satisfactory

[rough shore]

well jsut tweak it real good so u dont have to tweak it again

[tall lantern]

leaving working factories alone is the best recommendation there, just leave 'em be and take any learned lessons to later ones

[fluid sapphire]

tweaking how

[abstract heron]

@gusty ermine my hrs TOTAL heres a update for 20khrs TOTAL 19,227 hrs on record <@&370483737957236737>

[versed bison]

and i have no idea how to implement trains or trucks into my factory

[abstract heron]

don't wanna ghost ping

[tall lantern]

make room for stations in the new ones you're gonna build

[boreal umbra]

@sturdy mural ah thx not percies what i want but i used a big pilar now

[versed bison]

and about balancing like the items going into trains and going into dimentional storage?

[quartz salmon]

I just do half to storage half to trucks

[versed bison]

lets say for example i make a 10x constructor double manifold setup

i see that vertical manifold is better

[tall lantern]

why not just build two groups of machines, one for storage and one for whatever other thing you're doing

[versed bison]

i delete the one i have then rebuild

[tall lantern]

(or two distinct factories, yay Independency)

[versed bison]

and see another one looks cleaner

and oh logictics floor or visible spaghetti

[reef basin]

dont delete

[versed bison]

then i spent like 50 hrs doing this death cycle

prob more than that honestly

im almost 200 hrs in and im still havent automated computers nor scratched phase 3

[fluid sapphire]

build stuff, make it look OK, leave it alone, if logistics floors bother you, dont use logistics floors

[sturdy mural]

this is what i meant #screenshots message (2 colors to show the clipping n such)
and good to hear

[fluid sapphire]

hide spaghetti in foundations

[tall lantern]

well at least you've identified that it is a bad cycle to stuck in
and it's easy to break - again, just leave a working factory alone. there'll always be improvements that could be made, but if you keep tearing down what you've got you'll never get beyond that

[sturdy mural]

epic embed fail

[tall lantern]

"epic" is a strong word

[reef basin]

not fail, just disabled

[versed bison]

no image perms huh

[sturdy mural]

that was a fail at posting a gif tho

[whole robin]

No images allowed in this channel

[reef basin]

yeah, to prevent spam like your gif 😛

[versed bison]

how is it spam lmao

[sturdy mural]

imagine 20 people posting a gif every 5 messages

[versed bison]

okay that makes sense

[fluid sapphire]

i think thats what it was like before

[reef basin]

when we had perms here, every 3rd message was reaction gif or screenshot

[sturdy mural]

was a new channel made?

oor perms removed a LONG time ago

[reef basin]

no

just long time back

[sturdy mural]

cuz like

even in '18 i don't see that

💔

[versed bison]

okay ill just settle with whatever blueprints i have now and ill just focus on progressing the game

[fluid sapphire]

you kinda just have to accept that nothing will ever be truly perfect

[reef basin]

no reason to dismantle existing factory really

[fluid sapphire]

the imperfections make things look less robotic anyway

[reef basin]

even a bad factory makes items

[sturdy mural]

i think lifts have messed up hole dimensions 💔
T6 is like 1m/2m above the "correct" end destination when going through holes

[quartz salmon]

My most efficient factory which I only have 1 this way has all my conveyors hidden in logistics floors and they all just get raised through the floor straight into the input of the machine

[versed bison]

logistics floor huh

never actually tried it ngl

[reef basin]

imo it's extra effort for no real gain but some people like it

[fluid sapphire]

you can actually also just hide a lot spaghetti in 4m foundations by using 1m floor holes

my recent discovery for hiding ugly stuff thats near impossible to make look good

[quartz salmon]

It’s my SAM factory so I really probably don’t need as much of the stuff I’m making in it

[fluid sapphire]

looks good from the top, and good from the bottom, who cares whats in the middle

#design-and-architecture message

[versed bison]

also what tier do i unlock the hoverpack?

[fluid sapphire]

7 i think?

[versed bison]

lowkey seing all these youtubers with hoverpacks makes me want it so badly

looks convenient

[quartz salmon]

It definitely was a little extra effort but it definitely was my favorite design aesthetically

[fluid sapphire]

its incredible, once you get used to it you cant imagine life without it

[quartz salmon]

I’ve gotten really good at hovering the jet pack 😂

[versed bison]

same here

but like my thumbs get tired spamming space bar chief

[quartz salmon]

Idk if you’ve unlocked it though but turbo fuel was a game changer for it

[quartz salmon]

I’ve got so much time in so many FPS games where I live on my space bar it hasn’t been that difficult for me

[versed bison]

grrr im so tempted to just start a new save file

[quartz salmon]

Satisfactorys movement lowkey is one of the best in any game I’ve played, I’d play an FPS game on this movement anyday

I been trickshotting the hogs 😂

[fluid sapphire]

once you get hoverpack you will realize that hovering on a jetpack is like hoverpack from temu

[sturdy mural]

pullin the Apex with nobelisks and a basher on the hogs

[quartz salmon]

I’ve never used the hoverpack but I am aware that it’s nothing comparable

[fluid sapphire]

the range is annoyingly short, but the functionality makes up for it - i spam power towers everywhere while building to provide range, easy to delete later since they stick out

[sturdy mural]

i personally prefer the jetpack
hoverpack for me is fine for specific occasions

[fluid sapphire]

hoverpack is straight upgrade for building

[sturdy mural]

like having to place smth precisely 20m from the ground

nah

[fluid sapphire]

it is though, you can stand still at any vantage point, literally 10x easier to line up everything

maybe not if you only build in 2D

[wraith depot]

Hoverpack is the best for building one you learning how to use it

[sturdy mural]

well then

tell me how to disable it without touching the floor

[fluid sapphire]

wdym? double tap crouch

[sturdy mural]

wait fr?

[fluid sapphire]

yes?

hold space to drop more slowly

[wraith depot]

Double tap C

Or your crouch button

[sturdy mural]

DAM

[sturdy mural]

no that just makes you re-enable flight

[fluid sapphire]

no, holding it makes you drop slowly, double tapping makes you hover again

ahhh, maybe when you dont have power nearby

[sturdy mural]

no

[fluid sapphire]

either way

[sturdy mural]

yeah for me it only entered slow fall when out of power

[wraith depot]

Just do whatever works for you

[quartz salmon]

Hoverpack runs on electricity?

[fluid sapphire]

yes

[sturdy mural]

yup

[wraith depot]

Yes

[quartz salmon]

Oh I thought it just used fuel

[sturdy mural]

100MW when in use

[quartz salmon]

That’s not bad

[fluid sapphire]

no, it connects to power outlets and connection points in rail

[sturdy mural]

rails too?

[fluid sapphire]

yes

[wraith depot]

That's like nothing at the phase you unlock the pack

[quartz salmon]

I have 28k power coming from my fuel power

And I think like 5k from coal

When I’m making plastic and I want the excess fuel to just keep being used I should just throw a couple fuel gens on the line right?

[wraith depot]

Just so you know a single particle accelerator can take around 20k power at max

[timid rune]

20k MW?

[visual temple]

I usually do two less than what my fuel can support yea

[reef basin]

*20GW

[timid rune]

yup sounds about right haha

[sturdy mural]

250% Slooped:

[visual temple]

yea I have like 25k in my experimental from fuel and like 10k from coal atm

[timid rune]

oh yep

I haven't slooped a PA luckily

[sturdy mural]

i think i tried once

[quartz salmon]

Is slooping like essential? I’ve never done it

[sturdy mural]

it like doubled my max power usage

[wraith depot]

Then you have to make like 1500 nuclear pasta in those particle accelerator, with an output of like 0.5 per min

[reef basin]

it's... a boost to production, but you don't need it to play the game (like almost anything else)

[sturdy mural]

no it just doubles the resource you make
so instead of 1 reinforced plate popping out, you get 2 for the same mats

[visual temple]

Slooping just doubles the output of a build so its worth for slow stuff

[quartz salmon]

My power bill irl finna skyrocket when I leave my pc running

[sturdy mural]

or expensive stuff

[fluid sapphire]

late game parts or elevator parts are prime candidates for slooping

[visual temple]

True, ive been slooping annoying stuff that takes forever or is indeed expensive

[sturdy mural]

also remains/DNA

[visual temple]

true I didnt think bout dna

[timid rune]

power slugs as well

[sturdy mural]

i have 4 sloops sitting in animal processor
they are NOT leaving

[sturdy mural]

hell no don't process slugs

synthetic shards 🔥

[earnest condor]

Yes, process all slugs.

[timid rune]

well.. not until you get synthetic shards

[wraith depot]

Do you guys go back and upgrade your old factories once you unlock better belts and miners?

[earnest condor]

And have synthetic shards.

[timid rune]

depends

[quartz salmon]

I love that this game has like no penalty for using a resource in one place and then moving it somewhere else

[visual temple]

sometimes, depends on item

[earnest condor]

Nope. I delete them entirely.

[sturdy mural]

mainly when i know i CAN'T upgrade it afterwards

like, whne i get T3 miners

[timid rune]

sometimes if I want something big I delete it all and start again

next playthrough I am doing 500 motors/min lol

[earnest condor]

Everything prior to the mk6 is "for progression only, scheduled for deletion."

[reef basin]

factories? no

miners? if I need the resource for other factory, yes

[quartz salmon]

I’m wasting space by storing containers of screws right?

[fluid sapphire]

no, just build new ones elsewhere, never get anything done otherwise

[rough shore]

🤣 😂

[earnest condor]

Containers plural? Yes.

[fluid sapphire]

dont fix what aint broke

[wraith depot]

Lol

[quartz salmon]

I built it when I had like 2 hours in the game okay 😂

And it’s just sat there for the last 200 hours

I don’t think I’ve ever touched it

[wraith depot]

I have a screw inds. container right next to my hub

[quartz salmon]

That’s all I have

[wraith depot]

Ik ik

[quartz salmon]

Is one of those containers by my hub but I have a factory producing them is the issue

[rough shore]

keep it a tribute

[earnest condor]

Yeah, you can delete that factory.

[wraith depot]

I just eliminated every recipe that includes screws

[reef basin]

no reason to do so

[earnest condor]

That is an option. But some screw-based recipes are great.
Ala Copper Rotor.

[quartz salmon]

I feel like screws are over hated imo maybe it gets worse later in the game and I’ll change my mind but they’re not that hard to make a shit ton of

[fluid sapphire]

i should make a screw factory for when i need to build the awesome shop, but when i do, it will be the slowest screw factory to ever exist, maybe 1 per minute would be a good target

[timid rune]

I tore down my startiing base for 75 modular engines / min

[reef basin]

what is overrated is screw hate

[wraith depot]

Items like heavy mod frames where taking like 250 screws

[thorny plaza]

Hi chat, how are yall

[earnest condor]

Everyone hates Screw but is fine with Screw 2.0 (Quickwire)...

[reef basin]

we're not chat, this is not twitch

[timid rune]

tbf heavy encased frame and encased ind pipe are meta basically

[reef basin]

no, not really

[wraith depot]

True

[thorny plaza]

My bad, streamer instincts- Let me rephrase

Hello there, Fellow Pioneers! How are you

[earnest condor]

Define "meta" in a game where every choice is a subjective tradeoff based on what an individual person values?

[wraith depot]

Just remove screws or use steel screws recipe, it's a blessing

[elfin smelt]

I mean I'm not familiar with the speedrunning scene but I guess theres a meta there

[wraith depot]

Just fine ada

[earnest condor]

Heavy Flexible pairs really nicely with Steel Screw.

[reef basin]

speedrunning meta indeed exists, but is in absolutely no way related to normal gameplay

[earnest condor]

Speedrunning is most likely also a somersloop-based meta.

[wraith depot]

That's what I use

[ocean leaf]

I find with experimental random nodes game mode, you start to appreciate the alternative recipies more. There is no right or wrong (maybe except biocoal 😄 ), but they just offer a bunch of possibilities to adjust your factory to the resources around you with certain tradeoffs. Sometimes this tradeoff can be more screws, sometimes it's no screws at all 🙂

[earnest condor]

#satisfactory-experimental 💛

But also there never was a right or wrong.

[reef basin]

even biocoal is situational like every other recipe

[earnest condor]

People just try to force their subjective opinions on others by making completely biased "tier lists" but presenting them as factual. 🤷‍♂️

[ocean leaf]

Yeah, I know, I just meant with the upcoming changes, others might shift their mindset a bit a way from "what recipe is meta"

[earnest condor]

Biocoal with somers is absolutely nuts.

1 Alien Remains = 960 Coal

[wraith depot]

I respect every playstyle unless you are storage feeding manufacturers for the space elevator

[ocean leaf]

I feel attacked 😄

[earnest condor]

Hopefully.
Will be very "took you 9 years to realize."
But hopefully 🤞

[wraith depot]

Holy fr?

[earnest condor]

You will hate me.
Because I have never once automated Project Parts and I most likely never will.

[earnest condor]

Yes. Which means 1 Alien Remain can run a coal gen for over an hour.

And Biocoal -> Compacted Coal is even more potent because any lone sulfur node works as you don't have to bring coal to the location.

[stone python]

yooo, is sevrahn back???? Been a hot min since ive seen that name around these here parts

[earnest condor]

Been here for 3 days 😉

But thank you 🙏

[quartz salmon]

I need to get off work fr fr im like foaming at the mouth to get back to the factories

[green fiber]

Biomass only Diamonds

[quartz salmon]

I need to clock into my 20 hour shift at the ball crushing factory

[wraith depot]

The weekend is almost upon us

[stone python]

different kind of ball crushing then, so no rest for fusion

[earnest condor]

I really wish we had gotten BioNuclear Fuel Rod instead of Ficsonium 😭

[quartz salmon]

I’m in the army they crush mine all day everyday anyways

[unkempt blade]

I never understood why people didn't just play while "working". It works great for me

[earnest condor]

Reason Monday is the best day of the week.

Friday is too hopeful.
You've worked 5 days and they can still take your weekend if they want to.
On a true Monday, you've had 2 days off and they can never change that.

[south sinew]

They can't take my weekends

[earnest condor]

I wasn't replying to you?

[wraith depot]

This weekend I'm gonna try my luck with the nuclear stuff, hope it goes well

[quartz salmon]

Army can take anyday they want 😂

[earnest condor]

☝️

[stone python]

ill take your weekends, hand em over!

[quartz salmon]

I’ve worked plenty of 14 day work weeks

[unkempt blade]

oh you're in the army? you should definitely be playing while working then

it's your patriotic duty

[quartz salmon]

My mortar system doesn’t run satisfactory unfortunately

[rough shore]

gotta automate homing rifles fr

[stone python]

technically im a tax paying american so i pay like.....some super small fraction of your paycheck so by proxy im kinda your boss?

Play games, that is an order!

[earnest condor]

Turbo*

[rough shore]

idk nuclear nobelisks

[leaden turret]

you only need mortar with arachnophobia mode on.

-# because of shitting bricks due to unexpected cat

[rough shore]

a square cat png jumpscaring u in a cave would be scarier than a spider tho

[thorny plaza]

Speaking of Arachnophobia mode, I turned it on without thinking because I do have Arachnophobia.. But man those cat PNGs creep me out more than a regular stinger-

[wraith depot]

It's even worse when they jump you from the rock rubble

[rough shore]

alr its settled cats are scarier than spiders even to ppl with arachnophobia

[thorny plaza]

"What the.. What is that..? Am I in gmod?"

[stone python]

there is a mod that turns them into jace and snut heads

[reef basin]

well, it's "less spidery mode", not "less scary mode"

[leaden turret]

replace arachnophobia with ailurophobia

[rough shore]

if u see spongebob fighting godzilla while ur spectating as peter griffin then its probably gmod

[thorny plaza]

Seeing those huge stingers tho

Those are terrifying

[rough shore]

all games should have mod customizability as valve games fr

[thorny plaza]

I was walking around going home after finding quartz and placing down a small mini-factory for automation.. I then ran into the large green stinger that spews out gas and I WAS OUT OF HOMING AMMO (I died)

[lean fossil]

#screenshots message

is this uh goood or sum

[leaden turret]

-# stinger ordered takeout

[rough shore]

very

[lean fossil]

yaeyeayeayeahhooo

[thorny plaza]

I have a clip of this actually, lemme send it in memes

[leaden turret]

memes are for memes, don't be posting non-memes in memes

[thorny plaza]

It's an edited video, I believe that would count as a meme since I made a meme out of the clip

[unkempt blade]

Run away! Bounce while running away with your metal legs and rocketbutt!

[leaden turret]

#streams-and-videos or #off-topic-media for non-memes

[thorny plaza]

Alright then, thanks!

#streams-and-videos message

I genuinely panicked so hard and fumbled xd

[leaden turret]

enjoy my reaction to meeting johnny #streams-and-videos message

[thorny plaza]

Okay that's actually the first clip I saw of the Jetpack Hog and he's so goofy omg-

I knew it existed but I have yet to encounter it

[leaden turret]

is rare spawn

[thorny plaza]

Okay somehow, SOMEHOW, figuring out how train signals works is giving me a bigger headache than making a megafactory and a powerplant

[sturdy mural]

real ngl

[reef basin]

megafactory is not recommended 😛

[sturdy mural]

why is that

[reef basin]

logistical and perfomance pain

build separate factories instead

[sturdy mural]

performance pain
I paid for the whole pc i will use the whole pc

[earnest condor]

Block signals.
And only Block Signals.

Will cover everything you want to do in a very simple way.

[reef basin]

you'll still have performance issues when reaching big separate factories
but centralising eats it faster

[sturdy mural]

won't those deadlock crap

[earnest condor]

How?

[tall lantern]

not normally

if you've done something silly like use bidirectional rails, then yes

[thorny plaza]

The Block Signals are sending errors and my brain is overloading trying to understand which kind of "Signal Loops into Itself" it is because that has numerous different errors within itself

[tall lantern]

if you've got your rails as one-way lanes (like roads) you'll be fine

[sturdy mural]

wait wdym by block signals

[earnest condor]

Bidi rails are not silly...

[sturdy mural]

as in where

[rough shore]

they very much are

[earnest condor]

Did you signal the ENTIRE system before looking at errors?

[leaden turret]

-# bi bidi bo bidi boo

[reef basin]

not if you signal properly

[thorny plaza]

Yep, the errors are somehow only at my Water Plant

[earnest condor]

They are not.
They are advanced.
Which leads to people who don't understand how to build them finding them "silly."

[earnest condor]

Screenshot would help? Been solving signals since they were added 💛

[rough shore]

just make 2 rails next to each other and save urself the hassle

[reef basin]

same as screws - "I have issues because I refuse to learn new stuff and apply new approaches so I'm gonna hate them"

[earnest condor]

Very much.

[thorny plaza]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1494326408477016167

Here, any help is appreciated!

[earnest condor]

Just hand craft everything and save yourself the hassle.

[rough shore]

true

[tall lantern]

more akin to "manifold or ratio splitter". 90% of the time, take the simple option, and if you want to do the other, the option's there but often unnecessary. and there's still upsides to both options

not a hill I'm gonna die on though 😛

[reef basin]

there's more than those two options 😛

[bronze kindle]

where is a good spot to automate heavy modular frames (standart rec) i was thinking abt 6/min

[stone python]

everywhere is good when you have trucks and trains

[reef basin]

near resources you need for them

[bronze kindle]

i'm currently working on building a train network trough the map, but it takes long asf

[nocturne cairn]

Also same as screws you can entirely avoid them, and in case of bidirectional rails, there's almost no reason to ever use them and learn to signal them instead of saving the hassle and using 2 tracks

[reef basin]

why not use bidi rail if it can do the job just fine?

[earnest condor]

There is no reason to ever build a miner when you can do everything via portables.
So 🤷‍♂️

[leaden turret]

there is no reason to do anything yourself when you can do everything via #1201555265942724758

[earnest condor]

Facts.

[elfin smelt]

i'd argue bidi rails are good because each will make the rail network have 1 less train and that can possibly increase througtput

[ivory condor]

There is no reason to even play the save yourself, just setup dedic server, let others build your empire for you

[earnest condor]

Why play when you can just use GameGPT to play it for you

[leaden turret]

eww no, I'd rather work retail

[quartz salmon]

Why would I want AI to work the ball crushing factory for me

[ivory condor]

I would use gamegpt, just because i would want to see what nightmare it came up with

[rough shore]

chat whats gamegpt am i living under a rock or are we trolling

[earnest condor]

Doesn't fully exist yet, but people are working on a LLM similar to ChatGPT that would literally play video games for you so that you don't have.

Do not ask me why.

[rough shore]

uh why

[earnest condor]

I have no clue.

[leaden turret]

yo dawg, we heard you like using GPUs so we put AI in your game so you can tank your frame rate while you tank your frame rate

[rough shore]

is this actually confirmed

cuz u would need the brain of a dead lizard doggo to think of that

[earnest condor]

Do you have the impression I enjoy blatantly lying to people?

[rough shore]

woah

[leaden turret]

• pfp is cat
• cat enjoys clawing/biting after getting belly rubs

yes.

[rough shore]

i feel backstabbed 🔪 🩸

[earnest condor]

Everything I have said has been to your face, so don't know why you feel that way.

I gave you the information I have. You asked for clarification, I gave it.
You then continued to doubt, at which point I asked what gives you the impression of me that leads to doubt.

[thorny plaza]

I am genuinely so happy that the truck paths in 1.2 have automatic stopping and behavior like a properly-working train signal

Because I do NOT wanna go through all of that again

[ocean leaf]

why does the doggo now get the heat? 😢

[thorny plaza]

Just to set up some truck highways

[earnest condor]

#satisfactory-experimental 💛

[thorny plaza]

My bad!

[rough shore]

cuz they are just extra uobjects 🤷‍♂️

[earnest condor]

Lizard Remains drop item when?

[cold berry]

Efficiency

[earnest condor]

CONSTANT VIGILANCE

[leaden turret]

lizard doggo milk is highly combustible

[earnest condor]

They should explode when you kill them then.

[leaden turret]

[redacted so you can only blame yourself for reading] ||that would assume that the lizard doggos were lactating||

[rough shore]

and then drop a random item when u kill them which would encourage killing them 🔥

[thorny plaza]

I would love to fight a hostile Lizard Doggo

[earnest condor]

So it should be a random chance for large explosion?

[earnest condor]

They are all hostile.

[leaden turret]

depends on the ignition temperature.

[thorny plaza]

Lizard Doggo milk being used as an alternatile to Sulfur lmao

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> what's the ignition temperature of lizard doggo milk? is it like diesel where it won't ignite if you drop a match in it?

[thorny plaza]

alternative*

[rough shore]

they are a waste of space uobjects oxygen audio everything

[obsidian zodiac]

no

[leaden turret]

I asked the modders and CSS to add cheese nobelisks

[leaden turret]

so it's lower than diesel, got it

[obsidian zodiac]

no

[earnest condor]

We have a toggle to remove Stingers... I just want a toggle to remove Steves, as they serve no purpose but annoyance 🙁

[jade sparrow]

hay un canal de satisafctorio de españa

[earnest condor]

Huh?

[rough shore]

hola

[exotic frigate]

Do not the lizard doggo

[jade sparrow]

is there a satisfactory channel of spain

[earnest condor]

Most likely.

[obsidian zodiac]

not on this server

[jade sparrow]

i just have installed

[earnest condor]

🥳

[jade sparrow]

okey thnk : 3

[thorny plaza]

I haven't seen anything about this yet but can stingers actually climb ceilings/walls of caves?

[rough shore]

doesnt matter just nuke the entire cave

[leaden turret]

you know by answering you're gonna have the idea stuck in your head now. 😛

[earnest condor]

Walls - somewhat.
Ceiling - no.

[thorny plaza]

Thank god

[rough shore]

but great idea tho

[earnest condor]

In some caves they spawn up there though.

[thorny plaza]

That's one reason why I carry nobelisks with me wherever I go

[abstract heron]

oh hello jason

[rough shore]

guys its 🦁 guy

[earnest condor]

Turbo Ammo go brrrrrr.

[chrome bear]

how do I make a overflow thingaling

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> going through the supermarket aisles, getting to milk, gets dirty looks from staff because of randomly saying "goddammit marv"

[earnest condor]

MAM -> Caterium -> Smart Splitter

[rough shore]

u need a smart splitter thingaling

[thorny plaza]

Seeing the old trailers where stingers swarm at you looks terrifying as hell

I imagined how a mechanic where the stingers climbed walls and ceilings would affect gameplay, thank god I don't have to imagine it anymore

[chrome bear]

ah good thing I have that thingaling

[rough shore]

then just use it to make ur overflow thingaling and problem solvaling 🤷‍♂️

[chrome bear]

cats climbing walls would be pretty spooky

[thorny plaza]

Terrifying

[stray field]

How do I get satisfactory 1.2 experimental? I'm on console ps5

[abstract heron]

yes how did u know 😛

[rough shore]

just a guess

[thorny plaza]

Experimental isn't available on console

[stray field]

Only pc?

[thorny plaza]

Yeah

[abstract heron]

working on 100 nuclear pasta 🙂

[stray field]

Dammit

[thorny plaza]

Let's Game It Out introduced me to satisfactory.. But somehow seeing someone use "Default" on conveyors instead of "Straight" hurts me internally-

[abstract heron]

all by hand no blueprints

minus for balancers and belt wide and other confusing things

[abstract heron]

19,229 hrs on record are my hrs good TOTAL and 5,400hr save

[stray field]

Whattttt

Can I get a vid tour?

[thorny plaza]

Someone said I spent too much time on Satisfactory.. Man i only have around 200 hours

[abstract heron]

i am currently working on my factory

[earnest condor]

Hides entire world from you.

[abstract heron]

i got the game on steam realease

[slim frost]

im playing the ultimate challange; 100x space elevator multiplier, 5x power multiplier, 2x recipe multiplier, all nodes impure.. i do not have to do anything on the game in a couple of days, just let it run until it is done 😛

[earnest condor]

#satisfactory-experimental 💛

[true mulch]

Straight mode didn't exist when he was playing

[oblique aspen]

He would never use straight mode 😛

[exotic frigate]

I might do 10x space elevator cost, 5x power, but all pure nodes... hm

[slim frost]

ill open the game and login to server, see how it is doing.. 😄

426hours.. and counting..

[timid rune]

still a lot of work for me to get that 60 Biochemical Sculptor/min

only like 18mil awesome points/min when done tho

[slim frost]

54 372/100 000 smartplates, 42 523/100 000 framethingies and finished with automated wiring.. looking good.. a couple days more

and ill get into phase3

[timid rune]

oh jesus lol

[slim frost]

its rough

[timid rune]

think I am starting a new save after I am done with the sculptor build

[clear aspen]

Hello

[slim frost]

one save at a time 🙂

[timid rune]

think I over did my sloops on Reawakened SAM

but alas

gonna think about a slooped nuclear run next save

[abstract heron]

can u even sloop them?

[timid rune]

IIRC it is best to sloop plutonium rods

[slim frost]

sloop everything: #screenshots message

look at power consumption.. lol

[timid rune]

sloppy alumina + electrode + normal (+ cheap silica) aluminum receipes sounds fun to implement

[sturdy mural]

damn my factory crashed

not very satisfactory if you ask me

[slim frost]

game or factory?

[sturdy mural]

game

[slim frost]

factory would be funnier, but yeah, hate when that happens.. not that it happens so often tho.. atleast i dont experience it crashing alot

[quartz salmon]

I’ve never crash my game

But I also maybe haven’t built anything that big yet

[slim frost]

bigger server

if it crashes

[quartz salmon]

I only play solo too

[slim frost]

maybe it would help to put it on a server, if your pc start struggling

ah, nvm, you didnt have issues

[violet glen]

The PC still has to deal with it, even when playing on a server

[slim frost]

true, but litle less i suppose.

[sturdy mural]

mm im cooking rn

im cooking with my build
idk what am i doing
or why
but im cooking

[slim frost]

what are you cooking?

sorry, im not trolling, i was trying to lighten the mood

[sturdy mural]

aluminum factory

[slim frost]

is it 1.1 or 1.2 save? you can send me the save and i can throw it up on a server and see if that works better?

[sturdy mural]

1.1
and wdym?

[slim frost]

i tought your game crashed, but apparantly it is just your aluminum factory

[sturdy mural]

my game DID crash
just in the middle of decorating the alu factory

[west jackal]

how big is it?

[west jackal]

average sized? small?

my laptop cant handle the area i do aluminum because of the sattelite factories i think

[sturdy mural]

uhh like
10x20 foundations big roughly

1200 bauxite into 1080 aluminum

and 45 foundations tall

(Because i gave it a giant tower for whatever reason)

[west jackal]

aww bummer, not using sloppy electrode 😛

(joking)

[west jackal]

overrall pretty small but still respectable! im surprised that would crash your game?

[sturdy mural]

it was the Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION writing address 0x...

soo idk if its because too big

[west jackal]

shouldnt be unless its a ram issue

how much ram do you have? (also i dont really know but this is my best guess)

[sturdy mural]

8GB

[west jackal]

its possible that the clocking on your ram was unstable and the ram controller got confused when you had high usage

[slim frost]

i agree with Dylan

[sturdy mural]

tho my graphics card might be dying slowly

[west jackal]

well... thats a different problem, this shouldnt be affected by gpu

[sturdy mural]

who knows

[unkempt blade]

your computer is just experiencing a skill issue 🙁

[west jackal]

well, 8gb is kinda low these days

is it a custom pc or did you buy it prebuilt?

(or have you changed ram clocking?) that can lead to instability

also make sure gpu drivers are up to date (as much as possible) and try verifying game files? thats everything i can think of

all my basic troubleshooting

[sturdy mural]

a laptop.

[plush trellis]

I need everything

[unkempt blade]

also check the system requirements for the game and see if this is really a troubleshooting rabbit hole you want to go down

[west jackal]

okay, is the ram what came from the factory? did you change the clocking at all? gpu overclocked? anything like that?

[low ingot]

12gb is probbaly bare minimum you want anynmore, 8 is just for those daily collection games at this point

[unkempt blade]

it sounds like you might be in minimum requirements territory so you might just be signing up for a bad time if that's the case

[west jackal]

i agree, but the minimum specs that CSS says for sat is 8gb

[sturdy mural]

i downclocked the gpu iirc, to lower temps and such because my cooling is not the best
ram? no tho

[sturdy mural]

listen
i was CHILLINg in a game that had 16 gigs minimum (Star Rupture)

[slim frost]

bare minimum for the game is 8gb ram.. recomended is 16gb for stability and lagg-free experience.. ofc windows runs off with alot of ram also, so litle left for the game.

[west jackal]

yeah if i have a laptop with 8gb that im going to game on, i either upgrade the ram, lol, or run tiny windows instead of windows. much better for performance

[slim frost]

playing on a server online could perhaps help alitle also for the pc. then a server online would handle some stuff that the laptop dont have too anymore

[west jackal]

right because servers definitely dont have any weird stability/glitches 😛

[slim frost]

im not sure how much it would help tho, but i have a server i can host the game for you to test if there is any improvements or deprovements.

[fluid sapphire]

8gb ram these days is barely usable unless you are running linux

[sturdy mural]

deprovements 100%

my internet would not work 🙏
(i jump out of my chair when i see over 20Mbps download on steam)

[west jackal]

i would not recommend underclocking gpu on a low end? laptop for gaming. you can buy cooling pads for like 20 bucks that you put the laptop on for cooling

[plush trellis]

I could EASILY finish the game in the next day or 2 BUT NOOO here I am doing nuclear power and atuff even when I don’t need it

[unkempt blade]

It's been pretty rock solid for me. It used a lot more resources before they reworked it but now it doesn't even need a ton to run it

[west jackal]

i mean.. im going for > 2TW max power (WITHOUT AUGMENTERS)

i dont have the sloops for the augmenters 🙁

[fluid sapphire]

whats the hurry

[west jackal]

im 200h in and havent even started the final parts. I did have the thousand pasta sitting around, but none else.

i finally setup turbo motors (in t9) and am about to begin the 100h+ nuclear build, but i never figured out why my plastic factory randomly lost 1% effeciency.

[fluid sapphire]

i could probably slap stuff together too and finish phase 5 in a couple days, but whats the fun in that, dozens of side projects await

[plush trellis]

I have adhd. One of these days I will stop playing and not pick this game up again. I want to at least finish it

[west jackal]

join the club. ive started 5 or 6 runs that took 100h and never finished

[fluid sapphire]

1300h on the same save

[unkempt blade]

I wish the RAM price stuff would actually get devs to put a little more effort into optimizing games but I'm really juse expecting "Don't you guys have phones 32GB of DDR5?" kind of responses

[plush trellis]

I’m at phase 5. I have 2/4 items done. The 3rd is just need more copper powder for pasta. I have stuff for the 4th item. It’s just time

[west jackal]

i mean... i have 32/64, but the prices are coming down

ive been seeing 32GB kits for 200 ish USD lately

[fluid sapphire]

well, at least there are so many great games out that you're not really missing out on much by playing stuff from 5-10 years ago

[west jackal]

they arent the best ram, but they are pretty good

[unkempt blade]

Yeah not having a desire to buy $70 games that immediately have paid DLC/season passes/etc has really cut down on what sort of system reqs I have

[west jackal]

true.

[fluid sapphire]

yeah same

[plush trellis]

Pipeline only goes to level 2. Im shocked that it doesn’t go to at least level 3

[shy temple]

Ditto. The irony of how the gaming industry practically killed themselves as well as the flex race by designing to top tier products most cannot afford.

[fluid sapphire]

games already also looked so good 10 years ago that personally i could just play games that look like that for the rest of my life, i dont need them to look better

style over realism

[shy temple]

A chronic problem for me in games like this and then when I do, I restart

[clear aspen]

Hello chat

[fluid sapphire]

played Prey recently, its easily a game that could have been released last year, it looks great

[plush trellis]

I don’t. Because it’s kinda spoiled for me at that point which is why I don’t rewatch tv shows and atuff

[south sinew]

Prey is a great game

[unkempt blade]

I feel like I've been having that convo since at least the early days of WoW. If there's already some imagination/suspension of disbelief going on to enjoy a game I don't think super realistic graphics move the needle much for me

[fluid sapphire]

probably somewhere in my top 10 of all time

exactly, good graphics cant save a bad game

[slim frost]

wow is the best game, ever, period

[abstract heron]

i hate the dumb when the hotbar locks and i have to reset my world or restart it to make it work

[unkempt blade]

This is one of my "old man yelling at clouds" takes I guess but I still think MMOs/WoW are interesting I'm just not sure I appreciate the current community and how they play the game as much as I used to

It was a lot more fun when it was more of a social medium with a shared activity than with everything being tutorialed and tier listed and minmaxxed

[slim frost]

but im stuck in the past too.. when it comes to wow, so im on wow classic annivarsary edition.. having a blast, but log in for daily and raiding.. rest of the day i run satisfactory

[supple canopy]

there's been a lot of discussion about this when valheim dropped, and it's not a new conversation I'm sure there was that same discussion around minecraft, but yea realism basically immediatly caters to the mass normies, the same public that'll buy FIFA every single year. There are good realistic games but it's basically just a selling point

[floral sparrow]

Can anyone recommend a resource or video for someone trying to elevate my buildings a little bit above big orange boxes aesthetically? I see tons of cool factory designs online but feel a little lost thinking of where to start in my own builds

[supple canopy]

stin archi ; total Xclipse

[unkempt blade]

The graphics were never my issue with Valheim. I just don't like their release cycles and a lot of the direction for recent biomes

Wait no I have one graphics adjacent complaint - an entire biome with so much fog that it's annoying to do anything is a stupid decision

[leaden turret]

looks at chat

looks at channel

other games are #off-topic-general

[slim frost]

yeah, we went alitle off topic

[unkempt blade]

I love you Marv even if you blocked me

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> I feel like that plant on the table in your streaming office is missing a cat nomming for no apparent reason

[west jackal]

Marv are you able to help getting someone unbanned on this server? USBeefaloPC (a community icon) has been banned due to him accidently posting a screenshot with a friend that had been scammed. he wasnt trying to scam anyone, he just didnt block it out like he should have

[leaden turret]

is what filing a ticket is for

[sturdy mural]

guys, can you play satisfactory with someone offline via lan?

as in "my internet sucks so bad i'm gonna straight up drive to the guy so we can play some multi satisfactory"

[clear aspen]

That’s crazy

[sturdy mural]

Beefalo got nuked??

[clear aspen]

Ig

[slim frost]

yeah, unban beefalo.. he was a nice guy

[clear aspen]

I hope there’s an appeal system

[shy temple]

What happened with Beefalo, is that something that can be talked about? I hadn't seen any issue with that user or anybody since I came back. An account hack?

[unkempt blade]

I would think so just using the local network IP address to pick the server but I've never actually tried

[clear aspen]

I was wondering why beefalo wasn’t here, know I know why

[earnest condor]

When he comes back he needs to change his name to either Porkalo or Fishalo 😉

[clear aspen]

If he does hopefully

[earnest condor]

@junior tide what's your hex code for that Yellow?

[shy temple]

THink only ever had two bans. One was an oops by a bot moderator in TDU discord because it thought something was a bad word because of the way a sentence was.

Then forza because I was upset about something that happened with horizon 4 and was bitter about it (not hostile or derogatory, but they didn't like negativity on their discord)

[clear aspen]

I’ve only had timeouts iirc

[junior tide]

60
1
12

[earnest condor]

That is.. not a hex code format? 😭

[west jackal]

he posted a screenshot asking for help for his friend that had his account hacked, in the screenshot it had a picture of the scam and he didnt think to block it out. i dont think he did anything wrong, but i can see why the bot wouldve thought so

[west jackal]

that looks like RGB, no?

[clear aspen]

Is it a perma ban?

[west jackal]

uh idk, he was sent an appeal thing through discord bot im pretty sure, was trying to see if there was a way to speed it up

[clear aspen]

I’m trying to dm beefalo about this

But whtevs I hope they come back tho

[worn oar]

Harambe

[empty bridge]

hi all

[void cliff]

My lizard doggo action figure’s tongue fell off 🙁

[empty bridge]

I've set up production of screws which also makes iron ingot in the production chain in case I need some. What other items should newbie players start producing?

[shy temple]

I am glad it was something innocuous. Hope they are back soon.

[leaden turret]

what were you doing with it

[shy temple]

Most early non station products are used in a range of construction. I recommend having something producing and storing to a container for most items.

One thing nice about satisfactory is most things have a use in some way or some part. It really comes down to how much of them you find yourself using. I cannot really think of anything that is not used in some fashion. Usually slower manufacturing later tier items are used in lower quantities.

Early stuff can be used a lot.

[severe lava]

ive been outa the loop a while , when is 1.2 pushing to live please

[leaden turret]

soon™

[shy temple]

No official push date. It is usually a few months after announcement when the experimental players finish breaking things.

[leaden turret]

next exp patch is last exp patch

[severe lava]

u playing it rn?

[shy temple]

Sad. I wanted a mini depot to load factory carts.

[earnest condor]

Um... you will never randomly need Iron Ingots.
So it is pointless to store them.

[west jackal]

yeah he dmed me about it since he just dissapeared (including all the content hes provided here for people 🙁 )

[severe lava]

i am between a rock and hard place . I want to start again and over but i kinda want to wait for 1.2 but what its a month or more out?

[earnest condor]

Go forward between them and just start playing 1.2 right now.

[clear aspen]

Hoping for all he gets another chance

[west jackal]

yeah, i dont think what he did was that wrong, we will have to wait and see though

[severe lava]

u get achievements from exp branch sir?

[shy temple]

Is a tough call if you want to go onto experimental or not. And if over a month.... tough call.

[earnest condor]

You need a game to tell you that you achieved something? 🤔

[shy temple]

people enjoy chasing goals.

Sometimes can be fun challenges.

[sturdy mural]

my brain goes :3 when i see the blue ribbon on the game on steam

[severe lava]

nah just mean since 1.0 I didn't do a complete run yet so whenever i do start again I want to do a full run sir

[earnest condor]

I get this.

But one can set own goals and accomplish them, no?

[shy temple]

Yup, but there is something about meeting challenges set by others.

[surreal ingot]

The one thing I hate about the game is having to break everything down and start up again when you get new stuff you gotta make

[earnest condor]

Steam

[sturdy mural]

?

[tall lantern]

good thing you never have to do that innit

[earnest condor]

The only game keeping Steam installed on my PC is Valheim.

[shy temple]

You don't have to. Why would you, unless you are trying to maximize every deposit of resource.

[sturdy mural]

do you use epic then?

[severe lava]

ive yet to 100% any game lol I am hoping satisfactory to be the first

[earnest condor]

Aye.

[severe lava]

but yea achievements are lack luster . we need more

[earnest condor]

Afaik achievements work on Exp.

[shy temple]

The only time there is teardown from my experience is the initial phase before I have foundations unlocked. Cause then I tear down so I can build on foundation.

[surreal ingot]

I mean obviously part of the fun of the autistic math game is being autistic and doing math by maximizing outputs so everything is done smoothly

[sturdy mural]

ew
imagine using the " log in once a week for a free game" app for games instead of steam

[surreal ingot]

And for people who don’t know what they’ll need in the future you tend to not make space initially

[leaden turret]

oh that reminds me, I should check what this week's free game is...

[severe lava]

sir , can u move ur save from exp branch to 1.2 when it goes live sir?

[earnest condor]

Imagine using the app that pays devs less instead of wanting to support developers more.
🤷‍♂️

[shy temple]

True. I just have what I call old town myself. Small little factories producing the essentials I need for other things.

[tall lantern]

there's a difference between "this factory is working exactly as it should" vs "this factory's working but I need moar so gonna delete and rebuild a working thing"

[shy temple]

Every piece of concrete I use in my game for example comes from my very first concrete plant I built (after getting my foundations to build it on)

[reef basin]

building more is less time intensive and produces better results

[surreal ingot]

^

[earnest condor]

I would never recommend this.
Pick your targets and solve backwards from there.

If you need 584 iron from a node, do not force it to make 600 "just because" 🤷‍♂️

[sturdy mural]

nothing cool
last week was Clone Drone tho, awesome game

[surreal ingot]

My target is make rotors and reinforced plates and the basic essentials evenly so that there is no overflow

[severe lava]

can u move ur save from exp to 1.2 when it goes live?

[reef basin]

there is no overflow if you clock machines 🙂

[earnest condor]

There will always be overflow when storage fills. 🤔

[sturdy mural]

imagine having an incomprehensible and difficult UI

[shy temple]

That isn't overflow, that is the surplus to go help the puppies and kittens

[surreal ingot]

I’m still before finding slugs and I want my fatty to be making things while I go search

[reef basin]

don't need slugs to underclock

[sturdy mural]

unless they changed it

[earnest condor]

RIPs are 60 iron = 5
Rotors are 45 iron = 4

[surreal ingot]

Yep, and out of 4 miners making 120 per minute each, the math is easy to split. I just need to tear down my started factory and redo it so it’s even and neat

[earnest condor]

So if your target is 20 RIP/min, you need 240 iron/min.

[surreal ingot]

But I also have like no space so I have to annually build a factory platform off this cliff

[shy temple]

No space? Is that a thing?

[clear aspen]

U need slugs to unlock the ability to under lock

[earnest condor]

Yes, but I am saying for the future and avoiding headaches -- do not start with "I have this much iron."

Start with "I want to make X amount of this item" and solve backwards from that point.

[surreal ingot]

I don’t see a difference between what I said and what you’re saying

[severe lava]

@earnest condor sir can we move Exp branch save file to 1.2 when it goes live? i know years ago it didnt work

[reef basin]

you're artificially limiting yourself to make use of 4 miners, instead of being open to use more/less to get the amounts you want

[earnest condor]

It has always worked.
Seemlessly.

The only thing that can make it weird moving save files from Exp back to the matching live version is if you mod.

[severe lava]

"always'' is strong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRc1dgpRDrM

XD thank u sir . that

I will start all I needed to know

[earnest condor]

Been here since before it was even available on Steam.

Every Exp to Live save transfer was perfect.

[reef basin]

that's... not related to your question?

that talks about why you cannot go back with a save

[severe lava]

the title of the video is why don't the saves from experimental work on normal"

and im just joking 🙂 thank u

[reef basin]

yeah, and that means "current experimental and current normal", which (at the time when experimental is live) means that experimental is ahead of normal

[surreal ingot]

Well my plan is to use each miner I have for plates, rods, screws, then one making the rotors and plates, and then from there I can wait to need more for when I get a truck, and then I can just have it take stuff elsewhere for other projects if needed

[cold berry]

I love truck stations and train stations. I'd marry one

[west jackal]

@leaden turret The link sent to beefalo in the appeal bot is invalid, what should he do to get unbanned? it says his appeal was accepted? (he is still unable to join the server though)

[leaden turret]

Also file a ticket saying appeal bit broken

[west jackal]

i should file the ticket?

[leaden turret]

Well beefalo can't exactly file the ticket 😅

[clear aspen]

So there’s no Appeal system?

[west jackal]

there is, he was accepted by it, but was still unable to join

[clear aspen]

Ahh

[lean fossil]

Is pure uranium non existant?

[clear aspen]

There are no pure uranium veins

[lean fossil]

Pure unfiltered hate

[west jackal]

not in vanilla. but 2100 uranium/min can get you 1.5TW if you do full chain

[lean fossil]

alright I made an outpost and named it FUCK HUMANITY because it's for my nuclear reactor.

[worn oar]

FINALLY FOUND CAST SCREWS LET'S GOOOOOO

[lean fossil]

#screenshots message

is this pretty good?
(will increase miner efficiency I'm just curious about the recipes/layout)

[surreal ingot]

Anyone got any good videos to watch to get how I should be setting up stater factories to be most efficient?

[worn oar]

Don't do that, just play blindly. It's the most fun, and by looking up most efficient anything you are depriving yourself of the majority of the fun

If you do not want to do the math in your head or a machine you can use a tool like satisfactory tools or satisfactory modeler to do that math for you

[reef basin]

none

learn on your own, rather than copy-pasting potentially bad decisions from someone else

[surreal ingot]

I love asking a question and instead of the question being answered people tell em how I’m doing it wrong by making assumptions on why I want the videos

[earnest condor]

Most videos are bad, biased info.
So I cannot really recommend them due to that context.

[worn oar]

One of the worst things about streamer and youtube culture is the proliferation of efficiently minmaxing the fun out of games. Satisfactory is designed to show you the fun as you play. And it's likely that you'll want to tear down or move on from old builds as your technology is unlocked, so a lot of your early stuff will not be permanent.

Again, just play the game.

[lean fossil]

how much do 11 nuclear nukies make.

[worn oar]

27,500 MW

[surreal ingot]

I’m not planning on copying every video I see my dudes I just want a little guidance for tricks I am not realizing myself.

[lean fossil]

oooooooh i need that asap

[worn oar]

:clueless:

Managing the waste is the drawback of nuclear :)

[lean fossil]

yeahhhhh I'll just make a tower of storage until I unlock plutonininum

[worn oar]

That's usually what people do

[mortal ginkgo]

I dont think there are any tutorials like that due to the scope of variations as some decors, some yolos.

There are tricks and tips ones you can search especially from Kibitz and Cohhcarnage

[surreal ingot]

Thank you, someone who actually can answer my question. I appreciate you

[lean fossil]

so slight issue

[worn oar]

Ok just look up a no-glitch speedrun and copy them exactly, enjoy your optimized playthrough buddy ^^

[lean fossil]

I need ai limiters
BUT I have a mini MEGA factory
should I use a drone, train or just you know...conveyor belt

[surreal ingot]

Literally just said that’s not what I’m fucking saying I want to do.

[lean fossil]

Hey calm down my friend

[earnest condor]

Belt.

[surreal ingot]

Why say that to me and not the person being passive aggressive?

[white dawn]

I mean honestly both of you are raising the temperature in the room -- best to just ignore each other at the moment

Currently nobody's got a Good Look going on. :)

[mortal ginkgo]

No problem. searchig for kibits tips and tricks gives you a 1hour 35min about alot.

Also if you want my simple opinion, automating certain amount of stuff except for screws is good. If you are into decor you need to make alot of concrete and iron plate and quartz. other things can be from 10min to 30min np

[white dawn]

<- look at me "helping" :D

[mortal ginkgo]

your kind of people are extremely toxic. "play like you want bro, its sandbox bro, just have fun bro".

As if they are brainless to not know these themselves.

[lean fossil]

Agreed just put on a blanket

[surreal ingot]

I like having the extra storage, just in case I don’t want to sit here and wait for half an hour for enough resources to be made when I forget I need something. I get the idea of “just make what you need” though

[lean fossil]

Alright unreasonable crashout incoming

[mortal ginkgo]

oh what I mean is almost everyhing aside from stator and screws is needed for building stuff. and there are some few others mid to late game but you will understand them right away

[lean fossil]

#screenshots message

I need ideas on how to route this copper to make copper sheets-

[mortal ginkgo]

unhinged mental image

[worn oar]

Literally everyone who wants to optimize the fun out of their starter factory should be told not to do that vigorously, and I stand by this opinion.

[lean fossil]

😭

[mortal ginkgo]

cant help. noone can.

[lean fossil]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[mortal ginkgo]

my hub is extremely optimized to run stable 100% and also looks pretty to the booth.

you dont see.me complaining about how unfun the game is.

there is a reason people use other peopls BPs. thats fun for them

they ask a question regarding about how to play the game. They are not asking if they are correct or not in your view.

[worn oar]

And you're probably a lot farther along than starter base. I would argue that before nuclear, all optimization is premature optimization.

[surreal ingot]

Kibits first tip: do not start in the forest.
Me, looking at my forest start

[mortal ginkgo]

OH NO BRO YOU PLAY THE GAME WONG YOU NEED TO LIKE START IN SPACE LOLZZZOMG

[worn oar]

A great example of why youtubers are wrong. The forest is a great starter location that has been carefully crafted so that unlocks and exploration are spaced out at appropriate distances.

[weak bloom]

By that logic literally anything that isn't 100% blind is optimizing the fun out of the game.
You do realize it's possible to engage with content about a game and still get engagement and fun out of it right

[lean fossil]

THIRTY MORE CONSTRUCTORS

[mortal ginkgo]

North Forest is pretty, rich in resources and provides intentional lure to desig verticality

[surreal ingot]

This forest start is probably my hardest start out of any I’ve done so… I’m inclined to agree with him actually

[mortal ginkgo]

But is it meh? it is meh. Still a good meh for a beginner.

[weak bloom]

Personally my middle ground was to toss on kibitz' let's plays as background noise while I did my own thing on the factory and I'd just pick up tips via osmosis. But I guess I optimized the fun out of my experience right 🙃

[surreal ingot]

I need to understand vertical design more, it might help my building a little

[unkempt blade]

Youtubers are a scourge on gaming. They should be ignored

[mortal ginkgo]

verticality is gud. you might be surprised to know that, air is indeed free space
👁️👄👁️

[mortal ginkgo]

no ur mom

[worn oar]

I wouldn't go that far, but taking their words as gospel can ruin the fun

[surreal ingot]

I’ve just been doing horizontal builds, but maybe vertical builds could look prettier for me

[weak bloom]

It's also why I basically never power shard anything other than resource machines. Space is functionally infinite

[worn oar]

There is a lot more need to go vertically when you have 1200 ore coming out of a miner that needs to be split into 150 machines to produce 10/minute of something. At the start horizontal and vertical are both totally viable

[mortal ginkgo]

late game things get spammy in numbers. using free air space will make you worry less

[unkempt blade]

She's a classy lady but she needs to quit watching youtube too

[surreal ingot]

I might restart this run to try something different

[unkempt blade]

there's a lot of people who just want to outsource their decisions instead of figuring a game out

[coarse nova]

https://imgur.com/a/j5gwvQx

guys help

i HATE those particles, they're so annoying

how do i get rid of them

[worn oar]

Congrats, the 5 minutes of kibitz you watched already ruined the fun.

[surreal ingot]

Alright Ryzor is getting blocked

[worn oar]

Easy block, goodbye! Enjoy your optimized speedrun!

[coarse nova]

anyone?

[worn oar]

I can't view imgur

[coarse nova]

ok, how do i upload then

[worn oar]

Try #screenshots

[quartz salmon]

I don’t really get what you guys were arguing abt, it doesn’t really matter if you do or don’t watch YouTubers

[coarse nova]

alr its in screenshots

help pls, i really hate those particles, a lot

[quartz salmon]

The dust?

[coarse nova]

ye

this is the first time i see it btw

[quartz salmon]

I think if you just build whatever it is you’re building on a foundation that won’t happen

I’m not sure if there’s a setting for that

[coarse nova]

that happens on a foundation as well

also happens on foundations

[quartz salmon]

Are you on experimental?

[coarse nova]

well this is the first time, and ye im on experimental

i never saw this earlier

[quartz salmon]

Probably just a bug that just popped up

Is it not going away at all?

[coarse nova]

i dont think so

it only happens when i sprint and fly

[worn oar]

Don't know, never seen it before

[coarse nova]

yup, looks like a new feature in experimental, it sucks

[worn oar]

Play with the graphics settings

[quartz salmon]

If I’ve seen it before than it just didn’t bother me and I didn’t notice

[coarse nova]

i noticed it instantly

[quartz salmon]

That might just be a visual bug tho

[coarse nova]

it never happened before, and it covers my screen when i wanna build something

[unkempt blade]

Streamers don't recommend factory carts nearly enough. They clearly hate fun and are therefore bad for gaming

[quartz salmon]

Go ask in #satisfactory-experimental

[crisp vine]

Steel screw worth the harddrive or nah?

[quartz salmon]

I use factory carts over trains

[unkempt blade]

you're ok then, you're not a scourge on gaming

[lean fossil]

#screenshots message

[quartz salmon]

Ya I just hold all the items in my inventory and ride the cart to my destination where I need the resources

[lean fossil]

is this a good spot

[quartz salmon]

Good spot for what

[unkempt blade]

they're all good spots, just build somewhere that has scenery that makes you happy 😄

[gleaming wasp]

does headlift stack?

[quartz salmon]

But what is it a good spot for in his situation

[lean fossil]

s-s-s-scenery?...

You think...I build good factories?...

[unkempt blade]

building stuff or driving carts around or whatever

[gleaming wasp]

as in, if i put a pump right outside my oil extractor, will i get 50+10=60m headlift?

[lean fossil]

I can only build a square box in MINECRAFT

[quartz salmon]

What is Blud yapping about

[unkempt blade]

like full on cube or more of a rectangular prism?

[lean fossil]

No literally just a cube.

I cant build for shit so it's gonna be hard to decorate ANY factory I build

As for the scenery

I can try belting the whole place with nuclear waste

[manic geode]

still early in my game, is there a way for me to assign the quick access slots or does the game do that automatically? (IE: 1, 2, 3, etc)

[lean fossil]

just press the numbers while hovering over it in the build menu

[whole robin]

Hit the 1-0 keys while hovering over a building or building/blueprint

[surreal ingot]

Same, building is a scourge on my life. Trying to be better at it though

[lean fossil]

#screenshots message
and is this good cause I'm gonna be seeing it a whole lot

[uneven path]

Do you like it?

[manic geode]

yall are amazing! thank you!!

[shy temple]

Nope, it is from the machine. output, If you want to see how high a headlift goes, put a pipe section where you want the pump, then snap pump onto pipe. Do not build it, but you will see a highlighting effect that shows how high it lifts to.

[gleaming wasp]

yeah it did the blue thing around the pipes i want it to go to but ion seeing anything

[shy temple]

#screenshots message That is a great idea @median drift How do you place it? Drop from inventory? Or is there ways to actually display things.

[green fiber]

extractors down have such a blue ring

youre better of just ignoring those 10m from the extractor and put the pump flat on the floor

[gleaming wasp]

that's what i'm doing

[shy temple]

At most, use a foundation to estimate is what I do. I just count 4m blocks. I forget the highlighting exists. I wish we could see it when it was already connected.

[median drift]

Yeah I just dropped the ACU on a roadblock corner.

[void cliff]

Only if you put the pump at approximately 10m elevation

[hollow mountain]

guys where's the best place for a first aluminum settup

[shy temple]

Hey Duke, there are a couple good spots. I have a preference if you would like me to say and a reason. All have advantages and drawbacks.

[earnest condor]

What biome did you start in?

[shy temple]

Side tip, I like to use geothermal to power radio towers to get nice scans

[hollow mountain]

the grass biome south

[shy temple]

How good are you at dealing with hostile wildlife?

and stinky rocks?

[earnest condor]

Base recipe or do you have the Sloppy/Electrode combo?

[hollow mountain]

i have the game on passive lmao

[shy temple]

You chill if I say the biome?

[fluid sapphire]

there is no best place, at this point you can ship anything anywhere, including bauxite

[hollow mountain]

electrode? whats that? i have sloppy

[hollow mountain]

i have the map so i understand where the biomes are

[earnest condor]

Electrode is the Scrap one that means you use oil instead of coal.
I will assume you will acquire it for my recommendation.

[shy temple]

I personally went swamp to start this time because it has multiple things and is open and flat area to build over.

[hollow mountain]

ohh! i found it

[hollow mountain]

i really hate swamp but ok 😢

[shy temple]

If not on passive, it has a lot of hostile environment and creatures to deal with which is the hard part for that one. The stuff in the big forest can be a pain with the hilliness.

Then you got the red bamboo area, disadvantage being getting up there.

Those are the three key ones I remember top of my head without the map.

[earnest condor]

East Dune Forest is my recommendation.

Next run just start in RD @hollow mountain 😉

[fluid sapphire]

again, you can ship the bauxite anywhere

[hollow mountain]

i dont have a train system yet

never found a use up to now

[fluid sapphire]

no better time to start

[hollow mountain]

im scared to use idk how

[reef basin]

experiment

[warped whale]

Start building, learn as you go.

[shy temple]

Trains arent so bad if you follow the keep it simple. If you have good basic resources, then just run two train lines, one for each direction.

Where they can be trouble is overly complex intersections.

My trick is make a simple blueprint for a -railroad tie- so you can snap tracks to them.

[earnest condor]

Trucks my beloved.

[quartz salmon]

I’ve only ever used trucks and tractors but after thinking about it a lot more I need to switch to trains

Electricity is just better than fuel

[earnest condor]

Better is subjective.

[fiery pewter]

Use the fuel to make electricity

[unkempt blade]

factory carts don't need fuel

[shy temple]

@hollow mountain #screenshots message Here is a rail line of mine to show how I use ties

[faint willow]

Working on getting coal power setup now, just a matter of figuring out managing the space.

[hollow mountain]

that look simple

[shy temple]

Yup, even that is complex for a tie. Main thing is I have the foundation, snap rail to foundation, rotate if needed to square it up.

If a hill, I will put a slope on it and make a ramp to keep it clean.

Can make single rail and double ties. Plus lifting it will help keep from subtle clipping etc.

The big recommendation for longer train lines I do have? Quantum containers for the resources you use in building the train. Or do a service truck loaded with resources

[unkempt blade]

It's very BP-friendly too if you just need an easy base for rail lines

[shy temple]

Exactly. I actually double up the bp with bp snapping.

[fluid sapphire]

different tools for different jobs, i have trucks that haul resources to train stations that the trains then ship farther out

[shy temple]

SO I would place three down snapped, then use blueprint delete to remove two. Allowed for perfect spacing in longer straights.

[empty bridge]

Hi All. My scanner can’t seem to find mushrooms so what do I do pls?

[hollow mountain]

guys why does satisfactory randomly bring SAM when i need bauxite?

[surreal ingot]

how long until trains are a thing i can make

[reef basin]

wdym? like you find a node that you don't want to find?

[fluid sapphire]

steel production

oil production -> computer production for signaling

[hollow mountain]

i mean the satisfactory tool say i need sam and copper to make bauxite instead of just mining bauxite

[surreal ingot]

Danke

[unkempt blade]

go to basically any cave or cut down any of the big coral looking stuff in some biomes

[fluid sapphire]

turn off SAM in the inputs, or turn off all the converter recipes

[reef basin]

disable SAM then

or disable the converter

[hollow mountain]

yeah thats better thks

[empty bridge]

Where do I find caves ?

[shy temple]

caves is a pretty ambiguous statement. there are caves all over the map.

[reef basin]

as for answer - it optimises for weighted resource values, and SAM conversions is slightly cheaper in that regard

[unkempt blade]

all over the map but mostly inside of rocks 🙂

[hollow mountain]

ohhh i see

[brave grove]

Why is does the factory kart have negative traction bro

[fluid sapphire]

operates only on foundations

[brave grove]

I know but even on foundations it ends up spinning out every five seconds

How is a man expected to use his epic race track with epic baller jumps if the factory kart can't go in a straight line

[hollow mountain]

this game suck btw coffee doesnt even spill from the cup when i look up or down

0/10

[reef basin]

how do you know it's coffee?

[hollow mountain]

its black and i dont die when i drink it

[reef basin]

you don't drink it tho

you have a helmet on your head, you cannot drink it through that

[hollow mountain]

what about the drinking sound

[reef basin]

that one you're just making/imagining

[hollow mountain]

bruh

[warped whale]

We're definitely shoving the coffee through the filter and bathing in it in the suit.

[reef basin]

I mean the "coffee" doesn't disappear right?
so you're not drinking it

[hollow mountain]

yeah but maybe there's something in it that make it infinite

or the dev just didnt think about it

[feral vector]

I'm starting to overwhelm myself with keeping track of resources lol hmm

[warped whale]

There's a tube going into the mug, being fed from the suit bath

[feral vector]

maybe I need an excel sheet or something, satisfactory tools has everything separate but I gotta figure out how much aluminum I have left and how much plastic I'm using total and stuff

[feral vector]

gross lol

[shy temple]

There is a thunk sound when you try, and so your character makes the sound imagining

[warped whale]

I've been using the map for the few important notes on surplus materials ex. Steel Factory (Surplus 100 Steel Pipes)

[shy temple]

Sarcastic reply: Is easy. Belts full, you have enough, belts not full, you need more.

[serene jolt]

If I update to 1.2 can I still load my old multiplayer saves once everyone is on 1.2?

[civic ore]

Is there a way to place the ceiling lights perfectly so that there are no bright/dark spots?

[glad carbon]

Question, would it be better going (alt rec) heavy oil residue -> residual fuel -> (alt rec) nitro rocket fuel
Or
(Alt rec) heavy oil residue -> (alt rec) diluted fuel -> (alt rec) nitro rocket fuel
(This is all for fuel gens btw)

I dunno what to decide on :p

[earnest condor]

I use the baseline RF recipe because it works better with Ionized. 😬

[crisp vine]

I see a lot of poeple going ALT Heavy then diluted fuel into whatever else they want, haven't gotten that far but thought it would be a notable thing to point out

[earnest condor]

But Diluted will give you more Fuel per Oil than Residual does, so definitely option 2.

[fluid sapphire]

diluted fuel gets you a lot more ofc

[untold moat]

honestly HOR>DF just gets you so much more fuel to the oil input

[earnest condor]

I'm just not a fan of Nitro, personally.

[manic geode]

sooo is the space elevator the 'central' building for stuff? like my factory layout should have that as its focus?

[untold moat]

define better.

[earnest condor]

It is not.
But you can put it there if you work better with a "center" point.

[untold moat]

could if you want. you could also have it way out in the middle of nowhere and send everything to it via trucks.

[glad carbon]

Like better for produce count

[earnest condor]

Diluted.

[crisp vine]

Good to know as I'm now getting into fuel power (gotta refine my layout on my factory first to then expand into fuel) but great information

[untold moat]

for amoutn of production its HOR>DF

[glad carbon]

Aight

[untold moat]

residual fuel is good when you are doing initial oil and need to do something with the HOR, but once you hit fuel power, DF (or Diluted Packaged Fuel) makes it so much better

[glad carbon]

Finally moving from solid biomass lmfao

[crisp vine]

LOL you held out this long???? I moved to coal the second I could lol

[earnest condor]

That being said, I still prefer the default RF recipe because it works better with Ionized.

[glad carbon]

Really?

[untold moat]

almost as bad as me (who once handcrafted everything until fuel power)

[earnest condor]

If you use the default RF recipe with how I do Ionized, you eliminate Coal and Sulfur from the production line entirely by just looping the Compacted outputs back to the Turbofuel.

[glad carbon]

My first playthrough i hand crafted everything till phase 3 😭

[untold moat]

IIRC yes, however whether you want to go with IF as the final instead of rocket fuel is up to personal taste. I don't believe its worth the extra complexity

[glacial totem]

can you make materials pass through a constructor if it's turned off? or do you have to just belt around it

[crisp vine]

Did that on my first and current playthrough not even in phase 3 yet, but I'm getting bored of AFK central

[glad carbon]

Tbf tho i cant do ionised for a while, im still not done with phase 4 :p

[earnest condor]

Infinite power shards + the best jetpack fuel in the game is worth imo.
And it isn't that complex, given I eliminate resources from the production...

[untold moat]

I am curious, why would you want materials to pass through constructors without being processed?

because yes, you would have to belt aroudn it

[earnest condor]

Nothing is pass-through other than storage containers.

[faint willow]

Lowkey wish there were 45-degree horizontal catwalk pieces, they'd be kinda nice in this build I'm doing.

[glacial totem]

At the moment I have it set for making reinforced plates but I want to change it to rotors and without booting the game and checking the ingredients, doesn't the setup needs less constructors

[earnest condor]

45 degree belt mode when?

[glacial totem]

ok here's my answer

[glad carbon]

Oh btw on the signs why does it blur out "HOR" cuz i keep having to work around it when im writing stuff down

[untold moat]

well yes, but RIPs and Rotors use different ingredients overall, so without smart splitters, it would be unwise to just try to switch recipes in the existing infrastructure you have

[glacial totem]

cool I'll use splitters

[untold moat]

keyword is smart splitters, as they are different than normal splitters

[untold moat]

can you ping me in #screenshots with an example as I haven't heard of that before

[earnest condor]

An RIP Assembler is going to need 60 iron input to run at 100%.
Rotor, by contrast, needs only 45.

[untold moat]

@glad carbon fascinating... Out of curiosity do you have any profanity filters active, as thats the only guess I have currently

[earnest condor]

-# Modular Frame being 48.

[glad carbon]

I lowk didnt know they had any 😭

[untold moat]

I didn't either but something is happening there

[glad carbon]

Lets me type it in, if i got a number before it

[civic ore]

Is signs lighting up the environment not on console?

[untold moat]

do you have emissives turned on?

[ornate saffron]

IM BACK! THE BOT REMOVAL SYSTEM WORKS!

If it makes a mistake you can come back woot woot ( I f'd up too)

[untold moat]

?

[civic ore]

Yeah I do at max too

[crisp vine]

WELCOME BACK USBEEF!!!!!

[earnest condor]

Yes, but you are required to change your name to Porkalo.

[civic ore]

It looks emissive but it’s actually not

[untold moat]

do you have all graphics settings turned on max?

[ornate saffron]

Oh, Ill be making a change. I need to consult the Beefalo Clan list

[civic ore]

Yeah I guess it’s just not on console then

[glacial totem]

I don't have these yet

[ornate saffron]

MaM is great. do your self a favour and make research a prioirty. there is a lot of great stuff you can get

[glacial totem]

I will now I spend less time watching things go round the conveyor belts

[tepid spear]

Mhhhh Pipes are scuffed

[earnest condor]

No?

[whole robin]

Try to unlock as much as possible in the MAM, as a loooot of the game is hidden behind it, including genuine blessings to your factory, including something lets you double the yield from any machine at the cost of power

[sharp creek]

guys

arent power slugs limited?

[fluid sapphire]

slugs, yes, shards, no

[whole robin]

In what way?

[sharp creek]

i just got one from my item dog

a purple slug from the dog

[earnest condor]

Technically no.

[fluid sapphire]

guess not then

[whole robin]

Mostly Yes, but using sloops you can make enough shards that you will never be able to use them all

[tepid spear]

Like I try to power 3 coal generators with water. I build Splitter for water nothing gies into the generator. Then I build pumps. Nothing changes

[trim flare]

is there a way to copy paint form a foundation? i no longer have that swatch and i have one placed

[fluid sapphire]

you can make roughly 5000 power shards, thats a trivial amount to use

[earnest condor]

Stop thinking about pipes in terms of belts.

[whole robin]

Can you send some screenshots to give some more info

[fluid sapphire]

post on #1038092680493801533

not in screenshots

[tepid spear]

Ohhhhhh my friend flushed the pipes. I dont know why but know I get it.

[whole robin]

Also, remeber that 120 coal and 3 water extractors can perfectly feed 8 coal generators

[tepid spear]

Thats my plan

[whole robin]

From how you described it, i thought you were only using a single extractor to feed just 3 coal generators

[tepid spear]

Oh ok

[latent prawn]

the slugs on the map won't respawn, but doggo ranching can yield extra. additionally, phase 5 tech lets you make powershards

...that also implies that they become purchaseable in the store

[fluid sapphire]

never considered the doggo, but yeah i also got that already

[latent prawn]

used to be a thing to gather together some doggos and do a little farming for them

[ornate saffron]

well.... if you get enjoyment from that i support it

[glacial totem]

I used to spend all the time at the base, harvesting leaves and feeding the bioburners. I was safe in my comfort zone.

Now that I have coal and a decent weapon I'm going to explore more

[latent prawn]

game functioning as designed 🙂

[glad carbon]

Oh yea how do ppl make glowing pipes, do i js need ionised fuel for that?

[ornate saffron]

thats a lot of fun

[ornate saffron]

ya, Ionised fuel and ||dark matter|| glow

[glad carbon]

Ah

[ornate saffron]

this is a good example

#satisfactory-experimental message

if you use the clean pipes you wont get the glow

[glad carbon]

Mhm

[cursive topaz]

Does anyone know if there is a way to place foundations in more than just one at a time

[ornate saffron]

switch modes to Zoop

[glad carbon]

Zoop, blueprints

Etc

[ornate saffron]

Zoop, zoop

[cursive topaz]

Thanks I think I have placed a 50x50 or larger grid by hand

I’d have to count how big my starter mega factory is

[glad carbon]

😭😭 oh the pain

[ornate saffron]

When they added zoop during early access we were VERY excited lol

[cursive topaz]

Working on starting phase three automation, got the screws storing atm, love afk

[ornate saffron]

There is a mod to allow you to zoop in two directions at the same time. But i highly suggest doing your first playthrough unmodded

[cursive topaz]

Yea I’m on Mac (it’s not supported obv) and the game runs really well, I just don’t know if I could even mod