satisfactory

[ivory condor]

If you like suffering, screws are for you

[maiden kestrel]

how many hours do u have in the game tho

[fluid sapphire]

i never pay 30+ eur for a game... except satisfactory

[leaden turret]

4k+

[fluid sapphire]

1300 hours

[maiden kestrel]

crazy people

[ivory condor]

Im at 4400 hours here

[maiden kestrel]

is the learning curve steep or is it kinda like minecraft

[soft oyster]

my friend stopped playing this game after like 24min💔

[fluid sapphire]

isnt it crazy that of all places, people on the satisfactory server play a lot of satisfactory.. and they even like the game?

[astral moth]

The top 3 factory genre games for me has to be:

• Factorio
• Satisfactory
• Industrialist

(These aren't in order)

[soft oyster]

I'm alone forever

[fluid sapphire]

no, the game has one of the best tutorials in any game ever probably

and when you get stuck with anything this server is a fantastic resource

[maiden kestrel]

mkay thanks im probs buying it atp

[soft oyster]

maybe I brain surgery my friend and force to play satisfactory

[maiden kestrel]

hi whys there a maths channel?

[fluid sapphire]

game involves a fair bit of math, this helps organize stuff

[soft oyster]

cuz yk there's smart people

[ivory condor]

Maybe your friend doesnt like factory building games?

[fluid sapphire]

that friend is wrong

[empty bridge]

Hi all

[ivory condor]

Friendship ruined

[empty bridge]

Is there a published list of community servers people can join?

[ivory condor]

Huh

All servers lead to this one, who needs a list

[fluid sapphire]

given that the game supports up to 4 players, such a list would make no sense

[empty bridge]

No. Game servers

[rough shore]

hosting a public server wouldnt make sense

[empty bridge]

Ok

[rough shore]

Okay.

[fluid sapphire]

its not like minecraft where you can have hundreds of people dip in and out

[rough shore]

and its not like its an infinite world where each person can have their own factory and without it being destroyed

[supple canopy]

I have been spreading fake news all along

[reef basin]

well it was like that for a long time

so many people (including me) thought that

[rough shore]

i thought it was obvious that formula over direct

[reef basin]

Back in previous versions, the formula result was rounded, then clock speed was calculated and that was rounded again (with 4 decimal precision). So no, it was actually less accurate back then

[rough shore]

oh

[scenic mirage]

Is it possible to play satisfactory offline? It just says login timeout and to check my connection

[reef basin]

it is possible, though it needs some configuration. Don't remember from memory

[scenic mirage]

Oh wait nvm it let me in

[rough shore]

great

[scenic mirage]

Internet provider been down for like 6 hours or smth 😭

[rough shore]

factory can wait for 6 hours fr

[scenic mirage]

But I have to go to work today, cant do nothing for the factory

[stuck canopy]

for my next factory or if i deside to rebuild my current - f manifold

okey for power but not using it again

[fluid sapphire]

whats the problem?

if your math checks out manifolds work just fine, if it doesnt then alternatives wont work either

[stuck canopy]

gona go for hibrid system

[cold berry]

Making it automation/logistics because I'm into both and they're interchangable to me

1- Satisfactory
2-Minecraft Create mod (with mod packs for structured progression, my fav is "Create Above and Beyond in Newer")
3-Openttd will be in my played games for actually ever

Special mention to MineMogul, it's pretty early access, but it's fun and I think it's going places

Also not in order. Factorio looks cool but too sad aesthetically for my (real) bipolar depression. Which is weird because I play horror a lot too.

[scenic mirage]

Wdym hybrid? What went wrong with the manifold setup

[cold berry]

It just makes you a generic user if you play offline I think. So you may have to grab your shit from yourself? IDK

[scenic mirage]

Ye it worked just told me to check my connection, always been singleplayer too

[cold berry]

I just work here

[scenic mirage]

Huh

[stuck canopy]

building machine after machine doesnt need math so whats your point?

math is good, built with some overhead so overflow goes to depot and sink but still it strugles to work

[fluid sapphire]

if you want stuff to work well and at the same time think you dont need math to achieve that, i dont know what to tell you

[stuck canopy]

long ramp up time, resets if input is not stable (im using trains and thats other problem)

[fluid sapphire]

after spin up time works normally, game should keep you busy, manifolds dont need you to babysit them

if you have a supply issue with trains thats a different problem entirely

[stuck canopy]

30 heavy oil residue -> 32 heavy turbofuel -> 140 128 fuel generators and i still only get 10 GW out of 32GW

manifold scales fine thats why im gona use it for power but production uhh no

[small crypt]

turbo fuel is crap

[fluid sapphire]

not really a lot of info to go on, i would suggest making a post on #1038092680493801533

[stuck canopy]

what you offer in phase 2?

[small crypt]

trains are basically just a long belt, buffer each freight platform and no issues

[small crypt]

coal -> rocket fuel

[fluid sapphire]

thats phase 3

you cant make rocket fuel until phase 4

[small crypt]

yeah so use coal

[fluid sapphire]

diluted packaged fuel

[small crypt]

yeah regular fuel can bridge you if youre using tons of power

turbo fuel is just booty

[cold berry]

Coal is amazing. But you need plastic and rubber anyway, and so much of it, so I just use both. I just consider them two factories I need

[fluid sapphire]

fuel power is a straight upgrade to coal

going from coal to RF is a bit nutty

[cold berry]

Coal with Mk2 pipes though it's so good

[stuck canopy]

really? why turbo is bad?

[small crypt]

early i used a fuel gen to "sink" heavy oil residue from early plastic/rubber before recycling in dedicated factories

[fluid sapphire]

its a lot of effort for little return

[stuck canopy]

how is diluted less effort?

[cold berry]

Does turbo like, make more energy per minute? Because if not, I'm just making a packager for my jetpack lol

[small crypt]

and rocket fuel is very little effort for hilarious returns

[small crypt]

all fuels make same/minute some just have higher energy density

[fluid sapphire]

you can reprocess diluted fuel later into rocket fuel

[small crypt]

turbo is just bad at everything

[cold berry]

I see.

[small crypt]

rocket fuel is 72,000 MW from 300m3 of oil

[fluid sapphire]

yeah yeah, people always say that as if nitrogen and sulfur are not a factor

[stuck canopy]

im pumping heavy in and getting turbo out, i just need to change recipe to do that

[cold berry]

I still want to make some just to make it (my highest is I got halfway through unlocking phase 4 and then started over again because I understand logistics in this game better lol. I thought it was like, all automation, but there's so much vehicle and math stuff)

[small crypt]

theyre not

1 nitrogen node and 1 sulfur node

bfd

[fluid sapphire]

its a cost just the same, you are not just making it from oil

[small crypt]

so?

irrelevant as fuck

[fluid sapphire]

its not just oil, thats all, nothing more complicated

hardly

[cold berry]

Fellas, is it even worth making a munitions factory before you get the rifle?

[fluid sapphire]

you might want to make one at some point anyway, so why not

[small crypt]

i kinda made a little half assed one for explosive rebar

[leaden turret]

#satisfactory-memes message

[cold berry]

Because I'm doing a weird run. My plan is to do all the production needed in a phase, move biomes, use trains to move stuff from the previous phase either to storage or the next factory.

[small crypt]

i hate trains, belt highway for life

[cold berry]

You're a weird player

You remind me of a cat but as a Satisfactory player. You'll do things your way.

[small crypt]

just didnt want to lay miles of track

just blueprinted belts and they auto connected ezpz

i did make 1 push/pull train to see how they worked tho

[reef basin]

So you laid even more miles of belts

[cold berry]

But you're laying Miles of belts that you have to go back and upgrade

And can't run multiple resources of different kinds on

[small crypt]

can if you blueprint a 6 lane belt

[cold berry]

The dreaded 7th resource

[small crypt]

haha

but yeah laying train rails was a bitch and a half so i decided against subjecting myself to that nonsense

[cold berry]

I do some belt highest shenanigans too. And they can look good

But that seems more annoying to me

Lol

[fluid sapphire]

belt highway is 100x the effort fr

[small crypt]

belt highway doesnt need to be rotated every time you place it

[fluid sapphire]

haha what

[small crypt]

just plink plink plink plink done

[fluid sapphire]

every time you need more capacity, you build more belts?

[small crypt]

never needed more capacity

[small crypt]

#screenshots message

[reef basin]

rails also don't need to be rotated? 🤔

you make same blueprint as with belts, you make use of same autoconnect

[fluid sapphire]

idk that has never happened to me

[rough shore]

a normal rail rotated 180 degrees makes it go reverse fr

[fluid sapphire]

i lock and nudge, i dont even do whatever you are doing

[small crypt]

left clicking

[fluid sapphire]

i have a spacer blueprint that i use

i snap it to that, and delete it later

[small crypt]

yeah see belts required 0 dicking around to work, and i only ever needed them for alumina and very very very late game sulfur

[fluid sapphire]

skill issue honestly

[small crypt]

not gonna arrow key nudge and make special spacers and whatever else just to get rails to not tie themselves in knots

shit design != skill issue

[fluid sapphire]

no different than building anything else

[small crypt]

i dont recall anything else tying itself in a knot for no reason

except a pipe one time

[reef basin]

don't need that

make same blueprint as for belts, just with rails. Use it the same way as you do for belts

[small crypt]

i did, didnt work

[fluid sapphire]

it does turn itself around, its not that hard to correct it though

[reef basin]

didn't work how?

[small crypt]

#satisfactory message

so i just did belts for the 2 things that needed transport

[fluid sapphire]

is locking holograms and nudging them something you do like ever?

[small crypt]

yeah im not gonna do that every 100 meters for 3km

when i had something that already just works

[fluid sapphire]

ok, whatever you say, for normal people rail is much easier than belt highways xd

[small crypt]

well if normal people would rather mash their arrow key 100 times instead of left clicking them fuck em i dont wanna be normal

id rather get it done instead of wasting time working around stuff that doesnt work

[fluid sapphire]

seems to work just fine for most people 🤷

[small crypt]

well it didnt

as you could clearly see

[fluid sapphire]

mild inconvenience at worst

[small crypt]

then go nuts

holy fucking shit dude get off my dick why are you so obsessed with me and how i did shit in my own game

you asked what didnt work i showed you like damn let it go

[strange vortex]

What do i do if i lose motivaton to play satisfactory?

[fluid sapphire]

oof, how fragile

[small crypt]

just play something else man it's not a job

[small crypt]

are you fuckin touched?

[fluid sapphire]

no i just think its funny lol

its not that serious

[strange vortex]

Of all the possible answers, I didn't expect this one

[fluid sapphire]

take a break, its fine, not like the game is going anywhere, sometimes i dont play for a few months, then come back

[small crypt]

You're supposed to be having fun, if you have to force yourself to play, you're not having fun

[fluid sapphire]

yeah if its a chore, why keep going

[small crypt]

Don't try to force motivation, wait for inspiration

[tribal shell]

satisfactory modeler over here singlehandedly saving my run. For some reason Satisfactory tools is too confusing for me but SM is perfect

[fluid sapphire]

sftools is much simpler than modeler

[small crypt]

tools >>>>>>>>>>

youll summon greeny

[fluid sapphire]

he is always lurking

[tribal shell]

how about I use both 😏

[fluid sapphire]

whatever gets the job done

[reef basin]

use whatever works for you

but if you're having issues with SFTools, feel free to ask

[small crypt]

tools easily facilitated the workflow that i wanted to have so I'll always be biased toward it

I'd enable all alternates, disable sam, hit maximize, then just start taking away alts that i don't want to use, then that gave me an idea of what some of the better alts would be

[reef basin]

fyi, very much not recommended to use maximise for optimisation

[tribal shell]

well the most I'm struggling with is getting clean ratios. Because it always puts the machines in decimals if I put in x part per min

[small crypt]

yeah definitely, but it was a good way to get broad exposition to what alts were out there before i was familiar with all of them

[reef basin]

that's not a problem really, as you can change clock speed on machines (it even tells you the clock speed you need to put in)

[reef basin]

sure, just saying that maximise doesn't actually do any optimisation... so if there's multiple paths to reach the maximum, it can often pick non-resource-efficient one

[errant lantern]

Is it worth switching to turbofuel for my power generation

[small crypt]

no

[reef basin]

I would say no, stay at diluted fuel and then switch to/add nuclear

[earnest condor]

Worth is subjective to the individual.

[small crypt]

or rocket fuel, or both. i did rocket fuel, ill do nuclear next time, if there is a next time

[unkempt blade]

I think yes, and then just upgrade it to rocket when you unlock the stuff to make that

[small crypt]

i might do OC supercomputers next time too just to be different but damn the solid state supercomputers were SO GOOD ppl hate on batteries way too much

batteries doubled my next best supercomputer solution easily

[reef basin]

I don't understand the battery hate. It's great vehicle fuel

[earnest condor]

Trucks running on Batteries is good stuff.

Sulfur isn't rare 🤷‍♂️

[unkempt blade]

I think it's all the people that want to use every single bit of it to make rocket fuel and then don't actually use all the power they produce

[small crypt]

People get weird about quartz and sulfur but I never even used all the pures let alone the others

I just did what would make the least work for me

I never thought to use extra batteries for vehicles tho thats a thought

[unkempt blade]

yeah unless you're doing a really edge case kind of save resource scarcity just means you might have to spread out a little bit to get another node

[tribal shell]

different question then. is picking the right x part per minute important?

[fluid sapphire]

there are combinations of recipes and part numbers that can get you clean ratios

it just takes a lot of trial and error to find them

[earnest condor]

What's even more strange is people holding IRON as a resource of importance when you talk about things like Iron Pipe.. 😭

[small crypt]

Next time ill probably do batteries instead of rocket fuel for drones just to mix it up, and ill do the train thing if I can get the BP to work without fiddling with it. Or maybe a huge drone network (would have to be for throughput) idk lots of ideas.

Its weird I feel like I didnt really enjoy the game that much but im constantly thinking about going again lmao

[earnest condor]

Just make Ionized. No sulfur needed 😁

[fluid sapphire]

haha i always thought that was hilarious given how many iron ingots you can make from all the iron

[small crypt]

I used iron pipes in 1 early factory but I felt it was easier to get higher production rates just using the steel one

[fluid sapphire]

some of mine are pretty clean, i can toss you an example if you are looking for anything particular

[earnest condor]

Isn't the point of Ficsonium that it has no byproduct?

[tribal shell]

sure that'd help. Appreciate it

[earnest condor]

Basic Iron >

[fluid sapphire]

so anything in particular you are trying to math out?

me 90% of the time when i process iron (i have learned to live with it)

[unkempt blade]

at least BPs + more recently autoconnect made that setup so much easier than it was in EA

[tribal shell]

rn trying to make a basic iron factory (plates, rods, reinforced plates, modular frames. Cast screws alt for the reinforced plates)

[small crypt]

The pures seemed like such a good idea but dealing with water is just icky. If I was gonna use pures I would make a massive refinery factory on the ocean and (groan) train all the ores in then train them all out to their respective factories

[earnest condor]

No Rotor? 😭

[fluid sapphire]

for plates and rods
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Em0jwXrvEDQ9m1QdK4OY

for RIPs and MF (i sink the extra ingots)

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=GgYXDWYZ1sFzgjteUYaE

these should divide into smaller units easily

[tribal shell]

...I forgot about the rotor hahahhaahaa

[small crypt]

Something about the idea of having a huge circle of train tracks around the map to supply anything and everything seems really cool

[fluid sapphire]

for motors and rotors, same deal, should be able to divide this by a factor and still have clean ratios

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=oYWIhIibCR1g8R1H5tsA

[earnest condor]

180/180/90/90/45
Plate/Rod/RIP/Rotor/Frame is a pretty simple setup depending on recipes.

[tribal shell]

Thanks for the help guys :D

[fluid sapphire]

some of these recipes require steel production though

[earnest condor]

Copper Alloy >

[tribal shell]

I'll get there soon enough, this is a new save

[small crypt]

6️⃣7️⃣

[tribal shell]

now excuse me, demands more parts

[earnest condor]

I haven't even touched Crater yet 😂

West coast oil islands is where I have my 1000 ionized.

[small crypt]

i wanna use instant scrap at some point, i almos did but then i realized sloppy -> electrode was actually less work somehow

[tribal shell]

Anyone mad enough to build on paradise island?

[small crypt]

maybe we'll get an expansion where we have to turn another planet into a production facility, and get interplanetary trains, and that other planet should have sulfuric acid wells

[rough shore]

why interplanetary trains u couldve said rockets or something

[small crypt]

star rail mentioned

I like the water wells 😭

[placid stirrup]

We could get all Treasure Planet out here

[atomic venture]

i got aluminum sheets and frames automated yesterday

[small crypt]

done

ima have to solve that if i do my future planned train heavy playthrough

I just was not having a good time after like phase 3 so I just tunnel visioned until the end of the game to get it over with

ohhhhh so like default auto connect instead of blueprint auto connect? lemme log in rq and try this

#screenshots message 🤯

solves that problem thank you lol

it's all coming together

definitely

[reef basin]

Well, you pick the amount you need

[atomic venture]

alumin um

[fluid sapphire]

place your bets, will it stay this way
#screenshots message

[timid rune]

time to next project in the same save... -> 15 ADS/min

[earnest condor]

Attack Damage Carry?

[timid rune]

ADS even

[earnest condor]

😁

[timid rune]

only 150 automated wiring/min!

[earnest condor]

Automating Project Parts 😁

[stuck canopy]

30 refineries for heavy oil residue -> 32 refineries for heavy turbofuel + 38 assebmlers for compacted coal -> 128 fuel generators for 32 GW

vs

30 heavy oil residue -> 40 refineries + 40 packagers for diluted fuel + 20 water extractors -> 120 fuel generators for 30 GW

vs

30 heavy oil residue -> 20 refineries for residuel fuel + 40 packagers for diluted fuel + 20 water extractors -> 40 fuel generators for 10 GW

sorry for late reply got bizzy

[small crypt]

1 sulfur miner + 1 coal miner + 1 oil extractor + nitrogen extractor + 8 water extractors -> 11 refineries heavy oil -> 9 fuel blenders -> 9 rocket fuel benders -> 288 fuel generators for 72 GW

use dilluted fuel until you get rocket fuel then change your existing infra to it ezpz

1 oil node:
#screenshots message

[reef basin]

Diluted fuel until nuclear

[small crypt]

or nuclear

nuclear came too late in the game for me to do it, i could either go do nuclear or finish the game in the same amount of time

probably do it next time just to experience it

[timid rune]

30 warp drive was rough enough, this should be... better

[earnest condor]

30 v 40 v 20?
You mean 12 v 16 v 8? 😏

[earnest condor]

The only time I can see myself automating Project Parts is as a novelty at a point probably 100+ hours past launching the ship. 🤷‍♂️

[timid rune]

this is a novelty build haha

[stuck canopy]

huh?

[earnest condor]

Why build 30 when you can build 12 @ 250% 🤷‍♂️

[stuck canopy]

yea sure, my point still stands

[stuck canopy]

well coal wasnt cutting for me, turbo fuel needed less machines

[hard ivy]

Fuel would've needed even less

[stuck canopy]

how?

[hard ivy]

And rocket even less

[stuck canopy]

in what way fuel needs less machines?

[small crypt]

machine count is irrelevant when you can place hundreds a minute

[hard ivy]

Simple
Turbo fuel is just meh

[small crypt]

turbo fuel is just more dicking around for like no benefit over building half your rocket fuel factory and running power off it until late phase 3

[stuck canopy]

im still in phase 2

[small crypt]

then you can go either nuclear or rocket fuel, people seem to like nuclear because it's less spammy, but i like spam

[stuck canopy]

turbo less dicking around than diluted

[small crypt]

....no shot

[stuck canopy]

look at it

[small crypt]

it's literally adding a step after dilluted

how could it be less lol

[hard ivy]

It's not

[stuck canopy]

im not making diluted?

im not making fuel at all

from heavy oil straight to turbo

[timid rune]

that's what I am doing lol

12 @ 250% and slooped

[stuck canopy]

im not making any fuel in my setup

[small crypt]

well thats even worse because you're already losing 4x yield doing it that way

so doing 4x more for less

[earnest condor]

Somering is for Ionized! 😉

[earnest condor]

Not worth arguing. Their mind is set and will not be changed.

[hard ivy]

You're absolutely wasting resources then

600 oil, sulfur and coal for 20 GW instead of just 600 oil

[real shale]

HOR + Diluted my beloved

[small crypt]

by all means use turbofuel, do whatever you want, but you cant claim it's better

[timid rune]

ok I will barely have enough aluminum (+ sloop) for 30 warp drive + 15 ADS + 12.6 plutonium + 63 Fics rods

thisisfine.gif

well ADS leads to biochemical sculptor

actually... probs not enough aluminum for biochemical sculptor (oops!)

[atomic venture]

casing*

[supple canopy]

you're wasting jack shit, I force myself to use alts that use plastic/rubber because you can skip so much oil with alts you end up with 8000 leftover, besides heavy turbo is fun to play with

[green fiber]

turbo heavy has great ratios for rocket fuel (default, not nitro)

efficiency is meh but eh, there is still something neat about it

[supple canopy]

last I used heavy turbo was in U8, no rocket back then

[exotic frigate]

Cant claim it's more resource efficient per megawatt

[supple canopy]

but yea it's neat #design-and-architecture message
The HOR ratios were fun to play with

i'm dumb, this is turbo blend lol

last time I used heavy turbo was longer ago still lol

[exotic frigate]

All resources are infinite, so theres no wasting by using less efficient recipes. Yes you can get more out of your nodes by using more efficient recipes, but its highly dependent on skill, hard drives acquired, location, and willingness

[small crypt]

in a lot of factory games the only resource is time, in satisfactory it's definitely how much tedious bitch work i can tolerate doing per process

the less i have to I/O between processes the better

nitro rocket fuel was made for me haha

[green fiber]

Satisfactory, especialy with the blueprint system, only really punishes you for doing stuff in hindsight, not foresight

[exotic frigate]

For me I plan out the products, then I search for a location that best fits the node availability (distance) for the highest efficiency recipe.

And then I tailor the recipes for the location if I need to

[green fiber]

hm...
fun little fact: equipping the jetpack alone gives you superior air control for jumping (without even using the jetpack)
if you select ionized fuel as your prefered fuel, you gain even more free air control (just need at least 1 piece of fuel)

[earnest condor]

Ionized my beloved.

[green fiber]

the sideways and backwards air control when jumping is kinda ridiculous

[earnest condor]

You mean IRL you can't change directions mid-air? 😏

[leaden turret]

pioneer suit is sealed.

farticle thrusters.

[earnest condor]

Turbo Heavy Farts

Remove Hoverpack! 😁

[leaden turret]

isn't that what one of the newer nobelisks is for ?

[normal orbit]

pretty much

pulse nobbies

[green fiber]

shoot pulse nobelisks with rocket rebar

that detonates them all at once

works as well as a hypertube cannon lol

[timid rune]

might do the dumb thing and sloop constructor instead of the converter for slightly more trigons here lol

since I need 3720 trigons/min instead of 3600/min

and I can't be arsed turning on another converter

[supple canopy]

I reopen discord and I'm reading WHAT

even with fixed camera for vehicles?

hypertubes yea with that unhinged FOV I'm not surprised lol

[green fiber]

this is VERY important bug please help support so it gets fixed
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/69dfa0ff00cdc01befff188f

[supple canopy]

yea I first used ionized fuel right after an update and I thought they improved mid air control

[atomic venture]

just look away

[timid rune]

320x constructors

for iron wire alone

[green fiber]

iron wire moment

[timid rune]

alright bet XD

[earnest condor]

Why not 128 @ 2.5? 🤔

[timid rune]

Well that's what I am going to do

[earnest condor]

Also: Caterium Wire my beloved.

[timid rune]

stuff it I might as well make HMF in the same factory as automated wire

[supple canopy]

empty pfp should be illegal, so confusing

[timid rune]

If I don't count trigon the whole setup for 60 Bio sculptor/min is surprisingly not very power hungry

about 70GW at 100%

[violet glen]

Do I really need to put a pump after some water extractors, so the water reliably goes up 5m or so? I thought they have 10m built in headlift.

[timid rune]

60 bio scupltor is way less power hungry than 30 warp drive

[earnest condor]

They have 10m built-in, you do not need to pump.

[violet glen]

Well, it's not working without it though :D

But according to "putting 1m foundations next to it", it's just 5m up

Or does it measure from the bottom of the extractor or something?

[earnest condor]

Screenshots?

[tall lantern]

measures from the pipe output

[violet glen]

yeah, I measured from pipe out of it, to pipe in of the refinery

which is 5-5.5 foundations

[earnest condor]

Foundations are 4m tall.
5 x 4 = 20.

[green fiber]

use walls or beams to measure height

[violet glen]

the 1m foundations are not 4m tall, the 4m ones are

[green fiber]

foundations vary in thickness

[earnest condor]

So I return to: "Screenshots?"

[earnest condor]

I like my foundations at full girth, personally 🤷‍♂️

[old parrot]

i just automated gas filters and cluster nobs for the hazmat suit

[earnest condor]

Neither of those things go with the hazmat suit though?

[old parrot]

needed the gas filters for the research and the biproduct made the nobs

[violet glen]

need them to have the hazmat suite be working constantly

[old parrot]

i did it all for the research

[earnest condor]

Those are Ionized, not Gas.

[violet glen]

the nobs I mean :D

[earnest condor]

Hazmat Suit + Ionized Filter works even if you don't have the Gas Mask equipped.

[violet glen]

need to be the nuclear ones tho

[earnest condor]

That is what "Ionized Filter" is...

[tepid spear]

Hi guys I am a new player and just unlocked Conveyer Belts MK3. I am still lesrning and dying to the dumbest things like fall damage or on posion from these plants or so. Does it give any way to dont take damage from these

[old parrot]

gas mask

[earnest condor]

Parachute + Gas Mask

[violet glen]

You never die from fall damage when at max health either

[unkempt blade]

keep your HP topped off and you'll survive falls with a sliver left

[tepid spear]

Ok thanks yall

Nice Community i have to say

[mortal ginkgo]

which is kinda mid game

[old parrot]

resarch fabric basicaly

[tepid spear]

Ok

[violet glen]

Should be doable though, given Mk3 belts are somewht mid game as well already

[stuck canopy]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1493986606804369548

@small crypt turbo is less effort for more power than diluted, but yes i agree not even a fair comparison against rocket fuel which i dont have yet unlocked

@hard ivy diluted takes more machines than turbofuel because blender doesnt exist in phase 2 (with blender its only 55 machines)

@fluid sapphire "you can reprocess diluted fuel later into rocket fuel" yee but there is a blender alternative

[old parrot]

i always max out my mam as fast as i can

all my power is coming from bi products

[tepid spear]

I just automated Steel but the production is like 1500 Meters away and I dont kniw how to get it properly to my Base.

[stuck canopy]

i agree with burmecia here, just go to rocket

[earnest condor]

Tractor.

[violet glen]

Belts or Trucks at that stage

[tepid spear]

Ok I go with Belts ig

[stuck canopy]

sink it

[old parrot]

just make close to baase

[tepid spear]

But no coal is near my base

[old parrot]

where are you

[violet glen]

Trucks can run on coal, so specially to haul stuff to or from a coal using base is something they're good at.

[stuck canopy]

make your base close to coal :D

[earnest condor]

Or, just put steel in the wifi storage uploader since you never have to connect anything to anything in a post-1.0 world 🤷‍♂️

[tepid spear]

Hard to say ig its the starter point in like a plains biome

[old parrot]

there is a couple coal deposits not that far

[tepid spear]

Yeah but those are for coal generators and the Miners are Overclocking

[old parrot]

you should switch it then

[small crypt]

satisfactory plus looks kinda fire

[earnest condor]

Ew.

[old parrot]

i love cluster nobs so much

they are so funny

[small crypt]

i just like how...greggy it seems

[rough shore]

greggy?

oh wait nvm

greg tech new horizons

hard mod in minecraft

[atomic venture]

greg

[stuck canopy]

okey really something aint right with thermal generators in my game

laggy as fuck, rebuild and its fine for a while

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @ornate saffron

[stuck canopy]

maybe DX11 issue?

im on linux, had crashes related to dx12 so yea changed, doesnt seem to crash atleast for now

[fluid sapphire]

it doesnt matter whether you use the packaged or regular version of diluted fuel, the point of using diluted fuel is to get more out of your crude oil, either one lends itself later to extending the line into rocket fuel

the case i am at its core making is, use diluted fuel to get more fuel total, regardless of whatever you do with it afterwards

for my own case i like this chain, using it means not having to re-do anything

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=iffNXryoszyjov0gU9lU

just one extra step

[tepid spear]

hey guys how can I tame a lizard doggo and where do I find one because I killed the last one because i thought he is aggressive

[slim frost]

they are everywhere. you need to put out a berry on the ground and stand still for it to approach you, he eat the berry, then you can pet him and he is tamed.

[tepid spear]

and ADA humbles me because of it

[slim frost]

tip is to take off blade runners, they scare them further away

[tepid spear]

Ok thanks

[slim frost]

its those pale berries. put one on ground and he should come to you, you get the hang of it, you can tame as many as you want,

here is a vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBYpN7YUcX4

[stark ridge]

read some forums and aparently there is no hotkey for blueprints?

[pallid monolith]

Did someone had similiar experience of a train not going through the designated train track even tho other trains doesnt have problem with it ?

i would show you but cannot post here

[slim frost]

you can assign any blueprint to your hotkey, just as you use powerpole, cable, converyor stand or whatever else you have on your regular hotkey bar. alt and mousewheel scroll up and down for more bars if you need more than the 1 you have

[pallid monolith]

posted in questions

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[stark ridge]

I am trying to put many walls and foundations via plueprint. My starter factory was snapped to grid originally, but still seems I am strugiling to allign walls and foundations correctly once I am trying to place them. Am I missing something or are there any tips for this? (tried snapping and changing build mode, but does not seem to work)

[spice timber]

how do i get the converyer life floor holes

[merry sand]

tried nudging the blueprint to sit right?

[merry sand]

in the awesome shop under logistics

[spice timber]

thanks

[stark ridge]

I am not sure what you mean by nudging?

[merry sand]

are you console or pc?

[stark ridge]

h mode and then aling?

[merry sand]

yeah

[stark ridge]

well havent really tried it with blueprints, but I guess it would work. alinging single walls and foundations next each other was so easy I figured I must be doing something wrong 😄

[merry sand]

haha this game gets you like that sometimes

[shy temple]

Trains will always take the shortest route. For being 'blocked' that is where signal type comes in. If it is a block signal, it won't care what is ahead so long as that block is cleared. Path signals will route through the blocks until that path of block ends. It won't start until it has its path reserved

[clear ivy]

if only the hologram could stay locked and i wouldn't have to press h everytime

[faint willow]

You know, I finally spent all that time making a mining building, got both of the miners online, actually feel amazing.
Now I want to do the same thing with a smelting array and I'm stumped. I'm actually stumped because I'm not quite sure what I want to do with it.

It's like I burned all my creative juice on making that one building.

[tall lantern]

pick an end product, work backwards

no point making something just for the sake of it (unless "because I want to" is the reason in the first place)

[faint willow]

I finally hit level 3 logistics too, meaning I can push out a lot of ore really quickly.

[faint willow]

Honestly? That's kinda been my gameplan. Something about the aesthetics of it all is overriding some of the practicality. It's why I got the mod to let me get rid of some of the rocks.

Make it look good, ya know?

[tall lantern]

you can do both useful and aesthetic though

[hollow mountain]

to the person who decided to not add any kind of monster in the water i wish the other side of your pillow is cold and you have a great night sleep

[tall lantern]

"I'm gonna build a motor factory cus I need motors, and make it look sweet" vs "I'm gonna build a smelting array because...?, and make it look sweet"

[shy temple]

Yup, I do a combined one. Nothing wrong with making surplus. Only annoying if you do it and then nothing can do with it.

Myself, plan for a train and truck depot. Go to work on making components that make use of it. I am assuming it is an iron smelter?

Or bring in raw resources into one big smelting plant to output an array of common base components of plates, wires, pipes and steel. Four things used extensively and in regular construction.

[crisp vine]

Can someone point me to a website or a reddit post explaing how the oil extraction works? never actually made it this far without getting sucked into a playthrough and I'm a little lost as I require plastic and rubber for all my tier upgrades 😭

[west jackal]

wdym how it works?

you put an oil extractor on an oil node, and it produces oil

also reddit rarely has accurate info, if you need info ask specific questions and we can answer them

[crisp vine]

I don't mean like that I mean as in how a refiner works, I don't have the materials on hand to actually make one so I can start planning a design / layout that would be most efficient and outright pretty for me

USBEEF

[west jackal]

they take oil in... they make products

[crisp vine]

oh so literally just water but oil and more by-products

[west jackal]

in example. plastic takes crude, makes plastic and heavy oil residue

[frozen ingot]

sort out the mats you need for making refineries (automate those parts!)

then just experiment nearby an oil node, you'll figure it out

[west jackal]

you can then use that residue for other things, such as diluted fuel alt, or the standard poopy fuel recipe

[crisp vine]

(I GOT SUCKED INTO MAKING A PRETTY FACTORY IT MUST GROW I KNOW)

[shy temple]

Refineries are the first producer you have with byproducts. So most things are two items in and one out, or two items out and one in. Can be combo if liquid and solid.

Be sure to look at the product to see, that will help layout.

[frozen ingot]

usually first thing after unlocking oil i set up a very simple system so i at least have one extractor and a few refineries making rubber and plastic, and got depots setup etc

[shy temple]

The most simple setup has the three basics. Fuel, plastic and rubber direct from crude. So you set up a refinery to use your crude in what ever mix of product you want out.

Then you will need a second smaller set of refiners to process the byproducts.

A different input, but can get your choice of what to make with the byproduct.

Early refineries are quite simple, just plan for space. I find that a 1.5 x 3 tile space per refinery is a nice base, plus whatever space you want for your conveyors and pipes

[crisp vine]

Oh sweet thank you guys, this makes life a lot easier

It just looks like I need to do the usual factory planning + find the alt recepies to make my life 20x easier and not stress over stupid shit so I can yet again make a pretty factory

[shy temple]

Also remember, if your numbers are not working out quite right, you can throttle down production a little to balance.

[crisp vine]

Yea had to learn that with my first playthrough, luckly got a neat tool on steam to assit with that (quit without even getting to phase 2 because I was too head deep into a "pretty project"

[shy temple]

Alts for petroleum add complexity to get more output. Trying to work with alt recipes right off the start could be overwhelming depending on how comfortable you are with complex factory systems.

[exotic frigate]

I figured out the theoretical maximum aluminum output for all the nodes on the map

[cold berry]

Trying to make the best modular 3x3 reinforced plate maker I can. It'll have to use steel screws to keep up with screw demands, but that's easy. The real bear is the plates I need. It'll use 1 assembler, 3 constructors.

[shy temple]

For initial plastic, rubber and fuel, you can get a fair bit off of a single 120/min well to get things going.

Two plastic, two rubber refineries, then convert the resin into fuel to power it. Will be plenty to get other stuff going.

err, not resin, heavy residue

[exotic frigate]

12300/m of bauxite with mk3 miners at 250%. Making 24600 scrap/m, needing only 4920/m of petroleum coke (1250 oil/m)

[crisp vine]

alt recepie required for that or nah?

[shy temple]

Nope.

[frozen ingot]

if you scan a HDD, then wait until you've unlocked more tiers, and use your rescan for that HDD, will it work for the new unlocked tiers (in terms of the prerequisite tier needed for a particular alt recipe to be offered)?

[crisp vine]

Once again thank you guys, will take this and run into the wind with it!

[shy temple]

The initial no recipes have two steps.

First is processing crude to get plastic and rubber which gives heavy residue byproduct

Crude to fuel gives resin byproduct

Then you can process in a second refinery the byproducts into fuel/plastic/rubber

That is about the most complexity of it.

[crisp vine]

Huh it really is that easy then, why do so many people complain about this? if you have TOO much by-product there is something called a sink for a reason...... I mean you can never have too much of 1 item though

[shy temple]

The hard drive alts will give more options of what to do with crude oil and the products within it. Giving more steps, but can give more yields with more inputs. Plus alternates can unlock new things you can do with the refinery

[shy temple]

Exactly. Set up right and you can change between rubber and plastic and fuel as needed depending on surplus and sink the byproduct. Fuel byproduct you can send to a generator to burn off. The solids to a sink

Or what I am doing, I am bottling up the fuel as well to be used for my trucks.

[crisp vine]

Time to slap some nightcore on, revamp my production line rq for the construction requirements and then continue hard drive hunting + factory designing lets see what pretty stuff I can do this time

[shy temple]

I actually have that issue that Beefalo mentioned with my new refinery. But for a sillier reason.

I forgot a certain compacted coal import for a certain alternate recipe....

[west jackal]

shouldnt be making fuel from crude 😉

[crisp vine]

I most likely will be packaging a good 90% of stuff to move else where for another project or a more central production system / separated

[exotic frigate]

I make fuel from heavy oil residue right now, and I use the leftover resin to make my plastic and rubber. I then sink the overflow of resin

[shy temple]

So it sort of stopped. But that process I am doing has three stages of refining plus the usage of other processes too.

[rough shore]

wha

[west jackal]

fuel should only be made from HOR via the diluted fuel alt

[exotic frigate]

My fuel generation is my oil processing

[west jackal]

if you disagree you are not a productive pioneer 😛

[shy temple]

Yup, is what I do now. Only early on I made it from crude when I needed fuel for power more than I needed the other solid goods.

[rough shore]

ok i thought we meant no crude at all i was confused for a sec

[crisp vine]

Circuit boards something I should be worried about just yet? or am I free to leave them be temporarily?

[west jackal]

nono, you use the HOR alt and the diluted packaged fuel (if you are t5) to make fuuel

[exotic frigate]

I only didn't do that because I didnt know that was more efficient. I plan on a full redesign soon

[west jackal]

circuit boards are only ever used to make other items

other than a couple researchs in the mam

[crisp vine]

Oh so just continue with fuel and shit first then focus on making them for mam research

makes sense really

[west jackal]

well you should automate computers whenever you can

[exotic frigate]

Some of the later items they go into are used for buildings but other than that, its not a huge deal to have a stockpile

[shy temple]

Once you get that Dylan of course. More power per unit of crude by a fair bit. But when you unlock refining, if you dont have that alternate nor got it in the hard drives, one does what they must do. My first refinery doesnt have any diluted fuel in it.

[crisp vine]

Sweet

[shy temple]

But I also was only using half of the available crude when I set it up. I brought crude elsewhere and did processing there though.

[west jackal]

it takes like 5 minutes to get a couple hard drives. its two alts you unlock as soon as you get packager unlocked which is easy. i use coal untill i get there. its a waste of time to build a factory that can be more than doubled after 30 minutes for the drives to cook

[shy temple]

If RNG is in your favor or one save scums

[west jackal]

?

[shy temple]

Hard drive RNG. I had to get like 25 hard drives before I found it.'

[exotic frigate]

I find it shocking that you need so little oil to process every single bit of bauxite you can possibly pull out of the ground

[west jackal]

just have hard drives sitting in library with rescans (one option) or leave the ones you dont care about in there, drasitcally limits the pool

[west jackal]

you talking about electrode alt?

because oil isnt required lol.

to be fair, i use electrode alt

[exotic frigate]

Sloppy alumina, into electrode

Electrode needs petroleum coke

[west jackal]

yes i do sloppy electrode pure

[shy temple]

Plus if you don't know that blueprint exists. I don't like to spoiler play for people and let them discover alts and stuff so I don't mention in detail.

[west jackal]

it uses shockingly little crude, i agree

[exotic frigate]

Only one of the oil wells needs to be tapped to have enough oil to do every bit of it

[shy temple]

Plus I dislike the concept of 'you must do this' in gameplay. Nah, can start and do it all without the alternates, they just add more to the game. There is so much oil on map as it is. Only need half of one oil field for the whole tier without any hard drives.

[exotic frigate]

And by well I mean the well extractors, not the oil node

[west jackal]

dude chill. I was teasing about it.

ALSO

im using all the crude in the world.

so there is not enough crude imo

[small crypt]

literally how

[west jackal]

im t9...

[small crypt]

and?

[west jackal]

and im using all of it

[exotic frigate]

Probably has very high ambitions with output

[west jackal]

or atleast im planning on it. one of the factories is still offline

[shy temple]

I guess it depends on your end goal scope and how much you use spicy and other recipes. I tapped a second field purely to make fuel so I can send fuel trains around for power plants.

[west jackal]

well i dont have any "fuel" plants anymore, i have further processed it to reduce the ammount of crude required for the power production. which has led to me planning out the consumption of all the nitrogen/sulfur

[shy temple]

Yup! A different way of playing.

[west jackal]

nitrogen sulfur bauxite sam and crude are the limiting factors

[shy temple]

My friend finished the game with only using one oil field... Guy is very lean manufacturing

[west jackal]

again. take a joke. i was teasing with the diluted required thing. although i dont know anyone that wants to optimize that doesnt use it.

[shy temple]

Oh for sure. It is like the 'pure recipes'

[west jackal]

that is ridiculous. unless you leave the game on overnight then youll never get enough items

[shy temple]

That is what he did!

[west jackal]

geez

[shy temple]

Would set up in the evening. Then let it run afk.

[west jackal]

i could never play that way

[shy temple]

Next day, hop on, repurpose the production stuff, reroute the containers to make the next stuff.

His end game entirely could fit in my train station.

[exotic frigate]

I dont know where the joke is

[west jackal]

the joke was that i was being sarcastic when i said that the only right way of doing fuel was diluted fuel alt with heavy residue alt

[shy temple]

The joke was the must have it comment I believe. One doesnt need it, but it is very very nice indeed.

[west jackal]

there are clearly many ways of doing everything in this game.

[shy temple]

When game came out, there was a culture of that first thing any new player must do is go out and get all the hard drives for alternates.

[west jackal]

nah (speaking as someone who played back in 0.1) i didnt get many alts at all. just save scummed drives

[exotic frigate]

I just unlock the recipes in SCIM

[shy temple]

It was a bit too elitist and stopped hanging out here, I know I can overtype a bit, I like to ramble and have a very fast typing speed.

[west jackal]

to me, that is cheating, but to each their own

[exotic frigate]

I dont like exploring

[west jackal]

thats your decision to make

i think it can also make the game overwhelming to new players if they all did that

[shy temple]

It is what I love about my return to the community. The way so many of you embrace the have fun and do it your way

[west jackal]

true. i just like being fuh see shush, its fun. its all in jest though, generally im teasing, like with the fuel but not always

[polar tapir]

why i dont have the saved folder in the factorygame folder?

[shy temple]

A bit of gamer ptsd on my end. XD

[lean fossil]

in satisfactory modeller what does the "pressurizer" do

[shy temple]

#screenshots message Glorious Rigatoni @mint coral

[mint coral]

👍

[ebon marten]

i used too, not sure what happened to it tbh. i even have the hidden folders showing

[empty bridge]

hi all. is there any way to kill those things that spew out green smoke?

[ebon marten]

blow them up

[empty bridge]

ok. thanks.

need to mine SAM and they are in the way and tend to kill me quick

[next ivy]

if you mean the ones in grassy fields then :skill issue

[empty bridge]

yes, I do

which skill is an issue?

[stark ridge]

is there some option to always sprint? (or a togle sprint)

[ebon marten]

in the settings

[stark ridge]

ah it was controls. Too many settings for me it seems

I wish there was "search from any setting menu" kinda search even though it is pretty good in general that there is any seach at all

[warm sun]

You just need nobelisks and or gas mask

[ebon marten]

idk if i need to reinstall satisfactory in order for the game to create the save game folder, mine isnt showing up and ive told it to show the hidden folders

[next ivy]

tried making a new savegame ?

[ebon marten]

yeah, idk if its due to the steam cloud thingy but ive turned that off and im backing up the files

just read the promt that came up, its pointless

[next ivy]

and you have already found the "factorygame" folder

[ebon marten]

yes its not difficult to find it, steam puts you straight into the satisfactory folder but i do it the hard way and go through all the folders myself like i usually do with all the other games i have

[next ivy]

you can access that folder from steam ?

[ebon marten]

yes, you just need to press browse local files

[next ivy]

the one in appdata

not the one in steam

[ebon marten]

its the same folder

[next ivy]

is it tho

cant see no savegames in the steam one

neither can you apparently
but i do see them in the appdata folder

%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames

[neat anvil]

Lights really suck, is there any alternative to a light source that isn’t massive?

[rich parrot]

Signs create a small amount of light.

[rough shore]

very terrible light

light that makes u wanna puke like u just saw some screws

[neat anvil]

Yea I’ve tried whatever you want to light up has to be a meter away for it to do anything

[shy temple]

It is a frustration for me as well that there are no smaller wall lights, like power post sized

[rough shore]

make power poles emit light frfr

[shy temple]

Light power poles would be a god tier

[neat anvil]

I would use the ceiling lights but the devs decided it be cool to not add customization to probably one of the most useful ones

[rich parrot]

You could nudge streetlights into foundations to create smaller wall lights.

If you have foundation pillars in your factory.

[hollow mountain]

i have a machine consuming 550mw... i understand now why people want big generator

[smoky forge]

yes yes

[shy temple]

customise how do you mean?

[neat anvil]

Where I’m building, the only late now would work is the ceiling light, and that thing is bright like the sun

[shy temple]

Oh, you can customize that. Just not at the light.

[neat anvil]

Street lights and flood lights are customizable

[shy temple]

There is the light control panel for all of those.

roof lights are the same.

[tame bobcat]

guys if my max consumption is at the same right as my power production do i get sliiiightly worried yet or do i wait until the orange line reaches it too

[shy temple]

Though what can happen is that if you build them after, they won't take use of the light settings and will emit full power until you reset them by changing something on the light control panel.

[tame bobcat]

cuz my production is ~16000MW and max consumption is also about ~160000MW but im only currently using 7000MW apparently

[smoky forge]

you are fine for the next couple of hours, just keep it in mind

[tame bobcat]

my only worry is if too many machines suddenly flick on, but i do have priority power switches in place already

[shy temple]

depending on how you have set up and why your consumption is not at max, you are fine.

[smoky forge]

then you are always fine

[shy temple]

Cause it is if you are running everything 100% all the time will it be that.

[smoky forge]

priority switches are god lvl comfort

[tame bobcat]

so worse comes to worse my unneeded factories flick off first

[tame bobcat]

oh alright bet lol

[hollow mountain]

IM DONE WITH PHASE 3

[neat anvil]

What the heck that’s so stupid, thanks a lot

[hollow mountain]

lets go tier 7

[neat anvil]

I would’ve never found that out because it seems so stupid

[fluid sapphire]

you are not going to believe this, but the traffic jam situation did solve itself

[smoky forge]

a tip, place a priority switch leaving your power plant, then at worst case all your machines get shut down but your power grid stays intact

[tame bobcat]

thats a good idea didnt think about that, thanks

[smoky forge]

trains?

yeah that never solves itselfe

only temporarly

[fluid sapphire]

oh but it did

[smoky forge]

explain situation

[shy temple]

It is nice because it helps you get them all the same color. It is annoying though initially until you can get them unlocked. I was accepting being blinded until I could make them. I didn't want to edit every street light either.

[tame bobcat]

speaking of trains do yall ever have that weird issue with block signals where sometimes it says “signal loops into itself”

[neat anvil]

I wonder if the devs just overlooked it, or if they just felt mean and wanted to overcomplicate something

[tame bobcat]

am i doing smth wrong for this to keep showing up

[fluid sapphire]

it wasnt a real "jam" as such, just an intersection where a train had to wait until the previous one leaves the station its trying to enter - no waiting bay, so its waiting on the main line, it was set up with the future in mind, more potential for product import than was being used - i upped the usage finally, so the train spends less time waiting to the point where its a non issue, maybe 20-30 seconds of waiting

its not long enough to cause any problems

[rich parrot]

IIRC, you can copy-paste light settings from light to light.

[shy temple]

Yeah, that is when the train route goes out, but then that outbound conflicts. Commonly with a loop

[shy temple]

I had a lot of lights... XD

That reminds me. I need to set the light in my refinery

[crisp vine]

How long will I need smart plating for? I wish to eventually remove it from my production line but I don't entierly know when it will be a possibility

Okay so maybe I just keep that as a permanent addition

[polar tapir]

is the tractor and the track station good for transporting items?

[smoky forge]

you will always need every part you will ever automate

becasue it is needed to automate the next part

[fluid sapphire]

@smoky forge #screenshots message

it used to wait longer, supply usage went from 1350 to 1500 per minute

but i also didnt have any other traffic going through here in that direction previously

even with the new traffic 1 minute of waiting is a complete non-issue

with heavy traffic I agree

currently its 2 other trains going that way, even if i had 3-8 ish would still be OK

[smoky forge]

ye ye

[fluid sapphire]

still considering if i can fit something in here

but seeing as its non-critical it probably goes onto the task backlog

waaay too much stuff to do xd

[faint willow]

do buildings prevent spawning animals? or is it just foundations?

[fluid sapphire]

think its powered buildings

[slim frost]

not sure foundations do either; #screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

foundations definitely dont

[faint willow]

roger dodger

nothing a swift kick in the ass from the FICSIT Forget-Me-Stick can't solve

[neat plank]

TFW you cba to run a long belt so you just setup a manifold of dimensional depots and hand load your machine occasionally.

[faint willow]

not me running iron up the side of a wall with belt elevators just so i can make steel production somewhat clean-looking

[fluid sapphire]

elevator parts strat

[neat plank]

Me omw to play Cursed Satisfactory.

Everything is pretty. Nothing is automated.

[polar tapir]

is the tractor and the track station good for transporting items?

[exotic frigate]

Should do glass floors and bleachers

[faint willow]

literally beat me to the punch

[neat plank]

Glass floors are sick. I pointlessly made a logistics floor just to put a glass floor above it.

[faint willow]

that's popcorn worthy right there

[shy temple]

I use them a fair bit. It helps with removing the need to run long conveyors and can consolidate multiple distant resources together.

[neat plank]

I didn't even need a logistics floor.

I just made it for the glass.

[shy temple]

With 1.1, the routing can take some effort to get used to with how they connect to stations. 1.2 tractors will definitely be a lot more viable.

[neat plank]

Manifold to Dimensional Depot. Bribe nephew to hand load machines.

The people yearn for the mines.

[shy temple]

XD I totally would if I was a youtuber. Get friends to join and shovel into machine containers like the boiler room on some old steam ship

[faint willow]

go the extra mile, get all of them to start singing worker songs like that song from the opening of frozen 2

[abstract heron]

Hi chat

[shy temple]

Guaranteed 1m view clickbait. "I suck at factories so I automated by forcing my friends to do it"

[faint willow]

i could be blackout drunk and think of at least five names off-rip that have content like that

[shy temple]

All vehicles manually driven. All containers manually loaded.

[slim frost]

that animal was in there when i builded around him.. im not sure if he ever leave, but the doggies are trapped

[neat plank]

https://youtu.be/mPTCq3LiZSE?si=lm46E8gxSF2AvUnc

This anthem. Good for work.

[slim frost]

haha, yeah

[neat plank]

I suck at factories so I used auto hot key to record myself loading machines.

[shy temple]

Perfect! Imagine 20 people down there taking out from containers to put into the power plant directly.

[faint willow]

a fellow warframe enjoyer. chad behavior.
i built this most recent building of mine using the "john henry" song from that old disney shorts movie

[neat plank]

You laugh but I am this close to dimensional depoting Coal to my starter factory. For Phase 2.

[faint willow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp-pIxPBsr0 this one

[neat plank]

I'm just collecting enough Mercer Spheres.

[neat plank]

Not in a long time but it had good music.

[polar tapir]

so they are better than conveyrs when im transporting multiple items from afar

[neat plank]

My main problem is I'm Rocky Desert and I'm using the easy Coal for a power plant. And I CBA setting up a Steel factory near the Crater lakes.

[stuck canopy]

which wiki is better? fandom or gg?

[rough shore]

i mean u can technically use conveyors for everything the throughput would be teh same

[shy temple]

Yeah, I do that to kickstart too. I use a biofuel to run an unpacker that feeds a fuel generator that can then online all the water pumps and mines to get the full coal going quick vs one at a time.

a container of fuel to keep it going long enough

[neat plank]

Can't wait for MK2 Miners and I can just double my Coal plant size.

[shy temple]

be sure to have an output container to collect the empties. I learned the hard way

[rough shore]

just remember conveyor throughput limit

[stuck canopy]

umh does smart mod and wiki use different measurements?

[neat plank]

Yeah MK3 is 240 and MK2 on Pure is 240?

[rough shore]

yeah

[neat plank]

I dunno. I've not slept well.

[rough shore]

well mk3 is 270 but yk

[neat plank]

So split the 240 into 16 Dimensionals.

[slim frost]

on pure? it is more.. isnt it 1200 on full boost on power shards with mk3?

[neat plank]

For maximum throughput.

Of coal into my hands.

For shoveling.

[rough shore]

we are talking mk2 miner unclocked

[west jackal]

wtf 240 into 16 dimensionals??

i must have missed something lol

[shy temple]

... I am going down the dark side on my next playthrough. I am totally going to use shards... collect all the slugs

[white dawn]

Slug juice makes the world go 'round

[shy temple]

no! #sluglife

But yeah, there are times where I want to just collect them all and really power up my build. I really do take a lot longer to progress than most because of how I like to play

Particularly on extractors, especially in early play.

[polar tapir]

placing multiple walls at once is a mod or an upgrade?

[neat plank]

How else do I get the Coal.home?

[white dawn]

You can zoop walls in vanilla, yes, up to 10 at a time. Hit R to change build modes on PC

If you're seeing someone do more than a "line" of 10 then they may be using a mod like "Smart" or "Infinite Zoop" or whatever

[shy temple]

Default game. On keyboard, it is R key to change placement time. You want to 'zoop' placement methods which lets you drag horizontal or vertical

[elfin smelt]

what you are describing is either zoop or a blueprint

[polar tapir]

ok thx

[shy temple]

Foundations require selecting vertical not zoop for columns

[white dawn]

Oh, or blueprint, yeah. :D Can do a big chunk at a time with blueprints.

[polar tapir]

thx

[shy temple]

Most all placeables have different placement types. Pipes and conveyors have lots of options

as do certain architectural unlocks

[earnest condor]

Curve Zoop mode when? 😏

[shy temple]

I know! I really want foundations that can be laid out like a conveyor or rail line.

[west jackal]

first off, 240/min doesnt need 16 dimensions? but also why do you need 240/min for personal use?

[neat plank]

The amount of work to curve things is too high. So my factory is Brutalist cube.

[west jackal]

i mean it doesnt matter if you need it, so long as you want it. just curious the reason

[lean fossil]

#screenshots message

[neat plank]

To load my foundries.

[lean fossil]

good blueprint or no

[shy temple]

That is my business. Just know I need it!

[empty bridge]

Does anyone know whether the developer plans any major new versions in the future?

[earnest condor]

The only thing about it that hurts me, personally, is you have the output on the far right instead of from the center 🙁

[small crypt]

1.2 is soon

[west jackal]

personally i would make the steel near the coal/iron and then load the steel outputs into dimensionals

[earnest condor]

1.2 is a major new version in the near future.

[lean fossil]

well yes I'm gonna loop it again to make 2000 wires

[neat plank]

Thsts what I'm doing rn.

But I want to move it.

[small crypt]

make your batteries near the ocean so you dont have to walk as far to throw them in

[earnest condor]

You need 2,000 Wire?
May I suggest using Caterium Wire to drastically reduce building count?

[shy temple]

My only beef is with the constructor models how the arms clip each other, so i stagger them when close like that... XD

[west jackal]

trucks? tractors? trains? anything other than manually feeding foundaries

[empty bridge]

Ah. Thought it was just a few tweaks and rain

[neat plank]

Maybe later.

[earnest condor]

My favorite part of Sequencer is that it automatically spaces the Constructors by 1m due to how wide the Assembler is 😄

[west jackal]

it isnt a major update.. its qol and a few small things like better vehicle pathing

and respawn porta potty

[earnest condor]

Complete overhaul of trucking system = "small update"?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[west jackal]

yea..

[neat plank]

If you dont use trucks it certainly is.

[west jackal]

when trucks are easily outclassed by trains and drones? absolutely

[violet glen]

#screenshots message that's the water setup from earlier. 5x120 water in, 5x100 consumption. But it's not making it all up there in time.

[earnest condor]

Oh boy...

[west jackal]

even with the new pathing (ive dabbled in 1.2) i still prefer trains and drones because they have higher throughput and are more reliable

AGAIN NOT SAYING YOU CANT USE THEM

just that it certainly is not a big update

[white dawn]

The only publicly-released plans is that they intend to keep on releasing updates along the lines of v1.1, v1.2, for awhile. They do internally know what they want their long-term plans to be, but AFAIK they haven't actually released any info about that

[west jackal]

itll make early game nicer though, thats for sure

[earnest condor]

So let's do the math here for "completely outclassed" compared to trains.

Trucks have:

• Higher throughput potential.
• Lower fuel cost.
• Lower infrastructure cost.

Yes... winning in 3 different categories == "completely outclassed." 👍

[lean fossil]

i feel like something is wrong with my game why are my hands so close together

my fov multiplier thing is at 0 and my normal fov is at 90

[west jackal]

youre crazy if you think trucks have lower fuel cost than trains?

[neat plank]

Okay but like Trains are dank af.

[west jackal]

also

Trains >>>>>>

[earnest condor]

Do the math. Get back to me 👍 Trucks win easily in fuel pricing.

[west jackal]

no.

[earnest condor]

If you like trains because you feel they are cooler, that is totally fine.
But they are not objectively better.

[west jackal]

they are objectively better though.

[exotic frigate]

Trains just run off power. Just make more power, problem solved :3

[earnest condor]

So you just enjoy lying to yourself 👍

[west jackal]

not only are they easier to fuel, they are way more reliable?

even in 1.2 trains are still more reliable than trucks

[earnest condor]

Factually incorrect, but you do you.

[west jackal]

trucks are better now, definately viable early game. but i dont see any possible way id be using trucks to haul items across the map.

[exotic frigate]

I feel the the factual correctness is.. not a big deal here

[earnest condor]

The baseline disagreement is factual correctness of trains "completely outclassing" trucks.

[exotic frigate]

Thats dependant on so many factors it is impossible for one to come out on top

Everyone's situation is different

[earnest condor]

Which would make it factually incorrect that one "completely outclasses" -- see how it matters?

[exotic frigate]

I could use either trucks or trains for my aluminum and all thatd change is the setup

[earnest condor]

My argument is that neither is better.
Their argument is that trains are better.

[west jackal]

bullshit. your argument is that trucks are better and that 1.2 is a major update because they fixed trucks. Im glad that trucks are better, like i said, itll help early game. but it is not a major update when trains (AND drones) are typically more useful than trucks late game.

[lapis trail]

Wen 1.2 main branch update

[west jackal]

we dont know. likely in a couple months (from previous update trends) but nothing confirmed as of yet

[exotic frigate]

No idea

[earnest condor]

That is not what I said at all...

[west jackal]

yes it is.

you need to work on your written comprehension if you think it is.

[earnest condor]

Quote where I said "trucks are better". I will wait.

[west jackal]

never said you stated it. just said that you were saying it. there is a difference

[leaden turret]

eventually

[earnest condor]

Yes, there is you looking at what I said and making the active choice to think "he doesn't mean that, he means something he did not say."

So that's.. reading comprehension on your part 🤷‍♂️

[leaden turret]

reminder: XKCD-386ing is not condusive to a healthy community

[earnest condor]

Noted. Moving on. Thank you for the reminder 💛

[west jackal]

appreciated that because you were right, the argument was stupid from the beginning (to be clear, not calling them stupid, just saying it wasnt worth arguing over)

[exotic frigate]

Anyway, anyone know a good use for 24000 aluminum scrap per minute?

[west jackal]

pure ingot recipe -> 12000 ingots

:P

[exotic frigate]

Omg so true

[west jackal]

although i say that, im out of aluminum in my world

[exotic frigate]

Without sloops, 12000 ingots is the limit

[normal orbit]

12300*

tho you can use silica to make it into 16k-ish

[west jackal]

i am using ~2000 of it for fused modular frames (then slooping all the outputs so i make around 77.5 fmf/min) and then something like 4 or 5k ingots/min for nuclear

[quiet rivet]

Quick question, do manifolds only work if the input is greater than the output?

[west jackal]

then the rest of the ingots go to things like rcu for super computers, pressure cubes, turbo motors etc

[west jackal]

no, as long as input = output

[quiet rivet]

ah perfect

[west jackal]

typically you have manifolds where the input equals the output that way there is no buildup. if your input is greater than output, you can have a smart splitter for overflow to go somewhere else though 🙂

[exotic frigate]

With everything slooped (~800 somersloops), you could theoretically get 1,640 aluminum ingots/s

Or 98400/m

[quiet rivet]

i havent used smart splitters. I've got the recipe unlocked but i havent found a need for them yet

[exotic frigate]

Overflow for waste products that youre also using for other things

[west jackal]

There is only 100 ish sloops tho...

[exotic frigate]

Like resin

[exotic frigate]

Yup

[earnest condor]

Sorting overflow to the Sink after your storage fills is the first primary use. So that excess gets converted to coupons.

[tepid spear]

I find it kinda funny how all of you are doing like this crazy stuff and I cant even built something nice because I build automatet Reinforced Plates, I am happy because I just unlocked Coal Generators, go to the discord and see nuclear power plants, trains drones wtf. And I already have like 30 hours playing any tips for me a beginner?

[earnest condor]

Just keep playing. You only get the first experience one time.

[tepid spear]

I know but I build something, grind like crazy and then recognize i didnt need it and die to a toxic plant

[earnest condor]

What did you build that you didn't need?

[tepid spear]

Screws lamo I have like 500 prr Minute

But its only needed that few

[earnest condor]

You can use those in multiple recipes.

Like when you get to Phase 3, one of the more complex parts needs 240/min input at a baseline.

[tepid spear]

My friend sayd they are important because he plays a lot Satisfactory plus

[earnest condor]

....

[small crypt]

s+ has vastly different recipes

[tepid spear]

But he also said: MK 2 is ok but its hard MK 3 is still ok. Grind a houndred hours, then 200 die becuase of nuclear Waste repeat and learn

Thanks guys

[earnest condor]

I would stop listening to this "friend."

[tepid spear]

W Community

Yeah but he is nice just trolling

But he said that the MAM is vera important

[earnest condor]

If he makes you happy, I am glad.
I just personally... if someone trolled me on something I genuinely enjoyed, I would no longer be friends with them 🤷‍♂️

[earnest condor]

Certain things in the MAM will make your life much easier, yes.

[tepid spear]

Nice but he is an advenced player and like builds things early I cant Imagine of. But I am grinding the AWESOME shop

[exotic frigate]

You only "need" what you need. Nobody can tell you want you need. Only you can tell

[tepid spear]

Found 20 Motors all invested in 17 Tickets

[exotic frigate]

Nice

I honestly wish the mam stuff and the awesome shop items should just be unlocked in the milestones. I havnt found a mod for that :(

[tepid spear]

I really need smart plating for phase 2 from space elevator. Can someone just say a little like plan for it I am struggling and I have to do some Electricity things

[small crypt]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[tepid spear]

Yeah that would be nice

Interesting

[exotic frigate]

Factoriolab has a satisfactory section. You can select what you want to make and how much, and then look at the recipes from there

[tepid spear]

Ok I‘ll look thanks yall

[exotic frigate]

Np

[west jackal]

Why so many sloops?

Its what 84 blenders if you do instant scrap (also eliminates waste water issue) max oc and slooped is 136 sloops for the scrap, not sure how many sloops for the ingots tho?

But if youre slooping scrap you definitely want to use instant scrap, way simpler for slooping (less sloops too)

[fluid sapphire]

at 136 you\re already cheating for sloops, does it matter at that point

[royal mortar]

daisy chaining is good and everything, but some machines are not exactly designed for this? assemblers are even worse. #screenshots message

[shy temple]

It is unfortunate, but is something I can live with. I will do my old school overhead power bars

[white dawn]

You can "roll your own" with blueprints, fwiw

Place machine in blueprinter -> use beams-or-whatever to embed a power socket somewhere -> delete all helper beams -> hook the machine to the socket -> save blueprint -> profit

Some folks have been daisychaining without mods for years. :P

Now you're thinking with Blueprints!™

[exotic frigate]

To process the sheer quantity of scrap, you need, ~600 smelters all slooped and at 250%

[royal mortar]

i figured. the resources had been assigned for the fluid truck i guess.

[floral sparrow]

What is your favourite biome aesthetically?

[west jackal]

Yes and no, its also more about ease of building. But I more meant its easier for slooping reasons to use instant scrap. No waste and more sloop efficient overall

[west jackal]

If youre slooping youd probably not use smelters alt

[west jackal]

Without sloops you can gain around 30% more ingots by adding silica

[tepid spear]

Ive got a question… at which level of the space elevator is the jetpack?

Or upgrade

[earnest condor]

Phase 3.

[tepid spear]

Ok

[earnest condor]

Only way to get it earlier is to encounter Johnny.

[floral sparrow]

The parachute served me well before unlocking it

[tepid spear]

And how do i get the parachute?

MAM?

[earnest condor]

Pick up a blue mushroom.

Then go to the MAM.

[tepid spear]

Ohhhh ok

[floral sparrow]

It's in the Mycelia tree after fabric

[west jackal]

Is that what that idiot is called

[earnest condor]

Ouch?

[exotic frigate]

The alt recipe does give more, but to consume the max amount of bauxite, you need over a thousand machines making aluminum ingots

[west jackal]

Ive never found him before getting a jetpack myself. But he always manages to f me up

[west jackal]

The smelter is an alt recipe. It gives less

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, I don't think I've ever actually survived an encounter with him. I've been lucky twice though with his spawn!

[west jackal]

The standard ingot recipe gives more per scrap

[tepid spear]

Ok

[floral sparrow]

How rare is Johnny? I haven't had the pleasure of making his acquaintance yet

[exotic frigate]

And so you need more machines to consume the same amount of bauxite

[white dawn]

Each time an Alpha Hog spawns, there's a 1 in 1,000 chance for it to be Johnny instead

[floral sparrow]

I see other sources saying it replaces a random hog on the map on world load

[west jackal]

The base recipe uses more scrap/min

So less machines

Assuming you arent slooping silica

[white dawn]

Other sources are not going to be, in aggregate, more accurate than https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Alpha_Hog#Jetpack_Hog :)

[exotic frigate]

Im figuring out the theoretical maximum aluminum output. Im putting sloops and shards in everything, using mk3 miners, and consuming as much bauxite as possible

[west jackal]

Nether slooping instant scrap blender would make less than slooping both refiners in sloppy electrode i think. You are probably right.

I was thinking how much nicer it would be to build thr slooped blenders instead

[exotic frigate]

Ok I made an error, I didnt shard the aluminum ingot plants

Its still ~430 foundries each with 2 sloops

[feral vector]

hmmm is it bad to dismantle a blueprint designer without clearing out it's storage? I think I had no room and didn't get a dismantle crate

ah nvm I think I found it, it was just in a weird spot

[cursive topaz]

Can someone explain to me how fluid in a container with a shutoff valve just after , and the valve is closed. How can the fluid drain if there is no where for it to go

[clear aspen]

Hello yall

[leaden turret]

it goes out the way it comes in

[cursive topaz]

That’s not how fluid works

[leaden turret]

fluid is a cat.
fluid goes where it wants.

if the way in is open, the way in is a way out

[cursive topaz]

I guess that’s true

I kinda really need pipeline mk2 im at full tilt of my water production and usage and its still not enough through out

[earnest condor]

Never think about pipes in terms of belts.

[hollow mountain]

gguys when i get iodine infused filter to i still need gas filter on me?

[white dawn]

Yes, but you can use both at the same time. The Gas Mask is a head accessory, whereas the Hazmat Suit is a body accessory

[hollow mountain]

thats 2 inventory space :''(

[white dawn]

True, though with Dimensional Depot, inventory space is far less of a constraint than it used to be

[hollow mountain]

yeah that thing is a life saver

[gilded roost]

Am i tripping or is there a way to bind a beam with a finish (caterium ect) to the hotbar? i think i forgot it

[white dawn]

If you do want to save on inventory slots anyway, of course, neither is really necessary regardless. In general, environmental damage like that is easy to avoid or just facetank w/ inhalers. :)

I'd definitely recommend Iodine filters when working with nuclear power (or nuke nobelisk production), but apart from that you can do quite well completely free 'n' easy

[white dawn]

Not exactly -- you can set any material/swatch to be the "default" for some general classes of buildable, which would let you place it down by default

Can't be put in the hotbar explicitly, though

Right-click in the customizer to set those defaults

[gilded roost]

ok so i WAS tripping. my memory was making stuff up

[south lion]

guys this fat elephant keeps walkin on my foundations. im boutta make a whole ammo factory just for this guy

[white dawn]

It can be a bit confusing, since the "basic" foundation/wall/etc types can be hotbar'd

[white dawn]

Beans be inspectin' factories, indeed. :)

[south lion]

hate em so much

i bet ada sent them

[leaden turret]

-# > beans, beans, the magical fruit, the more you automeet the more you oughta shoot

[late pumice]

when will Retaliate mode ever get fixed?

Right now it’s only those flying crabs

[analog citrus]

hello i am new i am encountring an error about the electricity

i cant plug de lines beetwin my machines

[exotic frigate]

Thats only on the experimental version

[analog citrus]

from the generator to the driller

[exotic frigate]

Ah ok

So any power generators can only plug into power poles

[white dawn]

(And also, even on the experimental branch, it's locked behind some MAM research)

[white dawn]

Well, you can plug a generator directly into one machine, but then that's the only machine the generator can ever connect to. :)

So in practice: yes, everything should connect to a pole or a wall socket.

[exotic frigate]

But also he should check to make sure its not plugged in anywhere else

[analog citrus]

1 generator for only one machine ?

[exotic frigate]

People have free will

[exotic frigate]

Oh also, generators can only plug into one thing at a time

[analog citrus]

bruh

so if i have 100 machine i have to have 100 generators,

[white dawn]

Plug your generators into a power pole, and connect all the various power poles together

[analog citrus]

hoo

[white dawn]

Then you have one "unified" power grid

[analog citrus]

a power pole