satisfactory

[cold berry]

Ada very much doesn't tell me that, see I love using the giraffe things for target practice

They fall funny

[leaden turret]

Gouda is a point fondue, Anakin

[unkempt blade]

sure you do, that's how the factory cart slows down

[neat anvil]

I used to feel bad about killing them, until I realized they are constantly crying, so I feel I am putting them out of their misery

[cold berry]

Ah no, they just vibing, they love life.

Don't ruin this for me.

[fiery root]

I say everyone remembers the first lizzard doggo dead
I killed mine while it was on a New constructed Highway for my trucks..

[ornate saffron]

Me too. But I dont want ppl ending it for me. I can yeet myself if needed

[fiery root]

Poor thing just happened to stand infront of my route

[turbid crown]

i cant figure out trains :(

[neat anvil]

Mine was in the coal pit

[cold berry]

Eh, they die the same as the spiders. They stop breathing.

Never bothered me once. They pixels and shit

[unkempt blade]

there are spiders in this game?

[neat anvil]

Trains go round and round

[neat anvil]

It’s a bit of a stretch to call them spiders

I think devils is a better way to describe them

Or abominations

If you don’t like them ADA can overlay them with silly cats from past ficsit employees

[clear aspen]

They keep getting in my way so I like to make them into maelstrom goons from cyberpunk and fill their heads with cluster bombs

[neat anvil]

They even make cat sounds

[unkempt blade]

Oh I have the cats. They're scary

[turbid crown]

signals keep looping

i have no idea what im doing

[neat anvil]

Lost me at signals

[leaden turret]

signals only necessary if more than one train on the same tracks

[turbid crown]

i want to make a big track around the world and connect stations to it if thats even possible to do efficiently :D

[leaden turret]

build more tracks until comfortable with signalless tracks, then read tutorials on signals

[neat anvil]

It’s the best thing to do

[turbid crown]

but im just too dum

[neat anvil]

I’m gonna have a 2 way track around the world

[turbid crown]

thats what i want too

[white dawn]

If you're talking about rail, I'd personally recommend building it on an as-needed basis rather than trying to do it all at once. Need to move something from A->B? Set up that rail system. Then need to move something from C->D? Set that up, and if it's reasonable to do so, hook it up to your existing rail.

I've seen a lot of mapwide-rail-system efforts fail 'cause folks who weren't used to dealing with rail dived right in and found out later that 30 hours ago they made a design "mistake" which meant they needed to redo all that work

So make sure you know how to work with rail before doing a huge project like that. :) And ideally, IMO, just let the huge project happen organically as you play. Though of course many folks like building mapwide rail networks just for its own sake, so don't let me discourage you from the plan if that's where your heart lies. :D

[ornate saffron]

Can confirm. I did this we back

[turbid crown]

im playing around with it in a creative world first on a smaller scale

[neat anvil]

I HATE manufacturers why are they sooo big bro it’s impossible to make them look nice

[turbid crown]

make box

blueprint

[ornate saffron]

Logistic floor below can help. This way your can route half the inputs from under

[earnest condor]

Sushi.

[neat anvil]

I need 17 there’s no way a sushi belt is gonna work for it

[earnest condor]

What are you making?

[neat anvil]

Computer factory with just iron copper and quartz, but the alt for crystal oscillators only makes 1 pm

[analog citrus]

i love this game

[neat anvil]

And it’s in the manufacturer

[earnest condor]

So Insulated Oscillators. ✅
What's your highest belt mk?

[neat anvil]

Wait nvm it’s not an alt

I have Crystal computers alt That’s why I’m making it.

And an extra 5 oscillators for anything else I need

[earnest condor]

What is your highest belt mk?

[fluid sapphire]

sushi can work for that just fine

[neat anvil]

780

[earnest condor]

So mk5 ✅

[neat anvil]

Yes

[earnest condor]

Regular Oscillator recipe input is 34.5 per Man.
x17 = 586.5.

Yes, you can do that on 1 mk5 belt.

[neat anvil]

Ok thanks

[earnest condor]

💛

[neat anvil]

Il try my biggest complaint has just been with design but I can figure something out

[plush trellis]

Also if you have train tism

[earnest condor]

Recommend overclocking to not have to make 17 of them, personally.

[neat anvil]

When I made the layout in tools I neglected to realize how many manufacturers there were

Could I have 10? And overclock to get what I need ?

[leaden turret]

-# underclock and build more

[fluid sapphire]

dont forget overflow if you want to do sushi

[earnest condor]

17 breaks down into 8 clocked at 2.125

212.5%

[fluid sapphire]

once you go sushi with your manufacturers aint no going back

[ornate saffron]

@neat anvil

You can stack them vertically and feed them from conveyor lifts with splitters. Make a manufacturing tower

[void cliff]

I've made a lot of towers like that recently. Best way is to do lifts into a wall and out of the wall toward the top, and it's pretty easy to make a ton of them. floor holes and vertical splitting is broken in blueprints

[hollow mountain]

should i rush to unlock tier 9 or take my time in tier 8?

[void cliff]

It’s really up to you and how soon you want to see the ending and have everything unlocked

[strange vortex]

Can someone tell me wtf happend? I send that to #screenshots

[hollow mountain]

i honestly dont care about the ending. i also have no idea what i unlock at tier 9

[neat anvil]

You are the honored one

Crap wrong image

[strange vortex]

wdym honored one?

[worn oar]

Maxed logistics is nice but you have to build out a couple factories for the ingredients so I would say take your time

[strange vortex]

.-.

[hollow mountain]

i think ill do that

[neat anvil]

An I see that looks like a power death spiral

[neat anvil]

I’m assuming you had enough power before this you should go check up on your power plant

[plain marten]

will 1.1 truck paths break when 1.2 releases

[chrome crypt]

is there a setting i can make my UI was smaller?? I have a 49 inch 5120 - 1440 monitor and it stretches everything out and i dont like how big the UI is

[supple canopy]

yes in the gameplay options I believe

[ebon marten]

The current 1.1 pathing will still exist when you upgrade to 1.2 but any new routes will need to be done with the new system

[plain marten]

so autopilot paths are going to be removed?

[ebon marten]

No. You will still be able to do the autopilot paths but you will need to add stops on the route when you make a new route

[earnest condor]

Depends on how "fun" the path is. But for specifics you should ask in #satisfactory-experimental

[supple canopy]

No. Existing routes will work, but you wont be able to add other vehicles to those automatically converted paths, and you'll have to set timetables to your vehicles (mine were all stopped upon loading)

[analog citrus]

guys ive scanned the iron nodes but the game is displaying to me only 2 nodes near of me no more, its normal ?

[earnest condor]

Not all of them still work 😉

[supple canopy]

yea true there are specific cases like PATHS THAT USE JUMPADS that won't work

[earnest condor]

See previous about "fun" and realize how accurate I was being 🙃

[ebon marten]

The scan doesn't cover the entire map as far as I know. The scans have a range limit so if there are nodes outside of that range they won't show up

[analog citrus]

$hooo ok

[supple canopy]

Also I had a truck stop that was elevated by like 2 or 4 meters, that stopped working too

[supple canopy]

the ressource scanner's range is infinite, and it shouldn't even be a thing for iron

[elfin gyro]

I know a couple people said "no" to this, however I could swear nodes stop showing up past a certain distance. Is it a range thing, or a "only hits the first ~10" thing?

[cobalt matrix]

There is a date to update 1.2?

[twin parcel]

false , it seems infinite due to large area it covers but nah its finite

[hollow mountain]

wait you dont need nuclear in tier 8? you unlock it but you can just ignore it

[twin parcel]

well u can start building uranium rods factory and sink it until u can make plutonium rods

[supple canopy]

you can ignore half the game's features

[chrome crypt]

everything is tiny but this...how to fix??

[elfin gyro]

some people do runs on only coal power

[chrome crypt]

i cant post photos

[supple canopy]

from the wiki "The actual scanning process has no range limitations, it will scan until all 3 Resource Nodes or batches of them are found, no matter how far away from the pioneer that may be."

[hollow mountain]

this is crazy behavior

[elfin gyro]

personally I agree

automatic biomass or bust lol

[hollow mountain]

is automatic biomass even possible?

[twin parcel]

just build a ton of power storage and afk , u can beat the game without nuc or roc

[hollow mountain]

well im runing on turbo right now am im doing good

[supple canopy]

if you have enough power for what you want to do then you're doing good

[hollow mountain]

im not even using geyser or the sam power machine yet

[elfin gyro]

shit tons of containers with leaves and such, into self-powered machines, to craft the better biomass, to utilise the belted burners

[supple canopy]

geyser is dogshit and sam power is like the most advanced type of power

[hollow mountain]

its not automate if you run out of leaves tho

[supple canopy]

only good thing about geysers are the geothermal generators look super cool

[hollow mountain]

why is it dogshit? inconsistant?

[obsidian zodiac]

probably just me leo mikael is a longform, yap at the camera kinda guy

[grave cove]

Do they ever plan to add a structure that splits items at a precise rate / min ?

[tall lantern]

unlikely

[supple canopy]

yea it provides very few power (around 10GW peak if you sync all of them), and yea it's fluctuating like not on my power graph dude

[elfin gyro]

pretty sure the net positive on just leaves if you have fast enough belts and sloops is enough to power you to the point you could craft the ingredients for those belts off of one container, but I have no idea how the numbers actually work

[hollow mountain]

i only have under 6GW tho

[elfin gyro]

hook them into a dedi power line with some batteries and a couple power plants of whatever tier you're at and it's train power

the consumption on those fluctuates anyways so

[shy temple]

For automated biomass, it is one of those things that expand as you go and get more things. Biomass is actually pretty useful through the game, particularly for chainsaw and some things you can unlock later

[supple canopy]

you could run around plopping geothermal gens and dragging power towers all across the world but it won't get you far, better to upgrade

[elfin gyro]

(I am for the record slightly meming about the biomass but it's theoretically possible. I have a life.)

[hollow mountain]

i heard there is a great blender recipe for turbo

[elfin gyro]

blended turbofuel is pretty great

[shy temple]

For Biomass, you got the initial harvest, then you can refine it into the biomass logs. Later you can make it into a fuel. Plus later you can get smarter splitters so you only need the one container and it sorts out into the different uses for plant and animal biomass

[leaden turret]

-# crops dev stream to portrait mode

[shy temple]

What was said before is my favorite use of geothermal.

[hollow mountain]

also im runing everywhere from place to place maybe its time to build a train

[supple canopy]

yea blend is fun, so many pipes and liquids: #design-and-architecture message

[shy temple]

When I get more capable of dealing with creatures and staying supplied, I will go around and plop geothermals down while also connecting up radio towers. Then I use the geothermal to charge up the capacitor towers as kickstarters for new factories.

[hollow mountain]

liquid suck sometime tho

my aluminum setup doesnt work if i let it run too long

[supple canopy]

"dedi power line"

[elfin gyro]

Personally I don't bother but at minimum geysers and batteries is a good combo, and if you don't want the flucuations to mess with the factories put them on a different line ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[earnest condor]

.#BiomassTillNuclear

[grave cove]

Is there any structure where the player cannot land and instead starts floating until you slide out of the structure ?

[earnest condor]

Huh?

[grave cove]

There is that on many other games with building allowed, wondering if there's a few structures that behave the same way on satisfactory

[earnest condor]

You are the one who builds all the structures, so.. ?

[grave cove]

What do you not understand in my question ? I can maybe rephrase it ? Idk

[forest hound]

Green energy run.... you can only use energy thats coloured green

[earnest condor]

You build all structures.
So if you manage to build one you cannot "land" on, that's a unique design that you had to put effort into coming up with.

[grave cove]

yeah that's what i'm asking

I dont really have an example tho so idk

[earnest condor]

You can slide off pipes pretty easily.

And I'm sure with freemode you can make beams at an angle that doesn't allow you to walk.

[shy temple]

I actually am curious. You know that math. What if one slooped every single biomass production step... How much and how long could you generate for if you did a minimalist play til nuclear.

I am sure somebody has done the challenge.

There are so many steps, it would be exponential.

[earnest condor]

Biomass is infinite so you can generate power infinitely.

[shy temple]

Well, but you need to go out and collect it though, and rate of collection vs consumption

You are the mining node

[ornate saffron]

Add biocoal into that math.

[earnest condor]

There is a max MW theoretically based on creature respawn times.
But it would be well beyond what you're need to reach nuclear.

1 alien remain becoming 960 coal is kinda nuts.

[shy temple]

Well, respawn time is one thing, but there is the time for you to go out and kill them.

Oh, but it is that high? I never really got into it too much

[ornate saffron]

Ya, i use biocoal slooped for my munitions

[shy temple]

That is the slooped process tree?

[earnest condor]

Yes.

[shy temple]

Cool!

[earnest condor]

1 alien remain can run a coal gen for 64 minutes.
Longer if you find a sulfur node.

[ornate saffron]

I already do this. That why I push back when ppl say biocoal is bad lol

[abstract heron]

Really

[shy temple]

Mmm hmm... I guess it isn't so much I find it bad, just how I progress results in me not finding it useful 🙂

[unkempt blade]

biocoal is the third best alt recipe after cast screws and aluminum beams

[shy temple]

But I commit on next playthrough to actually make a proper bioprocessor

[ornate saffron]

Its why I use it for munitions. I get more as I use what it produces. Its a positive feedback loop

[shy temple]

Yeah, that is a good idea for sure.

I only use it for my jetpack.

and chainsaw. No biocoal

But I started looking at my system and thinking of a ratio (not consumption math) with sloops.

SO you got 1 source becomes 2 protein/mulch to 4 logs, to eight fuels.

[ornate saffron]

I have a sulfur node for my plutonium setup surrounded by portable miners. The main proper miner feeds the plutonium and all the portable miners feed munitions. When I am in the area I drop off the creature remains and feed the sulfur line.

[shy temple]

A good idea. That is how I would do caterium early on before I get the explosives unlocked.

Load up half my inventory in seconds, dump it off once in a while.

I am very inefficient. I build stuff, get it running, then forget about it. So my ammo just runs indefinitely.

Routes into quantum containers. So never need to look at it.

[ornate saffron]

Which is fine. Awesome sinks are there for us

[shy temple]

Ammo i think is one thing I dont have going to sink, oop. I just route the excess gunpowder.

Oh, I need to get the pulse and cluster nobelisks and my turbo ammo going.

When I do next map, I want to make a bullet town. A seperate factory area just for ammo and have a train deliver it to my mall. four engines, 12 cars. All the weapon

[supple canopy]

you've mispelled automated miner

[unkempt blade]

I'm not a fan of the automated miner but it's still tied with all other recipes as the best recipe ever I guess

[shy temple]

Thing I like is once you can automate miner production... quantum container. Toss a bunch in so you never have to think about it again when expanding

[wise junco]

why no like automated miner?

[shy temple]

I have a large container and quantum space full of automated miners. Don't question me

[unkempt blade]

it's more that I never really need more than a few stacks max for a playthrough. I can just use the autocraft button while I make coffee and get enough for the whole save by the time I'm back

[shy temple]

Yeah, that is true for a fair bit in game. You are right, overall it isn't a really necessary item unless are a person that likes to automate for automation sake since is a very finite number needed to build the actual mining stations

Same with station parts. Is sort of silly to build a plant for that purpose vs just dumping components into a container

But sure is fun!

[unkempt blade]

yeah I need some but I don't need an indefinite number the way I would for like ammo or filters or other stuff I would actually automate

[wise junco]

I can see your point FCAKF. I honestly used to be anti-automated miner until I decided I just didn't wanna hand craft them... ever

[radiant sparrow]

Returning to the old save brings so many questions. Why do I have 20 stackable conveyor poles on the side of that cliff? Why do I have a chest with 29k of iron ingots floating in the middle of my base? That's with pipes going and ending inside a mountain, miners floating on spots where ore nodes used to be, power poles floating in the air, tracks just idling because they're lost their paths, water extractor on a puddle that isn't connected to anything. Interesting

I'm not even gonna remove that portable miner that stood on quartz ore node

or how about 13 industrial storage containers that, apparently, store all of my stuff. What was I playing back then, Minecraft?

[fluid sapphire]

probably?

[shy temple]

I dont quite have anything that if I load up old ones. But my favorite is pre water saves. Coal power plants with no piping. XD

[abstract heron]

Still waiting on the office tour or studio tour

[soft ore]

Truth

[stray gull]

struggling today w/ steam deck desktop vs gaming mode. both have different pros/cons re: ui & functionality when using only a BT controller. Boo!

[unkempt blade]

what if you do couch coop with a friend and one of you uses a controller and the other uses a keyboard/mouse?

that seems like the best of all worlds

[waxen rune]

is satisfactory calc down?

[stray gull]

does seem rad! i’ll have to convince some friends to log on

[grave cove]

has anyone found a way to split an exact amount of items per minute ?

[edgy python]

my train station says 479/min however im mining 480/min so am i fine to use 479items/min(train station display) as 480/min machine intake

[green fiber]

probably just a rounding error and its 480

[edgy python]

it says that for all 8 of my freight platforms

[fluid sapphire]

personally dont trust the platform reported number at all, just see if your machines actually use 480

if your load/unload is buffered it should be fine

[edgy python]

alr il check it out rq

[edgy python]

yeah both sides are

[shy temple]

No way to split an exact amount aside from a complex series of splitter and combiners with math and assuming other lines do not back up. More often one adjusts the input items per minutes

[fluid sapphire]

this question usually stems from a misunderstanding about how splitters actually work

you dont need to do that 99,99% of the time

[edgy python]

also the buffer delivers 2x the resources the miner makes

[grave cove]

That's the issue, i wanna run a relatively low output / min computer factory, I want to send 10 items per minute to storage and the rest to the train station, issue is the smallest thing to split would be (I actually realized I can actually split any number I want as long as it's multiples of 5 lol)

[fluid sapphire]

send to the train station first and the overflow to storage, whatever your consumers leave left over gets sent to storage, the system will balance itself out, just like a manifold does

[grave cove]

It wont balance itself tho as train will take the whole storage everytime I get there

[fluid sapphire]

where is the train going and how much is being used there?

[grave cove]

Well you're actually right

I would need to fill the whole storage first tho

[fluid sapphire]

the computers are not going to disappear, your destination only uses... as much as it uses

so let it fill

[grave cove]

I'm not producing much per minute

[fluid sapphire]

go do something else while it fills

[untold moat]

the easy solution is to use a smart splitter, set all to the storage, and overflow to the train station. the storage will fill up first, and the train station will take the excess to wherever you want it to go

[fluid sapphire]

if they ever use a high burst of computers for whatever reason, having it this way around can cause a shortage

[grave cove]

The go do something else scenario here would take probably more than 4 hours

[untold moat]

honestly the entire theory behind logistics is so long as the transportation is more than the production, and consumption is less than or equal to production, it will balance itself eventually

[untold moat]

also true, so it does depend on them as well.

[fluid sapphire]

thats why its better to prioritize the station

[strange vortex]

I just finished mini factory of Adaptive Control Unit :D

[fluid sapphire]

dont you have enough to do for the next 4 hours?

sloop it to make it quicker

[grave cove]

I absolutely do

problem solved

I havent really used trains yet but are we sure there canno tbe any loss of items ?

Even in experimental version :p ?

[unkempt blade]

take a 4 hour nap and wake up refreshed for more automation

[fluid sapphire]

nah, they are not going to just disappear

[white dawn]

If you put in x/min to a train, you'll get x/min back out

[grave cove]

aight i trust ya

[white dawn]

No need to trust me; can run your own tests. :)

[grave cove]

tests differ from person to person when it involves bugs

And I play other game that has a lot of bugs so i'm cautious

[white dawn]

By that logic, you testing your own stuff is en entirely reasonable suggestion then. :)

If tests can vary from person to person, what matters is how the system behaves for you

[grave cove]

Well yeah but the reason I come ask here first is to make sure I have the informations before experiencing bugs (if there is bugs)

[white dawn]

Trains have been rock solid basically ever since they were introduced. There are a lot of ways to make mistakes, of course -- they've got a learning curve

[grave cove]

If there is a possible bug I would use the other split method i thought about that adds annoying layers, but if everyone tells me theres no bug then it saves me some time

[white dawn]

But all of the available logistics methods (belts+pipes/vehicles/trains/drones) can be built out to reliably support whatever throughput you need

Just gotta take the time to learn how to work with the systems

[grave cove]

yea

[shy temple]

For that, I can help you with something, and will be an easy bit to figure out, an old mechanical computer. How many per minute are you making total?

[fluid sapphire]

ya'll love to overcomplicate this stuff huh

[shy temple]

Also like others said, never had issues with item loss or really bugs overall ever in the game that causes issues.

At most, I have lost a buggy to the void cause it clipped through the map while running around. So I did a save edit.

[grave cove]

i'm still planning, I was about to go for a pause but whatever amount maximum i could do with one pure oil node for the plastic / rubber i need, but i'll check that later i gotta make a quick pause 😢

[shy temple]

Aaah. Well the fortunate thing for that is computers do not build too fast.

So easiest way is to not merge anything. I do that some times. I build ten, have seven go to one thing and three to another.

[lost crag]

When is 1.2 stable releasing? It's nice that they're streamlining vehicles, but I would've really liked to see more options to get water besides the big goofy water extractors... Working with those was the least fun part of making coal or fuel generators. Maybe reduce the size of water extractors, make them "fresh water only" (inland ponds) and make multiple desalination machines (coastline) that have multiple water outputs? Perhaps the highest tier has like 5 300cm² water outputs????

[unkempt blade]

I heard it's not releasing today

[shy temple]

Then you just need to put a smart splitter in on your 10/min line so if it fills up, it can overflow.

[grave cove]

yeah that's actually another solution i did not think about

[grave cove]

noice

This game is nice i hope i can get over the complexity of wanting to build things well and "finish" the game "phases" at least once xd

I wanna be part of the 5.5%

[shy temple]

Hey period person, I am same way. I love complexity. But one thing I find about complex games is to figure out smaller systems.

And satisfactory has something no other game has that really benefits that a lot.

Something you will find as you go are these crashed pods with hard drives you can research for new recipes

As you unlock the new phases and their tech, you get new hard drives that offer new ways of making early game stuff.

[grave cove]

Yeah I was doing all-i-one very compact factories at first but rn i'm at the last factories of phase 3 and i'm seeing that building one very big factory is way too complex for my small brain so i'm going for a factory for computers, one for heavy modular frame, one for motors etc etc, then merge everything with trains for the big recipes

[shy temple]

Essentially making more advanced machines and using more inputs to reduce steps and improve yield.

Yeah, I play the same way there period.

[lost crag]

Star Rupture is shaping up to have some mega complex items to manufacture.

[shy temple]

Break it up into seperate factories is my area. I make 'blocks' if it seems to overwhelming.

So like your computers, just branch that off so it isn't too close. Then do the first item for that.

Make use of the sign items in the fixit shop to help with notes too.

So you can put like a sign above the machine noting your inputs letting you see inputs and outputs

[zenith pecan]

My factories gained a life of their own during construction.

[shy temple]

Yup, mine too, they sort of flow out and take shape.

Which can lead to interesting problems for interesting solutions.

[peak wasp]

mine just blowup whenever i do anything lmaoo

[shy temple]

My best recommendation to other people that like to make stand alone factories is really just give yourself space.

So if need rerouting or the like, you can.

[zenith pecan]

Mine sort of flow out and eat biomes.

[shy temple]

Yuppers!

Is so fun doing so.

Right now, my aluminium is eating the swamp

[cold berry]

No, leave no space, and then combine the two factories together once they start touching.

Make the entire map a nightmare labyrinth.

No space no space no space no space

[shy temple]

There is one user who has done that Boredic, saw their screenshots on steam though. Not here.

They build in a way so every spare space is belt and machine. Is very crazy to see. Squishing and piling stuff up.

[zenith pecan]

Search #design-and-architecture for vids I posted to see just how mad I went during construction.

[grave cove]

#1494741134646317207 message Started the game there

[cold berry]

I would hope it's more than one user. I want to see gaggles of factories that look like someone with any of the hallucination/delusion-class mental disorders found steam during an episode and thought satisfactory was God himself

Then once we identify 4 of these users, we can set them all up on the same world and see what happens

[zenith pecan]

My aim isn't compactness, just has to look cool and it must be walkable, the slender towers are an exception.

[wise junco]

Wow - if you do P4 right, P5 really is a breeze isnt it?

[shy temple]

#screenshots message This is my post sharing screenshots through phase 3 from when I came back to the discord from being a ghost

[zenith pecan]

I made far too many singularity cells though.

[shy temple]

Near the end, you can see my also organic floor plan of my phase 3 components. Made motors and adaptives in the same building. but there was some nice plants and rocks, so I built around it making it a green space in center of the building.

Not so visible is I actually build it raised up and there is a basement level to help move stuff larger distances across the plant.

[zenith pecan]

I do build so.e infrastructure under the map.

[zenith pecan]

My portal location isn't visible until you go under the map #design-and-architecture message

[cold berry]

I looked at your screenshots, Markus. They are ... Satisfactory

[hearty flame]

do you physically have to go all the way under the map for that?
i might wanna try somethin like that

[zenith pecan]

Don't have to, the construction location was just my choice, directly below my hub.

[shy temple]

I respect your detailing work. I don't build under the map, but you create the illusion of being an underground complex.

Vs it being some wide open skybridge

[hearty flame]

yeah, what i meant is the whole "under the map" thing is cool

and i might do somethin similar in my own world

[cold berry]

Under the map is pretty cool, and the method you used making it look like an underground bunker is sick. I wanna steal it

[zenith pecan]

My uranium processing facility is colossal, and under the map #design-and-architecture message

Most of my subsurface stuff is just logistics, the portal back of house and uranium processing are the exceptions.

[shy temple]

Yeah, I like your utility tunnels.

Also, an Eve-O player. Man. Been a long time since I played.

Was CSM back in the day, Gees... been like ten years since then

[ornate saffron]

I havent played that in a LOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGGGG time

[simple pebble]

Never played Eve but my brother did, and hoo boy, the stories he'd tell me

[zenith pecan]

Dropping two haw phoenixes onto random blops is hilarious.

[plucky bone]

On my 2nd playthrough now. What an improvement. Currently doing a reinforced plate and rotor factory. I think. Started in the dune desert by some big cliff and falls.

[untold moat]

the only way to reduce items is to either craft it into a different component, flush fluids from a system, sink the item, or trash/flush the item

[earnest condor]

You think? You do not know what you are making?
😬

[plucky bone]

Yes. Maybe not rotors here. Depends on the rates I can get outta these mk 1's

[untold moat]

ah, a blindfolded playthrough, what could go wrong! (this is a joke)

[untold moat]

60 i/min is the hard cap for belts

[earnest condor]

100% Rotor Assembler is 45 iron/min
100% RIP Assembler is 60 iron/min

^ If that helps.

[plucky bone]

I know all that jazz. Up to mk 2 now.

[earnest condor]

Bonus: 100% Modular Frame Assembler is 48 iron/min

[plucky bone]

Going for 2 assemblers. OOHH I'm upping my game.

[earnest condor]

May I give you a building config that might help in that endeavour?

Especially if you want to expand without needing to rework things?

[plucky bone]

Sure, I already am planning the expansions in though.

Last thru was too small and cramped so I am going all out this round.

And Ficsit factory swatch for iron,

[quartz salmon]

When I get home tonight ima start building my central storage and train facility

First time using trains lol

[swift quarry]

Hows it going my factory people?

[earnest condor]

Sent you the details!

[plucky bone]

Ok. I'll have a look thanks

[shy temple]

I was a solo account specced into logistics and command ships. Could fly all command ships max skilled and maxxed in all four factions of carriers. And that was before nex.

Never had the luxury of being in a super or titan though. No alts means those would be a prison plus would be entirely reliant on others to get around.

[shy temple]

It is so satisfying building a giant warehouse. It is a signature of every playthrough I have done. I call it my mall, where I could go and get everything I need.

[frank yarrow]

Anyone got any tips, I just started tier 5/6 and have mk4 belts and want to actually build some modular factories instead of having cramped lines all strung together but I have no idea where to start.

[shy temple]

Can you describe what you are meaning more by modular factories?

[frank yarrow]

like seperate factories for the mass produced items

[shy temple]

Aaah. Well the main thing is some sort of depot to spread them out and transport either by your conveyors, land vehicle, or train.

What you can do for low quantity items like computers is actually have factory carts pick up at truck depots.

[frank yarrow]

Or idk if I should do that or build set factories for more complex items like computers

[frank yarrow]

ah basically answered it for me

[shy temple]

I love to use them to deliver station components ^.^

I have splitter inputs into the station, and so when finished tier, I clear the input line and then change the splitters. Overflow going to the sink. Just running carts to a station connecting to it and sushi train

[unkempt blade]

The key to success:

1. make modules in BPs
2. ???
3. profit

[eager scaffold]

i think i would divide the base into
space elevator parts, complex parts, basic parts, mall, smelting
i would probably divide it like that can even remove basic parts and just fully utilize trains

[frank yarrow]

Cause up to now I've been progressing fine but as soon as I've got to tier 6 it's a huge jump

[swift quarry]

Is there a setup I can made with my splitters and mergers for overflow instead of splitting it 50/50

[frank yarrow]

is mall items I use for building and just use in general?

[eager scaffold]

just in general, building, tier clearing and other stuff

[frank yarrow]

ah okay

are there certain biomes I should be building specific things in or does it not really matter

[eager scaffold]

if u have trains it doesnt really matter much and it would come to preference

would u build close to ores so no need for trains then go desert like that

[white dawn]

Nah, just whatever nodes are convenient. It's true that there's a few biomes which seem specifically populated to support particular factory lines. (Like Blue Crater is a real popular place for Rocket Fuel) but in general you've got a lot of selection. That's especially true if you're keeping up with your alt recipe research -- that's the main point of alt recipes: they give you a lot of flexibility in where you can build, beacuse you can end up building the same stuff from vastly different resources

[unkempt blade]

blue crater is overhyped, doesn't give you enough reason to use trains

[frank yarrow]

ah so it's more use the alternate recipes to suit the area I'm building got it

I better actually get started on some of it cause I have a lot to do

[ornate saffron]

100%

they are tools. you choose the one the fits your needs

[eager scaffold]

do u have dimensional depots set atleast?

[frank yarrow]

not yet but I'm pretty close

[feral juniper]

Hello guys

Should i get satisfactory

[white dawn]

Keep in mind you're asking a channel composed mostly of people who like the game so much they want to keep talking about it even when they're not playing it.

So, y'know, don't expect unbiased opinions. :)

[feral juniper]

Honesrly fair

Then im asking why do you guys like the game so much

[white dawn]

How much you enjoy the game is likely to boil down to how much you intrinsically enjoy solving complex problems and building systems out. It's a "slow" game compared to many genres; many folks will take literally hundreds (or even thousands) of hours to finish a playthrough

If you derive satisfaction in the process of building things to do your work for you, even if maybe it took longer to do so than it would've taken to do it yourself, this could be for you. :)

Could try watching some Let's Plays and such, of course

Unfortunately the standard digital-game storefront refund policies really don't work super well for a game like Satisfactory. You definitely can't get a true feel for the game in just a couple hours

[eager scaffold]

for me its mainly beacuse it gives me clear goals to acheive every step of the way guiding me and making an acheivable goal
and the way to acheive that goal is through a complex spaghetti of boggling proportions makes it fun

[wise junco]

okay... fresh into p5. lots of options for making diamonds. how does everyone feel? is there a strong front runner?

[white dawn]

Though of course if you have a visceral reaction in some way during those two hours, that could maybe be enough. :)

Good gods, I wonder what the hell keyword triggered that. Visceral?

reaction?

Aha, k.

[eager scaffold]

have u atleast played other factory type games before because the game genre itself might be a turn off for you when it starts getting complex

[stuck canopy]

okey i figured out how does auto connect blueprints work, now can it connect power?

[swift quarry]

I recommend it. I still learning but this game does something to you.

[feral juniper]

No

[frank yarrow]

Literally only bad thing I can say about the game is you can get burnt out but on the other hand it’s a game you can constantly come back to

[white dawn]

Nope

[ornate saffron]

problem sovling, Flow states, Being creative

[stuck canopy]

might not even bother building power pole, just use smart mod i guess then

[grave cove]

Guys i'm currently end of phase 3, i have 20k MW of electricity i can use rn and i'm wondering if phase 4 unlocks new way better ways of getting power (To know if i should use most of it rn or not)

[wise junco]

yes

[unkempt blade]

it already peaked with biofuel generators, it's all downhill from there

[ornate saffron]

20000mw or 20GW get rid of K

and yes th3e third version oif fuel is available in phase 4 as well as nuclear

[eager scaffold]

then if u have the money u can atleast buy the game then refund it before u reach the threshhold though satisfactory is rough until u reach coal power and thats where it starts to get fun

[unkempt blade]

I'm pro kilomegawatts

[ornate saffron]

after i eat dairy is KiloMegaShats

[glad carbon]

I come back once more for another question on train :p, why cant i rotate my block and path signals, to face the other way in about 98% if my railway?

[next ivy]

i wanna know too

[earnest condor]

Do you mean face the other way or go to the other side?

[glad carbon]

Face the other way, they only allow me to let them face one way

[grave cove]

20gw

[earnest condor]

They are right-side only for facing "forwards."
So the only other direction is if you put them on the left side, in which case they face the other way.

[leaden turret]

biome ass burner

[eager scaffold]

@feral juniper btw u can try and watch yt reacts of playthroughs like reggie, thats how i got hooked into the game

[glad carbon]

Even if i switch them to left side placing the little arrow points the same way

[grave cove]

New version of fuel you'd recommend me to use other nodes or should i keep my 25k MW 4 pure node plant ?

[earnest condor]

Can you send me a screenshot?

Are there any other signals on that rail?

[glad carbon]

Allllllot farther down the path yea

But those are pointed the way im trying to rotate it to

[earnest condor]

Can you place that one and place another one in the same spot?

[glad carbon]

Thats how i switch directions? Ada needs to explain things better 😭😭

[earnest condor]

No, it shouldn't be.
I'm just wondering if that will work for this situation.

[glad carbon]

It did

[earnest condor]

Normally you can just rotate, but something was stopping you. This is just a workaround 😬

[ornate saffron]

Leave what you have there is much more oil out there.

The fuel path is
Fuel, turbo fuel, rocket fuel and ionized fuel. The default path is to use the previous version to make the next version. There is ways to skip step for example go from fuel to rocket fuel not making turbo. BUT going through the chain is very satisfying and you learn a lot.

All of this can be unlocked in the mam

[hollow mountain]

hey isnt there a map of the best route for train?

[earnest condor]

Best is subjective.

[ornate saffron]

No, you can build high and avoid everything. I prefer the games natural roads. You can see them on scim

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/

[hollow mountain]

oh yeah i guess

i start using somersloop and now im almost out of fuel 😢

[tepid spear]

Guys I just grinded 2 hours fo these frickin 1000 smart plating

But i did it

[hollow mountain]

gratz

[glad carbon]

That js reminded me i should get to work on phase 4 :p

[radiant sparrow]

Me: -Well, I think I should keep this world as a memory and start a new game. Hm, maybe I could try a couple of mods before I start
*50 mods later*
Me: -Good, now I can close the mod manager and don't play Satisfactory until next big update.

Or how I applied Skyrim modding to Satisfactory

[hollow mountain]

do you guys use impure node sometime?

[sterile blade]

Only Limestone ones

[tepid spear]

Rare

[glad carbon]

When i need more resources to exploit

[tepid spear]

Bro i just got the jumpscare of my life. I jumped normaly then there is a cliff and 3 Spiders holy

[shy temple]

And one always needs more to exploit

[glad carbon]

We need a miner mk4

I want MORE

[shy temple]

That is a 250 overclocked sloop

[tepid spear]

I think I saw a mod for it but idk

[shy temple]

Need more sloop

[ornate saffron]

Ya of course. I use them just as much as any other.

[shy temple]

And don't spend sloop to boost power. Use it to get more fuel!

[wise junco]

you're an overclocked sloop 👀

[glad carbon]

Yall what mega structure should i cover the top right side of the map with :p

[tame bobcat]

damn aluminium alclad sheets were so much cheaper then i thought i was over prepping for no reason lowk 😭 unlocked Mk5 belts in legit 1 minute after setting it up

[wraith depot]

i just want mk. 6 belts in phase 4, i can exploit so much more with my mk3 miners

[exotic frigate]

Theres a hundred and seven places of somersloop and coffestain comes around just to limit us

[shy temple]

So I said dont use power booster. I was thinking of tearing mine out to sloop machines

[exotic frigate]

Yeah. I just hunger for aluminum like it need it to live

[shy temple]

I was thinking what to replace my fountain with. But then I realized I can make a closed loop packaging system

Just to watch bottles move in a circle

hashtag industrial fountains.

[exotic frigate]

Package lube and unpackage lube

[shy temple]

exactly

Next time I play, every refinery area, I am going to use that instead of signs.

With a container spinning to other container and back with fastest conveyors I can.

Imma do that when I get home for bridge to my refinery.

[exotic frigate]

Now I desire to make a 2 machine factory. One packages water. The other unpackages water. One must imagine the machines happy

[glad carbon]

Holy 10 pure nitrogen node

[exotic frigate]

Yeah thats a fun one

[shy temple]

That is exactly what I am thinking Nether. I am totally going to do mechanical art at my refinery entrance now.

[vernal vortex]

Whats the first part of phase 4 i should get out of the way?

[exotic frigate]

Aluminum

[shy temple]

everything revolves around aluminium

[exotic frigate]

Then computer parts for automating machines like miners

[vernal vortex]

already did a 1k ingot per min farm

[shy temple]

Well, I actually built a new refinery to get the fuel to get the power to run my new manufacturing

[exotic frigate]

If youre low on power id tackle a nuclear build first, because nuclear pasta is genuinely insanely power hungery. Like gigawatts per machine

[shy temple]

I have a refinery with a train station to do fuel deliveries.

[cold berry]

The way

[vernal vortex]

Forgot i need power thanks

[exotic frigate]

But im gona tackle a small build to make radio control units, super computers, and something else for buildings, before I tackle my phase 4 parts

Turbo motors

[vernal vortex]

luckily i already finished heavy frames

[exotic frigate]

Thats what I need. Turbo motors and radio stuff is needed for mark 3 miners. Im gona get those before I tackle the elevator parts

[violet glen]

is there a hotkey to change jetpack fuel?

[glad carbon]

I reaaaaaally forgot how easy smart plating is 😭

[exotic frigate]

No its turbo motors and super computers for mk3 miners. Radio stuff is for the liquid wells

[supple canopy]

you also need fused modular frames for mk3 miners

[glacial totem]

Ok sorry I can't find this

[cinder fable]

question, my coal generators working fine for few hours no issue, now comes the time, the water just refuses to go inside them ? all the pipes leading to it are full, what could be the issue ?

[shy temple]

Not a hotkey per se, but in inventory, you can select it in your equipped for a settings that lets you select the preferred fuel

it will use the preferred fuel until out, and then use whatever is first in inventory

[shy temple]

Well, in grassy fields, it is massive. Like skyscraper sized. Two giant columns joined at the top

Stand in any spot, turn in a circle 🙂

[supple canopy]

#screenshots message
surely you have seen this in the grassy field

[violet glen]

I know that, but I kinda want a quick switch between rocket and biofuel

[upper zinc]

Hi all, anyone know the fix for Missing Table String issue, stopping me joining games

[stuck canopy]

how to exit into hypertube branch?

[violet glen]

you switch direction via E while in the segment before the switch

it indicates which way it'll go

[cold berry]

I've never used hypertubes

I'm going to make a blueprint for a custom light post that allows for Zipline and has a hypertube connect

I've decided

Also gonna make truck roads

[stuck canopy]

i need to get some desent cannon blueprint

[fluid sapphire]

build one yourself

the looping ones are finicky

[glacial totem]

Maybe but without realising. I'm juggling too many things in my head at the moment. Is there any way to turn off the space elevator objective from the HUD? it's distracting me

[supple canopy]

yea, under gameplay settings in the HUD category, you can turn off "Current Game Phase in HUD"

or delete the space elevator

[fluid sapphire]

then it will say "build the space elevator"

[glad carbon]

I jusr relised using petrol coke i can convert that into 566 aluminum casings... per second

What i want to do with 566 casings a second, i got no clue

[fluid sapphire]

per... second?

34k aluminum casings a minute?

[glad carbon]

Ok nope i figured out a way to make it nearly 800 casings a second

[glad carbon]

Yes

[crisp vine]

What would you even want to do with something like 48K casings a minute?

[glad carbon]

I dont know

[crisp vine]

What could you even do with that

[glad carbon]

Build

[crisp vine]

YOU COULD SINK THEM

RACK UP 1000s of tickets

[glad carbon]

Nah

[crisp vine]

Just for the funnies

[fluid sapphire]

ah. boxes full of somersloops, that explains it

[cinder fable]

Q: im using a 8 coal gen set up, all gens got to max water in time and everything was running fine and nothing was losing the amount needed to run, but after couple hours the middle 2 gens just have 0 water? why could this be? what would change the outcome after few hours of success

[glad carbon]

Specifically my calculation is at like 45k per min on the casings

[fluid sapphire]

make a post on #1038092680493801533 with screenshots, its almost certainly a piping issue

[cinder fable]

will do

[glad carbon]

Oh cool 500 heat sinks per second 😭

Thats what i can use the casings for

If i can even find enough rubber for that

[fluid sapphire]

nothing your million somersloops cant solve surely

[glad carbon]

Trust me, the thousands of sommer sloops i have cannot easily solve that 😭

[fluid sapphire]

maybe not *easily *😄

[glad carbon]

Including this i am lowk running out of sommer sloops

161 thermal propulsion rockets per min sounds tasty tho

All from some coke

[glossy scarab]

how do i make it so that my paint jobs apply to my buildubgs by default

[native tapir]

Console or PC

[glossy scarab]

pc

?

[plucky bone]

Right click the customization you want and it should give a menu of items to choose from to apply them to.

[glossy scarab]

Thx!

[plucky bone]

Ye. No probs.

[civic ore]

Is there a way to increase train speed?

[fluid sapphire]

go downhill

speed, dont think so, acceleration, maybe?

[fathom pier]

bring back uranium waste gift to lizard doggos

[mortal ginkgo]

1 Train Head can carry up to 4 freights that are full. After that one you need more heads.

[mortal ginkgo]

Why.

[fathom pier]

its obviously the best gift

[mortal ginkgo]

broblz.

[wild mural]

would there happen to be a hotkey to swtich machines to idle?

[civic ore]

Not what I was looking for but this is absolutely going to be useful going forward thank you

[fluid sapphire]

you can copy paste their settings, i think that includes them being turned to idle

[civic ore]

So I’ve got my train auto driving a loop but it isn’t stopping to load/unload just blasting through the stations, what have I got wrong?

[mortal ginkgo]

I wasnt giving enough context. I assumed maybe your trains were slowing down without you finding out (since game doesn't tell the info I stated).

Otherwise indeed there is no "version 2" and only way of speed up is acceleration from going downwards.

[fluid sapphire]

you can set them to unload/load specific stuff in the settings, and "none" for the side that you dont want to use (e.g none to load where you are unloading stuff), platforms also have either load/unload settings - i suspect its the latter

[mortal ginkgo]

I think that doesn't no.

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, just tried it, doesnt work

[shy temple]

If the train isnt stopping at all, then I suspect the train station isnt set

Cause should still stop regardless.

[fluid sapphire]

i assumed the stations were in the schedule

but true. if a station is in the schedule, the train would at least stop for a second

[mortal ginkgo]

Do they even stop if they cant do anything? such as no need to unload if it doesn't have anything to unload?

[shy temple]

Dunno. Never tried really

Should still stop to determine.

[fluid sapphire]

they do

[shy temple]

I have had stops for other things set up wrong and they still do things

[fluid sapphire]

they slow down to a standstill and immediately start moving again

[mortal ginkgo]

noted

[civic ore]

Got it set up and it’s still blowing through, does the order of the stations matter? I currently have my unloaded in front of the actual station

[fluid sapphire]

it doesnt

did you check the settings for the platforms?

[civic ore]

Yeah I’ve got it to load and it’s full of fuel

And the trains set to load fuel at the station

[fluid sapphire]

is there room on the train?

you should probably make a post on #1038092680493801533

so we can see images and there isnt slow mode

[civic ore]

Okay I will, and yes it does

[fluid sapphire]

@real shale so hows yours going, i have added a few things to mine

#screenshots message

[forest tangle]

I need some help? How do you see the blue mark that shows you where the head lift IS currently, before you put a pump on the pipe?

[wise junco]

👀

[forest tangle]

so the blue marker isn't showing up at all

[fluid sapphire]

lock the hologram? it should be visible?

#screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

I thought it was just hovering over the pipe while building with a pump

[next zealot]

Is there no better way to make true black walls besides using half foundations of coated concrete?

they take up too much space

[glad carbon]

Seeing the other colours after i changed mine feels weird

[unkempt blade]

as in just making a swatch with black for all the colors and painting walls isn't enough?

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, i only recently changed mine again, it was black/purple, now black/yellow

[glad carbon]

Ive got green and purple for my colours lmfao

Like the hologram colour

[fluid sapphire]

its not perfect, but you can try negative values to make it darker at least

#screenshots message

[weary gate]

On resource well extractors what is the % number that slowly goes down

Is that node going to produce less

I’m guessing that’s right

[supple canopy]

it means the production is backing up downstream, the extractor is full

[weary gate]

Oh

[supple canopy]

but honestly for these it's fine because you don't have much control over their output unlike any other machine

I wouldn't worry about it UNLESS you're trying to consume its intended throughput

[supple canopy]

and matte, as in @fluid sapphire 's screen shot. Also using 1m FICSIT wall for this makes it very uniform

[supple canopy]

yea no that's a crazy bug, I swear the game is sentient and purposefully force block and path signals the wrong way no matter what

[shy temple]

For walls, if you want a smoother finished wall too, use the one meter walls and not the four meter walls

[glad carbon]

I spent like 10 mins re designing my train stop off tryna get it to work before i gave up

[shy temple]

Wierd that your signal wont rotate

[earnest condor]

Are you on Exp?

[glad carbon]

It does in some spots funnily enough

[shy temple]

The other thing that can do it is the part of the track you are looking at. So look on the other side of where the two pieces meet usually works for me

[glad carbon]

Nah ps

[earnest condor]

👍

[glad carbon]

I swear pipes haunt me in this game, literally any recipe i pick requires some typa piping

[shy temple]

Glorious noodles!

[glad carbon]

I can see my pipes from the top of the space elevator 😭😭

[shy temple]

I have decided I am going to make pipe art scupture for the entry into my refinery. A perpetual motion rainbow.

[supple canopy]

no in that case I've been trying to look at the railway 360° from all sides, sometimes it just doesn't want to. And it's not even because I'm trying to put them the "wrong" way from the rest of the track

[shy temple]

It is an annoying problem for sure to solve without trying. I have had a rare issue where it won't let me put on two signals. The only solution being to delete and rebuild the two sections of track for that signal spot. But never been unable to pick direction. Usually mouse wheel or just looking at other part of where track meets.

are you trying to place it on a joining of two track segments or in middle of the segment?

I will need to get some biofuel too in order to get my plan to work.. hmm...

[glad carbon]

Yk i from all this piping work my orginisation is getting better, im not clipping conveyeres and pipes through eachother anymore (well not as much)

[civic ore]

I think I saw someone say this but I’m just checking if it’s right

If I have two trains, one bringing supplies and one taking away crafted supplies, do I need to have these be two different train stations?

[shy temple]

Yes and no. A train car's position at a stop can only ever be set to either load or unload

You can have for example two different locations within a stop, one being set to load and the other to unload. But you cannot pick up the same spot you dropped

[supple canopy]

by "spot" he means freight station @civic ore just in case

[shy temple]

(STOP][UNLOAD][LOAD][STOP) is the most compact way of sorts

[civic ore]

Oh that’s a lot better then I thought, so I just need a loading freight station and unloading freight station on the same main train station

[shy temple]

OR
(STOP][UNLOAD]
(STOP][ LOAD ]

It depends sort of on how you do your trains. For the first example, You can bring the train in from opposite direction, else you would need a 'spacer' car for one of them.

[civic ore]

Well in this specific scenario I have one train bringing in Sulfer an another train taking away compacted coal

[shy temple]

Aah, then what I recommend is the two station solution

That way one does not need to wait for the other to leave if they come at the same time

[warped crane]

yooo shoutout to the devs, the new vehicle pathing is so good

[shy temple]

Actually... Are you using a push/pull system? If you are tight on space, you can probably fudge it.

[warped crane]

its like how vehicles should have always worked

[civic ore]

I’m doing two lanes one going either way

[warped crane]

have been playing since the beta weekend way back when before quartz even existed. it's like vehicles are finally how they're supposed to be

[shy temple]

Push/pull is how you have your engines. Do you loop them around or an engine on either end, so it reverses direction while leaving

[white dawn]

Eh, I'd disagree with that -- the original vehicle system mostly just had various bugs that needed fixing that would've made the system easier to work with. I'm personally gonna miss it. (Though I acknowledge that overall it was almost certainly the right choice to overhaul it)

[molten osprey]

I wish that the world grid was mentioned in the beginning because now im phase 3 doing builds and stuff and I only found out recently after making a massive floor connecting to the first factory I made

[shy temple]

The old system works, but is tedious. Especially if you want to do lots of vehicles.

[warped crane]

just drawing paths that you can edit segments of at will is infinitely easier than the old record a path system

[white dawn]

I've used vehicles as logistics backbones for a long time now and they've been capable of being 100% reliable for some time now; ever since they introduced the changes to reduce deadlocking and teleport to the next nodes

[civic ore]

Loop them around, so that they only ever drive forward on a track

[shy temple]

I like it, but suddenly another vehicle or creature while pathing... adding a new station that suddenly is picked up by another route going by, etc.

[white dawn]

I've routinely had dozens of vehicles doing logistics on my saves for awhile now; I actually find laying down "paths" more tedious than just driving. :D

[shy temple]

Got you! If you want more design ideas, I have different ways it can work if concerned about space.

[warped crane]

the old system wasn't unreliable, it was just clumsy with needing to record discrete routes

[white dawn]

And I feel like the path-building makes them feel too much like trains. But, as I say, it's fine. :D I'm happy to use the new system too. :)

[warped crane]

paths that you can edit like conveyor belts is exactly what was needed

[white dawn]

Not gonna complain about stuff that makes things easier for other folks; I'll just miss the old way is all

[supple canopy]

I am SUPER pumped about the new pathing system but to be honest, after update 5 the system was foolproof. But there are a lot of QoL with this new system

[warped crane]

stockholm syndrome lol

[white dawn]

I still retain a sliver of hope that someday they'll patch in an option so that we can still lay down paths by driving. Like still plop down the new splines behind me as I drive, but let me actually pilot them around.

[shy temple]

The pathing system was 'foolproof' but not 'beanproof'

Or 'other tractor ahead of you' proof

[weary gate]

Wdym?

[warped crane]

some sort of "place paths as I drive" would be cool

but I love how modular the new system is

[supple canopy]

bean proof it very much was, tractor ahead of you is still a problem with the new pathing but that a topic for #satisfactory-experimental

[white dawn]

I've had "highways" with dozens of vehicles taking material in to Central Storage and literally have never had problems since the original vehicle overhaul in like U4/5/6/whenever

[warped crane]

need to change a station location? NP just tweak a couple of nodes instead of needing to repath the whole route

[unkempt blade]

yeah I'm a little bummed about not having my carts doing tricks and stuff on their own 😆

[white dawn]

Ever since they were able to teleport to the next node, even bean runins didn't do more than interrupt a vehicle for a few seconds

[supple canopy]

if your extractor is extracting 75 nitrogen/min and it's not 100%, it means your machine is starving from another input

[white dawn]

But again, I should shut up about it, 'cause they've already replaced it with something else and I will just have to pour one out for drive-to-set-path. :D

It's not like I'm gonna stop using vehicles just 'cause the path creation is different now

[supple canopy]

but it didn't? It ran over the bean like manual driving

[shy temple]

I mean recording them and you have to slow down to pace with them because of driving faster, particularly in turns or if one crosses a path. Or if bean is standing right in the middle of the road. or if there is a physics glitch while going up a slope

Once recorded, I didn't care. but the recording still is one thing that detracts from them for me. Particularly on longer routes and one oops means starting from scratch.

or looping back and then deleting a bunch of nodes one at a time

[white dawn]

Yes, the fact that automated vehicles' top speed was less than Pioneer-driven top speed was annoying. That would be an example of a bug which to me I'd've preferred they fixed rather than replacing the system entirely. :)

[supple canopy]

after update 5 you could pause the recording, delete offending path nodes and resume WHILE fullspeed (iirc)

[white dawn]

And gotcha re: bean avoidance; yeah, that could be annoying. Though usually a quick little route editing could smooth that stuff out

Yeah, could just wait there and then come back and delete the pause node

[shy temple]

There was novelty to the old system. But functionally, I find the new one will just offer more overall for usage on a quantity basis

[supple canopy]

THERE WAS NO PROBLEM WITH BEANS AM I CRAZY OR WHAT???

[white dawn]

Some strange behavior with vehicles + pause nodes was another thing I was hoping they'd straighten out eventually

Anyway, as I say, not like I hate the new one. I'll just miss the old one, is all. :P

[shy temple]

Many beans died for being on my road one too many times.

Not actually using new ones, one part I suspect old one would be far better is overlanding.

[scenic anchor]

i can post for help on looking for group

[dense violet]

if that help is you wanting other people in your game? sure

[wise junco]

howdy cobalt

[scenic anchor]

yes i need help

why can't i post

need help with turning all oil into rubber and could use other minds in my build

[dense violet]

heve you posted there recently?

if not you probably need a tag or title or missing something

[scenic anchor]

tryed to won't let me

[dense violet]

there's probalby a field you're missing

[scenic anchor]

where would i find that

[dense violet]

I was just trying to make one, it seems to need a tag

look for the red letering, that usually is the warning something is missing

[scenic anchor]

ty

[scenic anchor]

nope stilll nothing'

whatever anyone that wants to be nice i need help with oil and maybe another mind on my build that be so cool.

dm me i'm on 1.2

i got it

[hollow mountain]

whye satisfactory tool doesnt work with fuel?

[narrow canyon]

It does

[dense violet]

turbo fuel and compacted coal is in the alt recipe list

[hollow mountain]

ty

[wise junco]

ficsite trigons and time crystals are automated. my real life can begin

[white dawn]

You know what they say: life begins at Phase 5!

[wise junco]

i have heard that a time or two

i am a little disappointed because so much of phase 5 seems trivial

[earnest condor]

Welcome to the midgame 💛

[white dawn]

Yeah, the main difficulties in Phase 5 is just ensuring you've got enough Phase 4 production to support it

Still, the Dark Matter loops are a lot of fun, and I love the recipe choices you've got

[wise junco]

and I do think my p4 production will hold. power definitely needs boosted though

[supple canopy]

was about to say, the puzzle is about dmr management and power

[white dawn]

Oh sure, I personally find it quite satisfying. :D

Phase 5 is more the victory lap to Phase 4's marathon, is all. :P

[wise junco]

that's valid

i'm using 90 GW out of my 95 GW being produced, so...

the GOOD news is i only am using half of the RF i am producing... mostly in part because i needed mk 6 belts to get my full production capacity. so i have plenty of power ready to set up

[white dawn]

And of course if you decide to go for something like Ficsonium you've still got some pretty big builds to do. :D

[wise junco]

it's on the agenda

[supple canopy]

yea I'm starting a ficsonium build, it feels like the marathon starts here lol

and my plan is to run solely on recycled dmr

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, probably unfair of me to have gone so far as marathon -> "victory lap"

:D

Marathon -> Half Marathon, maybe? :P

[supple canopy]

yea a double marathon to a marathon XD

[worn oar]

Satisfactory

[wise junco]

yes

[hard wolf]

do I subdivide along the length to make it look more supported or is this enough? xwx #screenshots message

[small niche]

anyone got any idea what i can do with 48,000M^3 of dark matter residue?

[cold berry]

Eat it (?)

[sharp viper]

Chat Mindustry or Factorio

I like Mindustry more

[cold berry]

MineMogul

[violet glen]

well, just put all the raw ingredients in to finish Phase 4. Now I just gotta wait 2.5h...

[rich basalt]

does anyone know if there’s plans for kbm on console?

[forest tangle]

Do fluid buffers work with gasses?

My fluid buffers arent going above about 15% full of rocket fuel

[wise junco]

just delete yer bufferz

[small niche]

they fill every 10 min, and its more than 1km from my base

[wise junco]

i was responding to Carbon

[small niche]

also the buffer is 48,000M^3

[violet glen]

I somehow only now realized rocket fuel is a gas

removes pumps from fuel gen stack

[glad carbon]

I am having so much fun decorating train stations

[dense violet]

Don’t use fluid buffers at all except for train stations

And never gasses

Gasses hate buffers

[dense violet]

Process the dmr into something you can sink

Like you probably did for oil residue

[small niche]

im thinking i could use it to make ficsonium

[dense violet]

If you want.
Personally with power infrastructure I keep it completely independent from any other system though

That goes double for anything that processes waste and could crash your entire power system

Thats not something a priority power switch coukd save you from

[glad carbon]

Why are stations so poorly lit

Using all the brain power i can rn to make good looking lights

[hollow mountain]

i just double my power with turbo fuel using blender

feels good

[plucky bone]

It is nice that's for sure. For a tad bit more elbow grease the increase is immense. Use a few alts and go.

[hollow mountain]

im at almost 10 GW

probably low for a lot of people

[glad carbon]

Jesus you need that much power late game?

[hollow mountain]

oh im far from late game

[glad carbon]

That much that early?

[hollow mountain]

i dont use all of it. it just to make sure i have enough for the future

my max cons is at 5 GW and a lot of my machine are turn off

[glad carbon]

How many MW is a GW?

[hollow mountain]

1000

[glad carbon]

1 mil right?

Ohhh

Wait what is million shortened again?

[hollow mountain]

no idea

turbo with blander is insane. it remove the need for coal and reduce a lot of sulfur

[meager fern]

Kilowatt (kW) 1,000 (One Thousand) Watts
Megawatt (MW) 1,000,000 (One Million) Watts
Gigawatt (GW) 1,000,000,000 (One Billion) Watts
Terawatt (TW) 1,000,000,000,000 (One Trillion) Watts

[glad carbon]

Oh

Wait a minute

[meager fern]

there are theoretical units larger than a terawatt, but according to the internet, the entire world only uses 15-20 terawatts

[glad carbon]

Cuz see, i can make my factor produce 1.15 million MW, and i originally said that was 1.15 GW but that is 100% NOT 1.15 GW

Wait am i in the TW region in power production capability?

Oh

Oh damn

My rocket fuel factory can create 1.15 TW of power alone without the addition of my APA's

😭😭

[hollow mountain]

wtf

[meager fern]

i doubt you are actually making 1.15 TW of power

[glad carbon]

Not yet

I need to place 1860 more fuel gens

[meager fern]

how many are you going to have in total?

[glad carbon]

1920

At 240%

[white dawn]

1.15TW isn't that difficult, btw. It's more than most folks do, for sure, but on the scale of "big power" it's quite achievable

[glad carbon]

So a simple 600 x 1920

[violet glen]

I have 40GW in my world right now, and barely use half of it at the end of Phase 4

[glad carbon]

My consumption rn is 100GW and capacity is around 150GW

[meager fern]

i didnt say it was difficult, but from what they said it didnt seem like they were anywhere near "big power" if 10 GW was something that got a "you need that much late game?" question

[violet glen]

I'm currently debating if I should set up a Nuclear Plant, just for the sake of having done one

the diagram of what needs to go into it looks insane though.

[white dawn]

oh oh, gotcha. :)

[glad carbon]

Its cuz i thought GW was TW

So i didnt relise im making ALOT more power than i was anticipating

[violet glen]

The power numbers are a few magnitudes too high anyway to make sense lol

4MW for a constructor?

That's like... a small city

[white dawn]

On the other hand, Constructors (and all other machines we use) are basically doing magic

[violet glen]

Well, it's artistic freedom to balance realism and an enjoyable game

[white dawn]

The kind of molecular rearrangement required to take a pile of iron plates and turn it into the complicated things it spits out, at the rates it does so, is frankly even more insane than a single machine needing 4MW. :)

[violet glen]

Cause nobody would enjoy Satisfactory+++

[white dawn]

Sure, I'm just saying that machines needing MWs of power is one of the least unbelievable things about what we're doing in-game. :)

[violet glen]

A random Biomass burner outputting 40MW is the much more crazy part anyway :D

[meager fern]

"Once the turbine is installed, the Thunder Bay (paper)mill will have an electrical capacity of almost 100 megawatts." for a random thing that backs up the power numbers in this game

[civic ore]

How to stop my train from pulling in at the wrong freight platform?

[earnest condor]

You are the one who told the train where to go.

[civic ore]

The station has two freight platforms in line with each other and it’s pulling into the load one not the unload one

[meager fern]

another mill has a power capacity of 500 megawatts

[earnest condor]

What do you mean? It is pulling into the station, it doesn't pick individual platforms to pull up to.

[violet glen]

Trains only operate at the station level, not freight platforms in that station

first platform corresponds to first cart, and so on

[glad carbon]

I want to make a PW of energy

[earnest condor]

TW is the cap given resource limits.

[glad carbon]

But, when you have many many more sommer sloops, is it really the cap? (Ofc without using More than say 10 APA's)

[white dawn]

Yes, current max power production is something like 13-14TW

[civic ore]

Someone earlier told me it was possible to load and unload from a single station, how would you do this then? Just have an extra carriage that’s empty and use the platform spacers in between the station and the freight platforms?

[violet glen]

configure one platform to load, and the other to unload

[meager fern]

wow almost as much power as the entire world uses

[worn oar]

Yes, even if you cheat in 99999999 somersloops and sloop everything I think the math was like 30 TW

[earnest condor]

Yes. Because even with that you're not getting over 1000 TW more to bump you up.

[worn oar]

(With the obvious caveat that just building infinite APAs is effectively infinite power)

[glad carbon]

Yk thats a good challange in a world, literally max the amounts of power you can get

[glad carbon]

Yeaaa true

[civic ore]

Ive done that, but how do you make the load and unload trains pull up at different spaces to use the two platforms

[violet glen]

There are no load and unload trains

It will load and unload every train that comes in the same

[civic ore]

I’m using it descriptively

[earnest condor]

Same train, different platform settings at each end.

[civic ore]

Sorry I might not have said I literally have one train loading and another unloading a different product, both running on largely separate tracks

[earnest condor]

I.E.

Station 1 : Platform (Load) : Platform (Unload)
Station 2: Platform (Unload) : Platform (Load)

Whatever you put into Station 1 will be dropped at Station 2 and vice versa.

[violet glen]

You might just need a second station

there is limited flexibility there

[earnest condor]

Yeah if you're on separate tracks just make 2 stations for each train.

[worn oar]

"Sometimes you get what you want, and sometimes you get 100 rotors, 5900 iron ingots, and a death threat from the conductor"

[violet glen]

You can do a lot with time table item config, and spacers. But it's not limitless

two unrelated trains coming into the same station is a recipe for trouble

[civic ore]

Damn okay, someone said it was possible so I was assuming it was going to be easy. Don’t know why considering the game I’m playing

[violet glen]

Some things are possible, in certain situations

but two trains, going to different destinations, taking produces from one station is generally a bad idea

it'll be somewhat random how much of the product goes where

Multiple trains bringing Alu products, in the same cart config, from multiple places into the same drop-off station however is no problem at all

[civic ore]

It’s one train feeding the factory and another moving the factory products out

[violet glen]

You can configure in the time table which items the train takes/drops at that stop

But really... that just sounds like a two-station-job to me

[civic ore]

So does the train settings override the platforms unload/load toggle?

[violet glen]

The platforms will only ever load or unload

[civic ore]

I am also arriving at this conclusion

[violet glen]

you can't have one do both

So one of the trains would need to be longer, and have dummy carts at front

if you really want to only use one station

[civic ore]

I’m gonna give dummy carts a go, thank you for your help!

[violet glen]

i.e. the train bringing in stuff is 2 carts long, and has the stuff in there

the first two platforms then are set to unload

The one taking it out is 4 carts long, and the last two get loaded

that way the one delivering does not steal

But that's... kinda hacky. Why not just two stations? :D

[civic ore]

Cos I’m a fool who loves to suffer

[glad carbon]

Guys trains can use my intersections now, i figured out how to choo

[earnest condor]

CHOOO

[glad carbon]

CHOOO

[cursive topaz]

Well going afk for a 5 hours gets you 3.5 industrial containers worth of steel frames

Should be enough for phase 3 I think

[harsh saffron]

Hey question I see satisfactory is finally on steam is there a way to add it to my steam library with out having to buy it a 2nd time

[meager fern]

its been on steam for awhile, and not really afaik. you can add a non steam game to the library to launch it from there, but you would still need it installed through epic games or wherever

[latent prawn]

motherf*er

[glad carbon]

Huh?

[latent prawn]

ada's inspirational message

[harsh saffron]

K I have it installed through epic

[glad carbon]

Oh my goodness i completley forgot ada does that 😭

HAHHAHA I HAVE A BEAN ON A TRAIN

[noble sand]

Thomas Jefferson binder

[latent prawn]

i wonder if they added code specifically to make that happen or it was just kind of a side effect of all the other physics

[small niche]

can yall do a small test? its super easy. open your inventory hold space when flying (jet pack) then shift click your hover pack in while you are hold space to fly. do you hear the jet pack when using the hover pack?

[civic ore]

Is there a way to approximate how close to the original output trains will deliver

[night lotus]

it tells you if you check the station afaik

also conveyor monitors

[exotic frigate]

Radar towers are placed. Now i can either move on to computer automation, or my aluminum factory. Probably both at the same time. Swapping between them

[manic geode]

does coal power still always need electric power to run the coal stuff?

[meager fern]

if you mean the miner and water extractor, yes

[manic geode]

i mean the coal power generator and the water pump

[meager fern]

well the coal power generator makes the power, and like i said if you were talking about something that included the water extractor, yes

[exotic frigate]

Yeah, thats why you have those miners on a separate grid from the generators, and both separated from the main grid, all separated by power switches

[manic geode]

ahh ok, water pump need electric and once i connect the coal genny to something it outputs power, thank you, still early in game and i spammed the hub upgrades lol

[exotic frigate]

Yeah thats fine

Like I said, separate power generation from the grid via power switches

Youll thank me later if you ever blow a fuse

[manic geode]

i just figured out to use the coal genny to power the water pump, thanks for the tips to figure this out

[exotic frigate]

Np. You can always place a temporary biomass burner to kick start things if you need it

I live by the power switch. I die by the power switch

[glacial totem]

Ok but do I have to climb it like some sort of platforming puzzle, or will I unlock a jetpack or something

[meager fern]

you can build ramps up to the top, or wait until you unlock the jetpack

[glacial totem]

let's hope the jetpack isn't on the SAM research tree 🙃

[shy temple]

Well, look around it a bit, be careful and watch your step

[meager fern]

its unlocked in tier 5

[shy temple]

you can get sam early

shh.... no spoilers unless they ask 😉

[meager fern]

they asked about jetpacks

[shy temple]

Oh, that is indirect about something they asked me before

[latent prawn]

jetpack is a hub milestone

though rng can yield you one early

[glacial totem]

thanks. I'm ready for SAM spoilerage.

[shy temple]

Well, it is below the arch, not on top of it, look for a crack in the ground around those deadly plants.

That is one way to get there.

Other way is the cliff edge you can find a way to the SAM ore

[glacial totem]

Thanks. I'm just building MORE POWER and then I'll go check it out

[shy temple]

More POWER!

[worn oar]

Kibitz is so unbelievably annoying, from the fake youtuber high enthusiasm voice to the endless invented words and the way he faffs about saying hardly anything of substance but just describing what is happening on the screen. How is he the biggest Satisfactory youtuber? Simply by building big projects?

[shy temple]

Remember, in the world of youtube gaming, popular ones are rarely good ones in the exception of incremental games where popular are the ones who can find game breaking combos

But he actually does put in effort and detail into his world so...

I havent really watched but the odd clips of his

[worn oar]

I'm not hating on the builds, but merely his personality which seems to be both manufactured and cringe at the same time.

[shy temple]

Welcome to the world of youtube

[worn oar]

Lol I guess so

[shy temple]

I hate how much time I spend making stuff pretty.....

[white dawn]

To be fair, "cringe" is in the eye of the beholder. Cringe is something that the viewer allows to happen to themselves, not something produced by whoever's being watched. I've come to really loathe that term. :D

(I have no comment re: Kibitz in particular; I've never watched any of their videos. Just old-man-yelling-at-cloud about language changing. :D)

[glacial totem]

in the lake? Or is that the wrong place

there some opium poppy looking plants

[shy temple]

Wrong place. You saw that screenshot that one user linked?

[glacial totem]

and a power slug

Yeah, I thought I was in the right place, but I'm not

At this point I'll take co-ordinates of the crack in the ground

If you have them

[shy temple]

-240, 2700

[glacial totem]

Holy shit dude I am so far off

[shy temple]

Whoop!

Well, when you start heading there, you will see the big arch

Where are you?

[glacial totem]

in my defense, under an arch

I was at like 252,2152

Ok I found the ore but I fell hard and died. I got it though

[shy temple]

There is actually a sam close to there too!

XD

You were so far off, you were close to another one

[glacial totem]

I don't want to know haha

failed successfully

[shy temple]

800, 2400

[glacial totem]

Am I going to have to do some Elden Ring platforming to make it down successfully

[shy temple]

Other side of the lake where you were, but way up high.

[glacial totem]

Oh fugg there's poison too, I don't have any antidote yet

[shy temple]

Well, there is one more hint though.

There is another entry along the cliff of the void if you search a bit.

[glacial totem]

Can I kill the poison plants?

[shy temple]

Most though end up going down through the crack and finding the cave after 🙂

You can with explosives that are unlocked in sulfur

Should be small sulfer deposits all over that can get you the scan for that

[glacial totem]

So if you die before getting your death crate, is all that shit lost?

[shy temple]

I don't think so

It has been a long time since i have died in this game... I play it like its permadeath.

[haughty otter]

Hi 😄
Depends on your settings :3

[glacial totem]

^was that directed at me?

[haughty otter]

The Hi was a general greeting but my second point was for you, yes 🙂

[glacial totem]

there's a setting regarding death crates?

[haughty otter]

Not exactly from what I can tell.
Just for how much you keep on death.

[glacial totem]

Ok found it

[ornate saffron]

Death crates do not despawn.

[glacial totem]

It's called "keep inventory"

[haughty otter]

I've had multiple deathcrates at once btw

[glacial totem]

thanks.

[haughty otter]

lol there ya go :3

[glacial totem]

I made it down successfully but then a giant spider killed me and I had no defense

my plan is to box it in with giant walls

[haughty otter]

Thats a very valid plan!

[ornate saffron]

So the way the game works is that it only renders what you can see and only spawn creatures when you are in the area. So the spider will not stay in the box. Just giving you a heads up if you have long term box plans

[hard wolf]

I need like 8 depots of concrete 😩

[ornate saffron]

Ya, i just a lot too. Im making 1000/min going into 7 depot

[glacial totem]

no, I managed to get the SAM and evade the spider. I had to ramp myself out of that hellhole, and now I realise I need more SAM

So I'll have to find a better plan long-term

how many iron rods does it take to kill a super spider?

[ornate saffron]

Many....

I make a floating platform and rain death from above using nobolisks. Have a boom box handy so if it jumps up you can drop the bass

[glacial totem]

I don't suppose it's worth putting a miner on it and conveyor lifting it out?

[ornate saffron]

Ya it is

Sam is required eventually

[glacial totem]

ooh ok that would be easier

[ornate saffron]

earlry Advance sam parts are worth a nice chunk of awesome points

[small crypt]

please do not the cat

[ornate saffron]

pester? Cuddle?

[small crypt]

yes

[ornate saffron]

feed biological Mutations

[glacial totem]

yeah I think I'll conveyor them out and never go down there again

[ornate saffron]

ya, I started in the grass lands this playthrough. I quickly grabbed the SAM and brought it to the surface. im just passively feed it into the sink

[cinder fable]

do hyper tubes work vertically ?

[next ivy]

buy wall connections in the shop for example

[cinder fable]

oh i see

is there a way to make the hypertube entrance vertical without the coupon related stuff ?

[next ivy]

impoerting a blueprint that already has it

[cinder fable]

kk

[ornate saffron]

if you need Tickets sinking phase parts, uranium, SAM are all great ways early to get them.

Finding advanced parts like turbo motors or fused frames from crash sits or Lizard Doggos are good sources too

[cinder fable]

gotcha, sinking sam for now then

[small crypt]

you need 41 turbo motors for crash sites, you get 123 so dont sink more than 82