satisfactory

[cold berry]

In a few hours, you'll be ready

My plan after this basic parts factory is to make a bunch of ingot processing stations, and send those via trains and trucks where they need to go. I love doing that. I've done it before. It feels like OpenTTD lol

And I just get to make my own industry centers

[devout pumice]

I'm already planning my mega factory.

[willow pond]

now that i have mk5 belts and aluminum set up, i'm officially adopting using blueprints 🤣

my goal is to melt my pc by collecting all pure node ore and fluids into the middle of the map

[ornate saffron]

just builds screws m,y dude.

[willow pond]

🤣

i might adopt the "do anything you can to avoid screws" thing

[wise junco]

screws are not that bad

[ornate saffron]

that sounds like a lot of self inflicted pain

[willow pond]

possibly

maybe skip the alternates where some weird ass combo of oil products are needed

atm i'm setting up the central building that'll be for all 46 pure iron nodes, 160 smelters per floor

[spring phoenix]

top ten reasons i should throw the oil residue and nuclear waste into the mississippi river

1. i don't want it
2. the mississippi river is boring
3. the mississippi river is very close by
4. did i mention the river is boring

[latent prawn]

they aren't but a lot of people who played through EA have scars from needing them for the base computer recipe

[grave cove]

Kinda confused about truck stations, theres a warning sign and I cant input items in the station to load the trucks

[latent prawn]

set up the path first and snap the truck station to the path, then build the vehicle on the path

[grave cove]

Ah

[latent prawn]

you can also snap the path to the station's pause hologram if you flick the mouse wheel

[noble sand]

how is reason 3 an argument for throwing oil residue and nuclear waste into the mississippi river

[spring phoenix]

I don't have to go far

[noble sand]

for what

[spring phoenix]

i don't have to go very far to get to it and throw the oil residue and nuclear waste into it

[grave cove]

I'm so confused it sasy impossible to get to station

I'm gonna remake the whole test station

[spring phoenix]

coffee stain please add eels and car batteries so i can charge the eels

[willow pond]

tried this with the Hudson, didn't make it any more interesting

[grave cove]

Okay trucks are so coool

[cold berry]

Screws are my favorite part

[earnest condor]

Welcome, brother 💛

[cold berry]

Routing them is such a fun challenge. Without screws, this game would be a "put the round shape in the round hole" game. For babies.

[flint dawn]

do blueprints work across all worlds or are they subject to the world they were made on ?

[grave cove]

I have never actualyl used trains and trucks but now that i'm in phase 4 i'm definetly going to build a road blueprint with both a route for trucks and trains, using both is going to be peak

[earnest condor]

Best logistics practice is using all 3 (trucks, trains, drones) in concert where applicable and not relying entirely one 1 method.

[grave cove]

Yeah but i dont have drones yet

[earnest condor]

THAT BEING SAID: I personally discourage roads. Drive on the dirt using the natural paths 💛

[grave cove]

And drones don't require a road

[grave cove]

With all due respect, no thanks. xd

[earnest condor]

Trains get the beautiful road-like things in my world.

Trucks take advantage of the hundreds of hours Hannah spent building natural roads.

[grave cove]

I feel like I just started playing the actual game

Trains, Trucks, Aluminium, Nuclear stuff and... HOVER PACK

[earnest condor]

I'm with you on everything except Hoverpack.

[true mulch]

with the new path system in 1.2, it's somewhat more reasonable to build roads, but you still need a good reason for it over train tracks

[ornate saffron]

ya, yoiur in phase 4 eh. Thats the last chunk of the tutorial really lol

[earnest condor]

I find it less reasonable, lol.

Roads helped when you had to drive precisely. Now that you just lay the path, natural roadways are so much simpler and more easily used.

[grave cove]

Why ? I just started using it for the first time and its peak

[grave cove]

For small paths

[earnest condor]

Put it this way: What do you use it for, specifically?

[grave cove]

Well, building xd

[earnest condor]

Yeah, see... I played for years before they added it to the game and have fully developed my building method with my feet firmly planted on the ground level.

So the Hoverpack does nothing for me 😄

[true mulch]

good point actually

[grave cove]

roads look so good tho

[earnest condor]

On top of that, Hoverpack requires power -- which is the absolute LAST thing I bring to any building location.

[grave cove]

Everything is ruled by electricity tho

Unless you're building roleplay houses

That exist only for their visual aspect

[leaden turret]

journals are ruled with lines

[grave cove]

No idea what a journal is

Sorry

[leaden turret]

🗒️

[grave cove]

Ah xd

Sorry i'm not english I don't get most jokes written in that language

[leaden turret]

monarchies are ruled with monarchs

[earnest condor]

I bring power, I just bring it after I finish building.
Because a) I don't need it before that, and b) I like the visual of everything turning on simultaneously.

Ah, you're a busser.

[leaden turret]

-# 🧙 🫳⚡⚡⚡

[grave cove]

I use a lot of manifolds and for that it's better to start running the factory asap so everything fills up while buildign next steps

[earnest condor]

I use almost exclusively manifolds.
And for that, it is better to prefeed so I skip the fill time entirely 😄

[grave cove]

I dont have all factories yet so I cant prefill everything sadly

[leaden turret]

I think these days I'd only use load balancing by accident.

or a ficsmas factory if I'm realllllllly bored.

[earnest condor]

Prefeed is like.. if you have 24 smelters, pick up 2400 iron and just slot it into each of them by hand.
When you turn the power on, ALL ANIMATIONS ARE SYNCED and it is beautiful.
And you entirely skip fill time, as stated.

[earnest condor]

Balancing helpful for sushi lines.

[grave cove]

You have a storage with raw iron xd ?

[leaden turret]

I should probably go to sleep, my brain keeps coming up with puns.

[earnest condor]

When I go to build something, I hook a miner up to a container, a smelter between that and another container.
Let run while building.

I then have all the ore and ingots needed to prefeed the lines.

[grave cove]

You're way too organized

[earnest condor]

I delete and reorganize my builds wayyyy too often to try and let the actual lines run while building.

[leaden turret]

a lazy starter factory involves a series of those and splitters + constructors to get copper wire, cable, copper sheets

[grave cove]

I cant do that

[earnest condor]

Satisfactory used to be about thinking ahead and solving your problems before they occurred.
It's a very helpful habit that the game no longer requires.

[leaden turret]

I have spent most of this year developing code for a custom production planner, and it's associated tooling

[leaden turret]

no longer requires.

meaning over-thinking things is optional

[grave cove]

what has changed in the game about that ?

[earnest condor]

I have the simplest example and the largest example, which do you want first?

[leaden turret]

• there's late-game stuff for producing moar stuff from less stuff
• there's mid-late-game stuff for producing moar power for no good reason
• there's global inventory thing (dimensional depot)
• there's teleporters
• there's custom spawn points

[earnest condor]

Go to bed Marv.

[leaden turret]

but the cooooode

[grave cove]

Not really sure how any of these points change the point Sevrahn talked about

[earnest condor]

Is causing to try to ruin conversations whether that is you intent or not. 💛

[grave cove]

Maybe teleporters are accurate

[leaden turret]

[earnest condor]

@grave cove

[grave cove]

Tell me bc @leaden turret message didnt make sense on that topic xD

[earnest condor]

which do you want first?

Pick one?

[grave cove]

I mean I can't pick something I don't know

So give me what u want

[earnest condor]

Simplest example is the Priority Merger.

It's entire purpose is allowing you to 🤬 up your belt math and fix it after the fact instead of needing to think ahead.

Largest example is the Dimensional Depot.

[grave cove]

Ah i havent unlocked it yet :c

[earnest condor]

Problem: getting building materials to location.
Previous solution that required thinking ahead:
Set up automated delivery of infinite resources to build site.
Pathetically easy to do, but people refused and 🤬ed until wifi storage was added so they no longer had to think ahead about anything.

[grave cove]

It's just a inventory fix no ? Like it doesnt have anything else than giving you the ability to not require a massive main storage base

[grave cove]

Ngl if that thing didnt exist I dont think many people wouldve went with a automation system, most people would just put a inventory cap and hypertube to build site

[earnest condor]

Does it make the game more accessible to more people?
Yes.
Is it a good thing for the game?
Arguably.
Does it exist solely to prevent thinking about solutions to problems?
Yes.
Is the lack of thinking what makes it appeal to the larger audience?
Most likely.

🤷‍♂️

Is this a game and does none of it matter because the point is to have fun?
100% 💛

[earnest condor]

Central Storage vs. Satellite Storage was always a fun conversation as both methods had merit.
Now, neither do. 😭

[grave cove]

I wouldve quit the game if dimensional depot didnt exist

[earnest condor]

I quit the game when they added it 😂

[violet glen]

oh dang I accidentally built my power plant at the very fringe edge of the map, and can't place water extractors out there...

Took me like 2h to place and pipe all that, only for no extractors to connect to those pipes :/

[ornate saffron]

ya.... not all water is extractable.....

[slim frost]

hmm.. sounds has been fixed? it dosnt break down for me no more..

but maybe it was cause i have disabled thunder.. and rain

it was allways starting to bug when that started

[grave cove]

Thats weird ngl xd

[earnest condor]

No more weird than uninstalling because you didn't find something 🤷‍♂️

[west jackal]

Can nuke nobs be sunk

[grave cove]

Wel lthere isn't any secret stuff in the game so I don't think anyone quit because they didn't find something 😛

But it's only my opinion, I find it weird to leave because of a QoL change, like it doesnt change 99% of the game

[earnest condor]

We have differing perspectives. Best leave it at that. 💛

[winged bronze]

Guys, is it a know bug to lose cables when dismantling a blueprint that contains cables? Because it is soooooooo annoying 🤣

I use a portable hypertube launcher to go from one place to another around the map to hunt for HDDs and I never have enough cables to go back home to the main base because for some reason, I don’t get all of my cables back…

😭😭😭

It has to be a bug right?

This is in 1.2 experimental by the way

[grave cove]

? oke lol, but i'm curious still, who quit the game because they didnt find something, and what were they looking for ?

[earnest condor]

You said you would quit if you found they didn't have it.

[grave cove]

Ah that type of find lmao

Well yeah if they suddently removed that ability from the game I wouldn't play anymore

[earnest condor]

....

[grave cove]

Because i'm used to it and removing QoL makes no sense

[grave cove]

I mean the way you phrased it was insanely confusing

[earnest condor]

Can we move on?

[grave cove]

You look irritated or something, idk what have I said to make you feel that way but note that it wasnt my intention

[earnest condor]

Continuing when I asked to drop it was the "what have said."

I know it was not your intention. No worries. Just please.. move on 💛

[grave cove]

Okay lmao

I'm glad you launched the game ahain tho

[winged bronze]

amazing DEVS of the game, please fix the bug (if it’s a bug) so I can get all my cables back when I dismantle a blueprint that contains cables! Thank you in advance 🙏🏽

[worn oar]

Check for a dismantle crate

[cold berry]

My dismantle crate 4 builds ago, filling up with bullshit; "what is going ON"

[glacial totem]

is there a jetpack in this game and is it under the SAM research branch? I don't want to look it up, just looking for confirmation I'm on the right path

[wise junco]

there is, it's unlocked through regular tiers, not MAM

[glacial totem]

I want to retrieve my death crate but it's surrounded by radioactive beasts and super spiders

[glacial totem]

oh damn, ok

[quartz salmon]

Get the rebar gun and just shoot them from a high spot

[glacial totem]

they've learned to spew rocks at me though!

[wise junco]

i've also seen people blueprint a safety cage to plop around yourself

[glacial totem]

I tried that, didn't get far enough

[quartz salmon]

Dodge and weave

Do you have gunpowder?

[wise junco]

if it helps, you can make the spiders jump off cliffs 😉

[glacial totem]

Nah, not yet. Just using regular iron rods in the gun

[quartz salmon]

Ya just keep popping rounds off at them until they die

[glacial totem]

Ok will do 💪

[quartz salmon]

The jetpack really wouldn’t help you anyways until you get fuel

[glacial totem]

Ah ok

[quartz salmon]

I don’t really use the jetpack until I get turbo fuel

[glacial totem]

One of my death crates is like impossible to find.. any other way to retrieve them? It's on a cliff side or something but I can't see it

[quartz salmon]

It’s probably glitched

[glacial totem]

Let's hope it was only full of leaves or something

[quartz salmon]

Unless you had like sumersloops or Mercer spheres it’d not even worth the hassle in my opinion

[glacial totem]

Ok

I will delete the icon it's annoying

[abstract spade]

its useful even with normal fuel for keeping movement speed

cuz u cant slide uphill u can use it to get over bumps while keeping momentum

[cold berry]

Haha, I haven't made turbofuel yet

It feels like a side quest I should have done in an open world game but haven't yet

I mean it's essentially that yeah I don't know why I said "it's like"

[timid rune]

next save I am keeping the turbofuel setup on the crater and not bringing it down lol

[glacial totem]

what's the yellowing of some of my map markers mean?

[timid rune]

Out: 2732 Dark Crystal/min

now I kinda know what I want to do next save loll

[wise junco]

issa bug

[dense violet]

liquid bio fuel

[wise junco]

you're a liquid bio fuel

[dense violet]

I am very moist yet flamable

not a sentence I ever thought we'd say but this is the sort of thign 2026 brings out I guess

[wise junco]

I am mere minutes away from finishing the tutorial

[dense violet]

just never hit that last button.
Do your own projcts.
Ficsit can suck it

I never have

[wise junco]

but then i can begin true sandbox mode

[dense violet]

you unlock alllll the tech with teh last milestone. Not phase

[wise junco]

i'm gonna do it

[dense violet]

working for the man, having EVERYTHING ready to finalise everything, and then just not, is the biggest middle finger you can give

[wise junco]

i mean, you're absolutely correct

[dense violet]

I mean if you could pour petrol all over the materials and set it on fire, that would work better. But not an actual option in game

[wise junco]

nuke nobelisks everywhere

[dense violet]

still not enough in game destruction sadly!

[wise junco]

I think I'm gonna load the canister... and not send it. at least not tonight

tease FICSIT

[hard wolf]

I just finished a temporary setup to make 10 synthetic shards/m, plus 20 each of time crystals and trigons and it's a mess xwx

[hard wolf]

I haven't built a new powerplant since I unlocked turbofuel :3

[glacial totem]

oh my god TIER 3 CONVEYORS

I can't gif here 🙁

I love this game so much

do the Devs read this? lol

[robust wigeon]

They shoulda given you more tech after completing the final phase, smh

Their fault

[robust wigeon]

This channel? Occasionally, but the odds of them seeing this specific message are slim to none. If you want to get in touch with them via Discord, there are better ways, this channel moreso just a place for community member to hang out.

[swift quarry]

That's what they want you to think

[robust wigeon]

lol

I am somewhat surprised at the relatively low activity level this channel has for being a general channel of a server of 250k members

So maybe it’s possible

But I’ve never seen them actually reply to anything while I’m here, which doesn’t rule out lurking, but

you get the picture

[swift quarry]

I wouldn't know I am just now getting into the game. Always dropped it before completing the first phase

[hard wolf]

I'm really hoping we get extra planets

[willow pond]

i was more thinking about an expansion involving doing some planetary prep work to get it ready for colonization

[hard wolf]

I need extra planets and a terrestrial VTOL that moves faster than slide jumping or hypertube cannons >.<

[willow pond]

there'd need to be some kind of unique elements or mechanics on each world, at least to me

[hard wolf]

like turning stars into portals and creating a network across the galaxy so that humanity can expand out of an overcrowded planet?

also building cloud factories around gas giants would be cool

[willow pond]

yea, i think it boils down to which is more annoying to a player in this game: not doing more stuff on the map, or not being able to either get to the station or fly on the ship

might involve taking elements from Minecraft, KSP, or DSP depending on what direction they'd wanna go

[stable whale]

good evening. question for anyone who has the experience -
my friends and I just got a private server to build a new world together. i've completed phase 4 in my solo world but not further. my world is a mess and i took a stab at building with purpose but didnt get far since we are starting this world. so heres the question: when starting out is it better to build factories that focus on manufacturing the base of an ore (ingots, packaged fuel, etc) then transporting those goods via trains or drones to larger factories that will turn those into parts or is it better to build mid size factories that utilize local resources to build parts that are sent via train/drone to more complex factories? whats your experience and which do you feel is better?

[willow pond]

whichever feels the least insane to you

personally, i set up "long term stuff" early-ish with minecraft style sky bridges just to get to resources

this time around i've run around the map & grabbed all the geothermal and put it on one grid asap

[stable whale]

i think we are going to have to build a basic factory at first to utilize local resources in order to build up supply but i want to transition into building resource factories on the nodes then transporting those resources to large factories to make parts in different areas

our goal is to build a complex transportation system. it seems challenging which is fun for us

[willow pond]

if you're having fun, i don't see any issues 😄

[stable whale]

i guess i was wondering if one is more efficient than the other

[stable whale]

for electricity?

[willow pond]

yup

[stable whale]

makes sense

[willow pond]

14ish GW of power that doesn't need any resources besides setting up the buildings & linking them together

[stable whale]

thats actually smart

[willow pond]

i'm also on passive mode, so it was just running around

[stable whale]

ah yeah we are not in passive

[willow pond]

active mobs might make that a challenge

[stable whale]

but geothermal is a good idea early fs

[willow pond]

god. this one building is gonna suck down 7GW

without overclocking

or sloops

ok that's not that much but now i have to start setting up more power 🤣

[robust wigeon]

You can’t really make anything faster than hypertube cannons that’s not the teleporter

considering how a hypertube cannon can take you from one end of the map to the other so damn fast already

[willow pond]

so what we're saying is that this is all a prelude to the Stargate franchise

[robust wigeon]

real

I think they could take notes from The Planet Crafter, maybe

where there are a handful of worlds to start out on

[willow pond]

ADA being an SG-1 Asgardian would explain a lot

[robust wigeon]

but once you complete one world, you can move on to the others, which are conveniently located in the same system

[cursive topaz]

Guys alt circuit board, rubber and pertol coke? Or rescan

[robust wigeon]

You’ll immediately speedrun them considering your tech is so far advanced compared to just starting out

[robust wigeon]

I’ve never used that one

But it could be good

Making circuit boards out of just oil is… appealing, if not expensive

[cursive topaz]

Indeed, but the alternative needing plastic and copper (normal recipe)

[robust wigeon]

But you still need to go to them for progression purposes, though the system in that game is different, Satisfactory would probably have them produce alternate resources (like one planet has Caterium, one has Strawberrium, and another might have Longium, and you’ll need all of those in pretty huge quantities to finish the final phase)

So the bulk of your automation is on your started planet

[cursive topaz]

And im about to start firing up a adaptive control unit plant

[robust wigeon]

But you need to build power plants and quarries if not also manufacturing on other planets too, but with the advantage of having a maxed out tech tree from the planet you started on (I’d imagine each planet could also have different tech progression available)

That’d be pretty epic tbh and it would also fit pretty well thematically

[hard wolf]

I like the circuit board alts. which one did you roll? (if you haven't picked already)

[cursive topaz]

I got electro circuit board which is rubber and petroleum come , or and iron ingots which I won’t use

[weak bloom]

That's basically factorio space age no? Each planet has one big unique tech mechanic but the fundamentals of the tech are shared

[robust wigeon]

I suppose

And would that be so bad? I think it’d suit satisfactory fine, tbh

[weak bloom]

Oh yeah I'm not saying it's a bad idea

[hard wolf]

I hope that wasn't pure iron ingots. I use silicon and caterium circuit boards, but electrode would be useful in a situation where you have excess heavy oil residue

none of the recipes are bad. you just have to find the right time to use them

[cursive topaz]

I can make excessive heavy oil residue

I mean I am trying to spool up a adaptive control unit plant so it will probably help

[hard wolf]

have you been introduced to satisfactory modeler yet?

[cursive topaz]

?

[hard wolf]

it's free on steam and will 100% help you plan out your factory

[cursive topaz]

Ik have to look at it

Rn I’m using satisfactory calculator which essentially does a similar thing

[twin parcel]

anyone knows which spot is the best to build nuclear plant?

[oblique aspen]

near or over water, need plenty water, otherwise there is really no best, find enough water near where you have the resources you plan to use

[hard wolf]

swamp imo, though any area sufficiently far away from where you're going to be at any given time is good

[hard wolf]

calculator does it for you and doesn't handle nuclear material well. modeler lets you do it yourself with all of the options

[cursive topaz]

That’s useful

[hard wolf]

calculator is nice in that it can give you ideas of what alts to use but I find myself useing some of the more situational stuff a lot in modeler, especially if I want to limit the number of different items I'm making.

[cursive topaz]

That I get

I need to build an oil processing plant in the swamp cus moving the oil from the swamp to the open fields kinda sucks

So that’s tomorrows plan

And maybe start making turbo fuel and using that not sure yet

[wet bluff]

ok am i tripping the mk2 pipe isn't taking 600pmin help

[limber cove]

are servers locked to 4 player maximum?

[meager fern]

according to the fandom wiki page on multiplayer, you can hypothetically, but not practically, have up to 127 players

it says that the host can edit a config file

[valid epoch]

Is it wise to build a huge power plant on top of the abyss near the crater?

[dense violet]

build power where ever it's convenient

[versed mesa]

Hello all

[dense violet]

fandom has been out of date for a couple years

[valid epoch]

I cut my building short: from belnders to refineries, the oil is poured directly into a few power plants, not nearly enough power for a single particle accelerator

[versed mesa]

I am assuming yous dont know when update will drop on public branch

[valid epoch]

I could switch to nuclear

[hard wolf]

if you use all of the oil in the blue crater you'll be able to scale it up to rocket fuel fairly easily because there's nitrogen nearby. I'm just now getting into nuclear because I crashed my power grid for the first time since setting my turbofuel plant up there

[nimble marlin]

anyone has an estimate on when 1.2 will be released?

[cursive crane]

Fandom is a horrible wiki to use. Use wiki.gg dont use fandom.

Besides the fact that wiki.gg is the official wiki for SF

[hushed thistle]

Ik it’s not anytime soon but anyone have a rough idea when 1.2 might be coming to console?

[dense violet]

months

[dense violet]

keep up to date with #announcements @inner urchin

[meager fern]

it has the same info, so i guess its not that inaccurate

although i guess that mostly goes for cobalt's message telling me its been out of date for a couple of years, which in that context would seem to be saying that its not correct information

[hushed thistle]

Ok I’ll try read a bit more

[hushed thistle]

Nvm can’t go to much up bc I was already at Christmas announcements😭

[tall lantern]

they're more saying keep an eye out for future posts, since that's where it'll be

[hushed thistle]

Yea I know

[strange vortex]

137H in satisfactory isnt much?

[meager fern]

if you mean hours, then no it isnt much. i only have 106 hours, and im not where near good at the game

[cursive crane]

Its a lot more than that, its run by a greedy company and a ton of other stuff. Some games have requested to have their wikis taken down entirely and they refuse to

[reef basin]

Well, given that it's in their T&C, they have full right to not do that

"We" agreed with that whem we made SF wiki on there

[obsidian zodiac]

good morning yall

[hard wolf]

I'm working on my nuclear power plant and I'm looking at 540 OC'd water extractors

also good morning x.x

[glass grove]

Place them under the Power plants if possible is a lot more space efficient

[hard wolf]

I will if I can find the space 😩

[glass grove]

Where is your power plant?

[hard wolf]

I'm going to build it in the swamp. I'm working it out in modeler atm

[oak hinge]

Does anyone know how many different items there are?

[reef basin]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/codex/items

maybe not all, but depends how accurate info you need

[oak hinge]

That seems good enough, thanks

[hard wolf]

make a few = 2/m
make a bit = 5/m
make some = 10/m
make a lot = 30/m
make an incredulous amount = ?

tier 0

• cable (make a lot)
• concrete (make like 8 depots worth, 1920/m)
• iron plates (make a lot)
• iron rods (make a lot)
• reinforced iron plates (make a lot)
• screws (only used to make the awesome shop)
• wire (make a lot)

tier 2

• copper sheets (make a lot)
• modular frames (make a lot)
• rotors (make a lot) (done)

tier 3

• steel beam (make a lot)
• steel pipe (make some)

tier 4

• encased industrial beams (make a lot)
• motors (make some)

tier 5

• plastic (240/m and input it to 2 depots)
• rubber (make a bit)

tier 6

• computers (make a bit)
• heavy modular frames (make a bit)

tier 7

• alclad aluminum sheets (make a lot)
• aluminum casings (make some)
• radio control units (make a bit)
• supercomputers (make a bit)

tier 8

• cooling systems (make a bit)
• fused modular frame (make a bit)
• turbo motors (make a bit)

tier 9

• ficsite trigons (make a lot)
• neural quantum processors (make 1/m)
• time crystal (make a lot)
• superposition oscillators (make 1/m)

mam

• ai limiters (make a bit)
• crystal oscillators (make a bit)
• high-speed connectors (make a bit)
• quickwire (make a bit)
• reanimated sam (make 1/m)
• sam fluctuator (make a bit)
• silica (make a bit)
• synthetic power shards (make a bit)

ammo & comsumables:

• gas filters (make a bit)
• iodine infused filters (make a bit)
• nobelisks (make a bit)
• nuke nobelisks (make a bit, maybe offsite?)
• homing ammo (make a bit)
• turbo ammo (make a bit)
• ionized fuel (make a bit)

52 depots (8 for concrete & 2 for plastic)

[oak hinge]

I'm trying to make a storage system

[leaden turret]

[wall of text is wall of text]

[hard wolf]

true, but I've already gone through the pain of figuring this out. might as well share 😔

also once you've gotten synthetic power shards and mk3 miners I would bump make a few up to 10 and adjust everything else accordingly

[oak hinge]

Yeah im just makign a storage for now

Im gonna handle production separately

[stark blade]

in tier 9
make 1/m
why make 1
when you can make more?

[glass grove]

Interesting, but the only items where I noticed running out of them were Concrete(2 Depots) and Wire (1 Depot)

[stark blade]

and i cant seem to find the forbidden pasta on there either :/

[hard wolf]

wire I don't need a ton of and plastic I need a lot of bc I make a lot of coated concrete blocks

[oak hinge]

Also id say you dont need to make that much of most stuff, you can get away with making way less concrete for example, you just need a big ass buffer

[hard wolf]

it's not used to build anything, so it's not on there

[stark blade]

oh is everything on that list building meterials?

[hard wolf]

I need both :( the goal is to not have any downtime

[hard wolf]

yeah

[stark blade]

i thought you were naming every item and how mutch to make XD

[hard wolf]

this is a mall to depot list

[oak hinge]

Youre not gonna be using 1920 concrete / min through your playthrough so building less is OK

Just need a bigass buffer

[stark blade]

well
you would think so
it is suprising how fast blueprint spamming 6x6 concrete slabs drains your concrete supply

[hard wolf]

I mean 1000 would probably work but I've been building 5x5 bp's of it and I run through it really fast. the goal is for it to fill faster than I can use it more so than having enough

[oak hinge]

That sounds like you dont have a big enough buffer

[stark blade]

the point to be proven:

[oak hinge]

Im well aware, my point is you can just solve that by making a huge ass buffer, you dont need to make a shit ton of concrete a minute

Its not worth the effort to bring in more limestone from elsewhere for it

[hard wolf]

but am I making 1920 per minute or feeding 1920/m into the buffer? 🤔

[stark blade]

true
however i found it benifital to save at least 1 pure limestone node for concrete just for the buffer if you are the kinda guy to spam living shit tones of concrete

[oak hinge]

Oh yeah

[stark blade]

its what i did :)

[oak hinge]

Im saying dont bother bringing in extra limestone or anything lmao

[stark blade]

just saying u aint need like 20,000 per min just for building

[oak hinge]

Also floors take barely any concrete

Compared to walls

[stark blade]

u n l e s s

[stark blade]

oh dear god-

[oak hinge]

If you build walls with actual designs they eat SO MUCH CONCRETE its UNBELIEVABLE

Walls are the reason i need like actual steel production for my building needs xD

[glass grove]

The problem is uploading speed with 5x5 Faundations and coated concrete you need 125 Concrete with the bluprint building mode you can build one per second 125x60=6150 concrete used at max

[oak hinge]

Ok but youre not going to be building 1 a second of those for your playthrough is my point

So you can buffer up concrete in a big storage overtime and then when you need it its all there

[stark blade]

true

[stark blade]

but there are mutiple times where you will do this

[oak hinge]

Yes ofc

And the buffer will be constantly filling xD

But ye uh let me show a wall design i like

[hard wolf]

unless :3c #screenshots message

[stark blade]

dear god meli

u spammin a lotta concrete

[glass grove]

I have infinite zoop i can build 2500/7 Foundations at once

[stark blade]

also that looks realy good :D

[stark blade]

but vanilia is good to yk

[hard wolf]

(it's supposed to be black but I set the concrete color to white so it's easier to work on at night)

[hard wolf]

thanks ^-^ I have to build a few more buildings and finish the main entrance x.x

infinite zoop is cool but I haven't finished the main game yet

so no mods

I have to build the nuclear plant first and apparently using 100% of the uranium ore w/mk3 miners fully overclocked is expensive :|

[stark blade]

i will admit
i havent finished my first playthough either
however mods would be cool
unfortunitialy the pc i use for satisfactory is not mine :/

[oak hinge]

But yeah the issue with walls is that if you use 1m walls or esp if you use diagonal walls the amount of concrete you need just explodes

[lyric zodiac]

I've started a new save to get the ball rolling before the 1.2 patch drops - how do you lot deal with the decision paralysis caused by wanting to build a permanent base?

I'm still in the "this will all get torn down once I start the real base" stage. I'm at the early stages, about to set up my first coal power build and transition out of using plant matter for fuel lmao

[hard wolf]

which I would if there were coated concrete walls :c

[leaden turret]

build the permanent base later

that's future you's problem.

[oak hinge]

I like to build at least a basic storage as soon as i have smart splitters and industrial storage containers unlocked

Well, and signs but those are easy

Its SO MUCH nicer to work with everything when you have a storage where you can just dump everything in your inventory and it gets sorted and overflow gets trashed

You can actually go explore and have your inventory just be full of crap, and it wont take a billion hours to sort when you come back

[lyric zodiac]

I'm basically rushing dimensional storage and coal power - then looking to work on the things I'll need like you've mentioned, to start planning out 'the base'.

[oak hinge]

Yeah dimensional storage is nice, its not super necessary early on IMO but it is SUPER nice for exploration

[hard wolf]

especially the manual depot uploader upgrade

[latent prawn]

I haven't been using it much for exploring in order to keep the inventory list there clean

[oak hinge]

That's fair

I like it for exploration because with exploration you end up with a billion items that you have like less than one stack of lmao

[latent prawn]

what is really useful is sticking stuff like ammo and jetpack fuel in there

[oak hinge]

Which is perfect for dimensional storage

[lyric zodiac]

Yeah that's a fair point, though I do really like having the ability to chuck things into the dimensional storage whilst traveling

like animal parts, random doodads from crash sites and such

[oak hinge]

For me its not as important anymore since i got a mod that adds inventory slot progression into different phases of the game, so i just have a ton of inventory slots now, but its still VERY nice

[latent prawn]

one little trick i've found while exploring is that often you can boil down a lot of drops you've gathered by handcrafting HMF's if you have pipe in the dim depot

[lyric zodiac]

Oh that's nice - Yeah I may have to look into that, though I've not gotten many of the upgrades from the MAM for storage yet

[oak hinge]

Yea i mean the mod i have adds a total of 500 slots so the MAM upgrades arent doing a lot in comparison to that

[reef basin]

imo inventory slots are overrated once you get depots

[lyric zodiac]

Nothing like a nice balanced mod to smooth out the experience, aye?

Talk about Tardis storage pocket

[latent prawn]

that extra inventory space upgrade really becomes unnecessary with the dimensional depots

[lyric zodiac]

Do mods disable achievements by the way?

[oak hinge]

I got it for two reasons, mostly i got it because i also play with a mod that adds bigger blueprint builders, since i really love decorating builds, but i also like making big builds

[spice patio]

No, unless the mod intentionally does it itself.

[lyric zodiac]

Oh, that's nice - Might have to take a peak

[oak hinge]

So the only solutions to that are either build without blueprints, or design the thing, and then dice it up to fit the blueprint machines that exist in vanilla

I used to do the latter of those two, but it got old really quick due to weird ass alignment issues with different foundation supports etc

[latent prawn]

the bigger bp mod is nice. there's a few larger builds i like to bp

[oak hinge]

But because i do that, i often end up with blueprints that have too many materials for me to physically fit into my inventory even with dimensional depots fully upgraded

So i need the extra inventory space to build blueprints

[latent prawn]

fitting 900 rubber/plastic into a 10x10 bp saves a lot of building!

[lyric zodiac]

By any chance are these mods obviously named? I've just come from playing Starfield and some of the mods that are really cool, add nice ship parts or just incredibly helpful QoL features are called bs names like "Jeffries helpful mod 12"

[oak hinge]

Oh these are much easier

Additional 500 Inventory Slots is the inventory mod, FICSIT Blueprints Extensions is the blueprint mod

The blueprint extensions are lategame btw

Theyre in phase 5

[latent prawn]

the other one i'm a fan of is 'zippier' which raises the speed cap on ziplines

[oak hinge]

The inventory slots are spread through the phases

[lyric zodiac]

[oak hinge]

But the big ones are in phase 4

[lyric zodiac]

now that's a mod I can get behind

any other "can't live without" QoL mods?

[oak hinge]

The other reason i like the added inventory slots, esp in not super lategame, is because it makes exploration so much more bearable

You can just pick stuff up

[latent prawn]

not really, but some of the curve building mods are pretty nice

[lyric zodiac]

Yeah that's fair

[oak hinge]

Construction preferences is SO NICE

It allows you to automatically build mk2 or mk3 powerpoles or wall power outlets when you just use a wire from a machine

Instead of defaulting to mk1 every time

[latent prawn]

the devs in this game did such a good job with the construction ui to make it humane to use

[lyric zodiac]

I'm probably too new at the game to appreciate why that would be annoying

[latent prawn]

imho, it often goes a bit underappreciated

[oak hinge]

It also allows you to do things like set your conveyor pole preference

You can either automatically have it build a stacking pole instead of the default, or a self-destructing pole which removes itself immediately

[lyric zodiac]

I remember playing the game a few years back and being put off by how clunky the controls and building features felt - but comparing it to how it plays now, they've done a really good job at removing the friction from the building gameplay

[oak hinge]

Same with pipes and hypertubes

[latent prawn]

the one thing I do wish we had was like an area delete bulldozer tool

[lyric zodiac]

That's great, again, just removes that little bit of annoying friction you might not notice, but definitely have to deal with

[oak hinge]

Also allows you to set max wire / pipe / conveyor / lift distances etc

[lyric zodiac]

isn't that... a bit OP?

[oak hinge]

Yeah its an actual godsend when youre designing more complex stuff

Not really

Wire is the only one that might be considered a bit OP

But like what's the difference between building 5 straight conveyors back to back and one super long one?

[lyric zodiac]

I guess it just reduces the amount of break points in a chain

[lyric zodiac]

Yeah that's fair

[dense violet]

plus if you build too long a belt it can hard lock the the save and burn it. Perfection

[oak hinge]

Yeah i mean it allows you to set the max distances xD

[lyric zodiac]

and I'm a solo player anyway, who am I'm having an unfair advantage over even if it does change the gameplay alot

[oak hinge]

The defaults are all vanilla

I personally dont use those settings

Mostly because i havent needed to

I like to build conveyor belt support towers every once in a while anyway

But yea the power pole, wall pole, conveyor pole, and pipe pole preferences are an actual lifesaver in some builds

[lyric zodiac]

Yeah, that's the biggest thing I'm stuck figuring out with my first bigger build of this play-through, I've got a terrible eye correcting weird floaty buildings

[oak hinge]

Oh infinite nudge, i forgot about that

Lets you nudge stuff infinitely, its SO GOOD

You dont have to build scaffholding just to be able to nudge a thing into place anymore

[glass grove]

And you can build stuff Upside-down

[lyric zodiac]

Oh man, the modding available in this game now is insane

I love this! All the architecture and buildables mods look great

[leaden turret]

-# the internet is a series of jeffries tubes

[lyric zodiac]

Ah classic, typical UK problems - "This content is not viewable in your region"

How balanced is Refined Power, does anyone know? Those solar panels would look awesome in my Dunes base

[cursive topaz]

Do we have any idea when 1.2 is gonna come out of experimental

[leaden turret]

imgur links on the mod directory?

[leaden turret]

a little over a month ago

oh, of.

misread as on

[cursive topaz]

lol

[leaden turret]

last EXP patch due tomorrow

so unless it arrives on fire, would be guessing mid-may

[cursive topaz]

I just heard about the daisy chain caterium upgrade

And I need it for my style of factory design

[oak hinge]

What is that? xD

[dense violet]

you can just link machines to each other directly. It doesn't look as good as designing around the cagles though

[oak hinge]

Wdym link machines to each other directly?

[glass grove]

Like lamps

[dense violet]

power cables

[oak hinge]

Oh like power

Yeah ok that is very nice

Was never a fan of not being able to do that for some machines, especially coal / fuel generators

[twilit flint]

Was about time it was added honestly.

[dense violet]

its great, you delete one cable you cut power to everything on the chain instead of just 1 machine

[oak hinge]

I mean that was already the case

[dense violet]

no? you could delete 1 cable from the machine to hte pole and only that machine stopped getting power

[oak hinge]

Yeah or you could accidentally delete the cable between two poles and itd cut everything too xD

[dense violet]

its not about accidental, is about purposeful choice.

[oak hinge]

I mean the machines literally have an on off switch right?

[dense violet]

like relying on rail for power connections.
if you ever do any edits of the rail, you bring your whole grid down

[oak hinge]

That depends on how you design your system tbf

I rely on rail for power but my rail network isnt structured like a tree, its a network, so editing any one part never cuts power anywhere

[glass grove]

Thats why i Use Roads Rails and Power Towers

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac I think people are awake enough / have had enough coughcoffee to be social now

-# apparently my brain has not had enough coffee to stop thinking phonetically

[oak hinge]

Making your power grid not a tree is the way to go for SURE

[lyric zodiac]

I'm only 1 coffee in, perhaps my brain isn't braining yet, but what's the difference?

[oak hinge]

A tree is a graph that doesnt contain loops

So if you cut an edge from it, it gets partitioned

So in practice that means if you cut a wire, you necessarily disconnect some part of the grid from power

Whereas with a network you have loops, so if you cut a wire, you likely actually wont lose power to any machines

Since you dont actually cut the network into multiple parts

[lyric zodiac]

Ah I see, so a base might end up being networked, but your satellite factories are connected by a tree

[oak hinge]

I connect my satellite factories in a network as well

I never have a rail connection going in just one direction from a satellite

It always connects to at least two other satellites

That helps a lot with train traffic, and it also means i can edit my rail network wherever without cutting power to anything

[latent prawn]

i've always found that when i start using a rail network to distribute power, everything turns into a bit of a mess

[sleek flower]

spagetthi factory ftw

[lyric zodiac]

Yeah I've never built a rail network, I'm just never sure how to start

[latent prawn]

it is a big project to do. I like to start with figuring out where the stations will go and then building the rails to connect them. There's quite a learning curve in figuring out how to get trains in and out of a station, so start small, and leave yourself a lot of space

[lyric zodiac]

When I think about needing a rail network, I usually hit a point of "well if I'm doing a rail network, I should leave space for a train station beneath my factory so I have station input room" and I just get a bit lost in the head-planning of it all

[latent prawn]

understandable

[lyric zodiac]

Yeah it's pretty clear, given that I never bother starting one - that my approach is not helping 😄

[latent prawn]

you might want to hit the easy button on it and just build your rails in the sky

[lyric zodiac]

Yeah I think I fall into the trap of "do it once, do it right" and I just don't know enough about how it's done to achieve that from the off

[latent prawn]

another thing is pick a small targetted goal like delivering from x to y over a modest distance

[lyric zodiac]

Who doesn't love tonnes of floating trains and resources travelling through the air 😄

[latent prawn]

the first leg of track is always the worst to build

[lyric zodiac]

Fortunately, I have a decent amount of train network planning experience from Factorio, but taking it 3D is definitely a challenge

[latent prawn]

my first project is often running a railway down the canyon to serve as a backbone

stations in this game cannot be an afterthought. the space they take and the fact that rails need space to turn makes laying down your stations paramount

[lyric zodiac]

Fortunately, resources are infinite, so moving stations once they're down shouldn't be such an issue, like it is in factorio

[twilit flint]

It works the same but you need to have specific order of wagons and/or stops for specific resources. no filters sadly

unless you offload and then sort it

[lyric zodiac]

Interesting, I take it that there's no mod for that?

[twilit flint]

I'm only aware of dynamic train routes mod.

[celest timber]

hello, can i get the achievement for completing the onboarding process if i've skipped the onboarding when creating my save?

[latent prawn]

you can set filters to have trains cherry pick items out of mixed loads. the options for it can be twiddled in the timetable's station options

[twilit flint]

Eventually its full of x item that is 100% of the cargo though unless you spend it all / offload it all

[latent prawn]

well, there isn't an option that requires you to plan how to use it before using it 😉

[twilit flint]

Yeah what I meant by that is, if your input location you have iron as the 6th wagon and your offsite needs only iron and nothing from wagons 1-5.. you need to build 6 platform station to get the iron off. Honestly barely even bothered with trains due to how clunky it feels in this game

[latent prawn]

i've used it before to double up low volume items in stations to save space

my tact with that is that if i'm doing that, i split every item between every car

[twilit flint]

Yeah im just mad how satisfactory does trains and blueprints. I'm biased angry

[latent prawn]

imho trains could use some love and new features. one of my big criticisms of the game is that trains need to be less time consuming to build

they're a lot nicer than they once were, but some concerted focus on making rail building quicker would be good

[lyric zodiac]

I would imagine if you've skipped the onboarding that you have already done it before?

[celest timber]

well, yeah - in early access, before achievements were added

just asking if it should pop after completing some specific tier or if i have to make a new save

[lyric zodiac]

Ahhh, yeah that makes sense

[lyric zodiac]

I believe you'll have to make a new save to just get the achievement, then go back to the save you're on

A quick browse on reddit seems to suggest that what I've said is true, though it should only take half an hour or so to complete the onboarding requirements @celest timber

[glacial totem]

low activity level? this chat is always poppin by my standards

[rich parrot]

You could always make blueprints for rail segments. Those can speed up rail building a lot.

[latent prawn]

you give up a lot of control when doing so

[rich parrot]

Straight bit, couple different curves, slopes, etc.

[rich parrot]

How so?

[latent prawn]

not being able to turn when you need to, etc

[rich parrot]

That's what a blueprint set is for. If you have a 30 degree, 60 degree and 90 degree turn BP, slope start, end and extension, and couple swerves, you will always have a good bit for any situation.

Then you only need to polish every part once to perfection, and then start applying them to make a rail grid.

[dense violet]

you're better off making custom turns for custom situations most of the time instead of relying on sub par angles

[normal orbit]

thats a limitation in how you made the blueprints in that case

[rich parrot]

I prefer using BPs generally, and custom turns when absolutely necessary. Even then I usually end up doing a new BP, in case I need that turn elsewhere.

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message doing something like this would let you make a curve anywhere at any radius

[lyric zodiac]

Factorio rail grid blueprints are a godsend, I expect the same is true for this game

[reef basin]

eh, you can't really fit big parts into blueprints in SF and it's usually better to make custom intersections anyway

[rich parrot]

You can make a four-way junction in the mk2 designer, so if you want to BP those, you have to unlock that first. The mk1 BP designer is a bit too small.

[dense violet]

not really, you have to deal with a bunch of different terrains and angles

[rich parrot]

Although, you can make a junction in multiple parts with mk1 designer and then just hook up rail bits. It is not much more burdensome.

[verbal elbow]

umm when does 1.2 come out of experimental guys?

[willow pond]

once it's fully cooked and safe for consumption

[leaden turret]

☝️

[verbal elbow]

ooh

[hard ivy]

3-6 months usually

[dense violet]

that patch is coming out 8 months fomr now though

[ivory condor]

Next year actually

[ornate saffron]

The truth is none of us know. Likely before the summer break but it could be fall

[cold berry]

I've done it again. I've made another save. This is the one I'll win on :p I have a restarting problem with this game lol

I've gotten to halfway through phase 4 tho, so I've played most of the game

Just basically have to do the quantum shit. Which I have an obsession with IRL so I'm glad it's the last tier

[torpid estuary]

Hi, wasn't there a comparison of alt recipes in the wiki? Each recipe was assigned a score based on power usage, resources, space requirements, etc.

I can't seem to find it on the .gg wiki

[low current]

I'm with you on the restart-itis. I get overwhelmed right around the time steel first unlocks, usually because I can't find both coal and iron in the same place, so I start over. Next restart I might try to find a Steel Zone first & set up camp there to begin with.

[supple canopy]

There used to be a breakdown of each alt recipe on the old wiki I think, but not on the new one because alt recipe tier lists are for the most part just trying to save on rarer ressources, which leads new players who will never use more than 20% of any ressources to keep away from stellar recipes

there is one very documented reddit post that tiers alt recipes too, but again all of the ones they put in tier F and outstanding like instant scrap or leached ingots

[torpid estuary]

wait, I can't post links to the old wiki?

that is lame

https :// satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Computer#Alternate_recipes_analysis is what I mean, for instance

Weighted Point is the weighted consumption rate which is calculated by: (resource consumption rate / maximum extraction rate) * 10,000. The lower the better.
That's what I was referring to as score

which specifically avoids the whole tier list issue

[reef basin]

yeah, to prevent sharing it so that less people get caught in reading old wiki without realising it§s outdated

[dense violet]

tier lists are essentially garbage in any case, as you can't really define strict 'quality' to recipes anyway since it's always depending on so many factors they can't put in

[reef basin]

there was, and it was very much subjective and misleading. The problem is that you cannot tier recipes like that, nor make any reasonable comparison algorithm/valuation for it.

[viral tendon]

Why does my friend who bought the game yesterday has the golden helmet and other early access stuff? Didn't 1.0 end early access?

[dense violet]

if you go by some tier list you may as well just roll a dice to choose recipes

[torpid estuary]

I am not talking about a tier list

Why does everyone think I am talking about a tier list 😭

[abstract heron]

i want to ping mikael and jason but idk if i should i think they working

[dense violet]

anything past basic ingots isn't very good to compare recipes either - since you don't know what previous recipes are being used for what

[reef basin]

and what are you talking about? I was talking both about tier list and any other "comparing" of recipes

[dense violet]

if you want the most basic break down look with your eyeballs and see what each recipe resources get used

it's pretty easy to see when they exchange 1 item for another

[supple canopy]

they often lead to tier lists. But I remember that page, it would describe every single alt recipe. But it would also say "you should avoid rubber concrete because oil is too precious to put in something as trivial as concrete"

[dense violet]

and that's very silly if you have abunch of oil around you're not using

[torpid estuary]

I was specifically talking about the weighted points thing the old wiki had. Yes, defining a scalar ordering is sort of equivalent to a tier list BUT that table holding the weighted points score also details space requirement, resources, power, etc.

so it avoids the worst pitfalls of tier lists

[reef basin]

the weighted point system is very much flawed

[torpid estuary]

is it really that bad?

[reef basin]

yes

[dense violet]

yes? it also can't tell you actual weights since it doesn't know the recipes you used to get to the point you're looking at in the first place

also - it's based on someone ELSE's value of resources

[torpid estuary]

I think as a rough guide it's kinda neat

[supple canopy]

yes, you'll get instant scrap, which is one of only two options to get the most aluminum ingots in the game, as tier F

[south sinew]

in order to be useful at minimum you would have to compute the weighted points of the whole system

[dense violet]

Well it's entirely possible to make a world factory that uses almost zero crystal

or one that uses every drop of crystal on the map

how do you place the values there?

[torpid estuary]

I think you and me are talking about two different things

[reef basin]

one example for all:

because iron wire was at that point more weighted-resource efficient than basic wire, ANY recipe chain that ever used wire at any point got inflated building count because of iron wire's slow crafting speed. (and also changed copper for iron)

The problem is that weighted system is fine for comparing two recipe chains (from raw resources to final product), but you cannot assign a value to a single step (because that assumes previous steps have been done in a specific way)

[supple canopy]

yes sorry I'm always back to tier lists because that particular post used weighted points system and THEN converted it into a tier list

[reef basin]

wiki didn't have a tier list afaik

[torpid estuary]

ok fair enough

[rough shore]

not fair

[supple canopy]

but basically my point is, for my first 1000 hours of gameplay, I stayed away from like 60 to 70% of alt recipes simply because I read on the wiki that oil and bauxite were the most precious things. One day I used coated iron plates because I had an excess of plastic, and my world just collapsed. It was so good, so efficient

[rough shore]

ok mr playtime flex 🙄

[dense violet]

if you want a reasonable personal analysis of recipes I recommend using this planner, then swaping recipes in and out to see the impact along the whole chain and see if it suits you 🙂 https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

only takes seconds to alter the whole entire plan and you can make multiple tabs to compare side by side if need be

[torpid estuary]

I am using the Satisfactory Modeler on Steam for this

[supple canopy]

oh boy

wrong person to say that to

[dense violet]

yup it's one of the terrible flaws of it that you can't just swap out recipes to change the plan and test 🙂

[rough shore]

be ready to get a 1 thousand word essay about it being bad

[torpid estuary]

that is true

lol

I can just make multiple recipe graphs next to each other, select those nodes and look at the numbers

[dense violet]

yes but you have to make all of those manually

[viral tendon]

Did you like not beat the game in 1000 hours?

[reef basin]

(in Tools you can do that in 10 seconds)

[supple canopy]

not in 2500 hours* no

[rough shore]

beating the game doesnt mean u cant play/it ended tho

[viral tendon]

Holy fucking shit

[dense violet]

and then compare them side by side

[torpid estuary]

I kind of like that about the modeler

tools just throws huge forms at me all at once

[dense violet]

I mean if you want to spend an hour doing what you could in 10 seconds

[torpid estuary]

I don't think I need an hour for that

[supple canopy]

Tools is for the math, Modeler an organizer is how I see it

[leaden turret]

-# tear list:

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[torpid estuary]

also you can just route everything you don't care about in an outpost so it's whatever

[leaden turret]

that was meant to be a reply

[reef basin]

use what you like 🙂 I just suggested alternative, but if it doesn't fit you, ofc no harm in not following my recommendation 😉

[torpid estuary]

it is a great suggestion, thank you. And I might use tools for this specific purpose, actually

I'm just saying, so far I used the modeler for that and it was ok. They are all free tools, I don't expect stellar levels of usability either way

[civic ore]

Oil sucks ass

I used to be able to hop and and smash out some shit quick now I gotta fucking spend 30 minutes checking recipes

[reef basin]

that's the game for ya, not just oil

you can use base recipes and not care about anything, or you can spend time looking for the perfect combination that suits your specific situation. Both playstyles are equally viable 😉

[reef basin]

for sure. They each do something different.

imo (very subjective opinion 😛 ) Tools are great for quickly checking recipe chains and math and stuff like that. Because it calculates the whole thing at once, it's super fast and simple to just change one recipe and see the result (and it also uses the weighted resources you mentioned above to optimise resource usage, though not everyone obviously has same preferences, it's a decent optimisation goal imo)

Modeler is imo better for fine-tuning your production, grouping machines and general "floor planning" (though not exactly floor planning)

[verbal elbow]

i am not recording any vechile tracks before 1.2 😭

[rough shore]

then go experimental

[cold berry]

My big hurdles are aluminum and learning new logistics tricks. I did it, and I went "I can do this better", and now I am starting over again.

But my reinforced plate and rotor factory setup is sick this time. And I'm setting up a hell of an iron ingot-depot (on the 4 iron nodes on the cliffs between that great coal plant spot in the Rocky desert and the forest. In the northwest of the forest)

[supple canopy]

you can though, the conversion of truck paths is rather easy

[orchid drift]

I’m sorry I’ve just joined and I’m trying to join my ps friend whilst I’m on Xbox for the first time and we have eachother added on epic and I still can’t see his game after he’s put it on multiplayer what do I do

[cold berry]

#1038092680493801533

[orchid drift]

Thanks

[cold berry]

No prob

Wrong reply message but y'all get it

[rough shore]

i dont

[supple canopy]

it's cleary a problem if he can't see his friend even though their both on epic?

[orchid drift]

I don’t know what to do because I bought the game ages ago and my friend had it before aswell so we js want to play

Is there a known fix or?

[ornate saffron]

Im going to miss recording tracks. It allows you just to let factory carts zoom around without stations

[ornate saffron]

@orchid drift I see lots of people having cross play issues, I dont know what to root is or how to how to fix it.

Your best bet is the QA site as they want all bug reports (and fixes) there so they can. Be found.

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @ornate saffron

[verbal elbow]

Yeah ik but it’s tedious at some points

[vernal vortex]

Is there a reason to use carts instead trains?

[rough shore]

what

[orchid drift]

That’s really annoying the devs aren’t doing anything to fix it

Is it just like out of laziness or like it’s basically unfixable?

Bc I’m seeing qa’s from when crossplay was created there was issues

[reef basin]

it can be either, or anything in between

together with the fact that they are working on 1.2, they most likely have a priority list of things to do, and voting on QA site affects that list, if an issue is voted a lot, it has more chance to be considered

[ornate saffron]

I have a friend record mine..... I can't drive lol

[ornate saffron]

They don't need fuel or infrastructure. So I use them to move phase parts to the space elevator

[ornate saffron]

For consoles there is a lot of barriers. Microsoft and Sony only allow "meaningful" updates. There is also the fact they worked with another team for the port.

When 2.0 comes out console will likely get a monster bug fix update.

@orchid drift your frustration is valid. I do push you to explain your experience on the QA site so they can try and replicate it

[vernal vortex]

so they are better for short distance?

[orchid drift]

Yeah no I will when I get time to make an account and stuff but I only recently got the game after waiting a while for games like it so finding stuff out like this on a game that’s so highly rated is so disappointing

[ornate saffron]

Short, long whatever. Its phase parts you are often waiting so in my mind it doesn't matter how long it takes the cart to get there. While I wait ill decorate and wxplore

[cold berry]

That was too the thank you for pointing him the right direction lol

The earlier no prob

[gritty zealot]

hi factory people, ive been building my factory for 10 months now with 540 hours, and i estimate it will take me 2 years to finish phase 3, can somebody compare their time and progress? im really curious to see how fast people can play this game

[fluid sapphire]

1300 hours, just started phase 5

[dense violet]

that's an extreme amount of time on one phase. Especially since the milestones are basically a tutorial. But if you're having fun you do you

[gritty zealot]

incredible, good luck.

[gritty zealot]

following safety protocol isnt a light task!

[fluid sapphire]

i imagine i will "finish" in a few months

not that i am planning on stopping

[void crescent]

Yo i'm new

[dense violet]

Not sure what you mean by 'safety protocols' but if you're enjoying things it's fine

[fluid sapphire]

if you are building in a very meticulous style its understandable

still, some shortcuts can help to progress faster

[gritty zealot]

i do everything while following guidelines, like placing fences and fire exit signs in all buildings, along with proper walkways etc etc

[dense violet]

fair enough. The game doesn't really start until you unlock everything though

[gritty zealot]

dont worry, im having the time of my life

[gritty zealot]

WHAAAAAAT

[pale yoke]

is there a channel where I can find another player to start a new playthrough?

[void crescent]

Is your pfp from made in abyss

[fluid sapphire]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[drifting barn]

This a mobile game?

[lean fossil]

i feel like we should ALL make mini factories with a power switch so that we NEVER have to craft a SINGL-
no its not am obile game

[gritty zealot]

certainly is

[fluid sapphire]

no lol?

[void crescent]

No, console and pc

[pale yoke]

thank you kind stranger

[verbal elbow]

my friend is new to the game and my other friend is occupied with life so i kind of do most of the stuff

[drifting barn]

RIP

Bye

[void crescent]

That's cute. Should i watch it

[fluid sapphire]

imagine a phone trying to run this

[dense violet]

the phases themselves are not hard to do , you can create the sloppiest of factories and finish them.
Its more like minecraft, phase 5 is the ender dragon

[gritty zealot]

absolutely, and dont forget the manga!

[drifting barn]

Idk I saw someone with the tag and read what game was about and it sounded good

[vernal vortex]

Prepare for a wholesome anime

[dense violet]

it's very good

[gritty zealot]

interesting, but i rather take my time, its about the journey not the destination

[dense violet]

yes, you just described a sandbox game

[void crescent]

I've heard the total opposite so ty for trying to be nice XD

[fluid sapphire]

it is, a phone would explode trying to run this game though

[vernal vortex]

ill rewatch it once i finish mha

[pale yoke]

@fluid sapphire sorry for the ping, is it allowed to ask for fellow spanish users in lfg? like making a post in spanish

[fluid sapphire]

i imagine people look for other people speaking the same language often, the server is generally english only as per the rules, not that i am any sort of enforcer

[pale yoke]

well, you're the fastest one to answer

thank you

[lean fossil]

black flash.

[gritty zealot]

i joked to a friend that i might have kids so they can carry on and finish my satisfactory save, which is looking more realistic every time i have to produce a new item

[fluid sapphire]

i would advise keeping your post in english

[void crescent]

What kind of playtroughare you doing

[fluid sapphire]

they kind of playthrough where everything is super meticulously placed it looks like hehhehh

[void crescent]

I love that

I just started my 3rd playthrough

1st was getting to learn the game and have fun
2nd was for the achievements
3rd is going to be insanely big and planned

[gritty zealot]

i didnt even know there was different playthrough styles

so i cant answer that

[fluid sapphire]

the amount of effort you can put into just about anything is a pretty wide spectrum so

i half-wing it myself, everything is like this, keeps me moving

#screenshots message

not detailed but not floating platform either

[placid stirrup]

They're probably asking if there's any self-imposed challenges or if you're deviating from just 'get factories up and progress'

[fluid sapphire]

i tried doing more at one point, it just got too slow

[gritty zealot]

beautiful

[fluid sapphire]

thanks, i saw your one screenshot, a lot more going on there

[gritty zealot]

in that case, im just playing the game normally

[gritty zealot]

my screenshot??

i have screenshots???

oh yes i do

[young hound]

can dropped items despawn?

[fluid sapphire]

nop, they stay down forever

[young hound]

wow thats both good and bad

[fluid sapphire]

whats bad about it

if you want something gone, just drag it to the trash in your inventory instead of littering

[weary condor]

Also having crap on the ground really isnt that resource intensive

Especially since the graphic quality for dropped items is one of the first things thats throttled when you’re having frame issues

[fluid sapphire]

haha yeah you would have to try super super hard for it to have any performance impact

[void crescent]

Are you talking about waste? Ficsit does not waste

[young hound]

i do not waste radioactive waste gng

if i could make them with uranium i would

[lyric zodiac]

Always worth checking out Satisfactory Plus if you're looking for more content, that overhaul looks kind of interesting!

[void crescent]

Wdym

[fluid sapphire]

whats that got to do with anything

[void crescent]

Fr

[lyric zodiac]

I thought I was replying to something else, nevermind - just came into the chat and scrolled past a few hundred messages

[void crescent]

Lol

[gloomy pasture]

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[young hound]

like when i drop something because im out of inventory or smth and completely forget about it

[fluid sapphire]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[young hound]

like theyre gonna sit there forever lowering my game performance even a tiny bit

[void crescent]

Nee

[gloomy pasture]

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[gloomy pasture]

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[void crescent]

How far are you

[gloomy pasture]

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[grave cove]

Is there a quick keybind to access blueprint build page ?

[void crescent]

first time playing

[gloomy pasture]

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[void crescent]

ahh, yea lemme see the rat tail factories hehehe

[gloomy pasture]

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[void crescent]

nah just open up ur server'

[gloomy pasture]

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[civic ore]

How to end a train block without creating another past the actual wanted block?

[gloomy pasture]

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[fluid sapphire]

not sure what you are trying to achieve?

[civic ore]

I’ve got a train intersection I’m trying to add blockers too but it’s also blocking the entire track path past the intersection so instead of it just blocking the intersection from being used by multiple trains it’s blocking the entire train line

[fluid sapphire]

i dont get it, just place down another block signal?

[gloomy pasture]

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[void crescent]

when you're in your game, go to server manager and make a serrver

[fluid sapphire]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[civic ore]

That just creates another block zone ad infinity

[gloomy pasture]

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[fluid sapphire]

ok, and you keep breaking that up into more blocks until its all blocked off, thats how you signal rail?

can you post an image or something, i am not sure i understand the problem

once you place down a signal, you have to signal your entire network

you cant just signal an intersection and leave the rest of the rail unsignaled

[civic ore]

So you HAVE to have blockers for the entire network as soon as you have the first intersection? This is my first time getting use to the train system

[fluid sapphire]

yes

otherwise the trains dont know if a block is free or not

[civic ore]

Damn okay I assumed blockers started and ended instead of turning the entire network into a block area

[fluid sapphire]

a "block" is the area between two signals

[gloomy pasture]

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[fluid sapphire]

a single train can occupy that at any given point (if purely block signals), the only way to have multiple trains on your network is to have multiple blocks

[fluid sapphire]

a block only ends by being followed up with another block signal

[civic ore]

I thought when I was setting up blocks I was setting up actual “block zones” I didn’t realise that it actually turns the entire network into blocks and then you have to manage them instead. Thanks for clearing that up

[fluid sapphire]

yeah you cant really isolate a signaled section from the network given the nature of how they work

[civic ore]

Right no wonder you were confused because this was precisely what i was asking “how do i do this”

[fluid sapphire]

it took me a minute to get it xd

[void crescent]

Ficsit

[split trench]

Could you or anyone share link to some of the Q&A sites with console multiplayer connectivity issues ?

[supple canopy]

yea ik, I was teasing you 🤓

[supple canopy]

2500 hours, never finished the game, made my very first permanent turbomotor factory last month, doing my first permanent nuclear pp

but I'm likely going to take a break because my computer has been shutting down by itself even on cold temps so I need to figure out where the issue comes from first 🥀

[gritty zealot]

i dont even know what a turbomotor is yet, stand proud, you are a pioneer

[supple canopy]

it's a normal engine but you blow very hard in the intake manifold with a straw

for optimal stoichiometry

[gritty zealot]

[gloomy pasture]

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[reef basin]

we have a channel for this

[gloomy pasture]

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[reef basin]

you have been linked that one two times already

[gloomy pasture]

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[supple canopy]

yea but look at his name

[rough shore]

thats crazy

[fierce matrix]

Quick question. how the hell do people angle concrete beams?

saw a build on reddit using 45 degree angled concrete pillars

[warped crane]

to be fair their name is ADHD

also hi greeny!

[jaunty birch]

he

[mossy moon]

Press R when building a beam. Then you can snap other things like pillars at angles

[magic sun]

Is there someone who can help me with trains my head hurts because of this

[green fiber]

Signals?

[magic sun]

Yes

[green fiber]

Classic

search #1038092680493801533 and you will find more than enough similar themes

Or, if needed, make a post there yourself with images

Thats the best way to get help

[magic sun]

Thx

[mossy moon]

There's tons o lf video tutorials too that can help

[wicked yew]

For the peeps that's tried 1.2 experimental, how wide is the universal vehicle path and is the truck paths the same width?
One foundation wide or what?
Trying to future proof my roads now whilst I wait for the full release on console where my save is

[mortal ginkgo]

I think universal and truck are same

[ornate saffron]

this is what i remember from my limited testing

[hollow hazel]

@fiery stratus #screenshots message
Why don't you want a machine to build you an infinite number of miners so you can build as many as you want without having to pull out an Equipment Workshop and hammer one together yourself?

[wicked yew]

Sweet and for the second part of my question, how wide is it?
I was hoping 2 foundations would be wide enough for 2 trucks to run on

[ornate saffron]

Every recipe has a use case. Just because a Pioneer doesnt see it doesnt mean it doesn't exist

[mortal ginkgo]

I think that is the case. If that wasn't, I would get yellow roads but they are blue.

[wicked yew]

Sweet so my roads will be future proof, thanks

[ornate saffron]

I make my roads three foundations wide flanked by Half foundations for sidewalks. I likt this as it allow me to paint a dotted line doen the center and straight lines down the sides. In the end i suggest playing around with it. You may come across a Novel solution ^_^\

[fiery stratus]

Brother. I just want a better way to Craft screws🥀

[reef basin]

get alternate steel rod

[fiery stratus]

if it would be that easy

[reef basin]

just get all the recipes 😉

[fiery stratus]

Nah

[ornate saffron]

ingot- rod - screw is one of the best ways in the game.

even late game to minimize you input and maximize you output youll want steel rods or alum rods

[fiery stratus]

Yeah, it would've be good if i'd even get this from 30 discs i came back with

[weary condor]

Im madly in love with cast screws, personally

[ornate saffron]

Remember you can place a mam anywhere start research then disassemble it ^_^

[ornate saffron]

great if your goal is compact builds ^_^

[weary condor]

Best I can tell the ingot to bolt ratio is same and I hate the extra step with rods

[void crescent]

nah the screws from metal beams are goated

[weary condor]

Not a compact build by any means, just tryna save space where I have the option😅

[clear aspen]

I feel so smart right now

[ornate saffron]

Im okay with big builds. Just more factory to look back on and feel satisfactory about ^_^

[clear aspen]

Hello beefalo

[weary condor]

Im just trying to minimize my sky platforms tbh

[ornate saffron]

hey hey

[clear aspen]

You should look in #off-topic-media rq

[ornate saffron]

fair, I'm forcing myself to decorate before changing phases. This is has been great for planning adn spacing

[weary condor]

Issue is I needed to get to steel for some decor💔

[ornate saffron]

I use SOOOOO much steel. Im at 500 /min of steel beams

for personal use

[fiery root]

I am so ready destroying a second oasis for lore coal power

[weary condor]

I only have like 30 a min for personal lmao

[ornate saffron]

vanilla no modifiers ?

[weary condor]

Doubt its gonna be enough once I move from the automation to the decor for this smart plating factory

[fiery root]

Yes

[ornate saffron]

Industrial frameworf and Brutalism are my to favorite build styles so i just went all out in personal production

[ornate saffron]

are you far from phase 3/

[weary condor]

Im doing 100x, gonna have to use p much my entire coal bandwidth to automate enough smart plating to finish the goal in 33 hours :/

Wish I had overflow sorters for pipes😔

I suppose once I get oil I could do that by packaging…

[ornate saffron]

sounds like you have a lot of time to build out personal resources and decorate ^)^

[fiery root]

Kind of
I didn't automate rotors or modular frames earlier so i did that before i am doing a chain of one of the fancy things

[reef basin]

given that pipes are bidirectional, it's not really possible to have a buildable for it (and work reasonably)

but you can just make vertical pipe and as pipes fill from bottom to top, the vertical pipe will fill later

[ornate saffron]

Fuel power is such a great boost to power. I often try to hold out for it. But if you cant wait Oasis Coal is a thing ^_^

[fiery root]

I mean my factory is demanding it
And i already drohen my way there to build it up

[weary condor]

The idea is I have a coal node going to a truck station, then when the fuel storage is full, the coal is used for power

Which now that I say it out loud sounds like a great way to kill my power grid

[reef basin]

that's just... smart splitter?

[weary condor]

Yeah but I want the power draw from pumps to be constant

[reef basin]

and yeah, I wouldn't mix power and other productions

[weary condor]

Just because straight lines

[reef basin]

eh, get used to not seeing straight lines

[weary condor]

Sometimes I have to say it out loud to realize smh

[mortal ginkgo]

you need to reverse this thinking

power gets it all first, remaining is given to factories

[weary condor]

This early game I like to keep em straight

When I get to later machines/trains its unavoidable ofc but🤷

[reef basin]

production? sure
consumption? not really practical

when you get to first sink it's unavoidable lol

[weary condor]

Meaning..?

Is their a power difference for sinking items vs plugged in but not sinking items?

[reef basin]

sinks don't consume power 24/7, only when actively sinking

[teal trellis]

how do you steer hypertubes? is it not a and d?

at junctions

[weary condor]

Yeah but with overflow sinks once they start sinking they dont stop for a long time

[reef basin]

so if you have sink overflow on your storages, you already won't have flat line

[ornate saffron]

I usually cap my Coal Generators at 32 then i hit Fuel. Honestly Coal power is the only thing i consistantly destroy every playthrough takign the coal for other production such as ||diamonds|| or steel

[reef basin]

until you take stuff from storage 🙂 which happens pretty often

[weary condor]

Yeah but its still flat when I need it to be (IE, finish a factory, checking its all balanced properly)

[reef basin]

I mean yeah, it's your choice, just saying that it's not really much useful to have flat line and if it's problematic in any way, I'd just ignore it

[fiery root]

How valid are ||truck ways|| early on? I built one because i unlocked them
The way i did it is really inefficient, but i have the feeling it is cooler then conveyors

[fluid sapphire]

E to switch direction, segment before the junction should give you a prompt

[reef basin]

well, if you're looking for just "efficiency" meaning "cost of transport", then nothing beats belts, as they have no "upkeep" cost (no power, no fuel).

All of the other transport modes cost power or fuel, but can provide other advantages over belts, whether you like it or not is up to you

[weary condor]

100% agree, I just prefer to balance my inputs/outputs (either manifolding or load balancing) and straight line power graph comes as an inherent result of that

[fluid sapphire]

Late game machines have variable draw though?

[weary condor]

^

[fluid sapphire]

But I do the same, straight where it can be

Within the subgrid of each factory that doesn't need those machine

[empty shoal]

hi, could someone help me with some game settings for like 3 mins if they have the time?

[grave cove]

If i have a blueprint with rails going from min to max length, if I place both blueprints side by side, will the rails actually be connected or will it just be only visually touching ?

[weary condor]

Wsp

[weary condor]

A chain link icon will show up if they actually connect, you may need to use a certain blueprint placement mode to achieve this

[grave cove]

Well my game crashed when trying to place them side by side

Is it known the game dont like you placing / removing blueprints in a short period of time ?

[weary condor]

Are you on experimental or nah?

[empty shoal]

hi, im looking for a good seed to start on, if someone has any recomendations. something that has at least 1 of each relativly close by. and the 3 starting resources clsoe to each other. i also need some help with recomendations on what multipliers i should try for a hard but fun challage. iv compleated the game 2 times before.

[grave cove]

I am

[violet glen]

wtf I misread how much water those nuclear reactors guzzle up. I'll need 5 extractors per reactor if I plan to overclock them oO

[empty shoal]

on 1.2. i dont rly want to screw with power consumption settigns and and other 2 seem to get out of hand very quickly so i dont want to overdoo it. i also plan to paly with all nodes set to pure

[grave cove]

Oh wow yeah I was in the wrong build mode, now i see the chain link icon

[weary condor]

I play 100x space elevator parts and everything else normal. Don’t see a point in randomizing ore nodes if what you’re looking for sounds like the base node layout. Also if we want to continue talking about experimental we should do so in #satisfactory-experimental

Power consumption increase just seems meh

[violet glen]

It's not too bad imo, makes power an actual problem, not something you just overkill once, and then never care about again.

[weary condor]

I like overkilling it once and never caring about it again tho..

[empty shoal]

is recipe part consumption worth tweeking? or does it just mess up math and make late game stuff imposible

[bronze loom]

just started playing this game and I am absolutely addicted. Set up my first manifold lanes for ores/smelting. What are the optimal configurations for constructors? I currently have 16 smelters producing iron, want to match the speed to produce screws (alt craft). Will replicate for plates and rods.

[weary condor]

#satisfactory-experimental

[slim frost]

14 hours to go, and im finished with phase2 .. all settings hard.. im at 600 hours gametime 😄

[teal trellis]

crap. i go like mach 5 so im gonna have to force peope down the right way

reversed branches

[violet glen]

I'd recommend not to mass produce screws just cause, but what you need for your desired output

[bronze loom]

but I need screws for reinforced iron plates or is using copper wire more optimal?

[violet glen]

You do need them, but this is not Factorio where you main bus other items. Doesn't really work here

[gritty thorn]

just finished factorio, any tips before i play satisfactory?

im downloading it rn

[bronze loom]

never played factorio, please explain lol

[violet glen]

Mostly cause of the unholy amount of screws you need, so producing them on-demand exactly where they're needed is usually what you do

[gritty thorn]

and how many hours does it take to 100% satisfactory

[violet glen]

"Main Bus" is just the normal way of playing Factorio, where you have a Belt-Bus of all items, and take and put onto/from it as you go

In Satisfactory, recipes tend to need so many screws that the concept would just overwhelm your belts

[eager scaffold]

factorio also has massive machine downtimes early to midgame a bus can easily work while in satisfactory everything is 1:1 with almost 0 downtime

[bronze loom]

is it not recommened I turn ingots to screws then belt into further crafting recipes? still learning so apologies for the noob questions lol

[eager scaffold]

though a bus miht still work that would be like putting copper cable into the main bus if u were to bus screws bery inefficient

[violet glen]

Of course you do that, but you don't typically make a "screw factory"

you look at the desired output, i.e. ref iron plates, and build a factory for that, for the desired parts/minute you want

then you can start looking at recipes, potential alt recipes, and needed inputs and intermediate steps

[bronze loom]

ohh so I should start at the final desired output and build accordingly for my desired output? that makes a hell of a lot of sense lol

[violet glen]

yeah

[bronze loom]

what is a good way to plan out my production, the satisfactory-calculator?

[violet glen]

of course those parts also eventually become inputs for other parts, so you can either plan production capacity ahead of time with that in mind, or just accept that you'll build many more ref iron plate factories as part of larger factories later on

[fluid sapphire]

this one is better
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[violet glen]

1.0 sounds outdated?

[fluid sapphire]

no, nothing changed with 1.1

i think he keeps it the same not to kill links that are already out there

[verbal elbow]

did they remove the MAM hard drive secret?

[bronze loom]

so for needs of lots of iron, would I use multiple miners/ore deposits and merge them based on the amount of iron needed to produce the output?

[violet glen]

if you need more than one node can provide, you eventually merge something

rarely the ore itself, more commonly the products, or produce different ones from different nodes

you can set it up however you like

in the end, whatever works works

[bronze loom]

awesome, appreciate the help and advice! all I think about is this game now lol first time ever playing a factory game like this (fps player)

[fluid sapphire]

protip though: keep some separation in your lines, e.g if you need iron plates, and later need reinforced plates, its usually a good idea to build a new plate production for the reinforced plates, separate from your old plate production

[violet glen]

miners will also keep getting better as you progress

so it's not like a node is ever "done" in the early and mid game

[fluid sapphire]

there is also no shortage of resouces, you dont really need to worry about squeezing the max out of every node, you can often just go elsewhere and build anew

[violet glen]

By the time you worry about the resource output of the whole world, you probably know what you're doing well enough

[fluid sapphire]

absolutely

[violet glen]

ngl, I wouldn't mind Satisfactory on a procedurally generated map

[fluid sapphire]

never gonna happen

[violet glen]

Import Satisfactory into No Mans Sky

[fluid sapphire]

super fucking weird occurrence just now, a train waiting at an intersection for no reason whatsoever after running without problems for a couple dozen hours, i have not touched the signaling anywhere nearby

caused a holdup with like 10 trains

[violet glen]

Did they just all finally align with their round trip times shifting constantly?

[fluid sapphire]

no, the train was just sitting and causing traffic behind it

its path was free, it just didnt move

[violet glen]

strike simulator

[fluid sapphire]

the aligment would not be an issue whatsoever

i disabled self-driving and then turned it back on, and it started moving

doesnt make any sense

[fierce granite]

i had that happen a long time ago, i rebuilt the tracks in the area, didn't happen again

[pearl owl]

im guessing my issue is me having a potato pc but whenever I explore and make it like a certain distance away from my hub my fps drops to like 3-5 and I have to save and leave and rejoin im not sure if there's anything i can do to fix this hopign someone knows smth

[eager scaffold]

how about a 2nd map after they finish the first one, even though that would kinda break lore

[violet glen]

would it? Don't wanna talk too much about the lore outside of spoilers, but I feel like it'd work perfectly.

[fluid sapphire]

hmm, there are a lot of tracks, itd be a lot of work to rebuild

[sullen shuttle]

@hollow imp hey check DM's please

[rigid wedge]

does anyone have some more screenshots from the background in the 1.2 launch window?

[fluid sapphire]

usually they fall off pretty easily, this one manages to hold on, quite impressive

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