satisfactory

[civic ore]

Distance is 2,200 and it’s compacted coal

Never used trains like this before so I genuinely have no idea what to expect

[wise junco]

what's the stack size? 100?

[civic ore]

Yeah 100

[wise junco]

i would say unrealistic - more carriages or more trains on the route

basically 5 minutes and change (maybe less? just estimating) will fill up the station, and the one freight car won't carry an entire station's worth. so i would say split it up somehow. if youve already built it all, just do 2 trains alternating. if you haven't, i'd probably do 2-3 carriages

[dense violet]

time the trip, see how long it is, that's the real info you need

what mk belt do you have?

[wise junco]

also, if you dont know, you'll need to buffer the station

[civic ore]

4, so 480

[dense violet]

let me guess, mk4?

[civic ore]

Ahaha yep

[dense violet]

it's physically impossible to run 2 belts per platform

of any speed (as long as it's your fastest)

[wise junco]

👀 why is that?

[dense violet]

because trains lock out loading and unloading when docked

[civic ore]

Yeah please elaborate

[wise junco]

buffering would get you close, though, right? or not quite?

[civic ore]

Wait so you can never get max bet speed on one belt?

[dense violet]

nope. buffering doesn't save that because there's always time it's locked out

[wise junco]

oh, wait, i understand

yeah it can't "catch up" after the lockout

[dense violet]

1 belt is pretty easy depending on your return trip time

generally up to mk5 belts, most people's train return times are often ok with doing 1 belt per platform. It's a rough rule of thumb, But you should still time things to make sure

a full mk6 belt will usually need 2 cars, just because they fill up so fast

[wise junco]

if you split a mk6 into two freight platforms, won't you have the same problem if they're both exporting 600/min? how do you transport a full mk6 effectively with trains?

[civic ore]

Right so I’ve added buffer so hopefully that’ll help the input

Ima gonna let it run abit so I can check if I’m hitting max production with it now

[vague briar]

so do we know when the update is?

[wise junco]

no

[worn oar]

Probably a few months away

[feral vector]

lol if I do all the phase 4 stuff in one planner it wants 122 constructors worth of iron wire XD

[worn oar]

Yeah it uses 4x as much iron

[feral vector]

it still wants 91.5 constructors if I use the default wire recipe jeez

I mean I'm forcing it to use steel rotors too cause I can't be assed with making tons of screws

[dense violet]

no because you'll only be moving 600 parts per platform

now you could do 1x full mk6 belt on a platform if you run more than 1 train doing the route.

[wise junco]

ahhh, that makes sense. the belts can still manage. i got you

[civic ore]

This is my first ever train intersection, could I have help with how to setup the blockers to avoid crashes?

Different colours shows path of the two trains

#screenshots message

[sudden tide]

it would be interesting to have "Water evaporator" a building thatt would vaporize leftover water.. cuz packaging it into sink is crazy waste of plastic

[civic ore]

Also for all. It would seem fitting for the games messaging to be able to just burn off all the heavy fuel residue. Who gives a fuck bout the environment

[sudden tide]

i mean u can easily turn it into fuel that'd go to gen giving extra free power..

but yeah leftover liquids is a problem

[gusty junco]

use wet concrete or any pure recipe so you dont waste plastic

[hard wolf]

ficsit does not waste

[plucky bone]

Finally I have a nice set up. Took a while but I got some storage and steel so far.

[dense violet]

why are yuo packaging it?

[sage mango]

Can u rent a server and play it on xbox or is it only for PC that u can rent a server and play it

[tranquil mason]

hey uh

i just got mk3 conveyers and when i merge a 120pm iron ore setup with a 60pm setup it just clogs

[dense violet]

you likely have a small bit of low mk belt somewhere

or you're just not using it all

[tranquil mason]

i looked but i just cant find

[dense violet]

also in general, just process each node of ore on it's own, overclock miners nad you usually fill the belt

[tranquil mason]

dont send several ore node outputs to one station?

[dense violet]

delete al lthe belts connecting mergers/splitters

if you build them directly on belts you often have hidden bits of low mk belt

[tulip berry]

I love gambling with hard drives

[tranquil mason]

also, i made a foundry making steel and its seemingly not taking the all the 60pm iron ore im giving it

[sage mango]

Can u rent a server and play it on xbox or is it only for PC that u can rent a server and play it

[tulip berry]

well doesnt a foundry only take 45 per minute

or do u have it over clocked?

[tranquil mason]

overclocked

[tulip berry]

🤔

[tranquil mason]

its quite odd

[tulip berry]

send me a picture of the build rq

[tranquil mason]

wait i may of partially fixed it

[tulip berry]

oh

[tranquil mason]

but ye

il send

[dense violet]

are you sinking the results?

because if the outputs get clogged it won't run at 100%

[tranquil mason]

its not clogged

also my merger manifold

its clogged a lil, do u reccomend it

yet it does say its running at 100percent efficenct

[dense violet]

analyse your system by if your lights on the machines flicker yellow, that indicates stalls

don't trust the meters or belts

[tranquil mason]

ight

also, would you reccomend a central storage complex

[dense violet]

not really.

[tranquil mason]

ok

regional storage?

[dense violet]

once you get hyper tubes yo ucan hit a few storage containers pretty quickly

[tulip berry]

you can make a central storage complex like im doing but its not really worth it

[dense violet]

ok if you want ot make them because it's fun?
sure
but practical terms they'll take more time to build and design than you'll ever save from hitting one spot

[tulip berry]

im doing it cause it looks cool

[tranquil mason]

ok

so late game?

[dense violet]

even less later

[tulip berry]

cause then you get teleporters

[dense violet]

also treat the milestones like a tutorial
the phases are more like the ender dragon in minecraft

[tranquil mason]

😭

[tulip berry]

you arent late game until youve finished all the phases

[dense violet]

the game is largely a sandbox 😛 you do your own projects

[tranquil mason]

so its okay if it take awhile to beat a phase

[tulip berry]

yes

im on my second world after beating the game on my first one cause i didnt like it and ive been on complete phase 4 for almost 200 hours now

im a perfectionist

[dense violet]

do it however you like. 🙂

[tulip berry]

The game is meant to be played how you see fit

[tranquil mason]

k

[cursive topaz]

I have produced my first modular engine

And it’s automated

Mostly it’s extremely un optimized, and I’m missing a decent chunk of machines to make any decent progress quickly

[bleak mica]

Man I just got to nuclear power, took me good 20 hours from unlocking the milestone to first rod in the reactor, although I'm producing a tad too many of them for my current needs.
Literally re-learned the game in the process

[mossy cedar]

Guys where is the power switch naming button?

the button ui is disappeared

[fiery root]

Fellas
At what point is it smart going to a modular factory system? Like not doing everything at point A
Asap? As soon as i got good conveyors/vehicles?

[next ivy]

as soon as you run out of material at your starting location

usually at or some time after getting t2 miners

[fiery root]

Aye thank ya!

[worn oar]

IMO when you need things from two different areas (more than 500M apart)

Meaning oil or earlier

[polar tapir]

does anyone have a blueprint for a iron factory that crafts anything that has iron in it?

[timid rune]

well.. many things can be crafted by iron

you can technically craft modular engines with only iron

[polar tapir]

yeah i want a factory that has every recipe if there is one

[timid rune]

it really depends on what alt receipes you are using

say if you want to craft modular engines with only iron (+rubber): one way to do it is to have stitched iron plate + iron pipe + steel rotor alt

that way you only need wire + steel pipe + iron plate as immediate products from iron ingot

[timid rune]

don't think that exists unfortunately

[polar tapir]

i found one

[dense violet]

wdym you want a factory with every recipe?

[reef basin]

ah the "pay 100000 iron ore for one rotor" way

[smoky flame]

If you want to rotate a hologram not 90 degrees on a foundation, is there a way or mod?

[dense violet]

rotate the foundation first, place it, replace the foundation

the whole point of foundations is placing them on the snap points

[reef basin]

always

[gray mauve]

hello guys is the 1.2 update released or only in beta?

[reef basin]

it's in experimental

[gray mauve]

did you know when it will be on stable?

ah thank you

[dense violet]

#announcements

[leaden matrix]

Man the staple of realizing how much your wasting in satisfactory is going into your awesome sink and seeing you're wasting like 150k points of material a minute😭

[fathom pier]

i am waiting for 1.2 stable to start my playthrough

[oblique aspen]

all resources go into a sink eventually - or burned in a power plant. Where else would they go. Storage is full eventually, the space elevator is done eventually ... give it enough time, only the sink eats forever. 😄

[plush trellis]

Is there a way you can easily swap between explosives?

[uneven path]

Hold R to bring up the radial menu, you can select them from there

[plush trellis]

Xbox

[uneven path]

Probably the same thing, just with whatever button you use to reload

[torpid estuary]

ok whoever said the belt auto connect feature is an equivalent replacement for what SMART mod does is just completely wrong

it's nowhere near close to the functionality of SMART 🙁

[cold berry]

My first sink will be a supercomputer I found in this run. Funny

The crash sites sure are something

(my megafactory attempt just makes me sad because I like to plan things so I started over again. At least I made a cool power plant that run lol)

[spiral summit]

ada says i live in a society

is this a jonkler reference

[reef basin]

Can play on ex for now

[rigid wedge]

Why can’t we get sulfur from crude oil?

[dense violet]

you kinda can but have to make rocket fuel first that will give you compact coal

which is partially made of sulfur

[rough shore]

but its not sulfur

[dense violet]

it's made with sulfur 😄

[rigid wedge]

I’ll check that but what I meant is why you don’t just get from desulfurization directly

From the crude oil

[reef basin]

because you can get sulfur directly from nodes

[dense violet]

nope! so sulfur in this planet's petroleum

apparently

[rigid wedge]

I feel like it’s skipping a few too many steps at once

Tho if I’m using the packaged diluted fuel recipe I might aswell just use that for my trucks

[cold berry]

This game is factory fantasy, not factory realism

I like my sulfur as a weird chalky crystal (?)

[uncut quail]

There are so many sulfur nodes tho

[leaden matrix]

Ohmyfuckinggodguys
No matter how far I get into this game my biggest issue is copper is too far away😭

[reef basin]

build at copper then

[rigid wedge]

I wish

[reef basin]

there are

[uncut quail]

I went crazy on prod late game
And i dont even use half sulfur nodes

[leaden matrix]

I didnt think about that like 15 hours ago </3

[uncut quail]

Big long convoyer
Ez 👀

Then train or drone ig

[leaden matrix]

They carry me so hard rn
Ik belt highways lowkey suck but they're just so easy

[rigid wedge]

theres more bauxite veins than sulfur veins

[reef basin]

it's also needed way more than sulfur, so yeah

[uncut quail]

I always played with conveyor then jump on drones
And didn't had much issue 🤷‍♂️

[leaden matrix]

And the long pillars up to my platform have a very neat esthetic to it

[rigid wedge]

I just finished laying my vehicle path across the half map

[reef basin]

wouldn't recommend building busses

[flint swift]

Where can I find SAM? I've gotten samples of the other two "anamolous materials" but no SAM yet

[rigid wedge]

as long as the fuel lasts long enough im gucci

[uncut quail]

When you check for alu
You need so much more bauxite than sulfur haha

[uncut quail]

You are able to scan it in later tiers in phase 4 i think ?
Otherwise , its up to you to find some during exploration

[leaden matrix]

Too close for trains to be worth it
Too close for drones worth it
Too far for belt highway to be convient
Just far enough for me to want to reload my save and cry

[uncut quail]

Its never too far for bus

[cold berry]

I went forest, looked over off the cliff I settled at, and went "ah shit. That's where I put my main oil and coal production last time." So I'm going to be playing a remix of a previous run because I'm approaching the cave-mouth coal area from the forest instead of the desert. I like the fact that it's the same map for that reason. It was like the Spider-Man glasses meme when I realized I've already been here lol

[reef basin]

ummm... "conveyor bus" isn't a replacement for trains or anything

a bus is when you build centralised belts that carry all resources and you split them to machines and merge back products

I assume you mean just "stack of belts"

[uncut quail]

Ye they meant long conveyor af

[reef basin]

yeah that's not a bus

[cold berry]

That there is a belt highway

Very different you see

[leaden matrix]

Never said that, trust

[uncut quail]

But ye just use long conveyor to transport copper ore 'ear your base
Or build near copper directly
If for you its too close to use drone or trains

Doesn't take long to build one max tier belt ( depending on your tier/phase) to transport the ore near your base tbh

[cold berry]

I like to Build factories around big node clusters, and use trucks to bring in local nodes. But that's a hassle for aesthetic

[latent prawn]

there's a two option that fill that gap 1) a mixed-load truck, which has some problems involving unmixing the load on output, and 2) a bussing train. if you use a single-rail bidirectional train in a controlled manner, it can also be a bit of a middle ground

i find the latter effective in large builds like aluminum with its antecedants or in nuclear

[leaden matrix]

Oh shit I totally forgot about bidirectional trains

[latent prawn]

yeah, it isn't often the right solution, but something for the toolbox

if you're belt count is above 4-5, i think it is a pretty viable option

[leaden matrix]

The beauty of games like satisfactory is there will never be a right solution

There is only a tool box :D

[latent prawn]

understanding what all is in the toolbox lets you build better

bidi trains are often simpler to lay down and actually make a really nice backbone for a sprawling factory

i went to college near Bethlehem Steel's main plant, and seeing them do such things in real life is really a thing.

[fluid sapphire]

Embrace the truck

[ornate saffron]

Embrace the truck cart

[fluid sapphire]

Indoors, sure

[leaden matrix]

Truck of doom and despair*

[fluid sapphire]

Whats that mean

[exotic frigate]

planning factory layouts is a special kind of hell

[leaden matrix]

-# I dont like trucks

[exotic frigate]

maybe it's the fact that im not planning at all and winging it

[leaden matrix]

Not doing it when you should've is nearly as bad as planning them though

[fluid sapphire]

Yeah? Why not

[leaden matrix]

Not pretty :<
And kinda slow
And they need fuel

[exotic frigate]

fuel for trucks is like- the biggest headache for me :(

its why i dont use them yet :P

[rough shore]

fuel for trucks is easier done than said

[sly gazelle]

do anybody know when will be 1.2 released?

[exotic frigate]

no

soon™

[south sinew]

probably not that long now

I'm waiting for 1.2 before doing my next playthrouogh

[white dawn]

Honestly even just plain ol' coal is often good enough

[leaden matrix]

Like
For drones they're pretty and pretty fast
Fuel can be a headache sometimes but its made up for by the other 2

For trains they're pretty, and kinda sorta fast (it depends)
But they take no fuel and even though I hate setting them up its made up for by whats mentioned

Its all up to personnel choice though

[leaden matrix]

What's 1.2 adding? I havent checked yet

[rough shore]

non flying vehicles

[white dawn]

Though once you have packaged fuel built up you'll be unlikely to need anything else. Can have a specific fuel-delivery route or two if that's convenient

[south sinew]

#announcements message

[exotic frigate]

i wish you could choose what animation to play with the coffee cup based on how long you press left click

[ornate saffron]

I wish you could spill it all over yourself

[ornate saffron]

Planning really does help.

[worn oar]

I wish you could throw it in a space giraffe tick penguin thing's face

[simple pebble]

Put the walls on first and find that you don't have the space
Put the walls on last and find that they don't fit properly at all

This is the curse of factory layout planning

[ornate saffron]

Choosing your shape and placing the walls before machines really restricts the space you have. It can be fun though

[earnest condor]

Walls should always be last.

[simple pebble]

Yeah. I think it's the better approach, you just need to be really meticulous

[fluid sapphire]

It's fun but you need some experience with layouts already to do it well

[earnest condor]

?

[worn oar]

I wish there were an easy way to definitively say "these machines require this many foundations" so I can plan floor layouts at a glance

[sterile blade]

If I have the chance, I tend to prefer leaving myself "more" space rather than "less".
It's often easier to fill up empty spaces with decor, walkways or by moving logistics rather than trying to fit something in a cramped space

[fluid sapphire]

There is, it's called experience

[earnest condor]

I feel like I have a completely alien approach to building compared to what you guys are describing.

[sterile blade]

I don't place them side-by-side, so my machines often equal an integer amount of foundations :P

Eg: 1 Refinery every 2x2 foundations

[worn oar]

Cool snide comment but also not what I'm saying

[leaden matrix]

Yooooo thats sick dude

[leaden matrix]

Open factory that looks like a circuit board >

[fluid sapphire]

Not sure what kind of system you're imagining given how many ways you can lay stuff out

[leaden matrix]

Go measure all of the different structures and then put them in a Google doc, and post it in reddit for the world to use
-# pretty please

[simple pebble]

I'm not saying place every single wall first. But determining exact shape, blueprints, placing walls that interact with logistics and pioneer walkways etc first really pays off.

You just also need to calculate machine and logistics space, too.

The trap is that if you aren't just building a box and thinking about walls from the beginning, it will bite you

[dawn path]

whats an efficient way to make a "trainyard" for a megabase?
should i divide each station into one production line, or should i have really long trains feeding multiple production lines?

[sturdy mural]

anyone knows if you can still check out and play the old versions of satisfactory?

[exotic frigate]

for me, i place buildings in a somewhat defiend space, then try to figure out how to belt everything around

[south sinew]

Easiest is to measure them by the blueprint, the blueprint designer is of a fixed size and you know how many machines you're fitting in each one

[sturdy mural]

like how factorio has old versions on its site for you to download

[earnest condor]

How plan:

• Select location based on what item will be constructed there.
• Lay out Foundations to maximum allowable area in location.
• Place first floor machines to see actual needed area.
• Rearrange machines until happy.
• Trim Foundations down to match machine area.
• Build second floor.
• Rearrange machines until happy.
• Repeat until all floors done.
• Begin beltwork.
• Rearrange machines to accommodate belts better.
• Begin power line work.
• Rearrange machines to accommodate power lines.
• Redo belts to match new machine layout.
• Save game.
• Connect power and bring outpost online.
• Reload save and fix issues that occurred when power was turned on.
• Save game.
• Repeat until no issues.
• Begin detailing work while outpost runs.

[ornate saffron]

I dont think so

[simple pebble]

Yeah it's the lay out maximum space and then trim that screws me if I want nice walls.

Granted, that might be a patience thing with measuring for me

[leaden matrix]

Ive seen people do like 8 different stations with 8 different trains

And some do 1 station with a LOOONG train

But I couldnt tell you which is more efficient, I think it comes down to preference tbh

[fluid sapphire]

You can also figure out the floor space for the first floor as you go as opposed to building it all up front

[simple pebble]

Yeah this is the way

[reef basin]

megabase is not really efficient

[leaden matrix]

Fun > efficiency

[reef basin]

I wouldn't have fun doing extra work for no gain

[dawn path]

only inefficient thing abt a megabase is the load on my PC
i dont mind that
its more fun to do a megabase imo

[earnest condor]

None of my permanent builds contain blueprints because I like them to be unique designs.
So this is not a way for me 😬

[simple pebble]

These aren't conflicting goals and methods at all

[ornate saffron]

I'd start by figuring out what you need. Then you can plan on how many trains you need and how much space you need for buffers

[leaden matrix]

Its about the journey not the destination, the fun is making, planning. And seeing a massive base that covers most resources in the game

[earnest condor]

"Measure by blueprint" is in complete conflict with "never using blueprints" no?

[dawn path]

but is there a difference to having for example 3 trains with MANY wagons each, or multiple trainlines with just a few? (not taking into account distance and potentially extra trains needed for that)

[reef basin]

you can still have massive factories but not do megabase

[earnest condor]

Megabases can be fun.
I personally found that method of building fun about 2 times.

After that I enjoy the challenge and variety of outposting more.

[dawn path]

and you can still have a megabase 🤷

[simple pebble]

You can use blueprints and have completely different styles of factory!

[leaden matrix]

Said it before me ToT

[ornate saffron]

I personally like one train with four or five freight cars carrying one part

[simple pebble]

Every factory I make has its own set of prints

[dawn path]

ill play around with it a bit

[simple pebble]

Often because machines are part of room structure

[earnest condor]

The only things I even could print in final builds are designs that I discover while building and at that point I need to do it only like 8 times so it, to me, isn't worth stopping to make a print I will never use again.

[rough shore]

why make a blueprint when u can just build it frfrfr

[sturdy mural]

no playing EA Patch 0.1 for me then ig 💔

[simple pebble]

Fair! 8 times is already way beyond the threshold where I use a print

[ornate saffron]

I use the blueprinter these days for architecture not machines. If at somepoint I dread placing machines its time to take a break

[leaden matrix]

I personally just have prints for the repetive stuff
Train tracks
Manifolds
Load balancers (I use them for small stuff because they're pretty)
Ect

[simple pebble]

I need to use load balances more, they're great

[simple pebble]

for me it depends on whether I plan on encasing machines in the architecture, or how many I'm placing

[leaden matrix]

They take up a good bit of space but they make up for it in having no spin up time and just looking great

[simple pebble]

but yeah if it's like 4 assemblers I'll just wing it

[fluid sapphire]

Placing a ton of machines and wiring it all up manually can be such a drag, custom building smaller systems is fun though

[ornate saffron]

I use my machines to balance. If I want 12 lanes of x parts. Ill place 12 machines making x parts.

[reef basin]

any nymber of machines can just be winged

[leaden matrix]

Before I made a manifold print I had to place like 100 cast screw constructors and hook them all up

It was after that I decided never to do it again ever

[rough shore]

thats why u just dont use screws 🤷‍♂️

[leaden matrix]

It was also the breaking point for me writing stuff down in my notes app for each factory

[fluid sapphire]

Given how different the spacing is for all the different machines, if you're making a print for manifolds, wouldn't it be easier to also include the machines in the print?

[reef basin]

no, that's why you don't manifold screws

[fluid sapphire]

Since the manifold already sets you into a particular shape anyway

[ornate saffron]

I dont manifold screw outputs. I direct feed them into the machines that need them.

[leaden matrix]

I just love the look of alot of screws, its like, just so pretty for some reason

The dude who streams having an output of like 4 million per minute or smth is so goated

[ornate saffron]

Here i clustered my screws into grouping the assemblers needs

#design-and-architecture message

[cold berry]

I love the yellow lights. I need yellow lights everywhere or I feel not safe you see

[fierce matrix]

havent played in a while, im on experimental rn and my game is stuttering. It was alot worse when i created the world for the first time and has gotten less frequent but it still happens

is this a known issue?

[violet glen]

as in, you just have low FPS?

[fierce matrix]

fps is great, but stutters. So it will randomly just drop

[violet glen]

still probably just your PC being overwhelmed

Experimental runs super smooth for me

[fierce matrix]

Never had this in any of the prior versions / on my older rigs

[ornate saffron]

yellow lights are defualt while in construction mode ^_^

[cold berry]

Try Vulkan?

[mortal ginkgo]

do you have like, TONS of blueprints by any chance?

[cold berry]

It's a different render pipeline

[fierce matrix]

fresh world so 0

[fierce matrix]

good one, ill try that out thanks

[mortal ginkgo]

Damn. One guy's problem was that one.

[fierce matrix]

shouldnt be a spec issue either on a 7800x3d/4080s

[cold berry]

Make sure you tell us if vulkan works. I'm on the knife's edge of my king sized bed waiting. I'm going to fucking explode.

(no pressure)

[fierce matrix]

the stuttering is intermittend so not sure yet. But good so far

[cold berry]

Oh cool

[violet glen]

Vulkan vs. DX12 shouldn't make a different normally

on Windows at least

[fierce matrix]

Normally my games dont stutter either

i dont mind lower fps but stutters are so irritating

[dense violet]

experimental be that way

[violet glen]

Tried the Vulkan backend, and I get like 20-30 fps out of it

compared to stable 160 on DX12

[mortal ginkgo]

It should always either have a pattern or happens exactly when something big happens (sudden load of items, turning around and looking at a massive factory very fast)

[violet glen]

the only stutter I notice is when deconstruction something, it freezes for like a split second

[fierce matrix]

fresh world so theres legit nothing here except a hub. Could be just new locations being loaded in?

[violet glen]

it could just be compiling shaders, and it'll be fine once the cache is built up

[mortal ginkgo]

Could be, but that shouldn't linger and eventually stop happening. Can you try this:

Go to \AppData\Local\FactoryGame\ and delete everything excluding your save folder.

keep a backup of the folder just incase

[spice patio]

There was at least one player who has the latest Windows monthly update causing stutters and low FPS for 1.2 Exp, no idea about 1.1.

[faint willow]

#screenshots message @soft oyster

🎵 Here comes the sun 🎵

[spice patio]

The one that was released last tuesday.

[fierce matrix]

oh there are gonna be alot of saves in there from update 3 till now

[mortal ginkgo]

delete them all but keep only your current save file

[spice patio]

But would need more information to say what might be going on.
Make #1038092680493801533 thread.

[faint willow]

They given any indication on an ETA for 1.2? Been digging around for patch notes, saw a rumor of them adding physics but I wasn't sure.

[south sinew]

if only the most recent announcement was the patch notes #announcements message

[reef basin]

adding physics? we already have those

[faint willow]

The rumor I saw was that floating pipes and foundations would eventually need to have supports to function properly, so no more extending into space

[reef basin]

very much doubt so

[ornate saffron]

1.2 has no real physics changes other then vehicles.

ther is no date for 1.2 yet

[white dawn]

Nah, as far as we know there's no plans for that. Someone did make a mod which adds that, but it's not something CSS is gonna add to the post-1.0 game

[faint willow]

thats good at least, would be kinda nightmarish to load into my save and watch my stairways to heaven crumble into the abyss

[white dawn]

They've continued to hold fast to their intention to not "break" existing saves now that it's out of Early Access. The vehicle rework introduced in v1.2 is about the "riskiest" thing they've done so far

(Which is also why we're not going to be getting more phases/tiers/resources/etc during the 1.x line. Anything that adds that stuff would have to rebalance the map yet again, and they don't want to break existing saves)

(not that saves were ever "broken" in the traditional sense even with Early Access updates -- you could always at least load the save and fix problems -- but some EA updates did move nodes around, change recipes, etc, which could make specific factories stop working)

[whole robin]

Y'all have physics? I'm still waiting to get gravity

[ornate saffron]

pipes use gravity. Foundations dont ^_^

[reef basin]

we have that? you fall down, liquids prefer going down, ...

[whole robin]

Yeah well maybe you guys have all that, but whenever i jump i float off into space and die

[whole robin]

My pipes don't have it either. All the fluids flow up and i have to use pumps to get them to go down

[earnest condor]

Hmmm... Compacted Steel...

[cold berry]

The supercomputer I found on the ground earlier got me 21 tickets as my first sink.

Made me laugh

[earnest condor]

I usually keep stuff like that because there are other HDDs that require higher pieces for unlock, and I think you can open all but one of them purely from stuff you find on the ground around others.

[ornate saffron]

BUILDING THAT OUT RIGHT NOW LOL

[earnest condor]

I get the concept. I like the concept.

My problem is it takes more space because it's only 10/min per machine where Solid is 60 and even baseline is 45.

[ornate saffron]

im using the Compacted coal Byproduct from my rocket fuel

[earnest condor]

If I'm brining in sulfur my expectation (from all other alternates) is "using a 'higher value' supplemental resource saves you space."

This seems to be the exception.

[earnest condor]

I'm doing my initial Steel setup 😄

[brazen nest]

Hello, I played satisfactory last years ago. I want to start it again, do i install the experimental or is the normal fine?

[ornate saffron]

normal is fine ^_^

[brazen nest]

yippie

[earnest condor]

Both are fine tbh.
If you've played before I genuinely recommend Exp because you will want to try out the new trucking system they are adding.

[south sinew]

uh

are saves from Exp guaranteed to remain usable? I think not

[earnest condor]

Exp saves have always been guaranteed to transfer to live client.

[long kestrel]

how do i change the perferred fuelf or my jetback

[earnest condor]

Open your inventory and hover your mouse. Should see a smol gear in the top right.

[ornate saffron]

What Sev said but it has to be equiped

[long kestrel]

does it not take coal

[earnest condor]

Never has, never will.

[ornate saffron]

no

[long kestrel]

crud

[ornate saffron]

Hard biomass is the lowest tier fuel

[earnest condor]

If you managed to get one prior to Phase 3 from Johnny, Solid BF is your only fuel source.

[latent prawn]

yeah, i'm not sure the jetpack with solid biofuel is any improvement over the parachute, lol

[oblique aspen]

its ok in a pinch, but also burns off so fast

[mortal ginkgo]

its amazing for when you just slip up from a foundation and need a very quick boost to go back up

[torpid estuary]

if you haven't already, give process lasso a try. I had great success with it for a different UE 5 game

[tepid spear]

where do I find mycelia for the MAM

[reef basin]

almost everywhere around the map

[tepid spear]

I searched for 20 Minutes in this Gras Biome and I found nothing

[rough shore]

its not a node btw just so we are clear

[mortal ginkgo]

things that are not obvious give them. like mushrooms etc

[cold berry]

Caves often look for big mushrooms outside of them. But that doesn't mean it won't have them either if it doesn't have those outside of I'm pretty sure

[rough shore]

w h a t

[mortal ginkgo]

yes.

[cold berry]

Also, some of the trees near the Rocky desert start area drop mushrooms for some reason

[tepid spear]

ok

[mortal ginkgo]

cactuses, he means, however mushrooms in caves should be good in grass fields

[cold berry]

Particularly in the||oil field|| to the right of the Rocky desert

Cactus yeah

That's the tree that gives mycelium

[empty flame]

Is there a way to move a truck if it got stuck between two rocks, or do I have to make another one

[tepid spear]

yeah I am in a cave ther eare big blue mushrooms

[cold berry]

They're probably in there

Good luck there will be spiders likely

[tepid spear]

ok thanks

[reef basin]

disassemble

[cold berry]

Copying might copy the work orders?

I'm not sure on that one though.

That's LIKE moving the truck :p

[placid stirrup]

If it's stuck, it shouldn't have an auto path. If it does have an auto path and it's stuck, leaving the area so the sim can 'unstuck' itself should occur

[main viper]

Do most people run fly mode and no build cost or does everyone hardcore it?

[fluid sapphire]

I imagine most people play "normally" build cost is a non factor past a certain point and hoverpack already lets you fly

[reef basin]

what is so hardcore about basegame?

[main viper]

Im lazy, dont like walking around. lol

[fluid sapphire]

Progress the game so you don't have to

[main viper]

True. Fair enough.

[fluid sapphire]

Tools exist but the game makes you work for them

[eager scaffold]

i just have a simple portal mod to make my life less painful (even though i have hypertubes), i also have a flight mod that i only use to collect hardrives because i hate them but i walk to collect slugs, sloops and spheres
there is no right or wrong way to play them it just depends on your preference

[torpid estuary]

what's your go to fuel for trucks and such? I used coal for the longest time, and obviously regular fuel is a good candidate but I've been feeding mine turbo fuel now and I could use rocket fuel now but is it worth it?

with the exp update it's stupidly easy to slap down a gas station in the middle of nowhere where they can go and refuel, too, so range isn't even thaaat much of a driving factor anymore

[gray raft]

is there a channel or anything here to join a server to play with ppl

[mortal ginkgo]

they use incredibly low amount of rocketfuel so I would say go for it if you are already producing for your drones

[ornate saffron]

I use whatever is available and does the trick. If i have lots of DPF for power ill just sloop the refineries and spit the excess off for veicles.

[eager scaffold]

#1201555265942724758

[torpid estuary]

oh that sounds great

[fluid sapphire]

I started using drones before I started using trucks, so I set up packaged rocket fuel for that, now it's convenient to just ship it wherever its needed, including stops for trucks

[violet glen]

What do I need to build to prevent creature respawn? Just belts doesn't seem to be enough, but a whole factory seems to be

[fluid sapphire]

I am packaging 300/min and it seems to support a lot of vehicles

[fluid sapphire]

Powered buildings

[mortal ginkgo]

Monsters dont spawn around 40M of a MACHINE that is powered up.

[violet glen]

oh, so it need to be powered on

good to know, thanks

[mortal ginkgo]

One Large Stinger sometimes disagrees with that but I think it REALLY wants me dead. But 99% of the time the rule sticks.

[violet glen]

My Alu base also has a spitter that consistently spawns inside of a huge rock cliff, and spits at me from inside

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah, power poles etc dont count. Only power making machines and production ones (even ones that staying idle and requesting 0.1MW power)

[mortal ginkgo]

There is a story to tell, lesson to learn, event to ponder.

[rough shore]

yk what they say never trust an impure limestone node

[mortal ginkgo]

nobody said, ever.

also reported to authorities for lies and slander

[rough shore]

pengmer said it so 🤷‍♂️

[mortal ginkgo]

jfyi, your days are over

jail guaranteed, gulag fo sho

[rough shore]

😱

[wicked yew]

Hey, can anyone explain how overclocking works on a resource well pressurizer and how it affects the extractors, only just unlocked them and whilst on a creative version of my world, and can't figure out what and how it does for it

[rough shore]

better hide inside a nuclear reactor or something

it overclocks i think

[wicked yew]

Like before and after on a normal node with the resource well extractor, shows 60m³ so what changes

[rough shore]

the overclock percentage changes

[violet glen]

it works pretty much exactly like you expect

if you overclock it to 200%, you get twice the output per minute

[rough shore]

i expect the extractor to start flying

[unkempt blade]

it's the same as any other OC it just gets reflected in the extractor

[hollow mountain]

guys are truck route ez to settup

[rough shore]

MAJOR difference 1.1 or 1.2

like real big

[hollow mountain]

1.1 🙁

[rough shore]

dont bother honestly

if u want to use them for actual functionality no but for fun sure

u might see some futuristic flying tractors but yk

[hollow mountain]

i need them for functionality

[latent prawn]

each tap does 120/60/30 depending on purity. when you overclock, all of the taps go up to the max at 250% of 300/150/75. The readout on the pipe taps is a little buggy at times, reporting the wrong amount if the tap has backed up at all

if you need specific amounts for a few different product lines, i find pushing all the liquid/gas into a packaging loop and splitting it via belt logic a good idea

[lavish mulch]

Does anyone know how to disable the dimensional depot or block people from being able to use it. Im teaching a friend how to play and I dont need them having access to my fully supplied depot.

[rough shore]

just ask them to not use it

[lavish mulch]

That might be hard because my friend is so new that he might use it by accident

[frosty sedge]

He means not have access it's hard to not use makes the game inconvenient

[unkempt blade]

easy yes, a little time consuming also yes

[rough shore]

so yes

[tall lantern]

if you're teaching a friend, why not start a new session from the start so they're not being dropped in partway?

then they can use the actual game tutorial too

[lavish mulch]

Ive covered the basics by starting a new world, but i honestly cant bear starting again

[tall lantern]

could just play your co-op save with friend separately from your solo save

better for them, worse for you, that's always gonna be the tradeoff here

[lavish mulch]

Not a bad idea

I was thinking about playing my main save with another guy who would take my new friend off into the desert to learn and create is own seperate area.

kind of a strange idea

[feral vector]

hmmm how do you guys deal with getting belt/miner upgrades? like I have a little factory processing 480 bauxite / min and now I have mk3 miner and a better belt. I figure I can overclock stuff

or is it a hassle going back and messing with stuff and I can just grab a new bauxite node if I need more aluminum products?

[swift crescent]

1.2 coming to main branch soon? 🙂

[earnest condor]

Overclocking is always good.

[feral vector]

I didn't do a good job keeping track of my usage of various resources now it's getting confusing figuring out what I have left to work with

[earnest condor]

Usually what I have observed from people who know all the belt speeds, is they build for the next belt and then downclock to the current one.

Which, for me, still includes overclocking 😄 Because if I plan for things to run at 250%, I downclock them to... 125%, which is still over 😄

[feral vector]

yeah for sure that would work on a second playthrough but I'm mostly just sending it without looking up how people do stuff (except for tips like how to build a good coal plant early, or how to clock machines to rate limit belts)

[earnest condor]

Then keep sending it!

[feral vector]

lol I'm trying to figure out how to send it

I'll see if I have enough room to overclock

[earnest condor]

If at first you don't succeed!
||You're not Chuck Norris.||

[feral vector]

I think some of the refineries are already at 160 something percent

[feral vector]

rip

[south sinew]

you fail, and the test will be terminated

[earnest condor]

Chuck Norris didn't die, he beat life.

[feral vector]

hmm I need to maintain my satisfactory tools planner tabs better I don't have a really good reference on what materials I have leftover

most of the playthrough I just made what I needed but when I got aluminum I figured I should process a whole node and make extras

idk how much of these sheets and casings I'm using lol

[fluid sapphire]

I'll have to remember to ping you when I figure out my own system for that haha

The tabs in tools don't really provide you with a good way to track that

I have some semblance of a standard syntax for naming stuff but it's inconsistent, tightening up the naming conventions would probably be a good first step

I was thinking some kind of modular blueprint sent to note what's coming into a factory, what it outputs, where it's going and how much

Have that information at every factory, and also in a central location for quick reference

Tools has some quirks too like the names of tabs sometimes adopting names of other tabs, target output numbers also behaving like that sometimes

[molten osprey]

Finally completed phase 3 after a week or so of getting back into satisfactory and rebuilding everything basically

Now I'm looking at phase 4 and what the next tiers have to offer. I'm probably going to take another break so I can prepare myself for what I'm going to have to do

[fluid sapphire]

You can plan stuff while not playing the game

I spent a few months sketching everything out before coming back

[worn oar]

Implement the DOD mandate

[feral vector]

lol yeah I don't even go that far, half my tabs are named clone null XD

the problem is I make these big planners and then they aren't accurate cause I use a different alt recipe or something

maybe just a "final version" of each factory would be nice so I have a reference

I try to put signs down on belts to track how much incoming resource I'm using but that's hard to use to get a more broad view of things

[fluid sapphire]

I don't normally label individual belts, I just build the thing for a purpose and then leave it alone

[feral vector]

I'm the opposite, phase 4 overwhelmed me but I still binge the game, I'm not even close to automating the space elevator parts even though I have all the milestones done heh. I haven't even automated all the non space elevator stuff, still have batteries and fused modular frames left

[fluid sapphire]

I don't even start building until the graph is final

[feral vector]

idk how else to keep track of how much stuff is left on a belt. besides just building around using a full belt of stuff, and leaving room to add more machines or overclock when I upgrade belts/miners

[earnest chasm]

Am in tier 9 and have even automated anything outside of standard parts yet

[feral vector]

but I don't have anywhere near that level of foresight I'm barely managing to get ugly factories up and running lol

[feral vector]

yeah I might just end up container feeding the space elevator parts again

[fluid sapphire]

OK, sure, I don't personally deal with that at all, everything I build is "final" already. Adding a growing mountain of maintenance on top of every factory is just too much cognitive overhead for me

[feral vector]

yeah that makes sense it's probably not worth it lol

[fluid sapphire]

I just build the thing, and if I need more I just build a new factory

[feral vector]

I mean earlier game it makes sense to track how much of a belt you've used so you know if you can add factories without getting a new node

but yeah it's not like it's a problem to get more resources

[fluid sapphire]

Personally don't even do it in early game, just build for purpose

[feral vector]

maybe I just leave my current aluminum stuff alone and go get another bauxite node and not think about this too much 😛

[fluid sapphire]

That's easier for sure

[feral vector]

in that case, was kinda pointless processing the full 480 though heh

I think aluminum was the first thing where I was like I'm just gonna make a factory to handle the max input

[fluid sapphire]

It doesn't matter, all target numbers are arbitrary anyway, this is no different

[feral vector]

I guess if I just keep a little notepad going for factories like that I can use the extra at some point if needed

[fluid sapphire]

That is to say, nothing is pointless

[feral vector]

if the extra isn't enough to cover what I need I might as well make a new factory though you're right

[fluid sapphire]

If it's worth tracking raw resources anywhere, if you are really worried about wasting miner potential, track it at the miner and split it off later

Same amount of machines in the end, but you don't have the extra overhead of trying to update old stuff

[feral vector]

yeah I just need to keep a little notepad or use map markers or something

I think I did that with quartz, I have two nodes merging 720 or 780 or whatever onto a belt that I've been using for everything so far

back when I was making huge belts all over the place lol

[fluid sapphire]

I think I set up like 750 quartz crystal at one point and it's feeding me well into the endgame

I made half of it into 20 crystal oscillators forever ago, now I can use those to make them all into superposition oscillators

[static steppe]

Is there any pictures/ guides in here explaining/ showing mani folds n balance folds
Which is better for what reasons etcetc.

[feral vector]

yeah I basically did the same

[feral vector]

lol see stuff like that would be smart, I keep having to build more crystal oscillators, I think on another playthrough I might try to make bigger factories for stuff and steal it later

[feral vector]

use manifolds always unless you have a good reason to load balance

[fluid sapphire]

You can use manifolds 99,99% of the time and not ever really worry about balancers, the only perceived downside to manifolds is their spin-up time, but that's overblown

[feral vector]

I'm relatively new but load balancing is good for stuff like crystal oscillators that will take forever to fill up a manifold with

[fluid sapphire]

The only place balancers can be practical is simplifying train loading/unloading setups in some setups

[feral vector]

like I fed those into some crystal computer manufacturers and just load balanced it, or at least split it into two smaller manifolds

[fluid sapphire]

They can be better for that than manifolds

[feral vector]

you don't think balancing is worth it for stuff that will take forever to fill up?

[fluid sapphire]

I don't, what's a few hours for big systems if you can just move on, go do something else and check back later

It's not like you need to babysit it

You probably spend more time building the balancers anyway compared to spin up time on manifolds

[feral vector]

hmm yeah fair, I'm checking my planner and I'm outputting 7.5 crystal oscillators a minute into 4.5 assemblers for crystal computers, that will fill up relatively quickly

[fluid sapphire]

Yeah, that's a pretty small system

Usually by the time I am done decorating everything has spun up

[feral vector]

I mean it took me an extra minute to add a splitter in the middle but that wasn't a big factory

[fluid sapphire]

Couple of hours

[feral vector]

I should probably decorate a little bit XD

[fluid sapphire]

I do very very basic decoration, nothing crazy

But it's systematic and predictable in how much time it takes

[feral vector]

every time I finish a factory I'm like omg I haven't automated fused modular frames or batteries yet gogogogog

[static steppe]

How many smelters should i get in 1 manifold build that is focused on iron (im still new and only at tier 3/4

[wise junco]

hey listen, youll have all the time in the world to decorate after the tutorial

[fluid sapphire]

Check what your belts support

[static steppe]

Only got mk2 belts as of rn

[feral vector]

however many you need to feed the machines that need ingots

or just max out a belt so you can use the rest later, it's not like smelters are expensive

[fluid sapphire]

So 120/30?

Just crunch the numbers my guy

[wise junco]

Satisfactory: Excel: The Game

[feral vector]

but if you are making extra to use later you are gonna end up like me with a headache trying to figure out what you have available XD

[static steppe]

Aight aight. Appreciate it.

[wise junco]

MWYNN.... Make What You Need Now

[fluid sapphire]

You can use something like sftools to help with planning

[feral vector]

try not to be too much of a perfectionist early on, it can ruin your fun a bit, ask me how I know

[worn oar]

I think you are looking at it the wrong way. As your tech increases so will your ability to exploit the resources you have. Just smelt whatever you need for the parts you are building, and come back to expand any time it's insufficient. Before you have an operational nuclear plant consider all resource nodes as infinite.

[wise junco]

I tried to tell you sooooo hard, but you got there and it delights me to see it

[fluid sapphire]

Expanding is optional

[feral vector]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

I know I just said don't be a perfectionist but this helps plan 😛

[feral vector]

I legitimately am a perfectionist to the point of it being a mental health problem, working on it lmao

[worn oar]

Yeah man in tier 3 you gotta smelt up 89,000 iron, it's the only way

[wise junco]

listen, that was me for like ~30 years, it gets better with time

[feral vector]

yeah it's a bit better but I need to consciously work on it

[fluid sapphire]

Not really a useful way of thinking about numbers in this game, particularly for a new player

[worn oar]

If the sarcasm were more obvious it would bite

[fluid sapphire]

Not to someone new probably

[feral vector]

I'm still not sure if I'm anxious cause I'm a perfectionist or if I'm a perfectionist cause I'm anxious 😛

[wise junco]

the feedback loop is strong

[worn oar]

You're anxious because you made up rules about how it "should" be played, and prematurely optimize to fit the made-up rules

[feral vector]

I definitely did less crazy perfectionist shit with this game than I did with palworld, at least when I'm on a browser instead of on the game I'm using a planning tool instead of looking up the perfect way to play

[feral vector]

I mean in life in general lol

[wise junco]

I had a lot of decision paralysis about min/maxing "correctly" until someone on this server put it like this:

You are literally wasting every node you haven't tapped. Stop worrying about tapping each individual resource to its potential until you have run out.

[feral vector]

and yeah I try to do everything perfect in games, I've always looked up builds and shit since like gamefaqs was the best place

[wise junco]

GameFAQs? Are you also from the 90s?

(said as someone from the 90s)

[worn oar]

Not knowing how to make a million dollars a year is costing me $1,000,000 - salary per year

[feral vector]

yeah I'm old lol

[feral vector]

what I've realized is trying too hard to be efficient actually makes you less efficient cause you spend less time being productive. still a hard habit to break though 😛

[wise junco]

That's a solid approach, too. I finally just got to the point of "f--- it, throw down foundations and let it happen"

[wise junco]

I just turned 35. Do I win? 👀

[feral vector]

no lol I'm 40 in may

[wise junco]

oh shit. I have been bested

[feral vector]

not that I act my age or anything heh

[worn oar]

When you meet someone whose birth year starts with 19- ☠️ 👴🏻

[wise junco]

HAHA

listen, it feels that way when your birth year starts with 19

[worn oar]

Alright unc let's get you back to the cribbage hall

[feral vector]

there was no computer in my house, at all, until I was like 12?

[wise junco]

makes me think that maybe the average age around here is higher than i thought originally

[worn oar]

Satisfactory is truly the ultimate dad game though

Possibly second only to Rimworld or Factorio

[feral vector]

games skew young in general but I think these factory games are more dad games for sure

[zenith pecan]

I feel my age at times, though when I get into a building mood, I'm generally within my element.

[feral vector]

lots of people who play these games seem to be engineers or programmers or logistics coordinators or lean six sigma specialists or whatever

[zenith pecan]

IT tech here 🙂

[worn oar]

Have you seen the absolute trash that kids are into these days? Only respectable game among them is Minecraft

Not all kids, of course

[wise junco]

not me literally in the middle of my six sigma training at work ☠️

[feral vector]

yeah lol I feel bad, couch coop was so nice as a kid, much more social than just playing online all the time

[feral vector]

that's awesome I'd love to get a job that used that kind of stuff. I only did one course for my degree but I did great despite having no experience

[worn oar]

When I have kids I'm going to raise them on RTS games and block roblox.com on the router

They won't see the light of the sun until they are fully grown and can beat a team of Korean prodigies 1v4

[feral vector]

I'm definitely playing lego games and mario and stuff with my kids first XD

[white dawn]

When I was a kid I spent a stupid amount of time on an edutainment platforming game where you could run the rabbit you were controlling into a wall and it would make a funny sound and visual effect. Kids have always loved absolute trash! :)

[feral vector]

idk if I'd subject my kids to the stress of a starcraft ranked match

I had to quit that game cause my heart rate would stay elevated for like the entire match

[zenith pecan]

I didn't bother with games until I left school, as a kid I was always wanting to know how things worked so I tinkered, a lot.

[feral vector]

I got addicted to games so young

would probably have turned out better if I kept reading and tinkering with stuff instead

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> FICSIT-branded oregon trail in the HUB, when?

[zenith pecan]

I also did some woefully unwise things, mains electric into a transistor radio etc, so that's why the AA cells said 1.5v, and the device didn't react well to 240v 🤣

[leaden turret]

lizard doggo died of dysentary

[white dawn]

Apparently my mom had to field various calls from concerned parents when I was over at other kids' houses 'cause I was doing stuff like taking their clocks apart. I guess I was always able to put 'em back together in working order. :D (I have no memory of this myself, alas)

[zenith pecan]

Not just me who was born with inherant curiosity then 🙂

[white dawn]

I did plenty of tinkering in the computer space as well; I enjoyed writing my own games back in the Apple ][e days (eesh, I am really dating myself now)

[zenith pecan]

My early life was a cautionary tale of "when you do this~ that happens!"

[white dawn]

Mostly doing my own Interactive Fiction at the time, not that I'd've called it that at the time. :P

[zenith pecan]

bbc micro here.

At school though, had a zx spectrum for experimenting with at home.

[white dawn]

I had a "Software Plus" "brand" which I used for the games I was trying to make Actually Good and "Software Minus" which I'd use for what'd be considered meme/shitpost games nowadays. :D

[zenith pecan]

I tried to actually create an fps game in the mid to late 90s, it didn't work out well, art assets, all created, chiptunes with scream tracker 3, yep sorted, rough level designs, cool, coding my own raycasting engine, BZZZT! epic failure, I still reuse some of my old assets nowadays in spite of some of my tunes being stolen and copied.

[rough shore]

Player.crosshait = racasting frfr

[white dawn]

Nice

[rough shore]

cant even spell raycasting

nor crosshair

[zenith pecan]

I should have started with trying the engine rather than wasting four months on the rest.

[white dawn]

I had plenty of failures when diving into graphics myself, alas; never really did spend the time necessary to crack that nut

[zenith pecan]

Making tunes with the old school trackers was cool though, you could foley any sample and use that as an instrument.

[white dawn]

I still remember my shock upon realizing, after selling my PCjr to get an 8088, that the internal speaker on the 8088 could only play one tone at a time. (The PCjr could do three!) Had to adapt my music-creation techniques to suit. :P

(Eesh, we're really #off-topic-tech and I'm procrastinating on doing dishes anyway. Gonna skitter off. :D)

[zenith pecan]

I never got into earlier chiptunes such as the sid tunes of the c64, I started trackers on an amiga, oops yeah off topic, sorry.

[feral vector]

lol you guys are much more productive than me I just liked playin videogames

[zenith pecan]

We're kind of shaped by what we had access to and mindset while growing up, I loved systems and working out how they worked, that same curiosity etc goes into my satis builds, you've seen some of the colossal results in #design-and-architecture

[crisp vine]

Diluted Packaged Fuel wroth? or nah, been trying to get HOR because it seems to me like EVERYONE uses it but I don't know how worth DPF is

[zenith pecan]

Diluted packed fuel allows straight up access to turning that HOR into a LOT of fuel, the containers just get sent back to be refilled so once the loop is loaded, fire and forget.

[feral vector]

DPF is amazing but you kinda want HOR to use it effectively

[leaden turret]

I've been repeatedly typing evalulated today

[zenith pecan]

HOR is purple gold, the dilute recipe is one reason why.

[feral vector]

it's still great to make use of rubber and plastic byproducts though, way way way more efficient than the normal fuel recipe

[white dawn]

To be fair, a lot of times it was probably born out of the fact that often if I wanted a new game, my option was to: 1) make it myself. :D We're awfully spoiled by game availability nowadays. :)

[crisp vine]

Well that is the goal to get HOR but atm I'm struggling getting that alt so looks like It's time for some fire and forget sollutions

[zenith pecan]

To be fair, I have used the HOR recipe a hell of a lot.

It allowed for a slightly crazy setup that turned the entire spire coast into nearly 7k plastic and 3.5k rubber.

[ruby gyro]

new save
damn i hate waiting 10 minutes for each hard drive scan just to not get what i want 😭

[west jackal]

if your power grid can handle it, a combination of HOR and residual rubber is ideal then you make a butt load of fuel and add recycled plastic/rubber refineries

[rough shore]

phishing link guys

[zenith pecan]

When I saw "shorts" in it, I instantly noped, I truly dislike portrait video on my desktop.

[leaden turret]

#off-topic-media for embeds

[glossy python]

How long did it take for 1.1 to go from Experimental to Stable?

[normal orbit]

Slightly under 2,5 months

[marble socket]

hi guys first time playing the game

[glossy python]

I see

I wanted to try VR but it doesn't work with the Experimental branch

[worn oar]

You need the VR upgrade in the awesome shop, only 50 tickets

[rough shore]

congrats

[marble socket]

im scared

[rough shore]

should be

[earnest chasm]

my favorite mods are not on experimental either I want to use the new truck so baddddddddd

[civic ore]

#screenshots message

How do I get this to work with blockers, it always just flashes yellow triangles

[worn oar]

Scared of having too much fun?

[marble socket]

yuh

[fluid sapphire]

What do the errors say?

[civic ore]

It all loops or something

[fluid sapphire]

Move the signals back from where the rails split

Common bug,

[civic ore]

Thank you, lemme check quickly

[reef basin]

I'd say that's more tied to code changes rather than game branch

[civic ore]

How far back are we talking here. Just says “signal loops into itself”

[fluid sapphire]

Just not directly on the rail split

[civic ore]

Do I need a blocker on every rail?

[rustic crest]

how to utilizate uranium

[fluid sapphire]

A signal on Every entrance and every exit

[reef basin]

process it using recipes you have

[civic ore]

That did it! Thank you, it was my first ever wasn’t clear what the actual rules were on it or about that glitch

[fluid sapphire]

It's pretty straightforward, that bug is annoying though

Fingers crossed it gets fixed in 1.2

But I am not holding my breath, it's been almost a year now

[civic ore]

I was really strussing because of the dual track layout and how it actually DOES loop back in on itself

Likeness Christ do i have to change the entire layout

[fluid sapphire]

Well, it's got something to do with how the rail snaps to other rail, what angle you look at it from as you build or whatever, from the game's perspective, it is looping back

It wasn't as common before 1.1

Now we see people asking about every day

Yeah, it's confusing because everything looks fine

[earnest condor]

@tranquil steppe Pump all that water. Package it. And then just sink it. 😏

[tranquil steppe]

no space left for packer but after my uranium stage i will burn the plutonim before building the plutonium nuclear reactor

[tired garden]

Sounds efficient.

[rough shore]

how many points can u get out of sinking packaged water

i mean it is very efficient fr

130 points and water is basically infinite so u got infinite points 🤷‍♂️

[civic ore]

I made loads of compacted coal to make into turbo fuel but I’ve now realised I need 1,440 fuel per minute to utilise the coal I’m making. Where tf can I find enough oil for this

[glossy python]

yeah but it also needs a mod

[green fiber]

it still takes plastic tho

[glossy python]

its like an external mod + an ingame one

[green fiber]

also everything is infinite points

because everything is infinite

[earnest condor]

I have every intention of making a water-sinking plant this run "just because." 😁

[rough shore]

that i forgot

[rough shore]

i meant infinite per minute but nvm u just ruined the whole thing by mentioning plastic

[green fiber]

even so, it takes machines to package the water

[earnest condor]

Can't you make containers with steel?

[green fiber]

so everything has its eventual limit

[green fiber]

yeah but still it takes something to make the canister so its not "free points from water"

[earnest condor]

Iron + Biocoal 😏

[green fiber]

most of the points of packaged water come from the canister's original points in fact

water doesnt add much to it

[hard wolf]

if I'm already making cooling systems and radio control units for the depot, does it make more since to run OC supercomputer instead of super-state computer?

[wise junco]

i'm a big fan of OC supercomputer

[earnest condor]

You are the sole person who dictates what does and does not "make sense" in your world.

[hard wolf]

then it's best to minimize the number of different types of items I have to make

that just dramatically reduced the amount of plastic I have to make ^-^

[earnest condor]

Crystal Computers make OC Supers even simpler.

[ornate saffron]

Over clocked super computers ?>

[wise junco]

nah, the recipe

[hard wolf]

I've removed computers from this factory completely :3

I'm already making high speed connectors, heatsinks are pretty simple, though they require copper sheets, and the quartz crystals aren't much, so I'm using the radio connection unit recipe

[worn oar]

Should I turn the abyss hole into a gigantic battery y/n?

[wise junco]

if you wanna, yea

[earnest condor]

If I may:

Oscillator is 1:2 with Crystal Computer.
Computer is 2:2 with RCU, which also needs 1 Oscillator.

So take any amount of Oscillator, split it in half, and you're perfectly supplying RCU's and the Computers needed to make them.

Step further:
OC Super is 1:2 with RCU, making so allllll the way back -- Oscillator is 1:1 with Supercomputers.
No complicated maths. Simple.

[hard wolf]

does anyone have any tips on making satisfactory modeler look less like spaghetti? I've already tried 2d lines

[worn oar]

I want a bunch of backup power and an excuse to make something that uses an elevator, and it ticks both those boxes. But the scale of the project is excessive

[sharp viper]

Tung Tung Tung Sahur might be the closest thing to world peace

[earnest condor]

-# Obligatory "Just use Tools" plug

[hard wolf]

I was and now I'm using this instead and it's cool to be able to edit it a lot and work around what items I do and don't want to make

tools is kind of worse for me because it only uses direct lines

[wise junco]

modeler = 😢

[leaden matrix]

Man, I wish I had a reason to use the elevator😭

[worn oar]

Also is there a way to paint part of a foundation, so I can create walkways that aren't one foundation wide?

[civic ore]

What’s the calculator website everyone here uses

[worn oar]

Satisfactory modeler

[civic ore]

No I’m specifically looking for a website I’m on console

[hard wolf]

satisfactory tools if you want a website that will spit out a premathed factory

[worn oar]

satisfactorytools.com, satisfactory-calculator.com

[ornate saffron]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/

[worn oar]

Tools doesn't work for some items though like ficsonium

[tall lantern]

unless you manually input nuclear waste

(reactor burning isn't considered a recipe)

[ornate saffron]

it does but you have to inpout waste

[worn oar]

I zee

Lol the elevator music is beyond generic, I love it

[high kiln]

guys earlygame i have no choice but to go around like ap easant collecting leavs?

[hard wolf]

rush coal

[worn oar]

Sort of? It doesn't take super long to get to coal power, just keep progressing the milestones and building

[high kiln]

gotta automate stuff using leaves ig

[worn oar]

And wood

[earnest condor]

Are you past onboarding and into Tiers 1-2?

[high kiln]

yes

[earnest condor]

May I dm you?

[high kiln]

sure

[floral sparrow]

Is the best way to use geothermal power simply to attach batteries between them and the power grid to effectively just use their average power output?

[south sinew]

you get coal in tier 3 which is usually about 4-5 hours or so

[south sinew]

the batteries are part of the whole grid, rather than connected in series like that, but basically yes, just slap the needed number of batteries (1-2 depending on purity if I recall) next to it and then assume the average

[glacial totem]

what is the 1 inside a circle next to my hotbar?

[floral sparrow]

You have 10 hot bars available to you. You can swap between them by pressing crouch (or left alt? I have crouch bound to that) and using mousewheel

[glacial totem]

holy smokes

thanks

a hotbar for every situation!

[reef basin]

They do

[worn oar]

Yeah but you don't need a separate grid unless you want the geothermals to only charge batteries

[reef basin]

*power storages

And I wouldn't say it's that much required

[faint willow]

Think I might need to start consider using tractors for once

Problem is that's a lot of flat terrain I'll need to put down for it to work properly

[spice timber]

how do i fix sloshing i need help please

[hard wolf]

run the machines at the lowest clock speed possible until the whole system backs up and then set them back the their appropriate speeds is one way I've heard. it should fix itself eventually, though with water feeding enough excess into the system will also help

[floral sparrow]

Contextually they are just massive batteries though, right?

[spice timber]

im in phase 2 can i under clock

[hard wolf]

yeah. you have to research blue power slugs and overclock production in the mam

[spice timber]

thank you very much for the help

[hard wolf]

^-^

[supple canopy]

you could say batteries are power storages, but in satis the reason it's called power storage is to not make it similar to battery the item

[reef basin]

they are accumulators/capacitors, if we're being specific

and "battery" is an item in the game, so even if power storages were "like batteries", it's better to call them their name to prevent confusion

[floral sparrow]

Ah, I was unaware of batteries being a separate item. My mistake

I'm still going to call power storages batteries to myself when I play though, because it's a fun word

[reef basin]

you can call it as you want when thinking about it, but please use proper terms when communicating with others 🙂

[mortal ginkgo]

Call them Jinkie Blinkies, so everyone is confused!

[earnest chasm]

why arent't they adding new awesome shops decorerations to the game?

[floral sparrow]

Can I call them impure limestone nodes in honour of you?

[mortal ginkgo]

No. We are in game already so it wouldn't do any good.

[floral sparrow]

Mm, tough but fair

Can I commit battery against one of those big coughing buggers in the jungle?

[south sinew]

I think murder would be more appropriate

[spice timber]

how long should that take also i heard that fulid buffer help how would i use them sorry to ping you again

[hard wolf]

until the machines and pipes leading up to them are all full. then set a machine to the desired speed and check it for sloshing

[reef basin]

no, buffers don't help and often hurt

[spice timber]

when under clocked the water in the pipes started to leave idk what to do

[hard wolf]

try standby and see if the inputs still fill up

[spice timber]

but its slushing mid way through the pipes its not making it to the inputs i mean its litteraly slushing at the start idk how tho cuase i tried evrything sorry to take up your time im just super confused

[hard wolf]

what's between point a and b?

[leaden turret]

-# and

[reef basin]

loop the pipe

[spice timber]

wdym sorry

[reef basin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1488410915371225188/1488735674763968614/image.png?ex=69e64064&is=69e4eee4&hm=aa726c49e55db750d9c1202eaf63d4ad7b95995925d115a3e71ce94c924984e4&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1234&height=962

[weary gate]

Devs need to change the design of power towers.

[simple pebble]

It's amazing how consistently a loop fixes sloshing

[supple canopy]

they do almost every new update

[weary gate]

I'd like to see four armed varrients.

[spice timber]

yeah but my water isnt making it to inputs its sloshing at the start of the outputs and mid way

[reef basin]

well, it doesn't "fix" it, as sloshing is not "fixable" like that

it just reduces effect it has on your build

[reef basin]

that's why you build the loop

[mortal ginkgo]

what is in constant flow, wouldn't slosh THAT much I assume. However I know the times the loop didn't fix my issue. Its sometimes a combination of fixes and practices needed.

[spice timber]

so where do i bulid the loop

[reef basin]

all your fluid input manifolds

[hard wolf]

you could also double your water output and plug it in on either end of the manifold loop

just to be extra super duper sure

[simple pebble]

That's true! And yeah, that's also true about there being a whole range of factors

[spice timber]

i made three diffrent pipes per mechain does it matter i though i might as well should i of but all three outputs in to one pipe

[covert rapids]

Guys, could you help me? My train won't load - freight station is full of goods and it just won't load. Also, I've set up the time table and game says "next station is unreachable".

I've driven there manually twice and there's no obstacles in the way.

[leaden turret]

station is backwards

[hard wolf]

are you plugging 3 water extractors into 1 pipe? pipes can only handle 300m^3 water and extractors put out 120, so you'd need an extra pipe

[spice timber]

3 pipes for 3 extractors but im no getting enthough pressere so i dont know how to increase that or how to loop it at the outputs

[supple canopy]

back in my days I would do this kind of shit to prevent sloshing, it worked at the time #screenshots message

that was update 4 maybe though

[earnest chasm]

Bruh they only added one stupid beam

[supple canopy]

what do you want to see added? Make suggestion in the QA site

[covert rapids]

the freight station is where the freight car is going to stop, isn't this correct?

[leaden turret]

round bit goes to the front

is common issue where players put stations down backwards because the first person camera view often obscures the directional arrows on the hologram.

[proven abyss]

im scared of this game. i bought it 5 days ago and alr have 70h. and i even doesnt finish phase 3. i finish building 4 ovens for 480 mettal each and automise 2k screws per minute. idk for what i need that much

[covert rapids]

the arrow was pointing the way the train has to go

[proven abyss]

this is my first factory game after mindustry

[unkempt blade]

you need more screws! all the best recipes use them!

[proven abyss]

how much heavy mod frames manufacters i need for now? i could place only 2

[reef basin]

you first need to know how much HMFs do you want per minute

[violet glen]

Does someone happen to know the max number of uranium fuel rods the world can produce? I found the max is 2100 uranium ore per minute

But I'm not sure what the most efficient way to turn them into fuel rods is

[supple canopy]

depends if you wanna stockpile the uranium waste or process it into plutonium fuel rods

[white dawn]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=kOpzwHTaoUcjJqAqULRx <- 256.32/min

[supple canopy]

but yea^

[violet glen]

I'm gonna turn it into plutonium rods and sink them, but that should have no impact on uranium fuel rods?

[reef basin]

(ignoring sloops)

[reef basin]

"efficient" can have basically any meaning. You'll need to be more specific 🙂

[spice timber]

yo can i dm you a picute of my water sytem cuase the flow rate is broke and can you tell me whats wrong cause im clueless

[white dawn]

It might have an impact, if maximizing Uranium Fuel Rods uses up resources you need to turn them into Plutonium Fuel Rods

[white dawn]

Indeed, good point!

[reef basin]

no, why DM? just use the public chat

[white dawn]

Use #1038092680493801533

[spice timber]

oh i didnt know we had one

[reef basin]

you're chatting in one 🙂

[violet glen]

I wonder how I should approach nuclear power. I'm never gonna need THAT much power, so I kinda feel like I just plop down 100 power plants, and a setup to deal with its waste when running on full uranium. And then go around and source the rods, maybe drone them in

The plutonium rods would be nice drone fuel anyway

[unkempt blade]

imo exactly one nuclear gen's worth so you can say you did it and fill in your other power needs with biofuel gens

[simple pebble]

Set yourself a power generation goal imo

[violet glen]

If I did that I'd conclude to just build a second rocket fuel setup and finish the game on that power :D

[simple pebble]

rocket fuel is smelly

[hard wolf]

I have a goal to use all of the uranium nodes at 100% efficiency with all of the miners overclocked

[unkempt blade]

Oh in that case do a lot of nuclear. It's way more fun than rocket fuel

[grave cove]

Is there a way to dump water excess ? I'm at the aluminium phase and I wanna make sure my system never gets stuck bc of water

[tall lantern]

usual solution there is to use it as part of the chain

(though avoiding mixing the fresh and byproduct water, ideally - clock into separate groups)

the lazy solutions are things like wet concrete

[unkempt blade]

or turn it into wet concrete or some solid like that which is sinkable when it's full/not used

[grave cove]

That would be the most optimal solution you're right

Aluminium is a very fun recipe

Btw another question but when I take a power line out of a wall outlet it places a tier 1 power pole, is there a way to change that default tier 1 power pole as connection ?

[reef basin]

don't think so

[ebon marten]

you either hold/tap e or r i cant remember which

[simple pebble]

yeah, sadly there isn't. Not unless it's wall socket to wall socket

[grave cove]

E works to swap to a mk2 but i'd like it to switch to another wall outlet

[leaden matrix]

Perfectionist solution: recycle it into the same system for a balancing challange

Lazy solution: turn it into wet concrete and sink them

"I dont have wet concrete solution": use it in a power plant

[grave cove]

That's the goal yeah, wall to wall

[grave cove]

Well yeah that's the goal, use the water from the electrod recipe for the solution recipe

But if inputs clog it's fine, stuff will still run, but if outputs clog thats where issues start, and it's my first time getting water byproduct as a output

[tall lantern]

this is why the suggestion is to not combine the fresh and byproduct, since that's where clogs usually come from

[grave cove]

Yea and i'm definetly going to follow that suggestion

[tall lantern]

I forget the numbers, but say you need 300 total water but get 120 back. you'd make one set of machines that take the 180 fresh, and the other take the 120 byproduct, ezpz

there's also some images floating around with setups, but the concept's simple enough

[grave cove]

Btw yeah other question

480 bauxite with basic solution recipe that gives silicia = 800 alum

480 bauxite with alt recipe = 576 alum

The only difference is it uses less water, in what scenario people would use that alternate recipe ?

Well it also costs coal coke but it's a very easy byproduct to produce

[tall lantern]

I doubt the only difference is water

lol there you go, it adds oil

[grave cove]

160 coal coke

[grave cove]

Don't people need rubber and plastic ? Those recipes give a lot of hard oil that u can turn back into coal coke

Wanna fight @swift dragon ?

[tall lantern]

there are recipes that can make rubber/plastic without any byproduct stuff

[glacial totem]

wow I just built the Explorer let's goooo

[grave cove]

which ? I didnt find much (Theres the polymer one but it isnt very efficient)

[tall lantern]

but if you have it in excess and want to use it, sure, valid use case

[glacial totem]

Can I run over hostile animals and delete them?

[elfin smelt]

they take little damage but turn into ragdolls

[tall lantern]

the holy quadrilogy of complexity for output is Heavy Oil Residue, Diluted Fuel, Recycled Rubber/Plastic

[grave cove]

Well I currently produce 1400 coal coke that i'm dumping in the grinder, pending for future recipe needs

Stop spam reacting me @swift dragon i swear i'm gonna ban u

[glacial totem]

I ran over a nut tree by accident, will it grow back?

[grave cove]

What word is triggering that xD ?

[tall lantern]

probably coke

[grave cove]

coke a cola

[grave cove]

I can't visualize how would u use the recycled recipes without having to use a normal recipe with either heavy oil as byproduct or using polymer

[tall lantern]

here's an example
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=QQce9O3mWxRuVoEbMzjo

the heavy oil residue goes into making fuel, the resin into making the seed stock of rubber

[grave cove]

wow

That's actually crazy

[white dawn]

You start with the actual Heavy Oil Recipe which produces HOR+Resin. The HOR goes into Diluted Fuel (packaged or otherwise) and the resin goes into Residual Rubber (not plastic! Rubber has the better ratio). Then Recycled Plastic and Recycled Rubber feed into each other, using the rubber from the residual process to kick it off and the fuel to power the conversions

[grave cove]

Costs a lot of power tho, i'll probably do that once I reach nuclear stuff

[tall lantern]

it's very resource-efficient. Also very complex, which people tend to neglect to consider, and also needs a lot of space and power

[ornate saffron]

With HOR and DPF you get 10gw per 300 oil.

[grave cove]

I have only 20GW of free power rn to make heavy frame factory, aluminium factory and the rest

[white dawn]

You end up with 3x the Crude Oil, split however you like between rubber/plastic (and fuel, though if you do too much fuel the ratio will dip below 3x)

[grave cove]

Yeah, I just entered phase 4 but I saw you can convert stuff making oil power even crazier with other fuel types

[wise junco]

I love the output of recycled p/r, just not my favorite thing to set up

[grave cove]

Another question, in mly refin,ery I want to use 120 waterM3 a minute, to achieve that i need a pourcentage with decimals or entering 80, but when I enter a pourcentage, from 66,6664 % to 66,6669 % it doesnt change any value but it still saves the % set, so what's the difference ? None ? Just the visual display of the set pourcentage ?

[supple canopy]

type 200/3 instead, it'll be the most precise

[tall lantern]

the difference is 0.0005% between those 😛

not a huge difference, but nonzero

[grave cove]

Yeah but it doesnt modify anything displayed in the input/output of the recipe

[tall lantern]

because that input/output is rounded

[supple canopy]

the display will round it down but the internal guts of the machine will have more precision that what is displayed

[grave cove]

Damn that's annoying

So to make sure things run perfectly you want to round it down right ?

[reef basin]

because those are rounded (and basically a lie anyway)

[tall lantern]

those'd be using 79.99968/min or 80.00028/min. Probably close enough in practice, but you can get closer by just actually using the right %

[reef basin]

for machines I'd round up, for gens I'd round down.

so if it's a machine, do 66.6667%, for gen do 66.6666%

[tall lantern]

I just type in the actual ratio I'm after, eg the 200/3 mentioned above

but in general, rounding up/down like greeny says is a sensible idea

[reef basin]

that's also fine, but I prefer to have control over the actual saved number

[grave cove]

Just to try something and see if i'm doing it correctly, I want to split refineries or alum solution of 720 total water into two parts, one of 440 water and one of 280 water

The original recipe costs 180 water, i set my machines this way:
180(100%)-180(100%)-120(66,6667%) /// 180(100%)-100(55,5555%)

Is this good ?

[grave cove]

Note that i'm not very smart so what is the reasoning behind that 200/3 ? How do i port it to any other value i'm after ?

[tall lantern]

in that instance 66.66666...% is 2/3, but need to multiple by 100 to get a percentage, so 200/3

and guessing that 2/3 actually came from something like 80/120?

[grave cove]

I just need the left part to be a total of 440 water m3 a minute$

and the base recipe is 180, so that's 440-180-180

How do i get the fraction of something i want xd, like here the base is 180 and I want to use 100, how do i know the value of the fraction i enter in the % box ? @tall lantern (I'm gonna repeat myself but i'm not a smart nor even average smart person)

[tall lantern]

if you want 100 out of 180, then that's... 100/180 😛
and as a percentage it's 100*100/180

[grave cove]

Well, yeah xd

I gotta upgrade my brain drivers or something else idk, it's definetly broken

[tall lantern]

target clock speed = 100% * amount you want / amount you get from one machine by default

[cold berry]

Got cast screws as my actual first recipe, iron wire as my second, stitched plates as my third, and I found a supercomputer for my first sink item on the ground

The game is going to bat for my Forest run lol

RNG is drunk go home

[ornate saffron]

I am supposed to be giving my self a break from Factories. But as i do other things..... i think of the factory

[grave cove]

Anotherrrr question but how do you allign a water pump with world grid or foundations ?

[supple canopy]

build a foundation on the world grid and build a pipe support that you can snap to the output of the water extractor (although iirc it's a bit off by like half a meter but I might be wrong)

[grave cove]

Yeah it's off by a little

[supple canopy]

try other snapable culprits like pipe junctions and pump

or try to find by how much it's off and off it off on purpose if that makes any sense

[cold berry]

I honestly prefer the bolted reinforced plates to stitched don't @ me

[unkempt blade]

off and off it off 🤯

[supple canopy]

no I agree

[unkempt blade]

it's clearly a better recipe because it uses more screws per frame

[void cliff]

Bolted has higher output per machine, which makes it slightly better for blueprints, but stitched is so good.

[supple canopy]

people like stitched to mix with iron wire but look at those cursed numbers like wtf is this #math-and-meta message

[worn oar]

But it doesn't allow you to maximizes your screws

[floral sparrow]

What is the theoretical maximum number of screws per minute that you can produce in the world?

[worn oar]

5 million

[ornate saffron]

#streams-and-videos message'

[floral sparrow]

Thank screw very much

[ornate saffron]

the real question is. when will your computer give up

[worn oar]

My computer shall go on to the end. It shall put screws in the constructors, in the assemblers and even the manufacturers. It shall fill the hills with screws, and it shall never give up and never surrender until every last screw is made.

[ornate saffron]

steel rod - screw

Aluminimum rod - screw too

[worn oar]

Here at Fiscit, we use the whole screw. That's 60% more screw per screw. That's how we keep our costs low.

[devout pumice]

Has the game ever had a discount below 30%?

[unkempt blade]

not since before 1.0 at least

[devout pumice]

Which one was the best? the summer discount?

[unkempt blade]

it's just all been 30% recently

[leaden turret]

https://steamdb.info/app/526870/

sale on humble bundle + humble choice discount = moar off.

except only really works if you've already got humble choice.

[normal orbit]

think theres been a 50%, but it was years ago in EA

[devout pumice]

So the best time would be now 🤔🤔

[leaden turret]

41% off on humble bundle with humble choice right now

only 30% off for normies tho

[unkempt blade]

I better go buy another 4 copies

[wise junco]

with extra factory carts

[devout pumice]

what is humble dunble?

[civic ore]

This was the one, thank you!

[leaden turret]

the third official point of sale for satisfactory. (anywhere else other than steam, epic, and humble bundle is probably dodgy)

[unkempt blade]

I got a few of my copies from some guy behind the Kmart by campus

[void cliff]

Make iron wire from iron alloy ingots!

[devout pumice]

I understand, I think I'll buy it on Steam, just because I prefer having the games there.

thanks

[leaden turret]

humble bundle gives you a choice of steam or epic key

[supple canopy]

it's a bit more acceptable

[leaden turret]

but like I said, the bonus discount only applies if you're already paying for humble choice

[devout pumice]

Wouldn't it be better to make a wire with caterium?

[void cliff]

You sure could! Especially fused wire. Depends where you are in the game ofc

[devout pumice]

im in phase 5