satisfactory

[wise junco]

howdy xSJx!

[glad carbon]

Aight welp, im gonna place all 1920 gens in 3 session i think

[feral vector]

I spent hours figuring out how to make a nice setup with multiple train stations gotta finally use it

[feral vector]

yooo 🙂 how's it going

[white dawn]

One bit of advice, especially on a build like that: I recommend sending the fuel direct from the producing machines to the number of Fuel Gens which that fuel can support. Don't try to combine a bunch of fuel-producing machines into a pipe to try and saturate 600/min or whatever somewhere. Pipes are a lot more forgiving when you're not running at capacity.

And building in modules like that will also let you catch mistakes much more early

[glad carbon]

Nah dw i wasnt gonna combine pipes

[white dawn]

Build out one "module," make sure it's working fine. If there's problems in the piping or whatever, fix it then, and carry on your fixes with the next modules

Lots more opportunity for iterative development without having to redo huge chunks of work

[feral vector]

hmm I guess you don't have much choice when you want to use a full 600 crude from an extractor? that seems to be working well for my plastic factory

[white dawn]

Smart! :D I've seen too many people clutching their heads after realizing that they've spent dozens of hours on huge projects without fully vetting stuff out along the way. :)

[feral vector]

I did make sure all the pipes and all the machines were full before I started running the other stuff that seemed to help

[white dawn]

Oh for sure -- taking from extractors is one area where you just don't have a choice. :)

[glad carbon]

I dont combine pipes unless its only gonna be 2 pipes for water when really needed

[white dawn]

600/min isn't impossible even if you are combining a bunch of stuff into one pipe; it can just be a lot more picky about how you build it, and debugging issues with 600/min flows can be frustrating

[glad carbon]

Ye

[feral vector]

I combine them in stupid ways lol just slap the ends of a manifold together with a long pipe then fork off the end of one of them and up to the gens above

but I also start with all the gens at 10% clock speed so they can fill with fuel and the unpackers will also back up fuel a little bit

[glad carbon]

Unpackers?

You package your fuel?

For your gens?

[feral vector]

yeah the diluted packaged fuel recipe is awesome

[white dawn]

One of the nice things about power-generation equipment is that they'll take in resources even when on "standby" btw. Might be slightly more convenient than sliding the clock slider (or typing in the number)

[wraith widget]

when yall start a new run, do you leave all bp's unlocked and fly mode on?

[white dawn]

Quick lil' button tap instead. :)

[wraith widget]

this games biggest issue is not being able to fly imo

[white dawn]

(Production machines won't take in resources while on standby; the power generation ones act differently)

[white dawn]

Advanced Game Settings -> Fly Mode. :)

[civic ore]

Isn’t that what the hover pack is for. Idk tho I don’t have it

[feral vector]

hmm I'll try that next time

[wraith widget]

yes thats what i was askin, i love it

[feral vector]

you can only hover when close to your power grid

[river ingot]

Nope

[wraith widget]

the hoverpack is so fking slow man

[feral vector]

lol that comment got nuked so fast GJ whoever did that

[civic ore]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[river ingot]

I'm just about to start production for space elevator tier 3 so I've never used it

[river ingot]

I know right
Insanely fast and deserved

[wraith widget]

the game got so much better for me on my second run when i allowed the fly cheat,

all i want is vision

[feral vector]

can't spell bro? too lazy to type this?

[civic ore]

I’m confused what’s this servers stance

[wraith widget]

we eat chocolate

[river ingot]

We charge they phone
Eat hot chip
And build they factory

[feral vector]

you were talking shit cause I used GJ?

idc about grammar you're just a hypocrite lol

[glad carbon]

I can select a power pole, and snap it onto a cabe? Im sorry WHAT

[feral vector]

yeah you got me I'm so angry lol

[river ingot]

Is insufferable to be around
says annoying shit
"get rage baited"
Wonders where all their friends went

[feral vector]

yeah being able to split cables is cool

[river ingot]

Huh????

[glad carbon]

I js found this out by accident

[dense violet]

I'm gone for 5 minutes and what did I miss now?

[feral vector]

if you're placing down a power pole, you can target a power line, it splits the line

[swift quarry]

I learned something new

[civic ore]

Guys do not speak of Israeli war crimes in my comfy factory builder discord

[feral vector]

someone trying really hard to troll lol zzz

[river ingot]

Wait that's awesome I did not know this
Does this work on wall outlets?

[feral vector]

can we talk about palestinian war crimes?

[worn oar]

How do I get the smart mod to not break when creating blueprints?

[feral vector]

how about just don't bring either up lol

[next ivy]

bro cant even embed

[next ivy]

probably ask in the modding server

[river ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/spearhyunho-gif-13383730740069411006

[civic ore]

How goes the Palestinian genocide of the Israelis

[river ingot]

Smelly behavior

[wraith widget]

https://youtu.be/_SrosL0WdOQ?si=QKPteKqGjbT8O0Ln

[glad carbon]

Why does sulfur make me suffer, now i have to setup either a massive belt highway or trains

[feral vector]

perhaps october 7 wasn't a great idea?

[wraith widget]

don toliver stole my girl

[feral vector]

idk why you want to talk about politics here you're getting baited by this square guy lol

[ivory condor]

About as well as Israelis killing of civilians i imagine

[civic ore]

Perhaps you should look up the death count for each side prior to October 7

[dense violet]

other country warcrimes are ok though, got it

[feral vector]

perhaps I don't care

[dense violet]

drones

[next ivy]

#off-topic-general ?

[civic ore]

That’s entirely typical

Nazi German civilian pilled

[wraith widget]

Hungarian

[swift quarry]

Maybe because sulfur and suffer sounds similar

[ivory condor]

Sorry i thought this was Israeli warcrimes chat now

[glad carbon]

Ohhh right i can spam drones now

[feral vector]

yes I'm a Nazi because I have other things to worry about besides two groups who have been murdering each other for ever

[dense violet]

I mean it's mostly been since the 1940s in this situation
Isreal has been slowly taking over bits of the middle east and pushign people out

[river ingot]

This is fake news
I do
I single handedly gave 1 gorbillion to Miss Factory the inventor of factories and Satisfactory

[feral vector]

yeah settlers are assholes for sure

[civic ore]

Brother just say glory to the idf so we can move on

[swift quarry]

I prefer the term "Almost Smart"

[wraith widget]

factorio funded satisfactory

[feral vector]

something something both sides zzz

[civic ore]

Close enough

[dense violet]

exactly. It's been a slow ethnic cleanse for 50 years and now it's just ramped up.
You can't expect zero retaliation

[ivory condor]

Of course, only dumb humans would kill each other over land, humanity is the definition of stupid

[grim carbon]

ok, i have a question about the game

[dense violet]

not allowed

[grim carbon]

i come here to talk about the game and you're all talkiing about the war in the middle east

[river ingot]

There are companies running in my country that are trying help help people move into illegal settlements
Its fucked up

[dense violet]

yuuuuup, part of the cleansing

[civic ore]

There is no war in tel-aviv

[ivory condor]

Yet

[grim carbon]

anyway

[civic ore]

https://tenor.com/view/there-is-no-war-in-ba-sing-se-avatar-the-last-airbender-atla-no-war-there-is-no-war-gif-15884087966518847999

[dense violet]

There's no war in Lebanon now. Just friendly civilian murder.

[feral vector]

yeah they just get rockets shot at them 24/7 no big deal lol

[swift quarry]

Friendly?

[dense violet]

it's not a war, gots to be friendly right? 😛

[feral vector]

what's the game question you gotta save the chat

[civic ore]

Damn that’s crazy, I heard Germany also went through this struggle during their genocide

[river ingot]

They where being sarcastic lol

[feral vector]

sucks starting a war you can't win I guess

[swift quarry]

Nah must be the norm there

[grim carbon]

i have an oil extractor feeding 8 refineries that makes polyresin which is further converted into plastic

[dense violet]

look, I can never really blame people for not picking up on sarcasm. Satire is in fact dead

[river ingot]

Israel started it nearly 50 years ago I'm sorry but you're just incorrect and spreading propaganda

[civic ore]

Bro thinks Palestinian-Israeli relations began October 7th 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[grim carbon]

if i put 2 more power shards in it, an i just expand the amount of fuel-powered generators?

[civic ore]

If the belts can carry it and the maths works out yes

[dense violet]

as long as you don't go over belt/pipe limits

[grim carbon]

they are mk5 belts

will it be ok if i upgrade the pipes to mk2?

[ivory condor]

Really though #off-topic-general

[dense violet]

I don't hold all those numbers in my brain, that's what https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production is for

[river ingot]

If you out in power shards it'll just over clock it
So it'll need more resources in but it'll spit more out
As long as you're feeding it enough it'll spit out more fuel

[dense violet]

so plan the numbers out, just don't go over your limits

[grim carbon]

i don't hold anyting in my brain

[civic ore]

I’m afraid you need mod status for that to work

[swift quarry]

I'm so stupid. For some reason I thought I need to use my biomass burners to keep making coal and water for coal power and didn't think that the coal power will just power itself

[ivory condor]

[river ingot]

Lmao

[grim carbon]

we all have to learn sometime

[dense violet]

so what are the recipes you're using and what is the final output you want?

[grim carbon]

i made asecond plot with more refineries making plastic from resin, but it shorted my fuses cos i ha too much power going out without putting enough in

[dense violet]

yeah I was going ot put it into the planner for that I'd need numbers

[grim carbon]

i'd like to increase the production of plastic so i can sustain my machines for the assembly director parts to be put together

[dense violet]

something like this? https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=kpRkw183o5MnmiVeJzKs

[dense violet]

you might as well use the base recipe though from the looks

you use a little bit less oil with the Resin recipe but make a bit less fuel. and it's more steps

[grim carbon]

man that page has messed up

[dense violet]

just use the base recipes honeslty https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=j4S9X9DWqiPECNNkayi6

[grim carbon]

i don't like how all that looks, so i use the modeler

[dense violet]

modeler takes 10x as long and if you ever want to change a recipe you have to basically re do the whoile thing

[swift quarry]

Whats the point of the lizard doggo. When I kill it. It doesn't drop anything?

[dense violet]

you can also just move around the bubbles

if you want to 'change how it looks'

[grim carbon]

i can' do that much easier in the modeler

[dense violet]

I've used modeler
I absolutely know that it's much faster in tools checking and unchecking a box to change the whole plan

objectively

[grim carbon]

neither one tell you how much of each item you need to actually make what you need

they just show you how much per minute

[dense violet]

what?

it does both

in the last link it shows you you need 300 oil pm to get 200 plastic pm

that means if you want to make just 200 plastic, you'll need 300 oil
it's very straight forward

[grim carbon]

i apologise

i guess i haven't given it as much use or thought as you have

[dense violet]

the reason why everything is always calced pm is because resources are infinite and the game is designed around constant production/consumption

as the cycles of recipes are generally very different from step to step the actual x items to make y items is ... not a very useful information past like 1 step , and even then not really.

and if it's just one step the recipe tells you how much you need in 1 cycle

[grim carbon]

i need to to give the tools website a little more love, i do suppose

[dense violet]

it's very very good for building fast plan and altering them witih a couple clicks to compare the resource and machine changes

if you want to compare 2 plans directly just open 2 tabs side by side

you can clone tabs then pop it out

[grim carbon]

as i have just seen from the link you put up earlier

[dense violet]

make edits, ect

[grim carbon]

pop it out?

[dense violet]

pinged you in SS

like you have the different paths in the same window like modeler but that's an extremely minor thing and this is basically exactly the same thing

plus you get all the advantages tools brings

[grim carbon]

the one difference i've tried in the tools, is you can't remove a node like you can in the modeler

which is also a minor thing

[civic ore]

I’m getting my oil refineries set up, I have 900pm crude oil, what split should I be looking at of plastic/rubber/fuel

[wise junco]

as much as you need right now tbh

i always go hardest on power

[grim carbon]

the website is kinda slow

[dense violet]

not sure what you mean by can't move a node, you can move them around as you like

[river ingot]

It depends on what you're after
Power is usually a good one to focus on
This is my power setup
#math-and-meta message

[dense violet]

click and drag 🙂

[dense violet]

without alt recipe, early on you'll use more plastic than rubber

[feral vector]

my bad had to finish dinner. You mean the first time Palestine jumped into a war they couldn't win? The UN voted to partition British-ruled territories, Israel accepted, Palestine said no and wanted to fight. Palestine got their asses kicked and instead of Israel getting 56% of the territory they ended up with 78% of the territory

[feral vector]

lots of plastic, use the byproduct to make fuel

yall make me want to try using modeler instead of tools

[river ingot]

The numbers are a little funny but that's because I made a massive train line for sulfur and coal and then did the math from there

[civic ore]

I find your political views abhorrent and wrong but your in game knowledge vitally useful so I shall hereby deem you this servers Wernher von Braun and go on my way sir

[feral vector]

lol sorry we can stop talking about it. I think Israel is way way out of line, for what it's worth.

[river ingot]

Also with the turbo fuel setup its MASSIVE
So the rest of the Crude you could use just for plastic/rubber
#design-and-architecture message

[feral vector]

I really need to take the time to make something look nice, I spend all my brainpower figuring out how to get stuff functional then get lazy

I made a big ass train depot and didn't leave room underneath for a logistics floor 😭

[whole robin]

I hope a mod comes out that puts a model of benjamin netanyahu over hogs so i can fufill my life's goal of killing him repeatedly in my favorite game

[plucky bone]

Well the 2nd start is going so much nicer. Picked the dune desert I think. Desert anyway.

[feral vector]

lol you make me want to read the blocked msgs

[feral vector]

I'm trying soooo hard not to restart

I feel like all past me has done this playthrough is make decisions to make current me's life harder

[plucky bone]

I just finished my first playthrough. Had SF for ages but just started playing about a month ago. I think bout 500 hrs for my first run.

[whole robin]

Copypasta 💔

[feral vector]

damn lol I'm at like 400 hours in phase 4, I'm done all the milestones just haven't worked on the phase 4 parts yet

[ivory condor]

Well Israelis warcrimes is definitely something to see

[shy temple]

Aaah, politics....

I love a good political debate, but this is satisfactory

and I am curious as to how I get one of those maps showing my factory layout to screenshare.

[whole robin]

I can't tell whether or not Cubing is a bot

[ivory condor]

Im a certified bot

[whole robin]

Are you implying my mother is a clanker?

[faint willow]

anyone know the ratio off-rip for coal power? trying to see how much copper i need to snag

[shy temple]

@feral vector Yup, just like that

[feral vector]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

upload your save file here 🙂

it's also an incredibly powerful tool, you can edit stuff on there

[river ingot]

I think there's a program on steam for it

[shy temple]

I am pre steam player. So alas, epic games

Now to figure out, do I just screencapture it?

or is there an image export button

[ivory condor]

I loved the game so much i have gotten it multiple times

Aka already have for epic and steam

[dense violet]

look up satisfactory calculator

google it - it's a webpage

[shy temple]

I considered it, but alas, I got too many IRL expenses.

Yeah, in calculator, Used it before. Reloaded it now again. Just curious how to export the map

[dense violet]

take a screen shot

[shy temple]

o7

[wise junco]

almost done with turbomotors and thermal propulsion rockets... almost bye-bye to p4

[sinful moth]

Any news about 1.2

[hollow mountain]

do you guys make supercomputer all in one place of use train?

[dense violet]

#announcements

[dense violet]

either works

[hollow mountain]

i mean you guys personaly

[dense violet]

you on'y need 3 resources for SCs w/o alts, fairly easy to manage

I've done both 🙂 But doing it in one spot is pretty easy with planning

[hollow mountain]

fair i guess i need to up my game

i already have computer

[dense violet]

you can reduce it to 2 resources if you have the right alts

[hollow mountain]

like electrode circuit board?

[latent prawn]

that recipe is situationally good, but for making a lot of cb's, the recipe uses quite a bit of oil and power

tbh, now that cb's aren't really used in any building stuff, the recipe doesn't have much practical use

[hollow mountain]

i need a bunch of them for milestone but i guess ill just handcraft

[latent prawn]

you can also stick materials in crates and let a machine churn over it.

[hollow mountain]

true

[worn oar]

Is there a consensus on what sloops are BEST used in? I've been using them so far to sloop fuel and turbo-fuel producing machines, and final project part assemblers/manufacturers

I have 23 of them

[latent prawn]

well, 10 APA's will double your power and give you an extra 10gw on top of that

[worn oar]

True but I've been holding off on serious exploration until I have great fuel for the jetpack

[latent prawn]

in general though, if you ignore the APA's, the consensus is that slooping the last production step is the best use for them

[worn oar]

Ok thanks I'll keep it on project parts then

[river ingot]

Can you use sloops in power generators or are you using them to make the turbo fuel itself

[worn oar]

I'm just using it to get more turbofuel per oil until I figure out what they're better in

Which is project parts probably

[river ingot]

I've got 282 gens ready to start burning turbo fuel
Should of thought about sloops before I placed everything lol

[worn oar]

I'm thinking of making a backup 7.5GW liquid biofuel plant to give me some headroom before nuclear

But turbofuel is pretty great already

[latent prawn]

i'd spend that effort just making more turbofuel rather than screwing with lbf

[hollow hemlock]

pretty amusing though, harvest the wildlife and turn them into sweet sweet oil

[worn oar]

Gah I forgot to put a DD on motors, rookie move

[wise junco]

Ooooops

[feral vector]

liquid biofuel is fine for exploring, use ladders or ramps to go vertically

or power towers with ziplines lol that's how I explore most of the time, just daisy chain power towers and zipline all over

the place range on those things is ridiculous

[willow pond]

i love setting up something only to realize that i need to redo almost all of it

can we have some kind of deconstruction nobelisk that will mass crate stuff for us

[obtuse hearth]

bro my gpu usage is at 111 percent rn wtf 😭 🥀

[dense violet]

caterium actually

[hollow mountain]

Did you put a power charge in your pc?

[dense violet]

here https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=tlbmYiVxZgQ8X2GIDBGR

[hollow mountain]

Can you send in dm im going to bed

[dapper cave]

Fuse Broken

[worn oar]

Setting up 2400 petroleum coke into generators instead of sinking it was a mistake

[river ingot]

Ficsit never wastes

[worn oar]

I hate dealing with water

[swift quarry]

I was told water was hard to deal with but it doesn't seem that bad to me

[sterile blade]

Different people have different challenges~
Some happen to "align" well with how pipes work in the game

[cursive topaz]

Guys can you use petroleum coke for steel?

[swift quarry]

Just pump it on the roof of the build with storage and then let in fall down from the ceiling and it works well for me

[cursive topaz]

It only needs to be higher than the input of the machine, and you don’t even need a fluid buffer, just a inverted u

[worn oar]

It's an alternate

[cursive topaz]

So I have to get lucky with hard drives

[worn oar]

Yeppers

[normal orbit]

Coke Steel Ingot recipe. ye

[cursive topaz]

Does anyone know if there is a list of total materials needed to complete each phase

Is that a thing

[swift quarry]

Is there a height limit?

[swift quarry]

Can't you math it. Or are you trying to avoid that?

[cursive topaz]

Yea for the phase I am on

I want a map so I know how much is safe to over produce without wasting time

[untold moat]

SCIM has both a map as well as each milestone's requirements. Although something to be aware of is that unlike a lot of other factory automation games, nodes never run out of material, there is just a limited amount of nodes in the world, so the name of the game isn't efficient use of materials, but efficient use of the throughput you have

[jolly solstice]

for pioneers there is, after a certain point you start getting damaged
unsure about buildings though

also gives you an achievement once you reach max height

[swift quarry]

Would you say this limit is really high?

[jolly solstice]

for me yep, definitely

[cursive topaz]

Thanks, I am aware of the infinity of a 100ft by 100 ore deposit, but it’s my time I don’t want to waist

I’m just the 10 or so mins I have been afk I have already made like 200 versatile frameworks

[untold moat]

and also, all space elevator parts are also used further down the line, so unless you are on the last phase, you can be fine with over producing a bit.

[cursive topaz]

Gotta love somersloop

[untold moat]

also there is lots of things you can do since the entire world loads at once. I would recommend building up production up to early steel/motor compontents as you will be using a lot of them in the future

hard drive hunting is also a good thing to do if you are waiting

[cursive topaz]

Yea, I have done a fair bit, and ran into the ungodly horror monsters that are stingers

The first time I ran Into one I swear I almost died

[untold moat]

the trick is to be skilled with a big stick, or bring lots of dakka with you

[hard wolf]

drive hunting is good for stockpiling random materials that can be used to unlock tiers or even other crash sites. especially if you have the manual depot uploader unlocked

[worn oar]

Does anyone know of a way to turn off power producers when they are not needed (creating a backup grid)? Other than the biomass burners

[hard wolf]

my first thought is to put the last part of the process before the generators on a priority power grid. it would be really nice to have a power controller that can push a standby update to everything connected to it.

though I guess that first bit doesn't really help if you don't have the power to run (for example) the turbofuel refineries. you could build the generators high enough that they require pumps and put the pumps on a separate grid, though, that way pipes and refineries would at least stockpile fuel and then you wouldn't have to worry about a huge hit to power when you activate your backup grid

[untold moat]

why would you want to turn them off? if you need a backup grid, you can just have a switch next to a large bank of power storages

[worn oar]

So I can use liquid biofuel or biocoal as a backup without it running all the time

[untold moat]

biocoal
<loads scatter rebar with holy intent>

[hard wolf]

I think the pump thing would work with liquid biofuel. biocoal as well if you use the pump idea on the water lines

[untold moat]

though in all seriousness, I would connect the generators to a smaller grid (before feeding them) and trip the grid. then reisolate the tripped grid, and start feeding the gens. they will not turn on until someone goes over and resets their grid. the downside is that any grid that connects to them directly will immediately trip

[worn oar]

Hmm okay I'll try that

The foolproof method would be packaged liquid biofuel, but I'd prefer not to triple my plastic just to sink it into empty canisters of all things LOL

[fiery pewter]

I have a question to the people who power trucks or tractors with batteries

Does it still produce exhaust smoke?

[hard wolf]

can you put part of a packager/unpackager loop on a separate grid?

[fiery pewter]

Because that would imply the pioneer litterally burns through the batteries

[fiery pewter]

Steel canister:
Coated canister:

[cursive crane]

Yep

[glad carbon]

I js relised every time i save to get off my hours in my world go up by 20+ hours 😭😭

[obsidian zodiac]

mornin gamers

[glad carbon]

20 hours a day of satisfactory

[glad carbon]

Mornin'

[hard wolf]

evenin xwx

[leaden turret]

if Linus is on CM team, Linus-led dev stream, when?

[obsidian zodiac]

linus is a shy guy

[glad carbon]

The blender wall, it dawns on me

[obsidian zodiac]

also linus has to feed me my lines

[green fiber]

New non-teaser-related behind the scenes video on stuff soon™ ?

[leaden turret]

Linus-led vtuber dev stream, when?

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac still hoping for that traditional patch notes commentary stream

[green fiber]

You guys have that awesome Jason 3D model for Linus to use as a VTuber model

[leaden turret]

exactly

[green fiber]

Oops! All Jason

[leaden turret]

||can even start it off as a jason-led dev stream, then switch views to mocap vtuber scene||

[hard wolf]

so like 1 item per minute into a double industrial buffer into a depot is good enough for everything but concrete, plastic, and belt materials, right?

[reef basin]

depends heavily on how fast and how much you build

but generally I'd say yeah, build some small amount and if you keep running out, just build more

[cursive crane]

When is that mocap dance gonna be added in game for the pioneer

I demand a dozen more emotes

[obsidian zodiac]

maybe one this summer! theyre a bit time intensive. next video will be a 1.2 check in in the next week or two

[obsidian zodiac]

tuesday!

[green fiber]

Sounds exciting already

[obsidian zodiac]

ill prepare the package for emmet, its up for him to deliver it

[cursive crane]

Emmmeeettt

Love usssss

[hard wolf]

the idea is that if the game runs long enough to fill 2x industrial storage containers with something like fused modular frames that can then be fed into a depot at max speed I probably shouldn't have to worry about output after that. I'm building a gigastructure over the rocky desert and planning it out so that I have excess infrastructure for stuff I can't automate yet, so once I unlock a new resource I'll be able to tack on a few more production lines and have it automated on short notice. I often boot the session up and then do a bunch of math to plan my current project out properly, but the problems arise when I need to use a ton of something like concrete, and despite being on the cusp of having to expand my project parts factory to automate phase 4, don't really know what I need yet. add my tight and clustered building style to that, and it becomes a huge mess that's hard to add lower tier resources on to :|

[reef basin]

my point was that if you use on average more than 1/min, you'll eventually run out. Of course you should put containers in front of depots, but if you find the need to afk for resources, then you didn't automate enough 🙂

[hard wolf]

I'm at least not afking for concrete with my current outputs. plastic might be a different story once I start building out the floor of this factory :/

[ripe basin]

Gigastructures?

[worn oar]

I ended up going with coated canister, 30 GW liquid biofuel plant is now online! Thanks everyone. #screenshots message

[ripe basin]

I have one of those

I mean its not really giga, its just really tall

The tower of shame

[empty bridge]

Hi All. Is there a way to increase the range of the handheld scanner?

[spice patio]

Not in base game, no idea about mods.

[empty bridge]

thank you. How do you find crash sites?

I'm looking for hard drives

[ocean leaf]

radar tower + local scan with scanner. Before radar tower, by stumbling over them 😄

[worn oar]

The intended way is to go to the bottom of the quartz tree where you can then scan them

[dense violet]

you can eventually scan for them, radar towers, and mostly just getting to high points and looking for yellow wreckage

they are very visible

[glad carbon]

How do i make it so my blueprints connect more than half a foundation away? Rather than disconnecting the second i go beyond half a foundation?

[empty bridge]

thanks

[worn oar]

Snap the connection points together instead of dragging away

And then it will drag the connection out as far as it can and the second click confirms it

[glad carbon]

Wha?

[worn oar]

If you push up a blueprint against another in the correct facing direction for the belts, it will display a link and possibly also turn yellow. First click holds that connection, then you drag it whereever and second click places the blueprint

Just do it, I don't know a better way to explain

[fluid sapphire]

Basically you can still move it after locking in the connection

[glad carbon]

Oh my fuck im a dumbass 😭😭😭😭😭

Okay thx i figured it out 😭😭

[worn oar]

Yeah that was my reaction also when I discovered I didn't have to manually connect them

[glad carbon]

Yay now time to figure out how to make train work

[hard wolf]

I'm not certain that this counts, and I'm adding some extra supports under the main floor before I start building it out, but definitely larger than a megastructure. the back of this building will extend to just before the world border #screenshots message

[sudden tide]

how tf animals get inside closed factories

[worn oar]

Public transit

[ripe basin]

Okay so you cant call my tower of shame a gigastructure
More like
Nanostructure

[hard wolf]

if you can see that bit of foundation above the water that extends past the pillars, that's just before the world border

[hard wolf]

don't shame the products of your ambition :3

[ripe basin]

I mean like
First 2 floors are decoratend and other 12 are not

[ocean leaf]

these are unannounced inspections for worker security etc. 😄

[ripe basin]

Because im lazy

[worn oar]

Any suggestions on how to decorate my biofuel plant? #screenshots message

[hard wolf]

look up something you like followed by architecture (for me it's sci-fi and/or brutalist + architecture), install pureref (they're not paying me, I downloaded that today). drag all of the pictures into that new software, and get to work #screenshots message

[worn oar]

Thank you!

[leaden turret]

see also https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=("coal plant" OR "fuel plant") AND architecture AND NOT interior

[hard wolf]

^w^

[leaden turret]

or get meta and do a https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=weatherwax

[worn oar]

Since when is a lizard doggo smuggling 17 computers across the forest border 👀

[leaden turret]

better question is where is a lizard doggo smuggling 17 computers

[worn oar]

I never look a gift lizard in the mouth

[hard wolf]

imo it's best to look to sources outside of the satisfactory comunity. you'll get cooler stuff that way, especially if they're looking for the same stuff you are

[leaden turret]

looking inside means you get an idea of the scope of what's possible

[hard wolf]

and looking outside might mean you lead yourself to build methods others didn't apply to their own work

[leaden turret]

don't underestimate how weird the satisfactory community is

[hard wolf]

don't underestimate the creativity of each individual human mind :3

[coral moon]

Is the experimental version worth playing?

[cursive crane]

Do it and tell us if you see daylight through the tunnel
It would confirm something
For science of course..

[cursive crane]

SF experimentals are usually pretty stable, but still meant to help find bugs and the like
If you want to try the new content planned ahead of time its worth. But do so knowing its possible you could have some bugs

backup your saves

[leaden turret]

only one EXP patch left before main release

so if your save encounters any undiscovered issues and you haven't tried it, you'd be SOL for a while 😛

[dense violet]

when you want things to be pretty you kinda have to take the whole layout plan in advance before you actually build it

otherwise you wind up with a box and wonder what the hell to do

[exotic frigate]

Radar tower time

[ocean leaf]

says who?

[fluid sapphire]

one of my trucks randomly decided to stop moving, was just sitting there with no error or anything, i sat inside it for a split second and it started moving again, wtf

[leaden turret]

says Mikael

[ocean leaf]

Do you have a source for that? Would be suprised if they confirm that already before they know if the patch actually fixes the reported issues...

[leaden turret]

this week's dev stream

[hard wolf]

one exp patch before I replace the belt to station cluster with belt to truck stop to station infrastructure :3

[ocean leaf]

Indeed, I am suprised 😄

[pure orbit]

If factories are your power, then what are you without it

[orchid tendon]

a pioneer

[fluid sapphire]

maybe my trucks will finally stop behaving like weirdos

[tough dock]

what tier does satisfactory jump up in difficulty cause im at tier 5 at 43 hours and its a bit hard at times but not as bad some say.

[fluid sapphire]

there are multiple points where the game increases in complexity, tier 5 is one of those i believe

tier 7 another, you could say

i dont think there is a sudden jump anywhere honestly, though

[tough dock]

but oil production doesn't even look hard.

[fluid sapphire]

other than maybe... phase 4 in general can make you feel like suddenly you have a lot on your plate

nothing is "hard" necessarily, it all depends on how you tackle stuff

[tough dock]

do you even need a lot of different factories / a mega factory to beat the game?

[fluid sapphire]

megafactory is a gameplay style where all your production is in one place, you absolutely do not need to do that

[subtle ledge]

elloo i got a bit of a problem with splitting and merging belts would be nice if i could get some help

[fluid sapphire]

but a lot of different factories, absolutely

[fluid sapphire]

#1038092680493801533

[subtle ledge]

my bad thought i could also send it in hier aswell thx though

[fluid sapphire]

ah, i didnt know you already made a post, but there is no info in your post either

[empty bridge]

is the gas mask and filter worth building?

[glad carbon]

Howwww do i train 😭😭😭 i follow the tutorial exactly, and the t junction just says its looping into itself 😭😭

[fluid sapphire]

move the signals back from where the rail splits just a bit

[next ivy]

pick up the signals, and place them further away from where they were originally

[fluid sapphire]

if you have nobelisks, its more of a convenience than anything, they are used to produce iodine filters too later

[glad carbon]

Thats was the issue THE WHOLE TIME? I REWATCHED THAT VIDEO 15 TIMES 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[next ivy]

wild thing is, that this has apparently been in the game for ages now

[dense violet]

finish the rail, if the path isn't finished it'll be weird

[spice patio]

1.1 bug/feature for path signals.
Wasn't problem before.

[glad carbon]

Cant the trains be like trucks are in the next update

Thatd make my life 1000 times easier

[dense violet]

trucks are like trains in the next update

[leaden turret]

elaborate on how?

[next ivy]

trucks being like trains makes life easier

it would be hell the other way around

[glad carbon]

Like with the next update you place the paths for the trucks, and that i wish was sorta the same for trains

[leaden turret]

looks at train tracks

[glad carbon]

Like having to place the paths themselves rather than using this complex system

[glad carbon]

I am and my eyes are struggling 😭

[leaden turret]

oh is that just cos of the segment colours when sticking signals down?

[next ivy]

literally the same as train tracks

[hard wolf]

multiple questions:
a) if you want to stand your ground on a t3 hog, if you plant a pulse nobelisk under your feet, prime a nuclear nobelisk, and plant it on the hog's nose as soon as it's in range, will the sequential detonation of the nobelisks spare you from the nuke?

[fluid sapphire]

its not actually that complex once you wrap your head around it

[hard wolf]

b) if my train is outputting less per minute than what i'm feeding in to it, is the route too long? do I need to add another train?

[glad carbon]

See i cant comprehend simple mechanics 😭

[fluid sapphire]

you just havent wrapped your head around it yet

[fluid sapphire]

how long is the route? how long does your supply last?

[leaden turret]

looks at skull

head not suitable for wrapping around things in general 🥁

[next ivy]

is your supply station filling up more than the request station is emptying with each trip

[hard wolf]

it's from the snake tree forest to the central lake, branching in to and out of my transcontinental loop, and It's not supplying enough limestone to feed my aluminum factory. I worry that the quartz, sulfur, and coal lines will also underfeed once I've got limestone outputting properly

[fluid sapphire]

that doesnt say much, i mean in terms of time, how long does a round trip take? how many cars does this train have?

how much is it supposed to supply?

[leaden turret]

@void gorge if vehicles are closer to trains in 1.2, does that mean vehicle trailers could be a thing going forward?

[tall lantern]

add caravans to the game

[cursive crane]

That would actually be cool

Running wiggle wagons would so make sf a truck simulator lol

[leaden turret]

caravans, or caravans

HUB caravan

[glad carbon]

I wonder if they ever gonna add more phases or a bigger map :p

[next ivy]

at most an addition to the map, but very likely not

[tall lantern]

not any time soon if ever, probably

[leaden turret]

hannah, who worked on the map for 6-8 years, would go "ahahahahahahahaha " to one of those.

guess which 😛

[fluid sapphire]

bigger map? what, is it not big enough for you? 😄

[glad carbon]

More, i want more to explore, more to exploit

[leaden turret]

current map is only a half-manhattan, why not full-manhattan?

[fluid sapphire]

get back to me when you have exploited the entire current map

[glad carbon]

Is this a challenge?

[fluid sapphire]

maybe? dont do it though, your game will turn into a slideshow, literally

[glad carbon]

Im used to playing on low fps

[fluid sapphire]

make that fps into spf

[rough shore]

mpf?

[fluid sapphire]

seconds per frame

[rough shore]

no im asking what about mpf? possible?

[fluid sapphire]

probably?

if your cooling can take it?

[rough shore]

im really cool

[glad carbon]

My playstation can return to the era of when it was a jet engine

I give it all right to

[fluid sapphire]

oh, on playstation i would expect that the save would just not load

past a certain point

if you want mapwide shenanigans you will have to do it on pc

[glad carbon]

Trust it can handle, its handling 1/7 (something like that) of the map covered in factory and foundations perfectly okay

[fluid sapphire]

it cant, there have already been reports of saves not loading on console when they get too hardcore

foundations are lightweight

how much power are you using? that should be some kind of indication

[glad carbon]

Like 100k MW

[fluid sapphire]

yeah thats not too bad

[frail sleet]

I mean even on PC, you end up using 32-64GB of RAM just for the game process if you use all of the map resources. Consoles don't have that much RAM.

[fluid sapphire]

yeah

[glad carbon]

And as i said earlier rn working on placing nearly 2000 fuel gens :p

[rough shore]

consoles built different tho fr

[frail sleet]

I'm using like 1/3'rd of all resources, but not in the most efficient way (lots of belting stuff around instead of consuming it at the node, etc) and it's already breaking the game to the point where i don't super want to continue with it any more (process consumes 16GB of RAM, game crashes, visual artifacts like belts and foundations flashing in and out of existance, nasty stuttering, third party tools won't load etc)

[rough shore]

they genuinely have genetics u either get one that lasts or one that dies 2 seconds in

[glad carbon]

I trust in my 16GB of console ram

[hard wolf]

both of my trains are ~6:55 minutes from honk to honk. 4 cars each, 2 for coal and 2 for quartz on the first train, and 3 for limestone & 1 for sulfur on the second. my output goals are (train 1) 960 quartz on car 1, 840 quartz on car 2, 960 coal on car 3, 720 coal on car 4, as well as (train 2) 960 limestone on car 1, 960 limestone on car 2, 1080 limestone on car 3, & 840 sulfur on car 4

[supple canopy]

there is silica rng for PC too (for chips in general)

[fluid sapphire]

honk to honk, so this includes loading and unloading time?

[hard wolf]

yeah

[fluid sapphire]

for a start i can tell you, a car carrying 3200 coal cant supply 960 per minute for 7 minutes

this supply lasts more like 3 minutes and 20 seconds

you can do similar math for the other cars

just divide the amount of stuff in the car with the expected per minute supply, this will tell you how long the supply lasts in practice

[twin parcel]

unless you use faster belts

[frail sleet]

belts don't matter there

[fluid sapphire]

it doesnt matter, it takes too long for the train to make the round trip

loading time isnt really a factor, the platforms are very easily loaded in that time

[twin parcel]

add more cars

[frail sleet]

I would say add more trains if throughput is below 1 belt per cart, otherwise add carts.

you can go either way, but more trains means smaller stations and buffers.

[hard wolf]

would splitting off all the lines into 1 car per resource be enough?

(for a 3rd train)

[fluid sapphire]

more identical trains and a waiting area would probably be the simplest solution honestly

[frail sleet]

the simplest thing to do is duplicate the one that you already have. Then it will arrive twice as often, and pick up + drop off 2x as much stuff per minute.

[rough shore]

make each cart supply 1 coal a minute

[fluid sapphire]

in this case they would need at least 3 identical trains though?

[frail sleet]

For good measure yeah

[fiery pewter]

Liquid biofuel meaning you're gonna have a 9-5 to keep it running

[fluid sapphire]

considering that halving it would still be under the target, and the loading time is also doubled on both ends

[hard wolf]

so 3 of each train?

[rough shore]

why not 5

[frail sleet]

The "only depart while full" option can be helpful, but it comes with a couple of quirks.

I think it departs when ANY cart is full, not all of them, but that should be okay here?

Otherwise it prevents excess train dockings which lock resources in/out, and it prevents excess train traffic over the network since every train that passes through it is full (instead of being like half empty)

[fluid sapphire]

mixed trains can get complicated

[frail sleet]

Yeah

[fluid sapphire]

not a big fan personally, i like my trains stupid xd

much easier

never ceases to shock me just how well this game runs - dozens of kilometers of belts with thousands of items on them, hundreds of machines nearby and still a perfectly playable framerate

[native tapir]

I wish they would optimize it slightly less tbh lol. They're making it too good. Harder and harder to find quality jank these days.

[frail sleet]

All you have to do to find jank is build a junction with 2 specific connection points at different heights. Then you get infinite headlift, flow prioritisation, flow blocking etc because of 1 wrong line of code. Been documented for 3-4 years but the exact cause was found (down to the specific line of code) and documented in much greater detail last year. It's being ignored and even ridiculed by employees.. IDK why since it's such a simple problem/fix and it causes pretty widespread issues for many players, most of whom don't know why their pipes are not working.

[stoic arch]

Has anyone experienced a bug where friend's markers aren't showing up on the map?

[pure orbit]

If pioneer are your power then what are you without it

[abstract spade]

i dont think socrates was able to play satisfactory while he was alive

just a wild guess

[dense violet]

he's alive right now? what are you talking about?

[leaden turret]

the only true efficiency is in knowing you automate nothing

[unkempt blade]

all I know is fluids are going to be even more perfect than they already are in 1.2

[abstract spade]

wait youre right my bad

i feel honored to be able to talk to him

[ivory condor]

Fluid trucks

[rough shore]

fluid conveyors

[leaden turret]

pipe lift

[ivory condor]

Welcome to U2😹

[cold berry]

It just lifts the whole pipe up and down. Liquid pours out during the lift, but a little stays sloshing in the pipe.

Efficiency

[leaden turret]

nah, buckets on a chain

[jolly flax]

Aye anyone know when 1.2 is comin

[cold berry]

Okay but that would go hard and I was shit posting

[jolly flax]

[ornate saffron]

No time annouced

[leaden turret]

only one patch left in EXP before it goes live, patch is due next week

[jolly flax]

I noticed a new bundle regarding satisfactory

Orange smth

[civic ore]

Does it tell me how much fuel I need for a given train route? Im just setting it up never needed to fuel a vehicle before

[cold berry]

I'm excited for it to go stable. That's the first step towards mods and there is one I really miss. I hope the Dev is active lol

(cartograph)

[ornate saffron]

Trains use electricity

[jolly flax]

Im sure vehicles carrying water, wont be abused by Lets game it out

[cold berry]

But vanilla 1.2 has been very fun. The new features are awesome

[jolly flax]

[civic ore]

Wait so wtf is the point of fuel and turbo fuel and all that

[unreal sand]

A bundle of star rupture and satisfactory

[jolly flax]

Jetpack

[civic ore]

It surely can’t be just for jet packs and trucks no one uses

[jolly flax]

Oooo

[unreal sand]

Fuel power plants

[cold berry]

Trucks and tractors, which are still good for short-medium distance logistics. Also fuel plants yeah

I use trucks past trains. Hey. That's me.

[jolly flax]

Make turbo fuel generators setup
To start it you will need a shit load of batteries

[earnest condor]

How do you make electricity?

[civic ore]

And just to be clear, this isn’t coal power run on fuel, there’s an actual “fuel powerplant”?

[jolly flax]

Yes

[civic ore]

I boil water

[earnest condor]

Also I use trucks far more than I use trains... so "no one uses" is a bit of a stretch.

[slim frost]

you craft it

[jolly flax]

I boil potatoes in water

[unreal sand]

Yes?

[civic ore]

I mean now I know I don’t have to run fuel all over the place for my trains but I do for trucks it’s kinda crazy the difference in ease of building

[cold berry]

I have a truck network fueled by a train that drops off fuel at outposts. Then those trucks gather the local resources and brings them to my factories.

Because I like using all the tools I guess lol. Then trains move parts between factories, too.

[earnest condor]

There are more differences. 🤷‍♂️

[cold berry]

I use trucks/tractors for the raws, then I use trains for processed things and fueling the trucks.

Trains move raws in special circumstances, trucks move processed parts in special circumstances.

[civic ore]

Is it advisable to have a separate train track for each use you need?

[earnest condor]

It is advisable to do trains however you, personally, want to do them.

[normal orbit]

god no

[rough shore]

bro what

[earnest condor]

We are not related.

[cold berry]

I also like to put middle-process factories on the way to my destination. Would it be more convenient for my raw ore to come in as bars to save space? Trucks stop at a smelting factory, empty their inventory and then pop out the other side to pick up a stack of bars to take. One truck, one job.

[civic ore]

I understand that but I’d much rather build this once instead of figuring out what works now over painful demolish and rebuilding multiple times

[cold berry]

I've got a dumb question I just realized. If I copy a truck, does it copy the name and work orders too? Like machines? That'd be pretty sick

[earnest condor]

Most people use the dual-track method and have all trains on the same rail.

But you can use the stack-track method and have 1 rail per. This method avoids the need to learn signals entirely and is simpler, but costs more space.

So whichever you, personally, feel like using.
Both work. 🤷‍♂️

If you need more words:

Think about the giant-ass canyon on the north side of the map.
Dual-track would be 2 rails side by side. One being the west-east rail and the other being the east-west rail. All trains would share these 2 rails and take turns going on them (or queue up in lines based on how you signal).

Stack-track method would just have as many rails as you needed going vertically as you add more. Trains would never wait, never intersect, never even be aware that other trains exist. No signaling needed.

[fluid sapphire]

signaling is 100% worth learning

[quartz salmon]

Is 60 computers a minute enough to beat the game with?

[fluid sapphire]

easily

[earnest condor]

Worth is subjective to the individual 🤷‍♂️

[violet glen]

Signalling for a Two-Track-System is also really not all that hard

[quartz salmon]

It’s my first time building them and that’s what my final number came out to be

[rough shore]

depends on how fast u want to beat the game pal

[violet glen]

Block-Signals everywhere, except on crossings, there you put a path signal on every entrance of it.

[earnest condor]

I would argue nothing in this game is hard.
Some things are just more time-consuming than others.

[sterile blade]

That is definetly not on my recommended list xD

[unkempt blade]

and people should definitely learn path signals so they can understand why to only use block signals

[fluid sapphire]

lol i like path signals, they can simplify otherwise complex intersections

[violet glen]

Path signals are really annoying with their slowdown

If your train traffic is low, block signals will have better "flow"

[earnest condor]

Paths are not needed. This is largely just "one guy on YT said it one time and people ran with it without understanding..."

[fluid sapphire]

in practice the flow difference is minimal

[violet glen]

They become needed if the intersection has enough traffic

otherwise trains coming from opposite directions block each other

[earnest condor]

Which 99% of train users never achieve.

[violet glen]

I also heard that they don't do the slowdown if the segment in front of them is long enough. But I have so far not been able to reproduce that

[fluid sapphire]

still, they are not that complicated and are worth learning to use

[earnest condor]

When you truly understand how path signals operate, you can start making systems where blocks are the extreme rarity.

[unkempt blade]

not needed exactly, you just build intersections differently #screenshots message

[normal orbit]

path signals in themselves do not inherently have a slow down. train slow because there is a delay until a path is reserved, if you place the block signal before a path further away the train will not brake and slow down cause it sees red signal, until it can go green

[violet glen]

I don't have that time and space :D

[sterile blade]

Though, if one really wants to push train traffic, they'd better design intersection so that rails don't cross at the same height (ie: they cross via bridges/underpasses)
And building this way then makes path signals overall completely unneeded

[unkempt blade]

sure you do it's a big world!

[earnest condor]

1 rail per train is still a very valid system and you get to make cool stacked rails like the Batman Begins movie.

[fluid sapphire]

i am not saying its not valid or anything, just that its not as complicated as some like to make it sound

[earnest condor]

Not complicated at all, no.

[violet glen]

That's exactly what I can't reproduce. In my setup, the trains begin to break even before the last block signal before the path one.

[fluid sapphire]

if your trains have headroom the slowdown is a non-issue

no more a problem than waiting at an intersection

[unkempt blade]

Batman Begins seems like a good reason to not build trains that way. I can only recommend 20th century batman as inspiration

[normal orbit]

how far away did you place the block signal before path?

[rough shore]

3 foundations apart

[normal orbit]

three?

[violet glen]

Max length of one rail

so... 10 blocks? More?

[normal orbit]

too short, should be 20+ foundations to avoid slowdown

[rough shore]

no im just guessing what he did

[violet glen]

so basically just remove one more block signal

I'll try later

[unkempt blade]

or don't worry about slowdown and add a second train to that route if you really need it 🙂

[violet glen]

It's annoying when going places

[unkempt blade]

oh you're actually riding them?

[violet glen]

yes, if i want to go somewhere, I plop down a train, and tell it to head to the station, and then go grab a snack :D

I have rails to all corners of the map

[earnest condor]

Do you have blocks just sitting every 10 foundations regardless of if they are needed?

[swift quarry]

But it works

[violet glen]

I put a block every end of a rail segment

[rough shore]

ooooo

[violet glen]

unless the rail segment is super short of course

[earnest condor]

😬

I would never, but if it works for you, I support it.

[violet glen]

My rails also don't really have foundations, except at those points

they're on pillars, and just floating in between

[earnest condor]

Elevated rails is de wae, yes.

Trucks on dirt. Trains above. Drones in sky.

[violet glen]

Well, I've seen people build elevated rails with foundations all the way

For realism. But I don't have that kinda time :D

[fluid sapphire]

Pillars are more common I reckon

[earnest condor]

Ain't NOBODY got time for dat.

[normal orbit]

doesnt take that much longer with clever blueprinting :p

[violet glen]

it does if your rails aren't straight but follow the landscape

can't really blueprint that

[unkempt blade]

I have skyroads for the rails like #screenshots message

[earnest condor]

How dare you not use the WG in a game where... no one should use the WG 😏

[fathom pier]

replace ur trains with factory carts

[unkempt blade]

the road part is for the carts, I get to use all sorts of vehicles 😄

[fathom pier]

factory cart station and inventory space when

transport nuclear pasta with factory carts

[green fiber]

the cart already has a slot

you can already transport stuff with it

[fathom pier]

cant automate it though

[green fiber]

you can

just drive it under a truck station

[unkempt blade]

you can and they also use truck stations 🙂

[fathom pier]

transport 12000 copper powder per minute with factory carts i challenge you

[green fiber]

40000 factory carts

[latent prawn]

do keep in mind that powder is a 500-stack item

[unkempt blade]

easy - you just need 5 trucks stations on each end of the route

[unkempt blade]

I just so happen to have an experiment using a 500stack item #screenshots message

[fathom pier]

16000 items per minute from carts??

[latent prawn]

yep, at a glance, from doing my own experiments as well, i'd say it isn't outlandish

[unkempt blade]

Yep, starting from an empty destination truck station. The real bottleneck in this scenario would be 2 output conveyors or 2400/min

[latent prawn]

you'd probably need some tuning to get the carts from bumping into one another and the loop need to be very well behaved, but I've done such things as tests before

[fluid sapphire]

should be a breeze with 1.2

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I would expect this to be easier in 1.2. In pre-1.2 it mostly takes care of itself if you're not hovering on top of it the entire time. Vehicles act more like a math sim and less like tracking all moving things when you're not right next to them so it just kind of fixes itself

[violet glen]

Automated Lizzards when?

[latent prawn]

i spent a day in 1.1 doing some tests with it. more capable than you'd expect. the real issue that i ran into was that the loop got saturated and the carts started queuing too far away from the stations

well, we'd need a pooper scooper equipment first

[fathom pier]

factory cart meta in 1.2

[unkempt blade]

yeah I've definitely seen some serious queues when I add more carts than are needed. It usually helps me if I build a little side area for the station instead of doing it right next to the road like I had been doing

[latent prawn]

i'm still sorta bummed out that 1.0 removed the doggo nuclear waste gift

[violet glen]

I had a playthrough utterly ruined by it, so I'm not too mad

[fathom pier]

how?

[analog citrus]

hello guys, why my generators shutdown ?

[violet glen]

Got Nuclear waste during the tutorial phase, and it was stuck right in my base

[latent prawn]

one of those things that was a problem to solve

[fathom pier]

ahahahhahah

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I never mind the nuclear gifts. I just had a container built into the side of the doggo pen with a conveyor to take the nuclear away from me

[violet glen]

I basically respawned to an already half dead character

[latent prawn]

you failed.

[fathom pier]

sadly flushable toilet wasnt a thing then

[violet glen]

You can flush it??

[fathom pier]

yea it can also delete nuclear waste

1 per flush though hahahah

[latent prawn]

yep, kinda dump that they added the flush and took away the waste

[violet glen]

I mean, that's a good argument to keep the mechanic

specially now that you can build a toilet anywhere

[latent prawn]

i mean, the solution was to have a crate next to your doggo pen that belted the waste to another crate someplace far away

then eventually recycle the stuff when you got to phase 4

[violet glen]

In my case I pretty much just started a new playthrough, tamed a dog near immediately, and it near immediately came running to me while glowing green

[fathom pier]

history right here

[violet glen]

I don't think I even had belts unlocked

[earnest condor]

No, solution is to shoot all lizards on sight.

[rustic crest]

how to fix your connection to host has been lost, i game files are fine network too

[coarse shadow]

What are the best alt recipes before unlocking the refinerys?

[dense violet]

all of them?
they all have their uses

[green fiber]

for?

[earnest condor]

As always, best is subjective.

Other than Biocoal now that we proved how OP that recipe is.

[latent prawn]

i find early on, the most valuable recipes are cast screw (for rotors), stitched plate, iron wire and the iron & copper alloy. once you're making steel, solid steel is very good.

[earnest condor]

Bolted Plate my beloved.

[latent prawn]

i find that recipe slightly worse than fine concrete

there's a case to be made for it in tandem with bolted frame and steeled frame for making mod frames, but that's a big complex build to do after unlocking steel, and at that point steel rod + default mod frame is better

[earnest condor]

Better is subjective.

3x less Assemblers has value to some people.

[fiery pewter]

Fine concrete can be really good tho

[earnest condor]

Rubber Concrete my beloved.

[old parrot]

can you guys just tell when a conveyor or the tracks are going to end b4 seeing the too long thing

[latent prawn]

i can't name a situation when you'd want to use silicon for anything but hsc's or aluminum

[earnest condor]

I believe it is 8 foundations? Used to be 7 but I think they made all pipes and belts the same max length.

So once you know the foundation limit, yeah, you get used to exactly how long you can make them without needing to check.

[latent prawn]

6.5

[old parrot]

i dont even have to look at it

[earnest condor]

Wait tf? They made them shorter?

[fiery pewter]

I can name enough. I just don't follow the meta

[old parrot]

the fondations

[fiery pewter]

Lmao

[earnest condor]

?

[latent prawn]

always been the case 50 meters

[earnest condor]

Can guarantee it was not "always" the case because I remember when they standardized.
Belts, pipes, and hypers had different lengths.

[latent prawn]

maybe it is 52 for some dropped-on-head reason

[earnest condor]

7 Foundations.

[fiery pewter]

Rubber concrete always seems so funny to me

[earnest condor]

Knew it.

[old parrot]

my question is when they are adding 1/4 fondations and triangle halfs

[fiery pewter]

No.

[earnest condor]

1/4 Foundation is just "Large Pillar" tbf.

[latent prawn]

i don't think you can ever get a full 7 foundation

[old parrot]

its not the same

[earnest condor]

I know you can.

Because I just clicked it.

[latent prawn]

ehh, just tried, i'm wrong

[old parrot]

i NEED a 1/4 fondation with out cliping

[green fiber]

catwalk

[latent prawn]

i've always just counted out the spacing for supports to 6 foundations and not worried too much about it

[old parrot]

not the same

[latent prawn]

large concrete pillars

[green fiber]

we already had pillars

[earnest condor]

6 is easier to work with because "rounding errors" and such can make longer, cross-map belts not able to do 7 every single time.
I will give you that.

[old parrot]

also not cuz its got the round corners

[earnest condor]

So if you just make your entire floor out of Pillars.. 😏

[old parrot]

its not for a floor

its for a road

and i had the perfect thing but the conrners mess it up

[green fiber]

getting stuff without clipping isnt very likely

[earnest condor]

Road? You mean... dirt?

[old parrot]

ive done so well so far

[fiery pewter]

Natural roads my beloved

[earnest condor]

Bridges for trucks I get. But roads? Hannah already made those.

[old parrot]

the only cliping i have is the glitch where convaors mess up on the ramps

my max cons is 1.7k but my con is 400

the one thing i have in the game is time so every thing is full

[fluid sapphire]

you mean supports are straight on a ramp, right? you can solve this by putting a splitter on the ramp, connecting the belts to that, then deleting the splitter and connecting the belts - then you have perfectly level conveyors on your ramps

[old parrot]

i aint doing all of that

[fluid sapphire]

ok, up to you, mr ocd

[old parrot]

im fine with that cliping cuz it doesnt actully clip

also i delete the supports

[fluid sapphire]

ok, i dont actually know what you are describing as the problem anyway

was just assuming, that particular situation is what i have seen before

where on long ramps you get weird belts

[old parrot]

idc abt those im just saying that the only cliping i have is from the belts going down ramps

cuz for some reason they always say there cliping

[fluid sapphire]

eh, yeah, there are lots of instances where the clearance says its clipping (yellow) but everything looks fine, to the point where i ignore it completely myself

[old parrot]

ik

[regal tiger]

With trains, can freight cars be 'topped up'?

[ornate saffron]

You can set trains to only leave when full.

[rough shore]

dont they leave when only one cart is full?

[regal tiger]

That will heavily limit throughput so probably wont work for my case. I am hoping a train could go station to station with additional resources being added in at each stop

[latent prawn]

yeah, unless i'm trying to min/max with the intent of using the fewest entities possible, dropping a conveyor pole every 6 actually works a lot better as a rule because it gives a little slack for a turn or elevation change

[ornate saffron]

It can.

I use one train one part when I need more then one freight car

[regal tiger]

i need to bring around 35000 iron ore in per minute, hence why i was thinking of a train looping around a nymber of nodes before unloading

[slim frost]

35k? damn..

[rough shore]

why not 70k

[regal tiger]

yeah. thats the peak, but plenty of other resources are in the 10k+ camp

[latent prawn]

you can set up a train time table to force the trains to depart on full/empty triggers. I'd recommend against doing so unless you've thought it out thoroughly. the train waiting to be emptied will hold up whatever's behind it and that often is very difficult to understand the complete dependency chain, and as such, more often than not hurts train throughput

one other thing to note is that the 'full' level trigger is a bit misleading. the check is whether every slot has stuff instead of when every slot is full

[clear aspen]

Hello chat

[rough shore]

hello plane

[latent prawn]

that last point makes the level triggering icky to use if you're trying to do some tight bounding of delivery throughput & times

[clear aspen]

Hru

[rough shore]

very good what about u

[clear aspen]

Tired

[rough shore]

sleep usually fixes that

[clear aspen]

Well I’m In school

[wise junco]

For my birthday I would like one factory please

[rough shore]

sure 1 iron plate an hour

[cold berry]

Giving up my "megafactory run", turning it into the "use every biome" run. Turning my ore shipping area for the megafactory into an ingot processing factory, then trucking those ingots to sub-factories.

Mega factories are just lots of sub factories it turns out.

[fluid sapphire]

always have been

[rough shore]

obviosuly

otherwise yk

unscalable mess

[fluid sapphire]

i should demolish all the decoration of my grass fields complex and enclose it all in a giant blob of concrete

so its all "one" factory

[civic ore]

Is the scarcity of oil an actual thing or is there just barely any in dune sea and adjacent areas

Cos I’m starting to need crazy amounts of plastic and I genuinely don’t know where I’m going to get them from. Or is this why trains exist?

[rough shore]

running out of oil is like running out of biomass fr

[stone quiver]

Oil goes a very long way with alt recipes

You basically need a mega factory to run out for any given area.

[fluid sapphire]

whats a "crazy amount" of plastic?

[rough shore]

like 200

[cursive topaz]

Individual plastic?

Cus that’s nothing

If your talking like 200 a min yea that’s good

[fluid sapphire]

hold your horse

i dont reckon its in short supply for most people

[cursive topaz]

I mean I had one refinery making plastic at like crazy I have plenty at the moment

[fluid sapphire]

presumably this is more likely about a constant supply rather than a stockpile related question, ofc its easy to stockpile stuff

[glad hawk]

The beach oil is a lot of oil

[placid stirrup]

which beach oil?

Both are a high amount

[placid stirrup]

Alright, he's held but I don't think he likes it

[fluid sapphire]

waiting for what a "crazy" amount is

[analog citrus]

Hello i have a question i am new, ive been unlock the coal, so its better to bring the ore by a conveyors system until my base? or its better to make an energy plant at the nodes and just bring the electricty by cable to the base ?

[fluid sapphire]

belt the coal to water, build the powerplant near water, lay cables back to base, least amount of headache

forget the idea of a "base"

the whole map becomes your base

[analog citrus]

hoo ok ok

i have to create many bases trought the map

i didnt inderstand, what do yu mean by "need water"?

hooo okayy

i didnt read the entire of the coal factory

[civic ore]

Yeah I need like 300 off my initial first glance and I only have 400 at this big ass factory

[fluid sapphire]

coal burn, heat water, turbine go whrrr, generate power

[fluid sapphire]

past the very beginning of your plastic production you should consider making your plastic like this

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Plastic#/media/File:Modular_plastic_setup.png

3x yield per unit of crude oil

[analog citrus]

⚡

[stark ridge]

when I put single foundation I can ctrl to snap to grid. if I have bleurpint of 5x5 foundations I cannot snap it to grid? Or am I missing something?

[analog citrus]

and for one node = one coal bruner ?

or i can gather 2 nodes and join them into just one coal bruner ?

[civic ore]

3x yield for like 20x the space and complexity goddamn

[fluid sapphire]

its worth it

[fluid sapphire]

each generator takes 15 coal and 45 water

120 coal can feed 8 generators

these 8 generators need 360 water. it just so happens a water extractor at 100% provides 120

usual advice is to build them in blocks of 8

[gaunt tulip]

🚩 @void gorge @obsidian zodiac - Could you have someone look at the Satisfactory Q&A Website. It looks like we are again seeing a lot of non-related spam posts.
👉 View: https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/search?sort=1

[civic ore]

I need to unlock the big blueprints machine before I do this approach. Can see it being legendary once it’s just copy+paste

[ornate saffron]

Coffee stain studios dropped a new short

https://youtube.com/shorts/FshdjUn2Jks?si=tqYnXIj604YqqSbx

[analog citrus]

ok so 3 Water extractor for 8 coal generators

and how many node i have to drill

to power all

[ornate saffron]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[fluid sapphire]

whatever gets you the necessary amount of coal

[analog citrus]

ty

sry for my english thanks a lot guys !

[void gorge]

Forwarded cheers

Looking into permanent solutions too

[wise junco]

Have you guys ever used a biomass burner?

[rough shore]

no i just use photosynthesis

[ivory condor]

what again

I really wish this spam would go to the shadow realm never to return

[abstract heron]

When will Mikael do a short for yt

Or will @obsidian zodiac only do a short

@void gorge

[plush trellis]

Has anyone looped tracks yet?

Like a loop d loop

[unkempt blade]

ya my boomboxes loop the DRG tracks

[plush trellis]

Can I see?

[clear aspen]

Wsp mikeal

[vague siren]

How do you send multiple trains to the same train station? Do you have to sort everything after it comes off? Or can you make it so it only picks up and drops off a certain cargo bays?

[oblique aspen]

Not certain bays, but you can set the type of resources it should drop

[vague siren]

How do you do that?

[oblique aspen]

In the train schedule there is big fields for it

[vague siren]

I cant believe I missed that haha, thank you so much

[orchid zinc]

Any rule of thumbs for designing factories that are scalable? Right now im designing various steel flows assuming mk1 miners but then i remembered i had mk2 miners unlocked and that changes the math completely.

[earnest condor]

Only way to design forward is to know the end numbers.

[clear aspen]

I’m pretty sure multiply everything by 2

[earnest condor]

mk3 max overclock on pure/norm/imp is 1200/600/300.

[orchid zinc]

damn

[clear aspen]

Big numbers

[fluid sapphire]

yes. dont

[analog citrus]

there is a way to skip the night ?

[orchid zinc]

Dont what? 😄

[fluid sapphire]

dont try to design scalable factories, just build new ones

[clear aspen]

Why? It looks beautiful at night in this game

[analog citrus]

i am scared

[orchid zinc]

Yeah i read that advice too, just build new shit when you need adjusting?

[clear aspen]

How do?

[analog citrus]

i am joking x)

[clear aspen]

Ah

[analog citrus]

its about de brightness

[clear aspen]

I’m just special

[analog citrus]

its better the day

[fluid sapphire]

if you want to use more ore from the same miner, just split it and build a new factory

[clear aspen]

Why not just build modular factories?

[fluid sapphire]

what do you mean, thats literally what i am advocating for?

[rough shore]

planeguy be tired frfr

[clear aspen]

Ah I’m just bad at media literacy

[vital grove]

no idea where to post this so ima just post it here i made a wallpaper engine wallpaper https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3708556119

[clear aspen]

I’m overthinking to much today

[rough shore]

couldve atleast done it in off topic

[earnest condor]

#fan-art most likely.

[clear aspen]

If I can get 10 ✅ reactions I’ll switch my server tag to the FICS tag

[strange vortex]

I just finished my first train :D

[clear aspen]

Coolio

[abstract heron]

Mods sky ui

[orchid zinc]

So for example i built factory X, unlocked new miners which lead to double the amount, build the same factory if you need it sort of approach?

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, i guess, generally i wouldnt worry about having to use the same nodes though, resources are aplenty

[unkempt blade]

his hair is way more amazing now than in the 90s

[rapid sleet]

How do i get mods for satisfactory?

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @ornate saffron

[clear aspen]

Wha

[unkempt blade]

Yeah the dreads + male pattern baldness is iconic. Truly a great look

[clear aspen]

I have no clue what your talking about

[unkempt blade]

Coolio 🙂

[clear aspen]

No clue who that is

[unkempt blade]

a musician with great hair

[clear aspen]

I see

[rough shore]

I dont

[clear aspen]

Womp womp

[unkempt blade]

no worries, I understand how hard it is to type a single word into a search engine

it's tough out there

[clear aspen]

What isn’t tough is that COTN s3 still doesn’t have a release date

But a guy can only dream

[unkempt blade]

I heard they were having trouble sourcing story-accurate dragonballs

[clear aspen]

I think we’re talking about different animes

[unkempt blade]

there's more than one?

[neat anvil]

Any of yall try to use belts that are closest to what machines need pm instead of doing max belt speed?

[earnest condor]

Yes. Many do that!

[placid stirrup]

Helps a ton with machine stuttering

[earnest condor]

Can also look better if that's on your care list.

[neat anvil]

It makes it easier to fill machines

[placid stirrup]

It's the only thing on my care list

[earnest condor]

😄 Valid.

[worn oar]

At peak it consumes 150 wood/minute and 300 leaves/minute. I have 212,000 wood in reserve and 435,000 leaves in reserve. In other words, the backup biofuel plant can run for approximately 24 hours straight before stopping. Which is MORE than enough time to diagnose and fix any power problem. It will do exactly what it is designed to do.

[ivory condor]

I just use mk6 belts because the belts look cool

[analog citrus]

There is a control pannel to follow the entire power used by the all machines?

[placid stirrup]

Correct, 15 minutes of collecting bio matter and you're set for a looong time, even if you're using biofuel for power production.

[neat anvil]

?

[worn oar]

It's only a backup power system which means it's unlikely to run at full speed at any point

[analog citrus]

The electricty produced and used

[neat anvil]

If you want to see it touch a power pole

Interact with one it will tell you all the information

[analog citrus]

ho ok

[placid stirrup]

You can check total power numbers on any power generating machine or power pole/tower, and the priority power switch allows you to group clusters of machines with the ability to automatically turn them off if you have a dip in power. But there's no display to show power consumption from EACH machine, that would be overwhelming.

[neat anvil]

Max consumption, is how much power you would be consuming if every single one of your machines were to be turned on at the same time

[analog citrus]

why my electricty production isnt linear ?

[neat anvil]

problem

Or bio generators

They only produce the amount you need

[placid stirrup]

Virtually every player will have a non-linear production, it's usually just micro inefficiencies that compound.

[analog citrus]

iv juste started my coal factory myb the 8 factory are not producing in the same time

[placid stirrup]

Possibly - easy enough to check and troubleshoot.

[worn oar]

It takes a while for the coal to fill up on the last machines. Look again in an hour, or manually fill the last machine

[analog citrus]

i think they are not full (100 coal per factory)

[analog citrus]

ok yes

[analog citrus]

its far x)

im gonna check it in 1 hour

[neat anvil]

Also never let max consumption reach max power production

[placid stirrup]

Far is subjective. You can get across the map in about 20 seconds.

[worn oar]

While generally true, I don't think it's really a problem until you're smart splitting into sinks to always have machines running

[fiery root]

What is stopping me from bildung a mega iron factory before finishing Phase 2?

[analog citrus]

and if my production overtake my consumming the electricity link crash, its right ?

[neat anvil]

NOTHING

[earnest condor]

Yes.

[analog citrus]

ok ty

[worn oar]

Belt speed, miner output, shards, the ability to fly or jetpack, and the output of your existing factories

[ornate saffron]

Your own morality. Let it go.

[fiery root]

HELL YEAH

[neat anvil]

Nothing is stopping you, but it doesn’t mean you should do it

[fiery root]

Sounds like a Problem of the future me

[earnest condor]

Porkalo believes in morality 😭

[ornate saffron]

It's the only thing stopping from clipping belts through machines

[clear aspen]

Hello beefalo

[worn oar]

#screenshots message

[earnest condor]

Clipping and Yellow Lights are the cardinal sins.

[ornate saffron]

That guy's a jerk anyways

[unkempt blade]

You should do it. Just remember that the inverted pyramid is the shape of success for a megafactory

[clear aspen]

I wish I could send the eagle picture

[neat anvil]

I’ve built an abusive relationship with this game

[fiery root]

U fellas are good pioneers.

[neat anvil]

I think so, ADA tells me that

[ornate saffron]

Good is relative.

I have yet to yeet a lizard doggo or give them nuclear waste

[earnest condor]

Good is a point of view, Anakin.

[unkempt blade]

you should bail and go play minesweeper instead

[fiery root]

ADA is such a nice Lady. Gave me a micro break the other day. Then told me about how trucks are better pioneers than i am.

[neat anvil]

But we don’t get brakes