]

Side effects of looking at Pasta Town include but are not limited to: anxiety, panic, hysterical laughter, confusion, and sweating. Ask your doctor before looking at Pasta Town.

Pasta Town: What am I looking at?

@karmic knot nudging might help

[karmic knot]

cant nudge

[hard wolf]

spawn the hologram on the floor and move it from there?

is it latching to the output or somewhere in the middle?

[wise junco]

#screenshots message

if you mean like this, just make a lift, put on your splitter/merger, delete lift

[hard wolf]

you can't place things in the air without nudging

[karmic knot]

maybe i can put a belt if i nudge lemme see

[fast summit]

i think we should disable achievements for people who choose to make every node pure. its weenie hut jr mode for logsticis and sourcing material.

[wise junco]

i'm sorta confused what you're looking for

[karmic knot]

your pro

[hard wolf]

that or minmaxing hell

[fast summit]

or yeah- make a separate achievement for completing the game on default settings

[median magnet]

Honestly I think making every node pure just makes too many maths for me

[plucky bone]

When making a 5 way split from 200 to 40 using two 3 way splits and one back into the input, does the "return" belt need to be same as the other final belt speeds or faster?

[west jackal]

question for yous guys, even if you really love the game and want to play it, how do you prevent yourself from just feeling so tired and not getting joy out of anythng (even your favorite game satisfactory) and so instead of doing anything fun, just doing nothing

[wise junco]

antidepressants

[median magnet]

its your splitters that dicate the ratios, so as long as things can move freely through your return belt you should be fine

[west jackal]

huh

im being serious ❤️

[wise junco]

so am i

[west jackal]

😐

[median magnet]

just have a ride in one of your trains and enjoy the scenery

[plucky bone]

Ok. I thought so. Trying to make items not stop and split nice.

Thanks

[wise junco]

you described almost word for word when i was super depressed 👀

[rich parrot]

Achievements are a personal thing though. It does not really matter how people get them.

[plucky bone]

I just go hunt for drives or kill/ explore

[west jackal]

oh. lovely.

well i notice you said that in past tense, so im glad. but i dont think im depressed

[rich parrot]

Walking outside for about an hour usually helps me. It gives me time to think in silence. Things usually seem less bad after a walk.

[west jackal]

i went on a bike ride today, i felt good on the bike ride. but once i got home the hopelessness (i guess thats the word) crashed back in?

this is off topic, thank you for yalls responses

[placid stirrup]

"I got be-ah"

[median magnet]

A few years ago, i made my own achievement. I built some legs, but accidently lost them on some belts, drones were going everywhere and took them away. i made it a mission to find them before i allowed myself to build some more. i had to dismantle an entire 500 machine fuel power station before i eventually found them again, it took over 6 months. i had fun

[rich parrot]

I am... unsure how to respond. As long as you had fun doing it 😛 I would not have bothered.

[median magnet]

my brother said the same thing, but it was before achievements were added. oh it annoyed him a lot

[median magnet]

i know its hard to feel that way. You are not alone in that. I dont know if it will help you, but for me, when i feel like that, i just find a small task, something simple, boring or repetitive and focus on it for a while, something that last more than 15 minutes or so and distracts the brain long enough to get into it. It switches off the analytical mind for a little while and helps to calm the overthought.

[cosmic parcel]

I have a dumb question: is there a way to pause the new 1.2 trucks so they arent constantly circling and wasting fuel?

[hard wolf]

turn off auto driving when they're at the dropoff so they're easy to get to later?

[cosmic parcel]

no, I mean, like add a pause to their route. just have them do nothing for like 5 min

or maybe a condition?

[grave cove]

Aight i'm having severe issues with pipes and oil, it is just NOT working no matter what i try, could anyone help me pls ?

[hard wolf]

you could add a 5 minute pause on the old routes, but not now. they haven't added conditions or logic circuits yet

[willow hill]

if it is going uphill, make sure to use pumps

[median magnet]

does the new vehicle options have the "wait until fully loaded/unloaded" option like trains do, i havent looked into them yet

[west jackal]

loop input

[cosmic parcel]

Yeah, thats what I was trying to replicate. Sounds like a no then 🙁

[hard wolf]

if the problem is sloshing you can feed more water into a systaem than you need. if oil is sloshing you kind of just have to wait for it to sort itself out

[grave cove]

It is not working i'm using pumps

[grave cove]

It is not raising the water from even 1 m3, it's all idle

[hard wolf]

iirc if you exceed max headroom it borks. have you read the plumbing guide yet?

[grave cove]

i'm at tier 8

[cosmic parcel]

My dream of having a hierarchical transit network (trucks for short range, rail for long range) is probably dead then, cause I dont want to use trucks if they hyperwaste fuel like that 🙁

[grave cove]

First time i ever have any issues with fluids or items or anything

[hard wolf]

are they completing the loop but the station is already full?

[earnest condor]

Trains "hyperdraw" power at all times so... 🤷‍♂️

[cosmic parcel]

... right, dang

[hard wolf]

you could try adding extra stations/trucks to balance out the load so that the stations have time to empty before the truck returns

that's also a thing with trains

[west jackal]

no?

[earnest condor]

Yes.

[west jackal]

trains dont circle when they are waiting

his complaint was that the trucks were circling while waiting for opening at the station, trains dont do that?

[hard wolf]

trains wait? 🤔

[earnest condor]

No, but the station power only sucks out massively while they are in the station.
So you're turning the train off but all the platforms on.

So either way you're sucking power.

Personally, nothing should ever stop moving.
Even if they added a pause ability, I would never use it.

[cosmic parcel]

no my complaint is that the trucks travel around even if they arent meaningfully transporting anything. I am trucking like 1.5 stacks of Modular Frames across the desert atm over and over

[earnest condor]

Drones also don't have a pause function.

[west jackal]

drones stop flying when station is full...

[earnest condor]

Not the same thing.

[earnest condor]

Given the ridiculous volumes of truck fuels you can make, I would not stress it.

[cosmic parcel]

paying a stack of coal to move a stack of modular frames feels rough, thats all. I would rather use it for more power, but I also dont want to drag a belt across the desert

[earnest condor]

I would sincerely doubt it takes you 100 coal per trip if you're staying inside the DD.

[cosmic parcel]

DD?

[earnest condor]

One of the deserts.

[median magnet]

all you need is any kind of fuel feeding each truck stop. there is an option for them to switch fuel types, coal is easy, node to table, once you get fuel power up and running there is not as much need for excess coal so it can go right in to running trucks. but they also take fuel, batteries etc now

[median magnet]

Dune Desert

[cosmic parcel]

https://i.imgur.com/0b3vp5D.png

[west jackal]

can also power them with nuclear fuel rods

[earnest condor]

Danger link is dangerous.

[willow hill]

that feels like a bad idea for so many reasons

[latent prawn]

coal becomes valuable late-game, but there's enough around and once you get into the advanced fuel types, you can replace the coal with rocket/ion fuel or nuclear rods

[median magnet]

spicy trucks

[hard wolf]

or base/turbo/rocket/ionized fuel

[earnest condor]

Batteries.

[west jackal]

its used commonly in drones. trucks probably a bad idea lol

[latent prawn]

you can use batteries too, but they're not very good anymore

[hard wolf]

just make a big ionized fuel factory and use drones to deliver fuel to all of your truck/drone stations

[west jackal]

are trucks more fuel effecient than drones

i just have drones taking fuels to other drones to fuel their deliveries

[latent prawn]

no, but it is pretty apples & oranges to compare them

[cosmic parcel]

aight, so in summary: there is no early game solution in 1.2 like there was 1.1, so just deal with it til you get fancier fuels. Got it, thanks 🙂

[west jackal]

?

what solution was there in 1.1 that doesnt exist in 1.2

[cosmic parcel]

Solution to downclocking truck frequency

[willow hill]

just make conveyer spaghetti

[cosmic parcel]

telling a truck to pause for 5 min each loop

[hard wolf]

they're the most efficient at carrying small amounts of items over long distances, which makes them good for, say, distributing packaged ionized fuel across the map from the blue crater

[median magnet]

never forget your spaghett

[latent prawn]

drones can move items bidirectionally over extremely long distances for modest amounts of fuel. running a truck across the map would cost more fuel as it navigates terrain

[hard wolf]

I just posted spaghetti :3

[latent prawn]

...and you'd need one for each of the 2 items (at least)

[hard wolf]

trucks are large quantities over short distance, trains are large quantities over long distance, and drones are small quantities over long distance

[west jackal]

unfortunately, i dont have any nitrogen/aluminum left in my world to do mass ionized or rf distribution for drones

[latent prawn]

an example of a task drones are excellent with is moving packaged nitrogen somewhere and returning the empties

[hard wolf]

converters

[west jackal]

low on sam.

[west jackal]

on a side note, how do you make sure that the drone doesnt just deposit the empty containers back at the station unloading?

[latent prawn]

wdym?

[west jackal]

if you use them to move bidirectionally, how do you handle if the station is full and it tries to deposit the wrong ones at one station

[latent prawn]

they pick up the sending load and wait until empty to pick up the load they return with

as such, you kinda need to make sure the inbound & outbound rates match up or things get funky

[hard wolf]

have you gotten into synthetic power shards and overclocked everything?

[west jackal]

me? im not done with the nitrogen yet, about to start the nuclear plant. the aluminum is basically done just need to hook up the last 3 miners, but the usage of all aluminum has been plannmed.

[west jackal]

all the miners? yeah

[hard wolf]

are you out of sloops?

[west jackal]

well. no, but im using 68 on nuclear power plant.

that leaves me with ~30

was thinking about using 20 for augmenters

to be fair, im only producing like 12200 alum ingots/min

[hard wolf]

if you're using then to make far more power than you could ever use, it's a waste imo

[west jackal]

without augmenters im going to be making around 2.1TW of power

[hard wolf]

what's your max draw?

[west jackal]

right now i havent setup the nuclear. im about to start it, just dealing with mental health stuff ig

[shy temple]

Hey guys, I have a wierd problem with my aluminium refinery stopping for short periods of time

[west jackal]

i believe that the nuclear plant will likely be around 850GW draw

[west jackal]

waste water backup?

[hard wolf]

well I hope that goes well. def seek out a therapist. they're great

[west jackal]

im trying to avoid therapist xd

[shy temple]

Well, that is a result of it it seems.

I flush the pipes, it will run a few cycles, pause, and then cycle again

[hard wolf]

vertical pipe junctions can be used as priority liquid mergers

[west jackal]

well, unless the aluminum scrap/ingot is backed up, if the bauxite runs out then that could cause it, but from my experience, its usually an issue with the waste water cycle being weird

[shy temple]

#screenshots messageHere is the issue.... wait... yeah, let me check the outputs

Nope, I did look at that. The scrap metal line is clear

It just will occasionally idle like that

[west jackal]

are you running out of coal?

the fact that its at 4/2 is slightly concerning

[hard wolf]

you gotta find a one with vibes that mesh well with yours. it can be difficult, but it's so worth

[shy temple]

Nope, check screenshot

[west jackal]

i mean that sounds right, but i still live with my dad and he makes comments everytime i have a doctors appt or anything else, i was recently diagnosed with a generalized anxiety disorder and so ive had to have a checkup once a month while they play with meds and so he complains because its 25 bucks each time...

[shy temple]

of course, is my boot up aluminium

[west jackal]

yes i see, it looks like the coal mightve run out? the other option is baux raun out or the waste water isnt balanced right

[shy temple]

I am just confuses by how it keeps pausing.

[west jackal]

what are ratios

[shy temple]

that is why the screenshot, to show the surplus, I can try the pause on it.

[hard wolf]

anxiety fucking sucks, but like it definitely doesn't sound like your dad is helping you get help

that's a big ouch. I'm sorry :(

[shy temple]

coal also is mkiv belts feeding all nice and full

I like to do basic to get the kickstart before I do hard drives

[hard wolf]

instant scrap is very cool and good :3

[west jackal]

fair enough, if youres sure the coal isnt running out, and bauxite is fine, then waste water likely built up

[abstract heron]

hi @unborn gyro

[west jackal]

instant is great, just need aluminum to make instant aluminum blenders 😛

next time ill likely do instant but didnt this time

[shy temple]

Does it even when I flush the system, got the pipes and even put a buffer tank right on output to see.

[hard wolf]

if the waste water is building up you should definitely use a vertical priority pipe junction

[west jackal]

or...

fix the water ratios so it cant buildup?

i dont use VIP and im using recycled water in my aluminum

[shy temple]

The thing is, it is building up because the refinery keeps stopping for the scrap aluminium while upstream is not.

Result is water slowly fills.

The pausing over time causes a water backup, but the waste water is not the original issue.

[west jackal]

trying to interpret what you said. if the scrap is pausing then water shouldnt build up

[hard wolf]

then overflow to wet concrete to sink at the exact number that balances the setup

[west jackal]

no dont do that lol. use recycled water

[finite mirage]

should i use vulkan on linux?

[shy temple]

I just wish I knew why it keeps going idle. That is what is confusing. Also screenshot to show it isn't a supply issue

[hard wolf]

I mean off of the input, not the recycled, though valves could help. even just setting up a valve to siphon off a little bit into a buffer, then disconnecting it once it's reached an equilibrium could solve the issue

[shy temple]

Wait.... I did find it

[hard wolf]

unless it's just a recycling loop, which that could fix

[abstract heron]

i am going to LOVE today

[hard wolf]

linux makes me want to get an AMD GPU but then I stilll wouldn't be able to properly run my music software :/

[finite mirage]

whaaat? didn't get it

[hard wolf]

letting ai think for you = bad 😭

[median magnet]

i have missed some of the convo, but i was getting a screenshot, for the vehicle fuel topic earlier. i just dropped my central storage screenshot

[finite mirage]

i run a 3050 and linux has been extraordinarily stable, id say windows is less stable

[shy temple]

So found the cause, and shared it into screenshots. A stubby line was actually wrong tier. So it showed coal coming in, but calculator latency stopped it from showing the shortage.

[finite mirage]

i switched cuz i wanted to be quirky but now it feels like i have accidentally made the greatest decision

[west jackal]

cant say i have had any instability on my laptop with 3050ti

[abstract heron]

better than that

[west jackal]

so it was coal..?

[hard wolf]

2070 super and same. the novideo joke doesn't hold up as well anymore, but the music software piece is a huge pain point and the only thing that could fix that would be the devs adopting linux. I'm still hopeful, but I think we're still a ways off. I could switch from Ableton to Bitwig but that's kind of rough and I still need Serum which has significant issues I haven't had a good time trying to work around.

[abstract heron]

ITS LIKE THE BEST BEST

[hard wolf]

does anyone else remember that one person who was trying to use copilot to build factories for them?

[finite mirage]

i think i saw a laurie wired video on why linux machines can't fundamentally run modern music software unless an architectural issue is fixed

[abstract heron]

ITs something VERY VERY good maxeek

[hard wolf]

It's definitely doable, and I've seen it done many times, but there are certain pieces of software that I need to enough of an extent that I can't switch to linux

[finite mirage]

whats a moog

[shy temple]

Yeah, The line was a 60 instead of a 120 line for a stubby turning into the machine

So it was showing enough coal, it never dropped to below needed, but I am guessing that was a tick display error

[finite mirage]

yeah im just a tech guy, i dont understand music 😅

[west jackal]

yeah maybe. glad you found it 🙂

[hard wolf]

I need all of the digitech gear :c

and an arturia matrixbrute

[shy temple]

yeah, what confused me is that if it was pausing, why wasnt coal going surplus

So I couldnt see what tech level it was for a part, nor could I see anything on coveyor cause it went right into machine.

Only way I figured it was I actually tried overbuilding it.

Fluid level in buffer now steady

I love problem solving my systems

[abstract heron]

but yes i am going to LOVE today

[hard wolf]

it's very cool and good and Sophie used to make a lot of her music on the OG Octatrack and she's an inspiration to me and I'm still devastated that she's gone

[west jackal]

it was starving on coal. so the machine was pausing, building up a little coal, running, then starving again. because of this the alumina was building up and the water was overflowing. its kinda weird to explain but it overfills

[shy temple]

Yuppers, that part I figured it out. It just wasnt showing the coal running out because I thought it had a 120 and it wasnt showing it dropping below 2 when I watched the machine

[austere tinsel]

Fluids are a headache and a half.

[shy temple]

Now I need to figure out why I am not getting turbo fuel

Well, the fluid setup was perfect. The flaw was the conveyor that was a mk1 and no way to see

[austere tinsel]

Ah. Yeah, that would do it.

[shy temple]

My power to the plant shut off and now am confused because I have a dedicated line at my refinery for getting turbo fuel to the power plants via train

Everything powered off. Train came in empty of turbo fuel

So now the ten minute train ride back to the refinery

(round trip)

[austere tinsel]

Maybe a fluid throughput throttle?

[shy temple]

vOv

[austere tinsel]

If you prefill your fluid systems, you can have machines run for awhile before you notice the throughput throttle.

[shy temple]

It has been running fine for weeks. So now I need to know why train isnt getting loaded with turbo fuel

[hard wolf]

if you can, rush turbofuel. it's a gas and gasses don't require headlift which makes them so much easier

[austere tinsel]

Ah yeah, that’s… Odd.

[shy temple]

I thought maybe train wasnt keeping up, so I waited for it to come in and the car was empty.

[austere tinsel]

Well, factories in Satisfactory are closed loop systems generally.

If it was working for weeks, it should continue working unless some change was made?

[sick falcon]

when are they adding farming mechanics i want to factory farm spiders

[shy temple]

Hence the confusion, something must have broken because it isn't exactly closed, My refinery has supply and supplies.

So is a matter of inspecting. Perhaps something ran short and it shut down